tank-balance-discussion

[dapper zenith]

i don't think anyone knows, WG went silent on that topic a month or more ago

[soft flax]

I know it is not a strong tank in high ranked battles but in the midladder this is noob killer

[muted rampart]

It's not really

It isn't hard to pen, nor does it have any special feature that would make it hard to fight.

This is just your average outdated barely viable T8 premium

[lost crane]

Nah, kv 5 is well balanced, even slightly too weak. The armour is noob proof, but will disappear as soon as ennemy uses prammo, the gun is mediocre, and the mobility isn’t good (the top speed is impressive though).
No need to rework it, or maybe a slight dpm buff, or a slight engine power buff.

[dry plinth]

imo kv 5 is bad
the gun is 320 damage, the tank is big and slow, guns above 230mm penetration will penetrate it easily

[tough trout]

Please, give strv k heat premium, or buff its apcr pen. 310 is so painful…

[soft flax]

You are right, but this is annoying as a medium tank to pen

[quaint vapor]

The KV-2 should be able to do backflips, run accross the map within seconds

[versed leaf]

should be Fixed bruh, should be automatic 1 AP and 1 Heat. i only load one Bullet 🫠

[muted rampart]

This is your lack of caution, not game's fault. This is how autoloaders work since the beginning of the game

Also why is your reload on the Foch without anything damaged 26 seconds? Do you use 50% crew or what?

[versed leaf]

then why can we still change ammo without reloading, like in WoT PC? It means we should be able to have 2 different types of ammo, right?

[muted rampart]

No. It means nothing. It is just how autoloaders work in this game. You can't have more than 1 type of shell in 1 clip. They are already very strong and easy to use, this little bit of caution required when having low amount of shells won't hurt anyone.

It really isn't that hard to keep track of the amount of shells you have

[versed leaf]

i got ammo rack damage, wishing got 2 shells reload 😅 shock me for a sec. just loaded one bullet

[wicked quest]

It’s more don’t be an idiot and expect another shell to stay when you switch shells it’s an annoying feature that should be fixed eventually tbh

[nocturne mauve]

Each team should have the same number of heavies

[vital wagon]

Meds aswell

[twin egret]

It also affects autoreloaders

[minor talon]

Guys, which tank to restore?

Carro 45t

WZ-111 5A

Chieftain Mk.6

Obj. 260

Concept 1B

[halcyon knot]

obj or concept (in my opinion)

[obtuse gate]

Why would you sell any of them in the first place???

[minor talon]

It Was gambling addiction

[verbal leaf]

carro chief concept

[minor vector]

Obj and WZ are probably worst in that list. Chieftain and Concept are the best. Carro is only slightly above mediocre.

[unique scaffold]

obj is so good

[fickle shoal]

which one (troll emoji)

[halcyon knot]

Nah , chieftan is bad tbh , heavy tank support isnt easy to play and not fun at all (kill wr if u not skilled)

[frigid sapphire]

Blitz official takes strikes once again

[twin egret]

0 days since a bad take has been mentioned in this channel

[muted rampart]

Has this number ever got up even a single time?

[clear shuttle]

i think thats what people call a "skill, issue" but in not so sure

[polar girder]

Heavy supports can be good, 215b for example has an excellent gun, with good alpha with hesh. Chief is good for hull down support

[fickle shoal]

so true

WG please buff chieftan turret armor to look like this, otherwise it's unplayable and not fun at all 🙏🏼

[rigid moon]

I think that might be overkill but ye the turret currently is too easy to pen for whatever reason

[halcyon knot]

Chieftan would be good if there no goofy terminal cancer cupola
(Funny HE and HESH go brrrrrr)

[void siren]

You have 3000 dpm go away

[halcyon knot]

Well , atleast 215b got some good armor, ngl chieftan armor easily penetrated by same tier medium

[polar girder]

215b is rear turreted, so already thats bad, saying it has not great side armor meaning it can’t side scrape. The turret is alright, but if they know where to aim, it’s an easy pen, which is below the mantlet. The upper plate too is like 270mm and you can’t really angle that, and its cali meta so its an easy pen. The chieftain can guarantee armor on the turret.

[halcyon knot]

[wet parcel]

Actually, Chieftain is supposed to be a front line hull-down tank. FV215b is supposed to be the support one, but smh the FV has more turret armor than Chieftain

[proud cobalt]

exactly

[halcyon knot]

Gamble addicted XD

[polar girder]

when both hull down, the chieftain performs better in my opinion, mainly for gun depression and the fact it’s super capable in the right hands. Fv is harder to use hull down because of its rear turret design and less depression. Both are pretty good in right hands, but I’d prefer a chieftain hulldown since it’s an easier use to get and use the turret

[frigid sapphire]

Guys

I think is a skill issue, i'm not sure.

[wet parcel]

I'm not saying Chief isn't better, and also ofc the FV215b is bad for hulldown, it is not meant to do hulldown

[polar girder]

But if we’re referring to turret armor, I assume hull down since its all about turret armor. Both have good guns and do their things. But a chieftain on flat is something i’d properly prefer over the 215b since it’s taller and a larger profile you have to worry about the sides being exposed around corners.

[ionic anchor]

Guys is 112 sp good or bad,

[twin egret]

don't buy it

[polar girder]

Not worth it from what i’ve recall it doesn’t have a too good armor profile, gun seems eh. Not worth from seen

[clear shuttle]

its armour profile is eh but its just overall a worse e-100/60tp

[junior gate]

not fun to play, not competitive not versatile not worth it

[compact basalt]

why is E-100 absplutely indestructible when its on the enemy team but when i play it i get lazered instantly (angling and all)

[nimble zodiac]

Premium ammunition is the key

[tough trout]

« If you are not skilled », that’s the key part. They aren’t intended to be played easily to begin with.

[halcyon knot]

true

[scenic hazel]

just play e6 lol, e6 is better version of mark 6

[tough trout]

« Use gold shells, Luke ! »

[unique scaffold]

they have different playstyle so you can't compare them.
choose what fits your playstyle

[neon vector]

Chief Mk 6's gun is laser accurate though. WG might butcher it if it receives HESH as its premium ammo

[neon vector]

Nvm then. Must have recalled wrongly or smth

[timid swallow]

And lose its capabilities to even brawl against a maus or is7 in exchange for getting hesh, ya dumb

[lost crane]

Accuracy will still be good, because the alpha on hesh is kinda low

[tidal topaz]

Guys on a scale of 1 to 10 where would u put the ru 251

[neon vector]

Having HESH as prammo on a heavy tank is rlly stupid

WG should have added another gun that has HESH as prammo

[ember idol]

6~7/10

[brazen musk]

Buff tiger ll 166mm>>185mm

[minor mica]

Add a regular 105 on the charioteer with AP as its standard ammo and heat as its prenium ammo

[brazen musk]

Who is with me?

[tough trout]

For whom, that’s the question. Really skilled players can do really well in it due to mobility, great dpm, and very nice he. For an average player it’s going to be quite frustrating, having no armour, no alpha, and bad standard pen. So, maybe 8 for a good player, but, maybe, closer to 5 for not-so-good one.

[tough trout]

I do not see Tiger II as a tank that requires a buff. It has great gun, descent armour, and even ok mobility. So, to me it seems like buffing it is completely unnecessary.

[muted rampart]

Why? It has a metric tone of standard pen to work well even with HESH and HESH is tbh the only thing going for this tank

[ember idol]

An AP/HEAT gun could work

What's the worst that could happen and downsides could it spawn

[nocturne mauve]

No one

[brazen musk]

😦

[tulip fog]

Please buff the obj 268 this tank is so meh, it only have high alpha dmg mobility and high pen, but there are many better line with same ability and better version of it like hori, wz113, etc. The obj 268 line not even worth it, only tier 7 and 8 are good, tier 9 and 10 is pretty bad to be honest, they have slow reload (t8 have 13s, t9 and t10 have 13.9s and 14.5s), bad accuracy even i fully aimed, it has armour but very thin not like wz and hori, penetration is high but other lines are higher like hori and jg e100 when switch to gold ammo. In conclusion the obj 268 and also obj 704 dont have anything special

[muted rampart]

I mean it would be just useless. Charioteer has more than enough standard pen to deal with T9 heavies to begin with. Why would it need prammo?

[severe basin]

The obj 268 has a far better gun than something like the wz in almost every way, far better mobility, better camo than any of the others you mentioned

Infact (correct me if am wrong) the obj 268 has THE best camo out of all the tier 10 tds

[muted rampart]

It does have the best camo

[ember idol]

Overpen goes brrrr

[neon vector]

The 268 has the highest alpha for all 155mm, and it's combination of alpha + speed +pen already makes it a good support TD

[tulip fog]

the 268 have bad armour like the worse version of wz, the mobility is good but the hori is better and ofc it has the best camo among tds but bad accuracy it just doesnt make any sense, it missed many easy shots, instead you can just take a td that camping, have bad camo like 183 but have a better accurate you can just enjoy having above 1200 dmg

[severe basin]

Yea the obj 268 aint a frontline td why else would its armor just get gutted a few updates ago? And correction the obj 268 has better mobility than the hori dunno where you got that?
And the accuracy aint even that bad if your missing most of your shots then thats just a skill issue
Also the obj 268 has the highest heat pen in the game btw

[lost crane]

If you want, but only with a nerf along, like 200-300 less dpm, or -2km/h top speed… something like that

[flint token]

IRC style chat really isn't the best way to handle balance discussions

[ancient rampart]

268 has very good accuracy for its gun
If you’re struggling it’s entirely your fault

Also Ho-Ri is slower than the 268 and the 183 does not have better accuracy lol

[dapper zenith]

were you and me talking about t34 pbr? i think it was 10.8 when it did, unless im reading it wrong

[polar girder]

The 268 is a jack of all trades, best camo for td, has speed, trollish armor, its a genuine all rounder, has alpha, has some gun depression, it has high pen its just good

[lost crane]

Ofc, slightly more engine power (1100 -> 1200) and a better ufp (175 -> 190). Or a way better ufp (195~200). And maybe some accuracy or handling buff
But imo, it should be like the M4 54, with sandbag, good frontal armour, but maybe slightly less side armour

Yep, it was in comparison with the m4 54
Imo, the interesting buff will be more top and reverse speed, sandbag, and for the armour, 200mm ufp, 50-60mm side armor (so no big change for that)
And maybe slightly less dpm (2050-2150 with rammer, something like the Keiler or slightly less), but 350 alpha and tungsten

[dusky hawk]

nerf vk90

[lost crane]

Sorry, I’m tired 😅
So overall :

• 5km/h more top and reverse speed
• sandbag
• 175mm -> 190-200mm ufp (same side armour, or maybe 50mm
• (optional) alpha buff to 350 and dpm nerf to 2100 (such as the keiler with less dpm) and tungsten

[muted rampart]

That would be way too good

It's already not that terrible

Honestly, UFP buff itself would be enough and adding sandbags on top of it is as much as I think it could get without becoming a T54E2 v2

[lost crane]

Yeah, I agree, or maybe no sandbag, but 2 more forward and reverse speed

[graceful fractal]

where can i find a list of all balance changes?

[cyan coral]

It is not final yet and WG didnt announce anything so far but you can find them on other discord servers. Its on the discord linked on this website https://guidesblitz.com/

next-balance channel

[graceful fractal]

Thanks, and is there info about event on massive container?

[lament arch]

bro mistook 268 to foch 155

[polar girder]

It has comparable pen to the jag also…

[ancient rampart]

268 has better AP pen and they both have the same HEAT pen

[prisma jetty]

Aeson’s news server has the complete list

[graceful fractal]

can i have link?

[muted rampart]

*complete list of leaked unconfirmed changes

Honestly it's not even complete as it lacks quite a bit of tanks that were officially announced by WG to be changed

[prisma jetty]

It is as of right now a complete list of the changes that are going to happen. They are subject to change, but that doesn't make it incomplete.

[muted rampart]

Aeson himself said it is incomplete.

Besides that if something is a subject to change you can't say it's going to happen

[prisma jetty]

Aeson hasn't called it incomplete lol

[muted rampart]

Except he did. He himself said this list is incomplete as even WG doesn't have a complete one yet.

It is 100% work in progress so i wouldn't take anything there for granted and some tanks that will get changed aren't listed there yet.

So yes, it is incomplete and yes it is unconfirmed.

[prisma jetty]

No, he has not said it’s incomplete. Nor is it unconfirmed lol. If it was unconfirmed then aeson wouldn’t have posted it.

[muted rampart]

🤦‍♂️ anything that doesn't come directly from Wargaming is unconfirmed. Only WG has authority to "confirm" anything, as they are the devs.

And yes, he did say it is incomplete in his original message. It isn't stated in the new formatted version, but was there in the original one.

Also, WG officially announced on their live stream changes to 3 tanks that aren't on Aeson's list, which only better shows that they are, in fact incomplete. Maybe he didn't get his hands on all of them, or WG just didn't even complete them themselves, but regardless of that, they are incomplete

[prisma jetty]

If that's your definition of unconfirmed, then sure, it's unconfirmed.

And no, in his original message he did not say it was incomplete. Nowhere has he ever said the list is incomplete. As of right now, the list is complete. Those are the only tanks getting changes as of right now.

[muted rampart]

Except nothing is getting changed as of now. Tanks are only getting changed in October and that's when you will get a complete list of changes. Whatever this is, is still work in progress and doesn't include things WG announced to be changed, so by definition it is incomplete.

As i've said, complete list may still not be even ready, as it's all work in progress, but regardless of that it is incomplete. And won't be complete until it contains all of the aforementioned tanks.

[prisma jetty]

The changes are happening next season, which is next update. And saying the list is incomplete is saying that there are tanks which can currently be added to it. As of right now, nothing can be added to it, because the list is complete.

@twin egret The list being subject to change does not mean it's incomplete

[twin egret]

[velvet warren]

pls nerf the defender mk1

[unique scaffold]

Excuse me, wargaming, Pls buff the AT1 from 90 damage per shot too 500 dmage per shot, or that equivalent too a KV2 (or just buff the damage, i dont care how much higher)

[plain dew]

blitz players try to suggest rational tank balance changes challenge (impossible)

[polar girder]

Wth of a recommendation is this it has armor already doesn’t need a gun

[obtuse sentinel]

please buff your winrate to 60%

[frigid sapphire]

Pls buff your skill

[scenic olive]

Wg pls buff the poor, poor, pathetic kanonen 105. It has 1150hp, dookie dpm, apcr standard, no armor(which it obviously doesn’t need). All I’m askin is for the dpm to go from 2700 to 3000-3100 and ap standard🙏. Maybe a 50 hp buff for good measure.

[prisma jetty]

2.7k is pretty good lol, kanonen is fine tbh

[obtuse sentinel]

Here are my stats. https://www.blitzstars.com/player/com/tankjunky

I'm better than the average player and I'm most certainly better than you

Oh I thought you were talking to me 💀 mb king

[frigid sapphire]

💀 though that message wasn't directed to you🙏

[scenic olive]

the wz120 gft is superior to it in almost every way except mobility and accuracy

[obtuse sentinel]

we gucci right? I didn't realize you were directing your comment towards the other guy LOL 🤣

[frigid sapphire]

Yea no problem mate, i don't break down that easily and get serious immediately.

[prisma jetty]

So in 2 big categories? Seems pretty fair lol

[remote sluice]

114 sp2 should get more upper plate & turret armor, so u can only pen it in the face with gold, not the entire turret.

it also needs either better accuracy or 650 alpha

[scenic olive]

They’re not really “big”, especially when considering the kanonen is a sniping tank with no armor that usually camps in the back of the map so it’s mobility advantage doesn’t matter as much. Honestly the wz120 can snipe better too, you have 50 more alpha, 140 more dpm with good dispersion after refined buff. I’m not gonna drag this on cus I saw what you did with those other guys😭 if that’s your opinion, then awesome sauce.

[viral wasp]

Give fv4005 183 gun and nerf fv4005 speed to 50% of it speed now

[spare spindle]

lol any gun lower then 310mm of pen can’t pen turret except the corners

[tough trout]

I know that might be too much to ask, but, maybe, at least 25 km/h for the at line? In games that last 2,5-3 minutes, 20 km/h is pure suffering.

[twin egret]

it should get an upper plate buff though tbh, I saw that thing in battle and the front hull ufp is attrocious

[remote sluice]

still needs an upper plate armor buff at least. that thing is just sad

[spare spindle]

That’s pretty much every SPG tank

[neon vector]

Imo they should have made the SP2 a td like how PC did

[lost crane]

Nah, amx cda 105 is just straight up better, 120 1G FT isn’t the best comparison. Or even skorp G has less mobility but a turret, better alpha and dpm, or jgpanther II.
Overall, only the mobility is really good on the kanonen, but as it has no armour, kinda low dpm and alpha for a td, and no turret, it’s kinda useless. Look at the cda 105, it has almost the same stats but some armour.
But ok, kanonen isn’t the worst, but a slight dpm buff to 2.9-3k (with rammer), can make it more balanced

[neon vector]

WG gotta buff the M103's turret cheeks. 127mm ain't cutting it chief

[stoic wraith]

We need improve 114 SP turent armor and Alfa damage 620+ 40 and this tank became more balanced
When I pay almost 300$ for tank I need better armor and Alfa everyone can penetration in head

[remote sluice]

tbh u shoulda read the stats b4 spending that much 💀 i didnt spend a dime on mine

[wide badge]

Apparently, this game isn't pay2win 🤭

[leaden grove]

The Wz 113 should get a better gun /dpm and the Front armor should some mm.

[merry flume]

nah, just nerf the armor to 310mm effective

[neon vector]

For some unknown reason the 113's unique alpha of 420 got nerved to 400 in 10.3

[narrow raft]

what balance E50M can got?

[remote sluice]

same for obj 260

[neon vector]

wotpc has the problem of releasing op premiums, wotb does not understand how to balance tanks

[remote sluice]

some tanks like the is-4 which changes i initially thought was awful, but i tried it and its actually fun lol.

however there are quite a few awful changes in the next patch so ur probably right

[narrow raft]

im using is-4 its so funny i thought in the next season will come less fun

[remote sluice]

wdym? is-4 is getting more armor, more top speed, and even more dpm. what’s making it less fun?

unless im misunderstanding u, in that case my bad

[narrow raft]

i mean people will use it so much that it will be less fun since everyone is going for it

[remote sluice]

we'll wait and see, not many ppl are fond of the heavium is-4 so they might still refuse to go get it

[narrow raft]

76% of the people they are going for him since he is probably a meta, i am not sure

[mighty bluff]

Is4 was already a meta tank in someway now it just becomes ore meta

[narrow raft]

now its so bad but SOOO fun to play i recommend you but if you dont like less armour then no

[mighty bluff]

I already play it and enjoy it lol
(I even meme and use double speed boost it actually helped me win a match)

[narrow raft]

lmao speed boost its so good

[past vale]

Why is WG reworking the current tier 10 Chieftain while they are testing the tier 9 Chieftain? Are they really trying to sell the currently loved playstyle after taking it away from players? That's bad business bruh.

[latent ermine]

just add a second gun option on chieftain xd

[rocky sentinel]

It’s so easy and definitely what they should do, cause everyone loves the Chieftain.

[dreamy lagoon]

Nah

[north rover]

What the point conversation about tanks that can penetrate each other easily without any experience .assault tanks completely useless in blitz

[nimble zodiac]

Because armor isn’t everything

[north rover]

Assault tanks and break through tanks lay on their armor more than the gun if they really want to be useful but in blitz penetration extremely messed up compare to wot pc example ( what the point of giving heat 13% pentaration it's making the heavies tanks completely tds with armor and mobility and better hp

[nimble zodiac]

Most heavy tanks in tier 10 (where HEAT gets EXTREME) fare pretty well hulldown anyways. Also, break-through/assault tanks need literally OP armor if they’re supposed to push into a position unscathed

[north rover]

Assault tanks are supposed to hold positions with powerful damage but with low penetration so they have to aim at weak points bro that what the real experience is . breakthrough tanks supposed be most powerful armored tanks with good damage and low penetration with low reload because they brawler tanks already and working on aim at weak points in the same time tds supposed be the anti heavies that's how it supposed to work but let give example(E100 one of the most useless assault heavy in the game because it supposed to hold positions and breakthrough when need too but this tank completely eat heat from any tank in the game because the over penetration in the heavies and tds

[nimble zodiac]

And then the E100 hits the enemy that dealt him 340 damage a whopping 680. This is a two-way street

[north rover]

K let's have it your way so you telling me all the e100 should do is play like a versatile tank lay on shooting trading HP so the tank will be available for one vs one only lol????( Hp will be fcked up)

[nimble zodiac]

E100 is built to be a trading tank, yes. It's not gonna sit outside of cover while it reloads, right? High alpha with high HP and good armor defines the playstyle. Sometimes the point isn't to block the damage, it's to force the enemy to reduce their own damage output in order to deal damage at all, which makes the trade all the more favorable.

Versatile heavies like Chieftain Mk. 6 don't rely on trading, they rely on DPM, HP, and some armor in order to overpower mediums. Otherwise, they can still brawl with heavy tanks

Then perhaps you're not playing the tank correctly? Is that why you feel the E100 is underwhelming? After all, it's not supposed to carry battles. It's supposed to just be easy to play. Trading shots is a simple strategy for E100.

[twin egret]

E 100 scares tanks away with it's alpha basically

[north rover]

I disagree about what you said e100 not made for trading shots because it means from what you said the tank will be only available for one enemy to end his hp then die (And the problem about the game in the first place that you right it just depends on trade hps so no experience needed

[severe basin]

Could we please have 1 day without some random pointless crap here

[north rover]

And let's say e100 good at trading hp np can you tell me what maus should do or is7 ( specially is7 because this tank: no armor no penetration no dpm no alpha damage that scare someone and no accurate gun at all

[void siren]

Is-7 has incredible armor for its speed, good hp and a decent gun

[nimble zodiac]

Lol. No armor? You're just using it incorrectly. As a pike nose, I understand the idea that not angling at all keeps the upper plate the strongest, but using cover, you can hide the lower plate and maintain upper plate strength.

Is this the kind of business we're getting when heavies aren't the dominant class in the game? Which to a lesser degree they still are, I guess...
Maus is just meant to tank shots so its teammates can do the damage for Maus. IS-7 is just a hard nut to crack if you position it wisely. Sometimes heavy tanks don't have to rely on armor, or their gun to make their impact in battle.

[north rover]

Still no armor in what you said because if you did that the turret still easily to get penetrated from gun cheeks so it useless use that in close and medium range the only thing that good about it the pentaration low with alpha damge and low dpm completely good but the turret make the tank useless in what is supposed to do and remember is7 don't have good accurate gun ( it's brawler tank that depends on armor very much)

[severe basin]

Bro if you dont know what your talking about dont the is7 has one of the strongest turrets in the game

Literally TRY and hit those cheeks from medium-far range oh yea your not only time your reliably gonna hit those is if your like face hugging

[nimble zodiac]

Throw in enhanced armor and gun depression, wiggle the gun a bit, and even the strongest HEAT in tier 10 heavy tanks can't easily punch through

This isn't WoT PC, chief. @north rover
It's not meant to be a TD-only thing to penetrate. Tanks aren't supposed to be invincible.

[north rover]

The gun cheeks are completely available to get penetrated easily try it yourself in team training ( my point is this cheeks supposed be available only for tds not even heavy tanks ..try use same Angel you did in wot pc and see results please and share it here( remember that makes the tank extremely armored yes you right but is7 doesn't have penetration so the tank do her role by holding enemy and blocking)

[north rover]

Whatever you tired it still easily because the turret slow not fast and size of available place to penetrate big so this completely not fair for tank that depends on it armor and doesn't have pentaration (and from what you said right now mean that the game just making everyone easily pentaration each other so only tanks win this game dpms tanks ( and let's say you will keep wiggle and this stuff once the turret stop moving you will get penetrated ( tried this in room training with many players

My opinion increases the turret sides next to gun few mms like 20 or 30 mm so should be harder to penetrate and more comfortable for the tank to even stop one second aiming with gun that doesn't have accuracy

[nimble zodiac]

IS-7 has decent penetration if you're keen on using calibrated shells. 336 APCR doesn't sound like much but that 2 degrees of normalization does huge favors.

And with IS-7 playing defensively, the enemy can't get a good shot, and has to try to time the shot precisely or find another target. The enemy loses out on SO MUCH DPM when IS-7 does this and the enemy waits at all while their gun is loaded.

You have to take into account the fact that IS-7 not doing damage doesn't make it useless here. While IS-7 still could get a shot off or two, it makes the enemy lose out on DPM because they have to be patient if they want to hit their shot.

On your comment about the slow turret, just wiggle the hull as well and you have basically doubled the rotation speed.

Wasting the enemy's time is a strategy. Also this is the BEST heavy pen in tier 10, mind you. IS-7 deserves no buffs. It can do its job very well. It gets into an annoying spot and holds it viciously. Only the best of the best penetration tanks can really punch a well-positioned IS-7 out of its spot without rushing it

[north rover]

336 not good at all compared to other heavies in the game and this 2 degree the worst ever more than you think
I agree about the tank play defensively in close and medium range but whatever you tried the cheeks will get penetrated easily from experienced players at aiming and add for this the area of this cheeks really big whatever your angel so any heat gun will punish it easily ( just imagine the situation instead being stubborn fr ) not my fault you meet noobs that can't even aim it and I agree about dpm part they lose the dpm but still my point right the tank still available to get penetrated easily and about what you said wiggle the hull with the turret nice idea np but that's make you completely won't shot after you done this because your accuracy will be fcked up and the tank front you will shot once you stop moving one second

[nimble zodiac]

It's quite comedic, really

[north rover]

Is7 pc version and is7 blitz ( inot asking to be the same 270 but at least don't make it 240 extremely weak even at hardest Angel make it 255 or 260

[nimble zodiac]

Considering that if WoTPC disappeared right now and Blitz remained as it is, IS-7 would not change. That's why it's useless to compare the two. They're different games and metas. Fundamentally so. Don't bring up PC

[north rover]

So you're telling me. the game that shows the weakness of tanks obviously front your eyes make the tanks less armored while the pc version with only with arrow with 3 colours green and yellow and red make the tanks powerful ( man I will just stop play blitz because it just kids game no experience needed for penetrate enemy or real strategy ( hp trading strategies only) blocking doesn't existing and nice to conversation with you @nimble zodiac

[north rover]

This really comedy even worst shell at penetrate sloped armor tanks see it like that 😂😂😂

[nimble zodiac]

APCR penetrates sloped armor better than HEAT if they have the same penetration, so I'm not too sure what you're on about

It's a consistent weakspot you have to work with. Not only is it pretty hard to hit at all from any distance, the IS-7 can also just not expose itself and wait for the enemy to make the foolish move and expose themselves as they advance!

[void siren]

Blud wants the is-7 to have more base armor than a fully angled e 100 on it’s only turret weakspot 😭

[north rover]

That versatile game play not assault or breakthrough tank and add for that the gun won't help you aiming fast while the enemy retreats immediately and about apcr worse because it will cover Less area to penetrate more than heat ( you forgot the angels that shell bounce off)

[void siren]

Sir this is blitz every heavy is assault or support and has highly visible weakspots

Is-7 is somewhat op here

[north rover]

If I start talking about e100 I won't end until next day and wipe devs face for making this tank extremely weak even at hardest side angle ( the area between turret and hull basically the only 90 degrees angel of the turret neeed buff from 270 to 300 mm this area located at middle between turret and hull and I agree with you about high visible weak spot

[native folio]

Buff T-44-100 not too much, but enough to make it not terrible compared to mediums of its tier.

[nimble zodiac]

WoTPC player get used to heavy tanks having weakspots challenge

[muted rampart]

(Impossible)

[north rover]

And yea heavy tanks meeting each other is a really true experience at aiming weak spots of each other and truly amazing(Every tank does its true role basically ) not like blitz hp trading game lol why can't have this in blitz ... Easy because the game completely messed up

So basically vk72 ( mobility and armor and penetration and alpha damage and HP.....
Tds: are we joke to you

[dapper zenith]

in WoT they just spam prammo with no penalty, most of the town fights are just gold going back n forth, at least you have to decide pen/dpm in blitz

[north rover]

Look at the gold penetration in wot pc and then judge my friend and compare it to the tanks armor in it and compare all this to blitz ( the main thing you want to block the damage not taking less damage) let's say you maus with 3k hp that mean you can stand 8 shots 400 damge or something (so if you calculate it the only way to survive in blitz to hide the whole tank from enemy 💀 if you ask why there players have great states in it because they really good players at use them team as hp Walls for him while he gathering and stealing damage in general

You will never see a brawler tanker in blitz or Holder getting amazing profile because the others use him as prey

[nimble zodiac]

Maybe not great damage stats, but if he uses his tank correctly to support his team (such as Maus taking shots for teammates) then their winrate should be respectable. Not all tanks deserve the same damage output. Sorry that armor-focused tanks don’t carry with damage 🤷‍♂️

[polar girder]

Atleast the maus got decent dpm

[void siren]

People in wot blitz… don’t use gold as much

[polar girder]

I see people bringing like 10 shells of gold when they have like 30 max

[barren goblet]

In WOT PC prammo is too strong since you have same damage and cant switch shells on instant so it makes sense to have it loaded

[north rover]

Yea they completely use gold as primary ammo and that is annoying but remember you still have a big chance to block that shell more than blitz so basically the penetration didn't ruin the system of the game like blitz did ( that mean in blitz the one who had big advantage the camper because he will spam gold ammo for dealing damge easily without getting hit or even use normal ammo ... No one will dare to brawling or even try even to do his job as assault tank or breakthrough all you do dum.b tactic shot hide shot hide 💀

[hard pebble]

How about buffing all of the Valkyrie Chronicle tanks, all are lack luster

[polar girder]

Buff the T6 Tigers fr like the 131, and the Girl Und Panzer one

[viral wasp]

Wdym? The fact that there is tiger there is dumb already and you are telling me you want to buff them?

[wide badge]

Can we remove the fv 215b 183 in tech tree already and replace it with badger or alligator?

[polar girder]

Even when angled the fronts are an easy pen.

[viral wasp]

The fact that it is penable is nice imo, because if not it is invincible if buff them they will have super good gun, decent mobility and good armor which is dumb

[polar girder]

Even so, just so its’s properly good enough for a good player adds up, it doesn’t feel like a heavy compared to others where they can hold their own easily on the fronts

[viral wasp]

I don't want a tank that is able to dominate the game because you think a heavy tank is all about armor, heavy tank is a balance between firepower and protections, bad mobility is the cost for it, so having a super good gun is already good enough

[polar girder]

The guns aren’t the best, they are solid in my opinion, definitely useable, and only good when played by someone who can aim. When I think of a tiger I think of something that can angle so it’s armor actually works so you needa know how to angle to maximize the armor.

[viral wasp]

You haven't seen other heavy tank yet, the tiger is very good for it tier already, don't buff them, the fact that you can angle is just basically for someone who doesn't like getting pened which is normal

[nimble zodiac]

If anything, I’d just buff the upper plate so sidescraping becomes more viable

[fickle shoal]

pc is-7 casually going 60+:

[clear shuttle]

the blitz is-7 is unironically so boring to play rn

[dapper zenith]

i wouldn't say the is 7 has ever been fun or exciting to play but its just always been near the top for tech tree heavies and it was the king of tier X when there were only 7 heavies to choose from

[clear shuttle]

it was fun when it wasnt limited to 40kph

[twin egret]

Revert IS-7 changes -> buff speed to 50km -> oil gear

[neon vector]

IS-7 needs to be a meme ramming tank

[frigid sapphire]

Including PBR😨

[lost crane]

Use obj 260 🤷‍♂️
Or nerf the dpm to 2.2k, and it seems fair

[lost crane]

Nah, Tiger 131 is really bad, just a worst vk36. The GuP one is better, and is imo a great tank due to its really good gun, but both tank have really weak hull (you can see here a tiger 131 with enhanced armor against one of the lowest standard pen in the tier, even when angled, it’s really weak).
So imo, the GuP tiger is fine, but the Tiger 131 really need a buff, it has poor mobility, a decent gun, and no hull armour, it needs a gun buff (dpm / pen ) and/or an armor buff and / or a mobility buff. Otherwise, the vk 36 just has slightly less dpm for better mobility, speed and armour (you can see the difference between vk36 and Tiger 131 against the same pen, and vk36 is stronger, even against the average standard pen than tiger against the lowest)

[viral wasp]

You are comparing tiger 131 with the best hv in t6, don't do that

[lost crane]

Nah, the best ht in t6 is still the arl 44, by far.
And 131 is also a straight up worst kuromorimine
But anyway, tiger 131 has currently the worst performance among t6 ht collector and premium, and is among the worst ht overall

[viral wasp]

One of the best then, either way, it is an unfair comparison. The fact it is at tier 6 is for a reason, if it tier 5 it straight up nightmare for enemy, tier 7 then it nightmare for you. It doesn't need a buff, it need someone to handle it correctly

[lost crane]

Nop. It is overall among the worst t6. And it’s understandable, it has poor mobility, no hull armour at all, and a decent gun, it has nothing to shine (and most of it’s competitors, vk36, kuromorimine, icebreaker, are better)

It’s not even a nightmare for t5, it’s only hard to pen for t5 with low STANDARD pen. Imagine a t10 ht which only has armour against low standard pen t9 ? I mean, something like fv215b, or T95E6, or strv k, but at least they have really good mobility, speed and gun (which tiger 131 doesn’t have, it has decent top speed, decent gun and poor mobility)
I mean, Tiger 1 is really good in t7, and a nightmare for t6, but Tiger 131 isn’t really close tier for tier, and is in fact far from being as good. It looks like the Tiger 1, but that’s it, it doesn’t have the armour, the pen, the mobility, the speed… (tier for tier)

[gleaming apex]

.kvantium was banned.

[proud cobalt]

183

[sturdy copper]

Hello, and when will modern tanks and countries be added?

Will there be an answer?

[ancient rampart]

English only
And no there won't be modern tanks/countries anytime soon

[sturdy copper]

Why? wouldn't it be more logical to release modern technology along with the new engine?🤔

[neon vector]

wotb content usually would entail what WOT PC has released. Since there are no mordern era tanks on wot pc, it is highly unlikely that there would not be any

[clear shuttle]

wg themselves have said that they dont really want to add modern mbts and such into the game

[ancient rampart]

WoT and WoT Blitz focuses on WW2 and Coldwar designs
If you want modern tanks go play WoT Modern Armor (Xbox/Playstation)

[ember idol]

Blitz and PC still don't have a proper gun for the T-62, so keep the 3rd/4th gen MBT dream down the pipeline

[neon vector]

we dont even have the T-62, only the prototype of it

[sturdy copper]

I understand, but there is nothing to do in the game, all the equipment is upgraded, what should we strive for? As an option, together with the new engine, a separate server for modern tanks? Or at least add air or water forces?

[ember idol]

T-62a is pretty much an end product lol

[rocky sentinel]

Modern MBTs have ERA armor which makes any HEAT firing tanks useless. Or just spaced or composite armor. Also because the average MBT has more armor then the Ho Ri’s premium AP can deal with

[sturdy copper]

Ok

[jolly venture]

Or you can download mods which make the t-62 a t-90 complete with shtora

[waxen meteor]

Tiger 131 needs to be tier 5 tbh, with some adjustments

[sturdy copper]

Is it possible to use an iPhone?

[ruby agate]

🔜

[rocky sentinel]

that would be smart, and would actually make sense. Because the whole line has high DPM and good armor and low alpha damage. Except the 183

[shrewd pelican]

Do 114 sp2 even need a buff? Or it already good

[severe basin]

Alot of people agree that its the weakest tier 10 in the game rn yes it could use a buff

[shrewd pelican]

I see thanks

[nocturne mauve]

Make the multi kit cooldown faster

[shrewd pelican]

Remove the hatch💀 (jk)

[lost crane]

The weakest, not really (cs 63, fv4202, vickers lt… exists). But weak, kinda, it needs a slight gun buff. But it’s imo already kinda decent

[unkempt fox]

Why everyone saying 4202 is one of weakest.. its so easy to do well in 4202

[ember idol]

Confirmation bias is a dangerous thing

[fickle shoal]

britain having good t10 mt/lt? impossible.

[balmy veldt]

Bro that’s nothing, I swear I was in a match with 6 183s no cap

[twin egret]

Still no Centurion Action X, WoTb has fallen...

[ember idol]

Britain suffers

[fading rivet]

Honestly, tier X bored me a bit... it's just become a filth of Batchats and 183..

[severe basin]

I dunno man all of those 3 atleast got SOMETHING the 114 sp2 has NOTHING its slow, poor armor, poor gun handling (the gun is SOMEHOW worse than the 60tp gun) and with all of those things it has 0 redeeming factors

[neon vector]

WG should had made the SP2 a tank detroyer like on wotpc

[fading rivet]

IMHO 114 Sp2 is the worst tier X heavy.. (I agree with Droodle).. impossible (for me) to do well in it (apart avarage damage).. too slow, too poorly armored, too low DPM, too low accuracy

[tough trout]

I would suggest a little bit of ltp. Sorry, don’t want to be offensive.

[short hare]

We do not britain

[frigid sapphire]

Britain exist for that reason

[fossil marten]

Agreed 👍 needs either an armour buff or a gun buff or maybe a little bit of both. I’m doing ok with average damage (most games) but it struggles to carry, and if you get rushed then you’re lucky to get one round off before you die.

[shrewd pelican]

Ngl e100 kinda better than 114 sp2 imo

[remote sluice]

im gonna suggest smth that might make ppl think im mentally impaired (and they’re not wrong)

114 SP2 suggested changes:

• turret armor nerfed
• speed buffed from 32/13 km/h to 45/15 km/h
• dispersion buffed from 0.39 to 0.35
• aim time buffed from 4.9s (fully equipped) to 4.5s
• moving dispersion buffed from 0.19 to 0.18

and now we have the first ever heavium that packs a punch. the drawbacks will be the mid gun depression, bad on movement dispersion, poor dpm and still mid accuracy.

these changes were made based on the pc version, where the 114 SP2 is a mobile TD with zero armor but has insane camo and a great gun

[harsh ravine]

I'm down with this suggestion, I think the SP2 needs something to differentiate from the german superheavies and the 60TP

[fading rivet]

I think the biggest problems with this tank are the very light armor (even medium tanks can penetrate it without difficulty) and the camo rating, which is very low (like E100).
The 114 SP2 is always spotted from very far away (considering the Batchat kingdom) and often arrives in position already targeted from multiple directions.
After almost 200 games I can say IMHO that SP2 works exclusively in gun-depression and with a good team, under pressure and surrounded by braindeads it absolutely doesn't work.
Too bad, it could have been something different from E100 and 60TP turned out to be totally inadequate for the current meta and a bad version of those two tanks. (again IMHO).

[fading rivet]

I agree with you, at least it would be something "different".
The planned buff includes 1cm more armor on the turret which will allow the SP2 to resist 340 HEAT on the turret cheecks on flat ground.
However, for me it is not enough, the hull armor is too penetrable and the lower plate is too large... it is impossible to define this tank as a super-heavy tank.

[fossil marten]

Cannot disagree with anything you’ve said. WG needs to show it some love.

[remote sluice]

yep, we havent had a punchy heavium yet and i think this is a great opportunity to make smth unique

[frigid sapphire]

I think you need 2 sets of therapies for that

[remote sluice]

only 2?

[frigid sapphire]

Wdym only 2, you want me to bring 100? I'm broke bro.

[remote sluice]

maybe, 2 aint enuf 💀🙏

[minor talon]

Guys, from soviet container - LT-432 and Obj.260 is it good?

[gusty geyser]

I have These Tier X tanks:
-IS 7
-T110E5

Which one should I get next?

[cyan coral]

Preferable a tank of another class like a Medium or TD. If you want to stick with heavys then I can recommend E-100

[rich raven]

What is that pretty new machine?)))

[low robin]

We already had a punchy heavium & they took it away. They clearly dont like that niche.

[neat frigate]

bro?

[minor talon]

? I'm just asking

[rocky sentinel]

It’s better to save up gold most of the time then gamble with a small drop chance

[terse jasper]

260 is a good medium hunter tank, it’s one of my most favorite tier X’s tbh

[lost jewel]

Hey

[fringe slate]

The hybrid nation should be removed

[autumn citrus]

Why

[leaden vortex]

Where can I find out what all the next balance changes will be?

[leaden vortex]

@dapper zenith was just looking to see what the changes are to the UK tier x tanks are I know about the chieftain just curious about the fv215 and the 202 id those are changing much

[dapper zenith]

can dm?

[leaden vortex]

@dapper zenith yeah sure

[rugged sage]

The fv215b would be nice w a little more turret depression on any side

[remote sluice]

may i ask which one was it?

[severe tide]

tier 10 is not funy ı play more tier 6-8 or ıx rare ı play x tier one shot out of game is not funy.and this horribel load times my godnes with incredibel high depresions😩

[severe tide]

we wannt efecktive tanks not nerfed tanks its make us crazy angry with nerfs wg must change this negative stat currently

[nimble zodiac]

You shouldn’t be getting one-shot like that often. I’m not too sure what exactly you have a problem with in your first message

[severe tide]

ı stopped by ıs 3 selled back this techline ı never buy any soviet heawy tank incredibel bad nerfs ıs4 ıs7 so ı asked wg : why is pleaese uk td x tier one shot killer ? weak armore but deadly soviet heawy good armore bad guns ,this unfair as balance !😩

[twin egret]

4202 practically received no changes unless you play with the HEAT gun, which got nerfed. 215b is getting PBR, "armour changes," a small aim time nerf(+0.11), a small HP buff (+50), and a small view range buff (+5m).

Changes are subject to change. They are not final.

[leaden vortex]

@twin egret yeah was having a look was hoping no real drastic changes like say the chieftain losing it's apcr etc

[low robin]

The very old versions of the following: WZ-111-5a, IS-7, and AMX m4 54

[severe tide]

final ?* for what we need final if wg nerfed all the tanks where players had fun before in game dont touch roll back done years ago it was everything good . what is the erason for all the nerfs please for what wg changed ? for crying players complains ?and one special question : why is credit earning so low ? to push us to store ?and why we can wirite after out of game to players in game why not in eu server same? why is chat cancelled )

[twin egret]

The meta doesn't call for it yet I guess

[fickle shoal]

billions must yearn for the release type 71.

[remote sluice]

ahh i forgot about those

[rocky sentinel]

I want the FV215b’s hatch to be weaker, supe speed boost removed and the rear armor to be like 60mm but they would make the upper plate 150 and make the sides 110mm, and give it 15 reverse.

[polar girder]

The is-4 has a decent gun dpm wise, the is-7 gets tungsten being allowed to roll for 500s like candy and get racks easier since tungsten tends to do that, neitherless british heavies aren’t the best, some get hesh which boost their dpms, and most have good guns, but british heavies usually lack proper armor on the sides, (Ignoring sconq) and their rears are easy HE pens most of the time

[twin egret]

yeah no

[unique scaffold]

no

[ripe python]

The rear should never be a problem if you’re a decent player. Just be aware of it is all. Side armor is similar, but more impactful on the overall strength of a vehicle.

[digital mesa]

Since when did tungsten increase module damage

[fickle shoal]

it always has, you never knew that?

[digital mesa]

Never noticed since I hardly ever use it over adrenaline

[wicked quest]

Adrenaline does too by 10%

[digital mesa]

That I already knew about, just didn’t realise tungsten also got the boost

[tough trout]

If you: find it hard to grind credits, regularly get destroyed by 183s, and so on, maybe, just maybe, you should consider improving your skill level. Sorry to say this, but grinding credits is extremely easy in this game. Just take any descent t8 premium/collector tank, play reasonably well, et voila, you’ve got a lot of credits. Being shot by 183 should hardly ever happen, if you position yourself properly(getting hull down, side scraping, watching mini map, e.t.c.). Of course, the game has some issues, not trying to say that it’s perfect, but, for the fart’s sake, please, learn to play it properly, before addressing those.

[polar girder]

True, not a problem here, but I find it very useful to spam HE on the rear of brits usually

[ionic anchor]

Guys help, i wanna sell the xm66f for wz 122 tm? My play style is medium tanks, i really play bad at xm66f i dont like how it is played, do you think its worth it? I play so much better with med and ht, i only play td with mobility like grille.

Help me decide please

[agile dust]

Dont sell xm

[rocky sentinel]

Don’t sell tanks unless your like me who sold their stock season tank to get an overpowered tank. Because I didn’t have money to fully upgrade it

[tough trout]

If you’re absolutely sure that you’re not going to need xm, then sell it. But keep in mind, that if you ever want it back, you’ll have to pay quite a high price for it.

[weary edge]

Hey guys, I got IS3 and I am stupid at controlling it, what should I do?

[cinder shard]

Controlling it as in moving aiming and so on or getting good results in general?

[cinder shard]

<@&481447501690568709>
It's in most channels

[chilly token]

Wz moves like a heavy tank, keep that in mind

[gleaming apex]

That user is already muted.

[rapid jacinth]

Why is making tier X tanks less accurate a way to balance them? If players are aiming their shots well, shouldnt they be rewarded? I agree with increasing aim time, but much less dispersion. I think dispersion should be improved and then left alone for every tank.

[thorny timber]

dispersion needs to be proportional to alpha

it isn't fair if a 183 can hit shots and have the same bloom like an e5 usually, is it?

[pseudo spear]

not necessarily

[rapid jacinth]

Yes, I didn’t suggest any equalizing, only proportional improvements from current.

[thorny timber]

either way, putting all the disp of tanks around .3-3.5 would prove to be chaotic as it just encourages more camping ironically

wanting you to stay still and wait for the bloom to go away

[rapid jacinth]

I like that. I do believe one tank in particular was made to have too much bloom, AMX mle 54, for what it is. My attempts at marksmanship in a game are definitely stepped on by this tank. Here’s hoping the gun handling comes out a little better with the next update.

[thorny timber]

yeah, tbh

that tank is on life support for that disp to alpha ratio

[lost crane]

In fact, E5 is much more accurate than 183 (0.299 vs 0.408) And, even more, 183 is the least accurate tank in tX

[tough shell]

You do realise that using one doesnt prevent you from equipping the other as well, right?

[digital mesa]

I don’t like using both since it means I only receive one repair pack. Sure two repairs is probably overkill but it’s saved me in the past when i made stupid mistakes

[tough shell]

As nice as having two repair kits might be, if there s the option of running tungsten in place of one, it simply has to go
Not going for the tungsten consumable is the same as willingly forfeiting dpb on whichever tank you re playing and that certainly is an hard no

[digital mesa]

Honestly you’re right, but i’m going to need to play more tanks with tungsten first, and also fix my muscle memory
Until I buy more tanks with tungsten however, the double repair kit stays

[tough shell]

You just need to make sure to not put yourself into situations where you re likely to have to repair modules multiple times during a short period of time
As long as you re able to manage this, you ll do good without 2 repair kits
Its all about limiting the time you re exposing yourself to potential enemy shells as well as making the most out of the windows you re using while doing so

[digital mesa]

I’ll find time to build that skill later, since getting major improvements in my performance isn’t exactly my priority right now

[unique scaffold]

Buff ms-1

[polar girder]

Buff panzer 58, it’s pretty average and unused cause of such.

[twin egret]

alternatively you could wait for them to release the other Panzer 58 tank (which has functional turret armor with slightly worse stats)

[ancient rampart]

I'd say it's one of the better mediums in tier 8
solid 7-8/10

[fresh shell]

Change WZ-122 TM gun to a 240mm gun and make its armor not penetrable and make its speed to 100 miles per minute and change its reload time to 0.1 milliseconds

[wispy leaf]

that's not going to be exactly the same as the real actual tank

[uneven turtle]

Wg add this pleaseeee

[viral wasp]

Buff Vk90 gun to 540 hp alpha, and increase its dispersion. We don't mind that trade off

[unique scaffold]

🤣 🤓

[viral wasp]

Why be rude? Give your opinion not some random emoji

[ember idol]

Rich man's VK72

[viral wasp]

Not much better tho

[scenic hazel]

get off the kitchen ur banned

[viral wasp]

What bro?

[fresh crane]

Talking slap

[nimble zodiac]

VK 90 is a good tank, and if it's a direct tradeoff that makes the tank different with the gun's style (that people currently enjoy), then there's no balance reason to change it in the first place

[remote sluice]

the tank needs an armor nerf, not a gun rebalance

[viral wasp]

Ok

[fresh crane]

No it's perfectly fine in it's state

[viral wasp]

Actually, i just got a 300 in it with 50% more damage, it need a new damage range at least

[lost crane]

This tank doesn’t need anything, or maybe a slight mobility nerf

[autumn drum]

Is the concept b1 a good tank ?

[tough trout]

I didn’t know why you think so. It’s not THAT hard to deal with. Most heavies with insane heat pen can cut through it without too much effort. Mediums can get to its sides or back. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think that it is weak, but don’t think it needs a nerf either.

[remote sluice]

thats part of the game.

[polar girder]

Amazing hulldowner, great dpm also. Worry about the alpha as people aren’t scared of it really though.

[nimble zodiac]

Could you elaborate what you mean? You rolled for 300 damage? What is the 50% more damage from?

Okay, did you use HE? Did you shoot a graviton? Did you shoot a shield-bubbled enemy?

[viral wasp]

Catalyst lv , ap, no shield no gravitron, just 300

[nimble zodiac]

Send me the replay file. The VK 90.01 P cannot roll a 300 with an AP shell, especially if you had a 50% damage boost

I really want to find out how you rolled 300

[viral wasp]

I don't know which is the one

[scenic hazel]

pretty trash pen and apcr standard though, only downsides

[viral wasp]

Every time i open one of these to check i need to wait like 30 sec to load :/ I can't check if which the one

[nimble zodiac]

Well, it's not normal to roll 300 with AP at all. Literally impossible under normal circumstances. Reactive armor is the only way, and you have to have a sad roll there

@fresh crane Did you read the last sentence?

[fresh crane]

Unless reactive armor

[viral wasp]

Oop, it was 30% but i got 331 anyway, so... Very sad roll and how to send a replay?
Against Jadgpanzer E100 btw

[nimble zodiac]

Send it in private messages so this chat isn't flooded with a somewhat irrelevant topic.
You have to send the replay from your computer, unless your phone stores replay files

[fresh crane]

Idk what possibly could have happened

[dire grotto]

What is6 gun is better

[fresh crane]

Either one is pretty mid

[muted rampart]

I personally prefer the Low pen, high DPM gun, but it's much harder to use and will not make IS-6 competitive. It is a mid tank and both guns aren't too good on it

[dire grotto]

The high pen gun is something that I use now and then they seem to preform similar

[tough trout]

Well, it has excellent turret, it is pretty mobile, and its dpm is quite nice. But it also features a very weak hull, its basic shell is apcr, which means, it ricochets more often, than you would like it to, its pen with premium heat is far from the best for a heavy. So, you decide, if it is good.

[gusty geyser]

Best tank vor Tier 6 tournament ??

[lost crane]

Arl 44 or Churchill mk VI, or Tog II, or vk36.01H, or kryos or hellcat

[jagged forge]

Barkhan or icebreaker

[regal iris]

Petition to add high pen low dmg Scout cars NON-TRACKED to the game

HEAR ME OUT

• High rate of fire (570rpm +)
• High penetration low dmg
• 5 rounds per magazine, 2-3 mags before complete reload
• A balanced overall reload; roughly 14-16 second reload (before equipment mods and consumables)
• Of course no armor
• High Mobility and balanced accuracy while on the move
• T7-9 only

What y’all think, keep the jokes to a minimum

[void siren]

Amx 13 90 or amx 13 75 or amx 13 57 already fill those roles

Or gravedigger, duh

[regal iris]

Obviously you not reading the whole thing, lmk when you read the whole message (20-30 second read)

[minor talon]

Guys, Obj.752 from globe. Any advice for this tonk?

[acoustic estuary]

Wouldn’t work.

[void siren]

Why do you want even more rounds on a tank, mini guns look stupid and these tanks would just be worse clippers in general

[regal iris]

Great tank don’t sell

Bro wth is this <@&481447501690568709>

[ember idol]

Just say you want wheeled IFV man

[zenith furnace]

R3 T20 would definitely improve the game

[shrewd crag]

Does obj 274a worth it.
Got it from the 1000 gold crates (2nd drop).

[viral wasp]

Yesn't

[rocky sentinel]

It’s pretty good

[shrewd crag]

Well I was lucky enough to get two tanks from the first 2 gold crates.

[dapper zenith]

its my favourite t8 soviet medium but the st 62 v2 is starting to take over as my favourite

[shrewd crag]

I can understand because it has decently good armor. Good gun depression value.
I almost carried a game as I almost solo-ed the medium flank killing Emil 1951, T 20 and prog 46 with help of our medium allies. but our Pz RH 07 (other medium who killed himself) and KV-3 did nothing making it a fat loss.

[sweet relic]

we need to talk about the interclip reload of the fanrik.... it needs to be shorter than 3.75....

[ancient rampart]

Nah

[sweet relic]

yah

[ancient rampart]

You have two shells 3.75 is fine

[pliant charm]

Wouldn't use the hellcat for 1v1 though

[gleaming vine]

add 160mm auto loader for caliban

[muted rampart]

Fun fact: It was actually tested, but was deemed impossible to balance and scrapped, here are it's stats from test

@twin egret true

[twin egret]

they should've kept the og top speed, 30 is atrocious

[gleaming vine]

dang\

[gleaming vine]

i restored this thing for 1.4m silvers

[void siren]

That looks fun 😦

[snow rock]

I need reticle back on chimera pls

[nimble zodiac]

😂

[plain plinth]

I hate the kran

[frigid sapphire]

🔥

(This is sarcasm)

[crimson panther]

Hell naw

[gleaming snow]

give ms-1 0.5 sec reload no clip 500 alpha damage for all and 1200mm of pen on all shells + make it as fast as lttb and give it infinite armor. very balanced oh and also move it to tier X

[neat venture]

Seriously guys, wargaming needs to think again about what they call as beeing a "penetration"

[grand sluice]

Balance the gallery of milhouse Blitz 😂

[idle socket]

Vickers buff when?

[fresh crane]

It has poor mobility and armor
It doesn't have anything good about it

[tacit moon]

Serious? Smasher (tier VII) vs. BZ 75 (tier X) DERP.

[chilly token]

smasher vs maus

[tacit moon]

Smasher has a weapon comparable to a tier X, while BZ is a meme.

[neat venture]

Peak stock AMX TD tier 8 from tech tree: (I HATE HAVING 220 DAMAGE AND DISGUSTINGLY LOW PEN FOR A TIER 8 TANK ALSO THE 310 ALPHA DMG GUN COSTS 30K XP LIKE WHAT)

[thorny timber]

When a stock tank is supposed to be bad is bad: 🤯

[long acorn]

Has Type 59 been buffed yet ?

[ember idol]

It's proposed to have one somewhere around Season 5, but nothing official yet

[civic sphinx]

заасуньте разрабы все эти 14 пультов по 1 каждумо из родствеников

[ancient rampart]

It has better armor and mobility than the Emil II

[prisma jetty]

It’s armor is worse, and it only has a higher top speed going forward, Emil 2 has better reverse speed and better effective hp/t

[half walrus]

is the leo 1 nerfed

[muted rampart]

Not yet, but might soon be unless WG changes their mind

[lost crane]

yeah, but, look at the armour, look at the mobility/speed... (tier for tier)
I mean, yeah, smasher is op, but it's just a gun focused tank, no hull armour, troll turret armour, kinda bad mobility and decent top speed, it's just a turreted SU 152 (with the stock gun).
So, for a t7 HT, this gun is stupidly good, but if we see this as a t7 TD, it's ok, only good. (kinda like the E4)

[south helm]

Smasher is still annoying

[void patrol]

Edit that profanity out. Thanks

[south helm]

That’s considered profanity? Sure…

[fresh crane]

No it armor is worse, and doesn't have as much gun depression iirc
Overall it's a garbage tank and was wayyyyyy too expensive

[ancient rampart]

The armor is better but it's not angled as much as the Emil II
so it's effectively worse

[valid cave]

Hi do you think the E6 is good or only for above average players?

[iron crow]

every tanks is good just play for fun

[cinder shard]

It performs well more consistently in the hands of good players, that doesn't mean newer players can't do well in it though. It's mostly about understanding that the tank is more of a big medium than a real Heavy.

[next zodiac]

Well, the e6 has ni armor so its more like a medium. You can think of it as a big heavy leopard 1

[dapper zenith]

it's not necessarily good players, but players who know when and where the e6 will work, those who like to ridge line fight and relocate often will do better in it over a player who likes to side scrape/ hull down in their heavies

[muted rampart]

<@&481447501690568709>

[tough trout]

Surely, it is very difficult to get 30 k free xp…

[unique scaffold]

Anyone know if this tank is still in testing or did this guy find another way to get it in game?

[ancient rampart]

It’s in testing

[neat venture]

I'm not gonna spend 30k free xp on a module! (I have 300 000 free xp haha)

[nimble zodiac]

Wait till bro has to spend 75k on a module

[unique scaffold]

Welp we're doomed that tank is gonna destroy every op tank in the game

[severe basin]

Currently with the stats it has rn its hella mid

[twin egret]

... It's trash...
Funny how everyone that thinks it's OP just so happened to get nuked by it

[muted rampart]

I mean it will be honestly a 183 v2. It will be new/worse players' bane. But for better players it will be nothing more than annoying pile of free damage

It doesn't have a lot going for it, but if it catches you off guard, you lose 1700+ HP and there is nothing you can do

[twin egret]

It's not really a 183, it's more akin to a 4005. 183 deals it's damage in an instant, 4005 can either take 4.25 or 7.5 seconds depending on if shell boost is ready. Rn WT has a 1.8 s interclip with 5 shells, so 7.2 s to dump 1.7k. arguably it's a worse 4005

[uneven turtle]

You need to check in more on balancing chats

Wte100auf is not good at all

[pine grove]

Well the thanks ITS not fully on public Soo the tank statistic can be changed by wg

[uneven turtle]

It’s almost definitely gonna be trash

No way you’d have the turret which is only a few mm thick be buffed to 200mm

No way you’d have a super heavy td have the camo of an obj 268

Normally when it comes to tank balancing you should hardly judge how it could be balanced via its design

But when you already have examples like jg, fv4005

Just combine those two tanks
Minus a few of those attributes

And wt Auf e100 is pretty much that

[unique scaffold]

Damn in world of tanks it's ok

[uneven turtle]

That’s because it’s gun had the mentality of kill others before they kill you

Wotb wte100 clip can’t full Hp a mt

Wot’s WTaufE100 could leave super heavies on the edge of death

[unique scaffold]

Tru Tru well thanks for the info I'll look into it

[viral wasp]

Uh.... Buff T71?

[night dock]

Either way, it would still be a cool tank to collect, hope that they give the WTaufE110 the camo

[fresh shell]

Ngl they should add MS-10 to wotb

[native folio]

Add Tiger 3, it was an idea brought up by Henschel, put it at IX.

[ancient rampart]

Already in the game

[clever citrus]

The badger needs more armor

[native folio]

What's it called then in-game? (I do not count the E-75 as the Henschel Tiger 3, they are different tanks)

[muted rampart]

"Tiger" is a designation asigned to vehicles already after they get accepted for further development. There was no such thing as Tiger 3. German prototypes get VK designations

Just like Tiger 1 was VK 45.01 and Tiger 2 was VK 45.03 or Panther was a VK 30.02

[native folio]

so, would it be VK 45.04 (H)? Because E-75 seems to not be a henschel design.

[muted rampart]

I have no idea, i have never heard of Tiger 3.

But it probably had some project designation if it existed

What i know about though is VK 45.02, which was a loose concept of slamming a Tiger 1 Turret on the entirely new hull with sloped frontal armor like in Tiger 2 or panther. This could actually come to the game

[native folio]

These fellows, specifically the Ausf. L.

[muted rampart]

The one above is just an E100. The lower one i have never seen, seems like something completely made up. It also seems to use E100 hull but with some weird turret design

[twin egret]

bottom one would be cool to see be added to wotb ngl
just make it a tier 9

[muted rampart]

E100 hull at T9 could be overcooked if turret is equally as strong

Sure, they could tweak other stats to balance it out, but it would have been a nightmare to face

[native folio]

Looks kinda like a Tiger-Maus hull more. (Also we have the E-10, like a Tier IX E-100 would be bad, the E-10 is at VII)

[twin egret]

Could be, but if you take a little bit closer, the hull is different from the one above, so that could be some excuse to decrease some armour values here and there for the hull being less long
Looking at the turret, it's hard to tell if the armour plates at the front of the turret slant inwards towards the gun's position. But if that's the case, the turret could be like the 114 SP's in terms of weakspots. Just slightly turning the turret will cause those plates to be grey

[ancient rampart]

From the image the hull is literally the same other than missing a track wheel due to being shorter

[waxen chasm]

Hello

[twin egret]

Maybe it's just an E 75 hull with E 100 sideskirts 🤔

[ancient rampart]

Nah it 100% looks like a E 100 hull just shorter

[errant linden]

Nah it looks like a tank

[tepid sedge]

Pls do not touch Chieftain 6(and give him cumulative shells) and add this new gun with hesh as alternative.

[neat venture]

Average semovente controcarro 1 mk 2 luck with it's dispersion

[twin onyx]

Man reserve shell on italian destoyers is bad

[neat venture]

Their dispersion is 10 times worse than any other drawback. Damage is good, reload time works, armor, just look at my screenshot. But the dispersion!? It's like wargaming just absolutly loves RNG, so they had to give us this damned dispersion so our bullets get sent into oblivion.

[lost crane]

nah, dispersion is not bad, it's just average (0.342 is decent, and with refined gun you can achieve 0.29), so, maybe just take some time to aim

[neat venture]

Yeah i was probably thinking about that when i wrote the message

[tiny spoke]

hi guys.

guys. i what do you think about the t-44‘s? my opinion we need some new hd textures for them since we have 3 different t44 models. and the t-44-100 needs to be buffed since its a premium version of the t-44 but the regular t-44 has better amor

[heady charm]

Make teams more fair fr, grille 15 is the best tank in my team and in the other the baddest 💀

[slate nebula]

what tanks are changing from prem to collector next update ?

[ancient rampart]

None so far

[tough trout]

I’m sorry, but you either had a very bad luck, or you didn’t aim properly.

[gleaming monolith]

Been watching container ads since they came out. Never thought I'd get it lol.

[twin egret]

bro hit the rarest drop tank in the container even rarer than the phase 1😭

[gleaming monolith]

I know dude, I couldn't believe it, I know it's not very good but hey it's a free tank.

[granite raven]

Hey, the wargaming support sent me here.

I currently play WoT Blitz on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra.

The HUD is not optimized for this size of a screen. The buttons are way too small.

In relation to that, WoWS Blitz made it perfectly. It adjustes the size of buttons and Infos on the screen to be easily readable.

When will WoT Blitz get such an Update?

Thanks for your answer!

And where do I find the Chat with the Devs channel about technical difficulties?

[severe pumice]

#general-blitz-discussion or #news-discussion so....

[gleaming monolith]

Panther m10 ain't too bad, enjoying it👍

[bold summit]

Lucky 👌

[nimble zodiac]

Could you DM me the screenshot where they say the official WoTB Discord is the place to ask about this problem? WG Support should be addressing your problem themselves

[viral wasp]

buff t71? plz it weak

[hot bison]

It got too stronk when release and it got nerfed lmao

[wicked quest]

It was pretty weak at release it’s one of the best T7 lights as of now

[viral wasp]

to me it has an insane problem of being a clipper, you most likely to peak-a-boo rather than being speed

[wicked quest]

It’s supposed to it, you run gunpowder and supercharge and you can instantly poke at targets at range

[viral wasp]

well, to say the least, it don't have a light tank like tactic, all it need is a single shot gun

[wicked quest]

Bulldog is that and it plays worse

[twin egret]

T71 is surprisingly underrated

[remote sluice]

i have another stupid idea

how about a provision that increases ur module damage by like, idk, 10%?

edit: tbh this would be more balanced with the old equipments. the current equipment system would make it a bit op

[twin egret]

you mean tungsten?

[remote sluice]

nah it only increases module damage, and it’s a provision instead of a consumable. honestly that is kinda a bad idea now that i think about it lol

[twin egret]

hm yeah, let's give a +37% crit chance with your provision + adrenaline, tungsten, and lv. 7 Sniper crew skill for single shot gun tanks that feature tungsten to begin with

[remote sluice]

yep thats why i had second thoughts

[frigid sapphire]

!

[unique scaffold]

Pls give a REAL 122mm gun for this tank 😭

[final aspen]

Its not that bad

[ember idol]

It's always been proposed to use a 120mm gun

A 122mm would've been a downgrade if anything

[unique scaffold]

Hmmm

[ebon igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/おめでとう-嬉しい-クラッカー-お祝い-可愛い-gif-15780951

[viral elk]

Are tank destoryers like the ho ri and jag getting amour nerf

[whole thorn]

Why do I think WG is going to make battles longer ( or maybe they'll make maps bigger )

[gusty flower]

Cancel balance changes immediately learn your own game

[hushed crown]

stop balancing the game
hire normal balance team
<3

[twin mulch]

Innit

[blazing lodge]

new balancing sounds ass

[distant cipher]

Up Grille 15

[daring storm]

Some changes are a must do(looking at u strv k) some are "WHY WG WHY"(e50 M)
Like lower the armor on the e50,it's a med,not a heavy with speed
And buff the avg speed of strv k,if it's a heavium st least make it work as one,look at the T65E6,pretty much a great heavium,we need the same stuff to strv k

[atomic perch]

Sounds good

[tired hill]

Buff the Grille!!

[granite bone]

Longer maps would be cool but kinda annoying i think

[unique scaffold]

i think nerfing autoloaders was a good step but everything else seems a bit odd.

[south helm]

💸

[onyx crow]

🇨 Decreasing the prevalence of autoloading tanks at Tier X.
Ok

[azure kiln]

nerf vickers is too overpowered

[lavish spade]

Buff grille 🙂

[waxen chasm]

I need help please

[sleek pier]

Buff a tvp5051 or nerf?

[willow eagle]

GIVE VK72 PBR!

[random brook]

give maus better armor

[dense thorn]

They should give every tier X PBR

[subtle storm]

Plss PBR VK72 ang give new camos

[worn heron]

the new balance changes look so random

[blazing lodge]

wants to nerf autoloaders
also wants to reintroduce the waffentrager
pick one wargaminsk

[narrow raft]

buff obj 268 better accu

[ancient rampart]

It's already very accurate

[distant cipher]

• Grille really needs buff

[dusty egret]

Convert all to collectors

[next knot]

give grille 640 alpha back

[empty flint]

And Project Murat with two shot autoloader

[heady relic]

Give it impenetrable armor
Make grille great again

[tired hill]

I bet they're gonna do more nerf on the grille because it's "too popular"

[charred vigil]

They could even put 700 just to start the real fun.

[acoustic flicker]

Nah. 640.

[undone ibex]

I wonder if they will remove auto loading from Kranvagn

[subtle storm]

Buft 60tp doesn't always explode ammo and strengthen hull armor

[gusty flower]

Some of you guys most definitely need to learn the game before talking about balance changes @undone ibex @narrow raft @subtle storm learn the game pls people like you cause to be unbalanced

[fresh crane]

Protective kit and defense system:

[blazing lodge]

adding the waffle already would nerf the grille

[balmy veldt]

Frfr

[next knot]

ye but the reload would be like 12-13

[low tapir]

plz give AP standard to every tanks

[hexed grotto]

Nah that would make Kran op as hell

[distant cipher]

Buff grille please

[loud nebula]

BUFF THE DANG IS4

[narrow raft]

its the best dont insult him

[left nova]

Please make weak tanks better, shiny but dont ruin the good tanks in this moment. Dont give them massive nerfs because no one will play them if you do.

[wide badge]

They gonna make it more heavium, don't worry

[south helm]

They're a firm. Firms aim to make money. Do the math.

[blazing lodge]

oh god 3.2k dpm on a tech tree tank

[potent stratus]

the only change I want to see is E4 with AP/APCR instead of APCR/HEAT

[next knot]

i had this idea which you may not agree with me but give is-7 a 490 alpha and a 12 s reload

[raw ginkgo]

give is-4 20mm more of hull armour, and leave it as it is

[fiery zodiac]

they planned to buff the upper plate back?

[loud nebula]

They better give the is4 its old armor cuz the current one is just terrible,and the gun depression and you cant really play hull down in it and also it says 420 alpha dmg,but in game it does like 350 dmg

[ember idol]

No good reason to do so 💤

[cinder gyro]

Autoloaders of blitz is more of a product of lazy design consumables on certain tanks
Bc 25 t is imo more toxic than previous TVP and TVP was annoying cause the clip and relative troll armor
Kranvagen still has its consumables
Fv 4005 is balanced
t77 and obj 752 have too much armor on turret and edges of their hull(way too durable)
And BC borrasq is t 100 but better in tier 8
How to fix: reduce HP pull compared to some single shoot tanks if very lazy
And remove the faster intraclip consumables for tanks with less than 3 seconds intraclip

[left nova]

Firms, especially game firms care about what their playerbase think. I mean they should care. If you look the previous days of WG , any other firm they listen to their communities. Not always but they do so if we say what we want from them they will add our decision to their calculation too. If it wont effect the profit they do or if it wont effect too much they can do that

[hexed grotto]

A very easy thing to do would be to REMOVE REACTIVE ARMOR from WZ-113gft, don't you think ?

[narrow raft]

the alpha its count rng but i can say its better with 460 or 440 alpha its better its still a good tank to take things off and its fun but i think youre asking a lot

[next knot]

or just give is-4 tungsten

[unique scaffold]

tungsten on a 420 alpha gun is pointless

[thorny quartz]

Convert premiums to collectors , and make some tier 10 premiums ONLY !!!

[ember idol]

There's a tank that got tungsten despite having 320 alpha lol

[narrow raft]

bad decission

[loud nebula]

JUst give it the old armor so it cant have its whole hull be penned by like the fv

[pine bison]

REPLACE 183 💀

[distant cipher]

Buff 114sp2 armor

[hexed grotto]

yeah fr remove 183, just ruins it's victim's game. I mean 7 min game and in 1 shot most of your game is over, like bruv.

[hollow rune]

skill issue

[wide badge]

From what the leaks says, if that whats gonna happen, it have 9mm more hull ufp armor and more dpm

[cinder gyro]

Nah fv 183 players are the most predictable ones, just stay away and have cover(I also hate when their big shells hits but what can you do, realistically only their snapshooting ability should be thrown out the windon)

[loud nebula]

yea 9 mm,atleast 185 mm

[distant cipher]

Nerf is-4 💀

[next knot]

give chieftain a second gun with hesh like on the fv4202

[hexed grotto]

I mean lesta removed 183 and I think wot PC has also done something about 183 ( like removed it or made it collector i m not sure) but atleast do something about it WG. Yeah this snapshotting ability should be removed.

[blazing lodge]

it was made a collector tank eons ago, i think like 2018 on PC if i'm not mistaken

[hollow rune]

just nerf the ap pen and its already losing a big advantage

[loud nebula]

so what are they gonna do,remove the whole line?

[cinder gyro]

Well entire British tech tree is a mess(tier 10 are not logical continuation of the tech line counterparts)
Badger should replace FV 183
Chief 6 is so power creep that it can be turned into medium and replace fv 4202
Super conq makes more sense than fv 215b
But that ain't happenin
Besides if you wanna nerf 183 you should also nerf obj 268 and Jag e100(far better derpers)

[narrow raft]

right

[heady harness]

more alpha for the grille but less hp and same dpm

[hexed grotto]

Dude just summarised A part of British line in a nutshell, hats off.
Agreed these derpers should be nerfed, they kinda ruin game

[fiery zodiac]

no they won't, they are wargambling and not Lesta

[blazing lodge]

that's exactly what they did with the waffentrager actually, the entire line except the waffle was moved to collectors iirc
(i can't find the tech tree from that era to cross reference but at least tiers 3-5 were made collectible)

[errant linden]

a

[cinder gyro]

Bigger issue I have is their on movement dispersion and aim time and some tank traverse speed but in general they are less toxic than autoloader which are dearpers with extra steps

[next knot]

give badger ap/apcr

[loud nebula]

yea but what are they gonna do about the current players that already have the badger,Refund them?

[nocturne hinge]

Where can i see the changes or are they not released yet?

[humble eagle]

replace 215b183 in tech tree with badger since badger is more in line with the rest of it's tree and make 183 collector and put 2 guns on 4005 which is the 123mm and 183mm to be more in line too with the turreted big boom tanks

and make 4202 tier 8 premium and put centurion ax in the tier 10

[hexed grotto]

Agreed to your td points. Noble Sir what are your thoughts for AMX 50B as you said Derpers with extra steps 😂

[ember idol]

Can't really put the Badger in the tech tree considering they're already monetizing it

Your best bet is to find another alternative to it

[lapis anvil]

A part of them will be released in a couple of hours in #coming-soon

[cinder gyro]

Amx 50 b outside coordinated VC platoons and tourneys is garbo even with spalliner the worst equipment that was made you cannot fix a fv 4005 but with HP and troll armor in that 10% of time

[fiery zodiac]

The FV205b Aligator, like Lesta

[humble eagle]

to be fair, 183 also turns into a collector so it goes hand in hand with the transfer of status. or they should maybe idk give players free british tier 7 or 8 premium to players who have badger in their garages to compensate

[ember idol]

There's also the Chieftain CTR to go to

[hexed grotto]

Yeah it is somewhat playable now with reactive Armor but overall garbage tank alone, sides can be he'd by lt and mt they eat my tank like ants with all HE.

[cinder gyro]

Just make a tortoise with no tumor and stronger super structure
Give it 450 alpha and Hesh

[lofty iris]

Here’s a good balance change wargaming, you don’t want FAST battles then take out the 183, don’t have new players buying tier 10s off the bat and get differently variety of maps… whoever wins med side or heavy’s side first the game collapses for the other side… and most of the time it’s an outnumber on one of the sides so it’s whoever knows that first.

Secondly if you want the bad tanks to shine and the good tanks to balanced then why are you buffing the e50m to the max. It’s the stb1… everyone single game new and abuse.

[loud nebula]

also PLS buff the t95e6s turret armor and remove the CUPOLA OR JUST MAKE IT SMALLER

[cinder gyro]

E 50 m cannot be fixed unless they make its turret prammo proof
T95e6 is the og E5 and plays compleatly differently(you are a medium hunter/heavyum)
ATM i just wanna see BC killed(that thing has the most stupid set of spalliner/HE resistance intraclip, dpm and size) just kill the tank by removing consumables and equipment or increase the intraclip to +3s and keep consumables)

[humble eagle]

how to prolong battles: 10v10

[mystic gorge]

They don’t have the integrity/courage that Lesta does to do what needs to be done. 183 will sadly remain

[loud nebula]

make it as big at wot

[cinder gyro]

or just nerf everyones mobility by 20 KM/h remembre cannot yolo if you are slow

[autumn zodiac]

Can we please make 4202 not garbage for one update? That nerf to the HESH gun was uncalled for

[humble eagle]

centurion action x from wot pc is the answer. no more garbage nerfs or buffs to a tank that is hard to balance in a ever-changing meta

[true wasp]

LET THE E50M DPM BUFF COME NOW YOU WROTE THAT THE BUFF WILL COME BUT IT DID NOT COME

[cinder gyro]

fv 4202 should be turned into a light tank, then get a HE+ like blackdog and RU, then give it more mobility bur remove turret armor, and then make vicker light a medium

[odd merlin]

A second gun for vz55 auto loader 2 shells with less damage

[last lark]

E6 doesn’t need a change to it, it’s perfect in its current state

[loud nebula]

the cupola

[wide badge]

Pleasez give justice to fv 4202

[stone orbit]

E6 is already really powerful
It really doesn't need more buffs

[jagged forge]

Maus will just cry

[rose briar]

Keep dreaming

[amber yacht]

You guys at Wargaming say, "we want to reduce the amount of turbo-battles that occur". Then why would you nerf overall armor, buff penetration, and nerf HP as well? The equipment changes just made it to where it's a no-brainer decision instead of choosing which equipment would suit the tank for the playstyle you want to play. You also buffed viewrange (both equipment and for lights) so tanks are spotted quicker, yet buff camo as well? I think overall, the HP of tanks should be more balanced, as well as not making as many tanks have 3k+ dpm. Autoloaders as well are super deadly and a platoon can easily take out another tier 10.

[last lark]

Doesn’t need that change to it, it isn’t about its armor. It’s about the gun and Mobility and the fact it easily deals with mediums.

[fiery zodiac]

Less draw pls, as it's mainly why f2p newbie have access to tier 10. But once again, as WarGambling, they just can't

[dense lodge]

Pikpikker tech tree

[hexed grotto]

Noble Sir here spitting FACTS. WG pls note this.

[loud nebula]

❤️‍🔥

[fathom glacier]

Give back 640 alpha dmg for grille 15 🙏

[loud nebula]

too op

[autumn zodiac]

So your solution to putting 4202 back to where it was is making it a worse tank?

[floral terrace]

Increase turret armour 💀

[little heron]

They need to go back to the beginning of when the game first came out for devices. Use all the maps they have designed instead of swapping each season. Take votes on what maps are good, what need changes, what needs to get scrapped. How about bringing back the original 2 to 3 maps they started with in 2014. One of those maps is still used but was totally revamped, the OG is much better.

Then tanks, you can play a specific tank for a month and master it so well, get a M or more everyday. Then you go play it and it sucks. That is because WG with their meta reads how you play, they slow you down in tanks you start doing really well in.

Then all the money WG wants you to spend. Some of us loyal tankers deserve to have a better 10th Anniversary prizes/gifts than what has been presented.

Oh, no more paying or grinding for XP? How about you pay us back WG for the coin and gold we used to become 100% ? Let's screw our older longer playing game enthusiasts than the new game players who have no clue, buy tier 10 tanks with only 100 battles and report you because you call them useless, nub, idiot, and so on. Really WG, how soft you gonna be.

Wg you really need to look at what you are doing is it advantageous for you or us!!!???

[humble eagle]

it is a very fun and competitive tank but with the current meta and 95% of playerbase unhappy with it(i am happy with the way it is) and it will never change. the most sane option is to follow wotpc and just put cent ax into it's place and tier 8 4202 or make it a collector. i recommend to others who have the equipment and hasn't played wotpc to try it(public test) and you can tell that cent ax is balanced and perfect as a successor to 7/1

[next knot]

get rid of fv215b 183 and add this instead

[rotund dagger]

never seen that tank before...

[cinder shard]

(You might want to change your name and picture, no political stuff allowed here)

[zealous mural]

Why buff the e6 cupola, it's a cupola..

[gusty geyser]

Is Obj. 263 strong?? I have Tier X Tanks: IS7, T110E5, Minotauro, Maus. Thinking about getting Obj. 263 next cause it Deals most damage what do you guys think

[zealous mural]

Go ahead it has good armor but I suggest the e50m because mobility armor and getting buffed

[uneven turtle]

It doesn’t

[cyan shale]

absolutely not

[runic sinew]

This can’t possibly be worse than 10.3

[cinder shard]

It isn't bad so to say, but it's armor got nerfed a little when it got pbr and the gun is a bit derpy.
Because it has no gun-depression, it needs map knowledge too.

[edgy shard]

WZ 113 GFT needs a buff

[fresh crane]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17800533426298923867

[runic sinew]

You’re not using the tank properly. I really hope the 62a doesn’t get changed though

[unique scaffold]

The grille needs higher alpha and slower reload and needs to not be nerfed for once

[uneven turtle]

It’s called a heavium

[nimble copper]

Imo T62a needs a front hull armor nerf, right now it's 140mm thick, that's literally the same as is4, except 62's hull have more steep angle

[obtuse sentinel]

Mediums don't need a nerf rn. All tier 10 mediums are fine as they are

[uneven turtle]

I played 215b

It’s a good tank
You just don’t know how to play it

[scenic hazel]

Why nerf jaggero?

[arctic python]

for the m6y changes, did the base aim time actually change or are the changes to aim time only linked to the increased top speed ?
also wtf, e6 was already obnoxious enough, they didn't need to make the hatch even more troll
@unique scaffold I'm betting on the base aim time being unchanged, and the change in aim time only coming from the increased top speed

[surreal basin]

why the hell are they buffing e50m its good rn

[unique scaffold]

yoh aim time 5.4?

[waxen osprey]

Why is leopard and yag being nerfed?????

[hexed grotto]

Why Nerf JgPze100 ??? For Lord For God you will not touch WZ113gft or Fv183 but ruining JgPz ???????? Are you drunk ?

[next knot]

the jg is well idk

[uneven turtle]

Having bad teammates does not equate to fv215b being a bad tank

[civic nebula]

they have not listed all balance changes yet. if you read carefully you would have seen that they would post all nations over the course of the next 3 days

[unique scaffold]

They made E100's 152mm even worse omg

[blissful surge]

Why have War gaming got a such a love for apcr

[arctic python]

leo is getting a buff, adaptive armor is huge

[vital lagoon]

@brisk cedar Those numbers are without Gun rammer? If so stock E100 gun would have 2900+ dpm. I´m not against it though, just asking 😄

[coarse karma]

Why even nerf the e-100 150mm bruh

[plain wagon]

They are too popular and WG needs to give E50M a spotlight

[neat sentinel]

Because these are very tough OP tanks now. Their number in battles is steadily growing from version to version and due to the gameplay features of these tanks, this leads to a greater number of turbo battles, which generally has a bad effect on the system.

[unique scaffold]

Jag OP haha

noooooooooo what is thiss

[hexed grotto]

Seriously Jag op hahahahahhaha, Big hit box no turning speed just a big box for easy hp. Bruv fr

[uneven turtle]

Leo is a more skill centered tank bruh what is the dev team on

You’re buffing e50m to be op and you’re calling leo op?

[low tapir]

Jag and leo op haha. (Jag no comment, and leo high skill cap tank)

[waxen osprey]

number of battles increases = OP?
I take back what i said on the leo its actually getting a fair ish treatment, the yag's is completely unnecessary

[open lake]

If you ever watch any jg videos on YouTube you would know how bad it actually is in the current meta

[runic sinew]

Leopard has been noobified. Very sad

[next knot]

the jg should be fine in the next update cuz currently it has 3.8 s aiming time

[rose briar]

More tank balance since they forgot to translate this to English

[arctic python]

I want a clarification for the yoh aimtime, is there a change in base aimtime or is the change in the displayed value caused by the top speed increase ?
@rose briar lesta != wegee

[verbal leaf]

lesta isnt the same as eu/apac/na

[eager spindle]

xdd

[shut solstice]

I honestly thought there would be a more of a fight here saying that the leopard is going to be op with adaptive concealment.

[blissful surge]

Why apcr standard why not make it a choice for heat or apcr premium cuz apcr ruins everything

[grand lagoon]

It's from WG russian speaking server

[naive venture]

Artificial slowing of game

[ebon dagger]

Buff 114 sp2 turret, upper and side hull armor. Sp2 is super heavy with joke armor now. + buff accuracy

[shrewd bronze]

buff SP1C when

[elfin wharf]

why nerf the leo lmao

[unique scaffold]

Russia Server better Update on EU Server 🙈

[cinder shard]

@rotund sphinx and I approve 👀

[latent ermine]

I don't really agree the changes for the E100, while losing its alpha damage, the reload time isn't changed. The e100 dpm is already painful, but now with less alpha.. Its gonna be very bad. The 12.8cm would be a better choice then.

[remote sluice]

buddy how are jag and leo OP? 💀🙏 they can only be OP if the ppl playing them are great players

[hexed grotto]

why so many dislikes for Japan ?? imo apart from Type 71 stb and ho ri are ok.

[neat sentinel]

Weakening some tanks (OP) and strengthening other tanks is a completely normal story within the framework of the meta change. You shouldn't expect that the meta at level 10 will be static and will always be like it is now.
The entire previous year, the meta was Leo and STB, now it's time for other tanks to be OP.
As for Yaga - after she was given tungsten shell, her metrics (damage dealt, win rate, number of battles) went up, which subsequently began to have too much of an impact on the entire system as a whole. This is not ok and we decided to weaken her.

[clear shuttle]

all the japanese changes are all right, the stb didnt even get that much of a "nerf"

[rose briar]

Come again?
They didn't even translate E3 balance change to English.

[uneven turtle]

Leo was never meta

[blissful surge]

Who would even grind for the 150mm anymore makes the tank pointless almost getting to dawn of the maus

[shut solstice]

what are you on about, it's getting a 2 second reload buff
edit: nevermind that's stupid then

[thorny timber]

thats for the 122mm, which kind of looks better for the e100 at this point

[cinder shard]

Also: <@&481447501690568709>

[latent ermine]

do you see any reload changes for the 15cm gun? The answer is No. Its only the 12.8cm that's getting a reload buff.

[unique scaffold]

Will 113gft get nerfed

[haughty jasper]

I don't think "more times in battles" == OP tank. In addition, Leo's skill based tank. One small mistake can make you vanish.
On the other hand, E50M gets stupid buff, which will lead to more and more yolo rushed because this tank will have armor, mobility, DMG, everything... Will be Leo with armor. I hope you did a test and recheck everything before these changes...

[open lake]

Yes Leo is clearly op since even players going up to 65% are doing “very good” in it

[unique scaffold]

E100's 152mm is almost useless now

[neat sentinel]

Top 2 by battle and Top 2 by damage at level 10 among medium tanks. Totally not meta....🌚

[remote sluice]

lmao there is no way the 215b is struggling that bad 😭🙏

[arctic python]

leo is incredibly skill-based, and you'd have to look at 75%ers to see high level play in it
it's not a problem that it gets buffed, because only players that already dominated in it will be able to take advantage of the changes

[small crane]

Ho-Ri gets another buff
bleh

[eager spindle]

when wz td meta

[dry compass]

bat chat and wz gft nerfs where

[lost crane]

Imo the leo changes are not even a nerf, it's more a change in the gameplay, but don't forget, it will have better top speed due to gear oil, better sniping ability due to adaptative concealment, and it trade this for the pre 10.3 dpm (and don't forget that leo 1 will still be among the mt with the best dpm)

And for everyone, we have way more changes that will be revealed in the next 2 days, so just wait the all thing before crying

@DragonsEye so, the lowest dpm among any mt, with around 3-3,1k dpm with only 330 alpha isn't enough as a nerf ?

[hexed grotto]

I take it back disliking Japan changes, why you ain't nerfing stb armor wg ? and that monster pen for type 71 ?? fr WG

[scenic hazel]

They still nerf leopard’s gun depression, like why? It has no armor and they wanted users to expose their tank more

[deft jasper]

Oh so u are trying to change the meta huh. How about u nerf the real op tanks? What about the stb1 and wz113gft? The leo 1 needs skill and that's enough of a nerf.

[next knot]

atleast type 71 will be more played

[open mist]

So i wanna say something about the 6 yoh(120mm), yes, it is op but instead of absolutely DECIMATING the accuracy maybe reduce the alpha to 400 or 380?

[cinder shard]

Something that could be done to increase the average time a battle lasts is to introduce an Autoloader-limit, since these tanks are the ones that can deal the most damage in short time but also vanish the fastest when caught at the wrong time.

[unique scaffold]

Is 113GFT getting NERF or nah

@unkempt quest cmon bro let us know
Dont tell us chages just say if its nerf

[unkempt quest]

The only changes i'm not okay with are: the combination of giving the E50M both reactive armor consumable and buffed armor stats, and the dpm nerf of the Leopard 1.

I'll elaborate more once i get home and properly review the changes

[unkempt quest]

It was confirmed to be nerfed. Wait for the changes to be posted, wargaming said the posts will be over the next few days in batches

[grand lagoon]

This place is just a whole mess

[unique scaffold]

better idea, increase the time between shells to 3 seconds and reduce the clip reload by the same amount of time. then you don't lose dpm but the gun is less disgusting

[unkempt quest]

So people can think before they post here

[blissful surge]

I see alot of down hill they say its good for the game until it's dead

[open lake]

That’s why the Leo getting nerfed when most of the player base can’t play the Leo doesn’t make sense

[clear shuttle]

stb still gonna top every medium 😍🤩
except maybe the e-50m

[west quail]

E50M now will become the most OP med ever lmao

[obtuse sentinel]

LOL the Leopard is considered OP??? That's actually just wild

[arctic python]

I'm actually fine with the leo changes, with the dpm nerf and new mechanic it'll completely change the playstyle to something a bit closer to the wz132, and adaptive concealment more than makes up for the nerfs
@unique scaffold @open mist for all we know, the aimtime changes could be because of the top speed increase, with no changes to base aimtime

[unkempt quest]

@arctic python in my eyes the whole point of the leo was it having the highest dpm of all meds. Now with this change that won't be true anymore

[lost crane]

I agree about the E50 M, more armour or reactive armour would be enough to make it really good.
But for the léo 1, I don't see how it is overall a nerf, the tank will be faster, more sneaky with the mechanics... I mean, these changes are not necessary, but it feels more like a change, rather than a buff or a nerf
Btw, the Léo 1 will still have the best dpm among MT, which tank will have more ? (and imo, the dep nerf is the most problematic change)

[frozen vine]

Where's the WZ-113G FT nerf?
Please tell me?
It was spammed during TOURNAMENT season as hell and still is...
But no nerf? Just remove the reactive armor. Done! Fixed!

" Reducing the survivability of tank destroyers against medium tanks and light tanks."
Now tell me! Why then Ho-Ri and WZ-113G FT got reactive armor in the first place?

[hard lake]

what am I gonna do with 7 degrees of gun depression in a paperless leopard

yes bro might as well give it 500 alpha and 60km/hr in reverse

[scenic hazel]

Dont worry they will fix it by adding reactive armor wooo

[worn heron]

the changes are so random lol, leo nerf? wtf i dont remember seeing it in battles

[latent ermine]

Also as a matter of fact, e100 with the currently planned 12,8cm buff will now feature 2.8k dpm fully equipped without Rammer, so it will be around 2.9k dpm with it. THAT'S CRAZY FOR A SUPER HEAVY! Plz dont do that.💀

[glossy silo]

Give grille more gun depression for down

[molten cosmos]

HORRIBLE balance changes, yall at WG have no idea what you are doing, me and other youtubers kept telling you to forget about stupid changes like the leo one, u guys clearly don't care about your community, these changes are game breakingly bad... the only positive change is making the 128mm good on the E100, otherwise please throw this whole idea out of the window

[shut solstice]

finally, someone gets that giving that tank camo and adaptive concealment might be a huge buff that needs to be offset

[unique scaffold]

why would you give a super heavy that much dpm just buff the armour or something it's way easier.

[eager spindle]

"Reducing the survivability of tank destroyers against medium tanks and light tanks."

proceeds to buff grille, hori and nerfs the leo

[next knot]

just wait

[narrow raft]

E 100 gun 128 now its better than gun 152 mm lmao

[rapid tapir]

better aim time for vk90 tho

[left nova]

Yes , lol if the changes are like that I m happy to fight with WZ 113 GFT

[latent ermine]

tbh, the easiest way to make the battles last longer, its just to reduce the dpm every single tanks lol

[hard lake]

now watch the 183 get 0.210 dispersion and 3 second aiming time 😭

[neat sentinel]

WZ is also expecting some changes. After 11.3, it will become more difficult to play on it.🥷

[edgy shard]

We will see

[thorny timber]

i dont like the looks of that ninja. is it gonna become a sniper?

[arctic python]

eh, I like the sheridan changes too, although I think it should have gained a bit more alpha on the HE
the changes are not that bad, I wouldn't even say the leo change is horrible, it'll just totally change the playstyle
most of the changes are slight, and should therefore not affect the balance too much, except for the e50m changes which might make it a bit too powerful

[unkempt quest]

I love how the community chooses to ignore the 'changes will be posted over the next 3 days', then complain how some tanks aren't being changed

[gleaming apex]

chelli_coll was banned.

[west quail]

Did this channel's feedback ever get into consideration or does it not matter? Just curious since I don't usually check it.

[unkempt quest]

It does afaik

[lost crane]

Yeah, almost as if they can't understand a simple thing and juste wanted to complain

[neat sentinel]

Wait next pack pictures with changes

[obtuse sentinel]

The Leopard change is just straight up stupid. It's the worst performing tier 10 tank and Wargaming is like yeah let's nerf it even more. You guys at the balancing department have meatloaves for brains

[unique scaffold]

that would be like the singular good change you'd make this update seeing the current proposed changes already.

[runic sinew]

What’s with the e100 nerf?

[frozen vine]

Nowhere (that there will be next pack of pics) it was mentioned, so I expected these images are FINAL.

EDIT: My bad, you are right...

[unkempt quest]

Yes there was, read annoucnements properly

[eager spindle]

with 80% of people here being clueless i cant blame them
obviously meta tanks liks wz td will get nerfed and obviously those are not all the changes yet

[civic topaz]

#coming-soon message

At the very bottom

[narrow raft]

next X grille 15 lmao

[nocturne mauve]

Why would they change the e50m’s shell velocity

[west harness]

Wheres WZ nerf WG ?

[brisk cedar]

The other nations will be added over the next three days. Just the way I wrote in the announcement

Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil, as we Germans like to say

[thorny timber]

is each tank in t10 getting changed, or are there any exceptions?

[left nova]

I hope changes will not be like the leaks

[brisk cedar]

Wait and see

[molten cosmos]

Punishing people for being good at the game by nerfing high-skill tanks like the Leo while overbuffing braindead hulldown meds like the E50M by giving it more armor and reactive armor, none of which the tank needs... congrats guys great balancing team you have

[arctic python]

I'm guessing you already have all the images prepared, is the 50b getting a nerf or a buff ?

[keen notch]

Will the update lead to devices crashing while playing?

[west quail]

Leo is the very last German line that I'd need to grind but suddenly it doesn't feel so urgent

[obtuse sentinel]

None of these changes are promising. If anything it's proving that Wargaming are absolutely clueless and have no idea which direction they want to take this game. Time and time after again, they have a tendency to overcook vehicles that are performing well and to nerf vehicles that need help. Honestly it's absolutely incredible that Wargaming even considered changing the Leopard 1 in the first place.

[lost crane]

a nerf, mostly (worst aiming time is the more significant)

[latent ermine]

I dont agree the E50M changes, the tank gonna be even more annoying to play up against. With its reactive armor, dpm buff AND armor buff on the sides. The tank will dominate the other mediums. You will just need 1 med on your side and yolo the medium flank by activating reactive armor. That's a stupid idea ngl.

[unique scaffold]

they're buffing tanks that were already way too good like the concept and the xm and the e50m (to name a few) and they're nerfing all the mid tanks. it's like they're trying to reinforce the meta instead of change the meta like they're proposing which is very contradictory of them.

another contradiction is them buffing the grille and hori and then nerfing meds like the leo (and 30b if the leaks were true)

the fact that the dpm machines are losing the thing that made them good is sad

[runic sinew]

All 3 of those tanks are mid.

[hard lake]

we could expect next update E50M yolos and game ending in less than 2 minutes if wg goes on with these changes

[limpid canopy]

^^^
E50M is a very strong tank why would you even buff it in the first place

[river stream]

Grille buffs are undercooked. Give it better on movement dispersion if you dont plan on giving it's alpha buff and better side gun depression. Remove reti cal

Come on at least make it more interesting to play as 2nd line

[unkempt quest]

it isn't a second line tank...

[oak raptor]

You can already second line or front line in grille lol

[west quail]

Not to worry, reducing the number of players in these tanks will be achieved this way
~~talk about turbo battles in Tier VII though ~~

[lost crane]

For all the people who talk about the WZ 113G FT (and other unkown changes), please, juste read the message #coming-soon message .
Is it hard to understand "THREE DAYS" ?
@arctic python are you kidding me ?

[wind ruin]

every ones angy at wargaming cus of the shite changes lmao

[thorny timber]

3 days of hell,so it is

[unkempt quest]

yes
this is the blitz community we're talking about. i've said it countless times before: i think reading comprehension doesn't exist here

[latent ermine]

Why not gathering all the top players/clans and cooperate with WG for making the game balance changes. With people that at least know the game more (on the battlefield,etc...).💀

[arctic python]

btw, you should probably add at the bottom that the changes will come over the next 3 days, otherwise people will keep complaining that the 113gft didn't get nerfed
@lost crane I know they're at the top, but you're severely overestimating the reading comprehension level of most of the server

[low tapir]

Hi man^^
Love your discord name lmao

[left nova]

They forgot what day are we in , its not April 1 yet

[gray field]

Wg did you guys forget to eat your crayons with this new buffs and nerfs on the coming soon page??

[tacit moon]

Balancing meds against TDS: making a meta class stronger against a class that isn't even used in competitive.

[molten cosmos]

exactly bro what's the point of the Leo and the 30B if they lose the stat which makes them good aka DPM... this is the stupidest idea I've ever seen man this game is cooked if they go through with this. we'll have an E100/E50M/E3/Type71 yolo meta XDDDD let's encourage braindead gameplay guys

[narrow raft]

grille got any changes in the alpha or nah?

[grand lagoon]

No

[unkempt quest]

let's not use that term here

[unique scaffold]

the fact that wargaming staff called the leopard op proves that they have no idea what they're talking about.

need i tell you all about the fact that they cant play their own game.

i was gonna get this on my pc that I'm getting for my 18th but i guess not worth it if the balance changes happen lol

(off topic but i believe that we have a mutual friend called Grand if I'm not mistaken)

[obtuse sentinel]

Fun fact: Wargaming devs do not play their own game and are completely out of touch with their playerbase. I'll be abusing tier 10 matches with E-50M platoons with other unicums in order to prove my point once the new update drops

[arctic python]

e50m meta is definitely coming, and it'll be painful, e100 is not going to be meta, type is probably going to be the new meta for heavies, unless there's a better one in another nation
the high DPM medium meta was obnoxious, I'm glad it's gone, armorless meds need to focus more on camo instead

[wind ruin]

the stock e100 gun buff is nice

[edgy rock]

It's top 2, yes, sorted from lowest to highest

I'm aware, but it's the reason he gave for leopard being meta, so I don't see why that invalidates what I said

[lone warren]

Grille buff big W

[west quail]

Great idea, time to buff something cooler, my WR 😎

[unkempt quest]

damage isn't everything...

[mystic gorge]

Are the stat changes shown including equipment and provisions or are these base stats?

[unkempt quest]

the changes are always with base stats

[remote sluice]

imo VK 72.01K losing an entire second of reload is kinda too much

[molten cosmos]

@unkempt questI legit didn't say anything bad lol

@unique scaffold facts man they are clueless apparently, also I do know Grand :)

also why is there a 5 min delay on this channel lmao

[unkempt quest]

we don't use the term breaindead here

the slowmode is so people can actually think before posting, or that's the idea

[gray field]

Is bot a acceptable alternative ^

[unique scaffold]

better idea: they actually ask experienced players like Peter on their opinions, then they can actually make balanced decisions in the game instead of making guesswork (which inevitably fails)

[limpid canopy]

a good balance change would fr be nerfing most the tanks theyre planning to buff and buffing/not touching the ones they're planning to nerf (mostly)
atleast change the meta so its not always the same

[neat sentinel]

Don't you think that this is a rather unrepresentative sample? Considering that the real number of battles is hundreds of times greater. Therefore, it does not even come close to the real picture in the system.

[unkempt quest]

you have no idea the amount of data wargaming uses to make changes

[obtuse sentinel]

botbrain gameplay incoming next update ❗ ❗ ❗

[left nova]

Everyone going so wild

[ionic egret]

the buffs grille is getting are not enough imo

[modern heart]

can we please bring back the old AMX 50B

[lone warren]

Lets keep messages constructive and productive, it's a nice opportunity to be able to directly talk to an employee so lets make the best use of it

[edgy rock]

Sorry for doubting this, but I don't have access to any of this data that you have (which I'm not saying I should), so this is the best data I have to judge it's average performance.

[snow bear]

The leaked balance changes arent final

[unkempt quest]

needlessly critisizing everything will not do anyhing but cause everyone frustration
try your best to give constructive feedback please

[latent ermine]

WG, please rework you balance changes, some of them are good , but most of them are bad. If you really want a good game balance changes, the easier way to do, its to:

-1: Make a survey that lists every single tanks at T10 and let the community answer on if, the tank need a buff, a nerf OR NOTHING

-2: By following the first part, just make another survey on which will gather the results of first survey on tanks that have been chosen to get a buff, or a nerf (Lets say that grill was picked as "needs a buff"). With that second survey, ask which characteristics of the tank needs a change, either it's penetration, dpm, armor, accuracy, etc... (with the grill example, lets say that we voted that the tank need a DPS buff).

-3: Discuss about the needed changes that the tank need in your company, and then share the results to YOUR COMMUNITY. You need the community to approve the changes.

That's the easiest way to do. It will imply for the community to have an impact to the game developments, and fairness.

[molten cosmos]

that would be so good I loved the 2022 50B

at least we'd have 1 positive thing to say about these changes XDD

[rough sandal]

E100 top gun lost 20 alpha for no reason

[desert relic]

Why are they nerfing almost all shell velocities 😭
It doesn't make these tanks less annoying to fight but it sure makes them more annoying to play and make the whole game just less responsive 🫤

@.mahir. sorry but asking communities has almost never ended up in a good decision for any games

[quick lichen]

Ah yes. Surveying the community where the average win rate is 48%. I’m sure sensible decisions will come from this

[unique scaffold]

the best kind of data they can use, is by asking the most experienced players about their thoughts. I genuinely think the game could be way more balanced if we let experienced and skilled players influence how the balance changes are because whatever they're doing simply isn't working at the moment

[left nova]

Can we please dont kill the Carro because I dont think no one would love that to happen. Nerf it but dont overdose

[lost crane]

These stats are the average stat you can find on blitz star or blitz analysis. 1,446 battles isn't a total, but an average number of battles (created with all the players with more than 100 battles in the tank). These are not total stats, but the only average stat that we can found.
But I understand that we don't have access to anything (and I guess you can't just share these type of information).
But anyway, imo, most of these changes are interesting, only the E50 M is kinda overbuff, with too much armour, speed and dpm at the same time (and Reactive armour is the cherry on the cake).

[west quail]

It is a nice opportunity indeed, but are we being listened to?
I would say the Leo was great as it was and didn't require any modification since it had a unique playstyle
The 6-Yoh was also good as it was, since its better stats was the main thing that distinguished it from the 5-Yoh
E-50-M was great as it was, now it will become OP, completely encouraging turbo battles even more
Needless to say, these changes aren't that good
And if the community has a low winrate, does that justify these changes?

[obtuse sentinel]

Bravo and well said! What's the point of feedback when Wargaming simply doesn't care or listen anyways???

[oak raptor]

Are we playing the same game? Since when leo was meta?

[unkempt quest]

who says they don't?

[modern heart]

yeah, there are many changes i'd love to see, but i think everyone can agree that the 50B was best and most fun with its 3x400 gun

[frozen vine]

These balance changes are already in final state, this "discussion" won't change anything. They are already decided, what will come on 11.3. This is just "discussion" if we like them or not.

[grave isle]

This tbh.

[civic topaz]

Open test might be the last opportunity to change something.

[unkempt quest]

imo it was a mobile version of the T57 Heavy at the time. now it feels like a tvp with higher burst output, which is better imo.
i'm curious to see what the changes will be

[hexed grotto]

Give 2 guns to 50B. Current one and 2022 with 3 shells. Lets us players decide which style to play just like 6yoh.

[latent ermine]

Yes, absolutely. Same as the old wz113g ft, when it was not popular and was balanced..

[dense shell]

Such as? Its one of the most difficult tanks to play in tier 10. The average winrate reflects this. Where on earth are you getting the notion the tank is “meta”

[rough sandal]

Still better than what the wargaming team is doing , doing random nerfs( Maus, E100 and others) and buffing E50m when it didn't needed it, 80% of those changes are done by a team that doesn't even play the game probably, so yeah a survey is better compared to who is doing those balance changes now

[gray field]

Literally every time i joined open test and sent them emails not one single person at wg has ever responded to my emails. Open test is a joke imo.

[quick lichen]

Hah. Hah.

[unique scaffold]

Where can I see all of the balance changes?

[ashen scarab]

Rip Leopard 1. I wouldnt think they would continue with the changes but they did
Might aswell remove the tank from game

[unkempt quest]

#coming-soon

[quick lichen]

They don’t listen to the super testers. What makes you think they’d listen to randoms?

[unkempt quest]

they do though?

[onyx mulch]

E100 lost 20 dmg from the topgun but dint decrease the reload
And the point o incresing reload was to add alpha dmg, but they removed the alpha dmg and reload remained the same, WOW

[quick lichen]

Not when I was testing they didn’t

[west quail]

Gotta love the bureaucracy

[unkempt quest]

as a supertester, they most definitely do listen

[vital lagoon]

@neat sentinel Hello sir, do you know if the DPM values shown on the balance changes are all without gun rammer?

[unkempt quest]

it'd seem rather pointless to set up an entire department focused on testing and gathering feedback and then proceed to ignore all of it

[molten cosmos]

agree, at least back then it was a skill-based, fun tank, now people just use it to yolo without thinking and it's so annoying

[unkempt quest]

all the changes are with base values
AKA no equipment, consumables, provisions or crew skills

[lost crane]

Maus is buffed, E100 will finally have a playable 12,8cm gun (and even more a really good ), what are you talking about ?
Biggest nerf is Stb 1, and it was needed

[grave isle]

It would be nice if we had a panel of players or reps of different categories of players which actually would be able to give meaningful input regarding balance changes.

There is a big difference between what stats imply and how it feels when you actually play the game.

I can’t see why this can’t be done.

[left nova]

No one grinds E 100 for its 12,8 cm . What are you talking about? Grind a Maus instead.

[tough trout]

So, we are going to have less turbo battles, if we have an e50m with increased dpm, armour, and reactive, kpz 50t with the great dpm it already has, being even more accurate, but with nerfed Leo. Guess I see the point, maybe…

[rough sandal]

Leadership and who takes the decision's stubbornness Will make you change ideas/ @lost crane they nerfed for no reasons the 150mm( e100 doesn't have an 152mm) and overcrept E50m... Those changes are done by someone who doesn't play the game

[gray field]

@unkempt quest they listen? Really like when we all told them not to bring atgms into blitz yet brought the t-49a in anyway? Or how about the Sheridan when it had the atgm and we all said no get rid of the atgm feature all together....then said okay we will make it a separate tank. Yeah its only in game modes and get nerffed but was that really listening??

[latent ermine]

E100 got a buff considering that yk, a super heavy with 2.8k hp should now get 2.9k dpm with its 12.8cm gun when running rammer, that's good changes.. No point to run the 15cm, the 12.8 is now WAY better.

[quick lichen]

Maybe the new regime is different. When I was playing, they had their own agenda. We were a formality

[obtuse sentinel]

If these changes go live, it only proves that they don't listen. If they do care about player feedback, they'll consider changing some of these nerfs and buffs especially in regard to the E-50M and the Leopard 1.

[worthy basin]

Yes, they do. Sbmm flashbacks, spare parts flashbacks, etc

[modern heart]

clan testing feedback still seems disregarded to me

[worthy basin]

The fact that they don’t always do things as you or I would like them does not mean they don’t listen

[unkempt quest]

@obtuse hazel can answer that best i think

[mystic gorge]

E100 changes are very nice. I’m glad they finally decided to make the 128mm relevant as I’ve been hoping for, for years on end.

Stb changes are not what it needed tbh. Could’ve just nerfed the pramo pen values or the pramo alpha and it would’ve been fine as is.

Honestly the change I’m not ok with are the leopard 1 changes

[worthy basin]

You also have to remember that the people here are but a small fraction of the playerbase - game data may show something else entirely than what is said here

[ashen scarab]

My innocence when they said less turbo battles would possibly mean 10v10 and bigger maps to come

[hexed grotto]

Who grinds e100 for 128mm gun ?????

[neat sentinel]

Well, the more conditions and averages - the higher the chance to distort the data and get a very strange result (which is actually displayed in this table) 🙂
As for the E50M - this is a conscious decision to make it one of the meta tanks for the near future. We will closely look at its results in OT, as well as at the release of changes, and if it becomes obvious that it is too very OP - I have a couple of options for changes 🌚

[fresh gale]

wargaming will destroy this game if we continue with these balance changes. the developers are completely out of touch and have no idea what they are doing ("leo 1 is meta" like bruh). most of these changes are unnecessary or just over-the-top, and will only add to the acceleration of turbo battles that wargaming themselves have taken note of (and yet find a way to make it worse somehow).

i believe if we really want to see actually good balance changes implemented into the game, we should make changes at the core of the issue, the developers themselves. clearly they do not play the game at all nor do they care. I am NOT saying we need blitz no-lifers becoming blitz developers, in fact i believe that is a bad idea. what i AM saying is that we need developers who have a good understanding of how to play the game with the addition of important information that you can get as a developer, and not just a team of devs that rely on data alone or experience alone. we need a dev team that has BOTH.

[unkempt quest]

i definitely think the combination of reactive armor consumable AND armor buffs is too much. either one or the other should be enough, not both

[primal mountain]

I am 🤯 with the proposed changes. Leo 1 is nerfed further and many ultra-strong, heavily armored tanks are buffed further. Just unbelievable.

Did I read correctly that Leo 1 would get only -7 degrees of gun depression 😱

[tough trout]

Well, in this very section, I saw a lot of suggestions, that might really improve the game, but none of them was like “buff e50m, so that it becomes totally insane”, or “destroy the Leo1”… the only time I saw WG listening to the players was when they cancelled sbmm.

[dense shell]

https://tenor.com/view/get-up-stand-up-clapping-angelina-jolie-brad-pitt-gif-14805296

[worthy basin]

The things these changes do is change the meta. They change what tanklines are interesting to grind, give old tanks new purposes etc. It’s not meant to be a perfectly balanced game tier for tier. It’s meant to change things up
(To be clear, I’m definitely not saying I’m agreeing with every change - definitely am not)

[latent ermine]

perhaps, that's to many changes for an already very strong tank. E50m just gonna end up like WZ113G FT, aka giving it so many buffs to a point that its gonna be broken. In the other hands, making tanks that doesn't perform well even worse, such as the leo1.

[neat sentinel]

All values ​​are shown with 100% crew, without equipment and ammunition

[worthy basin]

Then you’ve not been around enough to remember the pain of spare parts and atgm?

[next knot]

at this point just hire peter,he would probably make better balance changes then wg

[worthy basin]

Those two + sbmm are when wg went against what the game data said and just followed what the vocal community said - which is huge in its own way, to be clear

[hexed grotto]

Nicy summarize E50M another wz113gft already good armor with reactive like wth

[ashen scarab]

Idk what type of a grudge they hold for leo 1. Whats next: 6 degrees gundep? Then 5, 4, 3?

[gray field]

Please dont remind us ogs about spare parts 😂

[uneven narwhal]

12.0 patch notes: Leo 1 is removed from the game

[worthy basin]

I’ll do you one worse, that wasn’t stopped: update 5.5 😂

[lost crane]

yeah, that's right, you will still have OT to have more impartial view about how the tank will perform (mainly because it's hard to predict how a change will affect a tank when all the tank changes).

[quasi flax]

Can someone tell me what in the earth the T110E4 is meta??? Their nerfs don't have any sense

And why the leopard nerf?? Now there are no one reason for use it.

[unique scaffold]

plus the free standard ammunition costs as well during the economy update

[unkempt quest]

time to write some actual feedback on the changes

[mint grail]

İnstead of making absurd rebalances, fix your aim system.

[unique scaffold]

Can we quit neutering tanks by giving them apcr standard? It would make sense on a tank like leo or vickers since they have accurate guns but giving it to tanks like xm66 makes no sense and will basically force people to spam gold.

would be nice if the developers gave some reason as to why they do this and do that

[tough trout]

Don’t bring rotten eggs, but I think atgms, in their later versions were quite fun.

[unkempt quest]

read #coming-soon
#coming-soon message

[gray field]

@worthy basin ill raise you 5.5 to back when we had to pay for pramo with actual gold 😂 meh nah i think 5.5 was still worse lol

[open lake]

It’s not really getting nerfed
It’s receiving sandbag armor which means it can get its hp pool to a point that is comparable to heavy tanks
The e4 already plays like a heavy with a way better gun but now it’s going to have heavy tank hp
And it’s armor is really good and the hatch is very cringe to hit even on mobile
If you don’t play the e4 properly than the nerfs won’t make sense but if you know how crazy it can play then you would understand how cringe sandbags is going to make the e4

[worthy basin]

😂😂 nothing worse than 5.5. Not sure about the prammo thing though. I’ve been playing the game since a month after it came out - prammo was already available for credits then afaik

[modern heart]

the large scale issue i see with the direction of balance changes is the constant use of premium consumables, special provisions, and special mechanics. it feels like every battle is turning into a special game mode with tank abilities, which is frustrating to me. is this the intention?

[west quail]

So if less than 1% posts about a game online, does that mean that any feedback and surveys filled out here are completely useless?

[dense shell]

Whats worse is the false equivalency represented by balancing dept. ruin a tanks base values because you gave it a gimmick consumable or ability.

[unkempt quest]

i personally don't see how it's frustrating, since to me it gives players more flexibility as to how to equip their tanks. in the end of the day, how a person equips their tanks is entirely up to them, fine tuning the tank to their needs/playstyle.

i understand how it can be seen as a bad thing, but imo there is a lot of positives that come with it

[latent ermine]

Ight, so for me overall, most of the balance changes are kinda mediocre. Some of them, i do agree and approve, such as the m6 yoh, vk72, stb1 (which received the nerfs that they deserved). Some of them aren't that good, and i totally disagree on, like giving an e100 2.8k dpm is stupid, and mediums that received reactive (m48, m60 and e50m 💀). Some of them are also surprising and random like the e4, just make it a heavy tank like what and the e6, why more armor on a weakspot... And to add on some disappointing changes, like the grill, make it back to its old state!! But overall, yeah a 6/10 for this first part of balance chances.

(forgor to mention that some of the changes are like, "ok why not" like the kfpz 50t, concept, etc)

[remote sluice]

sneak peek on the foch rebalance pls?

[unkempt quest]

no. you didn't read the article peroperly did you?

[gray field]

We need the old grille back. Like when messi was around.

[ashen scarab]

Good luck dealing with the grille now since it has light tank mobility

[unique scaffold]

• stupid consumables
• stupid ammo changes and alpha changes (why does the foch 155 have 190 alpha less than the 268 with a 152mm?)
• Why are they giving apcr standard to any tank at all? Nobody likes it
• Why do we have APCR shells with lower shell velocity than HE shells?
• why are we getting gun depression/elevation nerfs? It makes no sense that a leopard 1, a tank which historically has -9° will have -7° next update, thats the same as the 5a (iirc) and the old t62a.
• why can a t57 drive around a corner and deal 1.2k damage in 3.6s instead of 5s?

[modern heart]

AProfessor, i'm not sure if you're just trying to counter every point I make, without thinking if your counterpoint even makes sense? because that's how it feels

it's not about "allowing flexibility". it's frustrating because if players wanted to play an ability-based mode, there are already several options for this. pub battles have always been a way to avoid this until recently, and now there's no way to avoid it.

Verstappen, not a hot take at all! exactly how it feels. except it makes things worse, because it adds another dimension to balancing which is already such a challenging problem

[uneven turtle]

I’m not gonna bother with tank balancing for a while since I’m not gonna be able to bring constructive feedback in my current state

But is vk72 and fv215b getting pbr soon

[quick lichen]

Hot take. Super consumables are a bandaid for poor balancing decisions

[lost crane]

So imo :
Maus : good changes, not enough since the cali buff (Imo maus needs slightly better armour)
grille : good changes, even if I would like a better alpha, but anyway, still good changes
Kpz 50t : as many mt will loose dpm, kpz will be top 3 (almos ex eaquo with léo 1 and obj 140), so imo, great decision to buff this tank indirectly
VK90 JGpz E100, T95E6 : nothing to say about
VK 72 : the dpm buff is hard, but I will wait till we discover the armour profile with pbr to conclude
Léo 1 : interesting change in gameplay, not really a nerf nor a buff imo, but let's see
E 50 M : overbuff, it shouldn't have a dpm buff AND an armour buff AND reactive armour, imo only 2 of these 3 thing are enought to make it really good
E100 : finally a buff of the 12,8 cm so it will be usefull, the nerf on the 15 cm gun are not needed
STB 1 : the nerfs are deserved, so imo it's a good decision because it will still be unique while not being too strong
Type 71 : let's see, it will have among the lowest dpm for an HT, kinda like a HT version of STB 1, it will probably not become meta, but it will absolutly become more unique
Ho Ri : the dpm buff isn't needed imo
M46 Patton : the dpm buff isn't needed imo, but gear oil is nice
T25 pilot 1 : more top speed would be more usefull (something like 55km/h maybe), but these buff are already nice
Sheridan : interesting buff
I don't really play the other tank, so I can't really provide a feedback
@dense shell you can choose to not read this if you want xD

[dense shell]

Ty for this unwanted wall of text @lost crane ty! Don’t plan on it. Idk why you would assume a point-by-point summary of your take on every vehicle is wanted

[unkempt quest]

i'm simply explaining my point of view and opinions. it just so happens ours clash quite often

[ruby fox]

Cupola buff for the E6..? That tank is played against mediums like 90% of the time and curb stomps them, now they're gonna make it even more troll to deal with...

[glacial zealot]

need delete fv 215 183

[quick lichen]

It’s a medium on console oddly enough

[stone osprey]

ngl these balance changes lowkey hype fr

cant wait to pull up on my opps in e6 with stb getting nerfed

[molten cosmos]

100% agree with _34, basically every tank has special consumables and provisions now and WG keep balancing tanks around consumables which often make no sense... reactive armor on E50M, 113G FT, Ho-ri etc...??? randoms are becoming frustrating because everyone has crazy consumables and mechanics now making it extremely frustrating to play against them... my biggest problem is with spall liner and reactive armor since they both completely remove skill

[next knot]

give is-7 a better pen on ap like 260

[latent ermine]

soon, we'll get 183 with tungsten, reactive, etc

[mystic gorge]

Probably the least hot take I’ve heard today

[obtuse hazel]

Think we've already had a talk about this - but can delve in more detail in DMs if you'd like.

[quick lichen]

I do my best

[unique scaffold]

What i would propose for the E6
Type
Heavy -> medium
Reload
8.25 -> 8.5
Penetration
AP
250 -> 242
HEAT
330 -> 300
Aim time
2.01 -> 1.7
Dispersion
Base
0.345 -> 0.33
On move
0.167 -> 0.15
Hull rotation
0.167 -> 0.15
Turret rotation
Stays same
Top speed
50 -> 55
Health
2350 -> 1900
View range buff to accomodate the new type
Nerf cupola to 210mm

[modern heart]

you told me you don't understand my opinion on pubs becoming game modes, and cited a completely unrelated reason for you liking the current system

you didn't do anything to address the problem I brought up, only tried to shoot down my opinion because you like the system. which is fine for you to like it, but it just feels like you're trying to throw out a counterpoint for the sake of doing it, because you didn't address what i said at all

[ashen scarab]

Slapping consumables on tanks is easier than actually tweaking their numbers in a way which its balanced

[glacial zealot]

need to upgrade the T34 armor
remove fv 215b 183
recycle all the mapss in the game (they are unplayable)
recycle the balance of equipment in battle

[wicked quest]

He’s a contrarian his arguments come down to “I don’t have a problem with it” he holds that exact argument against smasher

On another note oh hell no with that leopard nerf for the love of god STOP USING CONSUMABLES

[covert coyote]

Poor VK 72 got PBR and then got screwed lmao, and we haven't even seen the armor changes yet

[unkempt quest]

from my understanding, your point was that you disliked superconsumables.
i disputed that.

i'm sorry if i offended you in any way and i wish to keep this civil

[cyan coral]

Wow. First of all big congratulations on killing the Leo 1😂

[dense shell]

Ok. Well my opinion is that your opinions are terrible. Go play 10 games in the cs-63. Set it up in various configurations with the super consumables provided. Does any combination of those make the tank enjoyable? No, because its base metrics are awful. To 34s point, its extremely frustrating the game is continually doing this to tier 10 vehicles

[lime wren]

One point, you say you want to reduce turbo games
Another point you say you need to reduce survivability of td against fast tanks, which is the major contribution to the turbo games, like what? 😂
Wg do you even read your own article

[fresh gale]

i think this is why wg doesnt listen to the community. i understand now!

[obtuse hazel]

How would this kill the Leo?

[twilit crystal]

But pretty low in winter

[humble depot]

I don't think that's a hot take at this point: It's a fact.

[modern heart]

fair enough, that's just how it felt to me when my comment was being replied to while not being understood. no worries

[iron hearth]

Why are we nerfing the m48 patton? The tank is no where near meta playable , stop giving apcr as standard shell it's annoying , if you at least increase the shell speed

[ashen scarab]

A tank that has paper armor but works very well with good players because it has excellent gun
What happens if you take the excellent gun?

[mystic gorge]

I feel like your opinion on super consumables is very much in line with the corporation that’s pushing it out rather than what most players want… super consumables were cool for all of maybe a year and now are a crutch for WG to “balance” tanks around instead of actually changing the tank’s stats. They will justify soft buffing or hard nerfing certain tanks around the premise they got reactive, super speed boost, adaptive concealment, etc as an ability when in reality, it just makes the tank’s playstyle more mundane and less effective than what it could be.

To me it just seems like they’re too scared to make actual balance changes and use the consumables as an excuse to avoid changing what actually needs to get changed. @modern heart is very much in line with the same thinking and most players are too

[wicked quest]

Leopard has enjoyed a role of being a fast glass dpm hose WHY would giving it worse reload and reducing its speed be appealing in anyway while they shoved gear oil in its provisions as an attempt to cover the nerfs severity

[unique scaffold]

its based on a medium tank chassis, so it should be a medium, "oddly enough" its still a heavy in blitz
Yeah im aware, as a heavy in blitz its awful,
Why not make it a chinese e4?

[quick lichen]

Sp2 is a glass cannon td as well

[unkempt quest]

while i understand your point, i find it's a good balancing factor.
i already gave my opinion on the matter when replying to 34 and it seems our opinions are completely mirrored so i don't see the point of repeating myself

[gleaming apex]

thomas_501 has been warned.

[storm spoke]

... why are the changes so bad i have no clue what they're doing. usually there's at least some justifiers or good ideas but there's nothing here

[stone osprey]

leo changes gonna be memes, cant wait to see the playerbase try to use the new leo- actually gonna be so funny

[ruby fox]

With the stuff that they've shown, I'm scared to find out what they're gonna do to the other tanks e.g.

-French trio (AMX 50b and its imo TD level of clipping capability, BC 25t and its superb clipping and spotting abilities, Foch 155 which they seem to never know what to do with)

-basically all the autoloader and autoreloaders of the European Tree

[river oracle]

at least m48 got better ig

[humble depot]

What we've seen here is the same as what happened in 10.3. WG does nothing to address the actual problem and simply pushes superconsumables as some magical fix-all.

[modern heart]

if the benefit of consumables was better customization, it would make sense for them to be available to all tanks across the board. which would be more balanced than its current implementation because it would be equal and fair

that being said, spall needs to get deleted no matter what, it removes skill as PeterKEKW said. if a tank has low armor it's supposed to be HE susceptible, otherwise what's the point of HE being in the game

[fresh gale]

if theyre gonna introduce these balance changes they might as well make the foch the Foch B. i mean the game will already die from these changes so might as well

[ashen scarab]

They havent stepped back from leo 1 changes means they also didnt step back on 30b which means 30b is dead as well

[worthy basin]

That, I wholeheartedly agree with. I hate the “balancing” via superconsumables, and would prefer those to be removed from the game altogether

[lost crane]

It will have 69 top forward speed and 29 top reverse speed, how is it a nerf ? (do you understand how gear oil work ?)

[unkempt quest]

i do think spall liner needs a bit of a nerf. 12% reduction i think would be enough. a 400 alpha HE shell would deal 352 alpha instead of 320 currently. it's about the same buff as sandbags, but for HE only.

i can tell you about setup customization again, but that seems pointless.

[unique scaffold]

and it will have same gun depression as old t62a🤢🤢🤢