#Ahsoka General Discussion

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clever bronze
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Yeah I looked up the actress and she's 26. I just hesitate on ruling it out completely because she might be a near-human who ages slightly differently

storm turtle
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How old is Bo Katan supposed to be by Mando time lol

clever bronze
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26 is too young to have even been born when O66 dropped

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If that's the character's age

sudden minnow
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Maybe it’s just an “I adore my mentor/youngling so much that they are like family” kind of thing.

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clever bronze
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Not sure if that works with Katee Sackhoff or not, but it's my rule of thumb

clever bronze
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clever bronze
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Yeah I literally just googled Katee, only 43

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No way it works for her

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Like 30 years out from TCW in Mando, and Bo-Katan absolutely was not 13 years old in TCW haha

storm turtle
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Perhaps she’s one of the Dunedain 😉

clever bronze
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ha

solid rune
# storm turtle Perhaps she’s one of the Dunedain 😉

You jest, but it’s not that far off?

She’s a character descended from a very old noble family who having lost control of their kingdom becomes a wandering warrior who struggles between the choice to stay away from the fight, and the choice to reclaim her kingdom and position and drive out the dark forces that have invaded it.

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solid rune
storm turtle
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Never thought about it

solid rune
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Shin doesn’t seem like she would have been part of the Jedi Temple, even as an infant.
Her conversations with Baylan would be much different if she was. They’re currently framed like the Jedi Temple is Baylan’s legacy alone and Shin has to question him to get any kind of connection to it because she was never part of it in any capacity.

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solid rune
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Her not being his blood doesn’t preclude him from caring deeply about her, and ||becoming enraged when Ahsoka threw her||.

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Especially if she’s been with him since she was an infant or a toddler.

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silver kernel
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Gotta remember. TCW didn't exactly shy away from the fact that there are CHILD SOLDIERS.

snow tree
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16-17 wouldn't even cause people to bat an eyelid 80 years ago. They might make you hang on until you were 18 before sending you into combat with a rifle, but you can serve on a ship just fine.

storm turtle
# silver kernel She doesn't necessarily have to be in her 20s in TCW. In fact, I wouldn't be sh...

All speculation but based on a little Google research TCW drops some hints that Bo and Satine were pretty close in age, only a few years apart, put together with Bo’s initial appearance as a combat vet, and the way she was animated and I’d say late teens to mid 20s personally but could also be 16 as it’s never stated directly. I don’t really think any of that matters tbh. The point is that actors age and characters age may not correlate but it doesn’t necessarily matter in the SW universe anyway as the rules of that universe including medicine, technology, and genetics could be different. I joked before about the Dunedain but as @solid rune pointed out it could be less of a joke. Perhaps long ago clan Kryze mixed with some near-human beings that had long life and aged slowly… That’s my new headcanon anyway

silver kernel
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Honestly, we very rarely get exact ages for characters. We know that Ahsoka was 14 when she was sent to Christophsis to begin training under Anakin. We know that Luke, Leia, and by extension Ezra were 19 by the time of the Battle of Yavin. We know Padme was 14 when she was elected Queen and Anakin was 9 when he was found on Tatooine. Everyone else is mostly guesswork.

storm turtle
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We know a lot more specific character ages than those 5 through various sources, guides, and other media, but that’s neither here nor there and a bit off topic

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grand bridge
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Shin was definitely not ever in the temple - ||in their ep6 convo Baylan calls Ezra a Bokken Jedi who grew up in the wilds, to which Shin replied “like me?”||

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proud jay
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But also, it's not implausible that she's in her late 50s

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Ming-Na Wen is 59

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unkempt crypt
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I forget who was asking but here is another and clear picture of the belt.

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I like the idea of Baylan's belt being held on by the Force.

clever bronze
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It does quite look like a kyber crystal in that picture, doesn’t it

proud jay
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I like Baylan a lot. He's one of the "bad guys" but he isn't a sith, hasn't even really fell to the darkside, and has his own agenda separately from the other bad guys

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I also dig their medieval knight style of clothing

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glad shale
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What kind of ride are we in for tomorrow!??!!?!

clever bronze
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Another really good one today IMO. I dunno how they wrap up this story in the one ep we have left, so I'm kinda hoping that they don't and it ends in such a way that it sets up where the Filoni movie is going to start

glad shale
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That's what I'm wondering. Season 2 or movie setup

elder oasis
unkempt crypt
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So... I just woke up from dreaming about being Ivanna's body guard for several hours. Started out with her just wanting me to drive her to the airport. Ended up in me being her personal body guard. Dreams are strange but fun.

lost wraith
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New episode today will be at the usual time right?

elfin spire
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Yes

clever bronze
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Finale. Just finished. Lots to digest.

elfin spire
unkempt crypt
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He did it again.

grand bridge
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All hail blue Dex

past vector
grand bridge
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😢

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plain tapir
proud jay
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I find it interesting that this show has a title crawl where most of them don't and it's not the same as the traditional crawl either

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(besides the red color)

solid rune
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I feel like having a crawl of any type was another part of Dave Filoni repeating lines/details from older SW productions as an homage.

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Also, much like the OT that started it all, Ahsoka S1 is kind of the middle of the story?

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Because Rebels came before, and more Ahsoka seasons/Filoni’s movie will come after.

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So a crawl is appropriate to explain this middle part of the story.

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And set the stage.

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Which is a more ominous, spookier stage than the original opening crawl structure.

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So yeah, do a red crawl with the text off to the side. 😄

clever bronze
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Daft moment: reading the text above and thinking to myself 'no way, I definitely remember there being a red opening crawl somewhere. Google, and realize that Ahsoka's was exactly the one I was thinking of 🤦‍♂️ 😂

solid rune
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There were red episode number titles for the final episodes of The Clone Wars.

clever bronze
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And iirc the first episode Maul appeared

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proud jay
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maybe not so hot take - Sabine's version of the saber > Ezra's

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(doing a rewatch of the show)

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just realized that the shuttle Baylan and Shin use is the same type of shuttle that Obi-Wan, Anakin and Ahsoka use when they arive on Mortis

clever bronze
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Eta-class, showed up a bunch in TCW

proud jay
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yeah but it's use here is definitely intentional, especially given how old it would be by now

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also Baylan on Ahsoka "to kill her would be a shame, there are so few Jedi left"

silver kernel
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proud jay
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for your enjoyment

glad shale
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Feels empty without a new episode

proud jay
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I'm doing a rewatch, on EP3 now

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I like how the enemy fighters look like MiG-15's

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evokes the dogfight style of space flying that GL wanted in the OT

snow tree
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I got a kind of truncated Brewster Buffalo from them.

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Lengthen them a bit and flip the tail upwards and you've got the basic shape.

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snow tree
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I wish I got that game back in the day. It's such a weird universe.

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I'm sure I could track down some TT rules somewhere, and I think Ral Partha Europe still sell the minis.

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Yup, and they still have some sourcebooks and maps.

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MUST RESIST

grand bridge
# snow tree I wish I got that game back in the day. It's such a weird universe.

I played the online XBOX version for a long time, it was a fantastic game that really nailed the balance of "arcade" flying while still allowing some "realistic" flying to outfly your opponent. Very well balanced ship/weapon choices, and I loved the overall aesthetic. I really deserved a series but got caught up in some corporate reshuffling. There was an AMA of one of the lead devs on reddit years ago and it seemed like one of those projects where they had a fantastic team that really loved it.

snow tree
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It's even more complex than that. It was one of the casualties of Harmony Gold sueing FASA out of existence, so MS were left owning a licence to make video games of a dead franchise that was way more niche than BattleTech or Shadowrun.

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Plus then you have to take the MS gamedev problems of that era into consideration, which is basically a guarantee that an IP will sit unusued for years before being licenced out to whoever asks.

silver kernel
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snow tree
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I think the genre was on the downward slope at that point sadly.

elfin spire
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I hope we get an "Art of Ahsoka" book

elfin spire
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Same

silver kernel
# elfin spire Hnnnnnng

It looks like Sabine was supposed to have her jetpack. Filoni must've realized how many issues that would've trivialized.

silver kernel
river girder
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I mean… that’s probably not completely wrong…

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proud jay
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Ok so after rewatching one of the best episodes SW television history (Shadow Warrior) I have some thoughts.
It's 100% Anakin, not a dream, not a near death vision, it's actually Anakin through the Force

Why didn't Ahsoka take Jacen as an apprentice? Obviously we know that Sabine is capable using the Force to some extent now but Jacen has much more potential imo

clever bronze
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Maybe she doesn’t want to repeat the mistakes that she lived through?

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Like, she didn’t have a choice about becoming a Jedi, spent her teenage years as essentially a child soldier leading other child soldiers, right up till the day the Order betrayed her over something she didn’t do…looking back on that and deciding that the Order’s approach is wrong and a trainee shouldn’t be a kid?

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Or maybe she asked but Hera said no?

proud jay
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yeah I'm sure there's a valid reason, I just want to know what lol

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also I really appreciate Hu Yang's Metropolis styling

silver kernel
glossy schooner
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I know in my own fic I have a mom turning down an offer for her kid to become a Jedi because the kid is like five and she wants the kid to be able to make her own choices as an adult

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Ends up saving the kid's life, since that offer came from Luke and we all know what happened to Luke's temple :/

unkempt crypt
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I love that!

sudden minnow
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Love the show, but this was hilarious.

plain tapir
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Found this artwork of clone wars Baylan from Uzuri Art on Facebook

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shell jolt
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Srsly I would love to see a Baylan Tales of the Jedi - start with surviving Order 66 and an episode how he finds Shin would be great

clever bronze
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I wonder if Baylan is the sort of person that Bardan Jusik would’ve become if he’d remained in the Order instead of joining up with Kal Skirata’s clan

silver kernel
shell jolt
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Seeing more and more rumors that Disney has green lit a season 2. Anyone want to lay odds or play over/under on when it will be officially announced?

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whole lance
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Hopefully that will be soon. They’re back at negotiations today.

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Since I can't post these in the non ge lightsabers due to spoilers I'll post it here. New from korbanth

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red inlet
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loving all the BTS pics

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solid rune
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And while I know they didn’t actually stuff David Tennant inside of Huyang (or have him hide behind the chair) for fun I like to pretend they did.

proud jay
fickle wagon
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FWIW I think these two excerpts lend significant credence to the idea that she wasn’t actually in the WBW. But as they state, it’s not definite

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fickle wagon
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Honestly, that’s more or less exactly how I feel. I don’t think she was “actually” there, but it was obviously real to her in that it had life or death consequences and changed her spiritually. And like Filoni says in the article, “You have people in your life that I’m sure have inspired you. And you feel that all the time. You feel that when you need it.””

solid rune
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I do agree that force ghost Anakin was there purely for Ahsoka.
His consciousness that is one with the force only re-emerged into individuality for the specific purpose of helping her.
That’s why it wasn’t an “Anakin what do you have to say for yourself?!” situation where he was being called to account for his actions in life.
His sins and virtues were only relevant in relation to getting Ahsoka back on her feet.

storm turtle
# fickle wagon Honestly, that’s more or less exactly how I feel. I don’t think she was “actuall...

I tend to get kinda simplistic with this stuff. Situations like Harry, Gandalf, and Ahsoka I view as whatever mystical power bringing their consciousness where it needs to be in that moment. Was it happening in her mind definitely, but from an ethereal perspective she was imo on another plane of existence that manifested for her as the physical WBW. Whether the Anakin we saw was actually Anakin or a projection of Ahsokas is immaterial to me personally as he served his purpose in her journey at that moment making him as real as he needed to be

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snow tree
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There's an entire set of Elric novels that occur in the middle of another novel where he spends a few pages being the figurehead of a pirate ship as torture. We learn literally 30 years later IRL that he was projecting his mind into alternate realities (this makes sense in context, just go with it) and basically ends up learning how to free himself from his teen self who was also doing some reality-hopping shenanigans. The whole "you are near death and it brings you knowledge from other places" trope is a long a storied one.

storm turtle
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And it’s not new to SW either

snow tree
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Yeah, arguably hypothermia brings Luke way more into tune with the force.

fickle wagon
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“this makes sense in context, just go with it”
An extremely Star Wars sentence

storm turtle
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Yup

snow tree
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If I start explaining how many of the same character show up and what the timeline involved is like it gets way too silly. Also I'll forget stuff.

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Like this includes a bit where he accidentally defeats Hitler.

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mystic granite
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I am squeeing a bit that Hayden is talking about the World Between Worlds. Like he's seen Rebels. He probably hasn't. But it's enough to make me fangirl over it.

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# mystic granite I am squeeing a bit that Hayden is talking about the World Between Worlds. Like...

https://ew.com/tv/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-darth-vader-hayden-christensen-clone-wars-rebels/

He also watched Twilight of the Apprentice several times in preparation for the OWK finale with the cracked helmet

https://collider.com/obi-wan-kenobi-finale-hayden-christensen-darth-vader-comments/

EW.com
Hayden Christensen binged 'Star Wars' animated shows to prep for 'O...

Hayden Christensen binged 'Star Wars' animated shows 'The Clone Wars' and 'Rebels' to prep for 'Obi-Wan Kenobi.'

Collider
'Obi-Wan Kenobi': Hayden Christensen Talks The Final Emotional Conf...

"It was a rather emotional experience"

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solid rune
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In his performance.

silver kernel
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Ray did such a good job.

snow tree
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What's interesting there is that Filoni didn't seem to get what Stevenson was doing there, even if it was so damn effective.

jaunty mantle
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I'm not looking though the server or anything but I heard the show isn't good because it's slow paced. Besides being slow, do y'all like the show? I'm on the fence about watching it. I love ahsoka though.

snow tree
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It's got issues, but it's an overall fun watch.

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The little character moments are great, and there is some really wonderful stuff towards the end that it'd be a shame to miss.

elfin spire
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snow tree
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In a way Filoni was, probably unintentionally, trying to get him to break character there.

solid rune
jaunty mantle
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Thanks!

solid rune
# jaunty mantle Thanks!

It is a continuation of Ahsoka’s journey and personal development. If you like Ahsoka as a character you will enjoy watching her ups and downs.

snow tree
solid rune
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Yes, it’s working out.

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What Dave Filoni does have experience with allows him (and has allowed him) to create his flavor of Star Wars.

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Which I think has been very good Star Wars.

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His work has Star Wars themes, and connected story beats, and you can feel the care and attention to detail.

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Which interestingly is also why Andor was so good, even though Tony Gilroy put together a completely different flavor of Star Wars story.

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Both Dave Filoni and Tony Gilroy have made use of what they know and have expertise in, and also ensured their respective projects involved other participants whose knowledge was listened to, and would fill in the gaps of what the as showrunners had less experience with.

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So yeah I think we’re in good hands. 🙂

snow tree
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I didn't enjoy the broad strokes plot of Ahsoka TBH, but a lot of the individual episodes were great and did interesting things. I feel like Filoni is a great guy to flesh out a broad outline, but not necessarily the best at having a story he wants to tell himself. Feels uncomfortably like my own efforts at writing TBH.

silver kernel
proud jay
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Mando felt a bit slow. BoBF was all over the place, and Kenobi was too fast

proud jay
snow tree
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Andor is very weirdly paced unless you know that it's three-episode arcs and done very deliberately to mess with you, I think. It's extremely effective in messing with you though.

jaunty mantle
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Andor was probably my favorite live star wars series so far, having not seen ahsoka yet

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BoBF my opinion is probably in the minority but I preferred the half that was the flashback scenes in the desert

snow tree
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TBH I think that's a pretty common opinion. The flashback was really interesting, and when it turned into Mando season 2.5 it was kind of a different show. The rest of it was kind of weak and confused because Disney tried to make a hero out of a villain and couldn't show a crimelord doing crimes.

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Don't go into Ahsoka expecting Andor. It's a very different kind of show. I'm kind of surprised Disney were okay with Gilroy telling the story he did and drawing on the historical events he did to tell it.

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Just finished watching Ahsoka yesterday, I don't know how to feel about it.

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It just felt weird and forced to see Sabine as a force sensitive individual, I think it simply erases the essence of her character.

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solid rune
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My personal headcanon is that because the force clearly has a capital P Plan for Ahsoka (and by extension her apprentice) once Sabine reconciled with Ahsoka and got in the right headspace, the force was like “Okay we can expedite your access a bit during this emergency situation.”

silver kernel
solid rune
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That too.

silver kernel
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And some question Sabine using the Force to propel Ezra towards the Chimera, but unlike Luke, she knew that was possible because she'd seen Kanan and Ezra pull off the Force Leapfrog technique at least a couple of times.

solid rune
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Good old Rebels callbacks. 😊

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I imagine Sabine will still have to keep training and keep committing herself to the light, just like any Jedi would.

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She’s still an apprentice.

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But if there’s anything we know from Star Wars, it’s that force training is not a one size fits all curriculum. Everyone gets different lessons, and figures it out at different speeds.

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Also the force clearly has a will of its own and is totally biased, so why wouldn’t it give an extra boost to the grand-apprentice of the chosen one?

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…admittedly the thought does make me indignant on behalf of Chirrut Imwe, who had to hone his skills patiently over years and years.

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But ironically I don’t think Chirrut would be too upset about it.

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“All is as the force wills it.”

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That sort of thing.

proud jay
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I'm fine with it because we watched 7 episodes of her struggling to use it and get into the right mindset

silver kernel
red inlet
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wholesome BTS

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It’s film/tv. I’m not gonna say they all smoke, but a lot of them do.

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silver kernel
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Well, that was wholesome as could be

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I love that Diana Lee Inosanto has pics & video of both Ezras at the Emmy after party on her Instagram today. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2LISRUSBCN/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

therealdianaleeinosanto

Grooving into the night with some Force-Wielders, I spotted two dancing Ezras😆. A lot of celebrating at Disney’s Emmy Afterparty 💫 @ivannasakhno @emanesfandi @taylorgray3 #starwars #ahsoka #starwarsrebels #emmycelebrations #emmy #starwarsjoy #joy #Disney #ezrabridger #shinhati #morganelsbeth #inosanto #dance

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saw Diana Lee Inosanto and Eman Esfandi today

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they were amazing

placid bridge
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https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Murley

Wookieepedia
Murley

Murley was a Loth-cat who accompanied the Mandalorian Sabine Wren during the time of the New Republic, living alongside Wren in the LothalNet comm tower E-272 on the planet Lothal. Around 9 ABY...

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I guess Murley’s a boy since Dave Filoni used male pronouns

tiny comet
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Random question: where is Sabine's helmet by the end of the events atop the spire/Nightsister tower? Trying to figure out where to display the minifig's helmet. 🙂

tiny comet
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Nevermind, it was discarded off to the side. She picks it up just before she and Ahsoka run for the shuttle.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/DDIx034yl9B/?igsh=MW9uc3Q2Yjk2bmR5bQ==

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Star Wars News:

Dave Filoni has confirmed at the Skeleton Crew premiere that he is now writing Ahsoka and filming is coming very soon.

What are your thoughts on this news? Comment them down below!

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I don’t know if I saw this in entertainment chat

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But hooray

solid rune
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That is also my thought about this news.

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“Hooray” 🎉

elfin spire
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HOORAY

bitter star
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Supposedly we've gotten Baylan's replacement, going to be the guy who played The Hound in GoT

pure marlin
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I like it

bitter star
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Have to wait and see if it's true or not but guess according to the insider that heard the news he was given the thumbs up by Stevenson's late wife. He's gonna need a wig though lol

pure marlin
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lol yeah for sure

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I think Variety confirmed it

solid rune
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I assume they will give him both. 😅

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Have to say it's not exactly the most expected casting, but he did a great job as the Hound and I'm looking forward to it.
Not many actors that are actually taller than Ray to fill such a big character

vernal umbra
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I didn’t think I saw the semblance until I happened upon this insta post

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I think the toughest for him will be replicating Ray’s voice

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He’ll look convincing enough I think, but will he sound like Ray is the thing

shell jolt
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With any recasting, especially in a role that became so iconic, I'm not so worried about the voice. It's really the rest of the mannerisms - the way they carry their shoulders, the gait, the speech patterns. That's what really seems to bridge 2 actors playing the same character.
Of course Filoni and other writers have an opportunity for some event to so drastically change the character that they could give Rory the chance at his own take on Baylan.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/DEs95osSRh7/?igsh=MW02cXNmNnV0Zmdmcw==

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Star Wars News:

Hayden Christensen, Ewan Mcgregor and Ariana Greenblatt are reportedly set to appear in their respective roles in the 2nd season of Ahsoka!

What are your thoughts on this news? Comment them down below!

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I love that we’ll (possibly) get more Clone Wars flashbacks

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Far fetched, but I would lose my shit if we saw some of the Mortis arc made live action

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Live action Father/Son/Daughter would be awesome

solid rune
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Yes it would be.

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The more I think about it though, it’s the only way they’ll be able to explain the Mortis stuff to viewers who haven’t seen clone wars

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Baylan is clearly after them/something related to the trio, and Ahsoka has had Moraii following her around ever since those clone war episodes

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I so want to see Ewan in obi’s clone war armor outfit

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Yeah it was great seeing Hayden in the CW Anakin outfit

solid rune
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Hopefully Ewan will do the same

solid rune
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I’m definitely way too excited about the flashback possibilities for Season 2.

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It’s too far out to be excited, and they probably won’t do everything I’m thinking about.

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But still

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but still indeed

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👀👀👀

solid rune
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Sounds like Shin giving Sabine and Ahsoka a hard time, while Baylan is walking all the way to [REDACTED].

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solid rune
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[heck if I know]

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lol I was just kidding

solid rune
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I know

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But to continue the joke, I took you seriously.

vernal umbra
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I’ve discovered from book club meetings I’m a rookie in sense of humour compared to you 😝

solid rune
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And totally don’t crack jokes because it’s the only way I know how to communicate. 👀😅

vernal umbra
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Same here, except usually most of my jokes are only funny in my head

solid rune
vernal umbra
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Sw celebration new baylan pic

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elfin spire
solid rune
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Yay Jedi pants

silver kernel
uncut fjord
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Omg he looks so good with the jacket!!!

elfin spire
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slightly higher res image

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Not far off from the animated Ezra, kind of impressive really

solid rune
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Yeah, the beard in s1 really threw me off, but clean shaven and with non-hobo hair he’s a perfect match

solid rune
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It helped showed he was older.

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And that he’d been living in a mobile trailer park with space crabs for the better part of a decade.

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Oh yeah it was appropriate, just never thought he looked like Ezra

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But 100% looks like him once cleaned up

plain tapir
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plain tapir
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It is simply a shortening of "star wars-y"

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Star Wars just has a certain aesthetic that includes very cool jackets

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Ohh💀😭 I literally googled it and a couple of jackets just showed up 🤣