#td2-raid-discussions

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hardy shell
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well f.ock me i just deconstrucked my 499 m1a right when you sai that

icy hull
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2nd overlord is great though. or 2nd petrov

hardy shell
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can the cqb variant replace it?

smoky tapir
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generally just go coyotes and be the coyote person for the group 😛

icy hull
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coyotes = WONy so level 30 cant

tawdry widget
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CQB is actually better, you just have to land your shots as the faster RPM can make it more difficult.

smoky tapir
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nope coyotes is base game

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didn't it come out just before wony

icy hull
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nope its WONY season 1

smoky tapir
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nm that chameleon

hardy shell
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but shouldnt i use overlord for rifle damage?

smoky tapir
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wrong C exotic

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i need more coffee

icy hull
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you mean "coyotes in disguise 😎 " @smoky tapir

hardy shell
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i actually have enough money for the dlc now,but does it worth it?especially when the off topic room saying the game is coming to an end

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maybe i can save up for div3?

tawdry widget
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Only you can answer that.

smoky tapir
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theres no telling whats next. Year 3 is coming up soon

tawdry widget
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A) Div 3 hasn't been announced.
B) If it is coming it will take a while.

smoky tapir
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i doubt a div3 anytime soon since div1 was out for 3 years before div2

hardy shell
icy hull
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@hardy shell Its well worth it if you like the game. Also Zero info on Div 3 atm and even then, that would be in at fastest ~2 years out .

tawdry widget
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So you'll have time to save money, if it comes out.

hoary ridge
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@hardy shell if u wonna re grind everything

hardy shell
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well thats alot of useful stuff ive learned this evening

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thanks guys

smoky tapir
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i wouldn't expect anything about div3 till late next year at the earliest, covid prob set back a lot of dates as is

hoary ridge
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probably

hardy shell
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cuz of the virus theme around it

smoky tapir
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i wouldn't be suprised another expansion announced for year 3

hardy shell
tawdry widget
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If you're enjoying the game and don't see a reason to stop playing, WONY is still worth it. Only you can say if the game is dying or not, by enjoying it or not, regardless of what everyone else says.

hoary ridge
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i want them to makke more raids

hardy shell
hoary ridge
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literally the only reason we grind for loot is to do raids and legendaries

hardy shell
tawdry widget
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I wouldn't hold my breath for a new raid, given how many times IH was delayed and how long it took to come out, plus all the people from Massive being assigned to other games.

hardy shell
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so we'll run dry of content?

hoary ridge
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thats why they need to make it harder

tawdry widget
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People were beating the raid on the same or next day.

smoky tapir
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well it wasn't "massive" that designed the raid either, it was a france group

hardy shell
smoky tapir
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hard content of raids will never happen

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people whine enough as it was about current content

tawdry widget
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Harder isn't the answer. More diversity is.

hardy shell
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the only way they'll make it hard is by adding bugs

hoary ridge
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well just mix IH and DH boom

smoky tapir
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games will never have hard content again, gamers cry to much about difficulty

hoary ridge
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every boss is a dps checkk and hard mechaaanics

meager tundra
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Hi is there any group i can join i just started so it would be my first ever raid

hardy shell
hoary ridge
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DH is a dps check raid

tawdry widget
hoary ridge
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IH is game mechanics

hardy shell
hoary ridge
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just fuse them together

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@meager tundra if ur low level and ur build is not rdy for raid i would tell the group

hardy shell
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i tried a status build once

tawdry widget
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We still don't have both Tidal Basin and Zoo Legendary, those sound like obvious steps but are nowhere to be seen.

hardy shell
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6 yellow cores,firestarter and airburst

hoary ridge
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airburts seeker mined?

hardy shell
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yup

hoary ridge
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more cc then staatus

meager tundra
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@hoary ridge i am lvl 40 but my build is not the best

hoary ridge
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@meager tundra then tell ur group if u find one

meager tundra
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Ok

hardy shell
hoary ridge
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airburst is more cc

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status is like fire foam blind and disorent

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cc explosives so any skill that explodes\

hardy shell
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cc?

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whats cc?

hoary ridge
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crowd control

hardy shell
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oh

hoary ridge
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eh dont listen to me im going crazy i thin

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think

hardy shell
hoary ridge
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ur support not dps

hardy shell
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what'effect,skill...' to be exact

hoary ridge
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ur not gonna be doing any dmg

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if u wonna solo

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then go with hard wire seeker mined and motor

hardy shell
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unless youre using a reviver

hoary ridge
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seeker mined spam

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spam ur seeker mined

hardy shell
hoary ridge
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yep

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very effective

hardy shell
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what build are you using?

meager tundra
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How do i get ivory keys

hardy shell
meager tundra
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Ok

smoky tapir
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wrong channel, please use #lfg-raid-ps4

tender hollow
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@hardy shell is 70% off now during the Black Friday sales. Roughly $10 USD.

tender hollow
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How often does Morozova launch her rockets, and you have to stagger her? Every 60 seconds, or every 45 seconds??

muted kettle
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Around 45 i think

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I'm not 100% on the timing but i feel like it's around that

tender hollow
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@muted kettle thank you

tawdry widget
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@tender hollow you can probably check on someone's POV of a raid run on Youtube.

tender hollow
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its about 26 seconds. gunna see if I can get my sticky cooldown to that. this guy on twitch, all he did was sticky her, did even use ravenous

tawdry widget
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There may be differences between phases, too. Not sure if you checked that.

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The time window to cancel her, at least, does get shorter with time.

tender hollow
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yeah its near the end on this other stream

tawdry widget
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Why the sticky, though? To keep her at the door?

tender hollow
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yes to both keep aggro and stagger

tawdry widget
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On second and third phases or also on fourth?

tender hollow
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2nd and 3rd. but 26 sec between staggers on 4th on this other stream

tawdry widget
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And on fourth, she would be canceled by the healer?

tender hollow
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yes some other dude. they just went with 1 tank

tawdry widget
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I'm thinking it's not worth it with the sticky, if it's just for second and third, those are somewhat mellow phases, it's the first 1 to 2 staggers on fourth when everything can go wrong. And on that phase it would be someone else doing it, so not being able to keep her at the door.

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But to each their own, I guess 🙂

tender hollow
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yeah if there is only 1 tank dont bother, if 2 tanks I kinda like cause you can cheese it easy if your stagger tank

tawdry widget
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Two tanks will also lead to lose one DPS, which IMHO isn't really worth it either. If I was at that crosspath I'd just go with 1 tank, 2 healers. At least the second healer has something to do. The second tank spends three phases looking at nothing, basically. Ideally, it would be 1 tank, 1 healer and the healer cancels her on the last phase.

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Since the train starts to get destroyed from the left to the right, it's easier to just keep the hive on the right side and do your best to cancel her for those 1 to 2 staggers on the last phase. Until the train starts getting destroyed.

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It does take some practice though, I haven't been raiding on LFG, so not sure on what are the standard practices there for the fight to go smoothly.

tender hollow
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Interesting. Most pugs run with 2 tanks 1 healer. But 1 tank 2 healers seems a lot better for many reasons.

tawdry widget
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Yeah. Just one healer on each side. Then the healer on the left can cancel her on the last phase.

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No need for a tank with shock resistance and so on.

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But again, this is just my take on it. If it works in LFG, that's good, I guess. I can imagine sometimes the raids there can take a while so taking a "standard" approach everyone knows about and trusts may be the best option.

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Otherwise, as I said, one tank, one healer also works without much issue if the healer has some experience doing it alone. Probably the hardest part is to memorize everyone's position. So you can instantly shoot the chem launcher at that direction when needed.

hoary ridge
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How tf is tank suppose to stagger the boss and do the keys

tawdry widget
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That's not what I meant, with only 1 tank and 1 healer, on fourth phase tank does keys, healer staggers and heals.

hoary ridge
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why not throw ur hive at left and u hal with chem on right and the other two tanks run tardigrade and vanguard

uncut crypt
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cause thats the usual norm of doing it, now the discussions are trying to create a different method to experiment, otherwise it gets somewhat boring

humble solar
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3 non dps roles take a bit of dmg away

crimson vale
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Well tbh to stagger Morozowa in 4th phase can be anybody. Just have someone with ravenous on each side. Lets say doc on left and dps on right. This way whereever she go can be canceled.

warm ibex
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LFG always 2 Tanks 1 Healer. Most groups cant do anything other than done before! Keep things simple.
Personally with fix group you can easily run with 1 tank 1 healer!

tender hollow
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hi i have never done a raid before, do i get good gear from it?

vagrant wing
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If you're after good rolls - either farm the summit or target loot areas. Most ppl do the raids for the unique exotics/gearsets and for fun

tawdry widget
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@tender hollow as it stands, since it doesn't have any target loot allocation, for gear alone it's probably the worse place to get gear from.

tender hollow
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oh

copper carbon
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@tawdry widget unless for looking for the unique gear sets

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Which are locked behind raid. Irin horse has two i think

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Iron horse has two i think

tawdry widget
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Of course, but that's the unique stuff: Future Initiative and Foundry Bulwark chests and backpack, Ravenous and Regulus.

elder mauve
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any room in a raid?

warm wren
ionic palm
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any room in raid?

warm wren
past coyote
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What it the best gun to use in razor back week points

vagrant wing
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STG 😆

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Kidding - the best combo would be Ravenous and high dmg weapon (i.e. classic M1A/certain pistols etc).
If you don't have the Ravenous either classic M1A or sustain AR should work

vagrant wing
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Punch drunk mask is a bad idea honestly. You better use a DH BP/Chest if you're not using striker. Better invest into CHD than HSD when you're talking about razorback

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And i know it says "deal HSD anywhere you hit" i just don't think rzr has a "head"

glossy blaze
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didnt know rzb has a head

warm ibex
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no rzb has no head but hsd with revenous works pretty well!

uncut crypt
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I use striker with negev. Eats the weak points alive

cunning night
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Yeah, ravenous and classic m1a will allow you to solo a weakpoint.

ivory venture
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Anyone know how to do the boss 3 cog on iron horse without anyone checking it?

cunning night
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You can check how many rotations you need before you start the fight and memorize them or just alternate between them till you you hear them locked in place.

crisp merlin
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I keep seeing a lot of striker build for raid can someone explain/post build? On paper it seems weak as hell

vagrant wing
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It's only for very spesific parts (rzb or the train on IH) if you see them somewhere else a solid DPS build can do the job just fine or even better

crisp merlin
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Ok I see. But for the build, is it suggested to use the striker bp with focused chest? Or another combination?

vagrant wing
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What for? Rzb or the train?

crisp merlin
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Didn’t know there’s 2 builds. Both i suppose

vagrant wing
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For the train you want a perfect focus chest and a vigilance BP

For rzb you want the exo holster and DH vigilance BP or as someone said here the Punchdrunk even tho i think it's not as good

versed brook
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does the foundry project gear in the raid drop from bosses?

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or is it just the ches?t

muted kettle
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@versed brook bosses and chest

kindred moss
tender hollow
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Whats the best way to use Ravenous on RB? Someone posted shoot left shoulder 5 times then once right shoulder, then your other high damage gun??

humble solar
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Yes

tender hollow
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@humble solar Thanks Mate.

tender hollow
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is it possible for me to do the first raid at shd 50?

humble solar
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@tender hollow yes, watch level doesnt mean a whole lot as long as you can play smart/competent

tender hollow
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ok

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i mean my max dps is 1.4mil to 2.4mil

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that might not be enough

humble solar
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Per bullet? Body shot? Head shot? Kind of gun? Numbers are great and all but theres more to a build than what you can hit

tender hollow
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per bullet is about 283k to 500k

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for a smg

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vector

humble solar
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Wouldnt really recommend an smg for the raid. Majority of people use either ARs, rifles, and sometimes lmgs.

tender hollow
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i mean my ar does about 380k to 600k

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that's a rough estimate

humble solar
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Should take this over to #td2-build-advice now lol but plenty of people can help out there. Just use a normal 3pc providence, coyotes mask, fox prayers, and contractors gloves. With 45+chc and at least 140chd and should be fine

tender hollow
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chc

humble solar
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Crit hit chance and chd is crit hit damage

tender hollow
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ok

ivory venture
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Hi! I’m using a build with 99.9% Hazard protection in IH boss 3 and I notice I’m immunity of shock, fire but not of the gas. Is that correct or is it a bug?

crisp merlin
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You might need 100% to be immune to gas

flint iris
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You shouldn’t need 100

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The most you need to be fully immune to all statuses is 98, with disrupt being the highest threshold to reach

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Weird you’re not immune to confuse

tawdry widget
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@ivory venture to be immune to fire/burn you need 91%, to electricity/shock 84% and for gas/disorient 93%. I use a hazard/dps with those values and it works.

ivory venture
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@flint iris , @tawdry widget yeap, I saw this numbers before. That is why I'm asking. I notice that only happens with gas

high dagger
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For me when tank in boss 3 I use 511 with hazard health and opportunistic. Still need a good healer though.

languid relic
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I’m looking for a raid group or anyone to help me get the EB

tender hollow
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Shotgun Firewall Build for Iron Horse Boss 1
https://ibb.co/StnVXGC
+10 (from Firewall within 10m) +6 for the boss in front of special shield + 10 Opportunistic damage = +26 damage for the group
It seems quite good in the LFG PUG groups I've tried it in. Can be improved too.

vagrant wing
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Why the chainkiller & the Exo holster?

tender hollow
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^ yeah it can be improved. I'm out of loadouts.

lament dragon
tender hollow
crisp merlin
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@tender hollow those talents are multiplicative so its more like 28 instead

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Are specialization passives raid-wide or only sub group-wide?

late hazel
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Raid wide

verbal mist
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You sure about that ? I’m almost certain they are group wide not raid wide .

warm ibex
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I got some question: was there a time when you need 4 keys to open the box after razorback? I thougt it always was 5 since beginning

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Because i had a discussion right now

verbal mist
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It’s always been 5

warm ibex
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@verbal mist thx, same as i remember. But i was called noob when i was saying that

humble solar
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Xbow and gunner are raid wide, the rest are subgroup wide. Pretty damn sure

amber blaze
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@warm ibex stop believing idiots then you will never doubt yourself

humble solar
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But im an idiot and i doubt myself, how does this work 🤔

amber blaze
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When you are at 10K SHD level all your doubts vanish 😄

humble solar
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Fuck 8.4k lvls to go.

warm ibex
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@amber blaze i mean i know i am a noob, but dont want people to know it too 😂

distant blaze
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Just a quick question I hope what kind of build should I make for ih ~ i favour lmg do love to use bullet King but I also love my backer dozen but I’m also open to try new things

tender hollow
distant blaze
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Thank you ninja I will definitely look at that 😊

distant blaze
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I have looked at the build and don’t get me wrong I like it but I’m more a survival kind I like high armour less damage I’m more a support player then anything

past coyote
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Then what about a healer @distant blaze you use that for every boss in ion horse and you will pretty much never go down if you heal your self and Luther players

tawdry widget
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@distant blaze the raid is a team effort, if you're high armour, less damage, then you're just dragging the other 7, making them over compensate for the damage you're not doing.

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there are other roles you can do in the raid, like a healer or a tank, but doing those takes practice, leadership and knowing what to do. it's very unlikely that you'll start doing the raid in either role, so a DPS build, like the one above, is the way to go. then, when you have either a fixed team or just plain more experience, you can move to tank or healer.

cunning night
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^^ This is sound advice

distant blaze
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I use to run the odh a lot but I stopped playing it for certain reason witch I won’t say “not glitches” so I know the roles their just needed to get back into them and for ih I was always healer and tank where I needed to be dps we would always fail if I was not tank or healer “not saying I’m god of tank or healer” but I want to get back into the raids again and find a good team that likes to run it here and their

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And just want a team that understand and teaches me what to do nowadays I understand it’s hard I really do but once I get the hang of what I need to do you don’t have to worry about me doing my part

tawdry widget
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in that case 👍 hope you find a team

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we don't know each other, so I'm just going from what you're writing here, but I'm feeling like this is a case of "get good". try to get better in DPS roles. it's not that hard and easier for you to find a team that needs a DPS to fill an empty spot than a team that needs either a tank or a healer. another way of looking at this, it's easier if you adapt to 7 other players than 7 other players adapting to you.

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either way, this is not the place to find a group, that's for lfg channels.

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this is more to discuss related stuff to the raids.

distant blaze
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I never thought of it that way but thank you for telling me that I will definitely adapt to the build and team more then them adapt to me but again thank you very much and I hope you have a great day 😊😊

verbal mist
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Not being toxic but ditch the bk. Only one spot in ih you use bk and it produces no dmg. If your dead set on lmg go infantry mg5 with fast hands . Personally I would go ar and m1A

humble solar
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Use the infantry mg5 if you need some extra chc aince it has an extra mod. Use a normal mg5 if youre good on chc since it has a higher base dmg. Imo

spice lichen
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How long do the raids take?

bitter marsh
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30 mins to 9 hours - depends on the group

past coyote
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Can some people dm me there speed run ionhorse build pleas

warm ibex
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@past coyote which one are you looking for? There are several different for each boss

fresh harness
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Say I've already done IH for the week, can I still get the regulus parts from the bosses?

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Also, I'm kinda fed up with the standard rifle dps. Is there any other dps build that is good?

flint iris
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No

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Regulus must be a fresh run of the week

fresh harness
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Aight, thanks. Thankfully reset is soon

sudden kiln
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lfg

humble solar
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Regulus is first raid of the week, per character. If you aint ran no raid this week on another char, you can get reg parts

warm wren
iron falcon
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Does IH and DH both drop a lot of named items upon the final boss completion?

flint iris
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I think one is guarenteed

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At least one

tender hollow
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CostaPLS normal dark hours raid, add me! searching for a 4 man group

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we are searching for 2 guys in dark hours raid, any role, any build CostaPLS add me!

warm wren
high dagger
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For regulus if u start with cp boss4 and Finnish. Then second run u start at boss 1 u still got ur regulus part. As long it's 1st boss kill.

waxen heart
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lfg need eagle or ravenous either raid will do fs2MeyersRET in game now

smoky tapir
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wrong channel, use the lfg raid channel

tepid lark
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lfg ps4

flint iris
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Wrong channel, use the lfg raid channel

tender hollow
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Is the dark hour raid is giving u the eagle beerer or there is only 10% to get?

crisp merlin
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Yes

uncut crypt
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@tender hollow yeap, if people work hard in the raid, i'll drop for them

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what time does raid reset and is there maintenance today?

vagrant wing
uneven garden
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Well no maintenance today?

uncut crypt
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nein

kindred moss
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Hello guys, i got a question for you fellow ih raiders and speedrunners. I have quite a number of raid clears under my belt and i know every single mechanic on each step, however there's a single bit of information i am missing and i know there must be a way to avoid it. On step 3, Boss Williams, sometimes you get that 4th random diagnostic to do. I guess it's a way to slow down the group if they are too fast in doing things, but since i've seen very fast speedrun clears on williams i guess someone have figured out what to do to ensure you don't get the 4th diagnostic to do. Anyone have infos to share?

fluid pier
kindred moss
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well, if it's fire even if i'm 100% fire resistance how am i supposed to survive while looking at the screen for valves pressure? Also i believe that when 4th diagnostic triggers the valves screen is black, not sure about that though

glossy blaze
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Ur healer has to heal u

fluid pier
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The 4th, 5th , 6th, etc. diagnostic phases will always go off. It’ll keep going endlessly if you want to just keep doing diagnostics. The valves screen (I’m assuming you mean the one for the letters?) isn’t triggered by the diagnostics, it comes up once the lavas are all broken.

glossy blaze
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Once the letters are done, the fire diagnostic will stop

fluid pier
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^^^

glossy blaze
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So it's best to get your healer to keep a look out for ur health up there and try to finish the letters ASAP to stop the fire

kindred moss
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Thank you guys

midnight sorrel
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hello, anyone can invite to the raid XD, i want the new pistol.
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smoky tapir
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wrong channel, use the lfg channel

weary niche
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@kindred moss what a lot prople do is have one person with tp tank with enough hzd protection, so you can be still up there if it's fire, and after you have done the letters fire will go away

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That's how we did speedruns

vagrant wing
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You're missing quite a bit of DPS with this method tho (not criticizing just saying 🙂 )

smoky tapir
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not really, most groups ive run with always run 1 tank in general (having either vanguard or tardi for the group plus having the tank up top helps prevent 1 shots from the snipers

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and random groups usually do the 4th diagnosic if its fire since its "usually quick" and the extra time is nice

vagrant wing
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he was asking about speed running. In this context it is actually matter

weary niche
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We did 5:40 like that third boss, but below 5:20 was possible and then we didn't use exclipe Backbacks either

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So right now with all right builds close to 5min for sure with TP tank

vagrant wing
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I believe you. I still think that the more dps is better. But whatever works i guess

weary niche
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I usually would agree for sure, but just the other thing would be that you need to do that fire phase so then it would mean reset

vagrant wing
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not really. If the healer is actually doing his job - you're fine

kindred moss
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@weary niche Care to explain better how you build to speedrun that step? You mentioned eclipse backpack so I guess you have that on the dps guys and you inflict statuses to mobs to increase damage? Is that the strategy? We are trying to learn how to speedrun the whole raid but it’s hard to learn by just looking at videos with no explanation on how things are done 🙂

tawdry widget
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@kindred moss "I guess it's a way to slow down the group if they are too fast in doing things" not sure if it was clear with the replies before. It's not "a way to slot down the group", it's random. Just as the order of phases are random. So sometimes you're going to get fire as the 4th, phase, sometimes you won't.

smoky tapir
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its a 50/50 roll since the phase cannot repeat the same as the last

tawdry widget
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Eclipse backpack can be used by the DPS/Hazard player that goes up to do the consoles. If the team composition is something like 1x Healer, 6x DPS, 1x DPS/Hazard. Then that DPS/Hazard can use a riot foam chem launcher (overcharged) when the boss steps out of the last turret. If everything goes to plan the whole team can kill him with that one riot foam charge. That's where the Eclipse backpack makes sense, for that DPS/Hazard, the boss will be on status effects so that's 30% amplified damage for that build that will be missing 1 attribute on all pieces (since they'll be rolled to hazard protection).

kindred moss
tawdry widget
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With that said, it's not mandatory to use that Eclipse backpack. There are other ways to do that DPS/Hazard. The easiest is 3x Eclipse, 2x Ceska, 1x Fox. But you lose some DPS potential by not having gear brands bonus and attributes. A higher DPS, given the constraints, can be 2x Ceska, 1x Yaahl, 1x Sombra, 1x Contractor's, 1x Fox. The chest can have Obliterate, the backpack Vigilance. Hazard protection on all pieces, 1x Burn resistance, 1x Disorient resistance mods. That should reach the three immune thresholds for Burn (91%), Disorient (93%) and Shock (84%). The other attributes on the pieces should be CHC/CHD.

honest wren
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i mostly just have a question dealing with raids - i've never done raids before with both div1 and div2 - how long does a raid usually take to do/complete?

glossy blaze
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About 20 mins to an hour

warm wren
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If you have a good team? 45 minutes if everything goes right. With a bad team? 2 hours or even longer.

honest wren
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oof - i see why now people dont like matchmaking when it comes to raids

warm wren
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The matchmaking for raids is for the discovery mode, which doesnt give you any of the raid exclusives.

honest wren
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i was mainly worried about never having the time to do raids because i was led to believe they take a very long time to complete and i dont usually have a mic on because family background noise

warm wren
honest wren
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i also have it on ps4 but i bought the game first on xb1 and had it longer - whenever i have the time or when im alone long enough i'll try to join a raid

crisp merlin
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Just tell your group you have mic muted so they can carry you

weary niche
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@kindred moss exclipe Backbacks gives you 35% amplified damage, we usually had status effect in the whole raid, so if you do status effect on boss the dps will melt the boss instantly pretty much and like i said we had TP build up there, we didn't lose a lot damage because we fot the TP buff, what was 12 multiplicative damage in too

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@kindred moss i actually have some boss explainations if you want them, example how to do the first raid npc part in like 1.01, minutes Second boss below 3.10 etc. We ran full speedrun discord like 2 months ago till we all left division

glossy blaze
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It's up you on what you wanna run for hzp build on 3rd boss, as long as you have enough hzp to go up the rope earlier, it should be fine. Building on dps for hzp build can be explored later depending on which setup is more comfortable for you.

weary niche
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I just really see the point trying a dps there with hzd, the damage will be bad anyways, but you have a point there yeah, you will need to go up instantly after phases too, so you can win seconds every phase and not miss the fire phase skip

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Plus up goes always 2 or even 3 people, so when pressure or whatever comes you will get them done in like 5 seconds, usually teams problem is that pressure phase takes them like 30 seconds

glossy blaze
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It's not that bad tbh, with focus talent and m1a, u would be hitting around 1.8mil to 2.4mil++ with a hzp build, and from my experience it does make a difference in dps when you're aiming to get a consistent sub 5min on 3rd boss

weary niche
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Don't forget abusing focus is really different with pc and ps4 😅

glossy blaze
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yeah, thats the main difference there. Therefore, just run whatever is comfortable with your group setup first and expand from there

weary niche
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That true, focus is best talent there for sure tho

glossy blaze
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min-maxing only comes in when the team is comfortable with the strats and able to pull it off consistently

weary niche
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What's pc fastest time atm?

glossy blaze
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21:23 if you exclude the cheater

weary niche
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Really, ps4 is 22 exactly

glossy blaze
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yeah by the jpn team

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they're really good

weary niche
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They are beasts yeah

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Of course overwatch exploit tho on morozova so

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So a lot speedrunners use exploits

glossy blaze
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I guess it depends how people wanna view it

weary niche
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Of course that gate thing at the beginning ia exploit at the same way so yeah, 99% speedrunners are using exploit 😅

glossy blaze
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to me, its just a way around a mechanic

weary niche
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If you are abusing a system to bypass something, it's an exploit

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But Japanese team is really awesome tho, they are for sure best ps4 team out there after bot clan left

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Sadly almost all main people have left, i mean the speedrun people on ps4

glossy blaze
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yeah the jpn people arent that active as well

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thats what i last heard

weary niche
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I played every day pretty much just speedrunned, but haven't played 2 months anymore, just don't have that thing in me anymore

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Kinda sad

glossy blaze
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you can always do LFG for the LuLs

weary niche
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Nahh 😅 i like helping so i help people with speedrun run tactics

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I am happy that a lot speedrunners on ps4 started using my exclipe stuff in beginning of the raid tho, atleast i helped some people 😊

glossy blaze
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Yeah as long as they are willing to listen, its fine

uncut crypt
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and no toxicity

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or passive aggression

sage grail
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What's the criteria for IH in terms of gear. What do you need to be useful

oblique atlas
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Anyone doing a raid? Not done iron horse but done airport many times flawless and did it on the first week it landed thanks

warm wren
dusky bolt
uncut crypt
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Lol, @dusky bolt

The discussion was about attitude during raids.
Me calling out this "person" of glitching/exploit levels is another context/discussion.
Sure i accused of exploit, doubtful i am the only one among all others in here that has the same idea or not.
Regardless during raids, i kept myself on neutral level, i dont bring petty prejudice into it to ruin the Raid runs, be it with others or not, as it is unethical.

dusky bolt
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This IS about what you said during raids.

uncut crypt
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Again, no relation between me being passive aggressive during a raid and calling out someone that exploited shd levels

dusky bolt
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You were being passive aggressive and salty about someone having a higher shd level than yourself

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so you proceeded to accuse, without evidence.

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if this isnt being passive aggressive, please educate everyone

uncut crypt
dusky bolt
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Nice deflection on the primary topic of being passive aggressive in raids.

uncut crypt
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bruh please.

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Dont be a white knight

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This whole conversation was irrelevant to begin with

dusky bolt
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What does calling you out on your passive aggressive behavior during raids have to do with being a white knight?

spice girder
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Alright children, knock it off

uncut crypt
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Tell that to that boy, trying to prove a point

spice girder
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I'm telling it to both of you

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Stop

uncut crypt
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I'm done already

dusky bolt
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You should look in the mirror before you start calling the kettle black.

uncut crypt
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Lol, boy please, you are irrelevant of my attention, i'm done.

dusky bolt
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"I'm done already" <- lol

spice girder
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Both of you, stop it now

sage grail
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is the future initiative chest piece exclusive to the raid?

smoky tapir
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yes, FI and FB chest and back are IH exclusive

tender hollow
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the chest after the DH raid is available only once a week?

smoky tapir
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no, you can open it as many times as you want as long as you have 5 keys, 4 keys (the cache ones) are one time a week. a key is also given when killing the last boss and is repeatable

vagrant wing
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to clarify

a key is also given when killing the last boss
every time you kill her @tender hollow . You can kill her again 5 times and you'll get 5 additional keys

glossy blaze
normal mirage
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yes with very sensitive spots in the front and the back.

restive herald
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😆

uneven garden
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Lol related I have tried to stagger morozova in the ass but apparently it’s different than the chunga ij razorback

vagrant wing
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Ooops. I thought we were talking about morozova 😀

thorn shale
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hey there! is it any way to increase chance for eagle bearer?

uneven garden
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Keeping running!

thorn shale
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that's all. easy...

smoky tapir
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nope, 1% off boss kills (first kill only) and 10% from the chest

thorn shale
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thank's for advice

smoky tapir
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best bet is to ask in the raid group that if someone gets it and doesn't need it if they can give it to you.

thorn shale
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yep. great advice. seems i have to play just with pro gamers...😁

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I will keep try...

uneven garden
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find stellar...RXL can do it in under 20 mins i believe

thorn shale
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BigEasy4088 is your msg intended to me?

uneven garden
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Yeah pro group they are

thorn shale
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what's his name?

uneven garden
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he is here lol... stellar

thorn shale
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I will try finding him. thank's a lot!

uneven garden
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very pro they can finish IH much faster than most ppl do for DH

thorn shale
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doesn't matter, I also finish it but no drop at the end.

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just need someone who can leave the eagle for me.

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😁 😁 this guy, stellar...is on level 1...😁 😁

crisp merlin
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Stellar is like rank 1 😍

trim cedar
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I dont really have a good build I believe if I do a raid, can I have a few tips if I ever join one

crisp merlin
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All red cores and red attribute. Crit chance and Crit dmg preferably. You may have one or two armor regen lines. Any dps bp talent and chest talent. Any gun you like.

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Any combination of brands that give gun dmg or crit

hazy dawn
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Personal preference but I like CriT build.
3 piece Providence
1 piece Grupo
1 piece Cheska
Fox knee pads

All red with CHC and CHD and mods on CHD

umbral mango
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Any1 for operation ironhorse @ 8:30 PM gmt+1

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Oh theres a seperate tab i see sry

nova dew
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anyone can invite me for iron horse raid

muted horizon
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Stick to the #lfg-raid-pc for searching for matches pls. @nova dew

shell valley
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Does anyone mind teaching me the iron horse raid on Xbox? I have plenty of builds and I listen well

flint iris
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Try the actual lfg section for Xbox

plush juniper
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вотн кывго 7

hardy shell
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Sooo I just got to lvl 40 for a week.When should I start taking a raid?

tribal mountain
crisp merlin
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@hardy shell whenever you’re ready I guess

hardy shell
crisp merlin
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Whenever you have the time and find a group willing to run with you

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Lvl 40 is the only requirement

tender hollow
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@crisp merlin still need any players?

crisp merlin
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Yep always looking for players but I’m on pc 😢

tender hollow
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Isn't it cross play compatible?

crisp merlin
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I beleive it’s only compatible with Stadia

tender hollow
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Ah, gotcha. I wasn't sure

crisp merlin
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And just found out they don’t plan for ps and Xbox cross play in the future

tender hollow
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Awwwe man! That's a bummer

uneven garden
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Raid related question, has anyone experienced Xbox party issues lately, like spotty, disconnect, can’t hear/talk etc...

wary compass
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Can anyone tell me what all the abreviations in the lfg-raid-pc channel mean?

vagrant wing
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LFG == looking for a group.
exp == experience
DH == operation dark hours
IH == operation iron horse
EB == eagle bearer
@wary compass if i missed something lmk

wary compass
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thank you!

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yeah RV?

vagrant wing
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RV == raid voice

wary compass
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ooooh! so that's for the channel. Right ok. Thanks much!

vagrant wing
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np

normal mirage
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LF1M == looking for 1 more

wary compass
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yeah that one i understood 😄 .... and what does Fresh mean?

normal mirage
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Not stale

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I'm kidding it means it's a brand new run

wary compass
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you seriously confused me there for a second 😄

dusky bolt
random temple
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how is the raid boss chest works? can we open it every run as long as we have keys? or is it a weekly thing?

warm wren
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As long as you have keys, you can open the chest. You only get keys from the boxes along the way once a week, however. The only farmable key is the last key, from the boss.

uncut crypt
versed violet
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hey guys...i dont have experience in Raid...i never do one...i m new...anyone can help do the first raid?

warm wren
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This channel is for discussing strategys and builds pertaining to the raid, not for LFGing to find one. Look in #lfg-raid-pc and see if any are going on, and hop into the raid voice. Be willing to learn, and get your build evaluated, @versed violet

honest wren
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for DH and IH what are good builds to use for both? i rather have some builds prepared before I even attempt to try a raid

brave monolith
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Could anyone help me get the eagle bearers from DH ?? I’m watch level 111 right now.

tender hollow
flint iris
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Nah you wannna go straight red if you haven’t done it before

vagrant wing
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3 reds 3 blues - that's how teams fail. It's a teamwork overall - your own survivability doesn't matter, better commit to one role before trying to do everything

tender hollow
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Thanks for the tip.

humble solar
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They cant kill you, if you kill them first

tender hollow
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lol, very true

warm ibex
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Best build for first time both raids is all red crit build with m1a and maybe ar! So 3x providence, foxprayer and contractors + ceska or groupo. Dont run bullet king or chameleon 💪

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Talents: Obliterate, Focus, (maybe glascannon but not for the first run) and vigilance on backpack

tender hollow
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I figured BD still hits like a truck. Time to go through the stash, lol.

tender hollow
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Only thing I don't have is a decent bag with Vig. >_<

tawdry island
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You can also use composure if you don't have a vigilance bp

honest wren
sleek wind
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Anyone doing raids at all

mellow girder
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anyone doing IH

crisp merlin
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How come there isn’t a pinned message for a beginners raid build yet? div2question

muted horizon
formal shuttle
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@sleek wind @mellow girder you gotta use the lfg-raid channels for that

cerulean sky
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Does green "Gear Set" things good for Raid or meh?

tender hollow
uncut crypt
formal shuttle
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striker eats buddy and lucy too

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but there's not really anywhere else it excels more than the generic crit AR/rifle DPS

fossil mist
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is the eb being a bitch to drop for anyone else i ran dh 8 times with my 4 characters and nothing is dropping

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and no one in my clan got it dropped either

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i run 20+ runs of raids a week and no eb or rav has dropped this week

vagrant wing
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Lets do the math shall we?
20+ runs - lets say 24 runs.
4 chars so 4 runs with 5 keys
24-4 = 20.
Now you get 5 keys each 5 runs (only 1 key from rzr) so 20/5 = 4. Basically you open the chest ~8 times a week with a 10% ish drop rate (i got mine after 70 chests so...)

fossil mist
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ive ran this raid 100+ times and i usually get 1 every week and i run less raids

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and also run this raid with the same 6 people and 1 person that needs the eb and get one almost every week i think its just being a bitch to drop it hasnt dropped for my raid community either

vagrant wing
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I understand you got one in the past? What the complain about than? 🙂

fossil mist
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im not complaining im just wondering if other people are having the same issues with the eb not dropping

vagrant wing
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Well since there wasn't any maintenance last week i found it hard to believe aomething changed. Its juat RNG at it finest that's all

fossil mist
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yeah i have a community of 92 people and it hasnt dropped i just think it isnt dropping the servers are being weird lol boomer has been teleporting into the walls and going after people without the eye i think its just the game buggin

tender geyser
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Anyone up for raid

fossil mist
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@tender geyser look in the #lfg-raid-pc not here

weary niche
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@fossil mist that boomer getting stuck started happening after some patch yeah, it's part of the new content

fossil mist
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lol same with fieser chillin in the control room on ih

weary niche
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I think it started after NY hit

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Raids are broken mess, how many times first boss of IH haven't jumped down for you guys?

fossil mist
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i think twice but like 5 times he has fell into the train

weary niche
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Yeah, after every so called update, the game stability goes so much worse atleast on ps

fossil mist
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yeah

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my friends game keeps blue screening

weary niche
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That's usual thing there

fossil mist
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yeah but its like 5-6 times a raid

weary niche
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Ohh i have seen that happen to some people, don't know the cause of it actually

fossil mist
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hes done everything including defraging his ps4 uninstalling and reinstalling and even got a new router

weary niche
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Nahh game issue not his

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I have seen it with like 4 different people and they all ghave good internet etc

stone smelt
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we have spots left for iron horse riad room 14

muted horizon
tender hollow
fossil mist
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yeah one of my friends just got the eb on his first ever run

tender geyser
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Lfg-raid-pc

uncut crypt
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@tender geyser wrong channel

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look in lfg-raid-pc

green sphinx
flat brook
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for ih it mutch better to run on sniper with tip off the spear, perfect headhunter and vigilence or 3 pice on ace and ace, perfect head hunter and 2 aeraldi pice

vagrant wing
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~~huh? No. I don't recommend it at all unless the group is semi-decent.

  1. most ppl aren't great at sniping to say the least (including me) - which means a lot of missing DPS
  2. 1 build isn't enough. You need 2 at the very least
  3. that build is only useful on certain part of the raid (mostly on boss 4 and the speedrunning bit before it) making that a sweeping declaration might confuse novice players~~
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oh that was a question 🙂
it depends on your playstyle @flat brook . Tips require you to switch between the Tac50 and your nemesis often but ofc you have a lot of Tac50 ammo (which make it easier to aim and hit) while with aces you stay mostly with the nemesis so aiming time, tracking targets etc...
Also the aces build does slightly more dmg (not that it matters but...)

last quarry
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whats lfg stand for?

tranquil flume
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looking for group ?

last quarry
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oh thanks

icy hull
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@fair cairn wrong channel, Please use the raid LFG channels.

calm field
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hi

tender hollow
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MmWdeDjEy7 raid

flint iris
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Ahh yes, MmWdeDjEy7 to you as well

normal mirage
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which is harder, IH or MmWdeDjEy7?

warm wren
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idk, IH needs some teamwork but MmWdeDjey7 has those giant healthpools so you gotta have a great build

verbal mist
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Lol

tender hollow
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yall wanna raid (PC) tomorrow ( peepz who i did raid with about a week ago)

warm wren
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@tender hollow Try over in #lfg-raid-pc , this channel is for discussing the raids & strategies, not for finding a group.

hardy shell
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If I join a raid with a level 30 player as the host,does the raid enemies health and damage capped at level 30?

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Like,the level 30 guy gets their stats scaled to be equal to me,but does the enemy scale too?

azure ruin
uncut crypt
tender hollow
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^ I was told that the level 30 person gets their damage scaled up to level 38, but their armor stays the same. No idea if this is true or not.

hardy shell
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No theoretically,I can join a level 30 group and crush every enemy with my level 40 damage since their armor is stuck at level 30

hardy shell
flint iris
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They all scale to the higher level in the raid

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Which is 40

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To prevent exactly what you’re tryna do

hardy shell
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I tried a raid once when I was still 515,a guy got his level 100 watch friend up and apparently we crushed the first half of the raid with 4 guys until the buffed guy left

flint iris
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You sure that’s on normal mode of the raid?

hardy shell
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Yes

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It said on the top corner level “Normal(Level 30)”

worldly palm
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I’m pretty sure yellow numbers are like seeker mines or anything explosive really

tawdry island
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As you can only see the damage (numbers) you do yourself i don´t know how a healer would do that...

cyan turret
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i am literally going to watch 3 hours of DH raids before i try to start a group

verbal mist
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i sticky bomb 3rd boss from upstairs but im cc guy

cyan turret
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so can you only do a raid once a week or...

tranquil minnow
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Anyone know where I could find a pc group for operation iron horse?

verbal mist
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@cyan turret you can raid everyday. but can only get 4 keys once a week. the final boss drops a key everytime

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unless you have multiple chars

smoky tapir
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and each boss has a special drop table for first kill and then a normal drop table for subsequent kills until next reset

verbal mist
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@tranquil minnow try lfg channels for pc

cyan turret
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damn that sucks

smoky tapir
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like FB/FI chest and Back can only drop on first kills of the boss

cyan turret
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so what is the drop rate of the EB from a boss

smoky tapir
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1%

verbal mist
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weird this week none of us got any fi or fb from first kill

smoky tapir
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1% from a boss (first kill per reset only), 10% from teh chest

verbal mist
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ive had over 300 clears of dh and never seen a eb drop from a boss

smoky tapir
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i got mine from weasel

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its where i got my frist

cyan turret
# smoky tapir 1%

i might get it from a boss cuz i got the BTSU data gloves from lincoln memorial on normal

smoky tapir
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EB can only be found in teh DH raid

cyan turret
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but my luck is good in this game

verbal mist
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yeah i got 4 chameleons yesterday

cyan turret
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the fist time i got a sweet dreams was on hard and it was a godroll

tawdry island
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@verbal mist Never seen an EB drop from a Boss as well in several hundred runs. Even the people i played with never got one from a boss. And that's many more chances than a few hundred...👍

crisp merlin
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The game hasn’t even been out for 300 weeks...

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It’s not even been 100 weeks petter

flint iris
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How does this relate lol

crisp merlin
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Oh someone said “on several hundred runs of DH they haven’t seen EB drop from a boss” which would be statistically as likely as winning the lottery

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Personally seen 2/20 EB and 1/10 Ravenous but that’s a small sample bias

flint iris
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That’s pretty possible tho, no?

crisp merlin
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Possible yeah. Super unlucky groups

hardy shell
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my watch is now level 137.should i start raid?

upper spruce
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ive anybody german i need help by the DH raid?

crisp merlin
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@hardy shell the only requirement is level 40

hardy shell
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i mean,i can,but should i?

vagrant wing
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up to you really

crisp merlin
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That’s up to you petter I don’t know what your goals are

tender hollow
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Feels good that I got the eb on my very first dark hours clear after struggling with noob groups 30+ fails and stole somebody’s ravenous right in there face lmao and got the regulus all this in less than a month meanwhile u mfs still chasing all 3 lmaoooo

warm wren
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Is it "gloat about weapons" time already? Didnt notice.

tender hollow
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Does Raveneous in Razorback only work for the weakpoint that you shoot, or does it "proc" on all weakpoints when you get it on one?

vagrant wing
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If you referring to the 'dmg to armor plating' buff - then yeah, if you get it from shooting anything (even the body of rzr itself) - you'll have it for everything you shoot. Note that the buff only lasts for about 5 sec

uneven garden
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if you proc left shoulder couple times (min 3 I guess) then switch to D50 with dodge city, 1 shot weak point

tender geyser
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Just a question...I bought season pass but I can't find the rigger outfit....where is it

mystic star
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any raid groups that dont mind new person to iron horse?

analog holly
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Need 2 for DH

tawdry widget
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@tender geyser it's not an instant reward for buying the season pass, you have to reach the reward level that gives it. If I recall correctly it's fairly close to the beginning of the reward track.

old ferry
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Any group wanna help me and 2 friends get eagle bearer?

verbal mist
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@old ferry you need to post in lfg channel

old ferry
verbal mist
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No worries

silk thicket
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Can anyone tell me where the weakpoint on buddy or lucy is?

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I have seen the yellow xhair icon thingy show

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but cannot purposefully recreate it

verbal mist
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🤔. I try to shoot in the eyeball if I can

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Not sure the weak point

silk thicket
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usually i shoot the headshot area too

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but ive seen weakpoint and im very curious as to where tf it is

verbal mist
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🤔 maybe feet ?

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I know the bt dogs get hurt easier in the legs

silk thicket
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I tried it

verbal mist
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You sure you weren’t hitting buddy’s seeker balls ?

silk thicket
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let me get u the video i took of me hitting it

verbal mist
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Achilles pulse we need you ! Lol

silk thicket
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U can see the yellow xhair showing i did hit a weakpoint of some sort

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ofc it had to be with a shotgun so i cant be too sure which pellet hit

verbal mist
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I see that

silk thicket
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ive been sitting in an empty raid for a hour trying to recreate that but cant

verbal mist
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Hmm 🤔. Not sure .

silk thicket
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Damn, well ty for the advice man

verbal mist
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No worries bro . Let me know if you find out please

silk thicket
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will do

hardy shell
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What does RV mean?

cyan timber
viscid fossil
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if i remember right its near the light of of each dog either above or below

vagrant wing
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looks like behind the legs https://ibb.co/G7jNSLb @silk thicket . I have a question tho, how did you change the point youre currently looking at from the white circle to the green cross?

silk thicket
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Some microsoft store app

brave lance
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did they change the mechanics in the IH raid last boss?

vagrant wing
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nope

sage grail
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Since ur crosshair isn't a real representation of the spread of the bullets it could still be that a pellet went wide and shot it In the face

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Happens some times but rarely

analog holly
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Anyone wanna run DH? Need 2 for fresh.

thick obsidian
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Ist noch jemanden aufgefallen, dass die Einschläge bei Morozova (rote Kreise) nun auch IM Tunnel einschlagen?
Gibt es hierzu Taktiken die der ein oder andere austauschen kann?
Gespielt wird Iron Horse auf Schwierigkeit Normal.

Has anyone noticed that the impacts at Morozova (red circles) now also hit the tunnel?
Are there any tactics that one or the other can exchange?
Iron Horse is played on Normal difficulty.

uncut crypt
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the middle part where u gather with 2 shields infront?

warm ibex
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@thick obsidian ja die schlagen immer schon dort ein wenn ein „Experte“ wieder mal vergessen hat nicht aus dem wasser zu schießen.

As i remember it was always like that when shooting morozova from the water

thick obsidian
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@uncut crypt yes
@warm ibex Ah ok. Wir haben irgendwie erst die Probleme seit letzter Woche.

vagrant wing
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It was always that way. The laws of physics in this encounter are interesting to say the least.
If you want to avoid that your team should enter the tunnel at the last possible moment (i.e. when you hear the sound of the rockets launching) make sure no ones standing near the tunnel until then @thick obsidian

wispy vault
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Are there any French speakers around here... Unfortunately most of my friends do not speak English 🤣🤣🤣

stiff oxide
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We have the same Problems.. evereyone stand in safezone, nobody in the water under the Tunnel, nobody shoot at morozova when she's immun,.. 4 or 5 mortars bombs in safezone,.. we're no Speedrun pro's but very Experienced in IH,.. no Chance to clear IH.

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Nothing from this is in the Patchnotes tomorrow 🤬

vagrant wing
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when you say "evereyone stand in safezone" what do you mean exactly? everyone is inside the tunnel but far from it's end? or everyone stand in the sandbags area until the last possible moment but when we enter the tunnel we get mortared nonetheless?

stiff oxide
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When we Are rdy for damage, red cartridge is Destroyed after Phase 2, everyone stand in the near from Sandbags but nobody under the tunnel

smoky tapir
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dont enter the safe area directly after morozova is pushed. any mortars that are "about" to fire will still get their shot off and delayed. This is moreso when people gather in front of it as that is what usually causes mortars to enter the tunnel

stiff oxide
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Sry for My English 😂

smoky tapir
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plus a lot of the time too, if you ARE getting a morter, have people back up, generally the GUN shots wont get to you right away, its more that its knocking people out of teh safe zone

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its also why 2 shield tanks generally get used

stiff oxide
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The problem is not the gun, not one mortar, we get 4 or 5 mortars at same time

smoky tapir
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well its impossilbe to get more then 4 as there are only 4 mortars, and usually they are slightly staggered in thier firing

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ive persoanlly never seen more then 1 hit the tunnel as long as people are not standing in there prior to the alarms

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the other way to prevent it is just kill off the mortar's each phase as well

vagrant wing
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i saw it yesterday actually (3 mortars on top of each other) for the first time. It is possible

vagrant wing
smoky tapir
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at the same time too, it IS possible to move around in the tunnel and not get hit by them, just have everyone step to the side

stiff oxide
vagrant wing
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depends where everyone stands initially

smoky tapir
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our group also started standing on the sides of the tunnel until the gun starts to fire as it would generally bump the mortar circles to the edges for any that would come in

stiff oxide
smoky tapir
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and i think last time i stood in a mortar, a single mortar cannot kill someone in a full red build (unless they are using GC)

stiff oxide
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A Single one can u dodge

vagrant wing
stiff oxide
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But me and 4 Other Clans has the same problems

vagrant wing
stiff oxide
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Mhm we test it

smoky tapir
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^ that, it should stop any center mortars

slate crypt
smoky tapir
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we tried the side strat as well and you "can" line up better since your pushed up against a wall

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but it does seem that gun sometimes says nope to shields and goes thru them anyway

vagrant wing
smoky tapir
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also, delay having ANYONE inside the tunnel well until after she is pushed

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you have until she enters that back door before the death rain happens and stheres even some time just after that

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ive been in many groups where people stand inside the tunnel while dpsing her down and it has caused mutliple mortar drops

slate crypt
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I've just started up my own clan after being in one of the top raid clans for a while once I get enough people I'll try that out and see if it's a better way to stand in the center.

stiff oxide
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So 1 time more. My Mates stand not inside the Tunnel, everyone stand Left and Right at the innerside from the sandbags. We have Played So since July or August,.. but with TU12 no Chance, i've Never seen so many mortars and Nobody stands too far back and everyone here say this is normal? 😅 is this only on Xbox?

smoky tapir
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ive personally not seen more then 1 hit (and usually its just someone being dumb anyway) and others have said they have seen it but not commonly

sage grail
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Someone explain to me why world record players using 4 piece negotiator. Does it rly hit that hard?

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On IH

warm ibex
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@sage grail im not sure if anybody in raid is using negotiator, i think some using tip of the spear for sniping on morozova but i cant see the use of negotiators in ih or dh

smoky tapir
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Bosses 1,3 and 4 have either a lot of really close adds or things you can shoot at that also transfers to your marks. Individually it has lower dps then other builds but when you are hitting 3-5 enemies, the damage scales up

sage grail
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@warm ibex the check the top 10 players on IH raid in terms of speed run. They go negotiator

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Some atleast I saw had it

warm ibex
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If you mean the 16mins time thats not legit. And i dont know who you mean but i havent seen negotiators on the vids of rxl. But thats just my view

sage grail
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How come it's not legit?

smoky tapir
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the leaderboard times in game have been bugged and glitched since they came out, dont go by them

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this applies to every leadboard, not just the raids

sage grail
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Is w&h back+perfect headhunter in a sense stronger than the gift + sacrifice/providence chest with rifle?

vagrant wing
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You do realize that the builds you saw aren't the builds they used in the raid right? it's whatever build they have on right now. Besides the ppl below #7 stream you can check their stream and see the builds

sage grail
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Not interested in streamers telling me what's good and not. I'm just wondering how hard it hits compared to something else.

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In all honesty

vagrant wing
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It's not. It's good for killing multiple distant adds. And just for the record these streamers won't talk to you or tell you what to do. They stream cause they enjoy it, not cause they think they're the best

sage grail
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No. I just don't watch streams. Only stream I have ever watched is Div2 stream for patch updates

vagrant wing
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Your choice. You asked about the builds and i answered. What you want to do with that info is totally up to you

verbal mist
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@stiff oxide happens to us as well . Not sure wtf is going on

loud gyro
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what does rv stand for in the lfg chat

smoky tapir
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raid voice channel (voice channels here in discord)

loud gyro
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thanks

jade leaf
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Recommendations for what build to bring as an inexperienced raider? I'm a long time player of Div 1 and 2 but just recently restarted playing again. Mostly a solo player and don't have many min maxed builds so looking for a place to start

tawdry island
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Solid DPS build (about 50 CHC; 150 CHD) is a good start

kindred moss
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@jade leaf on DH you need chc around 45-50% and push all the way up on CHD, i'd say 170-180% at least. 3 providence, fox prayer, 1 gs and a brand piece according to your primary weapon, either fenris for AR or contractors glove if you're going for an LMG, main weapon should be a boomerang m1a classic. You can go for the sacrifice on the chest if you can play around the added incoming damage or get obliterate or spotter with the technician laser pointer, both are good for damage and they don't have the glass cannon drawback. On IH you can go easier on damage as mobs are relatively less spongy but mechanics are way more complicated if you're a total newbie.

jade leaf
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New to Division raids but I have over 1k clears in Destiny and destiny 2 raids. Am a clan founder and leader of a raid focused clan so I should pick up mechanics quickly

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Which raid is more worth doing? Is one more relevant than the other in the current season/meta?

cunning night
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@jade leaf Well, Iron Horse is the newest one and has the better exotics/gear locked behind it at the moment. It is harder to learn over Dark Hours.

half scaffold
jade leaf
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Yes

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DSC, Garden, Crota's End and Wrath

half scaffold
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cause as long as you have a build in div 2 you should be fine

warm wren
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At this point its less about learning the encounters, and more of actually doing damage.

jade leaf
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How do you get crit damage so high? Playing around with the gear I have, I'm only hitting about 120 CHD with 60 CHC. I've even looked at using negotiators dilemma and coyotes mask that I had

warm wren
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Coyotes, brand bonuses, weapons, ect

half scaffold
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brand bonuses do bring dps higher

tender hollow
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and if you have 500 to 1000 SHD, you will have 10 CHC, 20 CHD from watch bonuses

jade leaf
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I'm at 268 but spec'd WD first

flint iris
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Wd is kinda a trap

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Chc and chd first will benefit you more

vagrant wing
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Mildly disagree. WD first as not all builds are dps builds. And you do want that 15% on non dps focus builds (plus wd over chd is better on average on certain dps builds). As for your question @jade leaf :
3 Providence = 15

  • 6x12 (gear attributes) = 72
  • 3x12 (mods) = 36
  • 17 (rifle minor attribute)
  • 2x5 (rifle attachments, sometimes it'll 3x5)
    = 150
  • whatever base crit dmg is (i forgot it's value)
    If you spec your watch towards it you'll get extra 20. If you include one more Grupo you'll get extra 15 as well
tender hollow
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@jade leaf I reckon get the 10 CHC on the watch next, as it just makes reaching ~50 (with Coyotes)/60 CHC easier

lament dragon
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@vagrant wing I think base critical dmg starts at 25%. Every weapon comes with that crit dmg by default.

vagrant wing
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right. i forgot thank you, i'll edit that

uncut crypt
warm ibex
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Yes shows on stats, if u scroll down you see it

fallow vale
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is iron horse hard? havnt done it before and i am tempted to do it

vagrant wing
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depends on the group

fallow vale
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are the mechanics hard to understand?

vagrant wing
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without any external guide? i'd say yes. If you or you team are familiar with it - it'll be easier

fallow vale
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so i should start with watching a guide on youtube?

vagrant wing
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as with any new subject in life - yeah. Better to learn it first

fallow vale
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alright thanks

crisp merlin
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My parents told me it’s faster to learn something if you just jump into it head first. That’s how I learned to swim

smoky tapir
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however, unlike that where your not affecting others, in the raid, your not knowing is affecting the game play of 7 others

uncut crypt
crisp merlin
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He is the best avenger

verbal mist
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true he is

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I am probably the biggest ironman fan.

mild girder
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Anyone know why RAzorback sometimes have shorter phases?

uncut crypt
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Cause people have stronk dps

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If stronk enough. You can do it in 4 rotations

mild girder
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no ive done short rotations for razorback

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with missed dps times

warm ibex
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Opening both sides same time maybe?

distant blaze
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So I’ve put a ih raid build together hopefully it’s good enough but I’m running a classic m1a what’s a good talent to put on it

vagrant wing
kindred moss
# fallow vale is iron horse hard? havnt done it before and i am tempted to do it

First boss can be burned down in seconds just by doing the higher dps your group can output, talent and specialization perks stacking, and hit him with opportunistic/status effects/tp debuff. He just dies. 2nd is easy once you learn what to do, a total pain if you go in without learning the actual encounter first. Third one is the hardest one among the two raids imho. Needs coordination, absolutely fast execution and also damage. If you ever hit a brickwall into this raid the third step will be the one. Last one is easy, much easier than Razorback on DH. You just need to know the wipe mechanics and do ads control. Nothing really complicated.

molten hearth
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is the EB worth it?

warm ibex
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@molten hearth short answer: NO

molten hearth
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why is that

vagrant wing
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Because of the 3rd attribute. If the 3rd attr isn't DTOOC and there're wpns with similar base dmg - it's not worth it

molten hearth
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what about ravenous

vagrant wing
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what about it? it has a unique talent which make it attractive. Although i would say - if your'e using the Ravenous on a DPS build as your main wpn - you should know that there're better alternatives for that. Also if i remember correctly the Ravenous does have DTOOC as a minor attr

molten hearth
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aight

verbal mist
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The eb is still a great weapon . It’s not the old eb but still works . The damage you can take still helps

mild girder
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@vagrant wing running with my clan it seems after breaking the back twice dpsing the front we are only given like 15s

vagrant wing
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I assume you don't do enough dps during that time window @mild girder ? I honestly never really tested/noticed the time windows. It might be a change after reaching half health or it might have been like this since long ago - you might want to test it with your regular team on all iterations (if you have the time and nerves 🙂 ):

  • only quarter health done (both front and back)
  • half dmg done from the front
  • half dmg done from the back
  • half dmg done front & back
mild girder
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we have definitely enough dps, maybe its because we break back twice in a row, we are gonna try switching to front then back.

vagrant wing
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If you do enough DPS during that 15 sec to take out another quarter, why do you care about the time then?

mild girder
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cause sometimes after activating the weak points we dont get enough time to attack the main hp, we only get like 5 seconds

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so instead of 4 phases we have to do it 6 times

vagrant wing
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I assume you don't do enough dps during that time window that's what i meant with that line 🙂
here's what i do know. When you take out half heath there'll be an 'extended' phase (rzr will take longer to close, and a 3rd or even 4th wave of drones will spawn) after this point, as far as i remember the times stays the same

fierce jungle
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make sure you aren't opening both front and back at the same time

smoky tapir
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talking Razorback. Razorback has soft locks on the amount it can take

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beofre it will autoclose regardless of how long its been open

vagrant wing
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also ^^

mild girder
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Yes I'm saying what we are doing is breaking back twice. And then when back goes to help dps the front we only get 5 seconds on the weakpoints

smoky tapir
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i haven't done RB ina while but i think i remember that his open phase is shorter the lower his health is

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and the open phase starts when the 4 circles are complete

mild girder
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No because when it's 25% it seems to be a normal window

smoky tapir
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so the longer it takes to break both front and back grates and grenade, teh shorter you get during weakpoint phase

drowsy ivy
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quick question, for a dedicated healer ,should i got 4 furture, 1 btsu 1 alp, or 2 future, 1btsu, 1 alp ,and 2 murakami ?

fierce jungle
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4 future, btsu, 1 alp

icy hull
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Run either 0 or 4 of gear sets, never 2 or 3pcs (you lose too many stats for that minor gain of 2/3 pcs.)

still crypt
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whe need 2 guys for a raid !!!

flint iris
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Use the lfg channels bud

north inlet
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Question about IH final boss fight, during the second and third phases the 4 smaller cannons seem to come back up after having destroyed them with the RPGs, is there a specific mechanic for keeping them down? Sometimes they come back up right after destroying just 1 of them.

flint iris
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You can shoot them with rockets but that would be wasting time on wipe mechanic, which is why people don’t shoot the cannons

north inlet
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But then you get shot by cannons during the cover phase

warm wren
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they wont target you if you dont go into the water

north inlet
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I see. Still don't understand whether it's a bug or just the way it's supposed to work. We just played it again and this time they weren't coming back up after getting destroyed

flint iris
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At the cover phase, you probably did something to the cause the cannons to shoot at you, I know going in too early could be one of the causes

tender hollow
# mild girder so instead of 4 phases we have to do it 6 times

Maybe you can try doing the side opposite to the emp person first since they have 4 dps, then the emp person's side, then the side opposite to the emp person, then the emp person's side. That way the emp person's side gets an extra phase to prep.

But honestly its not a big deal if its 4, 5 or 6 phases. as its just a couple of minutes more.

mild girder
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We found switching back to from my easier because front is a bit harder to dps (weak points at opposite sides)

tender hollow
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Is the EB drop chance 1% from bosses & 5% from the end chest?

smoky tapir
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10% from the chest, 1% from first kill on bosses

tender hollow
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thanks

vagrant wing
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  • less than 1% technically
smoky tapir
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its 1% per the data mine

vagrant wing
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it's 1% to get an exotic. Not just the EB

smoky tapir
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per what i read from the data mine, its 1% specific for the EB, the other exotics are on a different drop table

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the other exotics are on the general drop table, not the first kill drop specific ones

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i believe each boss has 4 drops, 2 that use the first kill table (replaced by teh general pool on subsequent kills) and 2 from the general table.

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plus with the changes they did, exotics were moved off of the general tabel for certain things to stop the whole see red but its not what you want (TU10.1 or 11 made that change)

tender hollow
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is it worth to run though DH more then once a week to try n get it then?

smoky tapir
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most run just the last boss after the first clear as teh last boss always drop a key so 5 kils and you can open the chest again

tender hollow
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huh, didn't know that.

wary moat
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if you have a group that run it 4x all the way, you'll have 4x chance opening the raid chest

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farming the last boss require alts that has checkpoint

sterile cedar
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just got a Rav from my 2nd raid run ever. ty to my teammates who shared it with me

strange crater
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Anyone doing a raid

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This would be my first one I am 397 almost 400

uneven garden
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Just did my first IH of the week and the mortars at morozova did seem to go crazy

jade ibex
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How hard is IH vs DH?

normal mirage
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IH is longer and more mechanic driven, less of a spa check.

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DPS*

molten hearth
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is the ravenous worth it? i kidna want the keys for it but i can't find a decent team

jade ibex
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Ok thanks

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@molten hearth I was thinking the same

molten hearth
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lol

jade ibex
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I have the Eagle already but still want the Rav for the collection

molten hearth
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i don't have any raid exclusives

flint iris
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Ravenous is very worth it. A very versatile gun that can do a lot of things

severe jungle
#

how experienced is "experienced" in terms of a raid? what's the requirements in peoples minds?

flint iris
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IMO it means that you have a thorough understanding of the raid and can fill multiple roles

severe jungle
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I kinda assumed experienced meant able to lead and teach, but I assume there's a spectrum of answers to my question lol

flint iris
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Yeah, cause there’s a “range of experience” as well, so it’s kinda hard to define and is different for each person

wary moat
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experienced means the player has an idea how to do certain role in that particular raid, it may be he didnt beat it or beat it

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lead or teach is all honesty, oneself need to advertise or tell that group he can lead, he can be experienced and has high learning curve

coral ledge
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@lusty flower Yes, if its the project you mean then yes it will automatically appear in your inventory

wheat peak
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oQDanteQo1

humble solar
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Experienced differs per person. I call casual if they know basic mechanics and can do their job. Experienced is when you know every position and can easily fill that slot with little or no hindrance on the team. Shouldnt used the term experienced if you cant lead and designate spots for everyone. IMO

crisp merlin
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Experienced is when you reach top 100 on the leaderboard

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everyone else is casual

humble solar
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In time, clears dont mean shit

fallow night
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Any experience player running DH?

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LFM DH RV1

valid marlin
tender hollow
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LFG-RAID-PC

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LFG DH

flint iris
fluid pier
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@crisp merlin I’m pretty sure there are very experienced players that can comfortably lead raids or fill any role in a raid well within or above expectations that aren’t within the top 100

fallen epoch
humble solar
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@fallen epoch time. Anyone, and almost every just farmed morozova.

fallen epoch
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You can also be carried in a speedrun, some people even pay just for that XD

humble solar
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Depends how people define speedrun, but yea lol

mortal zealot
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hello guys

lethal ivy
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what do I miss out on when I do a raid again before weekly reset

warm wren
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Miss out on the exclusive loot from that run, but not much else. Still get some gear from it.

proven elk
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I need help with dh raid

tender hollow
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can you get eagle bearer on discovery mode?

warm wren
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EB is exclusive to normal.

heavy veldt
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For future reference how easy is it to throw together a raid normally (1st raid). Got Warlord a month ago and want to finally farm for raid exotics.

whole spoke
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Didn't know that the third boss of IH can turn invisible if he doesn't jump down after destroying the third turret. We had him aggroed up top and then he turned invisible after we broke his armor

lethal ivy
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@warm wren what's considered exclusive?

warm wren
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For Dark Hours, you have the Eagle Bearer, and for Iron Horse you have the chest and backpacks from Future Initiative and Foundry Bulwark and also Ravenous and Regulus.

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You can run the raids as many times between each reset, without missing any loot from the next reset.

lethal ivy
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thanks for the info

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wait so I cant get the exotics after first weekly run

warm wren
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After the first weekly run on a character, you wont be able to open the chest as you wont have enough keys. You'll have 4 from the weekly chests throughout, and 1 from the final boss. The final boss key is farmable, though, which gives you the opportunity to open the chest at the end again.

eager jay
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hey, complete Discord newb here, but SHD level ~1300. I've just never bothered with the raids due to the matchmaking limitations and having a long-defunct clan. I'm familiar with the raids from watching video, just not quite sure how to get started here.

warm ibex
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@eager jay Go to the lfg channel below, check out if there are groups online and if there is a spot free just hop in an tell them you havent done the raid before and if its ok to join. Then follow the instructions of the raidleader

opal otter
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Any tips for last boss on IH. After triggering health bar for the train, we get hit hard every time and wipe. Any tips on what people should do to control npcs. Also if possible, what do y'all rock? We do 2 tanks, 1 healer, 5 dps players. Is that good or any other suggestions

tawdry widget
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Use decoys to diverge the aggro and try 1 tank 2 healers, one of the healers cancels her on the last phase.

vagrant wing
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In my personal exp when the group is struggling it's better to run 2 tanks. The lasers will kill the healer pretty fast if he doesn't know where to position himself where as the Tank have some breathing room due to his shield (and armor)

@opal otter what you described is a DPS problem (i.e. the adds don't die fast enough) - you guys made it through boss 3 so i assume the DPS is fine. I'd suggest first look out positions for that fight (you can basically kill the adds at spawn) and second just to be sure check the DPS builds again

tender hollow
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imo 2 tanks, 1 healer, 5 dps players is optimal for **pug **groups. The extra dps helps to keep the ads under control.

2 tanks, 2 healers is horrible for **pug **groups, especially when the dps isn't high. <- I hate 2 tanks/2 healers. Its like using 4 emp dps in Razorback.

1 tank needs to use vanguard, and try to keep the bonus armor up as much as possible and the other tardigrade. For Pug groups, the dps need to use cover as much as possible, especially to avoid the green lasers. The key tank should be helping to draw aggro and kill the Heavy in the last phase, and immediately go to the side of the heavy when leaving the tunnel.

exotic prawn
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how viable in the new turret+drone build in raids? both dh and ih

merry cipher
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Not.

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The Skill Builds are more than anything safe builds. Safety is less of an issue in a Raid where you typically have a healer, and a tank running Vanguard pushing 1M Bonus Armor onto you 95% of the time.

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So you can play a lot riskier, for a lot more DPS oriented builds, and you can't get half the numbers of a good Red build with the Skill Builds going around.

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There is room for skill builds, in particular fights, but they're not Turret/Drone. Jammer Pulse and Artificer Hive I think are the ones used in Razorback.

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And you only need one of those so chances you'll run it are 1 in 8.

verbal mist
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Yeah skill builds not so great in raids . I have run turret drone on boss 4 iron horse but kinda sucked . Yes drone build for dh you need jammer and heal hive or really any hive with hw

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Oh and btw I killed drones last night with perfect skilled and perfect calculated . I ran vile mask with arrow . Gotta remember to get in cover though

tawdry widget
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@tender hollow Just to clarify, I didn't mention 2 tanks, 2 healers. I mentioned 1 tank, 2 healers. Atleast the 2 healers have something to do. A key tank has nothing to do for 2 phases, a stagger tank does nothing for 1 phase. why not have a tank that does keys on phase 1 and 4, staggers on phase 2 and 3 and a healer that staggers on phase 4, heals himself while doing it and can still leave his hive on one of the sides? While there's also a healer on the other side with a hive and a chem launcher. It's a win/win.

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@vagrant wing Healer, tank or dps, will die if he doesn't know where to position himself. The tank can run to the chunga even if there's a healer staggering.

tender hollow
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^ we were discussing what is the ideal makeup of a raid team and tactics, in the context that its a "new" to IH team / PUG group, and likely some members do not have good builds and/or know what to do.

tawdry widget
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As suggestions were asked, I gave mine. Still can't find a reasoning to why 2 tanks 1 healer is going to help more than 1 tank 2 healers. At least give everyone something to do. Having 2 tanks 1 healer are first week strats that people are holding on to like it's their blanky.

tender hollow
crisp merlin
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So far every pug group I’ve completed with was 2 tank 1 heals. The single healer was able to heal everyone simultaneously

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Also what’s the mechanic for green lasers? I’ve only been dps in IH4 and rarely ever got aggro and even still they tickled

plucky spade
#

Anyone want to do IH I really want that foundry chest piece

vagrant wing
valid marlin
tawdry widget
hybrid cloak
wary moat
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i find being healer fun in IH, its just me, for boss 4 though i tend to be doing 3 jobs at once, stagger the boss, healing the party and help out the side if need dps lol

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we do 1 healer 1 tank strat

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so we dont have problems with ads at all and dps

lusty bobcat
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After you clear a raid for the week. If you do it 5 more times for the key from the last boss, can you open the chest again?

warm wren
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You can.

storm token
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How do the keys work in raids?

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Since I'm interested in getting the Eagle bearer

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Barer

warm wren
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You spelled it right the first time, but there are 4 keys from chests between encounters, and one from the boss.

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The chest keys are weekly, while the final boss key is infinite.

storm token
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I've never done a raid so I don't know which keys are for which

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All I know is that there's a crate at the end i think that has a 100% drop chance of the Eagle bearer

flint iris
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Nope

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10%

storm token
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O

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☹️

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Is there a guaranteed way of me getting it or do I have to do multiple dh raids?

warm wren
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No guaranteed way.

storm token
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Well this ought to be fun

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Can i at least have a chance of getting it through one of the 3 bosses?

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Or however many bosses there are during dark house

warm wren
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1%, iirc. But mainly from the final chest/sharing.

storm token
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..

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I don't want to obtain it from sharing because I'd prefer getting it by myself rather than someone giving it to me

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So the best chance I have is from that chest

warm wren
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An EB is an EB.

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Most people already have it, so they are willing to give it up.

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But remember to bring a raid ready build, or you arent likely to clear it.

storm token
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What builds are raid acceptable

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I have a pure dps build

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With dps talents

warm wren
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Full Meta Jacket is probably easiest to construct.

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PM me your build & stats sheet, if you can.

urban token
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what delate my message ?

warm wren
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use the correct channel

urban token
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sorry

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i speak french ...

warm wren
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This channel is for discussing raids, not putting them together.

urban token
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do you have serv french ?

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or chanel french ?

warm wren
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I'm sure theres a french division server, but it wont be an official server.

muted horizon
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I like how the french guy misspelled channel as chanel, I like to think that's intentional.

verbal mist
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👆🤣

humble solar
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Just ran DH the other day, 1st time since pulse stacks and got 14mins. Hope they reset leaderboards again. Wanna see some speedrunnin

distant blaze
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So I’ve put together a dps build was wondering if anyone could look over it and tell me if I’ve got it right

toxic cove
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plz how to have the 5th key hour dark raid plz

humble solar
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@toxic cove the 5th key drops in the loot piles after beating razorback

hardy shell
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This sounds unrelated but merry Christmas lads

dusty ibex
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Is anyone doing a raid?

warm wren
lethal ivy
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raid lfg kinda dead

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IH raiders I meant

muted horizon
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Doesn't matter if it's dead or not, can't LFG in the discussion tab.

lethal ivy
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I understand

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thats the other guy

dreamy cove
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hey

true merlin
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Hi is hunter's fury/scorpio build viable for raids?

verbal mist
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I’m gonna say no . Otters may disagree

warm wren
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Theres... 2 places in IH that you can get away with using HF, but nowhere else really.

flint iris
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Even in those 2 places it’s kinda wack using them

warm wren
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for fieser you can be on ad duty butyour boss damage will suffer, and in morozova you get a good amount of close range damage but you lack anything to take out the snipers

flint iris
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Id take Scorpio as a backup on those, but as a main weapon, maybe not

warm wren
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yeah, basically

wary moat
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scorpio may be used as a stagger for morozova i think

warm wren
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It may work well if you dont have rav, good point

wary moat
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i could be wrong though, stinger hive has explosion

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thats why it can be used for morozova

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scorpio might not have the explosion

flint iris
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Does the confuse stagger it?

warm ibex
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If you are the healer or buffing the team scorpio, if not -> NO

wary moat
serene chasm
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@dusky stone

tender hollow
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What does "rv6" mean on the raid channel? I assume "LF4M" means "looking for 4 more"?

unkempt pollen
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someone speak spanish?

tawdry jasper
tender hollow
unkempt pollen
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what group playing iron horse?

pastel crystal
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I want to 🙂

sleek igloo
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Iron horse on channel number1

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we need 4 players...

warm wren
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@sleek igloo Try in #lfg-raid-pc, not here. This channel is for discussing strategies and builds in the raids, not for LFGing.

sleek igloo
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Thanks my friend, ill try there

ornate rune
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when people say they need a DPS for raid what is the build they are looking for? I have a decent PGC/FAMAS build but dunno if I should run PGC in raids

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is it the DPS build in the pinned Build Advice?

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actually nvm, ill make the Full Metal Jacket build

lethal ivy
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whats the full metal jacket build?

lethal ivy
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any builds that go with ravenous?

hardy shell
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ih boss guide pls

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I’m going to do my first raid with a group of friends,all first time

glossy blaze
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you can look up on youtube

true moat
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@hardy shell a really good dps can get you through ih as long as other roles are covered

hardy shell
muted cliff
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looking to do my first raid

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can anyone help

flint iris
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Try the raid lfg channels, this is for raid discussions

timber vigil
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I am looking to play Dark Hours. Anybody willing to invite me as the clan and discord I joined seemed to have forgotten me?

flint iris
timber vigil
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I don't know how to work the channels.

flint iris
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You can at least read the names, right?

timber vigil
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Yes. I don't know how I join a raid as matchmaking isn't an option.

flint iris
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If you can read the names, you’ll know where to put your lfgs ¯_(ツ)_/¯

timber vigil
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What does LFG mean?

flint iris
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Looking for group

timber vigil
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LMFAO!

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Thanks.

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I am not seeing LFG for the division 2..

flint iris
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..

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Actually?

normal mirage
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click on the RAIDS tab, sometimes it hides the subchannels in discord

half halo
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Hello looking for hardcore group that speedrun raids , am talking perfect strong group that shaves off seconds when speedrunning

warm wren
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Try in #lfg-raid-console, not here. This channel is for discussing raids, not finding people to run with.

half halo
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@warm wren thank you but I am looking for speedrunners who are not just looking for clears so I figured this is the right place ?

flint iris
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Again, this is for DISCUSSIONS

half halo
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@flint iris ok then let’s discuss speedruns then 😆

flint iris
half halo
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@flint iris grumpy man, ok chill

tawdry widget
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@half halo go to the time leaderboards, check who's there, see if any of the names match with the people in this discord and get in touch with them. probably easier than asking here.

weary niche
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@half halo what times you aiming, i can point you to some groups

half halo
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Evenings CET

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Oh you mean the speedrun times probably

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DH less than 20 mn

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IH less than 40 mn

weary niche
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You can ask Tactical rebel guys, i ran them a little like 2-3 months ago and they for sure can run like 25min IH, not sure what they time atm is

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So yeah, join them discord and write that you are interested in speedruns

half halo
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Thanks @weary niche really appreciate it

weary niche
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👍

half halo
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How do I search for them ??

tawdry widget
half halo
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@tawdry widget there’s no limit of course am just saying this is the base I am looking to start off

tawdry widget
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I understand that, I'm saying that a "speed run" isn't 20 minutes DH and 40 minutes IH. 10 min DH and 25 min IH, at least, are more like it.

half halo
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@tawdry widget I wish I can find a committed group to be able to achieve that

tawdry widget
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I don't want to be the party pooper, and truly hope you can find one, but if they can get those times, they'll probably have a fixed group to do it. unless they're taking carries while at it.

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on the other hand, a lot of people have left the game, so who knows, maybe someone's looking for a +1 and you're in luck.

half halo
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Thanks

weary niche
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10min DH?

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I mean i have done DH with 8:30 myself too, but that was first year, with one shot Razorback and Boomer

tawdry widget
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HFR's TU9 time is 8 something (with gear 2.0, on PC, with multiple POVs on YouTube), still one shooting razorback. so 10 min DH should be doable

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probably no one doing it at the moment because of both IH and people leaving the game in general. harder to get everyone motivated and still trying to get a time when we can't even scroll the leaderboards, not to mention all the glitched times still standing.

humble solar
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10mins is still achievable in DH even now

ripe stag
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does your golden bullet global event turn off when you raid? Not just while you're raiding, but toggled off and you have to turn it back on?

quasi urchin
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what builds are effective in raids ?
is a critical damage build with baker dozen good enough for both the raids ?

tender hollow
teal falcon
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Hello
I read on posts from 2019 that the exotic in raid were lootable only once a week and per character so do the raid more than once even by collecting 5 new keys on the same week with the same character not give even in 2020-21?

vagrant wing
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No. As long as you get 5 keys you get to open the chest and a chance for the exotic

hardy shell
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can i get any of the exclusive loot(foundry chest+bp,ravenous,eagle bearer...)if i do it on discovery diff?(which i believe is easier than normal)

teal falcon
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thanks @shell owl

flint iris
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@hardy shell no, those are only from normal

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(Because it’s not as easy as discovery)

fluid pier
teal falcon
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sure

humble solar
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Did 14min less than a week ago with no strats at all. Was a simple 4 phase on RB and a few runs later got 12mins with a 3phase. 10 is still doable if you implement tactics

teal falcon
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3 days ago i did 14 minutes with randoms just full dps with no fast travel and no optimization

hardy shell
warm wren
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Not... really tbh

hardy shell
warm wren
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Some mechanics dont exist in the discovery version.

fluid pier
fluid pier
teal falcon
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what you mean about "What were the split times?"

fluid pier
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What were the times per boss/area?

weary niche
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@humble solar didn't they hard capped Razorback to 4 phase or pierce shot still works?

tawdry widget
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they nerfed specialisation weapons damage on named enemies (aka tac 50 on razorback), but if there's either enough tac 50s or d50s syncing that should be enough damage to do it. specially with the ravenous damage to armor plates. where before TU7 only 2-3 people needed to sync, it may need more people now.

weary niche
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That i know, we where one shotting with pistol builds too on some point, just i know that boomer is hard capped, but i thought Razorback is too