tank-balance-discussion

[obtuse rover]

well yup xd

[deft echo]

oh my god why is a heavy tank have a camo net

[dapper zenith]

lol didnt even notice that

[paper dust]

“Buff the Jageroo” that thing is beet red with the STB lmao

[mild parrot]

Meds struggle with it frontally. That’s normal. Load prammo or move to shoot it in such a manner that it’s not staring you down.

Also. If you ain’t firing prammo in the STB then you playing it wrong

[paper dust]

That last note is just wrong for very obvious reasons

[mild parrot]

Oh yeah. Play the med with basically no alpha loss on its prammo and just dont make use of it.

It’s got basically the best med prammo in the game. Sure, lets just not use it.

[paper dust]

I only don’t use it often because I don’t always have to. And it’s expensive.

[fickle tinsel]

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[primal yacht]

✅ reejjyd_i10132_98243 was banned.

[velvet cove]

Gravitrap needs a nerf. Nerf the radius, and have a hard cap on how many gravitraps a team can have at a time

Not sure if this is the channel for giving feedback to devs. But gravitrap is the only thing that ruins big boss mode

[midnight rapids]

Gravitytrap is the only thing that is fun, i don't think it needs nerf

[paper dust]

STB needs a slight armor buff.

[mild parrot]

Everything else sucks because gravitrap exists.

[haughty vault]

tvp is basically on par with lights on mobility and one of the quickest meds

[grave vault]

Y'all I think it's time BZ-176 gets the 800 AP single shot.

[steel shell]

Still wont save you from that HE

Plus most light tanks still have armor kinda more than the TVP

[paper dust]

The TVP has 95mm front hull and 145 front turret wdym

[steel shell]

It still cannot stop derps (literally 90% of tanks you get in round), and im pretty sure they wont be staying in one place

[tranquil raft]

Devs please add reticle calibration for the whole 4005 tree please

[paper dust]

This would be so aids gng 🥀🥀🥀

[tranquil raft]

Why gng why
Everything is so mid there gng
4005 already has reti cali gng 🥀

[tranquil raft]

We already have reti cali for 4005
Devs just didn't for some reason give the whole line it

[paper dust]

For a good reason

[terse cairn]

It is fun but there should be a limit of the number of graviton in each team. I remember our team was permanently trapped cuz the enemy had only graviton. There is almost nothing you can do in that situation unless you die

[tranquil raft]

Have you played the challenger recently
It is soooo inaccurate
You cant hit shi at 100m

[paper dust]

✨Refined Gun✨

[viral portal]

Wotb INVITE CODE?plz🥺

[undone smelt]

Not rly. 2 healers can ruin any attempt to win. Just because u can't kill no1. Or catalyst? That dmg output is insane in right hands. And bombers can finish any1 in few seconds. So it all revolves around each other. Gravytrap is counter to lategame standing with healers.

[mild parrot]

gravitrap does it very poorly and in the worst way is the thing.
being stuck to a wall sure counters heal spam, but it's also the most fun killing thing in the entire game.

if grav was reworked to fully shutdown a targets abilites for X amount of time it'd be much more fair and still act as the counter to heal spam. (as an example)

[tranquil raft]

I have no time to grind 67 bajjilion credits to put equipment in shi tanks

[paper dust]

Skill issue then

[wicked quest]

Then problem is WG refuses to make roles patterned rather than keep it as random

It’s why whole teams can spawn as 5-6 gravitons due to random chance if it were a pattern it lowers that chance for there to be so many

[clear shuttle]

graviton can be far more deadly on certain maps, but a majority choose to put a black hole in either useless places or on the ground

[burnt venture]

If there was a set pattern it would be way worse as everyone would continuously destroy themselves to gain a role they want

[wicked quest]

You can make the argument more skilled players will definitely do this, but with the average idiot outnumbering them in pubs and not knowing how to use any of the abilities anyways it’s moot

[burnt venture]

That also helps platoons way more as double or triple gravity is where it is at, so they can easily get that by dying instead of trying to get it via chance

[eager acorn]

t57 heavy is so OP holy

[grave torrent]

Do wg have plans to nerf 116f3? I want to sell all of my 3 t10 collectors to buy it from the draw.
Is it cheaper than 22550 (price for 19/19 tries to draw the tank) worth of gold when it's available in store offer and is it even a good financial decision?

For 14 tries it costs 7200 gold (T10 tank without 300 gold)

But there is still no chance to get the tank and most likely i will get following items:
150k credits x3
tankxpboost x2
creditboost x2
freexpboost x2
X3xpboost x3
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And that is already 14 tries with 0 luck and getting all the garbage

17 tries costs 13300 gold so 2 T10 tanks ± some gold

And considering that I won't get lucky enough to get the tank I'll have one black box 1 and two mystery boxes 1

There are still two times to draw left for camouflage and 116f3

And if decided to continue I could sell my last T10 collector for last 2 tries

Is it a bad decision or it just looking so bad when on paper because of the tank itself. Is it going to pay off if WG don't plan to nerf 116f3 in the future

What are the odds of getting a little bit of luck and getting the 116f3 at try 14 so I don't end up selling remaining 2 of my T10 collectors

And I know my messages don't suit the channel and should be on #general-blitz-discussion but it all comes up to question if WG want to nerf 116f3 in the future

[red haven]

Why would you sell your tier tens to get another tier ten? Can’t find the logic in that.
Anyways I have gold, is 116 f3 worth 22,300 gold?

[cinder shard]

Overpriced in my eyes. The tank isn't that bad, but I find it quite boring to play tbh.

[red haven]

I have 25000 gold and I have been itching for an opportunity to spend them

[grave vault]

Keep it for the BZT-70 event. (It won't be obtainable for gold.)

[cinder shard]

I'd just keep it for some better offers tbh

Maybe we'll see some at the start of next year or a bit later

At least that's what I'm hoping. I've been sitting on my gold for some time now without any interesting stuff to spend it on. =/

[grave vault]

Man if WT auf. E 100 event is like this.

I don't even WANT to know what type of gambling system they'll come out with the BZT-70. 🙏

[cinder shard]

Tbf I think the Waffen will be kept as exclusive 'paywalled' tank alongside the Phase 1

[red haven]

I should keep my gold for a tank that wont be obtainable by gold?

[cinder shard]

Which I absolutely hate

[grave vault]

Yes.

But for all seriousness, keep your gold for the tanks you really want.

For example, I kept my 40k gold for K-91 and T28 HTC.

[grave vault]

BZT-70 will also be in that situation. I bet.

[cinder shard]

The tanks from the Lunar New-Year or Black Friday-type of events always return at a reasonable price or in simple crates after some time
(This is assuming that it will be in such an event of course)

[grave vault]

We're talking about wg Broken.

They don't care about their rules. They can just not want to add the BZT-70 into the lootboxes after the event. So we got'ta be ready for everything.

[cinder shard]

I really hope that the exclusivity of certain tanks like the Waffen is reduced sometime soon...
But tbh, looking at the past year my faith in the people who create these events has just vanished =(

[red haven]

So in that case sdp wz 66 grom and lion. Those are the only two collector tanks I really want. The rest is impulse purchase

[grave vault]

I'm just hoping it won't be like "Black Box" system for the BZT-70.

Where we have to start from box tier 1 and go all the way to box tier 10. 🥀

[red haven]

It kinda should be for the matchmakings sake. A 183 under reliable heavy armor sounds like doom

[grave vault]

Really hard chance of getting them.

Those two are never sold before for gold. But, still, try your luck.

[grave vault]

WoT version of the BZT-70 deals 850 while our Blitz version deals 910. 💔✌️

Then wait, if they don't nerf the BZT-70 to the ground, I want my WZ-114 to deal 530 like WoT's.

[red haven]

Wz114 will be a bully for tier 8 when it gets 2550 hp on next patch. It already currently has more hp than something like a Kran

[mild parrot]

Good pen.
Horrible shell velocity. Which means something in PC. Shell velocity doesnt do crap in blitz.

Workable armour but two massive cupolas that anyone with decent accuracy can hit

[undone smelt]

Yeah, try out ATAC or caliban

[mild parrot]

ok. with the exception of tanks with absurdly bad shell velocity.

bad shell velo is one thing, those two have absurdly bad shell velo

but to be fair. with both you cannot fight at range, the bad shell velo is a massive deterrent for attempting to camp in it

[undone smelt]

Thats the point, u cant camp with that
Or u have to be a magician to play at distance

[waxen geode]

Is the Skoda T 45 better than VZ 44-1?

[simple trellis]

Yeah it’s that spot

[lofty crystal]

yo what tank is good?

[paper dust]

The humble Churchill Mk. VIII

[deft echo]

day 52 of asking to buff e10 alpha to 430 to mimic the stock gun like the e100, buff the turret armor in exchange for the turn rate, buff hull armor and hull traverse rate

day 45 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha to 175 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least 10 degrees gun depression, give the upper plate a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 20 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 330 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 6 of asking to give TL-7-120 gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[scarlet karma]

Can KV-1 get its 122mm U-11 gun HE penetration buffed from 30 to 55? this will make using the 122mm gun a bit more enjoyable as it has a 20 second reload and players want its HE shells to count.

[paper dust]

50mm of HE pen at Tier 5 with 430 damage would be ridiculously OP

There are many tanks in t5/4 with less than 50mm of armor in some places

[little bear]

@waxen geode yup

[heady dawn]

Well the Gargoyle has 53mm of pen with 410 alpha

On a much more mobile platform no less with over 700 more dpm much better accuracy and actual AP rounds

[scarlet karma]

Gargoyle has much better accuracy + aim time, kv-1 U-11 has ~5 seconds of aim time and is slow. Gargoyle has 410 alpha for 12 seconds reload while kv has 430 for 20. Playing the Gargoyle is wheeling it into position, stopping for 1 second to aim and the enemy tank loses ~400 hp. kv-1 is much different

[heady dawn]

Literally what I just said

[low pecan]

is the jgpz e100 even worth it anymore?
Bring back it's tungsten, the tier 9 gets tungsten, why should it not get it aswell?
It's got inconsistent damage (I get 663-880 normally), and the long reload also fries it, Object 268 deals 770 DMG with 640 alpha.. then why should 800 alpha deal 663 but rarely 990 unlike 268?
Congrats WG, you've just made a garbage tank even more garbage..

[paper dust]

I’m telling y’all it doesn’t need a buff

[low pecan]

I'm not asking for a buff.. just need it's tungsten back

[paper dust]

Might just be me, but that tank is so aids to play against. It’s a heavily armored 183 with slightly less damage. And Tungsten rounds would make it even less fun to play against.

It’s already doing almost 1k per shot what do you need Tungsten for 🥀🥀🥀

[low pecan]

I have it and that tank destroyed my 60 wr to 50.. and I still get 2500 DMG average on that tank

[low pecan]

And the jageroo had tungsten before, and it was still the worst performing TD in tier 10

[paper dust]

All it needs is better RNG then

[low pecan]

That would include making the alpha higher💔⁉️⁉️

[paper dust]

No. Just make the damage more consistent. Has nothing to do with base damage values afaik.

[low pecan]

to truly give it less rng (random number generator) is to rig it into having higher percentages of a specified field of numbers into becoming more likely, which is not how the rng works in this game, and to make the damage more consistent you'd reduce the 660-900 avg to 700-900 which would result in higher alpha (average damage)

[paper dust]

Ohhh

[prisma jetty]

Jageroo definitely isn’t the worst performing tier 10 td, nor was it when it still had tungsten lol

[low pecan]

I'm my experience it's absolutely garbage

[paper dust]

It has really bad players tho :p

[prisma jetty]

That’s no excuse to lie about the jageroo’s overall performance

[low pecan]

I searched the wr on blitzkit, 5th worst performing TD, sorry, but it's avg WR is 49.3%🤷

[dapper zenith]

jagaroo was at its best last year , it was getting insane results, its just normal now

[paper dust]

WR doesn’t necessarily mean the tank is bad

It could be that the matchmaking puts it on bad teams (and player count definitely makes a difference)

[low pecan]

how am I just knowing this now🧐

[paper dust]

Day ??? Of asking for the STB-1 to get a slight armor buff

[dapper zenith]

i was loving it and the fact that it was appearing about 5 times a week on youtube blitz best replays

[dapper zenith]

dont you remember when it was a ridgeline monster before its nerf

[paper dust]

I only got it a couple months ago so no

[low pecan]

Still think it needs it's tungsten back
Or improved engine boost the thing is so slow as opposed to a 268, object 268/4, wz113gft, and t110e3

[dapper zenith]

it was dominating so they took some out of it

[paper dust]

Improving the speed of a tank with a 170mm gun and 200mm of armor is stupid

[dapper zenith]

thats the thing, they were trying to stop it from being good at bullying front line and also a true td,

[low pecan]

Concealment values makes it unable to camp, plus Mt and lt easily circle it, and gets left behind by faster HT

[paper dust]

It’s a skill issue mate

[low pecan]

try saying that to yourself when you get circled in a TD and die because of it😂

[paper dust]

It’s literally just a big gun attached to a bunker with an engine. It’s not supposed to be nimble. And I have dealt with the circling. It’s semi-easily avoided by getting a range advantage.

[low pecan]

Even 45° degrees turn rate tanks get cooked by circling light tanks, I speak from experience

[dapper zenith]

its also easy to minimize the stb-1 armour issues lol 🤪

[thorny timber]

I mean that's basically a TD for you, you go alone and you get punished by being a free kill unless you're absurdly fast or have a turret to compensate

[paper dust]

I guess, but sometimes I feel like the turret isn’t strong enough

[pale granite]

You guys are overcomplicating everything way too much. When evaluating a tank, you only need to look at four things: Is the gun strong? Is the armor effective? Is it mobile? Does it have special skills?

​Well jage100 fails in all four categories, so we can easily say it’s a weak tank. For a tank destroyer, the gun is unnecessarily inaccurate and the DPM is lacking. Even the 183, which has 950 alpha (and can hit for 1200-1300), has a higher DPM value. The armor definitely doesn't work; you can only bounce shots from tanks with very low gold penetration, like the t100lt . You are just a massive, vulnerable, flat piece of container. As for mobility, it’s practically zero. The tank doesn't have any special abilities either.

​In the end, this is a tank that offers you nothing but 800 alpha damage—and it can’t even get that right..

[dapper zenith]

ppl post about buffs after a tank has been op and theyre like oh no the tank i dominated in insnt as good, what should i do , its hilarioius really

[pale granite]

I have been playing this game for years. The last time the Jage100 was actually strong was 6 or 7 years ago. Ever since autoloaders started dominating the current meta, tanks like the jage100 have become completely irrelevant. i don’t even understand what you’re trying to point out

Right now, even a straightforward tank like the Vz. 55 makes way more sense than the jager. It has 920 2 magazined alpha, it has a turret, it’s more mobile, and it has more HP. In this situation, why would i even bother driving a Jage100?

[dapper zenith]

bro i just said last year it was at its best

[paper dust]

TVP VTU needs a gun depression and armor buff

[clear shuttle]

going by this logic the leopard is the 4th worst mt

[late dawn]

issue with high very high alpha tanks is that either they're really overly strong or they do absolutely nothing and there's no real inbetween

[barren marsh]

vk 72 need more dmg per shoot 620 minimum or bring back 640 like old days becose i have rools under 500 dmg... and i lost tournamet becose i deal 450 DMG when my enemy has 500...

[brazen steeple]

another wild and ragebait take by a man who knows nothing about the tank

[obtuse rover]

jgpz could use more hp since its slow and combat stabilization to counteract accuracy issues. No tungsten don need higher alpha

[thorny timber]

Yes, that is true and it has to be compensated by some other common factors like survivability or penetration or accuracy

jageroo doesn't really have much problem on any of these common factors either (except for perhaps accuracy which is mostly saved by the pen) and this tank is highly discouraged to be left to camp with its slow speed, bad camo and large profile, but still in a way it's still much less of a mess than the fv215b 183 is

[pale granite]

If you want a tank that deals high damage per shot, the 183 is a much more sensible and fun choice. The Jag E 100 doesn't really make sense as long as the 183 is an option.

[late dawn]

i think it's time to remove the autoloader from the concept
whoever decided that it was a good idea is definitely trolling and i refuse to believe otherwise

[deft echo]

day 53 of asking to buff e10 alpha to 430 to mimic the stock gun like the e100, buff the turret armor in exchange for the turn rate, buff hull armor and hull traverse rate

day 46 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha to 175 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least 10 degrees gun depression, give the upper plate a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 21 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 330 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 7 of asking to give TL-7-120 gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[pure laurel]

GODDAMN PLEASE FRICKEN BUFF THE TORTOISE ARMOUR OR AT BEST MOBILITY 😭😭😭

[desert glade]

deadly gun is enough i suppose

[pure laurel]

Tell me u haven't played this abomination 😭

[desert glade]

i got 183 without free exp

[pure laurel]

I mean it ain't hard to master but it's map dependent , extremely map dependent

[desert glade]

yeah i agree

[pure laurel]

So lets agree to buff its armor at least like t95

[desert glade]

a bit but not too much

[pure laurel]

At least the capula(commanders hatch)

[brazen steeple]

jag needs a buff fs. other options r much stronger

[viscid breach]

For the record, ELC AMX 901 appears to have bugged ramming damage. We have tested ramming it in a training room with multiple different tanks, and at multiple different ramming angles. It seems to take way too little ram damage. It also imparts far too much ram damage to other far heavier tanks like an aufkl panther

side ram damage seems accurate enough. But front and rear are inconsistent at the best of times, and downright wacky at worst.

we are banning it from human team in HvZ for the time being, even though it's under 20 tonnes. Ram damage is just too buggy

on the plus side, it'll make for a fun ramming experience in infected front

[waxen geode]

Your opinion on the Tier 7 St Emil please. Good? Bad? Thank you.

[lusty ocean]

It’s really good

Really good pen and mobility with gear oil

[paper dust]

Super sweaty camping machine

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[opal island]

when are going to nerf armor hybrid heavy tech tree?

[austere trout]

Buff branch of Fv215b 183, Namely Tortoise and AT 15, Incredibly low mobility, low hp, it is not difficult to penetrate, especially the commander's turret, Terrifying accuracy And weak penetration for their class make these tanks the weakest in randomness

[brazen steeple]

is the e3 supposed to be good? what is this tank man

[obtuse rover]

183 should branch off the Conway and add alligator for armored British tds.

Conway branch gna be toxic

[scarlet karma]

Can AC Atlas get a 10-shell rapid-fire gun like the AT-7 with low damage/shot but high damage/clip?

[paper dust]

NO

We already have the FVE

[scarlet karma]

each shell is individually fired unlike FVE or annihilator

[twin egret]

Reduce the weight of the AMX ELC 901 because it absolutely makes no sense why that thing should weigh as much as 20 tons lol

[fickle mauve]

Please add Type 5 Heavy to mysteri certificate or container collect them all, newest, mega and awesome

[velvet pewter]

the tank is already good

[low pecan]

anyone found the secret gift?

[supple hawk]

pls buff the maus armor with gold it turns into butter make it so that u only get penned from the side/rear

[red haven]

That thing weighs 5 tons at best

[obtuse rover]

T110E4 should have AP standard like the E3

[tepid pulsar]

Anyone else get a chance to drive the kjpz tiii jäger it's crazy good

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[misty whale]

Obj 705a when will be added? And what do u think about it?

[paper dust]

That would be ridiculous. It can’t be that hard to just hide the lower plate.

[cinder needle]

No the turret cheeks and even the upper plate are incredibly easy to penetrate even with normal AP rounds

Bounce 1 shot out of 15 fired at you in a match

[paper dust]

The TVP T 50/51 needs a clip reload buff. 17.7 seconds for a 3 shot gun is trash

Or it just needs the 4th shot back idk

[deft echo]

day 54 of asking to buff e10 alpha to 430 to mimic the stock gun like the e100, buff the turret armor in exchange for the turn rate, buff hull armor and hull traverse rate

day 47 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha to 175 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least 10 degrees gun depression, give the upper plate a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 22 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 330 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 8 of asking to give TL-7-120 gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[obtuse rover]

T110E4 APCR —> AP

[mild parrot]

Vickers L should have standard HESH like the 215b.
as a light tank with no other outstanding feature (e.g. high alpha, tracers, a clip)
not having that higher pen shell is extremely rough against high armour targets.

quite literally just shift it's current prammo to be it's standard HE shell, and give it a prammo shell.

[clear shuttle]

it used to have heat

[mild parrot]

I’m aware. Ive been around for 5? 6? Years

[clear shuttle]

6 or 7 years?

[paper dust]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-kid-edit-analog-horror-phonk-gif-3349401281762803381

[scarlet yarrow]

REMOVE PORT BAY FROM BLITZ PERMANANTLY

every map needs to be good for all tanks

[prisma jetty]

What does this have to do with tank balance?

[lilac crest]

Give IS-8 MORE Power weight ratio up to 17 deg please

[deft echo]

its a T9, its literally good

[scarlet karma]

In what ways could WG scale this gun to tier 10?

[twin egret]

look at lesta and look for MS-10 tank and there's your answer

[lilac crest]

119 pen?...cant even pen anything

[terse cairn]

Give it 950 alpha, 310mm AP, 380mm APCR, 180mm HE, buff the accuracy, keep the reload and number of shells same

[gleaming locust]

Fr turret armor needs massive buff

[cinder shard]

The Maus isn't a tank that can just be driven straight into the enemy team without consequences, and in reality, no tank should be like that. The armor itself isn't that impressive against Tier 10 (especially gold shells) on its own but improves massively when used correctly. There are ways to make it more effective and bait shots.

[floral steeple]

Which app do you use to check armor? Is it specifically for Blitz?

[cinder shard]

BlitzKit

https://blitzkit.app/tanks/

It's a website

[summer gazelle]

buff gsor the tank ARMOR

[wary saddle]

no

[nimble zodiac]

That’s what you get when you have a stock tier 7 peashooter

[deft echo]

what tank is that from

[nimble zodiac]

AT 7

[deft echo]

oh
I thought it was from ATAC

[velvet panther]

Wargaming make foch 155 armour more stronger so u can rely on

[paper dust]

It’s pretty strong right now

[terse cairn]

Its already pretty strong

[cobalt pebble]

do anyone know how to get the E25?

[glad belfry]

In the store

[cobalt pebble]

now?

[glad belfry]

No sadly not. You will have to wait and look out for it in the store

[cobalt pebble]

thanks!

[glad belfry]

Dw. Hope you get it soon because its one of the most fun tanks in the game

[cobalt pebble]

true

[zinc shuttle]

e25 funniest tanks in game ?

[velvet panther]

Nah dude everyone penned me even light tanks, medium tanks

[velvet panther]

Only powerful ting is one barrel shooter and speed

[fringe verge]

It need better gun handling

[glad belfry]

I said one of the most fun tanks

Or i think that it is at least

[glad belfry]

Yeah ofc it doesnt get any blunces because the E25 got 0 armor

[glad belfry]

Sounds like a skill issue to me if you expect a non armored tank to get bounces

[velvet panther]

What?... Did anyone said E25?...💀

[velvet panther]

It sometimes gets bounced when u suddenly move left and right when tank is close

Wargaming make foch 155 hull armour from 200mm to 210mm

[glad belfry]

No but u didnt respond to anyone so i thought u meant that

[glad belfry]

Yeah but that happens with every tank ”sometimes”

[velvet panther]

This is tank balance discussion...💀 and here everyone making their thoughts about tanks what they need change.

[glad belfry]

Okay my bad

I thought u tagged me so my bad

[velvet panther]

...

[pure laurel]

Wg make fv 183 grind less painful, regards -67

[fluid burrow]

buff wz 111gft mobility make it reach top speed within no time and maybe add more armour

[dapper zenith]

hmnm havent seen anyone talk about it much, i havent played it in awhile and cant remember how it playued tbh

[waxen geode]

Is Super Hellcat similar to tier 6 tech tree Hellcat? I wanna buy it.

[dapper zenith]

its a better version but its not that dominant when facing t8, you need to bring more prammo than usual

[deft echo]

day 54 of asking to buff e10 alpha to 430 to mimic the stock gun like the e100, buff the turret armor in exchange for the turn rate, buff hull armor and hull traverse rate

day 47 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha to 175 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least 10 degrees gun depression, give the upper plate a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 22 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 330 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 8 of asking to give TL-7-120 gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[waxen geode]

Thank you.

[mild parrot]

Jageroo needs a significant buff to it's superstructure and upper plate armour.
and needs combat stabs added.

[scarlet yarrow]

the IS-4 needs at least 7-8 degrees of gun depression

[dapper zenith]

even with -6 you can make the turret almost impenetrable, with anymore it would be too good on a ridge or slope

[scarlet yarrow]

but its not very flexable

[uneven turtle]

That’s not even carro to begin with

[lime swallow]

buff bz176 and char futur 4 pls 🥺

give the bz a shorter intra clip and shorter reload
give the char futur an autoloader at least

[uneven turtle]

<@&481447501690568709> the uhhh pfp

Not sure if it is what I think it is

[primal yacht]

✅ tiensasuke6503 was banned.

[paper dust]

No to both of those.

[fluid burrow]

im close to two marking it but its really slow

[green willow]

Hello.
I would like to say that at the moment the T-22 medium has lost almost all of its playability. After its nerf it already became a tank for enthusiasts, and now it has completely lost its uniqueness.
Just look at the current situation: there is the tech-tree E 50 M, which has armor, a good gun and decent mobility, and at the same time it does not break random battles. There is also the KPz 50 t, which plays a similar role, only a bit smaller and with slightly less armor.
And then there is the T-22: the gun is just okay, mobility is fine, but the armor works very inconsistently. Sometimes you get a bounce from the turret, but most of the time it gets penetrated very easily.
So the question is, why should a player choose the T-22 medium, if almost any other tier X medium tank is stronger or has a clearer and more useful role in battle, something the T-22 lacks. That is why I think the tank needs a buff.
Here are my small ideas for improving it:
increase the alpha damage to at least 330, so it doesn’t have the lowest damage among tier X medium tanks, add a bit more frontal armor, and possibly improve accuracy.

[uneven turtle]

When everything that makes the t22 good is a point that you shine a light on it as bad, I realise the amount of energy I’ll need to convince you otherwise and hence will not be joining this argument

[hollow wind]

"add a bit more frontal armor" 💀

[fringe verge]

Buff maus gun

[twin egret]

Nah, the only buff it needs is the engine deck armor going from 30mm to 40mm

[hushed token]

Did bro just consider a medium version of IS 7 "lost its uniqueness" ? Just get good gng

[quick bough]

Buff 114 SP2 upper plate and the Turret or increase damage and better accuracy

[terse cairn]

Give 260 wot pc armor and more heat pen

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[warm bolt]

give nc 70 tungsten

[deft echo]

day 55 of asking to buff e10 alpha to 430 to mimic the stock gun like the e100, buff the turret armor in exchange for the turn rate, buff hull armor and hull traverse rate

day 48 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha to 175 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least 10 degrees gun depression, give the upper plate a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 23 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 330 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 9 of asking to give TL-7-120 gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[fluid burrow]

give wz 111gft power to weight ratio of 17 or 18

it may have decent reverse speed but whats the use of it when power to weight ratio is 12 (road)

+the armour isnt that reliable , 240 ish mm on front is penetrable by almost every tank

[velvet panther]

Wargaming give foch 155 gun turn limit+ by + or 2

[timber ledge]

Is-2 shielded is underrated icl

[grave vault]

Still waiting for that 800 AP single-shot BZ-176 buff.

[weak stump]

I mean there more versions of IS2 then there are of Tiger

IS tech tree yes a earlier model but still the same then IS2 USSR IS2 Chinese IS2 GuP then IS2 Sheilded

[timber ledge]

Yh you got a point fair enough

[obtuse rover]

Would be nice to have but it’s already a good tank now

T110e4 APCR —-> AP

[dusk mountain]

Give maus reactive

[weak stump]

How about we dont rely on consumables

[paper dust]

It has enough health

[dusk mountain]

💀

[deft echo]

ragebaited

[dusk mountain]

lol fr

[obtuse rover]

gng

[scarlet yarrow]

GIVE THE BZ-176 A FREAKING ARMOR BUFF, it gets penned by freaking tier 8s like its nothing

[weak stump]

Well gotta remember since the calibration buff most tier 8 heavys can have like 240 standard pen thats old TD area of pen

Alright now this just downright sad now they literally gave this tank away twice or even 3 times via code like devs ya serious how low can ya already go

If was gunna sell it at least just give the rare paint job for it or idk BT42 since we didn't see it sold in a decade

[clear shuttle]

bt42?

[haughty vault]

watered down kv-2 turret on a bt-5 (or bt-7 hull)

[clear shuttle]

but its in blitz?

[weak stump]

Its technically called BT arty but its literally a BT42

If remember a Swedish BT they had but changed the turret they had one in GuP movie

[prisma jetty]

BT arty and BT-42 are different. BT arty is a BT with a new gun in the same turret. BT-42 is a Finish modification with a new turret entirely

[lime swallow]

how much do u think the price will be

[lilac crest]

More mobility? I guess....like increase acceleration or power weight ratio and decrease reload from 9.7 with cali to 9.2 with cali and 8.9 while run Rammer

[mild parrot]

buff single shot heavy tank track durability.
across t8-10

single shot heavies should not be instantly tracked by a single shot, then making them free food for the clipper most likely trying to perma track.

it makes sense for heavies with clips to be easily tracked, or even high fire rate heavies.

but standard 105 and 122mm (at t8) heavies shouldn't be free food for clippers breaking tracks with every shot

[idle fern]

Give kpz 70 320 heat

[velvet panther]

Wargaming give T110E4 gun turn limit from -6 to -7 and reverse speed from 10 to 14

[quick bough]

Vz 55 intra clip to 2 seconds more like the pc version

[clear onyx]

Give the is7 2600 hp, 10.77 secs of reload time and 39 kmph top speed and remove tungsten pls

[quasi mountain]

In your opinion,will be keni otsu nerfed after the auction?

[clear onyx]

Give the vk 72.01 k 2550 stock hp 630 ap alpha remove tungsten and give it reload of 14.9
secs stock pls

[grave vault]

No Tungsten BUT 700 AP.

[clear onyx]

about the hit points should it be as it is or should it be 2550

[grave vault]

VK is very balanced right now, at least for my opinion.

They shouldn't touch the VK, E3 & E4. Those tanks are already fine.

[clear onyx]

Then wg should remove both sandbags from vk 72 for better rebalancing like e 100 has no sandbags

E3 and e4 can remain as it is

[high wind]

buff ms1 to like 2900 hp, and a 800 alpha gun!1!!

[tardy dove]

I really do believe that the BZ-176 deserves a buff of either the armor or the gun. Because when lower tier heavies can pen you hulldown you know there is something wrong with it. After all everything about this tank is horrible and there is no point in buying it when things like 752 and Erich exists. I feel like both the gun and the turret armor needs buffs. Make the turret the same as it is in PC along with the gun depression and thats it. Thats all this tank needs

[grave vault]

We need the gun and depression first, to be honest.

The armor can stay. But the tank deserves that juicy 800 AP and 980 HESH.

[tardy dove]

I think that would be a bit too much

After all dont forget how broken it is on PC

Because currently it has 6 degrees of gun depression which just sucks. Give it the 10 it deserves and leave the rest to be

[grave vault]

The gun manlet should also move up when aiming down like WoT's.

[tardy dove]

Exactly and make it a weakspot and i think it would be balanced. And maybe decrease the aiming time because ohhh god is it insanenly bad

[prisma jetty]

The mantlet does move up and down on it

[grave vault]

Nah nah keep the aiming time to "balance" it.

I want that juicy 800 alpha.

With 32 sec. reload to "balance" it.

[grave vault]

Are you sure about that.

[prisma jetty]

Yes

[velvet panther]

In E4 tank it needs buff only gun turn limit down from -6 to -7 and foch need buff to on that. E3 got nerf on penetration but still good damage

[flint sage]

quite a stealth nerf on armor 116-F3

[soft spindle]

Still one of the best tier X right now

[flint sage]

why no informatin on nerf armor

[soft spindle]

I don’t know lol I don’t work here

[flint sage]

i know

[weak stump]

Come on now WG dont want its super fans to whine that they are publicly nerfin it half a year after they released it

[lone shard]

how is it a nerf?

the turret cheeks are still red when shooting it with prem from 116 gun

[flint sage]

356mm penetration 116-F3 pen this thank on autorelouder gun on hull down

[lone shard]

was that not always the case?

[flint sage]

not always

this is screen on blitzkit (opentest) on last actualizaction 1.29.7

[deft echo]

day 55 of asking to buff e10 alpha from 400 to 425 to mimic E 100's stock gun, buff the turret armor in exchange for its turn rate, buff hull armor and its hull traverse rate

day 48 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha from 160 to 165 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least -9 degrees of gun depression, give the upper plate and the frontal turret a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 24 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 325 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 10 of asking to give TL-7-120 a reverse speed buff, add gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[weak stump]

New year but matches are still getting worse swear if take away teirs I would think this is tier 1-3 despite it bein teir 8

[terse cairn]

It wasn't nerfed bruh. 116 turrets were always weak

[weak stump]

Its still a nice tank though kinda a smaller version of the tier 9 Wz think was 119 or somethin

[velvet panther]

Wargaming make E4 gun turn limit to down from -6 to -7

[deft echo]

dude its a walking bunker, armor is already enough to deserve that gun dep, if you want that to happen play T30 instead

[velvet panther]

Of course, someone has to come out with a negative opinion. K foch 155 and obj 263 is both good armour walking bunker but both 3 of them got very bad Dep on down. I'm trying to tell wargaming that it need to get better, not only that it is same as when some tanks need to change ammo from composit rigid someone will jump out and say use premium shells 🤓👆

[deft echo]

-1725/10 ragebait

[pure laurel]

E100 smoking now😭🥀

[deft echo]

wdym

[pure laurel]

Why ur image keeps changing like first was e100 with smoking gun, second with this laughing kitten meme and now 116 f3??!

Nvm it might be a discord glitch.

[deft echo]

its just the ginger cat laughing meme

better get that fixed man 🙏

[haughty vault]

nerf e50m

[weak stump]

Nah here at WG we only buff the E75M

[haughty vault]

[velvet panther]

? Why did u tag me?

[slender hull]

come back hesh and engine power boost in super conqueror

this new version is garbage

[solar stump]

Improve the hull spin of the T110E5 and improve HE penetration

Nerf FV4005 firing time

[weak stump]

Bruh Fv4005 2 shot makes it workable leave it be

[obtuse rover]

4005 4 seconds is ok, maybe nerf the speed cuz it’s way too fast for the firepower remove ssb and the reticle consumable

vk72 could use 2.6k base hp and maybe 630 alpha.

[pearl stirrup]

Oh hell no! The t11 needs to stay as is

[pearl stirrup]

Even the fv4005 leave it be!!!!

[obtuse rover]

Ok my bad!

[wicked quest]

You touch that speed boost and I will kill you

[obtuse rover]

I’m not a dev brochacho ✌️mb gng

[clear shuttle]

buff the reverse speed trust

[weak stump]

I only accept a speed nerf if give it actual TD concealment as its already a big target without dumb armor like Fv183

[obtuse rover]

ok ye

[weak stump]

Think of it as the fat rat of the rat tanks

[deft echo]

day 56 of asking to buff e10 alpha from 400 to 425 to mimic E 100's stock gun, buff the turret armor in exchange for its turn rate, buff hull armor and its hull traverse rate

day 49 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha from 160 to 165 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least -9 degrees of gun depression, give the upper plate and the frontal turret a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 25 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 325 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 11 of asking to give TL-7-120 a reverse speed buff, add gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[weak stump]

E10 already great as it is can bully tier 7 way more then Smasher could

[obtuse rover]

Reactive armor jgpze100

[mild parrot]

no.

people have sorta discussed this.
all the jageroo needs is a bit of a buff to it's superstructure armour and combat stabs

the less tanks with reactive the better

[uneven turtle]

It’s already been improved greatly from 27 to 33 degrees

[weak stump]

Honestly why not just remove super consumables in general kinda a over reliance on them as people rather make a tank good or bad with consumables besides general gameplay

[mild parrot]

agreed honestly.
even adrenaline isn't needed.
all super consumables do is make bad tanks have a crutch instead of a buff, as well as make the already fast matches faster.

if every tank had a repair kit, a med kit, and a fire extinguisher (auto or manual. make em actually cost credits) it would be fair and tanks could receive proper balancing. instead of crutches. unless the tank doesn't need the crutch, then it just becomes an insane asset.

but, without super consumables then there would be no point to play blitz over WoT PC's onslaught.
blitz would be fairly dry without them. but they are used too much as a crutch for bad tanks and a weapon for whatever OP tank WG wants to sell.

[weak stump]

Take the Chinese tier 10 TD for example without super consumables its still a nice tank armor nice the gun reliable as reactive just for brain dead people to yolo and win as all it does is decrease incoming damage even if get focused fired which was heavily seen with Amx 50Bs

[fluid burrow]

make m4 yoh intra clip from 7 seconds to 4 seconds clearly it is fair to reduce intra clip time for this tank

[signal dagger]

Like they did to the 4005

[weak stump]

That and the frenchie heavy that also has that issue not the Somu the other one from auction

[weak stump]

Technically Fv4005 was a clip change not reload difference from 4 shells to 2

For the tier 8 Yoh and frenchie heavy it would make it more workable as 8 sec in between shots is ehhh might as well use Somu

[signal dagger]

But still the damage was incredible increase to the two shells. This theoretically decreased the reload inner clip.

[weak stump]

Obviously as if it was 300 damage per shot people would ask where the damage since its technically absorbing the other 2 shots it got rid of
also hate how picky the auto mod for chat is

The armor for the Yoh is not that bad either just damage output just so slow almost not worth using

[mild parrot]

If the E6 wants to identify as a medium tank with 400 alpha and heavy tank hp. then it needs to lose all of it's armour. it's actually impossible to fight in any 1 on 1 situation as a medium or light.
it's dpm is on par with you, it's mobility isn't far off, it out trades you by a long shot. and it has more than just troll armour.

it also has 10 degrees of gun dep, so it wins any ridgeline. you cant even work terrian against it

[rain venture]

Buff weight of AMX mle M4 54

66 tons aren't heavy. At least 80 -90 tons of pure french steel should be enough

[fluid burrow]

m-4-y either needs an intraclip buff or magazine reload consumable , 7 seconds for a 310 alpha shell and waiting another 7 seconds its not worth it even tho the clip reload time is 14 seconds , the damage output doesnt feel strong and the gun accuracy its not that great
and the armour is non existent people snap shot cupola without even trying reduce the cupola size aswell

its better to give m4 y magazine reload boost + reticle cali

[mild parrot]

no ret cali, no clip reload boost.

tank either becomes op with super consumables, or gets nerfed so the super consumable becomes a crutch.

think of how it would be better, but balanced without needing super consumables.

and honestly. the M-IV-Y is just fine as is. it's not a standard clipper. and it's not supposed to be

[fluid burrow]

ik its supposed to be similar to those autoreloader type autoloader but it doesnt feel that strong or accurate

[mild parrot]

play it more like a T54E2 that has 4 shells that reload much quicker.
but after those 4 you have the reload of a 53TP

[fluid burrow]

ik but 7 seconds.. thats like 28 seconds to dump entire clip and waiting 14 seconds for another clip

if a tiger 2 has a reload of 10 seconds , it would take it 40 seconds to deal similar damage
m 4 yoh needs 28 seconds

but while you are reloading your clip , in the same time tiger will out reload you

also yeah the gun is really unpredictable

i just hope it gets a clip reload of 5 ish seconds rather than 7

[violet galleon]

buff type 5

[mild parrot]

uuuh no.

@fluid burrow first off the reload.

you aren't understanding, your intra clip is ~2 seconds faster than any other standard 105mm gun. for the same alpha. for 4 shells, you can play exactly like the T54E2, or even the Tiger 2, but with more aggression.
you are thinking of it as a clip dumping tank like the Emil or T77. it's not that.
you play like a single shot that out reloads everything of the same caliber.

after those 4 shells you only have to back off for 13.8 seconds. THATS THE SAME RELOAD AS A SINGLE SHOT 122MM. oh no, a tiger 2 out reloads your clip reload, but you shouldn't be extended out when you're on clip reload. just like any tank with a 122mm.

that's more than manageable and is a very flexible playstyle. it's just not a common playstyle. nothing else plays like that.

the accuracy? it's in the middle ground of 105mm guns and 122mm guns. completely reasonable. and actually not bad. for the increased capability of aggression. it shouldn't have insane accuracy.

the cupola is a weak spot, but the rest of the turret and the hull is very strong.
you can actually wedge your gun straight up to hide your cupola if that's where people wanna shoot

[hushed token]

Play M-4-Yoh like how you play Minotauro on WOT PC

[fluid burrow]

ye i do ge tback into cover fast but the armour kinda unreliable

[mild parrot]

it's armour isn't fantastic. but it does have armour.
make use of what you got, it doesn't need better armour.

if you want better or more reliable armou then yeah, play the tiger 2 or t54e2

[fluid burrow]

its fun tho

[terse cairn]

Give obj 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[fluid burrow]

m 4 y mobility is way better honestly so eh ill keep playing the current one but during tier 8 balancing it gets a buff ill be real happy

[warm bolt]

give nc70 tungsten uhh

[waxen geode]

I just had a horrible match with the BZ 58. I made 7 shots and they all bounced. What a horrible tank. Couldn't even penetrate the back of a T49.

[thorny timber]

that reverse is criminal tho tbh, i think gear oil would make it more flexible

[scenic olive]

@mild parrot the yoh was good until they made the bisonte have like 3k dpm, now there is no real reason to use it when you can just use the bisonte which also has way better turret armor

[floral verge]

The Maus needs more frontal ramming armor. I was playing in my Maus in uprising and it was a 1v1 against a OBJ 777 II and neither of us had wolf strike yet when we collided I did 81 damage and he did 600

[mild parrot]

Bisonte is just the bisonte.
It’s dumb but oh well.

The same argument of “why play a t8 heavy with a 105mm when the bisonte exists” also flips to the 53TP and 122mm heavies

[weak stump]

The middle ground would be to set it as a 4 sec in between shots so its not a true clipper but its still easier to get the shots out like Somu

[mild parrot]

4 secs is a clipper...
it just becomes a 12 sec clip dump for 1200 damage heavy

[weak stump]

But still isnt as fast as 2.5 where you could hold your own

Even Somu 3.5 for its damage fair combined your still reloading for 24ish secs which is alot of downtime

[grave spindle]

BZ-176 lowkey deserved the 160mm gun he haves on pc
22s reload , 650/800 dmg , same for pen as it is on PC

[long frigate]

Give the wt Auf pz 4 a 700 dmg gun

No downsides just upgrade

[minor sage]

Guys am I hallucinating or the vk 45.02 A got a buff with the reload speed bc first time purchased the tank the top gun reload speed was 13s now it is 9s

[weak stump]

Doesn't fix the Vk 45s bein meh

[tame kayak]

remove the black hole from the 183

[deft echo]

day 57 of asking to buff e10 alpha from 400 to 425 to mimic E 100's stock gun, buff the turret armor in exchange for its turn rate, buff hull armor and its hull traverse rate

day 50 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha from 160 to 165 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least -9 degrees of gun depression, give the upper plate and the frontal turret a little bit of armor and lastly, pbr.

day 26 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 325 and buff its pen from all shell types

day 12 of asking to give TL-7-120 a reverse speed buff, add gear oil and improved gear oil provisions

[dense saffron]

Will there be premium tanks becoming collector tanks again?

[weak stump]

Always at WG convenience
kek

[radiant cipher]

Good evening
Tank: Tornvagn.
Problem: At the moment, the tank is too boring and ineffective due to its low DPM and complete dependence on terrain.
My proposal:
• Add a 2-shot autoloader.
• Alpha damage: 300 HP per shot (600 per magazine).
• Magazine reload time: 20–22 seconds.
Trade-off: The gun depression could be reduced to 8 degrees in exchange for this autoloader. This would make the tank a “younger brother” of the Concept 1B and give it more uniqueness among Swedish heavy tanks.

[mild parrot]

so uh. why would anyone play this over the T77 or bisonte.
with a cycle like that always firing your reserve shell in the bisonte would look good.

torn is in the list of t8's that are going to become t9's in the near future.
in the reforged test it had a 3 shell, 400 alpha gun. very much like the kran.

[radiant cipher]

Interesting! If Tornvagn becomes a tier 9 with a 3-shell, 400 alpha gun like the Kran, that would definitely solve the boredom issue. Looking forward to seeing it in the Reforged update!"

[mild parrot]

might even get the change before reforged.

[hushed token]

Can we just stop adding double shot auloading gun 🥀

[mild parrot]

It’s world of autoloaders blitz.
Wdym? We need every tank to have 2 shot autoloaders!

[hollow wind]

183 soon fr

[grave spindle]

Give rhm, wt auf pz IV and grille their 700 dmg guns from pc
Would be soo 🔥🔥🔥

And second one , it would be good to give the MBT-B his 3(6) shot autoloader gun from pc , but make his reload from 12/8 to 58s and move him to T10
Give him more pen and Armor
But make his turret rotation slow and give him 3,5s between shells
It would make him balanced because its current version is meh

Asking about it because NO ONE plays MBT-B

[deft echo]

this has to be ragebait

[viral girder]

Hello, I would like to make a suggestion regarding AE Phase 1.
This tank is rare and desirable for every player, and it was just as desirable for me.
But it is frankly unsuitable for modern random battles.
The damage per minute is ridiculous, there is absolutely no armour... you might say to play from the gun's angle of inclination, but even that doesn't help, as there is a huge commander's hatch.
The gun is inaccurate, the shells fly anywhere but the target. The speed is too low for such a amount of armour.
Can you sew up the commander's hatch? Maybe add a turbo boost? Improve the accuracy of the gun? Add at least something that will make this tank a real dream, and not just a collector's item that just sits in the hangar? Thank you for any feedback, I know that everything is in your power, thank you😊

[chilly heath]

Nerf atac

[summer gazelle]

nerf bct

[ocean cairn]

I think Lorraine 50t should receive a buff, it currently stands on a awkward middle ground

Either give it more alpha and armor and turn it into a full heavy

Or give it more mobility and dpm and turn it into a heavium

(And give it ap standart)

[weak stump]

If remember it correctly Lorraine 50t literally a med even if say upgrade the armor to be a heavy you literally gotta upgrade the Lorraine tier 8 armor as well since thats the exact hull it uses so yeah cant buff a paper hull

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[high swift]

Give sheridan a different gun or just better aim I've been using it for a while its my first tier 10. And I think that its just not a good tank. The tank has everything but armor and a good gun

[weak stump]

Bruh Sheridan good as it is and wha armor its a light tank not a med just wish light tanks have more ammo capacity like BC for bein a clipper

[high swift]

Bro when you fire a shell with sheridan it goes anywhere but hit the target

[weak stump]

Not me it hits where I am even at range

[high swift]

Idk bro I play with sheridan hit and run

[weak stump]

Thats the issue cant always think will hit a shot on the move best to always aim as saves time en frustration bouncing

[high swift]

Ok do you have more tips?

[red haven]

This is even more boring than the tank already is.
Just wait until blitz reforged where this tank will be a tier IX autoreloader

[deep venture]

buff the Lion pls ty, can't think if a single reason to play it over the Carro (besides thungsten ig)

[ivory quiver]

Reverse autoreloader ig

[weak stump]

Considering we dont need to grind crew you can just have the Sheridan and dont touch it since there pretty much a wide selection of vehicles to use for different needs even some that are technically better then Sheridan despite not doin 400ish damage per shot

[weak stump]

Probably the best way since would make it alot better for dps

[grave vault]

Chat when are we getting 800 alpha BZ-176.

Nah wait I got a better idea.

Keep the magazine. Give it another shell, and give it an 6 second intraclip rather than 8 sec. Keep the 560 alpha. And make it 31 sec. reload.

[high swift]

Guys any tips with AMX 50 B? Cuz im struggling to use it because of the nerf

[grave vault]

Yeah nah this seems better. Damn that 1.680 alpha sounds GOOD.

[grave spindle]

Day 2 of asking for PC like changes to MBT-B

[ivory quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-man-throw-out-trash-gif-14761446

[grave spindle]

No thanks

[red haven]

Make badger the successor of tortoise and move fv215b 183 to collector status

[weak stump]

They wont because people already got the Fv183 so thats a free collector that people will rush to get it before the change

[crystal mantle]

yall should add the modernized IS-5, aka the t-10. its basically the same thing as the is5 but with a similar gun as the su 122 54

[red haven]

t-10 is literally is8

[crystal mantle]

u right i got them confused somehow☠️

[weak stump]

they all look the same anyway look at the MBT T series T64 T55 same looks different tank

[mild parrot]

Make the badger (it’s the bad-ger for a reason, it’s not worth being a collector)
The t10 of that line.
Just move the 183 to branch off at the conway.

[clear flax]

No just add badger to the tech tree as an option after tortoise

[mild parrot]

I literally said that. I just said to adjust the 183 to branch off the conway instead of the tort.
Cause that makes more sense

[deft echo]

day 58 of asking to buff E 10 alpha from 400 to 425 to mimic E 100's stock gun, buff the turret armor in exchange for its traverse rate because I feel like having a fast turning turret with the exception of armor basically getting penned with standard shell feels irritating even when angled, same goes with the annoyingly big lower plate weakspot being basically hard to hide, which also need a buff, along with its hull traverse rate being slow as heck

day 51 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha from 160 to 165 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least -9 degrees of gun depression, give the upper plate and the frontal turret a little bit more armor and lastly, pbr.

day 27 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 325 because I feel like it kind of needs that T10 relation a little bit more, like the Leopard PT A having similar alpha, and buff its pen from all shell types just a little

day 13 of asking to give TL-7-120 a reverse speed buff, add gear oil and improved gear oil provisions, because aside from the mobility being actually good especially with max speed boost, reverse speed is actually painful to bear especially when you're retreating while trying to hold the enemy off from pushing

@brisk cedar hows this?

[brisk cedar]

Why?

Same for amx 30 protoype and TL-7-120

FV has a nice explanation, the others do not

[deft echo]

what about E 10?

okay lemme edit that

[tall wigeon]

Hi guys I am a new player in this game which tech tree would you recommend me to get

[hushed token]

60TP , Type 71 , AC Atlas . These lines are cheap in term of XP and their playstyle are really easy to adapt to and they are quite strong.

[sturdy steppe]

Nerf E4 other ways but it needs a gun depp buff like in 2 in sides and 2 in front

Atlas and E5 and most importantly 60tp

[red haven]

No just remove 183 from the tech line. Its existence in that line makes no sense to begin with. Any other tank before 183 like at7, at15, tort have decent armor, no turret, is slow, has fast loading gun and frontline playstyle and then comes fv215 183 which is the exact opposite of all these things I listed. How do you expect average player to adapt a change so big and sudden? Its why a big majority of 183 players are just bad and its not even (entirely) their fault

[patent linden]

All I want to say is BUFFF PROGETTO65

[grave vault]

TWO gun ideas for BZ-176.

1. 800 ALPHA
   Remove the magazine. Give 800 AP alpha and 980 HESH alpha. 1000max.-600min. roll for the AP, 1300max.-700min. roll for the HESH. Give 224 module dmg. too. Give it 32,54 seconds raw reload to "balance" it. The raw aim time is 4 seconds and the raw dispersion is 0,5.

2. 3 SHELL MAGAZINE
   Add another shell to the magazine. Reduce the intraclip to 6 sec. Give it 27,66 seconds raw reload to "balance" it. Keep everything same. Same aim time, same alpha, same dispersion.

And generally, make the gun manlet move upwards when aiming downwards, like the WoT. It doesn't needs the rocket boosters or any other buff/nerf.

Add these two at once like the 116-F3's single shot and autoloader cannon.

[fallow halo]

Do the e5 line

[tall wigeon]

Can we play together

[fallow halo]

Sure whats your ign?

[tall wigeon]

You mean nick name

[fallow halo]

Yes mine is KoNaN_Angel_Of_Death

[tall wigeon]

Bbruh2013 EU

[fallow halo]

Okay

[tall wigeon]

And what is your

[grave vault]

Y'all did I cook?

[muted rampart]

no

We don't need any more 183 type of trash in the game

Just buff the turret armor slightly so it can't be just buttered with AP and bz 176 will be more than fine

[lusty ocean]

We don’t really need more auto loaders, the bz should’ve/should just been a single shot with high alpha

[paper dust]

Make the Centurion 1 and 7/1 useful WG

[muted rampart]

Or just let it be like it is now, it's not a bad tank at all. We don't need any more stupid "yolo ruin someone's game and die" type of tanks.

If you want to improve something on it, let it be anything other than gun

[lusty ocean]

The bz176 is one of the worst tier 9s in the game, sure it’s gun is alright, but it’s huge, slow, and has armor worse than medium tanks. 560x2 is good until you realize it has an 8 second Interclip which is I guess a balancing factor, but judging by how poor the tanks survivability is already it doesn’t justify it.

[muted rampart]

Then guess what, instead of making it another dumpster on tracks whose only redeeming factor is "hehe big numbers go boom" give it some actual character and change something else. Gun on this thing is just fine

Just slightly buffing the turret armor so it's resistant to standard ammo in itself would already be a massive improvement

[lusty ocean]

if you want “character” than just give all the BZ tanks rockets

[muted rampart]

honestly i would be down for that, but it's not happening

I would take it any day over another no skill hesh slinger

[lusty ocean]

it can happen, the tanks have visual rocket boosters on them already

[uneven turtle]

Best wg can offer is super speed boost

[muted rampart]

They do, because their models were ported from WoT PC. Not because WG ever actually planned on adding the boosters. They are allergic to actually fun and interesting mechanics over here in blitz

[lusty ocean]

They could’ve just removed the rockets from the tanks in that case

[muted rampart]

Why do more work if you can... not do it?

[lusty ocean]

The models of the rockets on the BZ in blitz are different from the ones on PC

So that means that they actually put effort into changing the way the tank looked and still gave it a rocket boosters on the back. So something tells me they planned on doing something regarding rockets but instead took the lazy route.

[muted rampart]

Doubt it. When you port elements from one engine to another, they will naturally turn out different. WG hardly ever abandons stuff they already put in any effort into. You can easily see that by how long did they try to hold onto ATGMs being in pubs, even though literally everyone hated that

[uneven turtle]

Yeah and they didn’t completely throw it out either

We have the sheri missile and upcoming kpz 70 missile

[heady dawn]

no 3.

give it 640 alpha and add 3 seconds to clip reload

[paper dust]

Dear god no

[muted rampart]

hell no.

[uneven turtle]

You haven’t reached tier 10 have you

[heady dawn]

I own 36 tier 10s bro

If they can give the 4005 650 alpha with half the clip time 3300 DPM and reticle cali and super speed boost they can at least give the 176 one of those

[uneven turtle]

Then you shouldn’t be in t10

The 4005 existing isn’t an excuse for a faster clipping heavy version to exist

[heady dawn]

nah Im doing pretty good in tier 10

[heady dawn]

it wont have a faster clip it'll still have the 8 seconds

I'm saying add 3 seconds to the total clip reload time, not the intra-clip

[uneven turtle]

Oh I see what you mean

Ok perhaps that sound reasonable

But I’d still rather it’s gun be left alone and other departments be improved on

[heady dawn]

But the BZ-176 is kinda all about the gun

when it comes to all-rounder heavies competition is fierce, it'd have to be buffed massively to actually be viable

and then people would prolly complain why a heavy with such high alpha actually has good stats and so on

[uneven turtle]

Nerf accuracy and buff armor to be more resistant to high pen standard which forces people to use prammo

[fallow lance]

Can we get this tech tree tank in blitz as new British tech tree line?

[uneven turtle]

Considering that wg does try out new things every once in a while, this is very possible, the question would be how long would it take

[fallow lance]

Imagine this, glass cannon very accurate tank, 380-440 alpha dmg, reload of 12 seconds sounds very balanced tank, slow turning just like new Blyskavica and Blitz nation tank, good average speed like every normal medium

[lusty ocean]

sounds super boring ngl

[fallow lance]

We need more balanced tanks instead of side scrape and hull down tanks, we already have them too many

[uneven turtle]

Should be a light tank class that at least exceeds minimum 70km top speed considering it is a wheeled vehicle with maybe 370 alpha for 8 seconds

[fallow lance]

I don't think the tank fits the role as light due to vehicle size and plus on wot pc it's perfect now the way it is

[uneven turtle]

Well, if it entered the game the way you described it, wz 121 would just be the blatantly better option

[fallow lance]

If WG ever wills to put this tank in game I'm sure they'll come with better solution

[clear flax]

The entire at line before 183 is suppose to play frontline assault but they all need armor buffs. Nobody grinds this line other than to get 183 and the issue is people use the 183 like a heavy when in fact it is td

[weak stump]

Also Fv4005 literally has so many negatives and 4 shell clip for 2.5 each made it worse might as well just play Grill or Fv183 at that point at least now a 2 shot makes it easier to deal damage and retreat at least Bz not paper and HP which this guy doesn't understand

[uneven turtle]

1300 in 4 seconds isn’t healthy for the game

Get that in your head

[weak stump]

I do like Tort as has a nice gun but yeah armor just meh your so easy to farm
And @uneven turtle dont you understand am saying there a reason why Fv4005 has a big 2 shot clip and Bz shouldn't right

[uneven turtle]

I’m speechless that you think 4005 is reasonably balanced

[weak stump]

Bro it literally has no armor your a big af target the 2 shot at least helps it a lil with its many cons after all it dont have stupid armor like Fv183 which it shouldn't have for troll armor

[uneven turtle]

I have nothing to say to you

I’ll let someone who has more strength do the talking

[weak stump]

Imagine complaining about a tank that literally has everything goin against having a big clip size just made you a easy target as cant get damage out to back up

[fallow lance]

I think what wg is trying to do with fv4005 is not make it same as on pc that thing just one shots

[weak stump]

As surely you understand Fv4005 having a 4 shell clip just made it useless right now it having 2 shots at least helps it do damage and retreat it you can still get punished hard if people focus on you

[uneven turtle]

You’re fast, you have camo, you can snipe cus reticle cali, and 1300 in 4 seconds means you have the the second best damage for clip dump time ratio in the game, couple with high pen

And even if you can’t get your second shell on the enemy, that’s still 650 into them

[weak stump]

Sure you have camo till ya shoot its not like Grill where it can stay hidden after a shot Fv4005 frame can give you away easily

[uneven turtle]

Shoot once and back into cover, you still put out a large chunk of damage with a single shot

[weak stump]

Would you rather we make it a Fv183 gun and have Hesh

[uneven turtle]

I’d rather it be a single shot 750 which prevents it from putting out a 1300 or 3 shot auto with 430 alpha loader with 3s intra clip that allows enemies to better react to your clip without taking 650 damage and instead just 430

[obtuse rover]

IMO the 4005 does not need its super consumables, reticle makes the already dangerous gun a laser dangerous gun and ssb cmon bru why does it move so fast

[uneven turtle]

It either needs to have its burst capability dumbed down or having a clip that doesn’t chunk for 650 with a single shot

[weak stump]

Of course as a 1 shot makes it better despite people can still miss or bounce the 2nd shot also @obtuse rover I rather WG just removes those consumables completely people are depending on those not the tank itself

[uneven turtle]

The one shot would make it better in more scenarios yes but it also removes the scenario of you losing 1300 in 4 seconds

The burst capacity on 4005 is just blatantly stupid

[weak stump]

People will just use Fv183 instead cant ya see that again Fv4005 fine as it is as it doesn't have the stupid armor Fv183 has

[uneven turtle]

183 is slow and no camo

4005 is fast and has camo

I’d rather a fast tank that can get into more advantageous positions at crucial moments than slugging my way to them

[weak stump]

Yet people always say Fv4005 has the worse camo for a TD sure more then most classes but it isnt like Grill

[uneven turtle]

Since when did anyone say 4005 has bad camo

And grille doesn’t have the best camo either

[weak stump]

Wha I always heard plus from experience I prefer any other TD if want to stay hidden over Fv4005 or Fv183

[uneven turtle]

I think you should check before speaking

At this point I think it’s clear I’m talking with someone who has no clue what they’re talking about

I also want to point out that 4005 has pretty high dpm even for a td

All thanks to atrocious clip

[weak stump]

And obviously you froget a tank size also matters the smaller the tank with the same camo rating has a better chance at staying hidden

[uneven turtle]

That’s not how it works mboi

Camo reduces the view range from which the enemies can spot you

When 4005 is stationary, it reduces the effectiveness of enemy view range against it by 62%. Doesn’t matter if you’re small or not.

That’s the final value, size doesn’t affect that value

[dusk mountain]

How long are you two gonna argue about this lmao

[uneven turtle]

No clue, but I might be getting ragebaited by idiocy

[dusk mountain]

Whats he saying

[uneven turtle]

Need I also add that 4005 has a traversable 180 degree turret, meaning that it doesn’t have to rotate its hull to be able to aim at an enemy, therefore does not reset its camo net bonus?

@dusk mountain He thinks 4005 is reasonably balanced and that it’s gun is justified just because of the size of the tank
-# which still has 62% concealment value with camo net mind you

[dusk mountain]

So whats your argument against his

[uneven turtle]

I’m lazy to repeat, just scroll up

[uneven turtle]

Up to here @dusk mountain

[dusk mountain]

Im ngl I agree with both of you

Yes the gun is broken, cuz if you get two HE shells into a med or light they die instantly, but it has no armor and bad reverse speed, which is accounted for with ssb. Has good camo rating but gets spotted after you shoot most of the time. So imo it’s just an op tank rn

[weak stump]

He needs to stop focusing on only the gun that logic would make half the tanks too op to him

[dusk mountain]

Thats fair to say

[uneven turtle]

It needs to either get a single shot 750 alpha gun, therefore losing the absurd burst

Or a 3 shot 430 alpha with 3s intra, keeping its full clip potential but having a clip that people can have more time to react to

[uneven turtle]

And I did focus on other traits of the tank, you brought up camo, then I argued against that, then I also brought up mobility, and I also brought up the fact it has a turret, which most tds don’t have, much less a 180 degree traversable turret.

[weak stump]

The fact that this was also solely from a Bz gun argument its also crazy since dont even know where that guy went

[dusk mountain]

I mean 1300 in 4 seconds is close to what tvp can do am I right?

[weak stump]

Its also a 1.5 between shots as well isnt it that

[dusk mountain]

Yea im pretty sure. Idk the alpha or anything though. Dont have the tank lol

[uneven turtle]

320 per shot

Full clip does 960 in 3 seconds

That’s still 340 less

[dusk mountain]

I see

[uneven turtle]

Best clip imo goes to murat

780 in 2 seconds

[weak stump]

But by then your reloading for the next burst

[weak stump]

Its nice just there so many meds in teir 10 your overloaded by choices we need more lights though

[uneven turtle]

And since you’re an mt, ur usually closer to the frontline than a td is, putting you closer to punishment

[weak stump]

Remember not half of the maps are big either you can make it work for Normandy Greece map and that one with the burnin Zeppelin but thats about it

[uneven turtle]

Also should add the difference in penetration value of shells is drastic between the tvp and the 4005, but that’s to be expected

[weak stump]

Fv4005 also paper not that hard to pen compared to other TDs you can even check if they are running HE protection since not everyone does

[uneven turtle]

Are we talking about the same thing

[dusk mountain]

I mean im ngl i do agree that 4005 is op most of the time but sometimes tanks are so op because of lobbies having skill issue. Not saying either of you suck but I see people getting nuked by 4005s most of the time when theyre just sitting in the open

[uneven turtle]

4005 is just insanely good at punishing mistakes

[dusk mountain]

I very much agree with that

[weak stump]

As we can see how many nubs are flooding high tiers and WG not doin anything about it sometimes you'll see half your team doin 0 or 1 shot of damage en its pathetic

[dusk mountain]

Yea it’s getting really bad. Idk about on the other servers but NA especially.

[weak stump]

You can especially see it in Big Boss literally was 10 to 28 their boss didn't die once while ours dying for the 3rd time but this wha WG wants especially since they don't care about NA if they did they wouldn't keep some of the good deals for the other servers for themselves

[fallow lance]

Yeah but it's being avoided to do only 1 shot

[dusk mountain]

Ikr 😭

[pale field]

Is there any official WOTB game staff in this community? I hope the official staff can update the IS-5 heavy tank's PBR as soon as possible. The modeling detail of this IS-5 tank is too rough and needs optimization. Also, the Super Conqueror, this tank should also have its PBR updated, it seems like this tank has been forgotten by the official staff.

[muted rampart]

Yes, they are here, but they rarely engage in conversations

And i wouldn't expect them to act on a whim of a single player

[weak stump]

People say shut and stop whining but bruh there a point where the game is ruined by nubs as we cant carry a whole dam team when its a 1v7 as the other 6 guys cant do anything this a team base game not solo everything as a 1 man army
@dusk mountain
as had to redo the message which removed the reply feature

[pale field]

Okay.

[dusk mountain]

Yea thats so true. And then people have the audacity to say, “Youre trash because you aren’t 70%!”

[weak stump]

Cant tell how many times see people threw despite them bein able to win by cap or lives
bruh feels like your the good cop and the other guy the bad cop from earlier

[dusk mountain]

Bro literally. Like the only thing that holds me back from crashing out in chat is that most players are probably elementary school kids.

[weak stump]

Aint me cant handle seeing someone doin somethin stupid in high teirs when they can literally stay in low tiers sure there bad rng when the whole enemy went med side for some reason but if your a lone med vs 2 enemies med side you should know to follow the group as not favorable odds

[dusk mountain]

Yea thats fair

[weak stump]

Reminds me of this stupid Sheridan who says didn't help him despite having a position thats uncontested on Fort Despair as I was far left while he went to the cap hill got shot 2 or 3 times which was all it tool for his ADHD self to yolo all 3 lives he had most likely costing us the win he doesn't understand Uprising is a game for the long term we probably would won med side if he knew to slow down people think Reforge this big change thats for the better its not because the mechanic to lock new players from getting into high tiers wont fix the ones already infestating tiers 8-10s already that and the many controversial stuff we dislike about the changes and the many we probably haven't seen yet

The MBT70 having a missle version also dumb as you literally removed the tech tree line that had it and let people who already had Sheridan keep the missle mechanic by giving a unique Sheridan and the regular one we have now which made Sheridan missle unique and 1 of a kind as we didn't keep T49A

[fallow lance]

Now when I think about it wotb is much more easy compared to painful wot. In wot Grom deals 800 dmg close range while in blitz only 520. FV4005 deals 1,2k dmg 2 shots while in wot it deals 1500k.+ dmg. Wotb is like more peaceful game

[weak stump]

You also gotta remember Blitz just a water down version of the original because its meant for mobile

Speakin of Grom got it for 6.5k

[deft echo]

day 59 of asking to buff E 10 alpha from 400 to 425 to mimic E 100's stock gun, buff the turret armor in exchange for its traverse rate because I feel like having a fast turning turret with the exception of armor basically getting penned with standard shell feels irritating even when angled, same goes with the annoyingly big lower plate weakspot being basically hard to hide, which also need a buff, along with its hull traverse rate being slow as heck

day 52 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha from 160 to 165 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least -9 degrees of gun depression, give the upper plate and the frontal turret a little bit more armor and lastly, pbr.

day 28 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 325 because I feel like it kind of needs that T10 relation a little bit more, like the Leopard PT A having similar alpha, and buff its pen from all shell types just a little

day 14 of asking to give TL-7-120 a reverse speed buff, add gear oil and improved gear oil provisions, because aside from the mobility being actually good especially with max speed boost, reverse speed is actually painful to bear especially when you're retreating while trying to hold the enemy off from pushing

[fallow lance]

I think if WG ever releases Concept 5 it would have high alpha dmg. I imagine since in wot it has 460, in blitz it can have 440 and below

[grave vault]

That's actually a good idea, ngl.

[fluid burrow]

give keiler better hull traverse and better power to weight ratio

[weak stump]

Keiler and E75TS kinda too similar they might put one in tier 9 someday as main difference is the turret look everything else still boxy as usual

[fluid burrow]

e75 ts is gonna go to tier 9 most likely

[craggy grove]

loving the groms module damage

[fluid burrow]

grom might get nerfed tho

yea it will get nerfed

[fluid burrow]

give hwk 30 tungsten + adaptive concealment and tracer shells

[violet galleon]

how ?

maybe a little little nerf

[fluid burrow]

it might get frontal armour reduction

[violet galleon]

true

[regal rampart]

this is a joke right?? why KVJR is worse than Smasher?? KVJR seriously needs to buff

[weak stump]

Both meme tanks so ehhhh plus E10 just a better Smasher

[weak stump]

I mean its the mechanic thats the main issue it needs the armor to even be effective and 50m for damage drop off is way too short for a TD should be at least 100m just for me the whole mechanic kinda a let down its more a nerf then a add on like the light tanks have

[glad flower]

Whats your source

[terse cairn]

Give obj 260 wot pc armor and more heat pen

[faint zinc]

whats the best heavys atm apart from felice and kran

[terse cairn]

Vz, concept 1b, 215B

[fluid burrow]

why would they sell grom in auctions and a whole 750 of them and it was sold for pretty cheap aswell

[red linden]

What tank has the fastest shell velocity ?

Except Lightbringer

[uneven turtle]

• Rinoceronte

[terse cairn]

FVE Defender

[hollow wind]

750 isn't that many compared to other tanks. That being said as a grom owner since release they do need to change it. I like the idea of changing assault shells somehow.

[red linden]

Ok thx

[grave spindle]

Day 3 of asking for PC like changes to MBT-B

[fierce scaffold]

Plz Make Improvement In Cobra Medium Tank

[pallid elk]

Hello

In tomorrow's update, will the Type 62 tank receive an upgrade to its gun reload or aiming time? The game says it will receive an upgrade to its reload time, but it doesn't reload in 4.1 seconds, only in over 5 seconds.

[cinder shard]

I reckon that's supposed to be aim-time

[pallid elk]

It was reload time earlier

[faint zinc]

thanks

[regal rampart]

It's a typo, already fixed

[pale field]

I hope to optimize the modeling detail of the IS-5 and IS-6; the modeling of these two tanks is too rough, and the game textures are also very blurry. These tanks need PBR.

[weak stump]

Its only really cheap because we made it cheap not everyone bid 6.5k though it could been 10k or so plus again kinda a horrible mechanic on it

[terse cairn]

All the tanks are getting pbr in reforged so it doesn't matter anymore

[pale field]

Okay.

Can the internal modules of the Chieftain Mk.6
tank be optimized? In actual gameplay, the
driver module of this tank is easily damaged,
which is due to the unreasonable placement of
this module.

[haughty vault]

where should driver be placed then?

[pale field]

I hope to be able to refer to the actual positions of the tank crew in the real world.

[haughty vault]

i have a proposition for it, how about instead of the driver being inside the tank, the driver controls the tank remotely like toy car

[weak stump]

Wotb literally a arcade version not much gunna make sense compared to say WT

[pale field]

Yes.I just hope this game can be more realistic and better.

[grave vault]

Forget about one tank.

Full tier IX rebalance when.

[red haven]

Tier IX rebalance would to hard

Give BZ 176 alternative cyclic gun with hesh and according reload time

[grave vault]

Nah man. We got tier X rebalance. Tier IX next.

[grave vault]

That's what I'm saying dawg.

They should give the 800 AP & 980 HESH gun.

[red haven]

Also fix char futur on movement and turret dispersion. The tank is supposed to be a tier IX leopard but has even worse on movement than wz 120 makes no sense

[weak stump]

The game okay as it is the real problem is WG lack of effort to balance teams doesn't matter if your tank the worse or best you cant solo the enemy when your allies are at best cannon folder that and the devs seriously need to ask for feedback before even changing anything as everyone agrees this auction pathetic compared to the ones we always had since the selection very very slim

[fallow lance]

Does wg staff even watch this chat?

[pastel dock]

I totally agree, have never enjoyed playing that tank. I have zero clue why it doesn’t have an auto loader, it’s current state in the game is one of the least unique medium tanks in tiers 8-10

[pastel dock]

Doubt it, honestly, which is a shame. They don’t take community feedback on tank balance seriously at all. If they did, there would be a lot more changes and a lot quicker than the little ticky-tack stuff they roll out every so often

[deft echo]

day 60 of asking to buff E 10 alpha from 400 to 425 to mimic E 100's stock gun, buff the turret armor in exchange for its traverse rate because I feel like having a fast turning turret with the exception of armor basically getting penned with standard shell feels irritating even when angled, same goes with the annoyingly big lower plate weakspot being basically hard to hide, which also need a buff, along with its hull traverse rate being slow as heck

day 53 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha from 160 to 165 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least -9 degrees of gun depression, give the upper plate and the frontal turret a little bit more armor and lastly, pbr.

day 29 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 325 because I feel like it kind of needs that T10 relation a little bit more, like the Leopard PT A having similar alpha, and buff its pen from all shell types just a little

day 15 of asking to give TL-7-120 a reverse speed buff, add gear oil and improved gear oil provisions, because aside from the mobility being actually good especially with max speed boost, reverse speed is actually painful to bear especially when you're retreating while trying to hold the enemy off from pushing

[cinder shard]

They do look through these and do consider feedback from my experience.
The main issue is that most comments here are either just "buff/nerf tank X" and don't actually provide meaningful context.

[cinder shard]

This is a pretty good example for the other side.
Context and the experience while playing certain tanks + suggestion about what could be changed and why

You don't need to write this much though

A simple "This tank doesn't feel great to play because it is too slow" is pretty much good feedback.

(Like Binu mentioned a while ago): #tank-balance-discussion message

[deft echo]

Binu said he wants explanations 2 days ago, so I followed

[wheat heron]

is this real, he hit me with all my HP? Are you real?

[obtuse rover]

Yes that’s d kv2 it’s for real

[weak stump]

Bruv figured out Kv2 152 gun actually hurts bet he'll say they are cheating when told em Kv2 could 1 shot another Kv2 anywhere with HE back in the day
also doesn't really help you was in a TD which have lower HP then normal

[acoustic plaza]

gonna have to agree witht he dimwit on this one

[weak stump]

Is why study your enemy line up figure out wha goin against not everyone using the smaller barrel all the time for me I just like the look of thr 152 more on the Kv2

[wheat heron]

How to aim on wick point of tank, not doing it manuely? Is there any trick, i am new on this game, i see that some player get all hit?

[acoustic plaza]

aim

[wheat heron]

not just aim, it is hard to find quick wick point

there is some trick

[acoustic plaza]

any point that is grey that is reasonably easy to hit then shoot for it

[wheat heron]

yeah i see, but some tanks are to fast aim on me

[acoustic plaza]

learn weakpoints and load premium when needed

blitzkit is a great website you can use in order to learn weakpoints on certain tanks using specific tanks

[wheat heron]

zeah i know about that site, but i dont use gold amo, another question is about how to be red all tank, becouse i see some thank are all red

[acoustic plaza]

load premium

[wheat heron]

how to be red, how my tank to be all red?

[acoustic plaza]

certain tanks have more armor than others

[summer garden]

So will the armor changes of the new version kpz70 be installed? I waited for the whole version 11.15.

[placid kestrel]

What you mean bro

[fallow lance]

Btw rest in peace Skoda t27 being a tier 9 is worst decision

[scenic olive]

Nobody played that thing anyway😂

[signal dagger]

I do

[weak stump]

invisible ram says otherwise

[scenic olive]

Well I don’t like the skoda t27 so wg nerfed it for me😒

[fallow lance]

I feel like that tank will receive a lot of module dmg and crew dmg

Driver will be exposed 24/7, 100% will be driver dmged

[paper dust]

If the Škoda T 50 is anything to go off of, the T 27 should be fine-ish

[scarlet karma]

Maybe add a shell to the clip if damage not buffed

[paper dust]

Also, FV4202 needs a turret buff. I go hull-down and can’t block very much unless it’s a troll bounce. Not unusable, but meds in general at high tiers need proper rebalancing.

[fallow lance]

I think the FV TD will have so much fun using HESH on Skoda t27

[paper dust]

4005 doesn’t have hesh

[summer garden]

I mean the armor of kpz70. It is announced that it will be strengthened, but when you enter the game, the armor is only 150, it should be 175.

[paper dust]

Hulldown gng

[fallow lance]

You know very good which FV I meant

[paper dust]

I just forgot lol

[mossy pollen]

The 4202 has plenty of turret armor and shouldn’t even have as much as it does. The forehead is almost completely unpennable with gun depression, which the 4202 has in spades. If you are getting penned hull down, good. That’s a skill issue. The best defense a medium has is not it’s armor, it’s the mobility to pick any position it wants, including ones that don’t let it get shot at. Peek when safe, and rotate when threatened.

You want to play a medium with better turret armor and gun depression? Play the pattons. The M48 and M60 are both phenomenal tanks. You don’t care if it has gun depression? Play the 121.

[uneven turtle]

Or just play e50m and be able to do everything :)

[bitter terrace]

Delete fv 183, it's very stupid when 44% player sitting on resp half battle, only for give you shot for almost all hp and then dye

[sharp fossil]

is the is3 finally gonna be good again or is that hull buff not gonna do anything?

[muted rampart]

It will surely help, but i doubt it will be anything outstanding

[paper dust]

How is it a skill issue when I’m doing it right????

[mossy pollen]

If you were doing it right you wouldn't be getting blasted every time u go hull down. You can't just sit there in front of people with a medium and expect to not get penned at least some of the time.

[paper dust]

I guess

[mossy pollen]

Mediums are by far the highest skill check of any class of vehicle

Heavies are a test of how well you can bully other tanks, lights how well you can harass the enemy but mediums sit in that weird middle ground where they must harass things that can bully them but bully things that can harass them.

[paper dust]

Hmm

[sharp fossil]

did they buff the 122 mm on the is3?

[muted rampart]

They did

[sharp fossil]

but it still has a 8 second aim time

its the same as before

[paper dust]

8???

[muted rampart]

You sure you've got all the equipment and provisions?

Judging by the 14s reload i doubt it

[sharp fossil]

this is like without any, but i checked yesterday and it was still 8 seconds

[charred vigil]

Approved mechanics

[muted rampart]

Well, i remember there being a bug a few years ago where they buffed the tank, but forgot to change it's stats in the garage. Maybe they did that again

[sharp fossil]

oh so if i buy it its gonna have the correct aim time?

also the kv4 aswell has this bug, the reload and aim time are the same as before

[hexed yew]

M-V-YOH's traverse speed is kinda mid ngl

[grave vault]

Full tier IX rebalance when.

[red haven]

I still enjoy. Currently on my way to almost 3 mark the tank but that on movement dispersion is not it. And a long interclip autoreloader like in pc would be cool

[brisk cedar]

I am trying to work myself into the discussion. Are there any tanks atm that need balancing where the community at large agrees? Not just single personal opinions? I am thinking about tanks like Destiny back in the day. Or Smasher where players often ask for a nerf. Or the 183 (I think) being too op and therefor spammed too much.

[lime swallow]

yeah currently its like
160mm my ar se

[lime swallow]

i think the bz 176 is one of them
seen a lot of people requesting a rebalance of the gun

[brisk cedar]

And I always need a reason why. Like what is the issue with the tank

[paper dust]

The TVP T 50/51 needs a slight buff to the magazine reload. 18 seconds feels a bit too slow for a 3 shot gun.

[cinder shard]

From what I've seen across channels, there has been a lot of talk regarding the Bz176 being generally not enjoyable to play. The main issues seam to be a bit of everything. Slugish mobility, weak-ish armor, low and unreliable damage output.
(Some new discussions about especially E75 TS and Skoda T27 possibly looking too weak compared to other T9s
E75 - [turret] armor too weak
Skoda T27 - no real advantage compared to similar tanks) and very many arguments that the 4005 is a little too good right now because of reliable damage output with high alpha.

There is more, of course, but those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

[placid kestrel]

I think everyone would agree jgpz e100 is the worst tier 10 in the game.

[grave vault]

BZ-176 is mainly liked due to it's 160mm. gun.

The armor and mobility can stay. But I expect something more, damage per shot rather than damage per minute.

Like, maybe try making the alpha 640×2, still keeping the magazine. But maybe nerf the reload to 29 sec. to "balance" it.

[grave vault]

The tank became reasoneless to play after the remove of the Tungsten.

There is tanks like 183, FV4005, and plus it seems that we're close to getting the BZT-70 too...

[placid kestrel]

Nah trying to buff with tungsten doesn't make sense, TDs needs repair kits either way.
Get a more accurate gun, better reverse speed and better armor.
Buff the roof.

[grave vault]

I get it all, but bro, roof?

[placid kestrel]

Obviously

You can't face hug in the german super heavies

[grave vault]

Oh the engine bay.

E 100 also has something like that, so I gues we can't do much about it.

[placid kestrel]

You can always go through the roof, it's just that the majority of players don't know

Of course you can, like buff it.
263 is the same thing, you need to buff the roof. A YOLO TD that can't face hug has no point.

[grave vault]

Obj. 263 is a short tank though, you can't facehug tall tanks.

Though I get it, some tanks do deserve buffs.

[lime swallow]

alright i'll uh list em out

1. the gun damage is not equivalent to its caliber
   it is supposed to be a 160mm gun, but it only does 560/490/690 per shot, which is even lower than its 152 counterparts (say the kv2's alpha per shot)
   there are too many tanks and tank destroyers which can do 560+ in tier 9, the bz's alpha is discrepant to its description AND cannot compete with tanks of its own alpha league (does not stand out) (is not fun)

2. the clip reload and intra-clip reload of 8 seconds are too long
   it is not realistic that enemies would be exposed for 8-second spaces for the bz to put both shots in
   we know, this is to balance out its relatively huge punch (560), but it is just unenjoyable and makes the clip itself inneffective in outputting damage
   the large reload, 23.54 seconds, is also simply too long for the clip's potential damage (1120/980/1380) and acts more like a penalty onto the 8 second long intraclip
   (like firing once and u gotta wait at least 8 seconds for another chance to shoot at an exposed enemy-- that is, if they are even there and have not relocated ; if you miss the shot, its a 24 second reload)

3. the mobility
   Adding onto its penalty-like reload and inaccuracy, the bz's traverse and reverse are too slow for it to even return into cover or respond to close range enemy maneuvers in emergency situations
   the top speed and power-to-weight are reasonable for a tank its size and firepower, but there are no redeeming factors for when you have fired both of your shots and is left with a long reload, hence making the tank easily vulnerable in (absolutely) most situations

4. the armor
   well, honestly, this is not that big of a problem as the bz shares a similar playstyle with the caliban
   you're expected to deliver a (relatively) large punch, but as a penalty, you have lower protection. However, as this tank has horrendous firepower, an armor buff to the turret cheeks is (i think) deserved.

thanks wg devs, if you are listening.

[grave vault]

Like, Idk., gng., Lesta balances the tanks so good I'm actually going to lose my mind.

[grave vault]

(or, they can make it OP and sell it in the lootboxes, like how they did on the Erich Konzept.)

[lime swallow]

wg pls sell char mle 75 and make the prices sky high

[grave vault]

We have the BZT-70 first. 🥀

5m. for one tank. 💔

[lime swallow]

hey uh
if ur free, do u think my points are valid

[grave vault]

The BZ-176?

OBVIOUSLY BRO.

That tank DESEVRES more attention. It's a Legend tank like the WT auf. E 100.

It needs to do the damage that 160mm. deserves.

[lime swallow]

yeahhhhhh les gooooo
thx bro :D

[haughty vault]

give jgpz e100 super speed boost

[lime swallow]

make it a light tank

[grave vault]

@lime swallow I got a WILD idea to rage-bait the non-BZ-176 lovers.

Let's keep it as a magazine, but improve the alpha to 640 and keep the 8 seconds intraclip. Nerf the reload to 29 seconds to balance it.

It actually would deal more than 800 alpha single shot, that takes 32 seconds to reload.

I'm actually a genious.

[lime swallow]

ugh i wish it can deal jaegeroo levels of damage
terrorize t8 tanks
give it 2 guns lmfaooo

[grave vault]

For real. Make it like 116-F3, since that tank has two guns.

But that is too good for them to comprehend.

[lime swallow]

erich konzept treatment

[grave vault]

Bro, two BZ-176 platoon.

One of them has the singleshot barrel and the other one has the magazine. 🥹

[lime swallow]

bro what is ur username in blitz

[lime swallow]

That would be awesome

[hexed yew]

Idk

Tier IX is the most forgoten tier

[red haven]

Tier XI when

I want taschenratte and t803

[grave vault]

Only in lootboxes.

[obtuse rover]

Hi not sure if everyone agrees with this but I’ve seen it a couple times.

• Chief MK6 add 2nd gun (old APCR gun)
• Vickers Light add 2nd gun (old HEAT gun but if possible with the higher alpha maybe 330 like bc)

These tanks are actually good right now but I feel that we should be able to choose whether to have a pen gun or hesh gun for both of these. (Also personally I liked them more before with the pen guns but that’s just me)

[rotund dew]

nah nah nah, give bz-176 6 shells, each shell deals 450 average damage, give it a tungsten, and a reload between shots for 1.9 seconds so u can always punish the enemy, the magazine reload time, i would say it needs to be 40 seconds because of 6 shells, make it have 28 average speed and 39 maximal speed so it could have better mobility, and then as were done, give it a bigger hull armor and change the ammorack's place right at the back of the turret. (W/L ragebait?)

[grave vault]

0/10 ragebait.

BZ-176 is a Legend tank because of it's 160mm. gun.

It should get 160mm. gun.

Not 90mm. autoloader.

[rotund dew]

160mm autoloader. how does that sound.

[grave vault]

640x2.

[rotund dew]

640x6.

[grave vault]

70 seconds reload.

[red haven]

6x640
Autocannon

[celest light]

E 75 TS is bugged cannot enter "ready" status in training room, also im not sure if this is a mistake/bug on wg's part or blitzkit but E75 TS's side armor is only 40mm for some reason, according to blitzkit.

[grave vault]

I'm down. Add it, I'll show you what I can do.

[rotund dew]

hear me out. bz-176 with waffen's legendary gun.

[grave vault]

570x3, 3,5s. intraclip... seems fair.

I'm down.

[rotund dew]

"me: a 570x3 gun on bz176, Hell yeah.
bz-176#2491:what are u watching?
me: a 570x3 gun on bz176.
both: hell yeah"

[grave vault]

Hell yeah.

[rotund dew]

Hell yeah.

[heady dawn]

alr alr hear me out fr on this one

640 alpha, 6 second intra-clip, 35 second reload

[red haven]

640 alpha gun with 780 alpha hesh that is all you’re gonna get

[paper dust]

I noticed that weegee silently buffed the 59-16

Damage went from 160 to 170 (DPM is now 1,635)

[floral horizon]

Did FV215B 183 get nerfed by any chance? I can feel that the gun is not as accurate as it used to be after the update

[paper dust]

I hope it did

[pulsar aurora]

It didn't the only change it had was -10 meters of view range in December

[paper dust]

That’s it??? Needs more than that to be considered a proper nerf.

[floral horizon]

owh shi then its a skill issue

[pulsar aurora]

Get better at the game overtime and realise it's the easiest tank to kill and avoid

[paper dust]

The humble 1000 damage while completely invisible:

[pulsar aurora]

it has abysmally trash concealment after firing dawg

[paper dust]

Not in my experience playing meds

[obtuse rover]

yo I think the bc25t need HE damage buff to 390

[fallow lance]

Looool you can't play Skoda t27 game won't let you 🤣

[jagged crown]

That was always the case

[paper dust]

I could have sworn it changed

[jagged crown]

I noticed the 170 alpha when the tank was released

[paper dust]

I guess I forgot lol

[unique scaffold]

guys if you saw it please do not fall for it

[deft void]

You people imagine if the Löwe had an optional 15cm gun from the Rheinmetall Borsig Waffenträger since there was supposedly a heavier version of the Löwe? (historically typing) Ngl even if the gun was pointless it would be fun

[fallow lance]

Is it possible that Centurion Action X might get released in wotb?

[paper dust]

It’s already in Blitz

[fallow lance]

What do u mean it's already in blitz I never saw that thing

[paper dust]

The Action X has been around for years now

[fallow lance]

No that's the tier 8 heavy tank

This is the tank I meant

[placid kestrel]

Action X the tier 10 med

[regal rampart]

give E75TS Gear oil and Tungsten, it's too slow and alpha is terrible

[muted rampart]

Or just balance the tank the normal way

[verbal ledge]

the tank has good armour

BTW the type 62 HE feels very nice

If any of u guys have it try the type 62

[fringe verge]

Buff maus gun handling

[supple hawk]

What abt turret cheeks

[brisk cedar]

Moin Moin

[uneven turtle]

Buff lion’s top speed pls

Feels too sluggish for a medium that just barely outdpms some mts even with tungsten

We have mediums that hit considerably harder while having almost the same speed(if not more) and has better armor

121B, wz 121, e50m, m48 Patton, m60

[south helm]

Moin? Ostfriesen boy? 🙂

[granite flint]

ive been playing lots with mostly two tanks, obj 777 II and obj 268, 777 NEEDS a better turret armor, it gets penned without difficulty, and 268 also needs back the old armor it had, it gets penned by pretty much all tier 10's standard shells

[terse cairn]

Give it combat stabilization. Maus is the tank which really needs it and can actually use it properly

[sly quarry]

Kpz 70 should return to tier 9 it's absurdly weak since it's been a tier 10 I just returned after a few months and came to play it and that's my opinion or atleast buff it

[deft echo]

day 61 of asking to buff E 10 alpha from 400 to 425 to mimic E 100's stock gun, buff the turret armor in exchange for its traverse rate because I feel like having a fast turning turret with the exception of armor basically getting penned with standard shell feels irritating even when angled, same goes with the annoyingly big lower plate weakspot being basically hard to hide, which also need a buff, along with its hull traverse rate being slow as heck

day 54 of asking to buff FV201 (A45) alpha from 160 to 165 and make the ammorack have more hp, it always gets crit but never blows, buff its max speed to 35 or 40 km/h and its average speed to 29, its versatile yet slow like the black prince, and since the turret is the only thing that actually has armor give it at least -9 degrees of gun depression, give the upper plate and the frontal turret a little bit more armor and lastly, pbr.

day 30 of asking to buff amx 30 prototype alpha from 310 > 325 because I feel like it kind of needs that T10 relation a little bit more, like the Leopard PT A having similar alpha, and buff its pen from all shell types just a little

day 16 of asking to give TL-7-120 a reverse speed buff, add gear oil and improved gear oil provisions, because aside from the mobility being actually good especially with max speed boost, reverse speed is actually painful to bear especially when you're retreating while trying to hold the enemy off from pushing

[paper dust]

What is its current top speed?

[haughty vault]

buffing top speed won’t help it if it’s power to weight feels too little for it to get to its current top speed

[uneven turtle]

It’s power to weight is generally ok, but it’s top speed is lacking

[paper dust]

What’s the top speed then???

[uneven turtle]

I don’t know why you keep asking me when you can literally see it yourself in game, but it’s 52kmph

[paper dust]

I don’t own it. Also 52 is plenty fast. It’s just slightly below average, and it’s got a great gun. Doesn’t need to be faster than that.

STB is 56, 4202 is either 55 or 60, TVP is also 56 iirc

[deft echo]

buff skoda t 27 alpha to 265

[paper dust]

Ultimately not a huge deal tho because they’re not always moving at max speed

Top speed is great until you realize you don’t need it/can’t use it consistently (ie; Ru 251 with 80 kmh top speed)

Bro is typing a whole book

What could bro possibly be typing

[uneven turtle]

52 is slow for something thats unarmored (except its turret which is only moderately armored)

We have the kpz 50t that has much better hull armor and turret armor and more dpm at 60kmph

We have the e50m that can hit for 360, has near ht levels of armor, and can still quite easily reach its top speed of 60

We have the wz 121 who can hit for 440, has some hull armor and decent turret armor, and still reach its top speed of 56 fairly easily, and has TUNGSTEN
-# and reactive

We have the 121B who can hit for 380, has ssb, STRONG turret armor, decent hull armor, and has a base speed of 56

We have the m48 Patton which has much better turret armor, and still be able to go the same speed of 52kmph now that it has gear oil

We have the carro which has a 360 alpha 4 shot auto reloader with good turret armor that can go 53kmph and that’s without gear oil, which it has,

[wicked quest]

Considering it’s a worse leopard without the speed no that is a pretty big deal, even the Murat is faster

[uneven turtle]

There’s just so many other harder hitting mediums that is faster than the lion

[paper dust]

What gun does it have again? Was it an autoreloader?

[wicked quest]

Lion is an auto reloader like Carro iirc though its dpm is still weaker than autoloading meds

[uneven turtle]

Oh yeah can’t forget about t62a as well

Go figure

[paper dust]

Reserve Shell?

[paper dust]

The T-62A hasn’t been relevant for years iirc. Really dated tank.

[uneven turtle]

I think you should keep up with the times cus t62a is back in the game

Solid dpm, extremely reliable turret armor, deceptively strong upper plate armor, has one of the better gun handlings for a med, has a top speed of 55 with solid ptw, as well as super speed boost

[paper dust]

I’d hope so considering the state of high tier meds

I’m just saying that top speed isn’t what makes or breaks a medium imo

[uneven turtle]

Definitely not, but lion could use the boost

[paper dust]

Idk. The Prog 65 shows how annoying a fast autoreloader can be

The only t9/10 meds that seem to hold up well rn are tanks with autoreloaders and clip guns (though admittedly I have enough success with the STB and 4202 but they still feel lacking at times)

[uneven turtle]

Exactly, and it doesn’t even have the reserve shell mechanic, which means you can do a full clip dump and back into cover as well as having 350 alpha?

Lion while having a 340 alpha with tungsten, can’t dish out the same damage output a prog can in a wider variety of situations, because it struggles to get to more advantageous positions

Should also add prog has a 3 sec intra clip while lion has 3.33, while having 350 alpha in comparison to 340

“Oh but it has tungsten!”

Long term consistency over short term bonus is what I’ll say

[paper dust]

The Lion might be better suited to sniping then? I know the STB is despite the similarities in stats to other meds

[wicked quest]

It’s aided by having annoying armor

[uneven turtle]

-# auto bounce upper plate

[wicked quest]

In comparison Murat which has abysmal terrain values and generally bad P/W has 60kmh and a very reliable gun

[uneven turtle]

And hits for 780 in 2 seconds might I add

[paper dust]

Murat is a different archetype tho

[wicked quest]

It’s proof high speed isn’t all that bad there’s literally no reason for the lion to be as slow as it is when it’s a copy of the leopard

[paper dust]

Archetypes are something that Blitz needs to put up like on the original game. It would make a lot of bad teams better by telling them what type of tank they’re actually using lol

[paper dust]

Balancing tends to offset logic in this game for whatever reason

[uneven turtle]

Leopard also has a faster reload at 370 alpha than lion using its optimal second shell at 340 alpha

[wicked quest]

Even the Carro is faster which has the highest magazine output of the mediums

[paper dust]

Leopard is also a glass cannon sniper med

[haughty vault]

lion has 3k dpm but prog has 2.7k, i still perform better in prog because it doesn’t have the reserve shell mechanic 😭

[uneven turtle]

I wouldn’t even say the armor buff of the lion’s turret is enough to turn it into a proper frontlining med

[paper dust]

Hulldown, not frontline

Expecting a high tier med to frontline is your main problem there. Most of them are built around hulldown/peekaboo

[uneven turtle]

That turret armor is still incomparable to meds like the 50M and 48p and 60p

[wicked quest]

Something you can’t really do with that speed, other meds will reach said position first

[paper dust]

Hulldown doesn’t need any speed though?

[haughty vault]

i think lion would perform a lot better if they remove reserve shell mechanic for it and have its first shell reload for 9-10s instead of the current 14~ seconds

[paper dust]

The Super Pershing is a great example btw

[haughty vault]

ts a whole different tier bru

[uneven turtle]

Has anyone told you how mid super Pershing to begin with

It can compete with sta-1 for being the most mediocre t8 med

[paper dust]

And a different type of med sure but it’s still good at hulldown innit

[haughty vault]

cheeks/hatch are easy to pen with prammo, any tier 7 can do it with enough pen

[paper dust]

Whoa there pal. STA is a great sniper wdym

[uneven turtle]

Might as well play the cent 1

[paper dust]

Archetypes. Very important!

[paper dust]

Not impossible to get around that tho

[uneven turtle]

Lion is genuinely a nothing burger of a tank, there’s meds out there that can do its job and more while also feeling more comfortable to play

[paper dust]

Then go use those

That’s what people tell me when I say the 4202 needs a slight turret armor boost

[uneven turtle]

The whole logic around, “that exists, use that instead” is arguably one of the worst arguments you can bring up in a chat centered around balancing, and making sure that alternatives can actually be good alternatives

[paper dust]

Ultimately it’s up to WG sooo

[uneven turtle]

Genuinely baffling to hear

[paper dust]

Eyyyyy

[uneven turtle]

👀

[paper dust]

Lmao

[haughty vault]

i love having a med that camps for the whole game because they have a “sniper” archetype

[paper dust]

Sniper med isn’t like a sniper TD gng

Sniper med: Mid range, move around to find good spots while still being close-ish to the team.

Sniper TD: Long range, hide in bushes, and deal massive damage from afar.

All I’m hearing is that y’all use every med in the same way and get mad when it doesn’t work every time

Not you btw @uneven turtle

[uneven turtle]

The turret armor buff for lion honestly did nothing big for it, it’s supposed to be a support medium like leopard 1, fast, can get around positions to support allies quick, while also having the dpm to quickly pick off opps, that’s what your autoreloading gun and tungsten is for

But now that it has some semblance of turret armor, you’d want to bring it up to a more close hulldown position, but due to that, you realise that you’re coming up against more armored mediums and hence to struggle to put out damage and make the best of your tungsten,

but because your top speed is untouched, if you play second line, you may be able to support the first position you take well. But if you run dry on teammates to take the brunt of the attack while you pick the opps off, relocating to another ideal position is going to take some time considering you’re tied with the slowest(top speed wise) medium in tier ten, the M48 Patton which has 48kmph base but 52 with gear oil

Leo 1 on the other hand, you know what you want to do, you don’t consider hulldown because you clearly don’t have the armor for it, you second line, you have a gun that has pin point accuracy, railgun shell velocity, and supreme dpm. Now when your duty at the position you first took is done, you can much more easily get to the next position because for one, better ptw ratio, coupled with a top speed of 63km(without gear oil)

The lion is meant to be an auto reloading alternative to the leo 1, but it just doesn’t fit that description

[paper dust]

I don’t think it is. Just because the Lion is a leopard variant doesn’t mean it needs to be the same-ish

What’s it like on the original game?

[uneven turtle]

Of course, but it just is lackluster in both the support role and hulldown role

-# I realised how much my original message was gonna say and I got lazy

[obsidian socket]

petition to increase A.P. AMX 30 alpha by 20

[fallow lance]

Then dpm of amx 30 would suck and tank would be incredibly bad

[sharp fossil]

did the is3 get fixed yet?

[bronze rose]

Why did they make the Skoda T27 IX???? It was a good tank for silver grind

[fallow lance]

Does anyone know when the auction will show up in blitz?

[tranquil delta]

Give felice reactive armor and buff the accuracy and interclip

[dusk mountain]

Buff 4005s reload to 16.8 seconds, buff the alpha to 800 damage and give it more turret armor.

And buff it’s hp to 2300

[tranquil delta]

I agree. The 4005 survivability is also terrible. give it sandbags and reactive.

[dusk mountain]

Honestly I think 800 alpha still isn’t enough too so give it tungsten also.

[grave vault]

Just make BZ-176 have 800 AP + Tung.

[dusk mountain]

Nah they gotta nerf the alpha to 300 and give it no turret. Just make it a td

[grave vault]

Yeah, FV4005 is also being too much.

Nerf it's alpha to 300 and nerf the hp. to 1650.

[dusk mountain]

Honestly in the state of the 4005 rn tho it should be down tiered to tier 6. Like 1300 damage clip is not enough for tier 10

[tranquil delta]

Exactly. Buff its armor to compete with the tier 6 pen values

[dusk mountain]

^^^^ Take notes wargaming

[lost maple]

Buff maus HP to 4000

[tranquil delta]

Took the words out of my mouth. Give it reactive and buff the frontal armor by 100mm.

[dusk mountain]

And nerf it’s reload to 4 seconds to compete with the gsor

[lost maple]

Give WT auf e100 6 Shells with 560 dmg and make his reload 1 minute,also buff his accuracy,thx for the coperation

Just like in Pc version👍

[deft void]

I fully agree with this opinion, Kpz 70 still feels weak, like it doesn't even have the advantage of higher alpha and better reload, not even tungsten allows it to be better, personally I would make it so that it has 620 standard alpha, buff the premium penetration and also give it better acceleration and maybe give it -9 degrees of gun depression so it could work Ridgelines better since urban flat areas is definitely not what the Kpz 70 was made for

[tranquil delta]

I agree. Can we also give it hesh that competes with the pen values of the chieftain

[paper dust]

Y’all got me STRESSING HELP

[dusk mountain]

Why? Do you not agree with us?

[lost maple]

620❌
700✔️

[paper dust]

4005 needs a buff. And the buff is that it gets removed from the game :P

[tranquil delta]

I think every critique is incorrect in this case. The kpz should stay in tier 10. However, its armor should be nerfed so that all mediums can compete with their standard pen. The alpha should be nerfed to 350 as necessary. The gun depression should be nerfed significantly to balance this against light tanks. I don’t agree with your opinion thank you for your cooperation 👍

[dusk mountain]

What game are you playing? Clash of clans?

[lost maple]

Nope,It needs tungsten bc his dmg potential Is not good, also increase his HP to 1900

[deft void]

Then make it a light armoured heavy but give it better mobility almost as a medium 😭🙏🏼

[lost maple]

And i forgot to mention that It needs his AP standard back

[tranquil delta]

Agree his mentality is not suitable for this discussion

[deft void]

Minecraft

[dusk mountain]

I agree. His game knowledge is like a rock

[lost maple]

I thought It was my little pony

[deft void]

Yeah I'm gonna play that too it's peak trust

[dusk mountain]

Yea maybe play that game instead of blitz little buddy 😭🙏

I think mommy needs to tuck you in lil boober

[lost maple]

Facts👌

[dusk mountain]

The only way I could do that was if you had to do a little more work and I would be happy with it but you have a hard day and you don’t want me working on your day so you don’t want me doing that so you can get it all over with your own thing I would be fine if I was just trying not being rude to your friend or something but you don’t want me being mean.

[wet sleet]

Is there a way I can talk to a dev

[lost maple]

Yes,call them

[dusk mountain]

Yea u can call them at 911

[wet sleet]

Would do that, but can I discuss non tank related things here

[dusk mountain]

This isnt 2nd grade lil chud

[wet sleet]

I was wondering when wg gonna give 120fps to MacBook pro users

[deft void]

Then go to either general Blitz discussion or off topic depending what conversation you're aiming for.

[dusk mountain]

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TALKING TO MY CLIENT LIKE THAT!

[wet sleet]

There no help either ngl

[dusk mountain]

Ikr.

[wet sleet]

What's the point of this dev answer channel ts shi is 3 years old

[lost maple]

Fv 183 should probably have 1750 HESH dmg,1200 Is kinda meh

[dusk mountain]

LMAOO ikr this server suh

[wet sleet]

There is no direct contact with devs..

[deft void]

183 would be in good hands if that thing was a premium tank atp 🙏🏼

[lost maple]

Nope,thats totally wrong

[deft void]

Yeah they might even get angry if you try to dm

[wet sleet]

True, make it a premium, increase the alpha on hesh while give it trash accuracy

[lost maple]

It should be free, everyone deserves free tanks👍

[wet sleet]

And put badger in tech tree

[deft void]

I mean FV4005 is already a devastating glass canon WE don't need another high alpha td more like a assault td

[wet sleet]

The 183 doesn't make sense at all so the 4005 can take the 183 spot

[lost maple]

Ofc we Need,thats why It needs 1750 HESH dmg

[deft void]

Maybe, I was also thinking that the Alligator 205B from lesta might be a good option

[lost maple]

Also buff 4005 aiming time,its trash

[wet sleet]

Lesta is actually 30 steps ahead of wg

[lost maple]

Lesta Is Just built different

[deft void]

Fr they're already introducing the Double barreled mechanic

[wet sleet]

And rockets and cool stuff which idk

[lost maple]

Yep,WG should add LV 1300

[deft void]

Lesta is already developing flying tanks while we're discovering fire 🔥

[wet sleet]

Russian sees the wg version of blitz as a pre alpha ngl

[dusk mountain]

Add helicopters to blitz

[lost maple]

Nukes are better

[wet sleet]

Lesta latest Christmas reward tank is a tier 10 ms1 with 11 shot autoloader, let that sink in

[deft void]

Don't get me wrong but BZ 75 should have been like the one from WoT PC, having a single 15cm gun instead of 2 options

[lost maple]

Its Crazy,WG needs to put It in blitz too

[wet sleet]

They would never do such thing promise me

[lost maple]

They would,Trust me

[deft void]

Closest thing we're getting is the Tesak tech tree

[wet sleet]

Maybe, In like 10 years from now on

[lost maple]

10 Days Is better

[wet sleet]

I wish

Is reforged really gonna happen or it is just flop

[lost maple]

Also JG pz e100 needs 900 alpha and tungsten,800 Is not good

[wet sleet]

No need for tungsten

[lost maple]

Yes,It needs

[wet sleet]

At this point it's practically a 183 with armor minus the hesh shells

[lost maple]

And also It needs 16 Second reload

[deft void]

950 and give it a 17 sec reload like, I feel like a 268 hits harder and let's also remember that the JG isn't even close to be good

[lost maple]

Not 17,but 16,268 needs a buff too

[wet sleet]

Wg just fiddles with dmg values to a point it doesn't make sense anymore