td2-hardcore-mode-chat

[round mauve]

That's the innate risk of Hardcore mode.

[sudden rune]

That's literally the fun of HC. Normal mode feels so safe and boring after playing HC as there's no risk, no danger. My HC has near double the SHD level of my SC (4500+ vs 2500) because, since HC mode came out, I've not really felt any desire to play SC. Sure' I've died lots of times, but that just makes me more determined to try again and do better next time.

[stable kraken]

What mission are hard core?

[round mauve]

@stable kraken Hardcore is not a type of mission, or even specific ones.
It's an alternate version of the game, that you pick from the character creation screen. You start it from Lvl 0, then if you die, you go back to that screen.

[stable kraken]

Dang ok so no sharing of gear. 1 and done

Any perks

[round mauve]

You can get an arm patch, that's about it.

It's just a "for fun" mode, not meant to be taken too seriously.

[sudden rune]

No real perks, just a way of life.

[vivid fossil]

stupid yolo hat for reaching white house also

i feel like it would be better rewarded on end of DC story, but what ever.

[sudden rune]

#lfg-hardcore-mode

[sly bear]

Perks are you play the game on a whole new level takes the game to a different level. Also shows you how much people die. So many patches for flawless things in the game. Pretty much why not be able to play the game flawlessly. It’s definitely funner with friends and most of the time safer. But for those who like the thrill of living only once it’s pretty awesome. In my opinion it also makes you a better player. Makes you think before running out there and getting killed. Yeah unfortunately there’s only one patch for HC now and it’s the DH HC patch.

[twin gorge]

There's three patches, Dark Hours, Capitol and Tidal
The 500 gear score patch was the only one removed

[sly bear]

I keep forgetting about capital and tidal. I didn’t even know they were a thing and I been playing HC since it was introduced before the DLC.

I have them and I collected them a while back just can’t remember them for some reason

I’m on my 73rd death. In 5 years I think I’m not doing too bad. Thankful for the stash. I can hide my oroborous, ravenous and EB in there unless I really need it 🤣

[twin gorge]

Damn congrats on getting them
Must've been stressful especially paradise lost

[round mauve]

@urban spoke You're looking for #td2-clan-recruitment, but also check out #lfg-hardcore-mode to find people.
GL Agent

[crimson quest]

Ugh always fun running into Rogue Agents during a mission with directives enabled, oh well time to make a new character 😞🤦‍♂️

[worldly loom]

When I wasn't feeling confident with my build, I just reset the mission whenever I got the rogue notification, not worth the risk. Had to reset DUA 3 times in a row once 😂

[crimson quest]

Wishing I did that now 🤣

[sage tendon]

A good skill build kills them every time for me

[narrow elk]

I hit 40 all in DC but I can't go to Manhattan, do I need to do all of the main campaign stuff to get the pilot to reappear?

[sudden rune]

You need to complete Tidal Basin.

[narrow elk]

I've already done that actually, got the commendation to go with it

Oh wait a minute, the pilot got moved I guess because of the Razerback being there

Fast travel would just take me to the front of the White House so I did the GPS thing instead and they're just out front

Weird

[sudden rune]

That was going to be my next suggestion!

[narrow elk]

Rip to my first level 40, got owned by a random Cleaner patrol in part because I didn't want to spend the mats to upgrade my gear in case my character died 🙃

Self-fulfilling prophecy

[frozen copper]

Sorry for your loss! I too lost an agent 40 today

[narrow elk]

[sly bear]

I am on my 75th loss still trying to figure out the most survivalable build for these awesome modifiers

[viral urchin]

Bloodsucker for the bp has kept me alive so so many times.

[alpine lava]

On that note... What's the best way to power level back up to 40. Asking for a friend

[viral urchin]

I would usually have them come to my map run Lincoln on story or challenging with directives that’ll push them to lvl 12-13. The missions on the west side of the map will give the person your boosting the most XP.

[random cradle]

I died last night to but lucky only lvl 6, use to play on xbox not use to keyboard controls yet

[lucid bolt]

Where do I find the hardcore mode?

[sudden rune]

When you create a new agent, the option 'Hardcore Mode (Beta) is available.

[lucid bolt]

Thanks

[vague kernel]

The one time I get a crash in so very long happened to be 10 or so hours into my first hardcore character. You hate to see it. 😂

[round mauve]

Just think of it as a bonus Directive :p

[tranquil kettle]

if you crash at all the hc char is dead?

[sudden rune]

If you're face to face in a shootout, probably. If not, you'll probably be ok.

[tranquil kettle]

ah

[worldly loom]

The logout timer is 2s, so as long as you can survive that long you'll be ok.
In the DZ however it's 30s, so even though you're unlikely to run into any rogue agents, it's still more risky.

[tranquil kettle]

the revive util works in hc right ?

[worldly loom]

Yes as long as you're only on your knees (ie the state when you can still crawl around), if you go down from there then it's over, even if your hive would have activated and picked you up again.

[viral urchin]

Also the enemies can kill you while you’re hive is picking you up. Had that one happen a couple of times. 😞

[sly bear]

Also if your hive is jammed by black tusk or hunters it will not work

If you are bleeding or on fire there’s a 95% chance it won’t be able to pick you up.

The hive to me is kind of like a false security blanket honestly. But to each their own

[vague kernel]

Unfortunately for me, I was in a gunfight at the time of the crash so I got cooked

[sudden rune]

The way I see it, even if it only works 2x out of 10, that’s 2 less rebuilds. And that’s good enough for me.

[sly bear]

You do what you want it’s your game you bought it play how you feel is fun.i rather have another skill putting out damage and or helping me or my team out. There’s also places where I can’t us e reviver hive in order to do roles in raids and incursions so I rather get good playing without it

And what are you rebuilding exactly?you have a stash. There’s countdown and summit for gear if you don’t have gears and guns. It’s soo much faster to get your character back now than ever before even if you are by yourself

[random escarp]

Lost my first hardcore agent yesterday, dumb move by me, over extended and out of position. Made it to SHD 42.

[viral urchin]

@random escarp I feel your pain. I lost my second alt hard-core character yesterday and like an idiot I forgot he had the turmoil kneepads on him.🤦‍♂️

[random escarp]

I was trying to strategically ferret away stuff and save it for hitting a high level

More the rarer stuff or at least the stuff that's a pain to get.

Probably a dumb question, but you don't maintain SHD levels between Hardcore characters, right? Like you do for normal ones.

[sly bear]

Yes you do it’s shared just like core

Having two HCs can help you level your watch faster so you can do seasons, dailies, weeklies and summit on both characters

Plus if one dies you don’t need to be in a rush to get the other one back up right away

[viral urchin]

Don’t keep a lot of gear on your character like I did. Makes the death less painful lol.

[sly bear]

I have two mainly one for open world, DZ and legendaries and the other I usually have raid builds and incursion builds

You can make a build and throw it all in the stash and as long as you are in a safe house or public space you can equip them from your stash when you need them

[viral urchin]

Luckily I have a bunch of level 3-4 improvised gear in the stash that is rolled up with armor and weapon cores. Indestructible for awhile.

[twin gorge]

Biggest items to farm aren't even exotics for me it's always a ceska vest or something I can't craft

I would love a ceska vest blueprint

[viral urchin]

@twin gorge truth, lost my ceska chest yesterday,

[random escarp]

Kind of sad then, haha, I saw a Hardcore that was over 10K. :/ Here, I was thinking, they did it all on that character.

[sly bear]

I got to 5k on one character

And than I was like meh I could use the rss and materials

[twin gorge]

I remember doing at least 10 CD runs on my HC character trying to get ONE double crit ceska vest. I was really salty with RNG lol in those runs

[viral urchin]

Nice , I’m almost at 3,000 now.

[sly bear]

Work smarter not harder

I’m 23k

[viral urchin]

Best bet is to have an extra HC ready to rock when the inevitable happens.

[random escarp]

Still a testament to picking yourself up, but I thought. Anyway, I am no where near that on any of my characters. My main which is a normie is only 3400 but then I got the game back in 2022-ish

[sly bear]

Probably should go outside and touch some grass or something

🤣

[viral urchin]

Grass is overrated we all know that

[sly bear]

My main is 24k

[random escarp]

Though my clan members are all sub-1k and they think I am joking that once you hit 1K getting levels is easy.

[sly bear]

It is easier

[random escarp]

That and once you optimize your build

[sly bear]

You Watch is maxed out so you can do harder content easier

[viral urchin]

Got the 3x xp coming up in a couple weeks!!

Good time to max out your specializations

[random escarp]

I had one clan member that had effective the same build the one I was using and they couldn't figure out why they weren't hitting hard. I looked at their build - CHC - 1.4%, CHD - 1.5% just on their chest piece.

[random escarp]

I do wonder though, how many hardcore players there are actually, and of that percent how many actually go into the darkzone.

[twin gorge]

Few go solo, there are some HC players looking to kill players in the DZ so it's always a risk
I don't see the benefit of going to the DZ

[frozen copper]

Because you were talking above about CHC and CHD.
So, offensive is better than defensive? Or is there a middle ground?
What would you say is the minimum armor, to than spec in red?

[viral urchin]

Dead npc’s can’t shoot back. I usually have 1.1 million armor, bloodsucker bp, secondary with preservation.

[random escarp]

It largely depends on the build you're going for. Me, for something like heroic, I might have a few blue cores just so I am not a glass cannon. But in either case, if you're attributes on your gear and weapons aren't maxed out, for example full 12% CHD then you're build is going to be weak. When I farm for gear or weapons, my first look is, "is there at least one thing I can change to make this perfect" and then the second is if it's going to take a lot to optimize it. Closer to max attribute the better.

The goal if you're doing a DPS or even adding a bit of survivability, get as close to 60% CHC and then dump everything else into CHD.

Now, you can do some crazy stuff with amplified damage. For example, I have a Striker build that has 1.9 mil in armor and can still deal damage because of the striker's gamble. Granted, yes, you're not going to hit as hard as someone running full red.

This isn't my hardcore character, but it's a build I actually really enjoy. #td2-build-advice message

[frozen copper]

@viral urchin @random escarp Thanks

[sly bear]

Depends on what platform. I can’t speak for pc and PS but on xbox there’s quite a few of us. Always seeing either folks running up or in the public space. As for the DZ we go all the time there’s a few of us that run characters up that way for the rush. A few of us go farm. I have prohibited my clan folk from killing other HC agents unless it’s strictly in self defense.

[sly bear]

I believe it’s what your play style is. Each player is different. I have seen almost every build depending on the player, skill builds with armor regen, DPS folks, one shot bonus armor builds and even CC builds. It just al pends on the player and what they’re doing.

Also group vs solo play

And what difficulty your doing

HC is not different from core. It’s exactly the same game. Just if you die you have to start all over and lose whatever you have on you

[random escarp]

When I hit my watch, I unlocked the DZs, and I just went up into the doorway to observe the map. I was surprised as they were active. You can tell when it's empty, because they typically have supply drops. Also, there were only a few landmarks. All three were like that, so I was kind of surprised.

Granted, yes, I haven't checked randomly and it could have just been a single person running around. Though, I do rarely see other HC players in the lobbies. They're kind of like unicorns. Almost. At least for me.

[sly bear]

You can open up the DZs way earlier than before you get to watch. After the 4th mission on the east side is completed DZ officer is available, East is available to discover right away, south is available after level 17, and west is available after 20 but the area recommends you being at 23. The DZ is also now broken up into levels for players, servers for level you may say.

DZ 1 is 0-30, DZ 2 is 31-40, DZ 3 is Watch 0-500, DZ 4 is Watch 501-1000 and DZ 5 is Watch 1000 and above

I am not sure when this happened but we noticed it a few times now while going in to just play recklessly at times

[formal ledge]

Oh great so with me being lvl 935 I'm already in the bracket with lvl 1000's

[sly bear]

I suppose but there is barely anyone in the DZ on HC

[random escarp]

Oh, I know, I am just too lazy to walk myself over there and unlock them sooner.

[sly bear]

It’s easier to unlock them sooner honestly 🤣. Less enemies and your usually like 2 levels higher than the area when you do go unlock them

[random escarp]

Really? I usually just walk right up and unlock and I am done.

Hmm

[sly bear]

The run to East always has a lot of folks

I guess depends what you put your map level on when your at watch

[random escarp]

Oh I have mastered the art of "ninja vanish" when it comes to skirting NPCs

[sly bear]

South isn’t bad it’s a straight shot from American history

And running to the west just those damn outcast are every where

I usually wait until I’m 30 before I go do west

[random escarp]

Oh when my clan members do a session with me, I tend to crack them up because I talk to the NPCs like, "hey, hey, no one has to die today. You don't start nothing, there won't be nonthing."

[sly bear]

🤣 🤣

[random escarp]

Especially when I am trying to run them through the hunters. Though, I am lazy and haven't done the final four in NYC because you know reasons.

Especially the one with the eyes all across the map

Though, I had one sub-40 member jump into my session, which was heroic with more than a few directives on. I just explained all of that to them, and first group of NPCs, "Geronimo!"

and ummm 0.0001 seconds later.....

and after he respawned, I said, "what did we learn?"

[sly bear]

🤣 🤣 🤣

Has anyone noticed when you die you don’t have to do coastal settlement anymore?

[twin gorge]

What? 🧐

You go straight to the WH area?
How does that even work with the character creation thing

[sly bear]

I died last night, death 76, I created a new character and it went to the character creating screen, made my character and bam went straight to DC cut scene and I was in DC running towards the White House

[twin gorge]

Interesting, I've heard there was this weird (pointless) glitch with descent and the coastal area so that's maybe why they bumped the descent level requirements and skipped the coastal area

Too bad I like Sanders ☹️

[sly bear]

Yeah it’s going to make going to the pentagon weird since this characters never met her 🤣

[narrow yarrow]

Question and idk if this where to ask it, I’m looking to start a hardcore character to give me something to do on here, will disconnects possibly kill your character being in the world or is there a safe guard against this now?

Going to start one regardless but would just like to know lol

[twin gorge]

There's a 2 second logout timer for disconnects so if you don't get hit in those 2 seconds you're safe
How quickly the server detects you've disconnected is also a factor

[narrow yarrow]

Appreciate it boss🤙

[twin gorge]

Good luck

[random escarp]

Yeah the same thing happened to me. Though, I honestly didn't know you start getting name brand stuff almost right off the bat. It was crazy around with some Prov below level 10.

[sly bear]

I got some alps back pack level 3

[sly bear]

Playing with other people helps too they can guard your body if you delta. It all depends on what kind of delta. Server resets or shut down you may survive that but alpha 01, or echo 04 or mike DC your body will linger. The game will register you still there so if you are in combat you will probably die. The caveat also is if you fast travel during a DC you could also die.

The game seems unstable at times and I delta’d four or five times yesterday but because I was simply running to ShD tech I didn’t die.

If you see us around you can link up my guys are always running HC

[narrow yarrow]

Appreciate the in depth info, and that sounds good with strength in numbers haha, as I’m the only one in my clan who runs HC

[frank flame]

I just came to my hardcore character and I need help ig she's a lvl 4 or 5 can't remember I just need someone to play with ig

[lean coral]

Is "The White Death" one of the best MR's? It seems no other legendary can meet it's headshot%

[frank flame]

No idea it's been while since I have played the game

[frank flame]

Um hru? Is it stressful playing on a hardcore character?

[worldly loom]

#lfg-hardcore-mode

[frank flame]

I doubt anyone is on xbox

[worldly loom]

Just saying that's the channel to ask for people to play with, not this one.

[frank flame]

My bad sheesh

[lean coral]

???

Hardcore?

[sly bear]

Started reading Y7S1 patch notes labeled Hard Core and was so excited only to be let down that it what they are calling the new modifiers

[sly bear]

So with the new DLC and the boost to 40 for new players they won’t give them any scavenging points will this effect us too? After we die and get back to watch we won’t have scavenging points?

[west heath]

Good point. I would think it wouldn’t change as it’s hc.

[sly bear]

I hope not but I am a pessimist m. I hope it’s only for the boosted 40 characters but it’s sounds like any one simply making new characters period

[sly bear]

So that scavenging points thing starts next season. It doesn’t matter if you buy the DLC or not. Well I guess we will see how this goes. It won’t stop me from playing HC but I will be spending a lot of time wandering around east mall and WONY so I can optimize and recalibrated gear when I die

[sly bear]

What death are folks on in here?

I’m on death 78

I been dying a lot on this new season those frenzied enemies come flying out and get behind me and just melt my crap

[sudden rune]

Is there a way to find out? Because I haven’t been counting.

[sly bear]

Ah nah

I think I’m the only guy who counts his death

I think most it’s an emotional experience so they just don’t count 🤣

I been logging my deaths

[viral urchin]

@sly bear yeah I clip most of my deaths, one of these days I’ll make a compilation. Very traumatic makes you question why you do it in the first place lol. 😵

[sly bear]

Yeah it’s fun to learn though I have clipped most of my deaths too

Besides from DCs and random server shutdowns most of mine I have clipped

[fallen girder]

can we que with softcore agents for raids or is hardcore only

[sly bear]

Yeah you should be able to match make with cores in raids on your HCs

I personally wouldn’t because there’s too many people out there that want to see the world burn 🤣

PC might be a nice place I guess where people aren’t out to get you. On Xbox not so much too many core players think it’s funny to get a HC player killed.

[sly bear]

I would find a good raid group, raid with them on your core to see if they are good, and to show them you can hold your own and know what you are doing, develop a good friendship, and than ask them hey I have a HC you guys mine if I bring in my HC in here

Maybe a trusting relationship

[fallen girder]

iv got a good clan with me it was just i didnt want to que with random players cause i know a few players who will troll to have fun

plus im so over div that the HC was my only option to get me back into the game

[sly bear]

Yeah grab your clan folk they can be all cores and jump in there with them on HC

More fun if everyone is HC though 🤣. Everyone has skin in the game.

[fallen girder]

im trying to get a good group of players on HC so we can run a full HC raid

[sly bear]

My clan is HC and met a buddy about 3 years ago whose clan has a lot of HCs and we teamed up and did both raids and incursions on HC full HC team

[twin gorge]

You shouldn't be able to get invites from softcore players but there's a workaround to let HC players play with SC in a raid.

Since I dunno if it's intended or not I'm not going to go further into it

[sly bear]

I am a 6 year HC player, I got my DH HC patch at WT5. Back in the day. HCs have been able to run with cores in raids since HC was created

Countdown is the same you can match make into countdown on your HC with core players

[storm mauve]

Is it still worth making a HC character now

[sly bear]

It’s not a glitch or a bug

[sly bear]

What do you mean?

[viral urchin]

@storm mauve If you enjoy a challenge it is definitely worth it

[storm mauve]

I've been trying to level my main but also kinda miss the fresh start so wondered if HC was a good change of pace

[sly bear]

Yeah I agree. I enjoy HC very much I do everything on HC. I think it’s even more worth it now more than ever since the coms and echos and commendations are all shared across all characters

Next season will suck for HCs a little because we won’t have scavenging points anymore so those of us who are at 20k+ will kinda be at the same level as the 2ks

No point in going over 2k on your watch anymore. Besides from bragging rights I guess. My HC crew are mostly above 10k except for the new recruits coming in

[storm mauve]

Does scavenging points really do much other than big number and a handful of resources?

[sly bear]

They might as well take away all those exciting 5xp 3xp events, probably good for the new players but their base veteran player base don’t need it

[sly bear]

Just money and rss honestly great to recap and optimize gear. But no nothing else besides that. Back in the day 10k was max health but the devs switched that to 2k after we found out keener was still alive about 2 years ago

[storm mauve]

Gotcha gotcha

[sly bear]

So 2k watch is pretty much the optimal watch level everyone needs

[storm mauve]

Me sitting at 200

[sly bear]

800 would be my first goal for you so you get all the benefits from the watch

But it’s not that bad if your gear and builds are solid

[storm mauve]

I need a good "do everything" build

[sly bear]

The watch is just a bonus, to be honest with you. We had plenty of folks clear raids, incursions even legendaries with watches below 1000, just as long as they know game mechanics and know how to make a good build that hits hard but is survivable

In raids and count down if you work as a team you can pretty much wear an all red build if your team have support folks to keep you alive

[viral urchin]

Dead npc’s don’t shoot back

[sly bear]

Best armor is if you can kill them first they can’t kill you back

[viral urchin]

Bloodsucker always comes in clutch for me.

[sly bear]

I like my Momento hunters fury build with obliterate, 4 reds, 3 blues, chc 58%, chd 160%. Armor on kill, disorients every thing around so kill and confuse them.

Chatterbox and mop

Last season I I went with a 3 pc Legmo, Momento, contractors gloves, and fox’prayers. Obliterate chest with 48% CHC, 135% CHD. Pestilence and shield splinter. My ticks were around 1 mil but with by the teeth I was around 1.8 to 2.1 mil ticks. 4 reds 3 blues.

I run a bunch of different builds depending on what I am doing or what I have in my stash

[viral urchin]

@sly bear been either strikers with the pesti or the 3pc lengmo , different builds for different situations or who I’m playing with.

[sly bear]

I do enjoy a good open world striker build

Heartbreaker this season with those
heated coils is sick

[viral urchin]

@sly bear those coils are top notch, spreads that fire a good distance.

[potent wadi]

Has anyone else tried out the Refactor Gear Set?
I have been testing it for a hardcore run, and I have been surprised at how tanky it is, along with the survivability of the set.
I am running all skill damage on the set itself with haste mods and two empress pieces. I tried the messengers backback, but honestly the Rafactor backpack is so worth the extra armor bonus, until I now prefer it (as you are almost always solo in HC these days).

[sly bear]

Yeah the ninja bike messenger backpack isn’t worth wearing unless you are trying to make power punch build with armor and weapon damage to combo multiple brand sets together in a PvP setting

Refractor isn’t a bad build, I think it’s more for team game play

Ask in LFG Hardcore Channel

[potent wadi]

It wasn't horrible with the Ninja Messenger Backpack. I was using 2 Empress - Mask (skill haste mod) and Holster, 3 Refactor - Chest (Haste mod) gloves and knees, 1 Ninja M. Backpack. I prioritized Skill Damage on everything that I could. Skills - Striker Drone & Turret. Weapons - Capacitor w/ rifle & pistol both 'in-sync'.
That gave me the Skill Efficiency on the Empress, while also giving 4 pieces of refactor for the full effect of the set.
However, I did have some really close calls from explosives (etc), so I dropped the Ninja and replaced with the Refactor backpack.. It proved to be so much safer, I used it to grind out several priority objectives and missions I needed to clean up.
Not a terrible build for solo; it's actually a pretty 'safe' set.
Right now running a different set but I enjoyed testing it out, no doubt about it.

[sly bear]

I started running a solo HC character up just for funsies. It’s been awhile since I have so many friends willing to drop everything to come help me in a heartbeat

What I have discovered is that there are mile stone caches now and it’s pretty neat

It’s kind of fun and encouraging

[twin gorge]

Is it just gear?

[sly bear]

Just gear to help you survive

[potent wadi]

a pretty op set each time I think.. the last milestone was so good I wore it until I hit 40

[sly bear]

Yeah rigger is pretty nice

I had no idea

Not usually a skill build guy but rigger is insane

[twin gorge]

Skill builds do scale the levels better than weapon or armor builds
Especially if you're solo

[potent wadi]

Skill builds have been working for me, because even though I advertise religiously for any to join, I find you are almost always solo. Running more than one loadout right now, but the main one is indeed a skill build.

[grim herald]

Is hardcore gear stash separate, and do you loose it all if you die or just what the hardcore agent was wearing if you set up a new hardcore agent? How about skills? Do you expertise them up again?

[twin gorge]

Separate
You don't lose stash on a char death, just the inventory on the character
Skill expertise is permanent and across all characters, normal or HC

[dapper radish]

i saw a gift thing for a sec lol

[worldly loom]

It was a scam

Anyone advertising a free gift in discords is always a scam

[dapper radish]

ohh ok, thanks for letting me know ;D ❤️

[split vine]

Good to see some pc guys around, might try another run

[potent wadi]

come on in 😁. If you need backup holler

[agile swallow]

Hey Agents. I have played this game from the beginning and I have never known what hardcore mode is about. Is it like other games where if you die you lose the character?

[narrow yarrow]

Yep, you have your single life, a stash that’s only accessible to hardcore characters, and a whole different shd watch from your main. Basically just think of it as everything separate with one life. I haven’t looked back since I came over to it haha, a fun rush for sure if you got the patience to get everything again

[stable ore]

I dunno if they changed it or what but I was able to access weapons I put in my stash on my other account today.

I just made the switch from console to PC and the only weapons in my stash are the lvl 30 weapons you get from the free caches (I think for having the boost purchased? Idk it's been so long since I played Division 2) so that may be why but I'm kind of doubtful on that

[crystal rivet]

I’m SHD 20 and beat entire black tusk invasion twice. When can I go to NY on hardcore?

[frozen copper]

Let's assume, the main goal of the hardcore-agent is not to die.
Which activity would you never risk to run, like, summit floor 100, or so?
I know, i know, there are hardcore raiders out there, but would you take the risk?

[twin gorge]

That's easy, DZ

[fluid arrow]

Risk on Hc are only rogues atm.. Becuase there skills are randomed.. 🙂 Summit 100 easy.. Raids easy.. Legendary's easy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_y2w6eJxdc

[sly bear]

No one is in the DZ in HC, it’s mostly safe. If you go go with a buddy. Be prepared but it’s usually quiet since there’s so little of us

There’s nothing I won’t do on HC it’s the same exact game, have faith in your build and your teammates and you should be good. Practice on core for extreme content to get a feel for what works and what doesn’t but otherwise I do everything on HC

[twin gorge]

I wouldn't say no one, yes it's empty most of the time but you can see other HC agents sometimes
But HC is mostly about control and I don't want to lose control if someone decides they want to kill me.
But also what's in the dz a HC needs at this point? Only thing really interesting is the raid exotics but it's such a low chance it's not even worth it (and I'm ignoring how really useful an eagle bearer and ravenous is for a HC agent)

HC agents also have a bit of mistrust with other players because of countdown and some of them trying to get HC agents killed there

[twin gorge]

Also coastal settlement is still skipped on new character
I do wonder if they removed it to save space for the dlc 🤔

[sudden rune]

Is the 'can only choose pulse skill' thing fixed?

[twin gorge]

Still the same

Can only select pulse

[sudden rune]

Ok thanks

[twin gorge]

Hmm they made the restocking armor kits perk free
It forces you like the pulse to choose it first

[sudden rune]

Interesting...

[sly bear]

Yeah the whole pulse thing was announced before the last PTS for hunting Kelso all new players including HC deaths must chose the pulse first. It is the first skill they want everyone to choose. It was how it was intended dev said. They don’t want you to rely on just your skill tech but knowledge of how to play and how to use tactical cover to cover maneuvers.

That’s not going to be fixed it was said it was already fixed to be that way

[sudden rune]

Fair enough.

[sly bear]

Yeah it’s very annoying as HCs, but the Devs don’t care about us HCs, we were a side project that never became anything. Those of us who enjoy the gameplay just have to live with the changes they made for newer players or returning players. Can’t complain too much since we have a stash now.

[sly bear]

Wow PC HCs sound brutal. Most HCs on Xbox become friends almost immediately our community is pretty tight we have some wierd drama between some players but otherwise it’s usually pretty cordial and mostly respectful

[twin gorge]

Oh that's definitely not the case on PC from my experience. You'll see HC players in safe areas and such and pretty much everyone minds their own business. Maybe a wave but that's it between HC players. In game stuff I've rarely seen initiatives

There's communities of course, and I see backup calls frequently but backup calls are tricky because you don't know what you're spawning into. If the system was different I would definitely do a lot more of them

Most people are chill don't get me wrong, but here and there there's some bad apples

[twin gorge]

Any HC agent got the caretaker? Seems extremely challenging 😕

[sly bear]

Yeah because you have to answer like 3 Shepard back up calls for it

Not many HCs calling for back up in the game

Plus I know 95% of the HC players on Xbox so I won’t get any Shepard rank on HC

Can’t be your friend and can’t be in your clan

[twin gorge]

Is it 3 calls? That's like level 5, think it's 8 to get
People on SC are cheesing it by unfriending so HC is even worse
But on HC I've tried it and matchmaking doesn't go anywhere, at least for me

[sly bear]

Yeah you can try to unfriend your HC friends and than keep them in the party and have them call for back up and do the same thing. On core right now it’s super easy on Xbox because the game is free on game pass

If you share a discord you can unfriend on pc and stay in a discord voice chat and try to do it that way too I dunno

[coral lake]

If i go in the dz as an hc, will i face hc players or normal players ?

i assume hc but eh i better make sure

[narrow yarrow]

You’ll only see other hardcore if there are any in there, the only time HCs can play or match with normal players if you will is countdown or raids

[coral lake]

Alright

[round mauve]

@fluid arrow You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[blazing moth]

Do you get any added cool stuff for grinding out a hardcore character?

[sudden rune]

A ‘YOLO’ hat at level 2, commendation points and patches for completing Capitol Building and Tidal Basin, and a commendation/patch for completing one of the raids (can’t remember which!)

That’s it.

The real benefit comes from the “joy” of knowing that if you screw up, you have to start all over again.

[blazing moth]

yeah lmfao i love hardcore stuff lol

thanks

[sly bear]

DH HC commendation patch

I believe it makes folks a better player, consequences for being negligent, complacent and or just plain crazy. Forces players to think and be more aware.

[sudden rune]

Thanks, couldn’t remember off the top of my head!

[sly bear]

Unless you just like playing in story mode all the time, which honestly I have come to enjoy a bit. I have died a lot last season, the most I believe I have ever died. My plan this new season is to learn the modifiers, figure out what works best for me and than make a build suitable for HC and play with more awareness

[sudden rune]

I don't play any lower than Challenging. Died yesterday to a BSOD outside of a CP in Brooklyn. Normally I'd survive a couple of seconds of damage, but those CP's with the rockets are a pain in the backside.

[grim herald]

I got my turret but still don’t have hive. Moving forward slowly on the levels. Is it recommended to do a lot of stuff on the side from missions and side mission before taking them on?

[sudden rune]

I like to be a level above the missions, so I do side missions between missions.

[worldly loom]

XP rewards for side missions and projects scale with your level, but main missions on story difficulty don't, so it's generally better to focus the main missions as soon as you're close enough in level to do them safely, and store up side ones and turning in projects until you need the xp.

[twin gorge]

Yeah side missions should be kept to the latter stage
But I imagine playing solo you kinda need to do them since the progression is a bit slower

[grim herald]

Thanks guys 😊 I’m feeling the no safety net, possibly overly so as I play quite active normally and it’s my first HC. Hope to put together a nice regen build with a bit of blue in it at some point early plus securing that hive firstly.

[sly bear]

So this is what I do when I solo run up. I will firstly do Grand Washington and Jefferson trade center. They open you second skill slot and safe houses become available to discover, however you can discover safe houses anytime before that.

Those two missions also give you inaya the crafting lady and opens up perks.

Like agent aeijm I try to stay level or higher above the next area. So I will do liberation projects from safe houses and take over each section cp wise before moving on to the next. Before View point I will take navy plaza

And so on and so forth, I save side missions after I have completed the invaded stronghold tier map, to get to 38. Meanwhile working on campus and theater projects along the way but not turning them in.

Once I get to 38 1/4 and I have all the campus and theater projects done I turn them in and viola I’m at watch

That’s how I do it solo others may do it differently but sometimes I try to get to watch before I even do capital before invadeds just so I can have a build to breeze through the invadeds and tidal

[sudden rune]

#lfg-hardcore-mode

[spark vortex]

tyty

[sudden rune]

#lfg-hardcore-mode

[round mauve]

@past prawn Tagging either channel in here is not doing anything.
Head to the channel that the people are suggesting.

[clever scaffold]

Does the Revive hive work on HC ?🤔

[sudden rune]

Yes, sometimes.

Sometimes you'll be continuously shot at so you die before it revives you. If you're disrupted by Black Tusk or a Hunter, it won't work, unless you have 100% Hazpro.

[clever scaffold]

Ty for the reply , its my first rodeo on HC .🙂

[spark vortex]

why cant i do descent on my HC im lvl 11 and cant do it now b4 i could

[sly bear]

I believe they increased to level 24 before you can go in there.

[clever scaffold]

When you call for backup on HC , is it only HC agents that will /can respond ?

[twin gorge]

Yep only HC players

[clever scaffold]

Thx for the reply !

[sudden rune]

And good luck getting anyone to join. I for one ain't jumping blind into people's problems

[twin gorge]

You can try and do an inspect, some players are doing the campaign so it should be safe
Players with watch yeah gotta be careful

[clever scaffold]

Ye , am still going trough the campaign atm (lvl 22) . I would like to do some backup calls when I go to new york . especially with the main missions there , like keener .

[sly bear]

I will answer it too bad I am on Xbox

I need more caretakers

🤣

I am like friends with 95% of the HC players on Xbox so when I answer a call I am not getting endorsed

With the influx of new players I did get one though so not too shabby

[rugged ermine]

Anyone got a maxed out hardcore character

[proud jasper]

yeah whats up?

[sly bear]

What’s a maxed out HC character?

My watch is 24k does that count?

[golden depot]

Any tips for hardcore mode?

just trying to get the Tidal basin award

[twin gorge]

Don't die

Seriously just take your time in things, don't rush things especially during the campaign
If you're in big big trouble logout or fast travel

[spark vortex]

still need help??? im finally back to 40 haha

[sly bear]

Make sure you have the gear at the level you are on you don’t necessarily need a build but gear consistently to your level helps keep you alive. And weapons at your level will hit the right amount of damage. Since they took away World tiers I am at watch before I even get to Tidal most time so I can wear a build before Tidal, but it has to be done on story anyways so it’s just makes it a breeze

[weak lotus]

Me personally, I find an assault rifle with good stability and I sit in cover mid to long range from enemies where possible. Shotgun secondary to deal with rushers. Bloodsucker on my backpack and unbreakable on my chest. Striker drone and the revive hive skills.

[proud jasper]

i personally find building into armor on kill and armor regen while having preservation on my guns to be the most consistent in early and late game. sure you will be a little bit slower in the damage department but huge survivability especially if you make a mistake. and dont forget to equip the reviver

[sly bear]

I do have a cheesy way also but I’m too scared to share it Incase devs see it and take it away 🤣

Screw it they usually don’t care so might as well I guess

[proud jasper]

is it the shield that thing its kinda broken for hardcore?

lol

[sly bear]

So one of my guys found this out recently, if you are below 39, and you have a full library, you can recalibrate your gear to 40. If you have the money and resources at 31 you can recalibrate your gear with 40 level attributes, if you are an old timer like myself you also have a maxed out wt5 level 30 library so if you have the money and rss below 30 and have Emma opened you can recalibrate your gear to level 30

It’s ridiculously cheesy, you are a freaking god pretty much

[proud jasper]

intresting find... i personally like hardcore for the grind and the risk so this find isnt appealing to me but it would be intresting if it was intentional for expierence players to find

[twin gorge]

That's not really a secret though
It's used in under 30 as well 😅

[proud jasper]

oh cool

[twin gorge]

New chars use boosted char recal table and dump the l30 armor on gear

[sly bear]

I had no idea, the issue is you have to get the money to do it right

[proud jasper]

i guess im bad at using the bench properly lol thanks for the info tho

[twin gorge]

With stash or booster that's not a big problem

Solo first time yeah an issue

[sly bear]

So you are spending time to farm bounties for cash or selling things

Rss too because you can’t share rss until 30

[twin gorge]

You're not spending time on bounties
You either have l40 trash on the stash to sell on a new character or a booster drops items during missions

[sly bear]

Oh yeah that’s right

Use your other HC watch to recap in stash

I normally don’t do this method because like nature I like the risk plus I have 2 clans of folks on HCs to boost me

I have to ask people not to help me when I die if I want to solo 99% of the time

[twin gorge]

Even with one char, you know you're going to lose it, you put garbage items in the stash and the new char can take it and have credits
But yeah it's a choice

[sly bear]

I have three

One is a back up to keep running if I die in a raid or incursion and he holds extra builds

One is specifically for raids, incursions, and legendaries

And one I run open world with

I know we have a stash now that holds 450 items. But I like to be prepared so I don’t have to immediately go into story mode play when I die 🤣. I can go through the 5 stages of grief on my own time 🤣

[twin gorge]

You still grief your lost HC chars?

[sly bear]

🤣 I do because I die from stupid mistakes. Being to cocky or over confident or just doing something stupid and I am like ah “that was dumb why the hell did I do that.”

I’m on death 78

Knock on wood I haven’t died in awhile

Last season was bad

They out flanked me so many times those modifiers letting the enemies sprint super fast

78 death in 7 years isn’t too bad though I think

28 deaths during this past season though was rough

These new modifiers this season though are kinda nice

The first modifier season was excellent

[clever scaffold]

I was completely surprised that i can use the lexington AR from my softcore char on my HC char .👀

[narrow yarrow]

Just don’t die with it, the “maybe” we always get from the devs when that question is asked makes me question whether we’ll truly ever get more of them or it added fully

[round mauve]

Yannick has said that it will come back, but it won't be just an LZ drop.

[golden depot]

Is descent in hardcore a thing? What happens if you die in it?

[narrow yarrow]

Yep it’s in hardcore, believe it’s unlocked at level 20 now but I don’t remember off the top of my head. Since it’s a simulation, dying has no effect in it and doesn’t count in the real world, it’s one way you can safely farm xp albeit kinda slow.

[weak lotus]

If there’s an XP event on and the game is unstable for what ever reason, I’m straight over to descent

[sly bear]

I enjoy descent but the levels are terrible xp wise in there and it’s not bad during an xp event but I only go in there to get my coms and exotic

[golden depot]

what does that mean?

[golden depot]

lvl 30 fox prayer is kinda cursed

[twin gorge]

Wdym?
New HC players can use the recalibration table from a l40 HC player to put more armor on their gear
As long as they have the value in their l30 library

[golden depot]

ah that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying .

[grim herald]

Is it possible to join non hard core players for a descent run? I’m level 20+ but could not group up/invite

[twin gorge]

Nope

[grim herald]

So sad

[wraith nexus]

hi guys, how are you?
can me somebody tell, which benefits i have when i choose hardcore mode?

[vast rune]

You get some apparel items such as hats and patches when doind commendations and bragging rights

[sly bear]

The extreme feeling and accomplishment of completing the game on a level where you never die.

[vast rune]

i mean i did get really annoyed when i died in a side mission but i was only lvl 11 ish

[sly bear]

Save your side missions for after 30.

[vast rune]

but would it not help me lvl up so it's easier to take on the main missions?

[sly bear]

Do the campus and theater projects along with the safe house liberation projects

Take on control points and open world activities

[vast rune]

oh yh thx for the help, i ussually ignore them

[sly bear]

Between liberation projects and making an area of the map friendly you should be ok to be a few levels higher than the next mission

Save your theater and campus projects to turn in when you get to 38 1/4 and it will get you to watch when you get there

[vast rune]

i think with me new one im only lvl 9, i've been building some gear sets on my main acc

i've kind of neglected it buti'll get on it over th weekend

[vast rune]

will do

[sly bear]

If you need more help I run a clan of HCs and am alliances with another HC clan

We do everything in the game

If you need help let me know my discord name is the same as my gamer tag

I died at the army terminal on heroic 🤣. So I am running a guy up

[vast rune]

alr thanks, i'll take a look at it

[golden depot]

Woo! Capital hill + Tidal basin done. Only have to do dark hours. Thats its own issue lol.

anything else for hardcore that im missing?

[grim herald]

I’ve finally reached level 31 and have shared stuff and blueprints. What is the easiest way to get some cash into hardcore agent? Build is still weak but got 4 blue cored regen parts and 2 red.

[viral urchin]

@grim herald if I’m really strapped for money I’ll go through all the tunnel systems, especially by Lincoln. There’s a lot of loot boxes throughout all of them. Plus there’s faction keys..

[sly bear]

Builds aren’t that important below 40, just as long as you have the current level gear on is pretty much all you need the base armor is honestly what is the most important thing to keep you alive. There’s always boxes near safe houses and shd tech as well

[tardy jungle]

And reviver hive just in case because sometimes a random things can be happen.

[sly bear]

Recover hive to me is a false security blanket

[tardy jungle]

Well it depends what u doing and what difficulty. I mostly running just challenging probably this is why I’m just shd466 with my hardcore agent

But the most enjoying part is challenging countdown with the hardcore agent

[sly bear]

I love raids and incursions on my HC

[kind ledge]

On PS curious if there are any HC focused clans kicking about? If so how active and how many players?

Me and 2 of my friends have been playing HC for a while now and loving it, play it more than normal though we are not the best players were down to take advice from those who know better.

I know there is a chat for clans but posted here as i scanned through but did not notice any HC focused ones 🤷‍♂️

[tardy jungle]

My clan is pretty inactive, but if you guys need a 4th HC player for a mission, u can give me a shout

[kind ledge]

Cool ill keep that in mind 😁 thankyou.
There are 3 of us as i said, im currently running DPS striker, my partner is a Messured Healer and my pal is a Foundry Tank

Had our first run in with rouge agents during District Union today.. gave us a run for our money and took us by suprise... those guys are horrid 🤣
But made me think may be worth looking for a group

[tardy jungle]

I have one hearbreaker-night watcher build with continuously pulsed opponents. Also did an armor-regen skill build what is kind of funny and useful for heroic. Probably starting to build up my new funny main character build with my HC agent too. It’s an explosive healer mine and explosive reviver hive 🙂 Kind of funny build 🙂

[kind ledge]

Cool 😁

[sly bear]

This is why I wish there was crossplay

My clan is a HC clan we are about 30 players active HC

We are alliances with another clan that has about 20 HC players

And share a discord with 184 HC players

[viral urchin]

PS is hit or miss with HC players let alone clans. I actually got a back up call the other day. I was shocked beyond belief first time on HC.

[twin gorge]

PS have some seriously hardcore hardcore players
One of them soloed paradise lost and Manning on hardcore
Japanese though afaik so different region

[sly bear]

Good luck getting on those servers

Isn’t the Chinese or Asian Division different too though they have all those pay to win things. White House looks like a rave party

[viral urchin]

Yeah that guy is a beast for that run. I know a good amount of hard-core players only problem is it’s either run raids or run raids lol

[sly bear]

Wish that was the case here on Xbox it took forever to get HC raids done. Raiders don’t really care for HC and HCs aren’t super keen on running raids.

There’s like maybe 4 to 6 of us who want to but it’s so damn hard to get folks to join up

We completed DH 8 person 4 years ago and it took us a year to convince HC players to stop wearing blue cores in there

[viral urchin]

We had finally gotten eight people from our former clan to do hard-core raids than real life stepped in so what can you do?

Blue core is not good in there. I understand why people would think it, but you need to get those enemies down before they overwhelm you.

[sly bear]

We did a few 8 person HC IHs but once everyone got their regulus and ravs it kinda stopped

[viral urchin]

Dark hours, I know like the back of my hand, but Iron Horse I was never a fan of even less so if it’s gonna be on my hard-core but I sure do miss having that regulus. I can understand people being nervous with IH. Lots of places for team wipes.

[sly bear]

Well we stashed so you only use out when you need them

I love IH

[viral urchin]

Always have that backup character or two ready

[sly bear]

DH is just super easy it’s just a DPS check

IH is more mechanics and thoughts

[viral urchin]

Can’t argue with that definitely a DPS check minimal mechanics and as I say that there’s a team somewhere still on the tarmac after 25 minutes lol

[twin gorge]

Only China, japanese play the same game we do
Raids with HC only is also a challenge on PC, people can get the DH commendation with SC players and then they mostly stop bothering with HC
Shame really

[viral urchin]

I know what you mean we would take FTC’s through and then somebody would switch to their HC at the end. Kind of defeats the purpose, but to each their own.

[sly bear]

Yeah

☹️

[twin gorge]

During the caretaker event PC HC players were helping out each other, very wholesome
Running Lincoln on loop
There's players but understandably you don't risk your char at higher difficulty activities if you don't know the player

[viral urchin]

I got a regulus from the seasonal extension boxes on my hard-core and lost it a few days ago. So iron horse is in my future one way or the other..

[viral urchin]

That was the first time I had seen that many hard-core players come out of the woodwork at one time. Feel like I could do Lincoln with my eyes closed at this point now.

Correct me if I’m wrong but when leveling a new character before you could do DUA and Roosevelt then capital when you hit level 30 wouldn’t you have to have all the missions completed prior?

[twin gorge]

Afaik you still have to

[viral urchin]

Two days ago I was able to do do dua and Roosevelt at level 26 and I still had federal and bank not finished.

[twin gorge]

Bunker (activate SHD network) is locked by space admin/Jeff plaza, capitol is locked by 30 and Dua/Roosevelt

Solo? No booster?

[viral urchin]

Solo no booster, made sure to take screenshots because I couldn’t believe my eyes

Was also able to put DUA and Roosevelt on hard and I would of sworn you were forced to do those on story mode first

[twin gorge]

Yeah I noticed that as well

[sly bear]

Strange the game is glitching out yo

[twin gorge]

The being able to do Dua/Roosevelt is what's weird

Especially with bank not completed

There's some bugs in the campaign for sure

[viral urchin]

Going to logon right now because if memory serves me correct I actually did Roosevelt before DUA, which is even crazier

[sly bear]

It probably won’t happen but I really hope there is HC mode in Div 3

[twin gorge]

I hope so too
I could be very wrong but I think div 3 will have seasonal characters. So hopefully we get an extra character slot for a HC character

[grim herald]

I’m unable to open my level 35 milestone cache with some reference to unequivocally an exotic I’m not carrying. Now at watch level 3 and still can’t open it with same message. Any known fix? It worked fine before on mules soft chars.

[viral urchin]

I’ve had the same issue, 1 time I could open it , then the next character couldn’t. Just ended up deleting it.

[safe gazelle]

unequip any exotic weapons/armors you have equipped first.

[grim herald]

Does not help.

[sly bear]

Nope still can’t open it

They broke something with that thing I thought maybe because my stash has a whole bunch of exotics but I met some new HCs the other day and they have no exotics at all and still can’t open it

[viral urchin]

@sly bear not able to reconfigure the capacitor out of that box either.

[sly bear]

Yeah it’s supposed to be for new players to get to test a new exotic for the first time and teach them how they work properly with a complimenting build such as rigger

All you can do with it after you surpass 35 is sell it

You also can’t dismantle it for exotic components

[worldly loom]

Yeah there seems to be a bug since Tuesday's patch so no-one can open that cache whether or not they have any exotics.

[sharp bone]

started a HC character so I can take advantage of upcoming 5XP.. i forgot when do I get Inaya?

I just finished Washington hotel

[twin gorge]

Level 30
As in shared materials and blueprints
You recruit her after like 3 or 4 missions

[sly bear]

Inaya is available after Jefferson trade center

[short latch]

Is there any content I should skip or be weary of? I have a boosted character but figured I'd rerun the game through hc to get better.

I'm assuming dz is a no go? And descent is safe to farm?

[twin gorge]

Imo you should avoid countdown if you can farm what you want n summit, it can be buggy and a few people might want to try and kill your character there, so go there if a) you're experienced enough to know CD well or b) you got friends in the same CD lobby protecting you
DZ not sure why you would farm there
Descent is safe from permadeath

There are some mechanics in missions that you have to be careful of as well

[short latch]

Yeah i don't see myself immediately jumping into cd as I did on my boosted character, but that's a good tip, especially about the griefers. Dz just Moreso for specific loot but it's really not needed.

Season journey is about done on my.boosted character how does that pertain to hc? I can't unlock anything else really

[twin gorge]

journey is account wide so it's also done on HC

[frozen copper]

Not only that my agent died, i also lost St. Elmo (DTTOOC) , Pestilence and my Turmoil knee pads.
Who would be so nice and spend an hour to unlock the save houses with me, so i don't spend days
running from one end of the map to the other.

[twin gorge]

Damn losing turmoil, everything else you can get back
I would help but I'm on PC

[sly bear]

Sorry for the loss man

[sly bear]

It seems like a lot of new HC folks are asking this particular question. I am a Day 1 player, I am not telling you this because I am bragging but only that HC was not released until about 6 months after the game came out which means I got to learn the game and builds and tactics and strategies before HC existed. I learned how to play the game on my core and how to tweak my builds on my core. I don’t think there’s anything I would avoid on HC. Maybe work your way up slowly in difficult of the game, make sure your build is solid and test them on core before you spend the time on HC farming for it. Just remember it’s not if you die it’s when you die. I like dying in a blaze of glory. Epic death story 🤣

Also try not to play alone find yourself a good community.

[sharp bone]

what is transferrable/accessible from softcore in hardcore?

[sudden rune]

Nothing in terms of weapons and armour.

[sharp bone]

of course I know that.. what IS transferrable was the question

[potent wadi]

You are so spot on about "it's not IF you die it's WHEN you die". Knowing the content, spawn points, etc makes a huge difference, until that one day you get a little too confident, push to hard, or get cocky, then boom "Delete Agent"

[sly bear]

I don’t know about transferable but what ever skill you expertise they will also be expertised on your HC. When you get to 30 you can share materials and blue prints from what you earned on your core. That’s about it. Oh and any decent blueprints you have earned will also be available on HC with share blue prints open at 30.

[sharp bone]

great.. thanks.. that's what i was asking..do credits earned in countdown, DZ or descent transfer as well?

transfer is maybe a bad word.. are they accessible on HC character is more accurate I guess.

[sly bear]

Countdown credits are also shared

Not DZ though

Decent is yes

[sharp bone]

so blueprints, materials, countdown credits and descent.. that's great news... thanks.

so you really lose what you have on you and the time leveling up to 30 is really where the grind is.. that's not too bad honestly. Similarly to Diablo 4 I play a lot in HC.. it's good to see this working similarly in Div 2 as well

I'm assuming the stash items are still accessible even if you die correct?

[sly bear]

Yes

You make a back up build so when you die you have one ready to go

My raid and incursion builds are also in my stash

[sharp bone]

yup yup.. that's usual practice for sure I've grown acustomed to. For each stage basically I have a build and I stash it once passed for re-leveling

[sudden rune]

Maybe you should be more specific next time. We have had a lot of new people coming in who could ask that vague question and not know that.

[short latch]

As far as shared blueprints go if your character dies do you gotta unlock that shit again

[sudden rune]

You have to buy the shared blueprints from Inaya at level 30 again.

[short latch]

Okay gotcha

[weak lotus]

If I remember right, any stars you earn on global events on softcore you can then log in on HC and buy caches etc with them

[sly bear]

Earn them on HC, it’s a lot more fun that way. Plus each objective you complete each day gives your HC xp

[split vine]

What build is every rocking on their hc atm?

I usually play herioc but of course have none the usual kit. Heartbreaker is helping some.

[twin gorge]

Striker with 2 cores
Hunters fury for just running around doing priority objectives
Eclipse for XP farming

Don't like determined builds

[sly bear]

I run umbra initiative, contractors Momento pestilence most of the time. I love my chatterbox huntersfury Momento sokolov obliterate build.

[sudden rune]

With this season’s modifiers:

Backfire + UIC15 w/Streamlined

3 pc blue Hunter’s Fury
1pc Ceska w/Obliterate
1pc Belstone
Ninjabike Backpack

4 rolls Hazpro, 2 rolls Wep Handling, 1 roll CHC

Without modifiers I replace Belstone with Cavalier.

(Hate on the Ninjabike, idc)

[short latch]

Just got my watch. Having only two characters and the other boosted i didn't know I had to do the three strongholds twice so long

[twin gorge]

It used to be worse, you had to do 3 missions for each stronghold 💀
They made the invaded part a lot more easy and bearable

[split vine]

Obtaining the watch without completing wony is an improvement also. I might actually complete all the side missions.

[short latch]

I've got 8 side missions and like 4 main left before I move on to wony

[sly bear]

So I died my 84th death last night. And for what ever reason I shot the flare at capitol and my world did not progress. No invadeds, no timer. Just sat at the regular nothing map with a locked out tidal that says needs to be invaded to be completed

[worldly loom]

Were you in your own session or someone else's?

[sly bear]

One of my other buddies died and was at invadeds so I jumped in with him to do invaded strongholds

[sly bear]

It was my map and I was group lead when I shot the flare

[worldly loom]

Need to do both capitol and all the invaded strongholds in your own session for it to progress correctly

[sly bear]

Tidal is still locked even after I got the gate house

[worldly loom]

Maybe try capitol again (on story difficulty)

[sly bear]

Yeah I will try that and see

It’s so weird I am at watch but I can’t do anything 🤣

Turned tidal to hornet and can’t turn it back

Says tidal needs to be invaded, when is tidal not invaded?

But yeah I will try Capitol on story again on story and see if the map progresses.

[sly bear]

That fixed it thanks, my world advanced three times cause I did finished invadeds before tidal. I will keep this in mind and put it down in trouble shoots thanks again for your help

[twin gorge]

That's always the case, if capitol is unlocked, you complete it and no invaded message pops up you got to do it again on your map

[short latch]

God damn 84 deaths lol is their like a counter or something

[sly bear]

It was my nap

I ran it on my own

[sly bear]

I keep track of all my deaths. I video tape them and write them down to make sure I don’t get killed the same way

The first 8 was me trying to get to WT1

[sly bear]

I shot the flare and nothing happened. A buddy was at invadeds so I jumped in with him and got my invadeds done

[short latch]

All main missions complete in DC, having to do em twice is kind annoying lol. Black tusk are stupid

[worldly loom]

At least you only need to do the invaded strongholds now, used to be you had to do 6 invaded missions as well

[sly bear]

Which missions did you have to do twice? I think just the strongholds are needed twice once story once invaded

[split vine]

Does going to wony still lock out your dc side missions?

I note going to brooklyn doesnt

[twin gorge]

No it doesn't

It only locks if you boost which is something you can't do in HC
You can travel back anytime you want

[viral urchin]

@split vine I went to Wony unlocked my safe houses, and all my side missions in DC are still there.

[short latch]

When did you guys feel safe moving difficulty to challenging or heroic?

[sudden rune]

I move to challenging + directives once I’m level 40. I either have a build ready in the stash or I craft one.

[bold quarry]

Dearest devs. Please stop starting giving me this bullshit sniper to start out with.

[split vine]

Im on challenging atm and its heroic at times. Cps are herioc often due to activties being done. The ambushes are a problem at times. Im using heartbreaker. The mods are bad atm. But the moderate risk is worth the better drops. I cannt do enough damage on heroic so thats a no go. Need to min max the crit elements and weapon damage.

[sly bear]

I play on challenging with directives as soon as I get to watch and I have a build ready to go. I will run heroic in a team if everyone is capable and I trust that they can hold their own. My clan and another do raids, incursions, legendaries and Mastery missions. Ran into a random HC player who was boasting that he had all these exotics and I had to chime in that I had 3 oroborous’ 2 eagle bears, 2 ravenous and 3 regulus 🤣

Oh and 1 bighorn

[split vine]

Lol i would rather have a Lexington for my hc toon than any exotic.

[short latch]

I've been trying to find a clan that's got a sizable hc side but haven't found any, although I haven't really looked in game lol.

I feel I could probably do challenging as my dps is okay but I can get overwhelmed by the hard guys cause my armor is pretty shit

[weak lotus]

Can’t beat a good old Elmo’s, just for the mag size alone

[split vine]

Its good for sure and still has uses but imho is defo bested now.

[grim herald]

I stopped using my Lexington in fear of loosing it. Currently running with shield splinterer instead 😂

[split vine]

I kept both mine to the main toon otherwise would have lost one by now. Shame its not in the loot pool.

[sly bear]

Yeah I have a Lexington in my stash but I’m not using a weapon I can’t farm for. I honestly don’t care about the unattainable exotics that much just a trophy to be honest with you. I do like the EB and I do use the rave in IH to stagger Morazova

[grim herald]

I have the iron lung and shield splinterer. Will run pesti instead when it drops at some point.

[sudden rune]

I've lost 1 Lexington. The other stays on SC.

[sly bear]

I don’t play on core that much unless it to test new content or dry run raids and incursions with HCs I haven’t played with, otherwise, I am on my HC character

[viral urchin]

Same lol

[short latch]

Keener gave me a pucker moment ngl

[sudden rune]

On every new agent I make since one-endgame, I’ve skipped Keener.

[sly bear]

I am too much of a completionist not to finish keener off. Plus on story mode he is just really easy to kill. Shoot out his defender drone and than have any shotgun the ton of shock ammo around keep him in place and melt his face off

Plus most of us are at 40 with watches and you can throw in a decent build and steam roll that mission and pseudo keener

[sudden rune]

I do it to avoid Rogue Agents. They don't ever spawn if you've not killed Keener.

[short latch]

Luckily I had enough game sense to ignore keener and shoot all his bs but at first I was like this fights gonna kill me isn't it lmao. But yeah being my first hc char I've got nothing set aside for this character. I got.kinda lucky tho and been using ceska grupo mixed in with a little bit of defense

I just got my strikers set though so now rocking that and gotta get better weapons

[sly bear]

For next time you can build striker stacks on all those skill boxes before he jumps down and be at full stacks and melt his face off after you take down his defender drone

[short latch]

I got clapped being a bot in Brooklyn lmao cced to death. Went more dps and lost a ton of hazpro and got absolutely rinsed lmfao @sly bear

[split vine]

The game has got a lot more brutal re hazpro. The reach of flamers is so far and seems to go around cover.

[sly bear]

That purple flame in Brooklyn is also the same fire in the incursion not only does it burn but there’s a toxic that sticks with you awhile and will eat away at your health even after the fight is over

[split vine]

So i lost my toon whilst equipped with rigger build i had crafted. With my non hc toon i go to craft rigger build and the bps are no longer there. Before i report this. Has anyone else lost blue prints in a similar way?

[grim herald]

I believe I had blueprint for foxes that are now gone. But only 98% sure.

[sly bear]

🤔 now I got to go look

[unborn fiber]

Hello all quick question. Since it is 5x xp. If im below 40 and run decent will I still get the 5x xp? I lost my toon and wanna skip the grind tbh.

[twin gorge]

No, 5xp is only when you hit 40

[unborn fiber]

alright thanks 😢

[twin gorge]

If you need a boost (safehouse unlock, some missions with directives) I can help in the next two hours or so
Just don't expect a full boost but it's better than nothing

[short latch]

Lol wait people boost in hc?

How does that even work? Like it don't take that long to run to the safe houses

[twin gorge]

Yeah of course,
Booster can run directives that give extra XP

[grim herald]

I was just in a countdown with my soft character and it froze and crashed after picking up the loot before extraction. There was a hc there and it got me thinking. What happens to hc character if the game have some of its not unfrequent crashes?

[twin gorge]

Depends where and when it happens
I crashed once at the final loot crate and my char was fine because I was still in the lab and no npcs nearby
In combat you can kiss your character goodbye

[sudden rune]

#lfg-hardcore-mode

[round mauve]

@high cobalt They were telling you where to LFG, sorry you have to stick to the right place.

[high cobalt]

Ok

[sly bear]

Yes we help boost people in HC a solo run will take about 6 to 8 hours depending on how good of a player you are and how well you know the game. A boost with 4 watches can get someone back in about 2 hours. Boosters will run on their own map with directives and call boostees in to grab the completion like nature says it gives them more xp. Plus fast traveling to all the safe houses is faster and safer.

[short latch]

@sly bearwhat do directives do? more or less just xp? my first hc char i got to end game and halfway through bfb. this second char im working on is such a slog lol

[sly bear]

Xp each directive is 25% xp

So if you run 3 or 4 they give you and the boostee 75% or 100% more xp than what the mission bonus would get you

If ragers was working I would run all 5 and give them 125% more xp

[twin gorge]

What normally happens with 4 or 5 directives is you end up just doing missions to get to 30 and over
Which is useful since side missions XP scale with your level and missions don't so keeping side missions is very important

[sly bear]

Yes hold your side missions until after invadeds and tidal is done use side missions to get to 38 1/4. or do theater and campus projects and turn them in at 38 and a 1/4 and it will get you to watch

[twin gorge]

Yeah and you can always do a landmark or two in the DZ if needed
There's some landmarks next to checkpoints so it's mostly safe

[sly bear]

So I boosted an old buddy who left the game like 4 years ago and his watch was 1800. He got back to watch today and he is at 1. Anyone have this happen to them. Do you think Devs would fix this?

[unborn fiber]

Sorry just got home from work. Thanks for the offer but I'm probably going to grind back to 40 this weekend

[viral urchin]

Does hitting 40 on a new HC character max the 5xp event out still ? Had that happen to me during the second 5x event.

[sly bear]

Thankfully they fixed it so you should be fine

Boosted a few folks and they all have 5xp

[worldly loom]

@kindred axle the place to ask is #lfg-hardcore-mode - best of luck!

[split vine]

Do hc toon mix with normal toons in the dz?

[worldly loom]

Nope

[split vine]

So only threat is another hc player and the npc

That seems quite low risk

[twin gorge]

It is until you see another HC player there and have no idea of their intentions

[split vine]

Im assuming the dedicated dz players wouldnt bother with hardcore so much of the other player issue is gone but i wouldnt trust another player to be an ally still.

[twin gorge]

Some players go in groups and of course feel more courageous
I dunno there's little point to the dz for HC players, just know the risks

Also in the dz you got a 30 second logout timer

[sudden rune]

I'm SHD 6000+ and never stepped foot in the DZ on HC.

[twin gorge]

Not 2 seconds like everywhere else

[twin gorge]

Yeah, I've gone only to get more XP to level up
I just went to the landmark closest to a checkpoint and farmed it

Also killing HC players is very frowned upon by most people and communities

[sudden rune]

Instant ban and blacklist for killing HC's in the clan I'm in.

[twin gorge]

As it should be

[sly bear]

I’m 24k and I play in the DZ all the time. My exotic components for optimizing things and is at 981 lol. We roam the DZ back when DZ exclusive were DZ exclusive and we could share our mailbox with core. That is no longer a thing but we still go in to change it up. Plus xp isn’t bad in there yeah we know of the few Hunter HC agents in there but they know who we are and know that if they start with us we will come down on them with all the force of 7 HC clans

[worldly loom]

And crashes/deltas - like nature boy said the 30s log out timer in the dz makes it way more risky if the game breaks.

[swift ivy]

Note that landmarks closest to a checkpoint tend to be favored by some aiming at killing Hardcore players. It makes their life easier in monitoring the landmark status and not running across half of the DZ. So not actually safe.

[twin gorge]

Hmm interesting, but what's the better alternative? You do a landmark and it goes red so it snitches on you at least there you have the turrets to make them think twice
You could run a pulse resistance build but if they see you it's not helpful

[split vine]

Im only in the dz for credits to buy the odd thing. Theres a preferred route for the free boxes that nets a few. If i get 15 in a round im happy.

[viral urchin]

@twin gorge If I’m trying to get a new characters level up fast (under level 30) I’ll go to dz east golf checkpoint and farm npc’s . Pretty consistent patrols to the left and straight ahead of the doors when you walk out, I’ll drag the npc’s to the checkpoint and let the turrets do the work for me and collect the XP.

[swift ivy]

The interior landmarks are just harder to target. Once the soon-to-be-rogue group (typically) arrives there you might have finished clearing it and moved on, or someone in your group might have periodically checked the proximity social and noticed their presence.

[split vine]

Im bit surprised to hear dz in hardcore is that active unless theres a very unfair power imbalance going on

[swift ivy]

It’s not, you can probably run months without encountering a rogue. The strategy I discuss aims at eliminating a small, but still existing risk.

[split vine]

Ok, yeah very good idea

[twin gorge]

Yeah the nearby functionality is super important

[viral urchin]

Went about 6-7 months before I saw another player . It was funny. We both saw each other and took off running an opposite directions.

[twin gorge]

There's also a landmark in dz south I think that's right next to a checkpoint

[swift ivy]

That’s standard reaction, it’s just safer that way for both of you.

[viral urchin]

100% truth

[sly bear]

I know two HC Clans that were made by folks meeting each other in the DZ

Yeah the DZ is dead usually though

[sharp bone]

is there a cap leveling HC agent up? I'm not feeling I'm leveling up with 5XP.. I am level 8 now but it's crawling.. is 5XP not applied to leveling?

[worldly loom]

No, it only applies to shd levels

[sharp bone]

ah.. thx

[short latch]

man i keep trying to rush back to endgame and making stupid mistakes lmao

[sudden rune]

Slow and steady wins the race

[twin gorge]

That's part of the process, learning and getting those mistakes out of your system

[short latch]

i know almost all of the dc missions like the back of my hand now tho lmfao

[sudden rune]

Sometimes that makes you complacent, though.

[split vine]

Defo no space for leeroy jenkins moments

[sharp bone]

any tips on speeding up the leveling process.. I'm 20 now (actual level 20 not SHD), it's going basically slow as normally was.. any strats to make leveling on HC faster? I know about descent at 30 but I'm talking to get to 30?

[worldly loom]

Side missions and projects scale to your level but main missions don't so do the main missions as early as possible (it's risky to go into missions more than about 2 levels higher than your current level though). You can save up completed settlement projects and only turn them in once you actually need the xp.

[sharp bone]

sadly I've already completed a bunch of projects.. but a lesson learned.. I was going basically safer route I guess, I was doing a few things around the world before progressing into main missions so I'm comfortable with armor and survivability.. I'm also farming goblin for some resources and money as it is now doable so that came in handy.

I'm just trying to figure out the best leveling strat for when I inevitably die

[twin gorge]

Solo the best strat is DZ lol but it's super dangerous with the scaling

Of course you have to unlock dz first and do some missions

[sharp bone]

yeah I've unlocked DZs south/east

[twin gorge]

I think under 30 there's only one DZ so you're augmented to 30 and get some more XP but you have little control over your build so you have to be careful
I doubt there's players there

[sharp bone]

you really start appreciating the talents you never thought to really use much in softcore.. Unbreakable is soooo good, especially in this early stage, same with Emeline's Guard P90 with Perfect preservation.

[split vine]

Im using palisade steelwork for first time. Just one pc for the armour on kill

[sly bear]

Yup until all my specializations are done and I end up running gunner

Remember though unbreakable doesn’t work if you have any bonus armor or if you have an armor regen build and your armor starts to regen unbreakable won’t pop

[short latch]

whats with mobs being stuck in trucks now and their movement being weird af

this discord actually sucks lmfao

you cant say f u cking

[split vine]

I didnt know that, thank you. Saved me learning the hardcore way

[sly bear]

Yeah I think what happens is unbreakable pops too slow especially with those when Golan and Gila and the emperors guards were all we had for regen so max is like 3% which is a lot but not quite the same as now some reason a sliver of armor makes unbreakable useless, it works well with armor on kill builds just not great with regen builds

[sharp bone]

@worldly loom curious about your advice on what the next step should be for my HC journey. I finally reached 30, unlocked a bunch of stuff, blueprints, account shared mats, etc etc.. interestingly enough I can craft some green sets but not offensive ones like striker, HF, OD, HB.. I can see hard wired, tip of the spear, measure assembly, negotiators, aces&eighs but not the other ones.. it's interesting. Just grind to 40 doing open world stuff, finish Capitol and Camp Oak and Pentagon and then once I've done everything, try to get to 40 and set up for NY and Brooklyn?

[worldly loom]

I'd recommend finishing the story (capitol, then the invasion) which will get you most of the way to 40 and also unlock stuff like alert levels for control points. Then run the off-site missions like zoo etc since they're locked to Story difficulty the first time so doesn't really matter if you're under geared

[sharp bone]

so continue as normal , capitol, then unlock Tidal, how about classified missions, they give a lot of XP no?

[worldly loom]

Do the first classified mission to unlock the rest, then go find them so you can use them for fast travel points. Whether you do them or not is entirely up to you though

[sharp bone]

yeah I see them all now on the map.. I don't really have to do them to fast travel? just find them? I did them all on my SC agent so I'm not sure

[worldly loom]

It's worth doing NY for the skills but if you don't complete liberty island then you'll never have random rogues spawn in missions/open world, which can save a few anxiety spikes (up to you though, some people enjoy the extra challenge)

You only need to find the entrances to the classified missions in order to use them for travel

[sharp bone]

interesting..didn't even think about the rogue stuff..

so they activate only on Keener end mission? if completed?

[worldly loom]

Correct

[sharp bone]

good to know

so when do I get to change world difficulty and see target loot on the map? at 40?

[worldly loom]

After tidal or after 40, I can't remember (do let me know)

[sharp bone]

will do.. thanks for the tips

[twin gorge]

It's 40 now
Used to be tidal

[sharp bone]

@worldly loom officially SHD 2.. yeah as noted, map showing loot alloc. and difficulty at 40, nothing after tidal.

[split vine]

Is everyone enjoying the reanimated? Seems a great boost to xp. Also had a poltergeist like effect bounce a shopping trolley which was interesting.

[sly bear]

Just be careful some enemies that you think you killed may reanimate behind you and bam auto flanked shooting you from behind

[tight citrus]

First char just died got to 39. Will teach me not to be so cocky next time

[sly bear]

39 is the most dangerous time

Make sure you have level 39 gear

[split vine]

9 levels down?!

[sly bear]

Sorry finger slip

Fat fingers

[split vine]

Thats ok just wonder if there was some magic glitch

[valid nimbus]

Ok so I’m bout to do my 1st ever HC character what shall I do lol

[split vine]

Play but not reckless

Pulse is first skill, revive hive is sound second.

[valid nimbus]

My palms feel sweaty already

[twin gorge]

Be mentally prepared to lose a HC character, everyone plays stupid at first

[valid nimbus]

Officially lvl 2 I’m goated haha

[sly bear]

His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy. There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti

You don’t realize how much you die on core until you play HC 🤣

[viral urchin]

So true

[valid nimbus]

Lmao

So what can I transfer & not transfer between characters?

Between core & hc

[swift ivy]

Right now nothing. What you can do is to e.g. run Countdown regular, and then get the caches on Hardcore. Same with events. Requires you getting to level 40, though.

[valid nimbus]

Gotcha thanks

[swift ivy]

In the old days the mailbox was shared, and people “saved” stuff there (also because there was no stash on Hardcore). Then when sell from stash was introduced, the developer forgot Hardcore, and for a few days you could sell stuff from the (regular) stash to the vendor from and buy it back. Somewhat after that they finally split the mailbox and also got the hardcore stash introduced.

[viral urchin]

If you have the Lexington and turmoil knee pads you can share between HC and SC through stash, wouldn’t recommend it though.

[swift ivy]

Yes, it needs to be pointed out that they are really one-time. A few months ago on Reddit some people deleted the Lexington (like as if you lost the character) and there is no way to recover it.

[untold radish]

That's incorrect. Stash isn't shared between hardcore and softcore.

[viral urchin]

In every other instance, that is correct except for those two items, they also do not count as an item in your stash. I can clip the video if you want.

[viral urchin]

Double checked , still can share the Lexington. Couldn’t do turmoil lost those a couple months ago.Had 2 at one point lol so this is going back to SC character.

[swift ivy]

At one point (back then without stash), after people repeatedly lost characters in my clan after getting EB and Ravenous on Hardcore, they consider those guns essentially “cursed” and refuse to get them. 🤪

[viral urchin]

I’m starting to look at the regulus like that.

[sly bear]

Love the superstition 🤣

Blue prints and materials can be shared that’s mainly it and yeah the Lexington but I’m not sharing that to my HC

[split vine]

I noticed the manhunt progression is shared.

[sly bear]

Yeah that’s shared across all characters

Happened when coms weee shared

Coms, collectibles and echoes are shared

[viral urchin]

Accidentally claimed it initially on my hard-core wasn’t paying attention when I logged in that day. Sure was paying attention when my character died with it lol.

[sharp bone]

Bloodsucker with Palisade with CHC/CHD for the bag or Matador with perfect adrenaline rush until I get Memento?

[untold radish]

Sorry I was wrong. Seems like a weird loophole in the system.

[viral urchin]

There were a couple other pieces of gear that showed in both stashes, can’t remember if it was from clan caches or 🤷‍♂️. Since got patched.Seems like every patch we get a new feature.

[sly bear]

Probably those HCs over there are bad ass

I think they did a 8 person HC DH less than 16mins

[short latch]

Ran a countdown for elmos got super lucky and it dropped the first one, team turned to shambles at the last 4 hunters I ran so far away and just quit lmfao

[sly bear]

I mean that’s what you have to do honestly. What’s the point in trying to fight it out if you aren’t their friends or in a party with them

I think I have 3 man extracted before, all the cores died like almost instantly and the HCs fought our way out

[short latch]

i really wanted my points too but it just wasnt worth lmao half the team was already dead

[twin gorge]

Was this heroic or challenging?

But yeah you did the right thing

[short latch]

it was challenging, i prob wont do heroic countdown on hc unless im with a group of hc

[short latch]

have like 6 side missions i need to find lol

[short latch]

Bout time to start a backup character finally

[swift ivy]

Very often, unfortunately, this is due to people insisting of having hackable skills (particularly drones). I would recommend even skill-check people before the initial (which can be dangerous by itself) and final encounter.

[swift ivy]

Has its pro and con. The one character spot can be painful if you have big plans for the non-Hardcore.

[short latch]

I've already done all i can in sc so a third character to mess around with is my best bet. I've only been playing hc last month or so

[sudden rune]

I have 1 SC, 3 HC’s lol

[short latch]

@sudden rune ill probably work on a 3rd hc after this second one lol

my ocd has been triggered, my side missions are 39/40 because of g phillips protocol i think

[short latch]

elmos is a literal cheat code in this game. i dont see a better ar shit just absolutely lasers enemies its insane. my sc char i was stuck on chameleon so never used elmos but holy shit lol

[swift ivy]

You can just farm it in Countdown, right, particularly for non-Hardcore

[short latch]

i already got it, but nah i dont do that goofy sc countdown to hc caches. if i cant play the mode with the character i dont deserve the shit lmao

but yes countdown is best farm for any exo you have in your pool that you want

[swift ivy]

I meant there is no reason to be “stuck on Chameleon”.

[short latch]

i mean its better than elmos

@swift ivy do youn have areason to mention me

you just asked me how to farm ars

chameleon beats elmos in every situation unlees you cant buildthe stascks

[swift ivy]

???

[swift ivy]

I did not ask you anything.

[narrow elk]

Rolled a new character and ran into the level 35 milestone cache bug, cool game

[short latch]

dont pick a specialization until 35

thats how i managed

[narrow elk]

If I have to roll another HC character I'll keep that in mind, it's too late for this one

[short latch]

Yeah not being able to use the 35 milestone cache is rough especially for hc it feels

[split vine]

Given its a skill build its not that bad. Personally i use one slot for reviver so that hamstrings a skill build

[short latch]

the gun aboslutely slaps tho at least imo

shit carried me hard until i got elmos

[split vine]

I do like rifles

[short latch]

ive been loving the sig lately

[sly bear]

Unlucky day for me death #89 taken out while I ran in to pick up a friend but she was on fire so she instantly died, reviver hive did nothing for her. Oxys, DC 62 grenades, shrapnel trap, and boss drone took me out.

Went into DH raid on my raid HC death#90 raid DC’d half of us lost my character

[twin gorge]

Oof that's pretty demoralizing 😩

[vast rune]

And I saw how high lvl u were , that rough

[split vine]

The level is retained right? So its just a matter of generating a toon to shd. The lose of whatever is equip is bitter.

[swift ivy]

Yes, nowadays with the stash and not necessarily the need to refarm everything — assume you took time and save a bit of pieces — it is less painful. Some people also grinded Descent and can craft a decent amount of named pieces. In the old days you only have what random stuff you extracted from the DZ, and virtually no named blueprints.

[split vine]

I used to play on ps4 and enjoyed the shared stash.

[split vine]

This event has been fun to play. Pretty bugged though. Defo getting too many headshots (xp) that i really dont think i made

[narrow elk]

How do I get the Descent icon near the White House to show up? Would be dead handy for fast travel

[swift ivy]

Approach it, I think just going to that part of the White House will trigger it. May need to reach a sufficient level, though (nowadays 20?)

[short latch]

seeing the loot goblin before max level is annoying

[twin gorge]

It's been bugged ever for a while for new characters
You can't get that shortcut unfortunately

[kindred axle]

U can go to the castle settlement but idk at what lvl it unlocks tho

[sly bear]

It unlocks after you get to watch. The castle settlement doesn’t get developed until after you get your watch

The castle itself opens up sooner on story mode but it isn’t actual settlement until after you get watch

So you can run to it manually or try to do it from your map outskirts missions

[twin gorge]

It's not the castle that's bugged it's the descent entrance next to the white house

[narrow elk]

Yep, it's a pretty decent farming spot since there's I think 5 crates or so around the point

[sly bear]

Levels are so terrible when your low or below watch

[swift ivy]

I think levels are easier nowadays if you can utilize the 3x and 5x XP events.
It seems there was also a miscommunication of using that Descent entrance for entering Descent vs. opening the crates nearby. Not sure why it is a big issue, you can just exit the White House and that area is even safe, unlike say some classified assignment fast travel points (which you would have to fight through, if you do not have that pass).

[narrow elk]

No one was making a big issue out of it, I was just whining about not having a shortcut I'm used to, we can all move on now

[sly bear]

Oh yeah I guess but there’s usually a box or two outside each safe house. There’s like four in the west Potomac safe house plus resources and food

I guess you want a safe place to fast travel to get gear. I would just do control points but also you level up so fast it’s hard to keep up to date with gear but I try.

If I am solo running my character up

[narrow elk]

Blessed are the Exodus Gloves for saving my 🍑 when a Countdown run falls apart

[sly bear]

Those things are really good on HC

[split vine]

Lost my guy seemingly to npc either stuck in terrain or shooting through terrain.

[weak lotus]

3 deltas in 2 days means I’m taking a break from HC for the time being…!

[narrow elk]

The hunter in Schaeffer's manhunt finale had me shitting bricks even on normal, nearly lost that fight several times

[sly bear]

You are a better player than me 🤣

I grab the shrapnel trap and say peace bye bye

[swift ivy]

You can turn back and wait out the hunter, e.g. in the area with all the loot. The hunter will despawn after a while.

[twin gorge]

For new HC characters they've changed the first skill you can select
It's now a drone instead of pulse

[sly bear]

And it’s glorious

[narrow elk]

Hmm rubber banding hard and now it's taking forever to FT to a safe spot

Delta-03

I survived

[azure pulsar]

Nice

[sharp bone]

did this happen very recently? I leveled up 2 characters to 40 it was always pulse but it was over the past month/few weeks.

[twin gorge]

Last patch I believe

[dense iron]

what is the “hardcore” mode for your Divsion agent? Any extra challenges? I’ve never tried it.

[sudden rune]

If you die your character is deleted and you lose all items in your inventory.

[night falcon]

So I made it past capital building now idk how to level up without doing invasions I want to get a decent build going before I attempt invasion what's a good smart way to level up in hardcore after capital building

I'm only level 34

I'm thinking descent but not sure how much xp that gives you

[sudden rune]

Invasion is nothing different from what you've been doing. Just wear gear at your level and it'll be fine. I wouldn't worry about builds until level 40.

[twin gorge]

Dz landmarks are the best way solo but it's up to you to decide the risk

[night falcon]

Yea that's just stupid unless u have a good build to handle those kids in there that want to steal your toys lols

O and I died during a control point well time to run it back

[viral urchin]

You would be surprised how empty the under 40 HC dz is. Only ran into 1 other player in past year.

[sly bear]

Um the DZ is empty like crazy. I go in all the time if I see something targeted loot in there. Most of us have a shared respect for one another. There are a few they may not but they are far and few in between. If you need help hit me up we have a crew of over 180 folks on HC on Xbox

[split vine]

Wish it was like that on pc

Ps4 had a few agents when i used run previously but not more than a dozen

[swift ivy]

There is at least a dozen on PS even now. The change that broke Hardcore was expertise, and many do not have the space and needed “mules.” Prior to expertise there was a fairly large PS community, including DZ griefers. Though many are just not talking to each other.

[kindred axle]

I have a question from a more experienced hc agent. I been playing decent a lot lately on hc but it turned into just a run for the weekly project to I ended up farming a lot of reconstructed caches at least for the last blueprints I was missing from running it on my normal account but if my hc dies will I lose my blueprints I claimed on it (I checked my normal character also has all bps and my materials and blueprints are shared) thanks!!

[twin gorge]

You keep the blueprints, don't worry
It's an account wide thing

[split vine]

I lost blueprints several weeks back on death of my toon. Rigger was crafted and equiped. My normal toon doesnt have blueprints for rigger now. I reported it but no news yet

[viral urchin]

Thanks for the boost today ,much appreciated. Back to 32 at the moment.

[weak lotus]

Hardcore DZ not as safe as everyone thinks. I was clearing landmarks last night and someone popped up and went rogue, I escaped. They did the same when I tried to extract items. I managed to escape again - just!

[viral urchin]

Was this post lvl 40?

[weak lotus]

Yep

[viral urchin]

Yeah I never go in once I get my watch. Only when I’m leveling a new HC if I’m solo. Once I hit lvl 30 I stay out .

[round mauve]

@quartz wigeon I'm sure you can find someone down in #lfg-hardcore-mode

[narrow elk]

I tried the DZ at level 25, none of the mobs had an indicator for what level they are, is that normal?

I died attempting an easy landmark too, got hosed by a named Outcast chunga before my hive could pick me up

Getting hosed like that by a gunner is how I've died like 4 times in a row now, I am getting worse at the game somehow 🤔

[twin gorge]

If you're in the DZ you're augmented to level 30 in this case
If you're over 30 you're in the 30-40 dz bracket

[round mauve]

@quartz wigeon #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent
you can also check out #td2-clan-recruitment if you just want to find a clan.

This channel is not for finding players. Asking again will result in an official warning.

[clever scaffold]

Wy is it so difficult to find people on HC ? I tried matchmaking from normal diff to Heroic , no respons . Nobody wants to team up i guess .

[round mauve]

@clever scaffold Harcore is a niche mode of the game, just keep trying in #lfg-hardcore-mode, and eventually you'll find someone.

[weak lotus]

What platform are you on?

[clever scaffold]

PC .

[twin gorge]

Easy you don't know what you're getting spawned into when it comes to backup calls even matchmaking

[weak lotus]

There’s another discord called DDMF hardcore fun. I think they are mostly HC PC players, might be worth a try?

[clever scaffold]

Will check it out . Thx for the info .

[errant locust]

Yeah back then I made it a habit to answer every HC backup call no matter what, since someone could be dying.
But when I started over on PC, it was mostly folks standing in the WH being bored. So not willed to interrupt whatever I'm doing risking to end up in such again.
Also as natureboy said, risky these days as well since everyone including newbies run H+5 plus rainbow build, you barely have a chance to quickly get a handle on things when you spawn in such.
Come on over to DDMF, lots of HC folks there to team up with.

[twin gorge]

Yeah there's also the case where sometimes you're getting backup calls from normal agents for some reason
I normally inspect when I get a backup call, if it's someone doing the campaign I'll help out. Otherwise it can be a bit risky

[viral urchin]

I’ve been getting quite a few normal agents calls lately myself.

[split vine]

Do you have a link?

[errant locust]

Sent you an invite 😉

[sudden rune]

#lfg-hardcore-mode

[real juniper]

Started hardcore 2 days ago, feels great to begin again

[clever scaffold]

So if there's a x3 or x5 xp event, does this only apply to max level characters? Or does this also work if you create a new (HC)character?

[round mauve]

@clever scaffold General XP events only work for your SHD Watch, so post-lvl 40.

[errant locust]

Yep, events unlock at lvl40, though you can do priority objectives starting at lvl30.

[foggy hare]

I got the Regulus from the swarm cache ^^ best event for HC characters

[narrow elk]

What does everyone do to quickly grind SHD levels?

[crystal oxide]

i run the weekly and daily projects then after that i run quick activities like terri controls and public executions

[narrow elk]

Nearly browned my shorts when I fast travelled to a friendly control point and suddenly a True Sons rusher appears in front of me and nearly kills me

[viral urchin]

Those rushers give me nightmares.

[timber oar]

Yeah them rushers give me too REALLY scary nightmares! 😱 😂

[gleaming kayak]

A rant....argggh.Started another HC on Xbox with the downtime of stretch goals and also saw it as an opportunity with those SGs to get some exo's etc. It worked, I now have a Lex having only just reached lvl 40, stoked for that. Sad thing is the state of the story now. At lvl 37 I was meeting Wally, who, had I not known the story now lived at the magically refurbished Castle settlement that had only a short time been obliterated. I am struggling to progress the invasion too, cleared the capitol and then BT take over and yet every mission I am expected to do so as to progress is full of the normal achetypes and never counts toward the invasion. suffice to say, I can't clear that, manny has told me Kelso had to go and
i suppose i may as well go to NY and get WoNY done. My goal is to get the Raid commendation, I solo'd Tidal and got that but sadly my dude died.

[worldly loom]

for the story invasion you only have to do the three invaded strongholds and tidal now, not the invaded missions that you used to have to do back when world tiers existed

[covert patio]

you dont get invaded archetypes, you just do DUA, then Roosevelt, then Capitol, then Tidal

[round mauve]

@past prawn You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[narrow elk]

40 hours gone because I got that bug where your character freezes while the world goes on as normal, and the world in this case was 2 BT chungas who took their sweet time deciding to delete me

[worldly loom]

In a case like that you just alt-f4 and hope your character survives the 2s before they get logged out

[twin gorge]

If it's the "your game completely freezes" bug, the game still runs on the server and alt-f4 doesn't kick your character out of whatever you are immediately
If it's in combat you can kiss your character goodbye
I lost a HC char not long ago because of it
It's a very rare occurrence but in HC it's lethal

[gleaming kayak]

Navy Hill CP, up on the balcony clearing it out convincingly for a Retaliation and a Rusher goes boom underneath.Yep I died, because only in HC does that happen

[viral urchin]

No truer words have ever been spoken. RIP

[glossy fulcrum]

Do you have a invite to the server you could send me please

[rich hornet]

I lost a char to this infamous freezing or in my case super lagg. I tried a hard computer kill just for the char, nope.

[twin gorge]

Yeah it always happens in combat for me and in HC that probably means losing your char 😭
Even if you alt-f4 quickly

[rich hornet]

with this infamous "Freezing" its like a super lagg, 3 fps and even the sound follows the lag, I was firing a 32 round meg when it hit and my rifle sounded like it was no clipping unlimited ammo. During this time alt-f4 did nothing, and alt tab out did nothing. i tried ctrl alt delete and still no response, so I hard powered down. but I logged in to a dead agent 😭

[round mauve]

@shadow leaf You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[shadow leaf]

Thanks. I missed that chat room somehow.

[narrow elk]

Next run I'm just not gonna bother with the reviver, got double tapped again before it could do its thing and apart from the NPC leader letting me die at a control point, it's the only thing that's killed me

[sudden rune]

I’ll always run the revive hive. Even if it only works 1 in 5 times that’s one less agent and one less set of gear I have to replace. It failed me yesterday but during 3x XP it saved me 3/3 times, which makes it worth it for me.

[velvet solar]

Yeah it's worth the hassle, but should not be relied on at all.

[round mauve]

@past prawn You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[viral urchin]

PS servers are absolutely a nightmare right now especially US East I would not risk your character.

[split vine]

Isnt the proverbial college open atm

[viral urchin]

Yep

First time I got put in a queue for a long time

[glossy fulcrum]

On PC the server are a bit funny as well, especially invisible walls

DDMF

[viral urchin]

Exactly, we were doing Potomac just open the gates and I was stuck in the gate. All I could see was yellow.

[echo sierra]

Does anyone know if you are still able to join a normal raid on your hardcore character? I tried it with a few friends last night and it said hardcore mismatch, but I dont see a whole lot of info on it that is recent per google/youtube.

[split vine]

Its a world apart now. Not how it used to be. Stash space is the same.

[edgy rock]

what is hardcore mode in d2?

just came back to the game since few years back

ahh nvm i see

its where you make new character and have 1 life right?
never done this

[worldly loom]

Hardcore is an option you can select when creating a new character. Hardcore characters become permanently unplayable if they die (but not if merely 'downed' to the kneeling state). They have their own separate stash and shd level shared with other hardcore characters on your account, and cannot matchmake with non-hardcore players except in Countdown.

[edgy rock]

Ahh i see thanks 🙂

[worldly loom]

It's not an uncommon question 🙂

[edgy rock]

ahh okay thanks thats good 🙂

[echo sierra]

That stinks.Thanks for the info.

[twin gorge]

HC and non HC can still raid together but it's technically a glitch so it can't be discussed

[agile monolith]

anyone know a good build for HC im at 15 and i got the free purple fenris set

[twin gorge]

Build for what specifically
Farming XP isn't the same as running a mission

[sudden rune]

If they’re ’at 15’ I’m presuming they’re going through the story.

[sudden rune]

Don’t worry about builds until endgame. Just wear the highest level gear you can.

[twin gorge]

True but I was assuming he was talking about endgame builds

Campaign he can use the l30 library cheese if he has the library

[desert ocean]

Is it worth it to have two HC characters?

[twin gorge]

Depends on how serious you are with HC
With the end of mat mules there's little need for 3 normal characters

[desert ocean]

I want to be serious about it. Normal play hs been boring lately, want to play something "harder"

Is the stash share between HC?

[viral urchin]

Stash is shared

[silver flume]

hallo, ich suche leute um gemeinsam HC zu spielen (PC)

[primal sage]

Versuch es mal in #lfg-hardcore-mode Dieser Channel ist mehr zum quatschen über Hardcore Mode, Leute zum Spielen können hoffentlich im anderen Channel gefunden werden.

[summer viper]

Just completed Warlords,,,Keener was a nightmare.

[viral urchin]

Scorpio is what I normally take him down with

[subtle vortex]

Hey everyone, i wanted to hear opinions on Hardcore. Think its a good idea to go with Skill with Regen? In theory anyways, it should make sense having a decent regen with a tier 3-6 skill for drone dps keeping you out of danger and the skill tier should make armor repair better. Currently i'm using 252hp Armor regen but ST is at 1

[twin gorge]

Campaign sure, skills scale better than weapon damage
But endgame? Depends on the difficulty

[weak lotus]

Me personally. I like to be in control of dealing the damage not rely on skills. It would only take a couple of rushers or your skills to be knocked out by an exploding warhound and you’re in danger

[viral urchin]

Dead NPC’s don’t shoot back

[twin gorge]

Endgame yeah I prefer weapons but campaign/leveling skills work a bit better imo

But if you know what you're doing weapon/armor can also work

[viral urchin]

I’ve been leaning a little bit more into group buffs when I’m helping a group. Realized I never shot a healing chem before real quickly.

[fading frost]

I assume when doing hardcore you need to revive hive on all times right

[kind venture]

depends on how confident you are in your abilities

[sudden rune]

I do personally, because even if it only works once in any given timeframe, it’s one less agent I have to rebuild.

[real juniper]

Got to lvl 30, and sent straight to the dirt

[round mauve]

@crystal oxide You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[keen girder]

@~@ Seems to be the norm-- reached level 30 on two seperate agents only to have them erased :'( One true death which was my fault and a Delta-03 disconnect death 😭

[stiff stump]

got to 40 grabbed a challenging bounty and got flamed and sniped before give went off. now it’s a reminder to play far back

[clever scaffold]

Hardcore is fun and challenging , only thing i am missing is the matchmaking .

[crystal oxide]

As in people to play with or like on menu matchmaking?

[round mauve]

If the former: #lfg-hardcore-mode enjoy!

[twin gorge]

matchmaking is there, it's just people don't want to spawn into something without knowing what it is first. And I'm specifically talking about directives and being spawned directly into combat

[round mauve]

@clever scaffold Well, you know where to go, in order to find them.
GL Agent

[clever scaffold]

A question. When you, as a HC agent see a backup call appear, is it only from someone who also plays HC?

Sometimes I'd like to respond to that, but I also see the increased risk of course.

[worldly loom]

Yes it's from another hc player

[twin gorge]

Not necessarily from another HC player, back up system sometimes gets confused and gives you a normal player
You have to inspect first

[viral urchin]

Get backup calls from the same person on my friends list every time . He’s on sc and I’m on HC . Only sc I get backup calls from.

[twin gorge]

Maybe it's been recently fixed but I've got backup calls, I inspect and it's someone with a character with 2k hours. Unlikely to be a HC character to say the least

[stiff peak]

may i ask how i can change world difficulty ingame?

[worldly loom]

Map menu, button at the bottom of the screen (probably only after you reach lvl 40)

[stiff peak]

aah okkay thx, im only lvl30 atm

[twin gorge]

you can only change difficulty at level 40

[dusty condor]

when you reach lvl 30, do you keep grinding in DC til you hit lvl 40 or do you go straight to WONY and go through the story and get the SHD watch?
I'm currently lvl 24 on my hc character

[worldly loom]

You can get the shd watch as soon as you reach level 40 in DC now, no need to do WONY for it.
I think most HC players will do the missions to unlock the skills but not necessarily complete the whole thing.

[dusty condor]

Cool. Makes it easier to farm up a good build.

[twin gorge]

People normally get ASAP to 40 to get endgame gear. WONY nowadays can wait

[dusty condor]

Thanx for the advice 🙂

[round mauve]

@spark vortex You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[spark vortex]

tyty

[viral urchin]

New shotgun is shareable through stash with SC/HC.

[dusty condor]

Is there any way to get the Quickstep on a hardcore character?

[viral urchin]

If you know another player who still has some of the Houndsman bounties, you have a chance to get it from the cache.

[round mauve]

@steep comet You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[narrow elk]

Maybe from loot goblins once the Christmas event drops

[dusty condor]

yeah I'll check that out for sure 👍

[remote cape]

Anyone down to run Roosevelt island masters

[worldly loom]

@remote cape you're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode

[remote cape]

Yes

[worldly loom]

Unless you're not actually talking about the permadeath agent mode, in which case you want #lfg-playstation

[remote cape]

Thank you for directing me to the right chat

[round mauve]

@lusty shale You're looking for #lfg-td2incursion-pc, GL Agent

[brazen geyser]

Lost my hardcore account upon logging in is this common? i was at the base ops when i loged off

[sweet seal]

it's gotten better through the years but sneeze the wrong way and ur HC character can be lost

[viral urchin]

Winter keys are account wide!

[split vine]

It defo has had some attention. I didnt think pc would be viable but i dare i say it. I would like to permadeath the main way to play div 3.

[stiff stump]

sadly perma will always be a side option to core but i as well hope they give it more love in Div 3

[split vine]

I would be interested how hc players there are. It defo enhances the game imho

[round mauve]

It should be noted, that Hardcore in div2 was notably a passion project for like 1 person, so it's best to think of it as an "always in beta" kinda thing.

[split vine]

1 person in the dev team? Wildlands has a similar mode.

[round mauve]

Well, 1 person's idea, we have no idea about details on who exactly worked on it, nor will we likely ever.
Just be happy it exists, it's a "for fun" thing.

[vast rune]

if you bleed out but someone throws a restorer hive, what happens? does it do nothing ot do you get revived?

[worldly loom]

If you're only on your knees you can be saved, once you finish bleeding out and die, it's game over.

[vast rune]

ok thanks

[strange gull]

Never actually looked into if health increases affect how much more time or damage you can take, if any. Would be a nice touch to an (in my opinion) otherwise mostly useless trait.

[split vine]

Nothing useless about it. It underlines that your mortal and need to take care. In pvp health damage is a tool. so it is now in pve. Its gone that way because division is supposed to be a pvpve experience as it was in the original. Thats why we see npc rogues and npc pushing the player. They didnt use to. At least not like they do now. The poison cloud is lethal if you stay in it. More health will not do much. If you notice its dispersal then go withdraw from the area. As you probably note it has timed effect that continues on and nothing repairs health except self healing.

[strange gull]

I forgot to specify if health increases affect when you go down, if you get more time or health while down.

[viral urchin]

Journey mission 8 all 5 directives on when claimed 15,750,000 XP

[split vine]

Some time but i doubt its enough to react within. Those ambushers happily melee you whilst deploying the gas cloud so your attention is stretched. Health is rarely affected but is increasingly a target of attack. Previously there was fire and now gas cloud. This thrown and also a mine i think. In bounty they are throwing something all over the place

[crimson quest]

Figured I’d share here as no one else would understand 🤣🤷‍♂️

Just solo Main Story, New York & Brooklyn in Hardcore 😅😁

[sweet seal]

noice, congrats mate \o/ now onto that hardcore raid arm patch!

[crimson quest]

Would team up for that? Pretty much end game for it now and between the dif versions it’s SHD 780 or so

[round mauve]

@steel cape You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, assuming you want it in the perma-death mode of div2.
GL Agent

[narrow yarrow]

Merry Christmas my fellow hardcore agents

[wet yoke]

But where is the mod for the same

[crimson quest]

Hate
You all

My solo slim tank ate dirt

3 days hardcore

[viral urchin]

286 winter keys = 1 regulus

[gilded trout]

Does you character get lost for dying in Descent?

[viral urchin]

No

[gilded trout]

And secondly, is it safe to assume all agents I see are HC as well? Thanks for the response!

[sweet seal]

when logged in, you can see both HC and non-HC agents around the open world (depicted by the HC symbol next to name above head).

[gilded trout]

Understood. Thank you!

[random fulcrum]

What build do you use for HardCore? I want both damage and survivability. ))

[weak lotus]

I run 4 piece of strikers with blue cores. Ceska chest with obliterate or unbreakable, grupo backpack with bloodsucker. St Elmo’s and rock n roll shotgun for the secondary. Oh, and the quickstep pistol just in case I need to get the hell outta there!

[split vine]

Heartbreaker can good too but obviously striker hits harder

[copper forge]

solid build, id lowkey use the striker chest just in case, and go all blues with bloodsucker. Then go catharsis or something

(I get people hate the striker chest but I love it) 💀

[split vine]

Hate is strong, the issue is the extra stacks vs the extra damage per stack given by the backpack. I second your call on bloodsucker it is powerful. Having higher armour that is exponentially growing turns the player into a monster the npc does not want to be close to. higher rpm is needed to overcome the downside of additional stacks. Gunner with unit alloys does build those extra stacks. Armour on kill is also nice. At times striker chest and bp with unit alloys and a paliside is great.

[velvet solar]

The return on striker chest without the backpack is going be pretty much zero for most engagements. I don't think there's another piece that really makes it worth taking generally

[split vine]

Depends on the rpm.

But if the backpack slot is not available then the chest it is

[round mauve]

@sweet grotto You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, GL Agent

[clever scaffold]

I hope if there is a HC mode in div3 they will give it a little more dedication and love .

[tall parcel]

Why people upset from Hotshot build in a group?

[round mauve]

In hardcore mode specifically?

[clever scaffold]

Question. I lost my HC agent who had the quickstep pistol. Is it now in the general loot pool? Or can you only get it through a special event?

[twin gorge]

It's not in the general pool
You can ask around if some HC agent has the bounty and ask them to start it for you
I'm not sure I have it tbh
Or just wait for another event

[velvet solar]

probably don't know their head from their you know what lol.

as long as you're keeping up on kills and not being detrimental somewhere, you're likely fine.