#The Acolyte - Episode 7 Discussion

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tight vigil
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Reminds me of that West Wing episode when Toby only wants to keep the Knicks and the Celtics.

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Rip Oreos
Flowers are only flowers because they fall

candid comet
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I keep forgetting I bought the Oreos because we keep baked goods in the microwave even though the gremlin has been gone for months.

obtuse stirrup
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I still have a box and a half. 😁

oak bobcat
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I have a third of a package left, but that’s out of the two latest packages 😂

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I get a package or two whenever I see them while shopping lol

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Haven’t gotten (too many) odd looks for turning them over to look at what the UPC code ends in lol

wet sphinx
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Saaaaame.

obtuse stirrup
grand nimbus
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Leslye Headland has actually said EXACTLY THAT twice, just in more professional words. Her explanation was more along the lines of this: My goal is not to shock the audience with a big unexpected reveal, but instead to drop tiny clues along the way and have it be slightly more obvious, but in a good way. It allows for more drama in some cases. That's basically what I remember her saying.

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candid comet
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Because I don't want any Jedi scum in this house.

grand nimbus
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Wow... Some of you guys get serious about these things, I see. Now I understand why there's a red kyber crystal next to your name.

oak bobcat
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lol I just like buying a light side to balance the dark side

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No taste difference

compact osprey
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But we can also choose to be surprised.

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When we feel like it.

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Before they’re eaten.

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Oh you can name the crickets Jecki and Yord. 😬😅

candid comet
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candid comet
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Being sith is a hard life. Living on rocky planets with warm ocean pools, sacrificing jedi-crickets.

wet sphinx
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wet sphinx
compact osprey
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Also Charlie Barnett did that video where he thanked all the Yord fans and apologized for being dead.
That’s a sign that the healing can begin.

forest mulch
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It was just a silly meme joke...

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🙃

compact osprey
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Let us include you, FreeBird.

oak bobcat
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wet sphinx
sacred beacon
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wet sphinx
sacred beacon
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And that’s another thing.

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I know we’re sad that Jecki and Yord were violently murdered. But even if they had lived to die of old age, they would have passed away years before the Prequel era.

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So from a certain point of view, they’ve always been dead.

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sacred beacon
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i think someone else mentioned it before, but isn't Yoda the only live action/animated Jedi to die of old age?

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probably some comic or Legends Jedi though

uncut burrow
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sacred beacon
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i do not count Luke or Leia's deaths as natural causes or old age.

shadow jungle
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Neither do I, but... anyway

uncut burrow
wet sphinx
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And yet people will still say this show makes Anakin less special.

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drowsy pewter
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Yeah there's many maaaaany vergences in the force woven all throughout Star Wars. The Cave of Evil on Dagobah comes to mind

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Whomever created Anakin (canonically) spent a considerable amount of time researching the concepts of conception through the force, which implies that Anakin wasn't the first to be conceived this way. There was a precedence there. If anything, seeing the ramifications the births of Mae/Osha may have caused could be why the force views it as a big no-no

lusty rune
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So not something the witches did when they arrived. They just took advantage of the power source. Neat!

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Ley lines.

drowsy pewter
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Brendok may have amplified thread abilities in the witches, which made the conception of life much easier

oak bobcat
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The Jedi games are full of vergences that have you do challenges

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oak bobcat
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So cool to see a location based one, but seems no witch ever threw themselves into that hole in the mountain to see if she’d level up

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I mean technically they’re Force-induced hallucinations, just establishing they’re powerful force…things, and aren’t super duper rare

sacred beacon
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i thought Mae was going to jump in and then come blasting out of it like a super Saiyan or something 😂

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idk why 🤷🏽‍♀️ it's not like Aniseya seems that dangerous until she starts her magic.

lusty rune
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That's her secret. She's always doing magic.

wet sphinx
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oak bobcat
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He was still vulnerable to Mae’s emotional attack

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😭

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Mae’s emotions are exactly what he would be vulnerable to.

oak bobcat
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Maybe he should have taken a vow that included talking to a therapist

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oak bobcat
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The Jedi definitely have a poor emotional support system since they think they aren’t supposed to have emotions. And it leads inevitably to the bad eggs that end up causing wars

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I hope somewhere in the galaxy there is good therapy.

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Provided by actual good therapists.

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They can be droids, you just can’t memory wipe them.

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They need to be able to remember and adapt their techniques.

oak bobcat
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Like, how many younglings died cause no one besides Padme ever gave Anakin a hug

compact osprey
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But your point stands.

oak bobcat
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True, but yeah, had Anakin been given even half decent therapy he probably doesn’t turn

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If only Obi had just said “dang, tell me all about it bro!” rather than “they’ll pass” when Anakin confided about the dreams about his mother

oak bobcat
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Sol and Osha needed a boat load of therapy, instead now Osha has a decent chance of going dark side but also Sol has a small chance if he doesn’t die

drowsy pewter
# oak bobcat The Jedi definitely have a poor emotional support system since they think they a...

I agree! I think the episode demonstrates the importance of having the reins on one's emotions. It's ok to feel feelings, but making every decision based solely on temporary and misunderstood emotions (instead of having a balance between emotions vs. practicality) will always lead to trouble. The Jedi have an obligation to keep these things in check, because their messing up could destroy the galaxy. Sol's desire to help the children seemed well-intentioned, but the unchecked impulsiveness lead to the dismantling of the children's lives, and the presumed extermination of a group of people. Sol, so focused on himself, completely disregarded the future of the children

vital osprey
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This is why I love the High Republic. We see Jedi breaking down and dealing with difficult emotions and getting support and help

drowsy pewter
vital osprey
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Orla Jarenni, LPC

drowsy pewter
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Orla is who Anakin needed the most!

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🎵 Where have all the Orlas gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the Orlas gone?
Long time ago 🎵

oak bobcat
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You’d think they’d have holocron recordings of them

wet sphinx
oak bobcat
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I mean technically we know Orla has recordings

wet sphinx
drowsy pewter
fresh ether
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compact osprey
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I would absolutely accept psychiatric help from a Dr. Ball.

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He’s acerbic, but he gets to the root of the problem.

wet sphinx
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Amazing

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Ok I’m done.

fresh ether
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I should go watch a compilation of Dr. Ball.

wet sphinx
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Speaking of Orla Jareni, I wonder when/if we'll get figures of Jedi from that era.

obtuse stirrup
# vital osprey Orla Jarenni, LPC

I’m still angry about how ||she died! She didn’t deserve it. I love how Elzar talked about her to Avar, and I was so scared when Avar almost died from that nameless. It definitely would’ve tip Elzar to the dark side.|| (Spoilers for Temptation of the Force)

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umbral zephyr
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And it also ends up teaching him how to let go in a healthy way because when it’s time for the Younglings to move on to the Big Kid Class there’s also a new batch of tiny kids who need him.

outer elm
forest mulch
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sigh

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bitter cipher
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Trying to find gifs or Torbin and getting nothing but Saw gifs

shadow jungle
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Reminder, this is a fictional shield about space wizards and pew pew lasers

wet sphinx
outer elm
forest mulch
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I'm not giving them shit LOL

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They can fuck off.

marble vigil
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Idk but a Giant Pillar and two small girls are completely different lol

wet sphinx
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And a fun fact that I cannot believe I have to keep reiterating: SOL WAS PANICKING. PEOPLE WHO ARE PANICKING DO NOT MAKE RATIONAL DECISIONS.

outer elm
marble vigil
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Maybe Dooku was using Force Fear on Yoda so he was Forced to move the pillar instead of Obi and Anakin

forest mulch
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No one is sending hate at prequel fans here. Yikes...

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Also, THAT ENTIRE POST WAS SARCASM.

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forest mulch
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My god, I can type, I swear...

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marble vigil
outer elm
# forest mulch No one is sending hate at prequel fans here. Yikes...

I'm just trying to get you to understand a little that the way we feel when idiots rip on the show is a similar feeling to using the prequels inconsistencys on that part of the fandom that's all

It isn't deep or anything, just wanted everyone to be treated equally for what they like

wet sphinx
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Also, something that was brought up on Twitter was someone saying the Jedi have no right to make judgement calls on how well someone else's children are being raise since they train them to be soldiers. I categorically deny that the Jedi pre-Clone Wars are treated as soldiers. I also don't believe that they send "children" out into danger on purpose. Jecki was 18 on her first field assignment. That's her first time out of the Temple for official business in over a decade. So, I thought about all the scenes we see of Jedi training and it's one of two things: 1) Meditation. Or 2) Lightsaber training of some kind. WE have just as little right to judge the Jedi than Sol had to judge the coven. We don't see the poor overstressed Jedi Master trying to teach a bunch of hyperactive 4 year olds to calm their minds. We don't see Force food fights in the cafeteria. We don't see a bunch of 12-14 year olds howling and growling in Shriiwook. So....I think we should get a show that's just day-to-day life in the Jedi Temple during the early days of the High Republic.

bitter cipher
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It wasn't a rip into the prequels though, it was literally pointing out what people sound like when they complain about stuff in all recent star wars media.

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"That's how ya'll sound about the Acolyte. Stop."

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Could have very easily used any number of scenes from the OT and it would still be the same thing

forest mulch
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^^^^^^

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THAT

marble vigil
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Orrrr maybe Sol wasn’t even tryna save Mae since she tried to kill Osha and lied about the test for the Mothers

fresh ether
# outer elm I'm just trying to get you to understand a little that the way we feel when idio...

I get what you are trying to say here, but the point is not that the prequels are inconsistent, it's that if The Acolyte is stupid then the media the the people complaining about it hold up as "done right" must have the same scrutiny applied if you're approaching things in good faith. So either both are fine or neither are. The important words here are "in good faith" though, and we know that there's a problem with people "failing" to do that.

oak bobcat
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Why didn’t they just fly straight at the thermal exhaust port rather than through a trench? Worst movie ever /s

bitter cipher
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Luke only spent a couple of days in a swamp with this old frog guy how was he even able to last one minute against vader?

marble vigil
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Why didn’t Luke just use hyperspeed to blow up the Deathstar? So dumb indeed

fresh ether
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Something something "asteroids are expensive".

oak bobcat
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Might work but the Death Star can move, so, worst movie ever

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I will now spend the next 20 years devoting my life to the worst movie ever

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forest mulch
outer elm
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Fandom tbh^ down bad

oak bobcat
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No torpedo can make a sharp 90 degree turn, movie bad

wet sphinx
marble vigil
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Also the Fandom

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I just realized something.

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The fake cover up line from Empire Strikes Back that was used in the script (to hide the ‘Darth Vader is Luke’s father’ reveal from almost everyone) was “You don’t know the truth. Obi-Wan killed your father”.

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And that fake plot twist is happening now for real in The Acolyte.

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Osha’s teacher killed her mother, and this whole time she didn’t know the truth.

oak bobcat
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At least Sol didn’t cut off every extremity and then leave Aniseya for dead next to a river of molten lava

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But does it balance out that Obi Wan didn’t do that to Vader in front of his wife and kid(s)?

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Because Sol did murder Aniseya in front of her wife and kid.

oak bobcat
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I wonder how Osha will find out though

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Will she believe Qimir if he says Sol killed Aniseya

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oak bobcat
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Sol was possibly gonna spill the beans after the mission, but then Mae did a switcheroo

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Like maybe that’s why her putting it on was the last scene in episode 6, instead of the scene with Sol’s line “you’re going to listen”.

bitter cipher
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Ooooohhh right we all know this infor but completely forgot she doesn't know

compact osprey
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Possibly the director of episode 6 wanted to make it clear that Osha was tapping into the true story of episode 7, which Sol was telling to Mae.

oak bobcat
compact osprey
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Exactly.
It’s a bit of a stretch but I like the idea, so I’m thinking of it that way until I’m proven wrong.

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It’s also possible Sol just finds Osha next and tells her.
I don’t think Qimir will tell Osha.
I think he wants Sol to reveal it himself, for Sol to rip apart his relationship with Osha for good.

lament spruce
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I just still stuck on EP6 as well. Qimir let Osha walk around and be free. Where Sol once he fully knows just locks Mae down

oak bobcat
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I mean I got the feeling episode 3 was her recollection of events, so it stands to reason episode 7 could be what she sees/remembers while really focusing

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And using the helmet

bitter cipher
oak bobcat
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Or she was connected to Mae in some fashion and listening in on what Sol was telling her

lament spruce
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no it was a jedi point of view it really seemed. It really seems from Sol point of view. caught part of conversations and really infered from there

bitter cipher
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Love a good ObiAni scene

oak bobcat
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I absolutely love how the lightsaber blades look in this show

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The yellow ones especially

bitter cipher
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The yellows look so nice

oak bobcat
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I want Yord and Torbin’s as legacies but then they’d need to be v2 blades or I’d be disappointed

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The current lime yellow wouldn’t do them justice

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oak bobcat
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Kelnacca’s is perfect for making into a legacy, it would look right at home next to a Protection and Defence Savi

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But I bet Sol or Vern are first to get a legacy

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I think they purposefully did most or all of the lightsaber fights at night because how good they looked

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Not that the fights wouldn’t have been just as good in daylight, but that scene of Torbin just barely holding off Kelnacca and his face is lit almost purely by the two sabers, just 🔥

wet sphinx
humble adder
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Peaches!

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I keep missing the "u" and typing "yoi."

wet sphinx
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oak bobcat
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I’m gonna have to check out that show, I’ve never seen it

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Cancelled my Netflix subscription awhile ago

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drowsy pewter
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It was filmed from an peculiar angle so it appeared as if the smoke was coming from their hilts. I could also be completely wrong!

wet sphinx
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Rewatched Osha and Qimir’s first encounter a couple times to see if there was a discernible moment where Qimir realized it wasn’t Mae.

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I think in the first few seconds he reacts as if it’s Mae—he focuses on the persona he’s been playing, doing his standard greeting.

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Also he’s got goggles on, so he’s probably not focusing very hard on her because his regular vision is obstructed anyway.

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But after Osha greets him a second time, he starts to realize something is up—that it looks like Mae in the force, but it’s not Mae. He says hi again, and allows a bit of confusion into his voice.

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Then he takes off his goggles to get a genuinely good look at her. That’s when he realizes fully who is in front of him, and he continues as his persona but now with intent—he’s going to play along that Osha is Mae, and use the moment to observe and study her.

wet sphinx
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And then when he gets close and drops the "You look just like her" line, he drops the mask entirely for a moment.

humble adder
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Swoon

uncut burrow
# humble adder Swoon

Swoon? Seriously? Swoon? You’re swooning for the guy who killed Jecki and Yord?
Why do girls always fall for the bad guys?

rustic lark
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So that was a pretty solid episode but metal detectors? Come on that was soooooo lame!

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I have as much of an issue with the props department repurposing metal detectors into ambiguous bio-material scanners as I do with them repurposing ladies’ safety razor handles into communication devices.

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Which is to say no issue, because why not.

candid comet
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I think they could have greeblied them up a bit more. Since you don't normally talk into a razor it wasn't immediately obvious what it was. But using (metal detector) nearly unchanged as (life detector) did seem pretty earthly.

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not show-ruining or anything, just could have added some bits and glowy stuff or something

oak bobcat
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That was probably one of the things Kelnacca was complaining about that they just rolled their eyes at. “Guys, why am I using a metal detector to find a Vergence?”

wet sphinx
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Eh, real world objects getting a slight overhaul to be sci-fi gizmos is a tradition. Han's DL-44 being a Mauser with a scope and a new "muzzle", the E-11 being a machine gun with parts REMOVED, the aforementioned Gilette razor as a comunicator

humble adder
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Jecki was self defense at that point. And Yord needed to get good.

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Now Han and Anakin can go kick rocks.

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I happen to like nice people.

forest mulch
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Han can kick rocks?

wet sphinx
humble adder
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Yep.

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Not my kind of dude.

forest mulch
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Welp

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Ok then

humble adder
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Luke is better for me.

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I am a Luke girl through and through.

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But I'm happy for Leia.

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Also the "wah why do girls like bad boys" reminds me that men like mean girls ALL THE TIME.

fresh ether
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Despite what Steven He claims, there is a difference between emotional damage and lightsaber damage.

humble adder
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I love my nerds.

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Luke, Brasso, Echo, Bode, Qimir

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Although if I had to choose between Qimir and Aniseya, I'm going with Aniseya.

sacred beacon
compact osprey
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The ‘fun’ part about The Stranger is it’s him that fixes you to his way of thinking.

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You don’t even get the luxury of failing to fix him but still keeping your own opinions.

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Now you’re just on the dark side too, and it will forever dominate your destiny.

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Whoops.

wet sphinx
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You're not entirely incorrect

rustic lark
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lunar herald
wet sphinx
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Also, far from the only time that a sci-fi franchise used a metal detector as a stand in for some other kind of scanning device, as seen in this screenshot from Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country.

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peak pawn
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its a show. with space wizards, it requires you to suspend disbelief in general

wet sphinx
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candid comet
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we noticed it looked just like a metal detector. we laughed. we moved on, because there was so much else in the episode that was so good.

rustic lark
craggy dune
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It seem that here are quite a few people who come in here, rile stuff up, and leave.

dull sonnet
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?mute @craggy dune 2hr while some of what you said is true, let’s find ways to rephrase it.

leaden turtleBOT
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dynoSuccess gaming_wraith was muted. | while some of what you said is true, let’s find was to rephrase it.

dull sonnet
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You get the idea

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humble adder
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We need more gifs of her

wet sphinx
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Aniseya is a great character.

viscid plaza
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I hope we get some more of her, even in S2

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wet sphinx
rustic lark
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wet sphinx
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Meanwhile, poor Sol and Torbin are picking grass. Look, I'm not gonna say Torbin was justified in what he did, but if I were in his shoes, I'd be looking for any way to go home too.

viscid plaza
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That kind of field work is sure to be boring and tedious

lunar herald
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dull sonnet
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Oops

wet sphinx
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Even Grim can make a mistake sometimes.

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No. The Supreme Leader is wise.

oak bobcat
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I keep noticing this each time I watch, Koril: “take another step and it’ll be your last” (Sol and Torbin proceed to take like 2-3 steps closer lol)

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oak bobcat
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Just one more day and we get to see how many crazy mysteries they’ve left us to endlessly speculate about

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lusty rune
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  • next episode is just all the characters sitting around eating pizza.
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oak bobcat
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But what about Qimir and Osha? Do they get pizza?

candid comet
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Everyone gets pizza

compact osprey
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Pizza is like atmosphere

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Everyone automatically has access to it regardless of morality.

wide mica
lunar herald
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uncut burrow
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Pizza? Shouldn’t it be shawarma?

compact osprey
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Probably several somewheres.

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Or pizza.

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Whatever you like.

tight vigil
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Osha wakes up standing on the outside of the ship she was repairing, all events part of a vision she saw in the fire. Everybody's happy and alive and it makes her realize she misses them and that's how they have their pizza party.

compact osprey
# tight vigil Osha wakes up standing on the outside of the ship she was repairing, all events ...

Osha smiles at her family and friends as they stand around the table on Sol’s ship, munching pizza.
Then she feels a tug at her ankles, and looks down.
It’s a little baby skura, trying to get her attention.
And she realizes she’s standing alone in a dark side cave full of cortosis veins on Unknown Planet, with a chisel and pick in her hands.
Trying to collect enough cortosis to build her own dark side helmet.

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At least the skura is cute.

candid comet
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Does it tug her ankle or put the trunk on her skin and lightly apply suction like a tiny lamprey?

wet sphinx
compact osprey
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Kind of like a cat paw tugging at pant cuffs.

viscid plaza
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predictions for the finale:

compact osprey
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…actually if that happens I’m gonna be sad. ☹️

bitter cipher
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only 42 minutes... thats not long enough!

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oh wait was thinking that was tonights episod

lusty rune
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Rewatching, and seven weeks into the mission, no one had told Torbin why they were on Brendok or what a vergence was.

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For all that Brendok has a vergence like the cave on Dagobah, going into that facility had a lot of "only what you take with you" as far as the Jedi getting what they expected.

candid comet
lusty rune
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I've been there.

wet sphinx
fresh ether
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Torbin having emotions and the rest of the Jedi being unable to help him manage them is pretty on-brand though.