reforged-update-discussion

[distant minnow]

Reforged can get 120+ fps

[rocky cobalt]

Oh, now that a huge down grade

[hearty jacinth]

Bruh, its seniority reward, its given for free

[dark tartan]

not anymore, I;ve decided

[hearty jacinth]

Right? If its just gsor 1008, thats gonna suck

[warm knot]

Let's look towards the future together^^

[hearty jacinth]

how big is the reforged game file size on release? 16 gb?

[thorn sage]

Unpopular opinion: I don't like re-loading on tornvagn i like single shot

[severe coral]

Yep that's what I think :)

[thorn sage]

Still play it sometime

[fleet dust]

gsor the tank has a different hull

[sweet rain]

game aint ready yet, no more to say

[rocky cobalt]

Yes but that is the 1008 as here is gsor the tank with the camouflage (sorry I don’t own the tanks but try to get the hull design on here)

[ancient wagon]

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan too

[somber plover]

Yes, its sad we dont get provisions back

[ancient wagon]

I'm personally fine with them being shifted into the equipment. There'll be less complaints about negative credits after battle and some of their power is in the equipments themselves now

[arctic shale]

bro cant see difference between gsor the tank and gsor 1008🔥

[proper talon]

The keys were a great addition.

Now give me back the free XP—I don’t need these data cards that can’t be farmed in normal battles!

Get rid of these terrible sets.

I can farm free experience in the current Blitz and spend it however I want, but with these sets and data cards, I feel like you’re limiting my choices and forcing me to play more—that’s really bad!

In the current Blitz, by playing in various fun modes and participating in all sorts of activities, I can farm enough free experience in a few months to unlock a new branch, but in Reforged, with these data cards and sets, that won’t work—I’ll be limited to a specific set and a specific branch.

Right now, I play any German tank and can farm enough free XP to unlock the Salski tank branch, but in Reforged, will I be able to do that? Of course not, and that’s really bad.

[ancient wagon]

Data cards are literally free xp certificates. No difference

[distant minnow]

The gift is clearly gsor 1008

[rocky cobalt]

Keys I heard were removed

[rocky cobalt]

Yes

[distant minnow]

Yes

[proper talon]

Yes, all that's left is to remove the sets and restore the unused experience points.

[ancient wagon]

Salski branch?
Sets are just tech tree branches... You grind in a tank, get xp and progress to the next tank. No difference

[proper talon]

In Reforged, can I get a data card after finishing a battle? Or are data cards now only available in events and various containers?

[rocky cobalt]

I mean sets are okay in some ways as I like the defender set (these pictures is not up to date)

[scarlet pine]

Will there be any Ultra Test until release?
Cause there are some issues that still need to be solved: technical, economic, UI/design issues etc.

[ancient wagon]

They'll be available in one way or another. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more prominent than current free xp certificates as the normal way of free xp will be gone

[warm knot]

https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/news/common/behind-the-scenes-keys/
More key related info!

[proper talon]

There you go! The usual way to earn free experience will disappear. And since we don’t know yet how we’ll earn it going forward, that’s what worries me. So I’ll say it again.

By playing the current Blitz in various fan modes, I’ll be able to farm up free experience over a couple of months before the new branch comes out. That means when the new branch drops, I won’t have to grind for it, because the time I spent in the game earlier gets converted into free experience that I can spend however I want—you get it? but in Reforged, they take that away from me, put handcuffs on me, and force me to play on all sorts of sets I don’t like

[ancient wagon]

You're really gonna miss the 5% gained per battle? It'll be 1 battle about every 20 battles that you'll miss out on in terms of xp gain. That's very insignifficant in the grand scheme of things.

Do you not have any free xp certificates saved up?

[junior ingot]

Worst news of the year

[celest pasture]

Anyone know when the event "Forge fire" event will happen because I NEED that certificate

[proper talon]

There are a whopping 10 of them—that’s about 3.5 million free experience points. So, what do you want with them? Let them sit in my stash. I’m saying I won’t be able to earn free experience like I used to, They want to take away what I earned a long time ago, and I haven’t been leveling up the branch the usual way for ages, since it’s already coming out as bonus free experience for me, you know? The more time I spend in Blitz, the more free experience I get, and that way I don’t even need to play when a new branch comes out—I just get a kick out of playing at the top of that very new branch.

[ancient wagon]

And you still will be able to with data cards. You save them up, cash them in when a new branch comes out and you have fun

Also, AI?

[dense jetty]

ngl this made me chuckle

[rancid isle]

Im worried about my premium acc certificates

[proper talon]

And how will I get them? Is it the same way as with free experience? No! Is it after a battle in fan mode? No! From cases? Yes!!

[tight magnet]

I have maybe a stupid question, when we will see tier 11 on wotb?

[rancid isle]

Also worried that my tons of xp and crew xp are really not recouped by the measly amount of data cards given (relative to reforged's economy), plus gold has also heavily inflated

[ancient wagon]

We do not know what exact methods will be available for them. Assuming the worst isn't gonna help

[ancient wagon]

Gold inflated how?

[proper talon]

Free experience, free experience boosters, and free experience certificates—these will be your data cards, while everything else, such as elite experience, will be converted into transfer currency

[rancid isle]

Is reforged still giving tier X for gold?

[proper talon]

So why change something that was already working perfectly?

[ancient wagon]

Yeah?

[rancid isle]

At what price? I see 17 to 21k in wotb rn

[ancient wagon]

Default is 15k, always has been even in current blitz

[ancient wagon]

Things update and change over time. We've had the same thing for a very long time, a new look can help refresh the game

[magic dagger]

Does anyone know what map this is?

[proper talon]

If only it were just the design! It really hits the pocketbook—and how!

[distant minnow]

Its a new map most probably

[magic dagger]

Wow, hopefully, it's a very beautiful map indeed.

[distant minnow]

At first I thought it to be Canyon because of that bridge

[zealous heart]

will show more of it really soon

[magic dagger]

👀

[celest pasture]

WAIT WHAT?

[white crane]

over 4 years of reforged development and developers don't know how to add a drop shadow behind text so it's readable

[grand hawk]

will 2 months even be enough time to fix all these significant bugs still in reforged

[white crane]

every text in current on the hud has a drop shadow or a raised edge of some sort to help with clarity

even shell and consumable text

but this basic part of UI/UX design isn't ported over to unreal

[zealous heart]

we will try to fix as many as possible and will continue after
thats the #1 priority

[white crane]

the UI in reforged needs clarity updates, the in game font is bad enough but the kerneling and contrast makes it so much worse

[zealous heart]

Those are tweakable things. We already changed UI quite a lot since the UT1. With clear feedback we will get there

[last plover]

which is cheaper? buying unlocked tech tree now or when reforged is released? I have like tier X tech tree tanks ready to be bought

[white crane]

Yeah but this shouldn't require feedback to be implemented, it should be instinct of a UI designer to add a drop shadow or raised edge on font in a hud
otherwise the font itself becomes extremely hard to read

there's a lot of examples in reforged where things that should be extremely obvious in any mobile/PC game don't exist, even though they existed in current
it's not even the problem with sets, keys, progression, physics etc, its down to the core of the design direction that's lacking the fundamentals
stuff like this is subconscious, and nobody really points it out, people just think its jarring, and if you have enough of these subconscious factors affecting a product, players will have a dislike of the product even if you improve on the conscious factors \

I've seen how much progress reforged has been through since pre UT1, but seeing the basic clarity and UI issues of the game being unaddressed puts a really sour taste in my mouth

[magic star]

These things are instinctive if you always program new games, however if you just expand older games it‘s easy to forget just why things work well. What you point out is part of a continuous improvement process. It‘s unrealistic to expect a refined product even after several years of development, at least not at the complexity we are talking about

[white crane]

pretty much yeah, developer churn causes generational knowledge to be lost

[sly parcel]

There should not be infinite ammo in this game, it’s a strategy to bring how many types of shells for each to fit each individual player style.
It’s okay for infinite in modes but not in normal and rating

[old moss]

Are sets still in with the stupid names? If so I’m out. Shame.

[zenith drum]

yep, guess they didn't learn from the 4 ultratest's feedback....

[magic dagger]

@zealous heart Also, another question: What about the other maps that we haven't tested and the special modes? Will they be available and updated for Reforged?

[old moss]

The last test for Reforged seemed to have taken the game backwards,

[grand hawk]

are you not a fan of the ‘Present Tense’ set

[zenith drum]

nope, they're still sets, I don't see why they should be in the game instead of tech trees. They just make the progression more confusing than good old tech trees. Besides, I don't think anyone has ever wanted tech trees removed. Sets are just replacing something that works with something worse

Also, feedback clearly show people being against sets and yet, after 4 UT iterations, sets still stand when they are clearly not desired

[zealous heart]

Maps will return gradually as well as modes

[dense jetty]

damn

[zealous heart]

tech tree is also here

[indigo tulip]

Says a lot dunnit?

[dapper axle]

really that's really good

[zenith drum]

where cuz I don't see a tech tree going from tier 1 and branching out until tier 10. All I see are sets that are just arranged to look like tech trees but they're still sets

[zealous heart]

tier 1-3 and 4 are moved to separate game play so they are valuable and interesting again
yeah they are arranged like tech tree... which is a tech tree

[hearty jacinth]

Why not keep them as tier 1-3 and make then interesting and valuable?

[dense jetty]

since all vintage tanks are in whole

wouldnt that make it a bit mess

[hearty jacinth]

And its weird that the main tree starts at tier 4

[tough egret]

Bring them to tier ten 10x their hp and make them into fve defenders ✨💅 5x their pen

[zenith drum]

I agree with @hearty jacinth , I'm sure you could have the rebalance of tier 1-3 while them still being at their old place in the tech tree

[hearty jacinth]

Low tier died in blitz because of 5.5 update, they got nerfed heavily and became boring, im sure you can bring back the fun in low tier, especially the high caliber guns

[past sand]

i have nowhere to report it but you cannont purchas BZT containers on the WG Client

[upbeat carbon]

In the WG client you only see gold offers. For real money offers, you have to visit the website or play through another App Store

[fleet dust]

The community doesn't want the game to be updated in the state as it is right now. I believe that you should listen to it, since majority disagree's with said update.

[zealous heart]

nobody plays tier 1 as is after getting higher tiers

[zealous heart]

we changed it in UT1 if you remember. people didnt like it so we returned it back

[dense jetty]

one question tho:

can we at least get like 2 or 3 gamemodes at once in reforged later on?

[sly parcel]

No one plays low tiers after update 5.5 why? So hard to guess..

it’s good that you protect the newer players in mm for low tiers when against old players. But the fun and variety of fun is low tiers should not be removed thou…

[zealous heart]

yeah its possible, not in the beginning tho

[dense jetty]

also how many new maps can be expected

[zealous heart]

so we created vintage to have fun again?

[zealous heart]

in what time period? Definitely more often than previously

and they will be more interesting gameplay wise

[dense jetty]

on release and like 6 months too

[zealous heart]

but its topic for another day

[dense jetty]

also is it true that gamemodes are getting revamped ?

like some gamemodes getting more abilities

[fleet dust]

You could have just separated low tier mm from normal mm while still having same tech tree functions, instead of sets which makes the game much more confusing.

[hearty jacinth]

because they're boring, they got heavily nerfed and there's no fun in that tier, even 2 and 3

[zealous heart]

soooooo we rebalanced them and tried to make interesting so people start playing them again

[sly parcel]

Vintage itself is not a bad idea but depends on how you do it.
First for new players, there’s definitely a lot that they need to learn when they pick up playing this game.

I feel that they need to learn about the differences in tank tier means that higher tier tanks are better due to more HP, dpm and armor.

However at the same time as they progressed through the game, they should also have hope to fight a tier higher than them not losing hope completely by using the tank strength or opponent weakness.

I have 2k battles in a tier 3 T-46 before update 5.5. It was fun for me to use the high penetration and fight against tier Vs at that time…

[hearty jacinth]

but you could've also keep them in tier 1-3 at the same time

[vestal thunder]

Why did we get graphics like wot heat instead of wot for reforged

[zealous heart]

why

[fleet dust]

We would also ask why did you nerf low tiers in 5.5 -.-

[zenith drum]

because it keeps the tech trees less confusing and more logical, overall win

[hearty jacinth]

so that the tree looks complete, from tier 1 to 10, Im probably being nitpicky, but its just look not good that a tree starts at tier 4

[zealous heart]

there would be abounded tanks like it was before

[sly parcel]

Because at that time the new players suffered a lot facing the more experienced players in the same mm.
However that should not be an issue now since new players below 5k battles r being protected by the MM.
I do want the fun and variety of low tiers to be back.
I missed the T-46 and A-20 with 6 shots.

[fleet dust]

Well, you said it yourself, new mm was the solution

[vestal thunder]

Ignored😔💔

[hearty jacinth]

@zealous heart there's also the unnecessary change in tank module upgrade, why not keep the one we have in blitz?

[zenith drum]

well you could have the vintage tag along with the tier so players understand that they're in a seperate MM. Could also keep the current Vintage tab to clearly display all the vintage tanks in the separate MM ontop of hving the vintage tanks in their separate tech trees

[sly parcel]

Sorry for the pin. But I would like to help to explain why we don’t want to start from tier 4.

When new players plays a game. They have an expectation that that will start from tier 1. Because that’s logical of how all other games makes new player progress in the game.

By starting from tier 4, new players will think of: did I missed out something? Why suddenly I start at level 4?

And the benefits of starting from tier 1 is that u make them learn the difference in tier will result the difference in HP, armor, penetration, speed, dpm etcs.

New players need to come and learn how to play this game at low tiers right. I don’t want to see a new player just grab something from store and immediately appear in high tiers rush die spamming chat why we didn’t help……

[dense jetty]

but yeah i think wg tried to think like we shall call the tier 4 to tier 10 as tier 1 to 7

but thing is we ourselves though tier shouldnt be confusing so we protested to keep tier as it is but failed to account that vintage and tech tree cant go together for some reason

[mystic prism]

To be honest, I have been missing these low tiers tanks.
I didn't believe they would be removed when I read the announcement.
I have been regretting collecting them before the removal until now.

[zealous heart]

as i said we started like this. but players said it was too confusing

[zealous heart]

lets see how this system plays now? maybe its actually more convenient to upgrade modules little by little instead of huge leaps

[pure flume]

Rip wotb

[dense jetty]

also how does the tutorial work in reforged one

i think tutorial and videos should be made a lot more about game mechanics later just to make newbs more reliable

[old moss]

@pure flume

[sly parcel]

Too confusing on the tiers? That seems unbelievably true. Cuz they r unfamiliar with the numbering system of tier I II III? So they needs to see something like 1 2 3 so then they will understand?
Honestly this dont seems like a big issue…people who go to school will see question part (i) part (ii) part (iii) right…unless blitz target audience is those very young kids that dont need to go school… i cant think of a reason why is this hard..

[hearty jacinth]

but why? the current module upgrade system works perfect, it never changed in WoT pc, I don't see why the need to change it in blitz, the current module progression works perfectly in blitz already

[pure flume]

Having Roman Numerals is not confusing, but wg are insistent on dumbing down the game so much that they end up actually making it more complex without the level of refinement needed to actually make it simple yet ‘in-depth’.

It’s known as oversimplification which is just simplifying things when you don’t fully understand or consider all the impacts those things will make. Which ends up dumbing things down and making them objectively worse.

[magic star]

You misunderstand. The veteran players thought it too confusing that their tier ten vehicles are tier seven vehicles now

[zealous heart]

why do you think it works perfect

[warm knot]

Tier X vehicles stay Tier X

[hearty jacinth]

because I don't see anyone complaining about it

[sly parcel]

In above the chat, Tankisa told me that its players who said tiers are so confusing….. I too don’t get how is the tier system confusing, but starting from tier 4 is definitely going to affect new players experience and expectations of this game…

[zealous heart]

it doesnt mean the system is okay 🙂

[hearty jacinth]

how is it not okay?

[vestal thunder]

Can I ask a question about reforged

[pure flume]

I’d like to see some metrics and actually legitimate feedback from players stating ‘it’s confusing’ before I believe that PR level response. And if that is the case, (which I doubt it is for majority of players) they might need to activate their brain a little more than 1% if they want to play an interactive multilayered fps strategy game. This isn’t Top War or Candy Crush level of video game.

[hearty jacinth]

the system is great if not perfect, you buy the tank stock, you play it to earn exp, then upgrade it, what's so wrong about that?

[tired glade]

I want to know if those effects of air distortion and heat waves can be achieved on mobile phones. LESTA next door already has them.

[mystic prism]

To be honest, I like new things or new changes in the game.
But the important thing is we should always leaving a stepping back.
When a new thing get changed then it showed a big refusal it is OK to look at stepping back.

I prefer staying on the new tach system but if it get big refusal in June then the old Tect tree would be better.

[pure flume]

Lesta actually aren’t reforging blitz because they know they have a good product and are just working on enhancing and evolving it without shifting it’s cores.

[zenith drum]

there litterally has been a large refusal since the reforged update was announced since UT-1, yet it's the only large problem they have rolled back

[pure flume]

100% games do need to evolve, but not as much as corporate gaming companies generally think, it’s money over everything including raw creative passion and sensible development. If you have something good, recognise it and make it better, then you won’t always be desperate for short-term cash grabs because your core audience is satisfied. It’s a ridiculous oversight for a financial department to priorities short-term hikes over long-term stability.

[mystic prism]

But we have not played it on our real game?
Yes we tested it.
But do we played serious in the test to open a whole set for example?
No, then let's play it seriously in June then if the new method won't fit us they will bring back the old tech tree that we liked.

[pure flume]

Of course, that’s coming from someone who understands longevity always outperforms short-terms. You have a good product, a solid client base, a solid company structure and you have time to create and innovate properly.

[hearty jacinth]

in WG's case, most of the developer of the current engine are in lesta, that's why lesta have been improving the current game, because they made that game engine

in WG, they really need to change the game engine since if they train new developer for the current engine, that'll take a lot more time

[tired glade]

I just want to know if this can be implemented in the remastered mobile version. Also, the water visuals in the several tests were quite disappointing. I have no idea what it will be like after release. At least for now, this is the situation. I’m a guy who really cares about graphics quality.

[void knot]

Still a lot of bugs to fix. The test last week I get a destroyed tank turret stuck under my tank and I couldn't move!

i know this is maybe a dumb question, but is there any point in buying garage slots? ( reforged won't require garage slots, right?)

[pure flume]

If you care about the game/World of franchise you would do that. I understand needing to be cost effective, but some things are worth spending some money on.

However they could have chosen a better engine and partnered with someone like Valve who have their own (much better) engine than unreal that they just released an exclusive license to, not to mention they actually hold a good philosophy towards gaming as a whole.

[bright anvil]

Imagine if they chose source

[sly parcel]

End of the day, blitz is a mobile game.
Kinda funny how a mobile games became unfriendly to mobiles in the change of new engine lol….

[zenith drum]

Wdym by "played it on our real game" ? I don't get what you wanna say.

I don't need to have grinded a set to know that being able to unlock the whole set while only playing 1 vehicle is just dumb and agaisnt the experience. Ik that in current blitz, you can technically grind the whole tech tree without playing it by using free exp, but if you don't wanna use free exp, you have to go through the whole grind from tanks to modules with imo is part of the core experience of WoTB and any WG game (looks at WoT and WoWs, they are older than blitz, have more players and yet still have tech trees so sets aren't gonna bring the game back).
Add to that that sets have a more confusing structure than the linear tech trees we have in blitz and I think it is pretty obvious that a roll back to old tech trees would be a win for everyone

[bright anvil]

How to get rid of the majority of the players tutorial

[pure flume]

Look, there are a lot of ways to achieve good graphics in games, and you can technically cheat a bit as us as humans are subject to visual illusions/artefacts, which means we can create graphic systems that trick the eye into seeing something that’s not there, however this doesn’t work as well for the ones with keen and analytical eyes, good graphics aren’t always the highest ‘quality’ or most realistic, it’s usually a balance of embellishment and realism combined to create a very cohesive and clear visual atmosphere that win in the end.

[pure flume]

They should have, imagine waiting for a good investment to actually make your game objectively better.

[zealous heart]

yes

[hearty jacinth]

yeh, Im quite against unreal engine too, especially, this is a mobile game

[dense jetty]

also what can we expect from the last Unreal tests

[hearty jacinth]

are we still gonna do UT5?

[zealous heart]

wdym?

[pure flume]

Unreal works best on gaming pcs and some modern consoles, not mobile centric games. Plus some of the practices of the parent company that owns unreal I am strongly against.

Did wg utilise unreal for WoT Pc, I can’t remember, because their first grasp is overhaul was actually decent. (This is pre wot 2.0)

[zealous heart]

yes

[dense jetty]

when ut5??

[snow monolith]

Will they force us to update to reforged after June 17?

[zealous heart]

ah sorry I misread.... there will be more tests before release but I can share exact dates now

[pure flume]

Unfortunately.

[inland viper]

By the way, has this issue been resolved in the reforged version?
I've already used it after ut-2, so I don't know.

[hearty jacinth]

yes, blitz no more on june 17

[swift gazelle]

Thats because like 70% of the low tier tanks (including Collectors and Premiums) are so outdated and powercrept. No wonder noone plays them.

It doesn't really help that 5.5 happened and WG removed the old tier 1's and above and all the fun derp, or machine gun like guns.

The devs literally ruined low tier by making it so simple. Back then we had multiple tier 2; 3 or 4's. If they'd just take a look at the stats before 5.5 and now about the low tier playercount then they'd see the difference.

Making the grind more simple and faster also didn't help. Or the fact that for some weird reasone WG removed the consumables, prammo, HE and such things from tier 1 to 3 tanks. When we HAD them before. This perfectly shows up in Total Domination where low tiers are at a big disadvantage because of these missing elements

Oh and not to forget that we literally never get only low tier events where you can only progress with low tier tanks.

Tell us, when was the last time you released a brand new low tier (1-3) tank (Collector, Premium or even tech tree) to the game, huh? We get dozents from tier 6 or above.

The devs themself made low tiers unplayable and they blame it on us...

[snow monolith]

Oh okay

[pure flume]

There’s always a chance they can roll back a decision, this is a large overhaul, so it’s less likely, but sometimes, you have to take a big L to achieve the biggest Ws.

[mystic prism]

I meant that I am sure that Nobody has tested any ultra test to open a whole set for example.
So I think it will be obvious for developers to see the acceptance when it released in the live client not in a test.
And I agree with you about grinding a whole set by only 1 tank, that will be so bad for players because we will see good tanks like 53TP a lot but we will never see a 45TP.
They should at least adjust the set system to be like the tech tree grinding the tech tank by tank 1 by 1 not the whole set with only 1 tank.
And I see to give them a chance to put that system to the live clients and they should see players reactions and activity in this period.
If it showing something bad they really should bring the old tech tree system.
What I am trying to say is let us give them a chance at least to show us what they are cooking.

[zealous heart]

we try to bring new live to these tanks introducing vintage. I believe when we succeed and players think that the gameplay is good again we can return to adding new vintage tier tanks

[magic star]

Why would you want to force those players who can‘t afford to skip a tank to play bad tanks for everyone else‘s enjoyment?

[dense jetty]

so tanks removed in 5.5 can make a comeback?

or will make a comback

[zealous heart]

yes they are in vintage tier now

[dense jetty]

will there be rebalancing as well on vintage?

[hearty jacinth]

so that they can't just rise up to max tier but not learning anything into the game

[zenith drum]

yeah but then why just not keep the vintage tanks as they work and just putting them back in their respective tech tress ?

[mystic prism]

They should balance these bad tanks to be at least good.
We want to see more kinds and types of tanks in the battle.
Not only the good ones!

[pure flume]

A problem that was manufactured by previous cash grab developments from wg, it started with Boosters.

[zealous heart]

yes and maybe some gameplay features. I actually invited the balancer of these tanks to dicsord to discuss it during previous UT, and I can do it again if you are interested in speaking with the dev

[dense jetty]

why not actually

[pure flume]

Then despite knowing the impact, they sold tier IX and X tanks in the store, despite multiple warnings and acknowledgments that it would damage the game’s progression and skill level.

[mystic prism]

I played vintage tanks, they were good balanced, at least better than now.
We can share our thoughts with the balance team developers!

[zenith drum]

I understand your point but unfortunately, this is WG we are talking abt, if smth needs change, it's gonna take months for the change to arrive if it even arrives in the first place. I just don't see why they had to change smth that didn't need changing. Looking at the survey, I think the "let them cook" period has been over for a long time but if you think we should give them a chance, then sure but personally, my feedback won't change : after having tried the new system, the old one is just better

[zenith drum]

that would be great actually

[zealous heart]

yes they are looking into your feedback specifically on this topic so dont hesitate even after the release

[swift gazelle]

So the devs think that locking them to one specific only low tier gamemode is the solution?

Wouldn't it been way better to don't know...not abandone them in the first place?

If WG would kept keeping them up to date, balance them and take the time instead of choosing the easy way that came with 5.5 for the sake of "simplicity"?

How come no fun mode is playable in low tiers? Why can we only complete events with higher tiers? Or why is that after the MM change (so below 5000 games you go to noob MM only) we didn't get back old low tier tanks. By doing these things not only would be these tanks and tiers popular but we wouldn't have such issues right now!

Us the players still remember the time when we got ignored for YEARS... wouldn't it been simple and more appealing to take such suggestions and implement them before bigger issues emerged? You didn't see us as help before when the game needed it. Is it still the case in such situations?

If yes then WG, please understand that when the players are angry or when it seems they hate the devs its not because we are against you. Most of us grew up with the game and it hurts us to see when the higher ups do something that clearly hurts the game more than it benefits.

[quartz hill]

Where are the ranks on reforged ?

[zenith drum]

wdym ? ranks are still the same, it's just that all tier 1-3 tanks and some tier 4 have been moved to a seperate MM with a balance pass

[pure flume]

This 👆 💯

Here’s a conspiracy which I 100% believe, 5.5 was preparing to release battle pass tanks in 2020, they had to remove some tanks so they could sell them back to you later for a premium, follow the money.

I would be gobsmacked if it was actually a decision they made for ‘simplicity’ because it would suggest they don’t understand their own game at it’s core, as far back as 2017.

[quartz hill]

Im talking about the rank system not the tiers bruh

[zealous heart]

Im not sure what you are implying... that I need to go back in time and correct those issues?
We are trying to have a good solution here and now. I suggest to discuss it and play it in order to make cool again

[zealous heart]

its not true

[pure flume]

Fixing a mistake doesn’t mean you need a Time Machine if you can just reverse a bad decision by reverting/re-implementing what was removed????? something that was already there. lol your devs can’t be that incompetent…

[pure flume]

I guess I’ll be gobsmacked then.

[zenith drum]

Mb, you mean player levels right ?

[hearty jacinth]

Are we gonna receive the gold we will get from player levels when we transfer? Cuz from UT, I don't think we receive those gold that covered by the levels we have

[quartz hill]

Its called ranks

[swift gazelle]

What? Go back in time?

I think there is a huge misunderstanding between us and WG. You don't need to "go back in time". What I'm saying is these issues could been easily prevented if the devs back then listened to the players and the community. They should have never done 5.5 in the first place or if yes then it should have been reverted when other issues were fixed (like the noob MM).

However, WG went with it anyway, left them to be powercrept. What we are discussing now is the aftermath of thoes changes.

[zenith drum]

Yeah this whole rank, level thing is very confusing. They should be in the player profile iirc

[pure flume]

Ranks / player levels don’t need to exist. They don’t add anything to the game, they’re clutter. Now we have marks of excellence (which is what I thought ranks were supposed to be initially until I realised they were useless and still are).

[swift gazelle]

Exactly! They were in the game previously, they should have been reimplemented instead of leaving them.

By doing so we get the effects it left years later.

If what I wrote was so confusing then there are some serious misunderstanding between us and the devs. Which explains a lot of things in the past decade of developement.

[zenith drum]

I fully agree, they do complicate a lot the experience but at the end of the day, it's just more rewards and to me, it doesn't anything so I don't have a problem with it

[deft dune]

player levels don’t need to exist but nobody will be happy when wg removes it

it’s pointless

[zenith drum]

I think most people wouldn't care, they don't add or remove anything to the game

[quartz hill]

bruh i spent alot of credits for the ranks i hope they will be in the game in reforged

[zenith drum]

Wait you mean tank ranks then ??

[deft dune]

still some people spend credits to get the “status” or camo

[pure flume]

If we are looking at improving the game experience, those rewards received by ranks could be implemented in the marks of excellence for each tank instead of being an extra clutter. Just to make marks even more valuable.

Ranks provide nothing compared to marks

[deft dune]

removing something that people spent their time in for no compensation is not a good decision

[swift gazelle]

I mean if player would be compensated and the camos they had would be added as normal ones then everything would be fine.

[quartz hill]

Yes ?

[zenith drum]

Mb guys, I had completly the wrong ranks in mind, yeah removing tank ranks wouldn't be nice I agree (proof that this whole thing is just a confusing mess)

[pure flume]

.3 marks 2 marks 1 mark, you get a special marks of excellence camo for your tank + bonuses already provided by awards., there we go, improved the lucrative nature of the marks system and removed an unnecessary clutter element of the game by merging it’s elements into a much better game system.

No need for ranks.

Player levels are also just completely useless and unnecessary, shouldn’t exist, they provide nothing except support for an unnecessary sets system with ‘keys’.

[winter gorge]

ew

[zenith drum]

Yeah that's what I was saying

[deft dune]

might be a flaming take but I think sets are pretty good now without keys

[winter gorge]

a normal tech tree would be more than enough

[pure flume]

Because they’re closer to just being the tech tree we have in-game now 💀

[zenith drum]

They are not objectively bad, they are just worse than tech trees

[deft dune]

with added features too, like premium grinding and test tank

[winter gorge]

whats the point of changing things like tech tree when no one was talking bad about it

[pure flume]

There’s so much they could do to refine and improve the tech-tree system, it’s slowly been neglected over the years, it used to actually be more clear than it it now.

[deft dune]

i would agree with you if keys still exist and it’s still in the netflix-esque layout

[zenith drum]

That's the entire argumznt about sets

[pure flume]

Test tanks are a stretch but I can see premium grinding.

[swift gazelle]

Mate...Premium grind was in the game since Premiums exist lol

You can still grind tech trees with Premiums too in current version, its not set specific.

[winter gorge]

add bonds from wot pc or something like that

[pure flume]

The test-drive feature would be great in the normal tech tree, an actually good development.

[winter gorge]

test drive is awful

[pure flume]

HECK NO

[deft dune]

you can contribute combat xp to your set along with free xp for other sets, and credits

[winter gorge]

so grinding premiums and test tanks are a better idea?

[pure flume]

They’re the equivalent to ptw/premium consumables, just bad for the game overall, initially were met with resistance and accepted but never really liked.

[deft dune]

still i think unreal is not a good engine, it lags too much for me when i can run dava blitz in medium graphics

[pure flume]

Premiums used to all be displayed in the tech tree, that is a quality of life thing that has been neglected. Having test-drive implemented is a good idea. Not test tanks, because that’s a different stage of game development.

[hearty jacinth]

I suggest test it more

[winter gorge]

let me just make a new acc and go test drive every t10 or rig battles for wr and etc and ruin others fun

[zenith drum]

Have you used the test drive feature in reforged ? You got a special token preventing you from test driving infinitly. I doubt that new players would be given a lot of tokens

[deft dune]

knowing wg each test drive would be like 2000 gold each lol

[pure flume]

This issue lies in a lot of other issues that need fixing, no.1, test drives should not affect any battle statistics, no2. Rigging/trolling is already a banable offence in-game.

[winter gorge]

test drive tanks shouldnt be able to play normals and ranked

[deft dune]

then what’s the point

[pure flume]

Sure, have a bot queue for test drives, that works. You’re only supposed to get a feel for the tank.

[winter gorge]

make a mode for example with bots

[swift gazelle]

Mate, currently Free XP exists for that. You can grind credits better with Premiums too.

[modern solar]

Here comes the downfall

[zenith drum]

ngl, I would have loved UT-1 sets i it had been a separate game but considering current blitz tech trees, sets in whatever iteration of UT are just inferior in every aspect to current blitz's tech trees

[swift gazelle]

It should be like in War Thunder.

[pure flume]

That’s a crash course in: how to make people not use a useful feature 101.

[winter gorge]

the only thing people wanted were physics graphics and other similar things not to make the game feel soulless and sort of a different feeling game

[deft dune]

think whatever the premiums grind best right now, and add the new feature of contributing to your set progression.

a lowe can now research your E100 faster along with making lots of credits and free xp

[modern solar]

They straight up turned it into an another mobile tank game

[winter gorge]

lots of old players stay and play because they like the game just how it is, myself ive been playing for 11 years

reforged feels like a poopy add youd see on youtube

[pure flume]

100%, PBR graphics are not the way to go and the physics engine is definitely something that is good, (if it’s implemented well) the rest is not needed, none of the issues the current blitz faces aren’t fixable in the current client, they may have engine limitations, however, physics refinements won’t be impossible in DAVA, but unreal engine is not a good choice.

[zenith drum]

tbh, I understand that because of a new engine, they wanted to shake things a bit and change things that they couldn't before but it just showed that WG had a completely different (and worse) vision of blitz than the community. It could have been avoided if they had just remade the current blitz in Unreal Engine and then just built upon that

[winter gorge]

i understand that they want to implement new things and etc but if the community hates so much that the dislikes are winning whats the point of still introducing the things community hates

[pure flume]

Just because you can, does not mean you should.

[inner spruce]

because its Their Game Not ours - we rent it

[modern solar]

Corporate slop is the way to go nowadays

[deft dune]

keep in mind that people active here and on blitz socials are much smaller than the actual playerbase

[winter gorge]

i mean yes go implement new things on ultra test and wait for feedback, to see if people like it or no, no one for example blames the graphics,physics only the unneccesary changes

[deft dune]

somebody may only found out about reforged today due to the release date

[inner spruce]

but , looks fine runs fine on this pc so meh onwards and up i guess

[zenith drum]

True but it's just sad cuz all the backlash could have been avoided if they had just went about in a different way

[winter gorge]

they shouldve made atleast 1-2 more ultratests

[pure flume]

Yep

[inner spruce]

what they doing hiding under a rock in a dark cave ? how can no one have heard of reforged until this announcement ? lol

[winter gorge]

now its like "hey we are going to change the game and it will seem like a different game so deal with"

[pure flume]

I heard up in this chat that they might be issuing a few more tests before release. So get on em if they appear.

[blissful bone]

there is no time for test if they plan to release in June

[modern solar]

The only people who are excited about reforged gotta be the shareholders and newbies

[pure flume]

They’ve got nearly 2 months before release.

[inner spruce]

lel shareholders be worried its their shares gunna suffer

[zenith drum]

definitly, from my pov, the game is ready on a technical standpoint but the art direction and the rest around it is just not ready and imo need quite some more time in the oven

[winter gorge]

do i need to say something else?

[pure flume]

Technical tests don’t last long. And maybe a shorter ut5 will happen, it’s entirely possible, but they’re cutting it short with that release date.

[modern solar]

The graphics in reforged are way too bright and childish. Firing effects feel static and soulless

[blissful bone]

and how would said test would have time to fix anything? Stability test already carried out

[zenith drum]

fr, and yet, they still greenlit the June 17th deadline saying "oh reforged is gonna have the time it needs to be what the players excpect"

[winter gorge]

this is the biggest update blitz has seen and it has 350 downvotes XDD

[pure flume]

At least they put some pc explosion sound effects, that are actually decent. Still some of the other SFX are bad. Like they are now.

[inner spruce]

ah well its coming so u got 2 choices now - stay or go with it lol

[swift gazelle]

Reforge (or more specifically ReSlop) is the perfect excuse to add even more monetisation and change core elements of the game.

What promissed to be just a graphical and physics update turned out to be anything but that. I saw comparison videos and honestly? It doesn't look that different, in places even a bit more cartoony.

On physics vise if its like that in fun modes especially Gravity then its degrading the fun part.

[modern solar]

WG be like: accept 3% who agree, and ignore 97% who don't agree

[pure flume]

I’m just going of what was said by wg, we will have to see.

[zenith drum]

it's not even that it has 350 downvotes, it straight up had more downvotes that upvotes lmao

[winter gorge]

thats the most important thing

[zenith drum]

fr, they be like "look there's some people agreeing so it means that's what the playerbase wants"

[inner spruce]

again - 2 choices stay or go 🤷🏼‍♂️ rofl

[swift gazelle]

Good, you know how it goes. If complaining won't solve the issue the lack of profits will

[modern solar]

The whales are actively contributing to the downfall of this game

[winter gorge]

it should be logical that the profits will be less since people are dissapointed and pretty loud about it

[modern solar]

Wg literally made like 400k euros from BZT auction as well

[zenith drum]

I sure hope profit will be down cuz else, this is gonna be even worse

[tranquil basin]

Do you think that they'll put the blue and red in like the first ultra test

[pure flume]

Not to mention the global server merge will be horrendous lol, look what happened with eu and ru, plus, no chat for us to communicate in anymore, in-game. How utterly tragic for something that’s supposed to be a team game.

[swift gazelle]

True, and its not us the players who will be without a new game as we still have WT Mobile, Lesta and Tank Company.

[winter gorge]

whats the point if putting the blue vs red was hated that much that it got changed to green vs red

[tranquil basin]

Bc the blue and green looked pretty damn good

[pure flume]

Very WOWSB Esq development this is, and that game is so dead I’m surprised the servers are still running.

[winter gorge]

ew no

[zenith drum]

hell nah, if you really want blue, ask them to have cuztomizable team colors

[swift gazelle]

Tell me about that. Instead of making a proper chat filter system WG choose the easy way and straight up removed it. I wonder how will the current APAC or NA players feel when they can no longer chat IN A TEAM GAME

[winter gorge]

could be customizable tbh for everyones liking, reticle color too and things like that

[zenith drum]

Imo, that would be that hard to implement and would be a nice qol change

[swift gazelle]

Turn on colorblind mode. Thats basically brings it back to the current version

[winter gorge]

armor lighting and etc becomes blue

[swift gazelle]

War Thunder has a very customisable interface so not impossible.

[dapper axle]

the colour in the reforged looks too cartoonic, it's tone is too bright and shiny. Seems cheap

[zenith drum]

I can't stress enough how many games I've lost and felt super frustrated when you can't coach your team of newbies that can't react when they're being shot at

[winter gorge]

it looks a bit overdone, sometimes simplicity isnt the worst decision

[pure flume]

If wg want to make inroads to solving toxicity, make a less toxic and irritating game environment which naturally gears the player-base towards being irritated, quality of life is a big one.

You’ll never fully eliminate toxicity in a competitive game, but it’s so rampant here it’s ridiculous and if you pressure the players by giving them a bad game experience, Ofc they will be more short fused when playing.

[swift gazelle]

Yeah, Tournaments and Training Rooms will be even less played

[winter gorge]

its not the teams fault most of the time tbh

[mystic prism]

Hello.
This is my friends device, will it handle the update? Or he should say bye bye to the game?

[zenith drum]

my team's sheridan camping with td's on castilla disagrees

[winter gorge]

most of the time its 'everyones fault but not mine"

[zenith drum]

forgot to add that I'm fighting 3 meds alone at the curch

[pure flume]

The game has not got a clear and prosperous vision, that is shown by its development. It needs someone who knows what they’re doing and has their head on straight to be in-charge of an actually positive trajectory for it to improve.

[swift gazelle]

Nah, that would actually require effort and time which we know won't happen with WG. They always choose the easy/cheaper way.

Like 5.5, insted of rebalancing low tier boom remove low tier!

Make the chat filter? Nope, remove it!

Improve the engine that was specifically built for Blitz and hire back old devs? Nu uh, lets make ReSlop which clearly won't be a success.

[winter gorge]

they should make a channel where they post people ideas/wanted changes of reforged and that people could vote on it

[pure flume]

It’s all corporate no human now.

[dapper axle]

the highest vote would be no reforge

[pure flume]

Bet

[mystic prism]

I'm waiting an answer...
Should I ping a mod or dev for help?

[winter gorge]

i mean theres no way of escaping it so atleast make it more liked by the players

[swift gazelle]

And thats exactly why WG won't do it

[winter gorge]

well i mean they could atleast write down the biggest things people dislike about reforge for example sets

also is it 100% that hey will give a whole free set to everyone?

[pure flume]

They literally have to pull a miracle with this reforged update. It needs to be nothing like we’ve been testing in so many ways for it to be remotely feasible as an improvement.

[dapper axle]

yeah, but making a game same to the original one isn't the thing WG wants to do and that's what the majority of players expect

[winter gorge]

it doesnt have to be the same, but it shouldnt differ so much from something that we are used to and became in love with

atleast do it bit by bit and honestly caring about the feedback, reverse the change or implement the way people would like it

[zenith drum]

unfortunately, recent years have shown the vision has went from a semi realistic tank game to a kids show with whacky vehicles that loosely resemble the definition of a tank. Just look at the advertisment for the game on platforms like instagram and stuff. Imo, UT-1 was the ultimate show of the direction the game has been going. It showed what the devs truly though their game was and the negativity wave was just a snap back to reality for the devs which haven't learned all the lessons yet

[pure flume]

Uh? Did you experience the original game?

[winter gorge]

a change is good and new things too, but some things where people hate it shouldnt be implemented into the game

[zenith drum]

yep seems like it

[winter gorge]

gg

[dapper axle]

well the original game features, physics, system, style and tech tree, I believe this is the core part of games, and I do not want to see them changed.

[swift gazelle]

Not to forget that originally they wanted to release a Reslop like we saw in the first trailer. The only reasone we didn't get it a year or two ago was because the player outlash.

Its scary how the devs saw THAT as the "best" thing.

[winter gorge]

people are being loud again about this nonsense

[pure flume]

Core elements should only be enhanced, absolutely agree, however I will say if you weren’t here pre-2018 then you missed the time where the original game was still rather present. They changed alot in 2018 and in 2016 things started to turn.

[dapper axle]

better graphic and gamescreene is good, but not at the cost of sacraficing, the whole art style.

[winter gorge]

the core is what makes the game feel like blitz

[dapper axle]

well i joined the game in 2021, so i'm rather a new player

[pure flume]

[swift gazelle]

Its funny because the entire reasone why ReSlop is actually a thing is because of the conflict (you know which) that began in 2022.

WG wants to get rid of the old engine as the current devs literally don't know how to work with it. Remember how it took them a lot of time to fix minor bugs in the last few years.

Most of the devs who made the game good went to form Lesta. They use the exact same engine we have now and look what they managed to do.

Unreal is the perfect example to leave the past behind and make another basic tank shooter which appeal to the Fortnite kids

[pure flume]

Here’s some snippets

This was 2016/17, I have older photos that I don’t have access to right now.

[zenith drum]

nostalgia wave lmao

[dapper axle]

yes, the war has made the loss of many develpers familiar to the original engine, and since the original one is not widely used, most new devs must start from scratch. WG cannot afford it.

[pure flume]

I have a saying I go by, “there’s no need for nostalgia if things are as good or better than they were.”

[winter gorge]

its cool to remember but for example a change that happened after these ss were taking is good too and that stage isnt hated because its implemented nicely into the game

[burnt mist]

The " merge " that you describe is only for accounts. Our regional WOTB accounts will become global accounts, able to play on any region.
But playing will still be regional on the various local servers. It is not like there will only be 1 battle server somewhere on earth.

[pure flume]

They’re a billion dollar company, they’d have to be simultaneously the most greedy and lucrative financial wizards and also really terrible at managing money. That doesn’t add up.

Now if they are that, that’s an achievement I don’t think anyone in their right mind would look favourably upon.

[zenith drum]

I agree that things are better than they were (especially since I love the current UI) but it still hits lol,

[pure flume]

2017 had some rough patches like spare parts and equipment timers and boosters., yes the downhill development had started, however it was not in the majority. The core was still strong and took a few years to undo.

[dapper axle]

what a paradox lol

[swift gazelle]

❤️❤️

[pure flume]

This still doesn’t quite make sense to me as we already have merged the accounts under 1 set of credentials. Could you explain it more simply as I’m not following.

[swift gazelle]

Most probably outern pressure forced them too to change things after 2022. Especially if the Lesta part of devs supported the Russian side.

[dapper axle]

the loss of devs is the most deadly as is current engine is a rarely uesd one.

The Sword of Damocles is hanging and it finally fell.

[swift gazelle]

Very true. Like you said its not that popular of an engine choice too.

Its truly a shame because it gave Blitz its unique style

[burnt mist]

( Sorry, I'm running on 4h of sleep )
So, yes, our blitz accounts have been made ready for reforged, so that we could run ultra tests.
WG calls this " One Realm "
Basically we now have one global wg id.
The battle servers still remain in NA, EU and APAC ... so the regions are not going away. By default Reforged will try to pick the closest server region.
But if you chose, for whatever reason to change to another region ( play with friends, ... ) then you can switch servers.
So, the one realm is that our ID works everywhere; and the servers are no long region locked ( where currently EU server only accepts EU accounts ) .... and so the local servers will remain; ping will not be worse ...... it is not like we only play on one single battle server.

[pure flume]

That’s highly possible, which is why something like the Source 2 engine from valve would have been a far better option than UE5. Partner with Valve and get their support on the game. We might get an insane cook going on with wotb. But no…

[pure flume]

Ok, that’s good, I’m glad the playing servers are not merging, thanks for clearing that up, I’m going to head off to get 4hr sleep now. Got to wake up early for a dawn service lmao.

[swift gazelle]

Knowing how Valve is a good company with people who actually care for the players and knows how strong of an impact they make it's very unlimkely that WG would ever agree on that.

Because then they'd actually have to do what players want in game lol

[pure flume]

They’d actually make a really good game

[inner spruce]

i'm EU player and played on NA reforged servers - ping was fine i didnt notice any lag and it was playable 🤷🏼‍♂️

[errant sable]

Will wot blitz CN have their own separate reforged ?

[pure flume]

What a terrible financial decision that would be ?????? XDDDDD

[swift gazelle]

😂😂😂 tell me about that!

No more scams, overpriced crates and gambling in a game with children. Actually good team balance, global chat and even more community events? No way that'd actually benefit us😆

[pure flume]

Cause valve are making no money at all right,

[burnt mist]

I am not familiar at all with what is happening with WOTB in CN; but I imagine that as WOTB becomes WOTB Reforged; it will be the same in CN.

Effectively WOTB will not be developed further when Reforged is released ...

So I don't see CN continuning on their own.

[pure flume]

Wow, definitely not a financially stable and prosperous investment…

[swift gazelle]

I'm sure in a pararel universe such things happened and people actually having the time of their lives

[pure flume]

The potential for this game to be kicka** is so good that it just pains me to see how lame it’s become. And in this case is going to get.

[pure flume]

🥂 let’s hope a miracle occurs.

[errant sable]

0.1%. Miracle

[swift gazelle]

Well, when GTA 6 drops I aint playing other games or moving from my room for a whole week. Maybe then lol

[pure flume]

Lmao, alright lads, I’m off now.

[swift gazelle]

Now in crates with 50 charms. Starting from 10 000 Gold or 100$

[pure flume]

If you want u can join the little #StopBlitzReforged moment I’m trying to get going, I’ll stick by it till the bitter end lol.

[swift gazelle]

See ya mate

[thorn jungle]

stopblitzreforged 😂

[inner spruce]

gambling,crates offers etc still there in reforged

[solar vapor]

Can I ask you something?

What objections do you have to reforged that are so great that the project should be scrapped entirely as opposed to improved?

[pure flume]

That’s a question that I’d have to stay up for a few more hours to explain. Got documents on it and all.

[solar vapor]

Please take your time, do you mind if I dm you, so that you could just do it later, as you mentioned it was late for you.

[pure flume]

I’ve given a bit of feedback over UT about it to devs too.

I don’t usually try to create movements, I’m quite the opposite, but this is one rare exception.

[inner spruce]

personally bring on reforged - cant live in the past forever-- life moves on - I'm old enough to have seen it before lol

[modern solar]

Kisly will be then wondering why blitz is failing so hard

[pure flume]

I’m happy to move forward, if we’re actually moving forward, not using progress and change as a mask for regression.

Anyway I must go, see ya lads.

[solar vapor]

My biggest concerns with reforged was that driving, aiming, and firing were all seriously interrupted and unnatural.

[inner spruce]

new engine so should be able to do a lot more and dava devs left to lesta so struggling for them ,why use an old tech when a newer one will do same and more and have devs able and available to work on it , yeah things will still need tweaking so i'd expect a good few micro patches til it is right tho haha

[solar vapor]

Hopefully reforged development is not done, and they continue to improve it before release.

[modern solar]

DAVA engine is so supreme, my crusty old lenovo can run it easily

[solar vapor]

This is only an upgrade in the sense that you go from an old sports car to a new suv.

[inner spruce]

exactly an old engine for an old device runs like it should haha

[modern solar]

Unreal Engine 5 is more like Unreal Bugs 5

[inner spruce]

for now but its New so u know will have bugs but they'll get fixed quicker as they will have devs to work on it the dava ones they dont

[modern solar]

UE5 is literally considered as one of the worst engines lol

[thorn jungle]

by who? you?

[inner spruce]

ah well i'll run it flat out on this and smile broadly as it runs fine

[modern solar]

Woah there buddy, of course not

[dapper axle]

CN might delay reforge but I suppose they will ultimately change (I am from CN)

[indigo tulip]

Ratio'd.
XD

[dapper axle]

there is a agent in china running the game, and is most criticized for takeing away things that WG gives us for free

[indigo tulip]

Well said.

[junior ingot]

We need to keep at it with the thumbs down.

[winter gorge]

58% down votes
42% up votes

[vestal thunder]

Not insane as tier changes

[errant sable]

Im currently in cn also im visiting here

[dapper axle]

wow what a coincidence

[distant minnow]

@warm knot will the tier 8 100% discount on research certificate be transferred into reforged?

[deep marten]

Please fix the size of the drive button on iOS devices before the launch

[oblique steeple]

It is a different game, I played the demo last year, laggy, buggy, with Fortnite style gaming. Thanks but no thanks. I expect a fork.

[azure marlin]

its server open i cant play says old version of game and i cant update

[limpid snow]

Add back the provisions on reforged because right now tanks are now worse in reforged because of taking them out made that they lost something else

[distant flax]

from @lyric niche because Auto Mod keeps blocking his message for some reason

[willow yew]

Hey guys, I created an account on wargaming.net to link my game account and I can't. Can anyone help me?

[stable anchor]

I don't think so.

[torn folio]

Very informative post, with which I completely agree!

Preeview-weekend = UT5 But as before, for the really important community feedback, I expect hardly any effect.

[spark thunder]

Did Ultra test version transfer the Tanks to the Reforged Update at 17th june?

[vagrant zealot]

Hey, is there a way to join a testing account (like those guys who have the new tanks before they are released and send documents as to how to balance it?)

[grand hawk]

@vagrant zealot it’s not really relevant to this channel but I’ll explain it in your DMs

[topaz berry]

What will happen to the Elite XP after Reforged update? Since free XP is being converted to Data cards(or whatever it's called) will our current elite XP be usable to buy more of these data cards for gold or will it completely disappear forever? Because i have 7 million elite xp and wouldn't want that to go to waste

[solar vapor]

Where can we find a list of reforged changes?

[neon socket]

i don't think one was published yet
unless it was talked about on stream which i wasn't present on

[hearty jacinth]

Idk but elite exp will probably be contributed to the set levels

[cosmic lotus]

This Support website article describes how to do that from several platforms, but there are separate articles in that section for Nintendo and Android devices. If these don't help, please contact support.

https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15393/

[mental ether]

@willow yew, you can reach out to the support using the following link: https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/help/

[manic beacon]

I don't understand how staff is wanting us to be excited about this update and say things like it will be the same, but on the other hand remove the ability to sell tanks. I mean the crowd might be 50 50 on a lot of things like the UI, But one thing that is really important to especially newer players is the ability to sell tanks and move onto something they will grind is a huge QOL thing.
It seems like the director has their heels dug in about this simple thing, especially about premium tanks, that oh no people are actually selling the tanks that are garbage but they paid full price for, lets make the buy back price in the case we buff it to a useable state and they want to buy it back they have to pay full price for it again. HAHAHAHAHAH
And in the case of the ones raised a tier they will have to pay even more than it cost them in the first place. Like it or not. It suits you or not.
Going from that to oh no you can't even sell it now.
How do you think the playerbase is feeling about that little change?
I do believe there needs to be thought put into this before implementing.

[hearty jacinth]

Nah, removing the ability to sell tanks is actually a nice change compare to doubling the restore price, I wish that they did this instead of doing the doubling price though

[upbeat carbon]

Based on the latest ultratest Elite XP is being converted into another currency that can be redeemed in a resource event. In the ultratest there were rewards available like data cards, silver, legendary camos, and so on

[eternal pulsar]

what will happen to premium or collector tanks ive sold? I heard something about a ticket system whre you can buy them all back? just want to confirm

[rocky cobalt]

Yes there’s are tickets to allow you to buy the tanks back as in previously test the tickets were in the storage

[eternal pulsar]

how much will the prices be to buy the tanks back with its corresponding ticket?

[rocky cobalt]

The same as the normal resort cost

So tier ten sold for 7.5k the ticket cost 15k gold

[foggy nebula]

Who’s quitting on June 17 🫡

[sacred plaza]

Completely agree. I like the ability to sell lower tier tanks to be able to afford the next tank in a tech tree.

Also, what will happen for those people on lower end devices on June 17? Will we just have to delete the game because WG can't optimize the game?

[stuck grove]

Alr General_Monkay

Count me out

[faint elk]

Yes... although your device would need to be from like 2016 for that

Any 2020+ device is fine to update

[hearty jacinth]

Can WG make this camo be available by credits?

[sly parcel]

Oh yeah I remember there’s something about the players level. As you progress through the levels you will get gold as a reward. What about old players? Will we get the gold from previous level?

[cyan spire]

https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/news/updates/devices-reforged-update/

[dense jetty]

will this rank be seen in reforged in future or not

[dense jetty]

so far we didnt get the gold

[rocky cobalt]

Yes they will be in reforge

[dense jetty]

i hope so cuz i have spent credits on my fav tanks

also now that i think about it

gamemodes like infected front might also need a massive revamp cuz it was only limited by ammocount but since it will get infinite how will that play out

[rocky cobalt]

I think the game mode will strive more with unlimited ammo count as reloads are so quick to the point that tanks with low ammo count run out so quick which ruins the final stands players want to have.

[warm knot]

Yes, but not on release

[deft dune]

so people can stop falling for the simple trick of selling good tanks for dumb crates

god knows how many cases of that had happened here

learn to appreciate your tanks

[dapper axle]

well it is their choice to do this, and i think taking this away is unfair. Also selling tanks on the tech tree is also banned by this, which means that you cannot save coins by selling the low tier tank and using the money to buy higher ones.

[ancient wagon]

Selling tanks is just a terrible idea though. You lose so much value and miss out on bonuses

[dapper axle]

Well I agree but giving people a choice is better then taking it away from them. The original game already has "punishment" for selling tanks(2 times the gold for buying back)

[dense jetty]

one question tho

why increasing the price by 2 times a bad thing in restoration

this is the point i never got

[ancient wagon]

Because the system got abused

[dapper axle]

some people are tired of playing the same tank and want to try a new one, selling tanks provides them with a chance to save money. But if there is not such a "punishment" then it means that they can use one tank to exchange them for all the tanks that aare the same price in gold which is not that fair for those who have paid.

[agile sand]

hello guys, is it possible to play reforged right now or no?

[warm knot]

Not right now, no. End of May will be next test

[agile sand]

Alright thanks ^^

[strong vale]

How to join the latest ios Ultra Test

[vestal thunder]

You can't

[burnt mist]

Look for the next test later next month.

[inner spruce]

is it going to be an open test for everyone this time ?

[manic beacon]

Could you describe this "abuse"? Are you referring to selling several tanks at buyback value so they could afford 1 whole one? With the intent to buy back the other one at a later date?
I have heard this before the abuse thing but abuse means misuse. It was an option, there fore it was used.
The way PC handles this is a 10% upcharge in buyback to discourage its use, this I don't see an issue with, that seems reasonable but 50% simply because you don't want players to do that is excessive IMO.
Like that is a raw deal from the get go, but that feature will be removed entirely.
Lets not forget this is essentially a war on some freedom that the player base not only liked useing but did use. Into other tanks to play in this game. It sounds like a clear win for the company, because they stay and they enjoyed that freedom.
Then to tell them they are abusing it and to change it completely in a way that seems to benefit the company and punish the player.
Again though this is a very negative way to handle this and potentially very upsetting to the very people that are the core playerbase that has stuck by this company and played the products they provided.
Again under the pretense of a vehicle they paid for usually with time or cash, that they could not test drive, and didn't think enough of it that they were willing to get rid of indefinitely.
Even staff, and ccs, they often lean into this feature like you might have to grind crazy amounts of hours for this vehicle, but hey, if you don't like it, at least you can sell it.

[burnt mist]

In a nutshell:
People would buy 1 with $. Sell it. Buy a second. Sell it. Buy a third. And so on. As needed, they would restore an old sold tank. Sell it again. Buy back another.
So cash was spent on 1 vehicle, and people would do a serial sell/restore to rotate between 6 12 24 tanks on a weekly or daily basis.

Some people figured out they could turn selling & restoring into basically a rent-a-tank scheme.

[gentle totem]

in reforged... will blitz tanks that have been researched but not bought have the same status or will I have to buy the tanks prior to june 17th? Thx!

[burnt mist]

They will keep their status.

You will be able to verify this in Unreal Test 5, later next month.

[gentle totem]

Thx!

[manic beacon]

You mean people were buying things in the store repededly and that was a problem? Was it hard on the system or? Why not 10%?
So they treated it like assets and would liquidize it to buy another?
So the higher ups were upset because they weren't buying a new tank every week? I mean this literally affects no one other than who?
That really only being one aspect though they are ending but also silver tanks and tech tree.

[cyan spire]

Oh so there will be another one, good to know

[burnt mist]

Yes, I disagree with the notion that tech trees cannot be sold either. Grinding and equipping tanks takes resources, let people sell tanks to move up the ladder.
And, I think people should be able to sell a premium or collector they may have purchased, won, … that they do not like in play style, whether like a td, or slow heavy; and buy something else. As in the original premise when it was conceived.

[dapper axle]

totally agree with you, we should have the right to sell tanks whether for moving into higher tiers or for gold

[verbal hemlock]

will the upgrading system be where you just spam click one button to upgrade your tank with credits, or would it be a logical one where you pick what you want in any order, like the one in current blitz?

[terse silo]

the researching system has been remade in linear way where each module has multiple stages but you can choose on your own what to grind first

[dense jetty]

u still need to upgrade levels to buy the tanks btw

but lower tiers can be used to grind higher tiers without need of getting every single tanks

[old moss]

A good solution does not involve Set which are disliked by a significant number of current players and yet you bulldoze blindly on.

[burnt mist]

Tech tree view is back with an option to hide the set icons. Looks just like in Blitz.

Older players may prefer tech tree view ... newer players may prefer set view.

There's three ways to view things ...

[old moss]

If there is no difference why are Sets there. Sets do not do the same thing as a tech tree in terms of tank purchasing in my understanding.

[burnt mist]

Sets allow players to skip tanks in the line, if they should choose to skip a difficult tank in the line. Let's say a tier 7 tank is particularly poor to play ... players can just keep playing the tier 6.

[silk olive]

Nah sets do get +1 from me, due to you being able to directly buy some of the tanks that you have always wanted.

[old moss]

You might had more support if the Sets didn’t have such stupid names.

[burnt mist]

And WG can integrate more features, like extra tanks and rewards at the end of a set.

[silk olive]

I'm keeping 3,5k gold for that T-150.

[burnt mist]

Yeah, naming and icons ... they'll make more sense for new players.

[old moss]

Really not.

You’re trying to justify your changes.

[burnt mist]

Since KEYS are going away and everythign will be unlocked; I'm not worried about sets any more.

I am only a player + volunteer moderator 🙂

But I have been involved in WOTB feedback and Reforged feedback for a long time.

[silk olive]

Acrisis will there be a 11.19 update before the Reforged.

I got a few important questions.

[old moss]

If you can skip tanks, why not just allow it to happen. Sets are not needed/

[burnt mist]

Most of the " bad choices " as seen by the player base have been reverted; I'm mostly curious now about economy and transfer event.

[verbal hemlock]

If every purpose of sets is stripped away why still have it. What exactly was wrong with Tech Trees

[old moss]

Saying Sets makes things easier for new players is just ridiculous

[burnt mist]

Don't know. I think it is a 50:50 maybe between yes and no, whether wotb needs it for some reason; or the current client is ready for all the various events and things leading up to Reforged.

[old moss]

@verbal hemlock agreed

[burnt mist]

🤷‍♂️

As a new player, you will get access to a few small sets.
Less intimidating than having however many nations to choose from?

[verbal hemlock]

I have never thought Tech Trees were confusing, never thought it needed to be completely remade, and always thought it looked cool looking at how the tanks branched off looking slightly different form the previous versions

[old moss]

Then limit choice of initial tanks until they are comfortable. Or give them some initial tanks to start rather than grind.

[verbal hemlock]

Look at it now, even the way the tanks are positioned in the stat card looks worse, I know it’s meaningless but still it looks worse

[burnt mist]

WG has their reasons, between a simpler start for newbies, more options for people to grind non lineair if they want, add prizes and extras that are not available in tech tree, ....

Sets is literally the thing I am worried about the least at this point.

And I"m not saying that you guys feedbakc and thoughts are not valid.

[verbal hemlock]

It is probably the most I am worried about because it and the level system is wha restricts players from choosing any tank they want. Nobody asked for sets, nobody had problem with Tech Trees so full revamp even with feedback is a worry

[burnt mist]

At this point ... I'm more worried about economy, missing features, etc.

[old moss]

Maybe but WG has created a focus point for irritation with literally zero gain.

[burnt mist]

First tab looking for tanks is literally tech trees ... last two tests I did not even see a set.

Sure it can be irritating, but I also know I can buy some extras in sets that I otherwise do not have access to. So, my garage may expand 🙂

[verbal hemlock]

What exactly was the thought process of making xp in to data cards, if they serve the same purpose, like “data cards” was it sound more child friendly and ‘techy’? + I’d rather look am millions of XP as Stars then looking at only a few thousand as ‘data cards’. Like really, Idk it if sounds petty but it’s such a pointless change that it makes me mad

[silk olive]

Alright, I see.

Well I was curious about the up-tiers. Like the Keiler for example. Will it be tier IX in the Reforged %100?

[burnt mist]

Data cards ... I have no clue ... and I most strongly dislike them. Most strongly.

If a tank became tier 9 in Blitz, it will be tier 9 in Reforged. Yes.

[verbal hemlock]

And the UI too, the old UI had a modern look, words without borders, everything looked clean, now everything has a border, looks techy, and although it’s different and support to be something new, it looks genuinely ugly

[burnt mist]

Totally

I hate the UI change.

I want my 10 button left sidebar back.

( or however many there are actually )

Don't force a PC interface on me ... basically ... when the left sidebar gives one click access to the most important stuff.

[verbal hemlock]

Man I remember when I first saw the reforged trailer link, I was so exited, I thought the games graphics would look like WoTpc I thought it would bring Swedish TDs, moving suspension parts, bigger maps, my excitement was extremely high, but then, I saw sets, keys, the UI, the fact that every tanks tiers was now in numbers, cartoonish commanders instead of actual tank commanders, I lost all my excitement, idk if I was expectations were too high but I was bummed.

I remember when I was little I remember how exited I got when shot markers were added and the suspension was added with Yoh tanks with the new graphics, but look at it now

The excitement is gone, idc I am gonna complain, the fact that there were soo many changes done for no reason just makes me soo mad, like it reminds me of that one saying ‘why change it if it’s not broken’ like idc if it was for the game to look different, idc if it was to look new I just liked all the old stuff when blitz was good, I remember when there were soo many glitches in the game, when the maps had huge hills, like that’s what makes the game fun all those little bugs got invisible walls, all the maps got flattened like it was supposed to be for a game, the snowy textures on dead rail looked like the place was dead and abandoned for years, the old tank destroyed modules look like the tanks were fully blown up, all the hatches were open, the E100 had parts of the side skirt missing like it had fallen off, like where did all the good stuff go? Like “we are going to change credits to silver”, like are you joking ?

Woo what a change can we have a round of a applause for changing the name of credits to silver, like I am gonna rant, seeing a game that I played for 9 years now, though-out my childhood just fully change, just because it needs to me more child friendly, just so it could make more money for the company, is soo annoying, like wg already makes enough money my adding literal gambling and adding one off exclusive tanks like the Type 5 Heavy instead of making it a tech tree which already angers the player base, and they get away with it, like imagine if they didn’t add ‘sets’ to being with, there would literally been no complains of Tech Trees in reforged, not a single person would have said “why didn’t they change the Tech Trees for reforged” because the concept of sets or a need for change simply didn’t exist, but now it does. Imagine if they didn’t change the graphics for reforged, people would have complained because it’s unread engine and the game needs to look better because it looks dated, that because it’s a change everyone wanted, but a change that no one even thought of was sets, like brother

https://tenor.com/view/brain-hurts-gif-12096381820083648834

Like idk if I am doing too much but I can’t just keep my opinions to my self when I see pointless changes being made

[granite trench]

Within 48 hours of the release of reforged, I expect to lose anywhere between 50-75 percent of my clan base.

[granite trench]

I feel exactly the same way! The people in management who threw away company funds for this garbage should of been voted out of office months ago! To the CEO of WG, I hope you read this!

[inner spruce]

🤣

[solar vapor]

Physics ☠️

[burnt mist]

They're getting closer and closer at dialing that in.

[old moss]

Agreed

[sacred plaza]

But still, they are going to release a product that isn't even fully completed, let alone polished to work well and look nice. The game still has optimization issues on most devices. They haven't let us test game modes or the 'new' module upgrades. There are so many things that still need to be done before this releases.

[solid badge]

ok first,add the potato graphic,my laptop are dying

[manic beacon]

Will we still get the x3 and x5 in reforged? Will we be able to save them for later if we want? I hate being chained to a certain tank I am grinding rather than playing whatever I want. It is especially hard for platoons because they may or may not have the tier you need or might have them they need to get on thier side.

[manic beacon]

Do you mean on the current WOT? If your system can't handle it now, it won't for reforged. You think you can get a new device in two months? Get a phone or a tablet over a laptop IMO.
There is a test you can try to see if it will run it. https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/content/system-requirements-reforged-update/

[solid badge]

Yes, I've already tried the beta test of WoT Reforged, and with average graphics settings, I can still play the game quite smoothly.

[prisma maple]

Also why didn't they add feature to deactivate this certificates, It's a waste if I'm not grinding and playing Tanks that's already max via module and it's tech tree
And when I finally decide to grind, I've already wasted Every XP certificates I have

[native vigil]

What are the minimum requirements to run the reforged version? My laptop ram is 16 gb

[torn folio]

Please, there should definitely be some fun modes included from the beginning.
There are certainly more players than just me who mainly play fun modes.
As the name already suggests, it's fun.
I hardly play the other modes at all.

[deft dune]

yes please, one of the reasons why wotb has an edge is from gamemodes

[deft dune]

who actually cares about that

sets are literally better tech trees, when keys are removed

everything is so flexible now

one of the few good things about reforged

[slate scroll]

Will free xp be removed/replaced in the reforged update? Is it advantageous to spend it before the update?

[inner spruce]

it gets converted into data cards

[slate scroll]

Okay, thanks

[dense jetty]

they are

realistic has been done in very recent closed test so it means we can see more

[tribal crater]

Hi, I wanted to ask if it will still be possible to buy tanks after the reforged update.

[inner spruce]

yes ? can still buy them but you cannot sell any

[severe coral]

One thing I will say, keys may be removed which is well and all, but please don't introduce a silly levelling system into blitz when it really isn't needed. And furthermore, don't double down on that by locking certain sets from being ground till the player reaches a higher level on their account.

That's not a good direction to take for blitz and one I definitely disagree with

[winter gorge]

they should just leave the current system and tech tree and etc

[pure flume]

Imagine not being able to sell tanks…

The fact that this reforge is actually coming is genuinely giving me symptoms of depression.

[inner spruce]

guess it makes sense to someone in wg 🤷🏼‍♂️ lol

[pure flume]

[pure flume]

It’s good to speak out about this, it’s the single most important time for people to do such on a mass scale in this community, as the very game we all came together on is being fundamentally changed for the worse in a lot of ways. I don’t see that being acceptable for any gaming community to tolerate and I can only hope that those who feel this strongly realise they need to speak, even if they don’t want to. That’s if you actually want to see the game survive.

Wg have to pull a miracle with this update and change so much before it’s even remotely acceptable in the next month, I would like this judgment call I’ve made to be proven wrong more than ever, but I fear it will be right.

This coming reforged update has probably been the thing that I’ve been most vocal about EVER, in this server, yes, I I still have and had my gripes with wg and their practices/lack of in quite a few things with the current game, and I’ve called them on it in here, but I’ve not been so persistently active in trying to stop something, as I have with the advent of the Reforged update.

I can confidently and accurately state that this is the single biggest negative development I’ve seen from WG over the entire course of this game’s existence, and I’ve been around for all of it.

I’m extremely unhappy about it.

[raw yacht]

I'm gonna be telling all my friends to not play the new blitz update

1. There's no fun modes like Big Boss and Total Domination in Reforged
2. If it crashes literally the 0.1 second I open the game

[dense jetty]

there is?

cuz they are literally giving a preview on fun modes in reforged

they tried realistic mode in reforged already actually so i think more fun modes will come

[inner spruce]

they will come yes maybe not right away but yeah they're in the works so to say

[raw yacht]

Let's go that's why I play blitz

[burnt mist]

Wrong ...
The first game mode will be Big Boss.
RE: crashes
Did you post your issue and technical device details in the reforged channel?
I would try the next ultra test ...

[verbal hemlock]

the nest ultra test?

[dense jetty]

ut5 will be on last of may for a week

[verbal hemlock]

i guess the players have one more chance

[dense jetty]

now that i think about it

new gamemode will be hella chaotic due to gravitons and the new physics

i wonder if its frustating or good

[burnt mist]

We will have to wait and see 🙂

I don't expect everything to be perfect the first go around 😄

[inner spruce]

can't wait tbh - much rather play reforged than blitz now anyways haha

[alpine solstice]

Same. I cant await 17th of june. My only concern are lags on UE5 but hopefully it will be all fixed by then if not already

[inner spruce]

tbf only had a lag spike like micro one when game started didnt notice ping lag not even on a na server an im eu player

going to test the apac servers on next test see how that goes haha

[dense jetty]

i am actually surprised that redditors are somewhat favorable to this

mainly the way they arent bashing the issues now

[alpine solstice]

Are there even enough players on APAC UT servers to find frequent matches? 😂

[inner spruce]

good point haha i'll just batter their bots then hahaha

[dense jetty]

u occassionally see russian player base here lol

only game mode u dont see ppl much is ratings

[inner spruce]

yeah fr met the odd human now n then but not often and was usually the same guy lol

[dapper axle]

is there any new news on reforge?

[alpine solstice]

RU players on APAC? Doesnt seem too odd for me yeah😂

[inner spruce]

new as in ? newer than what got announced ? no havent heard any , keys got removed erm ? about it rly

[alpine solstice]

Release will be on June 17th

[inner spruce]

and a possible test in may

[dense jetty]

they dropped so many activites in may ngl

[junior ingot]

Its for blitz to go out with a bang and there to be silence in reforged.

[hearty jacinth]

Are we gonna have TSR anti aliasing in reforged?

[silk olive]

I hope so.

They are "praising" the Reforged a lot.

So we have to see those extreme graphical updates and extreme new tech tree tanks.

[inner spruce]

did have a ray tracing thing on it but that hammered ur fps so i turned that off

[silk olive]

Yeah RayTracing is good no lie.

[distant minnow]

I didn't notice any difference between ray tracing off and on except the fps drop

[inner spruce]

all i noticed too

[torn folio]

I participated in this test... but Realistic is not a FUN mode for me... 🙂

[torn folio]

Hopefully u r right. This will save me to play reforged.

[stark topaz]

am I reading this right that this is the final version of Reforged? There was just SOOOOOO much wrong with the last test 😔

[upbeat carbon]

there will be a final test in the next weeks

[cyan spire]

Please, please...
Let's hope it all will be ready 😭

[burnt mist]

🤞🏼 🙏

[modern solar]

Even my client is not excited about reforged

[hearty jacinth]

Five one

[ancient wagon]

Do you have mods per chance?

[modern solar]

Nope

[ancient wagon]

Weird. A reinstall usually solves this. Some files are probably messed up

[errant sable]

[zenith drum]

That could have easily been implemented into current tech trees and no one would have complained. Literally all benefits sets bring could be implemented in current tech trees. They just bring problems and negativity that tech trees don't have, so I still don't see why are sets needed

hell, even the set view could've been implemented into tech trees as like a branch specialization overview that showcases the branch of tanks with their pros, cons and features kinda like WoWs (for example a branch could be polsih TDs for europe, or soviet light tanks)

[old moss]

100%

I hope they’ve fixed the Home Screen as well. It was way too complex and overloaded.

And gameplay had gone backward from UT3

[zenith drum]

Definitely, I love the current UI and its style but I just can't with the new one

[old moss]

It’s like we’re anti progress which is absolutely not correct but it has to be progress not regression which it’s feeling like to me atm.

[zenith drum]

fr lol

ngl, if they had released UT-1 as a standalone game (the concept with commanders, sets, etc... but with later UT's techniczl improvements), I would've been fine with it and would've prob played it but the fact that it replaces current blitz means it has to be an evolution of it which it's preetty far from rn

[stark topaz]

Are they going to let us sell tanks?

[narrow hull]

Is WG planning on fixing steamrolls? Like either allied team or enemy team collapses within 2 mins

[inner spruce]

nope no selling, they haven't said its going to change , steamrolls ? nah that's down to the team lol

[deft dune]

we can't be sure as the reason wg moving to UE5 is due to they can't manipulate dava easily

[deft dune]

and what even is the disadvantage of sets now when keys are gone

tech trees are inferior in almost every way

[zenith drum]

That's not what I was refering to, my point is that all extra features that sets have could easily be implemented in the tech tree concept that we have into current blitz. Essentially, just port current blitz's tech trees to reforged and then it's just easy to implement the extra features

[deft dune]

isn't that's what sets are now

[zenith drum]

More confusing and less linear, especially with the new upgrade system

Also, sets can now be blocked depending on plauer level which gives players less freedom when choosing what to grind

[deft dune]

is this referring to set levels or module upgrades? because I don't think anyone will not be familiar with the former

[zenith drum]

If you belive sets are tech trees with extra features, then that's a big fat lie my guy

[deft dune]

good since newbies won't torment themselves and their teammates with hard tanks/lines

they should start with the basics

[zenith drum]

Choosing a hard to use line and learning it is part of the core experience imo

[zenith drum]

They don't need sets for that, if you guide them into the easy parts of the tech trees, why hard lock most of the choice ?

[zenith drum]

Tank upgrades which replace modules, that's out of the tech tree and you only need credits for that now iirc

[deft dune]

unless you immediately go into discord, reddit or something, you wouldn't be able to know which one is forgiving

[zenith drum]

If the game tells you to take this or this line and you choose another, that's your choice. The game just need a slightly better tutorial (which considering they're essentially making a brand you game, wouldn't have been hard to include in)

[deft dune]

yeah, there are less details on what you are paying for, and you can't use stock modules, which is a definitely a downgrade

[deft dune]

still, they probably wouldn't be able to grasp gameplay that requires repositioning and map awareness, since that requires game knowledge.

so they would be more of a burden and die a lot

I myself almost chose the fv183 line as my first since I only see big damage = good tank

[zenith drum]

That's just normal and will always happen wether there are sets or tech trees. I'm just saying that where the sets would force you to play smth like 3 specific lines first, the tech trees would heavily suggest you grind those same line. In the end, with the trees you still have the choice to ignore the suggestion and grind the line you want

[deft dune]

if i remember correctly level-locked sets are only for some tds and lights, so you still have some flexibility in chosing your tanks, for mediums and heavies

[burnt mist]

KEYS Are going away, so there is no tech tree or set lock.

[zenith drum]

And for newbies ?

[burnt mist]

Total newbies, will have access to a few sets at first. No details at this time.

[zenith drum]

True, but they're still locked

[deft dune]

I do remember that the fv183 line requires lvl 80 to start researching

and some complex tanks have similar amounts

[burnt mist]

Oh player level … don’t know. I only heard the news regarding keys.
I have a good number of lines completed, so did not look beyond keys - no keys in UT4

If we are talking about within a line or set, that progress is similar to grinding a line in current blitz

[zenith drum]

If you heavily suggest those same lines to new players and really incentivise them, why have the other lines locked, if you decide to completly ignore the tutorial and research some hard line, that's your choice

[tidal oak]

So your player level is tied to how far you've unlocked stuff, so a veteran player that got all of the tech trees unlocked before Reforged dropped will get a good chunk of rewards

[deft dune]

because that is similar to you playing the grille 15 in the frontlines when everybody else suggests otherwise

there are reasons why those lines are heavily incentivised to newbies

[burnt mist]

Note, I am not heavily suggesting anything tank wise or line wise or nation wise.
The only advice I typically tell new players is to look at heavies and medium tanks first 🙂

[deft dune]

and that's the way it should be

[burnt mist]

So, I am not sure where the notion was that some lines a heavily incentivized

[deft dune]

usually when newbies ask what should their first few lines be, it's either E100, 60TP or IS7

because the tech trees are forgiving overall and the end result is good

that's my idea of heavily incentivised, I think reforge will apply this logic and give newbies these lines to start, for free

[burnt mist]

I understand it now. Yes, likely will be something along those lines.

[wheat idol]

Why does the reforged update exist???? Who actually wants it??

[burnt mist]

The main reason it started is for further development and improvement options

[wheat idol]

but why change the whole game? i get making graphics and gameplay(in battle controls ect...) better, but why change everything??

[burnt mist]

Well ... I wish I knew.

I was not involved in anything in that whole process.

I think WG wanted to prove they could do a few things different and better; to attract more players ... and in doing so, kinda drank too much of the koolaid, so to speak.

[inner spruce]

🤣

[wheat idol]

yeah i dont even know what to say about that decision.................. i agree tho with what u said

[old moss]

I thought the whole point was that the Unreal engine was going to herald better gameplay/graphics/experience. Instead we have the offspring of a donkey and a gerbil.

[drifting moon]

Will coins stay after reforged update? So I can continue collecting for one of the fearless tanks?

[civic moss]

Once the update goes live, will this also include the Switch port?

[cosmic lotus]

Yes, Switch will be included.

[civic moss]

Is it an automatic jump or a separate download from the old app?

[cosmic lotus]

It should be similar to the test apps; a download.

[warm knot]

The Reforged Update is just that, a regular, but bigger-sized, update 🙂

[maiden yarrow]

Really impressive how the in the side by side comparison with the ‘old’ pbr graphics reforged just looks way more flat. I get visuals are subjective but I surely can’t be the only one that finds the new graphics jarring

[severe coral]

I do think the graphics could have taken that step further, but it's whatever ig. I think they do look good and better than current blitz, I'm not sure why blitz doesn't look exceptional on max graphics compared to other UE5 games though

[dense jetty]

also is there anyways to dump the crew exp or not

[burnt mist]

It will be converted during the transfer event.

[faint lodge]

Suggestion: Add Voice Chat with Built-in Moderation

Hi! I would like to suggest adding voice chat to the game, combined with proper moderation tools to prevent toxicity.

Voice communication would significantly improve team coordination, especially in fast-paced battles and tournaments, where text chat is not practical.

Suggested features:
• Push-to-talk (to avoid background noise)
• Team-only voice chat (no global voice)
• Ability to mute individual players
• Option to fully disable voice chat

Moderation & safety system (similar to PUBG: Battlegrounds):
• Simple in-game reporting for voice abuse
• Warning system for first violations
• Automatic temporary voice chat bans after repeated reports
• Escalating penalties (1 day / 7 days / permanent ban)
• Optional detection of offensive language

This approach would improve gameplay while keeping the environment respectful and safe for all players.
I believe many players would support this feature. Thanks for your consideration!

[lyric niche]

i agree 100%, this would escalate the gameplay to a whole new level

[faint lodge]

🤝🥳

[random glacier]

Will any of these certificates be carried to the next update or do these need to be cashed in now?

[inner spruce]

wow one serious collection .. think they'll still all be there tbf

[dense jetty]

yep

[vestal thunder]

Holy

[errant sable]

Every-time i see were they think “ better “ is the complete opposite in my view since the complete changes of UI through the years

[random glacier]

@inner spruce thank you. I actually have 2 more pages of uncashed in tank certs along with 57 keys. I understand the keys will go away so I’ll need to cash them out. Playing for almost 12 years Ypu get to the point where you accumulate and not spend.

[maiden yarrow]

I think this would be great, still I can already imagine some 13yr yelling profanities over vc

[fluid wren]

Wiecie gdzie zgłosić błąd z

[cosmic lotus]

Błędy oraz inne usterki w bieżącej wersji Blitz można zgłaszać do działu wsparcia, korzystając z poniższego linku. Błędy w Reforged można zgłaszać na dedykowanym kanale raportowania, który zostanie otwarty wraz z nadejściem kolejnej fazy Ultra Testów.

Na tym serwerze wymagane jest posługiwanie się językiem angielskim. W razie potrzeby prosimy o skorzystanie z translatora.
(report bugs to support, use English)

[mental ether]

@fluid wren, you can reach out to the support using the following link: https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/help/

[fluid wren]

Pisałem na support ale to mi odpisali. Niestety, Dział Wsparcia Gracza nie zajmuje się problemami związanymi z grą Blitz Reforged. Pomoc w tej sprawie można znaleźć na oficjalnym serwerze Discord gry.

@cosmic lotus ok dziękuje

I chodzi oto że nie mogę włączyć reforge ponieważ nie mogę pobrać aktualizacji która nie wyświetla mi się w sklepie Play

[cosmic lotus]

Serwery testowe są obecnie nieczynne, ale w maju odbędzie się kolejna tura testów. Śledźcie aktualności, aby nie przegapić związanych z tym ogłoszeń. Będziecie mogli wtedy sprawdzić nową wersję i zgłosić wszelkie napotkane błędy.

I prosimy – używajcie języka angielskiego. Naprawdę tego wymagamy.
(test servers not open now, wait until May. Use English).

[fluid wren]

Yes

[slender wolf]

If there can be one last change, remove hull upgrades

[rocky cobalt]

I agree it’s an unnecessary addition upgrade that is not needed. Just leave it with the tank’s turret upgrade

[vernal spruce]

make a less modern interface cuz its a ww2 game so why putting a modern futuristic ui?

and im not the only one saying to change interface

[slender wolf]

so where exactly is it advertised as a ww2 game?

[slender wolf]

This is the "about this game" section on steam:

the one and ONLY mention of such is this line: "Proper history-book machines share the Garage with prototypes"

[normal hinge]

What is their plan when it comes to music in reforged? I dont like the same thing being constantly played I would rather have the current wotb soundtrack play and have the whole thing go through like how wot pc does

[distant minnow]

Yea exactly

[amber tide]

"blow off steam"

[floral blade]

will the reforge update still run on a ryzen 5 3500u cpu? got 20gb of ram on it

[distant minnow]

Yes

[burnt mist]

WG Article on system reqs.

https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/content/system-requirements-reforged-update/

[pastel root]

Please don't use spoiler tags on this server.
The reason why we can't allow them is that they've frequently been used to post inappropriate content in the past.

[narrow hull]

Def

[floral blade]

neat, thanks

[slender wolf]

wait until we figure out how to mod reforged

[sage zealot]

No more Dynamic Aim in Reforged ⁉️

[lyric niche]

We should definitely see global chat back in reforged, imagine launching new multiplayer game with no chat enabled?
Sounds like a meme to most

[faint lodge]

🤝🤝

[fluid wren]

Do you know how to fix this issue? Google Play doesn’t show the update — it only shows “Play” and “Uninstall,” but in the game it says I need to update WOTB Reforged.

[vestal thunder]

Reforged isn't open yet

[fluid wren]

@vestal thunder “I can’t update Reforge because the Google Play Store doesn’t give me the option to update it.”

[burnt mist]

Reforged testing is closed at this time.
There will be a new technical test in about 7 days.
See: https://discord.com/channels/481445776178806785/1499675053678268536

And then after that technical test there will be an ultra test for everybody late may.

[fluid wren]

Thanks

[pine heart]

wait for Ref

[lilac wharf]

597713048
Aziz_Alijonov

[fervent jewel]

Wrong channel.
Go to #techtest-may-registration

[sharp bronze]

dedaxanovv13

[tepid escarp]

What should I write in this channel?

[cosmic lotus]

This channel is just for discussion of the Reforged Update and the various tests of it. The name of the channel usually let's you know but some also have channel rules in the pinned messages. Check the 📌 at the top to see any channel rules and other important information.

[dim plover]

Guys, is there list of tanks got nation change in Reforged yet?

[slender wolf]

@ancient wagon I figured you would have more information on this, but are the missiles on the sheridan and kpz functional now in the coming version of reforged testing (idk if its the final one but still)

[tidal leaf]

Message:
"Hi Wargaming Team,

I am writing to suggest an expansion for the Hybrid Nation tech tree. It would be a great addition to include all the Defender series tanks and other existing Hybrid Nation tanks within a unified tech tree structure.

Many players appreciate the unique gameplay these tanks offer, and having them organized in the Hybrid tree would make the nation feel more complete and rewarding to progress through.

Looking forward to seeing more diversity in the Hybrid lineup!

Best regards,
[dengrousGaming]"

[worldly hawk]

what if the wot blitz team would add a trading system?

to the reforged update

i have suggestion 1. you can only trade a tanks from tier 5-10 2. you can only trade premium tanks and collector's tanks 3. to trade the tank you need to have the same tier as the tank you want to trade. like 8 tier trade for 8 tier 4. you need to have unlocked tier 10 in tech tree or 1 year played. 5. you cant trade the same tank and sold tank you need to have bought tank to trade. that's my suggestion for trading system to wot b reforged update. answer me if this idea is good. Thank you

[wheat idol]

i think its good and ive hoped for this for about 6 months. I have a buddy that wants e25 but he cant get it, ive gotten it 3 times so i would happily give him 1 even honestly(i dont like it that much)

[vestal thunder]

Ew no

[limpid snow]

What's going to happen to the tank research certificates?

[floral blade]

oh btw, will tank restoration for collector/prems still exist?

[thorn jungle]

yes but you can't sell tank anymore in reforged

[zinc zinc]

Can someone help me with a suggestion? I am wondering that should I purchase a techtree tank later in reforged or now. Which option is better? Because I have heard about the price of techtree will be higher.

[lapis sparrow]

Now. After reforged, you need more silver to upgrade ur tanks to the top models.

[quasi sun]

^

[stuck kestrel]

@lapis sparrow what will XP good for then?

[unkempt horizon]

hey guys i heard the tech tree will be reworked again and some tanks will become collectors is it true?? do i need buy any of them for safekeep??

something about tier 1 to 3

[barren juniper]

Make the Battles longer in reforged

[old moss]

Are we still keeping the STUPID names for sets? It’s like they were written by a 3 year old. They have literally zero add to the game and I think people may have been more forgiving if they hadn’t used such ridiculous names.

[rocky cobalt]

Some of the names are cool. I like Defenders Corp

[old moss]

No they are not…

They mean absolutely nothing

[agile sand]

what other names were there for the sets?

[cosmic lotus]

It may not be obvious but there's actual game lore behind that name. The tanks in the set also have "defender" features in common.
https://eu.wotblitz.com/en/news/event/mk1-defender/?original_host=wotblitz.com

[inner spruce]

ppl need to dry them eyes about sets haha so what some of them got daft names - move on huh not that big a deal 🤷🏼‍♂️

[frozen dagger]

Hello, can you tell me why the May test discussion has disappeared from the English channel?

[old moss]

It is when you’re messing up a game that works and is popular to introduce changes that no one asked for. At last survey about 50% really disliked Sets and removal of keys makes the introduction of Sets even more ridiculous. The names of Sets indicate a dumbing down to somehow make things easier for new users.. Without Keys the Set logic could easily be accommodated in the standard tech tree.

[frozen dagger]

I found and saw everything, thank you

[inner spruce]

not sure how moving the game to an engine that we have devs for is messing it up , sure no one rly asked for sets,keys etc but i dont see them as an issue tbf just something they thought of thats not a good idea - a habit they have , which in turn could be changed yet ... still got a tech tree so works for me i can get around game 🤷🏼‍♂️

[thorn jungle]

don't like sets too but for sure its nice to have something really new

[idle topaz]

I feel like modules for credits suck for new players

[distant minnow]

Bring back the provisions or fix the equipments if you want to keep the provisions as equipments

[molten lintel]

Just bring back the provisions , removing them will hurt tanks with mutiple provisions like RHM Panzer , Skoda T56 , Prowler ,...

[tidal yoke]

Hey, can I restore my tank that i sold here in original blitz at Reforge?

[warm knot]

Yes

[tidal yoke]

Thx for reply

[quartz hill]

can you add the number of camo certificates we have in the new camo section ?

[vagrant zealot]

Can we make the number of ammo finite again like original blitz?
And I don't know what's the advantage of having infinite standard ammo since nobody will ever run out of it anyway lol

[warm knot]

Feels pretty bad when you do run out though. Unlikely to happen to better players, but for newbies it can be a different story

[queen palm]

are the tanks that can only be restored through website still gone in reforge?

[meager sedge]

Is the mm in reforged gonna change or are you keeping the current mm?

[vagrant zealot]

I'm pretty sure you will run out of ammo if you intentionally shoot every single time you load without purpose.

[faint pasture]

Doesn't only happen to new players honestly xD

[vagrant zealot]

Yeah but what are the odds of it happening?
You have to be the luckiest player to get all the damage out of your ammunition or you are just trolling and ended up finishing your ammo during battle

[faint pasture]

What's the disadvantage of infinite standard ammo?

[vagrant zealot]

There's no disadvantage, but it kind of makes the game more..... arcade like, unrealistic to some extent in my humble opinion

[thorn jungle]

Very easy to do in fun games modes on specific tanks like e25 or bat chat line.

[vagrant zealot]

That can be solved by making ammo infinite in fun game modes only.
In main game and in realistic, they make them finite

[faint pasture]

I bet few people will actually notice and for those who do it doesn't give them any disadvantage so it doesn't really matter honestly
Also blitz is not a realistic game at all

[vagrant zealot]

true

[thorn jungle]

Waste of time, ther is no disadvantage to this and this game is not realistic at all with dracula and anime tanks.

[vagrant zealot]

hm.
You make a point.

[astral sigil]

Really excited for Reforged 🔥
The new graphics and tanks look amazing.

I think Reforged is a really good decision for the future of Blitz 🔥
I’m excited to test the new graphics, tanks and effects during the Preview Weekend and see how well my phone can handle it.

[gilded raven]

more infos about this Map WG when???

[silk olive]

Wait wait wait, what about the Grille 15? It got buff??

[cosmic surge]

quite soon 😉

[desert oasis]

Hi all, does anyone know what will happen with all our resources when we move to Reforged? All the items I have in storage: certificates, camouflages, boosters, other items. Thanks. 🙏

[warm knot]

You'll keep them.

[meager sedge]

Hey @warm knot I sent you a dm check it out plz 🙏

[quartz hill]

Oh please

[brave wolf]

If i have all tanks fully equipped with their modules, will i have them all unlocked in reforged?

will it be possible to chose which tanks are at display in the new garage?

[agile sand]

I kinda don't like the Module upgrade system

[grand hawk]

The current rating avatars that you progress by winning games in each league, will these avatars be retired in reforged?

[hardy burrow]

Як зв'язатися з власником форми?

[mental ether]

@hardy burrow, please note, that the official language of this server is English. If you want to speak Russian/Ukrainian, please join the server below.
Официальным языком этого сервера является английский. Если вы хотите говорить на русском, пожалуйста, присоединяйтесь к серверу ниже.
Офіційною мовою цього сервера є англійська. Якщо ви хочете говорити українською, будь ласка, приєднуйтесь до сервера нижче.
https://discord.gg/mkNtBAYcWy

[next coyote]

A-20 Havoc in the garage !!! Freaking AWESOME !!

😎

[cosmic lotus]

@next coyote If you need to explain it you actually need to spell it out in the message. Otherwise, if it looks like abbreviated swearing it's going to be treated like abbreviated swearing.

Just repost that without the abbreviations or leave out the "freaking" entierely..

[last plover]

any idea the price of tier X in reforged?
since we are going to use silver only to “grind”. What will happen to xp, free xp and crew xp?

[agile sand]

I think the normal xp was for set progress and free xp, I dont quite remember if it got used for something or converted and crew xp probably stays the same

[topaz hedge]

How is the reforge working on macOS right now? Is there a table shows expected frame rate for different Apple Sillicon chip?

My mac, M3Pro, can run Cyberpunk2077, reaching around 50FPS, 2k resolution, with metal upscale. However, reforged UT4, a mobile game, cannot reach 30FPS with the resolution chosen as 50% on my 4k screen.
Also, I can run current blitz in 4k, 60fps without a sweat. The only reason not playing in 120hz is because current blitz don't support it on macOS.

[hidden canyon]

The answer of player support no clear my question.

.

Contact someone technical or Reforged knowledge to answer my questions

[white crane]

you don't lose your accounts, your default account is the account you will log into reforged with
you can change which account is default at any time

[hidden canyon]

I had participate 3 time test, the accounts that I only can access turing the Reforged Test is the Europe one, I scare if the Reforged Update coming, it will happend the same

@white crane

[white crane]

thats due to the test version of the servers operating differently from live servers

[hidden canyon]

Hope could be that, thanks to the answer @white crane

[cosmic lotus]

Also, we have been asked to not ping Wargaming staff (including Alexandra).

Currently Binu is open to being pinged. Please direct questions to him when they can not be answered by CH's or Mods.

[hidden canyon]

Done

@warm knot

[vestal thunder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1333425794479034462/1465046381977796791/wg_support_short.gif

[cosmic lotus]

I had a chance to look at your original problem: not receiving the activation code. Apparently it happens often enough for Support to have a website article about it. If you've checked the obvious places for the email with the code (see article) use the link to submit a ticket. There's no specific "code not received category, so just pick a likely suspect and clearly state that you did not receive the activation code.

Sometimes support can be easily confused, so try to keep it simple. 😉
https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/10199/

[vagrant zealot]

Hello, I have been given the role to test the reforged update, when will the link be sent today?

[mystic prism]

Read first texts here and pin message https://discord.com/channels/481445776178806785/1501952077847330887

[vagrant zealot]

Thank you

[mystic prism]

My pleasure.

[void knot]

Will we have to buy garage slots? I don't want to buy more garage slots for gold now if I don't have to buy any in Reforged

[mystic prism]

There is No more garage slots in Reforged.
Because selling tanks is No more available on Reforged as well.
So you can own tanks as many as you want without worrying about garage slots.

[topaz berry]

Please make the certificates for XP (x3,x4,x5,x10) work ONLY when you're in top 3 for damage dealt. It's so annoying when they get used on matches when i get instantly focused and deleted after shooting once or twice

[agile sand]

or make it like world of tanks pc, that you can choose if you wanna activate it after a match or not

[desert oasis]

I’ve sold off most of my Tier 1-4 tanks as I don’t usually play those tiers. With the Vintage Tier coming to Reforged should I buy back any or all of these low tier tanks?

[wheat patrol]

Hey guys my wotb on google play doesnt allow so i gotta use taptap but idk if i can be an tester in unreleased ver of wotb can any1 answer my question

[old moss]

What happens to free XP when reforged hits?

Is it best to dump it now?

[inner spruce]

turns into data cards

[ancient wagon]

You'll still have them in the form of data cards

[queen palm]

will the website restoration tanks(tanks that can be restored but arent available in the garage restoration tab) still dissapear in reforged?

[void knot]

Thanks for the info! Now I won't waste my gold on garage slots, I'll wait until the change over to Reforged.

[mystic prism]

My pleasure.

[sleek laurel]

Are there any resources we should get rid of during the Mercenary Hideout event that we won't really need in Reforged?

[void knot]

Just been playing Reforged- tanks still get stuck if they run over a destroyed tank turret. Same problem over the last 3 tests. I've flagged this problem 3 times now.

[pallid egret]

Game crashes when I press the settings button 😀

Even in battle

[barren valley]

Yea tested the turret thing you will stuck

[meager acorn]

Did we ever get info on compensation for existing garage slots + slot tokens?

[mystic prism]

Developers said that there will be a compensation for garage slots, but they have not decided yet.
Hope they see our texts and tell us >_<

[meager acorn]

We're 40 days from when Reforged is supposed to release and yet we still don't know.....

[arctic tide]

would’ve been best to try and optimize mobile’s settings problem with graphics, camera movement and most importantly the FPS

The FPS drops a lot when its in high AND Low settings

[mystic prism]

Binu said about garage slots compensation, if we catch him online texting in a channel.
We can ask him about it

[arctic tide]

because since it stills Unoptimizable on Mobile for most players and CC’s that doesnt like the fps drops on mobile devices and even drops low as 30 fps on Lowest possible settings and i think reforged is still NOT ready

[cosmic lotus]

I haven't seen a figure specifically for each item, but there is a credit increase in the transfer hub for all the items like that one.

I can also confirm that the devs are aware of players being interested in garage slots being compensated.

[meager acorn]

yippee....credits

[pallid egret]

Does anyone experience the game crashing when opening the settings tab??

[gilded raven]

yes

[meager acorn]

Something else Im noticing is this conversion is not in my favor at all. I have tank coupons in my storage that are worth more than 11.7k gold

[pallid egret]

I feel like this playtest is worse than the previous

[civic moss]

Will the Zetsu line be added with the Reforged jump?

[faint elk]

Yes, the Type 5 line is scheduled to release on June 17 along with the update

[astral path]

Screen repositions itself when message 'fetching localization' appears.

[limber cargo]

What’s happened to the win rate of individual tanks? I can find the win rate for the account but where have the 30, 90 and 365 win rates for the account gone? Are they not in reforged? On recommended graphics for my device it looks absolutely garbage, like a cartoon still. My fears for Reforged are coming true. It’s going to be a disaster.

[normal arch]

alright Weegee, i played 20 battles (if you don't belive me, then go & check, my account is MDS_SudiosYT)

[limber cargo]

I’ve just played another battle on reforged. Seriously WG it’s absolutely awful. Please, please don’t release this crap. The graphics are abysmal, the feel of the gameplay is years behind current blitz. The UI is still really disappointing. The tanks look like cartoons, not like real vehicles how they do in current blitz. The way the guns fire and hit feels numb and unrealistic. Reforged ping is way higher than current blitz so there’s lag. This is going to be a disaster.

[normal arch]

ah ok

[astral path]

do you know... 1. I never did Rating Battles in regular Blitz, But in Reforged I can play Rating... are calibration battles no longer needed? And 2, are platoons still forbidden in Rating battles?

[dark tartan]

i keep getting this popup whenever i want to login into my account, how can i resolve this issue?

[astral path]

Replays do not show battle results at the end of the replay.

[astral path]

i mistakenly started 2 or 3 downloads at same time as screen appeared frozen on steam. but i didn't notice tiny progress bar for download at bottom of screen. i think that brought me same screen as you as the multiple steam downloads had to finish.

[rancid nexus]

When I tried to collect rewards from clan missions, the game crashed, and when I pressed the settings button, it also crashed.

[odd karma]

Everytimes i'm trying to open settings my game is crashing

[dark tartan]

nah, its account related. Since i can login to my friends account

but not some of mine

[pure flume]

More feedback on reforged update: [2 CRITICAL POINTS]

• Standard ammunition should not be infinite in regular/rating/esports modes, you must keep shell limits for each tank, this is an absolutely crucial element to not change, i do not want to play a game with excessively monetised premium ammo and no cut off, this will also deskill people as they will not need to think as much about their ammunition usage and selection.

• Research modules and vehicles should be with XP not credits, just put the effort in to balance stock versions and modules on vehicles so they are playable, instead of giving everyone a free pass to the highest level modules because they're the only ones that are viable in this terribly neglected game balance.

These two changes are detrimental to the game and need to be reverted before release.

[pallid egret]

💯 💯

[limber cargo]

💯 % 👍

[pure flume]

just remove sets as well, stop with the nonsense please, you've made it so much like the tech tree there's no point having sets, never was either.

[limber cargo]

A further comment on device performance. I can run blitz all day on 120fps on my iPad, 2 years old Pro with M1 chip. I cannot run Reforged at 120fps, it took only one battle for it to start to overheat. But running at 60fps is making me feel sick playing the game because the frame rate is too slow compared to what I’m used to. Reforged is a backward step as far as I’m concerned. You’ve built a game for PC and laptop players. Why?

[limber cargo]

💯 %

[copper igloo]

does anyone know why I can't login to reforged? keeps telling me "login is forbidden. Pre-download for release is in progress. Try again later." I've waited for hours now

[limber cargo]

Did you get the invite to participate?

[copper igloo]

well I went to steam and it quite literally said "your invited" so I downloaded it and tried to login

[limber cargo]

I’ve got a number of different accounts and only one got asked to participate, that’s the only one I can log in with. Also I’ve read that it’s only iOS players who’ve been invited.

[copper igloo]

well multiple friends of mine are able to play it on pc...

[limber cargo]

Then I don’t know why you’re not allowed in. Maybe raise a ticket?

[odd karma]

About the shell limit i don't really understand the problem ? you can't have an infinite amount of gold shell, only standard and HE so i don't think it's a big problem

[pallid egret]

They really didn't have to change the identity of the game

[pure flume]

the problem is having limited gold and infinite standard, it's monetary, they will still charge a premium and limit gold shells, plus, goodbye fadins medal and a level of realisim, what tank has infinte shell storage?

it seems small, but it will have a big impact on skill and depth wise to the game

[pallid egret]

Unlimited ammo give it the kids /cheap android game vibe

[odd karma]

I'm trying to understand the problem but imo beside the realistic part, i don't see how it can have an impact on skill part, it's not like spamming standard or HE will give any advantage to peoples

[limber cargo]

Unlimited ammo give it the kids /cheap android game vibe

[odd karma]

it's just a little detail, i'm more concerned about things that really matters such as the game optimization

[pallid egret]

Removing the provisions is also a big mistake

[pure flume]

people need to be mindful of their shell usage, it may not be an issue for you because it's second nature by now, as it is for me but, selecting shell type and amount is part of how we play the tanks and affects our shell choice in-game quite a bit, especially in tanks with lower ammunition limits. that, and as you said, it removes a realistic element to the game, which affects the game overall. lots of small issues and oversights add up, fast.

[modern gazelle]

tanks like T-100LT can run out of ammo (which has happened to me)

[urban kindle]

Hello,
I'm a 62-year-old novice player on this game (but I have about 60000 games on wows + games on the test server) Can someone explain the collection system to me? I believe that the XP earned with all the games can advance a collection in order to unlock a new tank?

[burnt juniper]

I got Convoyer few days ago, and yesterday i won Prowler tank from the Event. So, today I saw notification in Blitz about Reforged and downloaded it to play. And there are no Convoyer among my tanks in the garage but Prowler is there. Can anyone help me? I wrote ticket on Blitz site, but they said that they don't deal with the Reforged and to discuss it here on Discord.

[urban kindle]

This is the test version, so when the final version is in place, you should have all your tanks.

[runic aspen]

Hi where making report about bug ? Game crash when I try to open parameters...

[arctic tide]

yeah reforged is not ready Yet
Push date back to november til its completed its all test runs

The tank ontop of another tank is also bugged by allowing user ontop of tank to move instead of “Not moving” like WoT PC

The maps are also buggy on mobile as they Flashing on my screen with lowest settings to secure my 120 FPS and still heavily drops to 50 fps on best mobile device (Ipad Pro M4 Chip)

and its also crashing some of my friends with high-end PC’s with some of the best PC parts to have for gaming and reforged is causing to crash their game or Drop FPS to 60 fps and CPUs they have are undervolted because blitz reforged only takes 50 (10% of CPU’s) they have 3080TI (300-400 watts)

[rancid fossil]

Hi guys! could someone tell me why I couldn't access reforged? I get a message like limited access

[pastel root]

The test-client isn't used for this test.
You needed to sign up in #techtest-may-registration or get an invite in game to be able to test this time.

[rancid fossil]

@pastel root first time not getting access to reforged. So, how can I get the invite or whom is able to send it to me? Thx for your answer

[pastel root]

As far as I know, invites may be based on what device you're playing on.
I'm not sure about it though, but I'm pretty sure that there won't be any invites sent out anymore =/

The test only runs this weekend

[rancid fossil]

@pastel rootInteresting. So being an Ultra Tester apparently doesn’t matter anymore.
Kinda ironic to spend more than a year helping test the game only to be left out of one of the biggest tests. But alright. Thank you!

[pastel root]

The Ultra Tester role just gives you access to the channels on this server.
All of the tech tests required prior sign-up, while the "normal" tests were mostly free for all.

[distant minnow]

Will there be global chat in reforged?

[limber cargo]

That’s terrible, that even M4 chip Pro can’t run it smoothly. I hope WG is listening, if they launch on 17 June it will be a disaster.

[wheat grove]

Quick question, if people have the reforged test
One of my most hated changes from a previous test was Pawlack and Churchill VIII being moved to tier 7
We saw the tier 9/10 changes come to blitz and said no other lower tier changes would happen in current blitz
Is that change still going through? :(
really hoping they don’t ruin my two favorite tier 6’s

[gilded raven]

sry

[wheat grove]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

are they at least good tier 7’s?

[gilded raven]

idk

[rocky cobalt]

Should I buy before the reforge update

[wheat grove]

Enjoy it before reforged
To me i think it’s the most fun tier 6 in the game

[gilded raven]

yes

[solar vapor]

Can you post the stats?

[gilded raven]

its all german sry i can not changed it. the settings are broken

[solar vapor]

Thanks its good

[solar vapor]

Based on what he posted Churchill VIII looks like it wil be terrible.

No alpha buffs, only a modest pen buff, a slight accuracy buff, a slight dpm buff, a significant armour buff, and a buff to its top speed.

[gilded raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1025727276907757581/1271250228661719081/togif.gif

[wheat grove]

Yeah I figured :(
they really don’t know how to balance retiers
Tornvagn is perfect because it was actually reworked with a new gun, every tank that just got mostly no changes aside from new little stat nudges don’t work I don’t think any of them are better off than the tier they were in

[gilded raven]

i wait since UT 1 for the Pz 58 Nation change🙃

[wheat grove]

Churchill VIII i can’t imagine possibly being even just decent in tier 7 or even worse now fighting 8’s

[gilded raven]

[wheat grove]

Churchill VIII as a tier 7 I imagined would just be absolutely awful
Pawlack I just imagine it goes from great to pointless not doing anything better than T29 does

[solar vapor]

Tornvagn is busted though, and the kanonen change wasnt that bad

[gilded raven]

btw this and Brennos are finaly looging for the Update

[solar vapor]

can you check something for me?

[gilded raven]

stats

[solar vapor]

Yeah, im curious if stat changes occured on other tanks, specifically the tier 9s that were recently changed.

[gilded raven]

you mean the last update with VK etc

[solar vapor]

Yeah

[gilded raven]

Skoda T27 Tier 9
Kanone Tier 9
34-4 Tier 9
Souma Tier 9
Vickers 3 Tier 9
Ts 60 Tier 9
Tornvagn Tier 9
T2020 Tier 9

VK 168 Tier 8

ist that form last to changes withe thze Tiers changes, Kpz 70 on Tier 10

Sentinel 4 is Tier 7

Sentinel 1 is Tier 6

its hard to search 713 ingame Tanks

so its 4am for me Gn8

[wheat grove]

They’re still doing the sentinel change?!💀

How do they expect the sentinels to survive at those tiers

[civic moss]

Do it, that thing’s goofy at its tier

[nova gazelle]

buffing them?

[solar vapor]

"Buffing"

[nova gazelle]

yes bro Skoda T27 for example got buffed in health, damage and penetration after changing to tier IX

[wheat grove]

Yeah but most of the time the little stat buffs really don’t do anything and don’t do enough to justify the tank being in the higher tier, as in the stat buffs usually aren’t enough

[solar vapor]

Soda is barely a tier IX, its a buffed tier VIII that fights tier Xs 🤣

[solar vapor]

Big issue is soft stats/accuracy not getting touched

Tanks get gradually better gun handling in high tiers, but thet completely ignore that when they move tanks to different tiers

[nova gazelle]

you said it, buffed bruh

AC IV would be a slower but armored M41

[solar vapor]

🗿

It we probably be terrible, not the least due to having an awful gun, like most of these rebalanced tanks

[wheat grove]

It feels like they don’t actually try at all with these tier changes
all they do is just slap a little extra HP average for the tier buff the armor by like a tiny % and then maybe slightly buff the reload and then call it a day
They don’t actually rework the tank as if they were designing it for that tier, and think that’s enough to move it up a whole tier

.
They just feel like slightly buffed versions of the original tier
Like when I play vickers MBT I don’t feel like I’m playing a tier 9 I just feel like I’m playing a good tier 8, if that makes sense

I feel like it’s this is such a lazy way to buff tanks they’re not actually buffing them at all most of the time they’re worse tier for tier
What happened to just actual buffs within the same tier they proved they can do that very well with IS-5 but they just don’t do that?

Imagine instead of useless tier changes VK 168, 59 Patton, Somua SM etc just got stat buffs to be better in their own tier
some of the tier changes made irl sense like vickers MBT I’m happy is higher tier now, but disappointed that the stats were not buffed enough to actually feel like a tier 9

[solar vapor]

Indeed

[solar vapor]

Yeah, definitely

[solar vapor]

It makes sense they want to flesh out tier 9, because it is an underpopulated tier, but their execution has been terrible

Stuff like Vk 168 or E-75ts getting moved to tier 9 is just silly.

[wheat grove]

The part that makes tier changes in lower tier suck even more is how much caliber matters there
Churchill VIII has a pretty decently large gun with crazy reload for its tier
Move it up one tier and the gun will be just boringly average
Like just one tier difference is huge

Like I play tier 3 a lot for fun (historic favorites like marder II) and down there a 75mm is crazy like you have to have a 12 second reload for it to be fair
Tier 4? Just one tier higher It’s like everyone’s got one they’re not special or broken and have average reload