#td2-raid-discussions
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Yeah, Williams has a hard one for decoys. I like to go to highest floor during turret phase and keep the tank on the ground floor and shoot down on him
I have had a ravenous stolen from me too - but been given 2 - so I reckon there are more good people out there than sad losers....
@mortal remnant don't complain about someone stealing it. You guys were just dumb not to go for safe house
@mortal remnant later we will laugh about this XD
Mello is a rogue agent. Isaac should've warned you lol
@mortal remnant and thx btw Rogue for life dz players stay rogue agents !!!!
@coral gulch i am not a sad loser. i just play for my own fun so i toght like wy not takle it i was litery for the first time in my head like yolo
Matter of opinion really - I wouldn't do it - your choice
@coral gulch it was my first time doing it actualy nortmaly i wold never do it.
2 stolen? U mean u did the same mistake twice? 😅😅
@tame pawn That's what my team's doing, dps go up top, leave 2 tanks (1 of them is equipped with decoy) and keep him busy
but yea agen i was like yolo
@tame pawn @fossil pendant thanks guys. And DPS clear ADDS from up top? adds everywhere
But certainly easier to deal with snipers
We go up top when the boss is on the turrets. You are able to shoot down to deal with the npc's. Just make sure your tank doesn't get shredded from all sides
why is purple add killing power on 2nd boss when control room doors close?
thought they stop when doors close
its never prevented it, they can still turn the power off. Usulaly when the door is closed, they aggro onto someone else. also if it spawned before the doors closed, it will still have the turn power off flag
They will kill the power if there is someone upstairs outside the control room
You wanna kill the wave after the door closes and move everyone downstairs outside the control room
basically let the doors close, wait for the next spawn (to make sure that it didn't spawn at the same time and kill it then move everyone downstairs
Yeah, that is what is working for us
cheers guys
So here's some questions on the 4th boss:
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Is it worth it to kill the initial NPCs then the Chunga from inside the spawn room first before stepping into the final encounter space? 1 group claimed that the timer for the chain gun doesn't start until either the Chunga dies OR players step into the final encounter space.
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Is it better to kill the last mortar using guns and saving 2 RPGs for immediate use after the bombardment phase?
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When the green laser turrets spin up, does shooting them actually disable them?
@narrow dirge
- no idea - need testing
- if you want to save some time for the next phase or your group doesn't kill the rpg guys/not shooting the rpg fast enough then yes
- havn't tested it myself but from a bunch of vid that i've seen - the answer is yes
- yes you can kill the red guys and chunga before anyone leaves the room, it will prevent the timer for the gun to count so you can get the first motar up right way
Why are you asking btw? if it's from a speedrun perspective then you want to get inside the room, kill the heavy first with focus fire and do the turret right away.
If it's not for a speedrun then why do you care? i mean if you missed some phases on the turret it's not a big deal, just make sure you're using cover properly
Honestly, it's a matter of efficiency (which is kinda speedrun ish) because it seems that a lot of players grind that 4th boss repeatedly because of the low drop rates of chest/backpack/Ravenous.
And when you're doing the last boss for the 6th time, you start to wonder where you could save a few minutes here and there. Also anything that increases success seems to be worth discussing.
The fastest way is probably kill chungus and then run out. On the first fase don't shoot last morter, just use RPGs. After the fases there after you can save the RPGs, becasue you only have to kill the bullet
its only faster if you wern't able to get the first turret shooting before. If you were able to kill the heavy and still get the first turret shooting off, then its slower to stay in the hanger since the turret timer doesnt start till someone runs in
What @tame pawn said
Can anyone tell me the bare minimum requirements for the new raid?
There is non? It's not a dps check anymore. Tanks & healers are viable and even crucial
You cant indeed Rush dps the raid anymore
so i can actually enjoy the raid without being forced into a specific build? 😮
since you're new to it. aim for this as the minimum (for a decent dps build)
3 prov
fox prayer
grupo
coyotes
stats: 50% chc, 130% chd all red cores weapon. with unbreakable and a weapon dps backpack talent. @short trellis
theres no min requirement, but have a semblence of good rolled gear and synergy or players wont invite you to their groups
so i can actually enjoy the raid without being forced into a specific build? 😮
@short trellis Your'e forced to play more then one specific build 🙂
Have several builds ready min maxed ( status Cc / healer /tank)
For example, Although ppl might not agree with me here but imo, skill dps build isn't a viable option (except on two parts maybe)
On a part you can use it. You can use the arti hive for the 50% DMG output for the turret
Ehhh. I'd say go with the better option. If you're playing dps switch to something else
I stick with providence gear and Fox and contract. Dont know about Striker tho since it got fixed and tweaked abit...
my current weapons are Darkwinter named SMG and the perstilence
better recommendations?
should probably move this discussion to build advise
@short trellis striker sucks btw
Yeah and the buff isn’t even that much
Has boss 2 changed since the update?
why would he be, there was nothing in the notes
the heal thru the burn is a valid strat
Boomer can walk through a closed door for a start.
First of all
That’s not boss 2
Second of all, does it matter that boomer can walk thru doors?
I mean it doesn’t change how you beat him
completely ruins the strat that involves all the doors in the arena man
Hmm
smh mod doesnt even know about door strat
Boss 2 IH has changed a bit, purples always try to disconnect power from the control room
that has always been the case
Hi all , question about ( Goal Project Foundry Bulwark Acquisition ) if you donate all the parts you are getting one of the blueprints for it ?
Anyone know if they fixed banner for clan on dustry donkey raid?
Hi all , question about ( Goal Project Foundry Bulwark Acquisition ) if you donate all the parts you are getting one of the blueprints for it ?
@celest nymph you get all 6 blueprints after the 2nd project for each set (the one where its 6 Random Brand High-Ends)
@celest nymph you get all 6 blueprints after the 2nd project for each set (the one where its 6 Random Brand High-Ends)
@smoky tapir Thanks
Has the time on the bullet on the final IH Boss got reduced? or the RPG's doesn't drop that frequantly ?
Boss 2 is gone bandy boomers walking through walls and we can’t shoot them
Fuck you MASSIVE
@mellow lark really? I thought purples stop trying to disconnect the power after the window has shattered (well new purples that spawn after the window has shattered and doors close)... Otherwise this would mean you need to always keep at least 1 player upstairs patrolling to make sure no purples flip the switch for the entire encounter until you get to the DPS phase Well shoot I guess we need to keep a player up there with lullaby shottie then
Heavies walking through closed doors and we can’t follow them through or shoot them. From last week you have changed the raid!
Yea we do because they do turn it off regardless of window
They didn’t last week or for the past 2 weeks since the raid started. It has changed
Invisible add is part of the update too?
"Undocumented" patch changes
Last 2 weeks you could just leave them be once the door closed... Now you loose 1-2 players so you can control them
I've seen people posting about boss 2 IH today. We know the timing and tested it 10 different ways. They seemed to have done something for the purple ads smashin the box upstairs. They never stopped.
Yeah, it's definitely different now. Our first boss didn't drop down from the train for some reason
How do you switch shoulders to fire Ravenous when your standing up on PC?
@tender hollow default key is shift while aiming
@tender hollow default key is shift while aiming
@snow night awesome thank you for your help with this
Do i get the regulus parts even if i cleared the raid already?
@exotic marsh it’s only granted in first clear of the week
@flint iris okay thanks
has anyone else had issue with the final project for the regulus collecting the exotic components? I have the final project and the first two exotic parts (main frame and curved grip) did not drop from the first two bosses, only the third and the forth boss and the opened with keys cache gave me the exotic components?
did you kill those 2 before this week?
@mellow lark i killed all of them before this week
you only get it on first kill of the week so you probably completed the project mid raid or something
but if you got to the last project this week, youl only get it next week
when are we supposed to get our "First Strike Patch: Operation Iron Horse?" My team and I beat all 4 raid bosses in the first week. Has any body else gotten their arm patch yet for those that beat the entire raid in the first week?
Have the fights changed in Iron Horse because now we're losing power all the time up in the control room?
@obtuse osprey ppl say they spawn more frequently now but not too sure
Theres no first week patch im pretty sure
Adds go for the light more noe
And do so more agressively
yea they fucked up the fights.
Its literally just as easy
The purple mob just used to jump down like an idiot when the intended purpose is to pressure the upstairs players
they auto run for the power switch not jump down
But can’t you just move that out of the equation if you use the fieser breaks control room strat?
yeah we got stuck because of that
we had to completely change our line up
its like learning the whole raid again
Anyone else having issue on 2nd boss where even though you hit the right panel it doesn’t work?
Well it was either an unintended mechanic but if you let the purple ad melee the power switch and then kill him before he broke it everytime he spawned again he'd never try to brake it again.
He would do the same if he broke it and power turned off where every subsequent spawn he'd ignore it.
So I guess Massive have stealth fixed it.
I've heard if people shoot the red box with the ravenous that it causes that. Never got to try it as I don't have the weapon @limpid obsidian
We are exp weird issues with water too. We have 15,15,15 and 15,25. We hit only those 3 and it goes to 99. Then sometimes our heal hives won’t heal. This is only on 2nd boss
Extremely annoying
I haven't experienced that yet but if I did I'd be annoyed too lol
You sure someone else isn't adding another 25 from another position?
If you're on US East servers, we've been having weird situations on those servers where the codes keep changing or beeping as if they're wrong, but they're clearly right.
@burnt rivet omg. So are we!!!! Thank you so much
Same. We could not figure it out. We are also having water issues as well. We are on US East
we switched to US Central and West and they didn't bug out anymore.
How do you switch servers ?
i believe someone from those regions has to create the raid server first, verify region, then have people join on him
otherwise it'll pick based on the group or at random 
Thanks everyone .... serious. We were losing our minds and this helped a lot. Still ticked off but at least we know why
@limpid obsidian for the healing hive it seems to be an animation bug. Don't throw more than 1 on the ground at once in the room. Also when you throw it make sure its far enough away that the stim animation has to jump from the hive to whoever it is healing. We found that worked well. When you stand too close at times it made the noise but the animation wouldn't go so it wouldn't heal.
anyone else have issues with the drone not following the agent for 2nd boss soloing top encounter in IH? I was thinking of using the healing seeker mines instead since they heal the same / share the same cool down as fixer drone
could anyone what is the meaning fresh and rv 16 or 12
in the lfg-raid chat
new here
@sonic spoke Fresh means from the start, rv + number means Raid Voice channel (16 or 12 or whatever number)
@valid marlin thanks alot!
so is the meta now using a solo healer in broken control room after the patch?
isnt that what everyone was doing before the patch too?
generally saw teams putting 2 in the control room and occasionally they still forget to communicate the hive swapping lol
oh really
i dont see why youd send 2 in there
solo healing it is pretty straight forward
is it just the btsu FI build or do you need a specific chest talent
honestly its any healing setup with btsus
btsus are there for emergency usually
ive tried the heal seeker but its pretty shit and has a hard time keeping up
and sometimes the fixer drone loses contact with you for some reason despite literally being beside
yea i dont like it much
i just hive and use chem to hold while hive recharges
just have to be mindfull of your hive charges and juggle stuff well
@mellow lark can u solo top with just chem launcher and hive? I was thinking of going from drone -> seeker
yea i can, if i go down its because im being stupid
just takes a bit of practice to not let hive run out
what's wrong with seeker? Is it slow like the drone?
it doesnt keep up with the fire damage
on yourself atleast
or maybe i neede dto be full skill repairs in mods and stuff
I looked at the numbers and the healing on the drone and the seeker are the same. With survivor, you also get that +15% healing mod for the seeker
but I never tried it in game so I wouldn't know 100%. Tried soloing control room today and wiped because the dumb drone failed on me
never tried the drone so i wouldnt know but my build is not full into repairs, i grab a lot of haste aswell, so it might be that
i just really find the seeker and drone unreliable
Seekers only do burst heals like chem while drone heals you constantly, just gotta watch the drone and ensure it's following you and if it doesn't then recall it to you.
yeah another person mentioned to SPAM Q/E on your keyboard to ensure it's following u
Or just walk a bit slower through the control room
i actually thought about that haha, instead of running just activate walk
yea if you run it stops healing
Haha. Open C.. OPEN C... Yeah.. almost there
LOL.
A is ready too, where tf are you? Walk faster! 😂
but its honestly just letting the hive recharge when youre not doing much
"rocket ready on A....hello!?!??" ...."daddy chill..."
like let it go from 30 to 20ish charges, pick it up and spam a few chems
Yup. Though I like the drone better while pressing buttons, no need to wait for hive if i forgot to look after it, drone keeps me alive in the meantime while i can still hold the doors open etc.
yea i usually end up picking up the hive and using chem when i know i dont have to open
so that i have hive ready when i do
its just a matter of getting the timings down
il usually overcharge when water is due because its very action intensive and hive can run out
I guess I don't want to be using drone after I send in the tank for the water gun, cause I would have to run to pressure. Drop a hive then I could run safely
yea at that point i make sure hive is full, drop it and let the tank in, and run to water
Yup, I try to get my hive charged and use the drone right before water so the hive is ready.
drone would stop healing mid way thru that
you would think the agent would be smart enough to just duct tape the drone to their face.
Surely if they have altered the second boss ads constantly going for the power switch, then it should either put it back to where it was or rendor all time scoreboards as void. You can easily lose a minute or two as a result of dealing with that alone, therefore there is an unfair comparisons between previous clear times and any new ones posted.
yea the 5 groups who do speedruns will be very unpleased
@mellow lark I see a damned sight more than 5 on my platform.
Highly doubt the npc behavior change on control room is affecting most if not all speedrun groups. You will always want to ensure Fieser aggro is not drawn to control room until the tank's broken, so whomever on top will have an easier time clearing the adds, doing codes & opening doors.
Even the fastest time on PC doesnt break the glass until the tank is broken. So yea it wont slow teams down at all
Is this the Xbox player raid session or?
Is this the Xbox player raid session or?
@analog shell what?
@icy hull what I was meant to say is can anyone help me with iron horse raid please?
ah, well you can use the LFG raid xbox section here.
What LFG?
@icy hull how would I match make iron horse raid for some reason it only lets me match make dark hours
?
Dont matchmake, it's the channel under this. Its #lfg-raid-console except for you itll say xbox
go to the "LFG raid xbox" channel on the side <---
and match make is only for dark hours right now. iron horse doesnt have it till later.
Oh ok thanks
plus matchmaking is only for the discovery difficulty, not the normal one
if your gonna do IH, at least read up and watch vids on each of the fights to know whats going on
IH has a lot of mechanical fights that can be overwhelming for a new player
Pugging anything but the first and last fight is super high risk.
basically really since you can get 5 keys each first kill set
just move your items thru the stash to each character. with the new loadout system you can quickly send to stash and pull out on next character
after you set up the loadouts on each character of course
just move your items thru the stash to each character. with the new loadout system you can quickly send to stash and pull out on next character
@smoky tapir can you stash your loadout in one button? agent gear-> stash
Can I ask a question
I think I capped my toon's CHC/CHD due to the way the rolls are
How do I get in the raid with only 49%/134%?
Farm better gear?
But in all honesty, 49% chc is fine if you have 2-3 coyote's masks in the whole group. They will compensate for you
Going over 50% is a waste imo
Not if no one runs coyotes
Ok. True that. But haven't had that happen yet
Oh it's going there slowly. Ppl want that big dps and doesn't care about the dps of the group
to be fair i'm doing the same so who am i to judge 🙂
I ran Tardigrade yesterday in my DPS build. Doenst help a lot, but definitely contributes
Tardigrade is actually best on DPS builds IMHO. re-sestting that talent is very very ncie and helps the group a ton.
is there a bug with the regulus exotic part drop? I already finished and created the regulus. I did another fresh run and all the parts dropped again so I can make a 2nd one...is that intended?
is there a bug with the regulus exotic part drop? I already finished and created the regulus. I did another fresh run and all the parts dropped again so I can make a 2nd one...is that intended?
@normal mirage Haven't tried this personally, but did you move the Regulus to a second character before you did that? I know that allows you to redo the Liberty and Chatterbox quests for parts
I thought regulus was only first fresh run of the week
I thought regulus was only first fresh run of the week
@flint iris I did the fresh run the next week, after reset. As for the Regulus, I don't remember where I moved it when I completed it the first time.
Can anybody help me get my first raid clear and get the new exotic rifle
@timid lark use #lfg-raid-console
its not that easy to ger Ravenouse , i have mine with 3 chest , byt i know player who open 12 times and doing 30 raids and nothing
As always, pure RNG. I got mine after the first clear out of the Box. But I guess this is because I got the Eagle Bearer only after 75 Clears. Compensatory justice 😀
MY EB droped on 40 th 😛
Okay, I know everyone is busy with IH raid the same as me, but I ran DH raid last night and see they have made changes to Buddy and Lucy and some changes to Razor, why the change and also why were we not told?
what changes? @wooden condor
Everything is the same up to Buddy & Lucy, Buddy's seeker mines explode with poison gas and Lucy snipes you with poisonous bullets, on Razor they have moved and changed some obstacles and the ads seem to be quicker and more aggressive, but also seem easier to take down.
imo they really should have setup the Ravenous like the Regulus where you do a couple of projects
thats actually a bit messed up, raid changes like boss abilities and not in patch notes, wow
took me exactly 30 clears to get the Ravenous.
budy always had poison
they probably just tweaked AI
but if they did move shit on RB im very curious why they didnt mention it
buddy does seem meaner now though. could be ai like you said and the fact its been a while but he killed all of us on his side with gas .
just seemed odd to us
Try to ensure everyone sets his world difficulty to normal without directives before you set up the raid.
We see this in IH, sometimes the global diff makes IH go nuts too, shield guys spawning constantly without the slightest delay, Gray not taking any damage from 7 glass cannon players with overcharged pulses and such. So might be the same and maybe buddy's gas gets scaled because of global world diff. @verbal mist
World difficulty has no bearing on it. At least for grey, if ANY shield guys are up, they provide a damage reduction aura to Gray so he takes less damage and gets stronger the more shield guys alive. If your trying to "JUST" burst gray down, your doing it wrong. The Shield Adds must be killed as well or you will do no damage to him. I dont have the exact values but i believe each shield npc alive cuts grays damage taken by half. You want 1 or 2 Negotiator builds to help keep them controlled.
Or just sweet dreams the first 3 shield guys and melt the boss .. 🤔
@tame pawn what he said 👈
They are never elite on the first spawn. If you have 7 glass canon DPS guys the boss shouldn't make it to the next shield guy wave
We had that done with 6 DPS having Intimidate, heal in new set (with body and back) + tank for vanguard . Boss done in 15 seconds
only DH
@smoky tapir We know how it works, thank you though.
It was about it being weird because of global diff or US server and shield guys coming out like ants on spice and on other occasions not being able to do any damage to Gray even when the shield guys mechanics worked properly and they were all down.
Any one running an Iron Horse raid in 6.5 hours i can get in on
@serene vessel use #lfg-raid-console
@flint iris would you like to join a dh raid for 6pm est if one drops out?
@shell otter sorry man maybe another day, got golf with some friends
@flint iris no worries
Im after a couple of guys that coukd join in with dark hours if anyone drops out, 6pm est, 11pm uk, quick run with experienced team, no carries, no first timers, all keys and i need to eb, spending time practicing with my crew is leaving me no chances of getting it myself,get in and out
Ljg IH riad fresh not completed before. Solid dps
wrong channel, use the LFG section
Oops lol
omg, first time in raid and few people leaving
Million questions about iron horse and one stands out more
Why couldn’t morzova destroy the WH at the beginning like at Williams boss fight
i think her intention was to get close enough to destroy multiple targets, which is why she has so much ammo we have to break - instead, she had to settle for trying for just the whitehouse after we smashed her train
Yeo what’s like the bare minimum stats I want for raids? I rly want to complete my first raid but I want to make sure my stuff is good enough before I go looking for a group.
If you have a build that is good enough for heroic, it's good enough for raid IH imo
Glass canon (except on first boss) is not advised though
I literally just use my normal 3 pc Providence, coyotes, 1 pc Grupo, and 1pc Fox Prayer and swap out the Sacrifice for Providence with Unbreakable on it just in case.
Though other builds are useful for this raid. I’m tanking more than I usually do
^ @remote jay this is a very solid dps build to start with, you do want vulture ones tho like healer and tank
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Should I buy the newest New York expansion?
Its great
Hello. New here. What does KWTD and RV15 mean? I saw it in the last message of the LFG raid pc
KWTD = Know what to do RV15 = Raid Voice 15
Ah. Thanks!
you have headshot damage when you need crit hit damage
for headshot damage use digital scope 45% hsd
and get focus or perfect focus on chest for highest possible dps
chc and chd everywhere
type /inspect securitytool in game to inspect me
why to go for crit dmg when i get head shots?
cuz headshot damage is a weaker stat since it is capped at 10% instead fo 12% and not everything has a head
also you can still get a lot of headshot damage if you use the 45% hsd scope
hey i asked someting in that chat if any wana ivite me il say thanks if not is ok 😄
i have 155% headshot dmg with no headshot dmg on any gear
also if you get headshots you want rifleman instead of boomerang
have boomerang on a second m1a for stuff that doesnt have a head
why lol bomerang gives me 35 or 40% crit dmg evry time i get 1 bulet in magazine
hey 2.6 mil is that bad?
boomerang is pretty good but rifleman is most dmg
get rifleman and perfect focus...crit headshots for 5.8+ mil
thats with focus at 60% and rifleman at 50%
perfect focus for what part of body?
did u insperct me
nah xd
i saw now ur gear
The Ravenous can only drop the first open after the reset or can drop anytime? For example can I open 5+ times or more after the reset and the first open have I the same chance to get it?
It always has a chance to drop from the chest when you are able to open it
yop , thas why players farm 4 boss only , i have 4 characters and droped on 4 chest
its even easier for iron horse, Morozova is such an easy fight
That's relative. All the bosses in IH are an easy fight if you know the mechanics.
Many do, try #lfg-raid-pc.
its even easier for iron horse, Morozova is such an easy fight
@summer girder there is not much incentive to do a fresh run, because you do not get keys except at the last boss. However after you do Morozova X number of times, its super boring to do it again.
Have anyone running into problems with 3rd boss final phase? I’m mostly running with randoms and all using the same tactic but some group able to finish it where other not; is it lacking dps or I’m just missing something.
depends if the group can keep him from healing much
and how well the adds are controlled
2 mins after locking the furnace is plenty of time to kill him
Get him to the last armor bar and things either go right or haywire
someone needs to be on demolisher if no one's on his weakpoint directly
Nah In reality you should have enough dps to kill him with 4. 1 on his weak point , 3 dps 1 healer 1 cc/ tank , 2 on adds so the snipers don’t pick your team apart
3rd boss, everyone hit topside before he drops, cc boss, rip adds/boss
yup each time
Each time, same as it was with razorback in DH
Was farming Boss 4 on IH a minute ago and the rocket guys wouldn't spawn and the shell wasn't there......
known issue
Did you save rpgs?
the server sometimes gets buggy and can't track rpgs
only thing that would fix was a wipe
Anybody know how to beat second and last boss
on?
for either raid, there are TONS of YT videos.
Ih
i know
rv1 3rd boss checkpoint
whats RV?
@dense marsh RV ## means raid voice ##, corresponds to the voice channels below
Yeah no prob, if you have a question, ask. I’m sure the community here is more than happy to help
i see, much appreciated
hey guys, just came back after months. Have there been any major changes to the game mechanic and the raid boss?
Quick question; for the Regulus project, do you have to wait for the weekly reset to get the drops or can you just run any ol' fresh IH?
Once you get the project for collecting the parts; the next fresh run will drop them at each boss completion.
4 parts drop from the bosses, 5 th part from the chest
Is the box capped to how many items drop in it? Should’ve had another ravenous drop out the box now but had the golden ingot piece on 4 characters out box this week
No, the part and Ravenous can drop simultaneously
Hey. What does the rv + Nr means in the lfg-raid-pc?
Rv - raid voice (voice channels under lfg-raid-pc)
Nr - new run I guess ( not sure)
Ah. key. thank u warHawX47. Thats the numbre of the raid voice chanel. .}
Impossible cause I’ve opened the box 15 time’s since my last ravenous dropping and since then parts for regulas have dropped and not a single ravenous
Keep trying man!.. U will get it in the end!!
Already got 4 and tryna get my clan it
And god forbid exotic parts dropping on every boss
I and my raid team are very confused how we keep failing the last boss, we're starting to get demoralized and done with this game, it has almost been a month now, and none of us have completed it, our "progression" starts at 1:03:00 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/689843489
If there is anything you can spot that I haven't picked up on, I'd lover to hear it from anyone that is more experienced with this fight.
I and my raid team are very confused how we keep failing the last boss, we're starting to get demoralized and done with this game, it has almost been a month now, and none of us have completed it, our "progression" starts at 1:03:00 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/689843489
If there is anything you can spot that I haven't picked up on, I'd lover to hear it from anyone that is more experienced with this fight.
@obtuse osprey Id just recommend that 2 of you separately join several different last boss raid farms to see the sequence of steps that they do and what builds they use, then you can replicate it with your team. It still is a DPS check, despite what every one says, so your 5 dps need to be able to have high dps, and especially so if you have only 4 dps.
it's not really a big dps check, there is no time limit and a single guy can handle all adds, they only have one spawn point anyway, another dpser can deal with rpg's on each side
as long as you can interrupt morozova the fight is fucking trivial
it's not really a big dps check, there is no time limit and a single guy can handle all adds, they only have one spawn point anyway, another dpser can deal with rpg's on each side
@fleet trail yeah but if that single guy cant handle the ads up front. your screwed. so it is in that sense
it's amazing how they can go from fieser and willy to boringzova
@tender hollow like previous swap a few people who have clears to show you the way! We did after week one, two people came in different who we knew! And they tweaked use and 1st run and we downed it in about 30 minutes, we’ve only 5 regulars and pick up 3 randoms off lfg last night and done complete run in a single night, now where trying to get time down! But don’t give up this is end game stuff
@fleet trail I agree 100% its not a DPS check at all. You can put a dps guy on each ad door with Tamper Proof and a turret and even those dps guys barely have anything to do. Keep the boss rockets under control and its over.
So the green lasers do you shoot at them or get in cover and wait it out?
Did they change the drones in Dark Hours?
My EMP is not killing the drones anymore.
@obtuse osprey shoot at them and it puts them down for a bit. They typically target the person on the pad so you want to prioritize them then
Yea I thought so, I just noticed recently my DPS or Tank asking why nobody is taking the turret down
@next bobcat we run 4 ad guys 2 on each side and each side has tamper proof turrett . Works great . I do see people hoarding rockets and this causes issues and failing . But your spot on
We have deticated rocket guy
Yep. Using DPS on the last 1 or 2 turrets or hoarding rockets at all throws the games timing off and causes rocket guys to stop at times. I always tell the teams just use the rockets for their intended purpose when they drop.
Hmm
@fleet trail I agree 100% its not a DPS check at all. You can put a dps guy on each ad door with Tamper Proof and a turret and even those dps guys barely have anything to do. Keep the boss rockets under control and its over.
@next bobcat Can a tier 0 turret kill the ads by themselves if you have tamper proof? Or does the dps guy have to get some shots in
@echo vector on phase 1 and 2 yes. Elites are heavier phase 3 and 4 and need some dps
quick question Ironworks Base Material drops every time from bosses or only once a week ?
I think it's once per week for each character/alt
@celest nymph only for the first time you raid per week
@celest nymph only for the first time you raid per week
@vagrant wing Thanks thats sad ..
So are there any other ways of finding a raid sherpa, outside of Division Discord, Division 2 LFG or lucking out and finding and joining a clan that raids? It wasnt hard to find a group to learn raids with in Destiny 2, but after a week with no luck I am somewhat discouraged.
What raid @dreamy token ?
Honestly, I would prefer Iron Horse...
The problem is, DH lost popularity so all the exp/sherpa players moved on.
IH is way harder and moat importantly you can't carry anyone through (i.e. everybody have to do thier part) so moat ppl just want to make it through without wipeing. My guess is - give it sometime, sherpa groups will pop up again (i realize this isn't answer your question, sorry...)
It was more information than I started with, so thank you! @vagrant wing
Honestly, I would prefer Iron Horse...
@dreamy token basically you need to find a nice group willing to teach you how to do it .. best way would be to find a clan ..
Np. Sorry again... Best you can do is suffer through the pain of pub groups. You might be able to join a competent one every once in a while
@dreamy token or u can do it as i did, join a IH raid, have no clue but a good dps build and just shoot the enemy where u r assigned 2 do so. Learning by doing ^^
@woven pecan it won't work for boss 3 for example... I'm not saying this method not valid - just saying you might need someone/a vid to explain some crucial parts
@woven pecan I have done that before in games that I have more experience with, but I have only played Division 2 for about 2 months, so I know that could really eff a group over...
thats why i added the part about the "good dps" there r always ppl telling when 2 shoot boss or minions, so i just did that and learned the mechanics on the run
@celest nymph I will keep looking for a clan. Thank you
but i have 2 admit, i did watch a vid on willy afterwards, bc i had no clue what was going on there^^
@woven pecan Thanks again, I will consider it once I have a decent DPS build. (I am only hitting around 1.4m with Baker's right now.)
@dreamy token that being said, watching a vid 4 the mechanics is always worth it^^
@woven pecan Will do. Thanks to everyone for the wisdom!
Maaaan.... I really want to do the Raid to get the Initiative backpack.
That is all I need....
@vast oak it doesn’t hurt to go lfg in the raid channels
@subtle oxide drops are different, you can always open the chest as long as you have 5 keys
@subtle oxide any opening
aye I'm looking for a raid team that can carry 1 person successfully guaranteed so I can learn the raids. I'm pretty tired of running and losing and wasting 2 hours only to end up with a headache
@honest pumice #lfg-raid-console
Anyone still having weird issues on 2nd boss IH. After we get the crucible to 100 the system is still making us do panels. It has never done that before
And the rooms fills up CO2. Literally has never done that before
aye I'm looking for a raid team that can carry 1 person successfully guaranteed so I can learn the raids. I'm pretty tired of running and losing and wasting 2 hours only to end up with a headache
@honest pumice imo thats how you learn. if your carried, you only learn how to be carried.
gotta love how everyone want experience for the raids but refuse to help people get said experience
There are plenty of people out there willing to take on newcomers, it’s just that the amount of people not wanting to are higher
@fervent pendant that is easy. Find 7 other noobs, spend a few hours grinding out each boss. We all had to do it. People do not feel like spending a few hours on a boss and have one guy messing up the mechanic because they dont know what the fuck is going on.
That’s pretty much how everyone did it at the beginning
And you can't classify 'everyone' want experience. There were many groups earlier LFM ppl for IH without requiring exp. Some of them explicitly said exp NOT required....funny only one person who was new to the raid joined 🍭.
Carry me @drowsy totem but I despise 4th boss farm and everyone seems to only want to do that.
nah you are 3 people alone. you are more than geared enough and competent enough to do it @amber blaze
Some people in this discord, you would be surprised.
Carry me @amber blaze all i do is 4th boss farm, because 1 Ravenous isn't enough
I have no Ravenous @vagrant wing 😄
@amber blaze well, you only get the keys from other bosses once a week...
im not going to run with noobs only to be frustrated by spending hours something that's been done 1000s of times by now.
all I'm asking for is help to complete my first 2 raids with a very knowledgeable team. I'm not asking for feedback how I should do this i just want help. I learn quick just want to find a team who can literally carry me for my first raid for that completion. and please no feedback or hateful or rude comments about this idc how you did the raid this is how I've done raids in other games and events an it always works out.
so if you're willing to help a brother out hmu in my dms pls
why quote?
He's on a ps4 i don't think they can play together
oh
oof I keep posting in the wrong section
lol it's just frustrating people telling me how I should play and not giving me anything but indirect answers then they just say things louder like I'm dumb for asking my question 😅
Well i didn't want to say anything but since you opened it...
(Feel free to ignore my comment now), asking for a straight carry is a no go for the majority of ppl. Granted no one should tell you how to play, but when a "pro" host a raid and tell ppl what to do, it just polite to do as he said (as he probably know what he's talking about hopefully)
lol no i get that I'm just saying people in general on not raid stuff
I'm not an idiot i know how to listen and follow orders on what my task should be
Don't mind me then 🙂
haha its was just frustrating cause I was trying to figure out how much dps he was outputting on the shooting range to compare my build to his and hes was just going on this giant spiel about it's all about chc and damage like no really derrr I didnt know and literaly argued for like 10 minutes when all I wanted to know his dps for a full clip
Whats the definition of a 'carry'? I feel that it's a very broad definition and ppl will have different interpretations.
carried as in hold me on your back and walk me to the finish line
Like don't involve me with any mechanics, I just wanna sit here and shoot stuff that comes out of this particular door?
yup lol I'm listening to what they're saying but unless I'm doing said mechanic I'm not going to learn it
Well it's gonna be hard for you, not gonna lie. IH designed so that everyone has to do something (unless you're in a full all knowing group) it'll be very hard to find that said group that can do the raid with 7 ppl from start to finish. Just saying
I find it really hard to understand why people expect people to carry them in IH from fresh, like at least read up on each fight and have a brief idea on how mechanics work, then I'll gladly clarify what you don't understand instead of having to walk you through everything from scratch
^^^^^^ so much.
I am at the last checkpoint and tried getting it done with groups until 4:00am yesterday.
I just want to get the raid done and that is it.
If you need guns, i'd help
I recently completed Operation Iron Horse and also farmed the final boss a few times and in the crafting table I still haven't got any blueprints for Foundry Initiative or Future Bulwark. How do I get them then?
@opal plover if you have completed operation iron horse you would notice you have 2 new projects
complete each of them to receive the full set of FI and FB blueprints
Oh, thank you 🙂
Boss 1 , 2 , 4 I truly think a person can just be assigned to kill ads . Boss 3 there’s a mechanic that you really need to understand . Have 32 clears and maybe half went smooth with a group ive been running with for over a year . Carry’s are hard sometimes because of the player . We’ve noticed some players want to argue with you instead of listening or the player doesn’t have a certain loadout . Joining a clan and getting to know people in my opinion is the best way to raid . And you meet some really cool people , just like I met everyone here . I study some of the builds in build help , read up on the raid discussion channel etc.. some will say the raid is easy which makes it harder for a new raider because it’s not . Join a clan , get to know players , synergies help a lot
So gotdamned hard to stay in the top 5. New times comin out daily
#roundaboutwayofflexing
I need 2 base ironworks to complete the future project, can i farm it. If not do i need to do a fresh raid on 2nd character or just wait for reset?
Does anyone know?
The base mats only drop on first completion of the week. So yeah, you ll need to run on a second char
Thanks for the response mate
I agree with the advice to join a clan. I am far more willing to teach my clanmates about the raid mechanics because I am likely to reap the rewards of that not only in the current run, but also in future runs. There's A LOT of mechanics to explain for boss 3 of IH and after having explained it a couple times, honestly, it gets old explaining that stuff to randoms and still seeing them not hitting panels or valves when they're supposed to.
There are absolutely people who have the patience to keep teaching new people, and they're saints. I'm just not one of them
im new can anyone eexplain how to get a raid group
would love to join one but cant get enough players
I have cc builds dps builds
is that doable for a raid?
Try joining a group in #lfg-raid-pc
why are there so many in each raid group?
Because a full raid team consists of 8 players.
yeah but there's like 16 in one for example
That I cannot comment on. So, dunno.
its a bug in Discord. if you do CTRL+R, Discord will restart and all channels will show correct numbers @ripe stirrup
anyone have trouble fast traveling to the boss 4 checkpoint eventhough it's saved?
some members are having it spit them back at the start
Try fast travelling in Menu instead of using the checkpoint guy
If that don’t work, u need to open raid up again and inv everyone
its a bug in Discord. if you do CTRL+R, Discord will restart and all channels will show correct numbers @ripe stirrup
@fringe crag omg thank you for this.
I'll agree iron horse raid is no cake walk, if you have a set team, you've all meshed and understood the tactics, then it becomes easier, but as soon as you add a new player, everything slows down.
its not even slow down. Most of the time its a wipe because you fail the mechanics
I'm looking for an iron horse raid group for over a week now. I 'm inexperienced in IH, because i haven't had the time yet.
The only thing i see however is farming last boss or experienced only.
Its not that i want a carry , i want to learn , but it quite frankly seems impossible to get to that point.
When first doing dark hours there were a lot of people making groups and helping others, Now it seems impossible to simply get IH done.
Any tips ?
You're not looking hard enough? There are plenty of groups in LFG saying that they are fresh IH and newbies to IH.
Also, in terms of learning IH, there's been at least 1 guide a redditor made about it. While it doesn't cover all the additional strategies, it does give you an idea of what needs to happen (especially for boss 2 and 3).
yes there are many , but it never goes anywhere beyond lfg. The groups that form are farming the last boss or only want experienced players.
I've seen guides and videos but untill i do it a couple times i cant say i know how it works
also watch the YT videos on the raid.
I see fresh raid LFM's going on every day, Its most prevelant on Tuesdays when the reset happens. Also I'll echo the above, if your new/inexperienced, at least read/watch each fight before joining a group. The fights arn't newbie friendly.
Usually by Sun/Mon, fresh groups are more rare most people have run the fresh run and gotten the keys already and theres little point in killing the first 3 bosses beyond the first kill
How about this... Create your own group and bring in other people who haven't done it before either. Currently looking at lfg for PC, there have been at least 2 people LFG IH who are new (MaDucer and SnopTropolis).
Just be upfront about it when you post in LFG... Some players will obviously skip because they want smooth runs where everyone is experienced but there are plenty of people who don't mind the shepherding role of guiding some newbies through the raid.
Also be sure to have some viable builds before going into raid... That has been interesting seeing some of the folks builds...
Was keeping the reset in mind, so hopefully i'll have more luck then . thanks for the responses
I echo being honest about your skills but more importantly what you've done to prepare. I occassionally lead raids with a couple of newbies. But understand running a fresh group is a minimum 4-5hrs of commitment for a lead with a high chance of not clearing it.
So ensure the lead knows what builds you have. Did you create a healer? A tank? A proper DPS? Did you confirm youve watched several full videos on completions of the raid you want? If its DH did you run discovery?
All of these things matter to a lead and will get you picked over the "LFG IH, never done it" guy who looks like he needs a carry and is forcing the lead to ask you questions now. Just a tip but GL
thanks for taking the time to respond.
dark hours raid razerback boss join raid voice 10
@scarlet torrent use #lfg-raid-pc for that
So on 2nd boss the purple on C spawns closer to the control room now, why?
you mean at the door right underneath the stairs at C? @tender hollow
if you are talking about purple and heavy adds that disrupt control room, I think the spawn points are always the same door, no?
Defending control room up top. They used to come out door down then run up the stairs but now they come out the double door closer to the power
lol really? I thought they always come from up top....on both sides. Then again, I rarely get control patrol duty
Before 10.1 they used to run up stairs but now they don’t
That's inaccurate. They always spawn upstairs. But if the ppl downstairs didn't do their part and left some adds alive, these adds will climb up the stairs to shut the power off as well
When I was doing it before 10.1 the heavy and purple came from downstairs. Now doing it they come from the foible doors right next to control room
It was always this way. Never saw then coming from below
The heavy and the purple always spawned top.
Also on boss 2, when do people do the water phase? 1 group does it immediately after the crucible has dumped on the tank, but last night groups seem to want to wait for the boss to do his (if you are in the room wipe) then do the water.
Trouble is that waiting that long usually also spawns another set of adds that we have to take care of.
the problem is if you are doing it and then hes doing is room explosion, it will gib the people in teh room while they are doing teh water. Lot depends on when the last one was
if its been a bit since the last room explosion, its better to wait for it to go off then do the water bit
Well when I was there they used to spawn down there never up through double doors
if i recall (been a bit since i last handled add duty), heavy spawns in the door across from teh control room entrances and purple spawns in the side door
It's better to just keep two people on stair duty. Once the crucible it's poured, and you know you have some time before the next cannon fire, you can have the guys downstairs hit the appropriate water valves. Since we preplan what water is needed to be hit, we can usually hit the valves and fire the water within 5 to 10 seconds.
so this just happened on 4th boss of IH.... after the 2nd round, we entered the 3rd round (when chungas are supposed to spawn) but the main cannon didn't start loading a shell
chungas did not spawn nor the NPC enemies
Yet we were able to kill 4th boss (without defeating the train)
There are many bugs with the last boss atm.
Need to restart
The "KWTD" and "exp" and "have x number of clears" is seriously discouraging to newbies.
And I can't blame them entirely when it takes newbies 6+ hours to get an idea of how things work. It's nuts.
the least newbies can do is go to youtube and at least just skim through how the mechanics work.
Still, the amount of "last boss farm" posts, taking up more than half of the LFG posts, tell me players don't like doing the entire raid.
Alot of people don't even have full clears but 40/50 cp clears. Turns alot of people off using lfg's (including myself) and sticking with the same group
I haven't done the whole thing yet. I've beaten Gray, Fieser, and Williams. I've attempted Morozova once.
It’s not that people dont like doing the whole raid, it’s just people want the ravenous so that’s why they’re farming last boss so often
@native copper I don't agree with the design decision, but there is virtually no incentive to do the entire raid, even when it resets, when you can just farm the last boss over and over again for keys. Most ppl just want the chest.
Yeah. The one single thing I will DEMAND of Division 3 is bad luck protection.
Still, the amount of "last boss farm" posts, taking up more than half of the LFG posts, tell me players don't like doing the entire raid.
@native copper Because IH is much harder than first one , my Ravenouse drop 2 days a go and now will be easy farm for me 🙂
You don’t need rav to do well but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
If you play enough or grind enough, players should be able to get exactly what they want.
I'm in it for Ravenous too, but I'm at the stage of still figuring out mechanics, and 90% of the LFG's don't have the patience for newbies.
ppl like to collect exotics
Because they just want to get it done and over with
ppl like to collect exotics
@normal mirage absolutely, me being one of em
Yop true for cellection 🙂 but Ravenouse is very godo gun , he melts tanks and dogs
I've got 10 more days. If I haven't gotten Iron Horse beaten or Ravenous, oh well. Horizon Zero Dawn is probably going to steal me away. Time will tell if TU11 brings me back, or if I'll be waiting until Skyscraper.
I think I'll be SHD 1000 by the 7th. I average about 100 levels a week, and I'm 906 right now.
Eh... it's really good for staggering Morozova... yes yes I know you can use other things to stagger (merciless, explosive sticky, stinger hive, normal grenades, etc) but rav is just faster... two rapid shots and done.
I still prefer my M1A 😛
I think it would be somewhat poetic if I beat Iron Horse with my Negotiator's Eagle Bearer build. Complete the 2nd raid with gear I got from the 1st.
Raids are some of the only fights where it's potential is maximized. Otherwise I can't get the stacks maxed to 20 because they drop to 0 out of combat.
To get the regulus tho you have to complete a full raid.
I think it would be somewhat poetic if I beat Iron Horse with my Negotiator's Eagle Bearer build. Complete the 2nd raid with gear I got from the 1st.
@native copper yes, but you wouldn't have finished with , if you didn't have Healer or Tank build , for IH its not only DPS
neg. is pretty useful in some encounters
@normal mirage my 4 piece backpack negotiators is 46.5 chc, 192.9 chd and its not even maxed out. I use a ceska vest, so next minor update I can put a chc mod on it, as apparently the devs are going to let you use any time of mod in a mod slot
@normal mirage my negotiators is 46.5 chc, 192.9 chd and its not even maxed out. I used ceska vest, so next minor update I can put a chc mod on it, as apparently the devs are going to let you use any time of mod in a mod slot
@tender hollow i Preffer my Crit build with High ends , 57% CHC and 215% CHD
My negotiator crit build is 56% chc and 177% chd currently. I've got about 8% chd to go in SHD upgrades.
@tender hollow it’s the next title update btw, not the next maintenance patch
So tu11
@native copper yes, but you wouldn't have finished with , if you didn't have Healer or Tank build , for IH its not only DPS
@molten steppe Yeah, but I'm a newbie at it, so I've been relegated to add-clearing both times I've attempt it.
Negotiators is good for boss 3. Pure dps with drone for boss 4. A tamper proof turrent is hilarious for boss 4, but risky every time you try to put it in the right spot. I reckon you could afk a skill build, turrent + tamper proof + artificer, in boss 2 tower.
Negotiators is good for boss 3. Pure dps with drone for boss 4. A tamper proof turrent is hilarious for boss 4, but risky every time you try to put it in the right spot. I reckon you could afk a skill build, turrent + tamper proof + artificer, in boss 2 tower.
@tender hollow for 4 th boss it is not advisable to use drones , because sometines tehy pull agro on boss , and dmg him when you have faze for not DMG boss
opps ment decoy
yeach decoy is good 🙂 and crusader shield
I never try negociators build, because i think you lost many talents from high end crit gear
Ppl with ravenous, does explosive dmg increase the dmg from the 5 offensive primers’ detonations?
No its based on weapon damage
Honestly, there is no difference in people looking for 4th boss farming and people running wall street/ the tombs over n over again for bulletking.
Its just the fastest way in farming an exotic
Aight thanks for that @summer girder
Honestly, there is no difference in people looking for 4th boss farming and people running wall street/ the tombs over n over again for bulletking.
Its just the fastest way in farming an exotic
@summer girder yeah but is alot of cry topics about last boss farming because is count like complete entire raid 🙂
If I open the box the raid and I open it again the same week can I still get the Exotic or do I need to wait for the rest
Who knows the answer to this question
you can still get the exotic
Thank you
what plugin is this to get the timings when you do speedruns ?
It's in the UI settings.
oh so it is build in ?
Yes, check the settings.
ugh the train doesnt spawn the last round for the earth shaker
iron horse seems to be bugged
the earth shaker refuses to spawn the last round after we kill morozowa
my clan had that problem aswell
have killed her 4 times now with no last round
we even re formed the group to see if that worked, didnt :S
cant find any info on it aswell
post in the support forums or contact support on their website
raid is glitched
@turbid cloud We just stumbled upon this bug aswell
pretty fun hey
yaay
get them support cases sorted lmao
LFG DH RAID
@native aurora use the channel below #lfg-raid-pc
@flint iris ok
Is the bug happening each time?
Anyone farming 4th boss
use lfg channels
So the Iron Horse bug is going to be quite the conundrum for Massive.
Are they going to put out an emergency hotfix because it has to do with their precious raid, or will this bug exist for weeks and weeks like the Keener Drone because it doesn't make players' lives easier?
I mean it only happened once last night (prior to maintenance) and a quick reset "fixed" it. Is it happening more frequently now post maintenance?
Also (with all good bug tracing), what are the steps that's causing it? For the mortars in the initial phase, are people using only 1 rocket on the last mortar (then using gun DPS for the rest)? Are people waiting for the 2nd rocket guy to respawn BEFORE or AFTER knocking out the last mortar? How fast are players using the rockets after the each bombardment phase? Are there any players doing gun DPS on the Earth Shaker shell at all?
@narrow dirge I’ve experienced this, but not sure about anyone else, but whenever Anyone in my team shoots the shell at all the rockets don’t spawn
@native copper anyone have a video? Have the Ubisoft mods been alerted somehow?
rocket people not spawning has been an issue since IH launched
True
Well I recall anecdotally that if you [gun] DPS the mortars then sometimes the rocket guys won't spawn. So what some groups do is to make sure there are always two rockets on the ground before transitioning to the bombardment phase.
That is to use 1 rocket on the 4th mortar but don't DPS it down until another rocket guy shows up. Kill the rocket guy to have the 2nd rocket ready, then kill the 4th mortar. (This also has the advantage that the rocket guy doesn't spawn just after the bombardment and shoots a rocket into the bombardment safe space)
Also another thing to check is to see if the issue is caused by latency. I noticed some really weird lag behavior when I'm playing on EU or AU servers (from the US). That might also be something I'd recommend the lfg channel start using. Add in where the host is on so that folks know ahead of time.
it's gonna be hard for massive to fix if the issue is not 100% reproducible 😦
@normal mirage just means we haven't identified the root cause
When is iron horse gonna be on discoverable for matchmaking ?
prob not for a month yet
fun to think about what discovery watered down effects would be though
Boss 1) Adds dont provide a damage resistance to the boss, less shield spawns, maybe no extra random spawns.
so is IH broken 100% of the time right now or what?
from what ive gathered, it will work sometimes
please use the LFG channels
Anyone want to raid from boss 2 I need 2
ok add me
^^^^^ See Above^^^
Use teh LFG channels specific to your platform for groups
Theres a reason for them since theres no cross platform play
Can anyone on PC confirm the Iron horse best time at 16minutes and who did it?saw a shit screenshot with names cut off and I'm curious
I'm just looking to find who did it. Try and find videos. Curious how it was done.
i doubt 16min is even dooable
2nd fight alone takes about 5 at least just for waiting on the codes to be shown
and last fight takes like 7-9 at minimum
Not without some sort of skip trick.
2nd boss took my team 10 mins to do
Well do you know any skip tricks?
Everyone should memorise the codes so control room doesn’t have to say what it is
the leaderboards on ALL missions have issues with the timer reseting at various points in the run for various causes
Nope. That's why I'm trying to figure out if it's legit and what they are
Exactly
That’s roughly 1 min taken off there
So there is no skip trick
its not, the top times on ANY leaderboard are generally due to bugs
^
Them top times are server dsyncs and region hopping midway
And Williams fight is pretty long ish as well
^^ what miller said
Well when the dps glitch was around
dont ever worry about the top times as i will always say at least the first 10% are generally not obtainable due to bugs with the timer system
Re: Codes for Boss 2 - I recall someone saying that the code lookup can be simplified to a letter/number: F/P/C/R/M/45. This way the control room person can quickly ID the picture to get the rest of the team to find the right box.
For those who don't know, this means instead of saying: <space> F # <space> 0 <space> or even F # 0 (removing the spaces), you can just say "F" and the control room person can look at the top left picture and say that image.
Hi everyone. Hope all is well and keeping safe. Question if I may please.
What weapon is better for use with Operation Dark Hours? Assault Rifle, LMG, Rifle? Thanks in advance
@fresh eagle depends on your build really. Talking from pure dps perspective rifle builds are best, but you can do as good with an AR or LMG whatever float your boat
@fresh eagle I would say rifle and MG5 with fast hands is really good combo
Solution for blue screans on IH ?? PS4 platform, there is a rumor "pulse.scaners skils cause blue screans"
i think i found the reason 4 the "iron horse doesnt load the final bullet" bug. if u run neg del set u gonna deal dmg somehow to the iron horse and it wont be at 100% health before the final autocannon will hit it. just tried it without neg del and all went fine
Hi everyone. Hope all is well and keeping safe. Question if I may please.
@fresh eagle for the boss is always DPS build with even bullet king doable, sustained DPS, the rest of the time depends on your position, iron horse is not pure DPS, except the first boss which DPS helps to clear it under 2 minutes (all focus boss, throw some decoys and torrets)
@molten steppe yeah, pulse is not a guaranteed, but pretty likely to cause blue screens. We had 3 pulses earlier and 3 people blue screened
i think i found the reason 4 the "iron horse doesnt load the final bullet" bug. if u run neg del set u gonna deal dmg somehow to the iron horse and it wont be at 100% health before the final autocannon will hit it. just tried it without neg del and all went fine
@woven pecan Thx for that! you might have found it i think
Was finally gonna get my first IH completion and that damned bug showed up.
Beat the hardest thing in the game and not a goddamned thing to show for it.
GG massive.
Anyone here run the second boss control room solo with a FI heals/hazard build? Is it possible?
its possible with a straight heal build, then 2 dps either side for npcs/power.
I have FI mask, Holster, knees, and chest piece all rolled with full Hazzard protect, btsu gloves and an Alps pack. Hive refill is 1sec and hive hits for around 290k a pop. Drone heals is around 88k/sec and 80%burn resist and 60% all hazards.
Anyone here run the second boss control room solo with a FI heals/hazard build? Is it possible?
@queen skiff i dont use FI for solo 2nd boss control room. I use brand gears to get 92%+ fire res and get some incoming repairs bonus.
3 r&k, 2 murakami and 1 alps. Demolitionist spec
I know the build is stronger with brand sets, but I like the buffs FI gives the team.
My party has another healer on 1f with FI set
No need to use FI in the control room
Ah, we have the dps on A B and C supply thier own heals, with a hazard dps.and heals in the control room, I'm trying to free up one of those positions for insurance on the ground floor and power boxes. We clear the boss now without much issues save the power getting cut after the crucible stage. They changed that in 10.1 and seems like more adds as well.
My party consists of 1 healer in the control room, 2 dps on 2f taking care of power boxes, 3 dps on 1f for each of a, b and c, 1 FI healer on 1f and 1 tank on 1f to use water cannon. We break glasses
2 dps guys on 2f stay there all the time until the boss dies
That's close to how we started it, works well except for we have two in CR, and the dps on b/c side runs up to help with heavy, same on a/b side and one running hallway between boxes. Every now and then one gets through, but sweet dreams make quick work. I'm trying to push the group into more along the lines of what your talking about though, as that seems more viable than what we are doing now.
Thanks @dim musk and @shy ore . Appreciate the feedback 👍
Hey quick question, to those of you who have encountered the issue in the raid after killing Morozova, do you have a video of this happening which you could share with me? Thank you|
Also from what I'm gathering it might have something to do with players using "Negotiators Dillema"?
gg
I can’t do the new raid wtf
cmon 😠
😩
lol
Here we go
here we go
kick
lmao
yikess
tf
I can only the airport
Oh ffs
Game broken for me!
lol
Ban
Wha5 zhe fuk
YOKES
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kick For ping
whyd u @ me bruh
GONE
what
xD
🤭
bruh
nani
Reported to FBI
AHHHHHH
😔 👺
I dont even have the game installed anymore
TF is happening here
Wait till God hears about this
everyone get on her ass
a ping?! what is this!
U just ignited the fire XD
same @spare belfry
SHAUNA
😠
Im not your Playtester Sorry man

Mute the server then lmao
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@sullen spoke PING PING PING dont do that..
@sullen spoke Why do that?
ping?
smh ubi abusing
Uh Oh

@sullen spoke you know you just pinged 1447 people right?
why'd i get everyone pinged
why was i pinged
👉 👈 😳
omg
ah sheet here we go again
We all gathered here to talk. About poop.
ol uglah ahh doo doo stain ahh boy
🍿
tmw you trigger all the lurkers
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
If yall dont like being pinged disable notifications
insta delete
When people are upset that ubisoft staff are asking for community help and feedback
sit back, relax. and watch as the world burns down
ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🤫
i dont think this is a good idea 😊
is this the destiny 2 lfg?
🎲
lol
They patched people from farming last boss lol
Heard that it is after you damage the red shell with a weapon when using ND
@sullen spoke bugg that you can damage razorback with dilemma is also back
XDDD maybe not fight but is interesting
fukin cunt
🦿
anyone else want popcorn?
IM RAID YOU RAID 😡
@misty plinth I mean everyone pings are for big notifications relating to the game, so nah fam
LFG Vault of Glass need 2 warlock
yo did sum1 page me??
LMAO
ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!
why would you do that?
I could go for some popcorn
😆
When people are upset that ubisoft staff are asking for community help and feedback
@thin kraken We are not Playtesters
🍻
come on guys she probably didn't know it !
RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHAOS
wth
did someone call for backup?
ANARCHY FOR ALL BOSSES
🍿 🍪
@low portal it got insta delete i mean
@thin kraken We are not Playtesters
@upper coral
tf is happening?
LOL this is fun
@sullen spoke Don't ping me bro
BURN DOWN A BUILDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cornpoP
who pinged?
CHILL PEOPLE!!!!
LIGHT SHIT ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nice ping
fcuk division
light fire on shit
🍿
BREAK SHIT
Lol more active than a sotg live comments
If the ping was for something worthwhile people wouldn't be upset. So mute yourself, cretin
lol

HIS CHAT IS ON FIREEEE

it appears alot of people are angry because someone pinged everyone
just pinged like thousands of people at 3-5:30 am
WHO THE FUG
Oh boy time to comment about the ping
That was not medicine...
🥺
Quack
@thin kraken We are not Playtesters
@upper coral Are you playing the game? If so then sorry to break it you but you kind of are, especially in the live service field
@old ravine omg
imagine kicking ubisoft employee lmfao
lel
This got toxic real quick yikes
OOOOCA SHAKAK OOOCA SHAKA
celestial nighthawk will be great on division 2
@sullen spoke good job waking up a bunch of people at 04:25 in the morning
Lol who cares if you get kicked from this discord
Lock the channel
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
oh my god theres no way we got pinged because this girl had a question
🆗🆒
🅱️
Calm down people
peee pee poo poo
@upper coral Are you playing the game? If so then sorry to break it you but you kind of are, especially in the live service field
@thin kraken Okay Point for you -.-
OWO
👀 👀 👀
we did
Lock the channel lmdao
God half yall are toxic mother fuck-
I'm So confused... Did EVERYONE just get a full ping at 5:30am, LOL

who pinged!!!
does something terrible happen to people when a ping is done??
NO SIMPS ALLOWED
slow mode, please 😂
rip
Alright
YES
haha
hot
This is like 4chan
🏓
HAHAHAHAHA
being that mad just for a simple mention?
Alright
YES MORE DICK.
Good job XD
yepcock
Wonderful
YEP COCK
#muted
i love cbt
what in god's fucking name
so we can learn not random ping
what
Jesus.
at least the ping wasn't an inconvenience for Europe 😄
trash goddamn server
One day while andy was masturbating, woody got wood
🦆
WHEN WE GOING TO DO THAT C🅱️ T BOISSSS
@graceful phoenix Yeah, the computer spearks go brrrrr
Quack
anyone want to play destiny?
So
WHO WANTS TO ROB A SUBWAY WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
banned lmao

Increase dat slowmode
bro
IS there anything to do at the moment in destiny?
Imagine getting heated over a ping lmdao
absolutely nothing
Raid discussion
both game burned out lol
Destiny 2's next update/patch will remove 1/2 of the game, including red war and warmind
ITS 5:28 AM @timid stone
did someone ping?
**Well, this is a #td2-raid-discussions alright 😄 **
nice to see pinging works even tho i have muted the whole server, thank you discord
Ive just been doing weekly lore stuff in d2
Destiny 2's next update/patch will remove 1/2 of the game, including red war and warmind
@urban quartz ❤️
why was I pinged?
@everyone
hey lets move the destiny talk to #off-topic-discussions
I don't know why I got pinged saying I can't even do raids yet
what is going on anymore
@sullen spoke
It’s nothing to do with negotiators. We tested it and bullet couldn’t get marked. It’s likely to do with the timing as people doing it too fast likely causes it
**Well, this is a #td2-raid-discussions alright 😄 **
@vivid ginkgo quite the raid here 😄
let's talk about garden of salvation here
lol
@muted crest you need to toggle yourself to not receive any notifs at all
why the FUCK was i pinged
@urban quartz ❤️
@soft grove you play d2?
Well I see a lot of people with time on their hands,. Good luck to admin sorting this lot out.
No cause d2 sucks
@urban quartz yes add me on steam
i think this channel got raided, how fitting
@everyone Please do not use the everyone tag to tag everyone.
who called me, isnt the everyone ping removed? Where is slow mode? where is the moderation? what is the meaning of life?
REALLY THO.

gosh, a simple ping made the discussion so angry😆
@amber blaze a dev did it
/toggle myself
gush?????????????????
gush, a simple ping made the discussion so angry😆
@lyric turtle HAHAHAH
@amber blaze it was a ping/request from the Comm team.
Bruh I'm sorry for the mods Right now
It was an Admin doing it this time
@amber blaze it was a ping/request from the Comm team.
@flat fox rape the server with only one ping
we talking about gushers now? @lyric turtle
it was by admin @tender hollow
@tender hollow they're not absolute morons, they have restricted it, it was by a member of the team with the appropriate permissions
is this the way for the comm team to request a speedrun? 😄
Lol at admins censoring the chat because they're a few french fries short of a happy meal
15 sec calldown haha
🦆
I have been pinged and I can't get up
BRO WHO REMEMBERS GUSHERS.
we talking about gushers now? @lyric turtle
@tame echo my fault, it was typo ^^
30 sec cooldown 💤
Yep and half the people here can't even do raids let alone would have discovered a small bug in a single raid so why was the entire server pinged?
Might want to up that slowmode to 1m
Lol imagine it’s patched to stop ppl farming last boss
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED
the team shouldve been more smart about that ping instead of being dumb about that
Quack 🦆 Talk to the ruber duck
its a 25.
I was in the middle of doing open heart surgery and I got pinged and now the patient is dead so thanks for ruining my career
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quack
The entire Division discord consists of about 1100 people. LUL Shows the state of this game
Would have expected the ping to come an actual admin account rather then a user account with no special privileges
you really need to make more raid channels, dark hours and the new raid
i mean.. fuck its about to be 1k if yall dont stop being stupid as fuck.
why did i get a tag
@wintry kraken 126,742 members lol
@tender hollow - request for information regarding the problems some have had in the raid
oh the mods are having a go at a dude. lets see how this goes for the mad lad .
so someone complained about me?>
Then how come it was deleted?
SADLY IT TAKES A FUCKING ENTIRE MINUTE TO RESPOND..
125k+ joined but 2 k on used to be like 20k
the hell, why was i pinged ?
🍿, five minutes now
GEEBUS people
this is like those moments when you reply to an email addressed to all at work, like stop replying and you wont get the spam
gotta send a dollar to my cash app every time someone asked that
What a fucking shit show
why on earth did I get a ping??? 😮
lmao
SEE YOUR INBOX for ping notice..
Oh no... A ping on discord... Deal with it
duude what I miss?
well, this was entertaining...
M1 Ping noises
It is not in my inbox
it's already gone past because all the people complaining about it
i got pinged
bruh
@flat fox they edited their comment, so it doesn't appear in inbox. I have a ghost ping now. I understand accidents happens, but its even annoying when someone removes the at and than you're clueless.
yeah, we understand,
lmao people mad over 1 PING, are u karen? would like to speak with manager?
Suggest muting the channel.
so a ubi employee had a question and did a @ everyone?
@vagrant wing has the video evidence re: ping
At least I now have some friends to talk to during the pandemic! WHATS HAPPENIN AGENTS, WE GOT TRANSPO READY FOR KENLY COLLEGE
Ah love to see where this goes
so a ubi employee had a question and did a @ everyone?
@tender hollow yep
Every time you join a large server like this one, the first thing you should do is disable the the @s in notification settings. Not hard
@tender hollow haha 🍿
This is the most fun I've had in Division in 3 years. @spice girder don't @ me if I can't reply for another half hour
oof
edit: holy shet 5 minutes slowmode
man this has been a good 15 minutes of insanity watching 🍿
really?
@tender hollow Should go play something else then
I'm entertained
Boss said "we need more activity in the discord" and @sullen spoke was like "I got this"
i've muted every discord server i join, the spam is unreal otherwise. Also lol, they started caring about feedback a bit too late.
Oh come on now mods its just emoji
ah we got a ghost ping and now everyone is mad, seems more than unreasonable
@tender hollow I'll @ you all day long if I have to
I'm just watching now, waiting for my sleeping pills to kick in.
how could you possibly sleep with this much e x c i t e m e n t going on?!\
This doesn't seem like the raid discussion channel now XD
@manic lotus They've cared about feedback forever. Just usually helps when it's sent through the appropriate channels
Hopefully they emergency patch the Negotiator's issue.
Jesus how long is the wait time?
1st boss 30 secs, dps and sweet dreams
2nd boss can be done In 9 mins if everyone does their job properly
3rd boss around 15 mins
4th boss 8 mins
@tender hollow I'm an actual medical professional and find it appalling that you even bother with any Discord ping at all while you're supposedly performing a medical procedure that requires your undivided attention. (Yes, I know this was meant as a joke. I'm just messing with you.)
did someone do a @ everyone?
anyone knows what issue is all about?
Check the pinned message
Yes but it got edited out, check the pins
Also from what I'm gathering it might have something to do with players using "Negotiators Dillema"?```
Yes Luca... @sullen spoke accidentally made a 5:30am Whoopsie.
Lets not kid ourselves, 90% of the feedback get's completely ignored until there's a dip in the game's population and then something big gets fixed to calm the storm @spice girder
5:30 ain't the only timezone 😄 11:30 for me .... ^^
Never done a raid. Want to though
OMG
Someone did everyone and then disappear. Amazing
God damn it it’s fucking 3:40 here lol
?
@hot shoal check the #578577794561474571
4:44 am for me lol
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Why was I pinged
This game is still alive? Stopped playing months ago
Do not use negotiator.!

@abstract obsidian Yes it is. Quite alive
How is @ everyone enabled on a server this big jeez
Who pinged?
who the hell uses nd during speedruns anyway, this is a noob problem 
gonna ask the same question
Lmao everyone is mad af
and i'm gonna ask the question of why you didnt turn of the mentions off
Please see Pinned message for Ping'd message