td2-raid-discussions

[tender hollow]

@stiff zephyr I showed you my build

Can I raid with that?

It’s all high end pieces

[stiff zephyr]

it's terrable, you don't even have weapon and skill mods lol

man, listen please. no one will want to carry you through with that

[tender hollow]

It has weapons tho

[stiff zephyr]

f it I give up

[tender hollow]

I can kill elites very easily

[stiff zephyr]

you where saying

[fossil hinge]

Is there any lockout system, or can you run the raid as many times as you want?

[crystal pond]

Just wondering if healer and shield tank are wanted in raids. Or if it would be better to have a dps build ready.

[stiff zephyr]

every week the keys you get in raids reset to g et the good loot

[chilly oxide]

You can do as many times as youd like but exclusive loot and box keys is 1 per week on a character

[tender hollow]

You can get keys with drone builds?

[stiff zephyr]

get dps builds first because for your first raid you will not be ready for the more complex roles

[tender hollow]

Skill damage max

[fossil hinge]

So essentially, the raid boss will drop a key once per week for boxed loot, otherwise it's on normal drop table

[stiff zephyr]

sorry man @crystal pond, also in DH there is no tank for most of it

[chilly oxide]

No i mean hidden boxes. End boss (Razorback in DH and Morozova in IH) always drop a key

[stiff zephyr]

they reset once a week

[chilly oxide]

And in case of IH Foundry Bulkwark and Future Initiative stuff (The most sought after being chest and backpack)

[fossil hinge]

Are hidden boxes already known locations in a raid?

[chilly oxide]

Yep

[stiff zephyr]

yeh

[tender hollow]

@stiff zephyr so is my build okay for raid?

Can I join?

[stiff zephyr]

no man

[tender hollow]

Why bro :(

I have weapon damage

[stiff zephyr]

it's "shit", (a french drink)

[fossil hinge]

What builds should I look at using? I have a standard ar build no regen, and a bruiser shield build.

[tender hollow]

But you said don’t use skill you need dps damage builds

[chilly oxide]

Try a DPS build as a start

[tender hollow]

DPS for raids only

and open world

ravenous on razorback

@stiff zephyr says my dps build is shit :(

show it to me

[stiff zephyr]

your dps buid is not that good

[chilly oxide]

Okay but hear me out

[fossil hinge]

give me an example of dps build, my pistol build does more damage than a standard ar build

[tender hollow]

Is it good for raid?

[chilly oxide]

What if Ragn.r strapped his gun to the drone/turret

How would that work out

[stiff zephyr]

what if he strapped his gun to the boss and just shot at us?

[chilly oxide]

Ah shit you're right

[tender hollow]

@tender hollow but it’s dps build

[tender hollow]

My drone can shoot tho it has gun of its own

[chilly oxide]

Do you think if he put his Ravenous on the boss everyone would instantly die?

[tender hollow]

@stiff zephyr can I use my skill build then? It will do more damage

[stiff zephyr]

man, grind a dps build stop asking

[tender hollow]

@tender hollow call me ima shouw you the build

[stiff zephyr]

you have never played on anthing other than normal right?

[tender hollow]

I have bad internet

me2

[tender hollow]

What’s normal?

and i still manage

omg...

you know whats difficulties

It just says story

story,normal.hard,heroic,legendary

ah youre not even level 40

I play everyday

[stiff zephyr]

lol

[tender hollow]

are you?

I have 200 hours now

[stiff zephyr]

story is easy man

[tender hollow]

im askin your elvel not hour

level

Yes 200 hours

[stiff zephyr]

ok man call me I will show you

[tender hollow]

dude im asking your level not hours

untaps can i join

[stiff zephyr]

sure

[tender hollow]

add me

[stiff zephyr]

if he picks up

[tender hollow]

ik lol

Sorry I new to discord

[crystal pond]

Thanks for the advice @stiff zephyr.

[tender hollow]

@stiff zephyr what’s the red mask you have

@tender hollow my guy just right click on our icon ad click call

and

How do I get red mask?

It looks nice

[stiff zephyr]

man call us first

[tender hollow]

Can I use that with my skill build?

[stiff zephyr]

then we can show you easier

or join a vc anything

[tender hollow]

Sorry idk how to call :(

omg dude join a group chat just schrool down

[stiff zephyr]

in our pms click the green thing

[tender hollow]

may i ask how old are you

[icy hull]

Yo, if you guys are on a private call, please move the convo over to DMs.

[tender hollow]

dude dont interfere

[stiff zephyr]

we aren't he can't pick the call up

[tender hollow]

hes "new" to discord

I don’t know how to

do you know how to schrool in discord

All I see is chats everywhere

ther rare raid voice and group voices

dude schrool down with your mouse

omg...you cant be that dumb....

im going to call you and youre gonna click the green button ok?

Don’t see call

What green button

ok then right click on my name and click call

if you troll then im done

[stiff zephyr]

4th one down

[tender hollow]

RIGHT CLICK on my name and CLICK call

Call yes

yes the 4th one

thats Call

[chilly oxide]

Hm i like how both of you didn't notice Rag's profile

[tender hollow]

?

a penguin?

[chilly oxide]

No like right click>profile

[tender hollow]

my guy is retarded as fuck

i dont get it normal profile

he has nitro

an basic info

im i missin something?

[chilly oxide]

Think about this fact and his badges

[tender hollow]

I really dont look at that

so tell me

[chilly oxide]

So basically

He did a little trollin

[tender hollow]

👀

I dont get it what badges a hyper squad a nitro

[stiff zephyr]

@tender hollow
A: Roll - Fuck you then
B: I have no faith in humanity

[tender hollow]

😂

and C:go to hell idiot

wasting my 20 min on you

piece of shit

[chilly oxide]

Was I too subtle perhaps Untaps?

[tender hollow]

i tried to help and he shits on us

What’s a ravenous

youre asking to be banned

[stiff zephyr]

where did you find such a shit build man?

[tender hollow]

I’m asking a question tho

[chilly oxide]

Hey don't get mad at me im just the messenger

[tender hollow]

when he sad that he is new to discord I knew he was messin around

[tender hollow]

It’s my build

What do you mean

[stiff zephyr]

really

[tender hollow]

Yes

thats not a build thats beign an iidot

[stiff zephyr]

ok

[tender hollow]

idiot

[crystal pond]

This was amusing to watch

[chilly oxide]

Indeed it was Vet. Indeed it was

[stiff zephyr]

@tender hollow what is your uplay name?

my faith in humanity just jumped out of the window

[tender hollow]

same

wasted 20 min on that idiot

[chilly oxide]

Im gonna be honest with you both

Im impressed it only took you now to lose hope in humanity

[crystal pond]

@tender hollow Is my build of purps good enough for raids?

[stiff zephyr]

at least we made freinds along the way or some bull shit

[tender hollow]

I’m new to division 2

[crystal pond]

Looking at the positives, I like that

[tender hollow]

What’s uplay?

@crystal pond show

[stiff zephyr]

Untaps

[tender hollow]

I showed you my new build

[stiff zephyr]

k

[crystal pond]

@tender hollow I am messing with ya, I rather not piss off the big Russian named Francis

[tender hollow]

Lmao

Im not russian im Slavic

[crystal pond]

It was one of the two

[tough trench]

Did they fix the open doors glitch on IH? (Ps4)

[humble solar]

@tough trench no, it still happens

[wise lake]

Hello

I want to play raid

help me

[tough trench]

Thanks

[empty arch]

is fieser's tick damage inside the furnace a set amount of HP per stack or a percent of armor per stack

[stiff zephyr]

I think a set amount of hp, but why does this even matter?

[vagrant wing]

Fieser ticks as the heat stacks from the furnace?

[stiff zephyr]

yeh, what the healer out heals in control, the up to 100x heat stacks

[vagrant wing]

that's armor dmg not health dmg

[stiff zephyr]

it will damage your health too mate

[wheat meteor]

Only damages health once armor is gone though.

[stiff zephyr]

yeh

[vagrant wing]

yeah - that's what i meant by "armor dmg" 🙂

i.e. it doesn't do dmg directly to your health as long as you still have armor

[gusty willow]

I would like to get something out there.
So many people are joining raids without the required build. For people new to the raids that I understand but I'm sick of groups expecting me to tank or heal in 80% of my raids. I do want to shot too.

[fiery stag]

Looking to play the raid and finish it. Dr3adsniper_x

[stiff zephyr]

Any Raid I'm in, you wont have to heal :0

(can I aim, no)

[fiery stag]

Sounds good 👌

[verbal mist]

This is a common problem . I join many lfg dh raids and it’s either a group of sweaty toxic asshats or 7 players with 3 blues and braced . I’m always down to help players but gets very frustrating

[tawdry widget]

said it once, will say it again: thank all the youtube videos filled with blue core builds that "melt" 🙄

[empty arch]

hey braced is legit you should see the damage I was putting out on weasel last night

700kx1100RPM

sleipner vedmedytsya is such a great combo

[cold belfry]

Anyone want play dark hours right now? #XBOX

[icy hull]

wrong channel, please use the LFG raid one. @cold belfry

[raven heath]

I'm looking for a raid clan that wants an experienced raider. Have a build for every position.

Sorry, PS4

[faint socket]

Yoo just got the Backfire and Scorpio on Legendary Summit

[azure fossil]

Does anyone know what triggers the potential glitch at Morozova, particularly in phase 4 -- where Morozova seems to drop aggro table completely, and starts randomly running around targeting others -- despite being pinned, and stickied?

is there a certain set of conditions that triggers this?

[sick spindle]

No aggro table is her normal condition, honestly. If you try to move even an inch too far from her she tends to become unpinned

[azure fossil]

Her being pinned or unpinned is a non-issue, she randomly resets aggro table and ignores stickies or re-aggro randomly

you can't keep her pinned if her aggro resets

[sick spindle]

Being pinned is the best bet, after that fails stuff will hit the fan. she is 100% programmed to reset to or get some value of aggro towards random raid member. turrets/drones/decoys/shooting will probably take aggro from you

2nd best bet just stay close and keep sticky-ing her think of sticky as a taunt for it's duration.

[azure fossil]

pin is not the issue, there is a glitch where her aggro table resets. She will 100% ignore pin, resets aggro, despite stickies and chases random people for 3-5 minutes, and even ignores additional stickies for some of those minutes

[tough trench]

I just droo a decoy outside the door and got one of the rocket guys drop his decoy right before mine resets and so.

[tawdry widget]

I think you're seeing it the wrong way around. The "glitch" is being able to keep her at the door. Her running around freely, targeting whoever she wants, randomly, is her natural behaviour since day 1.

Apart from Decoy that has an aggro mechanic programmed to it, everything else doesn't really have an aggro mechanic, per se. There's no taunt or similar mechanic that someone running tank can use.

[sick spindle]

https://youtu.be/PabHT3hA-4Y you do this, but don't die at the last second

[azure fossil]

I know the pin is the glitch. I understand the general mechanics of it, but what specifically makes her decide to drop ALL aggro, ignore a pin, and then go on a tangent targeting everyone else including the healer etc? She will ignore additional stickies, or anything else for a time before she "snaps out of it" and I am able to get her attention again

It has nothing to do with losing her pin, she still does this at random and ignores a pin entirely despite doing everything correctly

[azure fossil]

Yeah I've done this, 50+ times. There are still times where despite excessive stickies and staggers under pin, she randomly drops aggro and runs through my pin and starts picking people at random for a few minutes

[sick spindle]

stay as close as you can to her and maybe shoot her occasionally. Literally she's probably only pinned because she cant find a path to other players, if she finds a path to other players, she will go attack them instead.

[tender hollow]

does it happen when 4th phase is taking ages or a lot longer than normal?

[azure fossil]

It's possible, but sometimes not. I would say even on efficient 'normal' runs she can do it -- and sometimes not.

That's what I'm wondering, if her 'aggro table' reset is an intended mechanic, based on a timer or a trigger

[sick spindle]

since every boss does that, we assume the aggro switches are normal, and the fact stickys "taunt" is abnormal

if you notice, 2nd boss the boss will randomly target people, noticeable because it cant reach anyone usually

early on, we just let morozova run wild and just told the people she targeted to watch out

[azure fossil]

her aggro isn't based on her pin, as I understand it. You can for example stand with your back to the door she comes out of as a different strategy -- prevent damage from lasers, use train for ravenous stacks, keep an eye on things etc

[sick spindle]

Iv'e done that before, you are right. but she still doesnt consider she can go reach others. once she finds she can run, she gives raid members the eye and focuses on them.

Now, if anyone knows why some times only 1/2 the rpg's drop that would be super usefil

[frosty rock]

It happens when both rockets are fired at the same time

[azure fossil]

This is exactly the kind of thing I came here for.

[frosty rock]

the game only registers one rocket firing so it thinks there is still a rocket on the playing field, and the way rockets work is that there can only be 2 on the field at all times

[sick spindle]

that's weird, I would think it just checks how many are on the floor or held.

[frosty rock]

This game is spaghetti string dude haha

[fluid pier]

he's lying. somebody dug a hole and hid it 👀

[azure ruin]

As AJ mentioned, firing both at same time can cause bug.. another thing is when you bring rockets from williams and forget to take those out on field for morozova.. many people leave those rpgs in garage / sometimes lost rpgs during switching builds and then bug happens too. Hence rockets should be carried by only those who know what they are doing.. else dont carry at all

[muted bridge]

How to drop RPGs?

[tawdry widget]

Switch weapon after picking them up

[muted bridge]

Thanks, there may be one day I participate in IH..

[vague swift]

just play in discovery mode

[muted bridge]

Nah it okay I roughly know the layout of the map via my first orientation/carry as well as youtube videos

Just need to take notes on mechanics before embarking on things.

For DH, it is mostly about Kill Kill Kill... IH tho...need more coordination

[vast willow]

Hey everyone I’ve just recently finished DH and was wondering if there is any teachers for IH

Could use a HEDWICK rn haha

[azure fossil]

Tonight we had an RPG disappear before the sniper gauntlet (not in the pit, but above). I decided to go right and pick up the RPG from the enemy there, yet she didn't drop one - so someone had to go left to get the only remaining RPG. Later into the same instance of the raid, one of the RPGs failed to spawn at Morozova -- so we had to restart.

[verbal mist]

@tawdry widget will 4 hw , wyvern chest with overwatch kill drones in survivalist ? I’ve ran drones a billion times but curious if you have experience with this chest talent

[tawdry widget]

It should, yes

50 attributes + 15 HW + 10 Wyvern + 10 watch + 12 Overwatch = 97 so it's enough

[verbal mist]

Nice 👍. I’ve made a red fi build that pops weakpoint solo plus this extra 12 will be great . Looks like 27 percent added with the two

[tawdry widget]

The red HW I use now is with perfect glass cannon + gunslinger, also works nicely

[verbal mist]

Yes I have one of those . Overwatch and red fi will help the group by 27 percent . Which is very noticeable. I’m excited to try it

[sleek cape]

This is my exact situation rn ngl
I do think by now I'm at the point where Atleast one of my builds would be raid ready

[stiff zephyr]

anyone else get the waiting for raid server thing that lasts indefinitely with no apparent fix other than time?

[tough trench]

Just be sure to get a Radio mod on the jammer. Otherwise the backside drones sometimes stay alive because you need to stay in cover on the computer if you want the overwatch to work.

[stiff zephyr]

never mind, switching characters fixes it 🙂

[burnt wave]

Where the Xbox raid community I only see PS4

[icy hull]

#578577794561474571

console raid LFG on discord is kinda slow for both,

woah just checked... much slower for XBox 🤔

[burnt wave]

Yea bro that don’t exist on here

[icy hull]

well i mean past Xbox didnt sell as well as PS4. not sure how current sales went.

[fierce jungle]

You have to select the xbox role. You currently have the ps4 role

[dark cargo]

can someone tell me a little about how raids work and what DH stands for?

[vast willow]

Anyone doing raids? I’m new

[royal fulcrum]

@dark cargo raids are basically large 8 man missions, with mechanics and where teamwork/communication is required to do them. DH stands for Dark Hours and IH stands for Iron Horse. DH drops Eagle bearer, IH drops The ravenous.

[keen kraken]

What are the req for raiding on Normal diff?

[stiff zephyr]

You listen, a red ar or rifle build.
And it is a amazing if you say you are new

[umbral vale]

hey when doing the shot gun trick on the boxs on 2nd boss, why does the 3rd code always change random half way when its getting called? and how can we fix it

[stiff zephyr]

Don't use shotguns or exotics on the boxes at all

[umbral vale]

we speed running

trying to *

shotgun makes the code come up quciker

[stiff zephyr]

Oh, not my area mate

OK what I'm reading is as long as it is all done before the codes change your good

[stiff zephyr]

SHOTGUN to break the electrical boxes, you intentionally bug the error codes to spawn faster. This is because the shotgun shells will register as both a hit and a miss in the game. So you get a hit, meaning that the crucible fills up 25%, but because it also registers as a miss, the next code will spawn faster (missed codes will always spawn faster than if you get it right). The HP DPS player inside must immediately call out the error code to the player in the control room. The control room player immediately calls out the visual of what box to break. As long as all of this happens within a few seconds, you will speed up the codes respawning, thus speeding up the encounter.

[vast willow]

Is the ravenous farmable if so how?

[viscid fossil]

you do ih over and over until you get it

[stiff zephyr]

It's raid only, one chance once a week, but most people will drop it

You can kill the final boss 5 times to "farm" the box

[vast willow]

Thank you

[verbal mist]

We tried the same thing and it failed each time . I think it’s pure luck if it works

[vagrant wing]

it's not. You just have to do it fast enough. The tank should be on point to see the code exactly as it spwan and the interpreter should translate it as fast as they can. You should shoot in the box in a matter of 3 sec ish

[verbal mist]

🤔 we are extremely fast on boxes

[vagrant wing]

🤷‍♂️ all the speed teams would disagree with your statement so...

[verbal mist]

I understand

[vagrant wing]

if indeed you guys doing it as fast, shorten callouts should help

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788479700090617916/805203756484001792/unknown.png

credit do @fierce jungle

[verbal mist]

That may be the case

[atomic nova]

So there is some rng associated with scrolling codes but that can be minimized with timing. And the game can just do some weird stuff to mess up the codes. But overall it’s 80%skill and 20%rng

[fierce jungle]

I didn’t make this haha. Don’t remember who did though 🤔

[gilded tulip]

any xbox people doing dh today

[tame sage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/685440977640620072/823473481072115737/stuf.png
I got used to callouts with this picture. All info is combined and ez to memorize. (not mine picture, but I don't remember who was author)

[vagrant wing]

its @upbeat jungle 's picture and as you can clearly see uses the exact callouts

[gloomy dagger]

hello, i am new here. Can i ask what it means RV when ppl lfg for DH? and when can i start DH on normal? thank u guys

[vagrant wing]

raid voice
whenever you feel like it 🙂

[gloomy dagger]

oh, thank u very much. I meant what lvl or skills shout i be at:)

[vagrant wing]

generally speaking if you can handle heroic missions solo with a red DPS build you should be good. If you want a reference point head over to #td2-build-advice and look at the pinned comments

[humble solar]

Speedy boss 2 problems 🤔

[gloomy dagger]

thank u Adler

[tender hollow]

@dapper nova RV1

[thorn haven]

channel 4 last boss dark hours, need 2 plz

[stiff zephyr]

@tender hollow I'm still mad 🦄

[worn ruin]

Can i get regulus parts this week? Just collected all the base materials today. Or do i need to wait weekly raid reset

[signal basin]

Wait for reset

[tough trench]

First raid after the reset (tuesday)

[gilded tulip]

looking for a riad group

[stiff spire]

i’ll join if we can get more people

[gilded tulip]

thats the problem its only me

[stiff spire]

well idk i might have a team but they aren’t on rn i’ll check with them though when i can

[gilded tulip]

thank u

[stiff spire]

Np

[stiff spire]

go into lfg look for a guy named Ghost_garuda

[fierce jungle]

Heads up, y’all are in different platforms

[tender hollow]

Doctor strange spitting facts

[halcyon pebble]

it could work if they believe hard enough

[earnest lark]

Hey anyone here does Headhunter on IH last boss?

[tropic island]

looking for raid group

[trail oriole]

Yeah, what's up?

[earnest lark]

@trail oriole just wondering what’s the typical damage you do on the helmet, and also after the helmet is broken.

[trail oriole]

It's around 25m DMG for helmet break, and an additional 10 or 11 for the kill.

[upbeat mesa]

Helmet dosent take headshot damage, since its a plate. You will need at least 27mil to crack. 11 for kill

[earnest lark]

@trail oriole OK Thanks.

[trail oriole]

You sure it's 27? Pretty sure I've had it crack at mid 25's, but I've been wrong about more important things.

[upbeat mesa]

yeah i mean 25

Full headhuter will deal around 60mil to enemies, since headshot damage dosent count on armor plate that gets cut down to around 43mil @earnest lark

[trail oriole]

Yeah, it's an armor plate so it takes normal dmg and consumes your headhunter stacks to break it.

[fluid pier]

just tell him to take it off question mark

[earnest lark]

Anyone ever test if Achilles will force HSD bonus (from Achilles, not from the HS proc)?

[upbeat mesa]

Yeah Achilies works on plates and will proc hs dmg there

[earnest lark]

Interesting...

[upbeat mesa]

I dont know if sniper turret can proc achillies tho you might have to test that. Also since plating is always the same and dosent accept headshot i would go for the body plating. it has less HP then the helmet on chungas @earnest lark

[earnest lark]

It does. We got 35M yesterday with only a couple of buffs.

[trail oriole]

Is it really worth using Achilles though?

[earnest lark]

Not asking about worth it. Progress requires investigation.

[trail oriole]

I've never tried it nor seen it run on teams tbf

I'm asking if it's worth lol

[upbeat mesa]

then you should be able to crack the chest and even the helmet. its just the achillies it self, you would have to guaratee you mark helmet or chest wich you need overcharge on all 3 chungas

[earnest lark]

@trail oriole Until methods are fully investigated or explored, you cannot really evaluate how “worth it” compares. First you have to flush out and experiment for efficiency.

[tender hollow]

can u not get the achilles pulse anymore for rn atleast?

[tame sage]

You can get mission as season reward

Rn

[west spruce]

Season Level 53 Reward

[sick terrace]

can i join someone?

[upbeat mesa]

look in lfg-raid-pc, this is discussions

[tender hollow]

what is this RV thing

people talk about like rv13

[soft magnet]

Is anyone willing to teach me how to do a division 2 raid?

[cerulean olive]

do bulwark and future initiative backpacks and chestpieces drop from discovery IH?

[fiery stag]

No

[warm ibex]

Its the voice channels
RV=Raid Voice + Nr

[rigid onyx]

For raids yes, you can one shot the bosses with it 😝

[tender hollow]

@livid yarrow am i welcome to join? or only experienced players

[livid yarrow]

you good, im not all the experienced either xD

[vagrant wing]

The real question here will be whether or not you can shoot a specific part of his body. If for example your turret will break up the heavy's head the next shot will have to go onit's head. Alternatively if you won't be able to tell in advance what part you're breaking, you'll make the killer job really hard (and maybe impossible) the they will have to look for the exposed part.
Another thing to consider is the time between the use of the pulse and the marking of the target. There's a delay of 1 sec ish

[cerulean olive]

Is there an easier way to grind for the chestpieces and backpacks of bulwark and futures initiative? Or do I just do the raid weekly

[viscid fossil]

raid on reset that is your best chance to get it

[cerulean olive]

Thanks

[tender hollow]

The more raids you do the more likely someone will drop it for you. The more characters you have the sooner you might get it, as you can get it from each boss on the first run for each, each week. You can also get them from opening the final chest.

[stiff zephyr]

anyone else just have a raid wide crash?

[tender hollow]

@alpine aspen

[alpine aspen]

Yes?

[tender hollow]

could i join, new player and ive played ih once

[alpine aspen]

Full now

[tender hollow]

alright

[primal kayak]

lfg is salty this morning, good, screw each and every one of these toxic little ego kiddies

[fallen nimbus]

Hey guys I have been dwelling in the end game for a while and I wanna start doing raids. Anything a new player needs to have/know?

[verbal mist]

I would check out the pinned spreadsheet on dps builds and such. make sure your geared up and then hop in an lfg and explain its your first time

[fallen nimbus]

thanks 👍

[trail oriole]

I know y'all use it to lay waste to the raids bosses, it was more of a question on whether or not it's worth it for Morozova chungas lol. It just doesn't seem like it'd be consistent enough versus other methods.

[verbal mist]

chungas on morzova use ravenous

never tried achilles on them though

[tender hollow]

Which Classic M1A talent is better in Raids? Boomerang or Rifleman, or are they about the same

[tame sage]

Rifleman gives more damage consistently. But I think it's weaker to mob with.

[fluid pier]

future perfect best rifle talent

[fierce jungle]

Nah perpetuation

[tender hollow]

Tech dps or negotiators with spotter, assault turrent, striker drone and future perfect/in sync = super nasty solo build

[unreal wedge]

is it possible to get the blueberry which stays with the first key chest after raid

[dense delta]

I have a question, is it okay that I'm running pretty much only red builds? I wanted to complete IH raid (later today)

[tame sage]

Thats awesome dude. Red builds are like EDC. You always will find a spot with them

Its worse when people come to raid group with turretdrone and ask where they can go with that

[dense delta]

That's cool

[icy hull]

#lfg-raid-pc

[vagrant wing]

the answer you got is a bit inaccurate. Allow me to elaborate a bit:
Let's say the dmg talent has a multiplier of it's own (i'm not sure about that but let's assume that). Let's also assume that our build has 50% chc with no chd at all and does 100 dmg.

First let's look at Rifleman: our dmg output (assuming we hit all headshots) will be: 6*(100+150)/2 + (15-6)*150 which equal to 2100 (what i did there is to calculate the sequence of 100 + 110 + 120 + ... + 150 and then add 9*150 shots that left in our magazine)

As for our Boomerang: our chances to proc that talent comes from our chc - in other words we have 0.5*0.5 = 0.25 chance to get the bullet back to the mag and do 0.4 more dmg. in a mag of 15 bullets we'll get average of 3 bullets back. so our dmg will be: 100*15 + 3*100*1.4 = 1920
Now if we had 60% chc the dmg will be 100*15 + 4*100*1.4 = 2060
To summarize : Rifleman out dmg Boomerang only in edge cases (i.e. burning down a boss from point blank range or you're a hsd god) in every other case Boomerang will most likely be better

(replied to the wrong msg. sorry about that)

[tender hollow]

Thank you @vagrant wing for the analytical anwser

[vagrant wing]

np. I reckon that with 54% chc you'll get the same effect as 60%

and ofc all of these calculation were done per mag and not per shot. As rifleman will always be on top

[azure fossil]

Anyone have a link or info regarding enemy total HP values, including raid bosses? DH & IH or both

[tender hollow]

what

[stiff zephyr]

nvm

Every IH boss has the players organised in a nice semi circle/ hollow square (f off speedruners lol), other than the 3rd. Is this why people wipe here the most? A full circle is to complicated

[west spruce]

Williams fight have many mechanics along the way until the fight starts that could cause cascading effect, especially hardened foam that causes players to be exposed to direct fire by NPCs. He also has poison trail around him and his oxidizer that could damage a whole group really quickly, if the dps is unable to keep his healing box disabled the fight could go on longer than necessary, in that event it's the NPCs (Snipers, Heavies, Turret Engineer) that spawns all around if weren't cleared that could cause the fight to be harder than Gray & Fieser fight.

[stiff zephyr]

You sir have a great understanding of jokes

[normal mirage]

i didn't get the joke either 😦

[stiff zephyr]

nvm then, I have a shit idea of jokes

😦

[untold peak]

wat.

[azure ruin]

Who doesn’t love floor in this game ? There is satisfaction watching “waiting for wipe” screen. If you are casual runner, its perfectly fine to embrace wipes... speedrunners on other hand doesn’t like to spend much time on bosses so they tend to finish it faster and move onto next boss.

[west spruce]

@azure fossil https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/j9f70y/dark_hours_and_iron_horse_boss_armor/

[azure fossil]

Thanks Stellar, I've seen this one before but was not sure if it is accurate -- but it does seem about right. Just wanted clarification particularly on Dizzy & Ricochet

[royal gale]

Hey, i only got back into the game recently and haven't done the DH raid but KWTD, how long would it take to complete

[narrow sleet]

The DH Raid? Really depends on your team. A decent team that maybe wipes 2 or 3 times that raid may take around 45 mins to 1 hour. But if you get a bad team, expect an hour and a half to 2 hrs.

[upbeat mesa]

a good LFG team with exp takes around 20min

[royal gale]

cool thanks

[modest smelt]

Who wants to play raid with me?

[wary dagger]

hello, i recently moved from xbox to pc and i want to do a raid. The question is how do you invite each other to a raid group?

[vapid briar]

You need to be friends on Uplay with the raid leader, so he can invite you.

[wary dagger]

ok, thanks 😄

[prisma imp]

hey im new to the game and want to experience raids if somebody would be able to teach it to me pls

[trail girder]

start with dh
im kinda new too but dh is easier then ih

[tender hollow]

Hey im on xbox and looking for a raid group can anyone help

[stiff zephyr]

play pc

[fickle stratus]

I raid just because I'm bored. I think I have a problem?

[halcyon pebble]

nah thats what people do, this game got nothing else to do lmao

[shrewd ember]

Question, if i have loot lockout, i can't get chest or backpack Bulwark or Initiative drops right?

[tender hollow]

Yes. You can only get the chest and backpack on the first run of the week for that character from the bosses, and every time you open the final chest. Also if someone else gets it, they can drop it for you.

[verbal mist]

😂🤣 well I run around 5-6 a day lately . I understand. Met a bunch of players though .

[willow osprey]

How did you run so many with barely anyone even lfg

[solemn burrow]

Protection from elites is it good idea? I can put up to 80%?

[vagrant wing]

Good idea for? in what context?

[sonic frigate]

Hello guys

[tame sage]

I use it for morozowa, mainly if i do rockets. Turret, mortars, rpg lady, morozowa - are elites, so you protect yourself from them quite effectively. Also, electric field in garage elite too, could help survive some pharadei attempts.

you can even be stagger tank with that, 3-4 blue cores enough to protect team behind your shield, while you almost undying when face morozowa

[verbal mist]

Not sure your question but there are a bunch of lfg posts everyday

[willow osprey]

On XB1 maybe yes

[hearty tulip]

Any IH Raid ?

[verbal mist]

yes i see a ton daily . I know which ones to stay away from

[willow osprey]

Which is?

[verbal mist]

xbox members . wont mention names here

i dont tolerate toxic asshats

[tender hollow]

Im stuck on iron horse

Im stuck on iron horse boss can anyone help?"

/Join Kongrice

[lilac tartan]

Any raid activity?

[exotic umbra]

is there a point for raids after you finished the projects and exotics?

[radiant delta]

Yes you can learn more roles, try new strats, try getting a better time

[tender hollow]

I completed the Regulus project, unlocked it and played quite a bit with it and now I've got the Future Initiative + Foundry Bulwark project again. I only have 1 character. Whats going on/

[light swallow]

@tender hollow I had the same thing as well when I was playing. I think it's a bug but you can do the stuff again to get another Regulus.

[tender hollow]

Seeing a completed project again tingles my OCD

[covert storm]

Can any1 tell me what the ideal sequence is with razorback? I mean when to break front/back and when prep/destroy.

[tender hollow]

For a LFG, if the group has dps to burn it doesn't matter. If not, put two very strong dps on 2 and 3 circles, then ideally

1. Break back, prep front
2. Break front, prep back (2 and 3 circles help in the front)
3. Break back, prep front
4. Break front (2 and 3 circles help in the front)
   But its up to the person calling when to go into the circles to decide, as sometimes using different order is better

[uneven garden]

Question: I see a red ⚔️ when scoped in on chunga from far back in morozova. Anyone know what that is

[gusty willow]

Maybe from spotter drone?

[uneven garden]

nah @gusty willow suspicion was our of range but it wasn’t

[gusty wharf]

so if im running 4 piece hard wired, one as backpack. what are my 2 other pieces? 2 hanna U? or whats the best to go for if i want to kill those drones at dh raid?

[vagrant wing]

Usually 1 wyven (chest with a skill dmg dealing talent of some sort) and BTSU gloves. It can vary a bit tho

[gusty wharf]

thanky you verry much

also my 7 future raid member will thank you too

[vagrant wing]

np. Make you calculate your skill dmg %. You'll need 90% or above to one shot the drones (the calculations must include the talent on the chest)

[covert storm]

Thank you Ninja for your reply. And only reason for changing the order would be if one side is lacking dps?

[upbeat mesa]

Yes.

Most of the time front has less dps bc of 2 reasons. The drone killer build sits in front, bc between 1 and 4 is a save spot where he don't get mortared. That means you have 1 less dps there. Second reason is that in the back all 4 can see both weak points from all positions, whereas in the front the left and right weak point is kinda hidden so the dps there have to rotate wich makes in automatically slower aswell.

[flint nebula]

Who's a good youtuber to watch to learn the raids

[peak pond]

Do you have a chance at EB in DH when you open the chest for a second time in the same week?

[storm badge]

Yes

[silent roost]

Do I need to get a dlc to access raids or are there free ones cause I finished the story but I haven’t got on the game in like 4-6 months

[solemn flame]

you don't need dlc for the raids, but you do need to be on world tier 5.

[silent roost]

Ok definitely gonna work on that then I’m world tier 2

[tame sage]

Just saw, that my damage heavily drop down in sniper build. And what do you think is the reason? Ranger talent DECREASE your damage based on range. I'm not kidding. It goes down after 30~m at shooting range. If someone could check on their part, that would be cool. Maybe it's only me

[viscid fossil]

in a raid or missions?

[tame sage]

Saw that in raid and then checked at shooting range. Same thing, damage goes down at big range

[viscid fossil]

depends on the weapon you use aswell most weapons have damage fall off

[tame sage]

so ranger works only for rifles and sniper rifles? It useless for AR?

[split spear]

it helps reduce the effects of damage drop off but it is definitely meant for rifles and marksman rifles

[tame sage]

ty

[west spruce]

There is a damage drop off chart in the Handling Section of your weapon, you can't be expecting a shotgun with ranger talent to give you more damage to enemy standing 50m away from you, the damage dropoff for shotgun archtype will negate the damage buff you get from Ranger.

[tame sage]

ye, now I know. Didn't saw that untill I change language of the game to english. In english this graph called "Damage drop off", when in ru it's "Optimal range". Never knew, what is optimal range until now...1k hours in div2 btw lol.

[wicked jay]

@tender hollow Hey, when are you / your group raiding again ?

[tender hollow]

We raid daily, raids are posted for sign ups in our discord

[uneven forum]

Guys can i get foundry bulwark backpack on a second run ?

[alpine aspen]

Not the same week

Unless its a diff char @uneven forum

[uneven forum]

Okay .. i m sure i didn't got it on the first run .. is it normal?

[alpine aspen]

I'm missing it too

[uneven forum]

Ohh

[alpine aspen]

its just rng

[uneven forum]

And can regulus drop on targeted loot in summit?

[alpine aspen]

No

Not unless you have done the project to get it (got the blueprint i think)

[uneven forum]

After the project for regulus pop ups .. does the parts for it drop in a sequence like 1st 2nd 3rd boss or its just RNG

[alpine aspen]

It's pre set im pretty sure

[uneven forum]

Preset means drops are guaranteed like nemesis parts? Or its RNG like for example chatterbox drops

[alpine aspen]

guaranteed

[uneven forum]

Okay thanks for that info.. last question.. why are u sad

[alpine aspen]

Yes

[uneven forum]

Btw .. this week on a fresh run .. i got ravenous from the box ..

Its soo powerfull

[dense delta]

I'm missing future chest after I ran the raid twice

[stiff zephyr]

@tender hollow

[uneven forum]

I m too

[azure fossil]

does anyone know the trigger for the IH open door glitch, or if it can be replicated?

[delicate mantle]

reset raid progression before creating

[fluid pier]

Reset raid progression before starting.

[fluid pier]

JINX

[delicate mantle]

🤔

[frozen bramble]

Is there a group that can help me learn how to do the raid and get keys?

[tender hollow]

type in the lfg raid that u are looking for a group for raiding, have a look at the rv (raid voices) and opp into a group. tell em that u are not expieiencend and i bet they will u carry throu. if u wanna learn about mechanics in a raid dont hesitate to ask the group. good luck 😃

[frozen bramble]

@tender hollow think you

[tender hollow]

np man you are welcome

[azure fossil]

lol is that all? whatever works

[delicate mantle]

yeah pretty much

[verbal mist]

stupid gun range is so glitched. have you tested open world ?

[tender hollow]

hi guys where is the 2nd raid key located in Dark hours?

[verbal mist]

2 and 3 are in the baggage area . One you will need someone to run to the elevator and the other is in back and you have to throw a grenade in the window above the door to blow door open

[long sky]

do the door 1st then run for the elevator countdown wont start until you step in room

[long niche]

is there any issues going on with the Morozova fight where the Rocket adds start failing to spawn on Phase 2?

Does something lock the RPG enemies back?

[vapid briar]

yeah, when there's a rocket left over in the furnace

[tough trench]

@long niche I've got that happen when we hit two at the same time on the shell

We better reset right away instead of waiting for a wipe near the end.

[tender hollow]

thanks @verbal mist

[brave saddle]

Why people use true patriot instead of Bullwark?

[long sky]

Your choice

[brave saddle]

@long sky no, there must be a reason behind using the true patriot. I want to know that reason.

[solemn burrow]

Bullwark is only for u, true patriot is for all group

[tender hollow]

@brave saddle You can give everyone extra damage and reduced damage buffs from TP. One guy used to sherpa DH raids using TP on the first 3 bosses

[teal briar]

anyone wanna help me get eagle bearer ? kinda confused on how to get it

[stiff zephyr]

Run the DH raid, there is a chest at the end you can open (easily; you can kill the last boss 5 times afterwards to get keys) once a week and the EB can drop from it

[glass sail]

Can anyone help with dark hours ı didint find team

[long sky]

Goto #lfg-raid- what ever you play on

[verbal mist]

The door can be done after the room is cleared , it’s not time gated

[long sky]

@verbal mist I was talking the elevator

[wary tendon]

What does "RV" in the LFG channel stand for?

[stiff zephyr]

Raid Voice

[wary tendon]

got it, thanks

[icy hull]

Better late then never.

Tanking in Div is more then just tanking damage, it's also about providing good group support to make up for your lack of damage. TP tank does this better than FB tank, hence why TP tanks is the better tall shield tank.

FB crusader tank does it too, but requires much smarter play since using crusader shield (FB+ crusader + scorpio + galvanize

[tender hollow]

Bruh

[empty arch]

dumb idea I'm wondering if anyone's ever tried

for control room on fieser, do enemies come close enough underneath or by the doors to proc ad rush?

I'm reaching for what bp talent to write into my build guide

[frosty remnant]

You get it off the nades.

[empty arch]

I'm thinking perhaps overclock if it applies to self, energize if there's any down time to actually get a kit off so you don't burn your BTSU unnecessarily

adrush if it would actually proc from within the control room

[frosty remnant]

I run armor regen with leadership in the control room. Helps the whole team in a major way.

Key to running regen up top is four bulwark with the chest

[empty arch]

that's not the control room build I'm writing

this is a t6 hyper heal build

drone and hive, 1pc R&K, 2pc kami, 2pc alps, BTSU

[frosty remnant]

I would still consider leadership. The talent on the BP for that build isn't gonna add a ton of value anyways

[tender hollow]

@frosty remnant what is your build including specialisation, attributes, mods, etc and do you need to heal when the glass breaks?

[wind cliff]

about cogs in IH williams encounter, can keyboards with fancy rgb settings imitate the sound such as leds strobe each click? I'm curious to see if it is possible since I'm deaf and can't hear jack shit got the answer, thanks

[cyan coyote]

Okay so not sure if this is the right place to ask. But I want to throw a build together for the iron horse raid. Can I get some help?

[vagrant wing]

You better start off with the "Meta DPS" build and as you learn and progress you can create the other builds necessary for that specific raid. If you have no idea what the "Meta DPS" build is head over to #td2-build-advice and look at the pinned comments you'll get the idea from there

[cyan coyote]

Thank you

[sonic frigate]

Is there any announcement about Matchmaking Normal?

[tame sage]

we have it one channel down below :<

[dense delta]

nope

[tender hollow]

They will never matchmake for Normal. If you have even tried more than 5 Discovery Iron Horses, you will know why.

I think my success rate for Dark Hours Normal organised via in game general channel chat is like 2 completions out of 40.

[frosty remnant]

@tender hollow four bullwork. Need to use the chest. Burn resistance mods with demo. Go for 100% burn resistance and armor regen on everything. If you min max it you won't even need to pop your skills in the control room.

[tender hollow]

Fantastic. I'm going to farms the bits and try by this weekend.

[frosty remnant]

I run leadership on the backpack to help the team but you don't need it

[rigid onyx]

Hey gamers!

[pallid brook]

whatb is a good gear score to start doing raids at?

[tender hollow]

All you need is a decent dps all red core build. if you have >50chc and >150chd, which is recommended, you will have better gear than most first timers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBZpJB6sYGM
but use a ceska instead of the fenris. Dont use glass canon the first couple of times you do the raid

[wary dagger]

@tardy gazelle Thanks for the Ravenous! I never expected that someone would be so kind to give this weapon. It was my first time doing IH. THANK YOU!!! And also thanks to everyone who helped me to do this raid.😀

[tardy gazelle]

@wary dagger its a game and we are here to enjoy it ❤️ 👍

[pseudo kite]

PS4 Iron Horse. I have a raid build. 2 or 3 completions and need need to do a complete run cause I'm on my project for Rugulus. Looking for a team that needs 1, I'd like to join. PSN is Castle_Cage

[sour python]

anyone want to join a raid

[valid marlin]

If you are looking for people to raid with use the lfg channels right underneath this one, as this one is for discussions (as it says in the channel name).

PC: #lfg-raid-pc
Xbox: #578577794561474571
PS4: #lfg-raid-console

[wary grail]

Have the raids reset yet?

[dense delta]

Yes, they are reseted

[trail girder]

is perfect glass cannon all red good for ih?

[vagrant wing]

depends on your skill, your team's skill and your knowledge of the spawn points

[loud plinth]

true

[grave yarrow]

Beat morosova for the 1st time last night, woot woot. Thats probably the 8th or 9th attempt at random matchmaking

[loud plinth]

nice

[warm ibex]

Matchmaking? So discovery?

[grave yarrow]

Yes

@warm ibex

[warm ibex]

thats even more impressive

[solemn flame]

now you need to do the real raid..... on normal. raid exclusive exotics (& keys) only drop on normal difficulty.

[regal mortar]

Could anybody on Playstation let me know what the Fastest time for Dark hours is on the leaderboard currently?

[dense slate]

@regal mortar 8m50.312s

[regal mortar]

@dense slate cheers buddy

[glass sail]

dark hours will come, let it write your name

[grave yarrow]

@solemn flame didn't know that, thx will try matchmaking for it

[solemn flame]

there is no matchmaking for normal raid, you need to get a team together before you go in.

[proud loom]

i need to get a start on farming DH, any tips?

[uneven forum]

Guys is 54% CHC good ? Or should it be 60%

[warm lark]

higher is better

[dense delta]

54% would work

what about your CHD?

[terse bronze]

Thank you very much to the raid gamers for getting me through the first IH that was pretty dope \ 😄 /

[uneven forum]

Guys ... if i have regulus project active .. i get regulus part guaranteed from ih? And should it be a fresh raid ?

[magic fulcrum]

yes

[tawdry widget]

@uneven forum needs to be your first raid after reset

otherwise they won't drop

[uneven forum]

Ok tq

[upper crag]

does anyone want to do a raid with me and my 2 friends to get the exotic weapon?

[abstract rover]

How long does Raid usually take?

I never tried one

[dense delta]

dh around 40 mins I think, IH about an hour

[tawdry island]

Or several hours if group sucks😀

[dense delta]

oof

[river summit]

where can i go to find other raid discords for beginners ? send me links would like to do my first raid.

[cerulean dawn]

How difficult are raids in terms of the other standard difficulties. Are they about equal to heroic difficulties on the main strongholds and stuff?

[proud loom]

difficulty kinda depends on whether everyone knows what to do
they're super difficult if you're new tho, like on a whole other level

[cerulean dawn]

So I assume its more just mechanics and stuff that are hard to figure out if you are new but the actual enemy difficulty and tankiness isnt terrible.

[vagrant wing]

the enemy dmg and tankiness are equivalent roughly to 2 man Heroic ish (usually slightly less than one mag of an AR with a full red build to kill an elite). However as StaydC said the difficulty comes from the team work involve and not the adds or the mechanics even

[proud loom]

IH is more mechanic oriented, but yeah basically

[cerulean dawn]

Sounds good, thanks for the help.

[proud loom]

np

[coral raven]

You gotta respect enemies though or they will kill you pretty fast.

[waxen rover]

how do i get the special keys in the raid?

[magic fulcrum]

there hidden cases through iron horse

ask the team if anyone knows where the cases are

[stiff zephyr]

One after 1st
2 After second
1 After 3rd
1 always dropped by Moz

[proud loom]

i need a group to run DH with

[tender hollow]

Any raid group?

[proud loom]

any group that's not gonna go off at me if i mess up lol

[icy hull]

@tender hollow @proud loom wrong channel, please use the #578577794561474571

[proud loom]

aight

[cerulean dawn]

Any opinions on skill builds vs red builds in the raids

[vagrant wing]

except for certain ones on certain bosses - they're not as good

[tender hollow]

DPS full red builds are just better in general in Raids. I think the speedrunners use a non-healer skill build in 1 out of the 8 roles x 16 locations. You can use a non healing skill build, which people sometimes do for fun, a challenge or when they roleplay or dont have a dps build.

[ripe stag]

To get the Dark hours merit, it says to complete Dark Hours on STORY difficulty. Should they have called it "Discovery" instead? Or is "story" something else I am not aware of?

[cerulean dawn]

Yeah right now I run the standard turret+drone dps skill build. I find I cant really get the same dps and survivability from any red builds as I do my skill build. Granted Ive put lots of time into that build vs the other red builds but I dont see the damage ceiling being higher for a red build then I get from my current skill build. I consistently put up the highest dps for when I just matchmake heroic missions so I guess I am wondering why the preference for red builds in raids. Is it just the way the raid missions are built?

[ripe stag]

yes, the raid isn't just shoot everything with everything you've got

sometimes, you need to balance your damage, and other times, you need to stop firing completely

with a drone, turret, and capacitor, I know you can really put down the damage...but one of those items is stationary and can't hit any target you may choose on a whim

[tender hollow]

^ An optimised red build can kill mobs faster than a optimised skill damage build. Maybe the exception is an optimised artillery turret build.

[cerulean dawn]

Yeah, that's kinda what I was expecting why red is better for raids. I'll keep working on mine then and hopefully be able to raids soon. I've got lots of the necessary pieces thankfully.

[safe cosmos]

define necessary

Cus there is alot of diffrent opinions regarding talents

[cerulean dawn]

I have coyotes mask, fox's prayer, and the contractors gloves all rolled pretty high cd (cr on the mask). Just need the last 3 pieces and a better ar.

[charred void]

you'll do more damage with 1 piece fenris in your build rather than contractors (i have both godrolled, and tested it thoroughly)

so 3 pc providence, 1 pc fenris, fox's prayers and then either coyote's or a grupo sombra piece if theres already enough coyote's on the team

[civic dagger]

think the grupo/3rd prov might not beat the contractor's

it's pretty close though like fractions of a percentage

ultimately doesn't really matter

[icy hull]

Er well contractors beats all in damage vs armor but loses because of its non armor dump. Iirc in red build, Contractors is 3% higher DTA but 10% lower vs non armor, compared to grupo.

[civic dagger]

yea that sounds about right, doesn't really matter which one you run really those kinda fractions don't matter at all

[icy hull]

not fractions FYI

and "10% lower damage" does in fact matter. (well if you care about min max)

[cerulean dawn]

Im not at the point of min maxing raids, hell I havent even done 1 yet. Just getting a build ready first then I think Ill worry about the min maxing of damage.

[civic dagger]

it's about ~7% better vs health against ~1% better vs armour so the difference in ttk against an elite is pretty much the same give or take 1%? Red bars will melt to either stupidly quick but prov will have the edge

[cerulean dawn]

Are they mostly health damage in the raids? I find in the overworlds on heroic its mostly armour that takes the time to get through. I can melt through HP in about 1/10 the time it takes to take down the armour.

[civic dagger]

I would say elites are the main issue, red bars show up pretty infrequently and melt instantly

[stiff zephyr]

Nah armor in raids is more the issue

[vagrant wing]

i don't know where you got that number from - but that's not true at all

[cerulean dawn]

Yeah so the armor shred would be helpful on the contractors gloves vs (I think) the CD/CR

[civic dagger]

did some napkin maths with a generic build

[vagrant wing]

might want to review that. Just saying. In my calculation 8% DTA is equal roughly to 20% chd (_on certain builds)

on armored enemies ofc

[civic dagger]

ya, that sounds about right. Swapping in a grupo/prov piece does end up adding about 22% chd

15% from the brand, 12% from the extra talent compared to 8% dta and a wasted brand talent

but then due to overcapping crit it drops a bit

[vagrant wing]

no they don't (if you have 12% chd on your contractors)

[civic dagger]

but you do gain 6% crit chance from the gloves so you can add a bit of crit from weapon mods

ends up being like 20% chd and 1% extra chc then

[vagrant wing]

i highly disagree but let's leave it at that

[civic dagger]

contractor's does end up winning by 1% on armour in this scenario

[cerulean dawn]

in the end ill probably just get mowed down by the elites so it wont matter too much 😛 All those red cores leave nothing for survivalbility

[civic dagger]

unbreakable might help ya out a bit, and if it's IH during some phases there's probably someone running tardi

raid enemies aren't a whole lot harder than heroic enemies and there are enough other players around that you should be aight

[cerulean dawn]

True, I can carry a 3 man heroic pretty easily. Im not too concerned about it in all honesty was just wanting some insight onto why reds over skill builds and it spawned into all this.

[tender hollow]

My difference is 15CHD with contractors/with groupo. I have +10 headshot on the groupo as I dont need more CHC.

[cerulean dawn]

@tender hollow My aim is not that good lol

[vagrant wing]

not really. Consider the following build:
Fox's, Contractors, 3 Prov 1 Grupo.
chc: 10(watch) + 10(prov) + 4*6 (attributes) = 44 (the rest can be gained from the weapon mods)
chd: 20 (watch) + 12*6 (72) + base + weapon which will end up pretty high. Now you tell me how you gonna gain 20% more chd
and all that ofc assuming you're criting each shot (which ofc isn't the case)

[tender hollow]

weapon handling is ok too. some people will deliberately put in x3 weapon handling attributes

[civic dagger]

well just swapping in the providence gives +6% chc (attribute) and +15% chd (brand) at the cost of -8% dta
this ends up overcapping chc (up to 65%) so you can do what ninja did and trade the 6% chc for 10% hsd (gain 10% hsd and 15% chd, lose 8% dta)
or you can trade a 5% chc weapon mod for 5% chd (gain 1% chc and 20% chd, lose 8% dta)

the damage comes out very similar either way really, I personally do run contractor's just cause it's convenient and I can swap in LMGs if I want

If ya wanna move it to DMs so we don't shit up chat I can try justify it better

[cerulean dawn]

Im always curious to learn new shit, plus I love spreadsheets and math, send it along.

[rigid crescent]

Im new in playing Raid: Why some write "No Key, no loot" or sth like that?

[civic dagger]

They want to get through the raid really quickly so they don't grab keys

[rigid crescent]

Thanks

[peak pond]

tanking for IH, 4 piece bulwark, 1 piece belstone and pointman. Do i roll explosive resistance or hazard protection?

[sharp spire]

What shd level is required for raid?

[proud loom]

none i believe, but it's suggest that you're experienced or have a team that's cool carrying you :)

[delicate mantle]

regen or hazpro, regen is more useful lfgwise so you can self sustain, but hazpro is used for certain strategies

[tame sage]

you must have 94+ fire resistance to be a tank at 2nd IH boss

[tender hollow]

ideally very high haz pro/burn for boss 2 and 3, and regen instead for boss 4 (just makes things a bit cruisier). demolitionist will give you +20 burn resistance.

[tame sage]

I prefer 3 Gila+1Yahl+1Bellstone+Improvised and swap yahl at 4th boss for another improvise. Allowing me to have 100 burn, ensnare and shock at 3rd boss, and 60 prot from elite at 4th boss.
Protection from elites gives you the best defensive stat at morozowa, cuz almost everything there is elite (morozowa, green laser, electric field, turret, mortars)
(build is up to you, but I highly recommend at least try prot. from elite)

[valid marlin]

@sullen sphinx Please read the rules:

5. Any kind of advertisements are not allowed. No plugging of your content in the standard channels.

[peak pond]

The regulus project is not shared is it? For example I just need the components now, will I be able to run the raid and get them on a fresh run or do I have to wait after reset

fresh run on a new character I mean

[tough trench]

Each character get the same project once you complete your first raid with it. So its individual.
But once you get Regulus on one, you can equip it on the next character so then next week you can get another regulus.

No need to complete the project with every character, just one and wait for reset to get it.

[peak pond]

ahh I see, thanks!

[peak pond]

The exotic component dropping won't screw up with getting other exotic drops does it? I think I will keep it that way so I can drop regulus for new people running the raid lol

[tough trench]

No, you can change it between your character through the stash, but you Can't share with other players.

[peak pond]

Ahh I see thanks

[waxen rain]

quick question
What do you need to do when it is blue in 2nd ih boss?
ik there's some valves on 2nd floor but do you just turn all of them?

[delicate mantle]

you probably mean third boss, blue diagnostics/pressure is when you have to press 3 valves on the second floor leaking steam

[waxen rain]

yeah 3rd mb
so just press them
and press blue panel

no need to time them or anything right

[delicate mantle]

nah

[waxen rain]

i see

[delicate mantle]

you just can't press while you're disoriented

[waxen rain]

can you also explain the diagnostics and letter ?
from what i know there's a panel with the 3 colors and when one of them is lighten up i need to hold diagnostics and wait for them to press that panel right?

[delicate mantle]

diagnostics is the 1st phase of boss 3, you have to get through pressing 3 colored panels before being able to progress to the cogs phase

yellow consists of 3 sparking boxes around the room
blue are 3 valves on the 2nd floor of the tower
red is looking for a flaming red valve on red/ry/by sides, pressing diagnostics and panel thereafter (which is usually skipped by pressing diagnostics button first and instantly pressing red panel)

[waxen rain]

nvm i can't read apparently

i see , thank you
if you got some more free time can you also explain the letters? how do i know which ones go down an up and what does that mean

[delicate mantle]

letters come after cogs phase and are within turret phase, where the boss will get on 3 turrets around the room - meanwhile, knobs on the tower in the middle A-P are letters, while there's a screen on the 3rd floor that becomes active

[waxen rain]

does the screen show - and + symbols or what does it show

[delicate mantle]

the screen shows sets of 4 letters per screen, indicating whether they're +, -, or level

[waxen rain]

random letters or alphabetical order?

[delicate mantle]

alphabetical order

[waxen rain]

i see
sounds easy enough? how about shooting the valves downstairs?

[delicate mantle]

so A-D, E-H, I-L, M-P on separate screens respectively - the person on the platform shooting the letters have to level out the valves according to what the screen on the top shows

when you get it correct, pressure buildup from the tower stops and enables everyone to focus on the boss dps

[waxen rain]

i see
Does the person upstairs see if the guy downstairs hit the letters right?

[delicate mantle]

on the screen it will show whether it's level or not, so for example Alpha up, Charlie down is called - the person on the bottom has to shoot the valves in the corresponding directions to level the letters

[dusky mirage]

Are the regulus crafting components guaranteed drops from the bosses (the pistol bits)

[signal basin]

On a fresh weekly run, yes. 1 from each boss, 1 from the chest

[dusky mirage]

Nice thanks

[coral raven]

can anyone share a good headhunter build for final boss of IH? i see people using aces or tip of spear, and others using high end

[fluid pier]

You just need a chainkiller and a nemesis on your build and you’re all set.

[vagrant wing]

blue HH build with a nemesis incoming 😱

[tender hollow]

We even snipe with yellow cores from time to time 😂

[vagrant wing]

you can't break the helmet with it can you?

[tender hollow]

Need to be full stack. 24 mil to break the helmet

[coral raven]

Why chainkiller? Perfect headhunter doesnt add any dmg, it just stacks a little faster. An airaldi chest with headhunter is better isnt it?

[fluid pier]

You're going to want fast stacks if you're planning to teleport keys + airaldi does not affect tac50 which you will need for certain chungas.

[coral raven]

didnt know airaldi didnt boost the tac 50. does aces and eights not boost it either?

[magic fulcrum]

nope

[proud loom]

isn't Tip of the Spear the only set that affects specialisations?

[icy hull]

Yes and no. Spec weapons are affected by different things. IE flamer by status effects. Demo by explosive, Sharpshooter by HSD and WD and TWD and all by amps of course..

[scenic sedge]

Anyone on pc want to raid Dark Hours?

[warm wren]

@scenic sedge please use #lfg-raid-pc

[glossy fable]

Anyone know how much HP the drones have at RB? (roughly). Not looking for a "you need x skill dmg" answer, looking for the raw dmg needed to kill one

[verbal mist]

@glossy fable not arguing but why you want this info ? Curious as I run drones a lot

[vagrant wing]

Between 3.7M to 4.5M (some has 3.7 some 4.5)

[sour shuttle]

who is down for iron horse? raid voice 10 🙂

[glossy fable]

Testing various builds for the jammer, and just using very start of Tombs mission to kill those drones and see raw dmg numbers

[glossy fable]

My current build does 4.2, and never misses a kill, so not sure about some having 4.5?

[vagrant wing]

That's the numbers i got from the 'combat numbers' in the game

[dense delta]

haha I got scared for shit because I couldn't open the raid chest 😆

[acoustic phoenix]

yeah bro just run skill tier with skill damage

[vagrant wing]

Skill tier doesn't boost your skill dmg actually

[cerulean dawn]

It does boost damaging skills though

[glossy fable]

I'm just talking about the emp pulse for this discussion

[vagrant wing]

Does 'feel' like it or not has nothing to do with it. You can check the jammer description for yourself :)

[cerulean dawn]

Yeah I think I came into the discussion a little late. Myb on that

[hearty vessel]

I've never played the raids, I assume you need a good build for it?

What's a good setup to run so I know what to look for?

#td2-build-advice

[cerulean dawn]

Standard red is commonly seen as a good one for a beginner just to dish out dmg. I think the numbers that get thrown around a lot is 50CHC/150CHD minimum. I assume 50CHC cause someones gonna run Coyotes

[stiff zephyr]

This is always interesting so let's hear it,
Ih control room drone or chem
Personality heavily in the drone squad with incoming repairs but let's hear other people's opinion

[tough trench]

Drone lasts longer and allows to interact better with everything. Even better thing that when its about to break overcharge gives it immediately back so don't even need the hive. You can throw it down in case tank need it.

[stiff zephyr]

Correct answer

[normal mirage]

have to be careful with drone as it doesnt always follow you. Sometimes it gets stuck

[west spruce]

Standard FI healer with Chem launcher, you can pop heals to Airlock A/C for dps that requires your healing, or pop heal to tank in the forge, or pop chem launcher to top A/C wall for dps that handles the heavy/purple add. Healing them also heals you due to FI effect. No worries about drones getting stuck or unable to heal at times as you move around, double tap to drop chem on the feet if need be. Instead of of healing only yourself within the control room you can partake by sustaining your teammates outside the control room.

[fluid pier]

Healing traps and healing seeker mines super OP for control room 😏

[rigid onyx]

I heard having a red blue and yellow on each piece is a great build? I put one together and it is super good. You should try it Lunarna!

[stiff zephyr]

Do you run this is healing skill mods or Incoming repair?

[west spruce]

It's a standard FI healer, so skill haste.

[stiff zephyr]

thanks

[verbal mist]

Adler has a point . My all red hw build with sd on all pieces does in fact kill drones

[tender hollow]

skill tier gives you a larger radius. 0 skill tier means you need to jam close to razorback

[gaunt turtle]

This chest peice if Bulwark carrier comes with the same name?

In raid?

[signal basin]

Yes. Foundry bulwark and future initiative chest and backs come from IH raid. On normal

[fluid pier]

Oh damn! I just tried it and it’s amazing! Good catch with the build itsastro!!!

[peak pond]

For tanking in IH would true patriot be better for the debuff

[tender hollow]

If you can stay alive and it helps the team more than not using it, then yes, otherwise no.
For example in Boss 3, maybe using red dps hazard (one extreme) or a vanguard/galvanise (the other extreme) may help the team more
It depends on your team, the more experienced the more aggressive you can be, the less experience the opposite

[tender hollow]

Just did iron horse. Damn that was hard.

[ancient shadow]

hi all , i need future initiative backpack and chest is it IH or DH ??

[proud loom]

IH

[ancient shadow]

ok and if i already did it but got bulwark can i do it again

?

[proud loom]

yep

[ancient shadow]

dont realy know how raids work

[proud loom]

from experience the pieces are pretty hard to get, i have like 30 completions of IH and have only gotten the FI backpack

[ancient shadow]

pfff thts demotivating allot 😛

[proud loom]

it's worth it

[ancient shadow]

i need it for the projects

[proud loom]

both sets are pretty awesome

that too

[ancient shadow]

i need the regulus

[proud loom]

if you raid with someone who already has it, i believe the 4th boss can drop it for them

[ancient shadow]

ok i ask then

[vagrant wing]

you need to realize that you have the chance to get the pieces only on you first clear of the week or from the chest at the end. That's means that clears past the first one of the week won't yeild in any drops unless you open the chest

[ancient shadow]

@vagrant wing damn you are making it harder

[proud loom]

raids are a next level grind

[ancient shadow]

ye i noticed

[vagrant wing]

it is what it is. The regulus suppose to be a time gate thing (at least 3 weeks) so...

[proud loom]

3 weeks isn't that bad, it took me longer to get the Nemesis

[ancient shadow]

i did IH twice and DH once so need to step up

nemesis i got

yesterday ^^

ok ty guys gonna feed the little one then raids it is

[proud loom]

good luck

[ancient shadow]

thx for the info

[vocal plume]

If anyone playing raid in normal.. Invite me..

[wary grail]

If I need let’s say a fb backpack and i have already played the raid once. Do I have to wait for next week or can I still get mor fb that same week?

[vagrant wing]

#td2-raid-discussions message

you can always ask you teammates tho

[thorn cosmos]

You can still get gear drops from Bosses/ADS during the same week. Just ask others in the RAID to drop what you need and you will probably get it much sooner.

[gusty wharf]

id like to do the gingerbread men and blueberry bear commendation. how are the chances of a raid for this is happening here?

[fallen epoch]

Slim

[verbal mist]

"You can still get gear drops from Bosses/ADS during the same week." ads dont drop gear in raids. Just bosses

[glossy fable]

Ya also have 7 other people that can drop the pieces for you, if they already have

[verbal mist]

👆🏼

[thorn cosmos]

That may be true, In the last several IH and DH runs I've done, there has been a bunch of drops on the ground not just where the Boss died. Possibly other players dropping gear randomly throughout the map.

[tawdry widget]

That's what happened, adds don't drop loot on either raid

[wintry prism]

Is there a resource for learning the LFG shorthand? Looking to start my Regulus journey.

[stiff zephyr]

Looking For Group
Looking For X (more players)
Iron Horse
Dark Hours
Raid Voice X

thats it really

[wintry prism]

RV was my confusion. Thanks!

[stiff zephyr]

Anymore questions while I'm bored?

No 😭

[icy hull]

Sure, "why X"?

[stiff zephyr]

x is a common representation of an number eg x^2 + 75x = dy/dx
solve it:

(you can't please don't)

[icy hull]

Lol well, I wasnt disappointed

🤣

[terse violet]

Why do I get different damage values when using deadeye?

On non armor enemies

[icy hull]

Wrong game? Div 1 is the other channels

[terse violet]

Oh? Is this only for div2??

My b, thought this included incursions, whoop

[icy hull]

Yea only Div 2.

[craggy meadow]

Eneyone wanna raid today ? Just add me ...ps5

[wintry prism]

So I ran DH for the first time, had three keys at the end. Can I run it again for two more keys so I can open the chest?

[icy hull]

Keys from the boxes are once per week per toon. but can get unlimited keys from last boss.

[wintry prism]

And there are two boxes?

[icy hull]

4 boxes and 1 off last boss for the 5 total needed for chest at end.

[wintry prism]

Ah. Thanks.

[swift peak]

you can run it again this week to get the two boxes you missed (plus a bonus key from the boss)

[tough trench]

That mean you still can collect the two missing from the week if you do it again. Once you get the 5 (and open) you would only get one from Last boss even if you run it all over again.
Tuesday is reset day.

[wintry prism]

Thanks! Do I need to find boxes I didn't open last time, or will the boss drop the two I need?

[tough trench]

Need to find which boxes you can still interact with (the others would be already open) . Be sure to run with a team that helps you through it, or let them know you still need 2 so they can take you to check.

[wintry prism]

I see. Thanks again!

[tribal sand]

bonsoir pour rejoindre un raid on fais comment merci

[frail bison]

anyone running IH?

[prisma canyon]

anyone running raids ...help getting the exotic?

[tame sage]

Newbies to raid, remember to look here: https://i.imgur.com/4uAb2nQ.png

[toxic orchid]

ima bring my 100 lvl alt, he meets those requirements i think xD

[last ibex]

O

[brisk wing]

Oh. Aye2 sir.

[cyan coyote]

So question, what is the raid specific loot for DH? I know thats where you get the Eaglebearer but I don't know what else specifically drops there

[cunning night]

The blue prints for the original raid gear sets

Tip of the spear, Aces, and ND

[floral slate]

Would i be dropped from a raid group if I was only missing about 3% of Crit Dam in trade for 8% Damage to targets out of cover and 8% Damage to armor, since a friend recommended Fox Prayer Knees and Contractor's Gloves to me a few months back so i can suppress with Bullet King?

[normal mirage]

if a raid group kicks you out because you are missing 3% of crit dmg, you are better off without them.

[floral slate]

Just checking, Cuz I'd like to start doing raids and be taught through them, DH for example, and this is my first completed build for the most part

[tawdry widget]

50% CHC and 150% CHD is just a rough template so people know what to look for. with that said, Bullet King isn't that good, especially for supressing. if you're suppressing it means not you or anyone else will be able to easily kill the ads, no one will be very happy with that

use an M1A or an AR, it'll be better for you and the team

[floral slate]

Yea not actually supressing I meant. I've done some research on the bosses and for Buddy and Lucy, and the Juggernaut at the beginning of DH, I want to put in a constant stream of damage. For ads, I have an AR or my M1A for that. People tell me that the Scorpio is better for the raid, and I agree, but I'd like to personally find a godroll one, and I like the play style of LMGs with my Vigilance backpack perk, so i can also sit somewhere in the back while doing decent damage

[tawdry widget]

thing is, LMGs aren't "that" decent damage

[hexed jay]

Well you dont have to find the godroll one - you can always recalibrate it

if youre running a crit build smg/ar is the way to go and keep a scorpio around for certain instances

then of course the m1A is a solid option

[tawdry widget]

but it's fine, you're on the right track, with practice, knowing how everything works you can adjust

[hexed jay]

by this point most groups are going to have one or two people who really know what theyre doing thatll coach you through - ive only recently started in the raids and the community here has been pretty friendly - ive completed both a bunch of times now

[floral slate]

Yea, then Ima basically set. I only have 50.2% Crit Chance and 147% Crit Damage. I could just use the Scorpio then. All I basically need is to be taught, cuz now I wanna get Eagle Bearer

[hexed jay]

yeah dude if youve put a concious effort into a build im sure youll be ok - dps is the one standard that every raid group needs a few of so you wont have any problems most likely

[floral slate]

👍

[viscid fossil]

I have 20% cc and 60% CD hopefully you guys will let me in the raid

[tender hollow]

Not sure if you are trolling or not.

Stronger teams will take you in, but after the first time, if you do the raid again, you should at least put in some effort to get items for a build that helps the team.
The standard dps meta build is somthing like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBZpJB6sYGM
but with a ceska instead of the fenris, and use unbreakable on your chest.

[vagrant wing]

he's not. My go to build for the railyard has similar numbers (30 ish chc, 100 ish chd iirc). It's not always about chc/chd

Plus um you probably don't recognize his name but believe me you don't need to teach him about builds 🙂
(sorry Poco)

[tender hollow]

^ thats why I added "not sure if you are trolling or not".

There are some builds that are extremely effective with lower chc etc. but its unlikely a new raider would have them, which is why it is just easier to say, it is recommended you have a meta dps build with high chc/chd.

[fluid pier]

The meta dps build uses unbreakable on the chest? 🤔

[tender hollow]

hehe meta for new players 🙂

[vagrant wing]

explosive delivery😉

[waxen rain]

@scarlet gate sorry but can you kick @dull kestrel he fell asleep in rv7, or so we suppose

[final charm]

@waxen rain please use @tender hollow to speak with mods, not general channels, also might be easier to just switch RV as you did

[waxen rain]

i see , sorry , i @ a mod and requested for dc just for his safety and well sleep haha

didn't knew convex is a thing , do i need to dm him?

[final charm]

Yeah, @tender hollow is our bot 🙂

through it you can speak to all mods, we get notified

[waxen rain]

kk

[hearty vessel]

Is raid pvp?

I've never played it.

Or is it like Destiny raids?

[narrow elk]

Raid is pve, 4 bosses on each raid with their specific ways on how to beat them

[hearty vessel]

Ah I see

[toxic barn]

what to do inside DH where there are 6 buttons and team splitting to A and B ? u push the button at the same time ?

[frigid spire]

Yes...simultaneously pressing the correct button switches the sides of purple and yellow smoke. Yellow side does good damage purple very little damage

[tough trench]

Same time to switch the gas, purple=no damage; orange=damage.
Only one side sees the computer so needs to have communication.
Try changing when the red icon at the right of your weapon/gear icons (under your bullet numbers) counter hits 15

4-4 strat requires more than one computer change, but the 7-1 can be done with just the first interaction

[viscid kelp]

Morning agents just one question i have been doing DH Raid now on normal every time been after the EB and everything time finishing the raid the EB does not drop why what am i doing wrong and every time playing also with good team this is now the 20th time or what is the next weapon just as good as the EB

[tough trench]

It's all RNG, some people get it on first try others on the 50th. As far as I know there's no specific way of getting it. If so, there must be someone here to clarify that matter.

[viscid kelp]

OK thanks what's the next AR weapon to the EB

[dusky bolt]

exotic or tier

[tough trench]

Eagle Bearer is an exotic similar to a high-end P416, but I don't know if it is still in the game.i'd go for a FAMAS or PoliceM4

[viscid kelp]

I have a DH raid build tier when

[viscid kelp]

Yes i have P416 ist still in i have all god roll on my DH build i use the Baker dozen it shreds luzy and buddy

[tender hollow]

unless you pvp, the answer is any AR with max Damage out of Cover.

[viscid kelp]

@tender hollow hi ninja yeah nice to see you here yeah i have on most of my AR max Damage out of cover also good for DZ

[coral raven]

To clarify, eagle bearer is a crappy gun compared to famas or carbine 7 (or even a fal, honestly). Its rate of fire is just too low lol

[icy hull]

er well, the RoF isnt the issue, its the missing DTOOC and missing a Damage talent (if going for max dps).

[coral raven]

Fair, but it's still a weak gun

[icy hull]

sadly yes

[viscid kelp]

The guys for the info I'm keeping to the carbine 7 and famas Damage out of cover it shredds

[floral slate]

I'd love it if someone were to walk me through IH since i participated in and completed DH for the first time and got EB. The only experience I've understood from IH is the final encounter in the first phase

[rugged wind]

Anyone saw that at the guy in the Iron Horse Raid you can actually start matchmaking for normal? -> https://upload.bosse.io/TheDivision2_y8lIKHFPKC.jpg

[tender hollow]

oh wow

[reef wyvern]

Can't get gear set pieces from discovery mode can you?

[icy hull]

nope

all exclusive raid items are normal only.

[uneven garden]

EB is better than bighorn tho.

[coral raven]

that's not a very high bar

[tender hollow]

That is debatable 😂

[uneven garden]

lol can’t agree more @tender hollow

[viscid kelp]

Great run yesterday DH but one thing annoyed me with the team we was mostly on razerback at the end and almost finishing with great happiness that we nearly made it then half the team left the raid leaving just two of us there not good all we were after was the EB not happy💩 💩

[warm citrus]

But why they left?

[verbal mist]

That’s not cool .

[azure bay]

meta

[south yacht]

Hi! I am new to this server, do you guys have a scheduled raid time for Dark Hours raid?

[frosty mesa]

Head to your platforms LFG channel. Teams will post in there. That’s going to be your best bet.

[floral slate]

Question - So far, I've basically done each raid once and was lucky enough to get each exotic from them. Although they're exclusive once a week, are the armor sets in IH also locked to a weekly exclusive, or could I continue completing it and get more of them?

[stiff zephyr]

people drop the stuff if you ask

[floral slate]

So the IH armor sets are weekly exclusive?

[stiff zephyr]

yeh, but you and still open the box for them

[frosty mesa]

@floral slate its only the chest and pack that are exclusive. As far as the exotics go, you can open the crate as many times as you want as long as you have 5 keys. The final boss on both raids will drop a key every time.

[stiff zephyr]

everything else just do targeted missions or summit

[sonic osprey]

Anyone had game crashes at the Morozova fight recently? Our whole team crashing at once....

[vagrant wing]

got 5 out of 8 crashing right as we completed it last week

[toxic orchid]

ironwork base mats from bosses or key boxes? dont remember

[vagrant wing]

Bosses. Boxes grant alloys iirc

[toxic orchid]

okay, so week 2, have all the mats and turn ins for the projects, do morozova get base mats from her, turn in, then do full fresh run and get regulus? because after you turn in one of the high end quests you get it refunded, so both sets of 2nd project done and reg quest done

[vagrant wing]

no sadly. Regulus parts only drop on your first clear of the week. So if i understand you correctly, since you're doing IH at first to get the mats - you won't get the Regulus parts next run (except for the one you get by opening the chest, if you have 5 keys ofc)

[toxic orchid]

just do last boss, get mats from her, turn everything in then do a fresh clear; last boss doesnt drop a part it comes from the box

[vagrant wing]

in that case - i have no idea honestly

[toxic orchid]

it works in theory; doing this on an alt account; hopefully ill have an answer if i can get some silly badger gloves

[vagrant wing]

gl then 🙂

[toxic orchid]

didnt get to do a full run of ih but morozova did give base mats, and now i have the regulus project; just need to do the raid T.T

[floral slate]

So the Founders Bulwark Vest and the Future Initiative Vest and Backpack are locked behind Iron Horse? Cuz those are the only pieces i can't find behind target farming in Summit

[jolly spire]

Yes they are, you need to run IH for them

[floral slate]

😞 looks like I'll be begging for more IH runs in the future

[jolly spire]

For the Ironhorse third boss, when you throw the turret, is blue the only one where the turret is on the left?

[normal mirage]

blue and yellow. Red is right

[tame vector]

reminder: 🇷 ed = 🇷 ight.... b🇱 ue and ye🇱 🇱 ow = 🇱 eft

[plain lodge]

Hey should I be doing Raids at World Tier 2 or wait to get to Tier 5 ?/////

[verbal mist]

dont think you can raid at tier 2

[icy hull]

its a WT5 or level 40 thing only, ALSO need a good build 1st anyways.

[grand cypress]

How important is it to look up videos etc before going into any one of the raids? worth bothering looking up mechanics (think Destiny raids), or is it more of a longer more difficult mission? @anyone

[icy hull]

very helpful, as people can spend less time explaining stuff to you.

dont make 7 other people wait, if you have zero knowledge on the raid. go in with at very least the basic knowledge from say a youtube video (MUCH faster to explain things).

[grand cypress]

good to know, will do, thanks

[verbal mist]

not sure on your platform but in lfg xbox you will see ftc or learning raids posted

[jovial crater]

Hi looking to do a raid PS4 were can I join one

[swift peak]

look in #lfg-raid-ps4

[jovial crater]

Thanks

[rancid patio]

Hey guys I need a team to do normal raids

[stiff zephyr]

try you LFG channel #lfg-raid-ps4

[tacit plover]

Looking to help! PC/UbiConnect

[sharp forge]

@tacit plover can you help me to kill the number 1 hitman in the world?

[storm badge]

For IH Boss 2, do crossing the lines between sectors multiple times cause more enemies to spawn?

[vagrant wing]

what do you mean by 'crossing the lines'?
and no. It's a time event where the time get shortened after the 1st wave iirc

[storm badge]

Just physically going over the lines that mark Sector A and Sector C

[vagrant wing]

afaik no. Moving between sectors won't affect the timing fo the spawns nor the amount of adds spawning

[spring cobalt]

I have heard of a spawn glitch on Boss 2, but am unsure of what it is…has to do with someone standing in an area and not moving…had an LFG do it, and only had 3 or so waves of Ads the full encounter

[solemn flower]

does anyone know if the Regulus parts will drop from the bosses if your raid timer is on cooldown?

[icy hull]

It will not. They only drop on 1st kill of week.

[cold elm]

@fast shard thanks for leading bruh

[fast shard]

Np, you’ll catch me around i run DH pretty often. Feel free to join whenever 🙂

[knotty carbon]

How to get future Intiative chest or pack back ?

Which part of ih does it drop

[ancient dirge]

It can drop on all the bosses, you have a better chance of getting them on weekly reset

[knotty carbon]

Aha wish they do it to open world instead of making those raid gated lien they did with dliema

[ancient dirge]

Yh, I think it’s more fun when you have to do raids to get the gear you need

[crude prairie]

Pretty sure it's a dumb question, but is there any benefit running raids after the first weekly clear? Do bosses still have a chance to drop exclusive raid loot (FI/FB backpack/chestpiece)?

[tender hollow]

Some one else can drop it for you. Also you get a key each time you kill the last boss, and when you get 5 keys you can open the box again, which can have the exclusives

[crude prairie]

Oh so the last boss always drops a key even after the first weekly clear, that was the part I was missing, thank you

[tender hollow]

keys dont exist sometimes anyone know why and how we fix it?

[finite gale]

Check to see if your not on discovery.

[tender hollow]

always normal want eb

[vagrant wing]

wym 'sometimes'? you know you can open the chests only once a week right?

[candid otter]

Iron Horse is Hard to be Exact the Colonel Mendoza Boss is Hard Just Damn she takes no prisoners honestly good work whoever made Mendoza on XBOX only 2.4% of player's own the achivement for finishing the raid.

[verbal mist]

I’ve ran into this a few times recently . It’s strange . I hadn’t ran Tuesday and ran a fresh with a clan mate who had run already and couldn’t get keys . Happened a few times . It’s gotta be bugging out

[proud loom]

the chests weren't lootable on my first completion, that might be what they're talking about

[verbal mist]

Yes it resets every Tuesday

[vagrant wing]

just making sure... first time i'm hearing about this. Never ran into it myself

[verbal mist]

It’s very weird . Last week the boxes were closed and it wasn’t fresh but it said 0 keys if you open map but gave keys in your resources . Been glitchy lately for us

[proud loom]

for me the key chests just didn't drop anything, no keys in inven, nothing

and that was on my first time doing DH

[verbal mist]

Strange

Next time that happens fast travel to whitehouse and back and see if box works

[proud loom]

maybe i'll have to, thanks

[spring cobalt]

We have had raid members have that issue…usually it persists week over week and will eventually resolve…only way we found to fix quickly is uninstall and reinstall

[proud loom]

yikes

[plucky warren]

Yo anyone up for a raid the iorn hours?

Horse

[dire crag]

Need 6 for dh message me at bigstan7125 on ps

[analog flame]

would anybody be interested in speed running ih ? must know what you’re doing and be willing to commit to practicing over and over again

[warm wren]

Please use the correct channel. This channel is for discussing the raids, such as strategies or builds, not for finding people to run the raids with.

[analog flame]

lol

[cold elm]

What talent should you be running on chest to jam drones during razorback

[west spruce]

@cold elm depending on your build, it could be Kinetic Momentum, Glass Cannon/Perfect Glass Cannon, Overwatch or Perfectly Skilled.

[cold elm]

Can you run kinetic + btsu and do healing and jam

[west spruce]

Yes you can, you just have to make sure you have enough skill damage to one shot the first wave of drones (Wyvern chest, Skill Damage on all pieces except your BTSU glove)

[cold elm]

Is there a rough estimate, like 90 % ?

[west spruce]

I can't recall the exact number, but it should be 95% with talent buff included, excluding tactical link from your subgroup.

Perfect Glass Cannon will have more leeway as it's amplified damage.

@cold elm provided you are max Skill Damage on your SHD watch, 4 piece Hard Wired (All Skill Dmg roll) + BTSU + Wyvern Chest with Kinetic Momentum will be able to one shot first wave of drones. 2nd wave is not a problem anymore as your Feedback Loop should be activated, granting you additional skill damage.

[cold elm]

Thank you 🙏

[severe jungle]

You can also run some other fun combos with it and play with numbers. Mine uses Empress and wyvern with GC, but my backpack has safeguard on it. I have enough haste dmg and healing on gear rolls to 1 shot, have it up in time for each wave, and ALMOST 1 shot heal people, which can be VERY helpful with newer players since I teach the raids in my clan.

[vagrant wing]

'up in time for each wave' is a relative term. Now that considerable amount of ppl know how to use the Rav, spacing between waves can reach approx 7 sec, which i suspect your particular build might struggle with

[severe jungle]

depends on the group, but I also build for my clan

and I control the timing because I handle the bow

and usually nade tbh lol

my point was simply it's a fun build to play with since there's so many ways to do each boss

[vagrant wing]

in that case - your build is pretty much use case specific. it won't work in the average LFG i suspect

[severe jungle]

depends on how well the group can communicate

[vagrant wing]

it's not about comms at all. but this discussion seem to lead nowhere so i'm gonna stop here if you don't mind

[severe jungle]

usually I just have to say "let me handle the mechanics on this side" but I also don't run pubs that often, so you're probably right lol

[verbal mist]

Overwatch works well on hw build . You just have to proc it to kill drones which can get a bit edgy at times if you accidentally hop out of cover . Gc , 4 hw , btsu the safest way to do drones imho

[pure flame]

how do u get into a group for normal difficulty of the raids? New player here tryin to get some experience.

[stiff zephyr]

join rv25

sorry join the voice call labled raid voice 25 if you want

[umbral fern]

New to raids

How do I get into a good group