td2-raid-discussions

[teal needle]

Hmm and I think the 8 ironworks is bosses only

That sucks

[tender hollow]

Well resets are Tuesdays I think

[teal needle]

I’ll run it again tonight on the low chances that I happen to get the 8 I need

Yeah but now I’ll have to wait another week to start the project for the pistol

Right?

[tender hollow]

I forget whether the exotic components drop on a fresh week or just when you get the project available to you

[teal needle]

I think they drop on a fresh week at the beginning

[tender hollow]

I think you're right it's on a fresh week. So yeah you'll have to wait a week

[teal needle]

That sucks

I guess I’ll do the raid tonight for the chest and a raid tomorrow for the chest and pieces again

And then wait a week

[tender hollow]

You can get the Chest/Bags from the normal loot pool now

FI and FB

[teal needle]

No I mean the loot chests at the end

[tender hollow]

Ohhh okay gotcha

[teal needle]

I have everything completed except for the 8 ironworks

And then it gives me the 40 back which I can put into the other project which then gives me the final project

[tender hollow]

Right yeah

Now that I think about it, that's a real pain in the ass XD luckily you don't need to repeat the entire process once you finish it on your main character

[lean wigeon]

hi all. my buddy and i just picked up the game in the last couple of weeks and hit 30. can we raid right away?

[long sky]

the only raid avalible is dark hours

[lean wigeon]

is dark hours available just after beating main game and black tusk taking over?

[long sky]

yes its just lvl 30 only

[lean wigeon]

i googled how to access it and it says i need to talk to a pilot at the white house. is that right?

[long sky]

yup

[lean wigeon]

thx

[long sky]

its gonna be hard to get a lvl 30 dh raid going

most are at lvl 40

[lean wigeon]

i need expansion to get 40, right?

[long sky]

yes sir

[lean wigeon]

well if we can't raid without it then that's prob enough incentive. thx for info,

[long sky]

you can still do lvl 30

[lean wigeon]

ya i guess i meant "can't" as in it's not as practical/available

[lean wigeon]

pilot only shows pentco fairview power plant (countdown) & kenly college (expedition). am i in the right spot?

[long sky]

did you finish wt5

[lean wigeon]

nope. just got to wt2 i think. does that i mean i need wt5?

[long sky]

yes

[lean wigeon]

ah ok. thx again. a bit of grinding then.

[oblique niche]

Weird, I completed dh a few times and never got any blueprints.

Also on normal difficulty*

[hot jolt]

Have you already collected all of them then?

I know that that's when they stop appearing

[oblique niche]

No, all of them are locked for me when I go to the crafting menu

[hot jolt]

Weird

[oblique niche]

Indeed -_-

Can I see somewhere how many times I completed a raid?

[long sky]

The should have dropped if you do them on normal dh and ih you get the quest which gives you the blueprints at the end

[hot jolt]

Progression > Leaderboard > DH/IH > Number of clears (Level 40)

This is off the top of my head, so I might've missed a step or two

[tender hollow]

The # completions is just how many times you have killed the last boss

[oblique niche]

I found it. Number of completed raids for DH on normal difficulty is 6. which makes it even more confusing that i didnt get any blueprint. (i got everything from IH raid so it shouldnt be a general bug)

[long sky]

Just keep running it they will drop eventually. I normally run both once a week and again if someone needs help or bored

You've got those that have a hard time getting the EB you might have the hard time getting blueprints

[oblique niche]

nice, i may hit u up for dh then

im guessing u ve run it alrdy this week or

[long sky]

No not till Saturday gotta work 3-1130

T-f

[oblique niche]

great. might come on then. which country do u live in?

[coral raven]

#lfg-raid-pc is the channel you want, not this one

[sick fox]

I've never done a raid but eventually I want to. What kind of sort of thresholds should I be looking to cross on my character before I can deem it raid ready? I realize there are numerous builds to play but I'm speaking more in general. Is there somewhere I should shoot for before trying to raid?

[vapid briar]

There's no real threshold for when someone is actually ready to take part in a raid. However, to make it easier for you and the rest of the team, you wanna have a decent DPS build ready with around 50% crit chance and 150%ish crit damage. On your first run, you'll most likely end up on Add duty, so you wanna make sure you're actually able to kill stuff.

[sick fox]

Thanks for the info homie

[sacred drum]

Are DH and IH raids included in the base game? Haven't played the game for years

And also, do ppl here play raids with gear score above 1000?

[hot jolt]

gear score only goes up to 515, so unless you're doing something real sketchy, there's no way you'd be able to surpass that lmao

[sacred drum]

i thought gear score is unlimited only if you have expansion

[hot jolt]

those are shd levels, gear score gets abandoned at level 40 endgame

[sacred drum]

so eventually all ppl here playing raids only have like about 515 gear score?

and what r SHD levels?

[hot jolt]

those fancy numbers that you get after completing wony (the expansion)

[hot jolt]

and no, only people that either don't have wony or haven't done it yet are capped at gear score 515

[sacred drum]

i see

[swift peak]

Technically gear score does continue to raise (I think most endgame players have about 900) but it's irrelevant and not easy to find (doesn't show on items themselves)

[tender hollow]

I recommend getting the WONY expansion when its on special, which is very often. Its worth it.

[potent jay]

SHD levels are your level beyond 40 after finishing WONY.
They give you bonus stats with reaching their max at SHD level 999.
Lvl 1000+ only give mats...

[sacred drum]

I see, thanks

[long sky]

Afternoon kettle and Wyvern

[hot jolt]

Sup Saph

[swift peak]

hey saph

[dry thunder]

i did the raid after reset but i didnt get any of the ironworks base materials

im not sure where they come from bc i also opened the chest and didnt receive them

[scenic drum]

i have a question how can i get the nemesis? so far i been trying to get the bolt but i read that the islands need to be invaded? so do i have to wait for them to be invaded to get the part?

[teal needle]

Comes from killing the 4 bosses

Each boss drops 8 materials

[tender hollow]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was another raid bug. Progression seems to be fucked up in multiple ways, especially if you start a raid but not complete it

2 of my keys didn't reset from IH this week either so

Which makes absolutely 0 sense

[teal needle]

Keys don’t reset

[granite schooner]

if u havin problems with key boxes being open when u do IH, create raid on u own map an RESET progression then leave raid. this should fix open key boxes

[long sky]

@scenic drum youtube has a video showing what must be done in what order

[faint adder]

Hey all, had a few questions regarding getting started w/ raids:

• Which raid should I do first? (I'm comfortable with the concept of raid mechanics, coming from destiny 2 and ff14)
• What kind of builds should I get prepped before joining a group?
• What kind of time commitment am I looking at? (Experience in d2 and ff14 lead me to between 30 minutes and a few hours)

[gaunt thistle]

• dark hours is a great way to learn and start as theres not much mechanics to it, you will just need a classic red dps build (coyotes, 3pc providence, 1 groupo, 1 ceska), DH can take 20mins -40 on average depending on team experience. Iron Horse is around 40mins-1.5hours

[faint adder]

ty!

Heartbreaker not viable for raids?

[true storm]

it could be but not preferd cause a normal dps is sometimes better at some parts but heartbreaker is fine

i just use a normal dps build

[fresh helm]

How can I get a group together for a raid? I have never tried a raid, because TBH everyone I have met when trying to learn have been kinda jerks- Anyone just starting have anywhere to go?

[gleaming grotto]

Joining an active clan usually helps, otherwise, if you wanna stay solo overall, then I'd suggest hitting up youtube to see videos of the raids, including vids that show from different player/role perspectives. Then just get picked up in the LFG raid channel and hopefully have fun.

[fresh helm]

Thank you D.e.v.i.a.n.t

[elder sedge]

How do i do valves on ih boss 3?

I heard the click but they weren't set

[waxen rain]

they have a small delay from when they are set to the click sound

if you just spam rotate them the click will sound after you already passed it

you need to slow down when you are close to setting them

[feral plank]

@elder sedge Check your DM's, sent you a link to a video that shows exactly how to do that task.

[charred reef]

yo what does RV mean

[muted horizon]

This Server has 2 different type of voice channels.
RV = Raid Voice.
GV = Group Voice.

[charred reef]

ahh i see

[mighty shell]

[turbid violet]

I'm trying to do the Iron Horse Raid

Anybody raiding 2day

[swift peak]

#lfg-raid-console

[bleak eagle]

Looking for people for a fresh raid anyone interested?

[swift peak]

literally one post above yours, dude

[long sky]

afternoon Kettle

[swift peak]

Hey saph

[mossy mist]

Anyone know when the raid weekly resets? Looking to get the final materials needed for the projects 🤔

[swift peak]

Tuesday, same time as the weekly projects, invasion, etc

[mossy mist]

Thanks 👍 Im assuming if i've already gotten the project materials already this week, they'll also reset this Tuesday, or are they available every raid?

[desert gazelle]

do i need to wait for reset for the last project of the regulus? i did the raid this week, got the materials and finished the projects, got the new project for the weapon parts. do i need to wait for reset to get them?

[long sky]

@desert gazelle yes you do just wait 3 days

Reset on Tuesday

[desert gazelle]

thank you

[ivory rampart]

Did anyone ever get regulus as a drop from raid boss ? I think raid bosses dropping raid exclusives is a lie

[astral tundra]

Yea I seen somebody get a Regulus drop from Morozova

[hot jolt]

same here

[long sky]

i have but just do the projects and youll have it

Hey Wyvern

[hot jolt]

sup saph

[long sky]

had a wierd RNG raid day

dropped 2 ravenous and 2 eagle bearers

[hot jolt]

that's insane luck

i have yet to drop another eb, it's been ages

[long sky]

yup 1 st boss and box

for eb and fiser and lastbox in IH

[sick fox]

How are raid teams typically built? My friend and I both have skill builds. Are 2 skill builds good or nah?

[tawdry island]

Nah😀 Just start with a basic red DPS build. 50 CHC, 150+ CHD.

[ripe urchin]

Skill builds can still do good in raids as support roles, one of you could run disrupt and either oxidizer or the yellow hive and the other could run armor repair and reviver hive

Survivability is moreso the goal for people running skill builds in raids so try running skills that help teammates do better in such

[regal ferry]

Heyho, got two quick questions: where do i get the Ravonous? Is it iron horse i dont remember^^ And how hard is it to get?

[warm wren]

Ravenous is the exotic double barreled rifle acquired from the Iron Horse raid with what is suspected to be a 10% chance from the final box, after you kill the final boss and have all the keys.

The chance of you getting the exotic does increase if you have multiple people who have already obtained the ravenous with you in your raid party, but thats because they can share it with you.

[regal ferry]

Uff, damn. are ppl still farming for it? like is there a raid group i can hit up to farm with?

[dusk quarry]

How many armour cores would count as survivability?

[regal ferry]

ive never done iron horse

[warm wren]

Check down in #lfg-raid-pc and look for anyone teaching new raiders, or just start one yourself when you have a half decent raid build (Red DPS in the spreadsheet pinned in the #td2-build-advice channel works wonders). Read/watch a guide on how to do it and just try it out.

[regal ferry]

thanks 🙂

[warm wren]

o7

[long sky]

Morning Aspect

[brave lodge]

compared to dark hours, how hard is iron horsE?

[long sky]

More mechanics

If it's your 1st time run a strong DPSbuild

[cursive hound]

anyone know the raid reset timer?

[signal basin]

Tuesday

[tender hollow]

imo one or 2 blue cores doesn't help that much. You will just die in 0.6 seconds instead of 0.5 seconds if your facetanking ads. Using unbreakable on your chest I feel is the better option and/or using cover and shooting from cover

[tender hollow]

Depends on the survivability you need for the thing you're doing

So 0 to 6 take your pick

Pretty sure play style is the biggest factor here

[icy hull]

6 blue cores dies nearly as fast as 0 cores. Shield and defensive synergizes is what makes you tanky, not armor by it's self.

At least for heroic +

[muted horizon]

IMO - I run HB 3 core blue with 3 red core (you reroll one hb with a red secondary to weapon dmg) - then run Ceska bp with vigilance or momento if you have it, with fox prayer knees… kingbreaker with laser(tech) and sader shield/revive hive… you’ll have 1.5mil armor before stacks, about 2.9 with stacks on hb and more with momento tokens. In raid DH I was able to keep about 3-5 momento tokens up with 75-100% stacks on hb… made me very Tanky dps that still hit 1.2mil a shot on armored mobs

[obtuse snow]

Can level 30s and 40s do the raids together? A this week in the division article from 2020 says yes but just want to see if anyone has done it that way before.

Got a group that is getting into the game and some are cool with getting warlords others want to wait for a bit till they clear all the level 30 stuff first, just don't want to screw over the level 30s and have to separate the groups between expansion owners and not expansion owners

[dim wharf]

You can, but the 30s will be a hard carry

[obtuse snow]

How hard we talking about? Like hard as my fit or like doable with effort

Basically is it just a hard carry because it's easier for the 40s or is it genuinely like the 30s cannot contribute at all

[dim wharf]

The raids aren't that hard for experienced and well geared players, but considering it sounds like you'd all be new, it would be pretty tough

Fwiw, the expansion is 100% worth it if your enjoying the game

And it's very often on sale for cheap

[hearty grail]

Are the raids and raid LFG just for the elitist few, or can someone who has never completed a raid before get into a raid group to be able to do them? I've been playing for quite a while (level 1424) but have never been able to get more than 2 people to do anything and me and my buddy would both like to do the raids if we can find a group willing to show us through them.

[dim wharf]

Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss. Most people have no issues walking people through for the first time as long as your upfront about it. Ideally you'd have a dps build ready to go with +50 chc and +150 chd

[hearty grail]

I have builds which should be good enough I'd have thought. I solo Heroic content without any issues. Have completed all Legendary Strongholds, so has my friend. It's just getting the 6 other people to do a Raid which has been problematic, hence joining this Discord server to try and Raid. If people are willing to help, then that's great. I had just seen a fair few KWTD requirement earlier on in the LFG, as well as doing a Discovery and getting treated like garbage in Discovery mode.

[dim wharf]

Discovery mode is just proof that massive made the right decision by not having matchmaking for the actual raid lol

It's awful

[hearty grail]

Tell me about it. Discovery says to me that it's where people who try to learn the raid (after watching a video or two) before attempting it proper. Thanks, hopefully we can find a group willing.

[long sky]

Best way to learn the raids is just do them on normal,let everyone know your new. The 1st time you do a raid you'll be a ads killer. And from there you get to see base mechanics

[hearty grail]

We only did Discovery so we could get a lay of the land as it were. I know they're dumbed down and you don't get any raid loot but we don't have 6 others to raid with so joined this server then seen all the KWTD's in the LFG. I know from years of raiding in Destiny (though not since it turned into a cash-grabbing scam) what raid groups can be like sometimes with inexperienced raiders, even if they have 1000 hours in the game. The Division community doesn't seem anywhere near as toxic as they are though.
After a bad experience with a guy last night, it made me comment here to see if there are any raid-newbie friendly groups around.

[wintry ice]

any advice on how I can control C side in IH boss 2? I keep on getting flanked by the adds and taken apart, but I need to constantly move to cart RPGs and check the wifi boxes, which leaves me vulnerable to being out in the middle when like 6 adds spawn

[signal basin]

I’ve always played with two in C side. Tamperproof helps at the doors to stop the adds.

[fluid pier]

I suggest just shooting off your RPG at a wall and have them both spawn over at A side instead.

[long sky]

put a turret in from of the doors

[wintry ice]

Can you explain this? If I shoot off an rpg, does that make the rpg spawn at the other side? And how does this affect the normal adds spawning?

[wintry ice]

this is a good idea. Would a skill tier 1 turret be enough? I'm running HB

[long sky]

@wintry ice yup its just used to pull aggro

[wintry ice]

do you put it in front of the door in the back or closer to the center or does it not matter?

[long sky]

Right in front

[fluid pier]

If you shoot off an rpg as soon as you get it, the next rpg that spawns and is killed will drop another rpg. The rpg adds spawn staggered starting on A side first. A -> C -> A -> etc. So if you shoot off your rpg, then the next one that spawns on A, will get another rpg thus there will be 2 on A side and you wont have to worry about it and the person upstairs only has to open A for both rpgs.

[wintry ice]

https://tenor.com/view/megan-interesting-gif-14176736

[tender hollow]

In a LFG raid there should be 2 people on C. If not, consider joining another raid, as most likely the raid will be a very long and painful raid.

[dark belfry]

I spent the whole afternoon completing iron horse and didn't get anything except the loot I picked up off the ground. Is it glitched or something?

Nevermind, found out you don't get anything from discovery mode. What a waste of an afternoon

[icy hull]

ah

yea

[dark belfry]

I asked about the loot system a while ago in this channel and some mod didn't give me a straight forward answer and just said listen to your raid leader and everything will go ok. Like what does that have to do with the loot system?!

[dim wharf]

That sounds like riven lol

[warm wren]

We get a lot of questions along the lines of "hey am i ready for the raid?" so i'm guessing rivs was just tired and say "raid" and just threw together an attempted answer

[dark belfry]

She didn't have to answer, if she was tired she could've just ignored it and someone else could've helped me

[icy hull]

er welll... she did say "no raid loot"

[warm wren]

Looking at it again, you asked the difference between the two and then asked "So if I want exotics I have to play by myself?" which rivs took as "how should i get the raid exotics?"

[icy hull]

"no Raid-locked Loot."

[dark belfry]

Yeah but then to double check what she meant I asked if I have to play by myself, and she gave that answer that didn't help at all

[icy hull]

i mean.... i dont know how "no raid locked loot" can be misunderstood though...

[warm wren]

You got your answer about the raid loot systems, then asked if you needed to be solo to get the exotics. You were then informed how to get a group together for a raid, as you need to be in a group to do the raids, generally.

This isnt a miscommunication, this is a misunderstanding.

Very specifically you asked "So what's the difference between discovery and normal difficulty for raids?", which is you asking about the loot system. Your answer was given as "Discovery has simpler mechanics, easier enemies, and no Raid-locked Loot.
That includes Exotics and Blueprints for the Gearsets."

That is the most straight forward answer you could have gotten.

The only other thing Riven could have included is that Discovery features matchmaking while normal mode does not.

[dark belfry]

Dude everyone knows how to que up for raid. I asked about the loot and told me how to que up. How is that helpful

[warm wren]

You asked "So if i want exotics i have to play by myself".

That is as clear as mud.

I'm not surprised at all that riven didnt catch your exact meaning, but thats no reason to get mad at her.

[dark belfry]

Because the second answer wasn't what I was asking. And I was double checking because I wanted to be completely sure

[warm wren]

Your first question was the differences between discovery and normal. Your next message, also a question, was "So if I want exotics I have to play by myself?"

The first question was answered correctly, nigh fully.

[dark belfry]

Right. As in the exotics that are rewarded at the end of a raid.

What's so confusing about that

[icy hull]

hol up

since this is getting um... "out of hand". TLDR: You were given the correct answer for raid loot. (shown above)
Exact quote "no Raid-locked Loot."

[dark belfry]

I've never done a raid before and didn't know what that meant so I followed up with so if I want exotics I have to play by myself.

I have an assumption but I wanted to make sure

[icy hull]

did you find a group through #lfg-raid-pc channel?

[dim wharf]

Heres what you need to know. Completing the raid doesnt guarantee you'll get the exotics

Discovery is a useless waste of time. Its a complete clusterfuck of people who are clueless, and theres no raid rewards for it. Group up in the channels in this discord instead and do the actual raid.

Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss. Most people have no issues walking people through for the first time as long as your upfront about it. Ideally you'd have a dps build ready to go with +50 chc and +150 chd

[dark belfry]

I don't need it because I could just que up with ransoms. It's not the matchmaking I needed info on it was the loot

[warm wren]

You cannot get the exotics through discovery.

[dark belfry]

Thank you raucey. You should be a mod

[warm wren]

That is what Riven told you directly.

[dim wharf]

theres no matchmaking for the raids, only discovery

and never

[dark belfry]

Yeah after putting her message through Google translate a hundred times

[warm wren]

Direct quote- "No raid-locked loot"

Raid locked means anything that is raid exclusive. Like the raid exclusive exotics.

[dark belfry]

Then just say raid exclusive or raid rewards. Like what kind of word combination is that?

[warm wren]

Its a word that is nearly a synonym. I dont see how you got it confused.

We arent using some kind of completely out there language.

I'm sorry that you wasted your afternoon because of a misunderstanding, but it was a misunderstanding on your part.

[dim wharf]

sure are welcoming

[dark belfry]

It could've been worded better, but I'm over it now. Thank you raucey for your help

[tough sigil]

Does anyone know how to get the eagle bearer

[tender hollow]

You have to do the Dark Hour raid on normal difficulty. It will not drop in Discovery. It can drop from the bosses but its a very small chance. More likely it will drop from the chest that you can open after you kill the last boss. Someone who gets it with whom are you raiding with, can also give it to you.

[tough sigil]

Ah ok thanks

[tender hollow]

To do normal raids, you should have a DPS build. e.g. https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?noteGuid=0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9&noteKey=2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2F0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9%2F2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808&title=The%2BStandard%2BDPS%2BBuild
A skill build is not a dps build.
A tank build is not a dps build.
Ideally it should be >=50chc and >=150CHD. If not, and you are in a raid that takes all afternoon, that is why you are in a raid that takes all afternoon.

[dark belfry]

thank you

[glacial bolt]

full 8 person clan crash on dh ;O

[tender hollow]

Been playing for a while but never got into raids. Is there like a seperate lfg for new raiders or is do I just join the regular normal runs and hope people don't rage about me not having any experience with the fights other than discovery ?(which doesnt really compare to normal from what ive heard)

[muted horizon]

@tender hollow if you’re new to raiding make it known when you join a group and ask questions during - if you speak up most pugs in RV are willing to teach or explain what’s happening - I know ayoub , raucey, thoughtseize, and myself are four guys that generally lead pug raids and are willing to teach if you speak up.., if you don’t let ppl know then they assume you know what’s going on, then when wipe it’s another issue

[tender hollow]

Roger, ty

[warm wren]

@void walrus @sharp stratus Please use the correct LFG channel for finding raid groups. This is the discussion channel.

[mighty scaffold]

When you unlock the regulous does it start to drop open world

[crude onyx]

No you can only get it through project. Other raid exotics( ravenous and EB) also only drops from raid

[mighty scaffold]

Ok was wondering because you have to craft it to get it the first time

Thanks

[dusty sapphire]

I feel like the raid should be able to matchmake… I’m a solo player and sometimes it takes me days to find a full group

[ivory rampart]

Oh hell no you will regret it

Try discovery and you will get what im trying to say

[muted horizon]

Matchmaking in regular Raids is a much debated issue, but yeah, basically the Raids in div2 require a certain amount of teamwork, they're basically the only content that can't be solo'd with enough practice.
There's a very good reason they can't have Matchmaking.

[native stone]

can i do a raid i never done it before

i want good loot

[tender hollow]

If you're asking for permission then no, you can't

Do your chores first

[strange shuttle]

Is anyone doing an DH raid?

Never did it and wanted to try it

[muted horizon]

You're looking for #lfg-raid-console 🙂

[strange shuttle]

Ohh ok thanks

[long sky]

@bleak eagle look 2 posts above(rivens)

@native stone have a decent dps build and goto #lfg-raid-pc

[echo forge]

do the ironworks base materials only drop once per week?

[crude onyx]

Yes, they drop from key boxes when raid is fresh. (Resets every Tuesday)

[muted bridge]

Does the expertise systems alleviate DPS issues on IH DH? I have been out of touch with raids but wants to wait until proficiency 12 or something...

[twin junco]

What do you mean by "alleviate" and "dps issues"? If you have a decent dps build right now, you can finish IH easily in an experienced group. No need for expertise ranking.

[muted bridge]

i fail often when it is the most important...

XD

[twin junco]

Maybe not a matter of dps, but play style and build creation? Dont know 🤷‍♀️ 😅

[muted bridge]

lol, it is clumsiness thingy

[long sky]

@muted bridge what kind of dps build are you running

[muted bridge]

FMJ

[long sky]

You should be fine I run the same thing with no problems

Coyote mask, 3piece providence, contractor's gloves and fox's prayer...59 chc 190+chd

[elder sedge]

https://imgur.com/a/oGKMFxU 😂 no d50 required required

[fluid pier]

It could definitely help if a group is struggling specifically due to the lack of dps. But if an entire group of raiders is struggling to have sufficient dps, they more than likely won’t be players with high expertise levels anyways. And even if that weren’t the case and 1 or 2 players within the group does have high expertise levels, it probably wont be a night and day difference of dps either as the raids are more reliant on whether or not players know what they’re doing vs. heavily shooting stuff.

[muted bridge]

Sometimes I will mess up against ads in a 2v1 or 3v1 scenario, especially as DPS

Really tempted to run shield instead of banshee pulse

Think my FPS skills are rotting... Old people...

[tender hollow]

or assault turret

[muted bridge]

If assault turret do aggro properly, will consider.

[long sky]

Raids will be starting in a few hrs

Tuesday reset day

[latent jewel]

Given that XIV has matchmaking for savage raids, I don't see why D2's raids couldn't, especially DH. A single person can sherpa newbies, after all.

And just noticed I'm talking about something that was mentioned on the 12th. Thanks, discord

[oblique niche]

how is it possible to shot all 40 bears in the raid? won't this take ages and hold off the entire group? i still want these commendations tho -.- im guessing u could also do this challenge in discovery mode. what would u suggest

[long sky]

bears and gingerbread can be done either way

[crude onyx]

You can do both bears and gingerbreads after you finish the raids. Just creat raid solo without resetting it and you can run around whole map

[oblique niche]

oh good to know. how exactly would i do that tho? i play with a group and once its done, i resume personal progress or what exactly?

[crude onyx]

Once you finish a raid with people that map is open unless you reset the raid. So just create raid on your own but dont reset it. When you start you will be on the open map

There are 2 tricky ones you have to use skills. Bear in DH, in the first key box place you need to use a sticky bomb to break it bc you cant walk in there. And Gingerbread on sniper alley you can use a firechem bc you cant get up there. Anything else you can take your time and shoot while watching a video for their placements.

[thorny bison]

I'm assuming you've tried discovery?

[latent jewel]

No, only normal.

[wild wraith]

Is anyone doing the iron horse raid now?

[latent jewel]

Which is why I'm saying I believe people could complete the raids through matchmaking.

[long sky]

The problem with matchmaking is people don't want to listen, or they'll say they know what todo but dont

And that happens in normal mode as well

[wild wraith]

I can’t get 7 more ppl for a raid

It’s annoying af

[long sky]

I know it's easier on pc to get a raid going

But I also know that council players use stadia to cross-platform play

[tender hollow]

It will be difficult for Dark Hours. Extremely difficult for Iron Horse. This is because 1/2 the people will not have comms.

Try yourself with matchmaking in Iron Horse and see if you can complete a the Discovery (which is equivalent to Hard mode open world difficulty) Iron Horse a couple of times in a row in less than 1 hour each attempt. Now a Normal mode Raid is maybe 10 times more difficult than Hard mode open world difficulty.

[latent jewel]

So you're saying pubs have a hard time completing discovery already? Huh.

Didn't know that

I said so

[tawdry island]

Just give it a try. Can be funny when all run around like headless chicken😂 some time ago while doing DH on Discovery I had one guy in group with a shotgun. He stood besides Razorback and pumped one shot after the other into the tire of Razorback. After he ran out of ammo he got new ammo and rinse and repeat. Maybe he thought that Razorback would drive away if he didn't flatten the tire...😂

And don't forget to inspect the other players. You will see "builds" u never thought u will see.

[tribal tusk]

Lol

[latent jewel]

Amazing

Sure, I'll try it at some point

[tender hollow]

Is it worth doing raids on discovery ?

[hot jolt]

if you enjoy going insane, yes

[dim wharf]

In other words, absolutely not

[long sky]

Hey wyvern and Raucey

you know we should do a descovery raid to see how fast we could do it

[hot jolt]

Discovery speedrun? 👀

And hey Saph

[trail oriole]

I'm in.

[long sky]

@hot jolt I mean think of it ,could be a blast. Couple regulos, couple ravenous. How fast would the bodies be moving unnaturally 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[hot jolt]

I can already hear the sound of explosions lmao

[long sky]

@hot jolt and just to be mean all the scorpios a person can carry

[strong sluice]

Anyone have a good Iron Horse guide video they can recommend? Only reason I haven't tried to do it is because all the videos I've found suck ass

[dim wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIrEY79Faxk&list=PLeK6nKsdQbDpMPZH8HujxNg-EV-VvlEWM

its long and detailed, but it shows everything from basic lfg strats to some speedrun stuff. Only problem is he never made a boss 4 guide, but its still the best guide out there for IH

[long sky]

@strong sluice as long as you have a decent dps build and let them know your new. They'll let you know what to do or need you to do. Plus they'll help you get all your goodies

[dapper olive]

how much damage do i need to crack the chunga helmet last boss in iron horse?

[fluid pier]

IIRC upwards of 11.3mill

[dim wharf]

Isn't that to kill? Cracking is like 23 or 24 something I think

[gaunt thistle]

Cracking is 24m

[long sky]

Yup setup w headhunter then kill with nemisis or 50cal

[fluid pier]

oh right. misread yeah cracking is upwards of 23.4mill IIRC

[agile oar]

Can someone post a picture of there build for the iron horse raid?

[tender hollow]

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?noteGuid=0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9&noteKey=2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2F0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9%2F2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808&title=The%2BStandard%2BDPS%2BBuild

[agile oar]

Thank you

[short reef]

where can i find a group to go raid dark hours ?

[muted horizon]

#lfg-raid-pc will help.

[short reef]

thanks alot

[alpine agate]

I need a sherpa for my first raid and build advice. Is that here?

[muted horizon]

@alpine agate This chat can help you with the build, but you'll need to head on down to #lfg-raid-console to find a group.

[long sky]

@alpine agate if you never did a raid I'd suggest dark hours then goto Iron horse

[alpine agate]

Thanks guys! Yeah I was planning on doing DH first. Been playing since beta but haven’t had anyone to raid with

[blazing dagger]

Does raids give a lot of xp

[muted horizon]

Not really, if you're looking to farm xp there's much better options.
Raids are mainly for the fun+unique Exotics and Blueprints.

[acoustic walrus]

what kind of builds are good in raids? ive never done one in the division and wanna go for eagle bearer

[muted horizon]

Your ideal first build in a Raid (do Dark Hours first, it's much easier and actually has EB) is the "Standard Red DPS build" that's linked in the 📌 pinned-message Spreadsheet over in #td2-build-advice

As long as you do what the host says, let them know you're new, and have a decent build, you'll do great.

[alpine agate]

Thanks for all the advice

[quasi laurel]

In anyone's opinion, which is "easier": Dark Hours or Iron Horse?

[muted horizon]

100% Dark Hours. It's basically just a DPS check most of the time.
Iron Horse has a lot more work in it.

[quasi laurel]

Interesting, and good to know, thank you. Between Black Tusk and True Sons, it's funny True Sons ended up a little more complex

[muted horizon]

I'd assume it's to do with it more being the 2nd Raid at bat, over any kinda lore purpose.
For a build, just go for the "standard red DPS" 📌 pinned in the spreadsheet over in #td2-build-advice

[quasi laurel]

I saw you pin that previously, thank you, I have a few strong DPS builds on hand fortunately lol

[muted horizon]

For Raids you kinda can't use a cqb build over a longer range one, since your job most of the time will be to hunker down and kill stuff, not be able to run over and be close.

tl;dr AR+Rifle over shotgun+smg.

[quasi laurel]

Abso-lutely. ARs and Rifles are bread and butter as it stands anyway (Hunter's Fury be blessed, it's so much fun). Credit where credit is due, Div 2 really took the cover-based system to its peak. Being exposed is so much more dangerous.

[muted horizon]

I do appreciate how tactical this game is sometimes.

[quasi laurel]

Sometimes. There is a craft to it and the Raids, for all their complex vexation, really bring those elements out

[dim wharf]

not really. You definitely dont want a CQB only setup like HF generally (also a lot of HF is on kill based which is weak in raids), but you will generally be moving around at at all various ranges including close range

[long sky]

Hey Raucey

[hushed cypress]

Guys! Is that sniper build from spreadsheet fine for cracking chungas helmet during morozova phase? Or theres a specific build for that?

I would be happy, if someone will post optimal build for that purpose.

[dim wharf]

Pretty much any HH build works. Personally I use the tips build that's in the sheet so I always have tac50 ammo and can solo crack/kill, but the other main build for it is a 100% stability build used for cracking/killing before the doors open. That one has less damage though, so outside speedruns I wouldn't worry about it too much tbh since it's a bit harder to run and maintain stacks.

[hushed cypress]

Okay, gotta grab both, bacause why not and will test in field. Thank you Raucey for hints, salute!

[viral hinge]

So ive been wasting my time building a cqc set since it won't play well in raids

[muted horizon]

It varies based on the Raid and team comp, overall I'd just go for more shooty and less shield.

CQB is still amazing outside of raids, which is where most players in div2 are.

[viral hinge]

I've been running AR/shotgun and building stacks

I think my armour may be a bit low since it's sub 1 million

[muted horizon]

600k is the default armour value with a maxed watch and no blue cores, just an FYI.

[viral hinge]

Kk ty

[fluid pier]

My unpopular opinion: Dark Hours is the harder raid in comparison to Iron Horse. Just my opinion though of course.

[muted horizon]

What makes you say that?

[thorny bison]

👀👀

[gaunt thistle]

super drag ☠️

[twin junco]

I thought the same 😅 for the mechanics, IH is much more complicated. But for a FTC, IH is easy to do in a good group. Thats my opinion and my experiences, too.

[fluid pier]

Personally, I think IH is easier BECAUSE of the fact that it is not a dps check. Mechanics, once learned, are imo very easy to do. On the flip side, even though DH is indeed a dps check, you can't just completely zone out and hold left click down to shoot at your targets. It requires understanding and being actively aware of the mechanics WHILE dpsing the Bosses which imo makes it harder on players. IH also requires very little experienced players to do. 2 experienced players is all that is required to "carry" a whole IH raid meanwhile DH on the other hand, requires closer to 4 minimum experienced players to "carry" the raid. Again, this is just my opinion of course.

[fluid pier]

I agree. The mechanics might be complicated to start with but becomes very easy once learned.

[long sky]

Dark hours is easier

[muted horizon]

@tight igloo You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc

[toxic bison]

Can anyone tell me, when I try to match make for the dark hours operation raid why is it that I can only match only for discovery difficulty Instead of normal mode?

[muted horizon]

Easy: because only Discovery Mode has Matchmaking enabled.

[toxic bison]

Yes but get NO response or I’m doing something wrong

It’s very complicated to get invited to a raid party, clan, or raid group……..can’t get any assistance anywhere

I have decent builds, more than one but I get nothing……..there are youtuber clamming that discord is the fastest way to join a raid group, but I’m about ready to give up.

[dim wharf]

this discord is pretty dead for matchmaking on xbox. Its mostly PC here, I'm not 100% sure the main way/place people group up on xbox. I think theres some xbox live matchmaking system, but ive never used it so I cant help much

[icy hull]

PC and PS4. not many Xbox raid groups here but some do form. for Xbox easiest is through the xbox group finder system thingy

[twin junco]

In my opinion, the best way to find a raid group are LFG posts on Xbox. But it depends on the time if and how many groups you will find.

[muted horizon]

If you're referring to #lfg-xbox, then Raid posts aren't actually allowed in there

[sacred drum]

do gear scores matter in raids?

[dim wharf]

Builds matter. Vast majority of players are at 40 where there's no gearscore. If your 30 I'd suggest getting to 40. Even a min/maxed level 30 build will be weak in raids

[sacred drum]

So u suggest me to buy the dlc?

Also, what does a min/max build mean?

[dim wharf]

im pretty sure its on sale atm, its 100% worth it

min/max means to basically get a build as good as you can

[sacred drum]

the WONY one right?

[sacred drum]

thanks for the info

[long sky]

Evening Raucey

[grave crane]

Question for the raid adds. Are the adds in the raids similar to heroic adds in terms of tankiness or are the more in line with challenging?

[long sky]

alittle of all of it

[tender hollow]

IMO enemy aggression is like Challenging but yeah they're just beefier

[long sky]

unless you run a neggo build or regulus build lol

[muted bridge]

"Normal" Raid enemies are heroic at least

Even the veteran (Purple healthbar) ones are quite deadly, but luckily they don't do those long range snipe shots from weird distances and angles often

It is harder to aggro them for sure

[proud wing]

question: is the raids replayable with loot drops? (destiny 2 raids are locked on weekly per char on drops so idk here)
-- is raid exclusive drops (final boss/chest) farmable?

[celest nebula]

Rewards per boss (and to extent the boxed keys) once per week

The big chest is always there to open provided you have enough keys

Last boss of raid will always drop one key

[proud wing]

so the foundry/FI chest and bag gear set, which ive read is exclusive on the raid, is it farmable?
then on final boss, i guess 5 runs post-weekly clear of X char, you can open the box again?

[mortal breach]

The foundry chest and bag are in the general loot pool now. I have both and I've never done a raid.

[proud wing]

ohh, ok ok.
i guess i can rush those projects then

[tacit laurel]

Hey guys, do you only get to open the chest at the end of the raid once a week? Meaning you get one shot at getting eagle bearer per week?

[hot jolt]

not if you farm the last boss for keys

[tacit laurel]

Meaning?

[signal basin]

Last boss always drops a key. As long as you have 5 keys, you can open the box as much as you like.

[hot jolt]

^

unless you like earning them the legit way, which in that case, you just run the entire raid over and over again

[light pond]

Isn't that the only way? I'm sure the farm method got patched....right?

[muted horizon]

Farm method?

[light pond]

Like farming the boss check point, I think it use to be a thing and is now patched

[muted horizon]

I haven't heard about it being patched, since it was a "thing" for literal years now.

[hot jolt]

I've heard similar stories, so could be

[dim wharf]

checkpoints as a whole got broken after TU15, but I believe they've been fixed for awhile now. it was just a bug, not something intended to stop people farming the last boss

[tender hollow]

a couple of years ago it used to be if you reset the raid 2 times [i think], you could always pick up 5 keys everytime you did the raid. the drop chance for eb was lower though. imo that was tons better, since you get a chance to get the eb from the chest each raid.

[long sky]

you can farm boss 4 on both raids

[red jewel]

Lfg, DH

Lfg, Dark Hour

[valid marlin]

This is a channel for raid discussions. For lfg use #lfg-raid-pc

[rapid pier]

Hi! to unlock regulus how many times do i have to run IH? im guessing atleast 3 times?

[proven hatch]

i am currently in that process and i have had to run 2 times so far and i will have to run at least once more, so yes at least 3 times

keep in mind for all of the runs you will probably want to wait until after the reset on tuesday between runs. to get the mats or to get the parts they only drop for the first run of the week

[long sky]

@rapid pier@proven hatchits 1 time to start regulus project could be 2-3 more to get specific materials then after you turn in all 4 parts of the project then do a fresh run after tuesday reset...Note you can only get the specific materials once a week

[rapid pier]

ye i figured ty

[long sky]

also all gear pieces are world aquireable

[rapid pier]

ye ive done that part i just need the materials to finish the projects

[long sky]

they were alitttle sneaky if you turn in materials for the 1 theyll give the materials for the other, most people do both at the same time

[proven hatch]

you do get a chunk of the materials on the first run as well though. that is why i only had to do 2. then finish the project now i have to wait for reset for the final run

[echo forge]

im on the exotic component part of the regulus project. Would i be able to finish it on a second character or do i need to wait for the keys to reset

[long sky]

did you do the regulus project on the other character

[echo forge]

no i havent started it on the other character

[proud wing]

anyone got an idea why the IH raid still says 0/4 boss looted when i played IH normal on june 24th? the weekly reset still has like 23hrs, so im pretty sure it didnt reset yet

[rustic pulsar]

does anyone know the amount of damage needed to cancel feiser's wipe mechanic?

[astral tundra]

Not sure but I can cancel it on a full true patriot tank build 6 blue cores

[rustic pulsar]

you're gonna have to be more specific there ._.

do you have a rough average of how much damage you dish to the bag?

[astral tundra]

Just picture a full tank build with an ak m it's enough to cancel full clip almost

On a full dps build it takes little effort

That's all I know

[rustic pulsar]

okay thank you

[long sky]

@proud wing glitch like dh just goto white house and comeback

[rustic pulsar]

thank you hundo

[gaunt thistle]

@rustic pulsar 5-7mil, u can use DCH + d50, 2 red cores, etc

[rustic pulsar]

It worked with your config, even 1 red core. thank you

[shadow heron]

Hi everyone !who can add me friend for do RAIDS ?

[long sky]

@shadow heron#lfg-raid-pc

[proper pike]

Hi guys I want to do dh raid for the first time and want to try get the eagle bearer can anyone help and want to join me

[void garden]

I'm looking for a clan that plays raids Europa time has builds for both DH and IH and played a lot of raids

[proper pike]

Looking to do dh for the first time if people can help me thanks

[magic fulcrum]

This is for discussion about the raids so you’d want to ask that in #lfg-raid-console

[proper pike]

Ok thanks didn’t realise 👍🏼

[gleaming summit]

Question on Iron Horse raid/projects. I did it for the first time and got to step 2 of Bulwark/Future. I only had 33 of 80 required Iron Horse Base materials. Will I need to run it two more times to complete these projects, then a 3rd time to get the regulus pieces?

[errant stag]

Question, does a Player able to play raid in Iron Horse and Dark Hours (2 Raid but not same places) in a week? Or you can just do one raid which is when you done in IH for example and after that, you can't do DH?

[tender hollow]

You can do either raid as many times in a week as you'd like

You can get only get the keys, materials, and special boss loot once a week for each raid

[long sky]

@gleaming summit you'll need to run FRESH raids to get the materials

[gleaming summit]

Thank you. Follow up question. I can run fresh this week, I only need 7 materials to complete my projects, if I don't open the chest at the end of my run, can I turn in my projects, get the regulus project, and immediately rerun and get all 5 exotic pieces?

[tender hollow]

You have to wait for a fresh reset to get the components afaik

[hot jolt]

The only exception is the Gold Ingot (unless they've changed it), but only having 1 out of the 5 parts for the project doesn't help that much

[elder sedge]

For a 1 shot should i use regulus or d50?

IH like boss 3 and 4

[void garden]

I'm looking for a clan that plays raids Europa time has buildings get both DH and IH and played a lot of raids

[terse meteor]

hi im new here could anyone help me with the raid ive never done 1 and would like to try get eagle bearer

[tender hollow]

For Eagle Bearer, you have to do the dark hours (DH) raid as it only drops there. On PC, when someone posts a DH raid, you join the raid voice in the left panel, and send a friend request in uplay connect to the host, who will then invite you to the raid.

Ideally you have a dps build

[terse meteor]

yeah ok thanks

[proud wing]

just a tip from a new-ish raider too,
make sure you watch some guides 1st before joining in, so you have atleast an idea on whats about to happen, and what not to do..
if you have no idea on the mechanics. just come clean and say you dont know what to do, so either they give you an easy role, or try to carry you

[terse meteor]

yeah ive been watching some yt on it

[proud wing]

most of the guides on YT is outdated on how the people here do the raid, so dont be surprised if they suddenly do something different

[terse meteor]

ok thanks

[muted horizon]

@terse meteor I made a video on yt for tu15 on how pug discord groups usually run dh and ih - each stray tried to keep to a few minutes on what goes down

[near leaf]

I need a Regulus

[long sky]

@near leaf time todo iron horse and start the projects

[formal merlin]

so is donating gear for expertise still broken

[red jewel]

Any thing special to get in CountDown?

[tender hollow]

No. However with the points you accumulated doing them you can buy named caches, and that can drop any named item including those that only otherwise drop in the DZ, such as the Custom Kard and The Gift.

Countdown also more quickly allows you to put together a decent build, as so many items of your targeted loot drop. What might have taken 8 hrs grinding before, you can finish in 2 hours.

[muted horizon]

What blueray said, but also something to note is that Countdown is not counted as a "Raid", so feel free to ask questions about it in the regular chats.
We appreciate you erring on the side of caution.

[red jewel]

the Custom Kard and The Gift? What's all about?

[warm wren]

Those weapons, along with a lot of others, are exclusively dropped in the Dark Zones, PVPVE areas of division 2. Other players will often try to steal your loot in the dark zones.

Using countdown currency you can get named caches, which are one of the ways of sometimes getting DZ loot. Not every named item cache will give you a DZ locked item though.

[glad ingot]

Anyone know the exact drop chance for the Reg BP? I only wanna do Raids for that so I can be done with it.

[warm wren]

For the blueprint? Do the project, its guaranteed from the project once you get to that point

[formal merlin]

so is donating gear for expertise still broken

[crude onyx]

never was

[formal merlin]

so its intentional that donating gear will eventual lead you to getting stuck at like 18 expertise?

[long sky]

Afternoon Aspect

[dim wharf]

Youll get to 20 by donating everything. There was a bug that doubled exp that was leveled by combat exp that was fixed, but the donating was always accurate

[formal merlin]

so if i donate i wont have to worry about getting stuck at like expertise 18 or 17 when i have everything proficient

[dim wharf]

Nope. I'm 20 myself and I did it almost all through donating

[glad ingot]

Oh damn.. Wait... Did I miss something? I completed IH once now, should I have access to the project at that point?

[strange chasm]

Who can help with the raids I have not got the eagle bearer and the ravenous xbox?@xbox

[swift peak]

as long as you completed it on Normal difficulty, the project should have dropped in automatically

[novel perch]

It is broken, better to donate per item.
The other day I bought 20 military p416's as it was on 0 still, I marked them as junk and did a donate all junk but the proficiency lvl was still 0

[proud wing]

got a question about how people identify the locations of fuzes/circuit breakers on IH 2nd boss.

so theres A side with 2 fuzes right? the one on close left (nearer to B) and theres the far left on A (near where the rocket guy spawns)

how does people here call those panels out? asking the callout for panel location itself btw, not how to identify which panels are connected to which screen

[tender hollow]

c.f. https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/hlbk6t/fast_strategy_for_operation_iron_horse_2nd_boss/

[crude onyx]

We don't call WiFi panels, we call which boxes to shoot. So if you are at back A and your WiFi panel shows correct image you say "Front A" and person at front shoots their red box and vice-versa. But basically it is front A and back A. Some people call front A, "deep A" too but that is not common.

[tender hollow]

oh... or you can call the person's uplay name

[proud wing]

ok ok, which is front and back A then?

is front the one nearer to B? and back A is the box near to the rocket spawn mob?

[crude onyx]

Nah just like they are named front A is the far place and back A is the close to stairs/B place. I just said we call boxes bc when you play "Back A" and you wifi panel shows correct image you don't call "Back A" as in that is the correct panel. You say "Front A" bc that is the correct box to shoot.

[proud wing]

ohh ok ok gotcha. thanks for the answer

[proud wing]

got another question,

whats the meaning of the codes the players type on IH?
like "aX bX"

[signal basin]

Probably the water that’s available there

[crude onyx]

It is the water pressure on each valve on sites. Ex. A25 15 15, B25 25, C15 15 etc. You need more than 80 but less than 100 pressure. So in this example you can use 40 from A and 50 from B to get 90 water pressure. We try to calculate most we can get (95 is best bc you get more time to give water) with less ,easiest, lever turns possible.

[proud wing]

so does the water change throughout the fight? or is it static?
or if the guy calls for water. do you just turn both valves on a? (iirc theres 2 valves dunno if im wrong) assuming A is one of the best values to reach the required amount?

[celest nebula]

the water valves around the arena changes after every wipe, but the required is still 90% minimum (iirc)

[crude onyx]

Pressure on each valve is randomly picked at the start of encounter and stays same unless you wipe/restart . So it will stay same during the fight, don't worry about that.
There are 3 levers on A site and 2 on both B and C. You have to decide which levers you are going to turn before hand. It can be All B + All C and none from A or All A + one of the C etc. It depends on the values you get. You just need to do quick maths and get a total value that is higher than 80 but less than 100.

When the control room person(or the tank) calls: "give me water" you just turn the designated levers the group choose.

[proud wing]

ok i get it, now if there are 2 valves needed on A, do you need the 2 valves turned at the same time? or is it ok for just 1 person doing the valves on 1 zone?

[crude onyx]

You can even need all 3 depending on the values.
Of course 2 people turning both at the same time is better but one person can turn all 3 too back to back. That is one of the reasons we want 95 if we can. Because total pressure starts going down as soon as you start turning valves.
So if only one person is available at that time, they can turn 2 or 3 levers needed on their own, and you will loose little bit pressure to the time it takes to turn all 2/3 solo but it still should be fine with the extra total pressure you have

tldr: all necessary valves should be turned with the "give water" command. But one person can do one site solo and turn all 2/3.

[proud wing]

ohhh ok.. thats a clear explanation. thanks a lot!

[gleaming summit]

Question with Iron Horse and Regulus. I completed Iron Horse last week and got the projects for FI and FB. I've completed those up to the point of needing more Ironworks Base Materials. If I run it this week and complete those can I immediately run it again to get the exotic drops for the Regulus project or do I wait another week?

[crude onyx]

You will need another week. Parts only drop on fresh raid, except for last part which comes from end chest. You can get that anytime

[gleaming summit]

Oh god that's disappointing. I only need 7 base materials and I can finish both projects. Thanks for the answer though.

[primal lintel]

I’m looking to do either raid I’ve never done one before but I have a lot of experience outside of raids I’m at world level 5 and gear score of 513 and while I don’t have the DLC I have almost everything unlocked still leveling up the gunner specialization tho. Although I hear the servers are down so maybe not tonight.

I also have most of the big exotics like the dodge city holster and knee pads and like Liberty, sweet dreams, merciless, chameleon, diamondback, still working on nemesis and chatterbox tho

[gaunt thistle]

Most raids at lvl40 and getting the WONY dlc is recommended and sometimes u can even find it on sale. Some teams allow lvl30 to raid but you would have to ask

[elder sedge]

For HB rb build do i use chest or backpack?

[weak moth]

any raid group available for PC

[sacred drum]

go to #lfg-raid-pc to find one

[humble shore]

why is there no matchmaking for raid iron horse and the dark hourse ? i have finish the discovery i cant matchmaking i miss something ?

[signal basin]

No matchmake for normal

[humble shore]

why ? whats the point of this

[warm wren]

the raids have no matchmaking on normal because they require atleast some degree of communication, and while that is possible in a matchmade group it is much rarer.

[crude onyx]

Because you would finish 1 out of 1000 of those raids and that one would probably take 6hs. Raids need knowledge and communication. They are nothing like countdown or discovery (which doesn't have half the mechanics and very easy enemies)

[humble shore]

ok so i pass looks like waste of time for this raid

i just wanna try it cuz i see a video on youtube with one op gun that one shot every one with 70m dmg

[dim wharf]

Just lfg in this discord, it's far far better than in game matchmaking would ever be

[humble shore]

its ok im gonna farm for another gun i dont wanna play with cheating gun

[dim wharf]

The regulus?

[humble shore]

yea that one the cheating pistol

[dim wharf]

It's not really cheating.... It's also not going to do 70m unless your hitting an Achilles mark + DCH

[humble shore]

i will try to get the nemesis sniper i have nothing to do

[warm wren]

Nemesis takes multiple weeks (or a friend). The Regulus is not hard to get, either, just requires patience and some farming. I'd reckon that Nemesis actually takes longer.

[humble shore]

i dont speak english to join raids

[warm wren]

You dont need to speak english, just understand it. And even then you can bring along a translator or find a group where someone speaks your language.

[humble shore]

i understand english but i cant speak thats the bad

i will check some guide for this raids and then i will try to get on this raid

[warm wren]

If you understand it, thats fine. You just wont be in any of the positions that require a lot of communication. Go farm out a red build and watch a video on the raid you want to do and post in the lfg chat that it'kk be your first time.

[humble shore]

great

[ivory rampart]

Search for clans who speak your language in #td2-clan-recruitment

[muted violet]

So uh... Only people in the same clan can run a raid? Is that still true? Dreaming about making a regulus build, but it seems such a bother if I need to clan-hop for it...

[warm wren]

you dont need to clan hop for it

[ancient burrow]

any raids today?

[swift peak]

#lfg-raid-pc

[random void]

To get the regulus BP can I complete Iron horse on discovery or does it have to be on normal?

[tender hollow]

Normal. See https://screenrant.com/division-2-regulus-guide/ and google search re when and what to do

[random void]

Thank you

Thank you

[tender hollow]

Someone down to farm The Raids?

[swift peak]

#lfg-raid-console

[long sky]

Hey Kettle

[swift peak]

hey saph

[lone wind]

Hey guys a buddy an I are looking to find a raid group to get the EB I’ve completed it before on console but I’m on pc now and have no one on my friends list besides one that can play with me now ANY HELP?

[long sky]

@lone wind #lfg-raid-pc

[cobalt yoke]

anyone got a raid guide video they recommend?

[dim wharf]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeK6nKsdQbDpMPZH8HujxNg-EV-VvlEWM

[cobalt yoke]

ty

[vagrant siren]

@strong orchid That's a spirit. But since gather a team is not ez. Even in here. And most of ppl want members on team know the basics.
Beside, there're still veterans in Discovery mode to help you get used to the raid without punishing too much. On Normal mode, you will need to get the job done fluently. Or it's gonna cost hours.
With ppl like hunting Exotics, they won't like that.

[strong orchid]

@velvet magnet agree'd, a sherpa whom can take the time to teach your is infinitely more valuable than a hit and miss discovery mode

[vagrant siren]

Yes. But Discovery mode do have veterans. Sometimes they join that mode to test their new build, new strategy, helping newbies, etc.

About the Youtube guild. I think watching and following it in game are 2 different things. All of members still have to do their job right tho. So assume that you're in the room with noobs, pratice and test to see how far can you manage your role. With your wife too.

[muted horizon]

A "veteran" joining Discovery Mode is incredibly rare for a simple reason: it's far easier to "test out" builds in a harder location, like a Heroic CP4/Summit, or Countdown.
Discovery Mode is just too easy for the more experienced Agents out there.

There is genuinely very little reason to ever go into Discovery Mode, outside of idle curiosity.

[long sky]

The speedrun group did a discovery IH on accident

Hey Rivens

[dim wharf]

been there
https://youtu.be/s9A0gMIJcM0

[long sky]

Lol nice

Hey Raucey

[tender hollow]

^ what makes a raid take hours is
(a) people not saying that they do not know what to do and doing random things and causing wipes
and/or
(b) 4+ people with blue cores or < 50chc <150 chd

[gaunt thistle]

A, i would rather have blue cores than ppl not talking and doing the mechanics. Both are still bad tho

[tender hollow]

(c) people thinking their drone + turret build is actually fcking doing something

seriously, why? go afk somewhere else

[paper charm]

People with headshot builds and landing the headshots consistently (Regulus/D50 or MMR) do not need to have high crit. Also, it is quite possible to have all 6 blue cores and 50% CHC and around 200% CHD.

[ivory rampart]

Calm down that backfire build isnt worth it 😏

[paper charm]

There is a viable Backfire build and strategy for boss 2 IH, for moderate speed.

[ivory rampart]

Easier to make a dps build which is viable for all bosses

I also see heartbreaker builds popping im sorry its also not good. If u really want to use gearset negotiator is the only good one

Hardwired dps is very situational and better to leave it for veterans

[paper charm]

Well, it is an activity for 8 for a reason, hence build variety. Not to say some of the weird (particularly DZ) builds belong in the raid, but there is a entire world out there beside (crit) DPS builds.

[ivory rampart]

True but not everyone is ready to sit for 4+ hours for content that can be finished in a hour

[paper charm]

Actually the so-called “true DPS” (crit) build is rarely used nowadays in speed-runs. Certainly not by 7 of the 8 or something like that. Usually you have some form of Negotiator’s or Headhunter where DPS really matters, or elsewhere you do not need the highest DPS.

And from what I have seen (as bystander), this applies equally to speedy Legendaries.

[ivory rampart]

Context here is new players and randoms lol

[paper charm]

I actually have someone on my team complaining about being called out for lack of crit, after he went in with a headshot Regulus build. There are these kind of “spreadsheet” groups out there.

[ivory rampart]

Those kinds are suggested because they are well thought out and works for most people

When its time to beam the boss ,dps from headshot player wont be as much as team of dps only

[paper charm]

Sorry, I can only conclude you have never speed-run and have not seen how to take down the boss properly. There is very little in the game that beats charged pistols with high headshot damage, particularly as a team hitting on Achilles-pulsed “heads.”

[ivory rampart]

Old man how many times do i have to tell u context here is randoms 🤣

[paper charm]

Randoms and people who randomly matchmake can also be with experience. And you are also making overly broad statements about builds.

[elder sedge]

How do i know i done the raid for the week without travelling to raid? Even raid journal's bugged and shows weekly exclusive loot

[signal basin]

Did you do a raid yesterday, the reset day?

[elder sedge]

Yeah but forgot what character I did it on. Both use identical builds

[shell haven]

turret OP on IH furnace to keep boss occupied

that being said, i dont tend to use drone+ turret

[tender hollow]

I'm talking about the AFK skill build specifically

I don't care about how T0 turrets are used, I use them myself

As soon as you build around the 2 most useless skills in the game, you become just as useless

[shell haven]

i mean, not much can beat the 50M+ regulus

its literally a "delete what you point at" unless its a legendary named or tank, then its a free armor delete

[limber cape]

hi can anyone carry me though the iron horse raid please

[valid marlin]

This channel is for raid discussions. To look for people to play with use #lfg-raid-console

[vagrant siren]

Oh my, room has lots of European.

[vagrant siren]

@silk tiger Wat u mean "remove"?

I just got one a while ago.

[silk tiger]

easy! they removed the chill out!

[vagrant siren]

Where they said it? Is it recently?

Cause yeh. Im sure I do have it recently.

[drowsy ivy]

they removed it since i think the 2nd manhunt target

also, for the ginger bread man thing, can you still do it AFTER blowing up the razorback ?

[vagrant siren]

Ginger Bread man thing? I don't get it.

[drowsy ivy]

the DH there's a patch for shooting x number of gingerbread man

i've just managed to get the flawless patch, so was thinking of perhaps getting the bread too, after dealing with the stuff and being left alone

[vagrant siren]

Oh, so it was around the time I got Chill Out. Since I used it for 2 mods and tank core, I barely care if I have more.

[twin junco]

Gingerbread is IH, you mean Blueberry the bear for DH.

[drowsy ivy]

ah right my bad, bears and breads....

[vagrant siren]

Once again, I have no idea wat is "gingerbread man".

These terms are still new for me.

[drowsy ivy]

so far for DH, i'm just missing the bear, while for IH i'm missing the hot footed , flawless and bread....

[twin junco]

But Blueberry you have to do on normal DH. Gingerbread you can do on discovery. Its a patch.

[vagrant siren]

Oh, the patch to put on your shoudler?

[drowsy ivy]

funny how I've already got both raid's exclusive exotic with >50 runs, and still haven't tried the discovery mode...

tbh, i nearly got the hotfooted one before with a guy that wants to try to be in the control room

[vagrant siren]

The only patch I put on my so far was the Breakpoint one.

[vagrant siren]

Well, as long as he learned it.

And for that, should have 2 tanks I supposed.

[drowsy ivy]

nah, 6 DPS, 1 medic in the room up there boiling, 1 hazard tank for water/reading

[vagrant siren]

But wat if the Tank needs to cool himself?

[drowsy ivy]

step out

[vagrant siren]

Like u can let the Boss alone in there for a bit?

[drowsy ivy]

medic is up there to heal himself when the boss break the window and seal the room, the tank mostly just need to pop in, read the error and/or run to the panzer and water it

as long as the medic is a good one, he can survive

[vagrant siren]

I mean before that phase.

[drowsy ivy]

oh, doc will be fine

[vagrant siren]

Or there is a build that can make u survive until the Boss breaks window?

Anyway, i think i asked this before but wat Hazard Proc do?

[drowsy ivy]

during the error reading, and crucible moving phrase? well i just go for a Future Initiative with 2 piece Alps

healing hive and chem, chem will stay on ground long enough to charge up hive

hazard proc makes you burn/stun/bleed/blind less

so if you got 100% hazard protection, during the 3rd boss his roller mines can't do crap to you

(as well as the train chase part)

[vagrant siren]

Both are healing type?

Do I use them both or I use chem to wait for hive?

[drowsy ivy]

need that to keep yourself from cooking

put hive done as soon as you began to cook, when hive is dead, drop 1 chem, wait until the chem is gone, drop hive

should be able to keep yourself alive for 4 min

[vagrant siren]

No Skill haste?

[drowsy ivy]

healing AND haste actually

though mine has duration

[vagrant siren]

Wait, the tank?

[drowsy ivy]

the medic up in the room

the tank just go for full hazard protection

[vagrant siren]

Ah yes, the tank use shield.

[drowsy ivy]

either the liberty, or the ravenous

liberty for emergency heal, ravenous for when teammate messed up

[vagrant siren]

How much body shots before go to headshot?

[drowsy ivy]

depends on you actually, i just 7 to the body and 1 to the head

i mean, you aren't supposed to engage him, at all, you just need him to look the other way

so for my tank i use decoy and shield, run in, drop decoy, pop vanguard shield, run to the water thing

stand there as my team forgot which water to add

[vagrant siren]

How I deal with the water?

I saw 3 spots have 2 vans on each.

And one on the control room.

[drowsy ivy]

medic will command it, the tank just, point the gun at the panzer with the molten steel, and spray it until the boss rages, that's like the final part of it

[vagrant siren]

Yeh, but i mean if Im not the tank.

[drowsy ivy]

the medic will command it

"All A, 25 from C" stuff like that, basically he needs 100 unit of water

[vagrant siren]

So he needs to calculate it?

Can the van be turned back if the water level higher than needed?

[drowsy ivy]

nope

that's when the tank dies

[vagrant siren]

@old forge Wat raid you guys doing?

[drowsy ivy]

hey, i just did a raid with him yesterday !

with a guy that sounds, rather underage...

Master-creeper or Creepy-master or something...the whole raid team was complaining

[vagrant siren]

Who, Agent47?

I played with him before iirc.

Nothing wrong with him tho.

Or maybe he just didn't talk.

The most talking team I played with was the Russian team I met yesterday.

[drowsy ivy]

not him

someone in squad with him last time

kid sounds like a 10 years old, screaming and yelling and the usual works

Agent is nice guy though, very nice guy

[vagrant siren]

lol, yeh. I might forgot how he talked, but I know he's a gud guy.

[drowsy ivy]

very gud

[twilit wharf]

gentlemen, does resource sharing work now properly for regulus bits? like if i run IH with my second dude, will i be able to contribute to the project progress on my first dude afterwards?

[drowsy ivy]

that one i'm not so sure tbh, but i have seen players with multiple agents coming in, out, grab key and resources individually before

[twilit wharf]

lol what, so relogging within the same raid?

[drowsy ivy]

grab key number 1, get out, re inv as agent 2, grab key...

though i have no idea if that still works or not, I'm just running as a single agent

[celest nebula]

if material sharing is enabled/bought yes

because the project stuff technically count as materials

[elder sedge]

For double down boomer is it 5 during boomer down then 1 when he goes immune?

[dim wharf]

So many people forget about that 7th shot...

[long sky]

6 and 1

Problem is if there is more than 1 scorpio it messes up the doubledown

[dim wharf]

5 then 2, not 6 then 1

[long sky]

Hey Raucey I've used both methods

[long sky]

When you double down on 1st boss in DH you can shoot him 5 time wait then as he stands shoot him 2 more times to stunning him to redown him. Or shoot him 6 times wait till he stands and hit him 1 more time

Note; this needs to be done by only1 person

[gaunt thistle]

@long sky the whole point is to shock him when he starts to stand up, are u shooting 6 times while hes still down?

[long sky]

It always is 7th for me unless I'm miss counting

Now I'm gonna have to pay attention

[dim wharf]

6th is shock, 7th is 20% damage

[frail moon]

yo new player here , what do people mean when they say 'rv' in lfg raid ?

[swift peak]

raid voice channel

[frail moon]

ah cheers

[nova peak]

Raid virgin XD

[frail moon]

@nova peak yep , pretty much 🤣 😭

[elder sedge]

Bruh fieser to soo buggy

I stand on the pool where loot is, I die. Other do it they remain alive

[drowsy ivy]

kind of an odd question, but how long does it take to get the hot footed achievement?

[untold herald]

Sup ! Tonight i wanna do my first ever raid after work. Is someone experienced willing to help me ?

If you have any good video for me that would be amazing

Thanks! Dont wanna be completely useless lol. Luckily ive got a decent loadout atm with 4 piece HB set (2 converted to redcore for damage).

[long sky]

what do you want to know about DH raid

@untold herald do you want the old standby red dps setup?

[untold herald]

Yeah, thanks!

[rapid wedge]

Glass canon full red!

[winter shard]

creeper master he is 10

[unkempt star]

hey im new to the server i was wondering how i can join raids?

[vagrant siren]

Go to #lfg-raid-pc

If you're PC player.

Then comment the request: "lfg dh(ih) rv1(2,3,4,etc)"

@unkempt star

dh = Dark Hours, ih = Iron House.
rv1 = Raid-Voice-1.

[proven hatch]

i believe that you mean rv1 = Raid-Voice-1

[muted horizon]

Since voice channels have a built-in chat now, it's actually both.
however yes, RV1 does stand for Raid Voice-1.

[vagrant siren]

Oh snap. My bad.

[elder sedge]

For a control room build on ih boss 2 won't the catharsis mask be better? Say on a tank build since people are somewhat running one

[vagrant siren]

Idk. I think you have to got shot, not got boiled.

[gaunt thistle]

@elder sedge any healer build will be fine, u will need 6 yellow cores to basically outheal it but if u run catharsis you would need tech or tdi custom for the 6 cores

[dim wharf]

You want btsu gloves anyways to overcharge your teammates

[vagrant siren]

Wait, so Catharsis actually works on heat stacks?

[gaunt thistle]

yes since ur taking damage but it does not cleanse the forge debuff stacks, but as raucey mentioned btsu is much better as it can reset revives, OC heal, nego, etc

[elder sedge]

Catharsis mask has tick stacks so the damage in control room must cause it to stack

[elder sedge]

Some groups i run with run haz pro tanks in control room and no healer so I'm thinking for some extra healing why not catharsis?

[icy hull]

yall saw nothing 👁️

[elder sedge]

Its a Wednesday not Friday so stop drinking 🤪

[gaunt thistle]

@elder sedge so who will oc? And whats the point of having a tank there that does nothing. A FI healer can provide +25% dmg to the team and OC just for existing and can survive there infinitely. Even if a haz tank can survive they would not bring any value to the team

Unless they are spamming vanguard, which is what the forge tank can do for water and codes but thats also optional, FI buff is really underestimated

[tender hollow]

Its for if the team is learning/stuck on boss 2, and the control person just wants to chill, especially with Catharsis.

Note that a group that is struggling, the players will rarely have full armour and not benefit from FI. Which is why imo its pointless having a FI DPS in Razorback for LFGs. Groups that benefit, don't need it. Groups that are struggling, won't benefit.

[gaunt thistle]

@tender hollow Regardless of FI buff, shouldn’t groups that are struggling have a healer?..

[spare rain]

So when getting the ravenous does it only drop from the final chest or does it have an miniscule chance to drop from the bosses too

[signal basin]

Able to drop from bosses, but yeah, little percentage chance. Chest at the end has higher chance.

[tender hollow]

Yes I agree. A good healer [not always using chem heal + hive heals] can help a team that struggles, such as in boss 1, 2 and 3 in Dark Hours.

[vagrant siren]

@lunar hull Doing DH more than 1 time.

@lunar hull Oh, sr. Clan call for raid. Gudluck.

[drowsy ivy]

curious, how long does it actually take to get the Hot Footed commendation for the 2nd boss? last time I tried with a new team the control room guy sorta messed up so we took a long time and it is still not filled

[drowsy ivy]

oic, thank!

[muted horizon]

@zenith magnet You're looking for #lfg-raid-console

[spare rain]

If you complete dh or ih final boss and get enough key frags can you open the chest again or is it once a week

[gaunt thistle]

final boss always drops a key, you can only open one key box per week (4 keys + 1 key from boss)

[spare rain]

The weapon can drop from the bosses is it farmable or just the first kill of the week(does it lose its drop chance after the first time you kill them that week)

[obsidian wharf]

iirc it's 2.5mins between each code read, not the duration of the encounter itself

[shell haven]

Question-- IH Fieser-- what is preventing us from flipping power back on

[drowsy ivy]

teamwork

both end need to be switched at the same time

[shrewd knoll]

any guide for an dps raid build?

[ebon osprey]

What is the best build for raids and is anyone willing to group up for 8 player raid achievement me and my friend need the acheivement