general-blitz-discussion

[deft basin]

Just take your extra HP on maus because I have a strong feeling you'll need it

[ivory elm]

Will be exciting to see the new game

[solar cargo]

how do we know we’ll be selected for the test?

[valid sundial]

Opa

[tranquil prawn]

I don't need maus, i need e50m

[tawny gorge]

you dont

[granite agate]

And I play from 2014… if you don’t have a t10 you’re still new

[valid sundial]

Eu sou novo aqui

[tranquil prawn]

I HAVE TIER X DUDE

[rough wave]

Danza kuduro

[tawny gorge]

like what 1?
Probaly collector fromcrates?

[granite agate]

Can still be tricky with proper movements

[pallid junco]

But what do you average in it

[deft basin]

maus movements are some of the slowest there is lmao

[valid sundial]

Que eeee

[hidden dune]

best tier 10 in this game XD

[granite agate]

As you literally said you didn’t even have a t8….

[frigid wagon]

Hi there!

[pallid junco]

Not for anyone above 2700 average 💀

[tranquil prawn]

No, but I had 2 of it, but then I lost them in gambling, and tier X i was talking about was amx 50 b

[tawny gorge]

bro what 🤣

[hidden dune]

for me a Maus player

[deft basin]

That idk, been on blitz for almost 2 months but I enjoy Maus on PC

[granite agate]

That would fall into the range of unicum and most people don’t average that, when you speak for a tank do it from a standpoint of your average player my guy

[valid sundial]

Tô muito ansioso pra esse novo atualizações do world of tank blitz

[hidden dune]

i dont like wot pc -_-

[tranquil prawn]

But amx 50b was on account I don't like

[glacial eagle]

looks like i'm not gonna get through with 2699

[rough wave]

@hidden dune can you understand what he's saying

[hidden dune]

Wot pc is a very boring game

[pallid junco]

Your out of luck bro idk what to say

[tranquil prawn]

Not really

[deft basin]

It is not enjoyable in it's current state but I have 14 years of PC gameplay so not throwing it away entirely

[hidden dune]

I'm really anxious to this new update for World of Tank Blitz.

[granite agate]

I’m 50/50 on changed to blitz… it’s not the same game it was in 2014 when I started so change isn’t anything new, and the game will be losing much of its nostalgia… but it’s just so much of that as is..

[tawny gorge]

maybe for anyone not liking the update jsut do what Alexandra said

[hidden dune]

46h in steam + 112h in game center, i can say, its boring

[tranquil prawn]

Nice

[granite agate]

Same as saying stop playing?, nvm misunderstood

[pallid junco]

1. She’s saying not to install the particular commander not the game.

2. My issue with commanders is they will likely be pay to win

[tawny gorge]

yeah but just delete game so you dont get reminded about it and keep annoying players on discord about this update

[hidden dune]

perfect XD

[deft basin]

I can say I still enjoy it though (occasionally) lmao

[granite agate]

Thought she meant don’t update the game not don’t install the voice lines

[tawny gorge]

yeah but i mean to just dont install game as well

[fathom urchin]

lol they said the commanders for money won’t be “better” than the free ones

But you just know those paid ones will likely have a combination of perks that makes them very desirable (but still not identify as “better” in their words)

[pallid junco]

Have you considered just clicking the na server role button?

[pallid junco]

The commanders for money will give you free tungsten for the whole game or something dumb

[vapid charm]

Люди на русском писать кто нибудь умеет?

[glacial eagle]

why would they admit the paid ones will be better

[hidden dune]

commanders are completely free

[tawny gorge]

meh maybe ig

[rough wave]

Female commanders..

[fathom urchin]

😩 I’m worried. I’ll still give it a chance since I’ve been here from the very start. But I am very worried.

[pallid junco]

As of now, they will obviously be monetized in draws and crates. If you don’t think so your delusional

[sage wind]

So you have no life outside of video games… gotcha, what a important person in society

[hidden dune]

in draws ???

[pallid junco]

60k games over 14 years is not even that bad

[fathom urchin]

😂 fr

[tranquil prawn]

My dad has 9k hours there...

[deft basin]

you pop in here after getting clowned on by all of -REX- to say that? I know players with 100k+ games and my acct is 14 years old clown

[hidden dune]

The commanders are the tank's equipment and crew, without them you can't play, Wargaming itself has already said that they will be completely free

[frigid wagon]

Very, very true.

[pallid junco]

Free for now, again, they will make it pay to win after they see how much money they will make

[deft basin]

trying to clown on my <60k games when players like this exist

[hidden dune]

i have +16k in blitz, i play 12h/D in 5years XD

[granite agate]

Still amounts to 250 straight days of playing assuming a match averages 6 minutes which is wild

[hidden dune]

Say only once that wargaming did this outside of collab events

[rough wave]

You know this dude?

[frigid wagon]

I know a guy who has a full-time job, a family with 2 kids and... 95 thousand battles since 2010. 52% of winrate if I remember it correctly. He's just a normal guy, who likes the game and still lives a good life.

[deft basin]

almost half my accts games were between 2011-2015 (11 y/o - 15 y/o has quite a bit of free time)

[sage wind]

Getting clowned on Rex?

[pallid junco]

You clearly are a new player if you think wg won’t pull some monetization with commanders

[hidden dune]

If you keep speculating so many wrong things when the update arrives you will just abandon the game without even trying

[quasi grove]

Since this game are going to be Fortnite, let go to War thunder guys! It's free!

[hidden dune]

new player with 16k H in 5y in blitz ?

[deft basin]

The fact you still think you are doing something useful in life is wild buddy and I guarantee I wasn't even playing in that tourney

[pallid junco]

After 10 years of blitz I know how scummy wargaming can be, forgive me for being skeptical of somthing that can easily be made pay to win

[coarse creek]

clearly you need to be clueless and assume wargaming would never do that!

[hidden dune]

u cant be p2w XD, u pay to lose with the tank

[pallid junco]

The game is not pay to win now, but commanders add an avenue for it to be pay to win

[tranquil prawn]

I saw players with 300k

[deft basin]

Lionkimg is just a silly clown

[glacial eagle]

wargaming bans swearing but allows gambling, wargaming never does anything contradictory

[pallid junco]

Remember when blitz didn’t have gambling? And there was no 5.5

[frigid wagon]

You can lose only 100% but win 2000%. I see no problem in this.

[deft basin]

The 190k battles guy? The entirity of NA server knows him, it's an older dude (retired) who plays WoT quite literally all day everyday

[sage wind]

😭

[hidden dune]

The commanders are the crew and the tank's equipment, they are all free, there is no possibility of them being p2w because then you could not enter battle

[pallid junco]

Free for now*

[coarse creek]

for now they are

[mild sequoia]

Переход на новый движок ето отстой

[frigid wagon]

What a gamer. o7.

[hidden dune]

Yes I remember, and this new gamble improved the game by 200%, I got 50k gold spending only 100

[glacial eagle]

i remember when they first released crates without the percentages and only did because of the law

[pallid junco]

Bro got lucky once in crates and is now a wg shill 😭

[hidden dune]

impressive, you are the most imb*** guy I have ever seen in the chat, you refuse to understand what is written in the chat

[glacial eagle]

do you play wot pc?

[deft basin]

yet I'm the one with "no life outside video games"

[polar marlin]

supportive team moment

[pallid junco]

I understand clearly what you are saying, I’m saying you are foolish for believing it

[hidden dune]

If wargaming makes this p2w it wouldn't make sense for half of the updates it has made to date to focus on overall balance

[solemn pawn]

Type 5 on wot xd.

[hidden dune]

i dont like wot pc but i have 150h

[tropic plank]

Our game has come to a critical moment that determines its survival.Hereby,we appeal to everyone to express their demands to WG,safeguard their rights and interests,and resist WG's negative optimization decisions.Let WOTB maintain its own characteristics.This is an update second only to the 5.5 version seven years ago.Perhaps there are any conflicts between players and groups,but now players around the world should unite to prevent the efforts of ten years from going down the drain.

[deft basin]

Type 5 in onslaught sums up bronze 💀

[glacial eagle]

make tech trees great again

[solemn pawn]

type 5 god need buf xd

[pallid junco]

I bet you supported sbmm when they added it too

[shy trail]

no.

[hidden dune]

So here's the thing, if in 1 year after the update the game doesn't become p2w, it will never be p2w

[compact whale]

The last Winter 😞

[rancid oasis]

should I create a clan?

[rough wave]

Everything we built will fall.

[shrewd gale]

remove this.

[rancid oasis]

i want first 50 people here to join my clan if i make one

[glacial eagle]

is it gonna be called Siu

[ornate burrow]

if theres ppl willing to join and if youre willing to keep the clan alive and going? yeah. cause if you disband the clan, that 1 mil credits is going to waste, no compensation or anything. 1 mil creds down the drain entirely.

[hidden dune]

None of that is going to happen XD Are you guys really trying to make the biggest update we've had in 10 years, where thousands of dollars were spent, go down the drain?

[rancid oasis]

if u join i migth create it

[vocal nymph]

played type 5 and strv 103 in onslaught and im quite good

[ornate burrow]

cant hop on blitz atm unfortunately 😭 (also depends on what server were in too)

[solemn pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-panzer-army-spiritus-gif-22314269

[hidden dune]

update 5.5 didn't bring any problems

[rancid oasis]

sui u want me to name it?

[glacial eagle]

hmmm

[deft basin]

At least the strv can be viable, Maus just simply packs Type 5

[hidden dune]

what will fall ?

[rancid oasis]

eu server named idk u guy choose sui or baguette but i'm from uk not french lol

[vocal nymph]

strv 103 in himmel i forgot to say

[rancid oasis]

so what's it going to be create my own eu clan or what?

[deft basin]

I respect a strv himmels pick ngl

[ornate burrow]

yup cant join pal, APAC over here 💔

[polar marlin]

w

[hidden dune]

It wasn't an update that brought an absurd change

[rough wave]

It's just something I saw in a video about monks making artwork

[vocal nymph]

some dude talked trash about me taking strv in himmel and ended up making 3500 dmg i think while he made 500

[ornate burrow]

id better see you pull good games with this,..,.,,,,

[rancid oasis]

who is eu and wants to join my wotb clan

[polar marlin]

I I SIR

[rancid canopy]

@true light absolutely amazing how many stupid teammates exist

[hidden dune]

It seems like the entire community is hating on Wargaming because of the trailer, and they're not even waiting to see the tests on the 24th.

[real wasp]

What tank shoul i restore

[tranquil prawn]

ANOTHER M LET'S GO

[deft basin]

you play it on hill or 1-2 line farm?

[ornate burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502018644193181706/1320871807560974388/image0.gif

[rancid canopy]

Because it sucks

[rancid oasis]

288

[vocal nymph]

ofc we will hate when they add comander that adds your tanks hp, no logicc

[glacial eagle]

the trailer shows the changes that people are hating on, what's a test gonna show that will change peoples minds about removing tech trees

[hidden dune]

First recover the rare tanks, whether seasonal or not, the VRT system will disappear

[tranquil prawn]

Then t40

[rancid oasis]

how 17k gold me 710 gold

[rough wave]

Not everyone is resentful

[rancid canopy]

That's what i did lol

[frigid wagon]

Most complaining is about the UI changes. Those are visual changes which can be seen even before the testing.

[rancid oasis]

y wg removing restore option after update?

[real wasp]

Gambling

[hidden dune]

we are in a game where a tank is a chicken coop and is flying in space releasing power, this update is making the blitz more authentic

[muted fjord]

I'm buying all current 1-3s

[frigid wagon]

Yup.

[muted fjord]

Current tier 1-3 tanks won't be available no more?

[hidden dune]

So you think the current graphics are really better?

[serene sparrow]

For what purpose. No one else will care if you have them lol

[hidden dune]

i need 300K gold in 5 months, i have 225tanks -_-

[frigid wagon]

Graphics? No, Unreal Engine is an insanely good addition. UI? Yes. Big difference.

[rancid canopy]

sub average iq teammates and waffen on enemy team how amazing

[glacial eagle]

i need 800k gold

[rancid oasis]

guys if i my own eu clan will anyone join it?

[muted fjord]

Collection, are they not gonna be available no more?

[serene sparrow]

I guess lol

[deft basin]

What if people just sold tanks........they didn't plan on having lmao

[ruby light]

i need 350k

[rancid oasis]

u will

[muted fjord]

Then there is a purpose if your a collector

[rough wave]

Bruh

[hidden dune]

Regarding the UI, I agree, but apparently there will be more UI options, but the current one will no longer exist unfortunately.

[rancid oasis]

?

[chilly siren]

why is everyone hating the reforge update ?
I feel like its not that of a drastic change
The crew skills are just commanders now, graphics are better, changing t10 to t7 is not an issue no one plays t1-3 anyway
Only annoying thing is the sets, but then its gonna be hard be at first but does it rlly ruin the game ???? Also it seems like they are making tanks harder to grind (i think ?) so that less noobs reach top tier easily ?

[rough wave]

Bruh..

[frigid wagon]

It's great to see that we can understand each other.

We'll see about the last point though.

[hidden dune]

blitz go like this but better

[deft basin]

why people sell so many collector 10s tho

[frigid wagon]

To get gold for gambling -> to have a chance to receive a better tier 10.

Or to buy something from the shop.

[deft basin]

Yeah but you can just sell t9s for 5k and still be good

[deft basin]

I sell everything 9 and under unless it's special (Kpz 07 etc)

[glacial eagle]

i sell everything because why play the game when you can just gamble

[rancid oasis]

i have 58 tanks to restore rahhhh

[true light]

Lol

[frigid wagon]

Can't sell my little T18. So many memories.

[rancid oasis]

next time before I gamble I will ask u guys if i should sell for gambling or not

[hidden dune]

i have more

[deft basin]

46 to recover (all going into the void) and all t9 or less

[real wasp]

I hate wg, they gave xm in shop and i am going to restore tanks

[rough wave]

I'm going to sell mines

[hidden dune]

bruh

[rancid oasis]

still waiting on wg

[real wasp]

18 k gold😭

[shadow mason]

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-sumo-sumo-wrestler-juryo-may-23-basho-gif-12674594615282984453

[hidden dune]

300.000 GOLD

[real wasp]

Bruh

[hidden dune]

GAMBLING life

[glacial eagle]

i need to buy 2k worth of gold

[hidden dune]

I can only recover tanks when I have a draw, it usually comes to 25-60k gold for each draw

[jagged citrus]

Sup

[rancid canopy]

Wow i just love seeing bots with sub 1000 dmg in tier 10 using good tanks

[old hinge]

Hi

[hidden dune]

In the last draw I got 5k gold and 4 collector tanks spending 1200 gold

[rancid oasis]

sell obj 252u for tier 5-10 draw?

[hidden dune]

nop

[glacial eagle]

i'm the bot, how do you feel

[vocal nymph]

removing tier 1-3 is bad choice!

[hidden dune]

u can get this guy in this draw

[rancid canopy]

do you make over 1.5k damage?

[rancid oasis]

?

[old hinge]

Hi

[glacial eagle]

sadly not

[hidden dune]

Save and use in draw Big Surprise

[rancid canopy]

Why not

[quartz pebble]

Here only English language?

[glacial eagle]

i'm a general, i never lead my men at the front

[hidden dune]

y

[rancid oasis]

when is it coming out if do tell me

[quartz pebble]

Where I can get server with EU community?

[hidden dune]

idk

[hidden dune]

@hushed flower

[shy trail]

hm yes
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183400735438798918/1328826858824794123/Screenshot_2025-01-10_142637.png?ex=678c1273&is=678ac0f3&hm=bb4a4c0264ff2f4d589b0c42e66d4652f27705945ef69a128f40a4c03c20716c&

[rancid oasis]

where or when is it? @hidden dune

[hidden dune]

Usually every end of the month

[rough wave]

@rancid oasis @hidden dune you never learn do you?

[hidden dune]

?

discord dies

[vocal nymph]

ofc what will i write, i lost will to play game

[hidden dune]

the guy lost the will to play because of an update that will be in 5 months XD

That's exactly why wargaming is updating this game, there's nothing left for you to do but go into battle

[near blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1069645378569371648/1329491871298490388/attachment.gif

[hidden dune]

When there is an event, it is not something new, it is the same old thing, there is nothing more to evolve, there is nothing more to farm, so just wait for the next update

[sullen fjord]

Weird garage

[hidden dune]

[near blade]

Questionable hangar but overall great

[vocal nymph]

because im playing just to lose all

[hidden dune]

I have no reason to go into battle, there are no events and I've already found the tanks I wanted

[vocal nymph]

there is reason why i started playing the game and why i continued, i lost those now

but i get it focus on children, let them get children

[ornate burrow]

the hell is that?> 114 SP2

[hidden dune]

I think it's 50/50, it's not exactly focused on children because it's the same game, but there are people who prefer a realistic game so they didn't like the update.

[compact perch]

What the flip is that garage. Worries me.

[hidden dune]

Concept 5 [vickers light]

[ornate burrow]

hes about to goon...........

[vocal nymph]

if i prefered realistic i would not even play this game

[visual bay]

How long do we have if we want to restore tanks we want

[compact perch]

Is that a mod or that’s what WG put in there?

[hidden dune]

Blitz was never focused on realism so there's nothing to complain about

[tawny gorge]

what the anime?

[hidden dune]

its a mod (obviously)

[compact perch]

Ok

[ornate burrow]

forblitz got everything at this point, even lightning mcqueen

[shadow mason]

where is bmw m3 gtr from nfs most wanted?

[solemn pawn]

exactly xd

[hidden dune]

1 or 2 ?

[tawny gorge]

your stats are…

[hidden dune]

I've been in the same status for 3 years, I don't play regular battles

[ornate burrow]

just get tiger girl backround :3

[frigid wagon]

At least 3 months.

[tawny gorge]

fair

[wispy goblet]

Hi good morning i m just new here ..

[ancient trout]

“Goodmorning” it’s mid day

[hidden dune]

Granny XD

[wispy goblet]

Wow nice

[ornate burrow]

OH MY GOD I FORGOT ABOUT THAT BACKROUND

[hidden dune]

Do you want to see my blitzstars?

[cerulean flicker]

anyone got anni here?

[ornate burrow]

anni ayuwoki.......................

[hidden dune]

bro i go download it do use in my pc

[cerulean flicker]

nah im talking about annihilator

[normal ingot]

Hello

[tawny gorge]

no i believe you was just joking around, also didnt see your 8 infront of your 577, thought it was only 577 battles not 8,577 😭

[hidden dune]

i sell it

[shadow mason]

Hello

[rancid oasis]

guys should i sell my obj252u rn for 3750 gold?

[hidden dune]

bruh

[ornate burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-fish-fish-panda-panda-fish-swimming-panda-gif-4262099926298511737

[fringe rain]

nah, keep it for a better gambling deal to come up

[rancid oasis]

what is a better gambling deal?

[hidden dune]

This is in almost 6 years of playing, I have around 22-26k battles in total, just adding the ones in special mode

[frigid wagon]

Hi there!

[hidden dune]

bro u only gamble in Big Surprise draw 100% chanse to win

[boreal oar]

wow our first every tournament we did omg

[ornate burrow]

grand surprise?

[rancid oasis]

where is it or when does it come out

[hidden dune]

y

[haughty jolt]

4k bounced...In an e6? Lmao!!!! Turns out. I'm just him.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1322623789242257529/1329917132669980834/Screenshot_1236.png?ex=678c1559&is=678ac3d9&hm=1aa70da1a2dc972fec70fd3cdc6554cf1967d5de6acf08a637c7c75c413663c2&

[hidden dune]

every end of the month

[ornate burrow]

ok at this point, any draw works best..... without sandbox containers.

[rancid oasis]

what do i get from the draw?

[hidden dune]

100% chanse to get gold or a tank

[rancid oasis]

when it comes out ping me plz

[hidden dune]

ok

[rancid oasis]

i haven't seen it yet I think

[hidden dune]

this conteiner

[rancid oasis]

ah i see it, best container ever

[cobalt current]

what is that container

[hidden dune]

y

[rancid oasis]

so i will see this container in 2 weeks today?

[hidden dune]

50/50 or u get gold, or u get tank

[ornate burrow]

yeh thas grand surpris..............................................

[cobalt current]

cool

[hidden dune]

probably, maybe even before (buh u can see this draw in next week

[jaunty night]

Yo can some1 tell me why WG trying to kill their game?

[past shale]

Its 20% Tank and 80% Gold*

[hidden dune]

stay good

[fathom urchin]

^

[cobalt current]

wg are killing thier game!?

[rancid oasis]

I don't see it in shop

[hidden dune]

better get the gold

[past shale]

Sometimes yeah xD

[rancid oasis]

awesome container good?

[hidden dune]

here u can see the conteiner

[past shale]

Not really worth it. Look for better offers

[rancid oasis]

for obj 252u

[hidden dune]

send 1 gift to me XD

[jaunty night]

Bruh For like a year or two they are slowly killing their game...
WoTB player count:📉📉

[rancid oasis]

not paying all luck from my second account

[hidden dune]

all tier 8 is this price

[rancid oasis]

what u think is worth 3750 gold instead of obj252u

[fathom urchin]

Alright we got another one: Will the FULL hp Vk:

a) kill me without aiming
b) sit there and get farmed for all of his HP
c) shoot me with HE
d) get ammoracked by me

[hidden dune]

good if in draw

[past shale]

I personally dont like the 252u. Maybe you like it or not

[ornate burrow]

ammorack?-

[hidden dune]

too high to get ammo

[rancid oasis]

i did but i want to gamble for a better draw or tank but need advice

[real yoke]

A

[fathom urchin]

b) he just sat there and let me shoot him 😭💀

[past shale]

Where do you want to gamble?

[hidden dune]

VK 100 ammorack

bro i need it

[opaque tree]

can some one suggest me usa line

[past shale]

Sheridan is great

[hidden dune]

but i no have money 😓

[opaque tree]

ok ty

[hidden dune]

$2.50 for it

[ornate burrow]

peak gameplay

[rancid oasis]

wdym wotb

[north wind]

frontlining in the grille is funy

[past shale]

Yeah but what draw of crates do you want to gamble?

[rancid oasis]

i want a good tier 10 or 9 tank for 3750 gold

[frank berry]

Smash or pass HE edition: hull hp grille or half hp bc25t

[rancid oasis]

good draw or offers?

[past shale]

You will need insane luck for that 😂. If I was you I would sell the 252u and stack the gold until there is an offer for a T9 or T10 tank

[frigid wagon]

End of the game? Full hp Grille.

[north wind]

you're not getting a t9 or 10 for 3k gold

[frank berry]

Hmm mid game

[glass leaf]

t49 is a pos

[frigid wagon]

B-C for sure.

[wraith vale]

False

[frank berry]

🤝

[glass leaf]

can’t hit cant pen

[wraith vale]

it can

[hidden dune]

T49 is a HE lover (take all he in the game)

[rancid oasis]

sell rn and save the gold?

[glass leaf]

i’m trying to actually damage stuff

[hidden dune]

T49 is a meme tank

[rancid oasis]

guys should i sell obj 252u for 3750 + 710 and save all of it for a better draw?

[hidden dune]

y

[past shale]

You can also wait until you sell it. The tanks value of 3750 Gold wont get lost when its in your garage. But if you dont want to keep it then keep in mind that after the big update in more than 3 months you wont be able to sell it anymore

[torn trail]

i just finished calibration

[hidden dune]

5* months

[rancid oasis]

wdym y i want a tier good or op x or 9

[midnight dragon]

returning after a good minute, how's the STB doing these days

[devout junco]

with unreal engine my Mi 12 is gonna melt bruh

[hidden dune]

i only gamble in the draw to get gold

[glass leaf]

sadly i have to use it to get the sheridan

[hidden dune]

It will be optimized so there won't be much difference from playing blitz currently

[glass leaf]

that engine is unoptimised af for pcs let alone phones

[midnight dragon]

is the STB neverchanging or is the thing getting its face smushed in the mud, i gotta know

[hidden dune]

After the reforged update you will be able to get Sheridan using any tank in the line

[glass leaf]

3090+dlss to maybe have stable 60 fps

[rancid oasis]

which 1

[viral burrow]

Actually from what I understand with t49 it’s rng based but also a lot of pros can play it extremely well so I’d say it’s skill based also idk I’m only 65% in it

[glass leaf]

the reforged update gonna be mediocre at best

[hidden dune]

UE5 will be optimized for all platforms equally, but Blitz is a very light game so there isn't much to do.

[frank berry]

Reforged gonna be the best update fr 🗣️

[glass leaf]

we’ll see

[hidden dune]

best update of this game

[viral burrow]

Reforge would be amazing without the commanders and tier changes and sets

[river spire]

Lesta server?

[civic hawk]

Only person who I've seen say this 🙏💀

[torn trail]

eu

[frank berry]

😭 ✌️ I ain’t being fr

[river spire]

🔥💯

[hidden dune]

I'm basically the target audience for the update, there's nothing else to do in this game, it's been 6 years playing the same thing without changing absolutely anything

[frank berry]

what are sets anyways 😭 I’m so confused on that

[civic hawk]

I guessed

[hidden dune]

is just this, u can up the line using any tank

[frank berry]

I am not happy my tier 10’s gonna be tier 7 😔 is there gonna be new tier 10’s?

[viral burrow]

Like tank lines but mixed into one

[viral burrow]

This gives them room to add more tanks it’s a main reason for them dropping the tiers

[frank berry]

So is it like grinding the tech trees with extra steps?

[hidden dune]

the current tier 10 will be tier 7 tanks, as we will have tier 11 tanks in the future

[civic hawk]

Might be tier 8 (like 11)

[frank berry]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭 WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS GOOD BRUH

[hidden dune]

y

[viral burrow]

Wg doesn’t want tier 11s it’ll cap out at X that’s why they dropped the tier Xs to 7s

[hidden dune]

All players have been asking for this for years

[frank berry]

I must not be those players 😭 ✌️

[civic hawk]

Lowkey, 1 - 3 tiers are useless, dont question me

[hidden dune]

Just watch the explanation in the trailer and you'll be up to date with everything, and you'll see that this update will make you addicted to the game again.

[viral burrow]

I rlly don’t like the key idea they should’ve kept it experience but make it slower progression

[frank berry]

Hopefully I’m gonna be salty I’m sent back to the mid tier my ahh thought I was done 😔

[hidden dune]

tier 1-3 go be vintage tier

[covert palm]

This 50 100 is a lot of fun haha, imo it's pretty much a direct upgrade to Emil 1951!😄

[civic hawk]

Fr

[viral burrow]

With more tank tiers avg dmg should change a lot

[frank berry]

True

[hidden dune]

It will take 5 to 6 months for the update to arrive, and you will not lose your current progress in the game.

[dusty ruin]

Snacc since when are you so active on here @viral burrow smh

[viral burrow]

Except with trash players who can’t do 1k in tier X now

[hidden dune]

That feeling of upgrading your blitz account again and discovering new things will come back XD

[frank berry]

That’s good at least hopefully they release some better tanks to grind 😛

[viral burrow]

I’m everywhere’s

[hidden dune]

There are currently a lot of beginners in the high tier, older players are leaving the game basically because it is boring.

[pure shell]

I love obliterating the noobs. They’re soo clueless about how to actually use their tank.

[rancid oasis]

okay selling obj 252u and keeping my 3750+710 gold

[hidden dune]

my blitz tank lines, i dont have nothing to do here

[frank berry]

What about the bc 🤨

[hidden dune]

the only thing left for me to do now is to raise my status

[rancid oasis]

yh?

[covert palm]

I started buying a bunch of the tech trees back haha

[hidden dune]

I'm too lazy to buy, I only play with Maus and the 183, even though I have 40 tier 10 tanks

[rancid oasis]

good or don't do it

[frank berry]

I feel that I mostly play the prog since it’s fun for me and the Sheridan

[viral burrow]

Yeah but it’s wg fault for making progression so easy with all these xp multipliers and then game modes they need to remove those multipliers and keep it as an experience system not these keys

[hidden dune]

There's this guy too, I ended up selling it by accident thinking I had selected the PAK 30

[pure shell]

Rate the lineup

[hearty pawn]

duncan, lisa and kai seem pretty broken commanders..

[viral burrow]

And add advancement rewards for hitting certain objectives or doing something in battle who wouldn’t like getting a little bit of gold or a quick experience boost that last for a few games nothing insanely game changing

[hidden dune]

bruh

[frank berry]

Don’t let me catch you in the 30b with my 183 lil bro 🤫

[cerulean ingot]

Don’t worry about the number in front of your tank changing, worry about the p2w commanders we are getting.

You will see people in here say they won’t be p2w, and maybe those people believe that. But the Warships team said the same thing. Guess what? Their captains are p2w. Just like the hero characters in every mobile game become p2w.

[hidden dune]

Now I'm trying to get him back in every way

[hidden dune]

the commanders will not be p2w, they are the tank's equipment

[frank berry]

Wait the commanders gonna be p2w? I thought there like an option or like cosmetic 😢

[pure shell]

Bruh you didn’t even play any battles in most of them. Beware VRT might be leaving so be careful.

[pure shell]

My spall liner with help me. 🙂

[hidden dune]

The problem is that Blitz is not a mobile game, it is currently focused on Steam and PC, so much so that specific DLCs have arrived in the store

[cerulean ingot]

The commanders will be p2w, as in every other mobile game that has them, including from Blitz owner WarGaming. Of course they will be p2w. Heroes are always, always pay to win.

[viral burrow]

commanders are dumber then the tank ranks system they added and removing og crew voices is a hell no wg r y’all genuinely loco

[hidden dune]

You can only enter battle if you have commanders, there is no possibility of them being p2w, even because blitz is not a mobile game, but a multiplatform game

[cerulean ingot]

Dude. You can’t be a real person, right? Because you’re spouting nonsense that a blind man could see through in the dark.

[frank berry]

Lucky 👁️ I will get you soon enough

[hidden dune]

This game has been around for 10 years and has never been p2w, why would it be fair now?

[sterile finch]

that's simply not true. You can have regular and premium commanders? Just like how we have tech tree and premium tanks

[cerulean ingot]

Yes, yes, everyone will get free commanders. And some people will buy premium commanders. And eventually those premium commanders will be better commanders.

[slim basalt]

People who sell tier 10 what r u even gambling for at this point

[covert palm]

There is a chance they could end up releasing op commanders you have to buy but as wg has done a very good job avoiding "p2w" content in this game my hope is that they will continue to do the same with these 😅

[cerulean ingot]

Like guys this is obvious stuff. Have you never played any other mobile game that has heroes? It’s not usually or most of the time, heroes always, always become pay to win.

[left violet]

Good stuff

[cerulean ingot]

What tanks do you most enjoy playing in tier 7?

[hidden dune]

I don't doubt that there are collab leaders, for example, a Vtuber, a YouTuber or even a celebrity with specific skills, However, it would not be p2w because, just like we have in the current blitz, regardless of how good the tank is, it still depends on your team.

[covert palm]

There's also very little content in blitz that isn't obtainable by f2p users, I have a feeling commanders won't be much different!

[cerulean ingot]

What tier 7 tanks have the best win rates?

[covert palm]

I don't play tier 7 very much haha but probably a Dracula and comet!

[hidden dune]

But it's still the blitz, you can't do everything alone even with the best equipment with useless team

[cerulean ingot]

I remember Warships players saying something similar before captains arrived.

[left violet]

Having 30% more alpha would indeed be a very p2w thing, considering that others cant get that(rethorical)

[hidden dune]

annihilator, a free tank, smasher than

[cerulean ingot]

Free? Where can I get that on the tech tree? It must have been cheaper than other tanks in the auction too, right?

[dawn ruin]

is trading in the t8 ticket worth

[covert palm]

Like I said even very strong premiums are obtainable by f2p users... I don't think wg would completely lock commanders behind a paywall that you can only get from spending real money

[hidden dune]

wargaming give it for free 6 times in last y

[frigid wagon]

Good news everyone!

[cerulean ingot]

Really? I started playing last year and have over 7k battles. How did I miss it? I have every other quest tank.

[hidden dune]

It still depends entirely on your skill and not the tank.

[hidden dune]

wg give 3 smasher conteiner free in 1 event, u only need luck

[covert palm]

There are no p2w tanks or content in the game and it has been over 10 years, not sure why that would change now all of a sudden haha😅

[cerulean ingot]

Oh so there was a chance at getting it free. Are you a WG employee or just trolling, because you can’t be this obtuse.

[hidden dune]

other free tank, 150 wins in 6 days to get this tank

other OP free tank

[frank berry]

I think if he was a wg employee they would have a special role or som

[cerulean ingot]

Yes, I acquired many free tanks from events. WG is generous with them. That doesn’t change the fact that the heroes will be p2w. But that’s obvious to everyone who is honest I think.

[hidden dune]

It depends on your playing style

[crisp sleet]

Both stupidly broken OP tanks for losers to make themselves feed adequate

[hidden dune]

u cant be p2w in wot blitz XD

[left violet]

See how the more battles you play, the lower the winrate gets?

[hidden dune]

say 1 broken tank

[hidden dune]

61% wr in 170 battles is low ?

[cerulean ingot]

LOL XD FR FR LOL

[left violet]

See where you just nitpick my words and lay them out to suit your argument?

[hidden dune]

say how u can be p2w in wot blitz ?

[hidden dune]

The logic is simple, you fight many battles, you lose battles, it becomes more difficult to climb the WR because of the large number of battles, it's simple

[limber pollen]

I got a bad feeling about this whole Commander Underpants thingy

[sterile finch]

the more accurate statement would be that your winrate normalizes to your skill level

[hidden dune]

or the teams you fall with

[sterile finch]

two players of the identical skill level, when placed in a op premium (smasher/annihilator/waffen 1.0), will perform better in comparison to a tech tree counterpart. how is that difficult to understand lol

[covert palm]

There are definitely op tanks in blitz haha, the difference tho is it is also tech trees and the op premiums aren't completely locked behind paywalls

[twin wyvern]

Yo

[hidden dune]

When I'm in Maus I can stay in the top dmg, unless they are in a platoon

[sterile finch]

Ofc if you're a skilled player in a tech tree tank, you can beat a newbie in a premium tank. You could place the best player in the world in a t1, and he won't beat the worst player in a t10. ofc this is an extreme example, but that's essentially what this op premium thing is

You have t8 premiums that have the stats of a t9, t7 that can hold their grounds against t8.

[hidden dune]

the vast majority of tier 10 premium tanks are garbage, only 3-4 are good

[zinc sky]

Man where am I gonna get 430k gold

[sterile finch]

ok? so what does that mean? what about all the other tiers?

[covert palm]

Except there's tech trees at every single tier that rival these premiums and there is also even more premiums that are mediocre/average haha

[sterile finch]

You could have a single op premium, and then 99 garbage ones. The game will still be pay to win.

[hidden dune]

stay the same, The only tier where premium tanks are better than line tanks is tier 9

[sterile finch]

Sigh... so the annihilator/smasher are all weak. Noted, I rest my case.

[hidden dune]

K91, Kpz70, Obj 452k, obj 752, line tanks: mauschen, T92, T95, T30

[covert palm]

Again, there are tech trees at every single tier at the same or higher level than these premiums, these premiums also are obtainable by f2p users...and most importantly skill comes first and foremost

[hidden dune]

smasher is other 'trash' tank, is just a kv2 in tier 7

[sterile finch]

yeah right...

[tacit panther]

lmao

[hidden dune]

annihilator is a simple 600dmg cannon in a tank, i have it, no have nothing special in this tank

[covert palm]

Also idk where you got waffen being "op and p2w" from haha

[cold grotto]

Hi kitty 🙂

[hidden dune]

u can do the same in tiger P but better, tiger P have armor

[left violet]

Its one of the worse collectors sadly

[hidden dune]

just common or trash tanks, have 2-3 good tanks

same in premium tanks

[sterile finch]

whatever you say man. Let's just agree to disagree

[covert palm]

Both smasher and anni are overpowered, but what this dude is neglecting to mention is that there are quite a few tech trees that can have a very similar impact, t29 is the best example, you could even make the case it's stronger than both due to it holding up better against t8s...

[cerulean ingot]

LOL nah, I am not sure I am intelligent enough to put it in terms you would understand xd

[short hatch]

hi

[hidden dune]

good tanks in tier 7

[hidden dune]

In short, it is impossible to be p2w in blitz, only if you bought your team and the entire enemy team

[hidden dune]

smasher dont have nothing OP XD, dont have cannon, armor, mobilit

[left violet]

640 alpha with a super good premium round and good gun stats isnt op?

[covert palm]

Uh yes it does haha😄 it has an extremely dangerous gun with good accuracy for the alpha

[hidden dune]

nop, only if u have 13s reload or -

[sterile finch]

they could just read the statistics, but who does that these days right. It's not like the smasher and annihilator are overperforming. https://blitzanalysiz.com/update/11.4/7/

[left violet]

Yk what has 13 secs of reload at that tier? A tank eith horrible gun stats and 240 alpha less

[minor wharf]

Варгейминг пидары, не движок новый делайте, а баланс игроков в команде, мне ваши сливы уже заебали, раков что деньги донатят берете, а как баланс, так хуй, зато движок новый захотели

[hidden dune]

therefore this tank is 6 times better than the smasher

[covert palm]

What?😃

[tacit panther]

WHAT THE ACTUAL

[north wind]

interesting garage

[hidden dune]

. . .

[quasi field]

U forgot mystery tank

[left violet]

They arent overperforming, neither are they p2w, its just that they are much stronger than other Tanks at the tier, bur are unable to hold themselves against t8

[sterile finch]

so you also didn't read it... wow, I'm impressed

[north wind]

this went very smoothly imo

[left violet]

No, you just dont understand whats written

[covert palm]

Those lists will also always favour premiums, tech trees still get played stock by people

[hidden dune]

better cannons ._>

[cerulean ingot]

everything is in absolutes and small improvements don’t make you much more likely to win? Again, I don’t believe you are discussing this honestly. I don’t think anyone who has played more than a few games in Blitz is this incapable of understanding the difference in small percentage improvements.

[sterile finch]

you just said yourself they are much stronger than other tanks at that tier... if they can't hold their ground against t8, the weakers one will do so better? What is even is your point. Genuinely baffled rn

[left violet]

@hidden dune whats the point of showing me some random british tanks with high raw dpm?

[stark rain]

Bro fear nothing

[zinc sky]

Which tank is better/ like more

me personally like the wz-112-2, I don't like the glacial capolas

[hidden dune]

It depends on you and the idi0ts who always fall for your team.

[blissful wind]

Crazy hangar

[hidden dune]

better tanks, better cannon, armor, and in just common tanks

[vivid kayak]

112-2 is definitely the better of the two

[jaunty night]

Nah fr 💀

[sterile finch]

The stats don't lie either, the average players has a higher winrate, deals more damage, get more kills in these tanks. And you're saying they **aren't **better than their tech tree counterparts?

[left violet]

Sry, my english isnt good enough to properly explain my point

[jaunty night]

😭

[halcyon python]

You just want to show your garage dont ya?

[hidden dune]

i want commanders

[vivid kayak]

Thighs xD

[hidden dune]

i want 3552hp in my maus

[left violet]

Not really lol

[blissful wind]

It would be crazy if we can mod the commander model

[halcyon python]

Cant even play now without lagging

[jaunty night]

Yo?

[hidden dune]

Wargaming didn't release mods but it makes total sense, it could be like this garage but a little more. . . . . . . . . . .

[vivid kayak]

Really based.

[blissful wind]

Maybe not in that direction too much

[sterile finch]

I get your what you mean, but it still doesn't make sense? Your point is (if I'm reading it correctly), that these premiums are not overperforming, since even though they are much more powerful than their tech tree counterparts, they still can't hold their own ground against tanks that are a tier higher. How does that change anything in the grand scheme of things?

[halcyon python]

Man of culture

[jaunty night]

Bruh ping needs Devine Intervention

[hidden dune]

playable

[jaunty night]

😭

[covert palm]

You do realise that average stats across the playerbase does not instantly equate to this tank = better as average stats will always mean towards tanks more noob friendly than others. In the case of smasher and anni they are indeed op, but again there are still tech trees at the same level as them strength wise..

[halcyon python]

Man i love this remodeling mod of batchat

[fathom urchin]

A half decent player in a T29 will cause them problems for sure

[hidden dune]

One thing is for sure, at tier 10, premium tanks are mostly trash, line tanks are better

[jaunty night]

Kamoflajj

[vestal sphinx]

I am NOT putting these gen z looking commanders on my tanks

[covert palm]

You have a few exceptions like e6 but generally yes tech trees are stronger at t10

[hidden dune]

vickers light

[halcyon python]

The only good prem tanks in tier 10 is c1b and 50t imo

[vestal sphinx]

Olivia looks like she was created solely to put a strong independent woman in the game

[prime moth]

this is... Concept 5

[hidden dune]

i like obj 268/4, amx m4 54

[sterile finch]

I hate to say this, but you're still wrong? The tank isn't just better in the hand of newbies. It's even stronger in the hand of experienced players. If you took the time to read the statistics... you'd know that these tanks are the only ones that have a higher relative winrate amongst them. An OP tank isn't just "beginner friendly", it's friendly to ANY player.

[blissful wind]

You do you

[olive falcon]

Well wotb is officially dead, congratulations wg on making the world worst trailer

[hidden dune]

yea

[halcyon python]

Buddy the update isn't released yet

[hidden dune]

Now look at the average status of all Anihillator players

[jaunty night]

He's premeditated it

[sterile finch]

there, cause you don't want to bother reading any statistics, I'll spoon feed it to you myself

[halcyon python]

My biggest flex is having UE57 and ke ni otsu in my garage

[blissful wind]

Do you have the M22 locust

[covert palm]

I quite literally already said these two are op but you're not actually reading what I'm saying, and that list is far too small to take any meaningful info from as there are only 3 tanks qualifying for it

And even then in the middle of both of them is a tech tree, which fits with what I've been saying this entire time (there are tech trees at the same level).....

[halcyon python]

I do but i sold i
I should have keep it

[hidden dune]

So uninstall the game, do you really think that the update that 80% of veteran players have waited for years will be stopped because people who only care about realism are saying they didn't like it?

[sterile finch]

Here the numbers, cause the graph does a poor job of illustrating the difference in wr.

[jaunty night]

Nobody reads nothing on this application g

[hidden dune]

chi to spg ? how

[hidden dune]

hellsing is other trash tank, with hellsing u only can camp

[sterile finch]

lower amount of players, therefore easier to skew the data.

[cerulean ingot]

No, see that’s not how comparisons work. To compare two items we eliminate these things called variables. Now, your team is a variable. That means it’s not part of the comparison. So the question becomes one of whether something directly improves your chances of winning. Now I don’t think you’re dumb, so I won’t explain to you why Annihilator and Smasher are considered to be overpowered for their tier by anyone with a couple of brain cells to run together. When someone says it’s overpowered, that means it objectively gives you a better chance of winning.

[jaunty night]

Bruh

[sterile finch]

there's a difference between personal opinion... and statistics. I don't like the hellsing either.

[wise zealot]

This exist

[hidden dune]

only camping, u cant do front line front line and mid line

[halcyon python]

Ain't no way we're getting a p2w set😭

[neon kayak]

genius

[jaunty night]

Are yall certain you aren't just bad at the game, because the hellsing is a good TD its just not front line you gotta use it like a light tank

[sterile finch]

??? These statistics are by taking the game results of essentially EVERY player? That argument holds no ground. The sample size is quite literally... the entire player base

[loud prairie]

mas mano, não foi falta de aviso pra não vender....

[hidden dune]

u cant use = a lighh tank

[dry matrix]

Guess why the dislike to like ratio, because we got features no one asked for and we got NONE of the features we did ask for! We wanted convergence, we wanted bigger mapd and we got... possibly even smaller normandy..

[jaunty night]

😐

[sterile finch]

I still perform well in it, I just don't enjoy that type of playstyle.

[loud prairie]

se nao recuperar até a nova att vai perder tudo isso ai, nao vai dar pra recuperar mais

[hidden dune]

voce avisou isso a 5 anos atraz ? ninguem fazia ideia sobre isso

[halcyon python]

The only thing i liked about the reforged update is the new physics tank sets

[hidden dune]

eu sei disso, me envia 300k de gold de presente ai, só foi avisado a coisa de 3 meses, em 3 meses eu só vendi tank lixo o resto ta guardado

[loud prairie]

o tanto de gente que falou sobre isso no youtube e nos clans, isso foi da att passada esse negocio dos valores

[left violet]

@sterile finch What I was trying to explain is that The smasher holds itself better when facing same or lower tiers, but just isnt as dominant at t8 since high alpha becomes much more common, while A T29 will be strong regardless in what tier it gets matched in. However I have kinda lost the over sight of the argument and my point probably just wasnt of any relevance

[cerulean ingot]

I hit reply to the other guy, not sure where it went. But yeah lots of bad players have bought Smasher and Anni thinking it was an I Win button. That’s definitely dragged the WR down.

[dry matrix]

Tank sets are fine, i like the fact thst you can get rewards besides grinding the lines.

[jaunty night]

Can't wait to see what souleater looks like after reforge to be honest with yall

[neon kayak]

there's people asking for a smaller normandy? i mean lowkey y'all deserve the update

[loud prairie]

nao, sobre a att eu mesmo fiquei sabendo agora, mas esse negocio do valor dobrar pra recuperar é antigo

[covert palm]

If you're going to talk about stats so much atleast don't cherrypick...

Stats don't lie right? So I guess tanks like at7 are better than smasher, gravedigger better than annihilator..

[hidden dune]

man olha a data de quando eu vendi os tanks, 2023, eu estou mantentdo meus tanks na garagem a 3 meses quando avisaram sobre o vrt, esse negocio de dobrar o valor veio a 6 meses +-

[narrow blaze]

From where you get this ss?

[wise zealot]

Iceberg

[blissful wind]

Looks like tiger 1 still standing in 3rd place

[loud prairie]

então nao era pra tu estar com esse valor ai, se vendeu antes da att era pra estar no valor antigo

[jaunty night]

english only, dont want yall to get muted

[dry matrix]

No one asked for smaller normandy. I just pointed out the fact that the border here is closer to the beach.

[cerulean ingot]

Wait, why did you say that and then show stats limited to one advanced segment of the player pool? Were you trying to be ironic?

[hidden dune]

i love tiger P but i only get trash teams

[narrow blaze]

What is that?

[jaunty night]

Tiger 1 betta

[loud prairie]

olhei a data, tu vendeu em 2024 mesmo, ai nao da pra defender

[frank berry]

Who’s we I wanted to see a tank flip since forever

[neon kayak]

oh god, this is actually brain degression

[hidden dune]

o negocio de dobrar o VRT veio a pouco tempo, coisa de 5 meses, nessa epoca n havia nada sobre o fim do VRT

[frank berry]

W update guys fr

[dry matrix]

They cooked on dead rail though

[hidden dune]

metade 2023 metade 2024

[loud prairie]

la ta constando 2024, no meio do ano ainda.ç

[neon kayak]

it doesn't even look that much better 😭

[dry matrix]

It looks cool because they gonna add snow physics

[hidden dune]

ainda não tinha o VRT dobrado, mês 4 de 2024 e o valor continua o de venda, é algo recente

[covert palm]

......the only segment of relative wr that smasher and anni are at the top is the one with only 3 tanks in it (smasher is in third) there's two other "segments" and smasher and anni are even lower in the list than the one I sent

[wise zealot]

Alpensdalt Canal

[dry matrix]

They should do a crew system like wot. Wot pc does have commanders but they are actually good.

[hidden dune]

,

[hexed coral]

please dont turn the game p2w

[prime moth]

it already is

[hidden dune]

i love this new canal XD

[sterile finch]

That's a fair argument. I can agree with that. But even then, a t7 was never meant to hold up that well against a t8 to begin with. Like, isn't that the whole reason we have tiers? I think the contrast is that when top tier, a smasher/annihilator bullies the lower tier ones far more comfortably. Think of it as a middle ground to our arguments

[covert palm]

Besides the 55-65% range is the most accurate if your goal is looking at relative wr

[dry matrix]

Alpenstadt would look good.. IF THAT STUPID SKYTRAIN DIDNT EXIST.

[jaunty night]

Its a monorail, looks cool

[tawny tinsel]

or pay to lose if u buy waffen

[hidden dune]

i see new 4 glitch spots

[loud prairie]

mas cara ai nao ta com o valor dobrado nessa ai, 1000 pra um tier 7 bicho.

[final field]

Всем ку

[slim wyvern]

[dry matrix]

Hell no it does not fit a OLD ahh Town

[jaunty night]

its not an old town anymore

[hidden dune]

aquele tier 8 o valor de venda é 1k e continua 1k, aquele tier 3 custa 1200 gold e está com 1200 gold

[narrow blaze]

Where do you guys get this kind of info

[dry matrix]

It literally has old buildings wdym.

[jaunty night]

Hey guys

[past shale]

Keep conversations in english, please.
@hidden dune @loud prairie

[hidden dune]

aquele é o preço do tank

[jaunty night]

With a giant ahh metor lying in that field

[dry matrix]

Russian server

[hexed coral]

if wotb becomes the new war robots im going to war thunder

[cerulean ingot]

But you’re familiar enough with the game to recognize that players in the top 5% or so (which is what the graph represents) are going to be able to exploit tanks that are weak in anyone else’s hands? Right? Bourrasque for example is pretty mid in the hands of 90%+ of Blitz players, it’s nearly broken when a top 5% player gets it.

This is back to that variables point.

[jaunty night]

Official server language is English. Using other languages in public channels is unacceptable.

[hidden dune]

idk if NAK know english, he is only talking in portugues ._.

[dry matrix]

Just move to lesta lesta wouldnt ever do something like this

[hexed coral]

?

[hidden dune]

@loud prairie tu fala inglês ?

[dry matrix]

Lesta is a game made from the remains of wargaming st. Petersburg

[jaunty night]

I cant use lesta, I live in the us so id probably get in trouble

[frigid wagon]

Ew.

[drifting venture]

Lesta > wg

[hidden dune]

i asked if he knows English now

[dry matrix]

Not gonna lie, changing 183 into alligator was THE BEST DECISION lesta ever made

[frigid wagon]

Delusional.

[jaunty night]

I was just trying to warn you before the mods step in.

[drifting venture]

I’m delusional? Do you remember when wg said MOE is impossible? Yeah well lesta added it for every t9 and 10 :)

[hidden dune]

ik

[dry matrix]

183 does NOT even fit its line. Its literally a ugly duck in a horde of swans

[covert palm]

......which is why I said the 55-65% range is the most accurate if your goal is looking at relative wr, the one higher up has too small of a sample size. And like I've been saying this entire time, there are tech trees on the same level as anni and smasher, which is also backed up by these statistics, if the game was truly p2w that wouldn't be the case

[hidden dune]

Lesta is the base of wot blitz = lesta > wg

[wise zealot]

No?Sure maybe ping issues but lesta still allow you to download

[dry matrix]

Lesta is more of a playground for wg. They test their new tanks there

[frigid wagon]

Mhm. Sure.

[hidden dune]

the tortoise line is to the Badger, 183 is a premium tank

[drifting venture]

I agree

[dry matrix]

Nah aligator, badger can stay as a premoum. All i want is 183 removed from the tech tree and replaced by something that fits the line

[cerulean ingot]

I give up. I have led the horse to water but he doesn’t know how to drink.

[prime moth]

godamnit I didnt get picked (again)

[paper drum]

for what

[prime moth]

testing? I didnt recieve emai, yet so I was assuming

[hidden dune]

...

[paper drum]

they don’t select for ultra test until 23 January at the earliest

[runic pawn]

^^^^

[prime moth]

and uh how do ppl get the green role

[covert palm]

I am quite literally in the top 5% of players, heck I'm in the top 1%, I'm pretty sure I know which tanks benefit a ton from higher skill level players using them.

[paper drum]

#📖how-to-chat-here has the info

[sterile finch]

is that... a yamato with a union jack camo 😭 veri disonoburu

[wise zealot]

They did what WG can't do

[undone herald]

.

[tawny tinsel]

badger lookin

[jaunty night]

💀

[dry matrix]

That is the perfect line from tortoise. 183 does not even fit its line.

[paper drum]

replace 183 with the wt auf e100

[hidden dune]

ugly

[dry matrix]

Where t f are you gonna get a british wt auf from lmao

[hidden dune]

WT is german XD

[paper drum]

give it the tea and pudding provision

automatically british

innit

[pine cloak]

racist! racist!

[past shale]

Give the WT a 183mm autoloader gun xD

[cold grotto]

fish nd chipsssssss

[paper drum]

oi mate you got a loisonce for dat spOoOn

[normal light]

I like how the Waffen is just gonna be a tier 7 in the new update

[paper drum]

(I am british before anyone asks)

[dry matrix]

A good way to improve tortoise line is remove 183, make it either an fun mode only tank or just move it to another line and replace it by alligator

[deft basin]

pre sure that's what the British food is on PC lmao

[cold grotto]

alr hear me out
You eat porridge with a spoon, but what if you eat a spoon with a porridge?

I'm coming ur house Brit boi

[paper drum]

what if instead of tanks shooting shells

we had shells shooting tanks

[dry matrix]

183 could be a subline from conway

[cold grotto]

this alr happens lol

[paper drum]

if your tank could fire one other tank as a shell

what do you choose

[jaunty night]

Can you help me understand why you want the 183 removed or revamped completely, it's like saying the Jg Pz E 100 doesn't match the panzer line, it's a Tier 10

[cold grotto]

maus

[deft basin]

😏

[past shale]

Maus as shell with 1Km/h velocity🤔

[paper drum]

183 has always been an outlier for the entire history its been in this game

it plays nothing like its line

[cold grotto]

use supercharger

[dry matrix]

Bro. Its literally a ugly duck in a horde of swans. 183 would fit conway line more, just make it a subline next to 4005

[paper drum]

Badger and even Turtle play way better into the line, but wg chose to sell them and not replace 183

so here we are

[cold grotto]

vk90 tech tree :c

[echo knoll]

this goes insanely hard

[dry matrix]

They should do something like what they did with t54. You got a choice to either pick 183 or 4005 from conway

[deft basin]

so tortoise goes into 183 right?

[paper drum]

but ig it doesnt matter anymore if these changes with sets go through

[cold grotto]

idk what this is still

[paper drum]

yea

[deft basin]

this just makes so much more sense for tech tree

[jaunty night]

So what will you do with the people who already own both tanks and maxed out the tech trees

[paper drum]

yeah it does

[trim cedar]

Hi

[frigid wagon]

Hi there!

[paper drum]

but unfortunately when they revealed the badger then subsequently revealed it as a paid tank

[dry matrix]

No idea just move 183 and make us grind alligator

[paper drum]

meh

[pine cloak]

is the testers list released already?

[deft basin]

Tortoise should simply never go into a 183 lmao

[cerulean ingot]

I have no doubt that your tanking skills are legendary, but you seem unable piece together why a tank might be significantly overpowered for the lesser 95 or 99% and not for this Adonises and Achilles of the mobile armored field of battle like yourself.

[dry matrix]

Im pretty sure most people skipped 183 line anyway

[hidden dune]

GUYS

[dry matrix]

Remember that lesta is a playground for wg. There is a chance we might get alligator.

[paper drum]

yeah it shouldnt, the 183 line came into blitz around 2016

unfortunate they chose 183 over badger for the researchable line

[deft basin]

So was badger always a collector tank on blitz?

[violet radish]

I wonder what will become of the 183 itself. It's a uh... it's a tank. yes. it's a tank.

[paper drum]

Yes

[dry matrix]

Yes

[paper drum]

badger was released like what

5 years ago?

[wise zealot]

But we never got this

[paper drum]

as a paid tank

[deft basin]

Badger plays like literally every tank in the line from t5-10 lmao

[pine cloak]

thank WG. u don't want that

[dry matrix]

Im pretty sure the german tier 9 light replaced that

[violet radish]

Lesta has so much more new tanks in it that I don't think they're related at all anymore. Lesta Blitz is more like... a private server run off of WotB's DAVA Engine. Similar to how WoW servers work half the time for streamers.

[paper drum]

wild

[deft basin]

Lesta blitz is basically a mini WoT PC

[jaunty night]

What are you collecting for lol

[dry matrix]

Why didnt they just make alligator back then?? It eould fit 183 line way more

[deft basin]

Rockets on chinese heavies, tanks that PC has but not rest of blitz etc

[covert palm]

Yeah you're right look at how significantly overpowered the smasher and annihilator is in the hands of the rest of the community

[left violet]

I started today, just because I wanna 3mark some t10

[hidden dune]

nothing

[deft basin]

EU PC?

[paper drum]

I’m getting a PC this year and playing wot pc, but not looking forward to not having any crews, equipment, bonds or whatever

I will be a silly noob

[left violet]

Im an eu player on android

[wise zealot]

Let me guess
1.This was before the split,wg might have the tank model hidden somewhere in the wotPC file
Or 2.The tank was only created after the split

[dry matrix]

How can 0-45%ers do so well in a skillbased tank like progetto??

[deft basin]

You said 3mark 10s, does blitz lesta even have that?

[covert palm]

You still have provided me with absolutely nothing substantial as to what is p2w in this game haha, I don't think the "trust me bro" source is enough 😅😄

[dry matrix]

I mean you do have armor, but its still definently not enough

[left violet]

I just have my account sitting there, collecting the bonds every year and chilling

@deft basin yea lesta has gunmarks, another point the blitz players are upset about because wg said it wasnt possible with the current engine

[pine cloak]

explain Dracula battles lol

[calm elk]

Look at the video

[covert palm]

That's the semevonte! Tier 7 tank destroyer in the mino line which is very easy to use. (these lists favour noob friendly tanks)

[dry matrix]

Oh that didnt see the full name

[paper drum]

for curiousity

[deft basin]

Ahh fair, MoE is what's kept me playing PC the last few years tbh. Slowly picking off tier 10s by nation

[dry matrix]

Ping issues?

A lot of players recently complained about having 40-50% loss

[loud prairie]

Did u like? https://youtu.be/4mq6RDdE_tU?feature=shared

[dry matrix]

No i disliked just like anyone with a working brain

[wise zealot]

If they add char to WG,they will nerf it to ground

[iron cloud]

I mean, accept him to be in Ferrari team

[dry matrix]

We got features no one asked for. Yet we got no features that everyone asked for like convergence or obligations

[deft basin]

Char mle isn't even good in the hands of like 90%+ of players as is

[left violet]

But ngl, thid thing on lesta just looks like a worse badger, I dont get why this thinf exists

[paper drum]

reminds me of the t28 htc a little

with the gun area how it looks

[left violet]

Yea

[deft basin]

the HTC 💀

[paper drum]

what did I say it wrong lol

Im surprised I remembered that random tier 7 td

[dry matrix]

Smaller downer plate

[wise zealot]

PC Alligator has -10 gd
Don't know why tb only has -6

[deft basin]

Nah it's just horrendously bad

[paper drum]

I havent seen one in battle in ages come to think of it

its an old tank

[dry matrix]

Wait what?? Outside of lesta???

[deft basin]

You can only get T28 HTC from the campaign missions, it's in the 260 campaign

[paper drum]

no the t28 htc lol

[deft basin]

Excalibur, t28 htc, t-55a, obj 260 are the 4 tanks from those missions

[paper drum]

its an arty in wot pc

what

[left violet]

T28 htc isnt an arty, is it? Thought it was a td

[dry matrix]

Frick mb mb mistaken it with another tank

[dense crater]

no?

[paper drum]

I also saw a wot pc video today, is the 114 sp a td in pc

the chinese high tier

[frigid wagon]

Yes. A meh one.

[paper drum]

whatever its called

[short hatch]

hi

[deft basin]

Yes, it was from ranked

[paper drum]

but its a heavy in blitz?

[jaunty night]

Hi fellas

[paper drum]

interesting

[frigid wagon]

Hi there!

[deft basin]

114 sp2 is also one of the worst t10 TDs on PC imo

[dry matrix]

The armor profile looks pretty good to me tho, better than badger imo

[jaunty night]

How ru

[frigid wagon]

Yup. What a horrible reward.

[echo knoll]

we would be so cooked

[deft basin]

stopped playing the game for a week after this btw 😭

[covert palm]

It's not amazing in blitz haha but it's not bad either just an alright heavy

[pallid junco]

I want marks of excellence in blitz tbh

[frigid wagon]

Doing good. How about you?

[worldly rivet]

I'm quite confused rn shop is selling those tokens but there isn't a single thing in the shop that you can buy with the tokens

[echo knoll]

when the mod skins are better than the ingame skins:

[jaunty night]

Just chilling out

[deft basin]

If Blitz adds MoE, and then adds camos that changes their look it'll be yugee W

[pallid junco]

I use the same mode for my kran, it’s a recoloured port from pc

[paper drum]

the skins I see on PC look so good

[dry matrix]

Its a TD??? so thats why it looks like an SPG when you turn the turret back

[frigid wagon]

That's good to hear.

[echo knoll]

god it looks so good

[deft basin]

TMNT battle pass skin for TVP gives pizza slice marks

[wise zealot]

Other blitz does have MoE

[frigid wagon]

Especially the 3D ones. Just marvelous!

[pallid junco]

I have mods dowloaded so I use the pc skins on blitz tanks, the blitz skins are so bad

[paper drum]

you mean you dont love the t62a lollipop camo??

wow

[vapid yacht]

Is the XM66F worth 22.5K gold?

[hidden dune]

15k- i need 300k

[dry matrix]

Lesta?

[pallid junco]

I sold the cert for splinters, whoever cooked to make xeno needs to be fired

[paper drum]

dude the jadgpanzer, badger and maus have such cool skin sets

makes me jealous

[deft basin]

some of the 3Ds are mid but most go pretty hard

[cerulean ingot]

Let’s define p2w first. You are top 1%. I suspect that all other things being equal, you would beat a 40%er (the average player) at least 7 times out of 10 if they had any tier 7 and you had the tier 6 of the same line. Does that seem right to you?

[dry matrix]

Imo no. The shop is absolute garbage right now, war gaming ruined the shop with gambling

[vapid yacht]

KK that's what I thought

[hidden dune]

p2w, u pay to get special itens to win battles

[civic hawk]

Dont you ever disrespect gambling again!

[pallid junco]

Pay to win is paying to have an advantage over other players in battle, for example buying free xp is not pay to win its pay to progress

[deft basin]

I think I'd have to agree with you @paper drum (feel free to remove this spam - sry in advance)

[dry matrix]

bruh crates are NOT worth it especially CEA

[civic hawk]

What is CEA bruh

[dry matrix]

Collect E'm All

[glossy copper]

Collect them alls

[cerulean ingot]

This is the definition I would use but I thought I and the others might be talking past each other.

[bright whale]

P2w commanders, sbmm, no global chat, bruh

[silent raven]

Forest Witch is surprisingly high up the list considering the gameplay is pretty meh compared to Smasher or Annihilator

[civic hawk]

Ahh ofc, nah, CEA okay imo, once got two tanks in a row from them

[pallid junco]

Is the discourse about if blitz is pay to win or not?

[dry matrix]

I wish spezialset had that gyroscope or light, whatever it is on jg in blitz

[paper drum]

blitz isnt pay to win, its pay to suffer

[left violet]

It has the ability to control the battlefield well eith the 3 shells, wich reload individually

[pallid junco]

I don’t think it’s pay to win either

[dry matrix]

Some tanks like waffen are pay to lose so yeah

[vivid kayak]

Nah I am free to suffer

[cerulean ingot]

It started as talking about whether commanders would be p2w. Then got sidetracked onto whether Smasher and Anni give people an advantage.

[deft basin]

the larger part in back?

[silent raven]

it never felt it's that strong when playing but that does explain why i win more with it

[dry matrix]

Yep that. It would make the mighty camo look much better imo

[pallid junco]

I think it’s inevitable that commanders will become pay to win, I don’t think anni and smasher give an advantage, there are plenty of strong t7 tech trees

[deft basin]

Jgpz actually has 2 different 3D styles on PC and I got both

[paper drum]

the amount of money people spent to gamble for the wt and didnt get it is diabolical

wg knew what they were doing ir putting it in some crazy gamble event considering its a highly notable tank and they knew people would want it bad

[pallid junco]

I already knew waffen was gonna be garbage so I didn’t waste my money

[dry matrix]

Second one

[covert palm]

P2w is extremely easy to define, (gaining an unfair advantage in battle from spending money) simple enough to me.

[paper drum]

every waffen I have seen has been a damage piñata

[deft basin]

Yeah that one is not as cool imo

[pallid junco]

They are too fat and lightly armoured

[dry matrix]

I dont like the weird looking textures

[deft basin]

FochB and T57 are my favorite 3D styles simply because the face on them

[ashen relic]

Yes

[pallid junco]

Does the concept 1b have a cool 3d style on pc?

[paper drum]

one day wargaming will add japanese superheavies and I will roll around

[echo knoll]

@pallid junco hey i have a question that i need to dm u, pls accept friend req

[kindred crescent]

Why is the game becoming a monkey exhibit

There's at least 5 monkeys and 2 decent / good enough player per team

And then the enemy gets 59-60% wr ?

Bro why are the orangutans going to the team

[deft basin]

Concept 1b is a tier 9 on PC and you can only get the customized camos from ranked modes I believe

[dry matrix]

This 3d style for 4005 looks cool aswell

[paper drum]

reading this message and then seeing that someone called ‘TheBigGorilla’ is typing way too funny to me

[glass girder]

Because you’re the one who has to carry them

[cerulean ingot]

Okay. So if I can buy a commander who gives me 5% better dpm or pen than any “tech tree” type of grindable commander, it’s p2w? Even if it’s me that has the premium commander and you still destroy me regularly with a free commander?

[frigid wagon]

AMX 13 105 style is awesome.

[deft basin]

@pallid junco the style goes HARD but it cost bonds

[kindred crescent]

I don't even consider myself as a good player

But looking at these apes makes me feel way too smart bro

[glass girder]

Relatable

[deft basin]

check out T57, wont be disappointed LOL

[dry matrix]

My favorite personally is either the kv 2 style or the strv 103c desert one

[next veldt]

Großer Sieegg!!

[dry matrix]

That ones nice aswell

[cerulean ingot]

This cracked me up

[tardy willow]

Is wot blitz server down - cant log in - been trying last 90 minutes

[vocal nymph]

real collabs not anime stuff

[deft basin]

Udes 15/16 may have one of the cleanest looking 3D styles in the whole game tho

[grizzled warren]

Yes but M103M isn't obtainable for free

[deft basin]

blitz better get this tank fr

[vocal nymph]

still better collab

[frigid wagon]

Not for the EU. Playing the game right now.

[sage wind]

@deft basin hows that coffee sir?

[deft basin]

ah rip my mug is under the keurig smh

[prime moth]

they have the character woice and commander on tank instead of just avatar and background ofc its better bruh

[sage wind]

also yes

[tardy willow]

Thanks - will try agin may be serveroverload - have a nice weekend :-))

[covert palm]

What does this have to do with smasher and annihilator? Regardless commanders aren't even in the game yet and this is all speculation, no one knows including you what Wgs plans for commanders are going forward, especially dealing with "premium" commanders. I already said I do agree there is a chance commanders do become p2w, whether on purpose or not it may happen. But over the course of 10 years the game has managed to steer clear of "p2w" content, and personally I seriously doubt commanders will be completely unobtainable to f2p users (real money only)

[frigid wagon]

Wishing the same for you!

[vocal nymph]

and rambo does not cause 50% more damagde and 20% more fire rate

[deft basin]

what in the MoE edit did they try to do in this pic LOL

[paper drum]

I hope the reforged update means that the Skorpion G lockbox that has been stuck on a 0 second timer in my storage since 2019 will be removed

[frigid wagon]

This is not an edit. 3 marked German vehicle, what's wrong?

[vocal nymph]

or useless parts that they kept in my storage

[fallow pendant]

Same I’ve had that container in my storage for years

[cerulean ingot]

I may have replied to you instead of the other guy who was saying that nothing could make Blitz p2w because you’re on a team. But yes, I am confident the commanders will become p2w by the definition that you gave, because they do in every mobile game.

[outer zealot]

imma be honest i really dont know about the tech tree changes, and the commanders dude. from an outside point of view and a buisiness pov it might be good, but player wise its not gonna go well.

[covert palm]

I kind of like having some of the old random useless items in my storage haha 😅 like the kpz 70 charms when it was first released!

[frigid wagon]

I have a "Glyph Booster" from "Hunter's Moon event". I don't even remember it.

[paper drum]

if you remember the IS-2 berlin event from a few years ago, I still have the containers for that

[deft basin]

german marks are on the very end of the barrel, not only did they crop it but they enlarged the picture

[grizzled warren]

This look similar to console

[frigid wagon]

Ah, right.

[deft basin]

If this is all you see of the gun you wouldn't see the marks

[paper drum]

I think the oldest thing I have in my garage are certificates for the ladder attachment for specific tanks

they have been in my storage since like 2018

ladders was like the first attachment

[deft basin]

German marks in general are weird because they're so dang tiny

[covert palm]

In majority of mobile games paid content in general becomes p2w, or paying gives a clear advantage over everyone else, which like I said has not happened in this game for over 10 years, I do not think it is really that far fetched to make the same claim that "premium" commanders will be not much different from premium tanks (some may be very strong but still comparable to free ones and most average)

[frigid wagon]

I like my 3-marked Sturer.

[deft basin]

looks like a thumbnail from a WoT replays YT channel but I've never seen a picture be edited that poorly (ig they wanted to ensure 3marks were in it)

[pallid junco]

What are the chances we get a hatsune miku commander if commanders go through 😂

[frigid wagon]

Why can't we like messages from other people. One of the best features introduced to social media and we don't have it.

[deft basin]

ngl idek what that is, unless you meant the Steyr prem

[pallid junco]

Emil t7 td I’d guess

[deft basin]

ohh the St.Emil? that looks like a box

[honest jasper]

GuP girls as anime as it is
Makes more sense than adding Hatsune Miku

[serene barn]

Steyr WT?

[frigid wagon]

This gun is beautiful. 5000+ battles on it, what a brilliant vehicle.

[pallid junco]

I’m just poking fun that the maps look like Fortnite now

[covert palm]

The kpz 70 charms might be the oldest in mine haha not sure since that was released in like 2017..

[frigid wagon]

Yup.

[pallid junco]

If we were to get anime girl commanders they would be from gup or some mecha most likely as that makes the most sense for a tank game

[honest jasper]

Lets just hope that the commanders wont do a fornite-ish dance lmao

[deft basin]

It's either St. Emil(tech tree) or Steyr (premium) but 5k+ games in it is wild 😭

[paper drum]

wargaming should add emotes to the game

[frigid wagon]

Account created either in 2010 or in 2011, so it's alright. Can't remember now.

[deft basin]

I'll give you respect though, most bots with thousands of games in <t8 tanks never mark it. No judgment here

[bright whale]

Wohoo p2w commanders, and no global chat