general-blitz-discussion

[covert palm]

Yes mines is one of those maps maus struggles in haha it def isn't the worst one tho. pretty much any map that benefits slow gameplay maus can't really compete in (obvious ones being dead rail and castilla)

[tepid maple]

it was a gamemode, the play dead made you bounce, and you cand he a maus in a 114.

[fleet ingot]

all I am gonna say is don't get ur hopes high....expect nothing from wg....a good eg was the secret tier 8 cert

[frank berry]

8 now !

[solar pier]

not the point. i just wanted to share a maus clip

[bright whale]

camo net or optics for e4

[tepid maple]

so i guess we are still ate up on the fact that the 3% extra armour is trash

[solar pier]

got one more

[solar pier]

depends on the playstyle, more often than not i think you'd use optics

[jaunty night]

Lore accurate home animations? https://youtu.be/vzg0RF67WDE?si=u35VeRbgMla1PHua

[solar pier]

it is not

[sterile finch]

I mean maus could go heavy side hill on Castilla purely to spot. It would actually work out if you had competent meds to contest church. There’s so many games when I win church only to realize there’s no crossfires cause the whole team is now behind me lol. I will agree it’s pretty terrible on dead rail.

[covert palm]

I would rather go through the city at that point tbh

[molten cloak]

3% extra armor seems bad until you realize the difference between pen and non pen can come down to a few mm difference

[sterile finch]

Yeah at least there you can get some dmg out. Hill makes you target practice for tds

[solar pier]

micro delays are massively overlooked in this game

[tepid maple]

ok here we go then. 350mm of pen. look at those cheeks!

[sterile finch]

Free 1k for my kran 🤤

[tepid maple]

real

[covert palm]

It seems bad if you look through the lens of a competent player, since no matter what you do in a maus they will pen pretty much every shot with no issue, however everyone isn't competent so Yes that extra armour does make an actual impact

[solar pier]

let's be honest, there'd be a wall there

[sterile finch]

Most good players will avoid the maus though, mostly due to how poor its carry potential is.

[molten cloak]

I think it’s like tight rope walking trying to satisfy wotb players. Just play the elc bis 24/7 and you will never be disappointed

[solar pier]

seriously, watch the video i linked

[tepid maple]

patton. 339mm of heat pen.

[solar pier]

are we not discussing ideal scenarios here?

[sterile finch]

But then they don’t actually shoot at u. Well they will but with HE. You still can’t fire back. Most “smart” players (who are over 50%…) will just preaim and wait for you to turn once reloaded

[left violet]

340mm and it still gets penned easily

[solar pier]

exactly, that's the point

you're stalling

you're delaying

you're hitting the enemy dpm

[upbeat quartz]

strife isnt a defender

[solar pier]

THAT is the job of a maus

[tepid maple]

the sheer amount of bad players in this game is insane. if we be talking about ideal scenarios, a smart person would attempt to circle said maus, or rather just ignore it and clear the more dangerous tanks, the maus isnt one of those

[solar pier]

and you're forgetting this is a team based game

not a 1 v 1

[sterile finch]

They’ll just farm another target or yolo though. That’s how NA feels at least, bunch of yolo clippers that blow up after bouncing half their shells

[solar pier]

why do you think the maus gets used in comp?
for exactly this reason

[molten cloak]

Anyways WT Maus suffers from a similar issue. If someone shoots you in the cheeks it’s game over. Always goes through

[solar pier]

why do you think reactive armor is so useful?

it hits the enemy DPM

[upbeat quartz]

with 3.1k hp and ppl having to use prammo is alr lowering their dpm and distracting them, although i do feel vk 72 is better in some situations due to also having a big gun, but if the opp use a jg pz e100 against ur maus then u are pretty much cooked

[covert palm]

That goes both ways with people not dealing with a maus correctly tho haha

[lunar moss]

My cat is more beautiful than war gaming cat👀

[sterile finch]

You literally use it to take hits for other tanks, that works in comp cause the team is coordinated. Doesn’t work in pubs

[spiral escarp]

Y a-t'il des français dans la place

[viral moth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-box-boxing-angry-fast-cat-eating-a-box-gif-10756722895901289016

[covert palm]

You're calling it useless and trash but not even angling correctly in the first place? Uhh haha😅

[bright whale]

Bruh I got an amazon scam call in the middle of a game

[sterile finch]

The average weekender won’t be able to take advantage of the sacrifice you made tbh

[upbeat quartz]

try jg pz e100 heat

[covert palm]

No point

[upbeat quartz]

me when i see a maus: selects jg pz e100 or ho ri

[solar pier]

while it won't work every time, you gotta work with what you've got

and just being able to enable your teammates can go a long way

[upbeat quartz]

i feel like amx m4 is a better tank, more frontal armor, gun dep, reactive and speed

[sterile finch]

I mean id prolly hit at least 2/3 shots on the little cutout but your average 40%er would give up

[covert palm]

I didn't realise you could select your tank after already joining a battle haha useful thing to be able to do

[solar pier]

currently, perhaps. there's still usage cases for the maus though

[upbeat quartz]

i mean in comps lol, if the opp keep using maus

[solar pier]

it depends on the tactic and positioning you need

[upbeat quartz]

maus is good for maps like middleburg town and desert sand, but for hill maps i feel amx m4 performs better

[covert palm]

I don't care much about comp but I thought maus is pretty much gone currently due to mle being such a sponge as well

[solar pier]

i can agree on that

mle has such a terrible gun though, hate using it

[upbeat quartz]

what about vk 72 compared to maus? vk does has lesser hp but does hit painfully

[remote silo]

Mle is meant to focus fire and use mobility and make pushes with reactive
Maus is literally just a block of hp used to distract because the gun doesn’t have much utility and it cant push

[solar pier]

harder to use as its front is penned by high pen tanks and the tank can't really sidescrape. it can definitely work but you gotta play it differently. it's not the same playstyle as the maus

[upbeat quartz]

within 100m range i can hit my shots quite accurately, but beyond that well...its a gatcha

[solar pier]

i much prefer the maus gun over the mle

[sterile finch]

That’s 100% viable when you got people you know you can trust. When I’m tooning, we trade hp accordingly to make the appropriate pushes. We sacrifice hp, but get something in return. I’ve sacrificed 1600 hp to keep my poor t100 alive from a 50b but it works out at the end… cause he’s a good player and the benefit of keeping gun him alive for late game outweighs it. Your typical james_davis_11 with 40% wr in his no camo e100 is NOT worth it

[upbeat quartz]

i wish they buff maus's cheeks to at least 280-300mm, cuz rn vk 90 seems to sidescrape better due to more cheek armor and faster transverse

[solar pier]

you gotta work with what you've got

i get not every teammate is a god, but you'd be surprised how useful they could be

[sterile finch]

And I’ll work it out by choosing a kran or e6 instead. 😮‍💨

[covert palm]

I am aware why the maus was used but I just thought it wasn't really a thing anymore since the current meta doesn't suit it

[solar pier]

they're still your teammates afterall, use them

[viral moth]

why
like u serious

[upbeat quartz]

when i land in a tier 8 match on desert sand with mauschen, well im in for a good time

[remote silo]

They both have their uses

[valid scarab]

270 is enough imo

[upbeat quartz]

its a fast assault tank, though maus can do push but much slower

[signal palm]

I used to enjoy maus (with the 3% extra armor). It can holds a flank quite well if you have something to hide a little. It can be useful too for close combat against heavies. It is slower than most heavies, but it really allows you to come full hp in the battle where enemies already took shots. The most important thing is to work with your team, not blocking your teammates shots while protecting them to get shot.

[upbeat quartz]

i just build full hp to take a bit more shots, 3.1k hp is alot

[valid scarab]

Also on the note of vk90 pls nerf that thing’s lower plate

[remote silo]

Maus isn’t for pushing
On god no one ever has a maus push
We use it to tank shots and block so we can take essentially and hard to hold caps
Like b on dynasty’s pearl

[signal palm]

I choose armor cause I wiggle a lot when reloading :')

[upbeat quartz]

vk 90 kinda boring lol, cuz it does its job too well, maus is more fun cuz u need to wiggle around

[solar pier]

as you should

[stuck root]

I don’t think you are supposed to shoot your teammates

[solar pier]

you're sniping in a shotgun tank...

[upbeat quartz]

well i feel like ppl with more then 370 heat will just butter through, so i rather be able to take one more hit, but thats really based on preferences

[covert palm]

Vk90 is still overrated imo, I feel like people rate it too highly

[viral moth]

yes and i would have hit all 3

[solar pier]

[upbeat quartz]

its very good though, better armor profile then maus, with fast transverse and good turret dispersion due to the combat stabilizer

[sterile finch]

It’s perfect for your average Joe who is allergic to angling and pramo. Like doesn’t it have almost 300 mm standard Cali pen? That’s basically td levels of pen

[solar pier]

@viral moth btw i'll do that uprising session in about half an hour

[viral moth]

yey

[queen blade]

Is there any player support here that i could talk to? Updating credentials is annoying LOL, keeps saying SERVER UNAVAILABLE

[upbeat quartz]

vk 90 standard pen: vk 90 prammo: 💀

[storm mist]

Blue house

[covert palm]

Yes it is very good, I just see people calling it one of the best t10s when I would rather be in others if I really had to choose for randoms tbh

[sterile finch]

336 apcr is… useable

[left violet]

So ugly

[upbeat quartz]

i find it too little lol, i rather have 336 ap pen

[signal palm]

Yeah, it depends on what you want your maus to do. From my experience, 2.85k hp is way enough to do something, and those 3% extra armor are useful on most maps thanks to rocks or whatever to hide your lower plate.
Yes you will take shots, but your 2.8k hp allow you to withstand quite reliably while your team is attacking and not taking shots

[covert palm]

It's one of the best tanks at holding a position/flank in the game, but it really isn't that versatile haha

[sterile finch]

Ye, 347 on vz isn’t even ideal. Can’t imagine with 10 less

[viral moth]

gona try this walki talki tank

[covert palm]

Yes one of the easiest tier 10s to use that you'll find 😄

[upbeat quartz]

personally I mainly use maus on comps (like 3v3 and 5v5) 3.1k hp means i can act go out and take a shot from a 183 and still have enough to tank a push

[remote silo]

Quick tournaments are not comp

[upbeat quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/wotb-e100-gif-11299054191763982091

[signal palm]

It's not versatile indeed 😂
@upbeat quartz understable

[sterile finch]

It follows the op against 50%ers and below, absolute paper against “good” players trend. The cheeks can’t be angled so its ez pen for most people who can aim

[upbeat quartz]

......................

[toxic stirrup]

What does ts mean😭

[upbeat quartz]

i kinda like the amx m4 more, 2750 hp, near impossible to pen turret, hatch can be hidden with gun dep, 20 km/hr reverse, dpm on par with maus etc, but the gun, meh gun

[bright whale]

I bounce a sheridans gun twice with ap, how

[regal swan]

Wargaming: dont gamble ok?

[sterile finch]

Ye the m4 is pretty neat. Too bad the NA players I face never use gun depression lol. I just farm the hatches like there’s no tomorrow

[remote silo]

https://tenor.com/view/casino77-slot-machine-jackpot-gif-17960442

[covert palm]

I never take serious tanks in quick tournaments if I play them I find it too boring.

Last time I was using full HE e100 for a lot of it, worked quite well😄

[upbeat quartz]

i missed the time when m4 54 has 480 alpha and tungsten, sacrificing those for 20mm more hull armor doesnt feel worth it lol

[sterile finch]

I’m do really well in the m4 49. Perhaps I should beg a certain someone to gift me the mle

[upbeat quartz]

m4 49 sure doesnt feel the same as m4 54 lol

[sterile finch]

Nah it plays similarly, you just have a tumor

[upbeat quartz]

but worse turret i fear (tier 9 prammo can cut through)

[sterile finch]

Let’s ignore how irrelevant the hull has become, it’s still basically impenetrable when using full gun depression

[upbeat quartz]

i think the main reason why its not popular is cuz why play it when the tiger 2 has much better armor

[sterile finch]

It’s a tricky shot, mantlet covers most of the turret front. But that’s a good thing, only proves how the mle would be an upgrade

[upbeat quartz]

i really want wg to add m4 mle 51 at tier 9 (basically m4 54 turret with tier 9 foch's gun and weaker hull in tier 9)

[cold grotto]

Maybe tier 11 (if it existed) would do same to an m4 54

[upbeat quartz]

maus: 💀

[sterile finch]

Ye but even then… does it really matter if you’ll get penned with pramo anyways? For the m4 49 I play around the versatile gun with amazing pen and depression angles for the most part. It’s like a um… budget e6 without the gun handling lmao

[upbeat quartz]

more like a french 54e1

[cold grotto]

Budget e6 lmao 🤣
I have never heard this before

[feral kettle]

Bruuuh

[upbeat quartz]

i always tot is-8 is the budget obj 260

[sterile finch]

Well the play styles are indeed similar, well kinda.. it’s your generic hull down gameplay but you bait instead of expecting bounces

[glossy copper]

Had a 742 player get upset for having to "carry" while me and a e75 used cap to bait the enemy team into pushing us and dieing in uprising( it worked and we won)💀bro was upset he got to farm damage

[stuck root]

This and the double AP

[cold grotto]

Ik what ya mean, just smt new to hear is all

[cold grotto]

I'd say 260 is budget is4 ;3

[sterile finch]

~~ Is4 is a budget 113 ~~

[pulsar osprey]

Thanks a lot for sharing, I didn't know this, valuable info 🙏

Do cooldown boosters, High End Consumables and Consumable Delivery System work on the default abilities of tanks in Uprising mode?

Or do they work only on consumables?

[stuck root]

should i free xp the e100??

[sterile finch]

No, cause you’d be missing out on like 100 free aces

[vivid kayak]

I am fairly certain they do affect special gamemode abilities

[stuck root]

I haven’t grinded a line since 2017 I think I’ve already missed more then 100

[sterile finch]

😭

[pulsar osprey]

If you're a F2P player like me, use Free XP only for researching tank modules. Use it to get rid of trash stock modules that are a pain to play with.

Use them to research a new tank ONLY when you get a limited research discount certificate!

[remote silo]

Yes they do affect the abilities in game modes

[stuck root]

no im Whale

[pulsar osprey]

Do you know this for sure?

Like is it stated somewhere officially by Wargaming?

[vivid kayak]

You can always test it yourself

[final gate]

this good?

[ocean gazelle]

Decent

[stuck root]

They do work I run cooldown boosters on tanks that use rewind or spin

[final gate]

hm ok

[hallow pike]

Nuh uh

[tulip kraken]

is it worth to exchange combat xp to get ShPTK? or is it worth more in Reforged?

[fluid sundial]

Kind of, yeah. Good mobility, turret armor and gun, hull is a bit weak and so is the prammo. All in all nothing bad imo

[pulsar osprey]

Bruh it's hard to do testing in the heat of the battle

Info like this should be stated clearly in the Wiki so that players know :(

[sterile finch]

You can literally tell at the start of the battle. The invisibility effect lasts longer for the players who choose the equipment that gives 33% longer duration

[final gate]

ah like the 260

[sterile finch]

It’s worse than a 260 ngl

[fluid sundial]

The Shptk is decent but imo only a 6/10. Gun is great, but the platform is a bit slow and cumbersome. It's a good way to get a new-ish tank for "free"

[vivid kayak]

You don't need to be in a firefight to test how long an active ability lasts

[final gate]

dam

[fleet ingot]

10k dmg in tier 8 is not enough bcoz all they wanna do is camp in their shark and then downvote others
lost the 300 reagent

[tulip kraken]

ok my question is whether to exchange it for tank or for reforged?

[pulsar osprey]

Alright I get it. My storage is infested with hundreds of cooldown boosters which I never used. Looks like the perfect opportunity is finally here lol

[vivid kayak]

Ikr I have done so many 10-11k battles in tier 8 but somehow you still get overwhelmed by the enemies in the end.

[remote silo]

It’s not officially stated to my knowledge but I think 4k+ uprising battles (not including Gravitising) would give me enough insight and experience to understand that they do affect abilities

[pulsar osprey]

Alright thanks for all the info guys!

[fluid sundial]

The question is if you really need those boosters. As far as I know, they should be converted into something that gives XP for "sets" after the reforged update (Seeing how you have many more of those boosters, you could go for the tank now.)

[fleet ingot]

yes, becoz gold is becmong useless with wg's ongain inflation( ppl have spent close to 200k gold to get the new tier 9 tank)....also even if you don't like the shrek u can sell it for 3750...( I wasted over 20k of those reagents to get aroudn 1500 gold only, so surely a better investment than gambling)

[solar pier]

yes they do

[tulip kraken]

i've 7.1k combat xp booster now. need 5k for the tank.

[fleet ingot]

I never care abbout fun modes...but this reagent thingy is making me try hard in fun mode too....uk yesterday I played 14 games won all of them and today, till now have played 2, and already lost 1

[tulip kraken]

does it cost gold to upgrade something in reforged and does combat xp help to reduce the expenditure of gold?

[silent haven]

3k average damge in WT auf pz.IV and my win rate is 10 percent... fix your game wargaming

[fleet ingot]

yess better than waffen and 116😂
congrats

[vivid kayak]

Yeah I don't care for it usually either. But it would be nice to win with the current thing going on

[valid scarab]

Do you actually want sbmm
Because you wont be able to do 3k (probably)

[remote silo]

It’s pretty good
Nothing immaculate but still a pretty decent pick up

[remote silo]

Anything is better than 116 💀

[vivid kayak]

If you're seriously avg 3k and only have 10% winrate then you probably have very few battles on it. It'll even out soon enough

[sterile finch]

Also you’re in a camping Td. Your performance is tied to your team

[fleet ingot]

we know that collectors won't earn any credits in reforged( all tanks earn credits like T22 medium/M60🥲 , u will have to spent gold to enrich ur tanks), provisions are removed but still cost of the consumable is 30% more on an avg compared to the cost ryt now....
u dont get any compensation for duplicates( the mods here say they will change it, but wg has announced nothing about it)

wg has been increasing inflation every day, Smasher has gone from 10k( auction 2023) to 12.5k gold( auction 2024), they even sold the avg tier 7 light bringer for 20k gold...vrt was removed, wg has made it almost impossible to get premium as a f2p...I just don't like where all this is goin

[pulsar osprey]

Is there any statistics about the demographics of the World of Tanks player base?

I'm guessing that most of the people who play Blitz or WoT PC are either Gen Zs or Millennials (Maybe even older) since PC was released in 2009 and Blitz in 2014, which was more than a decade ago

Perhaps that's why the Fortnite-themed Reforged update was disliked so much by their mature player base :]

[vivid kayak]

No wg doesn't really release statistics

[fleet ingot]

😂

[vivid kayak]

But yes, the majority of the playerbase is most likely gen z or the younger millennials

[pulsar osprey]

Dang that's sucks, I'm very curious to know lol

[tulip kraken]

nice write up. i got the answer 🙂

[vivid kayak]

I remember when wg used to release performance (avg dmg and winrate) of tier 8-10 tanks. Not that it was very relevant to their balancing methodology but it was nice to see something

[sterile finch]

I mean we can see tank performance, but not demographic https://blitzanalysiz.com/

[pulsar osprey]

I have seen so many gamer YouTubers who are either Gen Zs or millennials but I've rarely seen anyone older that that

Bushka On Blitz is the first boomer gamer YouTuber I ever saw on YouTube and that's when I guessed lol (No offence to him and I don't know his real age. But he does look pretty old)

[sterile finch]

There’s a fair bit of older players, lots of veterans for example. They don’t tend to play too well though…

[pulsar osprey]

How do you know that lol

[sterile finch]

I used to be in a clan family for retired us tankers

[shrewd gale]

my honest reaction

[pulsar osprey]

Wait you mean real life tankers from the military?!

Or WoT Blitz veteran players?

[fathom urchin]

💀

[sterile finch]

Irl tankers. A lot of them play this game on the side yk? They be blasting real and fictional targets lol

[viral moth]

finally yey

[pulsar osprey]

Wowww okay lol

But you should've told them about War Thunder or some realistic game like that haha

[still pivot]

and what would you class as old then 🤔 lol

[sterile finch]

I don’t think most of em have a pc when on deployment ngl. Either way, that’s not for me to worry about. They can play whatever they want

[pulsar osprey]

I don't know, maybe people who experienced the beginning of the Internet!

Like when they were kids a "video game" meant 1 rectangle and a dot lol

[still pivot]

oh bugger i was around for the invention of computers lol , modern day ones anyway haha

[jaunty night]

@reef stone i am very very thankful for the gift u provided me i managed to get this tank

[pulsar osprey]

Yeah that's a fair classification too lol

[still pivot]

lol - i be guilty then haha

[reef stone]

ohh nice! That is a very lovely tank. Takes a bit of getting used to, but when it works it's pure magic

[jaunty night]

yeah i am keeping this tank tbh it earns a lot in uprising

[stuck root]

first e100 game in uprising

[woeful kayak]

Lol why 2 cannons.

[pulsar osprey]

Wait whaaat you're Gen X!!!

When did you first start playing Blitz, like which year?

Do you play WoT PC and War Thunder too? 😀

[woeful kayak]

I'm 35 any else older on the server?

[sick coral]

Oh ok

[vivid kayak]

You know it's possible that people that drive tanks irl may not be interested in driving around in a more mili-sim game and prefer arcady stuff as an escape

[still pivot]

blitz 2023 wot pc 14 yrs ago lol , yeah me way older than 35 lol

[sick coral]

I’m 52

[still pivot]

55 here i'm a '69 kid lol

[sick coral]

I was joking but damn

[still pivot]

i aint lol 😛

never let the inner kid leave you no matter what age you are 😉

[pulsar osprey]

Boy was I right lmao

No wonder the Fortnite-themed Reforged was disliked so much by the player base

Because most of them belong to a mature age group and have been playing this game for well over a decade...People hate to see their favourite game getting replaced (Including me too) 😂

[twin field]

https://tenor.com/view/wot-world-of-tanks-physics-gif-13995941

[still pivot]

i like most of it yeah the wokeness is a bit ott for me personally but the general game itself will be playing the same on battlefield all that matters

[twin field]

...

[stuck root]

why not

[twin field]

I don't good speak english

[left violet]

Got this abomination today on lesta

[twin field]

https://tenor.com/view/wot-blitz-gif-24748809

[vivid kayak]

113 has a version 2!?

[pulsar osprey]

Many people including myself don't like the way it looks, so cartoonish

At this point, the best update they could give us is no update at all 😭

Maybe just fix the matchmaking, merge all the servers, add more game modes and tanks and that's it!

No one asked for humans to be added in a game which is all about war machines and history :/

[still pivot]

see whats changed in 2nd test i guess 🤷🏼‍♂️

[vivid kayak]

They are changing things. Commanders won't be visible in garage anymore. One of them got cut from the game. Others will probably be redesigned.

[still pivot]

im ok it runs on ultra at 120fps on this pc so any changes will be interesting hehe

[twin field]

[pulsar osprey]

Oh well hopefully they listen for once

A 1:2 like:dislike ratio is no joke haha

[maiden forge]

I still cry sometimes when I know I will never be able to play lesta again due to 400 ping

[twin field]

How join to Ultra test?

[bright whale]

for what, blitz or reforged

[still pivot]

both lol

[thorn nebula]

Guys i bought defender cert offer and got Churchill W💀 atleast i got 3k gold from one of the containers

[bright whale]

if only my parents hadn't spend 1k dollars on a pc with an rx 550 and a 10700f i could have a 4060 or smthn

[vivid kayak]

The biggest problem with wg is that their marketing team seems out right incompetent. The amount of vitriol that they got for commanders would have been less if they had put someone other than the first 2 default commanders like idk the guy that was wearing military fatigues

[woeful kayak]

Nice

[still pivot]

think when i bought this pc cost me about that

[maiden forge]

Churchill W exists??
Btw is it auto loader?

[thorn nebula]

Single shot, but EV engine atleast
Basically good armor

[bright whale]

to be fair it was right in the middle of the gpu shortage soooo

[maiden forge]

Pain

[thorn nebula]

The low tier defenders have no autoloaders

[still pivot]

rtx 3070 in this pc

[bright whale]

3070 will always beat a 4060

[sterile finch]

Lmao, poor you. Got scammed ngl

[bright whale]

fr, its worth like 300 dollars today

[vivid kayak]

Hold on, why did an rx550 PC cost over 1k

[maiden forge]

Meanwhile I got a laptop for my university work
And I play wotb in medium graphics
☠️

[woeful kayak]

I'm so cheap I blitz on my phone as my computer is 200 ultra budget.

[bright whale]

gpu shortage - 2021

[sterile finch]

300? That gpu might as well be ewaste 💀

[bright whale]

to be fair I upgraded to a 3050 (IK it sucks for the price) but proprietary mobo connectors and a 300w psu with no pcie connectors

[sterile finch]

You from the us? If so it wasn’t anywhere as bad

I got my 2021 gaming laptop for 1150 usd lol

[sharp canopy]

I tought this server had gotten back to 200k people than realized I was on Wot discord

[vivid kayak]

I kinda regret buying a 3070ti these days tbh. If I could spare a few hundred more, I could have gone with a 3080. It's a nice GPU but damn the vram is so insufficient at times

[sterile finch]

Does the 3070 ti also only have 8?

[vivid kayak]

Yeah

[viral moth]

second battle in it

[still pivot]

this is my gaming rig on a 55" uhd tv lol

[sterile finch]

Jeez, well my laptop has 12 so um yeah

[bright whale]

wanna know something even worse?

[maiden vessel]

should i get the rhm?

[still pivot]

why not its an evil thing lol

[sterile finch]

What? You only got 4? If it’s for blitz you’ll be fine

[vivid kayak]

At 1080p I can crank something like indiana Jones to max graphics and get like 40-50 fps without dlss. But my textures can't go above medium because there simply isn't enough vram

[maiden forge]

Get Leo 1
Personally I like Leo 1
It looks good
Plays good
Wait a min . .you sold it?
Nvm get rhm 🙃

[bright whale]

not that, my parents then got me a 4k 60hz monitor 32in..... idk how the hell I ended up with this setup

[reef forge]

I dont like the tank that much ur better off getting t-100

[woeful kayak]

How much VRAM? I've got a Ti1660 with 6gb

[still pivot]

ahh 60hz ... gutted

[sterile finch]

Huh

[vivid kayak]

3070ti has 8. It's a pretty good GPU of it werent limited by vram like tgat

[bright whale]

thats what im sayin

i wanna trade-in my monitor for a 1440p 165hz 32 inch one that costs like 250

[vivid kayak]

Rx550 isn't really suited for 1440p either.

[sterile finch]

Ye that'd be smart. I really want an oled monitor tbh

[woeful kayak]

Lol a Virus

[bright whale]

idk what to pair with a 3070.. like a r5 7600?

[humble nacelle]

Hi who can help me ? I need xp and credits

[bright whale]

cuz i wanna be on AM5 knowing it will be supported til 2027 or smthn like that

[sterile finch]

Most if not all my other devices are oled. I just can't go back to lcd.

[vivid kayak]

But do you have a mb that supports AM5? Otherwise you will have to invest in that too

[still pivot]

R7 5700x im using goes with 3070 pretty good

[vivid kayak]

Yeah I have the same CPU. But it is am4

[still pivot]

true

[shrewd gale]

hey avoid using medical terms and bypassing the chat filter

[bright whale]

hol on lemme go on pcpartpicker and see what I can do

[round ravine]

This game is completely unbelievable how the hell do I go 27% win rate today with these autistic teammates

[sterile finch]

I'd just bite the bullet for a 7800x3d. Depends on what kind of games you play. I find myself cpu bound most of the time

[winter lynx]

What if I m a 40%er, I died 2 minutes into the match, and I’m now trash talking a 61%er. He reported me, am I’m worried I gonna get banned.

[vivid kayak]

Yeah you'd be set for years to come with 7800x3d

[sterile finch]

That's um... Entirely on you lol

[bright whale]

im not buying a cpu that is 100 dollars more than a 3070

[glacial eagle]

5090 and 9800X3D for the win

[winter lynx]

I think I’m toast.

[sterile finch]

Is it still that expensive? Thought it dropped to 400 usd or something

[bright whale]

is the price diff between the 7600x and non-x worth it (9800x3d is 450 rn)

[sterile finch]

No clue, didn't follow up on their lower end processors

[vivid kayak]

5090 fiasco is crazy. All I have seen is that it is missing stuff like rops that makes it lose like 10% performance making it worse than 4090

[winter lynx]

Does WG tend to go easier on p2w trash talkers after report or are all players treated equally. I’m just curious.

I know pixonic goes easy on their p2w whales. What about WG.

[sterile finch]

Once again entirely boils down to the types of games you play. Competitive shooters and so on greatly benefit from a more powerful cpu.

That's like part of why I prefer playing on my iPad sometimes these days. 5900hx on my laptop doesn't quite cut it anymore.

[brazen aspen]

lol

[round ravine]

Somebody shoot me or create a bug that deletes wotb from the world

[glacial eagle]

Graphically intense but poorly optimised games are only getting more common

[winter lynx]

I can feel that the App Store version of wotb, is much smoother and has much more vibrant graphics compared to steam version. especially if u have a Mac.

[brazen aspen]

rtx3060ti, 64gb ram, ryzen 5 and barely get 60fps on modern ue5 games

[still pivot]

ouch 3070, 32gb ramryzen 7- 120fps on all games 🤷🏼‍♂️

[brazen aspen]

devs just slap in dlss and dont bother with optimization

[winter lynx]

I remember toasting my I5 8 gb ram school computer when I downloaded cyberpunk on it. Or was it 16gb ram i forgot.

[vivid kayak]

I mean you probably don't play newer games. I can't even hit 60 in avowed with dlss. I do have ray tracing on tho

[glacial eagle]

UE5 games are often poorly optimised because they don’t know how to optimise their games properly with the tools they are given

[brazen aspen]

talking about ue5 here

[still pivot]

yes so am i , i get 120fps in reforged ..

hovers around 117 usually

[sterile finch]

Did you tinker with the settings? Cause reforged has a very aggressive render scale. It recommended 70% for me lol.

[still pivot]

no ultra on most think only thing i turned down was the grass in sniper

[sterile finch]

Still feels baffling that the worlds most powerful mobile device would drop to the mid 60s in battle with the settings properly maxed out

[fathom urchin]

Bro in the middle of opening a crate I got a popup 😭

WG what u doin

[twin field]

...

[sterile finch]

Potato ah graphics. Whats the point of UE graphic upgrades If 80% of us can't even run it properly lmao

[twin field]

[maiden vessel]

ill get it back

[viral moth]

got ur g-mail now

[twin field]

@viral moth @viral moth

[viral moth]

wha?

[twin field]

[still pivot]

just looked in reforged - i never turned any down they all on high and ultra 🤷🏼‍♂️

[frozen pecan]

Bro why won't the store appear for me? I can't access it

[still pivot]

ah yeah just the grass in sniper mode

[viral moth]

wha?

[bright whale]

@sterile finch https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t2kTFZ pretend there is an rtx 3070 there (imma get one used for 300)

[still pivot]

dont show your email lol

[maiden vessel]

try restarting the game

[frozen pecan]

I did many times, it's been like that for weeks

[maiden vessel]

try reinstalling

[viral moth]

lol

[sterile finch]

That was painful to watch ngl. I guess this is the perspective of your average 183 player lol

[maiden vessel]

its nice to come back to blitz once in a while
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1068171572944314409/1343665150124752947/World_of_Tanks_Blitz_2025.02.25_-_03.24.56.02.mp4

[stuck glacier]

@twin field The message with your email was deleted. Be careful with that in the future.

[viral moth]

fr

[bright whale]

did you look at the pcpartpicker list I sent you

[icy storm]

What is that god awful music

[still pivot]

see 120fps in reforged lol

[limber pollen]

Time: 1:36 pm Central

[viral moth]

pwetty

[still pivot]

yeah had to flex to a bunch of bots eh hahaha ( im in the AEP1 )

[maiden vessel]

moonlight by kali uchis, its the song for the 20$ meme

[frozen pecan]

Now I can't log in until I update my creditentials

[crude thunder]

Then update those credentials

[viral moth]

gib me 🙏

[sterile finch]

Was trying out the Destiny lol. I’ll check it

[bright whale]

I love proprietary HP motherboards that use 7-pin connectors

[still pivot]

hehe heck naw dat im keepin lol

[crude thunder]

Frosty's lucky. I'm already $300 down on the AE Phase 1.

[frozen pecan]

I genuinely can't, wargaming is bullcrapping with me

[still pivot]

i got seriously lucky 3rd crate on 1st BP i bought lol

[frozen pecan]

And I got no message from wargaming yet

[maiden vessel]

exactly, go fix it

[frozen pecan]

Did you not read what I just said?

[maiden vessel]

then do what you can, contact customer support etc

[tall shell]

takes a while for the email to arrive sometimes

check your spam too

[maiden vessel]

in his case, he's still waiting for sms

[tall shell]

lags all the same

if you requested a bunch they'll prob come in all at once

just keep tryig

[frozen pecan]

Wish I was waiting for an email it would've been way simpler

[gilded bramble]

Ou that tanks its cool

[maiden vessel]

do read the rates

[still pivot]

the " not going to win chance " ones lol

[gilded bramble]

Yes, but I like them because they either have 3x shooting or 4

Does anyone have an annihilator?

[vital plume]

Borsig with double shot is disgusting

[crude thunder]

Yes. I've gotten 3 already. Watchu wanna know

[crude thunder]

Double Shot is the worst T3 ability in Uprising.

[vital plume]

Double shot aint a perk thats a curse

[crude thunder]

Here, you can do what the Helsing does but significantly worse.

[vital plume]

Unless you have reticle calibration and battle trance to nullify its side effects

4005 pre nerf....

[crude thunder]

The only tanks I've seen who can effectively utilize Double Shot is the Gravedigger and the AT-7.

[gilded bramble]

Woow that is verry big deal

[crude thunder]

Gravedigger is straight up broken with Double.
Play Dead removes all recoil from shooting including after-shot bloom, so you PD, aim in, and then nuke your enemies for 1,000 damage.

[warm igloo]

Allat but groundtank will always be scarier

[gilded bramble]

Okay l have it 🤨

[crude thunder]

Activate windows

[storm mist]

Free gold it is

[mild talon]

What tank is it

[warm igloo]

Its it even easy to get

[stuck root]

bro they want me to pay $200 for a key or whatever and im not doing it

[crude thunder]

What a ripoff, holy crap

[gilded bramble]

You are right there because that VK 100.1 is op German... then mostly Germany and USSR

[stuck root]

ill show after this uprising game

[vital plume]

I assume it is the Super hellcat... But i also doubt it will be

They already gave the tank out once. And now in the resources burning event we could get another

[crude thunder]

Man.

[shrewd gale]

there's also a jagpanzer e 100

[bright whale]

I sure love when 2 sheridans an stb and leo are constantly yoloing me

[crude thunder]

They both look crunchy.

[shrewd gale]

much better in game
they shine

[gilded bramble]

What is tgat

[deft bison]

I did with Emil 1 around or 11 000 dmg and 6 or 7 kills is that normal?

[crude thunder]

Well I dont speak in communes, so I must stay with my War gaming overlords.

[gilded bramble]

@deft bison hrv?

[sterile finch]

Perhaps I treated you too harshly…

[crude thunder]

See, I told you. Its a good vehicle when maxed.

[shrewd gale]

(less than 1% of players are gonna max it)

[sterile finch]

That’s cause I’m facing tier 8 😭

[crude thunder]

Sounds like 99% of players are broke

[icy storm]

What’s with the fruity decorations

[deft bison]

Bosna brt

[sterile finch]

Can’t wait to see all red against t10

[shrewd gale]

or just stupid because they complete the event stages instead of upgrading the tank via research

[stuck root]

good for tier 8

[deft bison]

[gilded bramble]

@deft bison add to me

[crude thunder]

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[shrewd gale]

you can literally activate it via cmds

[crude thunder]

Windows fell off, bro.
Just get a Linux

[deft sable]

Real

[shrewd gale]

the newer windows yes, im still staying strong with win 7

[stuck root]

i have oogaa boogaa brain so idk what that is

[deft sable]

Good luck trying to play practically any game without hours of research

[icy storm]

BZ line worth grinding?

[shrewd gale]

it's mid
hard to use

[vivid kayak]

Windows has always had a paid license atleast ever since I got into PCs. I am pretty young so idk about way back when XP was new stuff.

[icy storm]

Challenge accepted

[still pivot]

lol

[crude thunder]

BZ-75?

[maiden vessel]

the f1 radio sound is giving me nightmares

[vital plume]

The tier 9 has the most pathetic hesh gun I've seen. And the 130mm ain't Saving it either

[icy storm]

Yes

[maiden vessel]

pretty fun tanks ngl

[crude thunder]

I skipped that entire line with Free XP

[vital plume]

I started to use it as my notification sound since all the default ones in this phone sound bad

[maiden vessel]

can u send the audio file in my dms pls, i cant find a proper one

[bright whale]

are windows 11 key websites trustworthy, the ones that cost like $20

[vital plume]

Aight hold up one minute

[icy storm]

That’s the idea lol

[maiden vessel]

then yes, bz 75 is extremely funny

[still pivot]

oof lol

[vivid kayak]

They are considered as grey keys in other words. Piracy. And there are no guarantees when it comes to high seas. There are a few kinda trust worthy sites but I don't remember which

[crude thunder]

Looks so good tho

[shy trail]

huh?

[maiden vessel]

that looks insane. that a mod?

[crude thunder]

Thats the BZ-75 Combat Snake. Its a real camo.

[vital plume]

You received it?

[crude thunder]

Wargaming themselves cooked that up for us all.
Absolutely phenominal. Its the entire reason I went up the line

[fluid sundial]

Camo from the lunar-event

[still pivot]

i remember getting a windows key for win10 online one bought it was less that £10 from what i remember legit key too

[maiden vessel]

srsly???

[crude thunder]

Yea, really. Thats a real camo

[vivid kayak]

Yeah same. I dropped like 12-13 dollars for mine a few years ago

[still pivot]

yeah thats it

[vital plume]

For real.

However it was for money tho

[maiden vessel]

i was in vacation at a hotel in switzerland on cny

[crude thunder]

It was COMPLETELY worth it.

[fluid sundial]

Yes. Changes the name into BZ75 "Combat". It's pretty rare since it cost about 17.5k Gold in Bundles. You had to buy bundles or Gold to get the currency to get it.

[still pivot]

bought new pc when that one died and it came wit win 11 home installed so meh carry on with this then haha

[maiden vessel]

DAMN hella expensive

[vital plume]

A small price to pay for that devious DRIP

[maiden vessel]

nah, im getting the mod version of it

[crude thunder]

Gah, such an amazing camo

[fluid sundial]

But also looks absolutely amazing and I had the Gold >_< Got the 122tm camo and gold compensation from tanks in the bundle, so it was about 10k for me

[maiden vessel]

damn, i'd only pay like 8k gold or somthin for that but still looks amazing

[crude thunder]

Its always the chinese tanks that Weegee cooks the hardest on.

[fluid sundial]

Very understandable >_<

[vital plume]

Don't worry those camos will come back for free eventually.

Remember the Octopus X and Retez X for getting aces with the tanks in a small time window?

They eventually were given for free

[fluid sundial]

Tbf, I really love the Rino camo and some others as well, but I agree. Tanks like the Type 62, 122tm, 121 and Bz look great

[crude thunder]

WZ-114 Zhulong
WZ-121 Neon
BZ-75 Combat
I forgot the chinese LT's name.
Type 62 Firebreather.
112 Glacial looks great 24/7, no camo required.

[fluid sundial]

Well "free" The 215b was in a 250k(or more, I don't recall) damage quest and the Tvp-camo is in the crates rn, that should be the second release.

[rugged tapir]

Power of paper

||a 183 and a E100 bounced off me||

[crude thunder]

MAID Jade

[maiden vessel]

i need the retez camo

[vital plume]

What did WG do with the Chinese that they HAVE to cook the drippest camos for them?

[maiden vessel]

nvm i dont, i was thinking of a different one

[fluid sundial]

113 also has some cool camos I'd say, the Bronze warrior is subtle but nice as well and the Nine-colors... well that's a camo that you either hate or love

[crude thunder]

Compensation for poorly made ammoracks

[maiden vessel]

bronze armor used to look like crap but now its decent back then it used to look like mud now its actually red

[tired salmon]

Yo do you guys keep very old crates?

[vital plume]

You mean like event crates that were not deducted from our accs?

Brother i started playing in a time that all event related crates were automatically ducted from our accs. I have none of that vintage crap.

Only event souvenirs are left

[stuck root]

turn it into the lightbuld sound when you get spotted

[tired salmon]

Well sort of, I used to keep very old crates for some reason, my oldest one is a 2019 crate from Chinese new years and I also have a crate for the 6th year anniversary crates, and it got to the point that the name of the crate changed and jus showed the date of when it was released, I find it very interesting and wondering if anyone has those typa collections in the game

[bright whale]

PANKCAKE TURRET

[pseudo plover]

is is-3 defender a good tier VIII tank?

[stuck root]

Decent

[orchid rune]

guys are 121b and concept 1b good tanks

[vapid matrix]

Hate leopard, cant penetrate most armors

[orchid rune]

i have em on my alt and i love concept but idk about 121b and i get overwhelmed sometimes in concept

[stuck root]

squish tank

[sterile finch]

Concept is strong, 121b Is meh

[orchid rune]

king favius

[shrewd gale]

oh my

[leaden kite]

Me when windows activators exist

[stable plover]

welp, wasted my luck on a tank i couldnt care less about 😐

[glacial eagle]

lol

[weak plume]

@left violet he got a tank u will never get

[pulsar osprey]

Do APAC servers reset at this time?

I've been trying to find a Regular battle with my 183 for the past 10 minutes with no success. Only 20 people online?!

[shrewd gale]

real

[hollow cradle]

I’d love if that tank was in blitz

[vivid kayak]

Yeah kinda. It's pretty much the middle of the night for most of Apac. So very few people online. Numbers should be back up a bit in a few hours

[woeful kayak]

😂 WG let's forget about reforged with cats.

[sturdy fable]

Hi

[stuck root]

bro

[left violet]

Eh

[woeful kayak]

Lol you cooked for ever. Nice!!!

[stuck root]

The chosen one

[shrewd gale]

i might've caught a cold

[crude thunder]

Its 41° outside. Its February. Why is it so hot out.

[compact raptor]

Wdym underrated, it's busted

[crude thunder]

...under certain circumstances

[woeful kayak]

I think the world's broken it 50 where I am. I'm in a northern state

[compact raptor]

Untouchable hulldown, but people just yolo and die

You can't even splash the turret since they made it thicker than it has any reason to be

[woeful kayak]

Which tank it is the hardest to get in game and not just throwing money at it?

[crude thunder]

Yea, but lately the gameplan for regs is "recruit rush".

[compact raptor]

Ke-Ni Otsu because you just can't get it even if you wanted to pay

[crude thunder]

T49 A.

[compact raptor]

That's just a removed tank, it's not in the game

[crude thunder]

Stats from people who had the T49 A are still in the game, which means its still there.

[smoky needle]

i hate destiny

[crude thunder]

You hate the unfinished Destiny.

[shrewd gale]

im feeling so terrible
i cannot even maintain my balance standing

[compact raptor]

Doesn't mean it's still there

[smoky needle]

destiny is -1 player on team

[compact raptor]

Nah, incorrect. It's still HP that isn't yours

[crude thunder]

I use Destiny and I MVP with it.

[compact raptor]

Stock destiny can get yoloed by tier 8s though, so it's definitely dead weight.

But it's still someone for the enemy to shoot

[sterile finch]

Unless it's me ehe, and I'm top tier...

[shrewd gale]

destiny is destined to be sold unless maxed

[compact raptor]

It's just enough of a threat you can't just ignore it, but not enough of a threat attacking it is good use of time

[sterile finch]

If I'm bottom tier then ye we screwed against the comp 70% toon in double e6 lmao

Destiny is actually insane at brawling meds though. 2288 hp + reactive keeps you going.

[compact raptor]

Only good at 1v1ing mediums

[sterile finch]

You hit them back every 9 seconds with hesh or 410 ap. Not that bad ngl

[stuck glacier]

Stats are eternal, even those for deleted accounts. The T 49 A was part of the Missile Exercize event and was removed from the game.

There's also stats for a Warduck that was available for a 1 day mini game. I desperately want a Warduck and the chance to play it.

[sterile finch]

Eh... Its fine against heavies too for me at least, really depends on who we're dealing with.

[compact raptor]

Anyone in the better part of the bell curve

[sterile finch]

Unless they are over 60% and are a t10 I'm confident I'd win

[compact raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-id-win-gojo-nah-id-win-gojo-satoru-gojo-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-722934852497975468

[sterile finch]

Not saying there's not better tanks out there. I'll still take the wz 114 over this thing any day. Just that the sheer um... Brain capacity of the average blitz player leaves much to be desired

[compact raptor]

Pretty sure I could dome you in a Conqueror

[sterile finch]

Hm... Not in a facehug tbh. But ye you could hesh me. I could also hesh you though lol

[crisp sleet]

Ducks were fun!

[sterile finch]

But then it would be a boring gun block battle. Pretty uninteresting don't you think?

[devout shore]

https://tenor.com/view/kj-stickman-gif-8774864949386011547

[smoky needle]

but most Destiny players are like this

[sterile finch]

I guess you mean the two zero dmg? Im averaging like 2.7k rn, so its not too terrible.

[compact raptor]

Are you sure about that?

[sterile finch]

I need more games against t10s to make a final judgment though. Already farmed two aces in what... 6 games lol

[compact raptor]

Since the Conqueror can just mince the Destiny's turret too

[sterile finch]

Youre making it seem as if i can't do the same 😭 not to mention i have more effective hp cause reactive. If we're doing the boring hull down trade it won't be too favorable for u ngl

[compact raptor]

Conq has sandbags

[sterile finch]

And i have reactive. Either way I'm going to be shooting at this...

[shy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/animator-vs-animation-stickfigure-animation-vs-minecraft-avm-meme-gif-5790254678539624003

[compact raptor]

Both lolpen the other tank since neither has armour

[devout shore]

https://tenor.com/view/kj-kj-series-kj-awakening-stickman-animation-gif-7575989785352592612

[stable plover]

welp thats done

[sterile finch]

In comparison this ain't actually half bad, considering there's the spaced armor to troll your shells

[compact raptor]

Spaced armour does nothing, also gold is entirely unnecessary

[sterile finch]

Ik gold is unnecessary, Just giving myself the worst case scenario.

[compact raptor]

Worst case scenario is where you get penned by AP actually

[sterile finch]

I tend to shoot ap at the cheeks anyways in pubs.

[compact raptor]

Destiny's armour profile is garbage, having reactive is the only saving grace

[sterile finch]

It's not like you can angle the turret either. Well.. A more appropriate take would be the average destiny player is unaware of the concept of "angling" to begin with lol

And honestly reactive is all it needs. I love reactive, it's up there as one of my favs

[bright whale]

was aiming at the lower plate of a tiger 1 in the caliban... I max rolled his hatch...

[compact raptor]

It can't angle, there isn't a single angle where its armour becomes good

[sterile finch]

You either face hug or go hull down. At that point the armor is… workable

[smoky needle]

this tank is very nice

[compact raptor]

And the DPM still nonexistent

Its pen is also very bad

[sterile finch]

265 ap isn’t terrible

[normal token]

zzz

[compact raptor]

If you overpoke you just die since it can't go backwards, I think it could use some gear oil actually

[autumn flicker]

Lol the fact you have an AE Phase 1 is more impressive

[sterile finch]

It could be worse yk. It’s more than adequate for t8, it just crumbles against t10

[compact raptor]

It's a tier 8 by stats tbh

[leaden kite]

It has a good armor profile lol

[compact raptor]

No it doesn't

Also it's basically a Chi-Se firing gold with twice the alpha but half the reload

Well, not quite twice but it's comparable in firepower

[ashen relic]

Interesting

[leaden kite]

Okay the Destiny is a second line hulldown HESH slinger

[compact raptor]

The DPM is so bad if someone decides you die, there's really nothing you can do about it if your reactive is on cooldown

[compact raptor]

With 0.35 accuracy?

[fleet ingot]

APAC is acutally ded....it's nyt, it's impossible to find games this time
I too want to play ryt now but just can't

[leaden kite]

Are you incapable of using refined gun?

[compact raptor]

Ok so no gun handling

IS-8 gets better gun handling with a 122

[fleet ingot]

the hesh with tungstun exists....I am happy that atleast ppl don't have to spend 200k gold on it like they are for the new BZ

[compact raptor]

Don't you get only one shot out since the reload is so bad?

[sterile finch]

Two actually. One on activation, another in the duration… you can squeeze another with adrenaline

[compact raptor]

All that to be a good tank for 25s?

[fleet ingot]

2 actually, also adrenalin or reactive

[compact raptor]

Adrenaline is technically better than tungsten

[stable plover]

got it an hour or so ago, a pretty pointless tank

[fleet ingot]

yes if you are yoloing( which u should not with 2.2k dpm)

better use reactive and tunstun and outrade your opponent

[sterile finch]

But the thing is this gun can’t work at range, move close and the enemy will yolo you though

[compact raptor]

Who trades with a Destiny, you can yolo it with very few consequences

[fleet ingot]

that's the point, no tank wants to trade with a tank that can roll 550-600 with hesh+ tungtun and set u on fire...

[compact raptor]

So they just won't poke you, you get ignored until the battle is over and then you die because your tank is trash

[fleet ingot]

that's good isn't it?
no one shoots u...u get to stay longer and do more damamge and a win

[fleet ingot]

surival rate is super important
i found it the hard way

[jaunty night]

Your ign is Orange_Havoc?

[compact raptor]

Carrying in a tank with no DPM is pretty much impossible most of the time tbh

[fleet ingot]

I love the kpz and ppl like u call it bad bcoz of low dpm

[compact raptor]

I call it bad because it doesn't have anything going for it

[jaunty night]

this argument is interesting to say the least

[fleet ingot]

kpz has good gun depression, good alpha( might be the highest in tier 9 hts), good mobility , good hulldown capabilty what more u want

[compact raptor]

I wouldn't call 7° good

[rough wave]

Camping is actually OK.

[jaunty night]

[compact raptor]

5 or less is trash
6 is bad
7 is mediocre
8 is good
9 is great
10 and above is amazing

[fleet ingot]

its enough to work a ridge
also it used to have 5 ot 6 before

[normal token]

report and ban this bots

[compact raptor]

The KPz was designed to have 10° of gun depression

It's also one of the lowest alpha 152s

[fleet ingot]

and who cares u can max a destiny as a free to play if you play tournaments, or just sell it if you don't like that simple

[frank berry]

You can feel the pain in his dih 🥀

[rough wave]

Lol

[compact raptor]

KPz HE is just worthless though

[rough wave]

Which KPZ are we talking about?

[compact raptor]

You get a grand total of 14% more damage (80)

[vital plume]

Kpz 70

[fleet ingot]

a 560 alpa is bad in tier 9💀
no ht in tier 9 has a higher alpha than kpz 70

imagine telling that to the highest apha tank

[rough wave]

Oh I thought he was referring to the 50 t.

[fleet ingot]

it's already good enough

[compact raptor]

560 is not 150/152 alpha damage

The 152 light tanks do that damage, you're a heavy tank

[vital plume]

Brother its for the sake of balancing.

A tank 2 tiers below it has 640 and it pretty much rules tier 7

[fleet ingot]

wotb tanks have got nothing to do with real life tanks
U realise that?
U think the military of the world is gonna give all the secrets to wg?

[compact raptor]

T92 gets better HE btw

[jaunty night]

They arent even unicum stats wise i wouldn't take their rambling to heart

[fleet ingot]

it's a td
foch tier 9 does 1000 in 2.5 seconds I can also so that

[compact raptor]

Bruh?
Alpha damage is already entirely arbitrary, but most 152s do over 600

It's HE does the same amount of damage as a normal 152 AP

[vital plume]

Another thing that KPZ 70 gets very good gun handling for what it is.
Many of the 120/130mm heavy tanks at the same tier, or even higher. Don't have the handling the Kpz70 offers for the damage it deals

[jaunty night]

[fleet ingot]

yeah ur right, I am going.....have a great day

[fleet ingot]

yeah that was for u bro😂
I am off to go for my catto quest

[jaunty night]

Gl

[vital plume]

What's up with all the cat sniffers now?

Oh yeah forgot about the new event

[jaunty night]

😂

[golden prairie]

hi

[compact raptor]

Would it really be that unfair if the KPz-70 had 880 HE?

[crude thunder]

Yes, lets allow a tier 9 heavy to be able to roll 1,000+ damage in a single shell.

[fleet ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-angry-cat-go-away-gif-25389837

[crude thunder]

I cant possibly see the problem with that.

[compact raptor]

880 will never roll over 1000

[crude thunder]

That'll 2-shot almost every Tier 8.

[vital plume]

If they did say goodbye to your gun handling and dispersion stats.

[fleet ingot]

yoooooooo
says the guy with a cat in their profile pic😂

[stuck root]

bro what?? do 880 times 1.25

[compact raptor]

It's 90 pen HE though, it's not like it can just go pen someone with it

[fleet ingot]

cute cat btw

[crude thunder]

Max roll would be 1,100

[compact raptor]

Actually usable 152 HE

[vital plume]

It ain't mine this one is stray. It Just chills near where i work so it lets people pick him up and pet him

[crude thunder]

Is dealing a quarter of a Maus's HP not good enough for you?

[jaunty night]

Caliban has 860 average and its max roll is 1075 so 880 yea itll be over 1100

[crude thunder]

I'm supposed to have the bad takes here.

[stuck root]

How about the 4005 gets a HE gun

[vital plume]

The animatronics do get a bit looksmaxxing in the night

[fleet ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-funny-cat-gif-3463013923404008395

[stuck root]

4 shell 220 HE pen

[compact raptor]

Why when the AP does only 80 less damage but has the benefit of being AP.

The HE just sucks since it's actually unusable against anything with a spall liner (everything paper basically)

[vital plume]

Give it the Conway's 5.5 inch gun but like a double shot autoloader i dunno

I hate imperial...5.5 inch is like 140ish mm? Never paid attention to my math classes

[compact raptor]

KPz 70's gun behaves more like a 140 than a 152 tbh

[crude thunder]

Not everything needs to be broken you know.

[jaunty night]

With your logic 183mm should be one shotting all the tanks blitz has then

[vital plume]

Would be a lot funnier if it was gonna be real.

For like a day or two

[crude thunder]

Give 183 3,000 damage HE

[compact raptor]

Spall Liner: Reduces damage received from HE shells by 20%

It reduces its HE to doing less damage than AP, what even is the point of using HE on paper tanks when you're just gonna do less damage?

[crude thunder]

Did the Leopard 1 and new German Light already disappear from your mind?

[compact raptor]

My point is that the HE is BAD
The US 152 light tanks have HE with more alpha damage than it (it's basically the same gun)

[crude thunder]

Plenty of tanks are easy to HE, and dont have Spall.
This just sounds like a

[jaunty night]

I hope no one takes advice from this man

[crude thunder]

I wouldnt.

[vital plume]

Don't you worry about spall liner...it has its days numbered

[compact raptor]

Why risk it magically nonpenning when I can just slap them with an AP shell that does almost the same damage?

[cold grotto]

. @jaunty night lol

[vital plume]

All provisions have their days numbered now... actually.

[cold grotto]

After reforged releases and new players join: "what's a provision?"

[jaunty night]

Talking about @compact raptor

[cold grotto]

Ohhhh, I thought cause u replied to him haha

[compact raptor]

Yeah go on, don't take advice from someone who actually knows what they're doing and is just annoyed at the state of one tank because it's just a pile of really mediocre stats for what it claims to be

[jaunty night]

My guy i wouldn't call stats like this good for "someone who knows what they're doing"

[stuck root]

The t92 just cant win. rockets removed. armor removed now the HE is the problem

[compact raptor]

Yeah go ahead, pull out the stats card on someone who's not even bothering to pad them

[vital plume]

Naaaaah
T92 still the best tier 9 light tanks despite the nerfs.

[jaunty night]

Stats say everything about a persons caring for the game and level of skill tbh and the opinions you're talking definitely dont point to a "good player"

[cold grotto]

Object 84 also

[compact raptor]

Based on what?

[stuck root]

pre nerf conway was a dog

[jaunty night]

Anyone who survives over 40% of their battles

[compact raptor]

Just because I can't be bothered to be a sweaty tryhard, I clearly don't know what I'm doing?

[vital plume]

I hate the 84 with passion that thing doesn't hit anything when i need it to.

Tracer shells carrying it. You are allowed to kill me over this take

[stuck root]

my conway stats and ive never played a regular battle since it was nerfed

[jaunty night]

Im not gonna argue with someone who thinks theyre right lol if you want those backward opinions keep them

[compact raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[cold grotto]

Haha your experiences then

But really, I've had no issues when I used it, actually was fun and nice to play
I'd say this and t92 are best t9 lights

[jaunty night]

Dont forget pre nerf vicks cr

[cold grotto]

I love vickers still but talking state of rn
Pre nerf vickers was a different level haha

[pseudo plover]

is there a way to unlock the fps on pc (120+) ? im willing to edit files

[stuck root]

the tier 9s were just better back then

[leaden kite]

You can choose 120 FPS in the settings

[pseudo plover]

I meant over 120, I can see that there is only 30,60 and 120

[sterile finch]

He meant disabling the fps cap and let it run unlocked

[leaden kite]

There's no way to unlock the FPS
No reason to anyway

[compact raptor]

Also your entire argument is hinging on me not having over 40% survival rate, this is probably because I don't spend the whole match just sitting at the back since that's very boring.
I actually go fight people

[sterile finch]

I’m not sure if it’s possible tbh, prolly is

[stuck root]

this thing that went un nerfed for years

[leaden kite]

They need to unnerf it
it's terrible now

[jaunty night]

My guy youre still groaning? We already ended this go grovel at yourself with your bad takes and "good stats"

[vital plume]

Wt was once king

It still is very good don't ever sleep on it. But THIS thing was a tier 10 facing against 8's most of the time.

[sterile finch]

Oooh, so blue I can’t see the blue

[compact raptor]

You're the one that brought up my stats

[jaunty night]

And i also dropped this convo so why are you still riding it?

[compact raptor]

Bring up stats
Ok bye

Yeah not gonna work on me

[cold grotto]

What's blue?

[compact raptor]

I don't need stats or spending hours being a sweaty tryhard to know what's good and what isn't

[red wagon]

Rookie😉

[vital plume]

Anyone brought some popcorn? I forgot to prep mine so i am just hanging here

[fervent viper]

71 battles last 30 days 😭

[glacial eagle]

My stats are better than your stats means my opinion is better than yours

[stuck root]

I was wondering why mine was red

[compact raptor]

The HE is bad, this is objective.
Pretty sure it's one of the worst scaled HEs in the game since most do like 25% more damage

[red wagon]

Just in the process of popping now🍿

[sterile finch]

Rookie, mine is black.

[jaunty night]

You should read their takes higher up, bad enough to make your braincells drop

[vital plume]

Do you guys have a color?

[glacial eagle]

I have zero because I’m cool

[jaunty night]

I stole your color btw

[compact raptor]

At least I have the balls to question the state of balance for some of the vehicles in this game

[glacial eagle]

Dark green is the new pink

[inner wedge]

i love how people are talking win average. The real problem is there is no skill based match making. I'm really tired of every time an event starts we have people come back who are so lost. Then you see 0 to 7 battles ... just messes up your win rate.

[glass girder]

You clearly have a 46%wr mindset

[jaunty night]

Yes a tank thats mobile enough to push med side where it can pen tanks with HE you want to give 880 alpha? You call that good balancing?

[vital plume]

Guess what happened when WG did implement a SBMM in the game

Take a WILD freaking guess

[ashen relic]

Such a scary image

[compact raptor]

How many times do we have to explain to people that skill based matchmaking will only end up with everyone around 50% winrate?

[fervent viper]

I couldn't even process what the guy wants

[glacial eagle]

They are a really bad player, wouldn’t trust them even in a camping e100

[inner wedge]

There is no fun or skill if you are in seal clubbing games

[jaunty night]

He wants HE to be better like irl tank calibers and kpz70 should have 880 alpha HE

[sterile finch]

My loss rate is lower than that lmao, not that it means much tbh. Low bar to clear

[glass girder]

Nice ego

[inner wedge]

BTW I love this new bug. Claim button all of a sudden disappeared a couple days ago.

[compact raptor]

Nah, I just want damage and caliber to be consistent.
There are 152s that have HE that isn't a complete joke

[glacial eagle]

No claiming for you

[fervent viper]

So then they should gives all 560 alpha tanks that HE, but when he's kpz would get hed for 900 by hori he wouldn't like it 🤷

[jaunty night]

Ikr

[sterile finch]

I’ll keep scaring you with this image lmao

[cold grotto]

I want to be dark red

[compact raptor]

Ho-Ri is a tier 10 turretless TD though, why shouldn't it have alpha?

[glacial eagle]

Aren’t you already?

[leaden kite]

The thing with the Ho-Ri is that it actually has a good reload time

[cold grotto]

Nah, just normal red rn
Need to tryhard more

[fervent viper]

Yeah but following this guys logic hori should have 880 HE alpha also

[glacial eagle]

Ahhh pro red player

[compact raptor]

Yeah why not?

[cold grotto]

Yea, need to reach dark red
Maybe by next month

[vital plume]

Do yall even get a color based on your stats? Mine is missing

[compact raptor]

880 is still still low for a 152

[glacial eagle]

I don’t have stats as I’m too good

[leaden kite]

I think more like 680-700 since it's a 150mm

[vital plume]

Kill me over this take

But Conway premium hesh should get the alpha buffed

670 -> 700

[leaden kite]

Yes it should

[fervent viper]

For me it doesn't really matter lol, I'm a cali and full prammo hori enjoyer

[stuck root]

I have a video I want to send but it's just going to get deleted

[sterile finch]

Come on 60tp has 750 alpha on pc. Obviously we need the same for 152s and 150s

[compact raptor]

It's actually funny how Conway's 140 has more alpha damage than KPz's 152

[glacial eagle]

Not a cali hori enjoyer

[vital plume]

Ww2 winner bonus idk

[sterile finch]

Welcome to the land of free speech

[compact raptor]

KPz-70 is a joint USA-Germany project, so that's invalid

[bronze gust]

damn

[fervent viper]

☕

[vital plume]

Then both dropped out the thing and went to do things their own way...

The U.S came up with the XM-803 that would eventually become the first Abrams.

[compact raptor]

So much wasted pen...

[jaunty night]

This looks like my stbs ammo

[fervent viper]

My type 71 and stb looks same almost

[glacial eagle]

I think I’ve just had a mental breakdown over that

[compact raptor]

Wasn't it the XM-1?
The 803 is basically just an MBT-70 with slight changes

[vital plume]

Trying to make a tech tree out of IRL tanks hurts my head sum' awful

[fervent viper]

It's fine

[fervent viper]

I'm still doing 3k+ average so 🤷

[vital plume]

Funny thing around that same time the Germans did something similar with the French. Joined forces to make a MBT but they ended up dropping the alliance to make their own designs.

The germans eventually to the Leopard 1 through the Kampfpanzer standard

And the french with the AMX 30

[compact raptor]

STB's gold has to be some kind of meme

[glacial eagle]

I used to do that with mk6

[sterile finch]

290 ap isn’t even that good though

[fervent viper]

It is

[vital plume]

This is like TD standard ammo pen it will go through a lot. But not insane armor.

[sterile finch]

The 320 we used to get was excellent, but 290? That’s below td standard ammo

[compact raptor]

At least it's not Progetto's 290 HEAT (no normalisation)

[sterile finch]

Albeit this is with rammer not cali. There still has been a 10 ish mm pen nerf

[cold grotto]

290 vs medium side is fine, will pen against TD snupers as well which is all you really need
Not frontline against a heavy

[autumn flicker]

Damn. That's actually insane

[fervent viper]

Pretty sure it pens e100 turret too

[cold grotto]

Doesn't everything gold pen it?

[sterile finch]

Idk tbh, in a world of 334 heat, 290 ap is pretty unimpressive. Even with cali you’re getting like 313?

[compact raptor]

But tbh, it always runs cali since vents are useless

[fervent viper]

Not really, aprc needs to be 320+ and for heat it's like 310

Even then it's not 100%

[cold grotto]

Never noticed tbh
Everything seems easy pen for me but idk

[compact raptor]

HEAT needs the most pen actually since it doesn't negate sloping at all

[sterile finch]

It also loses no pen over distance.

[fervent viper]

🤯

[vital plume]

At the very best no roof armor is safe with premium heat. Most ap/apcr would bounce

[sterile finch]

😱

[compact raptor]

Not that relevant on the tiny maps we have

[vital plume]

Did we got tired of yapping? I don't mean that offensively though...the silence is haunting

[compact raptor]

I could yap some more about incredibly inconsistent armour profiles

[vital plume]

No thank you i believe we had enough about tank balancing

[hardy lotus]

always more debates

[cold grotto]

Worse feeling:
Kv2 HE hellcat
Smasher HE super hellcat

Which is worse lol

[compact raptor]

Nah I mean tanks that randomly bounce things they probably shouldn't have

[fathom urchin]

Track crit in any tank is the worst

[cold grotto]

Best feeling fr

[vital plume]

Track "crit" that doesn't even destroy the tracks

[fathom urchin]

😩

[vital plume]

Am i the only one that gets the tracks taken off easily by 1-2 shots of 75mm?

Because when i shoot at like E5 tracks with a 128mm it doesn't do nothing!

[spring vector]

Has anyone getting this iasue?

[vital plume]

It takes a while to load...but I didn't expect it to take that long when its an event screen not a feed from the news tab

[compact raptor]

What if some tanks which could have more depression, but don't for reasons, got the improved vertical stabiliser instead of camo net (useless)?

[vital plume]

I feel like WG wants to make major changes to equipments too. but not quite yet...they started with the removal of provisions on reforged (applying some of the buffs from provisions into existing equipments)

[spring vector]

Right, i can't participate in the event thats all i know rn

[compact raptor]

PC has some equipment that could be brought in. Like turbocharger

You run Rammer, Turbo, Hardening

[vital plume]

Don't worry. The event tab has nothing to do with the event besides letting you know how to progress in it

Through the rest of the month and march. There will be special quests to complete so you get the Cats.

[compact raptor]

I could probably count the tanks that use camo net on one hand

[spring vector]

Oh i see

[north wind]

im the best driver frfr

[wise zealot]

KV-2 HE hellcat
Hellcat has lower hp than shellcat

[compact raptor]

Still waiting for them to add the Even 90

[vital plume]

They teased us with some event screens back in 21 i believe... when big boss was the new gamemode

[wise zealot]

Have the tier 8 elc bis instead-WG

[vital plume]

They are currently adding something similar.

Amx ELC 901

That pretty much behaves like a tier 8 SP 1C

[compact raptor]

Can we have the ELC with the gun it actually has irl?

[wise zealot]

90mm one?

[stuck root]

No the 155mm

[compact raptor]

Yeah, since the current ELC is an abomination that has guns that never touched that turret

You don't get a 90mm nor do you get a real turret, only the bad sides of both from PC

[vital plume]

When I started playing wot console i was surprised to see that the 75mm gun on the ELC bis could rotate the turret 360 degrees.

And the 90mm had it locked at 45 each side.

It was like so mind-blowing to me

[wise zealot]

too bad they scrapped the gun

[compact raptor]

I don't think it would even be OP

[golden prairie]

sheridan missile in urpsing lol ( not a doubleshot missile )

[vital plume]

If i knew how to aim those suckers id play it more. But i don't (cuz i suck)

[glacial zenith]

When your shell gets absorbed by track moments

[vital plume]

Thats a big boye...imma take a wild guess and say that this is a 105mm suck on a KV1 hull?

[compact raptor]

Pretty sure it's a 75

[wise zealot]

They just made Grille 15 rotate 360 degrees

[vital plume]

DAMNATION

[compact raptor]

PENETRATION!!!!

[stuck root]

KP rewind OP

[compact raptor]

One of the strongest abilities.
I love to troll 183s with it by deliberately letting them shoot me and then just erasing it

[stuck root]

That happened in the replay

[vital plume]

What if every time uprising came around WG would like shuffle the card deck and all tanks have different abilities during the duration of the gamemode?

Like for a week the STB gets invisibility (as currently)

But next time it has like battle trance.

And the next play dead.

[radiant heath]

that's a stupid idea.

I dig it

[vital plume]

That would be funny for a while.

Invisible maus...what could go wrong?

[compact raptor]

Bruh

[vital plume]

Hunter's mark smasher
Play dead annihilator
Battle trance borsig

[compact raptor]

Play dead annihilator isn't even that much better

Actually, I'd rather fight that than one that can spin me around

[visual flicker]

What is this camo? Some mod?

[vital plume]

But every time uprising came around there would be a surprise for us.

Because today when you engage a smasher you know it can spin you arround.

But what if it could turn invisible next time?

There was one time i envisioned like a DTM gamemode with no kill cap or objectivs. Only a timer.

Once the clock reaches 0 the team with the biggest body count wins.

[stuck root]

ive been saying this for years the only time they have changed an ability was removing speed boost from foch in mad games

[stuck root]

yes

[vivid kayak]

And a few others. I still miss my foch airlines

[final swan]

Can I mod wotb on Android or it got removed? I wanna install voice packs and gun sound n stuff

[sterile finch]

Your average wehraboo tiger player

[stuck root]

was about to play the jg and the game crashed it was a sign 🙏

[final swan]

?

[compact raptor]

I love queuing up in a tier 7 only to get into a tier 8 battle, because I'm not allowed in tier 6 for reasons

[vital plume]

It be like that. Tier 7 suffers

[viral swift]

[compact raptor]

Why does Sheridan get blood trail?
How are you supposed to fight it?

[keen compass]

Since tier 8 is a very popular tier, chances are that tier 7s will get uptiered a lot because they need to fill in tier 7/8 battles

[viral swift]

Now i need to get it the second time

[stuck root]

no

[glass girder]

I see, I see

[viral swift]

You stand in place

[viral swift]

[compact raptor]

And get nuked

[keen compass]

Luckily a lot of people just have their user as is in Discord

[glass girder]

Totally not me

[fathom urchin]

You play dead

You use rewind

[vital plume]

Yep...thats me...

[fathom urchin]

My archnemesis

[sterile finch]

Fr. Muahaha lemme see then

[valid scarab]

can we please make it so tortise's armor actually works if you use it properly

[sterile finch]

Lmao

[keen compass]

There are a couple websites for that (and a game for that)

[keen compass]

And using it properly consists of...?

[sterile finch]

I wanted to give them a chance yk… alas it is what it is.

[keen compass]

Oh wow now I can't play the game in this part of the map!

[viral swift]

Sheridan will miss

[vital plume]

If it was me they would hit that flat MG port on arcade view with premium and half the HP on my tortoise would be gone

[valid scarab]

make the right weakspot need prammo at the very least, buff it to like 270mm
if not that, then make the roof at least 50mm, and buff the left side superstructure so it can't be penned by ap so easily so the armor is just better overall while keeping the two weakspots

[sterile finch]

Lmao, no worries. You just proved my doubts. You know since you’re on NA you could 1v1 me. But that would be a waste of my time

[keen compass]

270mm is past many tier 8 prammo rounds. I think that kind of thickness on its own is insane

[vital plume]

Tortoise is gas to play when you finally get the hand on how it works. Crap is disgusting when it hits its shots...key word... when.

[valid scarab]

should a t9 superheavy td not be able to bully t9s in a proper position? what is a t8 meant to do about a hulldown jagdtiger or t30?

[sterile finch]

I’d still take a jagtiger over a tortoise though. You have more armor overall, not too mention there’s no hatches

[keen compass]

Jagd is just overtuned though

[compact raptor]

Not really, it's pretty accurate

[valid scarab]

exactly, my point is that having a higher tier being able to bully lower tiers when its in a proper position isn't uncommon

[vernal notch]

uprising battle btw

[sterile finch]

How much dpm does it even have with adrenaline & tungsten

[keen compass]

5264

[sterile finch]

Flat 5k with Cali…

Darn maybe I need to get this thing

[fathom urchin]

🗣️ 🔥

[sterile finch]

@glass girder ^

[valid scarab]

its not like anything else about tortise is particularly impressive either (including gun)
the gun is same stats besides reload as conq, but it doesnt get as good of a hesh, and the gun handling is significantly worse
the speed maxes out at 20kph
it gets no special consumables or provisions
and the armor essentially relies on rng to bounce stuff even if you play properly and gun block cupola

[keen compass]

Gun blocking is bad if your opponent fires AP or APCR

[stuck root]

NO fighting

[sterile finch]

It’s still extra armour, just not a whole lot

[keen compass]

Yeah but 3CRB just destroys your roof

Granted, any 120 is going through anyways, but still. The lower calibers get to if you gun block

[sterile finch]

How thick is it anyways? We talking needing 152s or 122s?

[keen compass]

120. It's 38mm

[valid scarab]

im pretty sure there is some pen loss over distance mechanic even for ap and apcr (similar to heat)
like ive bounced plenty of things with gun blocking that should've gone through, since gun blocking gives you like ~255mm of cupola armor at most

[sterile finch]

38mm… well ain’t that kind of tragic

[keen compass]

Then you're lucky the enemies don't know about 3CRB >:)

[vital plume]

Number 1 enemy of all T95's out there

[compact raptor]

Nobody can do anything

[keen compass]

AT2 players cry

[wise zealot]

What is the equivalent of 330 ap pen to heat and apcr?

[keen compass]

Depends what armor angle you're hitting and its thickness

[valid scarab]

the sad thing is that tortise doesn't have the dpm to make up for all it's downsides, at15 at least has monstrous dpm, not to mention better armor tier for tier

[keen compass]

3.8k is still nice, though

[bright meadow]

Heat does not over distance , however T10 values kinda ignore loss over distance

[valid scarab]

against a 60° plate, 357 apcr and 378 heat

[valid scarab]

pen loss over distance as in after hitting spaced armor

[keen compass]

Only HEAT suffers the extreme pen loss over distance after hitting a non-main armor plate and penetrating

AP and APCR lose the pen that any shell would

[golden prairie]

hi chat 👋

[stuck root]

blood trail is the problem

[valid scarab]

tbh like at the very least give tortise the 184 hesh of the conq/215 gun

[stuck root]

the conq needs 10000 dpm to do anything

[valid scarab]

and please give it ssb, gear oil, and/or just a mobility buff
@stuck root bro conq is goated

[sterile finch]

Wouldn’t even be worthwhile tbh, you don’t have the speed to relocate to the side/rear of targets. Other than yoloing ig…

[valid scarab]

yeah but at least you get to bully t8s and some t9/10s

[stuck root]

eh i hated it when i played it (never researched the tracks)

[sterile finch]

Ay, surely the poor e5 needed to get farmed with hesh by another tank..

[valid scarab]

how long ago? i heard the change that made it good was relatively recent

[unique niche]

what we able to do with these cat boxes?

[stuck root]

2017

[compact raptor]

Play dead isn't much better, it's literally a get out of jail free card
Played badly? Press E
Wanna yolo someone? Press E
Spotted? Press E

[valid scarab]

consider giving it another try, its armor is good against t8s and troll against 9/10s, and the gun is the same as the 215 with a bit less dpm, plus it got ssb and sandbags

[fathom urchin]

Goated ability

[compact raptor]

It can also just last forever

[fathom urchin]

Also negates other abilities which is hilarious

[visual flicker]

Thats an ability I would love to obtain

[visual flicker]

Conqueror is imo the the most painful tier 9 to play. I always called it "trash with hesh"

[stuck root]

50 battles and at tier 10 doing 0 damage