#td2-hardcore-mode-chat

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round mauve
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Capitol Building has possibly the most frequent lethal environmental hazards outside of Manhunt Tidal.

narrow field
proper summit
# narrow field Reviver hive op lol

it doesn't trigger fast enough, the animation start and you die, at least for enviromental damage like that.Good thing to know early.

There was a guy who died from the crates of supply event

tame saddle
narrow field
inland shoal
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raucey that defo sounds like something youd do xD

trim flume
proper summit
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Just reached New York, any tips?

safe gazelle
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Craft 31 and recal armor cores onto them. Won't need to replace them till like 37+.

proper summit
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recal armor cores?

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atm am 32 with 400k armor, bought unbreakable vest from npc

safe gazelle
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Yeah. Each armor core gives you another 170k. 5 of those and you can have over a million armor, which lets you play a lot more aggressive, even more so if you use crusader shield too.

quick raptor
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weapon attachments dont cost credits for crafting them at lvl 31

proper summit
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@safe gazelle yeah i've been doing that.
Also, who had the bright idea to cover NY with 1000000 explosives stuff

inland shoal
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wdym

twin gorge
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Environmental hazards (gas cannisters) I suppose

inland shoal
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Then the answer is obviously cleaners lmao

proper summit
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just killed the last boss, what now

inland shoal
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of what

proper summit
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Keener

inland shoal
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just do whatever youd do on a softcore character

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minus the dying part

worldly loom
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yup - assemble some builds, farm out spec points, gain shd levels, etc etc

proper summit
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any way to get smgs to shoot tighter? other than accessory ,are there some "leggendary" acc that improve stats further or should i get armor stats that improve acc and handling?

Also, should i pick up extras shield cache or not? i maxed all perks

tame saddle
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handling will, but its honestly not worth it. If your firing from far enough that the spread is the problem then your firing well outside the optimal range of the smg

proper summit
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yeah i'm moving closer but not too much, im scared about Rusher only atm, i have 1.3kk armor and good armor regen, keeping unbreakable armor from npcs vendor

worldly loom
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maybe try ARs instead if you prefer to keep your distance

inland shoal
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Or MMRs/rifles

proper summit
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i wasn't levelling up passives from the sniper tree, i got some handling out of it and smgs with accuracy talent after kill, atm is fine

ashen onyx
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I just started a new Hardcore player, I am wondering if I should take my distance with stuff.

proper summit
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yes 100%

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im looking to get " the appartment" smg from the DZ, should i got there in Normal since in Hard they have wayy to much hp?
ATM im still optimizing my build, so far i've managed to pump some more dps, 1.2kk armor with smal regen and 87k damage fat and 180k crit with 50% crit chance.
Level 18

inland shoal
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also its still pvp

twin gorge
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Are there HC chars in the DZ? I wouldn't dare enter the dz at any point TBH, descent has the apartment blueprint

inland shoal
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yes

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its still pvp

twin gorge
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Oof thought there would be some wholesomeness given it's HC, but expecting the player base to be wholesome yeah big mistake

inland shoal
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would cause problems

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youd kill SC DZ

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if nobody could kill each other why would anyone go to softcore DZ

twin gorge
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You wouldn't lose much in softcore, but yeah I get it don't bother with HC DZ lol, only exo comps would make it worthwhile tbh

inland shoal
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its decent for xp thats about it

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otherwise there is very literally zero reason

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and i mean it; there isnt a SINGLE ONE

proper summit
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it's still pvp but no one will go there for pvp, also the comunity in HC is so small that i doubt you'll find anyone, especially since EU and US server are separated

worldly loom
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HC dz is mostly pretty quiet but I know a couple of players who've been killed there recently by some barcode name type. A bigger risk is crashes: in the dz the timeout is 30s, rather than the 2s elsewhere, so a crash is much more likely to kill you. Running in groups will help.

proper summit
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The Barcode Villain strike

quick raptor
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i was personally one of the guys who was killed by the barcode guy

drowsy ember
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The Barcode killer lmao

proper summit
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quick question, sitting atm at 960k armor with unbreakable and ninja bike backpack with striker set,57 crit chance and 56 crit damage, should i push dps more for challenge difficulty or optimize

tame saddle
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You should abandon the ninjabike backpack for starters and focus on getting your chd up since that is incredibly low. I'm actually not sure if 56% is correct since you should have a base around 25% assuming no watch*

proper summit
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ok

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safe gazelle
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Not getting much value out of the backpack. Just 2 extra brand sets bonuses over memento.

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You only lose 15 chd and hsd vs memento + ceska.

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Or run striker bp and whatever else for much more damage.

old current
# safe gazelle Not getting much value out of the backpack. Just 2 extra brand sets bonuses over...

Me myself are getting a bunch of value out the BP.
Changing to Memento you get a different build, and change to Striker BP and you're getting a completely different build.
I have all 3 BP in different builds.
You mention 3 different BP, and none of them are a substitute for the others.
The underlying thinking that there's only one build, and everybody else is wrong, is just sad.
(Bet if they but out one build ("meta") for each core, red, blue and yellow, there would be complaints that there wasn't enough choices making builds)

proper summit
stable valley
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tardigrade still has 45s cooldown iirc

proper summit
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so it's 80% with 45 cd?
also, is it possible that unbreakable trigger, but the damage was so high it melt right trought it?
On rare occasions it felt like it didn't worked

inland shoal
proper summit
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okke thx

twin gorge
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Unbreakable isn't working as it was before they "fixed" it

tawny robin
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Whats the unbreakable issues were talking about?

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Been running it on everything on my hc so

safe gazelle
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There is a bug with armor regen as well. You lose all armor and regen on the same tick, the game says you still have 1 armor remaining and ub doesn't proc.

round mauve
winter radish
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Thanks 🙏🏼

twin gorge
tawny robin
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Ah yeah but I knew that bug, I refrain from using armor regen cause unbreakable has more value than armor regen imo

twin gorge
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Yeah armor Regen isn't worth rolling imo

The weird thing is unbreakable works as it should in summit, but in open world it doesn't. So weird

patent oak
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anyone help me to lvl up my SHD on hardcore character plzzz

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anyone help me

night panther
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I have been to scared to take mine out of the Whitehouse the last few months due top the amount of issues had far to many die due to server screw ups/ glitches top waste another one

inland shoal
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I haven't had any of those so

valid dock
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Hi

inland shoal
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hello

vale walrus
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guys i got a question....

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can you send items to your hc character with stash...?

worldly loom
# vale walrus guys i got a question....

not the regular stash, you can't access it in HC, but you can send some stuff through the mailbox (eg by extracting it from the DZ, or by not claiming league/GE rewards from the rewards track)

twin gorge
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You can access the stash in a way, if you want to donate items for projects. Outside of that yeah only DZ/rewards

vale walrus
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k thanks

vale walrus
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guys i got one more question...

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if your character die in descent - you totally die?

inland shoal
vale walrus
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ah good

green zephyr
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I recently started noticing some weapon and gear on my hc character that I cannot seem to get ahold of for my other two characters. Once I hit lvl 40, will this gear be available to my main chars? And trust me I run the events and get the Name Items each time but still no luck. Hoping the blueprints will be available or the items themselves

jade sphinx
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Some named weapons and named armor are DZ esclusive, but can be acquired from named item caches.

green zephyr
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these were not from the DZ/ open world

jade sphinx
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What weapons have you not found on your normal characters?

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Well, gear and weapons.

green zephyr
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For example, Savage Wolverine, The Send Off, Sleipnir, The Stinger, and gear I noticed Holster Ammo Dump

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I just want them to get proficient lvl up 🙂

jade sphinx
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All of those are weapons you need to make yourself, by crafting them.

green zephyr
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odd thing is I've never seen them on my characters. lvl 3100 shd

jade sphinx
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Because you need to craft them. They cant drop naturally, they are exclusively crafted.

green zephyr
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do I need to do anything to get the blueprints?

jade sphinx
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You'll need to work on the Field Research from the specializations.

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Firewall for Savage Wolverine, The Send Off from Technician, Sleipnir and Ammo Dump from Gunner, and The Stinger is from the friend referral system, i think. Cant remember if there is another way of getting that one.

green zephyr
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ignore me and please accept my apology. I just logged into my other chars and I see them and can be crafted.

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Oi

jade sphinx
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No worries. Game is confusing.

green zephyr
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this hc char playing has me unable to sleep at night 🤣

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I'm only at lvl30 and been almost downed twice in the last several days. Talk abt mild moments of panic

twin gorge
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You can go down (if either in group or having a revive hive equipped) just not unconscious

quick raptor
twin gorge
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Technically yes but the officer isn't reliable so definitely not recommended

quick raptor
hoary locust
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Is Hardcore balanced differently than the regular game? Both in difficulty and loot drops?

trim flume
quick raptor
trim flume
queen kestrel
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i imagine you hardcore players log on server lagging nope no div 2 today 😛

inland shoal
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what

hoary locust
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You hardcore people... do you do CPs right off or do you wait a few levels to get some gear and stuff?

worldly loom
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tend to leave them until I'm lagging behind on xp for whatever mission is next, then maybe do some

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there's no real reason you have to have them done during the story campaign

hoary locust
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nods

twin gorge
hoary locust
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Cool. Right now I've just got the tutorials related missions done and had the official intro to SHD caches and that sort of thing. Mostly I figure focus on unlocking the various facilities and what not first. So then I can fully mod things as needed to support whatever build this ends up being;.

worldly loom
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if you have max armor rolls in your lvl 30 recalibration library, that helps a lot - you can add them to purple/gold gear as soon as you unlock the bench (approx level 22 or so), acts as a massive survivability boost

hoary locust
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I've been getting a lot of maxed green gear so I've been hanging on to that until I can library it.

worldly loom
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you'll unlock a lot of item donation projects later in the campaign so it's worth hanging onto some low level gear too just to donate, if you have the inventory space

hoary locust
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Thanks for the advice all. Made it through the Viewpoint mission which I did not think I would since that end fight is such a mess. But not too terrible this time.

rose palm
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why did my sentence get removed? it's hardcore related...

round mauve
rose palm
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haha alright..

patent oak
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no one active in LFG hardcore ?

round mauve
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This chat itself is only for discussing the mode, but Hardcore is a niche thing even when it's the busy time of the day.

jaunty spear
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Hello everyone. I didn't read in the new PTS about hardcore mode. But me and many people. We would like them to absolutely fix the delta issues, which cause character loss. And it's Frustrating to repeat everything from scratch.

ivory portal
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i lost like 6 HC Agent im reitred from there

languid dune
ivory portal
little flower
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it's a nice challenge, but it's dead as far as random multiplayer goes. kinda sad

sly bear
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I think Hardcore random has always been dead. First off the community itself is very small, Atleast on Xbox. Secondly you learn that most of the call for help are new core players, so after awhile seeing that your mode is not playable with theirs you kinda stop answering the call on HC. Was it hoping for random HC play on PS?

sly bear
hexed jetty
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Is there an easy way to get to the tidal basin mission? I want to complete that but maybe there is a shortcut of how to level up

sly bear
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Find a friend with a World tier 5 map, while they are running you up have their WT5 character give you 6 PCs of WT5 gear and weapons, you should be able to reach level 30 by just doing main story missions, with a lvl 40 Watch carrying you through. You have to do capital on your own map though to get to WT1. Once there if you have like 3 or 4 friends you can give each one a map and you just jump between bosses. Once you are at the last stronghold before tidal have them give you group lead and after the last stronghold is done you should get WT4. Do the gate house and viola Tidal will be open. The whole process takes any where from 3 to 6 hours all dependent on your friends and how many are running you.

hexed jetty
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Im finally in World Tier 1😱

hexed jetty
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Here is some steps to help you get better gear from the world tier 5 while you are world tier 1.

  1. have or make a second (normal) character.
  2. Get him to world tier 5
  3. Go to the dark zone and extract good loot
  4. Go on your hardcore character
  5. Open your stash, go to the mailbox and you're WT-5 loot will be there.

Just thought about it

worldly loom
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That works, I find it's also worth extracting some max roll WT5 armour cores to your lvl 30 recalibration table along with useful talents, you can apply them as soon as you unlock the table (about lvl 20) and you won't have to worry about armour for a while.

sage tendon
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I enjoy helping people through hardcore mode.

hexed jetty
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I finally completed Hardcore

worldly loom
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oh, it doesn't 'complete' when you beat keener, any more than the base game does. Now you've got shd levels to farm, a build to assemble, etc etc

hexed jetty
worldly loom
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guess that just leaves the 'hardcore dark hours' one then

sage tendon
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Can cheese that one too

sly bear
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Why would you cheese it

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I enjoy the entire experience at WT5 and as a watch doing it. I also enjoyed a full 8 person HC DH

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Much like I enjoy a HC incursion, having a Oroborous on your HC is so much fun

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Wish the game gave a patch or commendation for completing HC incursion or IH HC or HC legendary mission or even a HC leaderboard for raids and Incursions

grave torrent
clear trench
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Hc legendary is something I wanted to do but I'm lazydiv2relax

livid lion
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Hardcore mode can't use stash right? so you can't retrieve item in mailbox.

tame saddle
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You don't have a stash, but it's sort of an oversight that you can still get items out of the mailbox, which is shared by all your characters

swift ivy
quick raptor
south plover
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yeap

steady skiff
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Be careful with that gatling gun at the early part of the Capitol Hill that paves your way in. After activating the button, I ran towards it not waiting for it to finish.

Death registers immediately - late reviver pops on death screen not reviving you. /Feels good 😆

round mauve
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You can also die if you hug the C4 at the very start of the same mission.
Capitol Hill is what we like to call a "teaching moment" for newbies.

digital pebble
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Just started my HC character after buying and not playing this game for YEARS. I have not even really played the campaign. This should be a fun time.

merry goblet
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was going to get back into this. The game still suffer from crash to desktops?

somber zealot
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I remember back on an earlier PC build I had (specs wise), I suffered from crashes quite a lot, having to flush memory and directx cache, but after returning to The Division 2 here in january on my new build, I've had almost no crashes. The few ones I've had was in a safe house looking in the menus.

So I would say no. Go ham! I did venture into HC Division, but I fuck around too much for hardcore in this game, and I enjoy D3 HC and even got to 60 in wow classic hc

round mauve
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@craggy abyss Try LFG'ing for it down in #lfg-hardcore-mode to find people, gl Agent, you'll need it. div2salute

fallow umbra
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would you recommend hardcore mode for someone who wants to relive the dv2 story?

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i know its perma death im wondering if its even worth pursueing

round mauve
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If you want to experience the story, an errant bug ending it prematurely might ruin the experience a bit.

fallow umbra
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is hardcore mode in a very buggy state?

round mauve
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Hardcore will forever be "in beta", since it's a passion project.

fallow umbra
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passion project?

round mauve
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aka: made by 1-2 people, as a "for fun" thing, not really a full on supported mode.

fallow umbra
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i see

worldly loom
crude reef
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The commendation "Reach Gear Score 500 with a Hardcore Agent", how far do we need to go to get the commendation? Like get to Tire 5 or only finish the story missions and side missions in DC?

worldly loom
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you just need to reach gear score 500, side missions have no bearing on that - but you have to get to WT5 before gear in that score range starts dropping (unless you extracted it from DZ on SC agent and claimed on your HC)

twin gorge
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Equip weapons/gear so that the average gear score is 500 and over

swift ivy
sage tendon
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Just go in the dz on your hardcore agent

swift ivy
livid lion
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for PS console you can go DZ on hardcore agent. since there is no people or may be few in console

tired palm
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What is the impact of having a mixed level team (e.g. Lvl 3 with a Lvl 16)? I expect that like non-HC there is scaling for more team members but does it scala at Lvl 16, Lvl 3 or something in between?

tired palm
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I think the better way to ask this question "Is scaling in hardcore the same in non-hardcore?"

safe gazelle
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yes. The lower level player is treated as if all they and all their items are level 15.

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All scaling is disabled when too far away from the higher level player, or if the player reaches one level below the highest ally.

tired palm
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Thanks for the confirmation, greatly appreciated.

worldly loom
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So, HC stash now? Does it share items between HC characters?

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If so, re-gearing after a death is going to be easy faster & easier

frank blade
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I joined this server to ask about the HC stash. Is that intentional? There's nothing about it in the patch notes

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If it's not intentional and gets fixed at some point, will we lose all items in the stash? I've been hesitant to use it because of that

worldly loom
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We're all wondering the same thing. I'd be inclined to guess it's here to stay, but it's probably safer to just use it to save some spare starter gear for your next fresh lvl 30/40 character, and nothing too critical.

frank blade
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Yeah, I guess I'll go with that, thanks! I haven't played a lot of HC, and just got to WT1 for the first time (on my fourth HC character)

visual aurora
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climbing up the WT sucks, really want to get to NY but I'm not patient enough for it

worldly loom
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When you get to WT5, take the time to put a strong build together which you can then stash for future characters.
I'd also recommend extracting a few max armour rolls to your lvl 30 recal library, you'll be able to apply them to lower level gear as soon as you unlock the bench, about lvl 22, which will give a huge survivability boost at that stage.

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For the WTs themselves I find a skill hybrid to be effective, red cores are weak at that stage but skills scale automatically, and in sync weapon talent gives a solid boost to both weapon and skill damage if you use something like a striker drone

sage tendon
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HC servers are shit right now. Very unstable.

keen dagger
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HC stash box is for HC only…If you die the items in the stash stay for when you get your HC back or multiple HC’s…But you can no longer farm DZ on softcore then leave it in your stash for HC…

severe warren
timid sapphire
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Well at least you have some gear for a new start

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Wait you can extract DZ gear on SC and Claim it with an HC Agent?

verbal drum
timid sapphire
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Dude thats fucking Awesome

timid sapphire
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Yea thats bull, just extracted 4 items from SC to see if i can gear up an HC Character and they dont appear in my Mailbox for HC

worldly loom
timid sapphire
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@worldly loom well that sucks cause now I have to be slow and methodic till I get my HB Build then I could be a little lose!

sly bear
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Yeah HC mailbox is only for HC now

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Core and HC stash and mailbox doesn’t mix

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Anymore

main skiff
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Lfg to help me out with keener mission any takers who are willing to help me out please would be very much appreciated

crude reef
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I was hoping I could get some gear from my regular toon stash until I realize hardcore toon don't share the stash

viral wadi
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looks like the recal library transfers from your main as soon as you get to wony, which is nice

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being able to transfer gear from reg to hc was always pretty lame

keen dagger
true smelt
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does the reviver hive work on a hardocore agent when downed?

maiden bay
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Does anyone want to run descent on HC?

true smelt
true smelt
hybrid spade
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Can you transfer gear from HC to HC in the stash?

twin gorge
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Yes

buoyant acorn
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There isn't team killing in hardcore, correct?

worldly loom
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Same rules as the rest of the game, you can kill other players in dz or by shooting explosive things next to them, but can't really hurt them otherwise.

copper ocean
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whats the difference with hardcore mode??

round mauve
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If you die in hardcore, you go back to the log in screen. Character is dead forever.
think "perma death".

sand linden
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If I'm doing PVP on a hardcore Agent, are all the other players Hardcore too? Is Hardcore like— a completely different server for everything? @round mauve

somber zealot
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It's one of those things where it's most certainly the case, however you'd have to be some special kind of masochist to PvP on a Hardcore character

sand linden
somber zealot
frank flame
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Dead dz pov

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The adrenaline when you meet another player though lol

boreal thicket
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No but some are separated and some aren’t

round mauve
sage tendon
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HC+ PVP = FUN

wispy rain
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if you did in pvp does it still count

frank raptor
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no conflict, but in dz yes.

thorny nebula
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what is the best way to level?

worldly loom
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When leveling 1-40 or shd levels?

somber zealot
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Avoiding death

sage tendon
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I like running my new HC character with a friend that is lvl 40 in a world tier map

sly bear
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In my opinion HC players killing other HC players is absurd. The grind from the coastal settlement to watch is hard enough. Killing other HC players unless it’s in defense is just unnecessary toxicity. If you wanna play PVP take it to core play. Our community is small enough already killing one another is just not right. The game wants to kill me already with its DC’s and issues, worrying about other HC players trying to kill you is just crazy.

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The community in general is about helping one another staying alive. You can’t boost your character back if you die and you lose everything that’s on you when you get killed

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The stash has helped a lot with this

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Hardcore servers are separate from regular core gameplay. However we can raid and do countdown with core players.

somber zealot
sly bear
# somber zealot What are you ranting about mate?

Hardcore PVP comments. Those looking to get on HC to kill other HC agents. It takes about 6 to 8 hours to run HC agents up if you have a team and a good group. If not it’s about 3 to 6 days depending on how much time a person has time to play

somber zealot
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If you go into a Dark Zone, you know the risks. You're a masochist, if you do it on HC - but to each their own.
It has nothing to do with toxicity. DZ and Rogue is DZ and Rogue. Don't go into the DZ on HC, if you don't want to risk it.
The whole point of playing HC is for the risk of perma-death.

twin gorge
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It does have to do with toxicity as any other pvp mode. The main hardcore discord for example does not tolerate killing HC characters unprovoked or hunting players down.

As for going into the DZ there's little reason to do so nowadays, true for softcore but even moreso for a HC player. That doesn't excuse toxic behaviour.

somber zealot
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Coming from HC WoW Classic: If I intentionally go into a zone where I am - basically (as for the DZ) - PvP Flagged. I know the damn risks.
You could grief players in HC WoW Classic by leashing mobs onto them - but div2 is not mmo in that aspect and it's not possible to grief people by dragging an NPC to them.

If you go into the DZ, you better be on high-alert - that goes for both soft-core and hard-core.
The concept of the DZ is revolved around going Rogue - if you say that is toxic, then why are you even in there in the first place.
What is toxic - no matter if you're permadeath or not - is to pretend to be friendly at extraction, go Rogue and kill everyone - but that is also just how the DZ is.

If you want PvP in HC, that is the rules you gotta live with. Because DZ is the only place you can PvP.

round mauve
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@golden vessel You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode, this channel is just for discussing the mode.
GL Agent div2salute

swift ivy
somber zealot
swift ivy
# somber zealot Yeah, but those are safe ways - especially Descent lol

Actually if you don’t mind your character dying — clans focused or with many HC players may have teams that just do fast and regular leveling — HC used to be a quite efficient way in getting an empty DZ for farming, of course with the occasional risks. Also I heard the situation is not comparable on PC vs. consoles, with respect to the rampant hacking/cheating on the former.

sly bear
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I understand the risk and I understand that DZ game content provides for HC players to go PVP on one another. I don’t roll in there with out Atleast 4 to 8 and if a HC rogue can take out 8 players awesome I would probably be more amazed than mad. Maybe a little bit mad but not as much. I know HC clans that were mad simply by folks meeting one another in the HC. There used to be a mutual respect back in the day., knowing the grind back to watch and than farming al their builds back. Now that we have a stash though the deaths don’t seem as bad just farming back the build you lost when you died.

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Play HC in DZ how you like I was just stating an opinion about HC PvP

livid lion
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Hey i have question on hardcore mode, did they finally open their own stash for the hardcore?

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I mean storage, hardcore storage. I just realized it, when playing hardcore right now.

swift ivy
livid lion
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Did the stash also deleted when dead?

worldly loom
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No

livid lion
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Is it true?? Oh i can reserve some weapon then. But it doesnt feel like hardcore at all when we dont need to find good weapon again.

twin gorge
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You're not forced to use the stash though
And they removed the possibility of sharing softcore items (DZ extraction for example)

livid lion
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Oh ok thanks

swift ivy
livid lion
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Do any 1 in here can tell me how to evade ambush in mission. I got killed again level 17, suddenly they spawn at right side me and there is bomber also.

swift ivy
# livid lion Do any 1 in here can tell me how to evade ambush in mission. I got killed again ...

I assume you are playing solo. When leveling solo I vastly prefer to play with skills, and have patience to let the skills (e.g. the assault drone) do the work for you. Sit preferably behind a funnel where you can aim for rushing enemy types. Also notice that the level of the enemies in a main mission is max(mission_level, your_level - 2), so you can time it such that you are 2 levels above the enemies — do the side missions until you are 2 levels above the main mission. And generally, when you start to play in the Outcast area, consider having either the reviver hive or unbreakable.
Of course, you would be safer just leveling in a group.
If you can mention which specific mission you meant, I can provide more detailed tips.

worldly loom
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iirc, story mode missions have fixed spawns, so you could just learn them through practice and you won't have to worry about unexpected 'ambushes' (except in the open world)

proper summit
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can someone explain to a noob how the stash even work

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i have a char in HC who reached "endgame"

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and started another, can i pass some stuff before, or do i need to reach lv 30 and buy stared stash?

worldly loom
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stash works exactly as it does for SC characters, but with different contents

proper summit
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OK, something else, a friend joined and enemy became lv 30+

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meant they would one hit right? (2nd char lv 12)

worldly loom
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no, it levels you up as well as the enemies

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means you get more kill xp

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main thing to watch for is if your friend crashes or disconnects suddenly, you'll lose the extra levels immediately but any enemies already spawned will not, THEN they'll one-shot you

swift ivy
proper summit
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how do i set private lobby

worldly loom
proper summit
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thanks

livid lion
worldly loom
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For virus data download, DCD mission, just stay back by the computer, the enemies spawn at the other end of the corridor so you've got lots of time to shoot them before they reach you. If you push up to their spawns then you'll be in trouble.

swift ivy
livid lion
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What kind of aggro skill would be good? I use drone all the time to distract them

worldly loom
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striker drone is generally my favourite for levelling, it distracts, can highlight enemies you didn't spot, and does reasonable damage (also, blue and yellow cores on armor while levelling are more useful than red ones, and expertise on skills is account-wide so you can upgrade it further from SC)

livid lion
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Wut so expertise on skill is carry on hardcore also. Ok i will level it up

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I am level 6 right now, using sniper and smg for weapon. Right now clans shop sells unbreakable armor so i got it from there. Thanks for the tips

swift ivy
proper summit
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Unrelated but anyone has knowledge of graphics settings that clog the engine?, seems like some area are stuck at 60fps and gpu % wont go up

frank flame
proper summit
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seems like in some area the more you cranck certain settings the less the gpu%.
Am running a 2060s on 2k with 32gb of ram and tweaked settings, cpu is a i7 13700kf

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and in some area i get 60ish fps and temps sitting at 55°, meaning it's barely utilized...i tought they fixed the game...doesnt even support dlss bruh

frank flame
proper summit
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they are locked at 90, just certain area the fps drops heavily, btw someone suggested this settings:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekZQcGK3Prw, 15:50 timestamp, ill test when i get home.

Dx12,lowering fog to low and object detail to 60 improved quite a bit

honest tree
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is it safe to do tidal basin solo on HC?

twin gorge
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Yes it's not hard at all, take your time with the rockets

quick raptor
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Nowhere is safe with crashes and deltas

proper summit
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they fixed crashes

round mauve
solar dock
round mauve
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I'm not offering to join, I'm letting you know where to go and ask for help.
This channel is just for discussing the mode itself.

solar dock
worldly loom
marsh tinsel
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I'm starting my 5th run thru

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And I'm going at snails pace

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Very conservative

frank flame
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Hey I’m world tier 2 and still won’t let me go to ny how comes ?

proper summit
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reach T5 i think or 4 (don't remember what's the max)

humble zephyr
eager token
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should I jump straight to NY expansion after reached lvl30?

worldly loom
# eager token should I jump straight to NY expansion after reached lvl30?

it can be useful to take the time to put a few handy things (eg max armor cores) in your lvl 30 recal library - if you end up levelling a new HC character through you'll be able to apply them as soon as you unlock the desk (about lvl 22) which gives you a huge survivability boost.
Now we have a HC stash you could also put a decent WT5 build in there, which will make a future run through the world tiers a lot easier.

safe gazelle
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It won't let you until you complete tidal basin and reach wt5. Personally once I get to wt5 I farm for a decent amount of credits to recal, do weekly shd requisition, and pickup holster project from anaya then go to NY

proper summit
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so i took another char to "endgame", what's some solo fun build easy to do, also i need some tips on content farming or what to do right after level 40 cuz i don't remember with my main, thanks

random bay
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Bloodsucker on the backpack

indigo harness
austere gyro
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you cant even maintain 200 stack

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waste of chest talent.

amber thunder
austere gyro
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you never need striker chest out of incursion tho

velvet solar
austere gyro
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I dont think someone has enough balls to do legendary on hardcore agent

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maybe with group but solo..

velvet solar
sly bear
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So no more world tiers

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Wonder what happens when we die.

errant locust
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Then we're dead 😂

sly bear
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No WT so saves us about 30 mins before we go to NY

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But it also says you don’t need to go to NY to get to 40 or get your watch

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So you can simply stay in DC and get your watch

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I assume

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Foot note says you don’t need to go to NY get to 40 or get your watch

twin gorge
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Saves us 6 invaded missions, strongholds are still around
And we need to see if there's any XP buff or debuff during the campaign

jolly zephyr
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What is hardcore mode in TD do just delete the character if you die or something

tame saddle
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Pretty much

sly bear
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Taking away WT has screwed the HC boasting process immensely

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If you die 0-30 will be a longer run up than normal

twin gorge
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Yep it's awful for HC chars

We all thought "oh nice to have a stash in HC" but all of this is just changes for the seasonal character

If there was a boost system I wouldn't complain (they should consider it but of course they won't do it) but I dunno if I want to regrind again when the char dies (and it will die to some crash/delta issue)

worldly loom
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So, with the new seasonal character thing next season, seems likely that anyone who already has 4 characters and who makes it through with a new seasonal HC will end up wanting to delete them to make room for the subsequent season, which gives us an opportunity: HC battle royales in the DZ! Could be an entertaining way of deleting your character.

tame saddle
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HC iron horse runs, let's goooo

primal sage
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@dawn summit It's against the #rules to post links to your own Twitch or YouTube or any other Social Media site. 🙂

dawn summit
marsh tinsel
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I guess it's time to try HC again

brisk socket
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Lol I regret deleting my hardcore character 2 years ago

steady lotus
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Has anyone had issues come up with doing the new manhunt on their hardcore character? It lets me start it, but it never progresses past the cinder block.

viral burrow
steady lotus
# viral burrow No problems with that. I completed Echo.

Was that before this last patch update? I had completed it before the update with no issues….. went to reset it, so I could run it with friends who hadn’t completed it yet, and it glitched out no matter whose map we are on. Any thoughts or advice?

viral burrow
viral burrow
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What exactly happens? Or does not happen?

steady lotus
livid crag
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Is Darkzone also PvPvE as hardcore?

twin gorge
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Yes you die there it's permanent. Only descent is not permadeath

keen frost
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as much as i have died i am quite enjoying hardcore

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and learning laot more about the division cuz im slowwed wwwway down

round mauve
keen frost
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any tips for hard core mode to get past the lvl 20 area seems thats where i die the most

worldly loom
keen frost
crude reef
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Try to find a chest piece that has unbreakable talent. It saved mine a few time from dying.

dawn summit
# keen frost thx for the tips and i am always lvl 20 before i go in

Use every piece of gear that gives more armor. If you got some talents on your backpack, get maybe Bloodsucker and for chest piece go with Unbreakable.
Your weapons will do just fine without any damage boost while leveling. Don't forget to always keep a revive hive on you and use the other skill maybe a striker drone or assault turret or a shield. Something to distract some enemies or to absorb some of the damage for you.
As for weapons, ARs and Rifles are the way to go. If you have a talent on your weapon, try to go for preservation for some armor on kill.

jolly herald
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Hey agents just like to know if anyone is having issues with their hard-core character on Xbox. I hit level 40 and unlocked keener watch but for some reason I can't travel to New York

steady lotus
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I have had all kinds of issues and glitches with hardcore. I gave up trying to get developers to help. Good luck. Just create another character.

jolly herald
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@steady lotus yeah it's bugged I've tried everything possible and nothing works. Hopefully the devs see this on work on fixing it

tame saddle
dawn summit
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To all hardcore agents, clan vendor is selling lvl 15 or higher backpack with bloodsucker on it. get it before reset on tuesday

keen frost
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I wish I had a clan with a vendor lol

worldly loom
gritty stag
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If a HC char dies, will the next char get the SHD level of the previous one once 40 is reached?

worldly loom
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Yes

gritty stag
frank flame
twin gorge
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There are plenty of open clans at level 30 if you just want the clan vendor

iron flare
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What level under 30 is best to start cranking on all the side missions? Do they still give a third of a level?

worldly loom
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whenever you like, later is better and if you can leave some altogether it can be useful to limit bounty spawn locations

dawn summit
rotund maple
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Anyone know where I can jump in a Hardcore raid? Need help finding for xbox.

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Any help would be appreciated 🙏.

round mauve
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@rotund maple You'll have to make sure you have your roles picked over in id:customize, and then once that's done, go to #lfg-raid-console and search up "GCrock", those are your best choices.

placid sorrel
sly bear
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👀

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We did for awhile but most folks have moved on to other games

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Its hard to find 4 for HC incursion

placid sorrel
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Really? I remember that you had full HC groups for raids 😅 I am sorry! I have started a HC agent again but I need to reach level 40 first 😂

round mauve
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There's #lfg-hardcore-mode for specifically HC stuff, that's the only other option.
ether way, can't check in this channel, so search for the places we've suggested and GL Agent div2salute

sly bear
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Taking away the WTs has made things even easier

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Getting a watch in DC has made NY even easier

rotund maple
rotund maple
rotund maple
sly bear
west heath
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Can you get your watch without beating keener in hardcore?

worldly loom
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Note that some endgame stuff is bugged until you beat Keener though

sly bear
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Yeah you can’t do countdowns, raids, summit and incursions if you don’t beat keener. Plus it’s four free skills

true osprey
sly bear
true osprey
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I can only tell you from a PC perspective

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Can't imagine it would differ greatly though?

sly bear
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I have not died in awhile or atleast not since the new season dropped so I don’t know first hand just for some reason my guys and gals can’t get int CD or raids without beating keener

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I know the devs said that getting your watch in DC should open the game up for everyone if you go to NY or not but it meant seem to be the case for the returning HC players that got their watches back in DC

true osprey
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I personnaly would always finish WONY anyway, I would just feel incomplete without the skills from NY.

sly bear
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I use the decoy, burn sticky and explosive sticky so I always do it

true osprey
sly bear
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We have a 5 hour maintenance right now maybe that will fix it

true osprey
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I think I went to NY just to get the sticky bomb skill, then went back to DC. Countdown worked in as much as I could join a session but I was sometimes not getting any loot drops, sometimes I would find myself in a session all alone even though it said I was grouped, and my character was kinda "ghost like" looking and the rest of the group kept looking at me strange. It wasn't until I noticed it on another player that I realised what was going on. Think I have a screenshot of it

sly bear
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That is strange

true osprey
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Ah, cant post images

sly bear
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The folks that I helped couldn’t even join it literally won’t let them

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Not until they beat keener could they join in a CD

true osprey
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sent you the image

sly bear
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Atleast that’s what they said

true osprey
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I've not died in HC for some time, maybe something changed when they implemented having to go to the Quatermaster to activate the watch

crisp haven
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Just started hardcore and I must say
I've never been so terrified of dying in a game lol

true osprey
crisp haven
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Yea
I turned from a shotgun wielding maniac
To a slow and keep my distance sniper lol

west heath
sly bear
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Once you get comfortable though you can run like core, just be more cognizant and observant, you learn where the spawn points are and it’s no different than being on your core character.

round mauve
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@dark escarp You're looking for #lfg-pc, this channel is just for discussing the mode.
You'll also need to hop on over to id:customize and pick PC too.

dark escarp
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Ok

sly bear
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Before First descendant dropped I had a crew that ran IH and DH and incursions. But new games dropped and a lot of folks left for those. Mostly what I have left most of the time are folks who just enjoy xp grinding

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So back to trying to get to 20k

round mauve
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@finite trench This channel is specifically about discussing the perma-death mode of div2, to LFG for said-mode, head on over to #lfg-hardcore-mode

finite trench
spare matrix
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is there additional rewards to doing TD2 Hardcore?

sly bear
# spare matrix is there additional rewards to doing TD2 Hardcore?

Yes kind of, there is the yolo hat once you reach the White House and speak to everyone and get to the theater and talk to Odessa. Us day 1 HC who played during the WTs recieved the WT5 500+ gear score patch, when we got our gear score above 500 (now unavailable because there is no more WTs), and the coveted 1% of players who can do DHs on their HC commendation and patch. And than the pure sheer excitement of playing the game on a whole different level than other people.

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We have been in Beta mode for 5 years so if anything goes wrong you can’t complain to the devs that you lost your character due to a unforeseen DC or power/internet outage

spare matrix
twin gorge
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If you're looking for specific rewards in HC that's it, HC is fun since you have to plan and play differently but it's definitely not for everyone

sly bear
round mauve
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"too long; didn't read"

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It's usually put before an overly long paragraph so you can get your point across in a snappy way, and give the full info below.

sly bear
sly bear
sly orchid
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My HC ripped just turned Lvl 30. Boohoo. Her Valor shall be remembered. My own fault though.
Rolling a new one of course.
I take it boosting thru campaign is not a thing with HC ? (PS5).

sly bear
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HC can not be boosted on any platform

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If you have a good group of friends or community that you run with they can help with your story mode.

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Try out the LFG here for other PS players on HC maybe a few of them
Might help you

sly orchid
glad pewter
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How you fellers feeling about hardcore mode finally getting some attention/updates next season?

twin gorge
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What attention/updates? Only thing I heard is they want to look into it at some point but nothing specific

glad pewter
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Okay. I think I have been mislead. A mod mentioned this to me yesterday regarding hardcore mode: "we're looking into it for this Season/the future"

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but after reading the Q&A of the stream, I read that they are not focused on hardcore mode this season but is something they are looking into the future. So kinda dissapointed with that. Really wish they just stuck with seasonal characters.

glad pewter
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The way the mod worded it, I though hardcore mode was getting updated for this season.

worldly loom
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I suspect the most we can hope for is a new patch for completing the season pass on HC or something

glad pewter
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Playing the PTS now. Seasons 2.0 is mid as hell without wipes. Hardcore mode needs to be updated to suppliment the cancellation fo wipes. Seasons 2.0 is not enought for at least to dedciat time to playing.

round mauve
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"Looking into" does not mean "the change is coming very soon/right away". It means that it has not been forgotten and will come eventually, unless more information is given out later where it's cancelled.

glad pewter
# round mauve "Looking into" does not mean "the change is coming very soon/right away". It mea...

I understand just the way the original message was worded I read it as the team was looking into updating hardcore to be ready for the upcoming season. But what was meant was they are looking to put time into updating the mode during the course of next season to be ready for a future season. Either way, put some time into the PTS today. Made me more dissapointed seasonal characters are not coming with 2.0. I don't see how these chagnes with 2.0 incentise maxed out, geared players like how wipes would. I can tell the devs put a lot of thought, effort and time into designing 2.0 around the idea of wipes. Also noticed how disappointed they looked during the stream when they said seasonal characters will not be coming. Devs needs to seriously reconsider seasonal characters, even if they are optional and not mandatory in order to play through the seasonal content. I don't see why seasonal characters couldn't be optional for players like how hardcore mode is.

worldly loom
glad pewter
# worldly loom Seasonal characters are always an option: just create a new character each seaso...

This is no where near the same experience nor the same of having actual seasonal characters that wipe every seasons. Too add, my SHD watch level still transfers over to any new character granting the equivalent amount of watch to points as my SHD level; which defeats the entire purpose of creating a new character. Seasons 2.0 feels bland, boring and stale without seasonal characters. We're essentially doing the same thing, on the same maxed out character's season after season with no real incentive to coming back each season. Playing the PTS and it's apparent how much seasons 2.0 was designed around the idea of players going into each season on a fresh character and the devs are making the biggest mistake in this game's development by not going forward with wipes. Seasons 2.0 is going to end up having the same fundemental issues that we have with the game now. Once a player reaching the gear ceiling, they lose interest and have no real incentive to actually keep playing.

worldly loom
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Maybe just don't spend your watch points until you've earned more? You'll get the health bonus but that won't realistically change anything.

glad pewter
# worldly loom Maybe just don't spend your watch points until you've earned more? You'll get t...

I get what you're saying, but my character is still the same level as my main, shares my stash with my main and doesn't actually feel like a new character at all. When I did create a new character and hit level 40, when I saw I had 5.8k watch points, I legit thought it was a bug. I didn't know characters share progression like that. I think it's critical mistake for this game's long term health to not have seasonal characters in 2.0, but that's not the topic of this chat. Since seasonal characters unfortunately got cancelled, the only thing for me that'll peak my interest in this game again is updates to hardcore mode. TD2 needs to offers an experience for players who want a less casual gameplay loop in which keeps each season feeling fresh. Going into new content every season on the same maxed out build doesn't make new seasons actually feel like new seasons at all or create enough of incentive to return each season. The devs should just update hardcore mode and have seasonal characters replace hardcore mode. Keep it optional for players who want to go into each season on a fresh character while still allowing players to continue the seasonal content on their mains. win-win for both parties.

worldly loom
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It does seem kind of a shame that HC characters have saved shd level and now stash, would definitely add to the adrenaline if you truly restarted from scratch every time you died.
I do know a HC fanatic who regularly buys new copies of the game on new accounts so he can get a proper fresh sense of progression from scratch.

glad pewter
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I thought hardcore characters do start from scratch after we died? I mean, not just from scratch, but from the very begining of the game.

sudden rune
glad pewter
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Do hardcore characters share SHD levels from previous hardcore characters?

sudden rune
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Yes

glad pewter
# sudden rune Yes

has it always been like this? kind of a bummer. I have yet to make it to level 40 on a hardcore character, so IDK. Just hope to see some changes to hardcore mode. Kinda of annoying doing the 30-40 minute intro missions every time.

sudden rune
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The shared watch has always been so, the stash came later

glad pewter
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oh. gotcha.

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about the missions. IDK. I just think there has to be some update that passes the intro missions of the game after getting killed.

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Have a smooth compromise that puts us right back into the sh!t after getting killed without the hassle of intro missions, but still retaining the burtually and conequence of getting killed. This is why I was in support of seasonal wipes. Seaosnal wipes IMO was essentailly turning each seasons into a 4 month survivial mode.

sudden rune
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Tbh, I don't think anything needs to change. I've died a few times, I'm only ~740 SHD right now as I'm mostly solo and use a more defence-minded build, but grinding through the missions to get back to 40 isn't that long. It's the loss of optimized gear and exotics that takes the time to replace. That's enough consequence for me.

glad pewter
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I really do enjoy the experience of hardcore mode. I think the mode better compliments the lore of the game.

glad pewter
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I would play through seasons 2.0 on hardcore mode, but I know at somepoint I am going to get killed, which is why I think the mode just needs a small tweak to be worth maining. The biggest turn off for me is just having to do those intro missions again. That's it. Rather be killed, then be able to get back on that grind without that hassle of those missions or having to grind to level 40 again. I think the mode still has huge potential if the devs give it some attention.

sudden rune
glad pewter
# sudden rune So where do you propose it restarts?

Directly into the endgame. Or allow for a boost that puts players there if they don't want to do that. Put us in the endgame as if we completed the WoNY storyline. So we still lose our build/gear, but don't have to play throught the baselines missions again to get back to grinding.

sudden rune
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Sooo… where’s the hardcore part fit in?

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That defeats the purpose of permadeath

glad pewter
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We still lose our gear/build, but can go about into the endgame missions/activities/seasonal stuff.

sudden rune
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That’s like saying if we die irl we can respawn as a teenager. I think you’re missing the entire point of the mode

glad pewter
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There's still that fear and intensity of getting killed because we lose our gear, but I do think having to replay the story missions and the WoNY mission every time is a drag.

sudden rune
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You can skip WONY now though. I died last week for the first time since season 6 started, and did WONY after level 40 which was much easier.

glad pewter
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oh. That's cool. When did they add the option to skip WoNY?

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Did they add the level 30 boost option to hardcore mode?

sudden rune
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No. You can get to level 40 and get the SHD watch now without the DLC

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It changed at the start of S6

glad pewter
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oh yeah. I know that, but if you don't complete the NYC DLC, you don't get the endgame projects. You're still stuck with the storyline projects and if you travel to NYC it bugs out the projects complelty

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The projects stay bugged out until you complete the NYC storyline.

sudden rune
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But sorry to say but no one will agree with you about removing permadeath. It’s a key feature of the mode.

glad pewter
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I am not saying to remove permadeath. We still lose that agent and have to create a new one if we get killed, but we just don't have to go through the intro or baseline story missions.

sudden rune
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Permadeath means starting fresh out of the box. Starting at endgame would make no sense.

glad pewter
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Isn't the endgame why you rush through the intro missions after getting killed on hardcore mode?

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I don't see how starting in the endgame on hardcore mode mitigates the experience when we still are losing that agent, gear and have to create a new one and re-loot gear. There's still that intensity and rush of not wanting to get killed.

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Mabye with Seaons 2.0 hardcore mode might play out a bit different IDK.

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2.0 is fun, but for me isn't enough to keep me playing. I'd main hardcore mode on seasons 2.0 if we can treat hardcore mode as somewhat seasonal wipes.

sudden rune
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Who’s ‘we’? You’ve said you haven’t even made it to endgame on a HC.

glad pewter
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But that's where the real grind starts, is in the endgame.

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Everything before the endgame is kinda pointless when we've played it over a dozen times.

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Seen it, done it, lemme grind.

sudden rune
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The entire point is DON’T DIE MOTHERF*CKER!

glad pewter
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I KNOW

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but at somepoint we are going to get killed by some shit.

sudden rune
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It wouldn’t be half as punishing if we didn’t have to start from the very beginning. If you can’t grasp that, we’re done here.

glad pewter
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I get what you're saying. The fact we have to go through the storyline again is part of the punishment of dying.

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I used to play the hell out of Tarkov and got into Grayzone, I just think allowing us to bypass the intro b.s gives us a similar feel and experience to what those games offer.

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I'll probably fire up a hardcore agent for seasons 2.0 to see how it fits.

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Tarkov is brutal when dying and doesn't force players to start the game completely over when getting killed. That's where I am coming from in my viewpoint on hardcore mode.

sudden rune
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I died with 8 days of playtime on my HC last week. I know and respect the fact I have to start from ZERO.

You sound like you’re playing the wrong game, what with this and your crusade for seasonal characters. If you want to play Tarkov so much, why don’t you go back there and leave TD2 alone?

twin gorge
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Devs gave us stash, and getting your char back to SHD doesn't take long
This isn't tarkov and it shouldn't be imo

glad pewter
sudden rune
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Then stop trying to make this into Tarkov.

glad pewter
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crazy you died after 8 days thought. Respect for going back in.

twin gorge
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Ultimately there has to be a punishment for dying and that's redoing the campaign world tiers and warlords and losing everything in inventory (stash remains)

sudden rune
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Well, not world tiers now… that WAS a pain

twin gorge
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Yep invasion

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Those 6 missions were awful

glad pewter
sudden rune
twin gorge
glad pewter
twin gorge
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Anyone who enjoys hardcore plans ahead

sudden rune
glad pewter
sudden rune
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I died with my best gear. But now I only ever carry one loadout. And if I get duplicates of my loadouts I stash them, though they’re not optimised or the ideal rolls.

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I started (initially) when there was no stash and the game crashed every 5 minutes. Luckily I never died to a crash, and now even if the game crashes, hardcores are instantly disconnected from the server so that the chance of dying is low. But I didn’t come back to it for a long time, hence my low SHD level.

glad pewter
# twin gorge Yes and no. Why should there be shortcuts especially with a stash now?

I just don't see how starting in the endgame is a shortcut. That's where the meat, gravy is for the game and is where the real grind begins. I get what ya''l are saying about the baseline missions being part of the punishment of dying, but especially with seasons 2.0 coming up, I don't see how bypassing the intro missions is a shortcut when seaons 2.0 does offer a great deal of challenging changes.

sudden rune
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Dude, how is it not a shortcut, when you haven’t even made it to the endgame yet?

glad pewter
sudden rune
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You can’t.

twin gorge
glad pewter
sudden rune
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The entire base game IS NOT just ‘intro missions’ though, is it.

twin gorge
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The purpose of hardcore is not dying, many people die during the campaign

sudden rune
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You’re trivialising the whole entire base game.

glad pewter
twin gorge
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Plus it's a different side to the game with a different approach since you don't have endgame sets

glad pewter
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I am not suggesting skipping the game, just the introduction part of the game.

sudden rune
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That’s not what you’ve said this whole time. You’ve said about skipping to endgame.

glad pewter
sudden rune
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But, that said, starting from scratch means being a fresh agent that needs an introduction. It’s not exactly long. Especially now that you can completely change your appearance at the Barber. You can just pick anything to get started faster.

glad pewter
# sudden rune But, that said, starting from scratch means being a fresh agent that needs an in...

I get what you're saying, but it's still a drag to the overall experience. I think there is still room for a smooth compromise bridging the gap from dying and not having to listen to these people yap while still keeping the mode intense. Like I mentioned before. Treat new hardcore agents as if they are part of another wave, but not as if it's the very start of the situation in D.C like how the intro missions are presented. A lot has happened from what we see during intro scenes up until now.

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Have y'all ever gone into DZs on Hardcore?

twin gorge
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Between cheaters and nothing relevant there no

sudden rune
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I don’t even go into the DZ on main anymore. Too many sweats and cheaters.

glad pewter
sudden rune
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I’m not going in to find out

glad pewter
twin gorge
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Pvp sweat players are a different breed

glad pewter
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The chicken dancing is crazy

twin gorge
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People normally go in groups so if you're solo you're going to get ganked

sudden rune
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There’s nothing in there I want badly enough to lose my character over. I have The Gift and a few Dark Winters from Named Caches.

twin gorge
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And for what? Dz levels? Lol

glad pewter
twin gorge
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I have all the dz named blueprints whats the point

glad pewter
sudden rune
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Is Descent a safe death for HC? I presume so as it’s only a simulation?

glad pewter
sudden rune
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Was looking at @twin gorge tbh

glad pewter
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oh

twin gorge
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If you're farming blueprints it's a decent way to level up, rather useless below l40

sudden rune
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Awesome. I’ll look into it then. Thanks 🙏🏻

torpid moon
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So you lose everything in this game?

sudden rune
# torpid moon So you lose everything in this game?

In hardcore mode, if you die you lose everything you were wearing/carrying, and your character is deleted. You have to start the game from the beginning. The only thing you keep is anything you put in the stash, and any SHD levels you had, assuming you got to level 40+ and acquired the Watch.

glad pewter
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Any idea in seasons 2.0 if we are able to start grinding the seasonal content out the gate on hardcore characters?

sudden rune
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A fresh one? Start a HC on the PTS and find out.

glad pewter
sudden rune
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Tbf I have no idea but I’d have thought so?

glad pewter
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As long as we can start the seasonal stuff without going through the linear storyline, I’m cool with that.

glad pewter
sudden rune
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Same.

glad pewter
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If you get the chance, let me know if we can do HC on the PTS. Won’t be able to check for a few more hours.

sly bear
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I just want a leaderboard for us HC players

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I want a HC IH patch or commendation

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I want a HC Incursion patch or commendation, I know there’s flaw less ones but that just not the same.

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But a HC leaderboard for times completed and raid clears on HC or even a full up HC 8 person raid leaderboard

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I don’t want that skip the coastal settlement

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I have died 53 times with a ShD score of 15200 on HC and have completed incursions and Raids also full 8 persons HC Raids

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I saw the PC HC folks do it and I was like I want that 🤣

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One of my LTs spammed the PTS about HC 🤣

worldly loom
round mauve
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It should be noted that you need to be Lvl 40 to get to and past the Lvl 4 of Journeys.
Lvl 1 is 10, 2 is 20, etc.

glad pewter
glad pewter
# round mauve It should be noted that you need to be Lvl 40 to get to and past the Lvl 4 of Jo...

I want to follow up on my discussion about hardcore characters from earlier. I am not suggesting a level 40 boost on hardcore characters after dying, but I am suggesting a re-center of focus to the level 1-40 progression after creating a new HC character after a death. Instead of the level 1-40 progression being focused on forcing the player to go through the story in a linear fashion, the districts are all streamlined to level 1, removing the level requirements for each district and instead matching the players initial starting level and then scaling with the player's level as it does now. When creating a new character after getting killed in HC, players have the freedom to begin leveling up and farming in Foggy Bottom if they choose vs having to reach X level to unlock that district. I just want to be clear, players still have to reach level 40 to unlock the watch on every new HC with no option to boost. Seasons 2.0 offers much more content than the baseline story and I don't think players should have to spend 20-30 hours going through the story to unlock each district in order to start on seasonal content or invaded missions. I still don't think I am making my thoughts clear here, but I hope this is somewhat making sense.

glad pewter
# worldly loom Yeah the seasonal journey is designed to be started from level 1, they obviously...

I don't mind starting off from level 1, I just don't want to start off at level 1 and then go through the storyline like it is now every season. What I mean by this is that we start at level 1 and have to go through the base story in a certain order. Remove the district level restriction and streamline the districts all to level 1 so players have the freedom to progress to level 40 how they want to. Essentially, start off in the endgame, but at level 1 and players still have to progress to level 40 to unlock the watch. This way we are not forced to do introductory missions, activities or spend ~25 hours unlocking the invaded missions if that makes sense.

glad pewter
# sudden rune Tbf I have no idea but I’d have thought so?

Yo. Just created a hardcore character on the PTS. It puts in the Endgame with the invasions, skipping the intro missions, but we are still starting from sctrach. This makes me happy as all hell. This is why I was trying to explain, but couldn't find out to do it. lmao

tame saddle
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Thats just going to be for the PTS though fyi

glad pewter
sudden rune
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Yeah that's just a PTS thing to make it easier to get into testing. And no, we DON'T want that in the live game.

glad pewter
# sudden rune Yeah that's just a PTS thing to make it easier to get into testing. And no, we D...

(I know this is a text wall, but please take the time to read becasue I think this gives a better illustration to what I am trying to say) It doesn't make sense to spend ~30 hours unlocking the map district by district in a linear fashion when the starting point could just be streamlined making each distract scaled to level 1 and then scaling with the player like how they normally do. I don't see how that is in any way compromising the hardcore experience what so ever. We're still starting from scratch and it's a new character, but the shift in focus is seasons 2.0, not the base storyline. The focus of the game has shifted far beyond the base story into seasonal content. With Seasons 2.0 still having leveling restrictions in order to progress the seasonal journey, the level initial 1-40 grind on hardcore mode needs to be recentered on the seasonal content, not the base storyline. That is the point I am trying to make. Hardcore mode was not designed with pro-longed seasonal content in mind and it shows. Keep in mind, hardcore mode was designed before seasons were even part of the game. Which then, yes it made sense then to have to start from the very start of the game every time because there wasn't any seasonal content or anything beyond the world tiers, however It needs to be updated to fit the game's current model and be focused on the new seasonal model. Each seasons in 2.0 will be 4 months long, I don't see how streamlining the starting point of a hardcore character diminishes any part of the hardcore experience when everything still remains the same except recentering how players go through the level 1-40 grind. Instead of players going through the main storyline for level 1-40, the district level requirements are removed and streamlined. There is no compromise to hardcore mode with this change. It was believed that seasonal characters were going to have a different starting point at level 1 other than starting at the very start of the game and that's is what I am suggesting the change be for Hardcore mode. Again I am not suggesting any sort of boost or shortcut, just how the initial level 1-40 grind is shifted on HC to where the focus is the seasonal content not the base storyline.

glad pewter
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To try to put this into perspective. I am on HC mode in seasons 2.0 for example. I am SHD XXX, I have 12/14 through the scout missions, level 3 of the seasonal journey and I get killed. That agent is dead in the dirt, gone, ceases to exist. When I go back into hardcore I am presented with the character creation screen, however this creation screen is in X room of the The White house. After I create my character, the character walks out of X room. This is still a new character, the character is at level 1 and all seasonal progress is lost, noting carries over from the previous character expect the SHD level and stash. Spinalizations upgrades are lost, essentially everything is lost as it is now. The key change I am suggesting is the starting point of level 1 is shifted from start of the game. Keep in mind with this shift, all main missions. side missions, collectables etc are again available to complete/obtain since this is a new character, but the forced linear approach to the story is lifted. with this change, we go into to invaded storyline as a level 1 character so the shift in focus of the level 1-40 is the seasonal content. As of now, getting to level 40 essentially requires the player to go through the story mode in order from start to finish. When at level 1 with this change, players have the freedom from the start to progress to level 40 in a more dynamic fashion, which could be projects, invaded missions, activities, etc while still respecting the level requirements of the seasonal content. Instead of having to get to X level to unlock Y district, players will have to get to X level to unlock Y of the season. As Riven mentioned, there are still level requirments in seasons 2.0 for the Seasonal Journey progression.

round mauve
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These walls of texts are starting to get a little...tall.

glad pewter
sudden rune
glad pewter
# sudden rune I’m not even engaging with them anymore. It’s like banging my head against a wal...

I now it's a lot, but It would be apricated if you could take the time to read my explanation to what I am trying to suggest for hardcore mode. The first paragraph is really all you need to read, the second is just for perspective. Then in turn tell me what you think I am trying to suggest so I know where on the same page and maybe in turn explain to me something that I am misunderstanding about what you're saying. Like I mentioned hardcore mode was designed and released before the original seasonal model was even implemented into the game and I am suggesting a small change that would update hardcore mode to fit the game's upcoming seasonal 2.0 model by recentering the starting point of HC characters while still retaining the permadeath and experience of HC mode.

sly bear
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We can discuss and argue what you want all day. At the end of the day it is not going to do anything. Unless you are discussing these things with the developers. Also if you haven’t noticed we are still in Beta so until we get pulled out of beta anything to improve HC play, I will enjoy. If you are part of a HC community it literally take 4 hours max to get your character back.

round mauve
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The only updated info we have about HC is literally just "we want to look into it". That's it. That's all.

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I guess that spawned 8 copies of War & Peace.

glad pewter
sly bear
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New players have to start the same way why would it change?

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Unless they bought the boost

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Plus what your discussing would slow down our current way of boosting which has been streamlined from what it was at 6 to 8 hours

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I’m sure my community would figure out how to run it up if your way was ever proposed

glad pewter
# sly bear New players have to start the same way why would it change?

True. My solution to this is introduce an alternate character creation that is only unlocked after hitting level 40 for the first time. Not a boost, but instead of new HC characters starting at the very start of the game, there’s an option they start at level 1 at the White House in the invaded storyline.

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Essentially translating the starting point of seasonal character to HC characters, but players still need to unlock this ability in the first place.

sly bear
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But I’m level 2 when I get to the whitehouse after that run

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I’m down for taking out the tutorials at coastal settlement 🤣

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Are you just level 1 after the run to the whitehouse on PC?

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I’m usually level 3 when I get to the theater

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And 4 after grand Washington

glad pewter
sly bear
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Ah yeah take out the those tutorials or atleast turn them off

glad pewter
# sly bear I’m down for taking out the tutorials at coastal settlement 🤣

By pass the costal mission, and intro missions so HC better fits with seasons 2.0. On HC now even with 2.0 we’ll still have to play through the base storyline to unlock each districts in order, which restricts seasonal content. I’m suggesting to streamline the districts by removing the level restrictions so we can go about the level 1-40 grind how we see fit. This also compliments the new seasonal journey level restrictions. Instead of us having to get to level X to unlock district Y, the 1-40 grind on HC is re-focused on seasons 2.0, seasonal journey requirements and not base story requirements.

glad pewter
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^^ this still retains the HC feel and intensity but updates the mode to fit 2.0 as that’s the core focus of the games future.

glad pewter
# sly bear Are you just level 1 after the run to the whitehouse on PC?

I just saw this. Essentially starting at level 1 at the WhiteHouse, but starting in the invaded campaign. I just think having to rediscover the settlements, unlock districts in a certain order, meeting the characters and doing all of the intro stuff is a drag especially with seasons 2.0 coming. Even if we unlock the first scout mission on a HC character, we have to get to like level 30 to be able to go into Foggy Bottom for those scouts missions. Update HC to fit 2.0 and we're solid as all hell.

frail portal
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Hello!

Maybe someone has tried to write to the developers about rolling back the progress in the game from the server side. Yesterday I caught a glitch in the game and after the game hung up, my character was already dead. Is it possible for developers to ask to roll back the progress on the server?

sudden rune
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Hi. Sorry to say, but it's gone. Just gotta go again, I'm afraid.

sudden rune
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Died today… just before 5x. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Looks like I have a busy evening ahead of me. 😓

glad pewter
# frail portal Hello! Maybe someone has tried to write to the developers about rolling back th...

Once your agent dies on HC, it’s gone. No matter how you died. Glitch, DC’d, crash etc.

*(Last time I played HC, my agent got caught in “Outside Playable Area” and the time was like 1.5 seconds to get out and I died because of that.

I wasn’t even out of the map. I was like in between boxes and a dumpster which I got caught on.)*

Hope we see some adjustments to HC mode for 2.0. Hurts my head how much potential HC mode has in general.

sudden rune
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I was ‘outside playable area’ yesterday and it just reset me back to the playable area. 🤷🏻‍♂️

twin gorge
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There's been cases of insta death with some areas, I dunno if they've been fixed or not

viral urchin
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What is the fastest or most efficient way to level to 40 now. Revive hive decided not to work yesterday. Would like to get my watch back ASAP.

sudden rune
viral urchin
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@sudden rune I was afraid of that answer. 👍

strange magnet
twin gorge
sly bear
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The more friends or people in your HC community on to help you boost the better

sly bear
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Solo takes me about 72 hours of game play so that’s like 4 or 5 days for me

west heath
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To get your watch back?

sudden rune
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I did it in 11h 28 mins with my fiancée boosting. That's including getting my watch back and levelling it back to max

west heath
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that’s a good time

sly bear
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With a good group of 3 we can get it done in 3 to 4 hours

sly bear
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Me boosting someone by myself takes about 4 hours to get to 29, and about an hour to get to 30 maybe less if carry is doing projects along the way, capital takes about 10 mins, Invadeds takes about an hour, carry should be 35 or 36. Takes a little longer to get to watch if they stay in DC. But if they make the run to NY, they get to 38 just by discovering safe houses which takes about 10 mins. Usually carry will have their watch after One mission and the two side missions in NY after discovering safe house. So at full watch takes about 6 to 7 hours for me just boosting someone by myself. This all depends also on the carry, if they need to take breaks or if they want to eat or look at gear that will be obsolete in 20 mins.

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All of WONY by my self boosting someone takes about an hour maybe a little less

west heath
sly bear
toxic plume
sly bear
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WAR, WHS, YSO, DFR, THE, SIK, and a few others

sudden rune
sly bear
# sudden rune Didn't realise there's so many. I'm in DDM (Don'tDieMF) discord but I'm not clan...

You are on PC and I am on Xbox. I don’t know whatPC Hardcore community is like. Or how many of you folks there are. Either way we are al in a small percentage of players on any platform because most are too scared or think it’s a waste of time. I would think PC HC would be larger since mouse and keyboard precision play adds to higher survivability. Plus it always seems like PC players accomplish most HC group events first.

sudden rune
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I might be on PC but I’m still a controller scrub 😅

sly bear
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😁

golden vessel
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Hardcore and Hunters in missions:
HC agent shd 251, SC shd 3700.

Just replayed the Schaeffer Manhunt on Coney Island using my HC agent since I wanted some spare Memento backpacks (yes, it’s a reward). Part of the mission is a hunter spawning more than halfway through the mission.

Didn’t realize this, and that was some battle. I survived. I know in SC when you die battling the hunter, you simply respawn without the hunter part of the mission.

Does anyone know if the same would have happened in HC? Or would this be perma-death? #sweatypalms

untold radish
golden vessel
sly bear
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Yes if you die you die

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Cocktails and shots at the coastal settlement

sly bear
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@fast quail you need to be 30 and done with DC before you head to NY DLC

fast quail
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My First play in HC mode, i have 2k Shd level! I not have friend in This game. I'm Brazilian player. Not speak english, Sorry in errors.

round mauve
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@sly bear @fast quail English only on the server, thanks.

fast quail
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Hahaha ok

sly bear
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Ok sorry

round mauve
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@floral ferry Hey so this chat is just for discussing the mode, you'll have more luck if you check down in #lfg-hardcore-mode

floral ferry
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dope didnt see it

spark vortex
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is the Castle settlement grey out for ya bc it is for my on my HC toon

sly bear
spark vortex
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Oh I thought you were already at watch and you came back to try to discover it

spark vortex
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yea nah not yet haha

sly bear
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In order for the castle to actually be discovered I believe everything on the east side up until Air and space must be completed

spark vortex
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ooo ok

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i beat that and nothing

sly bear
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🤔

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Maybe talk to Odessa again or something I am not sure

spark vortex
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ok bet i do it tmm ima sleepo

sly bear
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We had this issue on Xbox a few times but forgot how we resolved it

worldly loom
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Castle wasn't rebuilt until after the events of the main game + dlc so you probably have to clear at least up to Capitol in the story

twin gorge
spark vortex
sly bear
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Oh you are talking about the rebuilding of the Castle yeah you need to finish invadeds before Castle is green

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And even than it may not be green you may need to get your watch before it actually turns green and becomes a settlement because it wasn’t established until manhunts become available

static prairie
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i just want to say, though it took 5+ years, i am sooo happy for the storage access now.. blacktusk

sly bear
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It surely makes each death less painful, and make playing other content on HC much more suitable

round mauve
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@spark vortex This channel is just for discussing the mode, you're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode. GL Agent div2salute

spark vortex
brisk socket
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I recently noticed the stash space on the HC mode. Ehat a relief! Such a great addition!! Kudos to the dev team! I was wondering... Do we also loose everything on the stash if we die on HC? Dont really wanna test it out, just yet. 🤣

worldly loom
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you don't lose anything from the stash

brisk socket
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Thats even better news! Thanks @worldly loom

sly bear
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Yes optimize expertise those raid and incursion builds throw it in your stash and bam always ready to go 😆

brisk socket
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@sly bear Oh yeah! Im on it! Just gives me more incentive to run HC!

sly bear
brisk socket
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@sly bear Noted! Thanks!

sly bear
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Also great for back up your main build with what you like running when you die you have a build ready to go when you get back to watch

brisk socket
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@sly bear Great deets

sly bear
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Be very careful HC players. I am not sure what folks are experiencing on PS5 and PC but on Xbox we are being DC’d a lot in NY

spiral sparrow
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its a known issue with delta 3s happening in NY

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theyre working on a fix afaik

rugged sage
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Any news concerning the fix in NYC, thnx

round mauve
brisk socket
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I've seen HardCore players during regular Countdown runs. Is that a thing? How is it possible? Do HC characters Perma Die on Countdown? I know they don't in Descent but was wondering if Countdown worked the same...

worldly loom
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HC can get into countdown through regular matchmaking, if they die there they are really dead though so it's a risk

sly bear
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Yes the risk vs reward is worth it for us, on a good team we can get our gear back faster this way after we died and have gotten back to watch

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But we have to be careful though other players will pop gas cans and fire cans near us to watch us die, some will throw on stinger hives and drones and turrets and drop them next to us during hunter fights

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Others will help pick us up if we go down such is the life of the Hardcore player

twin gorge
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HC characters need to farm pieces just like a normal one does. It's always a risk with deltas and disconnects in CD though
But yeah there seems to be some players who don't like hardcore characters and will try to get us into trouble

sly bear
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Some people just like to watch the world burn

round mauve
dense crow
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Im pretty new to it all.. is hardcore mode... like hardcode minecraft 😭 if you die everything's gone forever.

round mauve
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Yep!

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You die, you go back to the login screen.

untold cipher
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hello, do we lose our hardcore character if we die in descent?

vale walrus
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doesn't apply in other gamemodes

untold cipher
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ok nice, thx 🙂

vale walrus
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note the softcore and hardcore stashes are not the same

icy bay
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What happens when you die in the descent in hardcore?

sudden rune
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Nothing. It's essentially virtual reality. It's the only safe death for HC.

icy bay
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Where is a good place to farm equipment and weapons at lvl 4?

worldly loom
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don't bother farming at that level, just run with whatever you can find and keep pushing up. You could learn the locations of a few weapon/armor crates in the open world and check them once per day I suppose

untold cipher
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hello, i wanted to know if in hardcore mode the dark zones are private? i've spent several days there and i've never met another player.

worldly loom
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it's worth being aware that your timeout in DZ is 30s (rather than 2s elsewhere in the game) so if you crash or disconnect while in the DZ you're quite likely to end up dead, which is why most HC players steer clear unless they're in a group.

untold cipher
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ok thx 🙂

worldly loom
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oh, and of course there are some HC players out there who enjoy the opportunity to murder others knowing how much higher the cost is for them

untold cipher
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i don't go to hardcore dz to kill other players. i go there to loot exotics and components. i was just asking because i've never met anyone there.

round mauve
manic horizon
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i found a bug if your try to throw rev hive and down during it(Aiming), it will not drop (hardcore)

round mauve
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@solar dock No crossplay for div1 or div2.

orchid kite
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Does sc share library and expertise with hc?

sudden rune
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Yes

sly bear
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Yes

orchid kite
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Cheers fellas 👍🏼

fossil sparrow
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Hello. I created a Hard Core toon today, took it all the way to 40 in DC. I have done all my missions and strongholds on story, and I cannot get the gate house mission to proc so I can do tidal basin. All my missions are done and there's nothing outstanding in my progression to do except manning and coney island, which I cannot do withut tidal being done first. Any thoughts on what I can do to progress?

sly bear
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🤔

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I have never seen one get to 40 or watch before Tidal basin before that’s a lot of grinding

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@fossil sparrow I think you are the first person I know that’s done that. Most of us HCs want our watches back as soon as possible and so we normally do Tidal around 34 or 36

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Don’t know why you couldn’t get your watch before Tidal though must be something buggy, have you tried logging all the way out and shutting down the game and coming back in?

fossil sparrow
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yes... its so weird. must be a bug.

grave escarp
# fossil sparrow Hello. I created a Hard Core toon today, took it all the way to 40 in DC. I ha...

hey hey i just completed that part yesterday. I unlocked the gate house mission by finishing the strong holds first. each strong hold much be invaded by black tusk first. i did DUA first. then Roosevelt. then Capitol. each time i completed an invaded strong hold there was a timer that counted down. which then would restart my map which unlocked the next invaded strong hold. once i completed the strong holds the gate house mission popped up. once I completed the mission i was able to then move on to tidal basin. by the time i completed these missions i was on level 36. i hope that helps

sly bear
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Ah yes that’s the right answer sorry I should have suggested what Cosmic said, I just assumed you did the 3 invadeds already my apologies

sudden rune
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@fossil sparrow Did you complete them on someone else's map, or your own?

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main missions were completed on another level 40 map. I found the issue was when on another map, the invaded missions must be done on my own map where I am leader. Once I reran the strongholds on my own map as leader, the gatehouse mission proc'd. TY all for the chat about it tho.

twin gorge
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Capitol + invaded strongholds have to be done on sheep map to progress

brittle magnet
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Was my message deleted?

round mauve
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If it was an LFG: yes.

brittle magnet
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Yeah I caught a clue and realized I posted In the wrong channel

grave escarp
untold coral
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Going to start a new game on Hardcore Mode. Anyone wanna give me any tips?

warm otter
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even if you do know the spawns play so because you can get ganked pretty easily

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also crusader or bulwark as second skill is your friend. on my hc runs i usually bulwark till i can get a decent weapon to use with crusader. Skill builds are end game for hc and you shouldn’t pay any sort of attention to them

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unbreakable on the chest as soon as you can get it is what you want

worldly loom
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You can use skill builds if you want o know plenty of HC players that utilize skill builds

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I run all content so I run multiple builds when I get to watch

past prawn
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The last mission liberty island on hard character . Should I have a team to help me ?

worldly loom
# past prawn The last mission liberty island on hard character . Should I have a team to help...

You can do it solo, easier now you can have your watch and a proper build before starting it. The Keener fight can be a bit risky due to the shock and the hacking, but there are some handy tricks to know:
You can protect yourself from the shock with the Faraday Field ability from technician spec, of you're within a short range of one of your deployed skills.

His hacking pulse is an unusual one that can hack skills still on your backpack and change their variant - eg if you have a revive hive on your backpack, his hack will turn it into a stinger hive and drop it at your feet, which can be lethal if he then shocks you immediately after.
For this reason it's recommended that you use remote pulse to proc Faraday, since it has no harmful variant, and have the other skill set to shield or something similar that can't be used against you.
Ideally of course you use the shock ammo from the marauder arena to stop him doing a pulse at all.

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Other than that just use shock ammo, Scorpio or elmo to stunlock him and burn him down as quickly as possible.
You can also oxi kill him before he even jumps down, if you have the build, but that's something you'd probably want to practice on SC before trying on HC

twin gorge
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Best bet is get shock ammo from the marauder area on a shotgun and blast Keener with that ammo
You don't want to drag the Keener fight since he'll hack your skills at some point, if you have a reviver hive it'll become a stinger hive that can kill you once he shocks you

solar dock
past prawn
crimson quest
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Just realised there’s a chat for Hardcore mode

I just finished the main story in 15hrs 4mins 😅

Going to try getting Keener too

sage tendon
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Division

crimson quest
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Update: managed to get Keener too, total time 23hrs 40mins

He almost got me 😅

noble pecan
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Dying in descent goes as a permadeath? Nevermind, found it here.

ancient roost
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anyone got a link to the ddmf server please?

round mauve
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@ancient roost ddmf server?

ancient roost
round mauve
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If the link is dead and you can't find another one via the "discover" feature on discord, there's a decent chance that it's just gone.

ancient roost
twin gorge
ancient roost
twin gorge
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Sent

sly bear
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Is it for all platforms or just PC?

worldly loom
sly bear
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Wish cross platform play was a thing Div 2. Would be awesome to play with other HCs

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Very limited on Xbox hard to find folks to do a 8 person HC raid

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I seen so many videos of PC and PS HCs raiding

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We have a team that will do it every now again

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Wish Devs gave us more commendations for accomplishing harder content on HC

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Or even a HC leaderboard

round mauve
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Hardcore is confirmed to be getting "a look at" over the next Season or so, but it did start out as a passion project, so don't expect a full-blown game mode.

sly bear
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Yeah I get that. Just a pipe dream

solar acorn
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How often do you lose your hardcore toon to a Delta-3? It's really boring

lethal gull
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@solar acorn once in 4 years, to outcast rushers is a different story...

polar wave
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Guys i created my first hardcore yesterday, just for the commendations, idk if ill enjoy it.. but i can play with other non hardcore friends?

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Or only with other hardcores? Or even alone?

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And whats the best way to lv up xp on a hardcore? Just want finish tidal, capitol n dark hours faster as possible

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And harcore have other cosmetic rewards or only that yolo hat?

worldly loom
polar wave
worldly loom
polar wave
worldly loom
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Just hit 40. Bear in mind you won't get your SC shd levels though, HC tracks separately.

alpine tiger
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Could anyone recommend me a System Corruption build? PvE

quick forum
alpine tiger
worldly loom
sly bear
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You can’t play with other core players otherwise

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There’s no major differences between core and HC. Yes we have our own servers for open world, incursions and DZ but other than that it’s exactly the same.

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Besides from the one life thing

sly bear
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Oh and no conflict but you can try to pvp in DZ. It’s just frowned upon on HC by most HC players and if most of us know you do it we probably won’t play with you atleast my community of 100+players won’t

sly bear
zinc lion
sly bear
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No

sudden rune
sly bear
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You don’t necessarily need to do that on HC to get those outfits

sudden rune
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Hardcore Capitol Merit and Hardcore Tidal Basin Merit Commendation patches

sly bear
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I have done them on HC but never recieved those

calm bronze
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Can I just get my clan to invite me on my HC from their normal characters for a raid?

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Just tried to invite a non HC but said mismatch

sudden rune
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Hardcores can ONLY match with non-HC on Countdown

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Everything else must be all-HC

sly bear
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Why is everyone saying they can’t join core raids with their HCs?

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Most people on Xbox got their HC DH patch from core raids

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Heck I got my HC DH patch when I was WT5

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Playing with other core agents

twin gorge
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You can play HC with SC in raids but whether or not intended is another question

sly bear
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I honestly enjoy a full HC raid group. Everyone has skin in the game so to say. My group say all the time it would be amazing if we had crossplay because I have seen PC and PS players run full HC raids all the time, we on Xbox have only run full 8 HC raids like a handful of times

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Dark hours doesn’t seem to difficult to find a good HC team to run but IH seems to be a harder find

sly bear
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Would be kinda cool if all the HCs across the platforms could run together and just have bigger pool of HCs willing and wanting to do raids and incursions

upper sparrow
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Hey got a question, in the quest with time limits or objectives, if you fail the objective or fail to me the time limit, does that count as a death and ends your run or no

sly bear
twin gorge
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Yeah it's just objective failed in missions afaik, but stuff like incursion/raid mechanics not done in time are permadeath

sly bear
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Failing to take down the cannon at morozova only Manny dies, failing the pressure timer on Williams you die, failing to shoot rockets at the cannon in fiestner only the control guy dies

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Countdown it just takes you to a stat screen if your are in combat you more than likely die, if you pay attention to the timer and move out of combat you will be ok

sly bear
twin gorge
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Razorback missile launch, Wright
in PL are also permadeath
Yeah CD I would be concerned about the crate crash but normally you don't make it outside but I've crashed with a HC char in CD (thankfully alive) due to the lab crate interaction

sly bear
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Yeah lab is the worst but sometimes reactor is bad too

sly bear
sly bear
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Looks like nothing new for the Hardcore community next season. However I do like the new modifiers coming out will make for a fun Hardcore run.

upper sparrow
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All tho I'm the only one who does the hardcore

round mauve
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@loud berry This channel is just for discussing the Hardcore mode, but even so: Hardcore is the perma-death mode of div2, not a "hardcore" playstyle.

sly bear
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It’s not a bug, HC and core players share Raids and Countdowns

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If we had our own servers for both I don’t think Xbox HC players would almost never be able to do countdowns or raids

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Yeah I saw what they said but I been playing Hardcore mode since it’s came out and when countdown dropped we were able to join it with other core players. And we have always been able to join raids with core players

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I think it would be great if HCs had our own servers for both, but I feel that not that many would do either. I like it because we all have skin in the game, and don’t have to worry about a core players trying to kill as by blowing gas cans next to us

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No, HC players have to start from the coastal settlements everytime we die

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The process is a lot faster now that we can go from 30 to 40 without having to tier up the world

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No

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If you are down down you are dead it goes straight to a death screen and out to the title screen

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If you are on your knees crawling you can be picked up

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No problem

sly bear
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Looks like I am talking to myself

summer viper
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If I do the Anomalous Missing by the Theater Settlement, can I die and lose my HC character?

worldly loom
summer viper
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Thanks

sly bear
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Oops I see kettle already responded, but I have gotten killed by him once or twice. But I haven’t actually been killed by him in quite awhile

summer viper
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Thanks

twin gorge
gleaming pulsar
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Does Expertise transfer across hardcore agents or is expertise per agent? I'd like to start a hardcore pistol only agent but want to know of there are any benefits to my main hardcore character

worldly loom
gleaming pulsar
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Thank you. So if I'm understanding correctly, there are ten proficiency levels before expertise is taken into account. So I could, for instance, achieve level ten proficiency on every pistol before even thinking about material risk. And this proficiency is only tied to hardcore mode, not softcore mode?

sly bear
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No it’s tied to both core and HC. What ever you make proficient it’s proficient across al characters

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Expertise is only shared with skills. Weapons and gear that you expertise is only good for that particular gear or weapon

limber seal
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I feel like making a new account full of HC characters

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I already have the acc

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But i havent booted up Div or Div 2 on it yet

round mauve
sly bear
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No HC on Div1

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There is survival and that’s amazing

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You want to have 1 core character

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But it’s your game, you paid for it, play how you want

limber seal
sly bear
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Ah

lean sinew
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how does the dark zone work in hardcore?

gleaming pulsar
sly bear
uncut juniper
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Hello

worldly loom
twilit swift
sudden rune
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The chance is never zero.

twilit swift
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Yeah, but the biggest problem in hardcore n DZ is some dumbass who killing you „just for fun” 🤬

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So would be nice to find some people to play together 😉

sudden rune
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Yeah I hear you. I've never set foot in the DZ on HC. There's nothing in there worth the risk for me.

twilit swift
sudden rune
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I'd suggest only taking the bare minimum of gear, and probably have an unoptimised set you wouldn't care to lose...

sly bear
summer viper
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Can a HC go to New York? Pilot just shows the No Bost for HC.
I'm Lvl 40 and have completed DC and bumped up to Normal.

sly bear
summer viper
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I completed the story mode. So i have to clear out all the invaded strongholds, the I can hit NYC?

sly bear
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And tidal basin yes

summer viper
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Cool beans, thanks.

sly bear
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Np

summer viper
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Just got the crap scared out of me. Doing an HC bounty in NYC and got the Delta error and dc'd. Logged back in and was at the CP. I'm done for the night.

crimson quest
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New Hardcore Mode PB

Hardcored main story & Keener in New York in 22hrs 37mins 😅

crimson quest
sudden rune
crimson quest
abstract marten
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Can someone please help me? I'm playing the summit on floor hundred its sat at legendary. I'm playing on a steam deck. And I don't know how to invite people ?

sly bear
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On HC?

sage tendon
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I did a good time running the whole story solo on hardcore mode, hardly play anymore

polar wave
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Best way to lv up a hardcore to 40?

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Had one few months ago, and now im trying to get all commendations

sly bear
polar wave
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And ty for answer and share knowledge with me

sly bear
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Solo is just take your time and enjoy it make sure you level up your character and gear to stay 1 or two levels higher than the next area of the map. After you complete grand Washington and Jefferson trade center ensure you grab your two skills. Since expertise shared across all characters I usually choose drone and turrets because my 27 drones and turret will kill about everything. Play tactically and always be cautious of your surrounding . Don’t let them flank you. Clear the map and liberate each section as you go. Save your side missions for the end. Sell your guns and keep the low level gear to turn in to your projects. Wait until you are close to 38 or 39 to turn them in to get to 40. I can get to 40 before I get to invaded tier map. This way I can farm for a build before I get to tidal. Takes about 22 hours of game play to go solo.

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Don’t forget to put shd into your perks as you are running up at the quarter master.

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In a team the fastest way is have few friends who are already at watch. Two or three would be great. It take about 2 to 3 hours. If everyone is helping you out. Watches will stay on their map as they do hard or higher missions with directives and they will simply call you in when they get to right before the boss. Story with 5 directives also is not bad xp on missions if they aren’t comfortable in their builds or higher level content. Remember for one of them to get you a map so you can fast travel to all the safe houses so you don’t have to run to them. While they are doing the missions and you are waiting for them to get to the bosses. Make sure you have to date gear to your level and go do theater and campus projects or liberation projects. To help the level up process faster. Once again try to save your projects turn in closer the level you are trying to get either 30 for capital or 38-39 for 40. Don’t talk to NPCs or interact on watches map unless you are brought to get credit for open world activities xp.

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If everything goes right you should be at 36 to 37 when all the story mode DC missions and invaded tiers are complete.

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You can turn in your projects than and get you to 38-39

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Or grind to get the next level and get to 40 with your projects the later you wait to turn in projects the more they are worth

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Make sure at 30 you pick your specialization

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Make sure that if the watches are helping you they take a map or jump in with you on Capital and tidal basin so your world can progress

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Invadeds must be done on your map after capital

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Each watch can take a map from you and run them separately

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Simultaneously

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On Invaded tiers, You must complete DUA before doing Roosevelt, and Roosevelt before Capital.

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Before running out at Capital make sure they give you group lead to open the gate house side mission

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To open up tidal

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You can stay in DC to get your watch or go to NY

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If you are short on your levels running to Haven will give you a level and discovering the 4 safe houses will also give you a level.

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This process with watches helping you takes about 3 hours max.

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Hope this helps

polar wave
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I went to the hospital.. only seeing your mesages rn tysm!

polar wave
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Guys! Can i play descent with hardcore? I can die in descent? Or need to leave by myself? The blueprints are shared?

untold radish
polar wave
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Any1 here who play hardcore on ps want be my friend??

polar wave
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Lost my hardcore…

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Lv30.. bro

polar wave
sly bear
polar wave
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Feeling terrible.. the void is crazy

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Was so close.. lost in a secondary mission

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The enemies was shoting me when i was crawling

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So reviver hive and nothing is the same thing

twilit swift
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Does anybody face an issue with collectibles in HC after season 3 release? I’m not able to see them all 😕

worldly loom
twilit swift
round mauve
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@polar wave Sorry, no discussion of exploits.

chilly haven
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I'm on PS. Just started playing #2. What game modes are your favs?

polar wave
round mauve
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Using a glitch in the game, in order to cheat your way through a Raid is an exploit.

bold quarry
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Pardon me folks, I have some questions that may better my gameplay. Firstly; can real-life spec-ops tact. be applied in-game? If so, could someone kindly print me in the direction of a video or manuscript, etc..?

round mauve
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@bold quarry What exactly are you trying to do?

sudden rune
round mauve
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Let's let the person explain before we assume.

worldly loom
bold quarry
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@round mauve thank you for responding; I am testing the bounds of what I can do, how the A.I. react to what im doing. @sudden rune hey, Karen.. the grown folks are talking.

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@round mauve I am fan of the franchise, and an even more so for Mr. Clancy’s work. I am very curious to know if real-life spec-ops tact would work in this game. I am also wanting to master my craft. I believe that hardcore mode is the way the game is meant too be played.

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RIP Mr. Clancy.

sudden rune
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Tom Clancy had NOTHING to do with The Division. Ubi just own the right to stick his name on it.

This is a looter shooter, not a tactical shooter.

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You're probably better off with Ghost Recon if you want a Ubisoft Clancy game that's a bit more realistic.

bold quarry
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If it weren’t tactical then why does it prompt one to observe the area before engaging

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And Tom Clancy inspired the works of this game, so he in fact does have something to do with this game.

worldly loom
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It's tactical up to a point but when you get to bullet sponge enemies I imagine irl tactics will fall off a bit. Also the random patrols emerging from an unexpected manhole or box truck. Feel free to roleplay it however you like though.

bold quarry
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@worldly loom this person gets it💯

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@worldly loom i notice this also. Yet, for the experience that I’ve had.. tactics stick for me(I do like to role play). Observing the way the AI processes information is very intriguing. As of now I am level 32||16 HC
There was a subtle change when I started from a fresh permadeth. The AI switched units tactics and hit me with a stun move as I was sweeping my way to the White House level 1. I was taken aback because I thought I was tripin’. That added to my questions and so I came to this community for answers. So far I am grateful for the information taught to me by yall.

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I like to immerse myself in the division’s universe. It’s something of an acute obsession.

sly bear
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There’s a lot to the game and each build and guns are utilized differently

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If you get things on your HC and lose it you have to refarm for it again and hope one of your friends will drop it for you

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Because now it is not in your loot pool until the season is over

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As for tactics yes as a 6 year HC player you need to be aware of your surroundings at all times. The higher your difficulty in the map the smarter the AI enemies are and will out flank you and kill you

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The girl at the coastal settlement said it right don’t stay in one place to long

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Your builds and play style will make or break how you play

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From coastal settlement to 40 though you have to play tactical

bold quarry
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Softcore 40||2

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@sly bear i 100% agree here. That is the information I seek; tactics. I thought maybe some real-life tactics would help me to refine my skills and master this mode before the next game drops. I survived 12 hours my first time back to HC, although trying to play with folks that play this mode is frustrating when they play like they are in softcore. How I survived solo was, I took my time at a very very very slow calculated pace, avoiding unnecessary battles. PubEx’s I’ve had to avoid a few. I found myself using alley ways I have not ever used before.. you get what im saying.. it change my entire gameplay

sly bear
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Once you get to watch the tactics go out the window kind of because now you work with builds and depending on builds people can face tank and rush or play tactically

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It’s all build dependent and game mechanics after that

bold quarry
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@sly bear thank you bruv👍🏾

vast igloo
round mauve
narrow elk
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I'm making good progress, at level 26, and was wondering if I will be capped at 30 or just keep getting levels

sudden rune
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40 is the 'cap'. At that point you unlock the SHD watch which can technically level up infinitely, but stops giving any benefit past 2000.

alpine sigil
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hi, sorry to ask this question which is probably stupid but, what hardcore mode? Just saw that channel and I never heard of a hardcore mode in division 2

twin gorge
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Your character is permanently lost if you die

round mauve
round mauve
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@remote ore You're looking for #lfg-hardcore-mode (when it comes back online, of course).
GL Agent div2salute

narrow elk
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The only thing scarier than bumping into a hunter is a chainsaw chunga patrol spawning on top of you 👀

crimson quest
crimson quest
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lol did I kill chat with that? 🤣

Was more hoping to hear of ppl at similar levels that I could co-op with 🤷‍♂️🤣

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Oh also!!

I keep getting the agent needs backup alert, but when I look at the map I can’t see it? (Look within seconds of hearing)

Is it a glitch that requests from non-HC are heard but not available?

sudden rune
crimson quest
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Seems so unfortunately, was hoping for a decent HC scene when I saw this channel 🥲

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Only way I play Division 2 now, got bored & made a HC character as a “quick game” but the fear of dying gives a lil adrenaline rush when things get hairy which normal doesn’t so can’t go back lol

crimson quest
sudden rune
crimson quest
viral urchin
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@sudden rune if you know of any discords or clans on PS post please or dm me.

crimson quest
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I’m PC but ditto

round mauve
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Yeah, this channel is just for chatting about the mode, #lfg-hardcore-mode would be your best bet for all things "find a person/group".

crimson quest
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Leg stands for? “ feel dumb asking”

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F-ing autocorrect “LFG”

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Also looks dead 🤷‍♂️

narrow elk
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Dumb question but the reviver hive works the same way as in non-hardcore?

velvet solar
viral urchin
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@narrow elk lol when it wants to, I’ve had it deployed and then stop halfway through. The enemies have also shot it out while it was reviving me, but I honestly can’t remember if they can do that in normal mode.

narrow elk
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Oh, that doesn't sound good

viral urchin
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@narrow elk nonetheless don’t leave home without it

sly bear
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I’m away from my Xbox. Not much to say when we are all different consoles. I try to ask questions but sometimes it may not be the same on other consoles

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Not much else to talk about

round mauve
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Hardcore mode was a passion project for IIRC like, 1 dev, so it's in a perma-beta state.
It'll likely never be truly "finished", so just play it if you find it fun, but don't expect a 1.0 release.

twin gorge
high bobcat
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is HC worth it, kinda bored with the game atm]

sudden rune
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It definitely adds danger to everything, which can make the game far more interesting.

sly bear
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Or find out how much you die 🤣

slow panther
# high bobcat is HC worth it, kinda bored with the game atm]

HC bring different dynamics to the game. If you are getting bored with SC game play, I'll highly recommend you give it a try.. I started playing HC four months ago for fulfilling my HC accommodation requirement.. Since then, I never looked back and my play strictly limits to HC play unless I am muling for resource reasons.

high bobcat