#The Bad Batch - Season 2, Episode 3

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hollow saffron
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Discuss episode 3 of The Bad Batch Season 2!

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Forgive me and delete if this wasn't ok to do! Clap me in irons!

topaz fjord
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I cast my vote for the legitimization of this forum.

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Anyway, how bout them B1s?

mellow badge
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Crosshair was straight up Deadshot in this Ep šŸ‘Œ

potent pawn
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Crosshair is being such an idiot. Rampart talking about CH playing at commander. And CH doesn't have a brother anywhere. For a brief time it was Cody but even he left him. CH doesn't have anyone,anything, or even a future.

tacit mica
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Gonna need a meme of the governor saying ā€œpeace was never an optionā€

next grove
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IT'S TIME

next grove
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He never misses

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Also nice Kallus-esque scene with Crosshair there

next grove
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I hate Rampart

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They are lining up Cross to be Kallus

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Those shots in his room

topaz fjord
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First image courtesy of @severe escarp

next grove
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My poor boy

topaz fjord
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He believes (for now) that the abuse is the price of having purpose.

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Or possibly that the abuse is irrelevant/immaterial compared to getting to be part of something bigger and stronger.

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Except of course it isnā€™t irrelevant at all.
But heā€™s tried to convince himself it should be.

marsh dawn
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Cody giving a side eye when Crosshair calls Jedi traitors

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Real ironic coming from man who did this

topaz fjord
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Thatā€™s kind of the point. Codyā€™s side eye isnā€™t sarcastic or critical, like ā€œoh, please, donā€™t give me thatā€.

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Itā€™s questioning. Like Codyā€™s expression is asking: ā€œDo you really think thatā€™s plausible? And for that matter, why did I think that was plausible? And why am I now silently questioning what I was so completely sure of a year ago on Utapau?ā€

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Did Cody ever learn about the chips having an unknown suspicious purpose the way Rex did? Iā€™m not sure he did.

marsh dawn
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But like with Howzer last season

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The chip only goes so far.

marsh dawn
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Wait how did Crosshair know Rex went rouge? I thought the Empire thought he was dead still.

topaz fjord
next grove
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My hot take and I ma not looking to debate so this is just my opinion and no one will like it trust me.

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Cross didn't kill that Mayor, if you look her shoulder was burning

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He did it to get Cody out of the situation

marsh dawn
next grove
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second Cody isn't AWOL he is out looking for the Batch

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And will more than likely help them

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And Cross is having some major Kallus feels here

marsh dawn
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I think I misheard maybe

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Iā€™ll have to rewatch

topaz fjord
# marsh dawn I think I misheard maybe

Yeah I think the line from Crosshair was ā€œRegs have gone awol tooā€. Regs meaning regular clones.
But ā€˜regsā€™ sounds a lot like ā€˜rexā€™.

topaz fjord
marsh dawn
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Straight up misheard it.

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I was so confused haha.

topaz fjord
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Lol it was an easy mixup.

topaz fjord
# next grove He did it to get Cody out of the situation

Also what really struck me as relevant in their relationship was what Cody said during his and Crosshairā€™s second conversation at the memorial.
Whenever Hunter or the other Bad Batchers were arguing with Crosshair in S1, they kept outright telling him he was wrong: that the Empire was evil, that the chip was making him evil, etc etc. They kept pushing Crosshair, and so he kept pulling away.
But Cody didnā€™t try to tell Crosshair what he should do, or what was the right thing to do. He basically just said: ā€œWe all make our own choices, and we have to live with them.ā€ And left it at that.
He gave Crosshair what no one else would: he respected his choices.

next grove
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This is very true

marsh dawn
severe escarp
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holds her coke coffee

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Everything is

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Not okay!

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Crosshair: can you let me eat for Frickin once?

next grove
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Crosshair isn't allowed happiness apparently

severe escarp
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No! And neither are we!

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But!

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I see light in Crosshair

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He said Cody

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He asked Rampart why he doesnā€™t say Cody

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I see

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A broken chain in the mail

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I see change

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Also seeing Cody in Grey

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Hurts

marsh dawn
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Notice how Cody continued to call his troopers by names.

severe escarp
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Yep

topaz fjord
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Cody has ptsd

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Which, I mean, obviously

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But he lost one of his men right in front of him, and two minutes later he goes berserk on a BX droid, stabbing it repeatedly until Crosshair snaps him out of it.

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Cody please go get therapy

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Go awol for therapy first.

severe escarp
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lets not forget he probably thinks Kenobi is dead

hollow saffron
topaz fjord
severe escarp
topaz fjord
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And even if there is an Imperial bounty posted for Obi-Wan Kenobi at this point on the timeline, I canā€™t imagine Cody has spent his free time post-Order 66 looking at open bounty postings.

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Not really his thing.

naive scarab
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I also think that Crosshair needed this plush pile on his bedroom. šŸ„ŗ

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ruby pivot
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The soundtrack in this episode was very good.

silent owl
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This episode was so chilling and heavy. The scene setting really drove it home too. The shot of the star destroyer looming over the governor's headquarters awash in red literally sent chills down my spine

hollow saffron
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Tawni mothertruckin Ames!

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I loved her

dapper river
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oops, answered pretty soon after. my b

stoic relic
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Ok but can we talk about that last scene with Rampart saying clones close to Crosshair keep going AWOL?

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Is Rampart gonna set up Crosshair so it looks like he's encouraging clones to desert?

hollow saffron
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Yeah that smelled

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It was definitely a threat from Rampfart.

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It will be interesting what Cross does next.

naive scarab
rough mirage
marsh dawn
rough mirage
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No, he's always had the line going down past his eye, but in this episode he had a crescent moon scar above that.

full furnace
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what a great episode

severe escarp
naive scarab
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Iā€™m watching it again. So good!

quiet snow
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The last ten minutes or so of that episode was amazing. Had a Blade Runner feel to it.

hollow saffron
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Haha I watched all 3 again.

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Feed meh BB

rustic totem
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Cody 100% felt guilt over ordering Kenobi's death. Pre-Fall of Kamino Crosshair would've shot the governor the instant she backed down and let the Imperial governor go. I have no doubt that Cody is done with the Empire and Cross is starting to lean that way.

rustic totem
topaz fjord
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Though I do hope he also feels accountable in some way for Boga the varactyl, because she actually did die as a result of Codyā€™s (albeit brainwashed) actions.

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Poor Boga. ā˜¹ļø

naive scarab
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Boga! šŸ˜Ÿ

dapper river
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My good girl Boga šŸ„²

severe escarp
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Bestest Girl Boga,

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Bestest #1 Most Goodest Varactyl Boga

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omfg this picture

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I cannot

obtuse void
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Why does commander Cody have a conscience in The Bad Batch? Doesnā€™t he still have a chip? If so, I thought that chip prevented them from disobeying orders and going AWOL?

hollow saffron
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I was wondering since Rampfart mentions lots of clones defecting maybe they fried them too much.

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I can see the Empire overusing and abusing that power to the point of chip degradation.

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Though I do not doubt the capabilities of the Kamino scientists, they also probably didn't predict this intense amount of chip usage.

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A reason that Tarkin wanted nonclones to serve is that the loyalty of enthusiastic civvies does not solely rely upon a piece of tech.

stoic relic
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Yeah Order 66 seems to have put the chips on overdrive, short-term Extreme Effectiveness and then burnout

naive scarab
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I think that the intentions where just to use the clones specifically for order 66. Clones were expensive and loyalty is much cheaper, so I guess Palpatine was going to replace them no matter what. Also, I think the the chip was activated at the moment it was executed the order, but Iā€™m not sure the durability of it.

rustic totem
# obtuse void Why does commander Cody have a conscience in The Bad Batch? Doesnā€™t he still hav...

I feel like that's putting things too simply. We've seen how the chips can have varying effects on the clones. Prior to Rampart's tampering, Crosshair was only mildly annoyed that the rest of the Bad Batch was ignoring Order 66 and being their usual independent selves.

Speaking of, I am still thinking that Crosshair was lied to about having his chip removed OR the chip being cranked up beyond standard levels affected him even after the chip was removed. Otherwise, I don't think he would have gone back to the Empire after a month of waiting for rescue.

hollow saffron
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To him, it may have felt like he didn't have a choice. Or that going back to the Empire was going back to the only familiarity he can have.

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But it's not like how it was.

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His room is small and secluded.

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The clones still treat him like an outcast but it's different. It hurts now.

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Their avoidance is out of something different than before.

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I'm sure at first he liked having his own room. And eating in peace... if they ever let him eat.

topaz fjord
# hollow saffron I'm sure at first he liked having his own room. And eating in peace... if they ...

Isolation is a slippery slope.
I think Crosshair always felt comfortable being distant even in his own group (he is the sniper after all).
But heā€™s still human and still needs human connection to feel healthy. He connected with Cody during their mission, where Cody saved his life and provided assistance that helped Crosshair be his best self.
But now Cody is gone, and Crosshair is alone again.

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And yeah someone let this man eat without interruption ferfassakes.

hollow saffron
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I wonder if they're purposefully starving him.

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Isolation and hunger.

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I bet it felt good to be used properly again. He got to snipe!

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Manipulation through punishment is the worst.

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Eff the Empire.

topaz fjord
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I think itā€™s Rampart treating him toxically, but not specifically to starve him. Just to stress him out and remove the comfort and security of uninterrupted eating.
If Rampart had more important scheduled things to do during clone mealtimes, heā€™d let Crosshair eat but find other ways to mess with him.

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Crosshair probably has field rations and access to clone cafeteria food at other times. Him intermittently having to wait to eat later is the intended stressor, not lack of food in general.

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But yes, quack the Empire.

rustic totem
topaz fjord
rustic totem
hollow saffron
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Bye girl bye

topaz fjord
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Though sometimes only a silver lining, when I think about how much time Tarkin had to inflict himself on the galaxy.

hollow saffron
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Until you realize the more innocent soldiers lost.

topaz fjord
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He wasnā€™t young when he died.
And he was doing messed up stuff even before the Empire gave him nearly carte blanche.

topaz fjord
hollow saffron
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Aww no not the mice!

topaz fjord
hollow saffron
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I don't think so.

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If it's newer than when the prequels came out then no.

topaz fjord
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Itā€™s an anthology of stories from the pov of various background/side characters in the OT movies.
Theyā€™ve made one for ANH, and another for ESB (and we should get the ROTJ one soon).
Thereā€™s a story in the ANH book thatā€™s from the pov of the Death Star mouse droid that Chewie scares.
It takes a little bit of effort to follow because the mouse droid thinks in code algorithms. But if you read it closely, itā€™s beautiful and emotional, and the final line is heartbreaking.

hollow saffron
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Aw ok definitely putting it in my notes! Thank you.

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Aside from the probe droids, mouse droids are my favorite.

topaz fjord
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Only in the galaxy far far away could you find personality in small boxes on wheels.

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But I do digress from Bad Batch.

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Hey hereā€™s Rampart and his big dumb fascist chin.

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He wonā€™t outlive Tarkin.
fingers crossed

stoic relic
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He [QUACK]ing better not!

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I wanna see one of our boys take him out

rustic totem
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I'd personally like to see Cross take him out with the GFFA equivalent of piano wire, but I think that'd be too violent for animated Star Wars

stoic relic
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Part of me really wants Cody, Rex, or Wolffe to take him out

naive scarab
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I would really like Cross to take Rampart out as redemption.

stoic relic
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Would also be very good

hollow saffron
naive scarab
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Aaahhh! Wednesday! šŸ˜

topaz fjord
naive scarab
hollow saffron
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And you know you should!

severe escarp
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THATS MY BOYYYYYY

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THATS MY TECH'IKA