#td2-raid-discussions

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patent delta
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so healing builds are raid specific and even boss specific?

echo nexus
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I just like having more/better Lucio style heals so that way everyone's at full in just one hive drone

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If everyone besides the tank is at full health in a single healing hive drone, that's good enough for me

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Even then, I can just pop a Chem round at my tank and he's almost full if I hit him dead on or right at his feet

patent delta
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this might be annoying, but just for reference with the build i have for healing. I have 32 charges and do 321k per charge healing with hive. is this trash or are the raw numbers ok?

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chem 9 charges with 1 mil

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i want to raid but dont want to go in no effective if that makes sense

fierce jungle
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If you’re raiding for the first time I recommend you use a dps build because the healer can have specialized roles that require experience. Until you’ve done the raid once or twice, I recommend a dps build. Of course if the raid leader is willing to teach you then by all means go ahead

patent delta
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just straight up red dps?

echo nexus
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Yes

fierce jungle
echo nexus
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Well If/When I ever get the chest, then I'll change it to make you happy

fierce jungle
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You don’t have to lol

tawdry widget
echo nexus
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Either way, I'm optimized enough to be able to put everyone to full in a single hive charge. Not one for each person, one for everyone

tender hollow
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I have a checkpoint on the Razorback boss on DH can someone help me finish it

kindred cave
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uhhhh whats DH?

tender hollow
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Dark hours

kindred cave
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i realized that when i closed my discord overlay lol

tender hollow
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The healing build meta I see now used by a lot of players is 4 piece Future Initiative, BTSU and Alps Opportunistic backpack. With this build, even if you are not healing someone, if they are on full armor they get a 25% damage bonus and if you shoot something once every 10 seconds, another 10% damage bonus for that thing that you shoot.

tender hollow
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hey can u raid my friend discord server?

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tender hollow
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i mean raid like raid spam and you know

tawdry widget
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hmm... discord isn't twitch

valid marlin
fervent heron
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Today I done IH raid and give the backpack to complete the project now I have the Regulus project. Can I run again raid to drop diamond or need to wait next week?

halcyon pebble
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next week

fervent heron
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👍

coral wind
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Anyone have a Razor back check point ...?

crimson aspen
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Question. In the furnace how do you do the lava. Open all valves and then brake the 3 lavas simultaniously or you do open - break - open - break ...

coral wind
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open break open break ......Usually someone will open and move to next to start opening while a DPS guy stays behind and break

crimson aspen
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We also did it like that ... but if you break the lava at the same time you fight the boss only once

coral wind
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Anyone have a Razor back check point ...?

vagrant wing
# crimson aspen We also did it like that ... but if you break the lava at the same time you figh...

The're two ways to do it.

  1. like you mentioned open each channel individually. And true as you mentioned you'll have to DPS the boss 2 times (you won't need to DPS him when you open the last channel. He'll become immune as soon as you break the last lava)
  2. Open all of them simultaneously. If you do that - you won't have to fight him at all. As said above he'll become immune as soon as all the lava are flowing

method 1 is easier for teams who don't count the cogs (i.e. need two ppl to rotate 1 set of cogs) or for teams who struggle a bit in the fight. Method 2 is much more preferable and easier, but required more coordination and high DPS (you need to break the lava as fast as you can to prevent the boss from roaming around) . In the end it's all depends on the team

bleak delta
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guys sorry for my bad eng, but how do you avoid the second mortar on morozova?

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i really need some help or advice

crimson aspen
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You dont

bleak delta
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ahh so you can't avoid it?

crimson aspen
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Well we do it with a healer who drops a hive

vagrant wing
bleak delta
crimson aspen
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We just tank it with a hive.

exotic umbra
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don't go in the tunnel too early

crimson aspen
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Just make sure there is only the first person with a shield or the mini gun will drain the hive

vagrant wing
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Right. There're 2 ways to avoid it:

  1. simply destroy the mortars before you go in (kinda tricky, they will "come back to life" after a short cooldown. You'll have to time it. Also it'll make each phase longer ofc)
  2. delay your entrance into the tunnel until you hear the rockets launching. If you do that - the mortars won't target you inside the channel
exotic umbra
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you can join rv1 about this time of the day to run ih with some exp players. no idea what's their plan in running so many ih in a day

bleak delta
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ahh okay thanks a lot guys!

tawdry widget
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They can still target you, but it will be one mortar instead of three or four.

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It's usually the repeat of mortars that lead to wipes

bleak delta
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I tried to get the flawless commendation but we failed because of the mortar, our tank got out of the yellow line XD

bleak delta
tawdry widget
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If you're trying again, for every wipe, you have to reform the raid, otherwise it will not count (unless it was fixed in the meantime)

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When my group was trying it, we achieved it a couple of times and didn't get the commendation, until we finally did it after reforming between tries.

vagrant wing
tawdry widget
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Yep

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Probably also depends of how close everyone is to the line, I guess

patent delta
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how do you know its ok to join a raid if you have never done one? I dont wanna miss the chance by asking as the groups fill up so quick. Not sure on the etiquette when someone wants people to join

vagrant wing
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just jump in and tell the group you're new. At most they'll ask you to leave

vapid briar
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If someone's LFM'ing, join that voice channel, say hi and ask if they're cool with you tagging along. Usually, it's no big deal if there's 1 or 2 newbies in the team as long as the rest knows what to do. Just make sure to follow instructions.

patent delta
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ok nice one, thanks guys

exotic umbra
tender hollow
upbeat rapids
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What do IH raiders look for in a healer? I've yet to do a raid, but want to be prepared with a build that'll help the team out.

vagrant wing
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You probably better off with DPS for the first couple times. The healer has some major roles in the raid that without prior knowledge you won't do much good to you or the team.
As for your question - most teams prefer 4 future initiative (mask, chest, holster & knees), BTSU gloves and Apls/Murakamy BP with opportunistic

upbeat rapids
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It's funny you mention future initiative, my sole reason for wanting to do IH is for the chest and backpack.

I'll make a note of that build for the future, so let me shift my question: broadly speaking, what's an ideal DPS build that's specific to IH needs? I ask as a primarily Skill based player.

I can go into build advice for more specific DPS build info, but I would really be aiming to suit this just for IH.

vagrant wing
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Well that's the egg and the chicken problem right there 🙂
As for DPS - pick up a preferred gun and build your build around it. There're 2 best in slots items which are fox's prayers (named knees) and Contractor's (named gloves). The rest can be 3 providence or 1 gropu 1 ceska 1 providence if you want, and 1 piece of the brand that buff you weapon (fenris for AR for example). Coyote's mask can be incorporated too. As for the talent on the chest and BP - look for dmg talents

upbeat rapids
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This is a great starting point for me, appreciate all of this info.

To wrap up, one last tidbit then I'll get to building: what skills do DPS usually equip? healing drone and revive hive?

vagrant wing
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Totally up to you. I do however suggest the revive hive (as you pointed out) for your first couple runs. As for the other skill - whatever makes you happy really

upbeat rapids
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I'm off to make this DPS build, thank you again for the advice!

vagrant wing
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np and good luck

lavish shore
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How many times a week should I do raid. IH/DH

upbeat mesa
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@lavish shore at least on of each IH / DH per character for the guaranteed drops. ultimately how much u want tho lol

safe cosmos
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Yep, chicken and egg hit pretty exactly how healing works in the raid, worst part those stats from the chest alone can tip the balance of a fight

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Same with tanking morozova really, to be most efficient about it and make your team less vulnurable to it, you need both healer and tank (Roamer classes) equipped with the Ravenous

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Since fumbling with grenades and skills for just babysitting her is quite troublesome

little tusk
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anyone gonna do a raid? im new to this 😄

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exotic umbra
small stratus
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Hey Agents, looking to Raid - Ironhorse

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I'm a veteran agent, just need good team to complete

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Gamer tag Ruckkess - PS4

tawdry widget
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@small stratus wrong channel, try the #lfg-raid-ps (or equivalent for Playstation), this channel is for raid discussions

small stratus
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Thanks bro

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Much appreciated

torpid dagger
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If I haven’t ran the second raid before, what type of build and roll should i go for? I want to try and do it soon to get the pistol/rifle out of it

odd star
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dps

glad plaza
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Does anybody use bullet king in dh?

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Just need to know

vagrant wing
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it's not the best weapon for it, although if you have a decent DPS build you can use it just fine, it just won't be optimize

odd star
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it aint bad for lucy/buddy

vagrant wing
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there's always a better alternative for it unless you're taking too long to kill said boss. That's when it's sustain DPS make it somewhat worth while

tawdry widget
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it's not worth it for B&L, the team will probably be always stop & go with damage

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might as well just use scorpio

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it has predictable damage and a fast enough reload

amber blaze
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ok I heard this is the place for a slap fight @orchid citrus How can I be of assistance?

versed hornet
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Going into a raid for the first time, what kind of build would I want? Just classic LMG / Rifle dps?

whole nexus
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🍿

whole nexus
tender hollow
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Soooo... Nobody ever asks for experience for DH... Just saying

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Just do boomer 2 or 3 times, then if the dps is low decide if you want to spend another 2 or 3 hrs helping or not

odd star
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i mean yeah the mechanics take like 2 minutes to explain and the rest is just the question of if you have a good build

strange sail
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does anyone suggest if im trying to learn the raid what youtuber should i watch?

humble solar
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@strange sail i would say coldbwoyy, just cuz he runs with my clan and gives decent walkthroughs. There's other good ones. But watching and doin is gonna be very different. I'd juat hop in a raid, tell them you're new and ask to be taught. You're gonna suck for a little bit, but with repition, itll get easy.

strange sail
slow verge
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What does ifg stand for? xddd

strange sail
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looking for group

slow verge
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Ohhh xd i dont understand half of what people are saying in #lfg-raid-pc

civic dagger
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DH/IH is dark hours/iron horse, RVx is raid voice x

plucky niche
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LFG RAID DH PSN SILENT_BREED

sacred siren
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@lofty cypress inv again

dull mountain
verbal mist
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Lfg Xbox really getting thin . I like raiding and for the last few weeks it’s thin . There’s a few groups that Always post but are toxic asshats . I have 90 plus clears dh , 60 plus ih . If you have a good group invite me GT same as discord

lavish shore
unkempt burrow
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Looking to join a raid group

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Lfg raid ps4

tawdry widget
unkempt burrow
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My bad don't know where to go. First time I use the app

tawdry widget
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LFG (looking for group) is the channel you're looking for, if you're after a raid group

hoary pivot
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quick question: anyone carry in dark hours?

odd star
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no

tawdry widget
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@hoary pivot go to #lfg-raid-pc and jump into a voice channel when someone is asking for players for DH. when in the voice channel, explain that you are inexperienced and ask if they're ok with it. usually everyone is, if for some reason they're not, move on and wait for another group. three key things, though:

  1. have a DPS build with values around 50 chc / 150 chd and damage talents
  2. no need to wait for a written invitation in your name, if someone asks for people for RV# for Dark Hours just jump in and explain
  3. look at videos of what happens on the raid, on youtube, to get an idea of what's happening
waxen vessel
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We are looking for 2 guys in RV 1 for IH raid 3rd boss

tawdry widget
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I quit telling people to go to their lfg channel ¯_(ツ)_/¯

quartz sand
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Aaron Cleaner is a Leaked Raid Boss

trail oriole
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Can you get the clan banner for a clan raid from DH? I've heard IH was glitched so I wasn't sure if both of them are.

tawdry widget
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DH is doable

ripe stag
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How do you make sure your internet and TV service go down for 3 minutes?
Just get on the last phase of Razorback, generators at 73%, and your Internet provider will take care of the rest 😃

mint plank
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What does RV mean? Keep seeing that being said.

tawdry island
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Raid Voice

mint plank
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And wth is that? Lol

wicked sail
mint plank
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Ohhh gotcha. Thanks dude.

wicked sail
sharp forge
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new at raid. want to ask why nowadays the turret cant aggro adds anymore?

exotic umbra
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it can't? its been good at keeping williams occupied

warm ibex
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rv2 lfm fresh IH exp only

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LF2m fresh IH

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lf1m rv2 exp pref.

gaunt gate
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Lfg dh new to raid pan gvtcha__

last sentinel
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im rather new to the concept of raids, what do i need to know about them to take part in a team?
what would be required of my build?
and would a 4pc hunter fury + grupo sombra obliterate + memento all modded for max chd and chc paired with Dark Winter/Scorpio or Lady Death be considered raid ready?

tawdry widget
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Someone else asked it, it still applies. I'll add that regarding your Hunter's Fury build, it's not ideal as it's more of a solo build with the "on kill" mechanic that you won't be able to take advantage of when there are 7 other players also killing adds. Adding to that, you're losing brand bonuses and attributes that can bring your damage higher.

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The usual advised build is a 3x Providence, 1x Grupo, 1x Fox Prayers. The last piece can be Ceska (if you need the crit chance), Contractor Gloves or a Coyote Mask for the group buff. That's with weapon damage cores, crit chance and crit damage as attributes. Both talents on chest and backpack are damage ones. Focus, Spotter (maybe stay away from Glass Cannon until you've learned the spawn points) or Obliterate if you're using an AR. Vigilance on the backpack.

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With that said, probably any build can be made to work (even skill builds), but not as you're learning the raid. It's best to just use this red dps build and work your way when you get more experience. Especially since you'll be along side 7 other players and it's just easier for everyone using a tried and true build.

last sentinel
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i havent thought about the other players impacting my build

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thanks for telling me that

rich light
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Need 6 more for DH boss cp

restive herald
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How to avoid the mortars from dropping in the tunnel area of last boss iron horse?

vagrant wing
restive herald
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Does throwing decoys help in any way?

signal basin
latent jewel
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@turbid tundra would you accept someone who only has 1 IH clear and is still learning the raid?

turbid tundra
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@latent jewel Sure, np but it's too late here, tomorrow maybe. Add me on ubisoft.

sage yoke
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` i

tawdry jasper
dull mountain
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it won't if you throw it far enough

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since you don't want to throw it near anyone to prevent it actually get mortared and dmg teammate in the process

tender hollow
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Looking for a patient group to try raids with, as I've never done raids before. Level 55 and completed the main game and WONY.

humble plover
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Anyone on here prepared to drag me through a raid? Experienced player but not on IH. Thanks.

wide quail
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I'm wanting to do raid first time , can handle my own gear score 503

tender hollow
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I need to do the raids on Xbox I can hang just need some guidance!

dull mountain
mellow laurel
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hello can i farm for eagle bearer by doing the raid over and over again or do i have to wait for next week to get the keys or smt ?

exotic umbra
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you can get keys from razorback

wraith mantle
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Any one running DH still need the E.B

long crown
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Can you get keys from razorback on discovery. Someone is saying you can?

odd star
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no

rancid fulcrum
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Hello together, I’m looking for a raid group. Somebody want to join?

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Or where can I join?

timid sleet
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We're learning in raid voice 11

rancid fulcrum
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Any suggestions for a dps build for dark hours? A rifle or shotgun? One on my team said that we should stop shooting boomer with a shotgun

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In my case with a scorpio

latent jewel
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Rifles are usually the way to go. Shooting Boomer with the shotgun is dangerous cause of the spread. You don't want to get the aggro if you don't know how to handle it, after all. You also want to zap him for a double dps phase so two scorpios ruin the tempo

outer palm
rigid onyx
upbeat mesa
outer palm
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Ah alright

pine aurora
main fjord
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Does Overwatch and Opportunistic from multiple peeps stack for your subgroup, or for the whole team?

viscid fossil
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Both are global I’m sure of it

mighty spade
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Hey I’m new to this server I’m looking for somebody that will like to play iron horse raid? I’m a team player, take orders well, please send invite
My username: Duwrit
Console: PS4

muted bridge
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So shock traps work on boomer?

viscid fossil
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yeah but its pretty specific on how you do it these days but once you get the timing right its doable, but its not the same as before though

quaint ledge
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Thank’s a lot todaydiv2thumbsup

vapid cosmos
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Hey agents. I just came back last week since WONY releases and been grinding. Level 100 on season pass already haha. Only played about 150 hours before that so I’m still “new”. I am a pretty big destiny raider and want to get into Div2 raiding and I know there are hurdles for newcomers. I live in heroic world difficulty and have been soloing halfway through heroic strongholds while I wait on matchmaking sometimes. I think I’ve got good enough gear to raid. Just need to watch tutorials first. Destiny is pretty mechanical in its raids but not sure how deep it gets in Div2. I know the second raid is more mechanics heavy so I’ll do that later. Advice I got is just to make a red build for the less complex raid I’m going to start with.

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Jesus I didn’t realize that was so long I’m so sorry!

pearl junco
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Looking for agents to do a Raid. Anyone interested??
UPlay id Shady_Doctor

icy hull
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@pearl junco wrong channel, please use the LFG raid one.

pearl junco
atomic nova
# vapid cosmos Hey agents. I just came back last week since WONY releases and been grinding. Le...

So the raids in division 2 are a piece of cake compared to destiny 2 raids. The 1st raid operation dark hours you can do with 8 dps almost all the way through. The 2nd raid is more mechanics driven and it’s less of a dps check. If you do some research and are explained briefly on what to do you can pick it up. Your a big destiny raider so if you can pick up on DSC or last wish fast than these raids are a joke

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Just get 6 red build with 2 dps talents like spotter or glass cannon on the chest and vigilance on the backpack

vapid cosmos
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@atomic nova cool thank you! I just joined a clan and they have build minimums for dps. Gotta have 150 CHD and 50 CHC and Fox knee pads. The knee pads are my problem

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This is for noobies to join the clan lfg

atomic nova
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A good thing to to is check the vendors each week and just farm the target loot.

vapid cosmos
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They said the Fox knees are non-negotiable

atomic nova
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The summit is pretty efficient

vapid cosmos
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Gonna have to farm those knees I guess. Thank you!

hoary light
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last IH boss is a pain

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I keep getting pushed out by the artillery when I’m inside the tunnel

odd star
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tank it with your medic

hoary light
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I get pushed out and die because of the fucking minigun

odd star
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shit medic

verbal mist
thorny parrot
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Scorpio any good for dps builds for raids?

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Or is it still better to go with the ar/rifle dps build?

tender hollow
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@vapid cosmos if you got 50/150 or are close just join a lfg in this discord.

vapid cosmos
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@tender hollow oh dear lord idk yet!

tawdry widget
# thorny parrot Scorpio any good for dps builds for raids?

Depends on boss and position you're at. It's good in IH if you're playing healer and are buffing the team's damage on a boss (with opportunistic too). Outside of that, as a DPS, it's ok in DH Boomer if you're dealing with adds from 43/44 or 40, Weasel can be ok and on Buddy & Lucy it does a predictable damage, for everything else, from the top of my head, Rifles/AR are better. Also, this reply is for relaxed runs, not speed.

wise crystal
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Hello peeps. What`s the best way to get into a DH RAID group? I would love to run it / learn it. And secondly, i built a high-end skill dmg based build that i have success with, often out damaging dps class on heroic+. Is an all ar / rifle red build a must for specific reason (emp, etc)? My skill build is way better than my red build (lucky rolls, easier to build i guess)

tender hollow
# hoary light I get pushed out and die because of the fucking minigun

If you’re getting staggered out of the tunnel just get your tank to stand I little further back in the tunnel with their shield. Definitely so if it’s the Tank getting staggered out of the tunnel. Those mortars always land in the tunnel after phase 2 and 3 so your medic might need to adjust their build to help the team heal through it.

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hoary light
wise crystal
tawdry widget
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The best way to get into a raid group is to just go to #lfg-raid-pc wait for someone to post something like LFM DH RV1 (Looking for Members, Dark Hours, Raid Voice 1), jump into that channel, explain that you've never done it and take it from there. Usually everyone is ok with taking new people, if for some reason they're not, move on and try again with another group.

wise crystal
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excellent, thank you

tawdry widget
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Try to watch a few youtube videos that break down the bosses, if you haven't. That makes it easier when someone puts you in a specific spot to do a specific task, you'll be able to get a rough idea of what's going on.

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Also, be proactive while searching for a group, I personally think going to #lfg-raid-pc and typing LFG DH (Looking for Group, Dark Hours) is useless, but if someone is starting a raid and asking for people, there's no need to ask permission before jumping in the voice channel or waiting for a written invitation in your name, it's a first come first served kind of deal, hence being proactive.

thorny parrot
restive herald
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We are waiting until the last moment to get under the tunnel but still getting bombarded in 2nd and 3rd phase of Morozova. Someone said that during dps phases if it's time to stagger we should not dps boss. If we dps we will get bombarded more. Is it correct or we are doing something wrong?

bold kestrel
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if you dont use your brain and you all stand right outside the tunnel when waiting to go in, the mortar radius from the first bomb you baited outside will still hit you inside

sick spindle
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You are going to be hit by one or two mortars no matter what you do, staying away from the water just causes the first one to drop outside the water so it wont knock you into the wipe mechanic. Rarely, if you don't interrupt Morozova before she goes immune, she might rpg you instead of getting staggered and if you were stacked up it would wipe you.

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Mostly you just need to chem launcher and healing hive and try to stay behind the tank's shield

restive herald
restive herald
exotic umbra
jolly spire
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On Ironhorse, third boss (Williams), how do you keep him on the railing after he jumps the turret? Decoy held him for awhile and then 1 foam worked, after that he just bails while being foamed.

vagrant wing
cyan turret
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#3 is very true

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Hate it when we are in the damage phase and we wipe

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Super annoying

worn charm
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having trouble finidng a sherpa. I'm a big destiny player, so im not new to raiding or the mechanics involved. I need to get eagle bearer for my red build. anyone have a group that can help me out?

vagrant wing
# worn charm having trouble finidng a sherpa. I'm a big destiny player, so im not new to raid...

No idea how the destiny community does it, but here there are no dedicated sherpas. Simply keep an eye on the lfg channel for someone how's looking for ppl for DH (dark hours) jump in and tell them you're new. Worst case scenario they'll ask you nicely to leave. You can also actively look for ppl yourself - and again telling them you're new will come a long way. Also also DH isn't about the mechanics at all - it's basically a straight up DPS with some very minor mechanics it (just FYI)

worn charm
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damn alright, thanks for the advice

tender hollow
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^ if the group you join fails, just join another one. DH is basically dps checks, so lots of low dps builds means the group will fail or take forever, lots of high dps builds means its easy peasy.

lament cove
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any1 knows what is the max number of ironworks base material per week?

halcyon pebble
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not sure the exact number but if you need the amount to complete the FI and FB project you only need 40

wise hearth
lament cove
halcyon pebble
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fully completing 1 of the project refunds u the materials, so you dont need to farm for 80

lament cove
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ah thanks for the info

lament cove
granite kindle
safe cosmos
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Since when does a turret have good aggro generation?

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Besides that Williams movement is massively restricted if only 3 people toss decoys, with a status resist tank to prevent him coming closer incase all decoys have been burned

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Foaming costs more than it benefits considering that a decoy keeps him quite busy and stationary already, there is no point in doing both

exotic umbra
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I don't think william can ride the chain to level 3 therefore there ain't no way for him to run to anyone else other than turret

tender hollow
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^ They toss the turret on the balcony near the boss, so that the key will drop on the 3rd floor of the tower where everyone will shoot him from. However in a low dps or inexperienced group its easier for the tank to tank on the ground floor.

vagrant wing
granite kindle
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if there is people and/or Skills deployed on the bottom floor williams will jump (not everytime)

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And if you put the Decoy/Turret on the wrongside to which the boss exits the turret he'll ignore them anyway

tawdry widget
safe cosmos
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Why waste an overcharge on a foam if the same can be said about an overcharged Decoy, really

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Which btw affects more enemies

vagrant wing
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And if you put the Decoy/Turret on the wrongside to which the boss exits the turret he'll ignore them anyway
that's true
if there is people and/or Skills deployed on the bottom floor williams will jump (not everytime)
that's not
if you placed the turret on the right side and close enough - he'll always aggro on it

vagrant wing
safe cosmos
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On the balcony?

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Eh, fair, you cant really toss stuff up there while on the furnace

vagrant wing
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You can

safe cosmos
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Unless you really want to and go over to the chains that is

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But i get the idea, since the key will be unreachable it just ports over to the player

vagrant wing
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huh? you can deploy your skills up there by either going to the 3rd floor an toss the skills on the balcony (can be tricky sometimes) or by jumping on the objects placed on the floor of the furnace and tossing the skills up

vagrant wing
safe cosmos
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Thought about him jumping down still, since running any setup where he needs to die before jumping off would require more than 3 players explaining a batch of new players the raid

tawdry widget
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Where everyone knows what to do, where to stand, when to dps, etc

safe cosmos
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That's why i mention it

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Mostly help in learner, not speedrun/Expirienced raids

tawdry widget
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Well, the original question was:
"On Ironhorse, third boss (Williams), how do you keep him on the railing after he jumps the turret? Decoy held him for awhile and then 1 foam worked, after that he just bails while being foamed."

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I'm guessing he just wanted to know because he's already trying it with his team

safe cosmos
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i overread both Williams and railing the first time, only then corrected to Williams later, but forgot he meant the walkway around the Arena

atomic nova
formal pollen
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looking to do dark hours im in raid 1

solid elk
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Someone can go lead us in IH ?

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We got almost full group, but only need leader

tawdry widget
solid elk
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okay

tawdry widget
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But from what I see, your raid voice channel is already full

vapid cobalt
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is this the right group to look for a raid?

tender hollow
dreamy pier
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is there any suggestions for a viable raid build. Im looking for stuff to farm right now

odd star
dreamy pier
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OK TY

outer palm
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Do you have to wait for reset to get all the regulas pieces? or can you just run the raid 5 times to get final chest an all the pieces?

odd star
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the exotic pieces? you get them from each boss and the end chest

outer palm
tawdry widget
brave saddle
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Anyone free to help me with the drone killer build now?

tawdry widget
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easiest way is 4x hardwire with backpack, BTSU gloves, wyvern chest with kinetic momentum or glass canon, skill damage on all pieces (except BTSU)

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jammer on one skill, hive on the other

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if you're using repair hive, you can use repair mods as you won't need any skill haste if hardwire is timed correctly

oblique tree
vagrant wing
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The scorpio can really help that build ^^

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overwatch as well (but that come down to preference i feel)

echo hamlet
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Ыщьущту кфшв рщкыу ,

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Someone horse raid ?

drifting valve
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Horse raid hmm do i bring my horse in ? I think i can import one from china its close not sure tho

drifting valve
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and a hive

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Cuz when u put the hive down it reset the jammer, u need to wait like 5s or 10

brave saddle
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@drifting valve is Kinetic momemtum working good? I have put p.glass there.

drifting valve
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Yea sure

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I have one it zaps pretty hard but 1 thing on it is u dont use the healing so its kind of a waste

brave saddle
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P.glass is dangerous

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But i have over 100% skill damage now

drifting valve
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Err it'll work

vagrant wing
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@brave saddle you need 90% skill dmg (including talents) to one shot the drones so with 10% from the watch, 50% from minor attributes, 10% from wyvern and 15% from 4 pcs HW you have 85%. Any dmg talent you put on your chest will do it. Overwatch, KM, GC whatever

drifting valve
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I'll just use my kinetic on the first one then capacitor my way if i dont have enough

vagrant wing
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You don't need the Capacitor on that build. When the HW talent kicks in you get more skill dmg

drifting valve
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Just a fail safe mechanism ik itself would work

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Hell i dont need km

vagrant wing
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The Capacitor is a waste of an exotic imho (on that particular build). Either use the Ravenous or better yet - the scorpio for that 20% dmg to your team

drifting valve
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Well i just like it this way but yea u can go that way

toxic heron
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the raid channels are very alive... I see

tender hollow
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anyone farming for eagle bearer?

icy hull
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Wrong channel, please use the raid LFG one

rich locust
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Raid voice chan 3....we need 3 more players!

valid marlin
rich locust
still sentinel
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DH anyone?

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PSN: Forbesy__00

plucky mist
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lfg any raid have done both before

tender hollow
vernal frigate
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Bro 9 exotic components on the ravenous and got poopy stats

drifting valve
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mmmm only 9 ?

ionic sedge
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is it just me or does anyone else here have issues with maintaining aggro with morozova while play as key-tank & stagger tank in Iron Horse?

drifting valve
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Sometimes

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Server sync issues

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Happens when its a 1-2s interaction that the server disagree

weary coral
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How hard are the raids? im lvl 40 and my build can hold up in heroic, but idk what to expect from raids

vapid briar
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Unless you run one of the key roles (which you probably won't because you're new), you should be fine with one of the meta DPS builds.

tawdry jasper
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May I ask does the razor back take DTOOC?

uncut sluice
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Never used discord before. Looking to join a group to complete Dark Hours or Iron Horse. Experience with both but only completed DH.

vapid tundra
ionic sedge
vapid tundra
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got to get out of the bot mindset. wouldn't ever want to sit in a raid 2+ hours and thinking that's good

vagrant wing
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you do realize you can do sub 40 with 2 tanks and keys right?

odd star
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no he wipes 3x on fieser

vapid tundra
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you do realize that's people knowing what they are doing and you are here thinking sub 40 is a super fast time or something

vagrant wing
vagrant wing
ionic sedge
vapid tundra
odd star
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damn hes cool

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im wet

ionic sedge
vagrant wing
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that's not what i asked. You said you struggle to keep her aggro. Can you elaborate on that? are you just let her roaming around or you try to lock her in place?

ionic sedge
vagrant wing
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right. in that case you have to use a sticky and detonate it when she is fully kneeling and preparing her rocket strikes. after that - if youre close enough (with or without the shield) she'll be locked on you. If you detonate your stciky too soon/too late her aggro will switch, however you can gain her aggro back if you use your sticky when she's doing her next strike

ionic sedge
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thanks

vagrant wing
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If you want to lock her in place - you have no other choice but to use 1 variation of the sticky as far as i'm aware

odd star
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ravvy works but you need to keep at it

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sticky nade works too

vagrant wing
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That's not what they asked. They want to lock her at the door. Can you do it with just the Rav or a nade? i highly doubt it

odd star
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yes

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ravvys explosions stagger her attacks

tender hollow
deft junco
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is that the right channel for me to look a group that is willing to play with a deaf player like me?

fluid pier
wheat meteor
upbeat mesa
# wheat meteor I am curious, so I will bite lol! if you don't run a key tank at all what do you...

You can do 1 tank 1 healer where the tank picks keys in phase 1, staggers in phase 2, 3 and takes keys in phase 4 again. The healer would stagger in last phase letting Moro running around.

It's just not worth it for safety reasons and also it's not faster. Sure both tanks have boring roles where they just chill, but we literally do Boss 4 in 6:28 with 2 tanks. So ignore what the dude is talking

wheat meteor
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But he never said stagger tank he said key tank two completely different roles. Only lfgs and casual runs really run a stagger tank, but i have not heard of a single group not using a key tank so i am genuinely curious as to what they use if they dont have any key tank.

upbeat mesa
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Key and stagger would be the same thing if you just have 1 tank that does everything. That's it. It's just not worth it, let @vapid tundra talk bs how much he wants. Play as you feel comfortable

wheat meteor
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Not really because if he is going fast like he says, unless they have a dps waiting for key drop the tank would be at the gun and not with morozova.
My point being if the tank is in fact picking up keys its a keytank regardless of whether it also takes on a role of stagger or not which would again make his comment that keytanks are not needed, void and therefore confusing to the masses. In saying that though I would like him to answer only because if he runs with a group thay does not need a tank at all I am actually genuinely interested to hear it whether you think it might be BS or not. I am not so quick to dismiss things until someone explains there position because who knows
:woman_shrugging: They may have found something others havent, its just that sometimes people go about flexin it in a weird way...

viscid fossil
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@odd star i think there issue is keeping aggro, not actually staggering her

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A 40min ih raid is pretty good not gonnah lie

sonic osprey
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So just put of curiosity, how many people would actually consider taking 4 FTCs on a Dark hours raid? We all have high dps builds with atleast 50%CHC and 150%+ CHD... Our friends are very casual players and we've failed to complete the raid about 5 times now so we want to do it with people who actually know what's going on so that we can maybe help the other guys in our clan...

upbeat mesa
rugged hawk
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What actual power of mobs in raid, in comparison with heroic difficulty?
Like if there team of x2 people, x3... ?

upbeat mesa
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Raid is roughly 2 player Heroic scaling. Some damage of enemies is increased like for the snipers

rugged hawk
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Just 2? Sometimes it feels like it's 3-4. Especially for elites

upbeat mesa
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Overall difficult to say since those healers in the raid don't exist in open world. Also purple shotgunners don't have armor in raid...

rugged hawk
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True. Just wanted check somehow if my damage will be enough for raid

upbeat mesa
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All you need for raid in the Standart rilfe/assault rilfe dps build. No skill builds, no shotgun, no smg, no memento.

If you completet the raid a couple of times you can play healer or tank. That's welcome all the time

rugged hawk
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I found for myself that in IH survivality not less important than damage.
Just can't find balance.
And why no memento ?

flint iris
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Because it’s mostly long ranger encounters, and you won’t have the luxury to constantly pick up trophies

upbeat mesa
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Your survivability comes from the healer, the tank who gives bonus armor and from the dps player that kill adds fast so they can even shoot back. The faster an encounter the less add the easier.

Memento only works if you get the kills wich is only good for solo.

rugged hawk
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Ok, i understand.
Just on second boss i often alone at C and full of trophies, same 4th boss ads.
But need more damage to kill medics from one burst

upbeat mesa
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If you are alone on C than there is something wrong with the group imo.

Boss 4 you have healer, 2 tanks with pointman, tardigrade and at least one with protector. You shouldn't need the memento their either.

Obviously this is just advice, I'm am not here to force you what to play

rugged hawk
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You say everything right.
But it's ideal teamwork.

fierce jungle
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momento is fine for boss 2 if you are clearing ads

severe jungle
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that feels when you want to do a raid, but you don't want to lead a raid cause lazy. I can't be the only one right?

azure ruin
formal pollen
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looking to do IH raid on raid voive 4

muted bridge
azure ruin
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you can use pulse as your secondary skill if you want.. or one sharpshooter guy can run his drone which acts like pulse

muted bridge
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I see demo spec, I only see extra explosive damage, and the explosion stagger immunity

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Got some clue why it is too good?

azure ruin
muted bridge
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I guess this only applies for IH right?

azure ruin
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its good for ad clears when they are in formation, you can also use it on razorback vents

muted bridge
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I see

azure ruin
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and yeah, you also give teammates 5% damage to target out of covers

muted bridge
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I thought just use the usual grenades and call it a day. But damage out of cover hmmm

azure ruin
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demo launcher is instant.. you dont have to wait like grenade to explode

muted bridge
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I think demo works best for tanks without artificer hive.

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But you convince me somewhat

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Could be doable for usual dps pawn

serene timber
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Hey everyone. Got a question for some experienced players : Does IH raid still drop the "base material" needed for the Regulus project even though i already had my weekly reset run few days ago? If so, know how much maybe per run?

verbal mist
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you have to wait until next week after reset

serene timber
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I don't mean the actual gear parts btw. Just the base material needed. those 40 of each

verbal mist
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base materials come from the boxes . they reset each week

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Im not sure but maybe discovery drops the base materials from the boxes. You might try that

tender hollow
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Who runs the Raid 2 ? would like to run for the project!
I have only run 1 time Can I run with you where ?

vagrant wing
serene timber
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If i remember correctly, i was at 31/50 yesterday and i did an IH raid and now i'm at 39.

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So it seems bosses drop some tiny bit material i guess

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So i need minimum 1 run for IH today. 2 at most.

vagrant wing
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the bosses drop it on your first clear only as well. Sorry...

tender hollow
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Hey just wanna ask if a team can help me do the dark hour raid on normal have done it time to time on Discovery but never on normal

lethal plover
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I've progressed the regulus quest to the point where I only need the 5 revolver parts. I've done the raid this week already so I assume it won't drop the parts. Does discovery mode count as a separate completion and does it drop the parts for the quest?

vagrant wing
halcyon pebble
broken leaf
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what is RV? )

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nvm, it's voice channel lol

formal pollen
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Need a healer for Iron horse Raid 8

tender hollow
tender hollow
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Why do people bring 3 or 4 blue core builds to raids, when they are just DPS checks?

slim wolf
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Because they've been murdered in the past.

tawdry widget
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Clickbait youtube videos tell them "583 million damage, melt everything, immortal, the only build you need"

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Post TU7 builds are so easy and yet most people still don't know how to put one together, I wish they'd just leave everything regarding talents alone. Those that wined didn't stick around and those that did stick around and are playing, still prefer TU7 builds. It's all backwards logic.

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Bottom line, blue cores on DH just mean people are clueless.

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Even for the jammer build, I've seen the light, yellow cores begone.

timid horizon
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and that's how to ruin the game without a maintenance

formal pollen
hidden drift
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Hey guys. New here. Brother and sister have been playing the game for the last few months and have never tried a raid. I’ve tried reading up a bit bu it’s hard to follow. Simple question. What is a good mix of players to have for the first raid in D2? (How many skill, dps, healer, tank, roles)

vagrant wing
timid horizon
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speed running for crashes: my time: 2min 13sec

small flicker
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@timid horizon rookie numbers, man. i'm at 1min 17sec

tame sage
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at loading screen, kiddos 87%

main hare
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my time 1sec

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game not even started and said "oh no it crashed"

tender hollow
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maintenance is needed tbh or else the game will crash like hell

timid sleet
#

Y'all wanna go play division 1 while we wait?

pastel wolf
tame sage
tender hollow
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finally there is an update people

drowsy totem
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doest work tried it

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before i can get 5 min of play time. now its 1 min and 50 second lul

hexed lily
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I guess not allow play td2 right now as the crash problem...

low forge
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RIP

dapper trail
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Damn, i only had the game for a week and boom crash again and again 🥶

wraith mantle
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I never get crashes but the sound is delayed every time I leave a S, H

drifting valve
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Damn this man is legend

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He doesn't crash dam🅱️

rigid herald
#

how do I get to open the chest on dh raid?

icy hull
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get 5 keys and beat last boss, then open the chest (only on normal difficulty)

rigid herald
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I have done that. several times. but the big cargo plane doesnt open up

icy hull
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sounds like not on normal.

rigid herald
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its normal

icy hull
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never had that issue. since door opens when you kill boss.

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did you matchmake for the raid? If so, thats 100% not normal raid.

lavish ocean
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If the cargo plane isn't open and you can't reach the chest its on Discovery mode

rigid herald
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matchmake? no I just find groups

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full groups

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im going into discovery then

icy hull
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iirc in the top left it tells you what difficulty the raid is on . when in it.

rigid herald
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How can I get to the chest? I got 12 keys

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but finding a raid team is hard. and I can not find one on discovery mode either

icy hull
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beat the boss on normal and the plane opens up so you can open chest.

rigid herald
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but it never does

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for me

icy hull
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then you are not on normal.

rigid herald
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it has always been on normal

icy hull
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TLDR: ive never heard of and issue of the plane not opening up, but the plane doesnt open up on discovery mode.

lavish ocean
#

Normal raid difficulty is when you have to do laptops on Boomer. Buddy and Lucy have a smaller tolerance window. Razorback also launches two mortars instead of one during the closeup phase, and the power stations have to be done simultaneously. If any of those mechanics don't exist, you're most likely on Discovery mode.

brave saddle
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How many keys can you keep? Is there any limit?

vagrant wing
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15 DH keys and 15 IH keys

vernal frigate
#

what type of build do u need to stay in the same room with captain fieser for the entire time

vagrant wing
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well if you want to stay there indefinitely you need to use a hzd ravenous build with some blue cores for good measures (and gunner spec as well i suppose)
Generally speaking you need a hzd build (fire immunity threshold is 91% fyi)

vernal frigate
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why not demolisionist specialization

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20% burn resistances

tame sage
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You will be on fire each 2-3 seconds, if you don't have 95

vagrant wing
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because if you want to stay there indefinitely you'll run out of ammo. If however you want to stay there for certain amount of time Demo is better @vernal frigate

tame sage
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you can't anyway. he will wipe room from time to time

vagrant wing
vagrant wing
tame sage
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if you have no crit chance and crit damage in your build, you will not have enough damage to cancel his ultimate s

vernal frigate
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wait, i thought the ravenous can just stagger it

tame sage
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no, you can't

vagrant wing
tame sage
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he has a weakpoint when using an ultimate. you need to shoot it. and i think it has something around 10m-15m health

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so with full blue cores you will not get it in time

vernal frigate
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good to know

tame sage
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much easier to just step into airlock for this moment

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you don't even need to close the door of this airlock. wait for 2 seconds untill he explodes and go back inside

vernal frigate
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i see

tame sage
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but, yea, you can speed it up by shoot out his weakpoint during wiping phases and you could shoot crucible weakpoint by yourself this way

west spruce
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You can cancel Fieser blast even with full tank build, you just need to do enough damage before he wipes.

tame sage
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dunno. never saw anyone with 6 blue cores doin that

west spruce
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You just have to shoot harder that's all, as long as you do enough damage it can be cancelled.

tame sage
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i'm just saying, that this is a lot of damage

vagrant wing
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The guy speaking to you did 🙂

tame sage
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as I said, I never saw one. I saw CHC/D approach with ceska,yahl and etc, but this is different build. Never saw anyone in full blue doing that. So for me it's impossible, until I see someone doing that in front of me

spring sparrow
#

is there a definitive answer for whether iron horse is easier or harder than dark hours?

tame sage
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depends on player

spring sparrow
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i play as a healer

tame sage
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you don't need a healer in DH, so....

spring sparrow
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oh that doesn't sound good

tame sage
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DH is a DPS check. Yeah, there are many different strats, but at end of the day it still a dps check

icy hull
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IH can be harder but because of its mechanics. DH is just a dps race pretty much

spring sparrow
#

i've tried dark hours with some friends we did it as a group of 5 up to the final boss but then we didn't have enough dps to damage the boss

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it was pretty much just not enough people tbh

tame sage
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ye, razor is annoying when you don't have enough damage/people

spring sparrow
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it didn't help that it was our first time running it too and they didn't want to know what they were doing

tame sage
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IH easier this way, if everyone know what they are doing, it becomes a really smooth and easy raid, especially when you don't need much of a gear to complete it.

spring sparrow
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i had to tell them the grenade in the vent part after them breaking the vents about 6 times in 1 run

west spruce
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tested burning myself in the beginning of lincoln, seems like I am immune to fire below 95 above 92

tame sage
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maybe something is changed. When i below 94% mark, I don't have enough time to even push water at last phase.

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(tried)

west spruce
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maybe Fieser fire is stronger, who knows really.

tame sage
#

yeah

umbral vale
#

a future dps build can help when running 5 on razor back

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and you will need to use the dodge city holster stacks with the rav stacks to do good weak point damage

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unless you can snipe and proc headhunter

cold jay
#

is there bad luck protection on raid exotics?

mortal bronze
indigo junco
#

no piety meter

tame sage
brave saddle
#

Anyone have the perfect kind of hazard tank build? Kindly share it.

vagrant wing
brave saddle
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@vagrant wing ih raid

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Diagnostics and control

vagrant wing
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let me rephrase. Which boss?

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oh i see

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don't use a tank for that 🙂

brave saddle
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Not tank?

vagrant wing
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You can use a healer for the control room with better results and as far as the 3rd boss - there's no need for a tank at all imo

native sphinx
#

anyone have tips on matchmaking raids? we have a group of up to 5 people and when opening up to matchmaking no one ever joins. do i need to find players before heading in or am i doing something wrong?

vagrant wing
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the matchmaking versions a.k.a "discovery" don't give any exclusive loot/exotics - i guess that's the reason most ppl don't play them

native sphinx
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no kidding? well that explains it!

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how do those raid channels in this discord channel work? is there documentation on that?

vagrant wing
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no need. Either look at #lfg-raid-pc for someone who's looking for members and jump into the RV (raid voice) they specified or create a raid of your own, jump into an RV and actively recruit ppl

native sphinx
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man this is amazing

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(i also just pieced together what LFG stands for) - thank you!

frail mango
#

What is a good raid to do for a first timer?

tawdry widget
# native sphinx (i also just pieced together what LFG stands for) - thank you!

Both are doable for first timers. Dark Hours is the first one, it's more of a DPS check. The second one, Iron Horse, needs more coordination, so everyone will have, more or less, a task to do on each boss. Bring a red DPS build to either, around 50 crit chance and 150 crit damage. 3x Providence, 1x Sombra, 1x Fox Prayers. The last piece can be Coyote's Mask, Contractor Gloves, Ceska or even Fenris if you're using an AR. Damage talents on both chest and backpack.

frail mango
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Aight perfect that’s actually what I’m running thanks chino

tame sage
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Btw, this week is perfect to build your DPS build

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We have contractor's gloves and fox prayer selling for just money

frail mango
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Yeah grabbed those quick lol

tame sage
#

Almost god rolled fenris too (mask)

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In clan vendor 14WD and 4.5 crit chance

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Also, 10% CHD (mod) in white house vendor

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and good enough m1a to reroll talent in clan vendor.

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sooooo, if anybody tells me, that they can't build up a good red set up - LIAR

tawdry jasper
#

But everyone nowadays requires 3 providence with vigilance '-' that is so hard

native sphinx
#

Ok so CC builds are not helpful in raids, do I understand that correctly?

fluid pier
civic dagger
#

the best CC is when all the enemies are dead

drifting grove
#

New to this discord. I’m looking for some British players to help me with the raid Dark hours. Would love to get the eagle bearer and give it a try. I’m okay, I’m sure many are better. Got many builds, just need help. Be nice make some friends. All the best.

fluid pier
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Certain CC builds can help with getting those enemies killed alongside keeping your teammates alive.

dusky bolt
#

Yes

dull mountain
#

CremeDu

tame sage
#

hello guys. Is there any walkthrough videos for DH? I played it many times, but I want to learn mechanics, how it works and etc

sick spindle
vagrant wing
tender hollow
tame sage
tame sage
vagrant wing
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I think there isn't an in depth one as i said. Just ask i guess some one from the speedrun community will pop to answer your question I'm sure

tawdry widget
fierce jungle
storm badge
#

How much damage is needed to break Fieser weakpoint?

tame sage
fierce jungle
#

Oh then astro has the dh speed guides for 3/4 bosses

foggy sandal
#

Hi, is it hard to get the future initative chestpiece?

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like in terms of droprate

icy hull
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its just RNG, but asking raid for the piece helps too maybe someone got and extra one.

dusky mirage
#

hey can anyone join my session to inspect my gear? I want to get into raiding, so i would appreciate if anyone can take a look and see if the set i made is adequate for raids

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groups open

meager snow
dusky mirage
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Thanks guys, I got some advice, hopefully i will join a raid soon 🙂

old bronze
#

what are people referring to when they say RV7 in the LFG?

vapid briar
old bronze
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Ahhh, thanks.

tender hollow
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@tender hollow is it ok to join up with y'all even though I don't have a mic?

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sure

#

cool, ty

#

war.saw.pakt I just sent a friend request via uplay

wraith mantle
#

Sub 19m run on DH woop

tender hollow
#

my goodness

#

nice

wraith mantle
#

18m 28sec

wicked niche
#

Most playing raids with expansion? Or it doesn't matter?

severe jungle
#

For those in the LFG channel talking, here is probably the more appropriate place to have this discussion before the mods eat us

frosty rock
#

Agreed

bitter nimbus
#

facts

frosty rock
#

but yeah, I've had thousands of great LFG experiences, there's always a bad egg here and there, but for the most part people are more than willing to try new things

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Ask @bitter nimbus , he knows what I mean haha

severe jungle
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There are fine experiences, and a lot of times I bring a bunch of my clan members here and specifically teach new guys. But I've had plenty of experiences where people just come in and don't even ask, they just do their own thing. Really disincentives running them

bitter nimbus
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its just bothering when people wont comunicate or talk an leaves you dumb founded

frosty rock
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I think most of that comes from inexperience though, back when DH was popular, this discord was full of raids of super experienced raiders that knew almost everything about DH and the LFG courtesies

severe jungle
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Nah, you get plenty of people that have 100 raids under their belt that are convinced everyone else is stupid. Or maybe I'm just unlucky lol

frosty rock
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That's the rare breed you gotta watch out for

tender hollow
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Sorry about that for peeps in rv5, my game just went absolutely crazy

sonic osprey
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How many people with experience are willing to take 2 FTC's on an ironhorse raid?

tender hollow
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@sonic osprey look in #lfg-raid-pc etc. and u just go into any raid voice that doesn't say exp / exp only. if the group has enough dps you will finish, if not you wont or it will take ages to finish

vital moat
verbal mist
exotic umbra
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regulus parts only drop from 1st clear of the week right

signal basin
muted bridge
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ok.. i have 6 clears of DH under my belt, need to start doing kiting and turret for boss 1 and 2(in the 7/1 scenario), should i just go tank and scorpio?

delicate mantle
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for all encounters really

muted bridge
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maybe except the last boss in dh

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which is abit tricky if you only have concussion grenades to work with

delicate mantle
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you can still dps the grate

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if no crossbows and if no jammer you can have 4 others go jammer inside too as dps build

muted bridge
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i figured out mostly the behaviour of the outside spawns of DH last arena, hope it stays that way

delicate mantle
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or shoot the drones

muted bridge
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boomer one still most difficult

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shooting drones hehe, probably die before I get more than 2 drones

delicate mantle
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the most known way imo is to have a dedicated drone person on the inside

muted bridge
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i mean, why do it the hard way when there is an easy way, i need a disrupt build with crossbow or something

delicate mantle
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get a hard wired set with at least ~85% skill damage on survivalist for starters if you were looking for a build for it

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that way you take care of drone and crossbow

muted bridge
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is there a reason to get hardwired instead of the empress hana-u for this?

delicate mantle
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skill reset so you can kill the drones quick with the 2-3 waves

muted bridge
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i have a hardwired set, but not sure why it is superior, use it for seekers mostly

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hmm, i see

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do you even need the skill reset?

delicate mantle
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hard wired + skilled chest piece usually

muted bridge
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skill haste will do?

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need to disrupt multiple times?

delicate mantle
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yeah your jammer won't be up before the next wave of drones most of the time so you reset with your hive to be ready for it

muted bridge
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so its revive hive + disrupt

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10 second cooldown

delicate mantle
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yeah, and if you get skilled talent proc you get instant refresh on kill

muted bridge
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but skilled talent is a rng thing, no? let me check

delicate mantle
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yeah

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that's why it's good to have hard wired in case it doesn't reset from skilled

muted bridge
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i guess this is a good to have but not essential thing

delicate mantle
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nah, think of it as qol I guess, everyone on inside wouldn't want drones buzzing around while damaging weak points so they just have a guy do it to make it easier to do their job

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you can clear the raid just fine with all dps, dh is just a huge dps check a lot of the time

muted bridge
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oh well, when i see people have problems killing ads (including me on my first DH), wonders

tawdry widget
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@muted bridge A jammer build with Hardwire isn't a must, per se. Razorback was being cleared everyday when it was released, without it. Yet, with that said, it's not only a good thing to have for any team, it's especially good for a team that hasn't mastered all the mechanics. It mitigates one of the variables that can lead to wipes and general chaos / lack of focus on weak points.

muted bridge
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i can see it as a plus

tawdry widget
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There are a few ways to do it, but the easiest is 4x Hardwire (with backpack), Wyvern chest with Glass Cannon or Kinetic Momentum (I'd stay away from Skilled as it doesn't work 100% of the times) and BTSU so you can refresh hives if needed.

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Skill damage on all pieces (except BTSU that have repair / haste) and Survivalist for the crossbow / opening vents instantly.

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It's a true support role as it makes the life of the other 7 players much easier.

delicate mantle
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with kinetic momentum that allow you to kill drones even without the 10% skill damage from watch levels? I haven't personally tried with that yet, only skilled and pgc/gc

edit: oh duh, I should read the talent lol

muted bridge
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minimum +86% skill damage, got it

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hmm, think that hardwired backpack is more useful for the 10s refresh

tawdry widget
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I personally go Glass Cannon and have 90%, it's enough. Those 90% are the value I always aimed at.

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Yes, Hardwire backpack is a must.

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Won't work without it.

muted bridge
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oh well, likely i go for wyvern chest or something

tawdry widget
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You can have both the Wyvern chest and the Hardwire backpack.

muted bridge
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could go for 1 blue/red core somewhere if i'm packing the tdi pistol

tawdry widget
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Yes, you can. Actually, in reality, you can also do it with zero yellows.

muted bridge
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sufficient damage?

tawdry widget
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I run mine with 6 reds.

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Yellow tiers, in the specific case of the Jammer, doesn't add damage, only range

muted bridge
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ah... but range is good too

tawdry widget
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It is, yes

muted bridge
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hmm, good idea, thanks

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but i go with range, can't go wrong with range

tawdry widget
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I do it like this because I'm comfortable with it, with the teams I run it with

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But the Yellow version is the tried and true version of that build, can't go wrong with it.

delicate mantle
tawdry widget
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I won't go back, honestly, eheh

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I do mine with 4x Hardwire (with backpack), The Sacrifice Perfect Glass Cannon and Gunslinger Exotic Holster. Ravenous + D50

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Skill damage on all pieces except for the Holster, +10 from the watch, that's 90% with Perfect Glass Cannon

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The range is low, but I just need to go hug Razorback when doing it

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It's a matter of confidence / practice

delicate mantle
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gonna yoink that build rq lol, never did I think I'd be looking for a pgc with skill damage - but by hugging razorback do you mean on inside of the circle?

tawdry widget
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No, run up to it

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Well, your team has to be quick with the nades / demo rounds

delicate mantle
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ah

tawdry widget
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So the green circles disappear

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But you're usually fine doing the first Jam from the circle

delicate mantle
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so sounds like it can still be done fine in a pug setting

tawdry widget
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On the subsequent ones, it depends if you're running around or not. I am while doing weak points, so I just run to it

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It can, but be ready for some chaos on the first times you try it

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You can also practice it on Discovery mode, the amount of damage needed to kill the drones is the same as in Normal

delicate mantle
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I'll take that risk 😅 on the sacrifice, guessing chc and skill damage?

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or just go with the wep handling?

tawdry widget
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I use CHD, and mods too

delicate mantle
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ah ok

dusky mirage
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is shield splinter a good AR pick for DH?

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thats not EB or Bighorn lmao

tawdry widget
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I'm not a fan of Optimist, but it depends on your playstyle, if you always let the magazine empty or not

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If I recall correctly, the F2000 is missing a mod too

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Alternatives to the EB / Bighorn: Famas, Police M4, Carbine 7, Honey Badger

dusky mirage
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so i should look for those brands instead of Splinterer?

tawdry widget
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If you have a maxed Splinterer, you can go with it

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It's not bad, it's just tied to that talent

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I go with Fast Hands, but that's a personal preference

dusky mirage
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cool ok thanks

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i was going to run scorpio/bakers dozen but i dont like the fact it leaves a lot to be desired for mid range

muted bridge
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bakers are fine mid-range, no?

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i use bakers alot, though in a abandon/wasteful way

dusky mirage
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yeah they work but i prer something full auto

muted bridge
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i use m1a/burnout on my dps build, switch them according to expected engagement range and the enemies...

tawdry widget
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Baker's is ok, but an M1A with a damage increasing talent, like Rifleman or Boomerang is ideal

dusky mirage
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ok thanks

brave saddle
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Looking for 2 exp. Iron horse fresh. Inbox me/dm me.

glacial rain
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Hey i have a question, we did a Clan Speedrun in Operation Dark Hours on ps4 and made the second place. But we dont are on the list now. Do you know if is the list broken or something?

tawdry widget
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I'm on PC, so can't really comment, but what happened exactly? Your whole clan disappeared from the list? On one day it was there, the next it wasn't?

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Sounds like something you should post in UBI forum

lilac saddle
tawdry widget
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At least on PC, raid times are individual, per se. You see your individual time, then if you have 7 other people with the same time, from the same clan, you can assume it was a clan run, but that's it. The game doesn't group people by clan on the leaderboards. On PC, at least.

azure ruin
dusky mirage
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its aight now i got an eagle bearer

azure ruin
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Eagle bearer is good looking gun but doesn’t give you any dmg from talent.. instead of using eagle bearer, you should try Railsplitter. It gives you 50% flat accuracy if that’s what you’re looking for.. in pvp settings, eagle bearer talent can offer you value if you get kill with headshot

upbeat mesa
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Eagle is a PVE meme, only good for pvp

glacial rain
tawdry widget
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Was it Discovery, by any chance?

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As in, you're looking in the wrong place.

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Just asking to see if that could be the issue.

fierce jungle
glacial rain
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I looked at Clan leaderboard the time of seconde place is 32 Minutes and we did 31 minutes. When i look on personal leaderboard there are our Times.

pseudo sky
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How should I get started on raids? Never done one and Im not sure if I have the correct shit or if the loot is good enough to grind for.

fierce jungle
glacial rain
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Yeah i think so too

brave saddle
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Anyone tried staggering morozova with merciless? If yes, how was it?

wheat meteor
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You can but you use a fair bit of ammo. You could also use a grenade launcher, scorpio, tech rockets if you dont have a Ravenous.
A few people used the mericless very early on in IH before they got their Rav drops

brave saddle
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@wheat meteor thinking of trying the merciless instead of ravanous today....
I shouldn't be merciless with the merciless..

tender hollow
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give it a try, but using rav is easier especially if you pin the boss next to the door, its only 2 shots to stagger, and you can prep the first one too.

muted bridge
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grinding for a build outside dps is boooring

random void
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hi guys . is anyone going for some raid action soon?

unique solar
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Anyone down for dark hour today?

vagrant wing
acoustic flare
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I just got back into the game when can you do raids after you just ;8: it

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Did *

trail oriole
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It resets on Tuesdays or you can farm the 4th bosses for keys.

acoustic flare
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Ahhh bet ty

tender hollow
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hey every one

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wanna join a caln to play the game with

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any invites ? im a good player i guess

brave saddle
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Is 99.2 burn resistant okay for ih fieser

lilac saddle
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Then again I haven't done IH yet so how am I supposed to know

flint iris
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Keep in mind that burn res doesn’t reduce fire tick dmg while in the furnace, it just allows you to not go on fire (being unable to ads) while at 100 stacks

brave saddle
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@flint iris hazard = fire right?

flint iris
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Yes

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fire is a hazard

azure sage
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Did a 100% hazpro DPS build with 4 piece Eclipse (60%hazpro). Chest (red core, hazpro attribute) , backpack(red core, crit damage attribute , knee-pads (red core, hazpro attribute), and holster(red core, hazpro attribute). Yaahl Mask with blue core and hazpro attribute (20% hazpro), Firm Handshake Gloves(recal to 10% hazpro), the other 10% is from SHD watch which makes it 100%. Scorpio 1st weapon, AUG A3 Par XS SMG with optimist for 2nd weapon, TDI "Kard" Custom Pistol. Mods to crit damage, Demo Spec (use gunner, crossbow, or technician, according to your preference), Reviver and shield for skills (up to you on what to use).

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will try it later on IH

gilded heath
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This is a good way to mitigate the ensnare status effect during boss 3 und the way to the last boss with the sticky traps

tame sage
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So, I'm curious, what is the treshold between red and blue cores, to have enough damage for fiercer wipe interrupt?

gusty willow
tame sage
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it's not about cores but you have 2red/4blue ye ye. Someone done any testing?

vagrant wing
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but to be on the safe side - i'd go with 1 red. It's more than enough provided you're using high RPM wpn/exo holster with a D50

tame sage
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so answer is no, no one did

vagrant wing
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huh? Stellar said he can do it without any red cores and you can actually browse his streams and see it for yourself. What exactly are you saying then?

tame sage
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So I suppose to know that he had steams of his gameplay?

vagrant wing
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Stellar88x good luck

west spruce
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I mean I did mentioned awhile back that you can do it without any red core, as long as you do enough dmg within that timespan.

azure ruin
# tame sage so answer is no, no one did

I did it myself will all 6 blues during early days of IH exploration but then i moved to 3 red 3 blue build... as you shouldn’t be inside forge just to cancel wipe but rather to prep him close to 4 and half bars

gusty willow
vagrant wing
tame sage
west spruce
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well i said full tank, so it's 6 blue. so to answer your question is any core will work, as long as you do enough damage.

west spruce
tender hollow
tame sage
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And you guys asking, why I'm still unsure of this matter lol

vagrant wing
west spruce
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I am also unsure what is the expected answer here, both @gusty willow and @azure ruin gave great discourse about asking the right question of not focusing on the core, but I do entertain by giving what you are asking about (you can do it with 0 red, you can do it with 6 reds), at the end of the day, you just need to be able to do x amount of damage in y secs to be able to interrupt, and looking at single aspect of core in the build is not the only way to tackle this.

tame sage
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yeah, you're right. Also, probably no one checked how much health this weakpoint has, so everyone use different approaches because of that. This also a reason, why i'm trying to find out that. Need a testing group

vagrant wing
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it seems like you need to do about 6M dmg in about ~5 seconds. Numbers were taken from here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2eqNPTy9yY at 6:18. Took him 44 bullets in a bit less than 4 seconds. You can repeat the math pretty easily if you'll jump a bit sooner and see his dmg numbers @tame sage it's ofc a rough estimation and you can't treat it as the accurate value, although i'd say it gives a good approximation

tame sage
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hm, yeah, at least it's a reference

west spear
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is anyone willing to teac a newbie?

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for any of the 2 raids

toxic orchid
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ive done it with 5 blue and dodge city then swap to my 6-12 with insync and pop the shield, couple shots canceled it in total

broken kraken
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ps4 looking for 3 IH kwtd

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if interested add my psn: GladdMain

solemn pine
muted bridge
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Does IH discovery actually show you the bosses mechanics?

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Can test your yet - optimised builds against them?

signal basin
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It shows you a modified version of the boss mechanics. I haven’t ran a full IH discovery myself, but it basically dumbs it down.

muted bridge
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Need to ask someone because for DH discovery the boss mechanics are quite similar

vagrant wing
open gale
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I feel like I'm an idiot but when they say LF1M "RV1" what does the "RV" mean?

delicate mantle
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raid voice

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it's one of the 25 channels below

open gale
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makes sense. Thanks

muted bridge
signal basin
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Both are really

vagrant wing
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kinda yeah. I does however show you the layout of the rooms and some dialed back version of what to expect

muted bridge
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Not really, for DH discovery aside from the laptop in the boomer room there isn't much mechanical differences

vagrant wing
muted bridge
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Hmm, I never notice, hmmm

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Sigh

vagrant wing
muted bridge
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Okay. Didn't notice the circle part need to be in sync

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But the rest is just increased difficulty, no?

vagrant wing
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no? that's mechanics i'd say

muted bridge
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Hmm, oh well.

clear meteor
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What is the role of the water on iron horse?

delicate mantle
dull raven
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splash splash to make it go boom boom

icy hull
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@ebon pine @quaint timber wrong channel for LFG raid, please use the LFG raid channel. next time.

toxic heron
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shame that very few players are left playing the raids... you barely see any new raid groups.. it's always the same 25-40 people every day. They seriously need to do something to bring back people to the game

gusty willow
icy hull
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@quaint timber @noble sandal wrong channel, please use the LFG raid one.

noble sandal
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My bad

dusky mirage
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is it ok to use the same red build for both raids? I made one for DH but idk if its transferable or not

toxic orchid
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if you can kill in dh, you can kill in ih

dusky mirage
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cool

safe cosmos
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The only important part is, dont use something that might get outranged by mechanics

icy hull
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@hidden mortar wrong channel, please use the LFG raid channel.

vapid girder
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I might try raiding for the first time soon, but what would be a good first time build for ih? I got a standard red build that gets me through your typical missions, but i know raiding is a lot different

cunning night
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For your first time, a standard red rifle/AR build is your best bet. You probably won’t be doing most of the special roles

vapid girder
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I see, thank you

little tusk
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what does "LF5M" mean?

valid marlin
quick niche
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any raid for pc?

valid marlin
quick niche
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@valid marlin okay

little tusk
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Question- We were at the last boss in IH and my power went out. So will the checkpoint save for me or i'll have to do the raid from the beginning?

viscid fossil
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yeah your checkpoint would be boss 4

vocal shadow
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Hi all, would it be possible to be invited to a RAID group i am hoping to complete IH RAID. I almost managed to secure the IH railway yard, soloing it, until the big boss man with all his shielded dudes arrived. my tag division 2 tag is TeslaKnight91 ? thanks

tawdry widget
formal pollen
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Iron Horse Raid voice 1

languid otter
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Is a capacitor build ‘acceptable’ in the raids? I have a build with 60 chc 195 chd, tamper proof and unbreakable, running a turret.

vagrant wing
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The build sound ok to me although you probably better off with a different weapon.
Quick question: how can you have Tamper proof & Unbreakable tho?

languid otter
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Tamper proof and perfect vigilance, my bad. Capacitor stacks the turret though for extra damage though - what weapon in place of the capacitor and the crit damage it gives ?

stiff zephyr
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most people just don't run skill builds until you are expedience with raids to know when they are viable, I would aim for a standard red build with any high end weapon (famas, carbine 7, akm)

vagrant wing
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They didn't described a skill build tho

stiff zephyr
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yeh, but running capacitor on a dps build is still weird

cinder kestrel
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anybody doin dark hour raid?

stiff zephyr
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viable possibly weird yes

cinder kestrel
icy hull
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running capacitor on a weapon dps build is bad, since you lose the WD talent of it. At that point Insync is much better.

languid otter
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Yeah it’s not a skill build, just taking advantage of the 40 stacks the capacitance gives for extra damage from the turret, with tamper proof for initial add control. It’s an all red build

stiff zephyr
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yeh in raids you will not be relying on a turret for dps

vagrant wing
# languid otter Tamper proof and perfect vigilance, my bad. Capacitor stacks the turret though f...

Let me start with why the Capacitor + the turret aren't a good choice.
Some bosses can't be targeted by skills either completely or during period of times (DH - Boomer & razor, IH - Morozova) some bosses will intsa kill your skills if you don't know where to deploy them (B&L). Moreover the Capacitor 3rd attribute is DTA and not DTooC which make it bad in comparison to other weapons. It's small mag doesn't help too

After all that - the build you described seems fine whether you use the Capacitor or not

stiff zephyr
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if you choose to replace unbreakable with obliterate or something because dps for most parts of the raid = suviability (can't spell) or you have medics and vangard to keep you alive

manic stone
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On the topic of the capacitor - the way it’s weapon mods increase crit chance and crit damage can give you an unclear picture of the build w/o it equipped. I believe (but not online right now) it’s mods give 10 crit chance and 15 crit damage - this amount of bonus from mods is not possible on normal high end weapons.

icy hull
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30 chd FYI.

manic stone
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Damn, even higher than I thought.

icy hull
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But for a full red build, the weapon mods on the weapon, don’t make up the loss of all the other stuff. Also insync gives you a nice boost to skill damage still and without the loss of WD (for the red build).

manic stone
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I agree. A damage talent plus DTOOC is much better. In most of my builds at about 150 crit dam, the return for adding regular damage is greatly diminished.

icy hull
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Don’t forget the gain of 10 more rounds from using a normal weapon over capacitor as well.

azure ruin
manic stone
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Yeah, it is a decent gun but I too prefer others.

languid otter
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, much appreciated

solemn bison
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Hi Guys, Anyone doing DH raid? I am available

tender hollow
cinder kestrel
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anyone doing DH?

valid marlin
keen garden
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Kinda dumb question, but if I ran Iron Horse a second time in a week, would I still be able to get the raid exclusive loot like the future initiative pieces and Ironworks base materials, or are those on a weekly lockout?

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I do know the keys are weekly, except for the one that drops from the final boss

vapid briar
keen garden
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@vapid briar Damn it, I was hoping I wouldn't be doing multiple resets worth for Regulus. Thanks for the info

vapid briar
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It's by design. You gotta finish the FI and FB projects first, before the actual Regulus projects unlocks

keen garden
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Yeah, figured that much. And that's both the Acquisition and Assembly projects, right?

vapid briar
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yeah

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The regulus project itself apparently can be done within 1 run because each boss drops a part. Can't say for sure, though, because I'm still missing the FI chest myself 😄

keen garden
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Yeah, I heard that it was each boss drops a part, and the final part drops from the chest

vapid briar
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As I said, your best bet is to let people know what gear pieces you're looking for. Most of the frequent raiders here have everything and just raid for the lulz, so they usually are nice enough to actually drop them for you.

signal basin
sand vortex
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Van someone send there photo of numbers of valves on Iron horse 3th boss thanks

tawdry widget
sand vortex
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thanks alot

tawdry widget
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I made that in the beginning, I'd make it differently now, but just for future reference, when you first go into that boss, the numbers will never be less than 5 and more than 9.

fierce jungle
trail oriole
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As long as you run it on an alt, yeah. You just won't get the exotic comps until the following reset, even if you finish the projects this week.

left gorge
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Can I join somebody on the raids please please

sand frigate
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any advice on the IH raid as a healer? completely new here

vagrant wing
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Tbh your first couple IH clears shouldn't be as a healer for 2 reasons:

  1. The healer is a crucial part in IH and has some important roles to do (the healer usually doesn't "just heal"). Until your know these roles you should play as a DPS
  2. Your healer build - no matter how good you think it is, isn't as good as others since you simply don't have the Future Initiative (FI) backpack & chest (which allows you to run the BTSU gloves)
    Put a red DPS build together, state that your new and look for a group. That's basically it. You learn IH by doing. No matter how many vids you'll see - it won't be like the real thing
upbeat mesa
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^this

sand frigate
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for sure thank you 😄

muted bridge
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gah, screwed up big time in the razor back, not sure why banshee pulse wasnt working

quaint timber
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doing iron horse grinding im looking for the ravenous if u already have it hook me up if u can im in raid voice 1

valid marlin
cinder kestrel
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guys i know it sounds silly but i opned the key cases in dh and in the second run the cases were allready opened, how long does they have cooldown? like daily or weekly?

vapid briar
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weekly. reset is tuesdays

cinder kestrel
tender hollow
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raid 3 dh raid

verbal mist
muted bridge
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nah, just normal yellows

gilded tulip
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i actually need help in raid if anybody got space for 1

thorn haven
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Hello, we doing Dark Hours for Eagle Bearer channel 6, if you already have it and ok to help you welcome channel 6

stiff zephyr
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@winter pike you need to get a better build before you do raids, this is not an insult this is a recommendation

weary coral
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is hunter's fury a good dps build for dh?

warm ibex
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Sorry but no

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Classic m1a or ar meta build is my recommandation for raids

thorn haven
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Hello, we doing Dark Hours for Eagle Bearer channel 6, if you already have it and ok to help you welcome channel 7

hexed vector
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whats min requirement for 1st time raiders like besides

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being lvl 40 etc

tender hollow
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Hello all.im looking for a raid. im a new comer to raids so. 😛

mint silo
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we need 1 person for the raid

mellow tide
tender hollow
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anyone doing DH raid dm me if you are or and if a spot opens

tender hollow
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we need 4 for DH raid join raid vc 5 if u wanna join

golden wagon
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Looking fot DH raid group, have dps raid build

upbeat mesa
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Use lfg raid channels

umbral vale
#

what is the best way to kill the chunga jumping out the train on morizova

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ive been tryhing headhunter but itfails to proc some times

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and still requires 2 sjots

signal basin
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Blinder firefly can bust the weak point, then burst dps. Ravenous works as well if you have it.

umbral vale
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he must die before he drops down

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trying to key skip

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even stacking rav with m1a works but its not guaranteed

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so i was trying to solo it

atomic nova
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Tip headhunter

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Works a treat

pine aurora
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Doing it solo you use Tip of the Spear 4 peice, chainkiller chest, araldi vigilance backpack... headshot dmg on everything. Have keytank spawn 2 snipers, build headhunter stacks from those 2 snipers WITH Nemisis, break helmet with nemisis the second the doors open and swap to Tac50 and hit the headshot as he reaches the edge of the storm drain.

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Ive found waiting to take the kill shot until he reaches the edge of the storm drain to work best for me as his head hitbox seems to pause as he begins his jump down

pine aurora
umbral vale
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thanks

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can i not finish up with the namisis?

pine aurora
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Its been so long that I'm not sure if a full charge nemisis will kill one shot or not

umbral vale
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i guess ill lose the head hunter stack on cracking the helmet

pine aurora
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Tac50 hits 14mil which is enough to kill though and requires no charge up. I usually break, step a few steps left or right incase I have a mortar on me and then take the 50 shot

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Yeah you loose all stacks cracking the helm

umbral vale
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ok thanks ill give it a go

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we was considering using a explosive sticky from our healer and follow up with rav stacked m1a

pine aurora
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Yeah theres a couple ways to skin a cat, I can only speak to the headhunter way as Ive never tried the rav/M1A methods... they seem to be more popular in the asian scene

fierce jungle
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It would be easier to break the helmet AND kill with the tac50 btw. that’s really the point in the tips build, so that you can break and kill without charging or switching guns

fluid pier
umbral vale
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sounds better to break and kill with the tac 50

fluid pier
tender hollow
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To add some numbers to the discussion,
Helmet break should be roughly 25mil ( can confirm less 24.3 did not crack for me but 26mil did)
Kill shot is around 9.5 to 10 mil ( can confirm that I killed with around 9.8 or so)

Which ever variant works for you, Nemesis or TAC50 stick with it.

worn falcon
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Can someone help explain the raid checkpoints. I have just played IH and killed 2nd boss, but had to leave. If i start the raid again will it start from after that boss and will this be reset on the raid reset. Would i have to be the raid host to start from this checkpoint? Thanks

signal basin
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If you host the raid you should have the option to begin at your checkpoint.

azure fossil
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Having a discussion and need to work something out if anyone knows:

At Morozova, is it possible to destroy all the mortars with rockets, in phases 2 & 3 -- without triggering a wipe? I know it's unnecessary, but just curious what happens, as it isn't SOP in the raid.

tawdry widget
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After you destroy the red bullet you can keep destroying the mortars, as long as Morozova isn't DPS'd to go in

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But they will come up after X amount of time

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I'm not sure if it's possible to have all down at the same time during phases 2 & 3

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The 2 wipe triggers on that encounter are the red bullet that needs to be destroyed and Morozova that if DPS below a certain amount of armour will go in and force everyone to go in.

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If you only destroy the red bullet but don't DPS her, in theory, it could go on forever.

tender hollow
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DH anyone

tender hollow
# tawdry widget If you only destroy the red bullet but don't DPS her, in theory, it could go on ...

For 2nd and 3rd phase... I've only seen it once, but people say you shoot one missile at each mortar so they are at 1/2 health. i.e. get all mortars at 1/2 health first. Then destroy the left 2 (doesn't really matter) at the same time. Then the countdown starts [as soon as one mortar is totally destroyed]. Then the destroy the last 2 mortars asap.

If you don't destroy all 4 mortars in the 2nd and 3rd phase quick enough after you destroy the first one, they all regen to full health, even the ones that have already been destroyed..

azure fossil
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Thanks for the info, I didn't know it was on a timer -- very strange mechanic overall. Especially that they require you to destroy the 1st phase mortars, but not the 2nd and 3rd phase ones.

west spruce
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destroying mortars are set up to be trigger to spawn Morozova, hence the requirement on first phase; Morozova is already out after that, so destroying them again serves no purpose apart of lowering the chance of being bombarded.

golden wagon
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any openings...raid

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RV2? need 8th person?

ruby flower
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lfg DH raid kwtd

valid marlin
golden wagon
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thank you!

quasi plinth
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i am looking for players to do the iron horse raid with me on normal feel free to add me on uplay brand-o_00

dusty totem
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anyone doing iron hourse guy id like to do i nevr done it before

flint nebula
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How long do raids take to complete for an inexperienced group? I really want to raid but it's hard to find large chunks of time

tawdry widget
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depends on which raid, depends on the group, depends on how well people know the mechanics and what builds they have. if no one knows / have unsuitable builds, it may well take forever. if most people know what to do, for Iron Horse reserve 1 to 2 hours with a few wipes to complete and for Dark Hours, it can be done in well less than 1 hour.

dusty totem
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if anyone wants to do the raid iron hours can you pls add me Apigos

tender hollow
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Ok u online?

viscid fossil
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is there reset tonight

vapid briar
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Yes, in an hour

viscid fossil
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sorry i mean maintanance

vapid briar
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Nothing has been announced

viscid fossil
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please dnt join the rv's if you dnt want to play @tender hollow

shy gazelle
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if anyono

coral oxide
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will a standard FI healer build suffice to solo control room with the windows broken?

normal mirage
limber thistle
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someone for dark hour?

icy hull
limber thistle
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okay, sorry

sonic osprey
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I dont know if this is the right channel for this, so correct me if not.. but ive been watching the IH raid guide videos and I dont understand how to kinda skip the red (fire) phase on the third boss? can someone maybe explain this to me because we have never been succesfull with skipping it .

tawdry widget
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you have to be quick upstairs on the control panel, already pressing the button, before the fire phase comes

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if you can do that, then the person in front of the red panel, down stairs, will be able to press it / skip it

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that's all there is to it, have to be quick going up

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ideally, start going up before the last phase status has ended (electric / steam) and the healer should keep an eye on you to heal you while you're up there

vagrant wing
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Also although it's convenient to skip the red, it's not a must. Especially if you're not doing speeds. You can do it normally just fine while the diagnostic guy hang back on one of the bridges

tender hollow
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What’s a raid

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How do you raid?

stiff zephyr
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have you finished the dlc?

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(hit level 40)

stiff zephyr
tender hollow
stiff zephyr
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simple answer no

tender hollow
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Oh

stiff zephyr
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for you first run an AR build is best

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on ether raid

tender hollow
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I have only skill build

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And a chameleon

stiff zephyr
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get grinding son

tender hollow
crystal pond
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Are healers needed for raiding?

stiff zephyr
tender hollow
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So I can’t use my turret and drone build in raids?

stiff zephyr
tender hollow
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:( but I want to raid

stiff zephyr
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because for example IH 4th boss, you can't dps the boss outside certain times

signal basin
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Start getting a dps build together.

stiff zephyr
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DH 2nd, you can't take the bosses agro away unless you know what to do

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ect

crystal pond
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My buddy and I are newer to the division, I am running a healer build and he is a shield tank. I know a few raids are heavily in favor of dps checks so I just wanted to know if we would be better off getting a gun dps build together so we don't bog the team down as newbies. I also have a Vile mask pyro build but I am pretty sure it won't do anything in raids.

stiff zephyr
tender hollow
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But you can do missions so quickly with a skill build

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Why not raid

tawdry widget
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@tender hollow you need to ask that to the developers

stiff zephyr
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because raids are nothing like missions

tender hollow
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I just want to raid :(

crystal pond
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Raiding has more mechanics that require precise dps, skill builds don't really do that to my understanding.

fossil hinge
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what does rv stand for

stiff zephyr
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full insult ment, please stop being a brat.

stiff zephyr