td2-raid-discussions

[echo burrow]

Fun is in discovery

[tender hollow]

Rip

Can lv 30s do iron horse then?

[narrow sleet]

I think you need to do WONY to do it, but I'm not 100% sure

[tender hollow]

Damn i want a carry lol

I need parts

But dont wanna build more chars

[narrow sleet]

I don't know if you even can join a raid if you haven't finished WONY

[tender hollow]

Ive done dark hours at lv 30 before

[narrow sleet]

Ahh, fair. I've only done raids at lvl 40

[tender hollow]

But that was like many tu before

I took a long break from the game

[hot jolt]

You can do both raids on level 30

[safe cosmos]

Be mindful that you need other lvl 30 players for this

Or just go for lvl 40 and dont worry about that crap

[hot jolt]

Forgot to mention that, thanks @safe cosmos

[tender hollow]

Can a lv 30 join a lv 40 raid?

[tawdry widget]

Yes, as long as he is WT5, 485 gear score and has talked to the helicopter NPC. The lvl 30 player will scale up to lvl40 damage output, but will still be carried, the scale isn't completely apples to apples.

[tender hollow]

I will be able to get the parts then right

[tawdry widget]

As long as it's normal, yes

[tender hollow]

fyi did a quick test on a lvl 30/gs501 with almost max weapon damage.
Was told my weapon damage on a Classic M1A was 378K (x 4.5 what you see yourself when you inspect).
On my level 40 without Foxes but with +5weap dam on the watch, my Classic M1A weapon damage is 462K.

Didnt look at Armor, CHC/CHD.

[stiff zephyr]

Your m1a should be hitting one mill, and then a couple mill crits

[inner ocean]

what do you guys recommend i do before i run dark hours?

[hot jolt]

get a good dps build (and maybe watch some videos to give you an idea of what to expect)

[swift peak]

a bit of basic research into what each stage involves would not go amiss, group leaders will appreciate you've made some effort to be useful

[muted horizon]

after you do both of those, the most important 3rd step is pretty simple: listen to what the Raid Leader tells you.
someone causing trouble will be kicked pretty quickly.

[inner ocean]

alright

[spiral cypress]

hey im wanting to do dark hour is there a specific build i should go for to do it?

[hot jolt]

an all red dps build

[spiral cypress]

aight thanks

[verbal mist]

Look up the full meta jacket in the build advice pinned .

[spiral cypress]

ok ill take a look

[gusty willow]

So the word is on the street that somebody opened first key on iron horse without the little windows but from outside. Does anyone by any chance have link to that video?

[magic fulcrum]

??????

[gusty willow]

somebody opened first key solo without putting the fuze in and throwing the nade through the small window.

[civic dagger]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwZgtAnGAMNqdZJgLgCwFZ7EnBxoB2RRFYLKZBADmTrO3jrAx2ejLV3ZKTPEq8hHAEwhqYEZGLkc5cOSnku9HmtTq1KEUA would a build like this work when jamming drones for razorback

wondering if drone kills from jammer would contribute towards calculated to reset jammer cooldown, I'm pretty sure it just barely reaches the 90% skill damage breakpoint required to one shot drones at full armour from the FI buff

[west spruce]

@civic dagger drone kills from jammer will contibute towards the calculated backpack proc, but it might not be in time if the group is opening up razorback fast with crossbow + grenade launcher; this build might be slightly shy of enough skill damage to one shot the drones, unless you are running technician with skill damage perk or having another Survivalist/Demo teammates in your subgroup for the tactical link buff.

[civic dagger]

right I see, I've seen 90% skill damage quoted as the breakpoint required to oneshot a lot and I'm confident it hits that at least

[west spruce]

unless you are using Wyvern Backpack, I only see 85% skill damage maximum with this build; though the interaction of FI buff being 25% multiplicative might push it slightly over the edge to make it work.

[civic dagger]

yep the 25% multiplicative puts it at +100%

[west spruce]

you have 5 skill dmg rolls, 25% from FI, 10% from watch so that's 85% to me, I don't see how it gets to 100%

[civic dagger]

it's something like 1.6 * 1.25 = 2

(base skill damage + skill damage bonus) * total skill damage bonus

[west spruce]

that might work, but you are at the mercy of how fast the waves spawn between drone waves, and your clutch mechanics is the overcharge if the 2nd wave of drones spawn faster than your calculated cooldown

[civic dagger]

yea, I'm hoping calculated will knock the cooldown down to within 10s to handle the second wave

but I'm not sure if even that's fast enough on a quick team

[west spruce]

it won't be instant like hardwired, you will have to get your teammates to slow down on opening razorback, and you are at risk of being damaged by drones before the 2nd jam thus rendering FI buff ineffective and failing to one shot.

[tawdry widget]

If the team is using crossbow + demo grenade to open the vents, 10 seconds won't be enough, as the opening will be near instant

[west spruce]

FI jammer is only foolproof to me when I run both named chest and backpack from Empress, so I have perfectly skilled as a backup as well, 2nd piece of Empress also allows another 10% skill dmg to make up for the difference.

[civic dagger]

just don't really like the idea of being at the mercy of rng from that chest piece and also losing 10% from not having the FI chest haha

I'll give it a spin at some point maybe and if it sucks I'll switch it back around

[tawdry widget]

Do a red FI and leave the drones to someone else, with HW, problem solved.

[west spruce]

which is why HW is the foolproof method, but if you insist on Future, both Empress pieces make it safer than only Perfectly Calculated. Your jammer cooldown won't be in time for a quick razorback open.

[civic dagger]

yea I've been mainly using HW thus far was just playing around with some builds to see if we could get away with not having one

[west spruce]

but if you are in control of the crossbow, then you can choose to jammer pulse the first wave of drones first before popping crossbow on the hatch, thus allowing more time between drone waves spawn.

[tawdry widget]

You can also do a red HW, with Gunslinger, D50 and Ravenous if you feel like mixing it up and helping to open the weakpoints/kill adds

[civic dagger]

would a red HW reach the damage required to one shot drones?

[tawdry widget]

Yes, Skill Tiers only affect range in the Jammer

[west spruce]

Skill Tier has no impact on Jammer Pulse damage

[civic dagger]

ah I see, I guess you'd need to time it perfectly as the drones are coming out then?

[west spruce]

you just have to be closer as the jammer range is smaller, apart from that the mechanics are the same

[tawdry widget]

Only thing you need to pay attention is the distance, shoot arrow, pulse, hug razorback, pulse and so on

If you're on 2 or 3 circle, after the second pulse, you may have time to pop 1 of the weakpoints (depending on your team's speed)

1 and 4 are also possible, but trickier with the all the razorback angles, 2 and 3 are just more visible

[civic dagger]

right maybe with dodge city D50 and ravenous?

[tawdry widget]

Yes

[civic dagger]

sick I might give that a try some time

[solemn sand]

hey guys, i wonder if 50.1% crit chance and 149% crit damage are already enough to do raid
kinda new to the game so my watch level isnt maxed yet

[dull cliff]

Yea I believe that's fine

[solemn sand]

allright, thank you

[tender hollow]

are there any specific gear/exotics that are pretty much required/preferred to use in dh?

[oak mica]

some people like ravenous for the last boss just because it destroys the razorback's weak points, but nothing compulsory

[tender hollow]

got it. had to ask seeing as i don’t really have anything noteworthy to use

[tawdry widget]

a Coyote mask, is a good one to have for group buffs

[oak mica]

nah don't worry about it tbh, as long as you have a good dps build no one really cares what you run tbh

[tender hollow]

that’s what i kinda figured since i realized this game is less actual gear oriented and more towards like stats and builds

[tender hollow]

funny enough that’s the one exotic i have that i’ve seen people recommend

[red compass]

Looking to get a newbie threw her first dark hours raid .. anyone help ??

[sturdy juniper]

We did DH after 2 hours with MMrs it was a really challenger

[dense rapids]

what is MMrs ?

[signal basin]

Marksman rifles

[dense rapids]

thank you

[covert storm]

any1 who can teach me how to nego strat 1 shot grey?

[vagrant wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFfE3U5A79Q

the chest piece has PGCon it. You can figure out the rest from the vid

[covert storm]

@vagrant wing Yes i have seen that 1 and some others. but i think i have the build but do not seem to get it to work so i might be missing something in my build or i am doing something wrong. hence my call for guidance.

[vagrant wing]

if you describe your build and what you did ppl might be able to point out the mistake (if there's any), just saying

[covert storm]

PGC you mean i guess

[vagrant wing]

yeah, a typo - sorry about that

[covert storm]

i will post a screenshot of my build here. it is not spect with all HS dmg but i guess that is not rly needed??

[vagrant wing]

you want to hit the cap for chc actually

the rest can be hsd

[tame sage]

the rest can be armor regen even. Damage comes from achilles, holster and ravenous

[covert storm]

CHC at 48%, can that be the problem right there then?

[tame sage]

where? You didn't described your problem at all

[vagrant wing]

one of em probably

[tame sage]

You could lack damage, you could lack achilles, you could lack time

[covert storm]

Problem is my dmg numbers are turning out too low, so maybe no crit?

[tame sage]

many stuff going with gray one shot in just 5 seconds and each of them can end up with fail

[vagrant wing]

do you know how the ND gearset work?

[tame sage]

almost

[tame sage]

Like, give us numbers, we can try to give you an answer. What is "too low"? Also, if it's crit, you will see number as "orange" one.

[covert storm]

yes but i might be wrong about the achilles pulse. I thought that would ensure a crit to a body part

[tame sage]

first, no, it will not

second, you need to shoot helmet

[vagrant wing]

i sent them over to vroom vroom, it'll be easier to discuss there

[tender hollow]

so i’m assuming both raids have proper mechanics and not just the old shoot the boss till it dies type of deal right?

[odd sequoia]

Does anyone want to run a raid? (Dark Hours)

[vagrant wing]

depends... DH is more of a 'shoot the boss till it dies type of deal' (with some mechanics patched into it, while IH is more mechanics heavy

[valid marlin]

Check #lfg-raid-console

[odd sequoia]

Thank you @valid marlin

[long sky]

lol this is funny im 825 in queue for div1

morning isabel

DH boss are shoooty shhoottyy bang bang

IH has more mechanics, but are irritatingly fun

[runic dune]

Beautiful community said "fuck off" before quit

nice love to play with those kind of guys

[hot jolt]

context?

[runic dune]

Some guys doest know what to do for the raid and take somes times and he said that

Doesnt*

[red compass]

Well if anyone wants to go threw a raid with me and the girl hit me up

[unborn walrus]

i'd like to do a fresh iron horse, i need the revolver parts to craft the regulus now. Dx

[echo burrow]

Um English?

[oak gust]

i need ironhorse

[obsidian bison]

we missing 2 in the raid

[hot jolt]

#lfg-raid-pc is where you want to look

[signal harness]

Lf raid group

[muted horizon]

You're looking for #lfg-raid-ps4

[brisk olive]

If i go to IH second time this week will bosses still drop ironwork materials?

[tawdry widget]

No, they only do on your first run of the week

You can run with a second character and they will drop, but they're not shared between characters

[velvet gust]

@mortal bronze how did that CC build work for you? and do i scorpio lucy before she walks out?

[tawdry widget]

I’m going to guess, it was probably for the scorpio damage buff and not the shock itself, shock doesn’t really work on B&L like it once did

[velvet gust]

Ohhh. Got it. The 7th hit buff

[vagrant wing]

it still does with very specific builds, but's it's hard to reproduce and not a certainty

[tawdry widget]

the amount of effort isn’t really worth it, I’d say, might just try and “one shot” them

[vagrant wing]

i agree 🙂

[hollow bloom]

need help to join a raid first time

[long sky]

just go 1 channel down

and hop in

[hollow bloom]

?

[long sky]

goto #lfg-raid-pc

youll see people looking to do raids

just hop in a raid and let them know your new

and have as much red as possible

and have fun

[hollow bloom]

thanks but not much players online today

[ornate carbon]

Still down to raid?

[mortal bronze]

No we didnt try that, we was speeding up on DH discovery soo i can reach Razorback faster to test CC build and figure it out what skills to use, cuz the plan is to complete all the raid with CC build....just completed IH with only CC build

[weak tartan]

how rare is eagle barer?

[swift peak]

10% chance from final raid box, 1% chance from raid bosses first weekly run

For best chance, run with raid regulars on their first run of the week, they may drop one for you

[weak tartan]

finding a group to run with is proving to be quite difficult but thank u anyways

[swift peak]

looks like there's three groups running raids right now

[rugged eagle]

I’m looking for people atm

[swift peak]

just keep an eye on the #lfg-raid-pc channel and the voice channels, jump in voice when there's a space and see if the group are happy for you to join them

[rugged eagle]

Trying to get the FI body armor

[swift peak]

fewer xbox raiders in this discord unfortunately, maybe look around in reddit channels

[tender hollow]

Anyone doing raids ps4?

[long sky]

#lfg-raid-ps4

[coarse vortex]

ANyone doing sherpas for the IH raid? I haven't done it yet, and Im a healer main. Looking to learn it

[fallen epoch]

Do you have a group?

[coarse vortex]

No not currently. I've just been told healing in IH is extremely difficult, and I wasn't sure if someone was willing to show me the ropes, per se

[fallen epoch]

As a first timer you should do DPS, there are some encounters like the second in which the healer has an important role, leaving that to a noob is not the best idea...

[coarse vortex]

Fair enough

[long sky]

Run a standard Dps build so you can watch and learn at same time

[worthy berry]

Tapn

[sacred blaze]

macquentush is my ign

[wispy tundra]

we're trying to do the last regulus quest 'rats gnaw your bones' do any of you know if we have already done the raid before this week that we still get the exotic drops when we do the raid again on the same week?

[hot jolt]

nope

[trail oriole]

You only get the exotic components on a fresh run.

[hot jolt]

except for the final part from the chest

[wispy tundra]

so we have to wait till the next week to get those regulus materials

[hot jolt]

yes

[wispy tundra]

ok ty ty

[trail oriole]

Tuesday, yes.

[tired trench]

Does Dark Hours have exclusive loot?

[vagrant wing]

The EB and some gearsets blueprints, yes

[tired trench]

ty

[tender hollow]

Can some1 explain me how raids works, im lvl 22

[swift peak]

raids are 8-player cooperative missions for endgame players that include mechanics requiring more cooperation between players than the rest of the game's content, but offer exclusive rewards

[tender hollow]

@swift peak difficulty and lvl requirement?

Do i need any DLC?

[swift peak]

you have to be in the endgame (lvl 30 without DLC or 40 with), and they are considered one of the more difficult activities in the game

[tender hollow]

. _.

[swift peak]

if you joined up with a very experienced group of players they could easily carry you through, but most raid leaders prefer the player to be somewhat useful

a good rule of thumb would be if you can handle solo heroic-difficulty content with an all-red build, you should be fine

[tender hollow]

@swift peak thid aint about raids but, how do i manage my equipment y just equip the most protected one and sell or recycle the rest

And is there any type of weapons better for darkzone pvp?

[swift peak]

until you reach the endgame, you'll have to keep changing your gear as you level up, so just sell or dismantle whatever you don't need and keep the best stuff

[tender hollow]

Funny fact i got lvl 22 in a day and idk how to play

[swift peak]

I believe assault rifles are the most-used weapon types in the DZ, but I'm not much of an expert in that area, I don't really go there

[tender hollow]

Oh

[swift peak]

work through the story and learn how to play that way, and I'd recommend getting the DLC if you see it on sale, it adds a LOT to the endgame

[tender hollow]

Oof 9€

Its on sale rn

[swift peak]

yeah I'd say go for it

[tender hollow]

9€ are 9€

What does the DLC adds?

[swift peak]

it raises the max level from 30 to 40, adds a large new open-world area and several missions, and loads of new items, and access to a long-term level progression mechanic (lets you keep gaining levels for small bonuses)

[tender hollow]

More kills, clothing and shit?

[swift peak]

you can gain up to 10% crit chance, 10% accuracy, that sort of thing

[tender hollow]

Oh

[stiff zephyr]

@tender hollow Most of the player base also have the DLC, so if your interested in raids or any coop you more or less need the dlc.

[dull cliff]

You can some of the more stronger builds with the DLC

[sullen hearth]

Health dmg good against shields

[sullen hearth]

^

[sterile bay]

What's a good tutorial to read or watch about what to do on the raids? I've done both on discovery, but was never clear on what everyone needs to do.

[granite cairn]

Others can prob offer more info or links. 1 thing I did was to scroll back in history this channel. Time consuming as a ton of useless chatter, but now and again their were convos around raid builds/tactics/whatever. hth

[vagrant wing]

google is your friend 🙂
for IH tho (written guides) <#td2-raid-discussions message>

i'll add one thing tho - most YT guides are somewhat inaccurate / encourage bad behavior. If you think you have a better way to do a certain encounter than the guide - you're probably right

[sterile bay]

I've googled obviously, but was hoping there might be a tutorial that was recommended. I've no desire to watch 3 hour playthroughs, know what I mean?

[vagrant wing]

do you have a certain raid in mind?

[echo burrow]

Sharkie has good video guides for IH

[vagrant wing]

i know. hence why i asked my previous question

[sterile bay]

Specifically IH. Is sharky a YouTuber?

[vagrant wing]

more of a streamer https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeK6nKsdQbDpMPZH8HujxNg-EV-VvlEWM

[lethal helm]

Hello people...is this the right raid discord to organize one?

[muted horizon]

You're very close, just hop one channel down to #lfg-raid-xbox!

[lethal helm]

Ha..thx

[topaz vine]

yeah, also HS builds are destructive

[snow fossil]

Can anyone explain how the raid(s) work, I really want to do one but I feel I need some explanation first, and the videos kinda suck

[topaz vine]

just do DH in discovery

[snow fossil]

Oki

[topaz vine]

read above, its 8 players end game

you have a basic build for it?

like all red CHC/CHD?

[snow fossil]

Yea pretty much

[topaz vine]

i can help you if you are in need

[snow fossil]

Aren’t you on pc???

[topaz vine]

i am

oh

just saw PS4

well you goal is to have like 50-60 chc/ all the rest is on chd

you have coyote mask?

[snow fossil]

Ye

How many times can I do the raid to try to get eagle bearer

[magic fulcrum]

You have an %88 chance of getting it

[snow fossil]

88% or 8.8%

[magic fulcrum]

88

[snow fossil]

Wow

[magic fulcrum]

Each person has a chance to get it

Individually its 10% each

And 1% from the bosses

[snow fossil]

Does discovery node drop it?

[magic fulcrum]

Nope

It wont give you anything but random loot

[snow fossil]

Darn

[magic fulcrum]

And half the mechanics are in discovery too

[snow fossil]

Welp

Guess I’m doing the normal difficulty then

[topaz vine]

better

[topaz vine]

0.88?

[magic fulcrum]

88% chance

but its divided between all 8 of the team

[topaz vine]

so its 11%

[magic fulcrum]

yes

10% crate chance 1% boss chance

[topaz vine]

i did it so many times and it dropped twice

i got you

still odds are odds... did DH like 25 times-seen EB dropped twice

did IH 10 times last 2 i got it myself back to back

the ravenous

[civic dagger]

probability doesn't work like this fam it's like 68.8%

for any one member to get at least one in the squad, assuming all members on the squad are doing it for the first time in the week and get enough keys to open box

[rough locust]

It’s more like 0.000000001% - for me anyways it feels like that. Same goes for the Ravenous. That thing NEVER drops for me no matter what.

[rough locust]

I’ve done DH just over 130 times, only had maybe 6 EBs drop. 100+ runs of IH and not a SINGLE Rav out the box yet to give to someone else.

[frigid hearth]

Do you guys know when you face morozova in IH, at phase 3, when you have to shoot the mini turrets to stop shooting your allies? My clanmates saying "when they are green" but i cannot see anything green from them 😄 maybe somebody have a pic or video?

[signal basin]

You should see green lasers targeting. Don’t worry about the turrets, throw decoys out and they’ll take the aggro so rockets can be shot at the bullet. As soon as the rocket is down, you’re done with the phase. Same with the fourth phase, except the mini gun will take care of the mini turrets.

[frigid hearth]

@signal basini was a door man with shotgun at thr right side, and a new guy in the sniper duty, but our healer kept complaining about the turrets killing him, so that's why i thought something went wrong - noone used decoys though

[signal basin]

Healer should stay in cover. Throw the hive on one side, cover the other with chems. I’ve stayed on the truck on the left side when healing. Decoys work great.

[rough locust]

Decoys are your best friend

[frigid hearth]

@rough locustMy clanleader says they are crap, so we never used it 😄

[rough locust]

Lolol - just stick one on and try it yourself - they do sometimes bug out but what doesn’t in this game 🤣

[frigid hearth]

@rough locustwhich spot would you use it at morozova?

[rough locust]

I’ve used decoys when doing either door for ad spawn control or when doing rockets; you just chuck the decoy towards the middle somewhere. The decoys can also help with the mortars sometimes I’ve found

[signal basin]

Same ^

[dim wharf]

With this logic every 10 attempts at the box you have 100% chance of getting it, which is not how probability works. Also this is assuming everyone is on their first run of the week and will all try the box to drop it for you, which doesn't always happen.

[red compass]

Anyone wanna run DH raid today

[west spruce]

@frigid hearth the green laser targeting from Iron Horse is marked on random players. Just stay in cover when you are being targeted for a bit and wait it out and you will be fine.

[valid marlin]

Try in #578577794561474571

[red compass]

I will thank you

[frigid hearth]

Well okay, one of our task is to shoot the snipers and the turrets when they are green... guess it's just our own method then, which is not necessary... thanks

[west spruce]

@frigid hearth Shooting the green laser does nothing to it, it's a timed mechanic which will go away on its own. But you can definitely clear out the snipers on 3rd phase.

[frigid hearth]

@west spruceso to sum it up, you don't have to care, and can't do anything with those mini turrets - just the players needs to be in cover who is being targeted?

[west spruce]

yeah, I mean you can stand up straight and tank the hits if you feel like if you are a tank with bulwark shield, but pretty much just be in cover to wait it out will do

[rough locust]

It took me a while to realise that shooting the green lasers did nothing to stop them from firing

[west spruce]

Game dev had validated that's the case on Twitter, so shooting them does nothing

[tawdry widget]

Green lasers on IH are a good analogy on how fake news work, someone, on day one of IH being released thought the lasers would go away if you shot at them. He started saying that to other people (not maliciously, just thought it was the case), more than one year later, even after it being proven wrong, there's still people out there that think you need to shoot them. ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

[rough locust]

I was told to shoot them when I first started doing IH and was being shown the ropes - wasn’t until around my 10th run did someone else say the lasers are unaffected by you shooting at them. I wouldn’t be surprised if the person who told me to shoot the lasers is STILL telling other people to do the same.

[swift peak]

it's best with things that are entirely random - people assign all sorts of 'causes' based on their experience, which actually have nothing to do with the effect. The marauder drone delta bug a month or two ago was a good example, so many people giving crazy causes to something that was, as far as I could tell, entirely random

natural human tendency to look for patterns and believe/create them where there are none

[tawdry widget]

Yep

[rough locust]

It’s like being superstitious and shooting the boxes at the end of a raid run with specialisation ammo thinking it would improve the chances of exos dropping when opening the boxes 🤣

[frigid hearth]

can you find me that tweet?

[mild latch]

Hello

[stiff zephyr]

Hi

[mild latch]

I need active clan and group for raid

I am 800+ lvl

[stiff zephyr]

Just use #lfg-raid-pc most clan raids are worse with more inexperienced to experienced. + some are using outdated methods. Honestly lfg is better

[frigid hearth]

also there is a #td2-clan-recruitment room

[mild latch]

Thank you 🙂

[long sky]

Only thing a clan is truly good for is clan vendor

[vagrant wing]

Talk to @placid raven

[west spruce]

@frigid hearth https://twitter.com/xWormer/status/1293594275888979968

[frigid hearth]

thx!

[rough locust]

Raids and legendaries can be fun with a clan

[tender stag]

is there any surefire way to draw aggro to the kiters for the boomer fight

[rough locust]

Don’t let anyone use any kind of drones - Boomer goes after them quite quick. I think other than that just have the kiter break boomer’s chest as often as possible.

[dull cliff]

Stay close to him and shoot at his chest

No one else should be shooting him unless he goes down or your using the Negotiators Strat, which in that case shoot his feet

[tender stag]

so its not guaranteed?

[tawdry widget]

It's guaranteed that he'll stay with the kiter / turret players if no one else is shooting him when he's immune.

[tender stag]

is there anyway to guarantee him switching aggro?
from turret to kiter that is

[dull cliff]

Not really anyway to guarantee but shooting his chest can work

[dim wharf]

Breaking his chest will get his agro, so make sure the kiter is the one to do it. Shooting his backpack will also draw some agro and can, but not always, switch his target.

Outside that, you can run a sticky bomb and draw the agro on of any raid boss by just sticking them with it, you don't even need to set it off. Emp sticky has the lowest cooldown so most use that.

Sustained shooting and general proximity will also draw a small amount of agro, which is why people say not to shoot boomer when it's not needed and to keep skills from targeting him.

[tender stag]

idk if i was doing it incorrectly or it just wasnt working, but breaking his chest wouldnt guarantee the aggro being exchanged

good to know about the sticky bomb though, thanks for that

you referred to aggro in amounts, so would it be safe to assume that aggro works somewhat like a meter or amount you have to reach in order to draw aggro

[rough locust]

Aggro seems to be random I find but certain things do tend to draw aggro more than other things

[dim wharf]

I'm not sure it's exactly like an invisible meter per say, but there's some underlying system to it that's not strictly random.

[verbal mist]

If other players are too close to boomer it will cause him to agro on them possibly . Also players think they are doing good to shoot boomer which also causes agro to change . If you only shoot him in the face and get close he will follow you .

[dull cliff]

Not sure if it counts for raid bosses but certain weapon variants draw the most aggro

[rough locust]

I find using the Ravenous tends to get ALL the aggro from all ads in a particular area lol

[velvet gust]

not sure if any other raid groups have been seeing this, but we had some SLOW/nonexistent rocket spawns for 2 attempts on IH last boss today. we got to the point where we were calling out rocket spawns / shots

and first two attempts, didn't see anyone shooting rocket at exact same time either

[rough locust]

Yeah it’s a common problem not seeing the rocket guys spawn or spawn both at one side. If they don’t spawn you have to wipe and start again.

[velvet gust]

ahhh got it

[vagrant wing]

it's not shooting the rockets at the exact same time that (believed) to cause the bug, it's hitting both rockets at the shell/turret at the exact same time. there's a difference

[mortal bronze]

some ppl they was thinking solo tarmac and put Bommer on his knees is imposible (maybe with luck i can put him 2 times for each turret) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC5Okhysg8w

[tender hollow]

can some1 explain me how to join a raid or what to do

never done 1

[dim wharf]

If you just wait for someone to directly invite you, you'll probably be waiting forever. just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss.

[west glacier]

Ayo can someone explain how rhe bosses work in the dark hours raid?

[crude sonnet]

It's best if you wiki it, there is a lot of things to do

Or just do one and tell them that you are new, they might be nice enough to hold your hand and walk you through it

Unless it is a KWTD group (know what to do) then nope

[west glacier]

That for the advice, also what is the difficulty difference between story dark hours and normal dark hours?

When I did story with random it wasn't all that hard

[fringe thunder]

you dont get exotic on discovery only normal

[long sky]

and it gets a lot ahrder

[crude onyx]

I would say same like difference between challenging to heroic with directives

[undone turret]

discovery is extremely watered down >.<

[strange loom]

Complete DH Raid Guide first half

First boss: everyone runs dps and maybe have one dedicated slightly tanky kiter. Shoot defense towers with turret to start encounter turret 41 and 45 shoot the back ones first at around the same time. boomer comes out and you need to shoot him with a turret when the kiter (the person who grabs Boomers agro) brings him in front of the turrets so they can shoot the backpack with the turret . Have 4 people in the middle ready to press computers and one person on the outside who will be dedicated to calling which computers need to be cancled the ones that light up blue on the TVs in the middle. when boomer goes down from turret everyone dps's him in the head. You can use a scorpio if you want where you prep him with 5 shots and then when he starts getting back up you shoot him with the 6th and he gets shocked allowing for another dps phase. Rince and repeat and rotate from turret 45 to 41 to 45 until he is dead.
2nd boss, you need 1 healer with future intiative who goes with the 6 other dps players on b and then you need 1 protection from elite guy on A side. one person calls which computer is green and then the other has to press the corresponding computer so for example if the green computer is the middle computer the person on the green computers side says middle 3, 2, 1 press and then the guy on the other side presses the middle computer. This starts the encounter. From here the green screen will swich side and the person on its side will have to call it again and start a countdown when Ricochet is at 2-3 bars, both players press the computers and then hopefully ricochet gets killed pretty soon after. From here prioritize dps on Dizzy, once he is dead you then damage Weazel in the orange gas phases and hide in the purple gas phases and try not to take damage. Healer should also try and overcharge with btsu gloves as soon as Weazel and Ricochet come out.
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Complete DH Raid Guide, 3rd Boss

3rd boss, You will need 1 healer with future intiative and the rest dps. I have found this boss is done the easiest using one of the two ways below....

Method 1: Ping Pong, ping pong is where you and your team damage buddy from close to where you entered the room until his armour goes outside the rectangle they will then go to the middle to do their deadly overcharge. To stop their overcharge, damage Lucy until her armour gets to roughly the same as Buddies. Rince and repeat this until they are both at 1-2 bars. From here everyone focuses Buddy until he dies and then all you have to do is kill Lucy and the bosses are finished.

Method 2: Server Room strat, this method is where you will have 3 players, 2 dps with pgc and 2 Bullet Kings or ARs 1 healer which grabs lucys agro and goes into the server room on the right where there will be a server box where the 2 dps can stand on so they can dodge lucys spin and stop it from effecting the other players damaging Buddy and can continue to damage her with no fuss. The healer can take cover from behind one of the benches in the server room. and can heal themselves and the dps ontop of the server. There will be 5 other players who will damage buddy in the room on the left from where you come in from, they can use a Scorpio, Bullet Kingsor AR. Their job is to damage Buddy down keeping his health the same with Lucys. Once they get to 1-2 bars the 5dps players will kill buddy and then the 2dps will kill lucy straight after then the bosses are finished.

Complete DH Raid Guide, Final Boss, Razorback

For this Boss you will need a Hardwire Jammer and 7 other dps players. preferably at least 2 with crossbows and 2 with the demo specialization .This boss consists of 2 different primary spots, the 'in' spots (circles) and the "out" spots (turrets). When you jump down onto the tarmac clear the ads and no one is to step in the circles yet. The reason for this is that stepping in the circles will cause the encounter to start and spawn a pair of elite ads at each numbered turret.

There will be a counter who will do a countdown of when to step in the circles. The counter will normally be the jammer who will be an inside player on usually circle 4. You will need 3 other players in the circles. Circles 1 and 2 will need players who are using the crossbow specialization to shoot the vent so it opens instantly circle 3 will have another dps player with a concussion grenade or demo specialization. The outside people should all be running dps builds. The outside people's jobs are too stop the chungas from wiping the entire raid group, to clear the adds and to help clear the weakpoints on their sides of the razorback.
The inside people's jobs are too step in the circles all at the same time on the jammers call and to shoot a crossbow bolt at the vent and then throw a concussion grenade or shoot a demo nade in the vent. You have to stay inside the circle the whole time while doing that. the Razorback will then open up and the side with the most dps, (usually the back) will break their weakpoints and expose the health of Razorback whilst the other side (the front) are prepping their side by destroying one weakpoint and then leaving the other one at low hp. This is important as only one side should be opened up at one time. you can only do 25% damage to razorback per phase. assuming you do 25% damage that phase. There will be 2 missiles that launch at every player 1 set and then the other set a second later.

From here you wait until the chungas come out before the jammer calls the circles again. Once the chungas are taken down, the jammer can then call the circles. It is then rinse and repeat until the back part of the Razorback has been destroyed. After the back is destroyed the next time you open up the truck the front should be prepped and ready to be gunned down. The circle players from 2 and 3 will come to the front part of the truck and shoot the front weak points. Rinse and repeat until the front is destroyed and the Razorback has only a slither of health left. From here everyone runs to their corners, so for e.g. 1 inside will run to the number 1 turret and that goes for every other player. The consoles on the turret will then light up and as they do make sure to destroy them so you do not wipe at the very end. After all 4 turrets have been taken down Razorback is deafeated and you have successfully completed the raid.

[tawdry widget]

This is so confusing ... just join a raid group, explain you've never done it and do it. It's easier.

[muted horizon]

dear lord, that is one epic text drop.

I do love the people that post guides in here, knowing that they'll be off the screen within an hour.

[tawdry widget]

And full of misleading stuff too... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull cliff]

There's quite a few ways to run it as well, it always comes down to what the Raid leader is willing to do

[muted horizon]

I'd ignore that big reply you got. Just go for a proven guide, not something some random posted.

[tawdry widget]

"Method 2: Server Room strat, this method is where you will have 3 players, 2 dps with 2 Bullet Kings or a Scorpio and a Bullet King."

Just no.

[strange loom]

thanks for letting me know it was not good, I made it a while ago and instead of 1 scorpio and bullet king both players should be running pgc if possible and using ARs or bullet kings standing on top of the server.

[tawdry widget]

It's not that it's not good, it's just not "that" good. I'd stay away from bullet king period. There are definitely plenty of ways of doing every encounter, in both raids, B&L standing up on servers with bullet kings "to avoid spins", personally is on my list of "I'm out". It's cheesing it in an unnecessary way. 8 dps players, look at the bars, kill them at the same time.

[strange loom]

yes it is quite cheasy but if you have new players in the raid it might just help to have a bit of an edge on B&L as it can be difficult for some lfgs

at the end of the day it is preference what you decide to do on that boss

[tawdry widget]

Cheesing it will keep "bad players" (aka players that don't understand how the encounter works) "bad". They won't learn how to do it or what are the mechanics behind it.

[strange loom]

and I have listed 2 ways incase ppl don't want to do the cheese

[tawdry widget]

Sure.

[strange loom]

well they still have to take into the account of the health which is the primary mechanic of that boss

[tawdry widget]

I'd say that what I least like about your guide is that you didn't really explain the mechanics behind the bosses, you tried to explain methods of defeating them. Which gets both confusing and biased towards "a way" you do them.

The B&L methods you described are just an example of that.

[strange loom]

yes well its supposed to be a guide not really an in-depth explanation of the mechanics behind every boss. I didn't rly feel like writing 5000+ words for some guide not many will read

but If I had the persistence to do so I would try (:

[tawdry widget]

In my mind, explaining the mechanics takes less effort than explaining a way of doing it, though.

Example for B&L: Two mechanical dogs, both have to be killed at the same rate. If one has his health below the other, they will overcharge. Lucy will spin her turret, killing everyone that isn't in cover, Buddy will throw seeker mines to take players out of cover. If they overcharge and start running to the middle, they'll heal while Lucy also spins her turret and Buddy throws his seeker mines.

[rough locust]

You’d be surprised how many times I’ve seen people use bullet kings in the raids - it’s sad really 🤣

[rough locust]

I just all out with my M1A CQB and Regulus - or even the Rav sometimes. Bullet King? No chance

[stone magnet]

Do you have to get all the keys again if you've done it before on IH?

[swift peak]

only if you want to open the final chest

[stone magnet]

Is the final box worthwhile after the first time?

[swift peak]

well, if you got the Ravenous first time it'll give you a go at getting another (either to keep & reroll or share with a less fortunate player), plus the other random loot might be useful - especially if it includes FB or FI chests/backpacks

[stone magnet]

Yeah I'm missing a few of the Gear Sets; I got charity'd a Ravenous on my first time so it'd be cool to offer the same courtesy to someone else

Alright thanks for the help

[swift peak]

np

[stone magnet]

I know IH has FI and FB sets as well as Ravenous/Regulus, but what does the DH raid have?

[swift peak]

it has blueprints for a couple of sets, (A&E and another, IIRC) but you can get the actual pieces outside the raid (I don't think it started that way, but they moved those sets outside of the raid after some time - I'm going by hearsay though, wasn't around at the time). EB is the only exclusive item now.

[signal basin]

Negotiators and Tip of the Spear are the other blueprints

[vagrant wing]

yay!

[spring prism]

@shut cedar type your ign here please

[thorny bison]

I see you put a bunch of effort into this. Great work. I would just like to make a couple of suggestions.

Boss 1. Rather than having 4 people in the middle with one caller, it's better to have 1 person at each door (burger, 40, donut, 43, 44) so ads don't leak. The 5th person should be a FI healer for the damage buff, survivability, and the double downs. One of the kites can call computers (and they can both wear glass Cannon since you'll have a healer.

Boss 2: 4 on each side is better since you can take damage off of dizzy at the same time. Kill the Boss that has orange gas immediately after the switch to get no gas on the side that you spawn the boss. Don't let the gas get to 20 stacks or you'll struggle to switch computers.
Boss 3: what @tawdry widget said.
Boss 4:I'm too lazy for the whole thing but it's better for the jammer to run the crossbow.

[strange loom]

thank you for the feedback! 😄

[rough locust]

Glass cannon when kiting is a sure fire way to get one tapped to the floor lol - unbreakable would work better on the off chance you lose your armour.

[thorny bison]

Not if you kite properly. Also the more DPS the kites have, the less the door people have to shoot boomer which gives better ad control.

[rough locust]

Isn’t that the job of the door people, to stop anything and everything coming out of them in the first place? If I’m kiting, I’m focussing on Boomer and not on the ads

Each to their own though - you wanna kite with glass cannon, go for it

Even seen people using tank builds to kite boomer which baffles me lol

[thorny bison]

That's my point. Door people can focus their doors at all time (except computers) rather than have to turn and shoot. It's not as easy to get 2 bars off of boomer without glass. Don't knock it till you've tried it 🤣🤣

Humor me. Why does it baffle you when they use tank builds?

[tawdry widget]

Way before IH, way before healer or tank builds were a thing, people were already running DH with much success. Talking about needing a healer or a tank in DH, to me, is just lazy. Sure, you can get the Future Initiative buff which helps everyone's DPS, but in that case, do a red Future Initiative. DH is, all and all, just a DPS check, might as well use DPS.

[rough locust]

Just does - although I’ve seen the healer kite which works really well

[rough locust]

Oh I’ve tried glass cannon kiting - not a fan - much prefer doing ad control with glass cannon and negotiator’s - gets more use out of it that way

[rough locust]

If you run with a team that’s 100% experienced, I agree you don’t need a tank or healer - if you run with people that have never done it and are experiencing it for the first time, it can be a bit more daunting for them and you want to make it so the run can go as smooth as possible.

[rigid onyx]

Red FI OP 👀

[rough locust]

I got to try that build

[dim wharf]

Red FI + memento is the perfect lfg boomer kiting build

[thorny bison]

5 dps on doors. 2 kiters running glass? What do you need another red build for? I mean you only get the buff if at full armor anyway.

Ah you're saying in general. Sure you don't NEED a FI healer, but imo it's just more efficient with one.

[tawdry widget]

Yes, in general

5 doors, 2 turrets, 1 kiter

the 2 turrets and kiters can change between themselves depending on aggro

you don't need the red FI, it's nice to have, but not needed, it's just an argument in case someone mentions that a healer is a must because of the buff

[thorny bison]

Well the buff only happens at full armor which a yellow FI can assist with right? They can also overcharge

[vagrant wing]

replace that healer with 2-3 ND players for max efficiency 🙂

[tawdry widget]

Yes, he can assist with that, but, again, it can easily be done without one ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thorny bison]

Why not both? 👀👀👀

[rigid onyx]

Just 1 shot boomer, ez fix XD

[vagrant wing]

easy huh? how many times did you wipe for not getting crits? 😉

[rigid onyx]

Toxiccccc 😂

[rough locust]

Or have the whole team running NDs lol

[rough locust]

Best strat - just a pain to get going lol

[vagrant wing]

there's diminishing return above 4 ND players ish (there're not a lot of adds, the the dmg on Boomer when he's kneeling suffers)

[rough locust]

The damage on kneeling with ND does suffer but is made up with the damage on ad control - love it when the ad control is on point

[dim wharf]

The whole point of running ND on boomer is because the shared damage hits boomer while he's running around immune

[viscid fossil]

yeah but only crits transfers you really only do 1 and a half bars per nd if your lucky. your dps on boomer does 2 bars. like if you did 8 nd then you are only achieving 3 bars max because you only get 6 adds per door not to mention you are only transferring the amount of health each add has and to maximise you need to crit 100%

[rigid onyx]

Diamondback

😁

[rough locust]

I know - perfect build to multitask

[rough locust]

Virginian - that Perfect Boomerang DESTROYS on ND builds

[rigid onyx]

Diamondback = 100% CHC so no damage is lost 🙂

[vagrant wing]

well... if ppl know how to use it - that is

[rigid onyx]

True

[stiff zephyr]

I've honestly never used it, I'm not ashamed to say that

[rigid onyx]

😧

[rough locust]

On marked targets however - plus 5 shots then having to reload is a chore lol

[rigid onyx]

I would agree on most circumstances, luckily for boomer you only have to deal with 3 adds max per section (donut 40) so it is manageable. Outside of that definitely a chore.

Very cool concept for a gun however. A very nice balance of “maintaining” a mechanic for a very good reward. We need to see more exotics with that relationship.

[vagrant wing]

On marked targets however
not 'just' marked targets. if you hit a marked target you get 10s of guaranteed chd shots on every target hence why it's so powerful for that encounter. But as Astro said - it requires some managing and paying attention

[grave obsidian]

Im looking to join a raid, Dark Hours or Iron Horse.

[rigid onyx]

#lfg-raid-pc

That dedicated Looking For Group (LFG) channel should help you find a team 🙂

[idle pond]

we are doing IH if your still looking

[boreal lantern]

I need eagle bearer so bad

[spring prism]

ive gone to basically every single forum post, every youtube video i can find, and whatever i do, i cant get these stupid doors to open on raid start... i do what they tell me to do, with different guides, and none of them work... is there a thing that prevents me from doing the glitch? :/

[gusty willow]

It doesn't for everyone and for every character. I can do it on my primary character without a problem but can't get it secondary characters unless I'm having a full group and not even then it's guaranteed.

[spring prism]

thats a pain

[vagrant wing]

To elaborate a bit on Jimmy's post - it's a bug for certain characters (even on the same account). As far as I'm aware no one knows what causes the bug or how to replicate it. All those guides out there are pretty much useless as a bugged char can do it either way...

On a personal note: unless you're a speedrunner with a decent time (sub 19 ish) you probably don't need/want it.
It'll cause confusion for new players/teach them bad habits, and if you're an exp player (which i think you are) and want a better time - you can get a decent one without it

[rigid onyx]

Indeed

We attempted to compile information to try and find the root cause of it, sadly we had no success.

[tender stag]

just curious
what are peoples opinions on resetting raid records when stuff gets patched or maybe every league/season/few months

[rigid onyx]

A good thing and needs to exist as the game/meta/bugs always changes.

[tender stag]

oh no not you

one day

im coming for that record

[rigid onyx]

❤️

[tender stag]

good shit btw

[rigid onyx]

Thank you!

Are you interested in speedrunning?

[tender stag]

a little bit

[rigid onyx]

In that case check ya DMs

[rough locust]

It's not him - not THE Astro surely........?

[rigid onyx]

👀

[rough locust]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm............

[vagrant wing]

well he does have not && astro as his username - so who knows!? 😉

[rigid onyx]

[spring prism]

so, this is the thrid time ive seen this bug happen in ironhorse. its not a good bug. it happened to me twice, and when someone replaced me, it happened to them too. the bug in question is regulus not doing anything on boss 1. each time we made sure the holster was fully charged, and made sure to hit the right target, at the right time, and then.... nothing.... so yeah, idk whats going on, but it sure makes your entire team very frustrated, and it makes you lok like an idiot who doesn tknow how to raid

[gusty willow]

What do you mean by nothing? Didn't die or no explosion?

[spring prism]

both

they dont die AND no explosion

[gusty willow]

Missing FI? Or vigi for that matter

Or wrong chests talent could be a lot of reasons

[spring prism]

no, were not missing

[rough locust]

Are you using scanner pulses on the boss and trying to achilles him with a full charged Regulus?

If so the scanner pulse messes up the Achilles somehow

Plus non crits on the boss are pretty weak overall, just have to hope for a crit

[spring prism]

no, this is on the 3 shields

like, doing the boss normally

[rough locust]

Ah you mean you're trying to Regulus explode the 3 shield guys? They have an immunity phase you have to wait for to come off before slapping them in the head.

[spring prism]

yes, we know

[rough locust]

Ok then I don't know what else the issue could be

[spring prism]

as i said, a bug is the most plausible answer

[rigid onyx]

Those guys have a funny hit box, make sure you are standing on the right side of them to take the shot onto the front one with regulus. Overcharged foam helps a ton here also.

[rough locust]

I think he's saying it could be a bullet registration glitch / issue he might've had

[rigid onyx]

Hmm, I’ve taken that shot many times and have never had a bullet registration issues with regulus. My assumption is the hit box of the shield is eating your bullet.

Hard to know without seeing it though

[rough locust]

Only times I've not managed to do it is that damn immunity phase - got it down now though after seeing the point it disappear

[tender hollow]

Taking the shot from the left has weird hitbox reg. Right side is alot easier as Astro said.
Foaming and listening to the voice line helps alot.

[spring prism]

as i said, we were doing everything right from the get-go, it just happened, and on 2 different raids too, and to more than 1 person

[tender hollow]

Hitboxes in the shield's themself also have a weird hit reg. If NPCs are about to turn. The shield hitbox actually blockes the shot a little early compared to the movement Animation

[verbal mist]

Always shoot all rounds from regulus and reload as well as pulse prior to boss fight . I do this on dh on the way to each fight .

[bronze geode]

@mild wing im down to join

[craggy star]

can you open the raid crate anytime after completing the raid?

[signal basin]

You can open it until you leave the raid server.

[dim wharf]

What is this supposed to do? Never heard any of this?

[paper charm]

Activate the floating damage numbers and check what the Regulus actually did. As somebody noted, there is an immunity phase (you will see "Immune" as damage number), which depends on your server latency. I typically wait for 1/2 second after the immunity is supposedly gone.

[paper charm]

Yeah. This is totally unnecessary for the Regulus shot. I think the claim from the context above is this somehow improves the Regulus shot on the shield guys.

[echo burrow]

How?

Just sounds like unnecessary to me

[spring prism]

i guess you didnt read my original message then...

the immunity phase was over

and the damage numbers showed nothing. and yet we hit the head right on.

keep in mind: this was in 2 seperate raids, woth 2 seperate groups of people

[paper charm]

I did it, don't assume. I tried to explain that the actual immunity is latency dependent. And as far as I did the shot (somewhere around 100x) it shows a number or "Immune."

My group sometimes tell new players to foam twice, to make sure they don't shoot during the 1/2 second when there is latency effect.

[verbal mist]

This happens frequently in DH. I have no idea why but reloading it and pulsing fixes the problem . Its happened in IH as well to us.

[verbal mist]

Thats not true at all. It doesnt improve anything . It will literally glitch out and do zero damage. For reassurance i always reload it and pulse prior to using it for first time in raids

[rigid onyx]

Hmm never have had this happen

[tough trench]

is anyone putting down hives or traps down there? I've seen that those sometimes messes up with the shoot ( not at the point of not registering damage but...), now i just ask for not dropping things close to the shields just in case.

And maybe a "second" regulus guy just in case would be a good option.

[rough locust]

Always good to have a backup! I try to make sure we have at least two people with the one shot Regulus build on - just in case

[spring temple]

Id really like to do a Raid. Never done one. Want that Eagle B

[spring temple]

Anyone got room for an extra for a raid

[spiral seal]

Hello, I'm not new to Division (watch level 1200+) but completely new to Discord and never done a Raid. Just wondering - how do I use this to do a Raid? Do I just join an available Raid Voice Channel, befriend the leader on UPlay and wait for an invitation? Do I need to keep Discord open and use the Game Overlay function?

As a newb to Raids, what build should I turn up with? I followed Youtube advice and have a 6 Red, 54 CHC, 155 CHD...

Honestly a little intimidated by the complexity and teamwork required to do a Raid with strangers.

[rustic fulcrum]

yes except that last part, you keep it open to stay on the call, but you dont necessarily need to see the call

[dim wharf]

If you just wait for someone to directly invite you, you'll probably be waiting forever. just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss.

That build will work just fine, it's what everyone will be looking for. This community is really solid and has no problem teaching new players

[spiral seal]

Thanks! Also... How long does it take to complete a raid? Assuming I'm a newbie but others are not?

[echo burrow]

Really depends on team. But normally DH 30 to 40m and IH 45 to 1h

[spiral seal]

Thanks

[long sky]

Dh is DPS mechanics, IH has multiple types of mechanics

If doing ih learn the dps spots 1st then move to healer or key/stagger tank,and if your a good sniper go for head hunter

[umbral yacht]

@modest thistle

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897419405435219969/901545114810327090/cogs.png

[long sky]

👍 💯 😀

[proud charm]

Looking for 7 on PC to run raid. Always on between 4-11pm

[narrow sleet]

#578577794561474571

[spring prism]

@tawdry lakei didnt recieve anything

yes

[naive carbon]

anyone want to do a raid im trying to get the eagle bearer

i dont care about mics or anything i just want to get it done

[normal mirage]

Do you know what to do?

[naive carbon]

i havent done one before

[paper charm]

It is much better to have microphones, though. Unless the group is really good, it is easy to wipe on Razorback if somebody needs help but is quiet.

[muted horizon]

Mics can make it easier, but are by no means required.
Honestly, the only one that should have a Mic is the Raid Leader, and even that is optional if you're not bringing along a newb.

[paper charm]

I have seen those (raid leader without microphone)… it was not pretty. Having microphones really depends on the proficiency level. FTC without a microphone, I doubt that is a healthy recommendation.

[muted horizon]

Hence why I used the term "should".
But as someone incapable of using one, there are methods around it.

[dim wharf]

For a new player, they are expected.

[dim wharf]

If you just wait for someone to directly invite you, you'll probably be waiting forever. Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss.

[naive carbon]

Okay thanks heaps

[muted horizon]

Are you trying to say that a new player needs a mic?

[dim wharf]

Yes

[muted horizon]

You are welcome to your opinion, but it's just not true.
All you need to do as a new player is 2 things:

1. have a decent Red DPS build.
2. listen to your Raid Leader.

Speaking as someone who's never used a mic in a Raid, it is 100% possible to learn without one.

[spring prism]

agreed. you dont need a mic, especially if your raid leader reads the chat. sadly, not everyone reads the ingame chat so your questions might not be answered, but a mic is 300% not necessary.

on a side note, finally got back my lost dodge city

[muted horizon]

nice! I have a soft-spot for that Exotic, it's a lot of fun.

[spring prism]

yeah

i accidentally deconstructed my god-roll one so now i have it back :3

[muted horizon]

I do miss the original one, would've been fun to run in Raids.

[bright needle]

Super keen to try IH sometime soon. I’ve done the DH once

[muted horizon]

It's more complex, but not all that tough if you watch/read a guide.
once that happens, just let the folks down in #lfg-raid-pc know you're new. gl Agent.

[gusty willow]

Of course you don't need mic BUT from my experience FTC's without a mic usually don't listen either + it's not that hard to use discord on phone and use your cheap headphones you got with your phone

[long sky]

@muted horizon use dodge city and regulos and you can watch people disappear or just fly away

[rigid onyx]

dodge city rn lets you 1 shot all the bosses tho XD

achilles = best skill in game, change my mind

[muted horizon]

As I said before, some people are not able to use mics for one reason or another.
hence this whole conversation.

[muted horizon]

ah, but remember the insta-reloads? Imagine the DPS we could get these days using that!

[gusty willow]

Very small amount of people have actual reason for not using mics

[rigid onyx]

Who needs DPS when you just need 1 bullet

[muted horizon]

I mean yeah, only a small % of people can't, but I'm very clearly speaking from their perspective here.

[gusty willow]

And I'm very clearly speaking about that other % that refuses to use mics

[rigid onyx]

My 2 cents on mics - not required, but recommend. Some teams may not want to run with you as well if you don’t have a mic especially if it is your first time, which is okay. Overall it will help you massively to use a mic to communicate and learn efficiently.

[muted horizon]

What's the big issue here? People can choose not to use them. They'll just find a group that lets them in.

[rigid onyx]

Especially for Iron Horse

[muted horizon]

Every single time mics are brought up it devolves into this. Like clockwork.

[dim wharf]

Everyone saying you need a mic and you disagreeing with everyone?

It's not like you can't get by without one, but it clearly helps everyone. It's like having a decent build, you can still be carried, but it's part of doing your share

[muted horizon]

I feel like my message of "i'm speaking from the perspective of people who find it hard/physically can't use one" is getting missed here.
Yes using one helps, but it's not mandatory. That's all I'm saying.

[gusty willow]

🤔

[dim wharf]

This is clearly not what you've been saying.

[echo burrow]

Repair trap

Iceman won't have to make like a tree anymore

[rigid onyx]

So.....Much.......Cap

[rigid onyx]

LMAO

[muted horizon]

I'm glad you can read minds, really makes my day so much easier.

Now let's drop this before it goes further.

[strange loom]

need eb and ravenous need help with raids

[gusty willow]

Hey hey easy there. That's my line

[paper charm]

I will say this: If someone has an actual disability, and can use a physical keyboard at a decent WPM, then it can be easily accommodated. But then there are mic-less console players insisting at typing with their slow-a** gamepad/controller...

[strange loom]

LOL

[echo burrow]

I do mute control room sometimes and find myself typing out faster than some people taking 5 seconds to say it

[paper charm]

I can believe that on PC mic-less players can type decently. But on consoles none of the mic-less players I ever encountered have a proper keyboard. The Venn diagram of people can't be bothered having a mic 100% contains those without a USB/BT keyboard (which is rare to begin with, especially on Playstation). And the Playstation on screen keyboard in Division has to be cursored-selected with every letter. I will challenge anybody typing even "bk hk" with a Playstation controller in 5 seconds.

[echo burrow]

Ye I understand

[muted horizon]

Exactly! Not to put too fine a point on it, but there's a reason I use the term "can't" rather than "won't" in regards to mics.

put it down to years of practice, but I can easily get my point out mid-fight without much hassle, us no-mics tend to be good typers :p

[dim wharf]

Still not done?

[paper charm]

Sorry @dim wharf

[muted horizon]

No need to apologise to people for having a conversation relevant to the channel you're in.

it's not antagonistic, or rude to someone else. And It's actually a topic I rarely (if ever) get to see brought up.

[dim wharf]

So if your not done, care to explain this statement?

[vagrant wing]

relax ppl. lets settle at this - the entire group (or the raid leader, whatever you prefer) should decide whether or not they're willing to take such person.

[normal mirage]

Ppl arguing about mic vs no mic but no one talking about Morse code via bullet king smh

[gusty willow]

Damn now I know how I'll give codes to control room next time. Thanks Richie!

[verbal mist]

Morse code … ….. .. . … this means a up b down

[somber badger]

guys - why exactly do ppl go to dark hours? is there some specific loot or is it just for fun? 🙂

[sullen hearth]

Beagler exotic, plus its fun

[muted horizon]

Even after you get the Eagle Bearer AR, the bosses can drop Gearset BPs that are locked to DH, so it's worth going through a few more times.

[somber badger]

gearsets that drop on every corner :/ there is no value in them anymore.
and eagle bearer is good for what exactly? 😄

[long sky]

It's one of the better ars you just have to learn how it works

Plus w DH you get bp trophy

Now IH there's tons of bp trophies and 2 exotics

Plus the ability to get the 4 needed pieces for builds

Doing 1 IH gets you 5 more projects And the last is for the regulos pistol

[hot jolt]

Tenacity allows you to face tank multiple enemies in PVP (and PVE, but I believe it's more useful in places like the DZ). In PVE, I run it because I think it looks neat (though there are certainly ARs that can outperform the EB)

[long sky]

Famas

Plus scorpio shotgun

Wasp if you've never done a raid do DH 1st Then IH and have fun

[somber badger]

ive done it, got beagle. i just dont see how its good.. facetank multiple players in darkzone???? and somehow i dont see the best players running around with them.. confusing..

[long sky]

Most get wrecked because they don't watch there outline once it turns red you have to kill someone to transfer all the damage to the next1 you shoot

[low quiver]

what does RV mean?

[muted horizon]

Yes, the Gearsets are part of Targeted Loot now, however, if you want to Craft Pieces, DH is required.
didn't say it was mandatory, just that it's what you can go back for.

[muted horizon]

Raid Voice, it's the Raid voice channel.
Group Voice (GV) is the same thing but for regular LFGs.

[low quiver]

oh okay

makes sense

are the raids hard?

[muted horizon]

They're (kinda) Heroic level enemies, so if you can handle those, you should be fine.
Just make sure you put together a solid pure DPS build, listen to your Raid Leader, and deffo start with Dark Hours.

[low quiver]

i have a DPS build luckily. im not sure if its good enough

[muted horizon]

I recommend FMJ as a starter to Raids. Good all-rounder for pewpew and is a gateway to understanding how builds work on your own.
you can find a copy of it pinned in #td2-build-advice > spreadsheet > hub tab. Name of the build is "Full Meta Jacket".

[low quiver]

alright

[muted horizon]

dw too much if your stats don't match exactly, as long as you're close to 50% CHC (crit chance), and not below 150% CHD (crit damage), you'll do fine.

[low quiver]

this is my current build

im trying to get good rolls.

upload failed ugh

[muted horizon]

yeah no pics on the server, feel free to PM me or post it to imgur first.

[low quiver]

oh

[somber badger]

full meta jacket? is recommending bad solo builds for raids good?

[tidal bolt]

isn't fmj just the standard all red dps build?

[muted horizon]

is that a joke or do you genuinely think that FMJ is a bad solo build?

because it's not, its really not.

[somber badger]

its much better than 98% builds, thats for sure 🙂

[muted horizon]

I mean for a start, we're talking about teamplay in a Raid here, secondly, FMJ is easily one of the best Heroic clearers.

there's a reason it has "Meta" in the name, some testing has been done lol.

[hot jolt]

Going 1vX for example, especially when you've hit manhunt status (have a look at youtubers that PVP, such as El Patron; you'll notice that he loves it)

[velvet gust]

Heard my name called. I pewpew stuff and this is a great build for DPS, just gotta make sure there’s no more than 3 coyotes.

[muted horizon]

Oh I only recommend FMJ to newbies in a team, after a while you'll find your niche.

actually now that I think about it, just swapping out Coyotes for a different piece will allow you to keep the rest of the build, if you're already getting the buff.

[verbal mist]

I do it because its 8 people and fun for me (sometimes if people listen or a good group)

i have builds for each encounter but my tamac and razor build very similar i just swap weapons. Its 3 prov PGC and Vig, foxes, groupo and gunslinger . I run foam and revive

[potent mason]

Looking for 6 ppl to run raids. @me

[west spruce]

@humble gulch if you aren't doing the first run after reset, the regulus parts will not drop from bosses; except for the 5th part that comes from opening the final chest.

[acoustic bramble]

are you able to farm morozova for keys?

[hot jolt]

Yes

[rough locust]

Better doing the raid from start to finish - least you get to practice everything that way

[timid bronze]

if u miss a key from last raid, can u get the last remaining key again from the same raid #2 run through?

[signal basin]

Yes

[timid bronze]

alright sweet, thanks

[eager quarry]

u guys know how to get open doors glitch in Iron Horse?

[hot jolt]

reset before hosting, although this isn't guaranteed

[eager quarry]

does it matter if the host use non boosted or boosted character?

[hot jolt]

i don't think that's necessarily a factor, but then again, nobody is able to confirm/deny this

[eager quarry]

so its difficult to pulled off, but if u did it there is no guarantee you can do it again?

[vagrant wing]

that's not a factor (a bugged instance can get it without this step, a non bugged won't get it even after this step)

[vagrant wing]

no

[vagrant wing]

as far as we can tell it's a bugged character (note: character! you can have multiple chars on the same account - some of them might be able to get it and some don't). After some extensive testing we weren't manage to nail down the exact cause for that bug. As of now - it's all down to luck. You might be able to get it, but you might not.
If you're able to get it (by yourself! i.e. you started the raid with only you in the group) - you'll be able to get it any time (until they fix it i guess)
However there's more to it. Some chars while can't get it by themselves, if they're in a group that the leader can get it - the doors will remain open.
Some chars - will close the doors for their entire group even if the host can get open doors for himself

i'd say tho - in a speedrunning context you don't need it unless your team has sub 19 ish time.
In an LFG context you sure as hell don't want it as it'll encourage bad habits for new players while won't help that much

[eager quarry]

thank you for your extensive explaination, that's clear up my curiousness.

i have anothe question how do u one shot chungas in morozova phase? i saw people one shot them before they jumped down in my prev raid

[vagrant wing]

there're some special niche builds for it

[eager quarry]

do you mind sharing?

[gusty willow]

simplest one: 3x aces, 1 provi , 1 arialdi , 1 chainkiller(perfect headhunter), also not that niche

[vagrant wing]

there're on vroom vroom 🙂

[muted horizon]

3x Gearset.
raid builds be wild.

[vagrant wing]

*raid speed builds
and yep

[swift peak]

presumably it's still actually a two-shot though (1 to break the helmet, the other to kill)? Or has someone found an unarmoured spot on them like normal black tusk & true sons heavies?

[vagrant wing]

still 2 shots. There's such spot on True sons heavies in the open world (in between his BP and his armor) however it's extremely hard to hit, and i'm not sure raid heavies has the same property

to be exact - the spot i mentioned can be used for the 2nd boss heavies too

[swift peak]

yeah I've found it (by accident, aiming for the weakspot) on the grenade heavies, just wasn't sure if the foam heavies maybe had one too - it's so difficult to reliably hit at any distance though, I'd be impressed if raid speedrunners could do it reliably!

[vagrant wing]

not sure they have it either. Doesn't matter though, most PC speed teams runs 2-3 ish (the 3rd varies) HH players. MOst of them are very good at sniping. You don't need anything else. There's a another method developed by the Japanese speed team which involve the Rav, but i'm not sure how much use it sees nowadays

[rough locust]

Nemesis Headhunter headshot build

[rough locust]

There's one build that uses 4pc future but with the backpack of all things and not the chest - that boggled my mind

[rough locust]

2 shot as you've stated - one to crack - one to kill - both ideally when the chunga initially spawns before the carriage doors even open

[vagrant wing]

what's so weird about it? i assume you're talking about the 2nd healer for the shock (or for faraday strat) if you already have one FI chest why would you need another?

[smoky geyser]

I want to ask , can we jump to the final boss once the raid start?

[signal basin]

Does someone have a checkpoint for the final boss?

[paper charm]

Hey @smoky geyser , you can. The prerequisite is one person saves the boss using a 2nd (same level) character.

[smoky geyser]

Ok got it thanks

[steel crypt]

quick question what does RV... mean? (Never played any raids)

[hot jolt]

raid voice (in other words, the raid voice channel)

[steel crypt]

thx

[hot jolt]

no problem

[rough locust]

It was for the Faraday strat - which I don't get to experience often so was just different as normally the chest piece that's normally used for the FI healer build

[vagrant wing]

again if you're doing full faraday you get 2 healers. 1 with the chest, the other with the BP (as you don't need 2 FI chests). If you're doing 'mini faraday' 1 healer can be enough (although i wouldn't recommend unless you really know what you're doing) - and in that case - the choice is his

[stiff zephyr]

because there is already one member of the team with the chest (outside healer) you don't need the inside healer to run it so they run the FI backpack and empathic chest piece.

With the one healer for mini is ok as long as you have both tarti and pointman and the dps people know how not to stand in mortars, even if the tarti is on a dps guy and you solo tank.

[tender hollow]

I went to try the Raids today... Iron Horse is soooo BS

Fighting that Fieser guy and having to deal with those codes... what a MESS

[gusty willow]

All depends on a group. it's not that hard once you get to know it well

[scarlet coral]

If it were too easy, players would be complaining that there's no challenges in the raid. Figure it out!

[rough locust]

I managed to one shot Fieser the other day - is loads of fun when it works!

[rough locust]

You think THAT fight was a mess? Wait til you get to boss 3 lol

[verbal mist]

Feiser easy compared to boss 3 imho

[rough locust]

Easily - boss 3, even now for me, is a pain to do coz it's on a timer and it makes me tense towards the end (especially if there isn't enough DPS on the boss)

[tender hollow]

can i get the exo guns in discovery mode?

[icy hull]

nope

raid exclusive rewards are only on normal mode.

[rigid onyx]

Just 1 shot fieser, ez fix

[rough locust]

One shot williams? Or that not possible yet?

[atomic nova]

You can, it just bricks the encounter though

[rigid onyx]

Williams is possible yes, however it breaks the encounter and doesn’t allow you to progress further.

[rough locust]

Ah so killing yourself doesn't progress the checkpoint either? Shame

[tender hollow]

Okay, so as a newly minted lvl30, how/what is the best way to start going about raids

[echo burrow]

You can only one shot him after you do all the mechanics, or else you can't progress like astro said. So that makes one shotting Williams rather pointless unless team lacks DPS

[rigid onyx]

Correct as boss 3 and 4 are tied to completion of mechanics rather than eliminating a boss. Killing the boss is a byproduct of completing the mechanics (shutting down the tower/destroying the train). So if you kill either boss early ( we have tried on boss 3/4 ) the mechanics can no longer be progressed and the encounter gets stuck only solvable through a wipe (boss 3 does not get hard locked unless you kill him on the last turret before it is broken because he continues to respawn throughout the encounter)

[rough locust]

I'd recommend getting to lv40 if possible as that's where the majority of people are raiding at. You'll need the WONY DLC however - it goes on sale often and is definitely worth getting

[tender hollow]

Probably should have clarified, but I'm on TD1

[rough locust]

You mean Division 1? There are no raids on that - there are incursions however

[tender hollow]

Ah! I see! Thanks for clearing that up

[eternal phoenix]

Raid anyone?

[valid marlin]

Try in #lfg-raid-console

[autumn tinsel]

Rapid Response commendation is bugg ?

[thorny bison]

Which one is that?

[autumn tinsel]

defeat boomer-any agent using the same mounted gun more than once normal raid

[thorny bison]

Ah. It's not bugged on Xbox.

[tawdry widget]

*without any agent using the same mounted gun more than once, not sure if you were doing it like this or it was just a typo here on discord

[rough locust]

It's not bugged - just communicate with the team and make sure nobody uses the turrets more than once

[vagrant wing]

does a 'double down' count as 'one use'? if one stays one the gun?

[dim wharf]

Yeah

[vagrant wing]

nice

[livid lantern]

hello guys ... i am new in division 2 ... can you help me to do a raid and try to find eagle exotic? 😄

[valid marlin]

Check #lfg-raid-pc

[empty notch]

Can a level 40 player start a level 30 RAID for players without the WoNY DLC

OR

Can only join the level 30 RAID invited and hosted by a level 30 player ?

[long sky]

Yes

[magic fulcrum]

Hosted and invited only

Won’t allow you to invite level 30s

[late canyon]

So, in all seriousness… how hard would it be to get in to an IH with some dudes who don’t mind teaching me, because I’ve never been? Is that a big ask?

[sand gorge]

If you have the builds (especially DPS as a starter) then you should join a Discord where they are very active and don’t mind teaching. Try Raid Agents United or OriginalDivos. Be honest about your raid experience and you will get some really helpful players there. Check out some of RAU’s YouTube training videos on line.

[late canyon]

I really appreciate your advice! I actually do have a good DPS build, and some others! I’ve finished DH like 6-7x.

[sand gorge]

Yeah once you’ve done DH on normal mode a few times it’s actually pretty straightforward with a good group of 8. Iron Horse takes a bit more getting used to especially with the 3rd boss.

[trail oriole]

Everything he said is consistent across platforms. Just be honest and be willing to learn and adapt.

[high hemlock]

Hey all, I’ve had the game for awhile now and am trying to get into the dark hours raid. I was wondering what the best way to get started in raids is. I’ve heard they’re really complicated and require a lot of communication and don’t know how effective in game matchmaking would be.

[vagrant wing]

you can't matchmake for those on normal difficulty anyway...
That means that all raid exclusive gear can be obtain through normal mode alone - which forces ppl to use either the ingame voice or discord

as far as the raids themselves, DH is pretty straight forward, all you need is a full on red build and you're good. there're numerous guides online you can look to get the feel for it.
IH is a bit more complex and require some additional builds, and again there're numerous guides online.
Just look them up.
Good luck

[high hemlock]

Thank you! As far as finding a group, would a fresh faced rookie like me be good to use the lfg here?

[vagrant wing]

why wouldn't you? browse the lfg channel for a group, jump in their RV (raid voice) and tell them you're new.
Most groups have no problem with that, and those that have - you probably want to stay away from anyway

[high hemlock]

That is totally fair and thank you so much again.

[trail oriole]

If you're on around midnight Eastern time I'll host an IH and help you learn.

[cunning pond]

need help raid

[long sky]

With what

[normal mirage]

quite sure he's talking about the bug spray

[long sky]

Ok just checking

[rigid onyx]

Word?

[echo burrow]

I heard you only take 10k shd + 👀

[icy hull]

@vale steppe wrong channel. please use the LFG raid one.

[frail viper]

hey id like to get the ravenous exotic marksman rifle
in order to get it i need to be raid viable
what build should i focus on to not be a wasted player slot at SHD level 100?

[stone coral]

Quick question is there a specific lvl you need to be at so people won’t leave a raid or does it depend on your build ?

[icy hull]

SHD level doesnt matter, knowing at least the basics AND having a decent build with good rolls is what matters.

get a meta red build to start (build guide in pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice

[frail viper]

with basics i guess you mean knowing how the raid works i can do that surely but i am unsure wether i have a better time being something like a support or glass canon

[icy hull]

Non dps roles require more knowledge. Entry role is DPS.

[frail viper]

alright been looking up an AR focues all red glass canon vigilance build utilizing only rare items how important is min maxing at that point?

[tender stag]

id say just aim for 75% rolls on everything

[icy hull]

^^

higher is better of course but id say at least there (50 chc 150+ chd min totals)

[tender stag]

only optimize if they are above 75%, if not then farm for the same item but rolled better
it gets quite expensive to optimize

[icy hull]

Meta red is 3 prov, coyotes, fox, grupo. and double dps talents on chest/ pack.

[tender stag]

depending on the content the AR focus varies alot in effectiveness

[tender stag]

yuck, coyotes all the way

[icy hull]

lol its best in slot (having the buff is)

[long sky]

Afternoon AZ

[thin cipher]

Where do you go to sign up for a raid or is it word of mouth??

[tribal mountain]

In the discord you can use #578577794561474571 and jump in on any posts there.

Through Xbox you can use it’s built in LFG and find raid posts.

[low quiver]

Do you have to know what you're doing to raid? Like I've watched a video to get the mechanics down. But do people mind teaching?

[vagrant wing]

depends on the people in question i guess 🤷‍♂️

[rough locust]

There are groups here and there that help people understand the raids if they've never done them before. Only thing that's mostly asked of you is to make sure you have a solid DPS build with unbreakable and your best AR and rifle and a working mic.

[hot jolt]

obliterate and perfect glass cannon are better talents in my opinion, but unbreakable is also viable

but other than that, what @rough locust said pretty much sums it up

[rough locust]

Unbreakable for entry level to the raids, then obliterate / glass cannon once you get used to them 👍

[hot jolt]

i myself advise the latter two, unless someone really struggles with staying alive

although that might be a terrible idea, now that i think about it

[stiff zephyr]

When you first start raiding there are new mechanics like the gun sweep IH boss 4, or mortars DH boss 4 that a new player might not understand how/what is hitting them and how to avoid it, the extra damage of glass cannon is not worth the player down a lot of the time.

[hot jolt]

would you recommend sticking to unbreakable then or would obliterate do fine in that scenario?

[gusty willow]

Depends on weapon of choice but yeah still Unbreakable.

[hot jolt]

i see, guess i've been advising the wrong talent to new players then this entire time :/

[gusty willow]

It's safest option + obliterate doesn't work too well with all weapons.

[stiff zephyr]

^

[hot jolt]

i'm guessing obliterate pairs well with weapons that have a high rpm, no?

[gusty willow]

Yes faster you shot, more crits you'll have, more benefit from obliterate

[rough locust]

Medium rpm - to get the most of obliberate you don't want fast firing weapons otherwise you're not getting the full effect of obliterate.

[vagrant wing]

huh? how so?

[rough locust]

Oblierate stacks crit damage the longer you fire

[dim wharf]

That's strained

[vagrant wing]

ah no. it doesn't. quite the oppsite actually, the faster you gain crits, the more 'uptime' (of the skill) you get, thus making high rpm ever so beneficial

[boreal bough]

obliterate stacks last for 5s each i think you want more fire rate

[placid raven]

A noob with unbreakable is still a noob.

[tawdry widget]

A veteran with unbreakable is still a noob.

Fixed that for you 🤣

[verbal mist]

so true

[boreal bough]

yes

[fallen epoch]

LOL

[placid raven]

so the conclusion is no matter who wears unbreakable you are a noob.

[paper charm]

On hardcore raids seasoned players do wear unbreakable, and legitimately so (without being a noob).

[placid raven]

They must be seasoned hardcore noobs with no confidence in themselves or their teammates

[paper charm]

Nope. Seasoned players should have enough DPS even without the chest talent. And the practicality of alternative chest piece talents depends heavily on the console platform — do not generalize from PC.

[tawdry widget]

Thing is, from my perspective (and not including Hardcore, that is a whole different thing), if someone chooses to use Unbreakable in a raid (a seasoned player, if you will), that means that he's not contributing to the team's DPS like the other players that are using damage talents in their chest are. More DPS just means the NPCs have less time to kill you because you'll kill them faster. At the same time if someone is afraid of playing with a DPS talent on the chest, I'm not sure of how "seasoned" they are (aka knows spawn points, knows how to avoid the mechanics designed to take you down, knows how to adapt, etc.)

But yeah, sure, this is just a game. People can play however they want. I'm sure someone out there thinks Reassigned is a marvellous talent too (the devs did).

[paper charm]

If we are on that level of judgementalness, I can also say the same thing about players coming with Adrenaline Rush. And you see a lot of those. I — and many groups — would prefer somebody with Unbreakable and Vigilance vs. Adrenaline Rush/Intimidate.

Also, with “not contributing to the team's DPS like the other players that are using damage talents in their chest are” you are way overly generalizing and wrong. For example, a casual Iron Horse can be run at several bosses with Tamper Proof, which is not a “damage talent.” Then, even in the traditional (non-Negotiator) speed-run, on boss 2 you can have a position whose sole responsibility is to push water (afterwards that player can die). He can run whatever makes him survive that few second of water pressing.

[dim wharf]

There's obviously a lot more nuance to it, sometimes GC is the obvious choice, and sometimes unbreakable is, even for an experienced player. 2nd (normal strat) and 4th boss for example, you really don't want GC imo. It's just unnecessary. It's also very group dependant. If your an experienced player carrying new people through there's going to be more ads than normal and you getting swarmed with PGC is not helping the situation. Like yueshi said, you can still clear ads just fine with unbreakable, a DCH/reglus shot still takes out a spawn of ads. Both are useful in the right situations

[gusty willow]

Why are people being judged based on gear and not on effectiveness?

[civic dagger]

cause half the raid is a dps check

[paper charm]

Obviously, sometimes groups can genuinely struggle due to low DPS. But there is also the situation of — if you want — lack of “effectiveness.” Unfortunately in those situations groups can devolve into fingerpointing by DPS spreadsheets, because it is to easier to compute DPS than diagnosing issues from play style and behavior.

[tall forge]

Looking for a raid to join the PlayStation name is the same as this account

[placid raven]

Because someone is missing the whole point. Rather they give a man an eagle bearer so they can raid for a day but not give them the tools so they can raid effectively for a lifetime.

They forget there was a time (and a mechanic that still exists btw) before people realized Chungas had no armour in his ass and people easily used to kill him aiming for heading and avoiding his mechanic where he placed his hand over his face.

They did that whilst dealing with their own NPCS and dog spawns.

Now it's a completely different story. Players struggle to do all of that or multitask.

[paper charm]

I’m sorry, but there is just little point in dwelling on all the failings of the year 1 raids and intricacies of what is now already a bygone gear system.

But if you really must, I can also rant about those asinine DPS-tunnel vision DH groups in year 1:

Since you are so fond of Razorback: There were for instance plenty of not-really-competent, casual raid leaders completely oblivious of the need of drone jamming at Razorback. They have their hapless players shooting those individual drones, while speed-run groups already started using a dedicated jammer person with a skill build. Those casual raids were pure stupidity and not some achievement in DPS.

The other BS was casual groups checking for an all-red build at the “beach,” not realizing that an explosive skill build was one of the more effective and speedy ways to clear the DH tarmac.

[dim wharf]

We also all just used the merciless to kill chungas and dogs in seconds from across the map. As soon as that got nerfed the "shoot them in the ass" became common knowledge very shortly after.

[tall forge]

Looking for a raid to join my PlayStation name is locallife321

[solemn night]

My psn sancho543 looking to do iron horse raid need a ravenous

[verbal mist]

A jammer wouldn’t kill them prior . They buffed this . We tried .

Back on to dps check topic.. last night was a great example of unbreakable tamper proof wearing warriors . Hopped in an lfg on boss 3 iron horse they were stuck for over 2.5 hours just on boss 3 ! After explaining the ads players needed actual damage producing chest pieces alongside vigilance on the bp boom it was done first try . Of course this had nothing to do with the fact the actual team was putting out an additional 30 percent more damage each . It was probably pure luck 🙄

[paper charm]

Many casual groups I observed running without the jammer till the bitter end of the gear change at WoNY. So claiming this due to an even more ancient TU change is anachronistic.

Your boss 3 example is anecdotal. I have seen both Glass Cannon groups falling apart, and I have seen it ran well with Tamper Proof. A lot more goes into the success/failure on this boss than pure DPS. Also, your percentage number sounds like you were not using Focus, which is quite feasible and has higher damage on this boss.

[verbal mist]

Focus is a damage talent and I would of been happy with that . I raid daily and enjoy it . My number was estimated not exact as the players had different talents . Yes your correct it takes more than dps but was a great example of why they couldn’t kill the boss or ads . Dps is very important in both raids.

[paper charm]

Nowadays there are many ways to kill the boss. You can stack all the known buffs against the boss (which, incidentally, actually require certain players in the team to have chest pieces/backpacks other than the simple damage talents). There is also the overcharged Achilles Pulse. You can run a healer that does diagnostics, instead of a tank that does not contribute to damage. Tons of possibilities, and quite feasible without particular chest talents.

[verbal mist]

I’m not going to argue with you . This is ridiculous. Run your unbreakable tamper proof raids . I’ll run mine my way . Enjoy your Saturday

[paper charm]

This is ad hominem and in particular a strawman's argument. I describe how it is feasible to run a certain way, which is not how I necessarily run. Apparently you have no argument left and resorts to this kind of personal attack.

[verbal mist]

Have a great day 😬

[tawdry widget]

Pre-TU8, Drones at Razorback were killed either individually, by shooting them, or with a Tip of the Spear yellow build with a Stinger Hive thrown into Razorback. The Jammer method only appeared after the gear 2.0 rework.

[tawdry widget]

It's feasible to complete DH and IH using only the Sleigher, or in other words, it's doable with any sort of build you can think of. Does it make it easier to do so, for you and the rest of the team? Maybe not. There's a reason why meta build exists, as there's a reason why niche speed running builds exist. But I feel like you're missing the point. You're now just describing different ways for each boss to be beaten, when the beginning point is: Unbreakable, in a normal raid, with other team members, isn't optimal.

[boreal bough]

if it works it works unbreakable just makes it easier for your team to not worry about you if youre new to the raid

you arent necessarily dragging down the team if you dont bring a dps talent unless that is a big part missing from the team

it might not be the fastest for a speedrun but it willstill help your team if theyre still showing you the ropes

[rigid onyx]

It’s not that deep guys.....just shoot shit and look damn good doing it. Oh and don’t die 😉

[vagrant wing]

no you

[rigid onyx]

👀

[rough locust]

I DIE LIKE REAL MAN - PGC ALL THE WAY THROUGH BOTH RAIDS 🤣

[rigid onyx]

The real secret is using PGC while shooting shit looking damn good and not dying

[late shadow]

Any1 summit

[rough locust]

If only Max Payne slow mo was a thing in this game - barrel rolling then slapping a group of ads with a regulus shot to the face 🤣

[weak elbow]

try lfg-raid.

[paper charm]

This is totally BS that you are making up. I speed-ran (sub 10 min) between TU6 and TU8, and jammer works. I was the alternate jammer in my team.

[tawdry widget]

I stand corrected, looking at older raid runs of when I ran it, jammer was used for the second wave of drones

[viscid fossil]

i missed the days when people use to panic and you will have 5 guys trying to kill the Chunga on boss 4 DH. i think the big difference is you have a lot to loose in hardcore so wearing unbreakable is a safe option, if you can do ih without any safety nets then that would be crazy

[sullen shadow]

Hello, same question but here, what are raid requierement for dps ?

[hot jolt]

i'm guessing you're new to raids?

[sullen shadow]

Donne discovery for both of them

And watched YouTube video about rest

[hot jolt]

i'd say make sure you have sufficient dps (at least 50% crit hit chance and 150% crit hit damage) and listen to the raid leader

also, make sure to ask questions, if you have them

those are the most important things when it comes to prepping for raids, in my opinion

forgot to mention that landing your shots is also important, but that kinda speaks for itself

[gusty willow]

People will disagree with this but my opinion is if your dps build is good enough to carry your own weight in 4-man heroic it is good enough for raid.

[hot jolt]

definitely agree with that one when it comes to enemy health and armor

[sullen shadow]

I'm 226 SHD, 30% crit hit 125% crit dmg, but i'm playing chameleon so i'm 50 and 175 most of the time !

So according to what you say, i'm able to do so :)

[hot jolt]

i myself wouldn't recommend the chameleon, but if it works for you, good

i don't like it due to the earlier damage dropoff and the poor accuracy, but that's just my opinion

the need to build up the buffs also isn't great, as well as most encounters lasting longer than 45 seconds

and shd level doesn't matter a lot

[sullen shadow]

So maybe have you a good build recommandation to be efficient in raids ? :)

My build is more solo tbh

[hot jolt]

yikes, raids are scaled for full groups on heroic (so what jimmy said)

i'm pretty sure #td2-build-advice has the full meta jacket

[gusty willow]

Just look at dps builds on youtube and make one that is good. In raids everyone has to carry their own weight. Can you be carried? Obviously but you need to show some respect toward people you are playing with.

[daring pivot]

Like others have said, there's a couple of builds that have been pinned that you can use as reference to see what type of gear you should look for. As for the raids themselves, be patient and look for people who are willing to take their time teaching you what to do and what to look out for in the raids as long as you're respectful and willing to listen. Watching tutorial videos can only help so much without experiencing it yourself. There are plenty of players are willing to teach, just gotta find them. On the opposite end, there are players who are elitist or who aren't willing to take on newer players despite the fact that they were newbs at one point also. Just avoid those types.

[hot jolt]

Regarding the final bit @daring pivot noted: you'll know it's one of those raids if the host has written down "KWTD" (Know What To Do)

[fervent steeple]

Hi all so i have done expedition Raids Dark Hours and am no stranger to the game but believe it or not i have never completed a Raid on normal or upwards. And teams i have joined have never got past the first boss. So i have spent my time completing all other parts of the game and now i would wish to do the Raids and get the Gear and Weapons from these areas is there any one willing to let a veteran to the game but a noob to the Raids join one.

[dim wharf]

Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss. Most people have no issues walking people through for the first time as long as your upfront about it.

[vagrant wing]

you must have a .txt file with that on your desktop by now 😆

[dim wharf]

I'm not rewriting it every time lol

[swift peak]

Should be a pin, really

[icy hull]

copy paste FTW hehe

[pearl hemlock]

I was running a drone killer build in DH and I’m curious how others perform the mechanic of firing the jammer pulse. Do you typically hold the fire button for it to fully charge? Or some where between fully charged and press and release?

[quiet spade]

looking for people for a raid

[dim wharf]

If you start charging as soon as the drones start flying out of the top you'll reach the full charge right on time. Technically you don't have to fully charge it if your near razorback and have 6 skill tiers, but it's more of a safer than sorry type of thing so you don't miss drones on the far side.

[pearl hemlock]

Thanks I usually fully charge but sometimes on 2nd spawn I’m a little late on the jammer so the other plates take damage was trying to see how to avoid that

[tender stag]

first wave: start immediately after xbowing the vent
2nd wave: after the grenade is in run to shoot the vent with scorpio 8 times and then full charge jammer

8 scorpio shots is around how long it takes for the second wave to come out

[pearl hemlock]

I was about to ask why am I shooting vent 8 times

[vagrant wing]

2nd wave: after the grenade is in run to shoot the vent with scorpio 8 times and then full charge jammer
8 scorpio shots is around how long it takes for the second wave to come out
that's somewhat inaccurate. the second wave has a timer attached to it and dependable on how fast your team break both weakpoints

[hot jolt]

shouldn't 7 scorpio shots suffice?

[tender stag]

i just meant in terms of timing

[hot jolt]

oh

my bad then

[tender stag]

its understandable
its just that 7+1 in the chamber is what i use for timing

[pearl hemlock]

Is that the only reason to shoot vent or is there another reason?

[tender stag]

i mean as jammer you dont have that much damage so might as well give your team the damage buff

also if you stand under the vent you can kinda see when the drones come out anyway

but just refer to what @vagrant wing said, what i gave is an approximation that i use whenever i jam

[pearl hemlock]

I was unaware the 20% worked on Razorback nice to know

[tender stag]

yea if you look at the rb health you can see the toxic shock debuff

[dim wharf]

Has anyone figured out if the Scorpio damage buff works on razorback? I've always shot it with Scorpio for that reason, but tbh I don't know for sure if it does

[echo burrow]

it does

[tender stag]

even if its placebo what else are you gonna do as jammer lol
i guess the capacitor is ok damage

[pearl hemlock]

No idea only been playing for about 2 months. And still learning everything. But I do know my drone killer works I just have to work on my timing of it all

I was running capacitor with mine

[tender stag]

dwai, just let your teammates get shot
they probably deserve it one way or another

[vagrant wing]

the rav would be better in terms of dmg. i do think the scorpio buff works though

[pearl hemlock]

I don’t have rav

[echo burrow]

scorpio dmg buff do apply to razorback

[tender stag]

i guess some reasoning behind it would basically be: hey rav stacking the weakpoints work so why wouldnt the scorpio

[dim wharf]

One thing I'm 90% sure works is shooting boomer with the 7th shot helps you get the double down. I would think it's basically the same

[echo burrow]

that doesnt make much sense

[echo burrow]

boomer is more of the 6th shot that shocks him

[tender stag]

if meant in terms of this debuff works so why wouldnt scorpio

[echo burrow]

rav isnt a debuff

its amplified dmg to armor plates which somehow the game considers RB weakpoints as armor plating

[vagrant wing]

cause you're talking about 2 different entities. 1 being the player, the other being an npc 🙂

[tender stag]

would you consider it a status then

[echo burrow]

scorpio has both status and debuff so

[tender stag]

then what would you consider something that is applied to an enemy

[echo burrow]

.. could be anything? depending on what you're applying

[tender stag]

i mean what would you call it

[echo burrow]

Why are you asking me that question? What are you even applying?

[tender stag]

if you have a term for it then i would refer to that term instead of calling it a debuff

[echo burrow]

for what?

[tender stag]

i only said debuff in a general sense of something that the player applies to an enemy whether it be a "debuff" as you referred to originally or a "status" as in status effect which is what i believe you were referring to

[echo burrow]

a debuff is something that increases damage taken or reduces damage dealt by enemy in a sense

[tender stag]

but then again supposedly you cant nego razorback so my original reasoning for this thing works so why wouldnt this other similar thing is invalid

[echo burrow]

what does nego have anything to do with this

[tender stag]

if an enemy is shocked it cant deal damage so in that sense a status is a debuff

because if you refer to what i was originally talking about and understood what i was trying to communicate you would understand why nego does have something to do with this conversation

[swift peak]

understanding is overrated

[tender stag]

youre right
why cant we just all laugh at peepee poopoo jokes instead

[vagrant wing]

it doesn't matter what's it called really. your logic has a flaw in it that's all. the rav stacks apply to you (to your weapon) while the scorpio thing applies to an npc (razorback).

now according to one SToG (which i can't remember which one) the raid has been sourced out to a different teams back then, meaning (to my understanding) they received them as a complete product prior to the scropio being in the game (DH at least). it's unclear whether it's effect should be applied to the npcs in the raids.

That said - it does for sure works on boomer - so we can reason that the implementation takes the assets found in the game (i.e. npcs) and place them in the raids, which suggest it works for razorback too.

but who knows? 🙂

[echo burrow]

It does work for razorback, tested before and debuff icon shows on razorback, also one of the main buffs for one shotting it.

[tender stag]

i see why it could seem like that but my thinking behind all this was just based on
this enemy now has an icon next to it so therefore a(n) insert generalized term has been applied

[vagrant wing]

ah but that sort of assumption is dangerous... you trying to apply the UI into the logic (logic being the layer which handles the software logic) . It usually works the other way around.
But yeah - i do think it applies for razorback for what it worth

[tender stag]

thanks for the edit, i wasnt immediately following what you were referring to lol

[vagrant wing]

yeah sorry about that. should have made it clear from the beginning

[muted violet]

So, uh. I'd like ot do Iron Horse to start on regulus project. Problem is - never done it before and only ahve one build at the moment, which is unlikely to be suitable. (Demolisher HW/Tag Team non-stop seeker cluster+sticky explosive spam)
So I'd rather spend the next week preparing. Is there any material on which builds I need to have at hand? Preferably written over video.

[swift peak]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10foKYUCF7MZB10DzgrO4W6TzU-EoITWKaryJEyANo-s/edit?usp=sharing

[muted violet]

Thank you!

[verbal mist]

6th shot

5 shots when down 6th shot when he stands up

[dim wharf]

6th shot shocks boomer so you can attempt it. What I'm talking about is the 7th shot damage increasing turret damage on his backpack

[verbal mist]

Never done it that way . Double down most of the time . I’ll try that next time

[dim wharf]

I started noticing it when I was on the turret myself. I used to take the 6th shot and immediately get back on the gun. You can still get the double down, but the timing is tight. If you take the time to hit the 7th shot it seems easier. I've just never compared the damage numbers your hitting for, so I'm not 100% certain

[verbal mist]

Interesting. I’ll give it a try and report back

[dim wharf]

And it's not a matter of overheating by shooting early, just having enough time to get enough shots off before he throws the grenade

[verbal mist]

Oh yeah I’m aware of the process . I double down 80 percent of the time . I run 3 strikers , dh bp with vig and gun slinger while kiting .

Turret speed and handling with the strikers really helps

[dim wharf]

Wait, does 3p striker effect the turret?

[verbal mist]

Yep

[dim wharf]

Oh shit, that's news to me, cool

[verbal mist]

Try it . It’s a game changer

[spice beacon]

I feel like this is a silly question but do people use SMG’s in the raids at all? I’m just struggling a bit to think of another weapon people would use besides maybe rifles and AR’s for a crit dps build (never raided before so I know next to nothing about the requirements)

[hot jolt]

not really, from what i've seen (same with memento)

[boreal bough]

personally i havent seen people run smgs in raid much but if youre into it and you want to run the smg

go ahead run the weapon you want as long as you dont drag the team down too much

[hot jolt]

i'd only advise this in a handful of situations

[boreal bough]

yeah that isnt applicable to every situation

[hot jolt]

most of them*

[boreal bough]

if you do that i suggest having a backup gun in your inventory you have just incase your team does need you to have that omph

or just run a rifle/ar from the start idk

[daring pivot]

most loadouts for raid DPS builds tend to run a primary (usually AR, but I run an LMG personally), and a secondary that either gives the extra oomph to pop a target (Rifle) or allows a bit of ad control while still dealing dmg (Scorpio shotgun)

[boreal bough]

for dh on the first boss only 1 person should be running scorpio

you dont wanna accidentally mess up the double dps

[hot jolt]

if you're doing double down, that is

[daring pivot]

yeah, but you can still use Scorpio on ads if they get a bit out of hand

not saying to use Scorpio on boss one

[boreal bough]

didnt say you were just saying that is still a thing

[daring pivot]

true

[boreal bough]

to avoid trouble i usually switch off as my brain goes on autopilot mode and i shoot everything i see

[daring pivot]

lol, I tend to be a bit more technical and pay attention. sound usually tells me where Boomer is

[boreal bough]

the only time im bothered to do a raid is when i just woke up and am pretty tired so i just let what happens happen

[hot jolt]

i myself don't mind raiding all day, it's just that i don't have time nowadays

[daring pivot]

me neither. I miss the days where I could game for 4+ hours every day

[boreal bough]

i have the time i just dont have the will do to so

[hot jolt]

i don't know what it is, but there's something that just allows me to keep going

probably the fact that i don't enjoy running missions

[boreal bough]

maybe missions are to easy? or maybe theyre just the same shit over and over

[daring pivot]

only reason I still play Div2 is that there's still something to do. Like an item I haven't collected or the season events. otherwise, I wouldn't be touching this game with how boring it can get

[boreal bough]

probably the former tbh

[hot jolt]

most likely

it could also be that i enjoy teaching new players

also, it feels good to be able to give someone whatever they're looking for if they've been grinding for a long time (especially since it took me a good 5 weeks just to get the terrapin armored rig when i was fairly new, so i know what it feels like)

[grave obsidian]

Im available for either raid.....healer or whatever.

[tough trench]

I do

[strange loom]

does eb come from metal horse?

[echo burrow]

Nope

[rigid onyx]

Comes from plastic pony from what I have been told. Cannot confirm tho

[rough locust]

Rubber donkey 🤣

[valid herald]

from Iron Hours

[tight coyote]

Had an odd situation last night on a IH. Fresh run, first of the week for me. 3 of 4 key boxes shows up as already opened so couldn’t open it for a key obviously. Next the chest at the end was in the same state even tho I had enough keys.

Has anyone seen this? Platform XBOX (Series X) if it matters. One of my team mates suggested it might be a an auto resume glitch for series x

[vagrant wing]

we had a similar (common from what i can tell) bug on DH boxes on PC. the usual fix was to log out/log back in or travel to the Boo and back. not sure if it's the same issue though

[boreal bough]

hehe the BOO

[tight coyote]

I read about the key box big. Saw videos too. Seems for that one the boxes were closed but not dropping when you interact

[vagrant wing]

i personally saw multiple instances of open boxes (happened to me once, and to other ppl numerous times) on the first clear of the week. Again on DH only and on PC, the work around i mentioned usually fix the issue, although if your team are willing you can just reform the raid/get it next run

[tight coyote]

Thanks. Hopefully a fresh run will show the missing keys

[native birch]

can someone explain the WiFi panel and Electricity Box part for me? In IH

[icy valve]

wifi at railyard you mean

basically if done the way it meant to be done boss fight that is you ll get two fuses u ll need to plug them in the generator to get access to the next part via moving the train

but they the community does it is by putting one fuse in the train ll move a bit back and if u step in it is position u ll triger the next checkpoiojnt and hpw the check point system works is once u trigger it fastravilling ll take u to the last checkpoint

and that is one way to di it

if for some reason u used both fuses u ll need to ineract with the wifi box(one i nthe hall way at before heat chamber ) so it ll trigger one of the boxes in railyard so u can get a third

[native birch]

thank you! I'm reading the guide and will come back for more questions...

[icy valve]

ur welcome

[next timber]

i used to raid daily when iron horse came out but stopped so im not quite sure if the meta has changed since a month or 2 after launch? im thinking of getting back into it but dont want to be seen as a noob as i understand the premise of each boss and how to beat it but obvs strats change and so

[rigid onyx]

Rifle meta still OP

[rough locust]

Nothing has changed at all in forever so you're good 🤣

[spice beacon]

Hey my buddy and I are trying to get builds going for our first raid run, I’m finishing up the crit DPS build that GCROCK posted on his yt but my friend is looking for a tank build, someone who pulls aggro, is there a build that would be viable for the raid and that could be somewhat of a dmg sponge? He normally runs a 4 piece true patriot w bullet king

[twin junco]

@spice beacon From which raid are you talking about? I guess it is more useful (for both raids) when your friend looks for a dps build, too. He can use Unbreakable as talent on the chest (instead of a tank build with more armour).

[spice beacon]

The both of us are focused on Dark Hours only as of right now we don’t feel like we are anywhere ready for Iron Horse

[twin junco]

@spice beacon Ok. Then both of you should have a dps build. I would prefer Unbreakable (but others would say, you should use Glas Canon – when you are familiar with that talent, it's ok, too). When you are in an experienced group, you have to do damage, nothing else.

[hot jolt]

Obliterate is a good alternative to Perfect Glass Cannon

[verbal mist]

Just go to #td2-build-advice and look at the fmj build . Make this and your dh gear ready .

[long sky]

And more survivability is unbreakable on chest

[rocky eagle]

can anyone help me farm foundry gear on coney island

[strange loom]

use #lfg-pc please and you can only get foundry or future intiative chest or back pack from Iron Horse on a fresh run or from the crate

[rocky eagle]

i dont need them i need mask, holster or kneepads and i was sent here by people in #lfg-pc

[strange loom]

thats kinda odd because this channel is for talking about the raid not for finding people to complete missions with for loot

[long sky]

@rocky eagle the reason they sent you here was because those are in the IH raid. My best advice is to join an IH raid

Easier to get

[echo burrow]

mask holster and knees drop in targetted

you dont need to do raid

[long sky]

Correct

[smoky geyser]

I would like to ask, when I have a regulus in my hand , can I get another one by opening the box in IH?

[swift peak]

nope

if you move any reguluses you have to a different character, then running a fresh IH will get you all the parts to craft another one

but it never very rarely drops 'whole' as far as I know

[smoky geyser]

🧐

[vagrant wing]

it does on extremely low chance

at least that's the rumor

[solemn flame]

I have 2, but have only ever crafted one. Think I got the second one from an exotic cache.