clan-leadership

[quick oxide]

In game organization is a pain, in larger clans.

[spring quiver]

Would love to see this addressed by the devs. Maybe our new NA community leader can help us out

[fickle glen]

what's easier to implement, pinned messages or worldwide interactive clan wars?

you know, its not a bad suggestion, it would just take a lot more time and focus

something that WG doesn't have right now

[quick oxide]

Clan management on discord is quite easy and straightforward, you only need 1 admin, maybe a few moderators, and there you go ...
In game. It is whole other thing, each time your clan grows by 50, you need another sub-clan with either an ALT account or trusted friend to manage the sub-clan, trusted deputies, etc.

And it is a fighting battle to keep clans active, sub-clans active ... because we're dealing with a mobile game, people have lives, people take breaks, WG pushes out some bad updates, more people take longer breaks, etc

And I am sorry. Discord is not a substitute for clan management ... when the pain point is the 50 member limit in game.

Everything is fine and dandy in game as long as you're under 50 members. Once you're 100, 200, 300 members ... it becomes a LOT trickier.

Have a sub-clan lead go dormant ... what options do you have?

Oh yeah, wait n months to try to replace him/her etc.

With a clan of several hundred, having just 3 clans instead of 6 or 7 would be a lot easier.

And let us have co-clan-leads in game as a backup.

ALT accounts can work ... to some extent ... until that one person who has leadership has a sudden health issue

Many people I know would gladly PAY to increase the membership number and simplify clan management in game.

Oh, I get that point, and I am in a fairly unique clan, in that we don't kick people out for inactivity, but we ask them to move to the -z branch if they're going dormant ... but reality being what it is ... people dont' really think they're taking extended breaks or are uninstalling the game.

My main thing is though ... don't most active clans have like two or three branches?

It would be nice to be able to expand in game.

[fickle glen]

from a clan member's perspective, an alt account as a clan leader for a sub-clan isn't a clan lead. its way too easy to ignore the alt. you're robbing your subclan of an actual clan leader if you just put your alt in as lead and let it go inactive

[quick oxide]

Fair point.

[fickle glen]

normally i'd say it's impossible to be a clan leader for more than 1 clan. its ok to have the final say on decisions made for the sub clan, but you need to find an actual player to be leader, someone who will spend their time with the subclan

[quick oxide]

It certainly is something to consider.
But there's also hundreds if not thousands of dormant clans

[fickle glen]

ive been in a clan where the "lead" is an alt account of the main clan's leader, and it sucks. you have no direct leadership. the only thing you want to do is move up to the main clan where it's not dead, and where all of the "important" people are

[quick oxide]

With 7 clans in game ... it means logistics and nothing is perfect, not discord, not in game ... but at least in discord you get one system for all, regardless of size
( not counting fake troll ones ) ...

Resizing it in game to a few larger ones, would probably do well, because yes, there will always be a sub-clan more active or more competitive than another ...

Anyway. I'm in favor of larger in game clan sizes 🙂

Because good clans attract more people than the 50 limit.

Personally, I don't see it as an issue, as we're more of a demographic clan of like minded people ... and I wouldn't see it an issue if other large clans got to consolidate and simplify leadership in game.

Back in the day, I did not start my own clan with a group of friends ... we decided to join a clan that aligned with what we thought would be how we would run it

New clans will always face an uphill battle

Whether in 2015 or 2025

[wary elk]

The thing is, not all people use discord. so...

[wary elk]

ehhh not rlly tbh, i made one quite recently(neuro and it's subclans). as long as u know what ur doing like constantly recruiting members every few days it's not that hard to grow a clan.
i guess It's more about dedication.

[stray granite]

There are a lot of excellent reasons on both sides of this larger clans debate. While I'm on the larger-leaning side of the argument (I'd like something 100 or less, not a mega-clan), there are a lot of compelling arguments against clan size increases. We clan leaders are not fairly unanimous and there is no clear majority on this topic.

Without a clear majority, I am not going to modify the pinned list. Let's see what WG has in store for us regarding clan sizes in the coming months.

[simple kernel]

I have been a lead several times. Cant say i have ever had a clan that was short slots. There is always a couple inactives that can be temporarily removed. The other thing is if u fill a clan the idea is that you remove the worst players and replace with better ones. But it all depends on the goals of the clan. A more dedicated and specialized group will be fewer then a clan that just says sure anybody can join in to chill. I imagine the servers are different to. NA has a massive need of dedicated comp players. The field is thinner and thinner by the season.

[noble yacht]

@tender socket buddy why u copying my recuirtment 🧐. Use ur own recuirtment

[indigo swallow]

Lol 🤣 literally copy and paste

[scenic pebble]

nop, they did not in 2000. before gaming went mainstream and the freemium model. and became business for making money as the* primary goal. clan management those times was basically 0-effort. 0 time spent on recruiting. 0 time spent on anything really that is just pure time waste (like most of the "management" is now). the only time "wasted" was scheduling CW-s dates-times in leagues/ladders/cups vs other clans.

before the "rewards, missions, events, operations". before stats. All clans were just social groups made of ppl who had met on the server and made a clan to compete with other clans and have fun together, close and tight, knew each other IRL (because of the game, not otherwise) and met up often. typical clans were 10ish people or even elss. in a 4v4 / 5v5 games. not 50 anonymous ppl joining mostly for "rewards" in a 7v7 game. Or joining based on stats.

I was a in two clans simultaneously. Founder/CL/co-CL in one. Just a member in the other. (These 2 clans competed in a completely different gamemode, exclusively, there was no point to merge them). 7y active in both. my only clans i ever belonged to in the game. Celebrated 10y birthdays with both groups even after I'd quit gaming*. now i'm running a clan in blitz and... just cry myself to sleep every night missing those golden times of pc gaming :)

50000 ppl in the same pool queing for games in blitz kills any kind of chance to meet people in the game. just anonymous battles pretty much. so now as a blitz CL, i have to engage in "recruiting" first time in my life instead.

• the global chat disabled and 0 control over the servers. we owned the servers, not the game company. so toxicity was not an issue. also ppl knew other players by face so. another toxicity deterrent.

[noble yacht]

literally😂

[indigo swallow]

I don't get why he copied it considering he's the only one in the clan "there's no we"

[steady garnet]

Split personalities

[quick oxide]

But everybody is three people right ( me, myself and I ) / hides

[limpid pasture]

<@&481447501690568709>

[stray granite]

I've heard conflicting information. Do we have any official word on when the server merge is happening? It's going to have a heavy impact on clans.

[noble yew]

I haven't seen anything official on that, but I expect that we will have some advance notice when it does happen. The account credentials will need to be finished before then too.

[quick oxide]

The single realm identification system is only truly needed for when Reforged becomes official; so it can still be a while.

Give the issues for people to get their accounts linked or unlinked ... many needing help from support ... hopefully it is still a few months out.

And, given the game issues and bugs in test; plus some of the redesign work, I don't see Reforged coming sooner.

[stray granite]

Very well then. I was hoping the unification would happen before reforged was released so we would have less chaos to deal with all at once.

[quick oxide]

Maybe towards the later test runs, we'll hear more ... and can certainly ask some questions too.

[tough void]

So I’ve been leader of my clan for almost 4 years.

Although it seems player activity each week is falling - less battles and rewards points, we still week in week out have up to 50% (usually about 20%) of players doing little to nothing in clan rewards.

Curious to hear what y’all do to combat this and help get 100% clan rewards each week

[limpid pasture]

It’s the state of the game, this reforged update is killing a lot of people’s interest in the game, pretty sure all leads are noticing decreased activity.

[vast rapids]

@tough void We are having the same problem. This past week was our worst ever with only 18 players earning any Honors at all .
To combat it I work hard at fostering daily communication within the clan via our discord server, occasional clan competition and / or quests with gold for prizes. I also make myself available to platoon when ever I am on.
I'd like to note the the rewards WG offers should be boosted. It's a lot of time and effort to recieve so little. Level 10 reward should be 2k gold.

[quick oxide]

Except that level 10 reward of 2k gold x n players per clan becomes a boatload of gold

[midnight chasm]

Hello! The state of the game is in activity. We are wondering if there’s another like-minded clan out there they would like to join together for the good of having a clan that meets all rewards each week. We have about 15 to 20 active players. We are wondering if there’s another clan that has about the same. Pls DM me and f you might be interested. Out Clan is [MOST].

[gusty coral]

Guys, I know many good players that decided to leave this game after WG has announced trailer for update. That is the reason of bad online. People don’t want to play this game. Another reason is the incredible bad matchmaking system now. You play one day 90% wr and another - 30%. So people (not stupid) leave this game, search some better. I know how to find good online for clans - is to search 10 years children. This is future. But do you want it? I don’t

[vast rapids]

@quick oxide You are correct. Especially from WG point of view. Thousands of clans, millions of players world wide. Then mulitply that times 2k, every week. Definitely too much. Maybe a monthly reward for 37 levels earned. Or a "Gold week" once a month.
Gold is the tool that will motivate BOTH senior and junior players to be active each week.

[vast rapids]

@midnight chasm DM sent

[stray granite]

I track it and we are at 45 weeks in a row of 10 rewards, 73 weeks of 9+. But every week it seems to get a little harder. We're down to an average of 22 players contributing the required 35 honors per week, and about 27 contributing anything at all. It's an endless task kicking and replacing players and it has gotten much more difficult lately. Everyone is so bummed about reforged that many players have already left and the player pool seems to keep shrinking. I sent a new guy with 13 battles a clan invite last week and he said he had a bunch of clan invites and was trying to decide. 😲
I love Blitz and my clan mates, but my heart is breaking over this situation. 💔

[cedar sandal]

a lot of people get fed up of blitz and are quitting

[stray granite]

@vast rapids I also wanted to comment on your 2K gold comment above. 2K is too much, but I do believe WG should increase the 100 gold per week and the special 300 one.
350 gold weekly and 1000 on the special weeks might be more appropriate.
Increasing the clan weekly gold payout would:

• Increase mission focus (which keeps players playing and returning),
• Bring more attention to being in clans, which would
• Make players more social, which would
• Help attract and retain more players
  To me, it seems like a simple formula for making a significant improvement to WoTB.

[vast rapids]

@stray granite That would help quite a bit.

Good work. See how quickly it can get implemented.

[stray granite]

If I had the authority to do it, I would! 🍻

[vast rapids]

@stray granite You are hearby elected by the Blitz player base- granting you the authority!

[echo estuary]

I think Gold and some premium time at least 7-30 days

[limpid pasture]

We are kind of missing the point though, better weekly clan rewards is not going to fix everyone’s uncertainty and concern for reforged nor bring back a lot of those players that have left since news broke.

[hollow violet]

imo clans need something new, something juicy outside of clan mission rewards. sure, the active ppl who think "oh shoot more gold" will still get it, but it would hardly bring any semi active / semi clan focused ppl back. theres gotta be something that can tie ppl back into the clan. i, and prob other clan leaders have a core group of ppl who are involved and care about the clans success, but then theres the other 80% who dont gaf, imo we needa bring that 80% into the core 20%.

[limpid pasture]

One idea I’ve had for some time and discussed with a few of you in here is a ‘global domination’ territory based system on some kind of ‘world map’, you fight for new territories while fighting to defend your already established territories when challengers contest said territory. The clans with the most at the end of the ‘season’ would receive respective rewards, perhaps top 100 clans with the most territories. The rewards should also be quite enticing such as a special tank for the first place clan (something similar to being top 100 in current rating battles), custom graphics that the winning clans have some say in (logos, profile backgrounds, camos, ETC), and of course the usual currency rewards just with amounts that are worth the effort.

[echo gulch]

NA quite literally had this several years ago. ever heard of CWNA? @limpid pasture

[limpid pasture]

Not at all what I’m talking about, that was done by the community and there were no graphically appealing systems or aspects in-game. That’s cool and all but not what I’d like to see, I’d like something more interactive and less dependent on only the community.

[fickle glen]

sounds like a lot of work for WG and absolutely no profit earning for them to do so

cool but infeasible for that reason

like no doubt, an interactive world clan competition to fight for strategic areas on a map (similar to Risk, the board game) would be sick to play on. a combo of preparation and challenges grindable at any time and also scheduled tournaments would be awesome. but like i said earlier, this sounds like a ton of work from WG to create. first you have to brainstorm all of the logistics and prizes. then you need teams of artists and back end coders to create visuals inside the game and make them function properly. then you need legal department to ok the project. then you need to have team meetings about how to promote. then you need to collect feedback from closed groups or try a beta with some players. then after all that, it may be ready for launch. and what is WG going to get out of it? satisfaction that they improved a facet of the game, i suppose. satisfaction doesn’t keep the servers online nor does it keep the employees coming in

there are probably other steps i didn’t even consider

[shut minnow]

Sounds a lot like https://worldoftanks.eu/en/content/global_map_guide/clan/ to me

[limpid pasture]

They can always just rip the code from that and improve on it. 😉

[limpid pasture]

I know what you mean but at the same time I believe a lot of the current player base would prefer WG to focus their resources on something like that opposed to what they are doing now.. in regards to this reforged fiasco.

[grand totem]

hi is any clan who interested in cw today ( eu server)?

[quick oxide]

Clan recruitment ads are limited to the #clan-recruitment channel only, and have extra rules, that are posted in the pinned messages in that channel.
@unkempt oar

[stray granite]

😩 A guy in my clan quit the game last year.
🥳 He just came back to the game and rejoined the clan!
😲 He hasn't heard about Reforged!
🤫 Nobody in the clan tell him!!!! 💔

[limpid pasture]

I remember the days when #clan-search actually had people looking for a clan. 🗿

[simple kernel]

Crazy

[wary elk]

is there a bug or smth, people r randomly being kicked out of my clan but when i check their acc they're still in.
i did demote all of the deputies just to make sure but it still happenning

[indigo swallow]

Not happening in my Clan

[hollow violet]

not for me

[wary elk]

weird 🛌

[languid crow]

Not the first time I've heard something like this happen. Something similar happened to a clan of ours.

[tall quiver]

Are leaders transferable in a clan?

[hollow violet]

yes

[noble yew]

There has been a bug in the past where a player's clan status was not displayed properly. It appears to be temporary, and the status is correctly shown some time later. If it continues for too long, contact support.

[grave dove]

The clan member tab shows stats on each member, like #battles, clan mission medals and last time active or played. Activity in special modes like Big Boss is not recorded, so as clan leader, I don’t get a true picture of each players activity. I would like information on special mode battles instead of just going by clan mission medals. Anyone else have some tips to track activity?

[thorn pivot]

why need it? clan mission points show quite well how active someone is. last active doesnt show much

like someone with 300 battles per month could contribute less than someone with 150 battles to clan mission points if that person doesnt platoon much for example

[simple kernel]

Blitzstars, there are missions that require pubs or ratings so they will give u a feel. Also you could just ask and get to know that player.

[grave dove]

Thanks!

[wary elk]

mfw the weekly clan rewards finished by wednesday twice now 💀

[quick oxide]

😬 ... really?

[sterile gazelle]

The players stat screen in Reforged has placeholders showing fun mode battle counts so we should see that activity once it’s released.

[wary elk]

yuhs :3
people really wanted that 4 days off fr

[indigo swallow]

Not a bad idea 🤔

[cedar sandal]

normal people are getting the permanent days off blitz

[stray granite]

So we got an update to 11.8.0. Everyone is kicked and the clan does not even exist anymore! WHAT?!? 😡

Since I'm not in a clan I can search for a clan. I see it's still there [RTHUN]

[stray granite]

I can even send an application to join my clan! Now that's funny. 🤣

[stray granite]

We just had daily reset on the NA server and we still have missions and the clan still shows its weekly progress (same number as it was before reset), so I think from a mission and weekly progress perspective we are okay.

[alpine pelican]

I can't even log on tonight

[tough void]

Any chance of a ‘clan event’ again to stimulate player activity within clans? It’s like 60% of my clan is suddenly not playing anymore and it’s getting worse

[limpid pasture]

Welcome to WoTB after reforged.

It’s not just your clan, the game itself is dying unfortunately, and a lot of the damage is irreversible, damaged their reputation a lot, players don’t have faith in WarGaming staff, they’re disconnected and too focused on profits. It’s a shame really.

A clan event would be helpful to keep the remaining players engaged, I’d like to see that.

[vocal grail]

A clan event in this situation could cause the remaining active players to join a few activ clans, making the other clans even less active than they are now

[gusty coral]

Agree. And in an “active” clans you need to play +3000 battles per week🫢😂

[lament fractal]

Hello guys 👋
Can one leader from successful big clan tell me some tips about how to get more active members.
My clan is old like 1 year and it gets many members then it fell.
Pls dm me and tell me some tips

[tall quiver]

Put you clan into the #clan-recruitment, kick the players who have been away for more than a year, or 9 months, or 6 months, and start a discord so they can let you know if they'll be offline for a while or unable to play. Not (currently) a clan leader or from a big clan, but I hope you'll find this helpful

[cedar sandal]

like the last one? where some clans cheated the way to get the rewards?

[limpid pasture]

What are you on about? How does one cheat a clan event. 🤣

[worn glen]

rigged battles

[limpid pasture]

Rigged battles? Please go on, not following.

[worn glen]

Lots of people "count-in" to go into the same battle. The people on team A YOLO to make themselves easy kills for those on team B.

[limpid pasture]

Highly doubt this is an issue, I’ve never once encountered it.

[stray granite]

It was also widely known (WG staff even discussed in publicly) that people were account sharing and playing 24h a day. The IP could jump from one country to another and keep playing. It was completely against the EULA and a lot of people are still angry about the cheating. WG eventually gave in and gave them rewards despite the wide spread cheating.

[limpid pasture]

What do they have to gain from account sharing, if they want to break ToS and risk a ban then that’s on them? I’m really not understanding the big deal I guess.

[stray granite]

They did the cheating to win the clan event

(one particular event)

[limpid pasture]

How? Does sharing accounts give you some sort of extra advantage or do you mean that active people in the clan were playing on inactive peoples accounts to get more done for the event?

[stray granite]

Yes. They were also popping people in and out of the primary clan from their feeders. The one event where there was a lot of cheating pitted clan vs clan. Most of the clan events are just for internal rewards, but this one put them against each other.

Only the top clan got the biggest reward. Three top clans got something else. Top 10 got something else IIRC. But there was so much cheating, it was insane.

[limpid pasture]

Well I do prefer the clan versus clan element, I do still think it’s a minor issue and it can’t really be avoided (besides mass monitoring and banning those cheaters). I’d much rather see a clan event come back than see nothing at all. It’s basically how competitive play goes, players switch teams/clans all the time.

[stray granite]

No. Some clans had a person active who would replace players in the clan when they stopped playing, so they could keep the clan battling 24/7. It was far, far, far beyond the normal swapping of players. Anyway, there was a lot of cheating in that one particular event and I for one am still mad at WG for backing down and giving the rewards to the clans they caught actively cheating (breaking the EULA).

[limpid pasture]

I really don’t think it’s a big deal, I’d rather see another clan event, clans have been neglected lately. They can easily add some logic in the code where anyone that joined the clan in past 3-7 days will not he able to participate.

[echo gulch]

i didn't hear anything significant about account sharing. what i DID hear a lot about, only on EU really, was cycling clan members to keep games going 24/7 - which sounds like a complete nightmare, but not really breaking rules, and not really anything to be ashamed about

the biggest "cheating" concern was related to rigged battles, not account sharing

[limpid pasture]

I highly doubt that was even a major concern, this is the first time I've ever heard anything about it.

[echo gulch]

it was a pretty major concern, to the point where WG revoked the main reward of the event

[stray granite]

It was said by staff that someone would log off and instantly log back on in another country and keep going with an account 24/7. And that it was wide spread and not just on one team. It was infuriating.

[limpid pasture]

Interesting, but according to Pain they awarded it in the end?

[echo gulch]

it may have been mentioned, but it was by far a much smaller concern

[stray granite]

Eventually, they gave in and awarded those prizes. They reversed their decision. IMO: Too many of the top clans were cheating and they were going to lose too many of their top players, so they caved.

[echo gulch]

the statement is inaccurate. they did not.

[stray granite]

I wasn't on a top team, because we didn't cheat. So I wouldn't know. But they did announce that they ultimately decided to give the awards. The server exploded that day.

[limpid pasture]

Speaking of this event, when did it even take place? My memory is fuzzy on that, wasn't super active during it.

[echo gulch]

the main reward being a clan logo. my source on this is myself - my clan won the event on NA, and we have no clan logo

[limpid pasture]

That was the only reward? A custom clan logo?

[echo gulch]

that was the main reward. september 4-18, 2023

there were others, including a custom avatar, the Ritter, and some boxes, which were distributed as a compromise with the 9 leaders of the winning clans

[stray granite]

And the Ritter that year too. I had it from the previous event.

[limpid pasture]

I see, no wonder I don't have much of a memory of it, that was quite a while ago now, haven't their been other clan events since then, like the 50tp prototyp event?

[stray granite]

So, _34, you probably have anger about it too, from the other point of view.

If they didn't cheat, then why didn't they get the avatar.
If they did cheat, how can you declare them the winner.

[echo gulch]

there was a lot of built up anger from 2 weeks of slaving away, so clans were basically running smear campaigns on each other with every poor performance that could resemble cheating. so i think it was quite overblown. but nothing i can do about it

funny enough, the biggest cheating clans on NA at least, didn't even make top 3. so we got grouped together with behavior that was much worse than what we were accused of

[cedar sandal]

it was just on EU

and it was clearly visible on how many points the top 3 clans got more compared to the others from top 10, but yes, account sharing and rigging battles(suicide and next battle, i saw it in first person)

[tall quiver]

We could have a fix for this, of course: Only one hour of play time counts towards the rewards of the clan event, they can play for longer but only the specified period of time counts for the rewards.

And we lock clan membership on the day it begins

[cedar sandal]

i'd add different brackets for different Wrs of clans

but not just the avg wr, but the avg wr considering all players(so clans don't cheat putting a player with 200k battles and 30%wr in the clan)

cause a lot of clans don't evey try to partecipate to clan events because we all know that the usual 3/4 clans wins and cheats to win every single time

[worldly pecan]

gmail с маленькой буквы попробуй

[noble yew]

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[wanton steeple]

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[cerulean haven]

Спасибо)

[cerulean haven]

спасибо вам большое что попытались мне помочь и обратили внимание на мою ошибку, но серавно не получается зайти в игру

[wanton steeple]

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[noble yew]

Я отправил вам личное сообщение с немного большей информацией.

Пожалуйста, используйте здесь только английский язык

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Please only use English here.

[limpid pasture]

<@&481447501690568709>

[unkempt oar]

I need help guys, my Arabian members has left the game, I've just 10 active players now

My clan dropped from X level reward 2 V, I'm searching 4 active players but this didn't help.

[solemn crypt]

What even is your clan

[unkempt oar]

1Shot 2Kill

[cedar sandal]

the game is slowly dying, but if you don't require stats, you can try to recruit in game

[random idol]

I'm looking to ally with other clans on EU server, clan name is The Royal Welsh Regiment [TRWR]
if interested DM me

[lament fractal]

Hello
I need help about being leader of small clan.
I'm leader for like 1 year and I made another clan.
It have 15 skilled members
And it supply is lvl 2
Can someone from big clans tell me what and how could I get more skilled members with 1k+batlles.
Dm me :]

[visual rose]

Maybe offer them money or sth

[wanton steeple]

big_gunner123 has been warned.

[lament fractal]

Alr sorry

[cedar sandal]

time

[lament fractal]

Wdym "time"? @cedar sandal

[cedar sandal]

you need to wait that the opportunity comes, growing a clan isn't a speedrun

[wary elk]

omw to be burned out for a whole 3 months from recruiting for all of the new subclans i just made today

so new clan logo for anark :3
and i guess i could use these 3 for the subclans now instead of being unused

[vagrant acorn]

Hello finley

[wary elk]

getting specifically skilled players for a new clan is kind of difficult, best to focus on gaining casual members first to 50

[vagrant acorn]

Why SO MANY clans?

[wary elk]

then from there, gain connection with other clans, or even participate in tournaments n trainin, advertise it, and so on.
try to entice players with something, ex : anark advertise itself as a clan event based clan & finishing weekly rewards by Wednesday-friday

[wary elk]

to make our community bigger.
also the reason I'm recruiting newbies is so i could help them directly by platooning with them, or even simply giving info on how to play, n discourage the new players from being toxic.

even then it's not that many compared to other clan families like the former ICU clan n a couple others that I can't remember. they're from (insert tag)_A to Z

ah i remember, HHC is another that does that

either way, for the first part, I'm trying to shape the new blitz players to be more uh better both in how they play, and how they act.
not just telling them to "watch YouTube", but by also guide n hold their hand along the way in battles.
been doin this since 2023 so yea I'm used to it 🏃‍♂️

(definitely no ulterior motives too )

[fickle glen]

are you going to have active sub-leadership in all of those clans? not just an alt account of yours holding the leadership, actual leaders that report to you and have some level of autonomy to run their clan and appoint deputies. not having a strong leadership core in each clan will prevent clan culture from fostering and being unique from clan to clan

[wary elk]

yep, there'll be active sub leadership after a certain point, and even implement bottom-up democracy n consensus just like our main clan & 2 other clans if possible, so that there'll be no "permanent leader" in a way, more of delegations of deputies n leaders that can be recallable and have a limit on stuff. ex : 2 months before picking another, this way it build trust, activity, and so on

n ye both discord n blitz kind of built around hierarchical n top down so ik it'll be somewhat difficult for smth like this, but so far it's been working fairly well.

[wary elk]

clan event when tho
that is based around platoon and activity instead of like clan tournament challenge for the custom logo, cuz it'll just be the same people again n again

[lament fractal]

Yeah I already have 16 members and we're focusing on clan supply now so close to lvl 3

[limpid pasture]

Personally don't see any reason to make that many clans, it's just breaking up the cohesion of your community. Do you even have one clan fully filled?

[wary elk]

too much members that we have to do rotation every 1-4 days depending on the week.

i just realized it's been over 10 years

[simple kernel]

Bruh as a full chart of his community 💀

[wary elk]

still gotta document the history somehow even if it's only from my perspective 🤷‍♀️

[fickle glen]

simplified??

man ive been in the same clan since 2018. founded as one of the earliest in 2015

there’s been a lot of crazies that have been in my clan, the merging of comp teams from other teams, and we don’t have anything resembling this

[wary elk]

lmao 😭

but yea the blitz stuff starts around Elysium, before that it's other games.
then merged with PRET, NXS, and TQPT.
pret was it's own thing n started around 2016 n slowly dwindled around 2024 so yeag

[cedar sandal]

why there's an Entity relations diagram for a community

[limpid pasture]

To over complicate things it would seem.

[twin hull]

NA clan communities are wild

having 3 clans each and still managing them is wild

[orchid knoll]

why is there nazi in the top right 💀

[noble yew]

That appears to be an old clan that no longer exists.

There's zero tolerance for anything like that in game and here.

[wary elk]

the stuff before ELY/Elysium was when we haven't played blitz yet soo yeah 🗿

[noble yew]

Editing that chart to blank out that name would be a good idea. It doesn’t belong here.

[magic field]

This is my brain... but way worse

[wary elk]

maybe useful for some new clan leads

[wary elk]

true, either way. deleted it since people paid too much attention to that instead of other things since it's kinda off topic

[cedar sandal]

depends on the clan you have, but can work

[noble yew]

Публікуйте оголошення клану лише в #clan-recruitment . Дивіться моє повідомлення в цьому каналі.

(post in proper channel, see message there)

[limpid pasture]

<@&481447501690568709>

[limpid pasture]

<@&481447501690568709> They're getting creative with the link bypass scams.

[limpid pasture]

<@&481447501690568709>

[cedar sandal]

<@&481447501690568709> Get this out of my clan leadership chat 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

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[stray granite]

Clan event starting July 7th. Yay, we can pack the clans full again with active Blitz players!

I've had so many clan members quit the game permanently after seeing where the game is headed with Reforged. It has been a lot harder recently to keep finding replacements too. 💔 😩

[cedar sandal]

even without reforged lots of vet players are quitting for the heavy monetization of the game, sad

[random idol]

I'm probably not going to play the game after the update and slowly moving away now, I'm only going back to moderate my clan

[placid cargo]

I’m the leader of my clan and I find it hard to even play with my legally blindness because IRL I am legally blind, but I still have fun playing at the same time and being a leader is even more hard, but finding people to play with and be friends with without judgment is even harder

[harsh locust]

I still dont understand ,even if it is heavily monetize even then what's the downside ?

[tiny shell]

Yo, I'd like to reach out to chat *with the Clan Leadership of -Kraken. Not particularly urgent.

[noble yew]

I suggest dm'ing them in game, if you haven't already tried that. Select the clan tab on the left, the search icon at the top and enter their clan tag.

[tiny shell]

I did, no response so far

[random idol]

Does anyone know when clans will be back up on EU server

[crude sundial]

I started up a clan a few months ago but I'm having trouble gaining/retaining members. What can I do to gain and keep members?

[stray granite]

Things have been different this year (since reforged), but classically, here are some tips. If you were a competition guy making a competition clan this will not work, but if that were the case, you also would not be asking the question.

You need to be constantly recruiting. Do paperwork and keep track of your members closely. Whatever your metrics are, you need to record them every week. When someone isn't living up to their responsibilities (typically they go inactive), you need to kick and replace them. It's up to you and your clan rules to decide how long you let them under perform before you kick them.

A year ago, finding new players was easy. You may have 20+ people per day to choose from on #clan-search. Today, in NA we get about 1 per week for all the clan recruiters to fight over (except during the clan challenge of course!). One place you can tap for new members with a new clan is low tiers. Get together with your clan mates and find someone to help you with recruiting. Don't be shy and play low tier - I'm talking tiers 1-4. Find players with no clan and invite them.

Put together a clan advertisement and try to stress what sets your clan apart from others. Make sure it looks inviting and says whatever would attract YOU to your clan if you were looking. And then, every 168 hours, be sure to put that ad out there in #clan-recruitment.

As you build your clan, be sure to delegate. And you or someone in your clan needs to be endlessly recruiting, because the cycle never ever ends. Good luck.

I meant to mention... Setup a clan Discord server. Of the people looking for a clan, I find most of them are looking for and expecting it. Having a good Discord presence also says a great deal about the stability of the clan and its management.

[crude sundial]

ok thank you very much! 👍

[noble ermine]

Can I switch off members deletion by deputy leaders?

[echo gulch]

no, your clan doesn't have any permissions settings in that regard. deputies can kick members, and the only way to turn that off is to remove the deputy role

[stray granite]

Take a look at our clan wish list. It's pinned on this channel. The 2nd point is a generalization of what you're looking for. More granularity in leadership role permissions. We've been asking for a long time.

[cedar sandal]

sadly this game after 10 years couldn't implement new roles inside the clan....

[noble ermine]

Yeah, that's a MUST, the need to fix that option of allowing deputy leaders dismiss clan members without consulting the clan leader first.

Have WoT blitz thought of improving clan promotion (ranks, roles, high rank responsibilities) for the new version?

[cedar sandal]

they won't, too busy calling players animals and selling tanks for 400 euros

[tranquil musk]

tell them they get clan rewards, easy

[tranquil musk]

things are different for APAC servers, many dont use discord so inviting clanless people from right off the ingame battles is the best, regardless of the tier

[orchid knoll]

theres a problem in a clan im leading , which is the deputies just not doing anything in general. this has been going on for about a month now, and i dont have connections to other people that know how to lead a clan. can anyone give some advice or perhaps help directly? im new to clanleading myself but this is a problem i just cant get around and find a fix to.

[cedar sandal]

for deputies you should put only people you trust and know what they need to do something

if not, it means your clan isn't ready yet for a deputy, you could train one, but it takes time and trust, it's easier that, if you don't have someone ready to be one, to be the only one as deputy/leader

tho really depends what a "deputy" has to do in the clan, every clan has their own "deputy" with different tasks and powers

[forest oriole]

Easy. Leave yourself. If anyone isn't helping, then why should you continue leading? Or just apply new ones. ( Doubt they will aswell. ) Best is to get already experienced leaders to help or just leave

[stray granite]

If you had players join your clan for the clan event, right now is a good time to try to retain those players (some join for the event and leave as soon as it's over). Send out a message on your clan Discord and in the game chat or as DMs. Here is what I sent, feel free to copy, edit, or use for inspiration to create your own:

Righteous Thunder had a GREAT clan challenge! Thank you very much to all who participated. I hope you all received the M46 Jaguar without spending any gold. To those of you who joined RTHUN for the event, you guys have all been great and fit in well. We hope you enjoyed the last 3 week here and hope you will consider staying and continue enjoying your time in this tanking family.

[forest cave]

does annyone have any advice on how to grow a clan

[noble yew]

@tropic rune Really very clever but a duplicate from #clan-search, which is where it belongs.

[stray granite]

I posted this just a few days ago, which might help:
#clan-leadership message

[dark finch]

@twin crater

[modern crest]

I posted this is wrong chat, but have a question for leaders. What is your criteria for kicking players to keep active players. I am seeing many players go inactive so am booting them if they haven’t played in last 2 months. It was 6 months then 3 now I’m down to 2. Any tricks to keep players active? I try to keep it entertaining, even adding some tank trivia.

[stray granite]

So to answer your two Qs:

1. How long is going to vary a great deal from clan to clan. For us, it's about 6 weeks of being below our minimum contribution threshold of 35 honors/points. You just have to find what works for your clan, with your rules, for your metrics.
2. Anything you can do to make your clan more attractive for players to want to hang out will encourage participation. Using your discord server for trivia, count-ins, voice chats, etc can help promote community and activity. But ultimately, you can only do so much and you cannot make people play. So do your best, but don't be discouraged by all the people leaving the game.

[modern crest]

Thanks, this helps

[wary elk]

it's usually depends how active my clan is, but usually around 2-3 weeks(only a few days during clan event) & give them a few days notice before actually kicking them.

[cinder comet]

I'm going to transfer my clan anyone interested? EU

[remote flame]

<@&481447501690568709>

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[cedar sandal]

me

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[orchid knoll]

<@&481447501690568709>

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[quick oxide]

Dyno is not removing the messages yet ... 🤔

[noble yew]

It's been missing some. 🙄

[unkempt oar]

Anybody knows what's going on with clan's? I can't C my clan & its missions from yesterday!

[orchid knoll]

its a bug

[unkempt oar]

Y does this bug's always happening? Y does WG won't fix anything on clan's?

[indigo swallow]

<@&481447501690568709>

[past scroll]

?

[indigo swallow]

There was spam scam

[past scroll]

ok

[stray granite]

Do any of you guys do friendly inside-your-clan competitions? What reward do you give?

Here's my idea. I pick a tank and that week anyone in the clan can play it in any mode and post their Victory screen in a clan channel. At the end of the week whoever has the most <whatever> wins the competition for that week. In the prescribed tank, maybe it's most damage, most Ks, most damage blocked, etc. Could be fun I think. I'm open and appreciative of other suggestions for in-clan competitions too.

But what reward? Bragging rights for the week, sure. A special role for the week so they show up differently? We have awards by our names, so I could put a special award for the next week. But do you guys have any other ideas or suggestions how to celebrate the weekly winner?

[past scroll]

This is for your clan?

@wide fossil dm pls

[simple kernel]

In my experience from what I have seen, the in clan competitions only attract certain groups of people but the other 75% just see it as extra work. Everyone that i have see dies eventually. People lose interest or leads lose interest in maintaining it if it is only the same people every week or they get busy doing other stuff. That being said it would be fun for a some people.

[stray granite]

For my clan(s) yes, but any clan who could benefit from more engagement would be welcome to use the ideas.

[past scroll]

ok, I don't have any ideas

[stray granite]

I see your point, but I was trying to not make it extra work. We always get 10 clan rewards. So why not play a specific tank while you're doing your clan missions anyway and we'll see who can do the most damage, kills, blocked damage, etc. That's my thought anyway.

[simple kernel]

I dont know how you can make something happen without more work. With blitz having little api to send input to discord. You would have to do it by hand. That being said Sigyn did it by the month for role changes mostly. Sigyn also had the weekly 100 club which mostly remained the same for a couple weeks then slowly changed over time as people lost interest or got busy. The RA runs a special role based on stats you can maintain for certain amount of time. The players provide the proof if they want it so it would only require a lead to add a role now and then. You could also do roles based on special events. Sigyn did the Summer Bash tier 8 tourny and a 3v3 which special exclusive 1 time roles were provided. Just some examples for you but mind you running different things takes time even if it is a bit here and there, it adds up. The coolness of roles wears off over time. That being said my team won the 3v3 sigyn tourny and it wasn't an easy win so getting a role was a nice reward along with a small cash prize. That is another piece I have seen. Depending on your lead team and maybe clan. Crowd fund small cash/gold prizes for in clan events. The blitz gift system provides a nice opportunity. It be nice to have a deputy who organized in clan events not counting blitz hosted tournies but that is an ideal which most if not all clans cant spare do to leads available.

[simple kernel]

My argument for this is that missions and BP already require specific characteristics and it gets tiring having to play to those requirements. That being said if you require tanks that are fun but rarely get played it would at least fix the enjoyment factor of playing same tanks. You might also consider that not everyone has "blank" tank.

Hope i am not damping your ideas. Just sharing my thoughts. If you can get a active participation for events it would give your clan an edge as I dont knoe of any others doing such things. Sigyn did but is now disbanded

[stray granite]

I very much appreciate your input and taking the time to think it out and type it up.

Funny you mention the 100 club. You can scroll back to who gave Copenhagen the idea here: #clan-leadership message

Wow, I can't believe that was 2 1/2 year ago! 🤯

[spiral yacht]

A minute of silence for the people who got banned

[past scroll]

<@&481447501690568709> it's in #clan-recruitment (i can't write in it anymore, so i'm doing it there, sorry)

[simple kernel]

That is kinda crazy

[past scroll]

<@&481447501690568709> ban him pls

[shut igloo]

Trying to add a wotbot to discord channel. invite worked, but when I try to get stats, I get the following (looks like its using discord handle instead of game handle, but I can't find how to change on dashboard....)

[stray granite]

Maybe you didn't give it the IGN? Here is the pin I made years ago on wotbot on our server:

(note that last part)

[karmic iris]

Hello, i tryied few times send advert in clan-recruitment in last 2 years and only 1 person join clan from discord, so how you finding new active players? Only way i see is spam clan invite to ppls after battle. If some1 have better idea pls let me know. 👍

[past scroll]

#clan-search just look here

[visual rose]

Spam clan invite after battle

[past scroll]

<@&481447501690568709>

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[past scroll]

thx

[charred mauve]

Morning

[fringe nimbus]

I'm not a clan leader but simply a private in my fourth clan in less than a year. If you have no requirements like 50% win rate or better, then what do you have to offer to the new players? I left my previous clans for all kinds of valid reasons: Dead! - no activity except for 3 players and I was one of the 3. No help with clan missions from the leaders or deputies. Using all the new members like myself to fulfill the clan missions but the veterans in the clans would never platoon with us and just used us to get to tier 10 weekly clan missions and the new members would just platoon with each other. No training in how to get better at the game. No training in how to get better in rating battles. No quick tournaments to improve team play organization. I'm not a good player but I'm trying and no one in the clans has ever helped me but I still continue to try to improve. There was one member who said that the clan needed to raise the bar for entry for something like 55% win rate yet that person who is really good didn't do much in terms of fulfilling clan missions while I was always top 5 if not top 3 in fulfilling weekly clan missions. That person left and started his own clan and I'm glad he left with his best friend and they are only two in their clan but in terms of fulfilling clan missions, I think they'll have a tough time getting good weekly rewards but I don't care about them. So if you've got something good to offer the players, I'm sure they'll join your clan. You want players to fulfill clan missions but what do you as the clan leader offer in return?

[past scroll]

I play about 20 platoon battles a week, and that's with any player in my clan. I don't know which clan you were in, but they don't have team spirit and that's a huge weakness.

[visual rose]

The 2 most important things in a clan are 1. The people (cool dudes) and 2. A cool clantag + name.

[karmic iris]

I have best clanname and tag, but cool dudes i find one in 2 or 3 years of playing

And to cmdr_cane u ask what clan leader can offer so i was giving premium 30days to ppls and sometime battlepass not for all ofc, one day they find clan which had tanks giveaways to top players and they leave after asking if i give them more, so i offer now just cool clan name and platoons only

[visual rose]

What is ur clanname and tag?

[karmic iris]

Earthquake Force EQ-FC

[visual rose]

No not cool

Try Lux Novum [-LXN-]

[karmic iris]

my is cool but not for e-sport ppls

[visual rose]

EQ FC sounds like a football team

[stray granite]

I read every word. As a clan leader, I'm digesting what you said. Sometimes it's hard to think of "the other side" of things. Thanks for posting that.

[visual rose]

Must be pain and suffering

[fringe nimbus]

Well sorry it didn’t work out for you. They just took ur generosity and gave nothing in return

[scenic pebble]

There are like 1000 clans out there. choose one that aligns with your views.

Have a clan. I don't give a rat's behind* about clan missions and points. Just want players around my own level who play T10 and sometimes like to do it together with voicecom, not for missions but for fun, quick tourney or platoons. That's in clan bio as well so. If someone joins but is stressed about not getting 10/10 clan rewards then they chose to join a wrong clan. They should read bio and relax or find a better one. What can I do... :)

[scenic pebble]

oops, was meant as reply to this story

In a year of this clan existence there has been one guy stressed about clan rewards so far. He asked others to complete more missions. I asked him to relax about the missions. If he wants to do missions, fine, no problem but shouldn't push others.

I like members playing because they enjoy playing a battle not because clan rewards FOMO or someone else forcing them to play. I've stated that in bio and VC. So it's pretty clear. Maybe different from 90% of clans that have been created to chase the missions but I don't get the point of it. So I made a different one.

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[stray granite]

It's totally fine and great for your clan to do that, so I'm not criticizing at all. The reason some clans work to get 10 rewards is because it

• gives a common goal
• promotes community
• promotes platooning among the clan
• promotes activity
  Some weeks are like "are we going to make it?" and there's a frenzy of activity. Other weeks, it's like, "hey we already got it, let's go have some fun!" So, while I don't look down on you guys at all, for many, those clan missions are a great thing. Plus, when you look at #clan-search most players are looking for an active clan, while some are looking for competition clans. For the people looking for active clans, there is no better way to say "we are active" than by showing how you get those 10 rewards every week. Every clan is different, and I salute you for clearly stating your mission and seeking like minded players.

[scenic pebble]

Yeah, likeminded is the key. Although I feel missions mostly promote WG's goal which is player retention. I come from times when clans were tight social groups. Last clans I had before I've hung out with members countless times etc. I miss that. Also management was a breeze (no recruiting needed). There were no outside "incentives" like these missions in the games those times either. In the blitz clan I've never even met a single member, don't even know names of some. I guess advances in networking/internet tech play a part too in this. But not like I could set up a local server here where local players could meet as WG hasn't released server binaries nor would show my server at the top of the list... Training room isn't the same.

[visual rose]

I never participated for lvl 10 clan missions

[true knot]

55% should be minium winrate to join a clan. 50-54,99% should have at least 10k battles. It is horrible to be same team with 4x% plattoon... I have no idea what they learn from each other when they cant even see an enermy right next to them

[visual rose]

@true knot you play on apac

[true knot]

Yeah just few month after the game release to 2023, I just start playing again few days ago in NA...

[hollow violet]

now i see where these absurd takes are coming from 💀

[latent moth]

Hey guys I'm a clan leader from 23AR, I am wondering if I may post a Halloween party invitation for my discord server

[noble yew]

No, as has been explained elsewhere.

[visual rose]

Hey guys I'm a clan leader from FANOL, I am wondering if I may post a Halloween party invitation for my discord server

[wheat cairn]

Hey guys I'm a clan leader from RTRDS, I am wondering if I may post a Halloween party invitation for my discord server

[noble yew]

@wheat cairn @visual rose Links to other servers are prohibited by the server rules. Here's what is allowed in #clan-recruitment :

"❗ " live " clickable links to other servers, services or apps are NOT allowed. 👈
Only use the " server code "
Discord example = https :// discord.gg / LeTTeRS => so just use the " LeTTeRS "
Same for other services.
Or simply have the link in your Discord profile."

Many clans also have their Discord links posted in their ingame clan description or have a discord server tag as part of their display name here.

[wheat cairn]

Hey guys I'm a clan leader from RTRDS, I am wondering if I may post a Halloween party invitation for my discord server

[noble yew]

I saw your post the first time and responded to it.

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[past scroll]

I'm the leader of GLX-2, GLX-3, deputy of 1RTA, creator of P_-P, M-_P, RETEZ and a lot of clan, and just do what you want (and don't spam)

[latent moth]

Morning guys

[past scroll]

?

[noble ermine]

Hello everyone,

It'd be great if clan leaders could deliver the weekly clan rewards only to those who actively platooned to get them. Is it included in the new version of the game?

[noble yew]

I don't believe that giving additional rewards for platooning has been addressed in Reforged so far.

Another way for you to bring that concern to Wargaming's attention is by posting it in one of the Reforged channels. Visit id:customize and give yourself the Ultra Tester role. It will open additional channels where WG looks for suggestions and feedback on improvements to Reforged.

[noble ermine]

Not additional, but the actual weekly clan rewards

How do I give myself a role?

[noble yew]

Akk! I meant id:customize go the roles tab in that channel.

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[hollow violet]

No

[orchid knoll]

[quick oxide]

No clan hiring ads, however short, in this channel.

[orchid knoll]

So why is this channel for?

Develop community I read

[quick oxide]

Community, sure. And various questions and idea sharing like how other people do ceetain things with their clan, or suggestions to WG on how to add more clan features, events, etc .

When you post, hi I am the clan lead for [clan] and am looking for these kinds of players ... it does end up looking a bit like a small advert line. It was not a practical idea, or question type thing.

[orchid knoll]

Like if I want to say I have a syndicate in my clan to choose who can’t stay in the clan and who can

Or some things like if they do some plats,tournaments,RVR,…

[quick oxide]

Correct, clan (re)organization would be part of this

[orchid knoll]

Cool

So here we can ask for everything about clan leaders and their acts with their clans, right ?

[quick oxide]

Totally.

[orchid knoll]

Thanks Bruxelles man

[charred mauve]

Hello!

[orchid knoll]

Hi

[random idol]

Hey how is everyone?

[wheat cairn]

Terrible!

[scenic pebble]

suggestions? yeah, right, but ok.

1. clan rewards are like a deadly disease. pls remove them or reallocate them to somewhere else unrleated to clans
2. clan stats summary is also like a deadly disease. remove
3. offer leagues and more divisions in cups for clans to fight in (to replace the above 2 with something meaningful)
4. improve league / cup rewards

[quick oxide]

Please use appropriate language to describe something, instead of a deadly disease that has taken so many friends and family away from us.

[scenic pebble]

updated

[quick oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-cat-upset-annoyed-perturbed-gif-2678264647403754706

You have to be kidding ...

[scenic pebble]

well i've had both in games. Blitz now and what I suggested above. the above was 10 times better :)

[quick oxide]

Clan rewards are there to help motivate clan players to work together, just by playing the game; without being into competition

[scenic pebble]

this is artificial. Before these methods were induced by the industry, clans used to form naturally. People who wanted to play together, played together. And clans were formed out of friendships and to compete with other clans.

[quick oxide]

So, why would extra rewards for being engaged in a clan, and getting some rewards be a bad thing?

[scenic pebble]

real fun times, sorry you were born too late. but other hand being young is a win as well so it's ok.

[quick oxide]

Let alone that clan rewards are so bad, you equate it to " C ... "

And, I was " born too late " ???
Except I was in the game before clans existed.

[scenic pebble]

"something is C....". it's just an expression the kids use these days, relax.

A long time ago when grass was greener there were no rewards at all, or not such unrelated/unconnected to the gameplay itself as in Blitz. game companies tried to make games (gameplay, content itself, not events/rewards/gambling) the best possible.

[quick oxide]

And, as the game is aging and some players play less, or sunset; I would say that clan rewards are a bit of glue that keeps people motivated.

[scenic pebble]

when? clans existed in 90s already... maybe earlier. well. good for you. In this case, how have you been converted/braniwashed into this modern dystopia of the current state of gaming industry then?

[quick oxide]

I think there is a bit too much negativity in general and aimed my way ...
Things could be better on the competitive side.
I don't think stripping away rewards and leaderboard would help clans.

[scenic pebble]

well, the comp scene and the whole clan thing is completely dead in this game or at least it's nothing like clans used to be. i've never seen this before, blitz the first/only game i've played after 90s to 2006. yeah, i had played games "seriously" couple of decades ago when none of this existed -- no in-game clan support, no rewards. but almost everyone who played any online game was in a clan and playing clanwars/cups/leagues on regular basis. with NO rewards, NO in-game support for clans (you just changed your nick and added clan tag in it).

this rewards and stats system is only a psychological trick to keep players playing. fomo stuff. just business :). imho.

so i'd say it would help the game for the scene. not for WG.

there were rewards ofc. LAN and internet cup top finishers etc obv had prizes. and as ridicilous it sounds, those were better 25y ago than in blitz at the moment. that i find really strange as this game has massive playerbase (compared to those times)

literally hundreds of htousands of ppl play it but... almost no or very small real money prizes. wth.

like, what would motivate average kid playing blitz, €10k cash vs bunch of tanks and tons of gold etc? I was no pro, very far from it, but i got mostly top GFX cards etc in tourneys as prizes. Never ever any "in-game rewards" :). but bigger fish got cash up to 5 figures

[gusty coral]

Clan rewards must be in the game. But higher than we have now. New players need this. Would be better if X stage clan missions has at least more value than now

[wary elk]

ehh imo it's ok as is, maybe give something more for platooning with a clanmate instead? 🤔 and maybe something that the whole clan can grind on after reaching lvl 10 supply that aren't as competitive like tournaments(considering that the winners are mostly the same players in diff clans).

something to fill the gap between clan-events that comes around every year.

[mint trail]

I mean removing the first two would be more of a negative for the average player but 🤷‍♂️

[static delta]

A league system would be cool

[wary elk]

idk if it's just me but recruiting members on NA seems to be much harder compared to APAC & EU

[past scroll]

Ye xd

[hollow violet]

less ppl on na

[wary elk]

ehh it's not that, even clanless players that i send invite to after a game almost never accepted it

[visual rose]

Maybe write them a message

[wary elk]

ye i did 🛌 wouldn't have asked here if i didn't try alot of things lol

[hollow violet]

people just don’t check dms on na for some reason

[visual rose]

I can help you

[stray granite]

The clan tools are so broken. I show someone has applied to my clan for many days. AFAICT they joined another clan. But it doesn't matter if I ignore, click ❌ or ✅ they go away and come right back. Every time I log in it shows they have applied again. Pathetic.

Clan leaders - if your weekly performance metrics include # of platoons, just realize that, the platoons column is often wrong. It seemed to be wrong, so In an alt I tracked my play this last week. I platooned 10 times in the alt but the clan summary shows 3 platoons for that account. This from a game whose entire game play is based on math. 🙄

[cedar sandal]

fixing the game ❌, selling the Wt auf e100 ✅

[twin hull]

meanwhike my friend

[vast rapids]

@stray granite we are having clan members removed by WG. I'm the clan leader and it removed me!
One gal lost her earned Honors, thusly the clan lost her Honors too . But when she re-applied and was brought back in-she did not get a new set of clan missions.
When I promote someone to Deputy it sends a message to all clan members that THEY were promoted.
The joined, left and removed indicators do not register all member movement - only some.

[noble yew]

The notifications of every member when anyone is promoted or demoted is a bug that has been around for a long time. It's gotten embarrassing when someone posts in chat that they accept a promotion they didn't get.

I also see some delays in showing clan membership. Our client's most likely need to pull that data from an api and possibly from a server set up for clan stuff. That should just be a problem with updating our displays, and our actual clan status on the server shouldn't change.

With the gal that lost her honors and didn't get new missions, did that happen on a Sunday? There a separate bug that finishes some player's missions on Sunday instead of Monday morning. Afaik, the clan gets credit for the missions they have completed but they loose the chance to finish any uncompleted ones. They get new missions with everyone else on Monday morning.

The mission bug is another one that has been around for a long time. For some reason it only happens to one person in my clan. He's cursed, I guess.

[vast rapids]

@noble yew For the gal it was a Friday. I don't recall what day of the week it was when it happened to me but Im sure it wasn't a Sunday.
That separate bug has been embraced by our clan! We call it the "Sunday Glitch ". Players are encouraged to be "well positioned " ( have the weekly missions completed) by Saturday in case they are hit with it. Then we platoon like crazy with that player on Sunday to finish their Glitch weekly's to scored earned Honors above the 160 possible. We have beat the 160 mark several times in the past year. 😀

[noble yew]

If it happens again on a Friday have her immediately send in a ticket. I'd also like to hear about it from her then. My clan has adjusted to an occasional Sunday glitch too, but Friday is entirely too weird.

[vast rapids]

@noble yew Roger. I'll have her contact you.
Dm headed your way momentarily.

[mellow trellis]

whats his ign

[noble yew]

If he dm's me I'll take a look at his situation and give him what information and help I can. Ask him to send me screenshots of his communications with support; that will speed things up. When he lost the account, when he contacted support about it and the location originally shown will also be needed.

[olive chasm]

What can you do if the leader in your clan doesn't play and therefore doesn't lead?

[remote flame]

nothing

[olive chasm]

@remote flame Thanks, then I guess I'll have to change clans.

[noble yew]

When that happened in my clan we contacted support and were told that when the clan leader had been inactive for 6 months support would appoint a new clan leader. One of the deputies was leading the effort and was promoted by support.

I don't know if that was a one time deal, but if you have a good core group it could be worth asking support.

[olive chasm]

@noble yew Thank you very much for providing a possible solution.

[ruby berry]

@noble yew thank again for all your help!!! I hope I wont need you again!!!

[noble yew]

Glad to do it. Credit also goes to Binu and an unknown support staff person for cutting through all the confusion and getting things back on track.

[olive chasm]

@noble yew Thank you, I contacted Support and they changed the Clan Leader.

[noble yew]

I love it when a plan works! Thanks for letting me know.

[wary elk]

is my clan bricked now??

how do i even send a ticket about this 😭

[wary elk]

oh it seems to be fixed by itself 🙏 (would've been interesting to see how my deputies manage it by themselves as an experiment 😭)

hmm now that i think about it. what if there's a way for deputies to promote 1 of them into leadership/demote a clan lead if they've been inactive for too long/banned? that would be a nice feature. like if 90-100% of the deputies agreed to it it passes. but the one being chosen cannot vote on the decision making

[olive chasm]

@wary elk I contacted Support and they changed the Clan Leader.

[wary elk]

ah tysm, I would've waited till tomorrow hoping that it'll fix itself🙏😭

[vast rapids]

@olive chasm 🫡

[wary elk]

aw hel naw is gon again, it's now leaderless hahaha 😭

i wonder if it's something to do with reforged ultratest server maybe being hosted(or atleast the database is) on the same one or something like that? since when I'm testing I'm in a different clan still.

[noble yew]

I suppose it might take the clan server some time to update things but if this one doesn't fix itself you definitely can contact support (as Finley) to ask for their help.

[olive chasm]

@wary elk Ask Support for help if the problem is not fixed.

[wary elk]

yea

[wary elk]

done 🫡

[vast rapids]

El_Din_46 [NA], dm

[plush kiln]

@drowsy kelp You are free to recruit and post clan ads in #clan-recruitment and include a Spanish version of your message as well, but you have to include an English version first.
I may not be the owner of the server, but we moderators enforce the rules set by the owners. Please check #rules again and pay attention to the second sentence at the top.

Check this message for example: #clan-recruitment message

[drowsy kelp]

Okay

So, according to the rules, can I speak in English and use the Spanish version?

[plush kiln]

Best example would be this message.
You have to include both versions of your clan-ad in one message and the English version has to be first.

[drowsy kelp]

Okay, I'll do it that way, but can I clarify that it's only for Spanish speakers, or is that not possible?

[plush kiln]

Whom you recruit is up to you. If you only want people who can speak Spanish, you're free to include that request in your message.

[drowsy kelp]

Okay, I'll ignore their absurd rules. Have a nice day.

[plush kiln]

Fair warning though: I've warned you about this twice now.
If you continue to post clan-ads without an English version of the text included in the message, we basically have to take measures.
We can't make any exceptions to the rules, otherwise we'd have to do that for everyone, which just does not work.

[drowsy kelp]

I was simply asking you to do this properly, and I said that the rule seems absurd to me, that's all. I already wrote down a message with an English version; if you want, I can send it to you and you can tell me if I should modify it. Anything else, or is this okay? I'm trying to create a recruitment message with an English version at the beginning and then a Spanish version, which is how you told me to do it.

[plush kiln]

That's completely fine, but your last message suggested otherwise.
"I'll ignore their absurd rules" and complaining about the rules are two different things for me.

That being said, you're more than welcome to send me your clan-ad via DM so I can take a look at it.

[drowsy kelp]

It's because of the translator; many times I write something and in English it says something else. That's why this rule is wrong, since many times the translator won't accurately reflect what I wrote, and I could get penalized for it.translator 😐

[plush kiln]

Might be down to the translator you're using 🤔
I can recommend DeepL for any sort of translation, it's generally pretty reliable and accurate.
https://www.deepl.com/es/translator

[drowsy kelp]

I don't know how they expect me to speak a language I don't know without a translator, so I maintain my position that this rule is wrong.
I'm going to follow it to the letter because it's in the regulations, but it's a very absurd rule that can lead to a lot of misunderstandings.

[quick oxide]

You can write your advert in spanish, use google translate or similar and it should be 99% ok

Before bi-lingual adverts were allowed it was English only. The concession is, as this is still a global server, put English text first.

[drowsy kelp]

I understand that and accept my mistake; the problem is that I'm being challenged because of a misunderstanding by the translator.
I said I was going to follow the rule as stated, and the translator said the opposite. 😐

[quick oxide]

Woops, I get it now! 🤝

[latent moth]

@drowsy kelp yeah it's pretty challenging to use a translator! In fact I have a translator bot in my server for help!

[vast rapids]

Anyone else having a problem with Blitzstars not loading?

[pastel crater]

Yep 👍

Although it’s been in and out recently, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.

[vast rapids]

@pastel crater

I found the notification: out-of-service.

[wary elk]

decided to close down some of the subclans because it's getting harder to recruit members lately on apac 🛌

[visual rose]

@wary elk The 5 total players u have an Apac lol u all know each other personally

[wary elk]

huh? 🤔

[stray granite]

Recruiting has been tough on NA as well. One of my recruiters has been having good success recently by posting ads on Reddit instead of #clan-recruitment here.

[visual rose]

Recruiting is hard because WG removed the global chat/different language chats in the garage. These were the main way to get in touch with players and they removed it. What can we see with the removal? A lot of clans die out. Back in the days alone the german community had like hundreds of clans with 50 players and very active. Now. Activity is rock bottom - basically half of the clan inactive. New players? Be happy if u see 1 new player a month in the german sector it is 99% old players writing. There are no new players who like ask yo this or that. Nothing. Zero.

[rich willow]

Can confirm, I used the global chat for recruiting purposes in addition to the other methods, was quite effective.

[wary elk]

indeed

[bleak glen]

Yeah its quite sad. Meanwhile on the concurrent server (lesta) it still exists even global chat in regular battles, or training rooms. Why cant WG do this?

[visual rose]

For real so unfair

[latent moth]

I know right

[fickle glen]

because they only support 1 langauge (Russian) so the moderation is much easier

[visual rose]

English and german should be easily moderateable

[waxen fiber]

Or have separate channels for separate languages

[elfin flicker]

Yeah like pre select ur current language and it filters to that

[visual rose]

No. I want english and german. Not english or german.

[rapid otter]

Shewel. reassigned back?

[brave mesa]

Not yet I guess

[limpid pasture]

He should be reassigned back on board.

[cinder comet]

i wanna transfer clan to active people anyone interested DM.

[cedar sandal]

still on?

[cinder comet]

yes

[unkempt oar]

Will he accept if they offered him a reassign back?

[brave mesa]

I guess not, but Im not working at WG

[magic field]

How many leaders here have had someone use their clan's identity in a recruitment post, especially in their wording and fake AI images? They just copy yours and put their tag on it. Has the game gotten that boring? 😂

[cedar sandal]

<@&481447501690568709> ban this scammer

thx

[wary elk]

people do that? 😭💔

[proven wedge]

Huh

[noble yew]

He's concerned about another clan copy pasting the ad he worked on.

We've had a couple instances recently of people posting ads for someone else's clan in order to troll the clan or use the ad to commit some other rule violation. Feel free to ping moderators if something like that happens to your clan.

[wary elk]

me waiting for wg to finally change the maximum amount of members from 50 to 100
https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-waiting-gif-13052487

[wary elk]

maybe as an option for the whole clan to progress on would be cool too instead of simply changing all clan's max member to 100.
like maybe after lvl10 supply or smth there's another thing the whole clan can grind on & not just for the max members to go up, but also maybe more clan exclusive tanks(that you still have to buy with gold), avatars, camo, or bg

[vast rapids]

How about a clan exclusive "Recruiting Camo"? With " Join ( name of clan) Today!" And "Now Recruiting ".
I'd pay gold for that. Slap it on the side of a Tog or E-100 and you've got a rolling billboard.

[gusty coral]

Clan progress should be change. In my opinion adding X level rewards can be 3-10 days premium account. Premium account you can’t get without paying. So why not?

[latent moth]

You bully people like me and call them losers, I have photo evidence of it too. Call someone else or Bully them like you did to me and you and will be reported to the moderators or admins will be notified players that start out with a new clan deserve our help and respect rather than the incompetence of high and mighty

Respectfully I understand that you think that you actually have trademarked and copyrighted material but the sad truth is ya don't.

[latent moth]

I agree with you on that, it should be available for everybody

[magic field]

I could share what you called me. Look who's out here being a bully. Sit down, push pop.

[vocal grail]

I dont think improving clan features is top of mind for devs rn

[stray granite]

Clan features basically have not worked at all in any of the tests. Hopefully, they will have a test with all features enabled before the release. Otherwise, we basically will not have clans when Reforged comes out. They exist, but in name only.

[latent moth]

Yeah you were bullying me and I'm not the only one probably that called you out

[latent moth]

Suck it up princess, it's done and over with

I'm not here to fight I'm here to learn and play with freedom of choice

[quick oxide]

@latent moth @magic field
I do not know what exactly the issues are or may be; who did what; who said what;
but kindly sort it out in Direct Message or simply drop it and move forward, please.

[latent moth]

Yes sir will do

[wary elk]

there are dozens of bugs with clans that haven't been fixed since 2023 and even as far back as the UI update

[wary elk]

1. promoting/demoting deputies notify the whole clan (since 2023)
2. list of members who contributed to the supplies resets to zero if they were kicked out & rejoin back in, if not they're simply no longer listed as a participant. (since the clan UI were updated, was it 2022? 21?)
3. tho this only happened to me once & , but have heard about it happening to someone else, if you were transferring clan lead to someone else & join another clan the clan became leaderless.
4. when on the members tab and switching between on the sorting thingy(whether by avg dmg, wr, etc.) sometimes the clan contribution bugs out & everyone's contribution becomes 0, while it's just a visual bug it's still kind of irritating when shuffling inactive members with active ones
5. when clan's full application lists are not received despite being notified for it.
6. former clan members on some clans appear in the chat tab
7. clan tournament history is missing(though this one includes personal tournament history also not showing everything)

[wary elk]

for suggestions :

1. change the max amount of clan members to 100, whether simply by changing the max amount, or making it like a progression thing for the whole clan to grind, or something you spend gold on as a clan leader.

2. adding more roles instead of just clan leader & clan deputies. where this new role could change clan description, motto, recruitment requirements, and even promote/demote deputies. then a recruiter role where they could only invite members but not remove them?

3. moderation in the clan chat, make it possible for deputies(or the new admin role) to be able to mute clan members/remove messages that are either inappropriate or spam, & an option to report it to wg(if the things they sent are against TOS)

4. perhaps more clan supply level, where members could unlock more things ( such as point 1. or even a clan shop, see point 5.)

5. maybe allow members to earn some kind of clan currency where they could earn it while platooning with a clanmate(encouraging clan members to platoon together) it could be a temporary currency where it expires after a month, they could exchange it for stuff within the clan store, maybe you could buy boosters, camos, or exclusive tanks like the IS 5 (since the currency can expire this encourage clan members to not only platoon together but also spend more time in the game)

6. a built-in clan leaderboard similar to blitzstars perhaps? maybe like a tab, could be based on activity, winrate, and so on.

7. more of a personal opinion but instead of yearly maybe twice a year clan event would be nice to fill in some of the months where things just feel like nothing's exciting happening. could skip this one tbh

[wary elk]

people would prob hate the 5th one but I'm also thinking of a way for wg to have more concurrent players while also thinking of a way for clans to be more active xd

[wary elk]

8. perhaps add more ingame interaction with other clans too, like a clan lead(or that new role in point 2.) could send a mail to another clan ingame, whether asking for training for comp teams, or simply asking for stuff. but add like 1 week cooldown for sending it to that 1 clan, and 1h cooldown for sending mail to another clan to stop trolls spamming clan mail

9. more of a personal opinion too but when a clan lead became inactive for a set amount of time a deputy could apply as the new clan lead and the members(or just deputies themselves) could vote whether they could be clan lead or not. this way deputies don't have the need to send tickets incase things happen, allowing customer service that are responding to tickets to deal with other things. or alternatively, a more simpler version is that an automatic notification sent to the most active deputy for them to take leadership when a clan lead became inactive

[tired bay]

Clan leader of clan ASTER here! I’ve been doing this for years pretty successfully. What are the qualifications for being allowed in this thread 🧵? 🐢 TY for a response!

[latent moth]

Just give your input on what you think would help

[tired bay]

@latent moth you’re missing the point of my comment. I asked what qualifies ppl to be allowed in this thread?

[ornate ruin]

Being on WoT Blitz Official discord

[tired bay]

@ornate ruin This thread I believe was started as a tool for clan leaders. Apparently anyone on blitz discord can access this. How can someone who’s not a clan leader be in this thread? Apparently anyone can access this! That’s in this discord server 🤔

[ornate ruin]

L

[ember token]

yeah i definitely agree especially with 3, 4, and 5

[quick oxide]

There is no easy way to make this channel a wotb clan leader only channel … unless linking to the game was mandatory - and - there was an automated way to validate clan leader yes/no … which then assigned a role on discord to allow access to this channel.

Perhaps simple as an idea, but full of hurdles technically.

[tired bay]

Aw right 🇺🇸🐢

[wary elk]

yup, especially since it only cost 100k credits to make a clan anyway it's kind of a waste of time

[stray granite]

I haven't compared your lists, but there does seem to be some overlap. Did you look at our clan requests and clan bugs lists pinned on this channel? Unfortunately, all we get from WG is 🦗 sounds when we ask for clan improvements and bug fixes.

[wary elk]

yeah some i took from the stuff i remember, tho i didn't even know there's pinned stuff

[ember token]

bro this reforged update is so dumb....... its gonna wreck my clan (and me)

i have 1 active person that already said he's prob gonna leave then the other people that dont read the news start asking what it is so im guaranteed to lose more(+ im really not sure if i want to stay with this garbage either........)

[wary elk]

since in reforged all of the servers are merged there'll be a lot more opportunities of bringing in more members, but if you'd like the current members to stay you should inform them of what it is, be optimistic, and explain patiently

[ember token]

server merge is nice i havent heard that

[noble yew]

Change of any kind is unsettling and there's going to to be some losses because of that. That happens with any major update and this is a bigger one. Encourage your members to try it and see.

Clans can also be good at sharing information and helping each other.

[ember token]

honestly tho i dont know a ton about the update except its a new game from what i saw and they ruined the tech tree researching system in my opinion btw not necassarily fact

[wary elk]

yep, that's why in testing there are an additional 2 characters for all clans like _A, _E, and _N to avoid clan names conflicting if there's 2-3 clans with the same name

[wary elk]

then maybe ask people for their opinion about it or watch & then share cc content to your members

[ember token]

well ill try and see what i can find ty btw

[stray granite]

I'd like to see no change to the clan tag if there is no conflict. I'll try to remember to suggest that in the next round of testing.

I.e. there is no need to append _NA if there is no other clan with that tag in another region. Don't be lazy script-kiddies and append to them all. 🙄

[wary elk]

oor just offer all clans a free clan tag change just like how people get a free ign change when their name is still player_insertnumberhere this can also work

[hexed shadow]

Where can I post recruitment ads and where can I look for players except this server and out of discord

[noble yew]

You can give invites to players you see in battles that aren't in a clan already. Atm I can't think of another discord server with a clan recruitment channel but you could make friends elsewhere and invite them.

[wary elk]

for ads do it in #clan-recruitment , you can look for players in battles or training room, it doesn't rlly have to be those without clans, you can just check if the clan they're in if inactive or not n ask them if they want to join yours instead

you can also look for players in other sites like reddit or facebook

[hexed shadow]

Already on that

[hexed shadow]

Gonna try reddit but where can I find places in facebook?

[wary elk]

uhh there's quite alot of wotb facebook groups, i personally haven't tried recruiting on either fb or reddit so idk

my way of recruiting is using alt accs to recruit new players that are still in bot or even newbie matchmaking since the majority are clanless still

[hexed shadow]

I don't want newbies I want players with around 2k battles(so they understand a bit about the game) green 30 day wr because we've gotten to a point where we should have standards and last but not least they must understand english to a good extent

[ruby berry]

Hello!

I had a problem between yesterday and today. I completed all my daily clan missions and even a weekly one. I should have 36 clan points. However, on the clan leaderboard, I only have 14. The points I earned last night (Tuesday) weren't counted. And I only have 4/7 missions completed to get the rewards, whereas I should have 6/7.
Other players in our clan seem to have the same issue.
Has anyone else had the same problem?
EU server

[noble yew]

I haven't had that problem on the NA server, but there have been other glitches.

With other clan members having the same problem it's well worth a ticket to support.

[ruby berry]

Thx for your answer

[boreal wind]

I don’t know if this is the right spot to suggest this but…
I think it would be a good idea to make the clan channels a forum. People looking for clans/recruiting could search by tags and would make the process a lot easier than scrolling messages that don’t apply to them.

[noble yew]

They are searchable now but getting everyone to put the required tags in their ads is an ongoing struggle. The pinned channel rules require an ign and server for ads in #clan-search ads and the clan name and server in #clan-recruitment ads. Mods keep reminding people but unfortuately Discord doesn't have a banner feature or other reminder that we can use.

[boreal wind]

On forums, mods can pin the “official guidelines” and it will always be the top forum. I also can’t see anything pinned so I can’t read them.

[noble yew]

Discord operates a little differently. On pc's the pinned messages are top right with a 📌. On mobile pinned messages are one of the categories I see when I start a search. Neither one is real obvious and are often missed, but it's what we have to work with.

[magic field]

I posted this in my server last week. Apparently, this scam is still going on. So, I'll just put this here:

‼️ There is a scam going around where someone DMs you asking for your help. They say they reported you because they received information from Discord about an illegal Nitro payment on your account, and if you want it resolved, you must send a friend request to some random name, pretending to be Discord support.

DO NOT FALL FOR IT!

Do not send the friend request. Do not even respond to the initial DM. Simply block and report the messages. You will also need to block the person who sent the DM. Their account has been compromised.

[cedar sandal]

They'll never do that, all these things has been asked 100 times but wargaming Is busy selling premium tanks ( also with reforged the game Wont have enough players for 100 members Clans)

[plush kiln]

@atomic berry Dms

[atomic berry]

What

[plush kiln]

Check your direct/personal messages please.
I've sent you a message explaining why your post was deleted.

[atomic berry]

Really i had done wrong thing?

[wary elk]

i mean i never said they will, it's just that we have to keep voicing our demands -w-
so there's a chance for the devs to see it, heck so other clan leads see it too, and they could add more to it if they want, the more people askin the better chance it's goin to be noticed

[cedar sandal]

People already did, but wg and blitz are focusing more on keeping the game Alive

[finite lodge]

GGs earlier 😂

[noble yew]

@finite lodge @cedar sandal Please keep your comments on clan leadership and stop the bickering.

sigh
If I have to referee an argument about who is behaving like an adult I'l send both of you to bed, with no screen time either!

[cedar sandal]

yea sorry XD

[finite lodge]

Alrighty, I had my fun

[noble ermine]

Hello everyone. Reforged has an option that allows clan leaders to decide who can be given clan rewards based on the amount of platoons clan members have played all over a week? This would be to avoid those members who don't platoon getting clan rewards like those who do.

[stray granite]

We as clan leaders need so many improvements to help clans, but I'm not sure this one would be a top priority. In my clan, we track performance of our players but do not set a requirement on minimum platoons. We regularly have players who contribute 90-120 honor points each week who do zero platoons. I think your request falls into the category of: set the rules you want in your clan, track your players, and enforce the rules the way you want.

But our need to track your players does fall under that first bullet point from the pinned list above. We do desparately need:

• A clan API pull, CSV, or spreadsheet so leaders/deputies can track player performance and participation without having to physically re-type or write down the information from the leader board every week.

[limpid pasture]

@stray granite You'd probably know the answer to this but anyone else is welcome to contribute. Is there anything as clan leads we have to do prior to the reforged update or will everything be automatically converted over?

[stray granite]

They're supposed to convert everything. 😬 I half-expect disaster - and I HOPE I am wrong. In addition to recording screenshots on everything in my own accounts, for the clan, I'm planning to record screenshots of everything clan related (settings, membership, weekly progress, etc). At least that way I can ask support to fix anything that gets broken in the transition. Not that I've had any luck with support following the EULA and doing the right thing recently, but I digress.

It's a great question and I'm all ears if anyone else has any suggestions on what we can or need to do to prepare for this transition as well.

[vast rapids]

@stray granite I'm doing the same. Rendering my account sterile. Selling off all premium ammo, setting all equipment on left side of all columns, selling consumables and screenshots of everything...etc.
I'll be able to determine quickly if a discrepancy has occurred.
Like you, I really hope I'm wrong.

[vocal grail]

It’s kinda easy imo - if clans are screwed after update, bye blitz

[magic field]

Oh, I'm already doing that

[finite lodge]

Just gotta give it a chance but yeah, I agree. Worked too hard on our clans.

[vocal grail]

Also, hope after update clan stats remains as their are, showing players wr in randoms as most important

[limpid pasture]

Has it been determined that premium ammo, all equipment on the left side, and consumables will not be transferred over and lost? Or is that just a precaution you're taking?

[limpid pasture]

Thanks for the response, I'll likely do the same then just in-case, but as you said will they actually help us if things go wrong? That's a different story.

[vast rapids]

@limpid pasture The left hand equipment is just for quick identification. The whole effort is just a precaution.
During the process today I found two tanks that had lost equipment, ammo and / or camo in previous updates that I just hadn't seen yet.
I cleaned up 100 tanks today. Low tiers. Sold off stuff and banked 2.5 million in silver. The higher tiers will yield much more obviously.

[limpid pasture]

I see, so it's more just you're organizing stuff.

[vast rapids]

@limpid pasture Yes, so that I can quickly see if anything goes missing during the introduction of Reforged.
I still have many more vehicles to set up. It's going to get tougher as I go because I still need tanks to play with for the next 20 + days.

[noble yew]

The transfer hub is one of the things that is being tested You could join the next (and final) Ultra Test and see if there are any problems. Other than any last minute bug fixes, the version on June 17 should be the same.

I've gotten into the habit of checking everything anyway whenever I select a different tank. Ammo can be reset to the default whenever there's a gun or ammo change in rebalancing, or I may not have adjusted my equipment after a change in that area. Having a checklist and using it every time has been helpful.

[stray granite]

Unfortunately, they don't do a transfer hub for clans/clan-leads. Every test so far (except the one I was excluded from) has included the players, but only 20% or maybe 30% of the clan related stuff worked for us to test. To get all the clan stuff working, they have a lot to accomplish in very little time. Maybe it's easy and they will get it done. I'm trying to be optimistic.

[noble yew]

After the problems clans have had in the past year+ I'd be up for it being scrapped and rebuilt.

I'm going to be interested in what is in it on the 29th. It may be an area that is still being worked on, idk.

[ember token]

so do leaders get to change the clan tag after reforged or no?

[magic field]

You can do that whenever you want lol

[ember token]

lol not what i meant

there was some talk of tags getting changed when reforged is released because of duplicates

[wary elk]

yeah since all clans have an added _A/_N/_E to their clan tag based on which server they're originally from to avoid naming conflicts
i assume you mean like getting a free clan tag change, probably not but i hope xd

[magic field]

Mine is getting changed to N/A, for non applicable as in no more. We are done when reforged releases. It will be a sad day.

[ember token]

ye thats what i meant

[noble yew]

According to the Clan Rules both the clan name and tag must be unique, but clans are organized on a server/region basis. A clan with the BLARG tag would be the only one in their region, but a clan in another region could also have the BLARG tag. Adding a region identifier will keep your clan tag unique on a global scale.

It's similar to nicknames. The are other El Din's but there is only one El Din 46.

[unkempt oar]

I'll make another El Din 46 on EU

[noble yew]

I always wear my [NA] when going outside of my region. It was either that or ™.

[stray granite]

It is child-simple to add region indicators only when there is a conflict. So far, they have been lazy and added region indicators by default. It seems the one extra line of code to do it right is simply too much effort.

[wary elk]

honestly i don't mind that since there're many dead clans(whether the tags were sniped on purpose) with a very unique tag, it gives clans a chance to finally use the tag they wanted.

[ember token]

ye the tag i wanted to use has a 2-3 person clan thats been dead for a few years

[magic field]

Send a ticket...

[ember token]

not worth atp cuz im just gonna choose something else entirely. funny story about that tho

I was just gonna abreviate my clan name(Destroyers) to DSTRO but since it was taken apparently i used a 0(number) instead of O(letter), so now, like 2 years later, im recruiting and cant figure out why 'my tag is sending them to a dead clan....... Apparently i forgot its the number instead of the letter

[magic field]

Yeah, ik. I was actually cracking up when I said it lol

[ember token]

so i just gotta wait another month til the 'weekend test' is over and i get my 2k gold so i can change my tag

[wary elk]

my old clan tag that i wanted to use for a subclan is also sniped hours after changing my clan tag to a different one years ago, and then they just don't do anything with it n stopped playing 😭

[limpid pasture]

So when this update drops in theory we should be able to rename to just our original clan name, granted no one else has beat us to it right?

[wary elk]

yes

i wonder if someone will snipe the [WG] tag in reforged 😭

[stray granite]

Buuuut, when? This is a preview and our accounts will reset at the real changeover in a few weeks. So I'm thinking there's no reason to mess with the tag yet.

[wary elk]

yeah, no reason to change our clan tag for now

[stray granite]

I'm at work and won't see the preview until at least tonight. I plan to really check out all the clan related stuff and give them as much feedback as possible, so hopefully they can get clan related things working by the real release in a few weeks. I encourage all here to do the same. Don't be bashful - we need this stuff to work if they/we want to keep the game afloat.

[vocal grail]

Meh... Reforged screwed up clan stats. No one is interested in some average ranking