tank-balance-discussion

[meager flare]

Not that bad tool

Come and see by urself ull know that 130mm on kv4 hull is like 170 with tracks

[muted rampart]

It's not a bad tool, you just fail to understand how tracks and spaced armor work.

[meager flare]

I understand dont worry

[uneven turtle]

-# no you don’t

[muted rampart]

130mm is insane thickness fot a T8 heavy hull side. If you add 20mm from tracks on top of that it makes it 150. That's more than enough to stop a lot of shots at even slight angles

[meager flare]

What i wanna tell is that it stops them when it shouldnt bcs of tracks

[muted rampart]

No, it stops them exactly when it should. Just don't aim for tracks unless you are sure you can pen both them and the hull

[meager flare]

Ok come training room ill show u

Best way to tell u

[muted rampart]

I am at the airport rn, i won't enter the game. I know exactly what you mean, but it's just wrong.

Don't blindly follow the armor highlight and avoid tracks unless you are sure you can pen

[meager flare]

Webll compare angles and ull see its not right

[muted rampart]

It is very much right

[compact gazelle]

give attention to the vickers L and give it 340 damage a shot

[ornate warren]

as far as I 've seen and experienced, M103 after the PBR update is no longer is in a playable state.
The tank itself literally lost its meaning due to the indirect effect such as changes to the E5 and the new pbr model of M103.

The tank can no longer rely on its armor on the turret since the turret cheeks got significantly bigger and flatter, combined with the fact that the long bar at the roof of the turret got flatter and bigger, making it 100x easier to damage the tank from its top.

Even worse thing is , the tank can no longer facehug due to the weaker turret model and the turret ring which got ridiculously bigger.

I personally only want to see the tank be relevant again either by bringing back the old model design to the PBR version or a significant armor buff to the turret. and to the turret ring which is just huge at the current state.

after the pbr, I almost never struggled to pen the M103 frontally fully hulldown, even though the enemy is doing all the hulldown tactics they can.

[vestal ocean]

i love e5 and type 71 , like my type 🥰

[pure wharf]

the M103 never had turret armour
even in the pre-pbr it had armour gaps in the turret front

[barren goblet]

You guys forget very fun ammo rack in m103 front.

[little adder]

can we talk about the nc70 ?

don't buy nc70, is a piece of s*it tank, if you do a bounce damage tank you will make the MINIMUM damage no matter the distance

[muted rampart]

It is a good tank anyway. It's just that it's bugged

[little adder]

yeah it's a amazing tank, but bad game mechanic full of bugs

[muted rampart]

They probably didn't even think of that while testing, it doesn't happen that often. They will probably patch it soon

[little adder]

i trust, the tank is insane

[pure wharf]

im not sure this is meant to be part of the armour hitbox

[slate ruin]

a small visor like that is on the chieftain mk6, could actually be a part of it lmao

[pure wharf]

not the chieftain mk.6, the gunner's primary optic is not actually even modelled as a hitbox

the NC70 has this due to some error, it shouldnt have its gunner's optic be an armour hitbox

[final coyote]

I hope they don't ruin the other tanks armor because in my eyes some of the maps have lil to few sniper spots but the thing is the new line of TDS actually aren't paper plates like most TDS where you have to peak out get damaged only to miss a heavy shot

[heady laurel]

It’s a SU-122/130 with Penetration gambling per shot.

every time you shoot a shot in the tank, it’s like opening a snow globe to see your damage

[stiff umbra]

The new polish TD need more gun depression, cannot utilize the armor with 6' degree of gun depression only.

[signal dagger]

I pen that spot in my carro

[fossil marten]

Spot on 👍
I’ve only played about a dozen games in the tier 9 and 10, but I’ve found them to be decidedly average. The mega damage up close is nice but the armour is absolute pants. 6° isn’t enough gun depression to make the armour work, and to get shots you have to constantly expose yourself effectively on flat ground.
Was really hyped for this line of ‘assault’ TDs but am really disappointed.

[muted rampart]

It is more than enough to make the armor work, if anything it would be totally busted with any more gun depression. Both T8 and T10 can resist vast majority of gold shells of their tier when using max gun depression.

It sure isn't easy to pull off, but if it was any easier, those tanks would be insanely toxic since they have no weakspots besides lower plate

[fossil marten]

But isn’t that the point of encouraging close assault type TD play? That they should be able to stand front line trading, which mostly takes place on effectively flat ground no matter the map, because it’s such close proximity? I was thinking the tier 10 would be E3 levels of armour frontally with a larger weak lower plate and little side or rear armour. But the frontal armour is virtually useless at close quarters, at least so far it has been. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I bow to your obviously superior playing skills if you can make 6° work up close. 🫡

[pure swift]

Why should it have E3 frontal armor thickness lol, it's a lot faster and has better traverse speed than a 268

[fossil marten]

I use engine accelerator on both the 268 and NC70 and the difference is 0.68 between them on hull traverse, hardly a huge benefit. On all other speed related stats the 268 is flat better.
As for the E3 comparison, it’s just the impression I’d gained from all the Tubers banging on about the frontal protection so I was expecting it to be a lot better than it has turned out 🤷🏻‍♂️

[pure swift]

I mean that NC 70 has good enough armor taking into account its mobility and firepower. The tank isn't supposed to have impenetrable upper frontal armor on flat ground. I also want it to have another degree of gun depression but something else needs to get nerfed to balance it

[fossil marten]

I would say it’s fine with 230 if it gets 7°, look at the WZ-113GFT, that’s got 247mm on the front with 6° and 650 av alpha. The NC70 with 500 base av alpha plus 40% at close range means c.700 alpha. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[uneven turtle]

I think you’re forgetting the fact that it’s reload is also 10 seconds with cali and provisions

🤷‍♂️

In short, nc has slightly less armor, 50 more alpha at close range(which both wz and Nc70 should be playing at)

andddd considerably shorter reload compared to the wz 113g ft

This my friends, are what we call trade-offs

[plush zenith]

won't let me complain

[cinder shard]

There are paid steps missing in between, that's bugged. (Also wrong channel)

[obtuse rover]

Yes pls not every British t10 needs to have premium hesh, vickers light and chief mk6 became less fun to play for me, yes better in some situations but I miss their old guns

[atomic cove]

anybody talked about autoloaders ? how broken They're ? idk if there's any real tank that can land 5-6 shells in 5 seconds, Shell penetration is comparable to destroyers, excellent armor, speed and accuracy, why? I remember how my first tournament with them was, they would attack all at once to destroy any plan, any opinions?

[muted rampart]

Any tank will be good if you use it's strenghts. Autoloaders are no exception. They can shoot a few times in a short period of time, but then you are free to farm them during their long reload

[balmy vector]

Base aim time is worse (4.7s vs 4.1s), tighter aiming arc (20° vs 24°), shells are APCR/APCR vs AP/HEAT (ergo, more ricochets and penetration loss over distance)
And most egregious of all: NC 70 has a 175mm gun, but the HE pen of a 120mm 💀

I wouldn't be surprised if the dispersion-on-move is comparatively crap, too

[uneven turtle]

Half of those issues you mention aren’t even valid, penetration loss over distance? Why are you even shooting from a distance with the nc70

the aim time shouldn’t be too huge an problem as long as you play frontline,

And I’d rather not have a td that can slap me for 1134 alpha on its HE with ease every 10 seconds at close range, much less splashing me for 300-400 consistently (810x140%=1,134)

[dry kraken]

nah, it need buff

[balmy vector]

If you’re playing frontline, either you’re not facing LT/MT at all (the vast majority of <65mm armor unless you find an oblivious heavium’s backside) or you’re being circled by them because you’re too far forward.
Regarding range, you do realize how close 50m is, right? Because I can guarantee the people you’re aiming at will be thinking about it

[winter willow]

eeee

[uneven turtle]

Why would you willingly take the risk of going LT/MT flank in a non turreted gun carrier to begin with?

And regarding 50M range, no it isn’t large when you go ht flank because often you’ll be extremely close to them and even if not, you get 120% damage from 50-120 meters range which is still alot. (500x120%=600, 810x120%=972)

[pure swift]

HE dmg of NC70 is static it doesn't change over distance

[radiant tide]

Buff E3 and E4 TDs (Leave it as it is, but add consumables like Buff, like tungsten on both, and super power on E4 or Reticle, because both tanks are literally the same and are very factory market.

[muted rampart]

Or just don't

[wet solstice]

they are no where near the same 💀

[drifting girder]

https://youtube.com/shorts/oc8HhlcNuOA?si=BEVD9JjljS7JE1eO

[unique scaffold]

The E3 is already op, stop it right there.

[vestal ocean]

Nerf nc70 reload time plzz, 700 dame for 10sec what r u thinking when balance dev ???

[gray field]

seriously nerf the armor on these new tds. you cant even pen them frontally. yah have no clue on how balance works i swear

[gray mountain]

Its less armored than a Foch 155 bro🙏

[vivid holly]

me when eyes:
me when weakspot:

[gray mountain]

Bro is the type of player to give up when he sees a Type 71

[nimble zodiac]

Ok man.

[cursive minnow]

Have you heard of the Foch or the wzgft? Plus the armor is not good against premium shells

[gray field]

I'm referring to the lower tiers. Tier x is decent armor wise.

[cursive minnow]

Most of those tanks are the same still. You can use prammo or get their lower plates

[gray field]

6/7/8/9 is op

No you can't. Tiger 2 can't pen the tier 8 frontally at all

[cursive minnow]

In right situation maybe but out in the open nah

[nimble zodiac]

Be careful with your words here.

Both of you

[twilit flare]

i think they're fine, they need the armour to play aggressively because of the mechanic

[gray field]

My point is that wg released the line and if you can't see the lower plate on anyone of them you cannot pen them unless your in a td.

[cursive minnow]

I can pen the lower plate in the tiger 2 no issue

[gray field]

And when your face hugging it? Lol you can't pen it

[cursive minnow]

Premium shells are available

[twilit flare]

and im sure tall tanks can shoot the roof

[gray field]

Bro go fight against one face to face in a tiger 2 then talk to me

Literally couldn't pen it with pramo.

[gray mountain]

People when its a team game where your teammates are supposed to cover you and make sure people dont yolo

[cursive minnow]

I can and I know I can

[gray field]

Yeah sure.

[cursive minnow]

It shows man

[gray mountain]

People always say this when they have no argument

[gray field]

I know what I saw in game

[cursive minnow]

Ok? What does this prove

You showing a result of a battle not proof you can’t pen it. 😭

Even so if you allowed that td to face hug you you’re doing something wrong to begin with.

[twilit flare]

The polish tds are meant for close combat - it will just eat you alive. shouldn't be right in front of it in the first place. tiger can cut through the armour with premium shells .. be strategic

[gray field]

When they yolo you you don't have much of a choice do you.....

[cursive minnow]

Your fault for letting them do that. Maybe stop them or punish them before they come to you

[gray field]

Lol clown next time I'll stop the other game where the origin player yolod me also

[cursive minnow]

You’re letting them yolo you? 😭

[nimble zodiac]

Consider playing with your teammates so that a yoloing tank has to deal with multiple guns on it

[cursive minnow]

^

[cursive minnow]

Are you using calibrated shells?

[gray field]

so where can i pen that? and i was with 2 other people and they couldnt pen it also, yes i only use cali so i can pen better

[gray mountain]

Cupola, standard
To the right, its literally there

[gray field]

tried that and it bounced

[ivory quiver]

A quick look at the mini map shows no allies are fighting the same tank as you

[gray field]

thats cause they had already died lol

[cursive minnow]

They’re on another side in that ss

[gray field]

point being tho is how strong the armor is even vs pramo

[gray mountain]

Its apcr vs sloped armor what did you expect
Its like trying to HE the sheridan hull

[gray field]

so basically theres nothing you can do against it in a heavy with apcr frontally except the lower plate.

[gray mountain]

The cupola is literally right there but whatever

[gray field]

and i said i shot there and it bounced.

[cursive minnow]

That’s too much thinking for the avg blitz player

[gray mountain]

Try again, its certainly better than trying to hit the hull

[gray field]

lol since when is 59.42% a avg blitz player? on n/a most of the people are 40%-45% nowadays

[nimble zodiac]

48-49% is average. I hope to see them shooting the cupolas and making use of prammo against these tanks

[radiant tide]

...

[unique scaffold]

No, whatever you're going to say the answer is no.

[radiant tide]

E3 was just nerfed, it's not good, it only has armor and nothing else, E4 nerfed the Rotation, and now the two tanks can't be as they were, which in this case are tanks to go to the front line and scare people In the first heavy tank that appears

These two tanks have been forgotten for a long time by Warganing, so far they have only been Nerfed, nothing special or new about them.

You don't need to change armor or anything, just put new consumables in both tanks to improve or at least try to change their performance.

[cursive minnow]

Why does the solution to a nerfed tank have to be to give it special consumables

[unique scaffold]

No

🤓

[humble hull]

I dont think nerfing is the answer nor consumables the tanks can be reblanced to or buffed the fact someon said consumbrls is the answer kida gave me a chuckle not gonna lie thir good yes but i see barly anyone use um they need to manually be triggered to work and if they are ignoring those then a new consumbel would be pointless not to mention the max you can have is 3

[vital topaz]

Fua loco war gaming arruinó el 116-F3 entre los "balanceo" que no sirve y el monton de camperos que lo tienen no sacas maestria 2 ni ay ojala hicieran eso con el waffen que mania de arruinar los mejores tanques

[quick goblet]

English plz

[meager bay]

Can someone explain this damage?

[muted rampart]

There is a bug that causes shots to always deal base damage upon ricochet regardless of range

[cinder shard]

☝️ This

[meager bay]

thx

[nimble zodiac]

Oh it always deals the alpha? So basically assault shells lose the buff upon ricochet? The ricochet -> penetration is expectable for T92E1 :p

[muted rampart]

Yes

[balmy vector]

Judging by the armor highlighting, 8.5s reload, and gun depression limit line (and a few other data points)... you're running the 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/52 with Gun Rammer in this match, not the L/68 with Calibrated Shells.

The 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/68 has no problem penetrating the Kilana frontally with APCR; Enhanced Armor won't even make that much of a difference if you're using Cali

[cursive minnow]

<@&481447501690568709>

[primal yacht]

✅ xyhyzhava was banned.

[waxen geode]

Is the T54E2 a good tank? Worth the 7.5K gold?

[full cedar]

yes

[unique scaffold]

Why was he banned?

[pure laurel]

Fix ur aww full game,loss issue is persisting after switching from wifi router to data,codm pubg others game run fine!

[regal rampart]

Murat needs to buff, Ground Resistance only 85% while 700+ Horsepower, is moving like a HT mobility

[cursive minnow]

<@&481447501690568709> seems sus

[primal yacht]

✅ zeus_berserker_09786 was banned.

[spiral elm]

Why aren't my tanks added to the bottom bar? Is this a bug?

[lone warren]

you have the tank filter on in the bottom right of the image

the filter may be hiding tanks

[spiral elm]

Oh yes thanks

Thanks for the fast help i am so stupid 😅

[ivory quiver]

It’s okay everybody has moments like these at some point

[remote rivet]

i think HE damage of obj bush is kinda too much

u have 3 shells 680 damage and 70 mm pen. imagine what it will do with amx cdc

the only bad think about bush is armor and 5 depression, do you think it will stop it? it has only 20 less alpha then erich that most of you cry about BUT it has 3 shells and 1100 shell velocity, that's better then ho-ri and slightly worse then grille 15, funny isn't it?

[muted rampart]

It's slow, it's paper and it's gun angles in all 4 directions are absolutely terrible. It also has 4 seconds between shots. It seems fairly balanced

[remote rivet]

it is fairly balanced but i think alot of ppl in comunnity will cry bc they get eliminated in 8 seconds fully

not talking about lights being that can get 2 shotted by it

[muted rampart]

Well, this is the case for any high alpha/high clip potential tanks.

[velvet pewter]

So the Type 5 Heavy is way bigger and heavier than the maus, but when we take a look at gravity mode, the maus does twice the damage when ramming, and, in a 1v1, destroys the Type 5 Heavy. It doesn’t seem logic tbf.

[knotty wadi]

Improved modules on maus and not type 5 assumed, set the vehicle up correctly maybe if using in gravity.

[clear shuttle]

the type 5 should out ram the maus considering it weighs more

[velvet pewter]

yes, it « should »

[velvet pewter]

I have these

[pure swift]

On the first survival row choose the 2nd equipment instead of the first

[velvet pewter]

but the first reduces ram damage 🤔

[polar hemlock]

Ram damage towards you but to your enemy no

[velvet pewter]

well its good because a maus can destroy me already

[uneven turtle]

You aren’t getting rammed to death by a tank that goes less than 25kmph on average while driving a tank that struggles to achieve a 27kmph max speed the moment you need to turn even slightly, in addition to the mass difference of each tank being only 12ton

[plain mason]

Buff this tank armor for the love of God

[full cedar]

bro asking for a tier 6 rebalance

[plain mason]

7*

I can't even see anything really good in that tank besides the damage, as compensation for that armor

[sleek valley]

Nerf the dam Type 5 Heavy. That thing is camper heaven and the bane of my existence.

Two Type 5s camped in the back and soloed half my team by sniping

[ivory quiver]

My brethren are many and come in many sizes and shapes

[uneven turtle]

That seems more like a skill issue on your team’s behalf

[odd remnant]

if you're losing to camping heavies that's a skill issue

[sleek valley]

I'm in a Sheridan wth... my poor medium teammate got steamrolled bc of them while I only slapped a 500 and ran

[pine yew]

Nerf the hell out of the FV215 B 183, most players are performing like 40% with this tank and still playing and losing with it even they play rating battles with it, It’s a team based game if one tank performs bad the chance of winning is low, last couple of battles I check the winrate of 183 players just what I mentioned 40% or lower in some cases ( they have tier X tanks in there garage with a winrate of 60% or higher and they don’t play it )

[pure swift]

The tank is just weak people play it for only one reason

[tacit tiger]

Give it reticle calibration

[barren goblet]

Give it apcr because it's best. I only want the best for 183.

[granite valve]

We have annihilator on tier 7, it'd not balanced tier

[tacit pelican]

WG needs to stop making people spamming the type 5 because now literally every single game always have a type 5 and the player who plays it sucks

[ornate warren]

it had which was better than the current one , even though it was not a reliable one. it was possible to make it work with certain tactics ( peak n shoot , or wiggling , barrel blocking... etc )

if we think of like almost impenetrable turret armor aspect , then pre pbr E5 also had no armor since the cheeks were pretty much easy pen with gold (even AP in some cases ) combined with the bigger cupola ( not the tumor sized one , the fixed one before the pbr )

What I m saying is , I used to bounce way more with the turret than the current pbr one. there is a significant change on the turret cheeks which are now pretty much worse. I also proved it to myself since I literally didnt struggle that much to pen the M103 frontally in the turret compared to the old version.

[plain mason]

Collector tanks will always be strong, but Ju-To's armor is an almost extreme case, and there is nothing in it that makes up for it. And yes, I know nobody cares about low tiers.

[plain mason]

I mean, just having a tank with slightly better penetration makes it impossible for you to do your job, which you were never even ok at (Tiger for example)

[fresh crane]

There are quite a few collectors that suck

[modest cape]

buff is-4

[cinder shard]

Would be cool if you could add some context for the devs.
Why should the vehicle get buffed/what is weaker than it should be compared to vehicles with similar playstyle and what sort of a buff could the tank recieve.

[fresh crane]

Just buff the accuracy massively
If you want to keep giving it a 💩 gun give it good hull armor or higher alpha

[coarse furnace]

Yeah so, why?

[fresh gate]

yk there's a reason hardly anyone plays the IS4 anymore right and if you guys can't depict that it has terrible armor values mixed with terrible gun depression (ya its Russian) but the gun depression doesn't do anything for the frontal hull armor its paper now to other heavies

[final coyote]

The T-34 really needs to have some things changed about it such as its rate of fire along with its meta of course you can play it hull down but somehow it lacks a lot of other things as well

To be honest it's older then dirt and to be fair with newer tanks coming in such as autoloaders or ones with higher pen and a improved reload it doesn't sit anymore near like it used to

[final coyote]

You can still do good in it if you know what your doing

[fickle tinsel]

nothing burger statement

[final coyote]

Dang really

[fickle tinsel]

yeah

[celest light]

what happened to Gowika? did wg forget to give it armor? where is its armor?

its the new worst tier7 td. Even worse than the Amx ac 46, that thing has better armor, mobility, and gun.

First the armor dosent work, which is suppose to be its main selling point.

• its upper plate is 93mm, HE shells from 152 guns with calibrated can cut through 1/2 times.
• upper structure has corner cut outs that are weak no matter how you angle it, at 130mm at best, even hiding one side.
• lower plate is big and weak at 150mm but is expected IF IT HAD GOOD UPPER PLATE ARMOR, which it dosent.
• cant hull down because of -6 gun depression, large weak upper/lower plate, weak corner cut outs.

Second thing that follows "good armor" is slow mobility, this thing drives slower than an e100.

• 32 top speed is ok for something heavily armored, but its not
• 12 reverse speed is absolutely horrendous, you cannot back out from anything with that non existent armor.
• the weak sides rubs the salt in, if you wanna get a shot in you're gonna have to take a shot yourself.

Lastly the gun, which is wonky.

• 2300 dpm, basically the lowest for tier7 tds.
• 360 alpha, hits harder than 310(which normally comes with high dpm), but with hideous dpm, and gets out traded by 400.
• mid on move dispersion along with no armor you dont get time to aim unless you're willing to take a shot.
• .362 dispersion you have to run refined gun.

Jpanther has 2700 dpm, better armor, medium-tank like mobility.
Amx ac 46 has 2800 dpm, BETTER ARMOR, and also, better mobility.

Please buff its armor, fix the corner cut outs, make upper plate 225mm thick. make the 45mm sides thicker so it dosent get penned all day.

[fresh crane]

For me the worst part is the absolutely horrendous accuracy

[celest light]

yeah if its gun was atleast accurate it would've compensated for the tragic armor, but wg decided its gonna have neither

[fresh crane]

And the fact is that it isn't only bad, it's basically unusable

[celest light]

yeap, i wasnt joking when i asked if wg forgot to give it armor, because thats seriously how it seems, its like its balanced around IF it had impenetrable armor except its lower plate. but its not there

[uneven turtle]

Honestly it’s accuracy it’s pretty nice, on move ofc it’s mid but it’s not really a huge issue

All it really needs is either turret traverse buff or shorter reload time

[fresh crane]

I wish I could say the same
My experience is that it gets distracted and shoots ghosts

[uneven turtle]

I actually still run vstabs instead of refined and it works better

But then again it could just be placebo effect

[celest light]

, left is amx ac46, right is gowika

[fresh crane]

Like this is the problem with tds
For a turreted tank you can poke with you gun facing the right way and not lose too much accuracy
For tds you have to turn most of the time before you shoot
And the traversing gives you diabolical accuracy
Best example of this is the foch 155
On paper it's accuracy seems meh but usable
But in reality it's the least accurate t10 I've ever played, even compared to the 183

[fresh crane]

Didnt have a good experience in the amx 46 either lol

[celest light]

yeah, thats says more about how weak the gowika is

[uneven turtle]

Personally I think that 0.277 disp is overkill, 0.326 is decent enough and it’s the aim time that needs to be reduced and it’s quite a nice gun to use afterwards

[fresh crane]

Yea that's why I run vstabs on the foch
But the accuracy still kills me

[sand jolt]

Is it me or AP shells in Type 5 are inverted?

[nimble zodiac]

A few tanks have premium shells that deal more damage at the cost of penetration, such as SU-100Y, ISU-130, Tankenstein (though that’s SU-100Y’s gun), and of course, Type 5 Heavy

[mystic gorge]

IS-4 isn’t bad lol. The only thing is truly needs is a massive turret traverse buff

[fresh crane]

In that sentence I wasn't calling the is 4 bad, I was calling the t7 polish tds accuracy bad

[terse cairn]

Just bring back the old IS 4 before 10.3. Currently there is no point of driving that tank when you can drive 113 or 777. If you want a fast tank then drive 260

[uneven turtle]

There’s no tank like the is4 when it comes to turret armor

[fresh crane]

Just gotta wait for it to turn

[viral harbor]

Can you rework all useless tank just like wot2.0 ? I can count 100 useless tank from tier 5 to tier X

[ionic kraken]

Nerf calibrated shells already, make the players learn how to aim for weakspots instead of switching to heat and going through well armored fronts with no effort

[balmy vector]

IS-7 >

[marsh grail]

Yes exactly. Like why change equipment in the first place . It was actually good before. And heavies were actually fun to play and get bounces . But not anymore. They need to nerf cali and nerf all pen .

[short tundra]

tank balance? first create legendary camo for project murat. it been long time

[tranquil willow]

The Lorraine 40T needs a nerf. 20 seconds of reload time is excessive. 15-16 seconds is more reasonable.

[prisma jetty]

Do you mean a buff?

[nimble zodiac]

Number go down must mean nerf

Lorraine does need something going for it. A long 900 clip is just not working well for a tank like that

[tranquil willow]

I second that. It's still a good tank but the long reload time is painful especially when you're in the line of fire and can't defend yourself aside from taking cover, provided that's even a viable option.

[uneven turtle]

Is7 turret isn’t as strong as the is4

[balmy vector]

Yes, when IS-7 is weak it’s definitely weak. But the bar to pen is higher, and IS-4’s weak points are larger and more numerous

The only place IS-4 wins objectively is the rear; from the front I’d much rather be fighting a hulldown IS-4 than a hulldown IS-7

[uneven turtle]

Is7 cheek weakspots are actually larger ahem

In actual gameplay is4 has a better turret since its cheek weak spots are closer to being a vertical line so moving back and forth will make it much more difficult to get a shot in

Whereas is7 has a more horizontal cheek weak spot

While yes, the is7 has a high penetration threshold to overcome in able to penetrate the turret

The is4 remains roughly the same regardless of if you have just enough pen or even overwhelming penetration capability

Hori running calibrated on prammo

See how much the is4 turret remains red?

Whereas is7 has much much larger weakspots

Bless BlitzKit for existing, armor profile becomes so much easier to analyse

[thorny timber]

Month 6 of asking the same CS rebalance:

+5% on ap
+8% on HEAT
+10% on apcr
+8% on HE

[balmy vector]

Mediocrity is “roughly the same” in all situations by nature.
If it had clearly defined 10mm-thick spots in the middle of 500mm overall armor, yeah the picture wouldn’t change no matter what was shooting you. But that risk of being penetrated by an MS-1 kind of defeats the whole purpose of having a 500mm plate to begin with

[uneven turtle]

My point is that is4 holds up the same in any situation, it’s an extremely sturdy turret to any tank it comes up against, making it one of if not the best turret in the game

There’s not a lot of tanks in the game which retain a similar armor highlighting when coming up against something like the hori

[balmy vector]

Most flexible ≠ best
When you’re playing against competent people who know how and where to aim, the best defense is to simply remove their options

[uneven turtle]

Actually being flexible is one of the key points that dictate a tank’s capacity

If you’re good and you’re using something that excels in one area(in this case is7 requiring a high penetration threshold) then that’s where you’re strongest at

But should the penetration threshold requirement be met, then it’s mostly down to skill to make your turret work

Is4s case however, has a turret that retains essentially the same armor profile regardless of having mid to insanely high penetration, so no matter what you do with the turret, you’ll always be at your best

[fresh crane]

From a 100% accurate point of view, no

The only tanks that can maybe come close are the 60tp and tier 9 fv4202, but it doesn't really matter
You're never going to get penned in the turret in an is 4

[terse cairn]

Concept 1b, e5

[uneven turtle]

Hatch and hatch

And splash damage, which is4 isn’t as susceptible to

[terse cairn]

IS 4 only has the turret armour and a bit of mobility (only when using super speed boost) . 777 will do the exact same role with better hull armour and sidescarping capabilities

[uneven turtle]

Is4 can sidescrap too idk what u on about, and its mobility does just fine even without ssb too, since it can reach its top speed fairly easily

[terse cairn]

It can but not like how it used to do. Just load gold. You can pen its corner cutouts very easily

[uneven turtle]

Reverse side scraping what you should be doing

turns your tank into a rear mounted turret

[terse cairn]

That's even more ineffective

Reverse sidescraping suits more for the 260 cuz it has better reverse speed and hull and turret traverse

[formal timber]

Quetzal need a buff on rotation

[fresh crane]

It needs a buff everywhere

[muted rampart]

Month god knows which of asking CS to be permanently removed and replaced with something else because it ruins penetration/armor balance to be ruined leading tanks to be overbuffed for no reason

[iron junco]

Buff CC Mk 2 stock engine + suspension

[uneven turtle]

CS honestly isn’t a bad addition, the bad part rn is just how big of a crutch it is

Also doesn’t help that gun rammer was nerfed

[muted rampart]

Doesn't matter what you do, CS will either be Broken or Useless.

If the buff is small enough so it doesn't make a difference, it is useless. If it's big enough to make a difference it by design makes it broken since some parts of armor which are suposed to work, just don't.

Armor values and penetration values should be impossible to change, since even smallest fluctuations in them can make or break a vehicle

[marsh grail]

Why is the meno so horribly inaccurate for a TD with only 490 alfa .

[cinder shard]

Isn't really supposed to be played as a traditional td, rather like a heavy with limited turret traverse.

[marsh grail]

If only it had like a little better aiming time.

[limber timber]

Wg pls buft the maus like lesta did,the 50b is now using gold and it cant not even pen the maus and btw it now have 3300 hp

[uneven turtle]

Now that’s not healthy

[cinder shard]

Yeah, I'm thinking the same. Little buff to the upper hull and possibly 5 to 10 mm on the turret maximum, but it really doesn't need to be a "hold W, shoot the enemy and win" tank

[odd remnant]

Top performing heavy tank in the game
Community asks for a buff anyways

????
Maus is more than good enough right now, it does not need any buffs

[fickle tinsel]

then it needs a rework so they can buff the armor. buffing the gun and nerfing the armor was so dumb. people play the maus because they want to play a heavily armored tank, made absolutely no sense that they reworked it to be less of what it should be. if people wanted dpm there's other tanks.

[wanton berry]

We fr rn?

[odd remnant]

the current maus is insanely fun because you can hold W, angle a bit, and shred other players
I would not want a maus that's completely reliant on the enemy not tapping the 2 key or completely toxic against tanks without high pen rounds
HP based balancing for the maus is significantly more enjoyable to both play against and with in its current state
if players want superarmored heavies, theres other options, like the Type 71, Type 5 Heavy, E100, VK9001, and the VK72

Maus takes the niche of a high HP, high DPM, landship and it's quite a unique playstyle as a result

Do you think it would be fun to play with or against lesta's maus?
you have a worse gun so you can't do much to the enemy, and the enemy can't do much to you because they can't even pen your unangled cheeks with 50b gold rounds...
that's hella toxic for the game, and would make the maus even more boring
and what can the maus do against a tank with high pen like a TD or something like a 113?
he doesn't have HP advantage since WG would never give it 3300, and he doesn't have a gun advantage anymore so he can't just shred it and move on

[fickle tinsel]

my point is that the maus should be the super armored heavy. that is the premise of the tank. it doesn't make sense to have other tanks be the superarmored options when that is the entire premise of the maus lol.

i also very much dislike wgs attempt to make every tank versatile like you describe. i do think some tanks, like the maus, should be heavily situational. when you try to make every tank able to do it all you just get a bunch of watered down clones

also that niche is already taken by the e100 now too with the other gun

[odd remnant]

the current maus is counterintuitive, and yeah, thematically it makes no sense, but if they're gonna butcher the maus into becoming a type 5 heavy with a worse gun, they could they please give old maus owners the old fun maus

[fresh crane]

Give maus like 100 more hp

[odd remnant]

E100 just doens't feel the same after they removed the 680 alpha gun, if anything that thing should get reverted

[fickle tinsel]

i dont play lesta so im not sure how balanced it is there but i think it makes the most sense as being legitimately difficult to pen with high hp and pretty atrocious dpm and accuracy. which of course does make it situational and perhaps not the best for pub solo play if you care about consistency but i think is more true to the tank, makes it comp relevant again, and something fun to pull out for the occasional crazy game or toon

also i agree 680 e100 was peak

[fresh crane]

Yea I dunno why they made it 660
Like it barely does anything except make people sad

[odd remnant]

also, from what im aware, WG isn't too big a fan of superarmored tanks that cannot be penetrated without insanely high prem pen
idk if they'd ever implement lesta's maus properly

if they do want to make the maus more armored, my fear is that they'll not go the full way and end up butchering the tank
also, if they want to make armor relevant again, nerf cali LMAO

[fresh crane]

If only we still had commanders...

[marsh grail]

Yes . The only solution is to revert the equipment changes to what it was previously. Like why the f did they ever think it was a good idea to change equipment 🤦

[jagged locust]

I have an idea particular Slovakian and swedish tank destroyers or commonly called TDs Now some of you may not agree on me with this but why don't we go full American tank destroyer and give them turrets for swedish they would have limited turret traverse up to 180° 90 to the left 90 to the right as their gun gets bigger and armor gets heavier they get slower and slower pretty much like the Italian ones for Czechoslovakian they're going to have full traverse as their armor gets heavier and guns get bigger same thing as Sweden though their church traverse won't change much 25° per second because why not and the reason why I came up with this is because why not

Now I know this isn't really the good place to post this but there's no place where I can talk about ideas so I thought why not post it here it's also in the off topic but I know no one will reply to that

[wicked quest]

Because they never did this

And that’s basically a heavy tank at that point

[jagged locust]

Yeah I know that but still at least it was a good try

[jagged locust]

The other reason why this thing exists is to flip the normal tank destroyer idea and flip it on its head like the Americans did

Also yes my concept does include perks that start at rank six but they're mostly harmless either one it's going to be extra camouflage when you're still or concealed movement that's all plus like rank five to six you're going to be still pretty damn fast

[cursive minnow]

Don’t the Swedish have a special mechanic on the pc version? I’m pretty sure they’ll carry that over to blitz so a turret is kinda idk

[jagged locust]

The diagram yeah but still one the Czechoslovakian tanks can have a slower Church reverse giving them a heavy nerf before they're even released or two they're slower The swedish already have a nerve that's being able to only have a tertiverse of 180° but that still makes them pretty damn scary knowing that they can do heavy damage

I hate my auto correction not church I meant to say turret traverse and plus nerve was supposed to be nerf

[strange reef]

fix the assualt shells glitch that makes ricochets deal much less damage at close range

[nimble zodiac]

Doesn't it reset to standard alpha upon rico? Helps at long range

[strange reef]

my shell still did less than a minimum role on multiple ocassions. And that doesnt make sense because the hole thng is "more damage closer" and APCR ricochets then pens a lot. makes the ability kinda useless

[final coyote]

And wargaming thinks these things are balanced look at the ammunition I'm using 🤣

[nimble zodiac]

Yes let's pretend like you're not a lower tier medium tank shooting an enemy at its most advantageous position to block shells

[cursive minnow]

Smartest wotb player strikes again

[final coyote]

That's why I laughed chief I know I'm freaking low tier thanks dr obvious

[cursive minnow]

Sure

[ivory quiver]

Your average ratings team mate

[cursive minnow]

Apparently yes

[balmy vector]

Yeah, it's balanced. You're using a VII MT with a 90mm gun

[cursive minnow]

Apparently he knows “Dr obvious”

[modern heart]

who is Dr Obvious

[balmy vector]

Dr. Oblivious over here

[cursive minnow]

Dr. Confused 😭 🙏

[nimble zodiac]

As determined by the laughing emoji and the image showing a tank in a perspective such that its armor seems ridiculously effective at first glance, this user must be using sarcasm for the statement that Wargaming thinks the Kilana, and presumably the other tank destroyers in its line, is balanced.

While this may seem comically unbalanced initially, it is truly a typical situation that a lower tier vehicle may face when dealing with armored. higher tier tanks. It is to be expected, but due to the second message critiquing my response, I can only assume this player doesn't quite understand the situation at hand, and how the actual nature of the Kilana (and the others in the line) is to be expected of a moderately armored TD in a good position

[strange reef]

I refuse to beleive the Polish TD's arent balanced that reverse speed alone screws them all if you don't play right

[wicked quest]

So ur fine with you embarrassing yourself like that?

[final coyote]

It is what it is man

[final coyote]

Thank you someone actually got it right and didn't take it serious you for understanding

[mystic gorge]

Glad I’m not the only one who realized this. Nothing like being within the <50m range and dealing 400 dmg on a ricochet

[simple trellis]

When will Shermans get pbr

[fresh crane]

He's shooting ghosts lol

[nimble zodiac]

Ain't even ghosts, bro hit a rock and then missed the second shot

[muted rampart]

F

[nimble kettle]

Splash damage needs to be nerfed

[cursive minnow]

?

[clear shuttle]

no

[tepid dagger]

[deft echo]

is it just me or does the FV215b needs an ammo storage buff
because I think for a tank that can reload for 8s less or more its too short
same goes with the conqueror

[meager dawn]

if you shoot continuously it would take you 5 mins 30 seconds to fire all your shells in 215b, maybe in gamemodes where you have reduced reload ive run out of ammo before but in normal gameplay its a non issue

[waxen geode]

Could you name the worst tier 7 tanks please? I'm grinding that tier. I had to immediately sell the P.43 ter i did not liked that tank.

[azure frigate]

p43 ter is really good

[waxen geode]

Really? Then it's definitely a skill issue lol.

[azure frigate]

when its stock, its really bad but once you upgrade the turret and engine it becomes very strong

[nimble anchor]

Dear devs
Plz make premium he shells on tech tree tanks more cheap as it is very hard to grind a line while losing 5 to 10 k credits per game
As a f2p player this is very annoying

[manic flint]

when is reg draws coming i cannot wait to get a tank which i will never play

[plush zenith]

What day does the Sheridan missile return in WOT Blitz? I forgot the date.

[signal dagger]

12th

[fresh gate]

is this satire or ragebait

[regal rampart]

What are the requirements to make notices to the developers to buff WZ-110?

WZ-110 performance issues that i describe:

1. Gun handing is similar to the 122mm gun.

2. As a pike nose frontal armor, it's unreliable to block shots due to terrible armor profile.

3. Mobility is so terrible that it is unable to avoid getting shot as it has unreliable armor as I mentioned above

4. DPM is too low compared to other 310 Alpha

[glass sphinx]

Most likely satire. I think we all would both love, and then immediately despise this. As a player of both tanks, I sometimes also cry when I get halfway to my destination only to realize I must now turn around and spend another 5 minutes doing so.

However I do believe the JgPz E100 could use like, a bit more engine power. It's on an E100 chassis (I believe) after all.

[scarlet yarrow]

GIVE THE AMX 50 120 10 DEGREES OF GUN DEPRESSION LIKE THE AMX 50 B!!!

why does it get 6 degrees? it has WAY more than enough room for 10

[fresh gate]

I think the reason why the Jg is slower is cuz it has a fatter gun it weighs more I believe so

[nimble anchor]

Yessir I'm with u

[fickle tinsel]

i yolo both into enemy spawn so basically

[fresh crane]

Wow that's a very funny meme there

[glass sphinx]

Oh its definitely to do with the weight yes, but the engine technology at the time was easily capable of hauling that much weight around at a much higher speed. Take the Maus for example. Sure im using the WoT Maus as example, but my point stands when it comes to engine power - weight ratio.

[wicked quest]

No?
The 1200 Hp engine E100 and jag uses did not exist the most powerful engines available could only hit 1000 at max stress,

The 1800 Hp engine of maus is pure fiction

[glass sphinx]

"The 1800 HP engine of Maus is pure fiction"

"Sure im using the WoT Maus as example"

You just felt like starting an argument, huh?

[wicked quest]

The maus number is an example

[glass sphinx]

Right. My whole point was that the JgPz E.100 is easily able to be buffed in Engine HP when the Maus is using a literal unicorn for an engine in a video game.

[nimble zodiac]

“the engine technology at the time was easily capable of hauling that much weight around at a much higher speed”

I think this was the statement that dogofwisdom is disputing

[static ingot]

In a game where the Edelweiss can slam into the IS2 Pravda while a smasher watches with a TNMT tank on the sidelines, I’d say historical accuracy is just a fever dream we have from the 2013-2014 era.

Plus If I remember correctly, the Maus had two Daimler Benz engines interlinked to make its transmission work properly, because one couldn’t handle the weight alone. To say the engine technology of the time could handle the ambitions of the tank, let alone the contemporary E-100 or as an added, the T95 when the Americans were trying to handle the Siegfried line challenges… that’s a stretch and even the engineers of all three projects had gone on record during meetings about it being a hard challenge in each case due to weight and pressure on the suspension to distribute the weight evenly. The T95 got add on tracks to help, but it was highly impractical, and the German superheavies were bogged down with technical faults throughout manufacture. I ‘ll have to read through Panzer Tracts 6 and 6-3 again, alongside other modern source collections

[deft echo]

give the centurion I, t 34 2, and su 152 it's pbr already

[glad flower]

Easily the best message in the whole argument

[bold saffron]

Devs what happens with the BZ-75 10 games 8 ammorack no way pls tell wg to fix it

[ivory quiver]

It is a Chinese tank which are known for their weak modules

I suggest you equip the protective kit provision for decreasing the chances of ammorack explosion as well as the Defense System equipment if ammo racks are a big problem for you

[wicked quest]

The propulsion system of maus is unknown the full output, as it used electric drives that needed the power of 2 engines to turn over, the documentation of this was destroyed and only the Soviets were able to put what remained together

[static ingot]

Panzer Tracts 6-3 refers to the 1200HP @ 2500 rpm figure for the maus (p.6-3-47), and the 600 HP @ 2500 RPM for the E100 (p.6-3-72). The maximum known speed of the maus is said to be 20km/h, while the E-100 is said to be 23km/h.

Not saying they're the correct figures, just that they're the figures I have on hand.

[glass sphinx]

@nimble zodiac Maybe, but we're talking about a game, so in all honesty I shouldn't have used the "at the time" phrase at all. Point related entirely to tank balancing for the game.

[unique scaffold]

Buff NC 70 armor it’s paper

[errant dew]

When WG is going to do a big tier X rebalance??? We need something better than this M4 meta

[uneven turtle]

You mean mainly E50M/T95E6

[errant dew]

We need a nerf on MLE and buff on any other tank of the game. Please no MLE meta anymore 🥀 🥺

[uneven turtle]

MLE isn’t meta

It’s just really strong, but there are still stronger tanks

[cursive minnow]

It’s only meta in comps

[terse cairn]

They need nerfs. I am tired of seeing e50m and E6 in every game I play

[fickle tinsel]

I'd rather e6 be the meta tank than alternatives. i remember the peak 113g and tvp days were a nightmare

[terse cairn]

Instead of these stupid meta, can we even have proper rebalance where every tank is good in its own way and nothing is over powered ?

[ionic kraken]

WHEN WILL YOU NERF CALIBRATED SHELLS?!

[nimble zodiac]

Not possible

[wise bluff]

How is e6 even close to meta dawg.. it's not op ff. Mabey u actually need to just get good

[wise bluff]

And gng how is wotb supposed to make money if every tank is basically just the same

[fickle tinsel]

amx 30b deserved its place as the s tier tank in the meta

[wise bluff]

The comp system would be changed and ruined and there would be no point of p2w

Honestly idk why but I think 777 needs a buff.. that tank is so bad if u know how to pen it. And it's legendary camo looks way to modern for only an speedboost

[terse cairn]

777 needs buff? Its bad? Its already very good in its current state. The only weakness imo are the hatch, ammorack and reverse speed

[terse cairn]

Read what I wrote. I am not telling to make everything the same. I am telling to make proper balance otherwise what is the point of balancing.

[austere elk]

Actually true 777 dosent feel the same as other russian heavy tank tbh

[uneven turtle]

777 needing a buff is a take I never thought I’d hear

[fallow eagle]

Maybe a mobility rebalance
Feels like a boat(I know it is, it's annoying)

[marsh grail]

Yes i second this. Revert the equipment changes to what it was before.

[fickle tinsel]

not the fix i think moving like a boat should be the balancing factor of all things. also if you keep buffing heavy mobility that'll just dig a deeper trench w heavies being overpowered as compared to mediums

[fresh crane]

E6 is literally op bruh

Imagine a medium but with 400 alpha, stupid armor and 2300 hp, and more pen, 10°

[barren goblet]

Its op ,but in toxic meta of autoloaders and high alpha tanks, i can live with e50m and e6 as they are.

[upper knot]

@golden lagoon Joe Rogan has no relationship to Blitz or tank balancing. Just posting his name is seriously off topic.

[golden lagoon]

@upper knot why you hating on joe Rogan bruh

[wicked quest]

There’s plenty of valid reasons, but this is a game server

[upper knot]

He has no relevance to this channel, server or game. This channel is for chat about balancing tanks, not whatever you were doing.

[fresh gate]

tbh who would just post his name lmao that's odd bro

[simple trellis]

WHEN WILL YOU BUFF ENHANCED ARMOUR?

[golden lagoon]

Nah I think yall are haters

[cursive minnow]

Ok bye then

[ivory quiver]

Anyway how are y’all liking the polish TDs

[cursive minnow]

They’re nice but the armor on the tier 10 is buns

[modern heart]

honestly it's fine if you can hide the lower plate

[cursive minnow]

There’s some little ports or whatever that can get get penned easily in the front with no prammo and I find that kinda annoying since some person can get lucky and hesh me

[fallen mist]

Honestly been having a blast with the new TDs, already aced the tier 9 twelve times so far

[terse cairn]

Also the corner cutouts are weak and easy to pen in nc 70. Lower tiers don't have these cutouts but they do have hatches which are easy to pen

[fresh crane]

Wz 113 saw me, and did the dumbest yolo I have seen in my life bruh

[flint rampart]

Just buff the spd 57 Gowika, even the t6 has better over all armor somehow

[fresh crane]

And it's gun is middity mid mid

[civic egret]

Hi

How have codes

[tiny sparrow]

Bro all the polish td are op i got 60 % winrate because of it

[uneven turtle]

With your logic, Obj 140 is op, because it dragged me to 60%

[scenic hazel]

Mino yes, nc 70 is like worse gft

[cursive minnow]

The mino isn’t polish tho 😭

[scenic hazel]

Oh mb, they are in same category so i kinda forgot

[civic egret]

Hi

[fallow eagle]

Hello there

[unique scaffold]

Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha

Buff the Ms-1 and move it to tier 5.

[hollow cedar]

Are the weak sides on the front of the SDP 57 superstructure intentional? Seems very out of place considering the rest of the TD line. Just looks like someone confused the side with the front .

[plush bobcat]

Jddbdbsjsj

[coral shard]

Rinoceronte should have 3 shells with the reserve shell mechanic

Like in WoT PC

[meager dawn]

we dont need more 1200 clips bro

[glad flower]

No💀

[frank bone]

No thank you

[thorn notch]

[split zealot]

Hello all

[thorn notch]

Hello

[fickle tinsel]

wz120s fall from grace is brutal. it definitely needs a buff, tanks like the grom mog it

[sturdy solstice]

Yow

[uneven turtle]

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[twilit sparrow]

Hello. Can someone tell me how to play with the charioteer? I keep dying due to its low health only 1140.
It's a Tier VIII tank of the FV4005 tech tree.

[ivory quiver]

Second line

Use bushes or hard cover

Generally do NOT poke when the enemy is aiming at you…almost always they will pen you, while you might not pen them

Ofc when u need to get kills and etc go for it but save hp for the end of the game to use

[scenic hazel]

Buff v4

I like how this tank missing shells at 2 meters

[fickle tinsel]

v4 at t10 and wz-120g at t8 both need buffs. the older assault tanks struggling new polish line mogs.them. badger too with a gun handling buff imo

[plush zenith]

WOT Blitz creators, why can't they change the gold issue, which is no longer 10 but 100, but there will be a 20-minute period available again so that we don't abuse it in two minutes, but if we use it, it would be the same as the 10, but each day with 19 hours? Pls

[obtuse rover]

Nah it’s good as it is

[fickle tinsel]

wg should have a player portal where players can petition for tank rebalances/buffs/nerfs and vote on them

[fickle tinsel]

day 2 of petitioning a buff for the tier 8 wz-120 gft. Imagine playing the wz-120 gft in its intended role in 2025 just to go up against and literally 2 tapped by an sdp 58 or grom 😭 absolute travesty

[regal rampart]

Is the Tier X rebalance confirmed or just a hoax?

[vast fossil]

hmm what would happen if they buff is-7 max forwards speed to become like in WoT?

[nimble zodiac]

IS-7 would be faster

[regal rampart]

If they buff IS-7 speed, they probably nerf some certain area of armor on the IS-7 for the price of buff mobility..

[stuck zinc]

.

[terse cairn]

Then it would just become like a 260 bruh

[regal rampart]

Oh yeah, so buffing IS-7 mobility is a no go, 260 already took that position

[terse cairn]

Same goes to IS 4. We already have 2 soviet heaviums

[clear shuttle]

no they should buff it back to 50kph

[hushed olive]

BZ-176 needs some sort of buff to make it competetive. Current form is quite awful to play.

[full cedar]

no, we dont want a broken heavy Erich

[static ingot]

Something more interesting on this note: The earlier Panzer Tracts 6 (dated 2001, ISBN: 0-9708407-1-3) states a 1540HP at 2500RPM. Either:

• The 2001 source (Panzer Tracts 6) was incorrect.
• The 2001 source (Panzer Tracts 6) referred to a test of only the hull without turret or dummy weight.
• The 2001 source (Panzer Tracts 6) pulled statistics of the engine's stated HP/RPM before it was mounted into the tank chassis.
• The digital scan of the 2001 source (Panzer Tracts 6) is a misprint or early print of the booklet.

I'm currently looking for a physical copy of Panzer Tracts 6 still to verify this isn't just a one-off misprint run from the booklet's initial run, and it's import cost from the US will be between £70-£110 (far more than the £20 that Panzer Tracts 6-3 cost), but it's an interesting contradiction by the same author/artist duo to look into.

History is fascinating with how these contradictions and errata pile up.

[nimble zodiac]

You’re right

Let’s keep it that way

[hushed olive]

Lets not

[manic flint]

its so bad tech tree are better than it

[nimble zodiac]

They should be. Having a high alpha autoloader shouldn’t make it easy to work with. The consequence of having that kind of damage output means you need to put work into ensuring you pull off good damage trades.

[hushed olive]

What are you trading with though? You Alpha output isnt anything special for the tier, especially when the gun handling is so poor.

You know what would make it somewhat bareable? Take off that stupid auto loader and just let me have a single shot.

[hushed olive]

So instead you just want to keep it in the dumpster?

[slender kite]

since when is T-22 medium boucing from star and jg panzer

[ivory quiver]

Since it was introduced

[warm dock]

buff stb 1

[scarlet yarrow]

REMOVE GRAVITY FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[manic flint]

add gambling , here its too much gold

[uneven turtle]

It still is more than viable and is one of the most flexible mts to use?

[warm dock]

buff it

[uneven turtle]

Why should it deserve one??
It’s honestly perfect where it is

[warm dock]

you want to hear what changes i think could be done to the stb1?

[uneven turtle]

No because it doesn’t need any because it’s strong and perfectly balanced as it is rn

[warm dock]

i think

• More DPM
• More pen
• more mobility in general
• +3 degrees of gun pen (but to keep it balanced just remove 3 degrees gunelevation)
• Inpenneable turret and upper hull armor
• more DPM

[uneven turtle]

So is this just rage bait

[warm dock]

buff 907

[limpid lark]

Give 183 tungeston and 15 sec reload but keep its avg alpha

[barren goblet]

How about we give it APCR and keep rest as is.

[limpid lark]

No. Hesh is besht

[strange reef]

whatever happened to the toxique... yk, this thing. still waiting WG...

[strange reef]

maybe WG could add it for the easter egg we worked really hard for in april... just a thought

[regal rampart]

This tank probably appears in Reforge only
Same as Prowler

[terse cairn]

Wg love to add autoloader collectors instead of singleshot tanks

[tepid warren]

Conqueror needs more gun depression. The Super Conqueror has 10°, and the Conqueror has 7°. It would have been at least acceptable if it was 8° or 9°, but 7° is a disappointment.

[fallen mist]

Agreed, it does need a bit of a buff, mostly in the turret armor and gun depression department, everything else is honestly pretty well balanced

[cinder shard]

Honestly, I see your argument of making it more flexible/easier to play with more gun depression, but the Conqueror really doesn't need any buff in my eyes.
It and the Super Conqueror have two completely different playstyles and the Conqueror even has better statistics in a few regards while being a Tier lower. (Better gun and way more mobility)
While it might not have the best armor, the gun is worthy of being on a Tier 10 vehicle.
The combination of stats it offers makes it quiet hard to get right, but also gives it insane damage potential if the player knows what he's doing. The -7° also brings it in line with the T10 of the tech tree.
All things considered I really don't think that it needs any sort of buff

[balmy veldt]

Best game mode sthu

[uneven turtle]

For once I agree with you

[nimble anchor]

Plz make Conway hesh less expensive
It's too hard to grind a line while losing 5-15k credits every game
Give it a p2w of like 20 and top speed of 45-50 to match the other tanks playstyle

[scenic hazel]

Give blyskawica super speedboost or something bro why does this thing reverse at 12 😭

[manic flint]

tungsten for 183 , super speed boost for maus , reticle for obj 263

[regal rampart]

If only WG allows us to pick any kind of consumables for every tank..

[shadow harness]

tank balance is a joke one day k

one day pin what your aiming at next day who knows where your shot going

[shadow harness]

just came of match 2 tanks had sides to me no damage 1 had its back to me like never even shot game needs to be balanced why its this way beats me

not tanks the game period

[ivory quiver]

Smartest blitz player:

[fickle tinsel]

^who i get as my final full health teammate when it comes to winning a ratings game against a oneshot

[regal rampart]

Rank of tanks should have more benefits, not just giving access to rank camos, but give more exp gain or more credit earnings

[dim ibex]

I think Tiger 131 and GUP tiger needs armor buff or lowered down to tier 5. Why? Absolutely 0 survivability while GUP tiger is fun but frontal main armor doesn’t even work and goes same for tiger 131. While a prototype VK36 has workable armor and able to survive hits to front doesn’t make sense for prototype version of main tank to be better and be used in tier 6 tourneys. If not armor buff then maybe move them to tier 5 because they will have more survivability at that tier and make it more realistical where it has to face off against KV1 T-34 sherman.

[wicked quest]

They already do, your facing the versions meant to defeat the tiger lol
The VK 36 got roided out in the past

[cerulean shore]

whats better rn the 252u,k2 or 112-2

[cinder shard]

Probably the K2. Most reliable armor and some decent gun depression

[muted rampart]

I'd say 252u due to alpha, upper plate armor and ability to sidescrape

[muted rampart]

Frontal hull armor on K2 is the worst out of these 3 tho and you can't even side scrape

[prisma jetty]

The 112-2 has worse frontal hull armor than the K-2

[muted rampart]

Debatable imo. Straight up K2 is stronger, but WZ gets it in a much more convenient shape which allows it to use it in many more ways

[cinder shard]

Works to a certain extent + you don't really need to do it. If you can find any little piece of cover for the lower plate or get to use some gun depression, not much is going through you

[prisma jetty]

K-2 also gets by far the strongest turret of the 3, with a 100HP advantage over the other 2

[muted rampart]

Sure, but you can't just sit in the same place the whole game.

252u is much more reliable for me. If they don't see my lower plate, i know i will bounce with my hull. It's more flexible

[cinder shard]

I'd just say that the 252 is possibly a little more versatile and beginner friendly while the K2 does one thing extremely well and can work here and there when doing something else

The fact that I didn't play the 252 in a hot minute could also be contributing to my choice tbf

[languid ginkgo]

Buff the OBJ 268.
This specific tank tree requires about 778K XP which is one of the highest in the game - if not the HIGHEST.
The OBJ 268 has been in the game for a decade now and hasn't gotten much attention compared to some other tanks, I almost never see it in battle which saddens me especially because it is my favorite tank. all I am asking from the devs is reduce the dispersion (still/on movement/everything else) just by a little, enough that it will make a difference in battle. buff it's armor a bit! its almost always penned because alot of players use high penetration tanks these days and can easily cut eight through the 268 and makes the tank feel weak. about the HP 1800 --> 1900/1950 (<-- this one may be over exaggerated). and also, Give this tank RETICLE CALI or TUNGSTEN. oh and a buff to mobility (general/everything) and gun depression 7° --> 8°.

Ik this is an awesome tank already, but a tank dies not when its exploded but when its forgotten, and in that sense, the OBJ 268 is dead.

[ivory quiver]

Weak ragebait

[marsh grail]

Bruh . 268 is one of the best t10 TD's. What are you talking about

[nimble zodiac]

It’s almost like Obj. 268 is such a well-balanced TD that it didn’t need many changes over this extensive period of time

[waxen geode]

Please help. How do you properly use the 45tp habicha?

[ivory quiver]

Play it like a heavium, a second line heavy

It’s armor isn’t reliable enough to frontline and it’s not exactly the most mobile either

Fighting head on is generally not a good idea unless against same tier or lower tier lights and mediums which u can bully with your hit points

[waxen geode]

Heavium, got it.

[ionic kraken]

Buff the BZ-176: Either lower the intra-clip time or overall reload time, so it'd be more efficient

[mystic gorge]

Was… this English?

[mystic gorge]

Absolutely not. If anything, just make the gun more snappy and nerf the alpha to 640. Basically just make it the old 268 from 2018. No reason to give it any special consumable

[languid ginkgo]

Its not about that, do you realise that it took me 1k battles just to get this tank

[mystic gorge]

Should not take that many battles 😭

[languid ginkgo]

alas, you need to spend 800k+ xp bro

[mystic gorge]

And also, just cuz it took u forever to get the tank and it’s not broken to your liking… doesn’t mean it needs a buff

It’s quite literally the best TD when it comes to camo rating. Has the hardest hitting gun aside from the jageroo and 183. And it’s extremely mobile with troll armor

[languid ginkgo]

and how do you feel about the aim??

[mystic gorge]

It’s not as snappy as 2018 268, but that’s cuz the alpha jumped 50 dmg

[languid ginkgo]

I mean tbh bro I completely respect your feelings about this but we all got our ideas

[mystic gorge]

IMO I’d rather old 268 with the extremely snappy gun, 640 alpha. But the current version is just as good just in a different way

[languid ginkgo]

Yo do u play NA mj lets platoon

[mystic gorge]

I can’t rn, I’m at work. Maybe some other time tho. Send a fr

[rapid jacinth]

Back in 2014 it took me 180 battles in su152, 484 battles in the isu, and 460 battles in the 704 to research the 268. This is before x2 bonuses twice a day, and I never had premium.

[mystic gorge]

Cool?

[rapid jacinth]

The xp costs haven’t changed since. I was around 55% wr too

[mystic gorge]

Ok? Yeah the line is expensive. But that’s mainly cuz there’s less modules to research.

[uneven turtle]

First off, naming and shaming, secondly, you aren’t even comparing the right things

You’re comparing the damage your team dealt, to the exp that the opposing team earned

[lime latch]

need mo coffee! thanks

[uneven turtle]

And this isn’t the right place to talk about things like this btw, it’s more suited in general blitz discussions

[fair kite]

Hi guys

I want a tank to be more equitable in the meta i sent the debate here?

I have many proof and a very good text to prove that the tank need buff

[cinder shard]

Sure Would be cool if it would include the parameter that is weaker/stronger than it should be, how the tank performs compared to others that have a similar playstyle and what about the tank could be changed to balance it

[fair kite]

I send here?

The Carro 45t is easily one of the weakest Tier X mediums in the current meta of Blitz. Its biggest problem is the low penetration — at 240 mm, it’s almost impossible to reliably damage the Tier X heavies you constantly face. As a medium tank, that’s a critical flaw: your main role is to deal consistent damage, and right now the Carro fails completely. Increasing the penetration to 255 mm and like 270 with the boost / upgrade ,would make a huge difference, making the gun actually usable without breaking the game.

Another major issue is HP. Currently sitting at 1850, the Carro 45t is extremely fragile and dies faster than it should. A small buff of +50 or +100 HP (bringing it to 1900–1950) would make it far more survivable and give it a chance to actually contribute in battles. Combined with penetration, these changes would finally make it feel like a Tier X reward tank that is worth grinding for.

The rarity and cost of the Carro 45t make this even more frustrating. It’s insanely hard to obtain and very expensive, yet it performs worse than some Tier VIII or Tier IX tanks. Meanwhile, the E 50 M is much easier to get — almost everyone can obtain it without huge effort — and it’s still vastly superior in every way. It makes no sense that a rare, difficult-to-get Tier X tank is weaker than a widely available one.

The E 50 M is basically god mode: amazing armor, high survivability, reliable gun handling, and strong damage. It’s far stronger than the Carro 45t in every way, which makes the rare, hard-to-get Carro feel almost useless by comparison. Either the E 50 M needs a nerf, or the Carro 45t needs serious buffs — starting with penetration and HP — to finally make the two somewhat comparable.

Summary: The Carro 45t is rare, expensive, and hard to get, yet it underperforms in the current meta compared to common tanks like the E 50 M. Its low penetration and fragile HP make it almost useless in Tier X battles.

Sry for the length xd

[clear shuttle]

can we delete tier 10 and add tier 11

[fair kite]

?

[clear shuttle]

they should add the breaker and KR-1 to blitz

[fair kite]

Why no mod reply me?

Dev? Helpers?

[jaunty ridge]

You have 3 x 380 alpha... Thats nearly 1200 potential clip dmg, up to 1520 if you dump your reserve. You have 2700 dpm on optimal shell index. If you can't farm dmg in a carro out of all things it's unfortunately just a genuine skill issue on your part.

[timid zinc]

https://gpgames.us/wotfreegold

[glad flower]

Carro was obtainable multiple times, once for around 15€

Its neither rare not expensive

[jaunty ridge]

It reads like a gpt response ngl 😭

[cinder shard]

Honestly, I see that the Carro might be a bit hard to play and of course not as strong as the E50M, but that's mostly down to the fact that the E50M is the best T10 medium right now. If anything, the Carro could get a minor buff to its ground resistances. Other than that I feel like it is fairly well balanced and doesn't overperform like an E50M

The closest thing that the playstyle could be compared to would be a Progetto 65 or Lion. In my eyes, both of those are worse than the Carro

[glad flower]

My message? :(

[jaunty ridge]

No no no. I meant his

[fair kite]

When i say rare it just you can have normally you have to spend irl money or wait much time and farm allot

[glad flower]

Its probably gpt translated, looking at his other messages it surely seems like it

[glad flower]

So basically your point is “make the collector op and nerf the f2p tank”? Wow, where could that possibly go wrong

[fair kite]

Yes nerf a little bit cause it too op and yes buff a little bit so it good in the meta like add him 100hp and like 10 or 15 penetration

[wicked quest]

When was it available for that much money, history wise it was the most expensive T10 ever it appeared for direct sale in 2023 only for like 30k gold

[fair kite]

Who

[cursive minnow]

I came for $30 with the camo not that long ago if I remember

[glad flower]

It was in one of these “passes” at some event, it was like 16,49€ in my currency

[glad flower]

Yea, also pretty cheap

[fickle tinsel]

stopped reading at carro one of the weakest t10

neither player testimony nor data backs that up

[terse cairn]

If you are thinking that Carro is one of the weakest mediums then it's a huge skill issue. Carro is already one of the best mediums. It has almost 1200 clipping potential ( not using reserve shell) or 1500 dmg if you use all the shells. None of the mediums have such high clipping potential. Also it has 2800 dpm with singleshot. It needs skills because anyone who knows how to properly penetrate it easily. Also you will need to know how to use the gun properly and effectively.

[fresh crane]

You are the reason the average iq of a person has remained 100 ever since it was invented over 100 years ago

[modern heart]

idk i think the carro is pretty mid

[fresh crane]

"Carro being mid" might not agree with everyone but still is an opinion that makes sense
However "carro being one of the worst t10s" makes no sense at all

[modern heart]

it's not one of the worst tier 10s but i don't think i can put it in the better half of tier 10 meds, just off the top of my head id much rather run E50M M48 STB CS63 T22 140 and 907

[fresh crane]

Especially when you look at the buffs he supposed

[fresh crane]

That is a good opinion
According to BlitzAnalysiz.com in every negative statistic there are at least 20 tanks doing worse than the carro

[modern heart]

i definitely think a lot of tds are struggling right now as well as a few particularly bad tanks in every class

but i haven't looked at the website that's just my own subjective experience

[glad flower]

Sounds about right

[mystic gorge]

Gonna be honest carro and e50m will most definitely get a nerf. Both are way too potent in their own field

[glad flower]

Nerf carro more and its a decent t9👍

[scenic hazel]

carro is alright, nerf the t22

[sturdy junco]

Only the turret armor a bit

[mystic gorge]

Not really, the clip is still way too potent

It’s still the best tier X clipper med rn

[modern heart]

tbf thats a pretty low bar, but you have a point

[marsh grail]

Why is it that other game mods last for one week. But gravitizing lasts for only 3 days ??? Really wg

And then it they give you skirmish next 🤦🤦

[ivory quiver]

[mystic gorge]

I 100% agree with the current state of the game. But that doesn’t detract from the fact that it’s a 50b that’s half the size and way more maneuverable. There’s a reason people spam it in ratings along with e50m

[modern heart]

50b is also a low bar 😂

[junior gate]

give 50 b old armor and 3 shot

[wary saddle]

Give 3 shot as an option, this gun is way more effective🙏

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[mystic gorge]

I wish

But they won’t

[fiery axle]

buff the tiger 2s base damage up a bit the dpm on the base is horrible and is just a downgrade unless u get th egun

[abstract fern]

It is still better than t52e2 shark (same 310 alpha, but Tiger loads faster), DPM on Tiger 2 is just fine

[fiery axle]

yea but the base damage before the gun upgrade feels like just a downgrade tbh

[abstract fern]

Stock modules are always not that good, I most of the time research modules for free exp

[fiery axle]

idh free ep (not alot)

[abstract fern]

This game is pay to progress, but I feel like you can reasonably spend some money on battle passes, got resources like boosters and X5, then you can make exp faster

[fiery axle]

i already payed abit but im kinda poor so im gonna thingk of getting the pass next month

[waxen geode]

Dumb question. Is the Yoh line completely garbage or it does have some good tanks?

[cinder shard]

I'd say most of the line is decent to okay-ish.
They are not the strongest, but also not at the bottom of their respective Tiers

[waxen geode]

Thank yoh!

[silent snow]

[nimble anchor]

Hhhhggghiiiiiiii guys

[fringe berry]

There are slow games and fast games.

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[fiery axle]

the tiger 2 needs buffs its so bad

it makes me cry cuz its so bad and locks the E100 tree

#bufftheTiger2

[uneven turtle]

It’s a strong t8 my brudda, it’s actually quite obvious you’re trying to rage bait here 😶

[fiery axle]

bro i hate it so mouch wdym its so bad its so trash

[uneven turtle]

It has a trusty gun, decent mobility, and has good armor with great side scraping potential

[fiery axle]

BRO WDYM

[uneven turtle]

😶

[fiery axle]

i literally cant play it without dropping my WR to 0%

[uneven turtle]

You’re making it more and more obvious you know?

[fiery axle]

bro i dont get you 😭

[uneven turtle]

No one’s gonna take your argument about tiger 2 being bad seriously.

[fiery axle]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzer-kv-2-gif-14163050716108143358

[cinder shard]

You're driving a stock tank without any equipment or premium shells, of course that's not going to be enjoyable.
I'd advise to always save some free xp (the orange xp) for modules so you don't need to play tanks without any upgrades.
Just because a stock tank is bad doesn't mean that its top configuration needs a buff.

[fiery axle]

i dont know ways to get free xp good

[cinder shard]

Playing with free xp boosters, premium account, premium tanks and not spending it to research tanks

[fiery axle]

it has premium shells...

[uneven turtle]

Not in the picture you don’t🥀

[cinder shard]

Evidently not

[fiery axle]

thought you ment the whole tank doesnt have them not i

[nimble anchor]

Pls someone it says I was swearing but I wasn't
I promise
What can I do?

[fickle tinsel]

You're done for.

[nimble anchor]

I dont get it pls someone explain this???

[fickle tinsel]

You aren't younger than 13 by chance are you?

[nimble anchor]

Nope

[fickle tinsel]

🤨

[torpid shuttle]

Привет

[wispy sentinel]

Когда 30 дней према и 2500 голды начислят?

[waxen geode]

Guys another dumb question. Of the tanks that I can get with pins (Skoda T27, KPZ.Pr 68, FV201) which one is the best. I have 6K pins.

[frail elk]

Does the Mau5 Tank currently being offered for $69 have the interchangeable auto-loader barrell with it as well as the single shot?

[magic pike]

If u're f2p, the only tank u can get is fv201
otherwise, skoda t27 is a good tank, but kpz sells for gold

[obsidian basin]

Когда

[waxen geode]

Thank you! There's 9 days left. I need 1K more to get the Skoda.

[obsidian basin]

Тоже немагу получить

[odd remnant]

yes, it has both guns

[muted rampart]

It has both guns, but this offer is terrible. Last time it was sold for like 15$

[upper knot]

I've sent you a dm explaining it.

[elder pine]

Вечер в хату

[quasi panther]

Fv201 a45 is broken

[ivory quiver]

😂

[velvet cypress]

183 need old hesh alpha

[nimble zodiac]

Still crazy that you can outtrade an E3 with an HE splash

[cyan parrot]

[dark oar]

Only when you aren't the enemy's punching bag (learned from experience of blowing its ammorack for the 139th time)

[fresh crane]

He is lol

[hot adder]

Что тут

[abstract fern]

I have one rule - never ever play stock tank on random games (edit: just in case you don't get - just play fun modes. Just a few days ago you had gravitixing where you can get so much exp - especially with x3/X5 and boosters... Moreover in gravitizing lack of engine is less painful)

I was surprised by number of dumb players who played stock Destiny on randoms and rankeds, but maybe I shouldn't

[abstract fern]

https://tenor.com/view/impossible-shocked-unbelievable-really-dont-believe-you-gif-23942028

And no prem ammo... And no camo...

[latent copper]

It’s overpowered it needs an on move dispersion nerf

[stuck flint]

Devs, please tell me how did you guys made the rating mode points system. 3 times in a row. HOW!??

[grizzled trench]

Devs hear me out

Give is-4 either 280mm of slopped upper hull and nerf it's dpm and accuracy or give it 3.2k dpm and Buff it's turrent rotation
Nerf E50m, it's extremely toxic just imagine obj 140 vs e50m so nerf it's armor
Buff t62a alpha to same as Lion (380) or make it's upper hull super strong I.e 240mm upper hull and 320mm turrent
Nerf 183 to 900 alpha
Buff Sheridan to have 600 alpha and take away 300 dpm from it but make it agile
Nerf t100lt dpm I can't see a logic to have it 3.4k dpm
Buff 60tp to have 900 HE alpha and take away it's reload to 17.5s
Give Grille 15 640 alpha back and give it 2.6k dpm or give it Tungsten rounds
Nerf 268 alpha to 640 and increase its concealment
Buff e100 to deal 700 damage so it can be alternate to type 5
Or give it tungsten
Give vk 72 610 alpha
Nerf minotauro Alpha to 470
Buff obj 140 to have excellent speed and give it 340 alpha or give it some armor
Buff carro 45t Hp to 1950
Nerf Foch double shot autoloader to have 510 alpha but give ita single shell 660 alpha
Nerf Rinoceronte
Buff Cs63 to have 360 alpha and 3k dpm with 250mm of pen or give it high dpm like 3.4k

Nerf Stb prammo ap Shells to 280mm of pen

Give leopard 1 Apcr pammo
Give E50m ap as standard
Give 60tp ap as standard

[unique vector]

how about no

[weak furnace]

bro is high

[wary saddle]

Keep these

Hidden

[terse cairn]

Give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[fleet depot]

Idk what type of crack your on and i would like to stay 800m away from it

[grizzled trench]

Bruh it's balanced

[fleet depot]

Well yes,but actually no

Tbh at this point a lot of tonks that got overbuffed just deserve to stay that way rn
Especially foch

Plus a lot of these changes kinda just delete the identity of these tanks,like the grile

[fresh crane]

Bro took every hallucinogen ever invented and wrote that 💀

[cursive minnow]

I knew it was bad once I heard grille 15 and tungsten in the same sentence

[grizzled trench]

I mean it's just pew pew

[upper knot]

There is a victory bonus in Ratings and those on the losing team can lose points. The top performer on the defeated team will receive 70% of that bonus. https://na.wotblitz.com/en/content/rating-battles/

[cursive minnow]

And your balance idea is just doo doo 😭 🙏

[grizzled trench]

Except grille?

[cursive minnow]

All of them

[grizzled trench]

Bruh

[grizzled trench]

Y'all hate 60tp

[cursive minnow]

60tp? It’s not even that bad how it is rn there’s no real reason for the HE to be buffed

[ionic kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-never-cook-again-sukuna-domain-gojo-sukuna-malevolent-shrine-gif-13864519526514614028

Type 5 needs more pen... Take away anything, just give me more pen and maybe accuracy in the form of combat stabs

Also, WHY IS THE SIDE OF IT'S TURRET HE-PENNABLE?!

[scarlet yarrow]

TUNNELING NEEDS TO BE A BANNABLE OFFENCE

all it does is ruin the fun that the player being tunneled wants to have

[ionic kraken]

Average autoloader victims:

But yea, it does suck, even tho it has nothing to do with tank balancing...

[odd remnant]

yes, playing the game is bannable, what a great idea

[ivory quiver]

I wonder if he can actually define tunneling in this game

[odd remnant]

just wait till he hears about the 183

[uneven turtle]

Absolutely horrendous changes😭

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[timber schooner]

They sould improve is4s back man tier 6 can easily he it like hellcat can pen is4 back with he and frontally hellcat can pen ap on lower plate

[fickle tinsel]

good thing you don't face tier 6 then

[dreamy tundra]

@Everyone good morning

[scarlet yarrow]

I'm not talking about being shot at in general, I'm talking about actual tunneling, like a player completely going out of their way to shoot me and absolutely no one else, and killing themselves, but in the process they completely ruined my game, and now I have to play like a total wimp for the rest of the battle

[scarlet yarrow]

I know I'm going to be shot at in the 183, that's an occupational hazard

[odd remnant]

thats not, and shouldn't be, a bannable offence
there are valid strats that involve getting rid of a tank deemed strong for the map, and trading one for another is ok
is that also bannable?
if thats bannable, is focusing someone without yoloing also bannable?
its a slippery slope you're arguing for

straight up childish behavior to ask for bans just because someone ruined your game without breaking any rules

[dry vine]

I think maus should be buffed on cheeks and nerfed on hull it will make things better

[terse cairn]

IS 4's back is over 100 mm thick

[dry vine]

That's the point they should buff is4

[terse cairn]

Just bring back the old IS 4. That's it

[dry vine]

I hope they listenin

[fresh crane]

I'm just as confused as you now (about the HE weakspot)

[mystic gorge]

Or we could just… you know… buff the alpha instead of making tanks inherently reliant on a consumable to have the same affect!!!

[fresh crane]

Grille just needs a gun handling buff

[mystic gorge]

Schizo rant

[fresh crane]

Careful
I got muted for using medical conditions to describe stuff

[mystic gorge]

Nah grille was objectively better with 640 alpha and the same accuracy

[scenic hazel]

I better see they nerf e50m, t22 and t100 to the dirt on december

Shericringe too

[fleet depot]

Random tank mechanics ideas i have that no one asked for!

1. Suppressed Firing
   Congealment does not drop when firing(for LTs or maybe even TDs)

2. Blind shells
   When shooting an enemy,their vision will get blurry(as in the screen of the shot player will have a blurry effect for few seconds,making it hard to see)

3. APFSDS (cuz why not)
   The damage of the shell depends on how far the shell travels through the tank,so if you shot a maus frontally and the shell went through it all the way

It deals a lot of damage
While if you shoot like a e5 cupola or smth,it does low damge

Which one is yalls favourite

[cursive minnow]

1 no
2 nah
3 Extreme no
Imo

[odd remnant]

1/2 are horrible
3 is doable, but probably not great for blitz's design of prem shells

[fleet depot]

Idk how else the other 2 would be balanced tho

Without them being "Overcomplicated'

[cursive minnow]

We just don’t add them!

[fleet depot]

Ofc but what if they were added

[uneven turtle]

Suppressed firing would be ridiculously overpowered

3 idea would require more coding

Blind shells is also gonna be pretty over powered since you can snap and retreat back into cover with increased safety

[lapis halo]

Since there will be tier 10 rebalance please, just please buff the armor on the maus, it needs it.

[unique scaffold]

guys, listen, in 3 or 2 days it will be my birthday, I want a gift for myself in this blitz, one tank and all T-22 Wed. about. 907 B121 M60 Badger Chieftain Mk. 6 and that’s it, so I want one of the tanks I listed and advise me which one of them

[cursive minnow]

Huh

[nimble zodiac]

He wants to know which tank to get himself for his birthday.

I personally don’t like most of them, but also people give Badger a hard time even though I like it.

[opaque flower]

@unique scaffold happy early birthday! ... The Mk.6

[unique scaffold]

I would like a badger and one of you would give it to me, but... THIS IS LITERALLY A MAD IDEA FOR MY WHOLE LIFE I'VE BEGGED YOU TO GIVE ME A BADGER THIS IS A FULL PERFORMANCE AT THE CIRCUS AND ALSO THE FACT THAT I AM A BELARUS CITIZEN I CAN'T AFFORD MYSELF TO BUY A BADGER AND YOU ALREADY KNOW WHY I DON'T I CAN BUY MORE THAN ONE PRODUCT AT WOT BLITZ

[fierce gull]

@wooden lynx

[unique scaffold]

Waht?

[wooden lynx]

No Badger for you, I stole your Badger

[unique scaffold]

I cheated you I didn't have a badger

[wooden lynx]

Exactly, there was nothing to steal

[fierce gull]

Toon stole it, and attempted to incorporate it into every strat imaginable

[unique scaffold]

I’m already bad at learning English, I’m a Russian-speaking person

[upper knot]

The game already has something like that. When a shell penetrates the hull it will travel a distance of 10 times it's caliber (the 10 caliber rule). If hitts s an internal module (fuel, ammo, engine, gun) there's a chance it will damage the module, reduce the tank's effectiveness or even destroy it. It can also hit a crewmember and reduce the tanks effectiveness.

In real life a tank can continue operating with holes in it. It's the internal explosion and shards of red hot metal that cause the serious damage. You can see engineering simulations of this in videos such as the one below.

https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15412/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WosItccNCds

[upper knot]

@unique scaffold This would fit better in #platoon-search. That's where people look for someone to play with. You can also post in #clan-search, join a clan and find new friends to play with. Be sure to mention your server (EU, NA, APAC).

[mild parrot]

the Caern defender is insanely pathetic rn. it's just an emil with less alpha and worse dpm

two ideas, the second of which is the "fun" idea

1:
reduce the intra clip to 2.5 secs, or bring the alpha up to 310.

simple as that, would make the tank worth playing alongside tanks like the Emil or M3Y.

2:
bigger rebalance.
shells in clip - 4
dmg per shot - 225
intraclip - 2.5sec
clip reload - enough to put the dpm at 2000-2100 (without vents and small food)

[deft void]

Buff AMX CDC 🙏🏼🙏🏼 I know it was given a upgrade around 4 months ago but that didn't save a lot about it, like neither PBR or even a more consistent gun, it has a 90mm gun but has worse bloom and on moving dispersion than a Chimera? Ok

[scarlet yarrow]

Noob MM is not real and it never truly was, at least not the Noob MM WG says exists in the game

[stoic island]

Yet another comment on the poor current MM, and the experience of individual players NOT being taken into account for the MM - as well as the MM NOT taking into account the individual tank set up (ie auto loaders and auto reloaders) when creating teams.
I have just been in a quick 5v5 battle where the reds had 4x50%plus players (and 2 were 60%+ with over 60k games each) and the greens had me over 50% and 40k games, with the rest under 48% and under 5k games.
We also had one auto loader (me) and the reds had 3....outcome predicted from start... We lost by a proverbial mile - and I was top scorer.. But I am nowhere near good enough to carry 4 players.
If this was an occasional occurrence, then it would be acceptable, but when it occurs game after game after game..virtualky continuous then it cannot be random.
You need to adapt the MM to take into account experience of the player, and experience in the chosen tank, and if it is an auto loader or Auto reloaders.

[clever gale]

Add Sturmtiger

[mystic gorge]

Just had an epiphany, 121 with tungsten lowkey rolls higher than the Grille sometimes. In no world should a glass cannon TD be rolling 435 😭. Give it back 640 alpha and literally everyone would be happy

[nimble anchor]

Yessir
And also give the borsig and waffle better gun handling

[indigo tide]

Another problem is the ±25% damage, it’s way to large

[mystic gorge]

I don’t consider that an issue tbh. That’s the least of my concerns when it comes to this game

[fickle tinsel]

lol what yes it is

[scarlet yarrow]

I will do my best to take your advice

[frank moon]

Can the Ukrainian "Oplot" be added to the game?

[prisma jetty]

No

[timber kettle]

Hello

Could someone tell me why WoT Blitz needs help with the ultra test?

[frank moon]

I wasn't addressing you.

[prisma jetty]

You sent a message in an open forum, I replied

[frank moon]

I am sincerely glad that you answered. But you understand that no one is interested in your opinion. Ukrainians want to see their equipment in the game. The fact that it somehow triggers you is not our problem.

[junior gate]

so what tier should this modern mbt be ? T15?

[prisma jetty]

Your assumptions are quite simply unfounded. The tank does not fit into the scope of the game. So no, it will not be added.

[frank moon]

don't fit in? On what statements is your personal opinion based?

[prisma jetty]

The most modern tank in game is still lacking half the technology found on the T-84. Therefore, it is too modern and does not fit into the game.

[junior gate]

u want a modern tank to enter a game about ww2 and Cold War prototypes 😂 😂

[frank moon]

does it really look like a t15? i don't think so

[junior gate]

Ur right it should be tier 20 instead

[frank moon]

Well, I don't know. It's like a personal development of Ukraine, just like other tanks from the USSR that Ukraine built. I don't know what modernization you're talking about, but it's our tank.

[frank moon]

your iq?

[junior gate]

Ironic you speak of iq

[frank moon]

so only old tanks?

[junior gate]

Do you even play world of tanks blitz??

[prisma jetty]

The T-84 is built on the T-80. The most modern production tank in game from the USSR is the T-62, and even then that’s a prototype. The T-80 is multiple generations ahead in terms of technology, and the T-84 improves upon that still.

[frank moon]

If I didn't have it, I wouldn't be writing here. smart guy

[junior gate]

then why are you asking for a modern battle tank to be implemented into a World War II tank arcade game. Think please before you type your next sentence.

[frank moon]

Are there only tanks from World War II, smart guy? How then will you explain the Kusak, Dracula and other tanks?

[twin egret]

War World I, War World, II, and Cold War my guy, not just World War II

[terse cairn]

I don't blitz is only WW 2 game

[junior gate]

I know u are a Ukrainian patriot or whatever and want ur modern tank to come to blitz but you need to have logic and reason. t84 is a mondern tank with well over 700mm of kinetic protection how would that be balanced in this game?

[junior gate]

@twin egret read the conversation “my guy”

[twin egret]

no

[frank moon]

If only there was a second world war, there wouldn't be tanks like the Kusaka Dracula and the others.

[fickle tinsel]

buddy there are literally fictional tanks. we have a tank called the smasher

[twin egret]

forgot to say also fiction/fictional, but oh well

[prisma jetty]

I don’t see how that applies to real modern tanks

[manic flint]

we need golden wz 113gft or golden wz 113 which gives 5 gold per battle only 5 times

[junior gate]

they tank have 1200mm of armor against heat and 800 against kinetic ammunition how does that fit into blitz

[fickle tinsel]

it's almost like the game isn't limited to ww2 when wg has multiple completely fictional tanks 🤯

[prisma jetty]

When did I say it was limited to ww2?

[fickle tinsel]

right here buddy

[prisma jetty]

Uhhh I just said it doesn’t fit in the game. I never said it was limited to ww2. Lying isn’t a good look.

[junior gate]

yea a modern main battle tank does not fit into the game

[terse cairn]

Modern tanks could have been added as tier 11 tbh but wg decided to make some weird frictional tanks in wot pc and I guess that the same thing will happen in blitz too

[fickle tinsel]

"Therefore it is too modern" your argument is absolute garbage there are fictional tanks in the game there is no such thing as tm"too modern" clearly 🤡

[junior gate]

The Ukrainian guy is not advocating for modern tanks come to the game. He’s advocating his modern tank to come to an already non-modern tank game

[twin egret]

it doesn't fit into the game because it's far too unbalanced for the game ig

[prisma jetty]

False equivalencies aren’t a good look either. A real, modern tank ≠ a fictional tank.

[manic flint]

we can add more 3 tiers tanks then a modern tank

[prisma jetty]

The scope of the game has been made clear, and certain tanks do not fit into that scope. The T-84 is very clearly one of those tanks

[fickle tinsel]

I didn't realize the "groundtank" is considered a "non modern tank" 😭

[manic flint]

we have helsing and dracula

[fickle tinsel]

buddy you're drawing an arbitrary line in the sand here

[terse cairn]

Don't forget about endurance. Its a tank from future 🤣

[prisma jetty]

I’m not. I’m applying the principles that WG themselves apply when adding tanks.

[junior gate]

yea it’s not a modern tank. It’s a made up tank by Wargaming in collaboration with dune movies

[velvet willow]

Um guys can you upgrade spikes armor?

[fickle tinsel]

Arguing that tanks you consider "too modern" is an affront to the game when wg clearly has no issue adding completely fictional tanks sounds ridiculous

[prisma jetty]

There’s a reason we don’t have tanks like the M1 Abrams, leopard 1, challenger 2, or T-90 yet. The T-84 is similar in terms of capabilities to all of these tanks.

[velvet willow]

True

[terse cairn]

They should just make separate catagory as modern tanks in reforged just like how they did with vintage class

[junior gate]

Ur argument holds zero weight and relevance to what we are discussing just stop talking and move on with ur day

[prisma jetty]

The whole “fictional tank” strawman is getting old, especially when the original discussion was about a real tank

[junior gate]

Exactly

[twin egret]

even if "it were" to be added, WG would have to severely reduce the tank's capabilities far below what they actually are. You have all these tanks with just plain thick armor, then this one with internally spaced armor that is more effective than plain armor thickness.
Then you also have the gun that's so far different from most tanks, smoothbore, and that drastically changes up things

All you'd be left with is a really bad misrepresentation of a tank and would be no different from a T-62A with a different coat/appearence

[junior gate]

Now you understand what our point is

[velvet willow]

Modern tanks would not make sense in wot

[fickle tinsel]

neither does yours you're literally crying about tanks being "too new" when they have made up tanks 😭 😭 😭 you actually sound so ridiculous when people are driving around in tanks like the smasher and annihilator in a game that assigns arbitrary health point and armor values

[junior gate]

please read the whole conversation your level of intellect is disturbing

[velvet willow]

@fickle tinsel your therory is very trusting

[junior gate]

Fictional tank slop does not equal real modern main battles with real statistics in armor layout and gun performance

[outer saffron]

Didn't like how this test played at all

[fickle tinsel]

There are none it's all made up buddy. They drastically rebalance the tank attributes literally all the time. The is4 went from a sluggish bunker to a mobile heavium. Sorry buddy historical accuracy means very little

I know it's very upsetting to you for the game to not be historically accurate but you should've gotten over that hill a decade ago 😭

[velvet willow]

Why are the IS line is so bad

[junior gate]

That’s not what I’m even arguing hahahaha I’m saying modern mbts cannot be dropped into the game because they would be unbalanced. Simply put, you have strayed so far off topic.

Pls just read the start of the conversation

[fickle tinsel]

Actually many tanks would be unbalanced if they were historically accurate. You drawing arbitrary lines on the sand once again 😂 🫵

[junior gate]

I’m not talking about historical accuracy but why add a modern tank if they are just going to give it 200 mm armor

u don’t even understand the conversation yet again

[fickle tinsel]

Why add any fictional tank bruh wargaming literally does not care. Why add it? Because idk maybe people would think playing a modern looking tank would be fun 🤯 you know the same reason people buy and play completely fictional tanks

[junior gate]

nobody agrees with u move on with ur day GOODBYE

[fickle tinsel]

no need to be so emotional! Btw i don't think wgs "futuristic" t7s make sense having 200m armor either but i guess that didn't stop them 😂

[frank moon]

He says the truth. And you just throw insults at him.

[prisma jetty]

No, he uses a strawman argument

[junior gate]

These 2 are comedy

[prisma jetty]

The entire “fictional tanks” argument is just a strawman

There’s no reason to argue against it because it doesn’t mean anything in the context of adding the T-84

[junior gate]

they jump into the conversation and cherry pick random comments out of context

[twin egret]

most modern tank in the game hilariously enough is the Carro 45 t iirc

[frank moon]

I would add that if we only have tanks from World War II, then why are there any strong tanks like Dracula, Smasher, Kusaka in the game? If the theme is only World War II, let it be without fictional tanks

[fickle tinsel]

wz 122 tm

[junior gate]

Hi they are all reskins of existing tanks like amx cdc or kv2

they aren’t 100 % original thought up tanks

[frank moon]

alterations? so you mean modernization? well then add stronghold as modernization

[fickle tinsel]

was the wz 122 tm a "main battle tank"? 🤔

[junior gate]

It’s not modern

[fickle tinsel]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[junior gate]

it’s almost 50 years old 😂 😂 😂 😂

[twin egret]

1970 though. Carro 45 t is British origin funnily enough, not Italian. It was meant to proceed the Chally 1

Carro is slightly later, trying to find the info I found abt it rn

[sterile harbor]

Spanish?

[pure pike]

pls buff the fv 183 dispertion

its take 5sec for aiming and ohh dispertion is ugh

[fickle tinsel]

what tank is the groundtank a reskin of? 🤔

[regal urchin]

Evening

[twin egret]

Project "Hotspur" supposedly. Trying to find another image I saw before that's more detailed

[twin egret]

well nvm ig that was all. Allegedly all it's known is that it was intended to replace the Challenger 1, and the Challenger 1 entered service in 1983... so..., I guess take it with a grain of salt I suppose

[cinder shard]

On the other hand, it has the highest single shot damage out of any tank in the game.
It can already sit back and hit shots that it shouldn't be able to with the accuracy it has right now.
On top of that it has a little bit of armor as well and can be played aggressively.
Considering all that I really don't see any reason for the 183 to get an accuracy buff

[atomic pagoda]

Español

[daring tiger]

Actually I just realised what channel this is and I look dumb, I'll delete my rant now

[upper knot]

Please note, that the official language of this server is English. If you want to speak Spanish,
please join the unofficial server below.
Atencion, la idioma oficial de este servidor es inglés. Si quieres hablar Español o no sabe como usar ingles, porfa, únase al servidor de abajo. Asesoramiento, este servidor enlace de internet ni la propia de Wargaming ni reglementado de Wargaming.
https://discord.gg/r-top-blitz-en-espanol-786899768487575582

[obtuse rover]

Ngl imagine if d is7 had the super speed boost and move tungsten to is4 and give it better armor
I feel like d is7 should be a mobility heavy like in wotpc and is4 should be more like the st1 with good armor less mobility

Is7: + super speed boost, -tungsten
Is4: -super speed boost, +tungsten, + armor buff (probably still less than pre nerf but better than now)

Might as well give the bz75 and bz68 super speed boost too lol If rockets can’t be added

[uneven turtle]

Or, remove superconsumables as a whole and buff stats accordingly not by a lot but just enough to slightly compensate for the lost of such bonuses that the sconsumables can provide

Like personally, I’d rather ssb be removed from fv215b and terrain resist improved across all terrain types

[obtuse rover]

I Honestly like this better but i doubt they wg would remove superconsumables

[unique scaffold]

guys, it's my birthday today, let's munition

[lavish willow]

This channel is the closest I can post my idea for the devs as it involves balancing: Wot Blitz Rating should match players by first matching the lowest rated players in queue. Here it would work. Lowest rated player goes to team A, then the next lowest rated player goes to team B, then the next lowest rated player goes to team A, and so forth until both teams are full and then their match is started immediately before rating goes work on the next batch of players. If the match making system detects a new player in queue that is lower rated than any of the players it assigned so far, it will squeeze them below the closest player above their rating and move the highest rated player in their team to the other team or remove from the assigned match if the other team is full. If the 2nd lowest rated player is 1 tank tier above or below the lowest rated player, then the match making system will only focus on players that are between their two tiers. Tank types are ignored. If the number of tank tiers aren't exactly the same by the time both assigned teams are full then the highest rated excess same tier players are replaced with the next lowest rated players of the needed tier. All of this should minimize waiting time and skill gap.

[scenic hazel]

Vickers needs 380 hesh at least bro 350 aint doing anything

[fresh crane]

It already has the highest dpm for a light with standard rounds, hesh only makes it more (to 3.8k)

[scenic hazel]

Then nerf reload, its the worst light to drive

[fresh crane]

I would just buff the accuracy

[polar agate]

Sorry to interrupt with a topic that has nothing to do with the channel but it is something serious.

I downloaded WoT reforged and when I try to log in or create an account I get the message that the login is interrupted.

The worst part is that my internet is good and I can't explain why this happens.

[fresh crane]

1: you must have received an invite to join
2: even if you got an invite it hasn't started yet

[polar agate]

aaaa

Ok, thanks

[cinder shard]

More the first thing.
Test is still going afaik.
#📢tech-test-newsfeed message

Also @polar agate , you can get the Ultratester role to access the related channels =)
The full UT3 will be launched in the near future and everyone who can install the test-client should be able to play that

[rancid cradle]

Maybe Vickers can equip 2 cannons (similar to FV4202), APCR/HEAT/HE & AP|HESH|HE

[obtuse rover]

it should have 2 guns imo that hesh gun with high dpm and a higher alpha standard gun with no hesh and less dpm

[granite valve]

Reduce minotauro's cooldown on second shell increase on first, buff dpm and maybe little bit improve turret armor and it's gonna be very good tank

It doesn't need insane accuracy or ammunition rn but mino def lacking gun power and armor sometimes
Plez let me know if you agree or not

Idk why I'm typing it here though

Just silly idea

[twin egret]

tank is fine where it is imo, it's more of a defense tank than offense

calling it lacking gun power is crazy when it can dump 1,000 dmg into tanks in 4 seconds

[scarlet yarrow]

Make it so credit boosters aren't so hard to get, cause its extremely difficult to earn credits without credit boosters

[scarlet yarrow]

clearly you have NO idea how to play the mino, all you gotta do is sit hull down, the mino is already strong enough

[deep pewter]

only if you are super bad, its super easy to make credits since medals give credits

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[wary saddle]

😭 what

[fickle tinsel]

buff su 130

[latent copper]

LMAO

[fresh crane]

Bro
It's a heavy
With no downsides
With 19 reverse speed
Insane armor
And 400-700 more dpm than other heavies
That extra shell is a bonus

[terse cairn]

Its called reserve shell

They don't have reserved shell

[lean flax]

Will Ultra Test 3 only allow those who receive invitations to play Reforged?

[plush zenith]

Yes

[wet solstice]

yes other then super speed boost all the other ones just ruin the game

[uneven turtle]

Ssb is lame too

[wet solstice]

its just bounty turbo but for 15 seconds

[uneven turtle]

As I said in an example using the Fv215b I’d rather have better tank stats than temporary boosts

Frees up a space for consumables like the repair kit

I wouldn’t switch out the adrenaline for anything

[sturdy junco]

What tank is better. ho Ri or obj 263

[wet solstice]

but do you think wg will add improved equipment? like Improved, Bounty or experimental, probably not

[wet solstice]

Ho Ri

[sturdy junco]

Thanks

[terse cairn]

I think it will be an open test just like UT 2

[lean flax]

Like having to get an invitation?

[terse cairn]

No I mean everyone will probably be able to test the game without an invitation. They will say about that today in the stream

[lean flax]

I also hope that more people will test it without an invitation

[brave yoke]

Buff Dracula

[left cypress]

Ayyy ddm

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[cinder shard]

If you really want tanks to be buffed it would be beneficial if you'd provide reasoning why a certain tank should be improved and what characteristics could be improved to balance the tank. Same for any nerfs ;)

[graceful skiff]

Plis buff E100 🥹🥹

[cinder shard]

@graceful skiff Please refrain from posting such pictures

[primal yacht]

✅ andres039439 has been warned.

[obtuse rover]

gng jus don’t shoot the reserve shell it’s a shell u shoot at d end of the game or something

[quick lichen]

How odd to scroll that far back

[ornate dirge]

Nerf f3 nerf m4 buff e5 buff 60tp

[obtuse rover]

didn’t notice haha somebody replied to him yesterday

[ionic kraken]

Update Big Boss mode, so boss tank gets increased ammo capacity

[wary saddle]

Who's gonna tell him

[cinder shard]

@dreamy tundra Please don't beg for people to gift stuff on this server.
The camo might be available in an event in the future again, but asking other people to buy it for you is not an option on this server =)

[wet solstice]

give is-7 50kph

[nimble anchor]

YYYYEEEESSSS
Plzzzzzz do this
Make it like +100

[cinder shard]

Kind reminder

[primal yacht]

✅ zozodu11 was banned.

[primal yacht]

✅ wolf4357 was banned.

[stoic island]

Nooooob1

[vague night]

Mdr

[vague night]

Mdr

[wild current]

they should buff murat's penetration.

its a good mt but its pen is the downfall ngl

[wicked quest]

It’s HEAT is already high Among the mediums

[wild current]

hmm u sure abt that?

[wild current]

ig i have skill issue

[cinder shard]

Tbf, I'd agree that the Murat is somewhat overlooked

[wild current]

just bought it today and i can't seem to win a single battle even after doing like 3k-4k dmg most of the time , but i noticed i can't pen minataro front even with heat

[cinder shard]

It requires a different playstyle that's somewhere between an autoloader and single shot gun since it doesn't have the most clip damage and a fairly fast reload overall

[wild current]

ye its more of a hit and run tank or just abuse ur hull and dispersion .

[cinder shard]

Sounds like a pretty good damage result to me tbh =) Are you perhaps not running calibrated shells? (Even if you are the Mino can be quiet tricky to reliably pen from the front)

[wild current]

hmm i think i am not running calibrated shells

[cinder shard]

Try giving that equipment a go. It helps the pen quiet a bit, especially on Heat shells

[wild current]

ngl i rly don't know what to equip for this tank's boost section , i only focused on more hull armor and dispersion and view range

[wild current]

aight

[cinder shard]

The bonus it gives has been buffed a while ago, Heat shells now receive quiet a lot of bonus pen from it

[wild current]

ig ima give it a try.

[fallen mist]

Basically think of the Murat as a Bourrasque at tier 10, but with a little bit more armor on the turret and upper plate

[brave yoke]

why dracula should be buffed ? most symbolic tank in the game with barely 2k dpm, can't clutch, can't win tier8...

[opaque flower]

Never sell a tank? I don't like the t77. It's got a good camouflage 'cannon ball' but the camouflage doesn't help reloading time. I'm pretty sure I'm not good enough yet to use it tho. But I want to sell it to gamble.

[muted rampart]

T77 is a Top 3 T8 heavy tank. It's one of the best premiums in the entire game.

Definitely don't sell it

[opaque flower]

So it's just the operator not the tank..
Ty

Each tank is supposed to have different things about each. I'm I wrong in thinking it's difficult for a beginner (it was sold in a beginner package) or is it for beginners?

[muted rampart]

It is decent for beginners

[opaque flower]

Ok then..
Wholey Guacamole
I need to get help lol

[lavish willow]

For platoons, the lowest rated players are assigned first. If the higher rated player in a platoon can't fit in the same team as their lower rated platoon partner, then both players of the same platoon are discounted and will be attempted to be assigned for the next matchmaking and so forth if it continues.

[strange reef]

Give the chieftain both guns as an option, the hesh, and the APCR gun. I feel like a lot of people would like that.

[ivory quiver]

Hoping they do so during the t10 rebalance

[obtuse rover]

Yes please, I paid for the laser acc apcr prem gun

[wheat sparrow]

After a tank is destroyed, its model jumps slightly into the air and then falls to the ground, instead of staying in place or playing a smooth destruction animation.

[runic grail]

Not a tank balance complaint but a Big Boss complaint. Can u guys fix Big Boss MM by matching bosses? A med with no armor vs a heavy boss with armor and 2k more HP is not good.

[barren goblet]

I will be happy if they make it same tank class for a start. Even if it means issues with difference how tanks play of same category, at least you wont get maus vs sheridan scenarios.

[runic grail]

Yeah but every time im boss in a t9 med with no armor im against a heavy with armor and 2k more hp. WG fix BB match making

[nimble zodiac]

This channel isn't for the balance of game modes. They're inherently unbalanced

[runic grail]

Then wats the propper channel?

This is literally the only "balance" channel.

[nimble zodiac]

#big-boss
I wouldn't expect much to be done about the balance of Big Boss

[runic grail]

Thats fine. I can complain about regular battles. WG, stop producing OP tanks so anyone with skill has 0 impact

Making Erick Konzept a double shot was good for the game 😀

WG doesnt understand balance, WG understands buff, buff, buff and buff

Only good buff was giving 452k combat stab, thats literally the 1 good thing they did. Nerf 183 dispersion and camo value. But they wont.

[wicked quest]

Case in point, randomized roles has been a problem for years now and they refuse to address the problem with graviton

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[strange reef]

Give fv4005 hesh

[jagged stone]

Thats a good idea

[dry kraken]

Give E 100 new turret

[prisma jetty]

E100 turret is fine

[terse cairn]

Buff it by 10-15 mm so that mediums can't pen it so reliably

[mild parrot]

I love being stuck sideways to a wall for 90% of the match cause the enemy got more than one graviton.
and that the multiple gravs are insanely hard to get rid of cause they take less damage.

[oak flint]

Just wish to die then but I can't do that in big boss

[indigo bronze]

Make the amx 30 reverse speed the same as its forward speed

[spark void]

Gentlemen, I only have two requests:

1. When will the 183mm gun be added to the FV4005? Without removing its 123mm autoloader, just add the 183mm to make it more "historically accurate."
2. According to some documents on the FV215b 183 plans, it would have a 360° rotating turret. I'm not asking for this number to be added, but at least give it a 180° rotation similar to the 4005.
   Thank you very much in advance, and I hope you take this into account.

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[muted rampart]

1. never, WG has clearly stated that while adding 4005 years ago.
2. This game isn't meant to be historically accurate. That's also not happening

[vestal ocean]

BUFF the t110e5 dpm pleasee devv 😭🫰

[ionic kraken]

TS-5, Either remove the cupola weakspot or buff the armor around those parts. This thing is supposed to be an assault TD, it's supposed to be good at holding the front, but it just keeps getting easily killed.

The gun about it is fine, mobility reflects the role, but it can't do the role with two blatant weakspots that don't allow it to do it's job right. On flat ground, you can easily go through the front underbelly (dark blue), or if it's going hulldown, the cupola is easy to hit (light blue). If it didn't have such weaknesses, it'd be much better than now.

[fickle tinsel]

if they did anything it should be to buff the area right around the barrel because I don't think that was intentionally made pennable

[manic flint]

its turret is so hard to pen

[wide lagoon]

E5 already one of the best heavies imo

[tired ingot]

its not bro bad dpm mid armor s conq and 215b way better

[wide lagoon]

lemme get the E5 back, I’ll get the winrate to like 60+ with a casual setup

[cursive minnow]

💀 the 215b armor profile isn’t better than the e5 brotown

[tired ingot]

you sure?

[cursive minnow]

Compare them actually 🤔 I wanna see

[wide lagoon]

It’s honestly about playstyle, they have similar turret profiles (to me they do) but the hulls are completely different

215b definitely has worse hull armor but it’s way faster

[cursive minnow]

I’m comparing from raw armor and it’s not even comparable

[tired ingot]

e5 has a little more good armor but in other things like mobility etc 215b is way better

[cursive minnow]

They have their own way to play I don’t really see the dpm on the e5 to be really bad tbh and the armor works

[tired ingot]

2800 dpm is really bad compared to 215b

[cursive minnow]

I don’t think so but to each their own

[muted rampart]

Dude, you are comparing it to the extremely gun focused heavy, that has pretty much nothing aside of it's gun going for it. It's not a valid comparison.

FV can only get away with having such a good gun because aside of that it's total trash.

If something as versatile as E5 were to get this kind of gun it would be completely overpowered

[tired ingot]

Bro e5 has only 1 “+” and thats armor in any other way 215b better