The Acolyte General Discussion

[rocky tundra]

https://x.com/amikoroyai/status/1802088338897121484?s=46&t=IItPmx-4WSwYiaHXaAPcqQ

🦊Amiko💀🧼brainrot (@AmikoRoyAi) on X

No Yord and Jecki this week so have a meme with them

#theAcolyte #YordHorde

Twitter · Jun 15, 2024, 9:18 PM

[main ivy]

I saw that on Insta yesterday 😂😂😂

[grave siren]

Yeaaah the sequels aren't particularly my favorite, but there's so much to like about them! The cinematography is mesmerizing. The acting is increeeedible. I mean I could go on and on fr

The direction of the sequels may not have been what I would've wanted, but being emotionally mature is accepting that somethings don't work out the way you'd want them to. I mean there was a time where I didn't think we'd even get any more major star wars installments after ROTS fr

[wary sequoia]

I find in a weird way, it's almost fulfilling the destiny of Star Wars.

George Lucas was inspired by the serials he watched at movie theaters as a kid, specifically Cowboy and Superhero serials. and those were always kind of silly, cheesy affairs.

Folks forget about that. Sometimes, something can be incredibly flawed, and also still incredibly valid and fun

[main ivy]

Exactly. As a whole, I don't like TCW. But it gave us Ahsoka and Satine Kryze, both characters I really love (Satine more than Ahsoka lol). The Mandalore arcs are great.

[real sparrow]

It's worth remembering that Flash Gordon is exactly as silly as he was aiming for.

[grave siren]

Definitely! I'm the same but with Rebels! I had trouble caring about the characters, but I really dig the lore it added to the universe as a whole (World between Worlds, the Bendu, Morriban, etc). I'm still pretty indifferent on the ghost crew's individual story arcs, even as they continue in Ahsoka, but the impact that Rebels had definitely gave me a deeper level of appreciation

[real sparrow]

Funnily enough I am largely the opposite about Rebels, but it's great that we can agree we both got something out of it.

[dense prawn]

I’m not sure where I’d fall on the sliding scale. I love both shows, but when I re-watch I skip a lot of episodes that I didn’t like 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[main ivy]

I love Rebels.

[dense prawn]

Clone Wars is epecially guilty of it, I skip pretty much any droid or Darth Jar Jar episodes

[cedar kernel]

I will watch every episode of Rebels, and I will skip 67% of Clone Wars

[main ivy]

For me it's probably closer to 90% of TCW episodes lol

[dense prawn]

It’s sad though cause like Stargate, sometimes the C plot in those episodes becomes really important, or was just super interesting

[grave siren]

Yeah I tried watching Rebels when it had originally aired, but just wasn't feeling it. I was aware of certain story beats from friends, and mostly just kinda cherry-picked certain episodes. I ended up watching it in it's entirety about twoish years ago fr and it felt like I was being waterboarded LMFAOOOO

[grave siren]

Man I loved TCW. I think my love for it was mostly childhood nostalgia. I watched the episodes as they aired on cartoon network!

[dense prawn]

Yeah that was the beauty of CW and Rebels, they were still made in the era of broadcast TV. When you had more than 8-10 episodes and some could be weak because that meant some would be really good. Nowadays it’s setting a new high bar like Andor or you’re automatically a failure

But that’s unsustainable

[grave siren]

We brushed on it before, but I think the eventual transition from broadcast tv to streaming services placed a higher expectation on tv production in general. Cable cutters who previously didn't have much desire to subscribe to early premium streamers like HBO now had access to HBO's extensive library. Seeing the quality of HBO's shows (The Sopranos, The Wire, GoT, Rome, etc) may have pushed more folks to expect that from other streamers too. No one realized the amount of money HBO was throwing at these shows for production costs. A single episode alone was about a million bucks to produce. Netflix knew in order to compete, they'd have to cough up some cash too. The gradual rise of streaming services felt like the cold war: streamers' continued competition through progression and innovation (with a few hit or misses here and there). Seeing big production names in broadcasting tv crumble under the pressure was interesting. It's definitely something I could see being intricately studied by historians in the coming years!

I know for me: I fully expect each and every show Disney puts to be movie production-esque. Andor proved that it's possible for Disney to do it. They have zero excuses. Solely because Disney has a plethora of cash, and limitless access to resources (tapping certain directors + scriptwriters, usage of latest tech, innovation in video production, etc)

[dense prawn]

Oh yeah production costs have soared, there’d be even more uproar if Acolyte looked cheaply made

I mean even the final installment of the ww2 series shows Masters of the Air was delayed for over a decade because of ballooning production costs. It even became too much for HBO

[gaunt atlas]

Other than cheap fake beards. 😉

[dense prawn]

Hey his beard was real, and awesome

Made Kelnacca jealous

[grave siren]

Ahh yeah! It ended up working itself out sorta🤔The show itself was gorgeous! Probably not the best of the three other installments (Band of Brothers & The Pacific). Ironically enough, Favreau's innovations of virtual production served as the backbone of Masters Of Air's production. Made filming the show feasible from both a production standpoint and budget-wise

[cedar kernel]

90% is wild but I appreciate it

[dense prawn]

Yeah something tells me they’d need something like the set the made for Mando, “the volume” to make it

[grave siren]

It's kinda cool how widespread usage of the volume has been in modern productions. It saves so much time and money, but there's gotta be a balance between using it vs. using practical sets. I always chuckle seeing Anakin run during the Clone Wars flashback from Ahsoka

[dense prawn]

It had an A+ cast like the rest but it did sort of lack the spark of Band of Brothers

[grave siren]

Same thing happens w the hilarious Leia chase scene from Kenobi

[dense prawn]

Yeah, sometimes they just have to fudge it lol

[dense prawn]

Personally I thought that bit funny, and even more so because people threw a fit over it

[grave siren]

Yeah it just felt like something was missing. I think for me, I had trouble genuinely caring for each character. Wasn't an issue for BoB and The Pacific. But i digress

[grave siren]

Oh it was hilarious😭very cute scene but just felt so goofy

[dense prawn]

It suffered cause it needed to be longer, but yeah, back to Star Wars lol

I always felt it somewhat plausible because they’ve shown working for the empire is at times literally “do as your told and say nothing or die, not be fired, but fired upon”, so a couple stormtroopers noticing and saying nothing because they didn’t feel like dying made sense to me

Going to an officer and saying “hey I saw an older guy with a child under his coat” probably would get an eye roll at best

[main ivy]

Why is bad fake facial hair such a thing in modern TV?

[dense prawn]

Another Torbin beard hater 😢

[real sparrow]

I need to watch that still. TY for reminding me.

[dense prawn]

I didn’t know who Austin Butler was before watching it, now I wonder if he’ll be the next big star in the MCU or maybe Star Wars.

[cedar kernel]

I enjoyed the use of the Volume, or at least didn’t notice it negatively for Mando. In Kenobi it felt shockingly small and limiting. I appreciated Andor was mostly set pieces and location shoots

[grave siren]

Ahh he was in Elvis! And Dune!

[dense prawn]

Yeah I never saw Elvis and didn’t see Dune 2 until after I watched Masters of the Air lol

Him with his hair in MotA vs bald in Dune was a bit of whiplash

[gaunt atlas]

no money left for beards after sfx

[amber wind]

Every time I see Austin Butler I feel like he's trying too hard to make his voice sound deep

I like him though

[dense prawn]

Need to add “ | #1 Torbin Beard Stann” to my username 😝

[amber wind]

The worst best part about The Acolyte for me so far is Torbin's beard

[dense prawn]

Because it’s so distractingly awesome

[amber wind]

right

[dense prawn]

Totally not saying that because it’s how my beard grows in 😭

[amber wind]

Mine isn't much better tbh

[grave siren]

Yeah he relied heavily on method acting when getting ready to play Elvis, which seemed like an...interesting idea. It got progressively weirder, with it somehow becoming his entire personality for months after the film was released

[dense prawn]

Watch his episode of Hot Ones, he talks about how Tom Hanks sent him a typewriter so they could send each other letters in character

[amber wind]

That's actually really cool. I would love to be typewriter pen pals with Tom Hanks

[grave siren]

I need Tom Hanks to play Syril's uncle in Andor. I will not elaborate

A part of me kinda wishes the coven on Brendark wasn't a coven, and was just a simple offshoot of the Path ._. Would've been interesting to see the Path discover Osha and Mae to be force-sensitive and completely shun them. Similar to what happened to Zeen and The Elders of the Path

Then again, I also think that because the novels are still coming out, the writers of Acolyte may have wanted to avoid stepping on any toes or accidentally spoiling certain story beats

[wanton radish]

I don't know if somebody has already said this, because I'm responding to a post that's almost a month old. However, the first blaster bolt deflection with the Force by release order is almost certainly in The Empire Strikes Back.

When Lando leads Han, Leia, and the others into Vader's trap, Han tries to shoot Vader, but Vader deflects it with the Force.

[rocky tundra]

This scenario would only work ||if Osha and Mae were children conceived the way humans normally make children||.
If the coven was a Path offshoot they wouldn’t have ||made children using the force|| at all.

And it’s entirely possible (though not yet confirmed) that Osha and Mae ||being force conceived is why the Sith get involved in the first place||.

So changing the coven to a Path offshoot that completely repudiates force use wouldn’t just be that one change, it would change multiple parts of the story.

[cinder oasis]

no worries haha i think that convo was about which happens chronologically, so..... not actually sure where the Maul/Bo scene falls vs the Han/Vader.

i'm so bad with the overlapping timelines

[grave siren]

This is immediately what I thought of when Vern started researching Light Whips ngl. I remember her being directed to some archival info about Nightsisters using Light Whips

[grave siren]

AHHH YOURE RIGHT. THAT COMPLETELY SLIPPED MY MIND

[grave siren]

You're right it'd definitely shift a lot of moving parts in the story

[wanton radish]

Maul/Bo was during one of the very last battles of the Clone Wars, it would be quite a while before Vader/Han if you're counting chronologically.

[real sparrow]

It's in A New Hope, on the Falcon when Luke fights the remote.

[wanton radish]

That's not with the force. That's with a lightsaber. That doesn't count for this conversation.

[real sparrow]

Ooooh, I misunderstood exactly what you meant, since Luke used the force to get the lightsaber in position. ESB is correct then.

[cinder oasis]

by release order, yes. and canonically, it's Maul and Bo.

BUT

Acolyte is high Republic

so if it happens, technically this'll be first chronologically xD

[vital oxide]

https://x.com/StarWarsUK/status/1802665069005692936

Star Wars UK (@StarWarsUK) on X

A simple mission changed four Jedi forever…

Discover the mystery yourself, #TheAcolyte is now streaming only on @DisneyPlusUK.

Twitter · Jun 17, 2024, 11:30 AM

WHAT

DID

THEY

DO

[mint kindle]

https://fixupx.com/alexleonis/status/1802820605177409575?t=WVw9ZfkZs0B_bMlQQjCOUQ&s=19

Sharing for my fellow proud Qimir cryptids.

[dense prawn]

Yord Horde!

[rocky tundra]

https://fxtwitter.com/starwars/status/1801329059672289545

[dense prawn]

The Yord Board made me hungry

[dense prawn]

I don’t ever host parties/make charcuterie boards but I kinda want one lol

[main ivy]

Same lol

[dense prawn]

Can sit next to my rancor tooth beer flight that I probably will never use cause I don’t ever have more than one type of beer lol

[rocky tundra]

Just pour the one beer into the different teeth, and add different food coloring to each serving to make them look different.

[main ivy]

We use ours to hold board game tokens lol

[dense prawn]

I need to think of a use for mine like that lol. I got a set smuggled to me from @cinder oasis and then was like…ok now what do I do 🤦‍♂️😝

[mint kindle]

Put them in your mouth and pretend to be a vampire?

[tulip terrace]

I’ve seen people using them as planters for succulents or fake plants. @gaunt atlas Is an expert on doing alien like faux plants. I still sing to my tiny plant.

Less than q2 12 hours for Acolyte

[dense prawn]

Q2 hours? Is that how time is counted at the QD house? 😝

[tulip terrace]

It is F1 timing, lol. Kidding! I definitely need more coffee. 12 hours!!!

[main ivy]

QD is on a whole different level from the rest of us 😂

[main ivy]

Actually I think lithrops (living stones) would be really cool in the rancor teeth! You only have to water them like, once a year or something so you wouldn't have to worry about the lack of drainage

[dense prawn]

Sadly the cups aren’t that small, I could shave what’s left of my hair and glue them to my head and pretend to be Darth maul 🤦‍♂️😝

[mint kindle]

Equally entertaining ridiculous idea!

[tulip terrace]

Those would definitely look fantastic! I may steal that idea.

[main ivy]

They are such cool little plant dudes!

[dense prawn]

The real question now then is, do any of the other Acolyte factions have as sweet merch as the Yord Horde?

[dense prawn]

Found a list of them cause I couldn’t remember, I think that first comment should totally be one lol, “Osha Violations” 😝

[amber wind]

Sol Patrol reporting in

[amber wind]

Sol Bowl

[rocky tundra]

I had heard it was Pip Squeaks from an article.

But I get why another fan faction name would be Pip Boys. 😅

[dense prawn]

I think Yord’s actor calls them Pip Squeaks, or that was what he came up with

[main ivy]

Here is the article: https://www.starwars.com/news/yord-horde-charlie-barnett-interview?cmp=smc|13766090104

[dense prawn]

It’s funny how he was all psyched to be a hated character and then he got friends sending him Yord Horde memes lol

I believe he said this one is his favorite, “Yord Fiesta” 😂

[cinder oasis]

people love himbos. look at Kristoff from Frozen. Yord just has a little more "I'm compensating for my insecurities by reminding you I'm a Jedi Knight every day." 😂

[main ivy]

Luke is 100% a himbo

and people love him

(including me)

so I can only conclude that your hypothesis is correct

[amber wind]

Kia Sol

[dense prawn]

I had to google that, but I guess himbo is in the dictionary now lol

[rocky tundra]

Din Djarin is also a himbo.

There are many himbos in Star Wars, really.

Is it a himbo sort of place.

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-silly-place-holy-grail-gif-14462043

Unlike Camelot though, we should indeed go to the galaxy far far away.

[cedar kernel]

you think? you'd have to be pretty shrewd to be a Bounty Hunter I think

[rocky tundra]

Point. I would amend it to say that Din Djarin is a subset of himbo, which is intelligent but very…niche focused.

[dense prawn]

Also, only IG knows how pretty he is

[rocky tundra]

Din Djarin is very good at what he knows.

What he doesn’t know…well, he’s the first person in Star Wars to burn themselves with a lightsaber.

[cedar kernel]

true, he also had many himbo moments, especially after becoming a dad

[dense prawn]

I’m willing to bet around the time lightsaber’s were invented there were a lot of Jedi missing fingers/limbs lol

And something tells me Vern has literally disarmed a number of bad guys 😂

[cinder oasis]

Finn is the ST himbo lollll

Anakin is the PT

[rocky tundra]

Yes but did she hit herself with her own light whip.

[dense prawn]

So even by then Jedi weren’t immune to accidents lol

I can see why button switches weren’t more popular, sit down too quickly and you lose your butt 🤣

[rocky tundra]

Not the butt!
Jedi need that for meditating.

[dense prawn]

Or maybe that’s why they developed the ability to levitate while sitting, like Torbin. No chance of accidentally igniting your saber and damaging your precious, luscious beard

[rocky tundra]

It all makes sense now lol.

[main ivy]

I'd argue that Anakin can't be a himbo because his violence precludes him. Himbos are kind.

Slaughtering Tusken raiders is the opposite of kind.

This article discusses the definition as I've seen it used most often in fandom spaces: https://mashable.com/article/what-is-himbo-meme

(not that language doesn't change and you can't use this made-up word in another way, of course.)

Din is like "A himbo may not be unintelligent. Much like their feminine counterparts, there are plenty of smart-in-other-ways himbos."

[dense prawn]

Less than q6 hours to go? @tulip terrace 😛

[shrewd vigil]

Just saw Episode 3 and I have several questions.

I will say ep 3 did something I have had interest in. Witch craft with the force. Something along the lines of the nightsisters.

[cinder oasis]

i've known the definition to also include kind, but i wasn't sure if it was a requirement. i'm sure Padme would say he's very kind and Obi-wan would attest to his brainlessness 😂

but idk if the galaxy would agree.... xD

so if not Anakin, Jar Jar is the himbo?

[main ivy]

💯💯💯

[cinder oasis]

moving my next question to #star-wars-universe cause it'll definitely deviate even further from Acolyte xD

[quaint willow]

Don't we all?

[tulip terrace]

You learn fast my young padawan. As reward I’ll let you know one more thing Vernestra did with her light whip. ||She once cut clean the hand of a pregnant woman that was trying to kill her. She also used it to clear up a path through a jungle like planet. It’s very handy for those type of things, but not as effective in close combat.||

Look at that, I gave you two things. 😁

[dense prawn]

One of those things is slightly less unethical than the other lol

[tulip terrace]

🤷‍♀️

[grave siren]

It was all for the greater good!

[quaint willow]

When you tune in to watch the Acolyte but you realize 6 pm was 6 pm PT and you are ET...

[amber wind]

I literally just had the same experience

[cedar kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[swift tangle]

This is so freaking bad. I’m sorry I’m really trying to like it. I would’ve loved a great representation of the high republic era and we r given this. Hopefully a turnaround with the upcoming episodes!

[pure rover]

GL

[exotic marten]

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-the-acolyte-viewership-data-real-indicator/

Data showing high minutes watched and increasing

[quaint willow]

I will only say that life is too short to watch something if you don't like it, and definitely too short to watch something week after week if you don't like it and way way too short to write about not liking it.

I gave Resistance two episodes and wasn't into it and moved on and Mando and Andor came along.

By all means give it one more episode if you like, but I suspect you will get more enjoyment out of something else, play Fallen Order, read one of the books, watch a different show Star Wars or another sci-fi.

Maybe I'm weird but with 2 kids under five 30-90 minute uninterrupted blocks are hard to come by so stopping a movie or not continuing a show isn't unheard of

Not saying you can't dislike Acolyte, just don't waste your life on something you dislike when you could be experiencing something you do enjoy.

[modern laurel]

I've got too much real life stuff to be angry about 😆 If I don't like a piece of entertainment I forget about it and move on

[grand stream]

I keep telling my friends that I have liked everything Disney Star Wars and I keep forgetting that Resistance was a thing.

[quaint willow]

Also Ewok movies, The Holiday Speciql, and R2-D2 beyond the dome

[gaunt atlas]

"The Holiday Special"
You take that back

[quaint willow]

Make me (note you have the power to delete my messages and in this instance if you do I think it will be funny)

[gaunt atlas]

I will let the world see your shame

[main ivy]

The orb is watching, "Vernestra"

https://tenor.com/view/cate-gif-24884841

[exotic marten]

Hey you miss the joy of bucket if you don't watch resistance

[exotic marten]

https://search.app.goo.gl/F6ChvPw

[swift tangle]

True but I like the high republic stuff. Good points tho

[grave siren]

I thought I was the only one who wasn't feelin Resistance🤣I watched half of the first episode and immediately was like nooooope

[grave siren]

All good! What's awesome about the HR is that there's a variety of stories, told in different mediums. Key takeway is that liking Star Wars isn't an all-or-nothing kinda thing (that is, dealing in absolutes😉); there's tons of stories I just never got into. Like it took me yeaaaaars to fully watch Rebels, and I did it begrudgingly

[amber parrot]

I only watched Rebels in the last year or so. I absolutely loved it from halfway into the first episode.

[modern laurel]

Resistance also had a really awkward start. First season they were definitely aiming to be a kid show – but season two really started to get more dramatic with more tie ins to the sequel era.

I would’ve liked to have seen another season. I think they could’ve told some good stories with it.

[swift tangle]

I bet. Some stuff is hard to get around to and finish.

[amber parrot]

I saw a really funny reel on instagram about the seasons of TCW that ended up with the viewer dressed in armor and sobbing on the sofa for the final season. I wish I could find it because it perfectly captures how that show went for me.

[main ivy]

I love Resistance. It does start a little slow but by about halfway through season 1 I was invested in the characters. And season 2 is better than most of TCW. (I said what I said.)

[swift tangle]

Oh fr haha. I can imagine it. TCW was great!!

[wanton radish]

Me too! I kinda wish more people felt the way you and I do. I think that because it didn't have as big a fan base as TCW or Rebels it got cancelled. It wasn't announced as a cancelation, but the wrap-up at the end of Season 2 felt a bit rushed to me.

[real sparrow]

The ending of season one is actually an admirably difficult tone shift to pull off, but it went back to being a little too silly for me in season 2. Most of the characters outside Kaz were great though, and I'd love to have seen more daily life stories.

[tulip terrace]

I really enjoyed Resistance, so you can add me to that list.

[real sparrow]

It definitely didn't get the run it was supposed to, and the merch push was basically nonexistent compared to Rebels so I got the impression that Disney weren't super confident about it.

[main ivy]

I think it also suffered by being in that weird time period right before Disney Plus launched

[wanton radish]

Yeah. I collected Star Wars DVDs and Blu-Rays back then. Resistance Season 1 was the last one I got, because Season 2 never got a home video release.

[kindred rose]

Anyone catch the new (older, I guess?) version of the Fusion Furnace in Ep3??

[rocky tundra]

I did not, but now I know it is there. 😊

I also liked the proto Gonk in episode 1 of the show, that was a neat re-design.

[wanton radish]

Nah. Star Wars is a zombie. It can die as many times as it wants in the eyes of haters. The people who believe in it and want to see more will always make it UNDEAD.

[tulip terrace]

GONK!

[mint kindle]

https://fixupx.com/candaceisageek/status/1803973228244746711?

[topaz fulcrum]

KAM having a MONTH

[gaunt atlas]

#1252298898463260702 message

[grand stream]

And good ol SWT is threatening a defamation lawsuit after they pointed out that the harassment didn't start until after he posted a video whining because Wookieepedia updated with now canon information. Certain people are just going off the deep end.

[lofty thistle]

I’m not sure how to get things to settle down.

Collectively, I know it’s not on us, but are people going to keep maintaining fan resources if they get threatened with violence and spurious lawsuits for acknowledging a change some people dislike?

[real sparrow]

Discussion of how is probably not what the server wants to get into.

[main ivy]

I don't think anyone has the answer. But one thing we can do, and have been trying really hard to do, is maintain this space as a generally positive, safe discussion space.

While I personally (not speaking for any other mods here) do think it's important to be informed of what's going on in the general fandom, I also (now speaking as a mod) would encourage everyone to try not to fixate on it too much. At a certain point, talking about the haters becomes unproductive and nearly as tiresome as the haters themselves.

SWT and his ilk are energy vampires who suck the joy out of Star Wars. Let's not let them do that here.

[topaz fulcrum]

I mean, there's no legal thing that would give any basis for it. I'd love to see them find a lawyer willing to take that case. So I don't think the lawsuits will dissuade people

I will saw that I'm infinitely grateful for Wookiepedia. Makes reading the books far easier to remember ssome of the smaller alien species and characters

For example (potential Outlaw/Aftermath spoilers) ||I saw a mention about a character that was potentially in a recent promo video for outlaw. I didn't recall the name and used Wookiepedia to remind me it was a Sullustan gangster from the first Aftermath book||

[dense prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/energy-vampire-colin-robinson-wampir-energetyczny-energy-vampire-gif-27564016

Colin Robinson is offended to be compared to that YouTuber

[short ether]

https://tenor.com/view/redd-foxx-fred-sanford-and-son-nope-not-today-no-way-gif-14052366

[grand stream]

I don't know where I'd go to look up the alien names that escape my memory most times without Wookieepedia.

[amber wind]

I think this is a reflection of society as a whole right now. Things are in a bad state.

[vital oxide]

And it won't get better unless we actually acknowledge things are...wonky. Which of course, we aren't able to do yet.

[main ivy]

Before Wookieepedia existed I generally used the Essential Guide to Alien Species.

Or the visual guide to one of the films

[real sparrow]

Those books are still wonderful resources.

[main ivy]

Definitely

[rancid burrow]

Damn I’m actually jealous lol

[mint kindle]

Third child! Twitter just proposed that Smilo Ren is a third child.

[gaunt atlas]

a surprise third child despite the girls outright saying "we're the only kids here"?

[mint kindle]

Yes. Because the adults' reaction during that scene.

[modern laurel]

Maybe it’s a Kwisatz Haderach/Bene Gesserit kinda thing? He wasn’t planned but happened accidentally?

[mint kindle]

Could be. Perhaps the twins weren't their first try.

And because the Sith master is referred to as "he" they could have hidden him or given him away.

[barren oxide]

I had a look at YouTube again, after ignoring it for a little time and… what is wrong with you people (with you I don‘t mean you but humanity in general)? It‘s not just the videos, the comments too. I mean, look, I don‘t like the ST, but that doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy the rest of this huge Stsr Wars franchise. It also doesn’t mean that I need to insult people who like the ST.
Looking at fhe seriesas objectively as I can, I find nothing “woke” or “feminist”. Nor does it give me message that Disney hates white men. And I am a white man!
If this to something trivial like a sci-fi series, what does that mean for important real life issues, like politics??? I fear for our civilization.
If you’re such a great Star Wars fan, haven’t you listened to Yoda? “Hate leads to suffering.”

Sorry, dead horse and all, but I had to get it off my chest.

[real sparrow]

Never read the comments on YouTube.

[rancid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-gif-26162796

Opening the comments be like^

[amber wind]

It is a wretched hive of scum and villainy

[amber wind]

Yes this is just another symptom of what is wrong with society as a whole right now. Things have gotten pretty bad.

[real sparrow]

Things are not as bad as they might seem. We're living in a golden age of constant high-quality Star Wars content. The people making the most noise are both the least invested in the franchise and the most likely to just want to hurt others rather than enjoy things anyway. The way to win is to refuse to let them drive us away from the things we love and to keep inviting more people to share them with us.

[main ivy]

Always remember: These grifters make their living with these rage-bait videos that are tailor-designed to prey on the insecurities of specific demographics.

They and their followers are very loud, but if their opinion reflected the majority, we wouldn't still be getting a constant flood of new Star Wars content.

[distant delta]

I follow the Star Wars UK IG account, and their Acolyte posts have much less engagement but overwhelmingly positive. I’m not sure if they moderate more strictly or if there is a cultural dynamic going on

[grand stream]

Fun fact: Star Wars Theory initially praised the Sequel Trilogy films, but later deleted his videos where he said anything positive and "changed his mind.". What's more likely is that ragebait videos got more clicks and therefore more money.

I haven't watched any, but I wouldn't be surprised if his "reaction videos" to episodes are scripted. I'm not making an accusation or anything, I have no evidence to do so. Just wouldn't surprise me at this point.

[cinder oasis]

i love it. from the fight choreo to Sol's accent (cause he learned English just for this), it hits a very sentimental note in me when growing up Crouching Tiger was only the tip of the iceberg of kung fu movies i was watching. the rage frustrates me, but like wonderelf said, the loud ones clearly don't represent everyone... 🙂

[main ivy]

I just wish more people would watch things and form their own opinions rather than letting some YouTube talking head (who has made so much money on rage bait that he can afford a Lamborghini) decide it for them.

But the best we can do is keep this space positive and friendly.

[dense prawn]

I like his accent because it shows that, like Cassian, there are humans raised on planets that don’t use basic as their native language, and as such they learned basic later in life

And hints to the Jedi having a more relaxed posture on taking in kids older than babies, if he was old enough to have learned a different language before the Jedi took him in

[cedar kernel]

oh I like this, hadn't thought of it

[amber wind]

I'm definitely happy to have found this community to share the show with

[dense prawn]

Yeah I only thought of it because of a line I vividly remember from Ender’s Game. About how the whole planet had switched to teaching kids English, except the French who taught them French until the patterns set in so they have an accent while speaking English

So basic kind of feels like a second language to them, they explicitly show it in Andor

[amber wind]

I've seen Lee Jeong Jae discuss how hard he worked for this show in interviews. He practiced to the point that his face hurt from making sounds and pronunciations that don't exist in Korean or 'Konglish'. He's an amazing actor and you can see his heart was in it

Sol is probably my favorite Jedi now

I have a strong personal connection to Korea, too, so that might be part of it

[main ivy]

Sol is perfect and can do no wrong. I am not taking arguments at this time.

[cinder oasis]

Jimmus thinks it'd be a great twist if he ends up being the Master and has been secretly training both twins the whole time.

i think he's the Obi-wan type of Jedi and he wouldn't do such a thing

[main ivy]

Agree. He is too pure. And now he wants to redeem himself for not saving Mae by saving her in the present.

I can see him sacrificing himself for the sisters this time around.

But I really want him to survive 😭

[real sparrow]

They might still use basic. This is English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pit0OkNp7s8

[rocky tundra]

I mean yes, absolutely

But

What happened on Brendok

[main ivy]

It wasn't Sol's fault

[rocky tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-never-done-anything-wrong-ever-in-my-life-jenny-slate-i-know-this-and-i-love-you-parks-and-rec-gif-24063384

^Sol and his supporters. 😛

[dense prawn]

I’m gonna need a protocol droid to understand that lol

[tulip terrace]

You are taking this one. I AGREED! 😂

[tulip terrace]

For some reason, I kinda feel like it was more Indara’s decision than anyone else.

[cinder oasis]

between this and Squid Game, his career is going to the stratosphere. i'm so glad for him.

fun fact: his longtime girlfriend is the ex-wife of the Samsung chairman who went to jail. she's now VP of Daesang group which sometimes supplies to Costco.

hahaha i guess i should clarify. the younger current chairman, not the older one who was also convicted xD

[grand stream]

She was definitely in charge.

[amber wind]

Is this the thing about Park Geun Hye helping funnel funds to Samsung? I remember that happening while I was there

[tulip terrace]

And didn’t looked as guilty as the others when Mae attacked.

[modern laurel]

and I bet he's going to find out about whatever shameful thing the other Jedi did and blame himself for not preventing it or fixing it

[cinder oasis]

yepppppp that's the one 😂

[amber wind]

Yeah it was a good idea to stay away from the area around Seoul station during that. I worked in Gangnam at the time.

[grand stream]

As much as I like CAM, I'm questioning Indara's effectiveness as a Jedi.

[cinder oasis]

we like his girlfriend though. after she divorced Mr. Samsung, she publicly switched to an iPhone immediately 😂 i approve the pettiness and i liked her before i knew who he was.

[tulip terrace]

Same

[grand stream]

How many people were injured or killed before she acted in the noodle restaurant?

[real sparrow]

It seems like she didn't get involved until lethal force was used.

[grand stream]

I'll rewatch maybe.

https://x.com/Darren_Mooney/status/1805021103611371934

Darren Mooney (@Darren_Mooney) on X

A little known fact about Ki-Adi Mundi is that he lies about his birthday on every “Star Wars” production that he has appeared in, because he likes the crew to sing “Happy Birthday” to him and to serve him cake.

Twitter · Jun 23, 2024, 11:32 PM

[rocky tundra]

Also the shape of his head fits birthday party hats really well (provided they buy him the XL size party hat).

[mint kindle]

I'm a huge fan of watching things before judging, including fanmade videos.

Otherwise you get yourself all bothered by hearsay filled with assumptions.

[dense prawn]

My living room ceiling below my new bathroom shower now looks sort of like Smiley 🤦‍♂️

[cedar kernel]

https://tenor.com/bdZxN.gif

[gaunt atlas]

Don't tread rhythmically

[dense prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-villeneuve-sandworm-gif-27467812

[main ivy]

They know who the fans are ✨
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8og2hNK4rZ/?igsh=MW1wZ3htbTc1ZTZicA==

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Fandom is great. Pass it on.

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[tulip terrace]

Sharing it in my story 💜

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[rocky tundra]

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[clear orbit]

🤣

[tropic phoenix]

Thats not Pong Krell, so second worst

[barren oxide]

I didn’t even register it was him. I just thought it was another Cerean Jedi. Why do they keep reusing characters that appear somewhere else? It makes the galaxy small.

[rancid burrow]

Pong Krell was just following orders for the future of the Empire 🗿🗿

[rocky tundra]

In this particular situation, I think they picked him as a narrative choice.

I recall someone online describing Ki as a “reverse Cassandra”.

Instead of always being right and never being believed, Ki Adi Mundi is ‘never right, and always being believed’.

In the Prequels, he gets the lines like “the Sith have been extinct for a millennia’ and ‘Count Dooku’s not a murderer’.

Things that are just wrong, but that the Jedi assume to be correct.

Ki Adi Mundi serves as an example of the Jedi Council / Jedi Order not seeing the truth.

So the purpose of him being in this show is to once again narratively represent the Jedi not realizing what’s actually happening out there.

[modern laurel]

I definitely also see him as an example of their arrogance and complacency. He might even go as far to refuse any evidence of the Sith has not being real Sith, just some random force sensitives pretending to be Sith, like some kind of No True Scotsman argument

[shrewd vigil]

That reveal…

…I’m giving him a new name imma call him Darth Letdown

[grand stream]

...why?

[shrewd vigil]

Ok I will admit I do like his ability to temporarily shut off lightsabers with his armor is cool. The fight itself was also cool. But when that ridiculas helmet fell off I was like “YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!”

[grand stream]

The armor is and helmet is made of a type of metal from the old Expanded Universe called cortosis. Like beskar, cortosis can defend against lightsabers. Unlike beskar, it shorts out a saber temporarily.
But why that reaction? 95% of the fandom guessed that he was under the mask, while the other 5% thought it was somehow the Zabrak witch.

[real sparrow]

Why were you like that?

[mint kindle]

Where should I put this..
Because it's getting stuffy and I need to take it off
https://fixupx.com/yak_face/status/1805981094128255090?t=LLItjE9cknhZMpHOO9WGgg&s=19

Someone said "I want it but it will terrify me" and all I can think is I want it so I can give it little kiss on its nose.

[rancid burrow]

Only Available for $499 I bet lol

[tropic phoenix]

The helmets are usually nearly that much lol.

I know this because I have four. I have a problem.

[main ivy]

They're usually like $100-$150ish

[tropic phoenix]

Yea, the most expensive one I got was Vader's. Which is a bit more than the others in terms of what it is so a little pricier.

The others were between 100-130 (Din Djarin, Bo Katan, Clone Trooper)

I'd imagine that thing will be about even to one of the Mandalorian Helmets really.

[main ivy]

That's my guess as well.

Debating if I want it.

[vital oxide]

Of course you do

[main ivy]

I really want Marchion's

But we're unlikely to get that one

[main ivy]

Let me rephrase: of course I want it, but do I $100 want it?

[vital oxide]

Yes

[main ivy]

But also, cortosis makes my Legend-loving heart so happy

[tropic phoenix]

The only other time I really remember it being mentioned in current canon is one of the Thrawn books. Certainly the first live action of it.

Might get lucky and it goes on sale. And's how I got my clone helmet, was one of the black friday fire sales. So was like 70

[main ivy]

But also, I need to have funds available for when they release a Pip.

[main ivy]

Yeah, I might do this. They usually keep these in production for a couple of years at least.

[vital oxide]

Print a pip

[tropic phoenix]

Yea, just have to catch them in between the production runs early as the in demand ones are hard to get but it evens out in around a year then linger for awhile. Then they let it go OOS and re release lol.

If I had to pick one piece of merch I want so far its Kelnacca's lightsaber. But I'm not sure anything has 100% caught my eye yet.

[main ivy]

That requires actually setting up my 3d printer lol

[topaz fulcrum]

They did release Cardinal’s from the books

[main ivy]

Very true. Though I wonder if they would have without the GE tie-in or most importantly, the fact that it's essentially a repaint of the regular FO Stormtrooper

[mint kindle]

I think we caught Bo's for $50 maybe closer to $60 with tax.

She's so heavy.

Compared to our printed helmets.

I was looking at Pip earlier today and thought it would be really fun to go to a thrift store and make something similar with old found electronics.

Moved to Pip thread.

I definitely have plans for Smilo Ren's helmet.

But I am being good. Edit: To run around my neighborhood and be a friendly scary head.

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-april-ludgate-sips-tea-tea-tea-time-gif-21816989

$150 wouldn't be bad considering how much 3d printed can cost. $25 for file, $25 for roll, another $25 for a backup roll incase of failed print. Sander, filler, primer, toothpaste, paint, wash, foam, etc.

I just hate the idea of a heavy helmet.

Having a halo is nice though. We haven't figured out how to install a halo into our printed helmets yet.

[tulip terrace]

@heavy coyote Proper channel now

[heavy coyote]

so stuff that goes up for order/preorder goes here?? why?

[tulip terrace]

Wait! Let me tag it as spoiler

[tulip terrace]

Just because it’s a spoiler for a running show.

[heavy coyote]

but how is it a spoiler? it's a helmet

[tulip terrace]

Pre order item from Episode 5 is online.

[tulip terrace]

It is part of the show and it is on the embargo spoiler items.

Some people don’t want to even look at pictures or trailers before watching a show.

[gaunt atlas]

and because even a trailer thing can frequently lead to people having discussions and not paying attention to where they are and then suddenly it's all spoilery

[chrome wave]

How do I make something a spoiler before posting?

Well that didn’t work

[rocky tundra]

You spoil marked the words correctly just now.
To spoil mark a picture on the mobile app, you upload the picture, but before you hit send you click and hold on the picture. It should cause a menu to pop up that lets you check a box to spoil mark the photo.

If there’s a different way to do it on a laptop I don’t know, I’m only ever really on Discord through my phone.

[chrome wave]

Ah here we go. So I made this lol

[rapid lake]

Lmao

Been saying that since the reveal of his design but even more now that we've seen it's a bronzey color which is reminiscent of Denjis orange chainsaw form

[chrome wave]

Glad I’m not the only one that thought of it lol

[rapid lake]

I love Chainsaw Man so I clocked it fast

Even did a Power cosplay at my local (good) anime con this year

[chrome wave]

Where at?

My team and I frequently display itasha cars at anime conventions

[rapid lake]

Oh sorry didn't see this! It was at Anime Detour in Minneapolis

[vital oxide]

Christ Detour is still a thing?

[rapid lake]

Yup

They kinda are having some big drama with the board rn tho so might not be much longer

[vital oxide]

That happens like every decade

Happened when I was in college in 08 lol

Same with CONvergence

[rapid lake]

I see

[chrome wave]

Oh, we’ve mostly done east coast cons. We’re actually scheduled to show up in Canada for Otakuthon. Apparently it’s their biggest con.

[rapid lake]

Speaking of cons OMG @vital oxide Twin Cities Con just announced Hayden Christensen

[vital oxide]

NIIIIIIIICE

[rapid lake]

Yeah!!! Im gonna try to finish my mando for that con

[barren cipher]

This group >>>>>>>>> 🙂

[rancid burrow]

I just realized there’s no Purple welding Jedi here lol but then again Purple is a rare color to attain

[barren oxide]

Nick Fury has dibs on purple.

[barren cipher]

As long as it's someone who represents us I'm all for it 💯 😌

[rocky tundra]

Based on a half second shot from the trailer, it is extremely likely we will see a Jedi wield purple at some point in the next three episodes.

[rancid burrow]

Hopefully because I wanna see more Purple in my Star Wars 💜💜💜

[grand stream]

I mean, canonically we know it exists, the Jedi just hasn't had a reason to whip it out yet.

[rocky tundra]

We need the real world band Devo to visit the High Republic and sing one of their popular songs.
Provide some motivation.

[dense prawn]

Does coal exist in Star Wars for them to work in a mine for? 😝

[gaunt atlas]

there are lots of things to mine in SW

[grand stream]

Including drugs, which is a very bizarre concept the more you think about it. 🤣

[dense prawn]

True, working in the spice mine would fit in the Devo song

[real sparrow]

Do not think about how the drugs got there too hard.

[grand stream]

Kessel is made of drugs lol

[real sparrow]

The old EU stories set there are the stuff of nightmares.

"What if Dune but trapdoor spiders".

[dense prawn]

Devo music playing 24/7?

[rocky tundra]

Mix in some Kiner Brothers Star Wars music tracks to keep everyone guessing (but still dramatically motivated) and I think we’re good.

[dense prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-devil-futurama-it-burns-gif-4351342

[wanton radish]

"In this time of war, our spice is refined into a drug that saves lives across the galaxy."

That was said by King Aruba's majordomo in The Clone Wars Season 7, Episode 6. This means that the spice is not technically a drug until something is done to it (the refining).

[rocky tundra]

I think there are still restrictions on growing or bulk transporting breadseed poppies without a license, even though the flower itself is not technically a drug (until something is done to them).

[rancid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/deathsticks-gif-9026297

[short ether]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-please-please-thank-you-you-do-me-a-favour-kind-gif-12772389

[mint kindle]

So if you obsess enough (and have a mental breakdown ) you too can dream about The Acolyte!

Worth it.

[short ether]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-bush-hide-bye-gif-16150806

[rancid burrow]

One day we will see Sith Training like this in Live Action

[main ivy]

Wow, some jagoff really took the time to leave a rude gif comment on my Instagram post from the Acolyte theatrical preview. From a month ago. These people truly have no lives.

[real sparrow]

They really do not.

[main ivy]

Well I hope they find fulfillment in the future. In the meantime their comment is hidden and will get no acknowledgement from me 😂

[exotic marten]

Tomorrow the adventure continues. Flashback?

[dense prawn]

That would be my guess

[modern laurel]

yeah there's no point in engaging at all

[cinder oasis]

someone had commented to me something along the lines of "Caring about the story and characters just means I have standards.". to which i responded with "That's a pretty big ego you have to think your standards are the ones they care about.". i only stop myself from responding sometimes xD

[real sparrow]

I'd have to wonder why they think applying a standardised evaluation structure to the entirety of human expression is going to be a productive exercise, but I know that they aren't doing that and are just looking for a fight.

Plus then you get into the deeply stupid "objective art criticism" mines and due to the poor ventilation you lose braincells by the second.

[modern laurel]

Cavan Scott has made a few posts on his socials on the topic https://www.cavletter.com/thoughts-on-online-discourse/?ref=the-cavletter-newsletter

[rancid burrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/K-WA4g0n8Zs?si=24DT8GoidgHsc0-E

[main ivy]

as much as I love a good takedown, my time is valuable. if they want me to respond, they will need to pay me triple my normal hourly rate. otherwise, muted.

[mint kindle]

I vent on twitter then delete it because I don't want to invite more negativity.

Negativity attracts negativity.

[grave siren]

Send that loser an invoice for wasting your time having to read that stupid shit they commented

[cinder oasis]

for real. i think part of being an adult is acknowledging when these people aren't worth it haha cause as a kid, we fight everything.

[real sparrow]

I actually offered to explain to someone why they were wrong about something in my field that hit the mainstream news at home, and they were not impressed at how much I was charging.

They were even less impressed when I said that was just the standard day rate, and 50% of it was tax...

[barren oxide]

Going really off-topic now, but I once got in a fight with a friend because she didn’t update her Windows. She was afraid that Microsoft would take all her data. She thought she was safe because she had installed some anti-virus program.
I have a degree in computer science. I failed to convince how wrong that was in so many ways. She‘s a lawyer.

[real sparrow]

That's an interesting mashup of partial truths and misunderstandings of what anti-virus does.

[barren oxide]

I think it‘s all different manifestations of the Dunning-Kruger effect. It keeps getting more prevalent in society as the complexity of our surroundings increases.

[modern laurel]

Technology is changing our world faster than our monkey brains can adjust to it.

[real sparrow]

The context for my one was people claiming that the reason the Irish health service got hit with ransomware was running Windows XP.

Explaining why that is wrong is a rather detailed process.

[mint kindle]

IT'S ACOLYTE EVE!

[real sparrow]

No it's Acolyte Eve Eve!

We can't all stay up until morning just to watch it 😦

[mint kindle]

Awww

Us darn Americans. 😜

[mint kindle]

I'm so tired I just want to sleep and dream about The Acolyte.

[rancid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mae-aniseya-the-acolyte-leah-brady-star-wars-brendok-gif-15161842260409135921

Me patiently waiting

[mint kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/acolyte-sith-fly-enter-osha-gif-17339989067657030731

[grand stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sword-training-jecki-lon-star-wars-the-acolyte-practicing-swords-star-wars-gif-8774343191385686994

[rocky tundra]

#neverforget

[real sparrow]

That was such a horror movie shot.

[mint kindle]

Yesss.

I said hello my creepy boy I have a heart for you.

[vital oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-hermes-conrad-bender-raises-more-questions-gif-10141495

[real sparrow]

Magnesium cigar. Obviously, Hermes.

[real sparrow]

Also this shot is real interesting because it shows Jecki being ahead of her class in saber handling, but also nowhere near as good as she actually was when faced with real combat. She's good, but not showing off.

[mint kindle]

Ngl I got excited that you were talking to my favorite god until I made the very easy obvious connection.

[real sparrow]

Ah yeah, the get hype sudden sad cycle. Been there.

[grand stream]

https://tenor.com/view/obviously-snape-harry-potter-gif-5508473

[modern laurel]

I need work to stop working so I can finish this

[real sparrow]

Ah yes, the old "I need to stop doing work so I can do other work" problem.

[normal ridge]

found a pretty "interesting" reason for why the acolyte is bad XD

[rapid lake]

So just

Someone who doesn't know anything about star wars

[normal ridge]

basically idk what canon this guy is following but its none ive ever heard

[frail trail]

I feel like there’s a neurodivergent force field over that post. I can’t control my attention span to actually read it all without skipping parts or getting bored .

[rapid lake]

Fr tho

What I can gather is, he thinks the Sith ACTUALLY died out

Instead of hiding for 1000 years

Which btw, is not how old Yoda is

[rocky tundra]

It’s the canon of both not understanding, and also deliberately saying things they probably vaguely know are wrong in the hopes of upsetting people.

[normal ridge]

apparently yoda fought in the 7th battle of ruusan, darth bane never made the rule of two, sidious is a sith lord by accident, and everyone on the coucil lied about the sith being extinct XD

[grand stream]

I do feel like I've seen multiple people take the line literally which... just no. The modern Sith descend from Bane and his rule of two (how much of this will remain canon no idea) but damn near always has been for as long as thats been a thing. also, even just going off the movies, Darth Plagueis

[dense prawn]

That’s ignoring the “sith love to have their existence know”

[grand stream]

You haven't heard of SithCon? Held every year on Coruscant, right next to the Jedi Temple of course ;)

[rapid lake]

One of the most iconic lines of Yoda is "when 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not"... and they said in the prequels that the Sith had been gone for 1000 years...

So he literally just didn't pay attention lol

[rapid lake]

That too

I don't think this guy actually likes star wars that much

[normal ridge]

the whole palpatine just stumbled across a sith holocron and temple is what gets me the most

Like where the hell did sheev palpatine, noble boy from naboo just happen across a sith holocron and somehow know how to use it even

[rapid lake]

I mean honestly? I kinda like that as a story idea... for a different character

[normal ridge]

Arguably most evil Sith Lord in existence is only evil on accident XD

[rapid lake]

Someone stumbling on a sith holocron and accidentally unlocking it with latent force powers...

Maybe way post TROS

[main ivy]

My dude forgot about one of Maul's 3 lines of dialogue how could he

https://tenor.com/view/at-last-revenge-darth-maul-maul-gif-10218391071380100362

[normal ridge]

I can see them doing something like that past the sequel trilogy most because the Jedi are only 1 and the sith essentially don’t exist

[rapid lake]

Just for a fanfic tho not like, officially

[rapid lake]

Lol

[normal ridge]

I had this whole thing typed out before I realized, this already happened

During banes line no less

that kind of thing pretty much happened to darth vectivus

[rapid lake]

Ah interesting

I'm reading up on him

[real sparrow]

I regularly forget that Maul had dialogue in that movie TBH. But also I feel like he's not been 100% given the truth by Sheev. No real reason for that, just a gut feeling I've got that Sheev isn't trustworthy.

[rapid lake]

Yea I don't think he was fully privy until the Clone Wars?

[real sparrow]

Maul or Sheev? :p

[rapid lake]

Maul

[normal ridge]

if darth plagueis is anything to go by then no maul didnt know the truth 100%.
i believe there was one part of the book from mauls point of view where he wondered where he would fit into the galaxy after the grand plan was successful.

which i mean. yeah do you really expect to see this dude walking down the road peacefully let alone in a political setting?

[real sparrow]

Oh yeah, in both canons Maul didn't know everything until far too late.

But in the old EU Maul didn't even know that he was the third living Sith.

[normal ridge]

hell he was barely even a sith lord in the EU. dude pretty much only knew killing and combat

but to be fair that was the norm for the sith for how long?

[real sparrow]

That's why KOTOR II is so interesting. Kreia's stories about the old Sith and her utter contempt for the current ones is real interesting.

Like even four thousand years earlier she regarded them all as small and petty beings.

[main ivy]

In b4 @rocky tundra shows up to yell about Kreia being right

[mint kindle]

Have you tried reading it backwards?

[mint kindle]

But the Stranger is hiding. At least he is trying to.

Thinking Palpatine is the only Sith ever having tried to hide is not an idea I'd go with.

But it is interesting to see what others come up with!

[real sparrow]

Honestly one of the weakest parts of that game is not letting you go "huh, you're right" and just wipe out the force.

The dark side endings are always non-canon, so why not have an ending that results in a blackscreen?

[frail trail]

I’ll try that next.

[mint kindle]

Lol. You don't have to.

But it usually helps me.

[main ivy]

Lol I don't think it's worth the effort

[normal ridge]

I did include a tldr here

[rocky tundra]

While the idea of “make this choice, screen go black because all life/reality dies” is interesting, I think it would have given more validity to Kreia’s plan than it deserved.

The impression I always got was that (despite some knowledge being gained about how force wounds work via the Exile’s experiences) Kreia hadn’t actually figured out how to destroy the Force.

Because despite being right about some things @main ivy , she was also off her rocker about many others.

The Force is guilty of many things (look what it did to the Aniseya twins) but the idea that one mortal life contained within its web could find the destruction switch is…well, Sith hubris.

And as we all know about the Sith

https://tenor.com/view/luke-skywalker-overconfidence-weakness-cocky-star-wars-gif-9017819

[grand stream]

I don't think the Force plays favorites. It just wanted a Chosen One to get rid of Palpatine less because of the overwhelming evil and more because Palpatine was trying to twist the Force in ways that even the ancient Sith would've said "Whoa buddy, that's not cool"

[rocky tundra]

Oh I agree. What I meant by “look what it did to the twins” is that they came out so polarized.
One naturally light leaning, the other naturally dark leaning.
Which I don’t think was psychologically healthy for either of them.

[grand stream]

We'll see. I have concerns about the validity of some of the interactions with the twins in Episode 3. I've come to the conclusion that we shouldn't trust anything we saw in that flashback. Well, almost anything.

https://tenor.com/view/ahsoka-tv-show-loth-cat-ahsoka-ahsoka-series-star-wars-gif-13918476219194826550

Lookit the adorable spaceship

[rocky tundra]

That’s fair.
I think it’s 50/50 as to whether anything we saw was outright false, or if what we saw was all true, but the gaps being filled in will reveal how different the true story is.

But yes I also hope Osha still called the tooka a spaceship in the true story lol.

[grand stream]

https://tenor.com/view/questions-i-have-questions-anna-princess-anna-frozen2-gif-16464723

[rocky tundra]

Answers should be forthcoming in checks clock five and a half more days.

[grand stream]

Or will we just end up with MORE questions?

[rocky tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-very-possible-easy-achievable-workable-basic-gif-13251044

[real sparrow]

Kreia's logic is interesting, but it'd require a lot more persuading people to repress the force than is likely. I think Nihilus was more likely to succeed in Kreia's goal by simply eating all life.

[rocky tundra]

I agree more likely to succeed than her, but also still likely to fail at eating the whole galaxy given that the hunger would have eventually outpaced his ability to satiate it.
“It devours him as he devours others.”

[real sparrow]

There are also more galaxies to eat.

[grave siren]

Whenever she talked, I'd immediately think Qui-Gon's "the ability to speak does not make you intelligent" bar. She drops gems here and there, but for the most part she's just a certified yapper

She's a bitter, jaded and delusional bozo. The most ironic (and hilarious) summarization of her life is being upset that both the jedi and the sith weren't as deferential to her as she felt she was entitled to

[rocky tundra]

The main talking point she had that resonated for me was the idea that the force, while being the manifestation of all life in Star Wars and basically the Chi of the universe, was not really an inherently benevolent or good thing.
Even on the light side.

Also the idea that force sensitive people are in fact inherently weaker because they train/are taught to rely on the force for their strength and superpowers, and when it’s gone they can’t cope.

We saw that with Sol.
A non force sensitive person might have caught on to Mae faster, because a normal person relies on visual cues more than a spiritual sense to read people.

[grave siren]

I somewhat agree! I think force users tend to rely heavily on the invisible, at the cost of seeing what's truly in front of you. Qui-Gon made a similar point on the Trade Fed ship in TPM, "Be conscious of the future, but not at the expense of the moment"

[real sparrow]

She definitely liked to feel important by making people ask her to explain herself, but when she did finally get to the point she was hard to prove wrong. She just narrowed her scope so tightly that it was essentially irrelevant.

[mint kindle]

I can't believe we are so close to another episode!

[rancid burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-maul-patience-wait-be-patient-gif-25462637

[shrewd vigil]

XD as a Series black hemet collector. How do they make it Laughably stupid and yet somehow intimidating at the same time?

[shrewd vigil]

Also Possibly $150 at most

Also why isn't it black

[rocky tundra]

Because it’s cortosis.

[shrewd vigil]

True but Spray paint is canon soooo...

[rocky tundra]

Yeah but it’s a brittle metal and it’s been frequently repaired.

He probably doesn’t want to waste time on painting and repainting.

[shrewd vigil]

Also I dont like what they did with the eyes. I know this isn't the fine product as it says at the botton but they aren't a perfect replicant

[frail trail]

They want you to see out of it.

You saw the POV.

[real sparrow]

Yeah, they know that people are going to try incorporating it into cosplay, and there's no way to do that safely for an event.

[amber wind]

It's for the plebs who can't see with the force

Unlike the rest of us. Right?

[rocky tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-gif-24474700

[shrewd vigil]

Ok I'll take that one.
I was gonna say the realism is why the black helmets are so cool but I can respect taht one

[amber wind]

For the muggles

[shrewd vigil]

AHHHHHHHH

[amber wind]

Wrong fandom?

[rocky tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-cross-the-streams-ghostbusters-gif-14635781

Jk
I just wanted to use the meme

[amber wind]

Wouldn't look very cool in your Smilo Ren cosplay if you kept bumping into doors

[rocky tundra]

“I can’t see a thing in this helmet” only works on a film set when you have stagehands helping you not walk into stuff.

[mint kindle]

It does look significantly different in the middle. But maybe that's the angle.

[amber wind]

I was just noticing that too. The actual prop looks longer and more narrow in the face

The narrow part could be that angle of the closeup vs the high depth of field render of the product

[shrewd vigil]

Actually there is somethign cool I did notice abotu the show. I can't imagine I'm the first person to notice this/point it out but I'm going to anyway. I do like how they show this is taking place in the past. When It comes to star wars and how advanced the technology is, How do you make it take place in the far past in a visual sense?

They gave it a 50's vibe to the sets

Like look at the set of the ship.

Look at the colors, the blues, the oddly shapped furniture. This looks like star wars if it took place in its own iteration of the 50's.

Even in other locations. Theres more colors, Places are more populated in familiar places.

Hell pip is brightly colored and looks like a scyfy robot toy from the 50's.

They found a way to maintain a modern technological world by giving it an identity during a time we can relate to that had experiemnted with technology in the real world.

[shrewd vigil]

No i really like that comparison

[wanton radish]

In Season 6 of The Clone Wars which is canon, and probably always will be, Yoda encounters the ghost of Darth Bane, and they talk about the Rule Of Two. So, yes it is canon. I believe Disney is powerless to erase that detail at this point. SOOOO many other shows are rooted in that series.

[rancid burrow]

The Rule of Two will always be Canon it’s even in the books and comics published by Disney and Lucasfilm

https://tenor.com/view/master-yoda-always-two-there-are-gif-20070062

https://tenor.com/view/sith-will-rule-the-galaxy-star-wars-gif-12339176

[grand stream]

The Rule of Two exists. An apprentice teaching their own apprentice, an ACOLYTE, if you will, doesn't break the Rule of Two because they are not Sith.

[rocky tundra]

Also in the Legends novels (Plagueis, the Bane Trilogy) the Banite Sith kept bending or breaking the Rule of Two whenever it suited them…before going back to following it when it suited them.

Sith Lords having multiple apprentice candidates, or apprentices having acolytes/apprentices, or there being wannabe-Sith or cast-out apprentices wandering the galaxy doesn’t mean The Rule of Two isn’t canon.

It just means Sith are messy hypocrites.

Which should really not be a surprise to anyone.

[dense prawn]

The entire inquisitors thing is 100% breaking the rule, much less making clones of yourself

[rancid burrow]

Truee but the Inquisitors are kinda weak in my opinion since they’re not really Sith and are not hard to kill just to serve to be Vader’s grunts lol

[dense prawn]

Ventress was kind of the same situation, she was never really a Sith, just Dooku’s assassin

[rancid burrow]

But she’s still much very powerful and alive for now 😬

[tulip terrace]

Alive. I still have questions about it. 😂

[wanton radish]

Yeah. Didn't we get told that her appearance in The Bad Batch would align with Dark Disciple? cough cough I'm looking at you, Filoni!

[rancid burrow]

[tulip terrace]

Yes, but we haven’t been told how she came back.

[wanton radish]

Exactly.

[rancid burrow]

I like Ventress so I don’t mind if she’s not supposed to be alive plus we need more Female Dark Side characters on screen 💯

[real sparrow]

"Powerless" is ignoring how often the franchise has been retconned even prior to Disney buying it. People will complain. That might be enough to make Disney change course.

[tulip terrace]

I’m guessing they will use a line from the last chapter that says that ||she will be reborn after entering the Dathomir waters. || (book spoiler)

Not an exact quote

[real sparrow]

And yet... here we are. 40 years on and there's a whole movie canonising a lie Han Solo told.

[grand stream]

What's that?

[grand stream]

I wouldn't say she's "Dark Side" any more. Not really Light Side either. She's on the Ventress Side. lol

[rancid burrow]

The lie about “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster” ?

[rancid burrow]

Ventress Side 🗿

[grand stream]

....that's not a lie from Han's perspective at the time. For him, the Jedi have been gone for 19 years. And given that most of the Order were mowed down by clones with blasters, you can kinda see why he might believe that. He wasn't around during the height of the Jedi.

[gaunt atlas]

no character in SW is omniscient. a truth to their viewpoint and experience doesn't make it a universal truth.

[rancid burrow]

That’s true but every time I watch that scene I’m like Obi-Wan can literally strike him down right now if he wanted to lmfaoo

[grand stream]

That's why the camera shifts to Obi-Wan smirking at the entire exchange.

[rocky tundra]

Are you talking about Han rounding down the number of parsecs it took to make the Kessel Run?

Or is it some other lie he told?

[rancid burrow]

Obi-Wan is him Indeed 🗿

[real sparrow]

That he's even using parsecs as a measure at all.

It's even in the script direction that Obi-Wan knows he's bullshitting to make himself seem more valuable.

[rocky tundra]

Didn’t someone in some source book come up with the “oh the run is measured in distance” meta explanation for the parsec line?

Not saying it was a needed explanation (because yes the explanation should have been “Han Solo is full of it that’s the character”) but I thought they came up with that unnecessary explanation well before the Solo movie.

[real sparrow]

Yeah, it was in the novels at some point where they explained the Maw and how the Falcon was risking getting caught in black holes but didn't because it's so great.

Then Disney wiped that away.

Then went "actually what if that, but also another tentacle monster?"

[rocky tundra]

Aw the summa-verminoth was a fun design though.

[wanton radish]

One line from that episode says it all: "I have been many things over the years, but I am not your enemy."

[grave siren]

In all honesty I think the explanation in Solo is pretty spot-on for Han's personality. He did run the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs because he took a short cut. The Kessel Run is insanely long, and is encircled with astronomical anomalies and lovecraftian monsters. Obi-Wan doesn't believe him because he knows just how assumingely impossible it is to run it and survive. Even though he did run it in 12 parsecs, he left out the part that the Falcon was pushed far beyond it's limits, and they were one poorly-timed maneuver away from becoming a snack. There's tons of fun little moments throughout the OT of Han's arrogance, everyone around him usually brushes it off because they assume (sometimes correctly) that he's BSing. I've always viewed the response Han got from his more exaggerated tales as "Boy Who Cried Wolf"

[rancid burrow]

Ye it’s still a impressive achievement for him and the Falcon

[grave siren]

The same could be said for Luke during the trench run. "Some random, teenage, wannabe pilot from a desolate wasteland managed to destroy the Death Star by shooting a tiny photon torpedo through an even smaller hole?". I think the only reason most folks even believed Luke is because thousands of beings were there to witness it first-hand

[wanton radish]

??? Is there more than 1 way to get to the surface of Kessel? Trace Martez didn't seem to have any problem doing it, and she visited Kessel the VERY FIRST TIME she piloted a starship!

[main ivy]

Yeah. But navigating through uncharted routes in the Maw is super dangerous

[grave siren]

Martez wasn't running it while being chased by the Empire. They accidentally drifted into a military lane (I think) and Yularen was going to blow them outta orbit. The only reason he didn't was because Anakin was also onboard the Venator, and sensed Ahsoka's presence on the Martez ship. He then ordered Yularen to stand down

[wanton radish]

But that was on Coruscant. Yularen and Anakin were presumably gathering ships for their next assignment (probably taking back the Anaxes Shipyards, based on the chronological viewing order). Trace, Rafa, and Ahsoka were on their way to Kessel, but they hadn't actually jumped to hyperspace yet.

[grave siren]

Ahh yeah you're right! I'm getting my timelines mixed up.

[grave siren]

Either way, it was smooth sailing for Martez because she wasn't being chased by the Empire while also carrying a highly volatile, actively destabilizing hyperfuel with a concerning short half-life. Solo was tasked with smuggling some unrefined Coaxium, which becomes more volatile the longer it stays in its unstable state. Han spontaneously decided to take the short cut, which turned out to be an even worse gamble than he originally thought. The only thing that saved their lives was using some of the coaxium to outrun the anomales. In classic Han fashion, he made sure to leave that part out when he mentioned the 12 parsecs thing

The Falcon alone wasn't enough to push through the short cut. The coaxium changed those odds, yet the Falcon took near-fatal beating

[wanton radish]

Good point. If I remember correctly, that scene was shortened due to total runtime concerns. I have the double-Blu-Ray edition. The second disc has the original version of the scene (assuming I'm remembering correctly). The reason I'm not sure is that there are about 5 scenes over the course of the movie that were heavily edited to make the movie a more acceptable length. I can't quite remember if that's one of them.

The only one I remember clearly is the fight between Han and Chewie on Mimban. Honestly, I liked the longer one better.

[grave siren]

Dude the cinematography was amazing! One of my favorite sequences was the Battle of Mimban. Felt like a mix between All Quiet on the Western Front and Band of Brothers. It's how I'd envision a live-action TCW would look

To bring it back to the HR, I think it'd be rad to have a HR anthology series (a different story set in a different time during the HR each season). Would be an awesome way to showcase the HR! Having a live action adaptation of certain stories of the Republic-Nihil conflict, filmed similar to Band of Brothers, would be effing sick

[wanton radish]

Oh, no, not that. The extended scene didn't change anything about the battle. It just added semi-Shyriwook from Han, extra punches, and more taunts from the mudtroopers. It didn't include the battle itself.

[grave siren]

Ahh I see I see! Still pretty gnarly!

[real sparrow]

Most of those witnesses didn't exactly survive to be fair.

[grave siren]

Ahh I didn't mean the folks on the Death Star who got deep fried! I meant most of the rebel alliance witnessed it haha

I always try to imagine how the average galactic citizen would react to considerably major events in the galaxy. Hearing the stories of space wizards, distant worlds getting turned into glass, etc

[real sparrow]

Shrug and move on.

[grave siren]

Imagine the senatorial judicial committees investigating the events of the Acolyte. Seeing an ambitious senator using the moment to grandstand for more oversight and control over the Jedi order:

"Although the Jedi have proven time and again of their loyalties to our republic, what's stopping one from once again going rogue, and using their abilities to tear the fabric of our republic, just as this serial killer Qimir? How do we police the police of our republic?"

[dense prawn]

It’s not an unfounded fear really, a majority of the big threats that arose to challenge the republic were Jedi gone bad

[real sparrow]

Yeah in retrospect it was always the Jedi if it wasn't the Mandalorians.

And then it turned out to be Jedi who had put the Mandalorians up to it half the time.

[dense prawn]

Yep, I think it’s still canon but the Sith were a race of humanoids that a group of dark Jedi found, and then like every iteration of the Sith from that point on after the Jedi think they’ve stamped them out has been a new fallen Jedi’s taking up the mantle

You’d think after like the eleventy billionth Sith war people would catch on that the source was always the Jedi lol, but then again we may be seeing with Vern trying to sweep this under the rug how they got away with it

[grave siren]

Very good point! I think another issue is that the general public fairly considers any force-user they encounter as a Jedi, which certainly isn't doing the public reception of the Order any favors. The ambitious senators know it's low-hanging fruit; weaponizing such claims as a way to justify additional oversight and control over the Jedi Order as a whole. Seeing it from this angle kinda justifies why the Jedi may have decided to sweep certain things under the rug. They were aware of the subtle shifts from autonomous peacekeepers towards subjugation as the Republic's fist. Sure any Jedi whistleblowers are subjectively moving with great intentions of preserving accountability within the Order, but it's this desperate desire of upholding said accountability that placed the PT Jedi Order in a precarious position.

In our universe, governments and other entities may purposely withhold information that could potentially disrupt/dismantle/compromise our security and peace of mind.

If the general public were to discover any classified, damning info involving the Jedi, it could erode the Jedi's task of being peacekeepers. There should certainly be acknowledgments of wrong doing in tandem with accountability, but some things are just better left unsaid.

[dense prawn]

Yeah I think that’s why they called the war Revan and Malek started the “Jedi civil war” because the general public thought force user = Jedi

It doesn’t help their case if they’re seemingly hunting down other force using groups like the witches

[barren cipher]

https://youtu.be/jS9mPrbBRYs?si=ca0v57nBAc2uJESH

Can this guy ever stop crying, it was a glitch. Show is bombed and BOMB anyways

[gaunt atlas]

Show is bombed and BOMB?

[barren cipher]

Review bombed and bomb as in good

[rancid burrow]

They removed the Audience score??
Why would they do that 🤔

[barren cipher]

It's up for me, if you don't like the show just say so

[rancid burrow]

I just checked right now and I guess it was a glitch lol

It shows it for me

[barren cipher]

See! Lol, but this show has done more for the community and my people than I could have wished for. Praying for more seasons

[rancid burrow]

This show is the most expensive one so maybe it might have a Season 2

[cedar kernel]

I believe Andor had a higher S1 productioin cost

like ~250 mil vs Acolytes 180 mil

[barren cipher]

4 extra episodes though

[real sparrow]

Places remove public interaction when the evidence of bot-driven campaigns is too obvioust o ignore.

[gaunt atlas]

But in this case it was just a glitch anyway

[rancid burrow]

It was a glitch but at first I thought it was real because I remembered when YouTube removed the Dislike count

[floral stump]

Is it just me or does Osha have a BTS tattoo? 🤣

[gaunt atlas]

https://x.com/kate_the_clown/status/1810706586928587117

Kate || Missing TBB (@Kate_the_clown) on X

I’m Vernestra from #TheAcolyte and you’re watching Disney+

Twitter · Jul 9, 2024, 4:04 PM

[modern laurel]

As much as they've had that tat visible on screen, it's gotta mean something. Otherwise they would have had makeup cover it up.

[gaunt atlas]

I thought it was going to be a "how to tell them apart" plot point. But Mae has the forehead spiral and we saw her cutting her hair, so that didn't matter.

[floral stump]

I think it’s actually a Gemini symbol for the twins.

[modern laurel]

that would make sense

[quaint willow]

They said in the 1st episode the tat was a symbol of her mechanics job I thought

[rocky tundra]

It was a tattoo she got while out on the town with her fellow mechanics.

They got drunk presumably and goaded each other into a tattoo parlor.

Like you do.

My headcanon is Osha picked a pair of wings because the Jedi symbol has wings, and her drunk mind was unconsciously drawn to it.

[gaunt atlas]

It is. But if you look up the BTS logo, it's pretty similar. Lol

[mint kindle]

That's hilarious. It's SO close.

Imma pretend it's exact and that she's a fan.

[grand stream]

I'm now picturing her in a drunken stupor, pointing at it and slurring "I like dat one, 's purty"

[real sparrow]

It reminds me of something else but I can't remember what.

[main ivy]

It's pretty similar to the Hawkeye symbol

[real sparrow]

That might be it. My brain itch says it has something to do with the Wargame series of games.

[forest tangle]

Does everyone in this show walk at an angle with one shoulder always leading the other so that they have to shuffle along, while hiding one hand behind their back?

[dense prawn]

Bazil doesn’t

[grand stream]

https://x.com/black_tym/status/1812916119088603585

𓆙ꪻꪗ (@black_tym) on X

Yall 😭 the fight coordinator had to tell Manny's stunt double to workout more because Manny's arms were getting so toned

Twitter · Jul 15, 2024, 6:24 PM

https://x.com/StarWarsExplain/status/1812913597166874768

Star Wars Explained (@StarWarsExplain) on X

The stunt team that worked on #TheAcolyte also orchestrated the Vader hallway scene in Rogue One

(via @starwars )

Twitter · Jul 15, 2024, 6:14 PM

[gaunt atlas]

I also read that Joonas did his own fighting stunts because he was the only one that fit in the suit

[rocky tundra]

We heart you Joonas.

Thank you for doing all the things.

And cooking the frying pan salad.

[gaunt atlas]

And being fantastic in front of a crowd which is an entirely different skill than acting which not all the SW actors have.

[grand stream]

Also potentially of note, the SW Twitter account has called it a season finale. That's purposeful word choice. Chances for a season 2 are non-zero.

[grand stream]

https://x.com/StarWarsExplain/status/1812948827391029292

Star Wars Explained (@StarWarsExplain) on X

Yord Fandar is a character from one of Leslye Headland's old Star Wars TTRPG games! RIP #YordHorde

Twitter · Jul 15, 2024, 8:34 PM

[rocky tundra]

TTRPG Yord Fandar: “I LIVE AGAIN!”
The Stranger: snaps Yord’s neck
TTRPG Yord Fandar: “…Darnit!”

[short ether]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-rotflmao-laughing-crying-silly-gif-14972329

[cinder oasis]

so that's why he's a bit of a himbo haha as a woman, that's how many of my male characters in my book come off

[real sparrow]

It totally explains why he's ripped as shit and showing the whole party how ripped he is.

[grand stream]

All those points in strength, not enough left for charisma 😂

[mint kindle]

And yet

A nat 1 is a nat 1

No bonuses

[cinder oasis]

it's hard to put points in charisma when all the females around you were raised like sisters or they're lesbians/bi (coughJecki) or both 😂

[real sparrow]

Eh, I think there was a pretty even split there between Str and Cha. Shame about the minimal Con hurting the roll to survive a Coup de Grace attack though.

[mint kindle]

Dex

Should have invested in a dex save charged ring or luck.

[real sparrow]

Dex won't help in them editions.

[grand stream]

I wouldn't say it was a coup de grace, he was conscious.

[real sparrow]

You don't have to be unconscious for 3.X Coup de Grace, you just have to be helpless.

[quaint willow]

Speaking of charisma

https://youtu.be/gC52U3NtEB4?feature=shared

[barren oxide]

Hmmm…That could explain the body count….

[near peak]

I don’t know if anyone here made the joke that Osha’s name made sense for her because she does dangerous work but it’s funny

[rocky tundra]

It has been remarked upon.

But we can remark upon it again and chuckle.

https://tenor.com/view/b-white-ready-laughter-gif-14948274

[craggy coral]

So I would like to point out something I hear people keep complaining about & really shouldn’t. People are complaining that Disney odviously changed Ki-Adi Mundi’s age making one of the “big talking points why Disney ruined Star Wars”.
I would love to point out in the Original Star Wars or now known as A New Hope, Ben Kenobi was supposed to be like in his last 70’s to 80’s to be the ancient Jedi monk & Luke & Leia was supposed to be 25 to almost 30, yet because George Lucas changed the timeline in the early 2000’s with the Prequels by only making the time between Revenge of the sith when Kenobi was only about 30 to 35 years old, to A New Hope only 20 years apart, Luke & Leia were jumped down to only 19 years old each & Ben in A New Hope is apparently only about 55 years of age, so once again, Disney only did what George did with Star Wars.
Plus not to mention force sensitives always were known to age longer then their common species counterparts.

[amber wind]

Doesn't KAM's previous age come from a book? Lucas was always overwriting EU canon. Live action media has always taken priority over other media when establishing what is canon.

[real sparrow]

It comes from a old Dorling Kindersley book, many of which had a lot of leeway.

Sorry, incorrect, a Del Rey book.

[frail trail]

My understanding was it came from that CD

[real sparrow]

I may be biased towards hardcopy media just a smidge.

[dense prawn]

Yeah the poor dudes whose workspace is inside the barrel of a super weapon don’t even get a railing

Nor the people who work on the death star’s tractor beam

[rocky tundra]

Regardless of how things go down in their future, I feel it’s safe to say that Qimir cares more about Osha right now than the Empire ever cared about its Death Star techs.

So it makes sense Osha gets some railings, and they get none.

[dense prawn]

Those dudes didn’t even get eye protection, the empire didn’t even spend money for some goggles

I also wonder if they’re somehow vital to firing the weapon or if it’s just like “oh crap they’re powering up the laser, everyone move to the walls, this isn’t a drill”

Stop doing the emperors taxes and make sure you don’t get vaporized

[quick drum]

Literally, those poor bastards just need to take one step the wrong way and boom, superheated

Although, knowing how the Empire designs stuff, them interrupting the beam would probably blow up the whole Death Star. 🙂

[dense prawn]

True, probably why they don’t have desks. It would be a pain to try to clear your desk at a moments notice so your workspace doesn’t get turned to plasma

Oh crap, I forgot to save my excel file…and it’s gone

Laser’s charging up and your computer is stuck at this screen 😱

[quick drum]

"Barry! Get the computer out of there!"
"I've been exporting this all day!"

[eternal path]

Yeah. I agree with you. Everything that came out for all the movies (novels, visual dictionaries, etc.) was even wiped after Disney purchased Lucasfilm even though they were released alongside them originally. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[obtuse carbon]

There were also some trading cards that showed his age during the Clone Wars

[mint kindle]

Not sure if it has been mentioned but Box Lunch has a few Acolyte Funko characters.

[wanton radish]

I remember someone said that they changed the way Mae fell between the 2 flashbacks. They said that in Episode 3, Sol ran in an immediately grabbed Osha and let Mae fall, whereas in Episode 7, he held on the two platforms until he ran out of strength and then let Mae fall. Not entirely true. I just compared the two flashbacks. They used camera angle trickery. Technically, it was possible that Sol was holding onto the platforms in Episode 3 and you just couldn't see him on screen until Mae fell. It's quite likely that that was on purpose. They probably didn't show that part in Episode 3 because the sequence with Sol's misconduct wasn't included in that version flashback, and the whole point of that scene was that Sol's mind was clouded.

[wanton radish]

What is this GIF from? It looks familiar. My brain says George Of The Jungle, but that sounds wrong.

[rocky tundra]

You’re correct, it is from George Of The Jungle.

[real sparrow]

I would love to see people who complain about this watch Rashomon.

[gaunt atlas]

People did not grasp the concept that Ep3 was flawed memories, while Ep7 is the reality. This whole show was unreliable narrators, whether it was deliberate lying or remembering wrong.

[dense prawn]

I did say that scene looked different between the two episodes, but also said it was probably differences in how that moment was being recalled and wondered if it was the version of the story Sol told Osha. And I wasn’t ever complaining about it, just noting the differences and what implications that might have for the story

[gaunt atlas]

yeah, it was deliberately different.

[obtuse carbon]

What Aniseya said, what Mae says she said. They did a good job showing that in real time

[tulip terrace]

Found this very useful for anyone that wants to dive it. Many different ways suggested on the video.
https://youtu.be/R9MTvfnwK6E?si=hg7TSeOxE58qewi6

[cinder oasis]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8-ofwQSZRs/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Instagram

@mint kindle looks like you need to watch again with audio description

[mint kindle]

Decided to make a mess.

[grand stream]

No new Acolyte episode...but new Acolyte figures arrived!!!!!

[real sparrow]

Oh wow, Jecki looks real good.

[tulip terrace]

I’m waiting patiently for mines!

So weird how they are releasing them.

[wanton radish]

I'm having trouble identifying those. From left to right: IDK, Osha's bleeding crystal, IDK, Cortosis helmet, Brendok eclipse (maybe?)

[mint kindle]

Thumb is purple with gold for the coven, middle is a terrible excuse for a dot paint spiral. They already smudged off. So I get the chance to redo it better... or worse lol

The helmet is my favorite. I wish I had more colors to work with like a darker blue, brown, copper or rose gold.

[grand stream]

A friend ordered them from Amazon and says that they're showing September and October. O_o

[mint kindle]

They all got worse instead of better! I think the spiral improved though. Having shaky hands is not always the best.

[mint kindle]

Rewatching the season

[barren oxide]

Whoever is with Queen Amidala has fallen over. And the Cal lightsaber looks even bigger when you’re the one holding it. 😛

[mint kindle]

It's the awkward angle!! And I'm small.

Ani fainted.

[main ivy]

They are feeding us for real: https://www.starwars.com/news/sdcc-2024-lucasfilm-reveals

[tulip terrace]

That Art of THR 😱😱😱

[main ivy]

I might be most excited about this one

[tulip terrace]

Yes, and yes

[wanton radish]

I was mainly just waiting for the Marvel Kelnacca one-shot to see if we got an explanation of the coven iconography being in Kelnacca's hut and why he didn't fight back. But now I guess we get more!

[tulip terrace]

YES!!!!!!

[cinder oasis]

idk where to share this.... so
https://fixupx.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1816628999268782251?t=DZYZJpV7JW1jStFM9tNUig&s=19

[tulip terrace]

Here is good!

[amber wind]

Nice more Acolyte stuff! I hope they confirm season 2 soon

[craggy coral]

Something I want to point out since it's not well known, but ever since Disney's aquisition of Star Wars, & same with MCU and other content, typically they have a a ranking scale of how projects would take priority as far "reliable canon material to base off of" where if something like a character's age is rewritten in a new project, it'll only take prioity based on the type of media that it comes from. That being

1. Movies, anything from any Star wars Movies are the final say
2. Live Action shows are secondary & are just about as reliable information wise on what is & isnt canon.
3. Animated Shows which can be overwritten by the live action context but typically mirriors Shows but at the end would not if the movies says otherwise.
4. Story driven Video Games which would include the main story from the Jedi Fallen Order & Survivor games, the Battlefront 2 "Inferno Squad" story & yes even Outlaws. This doesn't include Lego games or spinoff games like Star Wars Commander unless the movies or Shows make a direct refrence from those said games. Any games before 2015 is shaky ground, but many references from The Force Unleashed, & Jedi Academy games have been referenced such as Rahm Kota, The Sith from Force Unleashed, & groups of course like the Inquisitors.
5. Novels/Comics are on the same level as far as continuity but have been some of the most retconned material in both legends & canon books & comics from both under George Lucas & by Disney such as how Caleb Dume experienced Order 66 was changed from the Kanan comics to what we saw in The Bad Batch as well as obviously the Thrawn trilogy explaining the Clone Wars to how George Lucas made the Clone Wars in the prequels.
6. Online forms which rarely never is used in any sort of canon or legends content.

[grave siren]

Ironically, this was somewhat how canon was ranked prior to the disney/star wars acquisition. If we're being honest I never cared too much about minor ret-cons. Star wars is notorious for having unreliable narrators + different POVs, which adds another level of realism to AGGA. I've come to believe that legends content is just another interpretation for how certain events occurred from varying points of view. Same for how everyone interprets major events differently in our own galaxy

I probably sound like a broken record, but the folks who're genuinely bothered over fictional events from a a fictional universe need to:

1. Touch grass
2. Find a therapist
3. Get a job

[craggy coral]

Star Wars is a story based on retcons lol

[grave siren]

Exaaactly exactly. I'm still firmly convinced that Skippy the Droid is force-sensitive and purposely caused his motivator to malfunction in order to help R2

[wanton radish]

Where did the name Skippy come from? Is that your personal nickname? Luke just calls him Red, and although Owen calls him an R2 unit, he is more accurately classified as an R5 unit.

It probably took me too long to make this connection, but I just realized why Mae didn't kill the bartender in the opening scene of Episode 1. She saw his child, and didn't want to give the child a life like she had. It was the remaining good in her heart showing through.

[rocky tundra]

“Skippy the Jedi Droid” is the title of a story within a comic book called Star Wars Tales vol 1, published by Dark Horse in 1999 or maybe 2000.
The story was so bizarre, it wasn’t even considered canon back when Legends content was considered canon.
But many Star Wars fans are fond of the story, as well as the nickname of ‘Skippy’ given to R5-D4.
It’s not canon in any way, but referring to R5 as Skippy is a legitimate deep dive.

[rocky tundra]

Yes, this is correct.
At first glance, it shows us she’s not totally evil: she has her targets, and will only threaten or hurt others as part of achieving her assassin goals.
Later on, we realize the deeper context behind her choosing not to kill a parent in front of their small child.

[wanton radish]

There have been a number of articles showing up in my feed lately where the title is something along the lines of "Can Droids be Force-sensitive? This challenges our understanding of the Force" I've been assuming it's clickbait and ignoring them. I've been keeping up with most of Star Wars and seen nothing about a Force-sensitive Droid. Have you?

[rocky tundra]

Going to answer in #star-wars-universe

[real sparrow]

The entire Tales series was just weird stuff that didn't fit into canon, like Indiana Jones investigating Bigfoot ||only to find the crashed Millenium Falcon with a dead Han in the cockpit, being guarded by Chewie from afar||.

[main ivy]

Tales also brought Darth Maul back for a duel with Vader long before TCW did.

and I believe he had the spider legs in that, but it's been a long long time since I read it.

There was also a story about the stormtrooper Leia shoots in ANH.

The confusing thing is that toward the end of the run, they changed things up and the stories in those issues WERE canon (now Legends)

[cinder oasis]

apparently not, but when did Disney care what the comics establish as canon 😂

[main ivy]

Well it was never canon to begin with lol

It was literally just a couple creators going "I want to see these two fight, so here we go"

[real sparrow]

Yeah they sort of just arbitrarily went back through the run and decided that some of it was or was not canon again at some point.

Of course then we have things like Tag and Bink, which Disney was happy to re-issue so that I could finally own a copy but is also blatantly taking the piss..

[obtuse carbon]

George Lucas was retconning releases before anybody else. Han Shot First, the Anakin Force-Ghost... Things change, the story changes, it's all made up anyway. IDK either.

[dense prawn]

Han did shoot first. What he saw was swamp gas reflecting off a weather balloon, and got jumpy /s

[obtuse carbon]

As far as I remember, George Lucas changed it 3 separate times or something. Han Shot First, Han shoots at same time, Greedo shoots first.

Han points out a window, Greedo looks, blam

[barren oxide]

“Maclunky!”

[dense prawn]

I preferred it the OG way, Han was supposed to be a shoot first, ask questions later kinda sketchy pilot that you’d find in a place like mos eisley

But whatever

[obtuse carbon]

Yeah, but we all know Lucas struggles with things being morally gray. Han can't do something bad and still be good, so we have to go back and change it 😄

[barren oxide]

It’s almost like the stupid D&D alignments. Han is supposed to be Chaotic Good.
(But he shot first!)

[modern laurel]

#hanshotfirst

you're in a sketchy place doing sketchy business and a Hutt bounty hunter is trying to collect your bounty. Of course you're gonna shoot first!

That's why I like that scene in Solo where Han shoots Beckett based on Beckett's own advice.

[quaint willow]

Wasn't Han the only one who shot in the original cut? Luke Greedo didn't get a shot off

[dense prawn]

Yeah

Han preemptively shoots him in cold blood and then walks off

I mean technically you could call Greedo’s threat a reason to shoot but he didn’t have a blaster pulled

[amber wind]

Yes. Han didn't just shoot first. He was the only one to shoot. Which makes his character seem a little darker.

[wanton radish]

Honestly, if Han hadn't shot at all, Greedo probably would have gone through on his threat. But then again, with A New Hope being the very first installment in the franchise, we had very little information to use to make that conclusion at the time.

[frail trail]

[dense prawn]

And Han got his redemption moment when he comes back to help

[cinder oasis]

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[ruby badge]

We just started the season again. Crossthread only watched the first 2 eps. About to head into ep 3.

[tulip terrace]

I need a rewatch again.

[ruby badge]

OMG he watched all of them and we stayed up until 1am and I am ded. 💀💀👻

[tulip terrace]

But worth it! They are so good.

[vital oxide]

And what did Crossthread think?!?!

[ruby badge]

I don’t think we talked about it because I was in a rush to go to sleep and have been a zombie all day. 🤣 He’s at the grocery now.

[obtuse carbon]

Out of curiosity, anybody have sources for where the new "Qimir is the first Ren" theories are coming from?

[gaunt atlas]

the Kylo Ren theme playing, I thought.

[obtuse carbon]

Oh yeah that part I remember, but curious if there was a post-interview somewhere that said whether or not Qimir was the first Ren or part of it somehow

[gaunt atlas]

One of the interviews Hedland said the theme playing was deliberate, but I think then the Internet just ran with theories.. As the Internet does.

[barren oxide]

The theme on the ice planet was also very reminiscent of the Hoth theme, so… 🤷‍♂️

[rocky tundra]

I think people like the theory because it means that whatever Qimir (and now Osha) are up to, it doesn’t just end in: “And then Plagueis killed them both and then years later he recruited Palpatine and then years after that the Prequels happened.”

One or both of them being the progenitors of a dark side cult/group means they successfully avoid death by Vernestra/Plagueis/Other Threats for long enough to build their own legacy.

[quaint willow]

Just to have it end in death at the hands of Ben Solo.

[rocky tundra]

That’s still 100+ years spent dark-siding around the galaxy.

[quaint willow]

And truly, what more can you ask for?

[ruby badge]

I am firmly in the Qimir is ||Imri Cantaros|| from the HR books camp. I might be camping alone here.

[rocky tundra]

I don’t think you’re alone because this isn’t the first I’ve heard of this theory.

But to my understanding there are illustrations of that character, and that character doesn’t look like Qimir?

[gaunt atlas]

Force Plastic Surgery?

[ruby badge]

Justina Ireland’s story following Vern is so much more interesting after watching The Acolyte.

[rocky tundra]

You know what, sure.
A wizard did it.

[tulip terrace]

For reference, Cantaros image from character encyclopedia.

[quaint willow]

Ok but hear me out, what if Vern IS Cantaros

[rocky tundra]

I feel like this is similar to a previous theory you had about Vernestra that didn’t pan out.

https://tenor.com/view/george-lucas-its-like-poetry-it-rhymes-poetry-gif-19259245

[quaint willow]

I feel like you've never heard the broken clocks or Simean Shakespeare theory.

[rocky tundra]

Is that “a broken clock is right twice a day” and “If you put enough typewriters and monkeys in one room eventually you get Hamlet?”

[quaint willow]

There you go. Why if the clock is set to a certain time it can even be right 3 times a day when the clocks are turned back.

[rocky tundra]

I’m not seeing how this proves that Vernestra is secretly Darth Smiley
Or secretly Cantaros
Or secretly Where’s Waldo 😅

[quaint willow]

And if you use enough monkeys and typewriters you can probably get a book by (insert name if author who could be insulted)

[quaint willow]

Oh the Where's Waldo thing is Star Trek, common mistake

[dense prawn]

Interesting, that quote in the top right corner

[tulip terrace]

Wait till you read Temptation of the Force.

[dense prawn]

It’s on my list, I’m currently 1/3 of the way into Path of Deceit

[barren oxide]

I’m having a strong sense of deja-vu. Like I’ve read the discussion between @rocky tundra and @quaint willow before. I mean, every word.
Or I haven’t woken up properly yet.

Probably read it in a book written by monkeys.

[rocky tundra]

I don’t know if it was word for word, but there was definitely a prior Vernestra Rwoh conspiracy theory discussion.

Possibly several discussions.

The poetry, it rhymes.

[short ether]

“Or secretly Where’s Waldo 😅”

This just opened up a whole new headcannon that may eventually result in the complete undoing of all I believe about Star Wars… since, of course, everything is true… from a certain point of view… 😳😁

[swift ice]

Where can i find this book?

[tulip terrace]

I got it on Amazon, but I’m sure you’ll be able to find in book stores. Here’s the link https://a.co/d/7tSMgnZ

[swift ice]

Awesome! Thank you

[grand stream]

Did you guys like the acolyte

[vital oxide]

I did. It was a good time.

[rocky tundra]

I also enjoyed watching it.

[grand stream]

R you gonna rewatch it

[vital oxide]

Definitely.

[grand stream]

What would you rate it /10

[rocky tundra]

Already rewatched it.

[vital oxide]

Overachiever 😉

[rocky tundra]

I don’t usually rate things numerically in my head, but maybe 8/10?

[frail trail]

Good/10

[dense prawn]

I’d say it was a solid 7.5/8 out of 10, has some weaknesses but nothing that outweighs the positives

I’d love to see a second season

[mint kindle]

Turns up to 11.

[mint kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-eleventh-doctor-doctor-who-matt-smith-smile-gif-17095333

[grand stream]

More positive than i thought

[grand stream]

Is it ur favorite sw show

[rocky tundra]

No

But I also don’t think about favorites too much in SW.

I know which trilogies I like best

And for some shows I have one episode I like best

But otherwise I don’t rank things often

I just like watching Star Wars

[grand stream]

I like andor

[frail trail]

I like turtles

[rocky tundra]

We have an andor channel!
#1022187710636630087

[frail trail]

No turtle channel though.

[rocky tundra]

I suppose #off-topic-chat-and-meta will do in a pinch

[frail trail]

Actually #share-your-pets too

[gaunt atlas]

Depends on how much the turtle likes you.

[mint kindle]

Turtle disappointment

I said I would!

[frail trail]

Turtlely

[main ivy]

It's probably my favorite live action

[grand stream]

Interesting

[grand stream]

Maybe a 7.5 or 8/10. Loses points because some character motivations are head scratchers and my own head canons seem shaky. Like, why didn't Mae just say she wanted to surrender to Kelnacca when Jecki attacked? And I still have no idea why Bazil sabotaged Sol's ship.

[rocky tundra]

Mae didn’t say she wanted to surrender to Kelnacca when Jecki attacked because at that moment in time she no longer wanted to surrender to the Jedi.
Her Master (who she had previously assumed was thousands of light years away) was right outside and she was terrified.
Mae wanted to get the heck out of there with all speed (preferably with Osha I suppose, but alone would be ok) so she could keep living.

As for Bazil sabotaging Sol’s ship—well, I really do wish we had gotten clearer info from Bazil when he was translator-less.

Either Bazil needed to be doing better charades, OR (and I think this would have worked) possibly when Bazil was recharging Pip, he could have accessed some kind of vocabulator at that charging station.
And that would have briefly allowed Bazil to do what the Frog Lady did with The Mandalorian, and Bazil could have had at least ONE conversation with Pip that we could hear audibly in our own human language.

And the only info Bazil would have needed to communicate in that conversation is: “Master Sol has brought the person we were hunting [Mae] back to this ship unrestrained. I think Master Sol cannot be trusted. He may have gone rogue.”

That’s all we need to explain Bazil sneaking around, and not talking directly to Sol, and pulling the wires.

[dense prawn]

The explanation I saw for Bazil doing that is he saw Sol arming the weapons

And didn’t want Sol to make another huge error

[rocky tundra]

Exactly.

Bazil’s head went where Mog’s head went.

Bazil assumed Sol had gone crazy, or rogue, or both, and was trying to stop Sol from killing the person they were supposed to peacefully arrest.

[dense prawn]

He was all like “no extra-judicial killings on my watch”

[rocky tundra]

Lol

Bazil is an upstanding civilian.

He knows how the Jedi operate, and he takes pride in being on their support team.

[dense prawn]

A good samaratotter

[quaint willow]

... or Bazil is the secret Sith Lord we have been looking for all along. 😋

[rocky tundra]

Actually I’ve received new intel that the secret Sith Lord is Cody Bellinger.

[dense prawn]

Bazil was the Sith Lord that trained Jar Jar

[quaint willow]

It could really be anybody... except that creepy grey alien guy in the cave

[quaint willow]

I knew there was a reason I didn't trust that guy

[rocky tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/meditation-yoga-dog-omm-cute-gif-17681791

*me meditating to achieve inner peace regarding this statement.

[dense prawn]

I saw a good YouTube video of a rundown of all the common questions, is Star Wars Explained a content creator in good standing here?

[quaint willow]

I have never actually heard of them

[dense prawn]

Or are they a drama llama

https://youtu.be/az6qcIScZJM?si=dZ9KKIcq7imv7EsD

Ahh well this is that video, he covers stuff like why did Bazil do that, and what was Vern’s deal with trust issues

[rocky tundra]

They are in excellent standing to me.

[dense prawn]

That one was the biggest question, like I get not wanting to bring down heat on your company, but she really did not trust her bosses (the council)

[rocky tundra]

In my experience Star Wars Explained always gives every piece of media a fair shake.

[dense prawn]

Yeah he was surprisingly positive about the show considering the early vitriol

[rocky tundra]

Even if they didn’t like something, they explain why they, specifically, did not like that thing subjectively, and acknowledge that other people might enjoy it and that is ok.

[dense prawn]

Yeah

[rocky tundra]

SWE makes content in good faith.

No drama llamas.

[dense prawn]

Good, I had a feeling he wasn’t but didn’t want to run afoul of posting content from someone who’s a bad actor

There’s stuff he covered I didn’t notice too, so it’s a fun watch. Only reason I don’t give the show a 9 is cause so many things had to be answered by Headland like if all the witches ||died when forced out of Kelnacca’s head, but the cool thing SWE noticed is that there must have been a lingering trace of their consciousness in his head for him to have gone on drawing those witch tattoo patterns||

To be fair, a lot of the questions Headland had to answer were ones that only us hardcore Star Wars nerds would even think to ask much less care about

[rocky tundra]

Lol

People getting confused by ||the witches dying when forced out of Kelnacca’s head|| confused me tbh.
I had a strong suspicion what was going to happen the minute ||Indara put her splayed hand over Kelnacca’s head||.

But admittedly I’d been viewing episode 7 as something like an algebra problem.

Trying to solve for X.

“In episode 3 we passed by a whole group of dead witches on the ground, but none of them were burned. So what killed them?”

And the answer to X then presented itself in the narrative.

[dense prawn]

Given how Grogu reacts to using the force I wondered if they were just unconscious

[rocky tundra]

A valid question

But at the same time, the Jedi had been very adamant from the beginning that everyone in Osha’s family was dead.

And them all being dead explained why no one suddenly appeared to make trouble after the Jedi took Osha—until Mae came out of the woodwork.

[dense prawn]

Yeah true

[gaunt atlas]

in context of the story, it doesn't really matter if they were directly killed by being forced out of Indara's head, or if they were incapacitated and later died from the fire. they died in The Event, and that's enough. Just us nerds wanting details on how the Force works.

[rocky tundra]

SW Fans: “We want to know how the Force works!”

The Force:

https://tenor.com/view/goodfellas-henry-hill-ray-liotta-laughing-laugh-gif-17070279

[swift ice]

It was a rough start for me, but it did get better near the end

[rapid lake]

I love SW Explained!

They're great, very positive in general which I find a breath of fresh air in the star wars YouTube world

[main ivy]

SWE also partners regularly with Lucasfilm. They are good people!

[swift ice]

I would love to have more HR/Acolyte content, mainly in animation

[dense prawn]

Yeah an adult animated show set during the time of YJA would be great

[rocky tundra]

Then we could all stop worrying that ||the Nihil will show up for real in YJA and drop kick Nubs like a football or something.|| 😅

[swift ice]

XD!!!!

[main ivy]

How could you even speak such a thing

[rocky tundra]

Well maybe if I keep talking about it, some SW writers might hear about it and decide not to use the idea because it’s no longer original.

So really, I’m performing a public service.

https://tenor.com/view/kick-soccer-goal-its-outta-here-pass-gif-15587834

[main ivy]

Are you tho?

[rocky tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/lack-of-faith-darth-vader-gif-23767574

[dense prawn]

Now I’m going to see this in my head every time I see poor Nubs lol

[short ether]

What about Ralph the Wonder Llama?

[rocky tundra]

He’s not a drama llama he’s an executive producer.

[short ether]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[swift ice]

Good Soldiers Follow Orders

wait

my brain registered what you said

[tulip terrace]

Waiting for Bazil & Vernestra. Need for them to do Qimir.

Also Mother Aniseya and Koril

[swift ice]

Vernestra ❤️

[grand stream]

https://collider.com/the-acolyte-season-2-cancelled/

The fucking haters won. I hate it here.

[dense prawn]

Boo

[gaunt atlas]

but not here here.

[dense prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore-futurama-planet-gif-12955936

[fallen sage]

i thought it might've had a shot based off the positive reception to choreo + ending

[swift ice]

Well i hope not here, i have met some really cool peeps here

[fallen sage]

looks like the numbers were just too beat up from the starting spot as per deadline

[grand stream]

No no, more like what @dense prawn posted.

[gaunt atlas]

I'm glad Andor was based on two seasons to start with, since apparently it had even lower views than Acolyte.

come on Disney, you just made a billion dollars in the past two weeks at the theaters

[dense prawn]

I want to be spiteful and have andor’s second season get shelved so all those whiners who said Acolyte wasn’t good cause it wasn’t “on Andor’s level”

[gaunt atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-you-dare-dont-dont-do-it-the-office-michael-scott-gif-14178027

[dense prawn]

Like fine, now you don’t get either cause you couldn’t let others be happy

Let’s put together a campaign and get Amazon to save it…oh wait that won’t work a second time

[gaunt atlas]

I wonder if we'll get comics or novels to at least bridge the gap storywise. Is Qimir the first Ren? Does he run off or does Plagueis kill him before taking on Palps? Does Mae get her memory back? Do the girls reunite?