division-universe

[sick lantern]

@summer knot

[sleek plover]

Lets speculate on the new content

[round sinew]

Any new content yet?

Just finished the new Valhalla stuff and I refuse to fill my time with Call of Duty.

[tiny wraith]

Just re-download outriders

If you haven't played div 1in a while someone's been changing things

[cold bramble]

outriders 🤮

[gaunt ice]

you're about...3 months early.Might I suggest Halo Infinite to burn your time?

[cold bramble]

lol

[woven basalt]

someone's been changing things
what changes?

[sick lantern]

possibly reusing codename nightmare

[sleek plover]

if they actually do that and bring goddamb zombies into the game, im just going to delete the gane, erase every traces of me playing division and appreciating its universe and assume everybody died cuz of mutant eclipse green poison and the age of sentient hamsters began.

[gaunt ice]

mutated dc64

[tiny wraith]

Morning hopper and DTL

[gaunt ice]

sup champ

[tiny wraith]

Morning park

I'd love to be able to fix the city little by little

[sick lantern]

The Division: Urban Renewal DLC

[tiny wraith]

Yup

Just like you do to the whitehouse or the settlement

[sick lantern]

graffiti cleaning minigame

[mighty zealot]

The Great Garbage Burn. Gather all the trash on one island then nuke the island.

[cold bramble]

lol

[full fox]

Speaking of minigame, having only something available like that while the game goes down for maintenance would be great

I still wanna try playing from the view of other factions with the existing map, perhaps

[cold bramble]

yo truuuuuue

[full fox]

I cant remember what game had that... and for some reason, the first thing that popped up was ||star wars battlefront||

[sleek plover]

Yeah, it would be sooo satisfying to clean up all that true sons black marks and cleaner snakes

[cold bramble]

I mean, I kinda wanna shoot shit, not clean up graffitti off the walls lol

[tiny wraith]

Kinda like conflict in breakpoint

[gaunt ice]

Soyjak outcasts:hue hue hue you didn’t help us so you must suffer
Chad cleaner:we will eradicate this virus by all means necessary

[sick lantern]

yes

based

[tiny wraith]

Or let us rebuild the castle

[dusk dove]

rebuilding castle doesnt make sense because of being "gassed" will take many many years before its livable.

[sick lantern]

spray it with water

4head

[full fox]

you'd figure having it rain for so long might help but then again, that's only top side

[mighty zealot]

I want to encounter the sewer cannibal cult that Volassi talks about on his radio show.

[full fox]

the chainsaw guy?

[mighty zealot]

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that this game takes place roughly 6-8 months after the initial outbreak. I haven't seen society fall so fast since Mad Max.

[sick lantern]

https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Underground_(Faction)

[cold bramble]

yeah the more time I look into the lore, the pre-outbreak government had very little faith in the US citizenry's decency in the face of a omnishambles this bad, and even that was delusional optimism in hindsight

[mighty zealot]

It was / is surreal to play this game during the height of COVID, tho

[cold bramble]

winter COVID resurgence woooo

[sick lantern]

well variola chimaera was intended to be exceptionally virulent

[mighty zealot]

Seeing in-game graffiti like "The Virus is a Hoax" etc

[cold bramble]

Also there's questions about how much of the problems in-universe are due to the Black Tusk conspiracy plot thread

Since uh yeah, they probably haven't officially confirmed it because they'd do it in a way that completely mangles the timeline, but it really does feel like Bill Kelleher's killers were BT

[mighty zealot]

I think BT is just the military arm for an Illuminati-eswue New World Order secret society.

[sick lantern]

isn’t that all but confirmed at this point

[cold bramble]

And since I brought up New York Collapse: The librarian cult that murders people who deface books

[mighty zealot]

I'm on board with them. I think we should already be doing that.

[sick lantern]

I really ought to get round to reading that book 🙃

[mighty zealot]

Whatever happened with the super hero guy you see in the echoes from D1?

That shit was hilarious lol

[cold bramble]

He actually flew to DC

I don’t remember the super hero guy…

[sick lantern]

there was two

one got hit by a police car

[cold bramble]

You can actually see it in an ECHO around the southern edge of West Potomac Park

[mighty zealot]

I'll have to look that up when I get home.

[sick lantern]

and the other guy survived jumping off a building and was really somber/surprised about it

[mighty zealot]

I thought it was the same guy?

[cold bramble]

yeah, there are two guys in hindsight

[sick lantern]

so did I for a while lol

[mighty zealot]

I thought he went to kill himself but lived and found out he was a super hero lol

[cold bramble]

This universe is wild 😂

One is a LARPer who has to ditch his stuff after a close encounter of the Riker kind

[sick lantern]

the other went out into the street in his underwear with a knife and got ran over

[mighty zealot]

🤣

[cold bramble]

The other is the one who jumped off a building to prove he could fly, actually could, then flies to DC at some point

Also there are three other LARPers in DC that are dead

[mighty zealot]

And you said his ECHO is in West Patomac?

[cold bramble]

Yep

[mighty zealot]

Right on I gotta go find it I guess. I thought I had them all, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

[cold bramble]

The ECHO with the dead LARPers is in the dried out reflecting pool facing the Lincoln Memorial. The annotations are hysterical

[mighty zealot]

Makes me think of the Red Fang video for Prehistoric Dog

[woven basalt]

there were a couple echos of that guy, think the last one chronologically was by that bench. been re-re-replaying div1 recently, whenever i start a second agent in div2, the connections are really gonna pop.

[edgy leaf]

The recordings in DZs are pretty good

No hope for society that's for sure

[sleek plover]

Damn I hate LMB

[tiny wraith]

@mighty zealot incase your wondering your big box stores only have food for 1week,the distributor centers only have food for1 month after that,unless you know a little survival,we'll that's all folks

[torpid pond]

What if the next division 3 or whatever it's called becomes a reboot? Looter shooter but storyline is different timelines like 1800's, 2000's and futuristic like destiny

Just a thought

[edgy leaf]

That's called Destiny

[cold bramble]

lol?

[tawny raft]

I would rather they didn't

[tawny raft]

turns out that was a bust looool

[tiny wraith]

Breakpoint conquest event

[sick lantern]

waiting for the reveal that The Division and Driver take place in the same universe

[cold bramble]

👀

Driver San Francisco, the game ubisoft won't let you buy

[tiny wraith]

Waiting for them to confirm breakpoint is connected to Heartland thru r6

[cold bramble]

👀

[sleek plover]

...Damn I hate LMB

[restive hemlock]

Lmfao

[sleek plover]

look upon my image

[gaunt ice]

do we have some sort of middle status for an agent?like,someone who's a rogue but not really...evil?like say,Lau but less extreme?

also i just want to say,killing Lau is the stupidest thing SHD has done,because now everyone thinks we killed the president

could've captured her

[sleek plover]

It would be....quite hillarious to have an agent flagged rogue because he had a drunken brawl with a fellow agent inside WH

without killing anybody of courae

[gaunt ice]

now imagine someone using the flame turret for a barbecue,got drunk and fight his colleagues only to be tagged as Rogue and burnt alive by the same barbecue flame turret

[sleek plover]

Imagine Kelso,Manny and Benitez facepalming at all this.

[gaunt ice]

...Benitez is still in NYC

[spare arrow]

"Hey benitez one of our agents was using his flame turret as a barbeque and was drinking, got in a brawl and got flagged rogue and his turret turned on him."
"why are you telling me this over the radio"

[sleek plover]

I mean the "incident" can happen either in NY or DC

....which I already mentioned WH as a location

which I forgot

which is also really stupid of me

[full fox]

What's WH again?

[cold bramble]

White House

[cold bramble]

Yeah, there was that super convoluted rogue system in the game's first year, where you had non hostile rogues who hadn't started lighting up agents yet

[full fox]

Ah ok

So if you were a rogue before your watch lit up, would it even light up at all?

Or would it turn red after said bootup 😅

[pearl pendant]

Basically, it was SHD Status (Non Rogue, Orange Watch), Rogue Status (Not hostile, watch is off?), Disavowed Rogue Status (Hostile, Red Watch), and Manhunt Status Rogue (Yellow Circle around rogue skull)

[gaunt ice]

I disagree,because Disavowed and Rogue are 2 different status

[sleek plover]

So imagine this

A rioter, but he was a 1st wave agent who was disappointed by the jtf like the keener rogues

but instead of joining keener, he just smashed his watch and began his life as a rioter

[gaunt ice]

dispense justice at his own way,sounds cool

[cold bramble]

🤔

why would you give up all those cool division toys tho

[sick lantern]

unga bunga brain

[cold bramble]

return to monke

pog

[gaunt ice]

DIY division tech sounds cool

scrap metal stuff but made by an ex-agent

[sleek plover]

utter disillusionment maybe?

[cold bramble]

i mean

its totally reasonable to be disillusioned with the division but you cant deny how good those skills are

[full fox]

no one ever thought of the ||ben10 ||green watch to throw in as a terrible joke? 😅

[cold bramble]

LMAO

[pearl pendant]

How about a Splinter Cell green watch?

[full fox]

😏

[tiny wraith]

@pearl pendant got it

[sick lantern]

those are gonna be like 2mm bullets

[spare arrow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2mm_Kolibri

[sick lantern]

"For perspective, an average person's punch measures 10-15 joules, meaning that the round has less energy than a punch."

[near ibex]

an RC car?

[gaunt ice]

rounds with pointy heads that also have some poison on the tip?

[sleek plover]

Hollow point with cyanide

best used against true sons, cleaners, black tuks and LMB testes

[sick lantern]

this is some sort of fetish

[bright kindle]

What other type of weapons or skills you'd like to see in the game?

Bows? Swords? Deployable minitanks? Health packs? like the ones black tusk use.

[sick lantern]

swords would be a tad silly

[tiny wraith]

Kill like a ghost

[sick lantern]

strobe like a ghost strobe like a ghost

[gaunt ice]

Jug suits,insane damage and health,draw all fires from hostile regardless of range,limited mobility and a big ass target.
Also has a duration,I have an idea about inflatable armor,like a balloon but made out of bulletproof cloth

Speciality will be AR/LMG,focuses on Dps/Tank hybrid,and the only way to recharge the skill is to snatch it from enemy heavies

[bright kindle]

We have melee npc in the game.

[sick lantern]

they don't use swords though do they

it's not the sixteenth century

[gaunt ice]

Kajila(one of WoNY’s manhunt targets) has a sword

So maybe do some smoke,paralyze magic shit and slap in a katana will work

[sick lantern]

machete*

[bright kindle]

Yes they do. Also hammers /stun batons .. Etc

I'd do a mean build with claws out firefly and a melee weapon.

[gaunt ice]

Here’s a better idea:do a Splinter Cell crossover and add Sam’s skill in as a class,pull a Breakpoint

[sick lantern]

who tf in this whole franchise uses a sword?

[bright kindle]

Kajika uses a sword like weapon.

[spare arrow]

thats a machete

[bright kindle]

That's still a sword. Just like a katana or a grate sword or a claymore

[spare arrow]

lmao grate sword

its greatsword

[sick lantern]

a machete is a type of large knife

[spare arrow]

but calling a machete a sword is very disingenuous

[sick lantern]

used for cutting plants

[spare arrow]

swords are made for fighting, the machete is a tool.

[bright kindle]

I think you guys are missing the point of this conversation just so you can make a dumb point to self satisfy your need to be right.
The original ideea was for it to have melee weapon.

[sick lantern]

bruh

[spare arrow]

you are missing the point that we've moved on from that and are now leading a class in what is and isnt a sword

[bright kindle]

A butter knife can be a sword if you want.

[spare arrow]

If you wanna use a butterknife in a sword fight, go ahead, but dont go crying when you get impaled

[bright kindle]

I have 100% advantage vs people with penut allegys.

A rocket turret be nice. Like the technician gun.

[sleek plover]

A friendly warhound with Jetplane like grey color and SHD emblem is a must.

Also I want to use survivalist incendiary grenade as a technician tbh, the grenades the only reason I am stuck in survivalist spec

[woven basalt]

arguing about the difference between a long knife and a short sword is like arguing about the difference between an a- and a b+.

weird to see.

[sick lantern]

"a weapon with a long metal blade and a hilt with a hand guard, used for thrusting or striking"- sword
"a broad, heavy knife used as an implement or weapon"- machete

[woven basalt]

short swords exist.

[bright kindle]

Like replace a weapon slot with a remote that allows you to summon a mini tank.

[bright kindle]

In gaming general history swords are referred to anything that has a blade and. After all a claymore is just a huge knife.

[woven basalt]

theres also swords from the age of an antiquity, like the machaera, where we get the term machete.

that don't have a hand guard

[sick lantern]

as do long knives

[woven basalt]

gotta say, you should've admitted a machete is classed as a knife though, a long knife.

[bright kindle]

To be honest I did not care what it's classification was. I was just talking about melee weapon and these guys wanted to act superior and correct me on the classification of a weapon type

[woven basalt]

the funny thing is it never matter to the ancients, the difference between a short sword and a long knife, thats the funny part of that argument.

[bright kindle]

We have a lot of tools that support melee combat in this game

I don't understand why we have yet to get any weapons that allow this game style.

[woven basalt]

machaera goes from short sword in classic latin to knife in modern latin, so the distinction was moot even to them.

[bright kindle]

I'd make a nice build with claws out and blind firefly. Run around blinding and killing people. Closest I've gotten to this is sweet dreams.

[woven basalt]

i don't know, mechanically, you'd probably have to lose something to graft on a melee system.

well, maybe.

probably, since you'd most likely have to have an equip slot.

[bright kindle]

Replace a weapon slot with sword.

[woven basalt]

hate to use the mouse wheel and accidentally land on a fricking knife

then its the whole "bring a knife to a gun fight" joke

[sick lantern]

yes because saying that someone uses a sword has very different connotations to saying that someone uses a machete

[bright kindle]

K

[bright kindle]

Most of the coding and animation is already made for npc. It can be recycled

[woven basalt]

...not what i meant, i mean, with how we swap on the fly with the mouse wheel, itd be unfortunate to land on an extreme close range weapon when you need a gun.

[bright kindle]

I mean it's like a normal weapon. It's up you or not to equip it. Have 2 guns or 2 swords

They can start milking the sword types.

[woven basalt]

it's just a bit messy, probably similar to why they threw out the stealth takedown feature.

[sick lantern]

heartland will have melee weapons so we'll see how that turns out

[woven basalt]

oh right, i forgot.

you know what, the mouse wheel wasn't that bad.

wow, been like seven months since that first test.

heard there was a new one recently.

[sick lantern]

yea

confirmed it'll have some form of class/hero system i believe

[bright kindle]

New specializations be nice as well.

[bright kindle]

Ain't that the new fortnight they made to get rid of the kids stinking up dz with their toxicity?

[sick lantern]

probably more like apex legends than fortnite but yea
redstorm, the developers of PvP in both div games are making it

[bright kindle]

That's good. Lease toxic people in dz. Us pve ppl can farm in peace.

[woven basalt]

it really depends on if they made it more robust, like the paid games, otherwise, just people who don't own div1/2 will be in there.

i hope there will be an incentive program for heartland, give people from the paid games a reason to be in there.

like swag or loot in the paid games for doing stuff in the f2p

[sick lantern]

I feel like that probably won't happen

[woven basalt]

then i just hope it doesnt tank within a year, causing ubi to lose faith in the IP

[sick lantern]

maybe there will be some shitty cosmetics you can get like shields were but there probably won't be any attempt to give heartland players incentive to play div 2

unless they add something more they can pay for :p

[late void]

maybe it'll have enjoyable pvp

[woven basalt]

at least there's pve, if it doesn't.

[sick lantern]

what was the faction called again? pilgrims wasn't it

[woven basalt]

unless they changed it between the two test builds.

i might end up surprised with how many things were placeholders

assumingly SHD agents making the pilgrimage to the SHD HQs in the heartland

[sick lantern]

I'm wondering if there will be more than one enemy faction or just them

[woven basalt]

iirc, we're the pilgrims, but it's been a while

a long while, forgot even the melee system

[sick lantern]

New York State is a pretty important historical area so maybe the name Pilgrims holds some weight, some theming to do with colonialism or the patriots perhaps
or maybe that's just why they chose the name and it'll be a really flimsy link

[sick lantern]

nah it's the enemy faction I swear

[sick lantern]

don't blame you, we didn't see it used we just saw melee weapons in the battle pass

[full fox]

Unless they got some scary units, pilgrims sound harmless 🤔

[mighty zealot]

Don't let the hats fool you, pilgrims are vicious

[cold bramble]

👀

with their muskets? 😏

[tawny raft]

I think that faction from Philadelphia is called the Founders

I wanna fight those guys lol

[sleek plover]

they literally dressed as minuteman and arned witj muskets

[cold bramble]

😂

[bright kindle]

Wait till they add lasers and stuff

[full fox]

I was thinking of turkey since thanksgiving just passed 😅

[cold bramble]

Whats your guys thoughts on if they ever added Duel weilding guns or Melee based weapons since some factions use those kind of weapons???

I'd rather have the D3-FNC ability to use an SMG with Bulwark

[spare arrow]

i mean dual wielding would be cool if it was an exotic, but it'd get outta hand if it was any two pistols or whatever else, and melee weapons would be pretty bad unless they give a full rework to melee

[cold bramble]

Even if it's "just" the pistol shaped ones like the MP7, Tec-9 SMG-9 and Socimi

also yeah, there's a reason why the only time you see melee being used is to finish off downed people in the DZ, or they have Sweet Dreams out

[cold bramble]

there's not really a reason for us as agents to start meleeing the enemy factions tbh

Like I said, I really want to see how the movie tries to explain the Sweet Dreams melee

what movie

[sick lantern]

the division movie

[cold bramble]

what when is this

[sick lantern]

the date hasn't been said yet

it's been in production hell since it was announced in 2016 but at the start of the year they announced they have a new director and that it is still happening

[cold bramble]

🤔

[sick lantern]

oh and also like in 2017/18 they said it's a netflix exclusive

[cold bramble]

Also the new director has played the games and really likes them

[sick lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJITuHWqQI

[gaunt ice]

A really,really blunt stick?like a jagged baseball bat?

When the user runs out of ammo he just uses it as a blunt stick and beat up someone

[cold bramble]

how do you run out of ammo in this game tho

it seems really hard for you to just run out of ammo at any point in this game

[gaunt ice]

I mean in the movies,I doubt there will be ammo crates loaded with every possible ammunition everywhere in a building irl even in war times

[full fox]

sounds like a high budget movie

though that scanner pulse would look cool

[slate cloak]

Yet another dumb Division vs question:
How well could a 4-man division team deal with 4 Payday 2 heisters
Like they could shred a heavy armor unit in seconds like a division 2 agent
and they're like
I guess way faster

Cuz they can dodge bullets

[idle swan]

I would love this so much - I miss using my D3-FNC build with two Houses

[sick lantern]

realistically it would be a stomp, as the payday gang’s abilities to phase shift away from bullets and heal wounds by drinking alcohol and etc aren’t canon

[gaunt ice]

get sticky bombed bietch

can't dodge shit if you got glued to the floor

also the Division is legally allowed to perform war crimes so run all you want,my Scorpio will still poison you 'til death even if 1 pellet hit you

[cold bramble]

rofl

[cold bramble]

i mean realistically what fucking law is there anymore when society has fallen completely

at this point its might makes right

[slate cloak]

Haha okay
now for my 2nd dumb Division vs question:
4-man team vs each Killing Floor 2 boss
AKA they'll fight each boss one-by-one together

then they'll move on to the next boss, etc.

This is gonna be bit harder since:
Hans can spam grenades, and lunge at you to take up most of your life
Patriarch has a gatling gun. rockets, and cloaking
Abomination likes to spam poison a lot with his kamikazes and mines
King Fleshpound has a giant laser along with his fists
and Matriarch has a habit of using her laser cannon and electricity

plus they can have shields so that's a problem

[raw yew]

I was actually just thinking about this in game, I want to use the diceros special and the police magnum at the same time, 1 for damage and the other for critical hit damage... this would be nice I don't see why it can't be done, maybe triple tapping triangle would activate it

[gaunt ice]

would a division agent qualify for Rainbow?

[slate cloak]

Very much so

I mean
if they were an actual thing
just make em use like 1 gadget and they would be broken

especially turrets

[gaunt ice]

what's the signature gadget for an Agent?seeker mines?

or maybe Sticky Bombs?

[gaunt ice]

why not a seeker though?

[gaunt ice]

don't they have like 5-6 operators with EMP-related ability?

[gaunt ice]

@cold bramble so i just rethink it,maybe Flash Sticky can work?

they're not that broken,takes some time to pull out and set up,remote detonation

[gaunt ice]

im talking Sticky Flash

[near ibex]

you know

for some reason i had an idea that the shd watch could be a skill itself

[sick lantern]

give your opponents the time of day

[late void]

what holiday event

[near ibex]

like you could hack their AI controlled skills for a short time

and once their time runs out they self destruct and puts theirs on cool down

[round sinew]

Give them the reflective shield

Make Sweaties in siege rage

[gaunt ice]

So they’re gonna shat on Blackbeard more?

[tiny wraith]

Morning rake

[near ibex]

morning saph

[tawny raft]

All I want is a Rainbow operator who just has an unactivated SHD watch with no comment

[gaunt ice]

Warde- wait he’s useless lmao

[floral gull]

Can Sam Fisher take on a Hunter

[mighty zealot]

Who do you think trained them?

[floral gull]

Solid Snake

[sick lantern]

probably

[sleek plover]

Found a leak on a new content

So in order to clear themselves from the alleged president killing

Agents are to enter the metaverse called the palace which represents the congressmens' hearts

and still a particular object that represents their desires

and mind control them into thinking they are innocent

[gaunt ice]

not again

[woven basalt]

wow, is there anything nano-tech can't do?

[tiny wraith]

Hey park

[mighty zealot]

I wonder if Amherst thought he'd survive his virus...

I know you find him dead in a lab in Div1; a fittingly ignominious end for him, but I wonder if he thought he'd survive and usher in a new era.

[sick lantern]

He was a Darwinist. He had no issue whatsoever with succumbing to his own creation; in fact he embraced it.

[lucid zinc]

i wonder if we could become rogue in Washington dc

[gaunt ice]

it's called DZ m8

[sleek plover]

dz nuts

[edgy leaf]

Wasn't that his idea ?

[lucid zinc]

I mean like kill Manny

And join the btsu

[sleek plover]

but they r evil

[woven basalt]

the division likes to blur the lines, the rhetoric in game makes you think of things as good guys/bad guys, but the actions/plotlines makes them out as mostly all "gray" (except for the LMB somewhat, since that's a cult of personality, and it's hard to find something redeeming about cults)

[late void]

even the LMB were offering/providing protection (from rioters & other gangs) to the civilians in areas in controlled, weren't they?

or maybe they were just claiming that, can't remember what the situation on the ground really was

[woven basalt]

they couldve been. for me, the cult part is what stuck in my mind.

i probably just have a bias against cults.

because of what they do irl to people.

[late void]

to me the outcasts have the least excusable outlook on life of all the enemy factions, just completely focused on nothing except 'revenge' against basically everyone who survived the outbreak

[gaunt ice]

based af

i've seen a BT patrol in NYC before,actually being really chill and telling civves to find somewhere safe

they aren't all necessarily bad,but either their ideology doesn't align with SHD or terrible executions

except the Outcasts,they suck

[late void]

yeah it always surprises me when you encounter them threatening civilians, or doing public executions, as it's hard to see how that forwards their objectives

they don't seem to be the types to be pointlessly cruel

[gaunt ice]

some of them are definitely inexcusable,Outcasts,Hyenas,Rikers,or maybe True Sons(they're debatable to me)

theoretically if marshal law was still in effect,Ridgeway has every right to do what he does minus randomly executing civilians

and he had doubts about the system being flawed,that kind of shit

[late void]

see, I'd say they were not good, but (other than the outcasts) you can kind of understand what drives them: rikers & hyenas just want to cut loose and have fun, true sons are mostly so used to army life that they feel safest and most in control as part of an organisation like that

they're logical coping mechanisms

pointless revenge isn't any kind of coping mechanism in my mind, though

[gaunt ice]

i can at least give the Hyenas the benefit of a doubt and say they're high on spice

not really with Rikers,their background is literally criminals,dangerous convicts,organised crime

but not the fucking Outcasts,yeah we get it you want revenge but what do we have to do with that?

technically speaking,if we don't count the JTF and SHD,the Cleaners obviously have the best moral high ground out of all the factions here

[late void]

yeah, they're a bit overzealous and obviously too ready to just burn innocents to death on the basis 'they might possibly be infected', but other than that it's an understandable approach

[woven basalt]

hyenas are scavs, they need to steal to survive. basically the div2 cognate to the rioters (but organized)

[gaunt ice]

Scavs have juggernauts but not the motherfucking United States Army

JTF moment

[sick lantern]

very sad

#LetTheJTFHaveSomeCoolerGear

[gaunt ice]

They barely has any armor or plate carriers,even on patrols

Like,I get that it’s a desperate situation but you can’t convince me they don’t even have a single vest there

Like,if I have trash gear and I recycle/dismantle 50+ of them a day it doesn’t make sense isn’t it?
Maybe there should be a feature where you can call in NPC support for missions or just free roams,and you can buff them with your trash gear

Give more meanings to,say the one hit melee shotgun?

Or the double tap explosive AK DMR thing?what is it called?

[sick lantern]

merciless or something similar

[gaunt ice]

Yup that’s it,just looked it up,thanks

[cold bramble]

They did get visual upgrades to their gear at some point after a bunch of complaints, but I don't think civilians ever get fancier gear than the basic craft-it-yourself or improvised gear.

[edgy leaf]

WONY and the electronic devices on DZ really show that there's no good and bad

[tiny wraith]

Evening hopper ,kettle,park and dan

[edgy leaf]

[late void]

Hey saph

[mighty zealot]

April K. is good. She's also a bamf.

[floral gull]

How many of these things do they have? https://imgur.com/a/iWKbTJS

[gaunt ice]

3 as of now?

I think it’s 4,Tidal Basin one and Liberty Island

[sleek plover]

Damn I hate LMB and Black Tusks

[sleek plover]

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[willow current]

Tidal basin has 2, pentagon has one, coney island has one, liberty island has one. I'm not sure but I think there's a random one in NY as well

[fading gulch]

🤔

[floral gull]

That seems more like a bona fide army and less a PMC

for the amount of resources needed to field these crafts

[late void]

yup, and the sheer numbers of highly trained engineers etc to keep them running, somehow escaping green poison

[cold bramble]

yeah there's one parked at a dock in the Financial District that's been Black Tusk-ified

[willow current]

By looking at the map, I think Tidal basin has 3

[tiny wraith]

@cold bramble did you go on it and get all the free stuff

[cold bramble]

there was a Rikers lockbox there I think alongside the mat boxes, but I didn't have keys when I went out of my way to go there

[tiny wraith]

Oh you missed things explore a little slower (its like the key in the laundry room, hard to find)

[floral gull]

On my journey to head to one of the secret SHD headquarters https://imgur.com/N6FoJqe

[sleek plover]

damn I hate LMB

[worn seal]

I wonder how different The Division Heartland is going to be. I like the idea it is in a different place but is the controls and what not going to be similar to Division 2? (ex, V for Armor, Q&E for skills, etc)

[spare arrow]

are we doing this again

[worn seal]

Doing what?

I am hardly here so...

[spare arrow]

Just poking fun at the bold

[worn seal]

Ohhh

Fixed

[spare arrow]

no need to fix it

[worn seal]

Nah, it needed fixing. 😃

[sleek plover]

I don't mind poking fun at the bald

cuz Charles Bliss, Antwon Ridgeway, and Bardon Schaeffer is bald

bald people are evil

Caillou is next

[lucid zinc]

Well I mean Charles and bardon just wanted to restore america but antown naaa he can go fuck himself

[sleek plover]

Charles wanted fascism, the most Un American thing ever

Saying freedom is not a right is an insult to what America stands for

[lucid zinc]

He said freedom is not a right liberty is not a given this city needs an iron fist

Wait a sec

[sleek plover]

yeah that's the insult

[lucid zinc]

True

But how bardon then

I mean sure

He did try to kill us

[sleek plover]

BTSU is basically

LMB 2.0

[lucid zinc]

True

[sleek plover]

that's why

and all three of them are bald

thus bald is evil

Charlie brown must be stopped!

[muted gorge]

Damn guess I'm evil

I'll accept it

[gaunt ice]

this implies that people with hair growth problems or under cancer treatment are evil

[late void]

I think he's joking...

[sleek plover]

I definitely am

[sleek plover]

seriously park?
Go play some persona 4 and learn yourself some common sense

[gaunt ice]

i was being sarcastic too,chill

what do you take me for?a snowflake?

[sleek plover]

as a proud snowflake myself, yeah pretty much

real snowflakes don't just give up in time of adversity, we take revenge

[sick lantern]

but i thought the meaning of a snowflake was to be fragile

[late void]

I thought the meaning was 'being considerate towards others'

[sleek plover]

fragile broken pieces can bexome a sharp edge to pierce the heart of your oppressors

[woven basalt]

think it means extremely easy to offend now, but it used to mean people who felt unique/special (like every individual snowflake)

it's one of those things that became subverted, like pepe or what theyre trying to do with the term "based".

weird shizz, don't know why they don't make up new terms instead of warping ones already in use.

[novel thicket]

their turrets jam, easy loss

[woven basalt]

skeptical...

[potent torrent]

Based and Non-evolving-language-pilled.

[sleek plover]

Freedom is a right, liberty is a given.

[woven basalt]

think that was a commentary on the government being defunct, the agency that enforces the rights given to citizens.

it's the "iron fist" part that's the most damning.

though honestly, bliss was only all about bliss, i'd doubt anything that came out of his mouth.

he'd say anything to increase his followers.

there was never gonna be "freedom" or "liberty" under his banner.

[lucid zinc]

[sick lantern]

which is why he flew back into a combat zone and got himself killed?

[woven basalt]

pretty sure it was his ego that made him think he could come back and have that "hero moment" he was after.

[sick lantern]

well it comes down to alternative character interpretations

[gaunt ice]

well he has the balls to stay and finish the fight,i'll give him that

[sick lantern]

dz07 lore 👽
https://youtu.be/Wehsz38P74g

imagine going up there and looking over the travesty of the mass grave

[hard crow]

^ hacked

[gaunt ice]

that's...the summit in d2 right?

[sick lantern]

doubt it

dark zone 07 in Div 1's dark zone

[gaunt ice]

i mean,the trailer for Summit implies that the building is somewhere in DZ

so maybe the timeline here is a bit after WoNY,when the JTF got their grip back to the city after all the dusts have settled and are expanding their operations back to the original DZ

[sick lantern]

well can you see central park or div 1's map when you get to the top? don't think so

[gaunt ice]

i mean,it's covered by clouds up there?so 50/50?

[sick lantern]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Billionaires'_Row_2020.jpg/1920px-Billionaires'_Row_2020.jpg
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/thedivision/images/8/89/The_Summit_.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20200904192747
I doubt it

[gaunt ice]

huh,ok then

[gaunt ice]

hear me out:maybe the building now has something to do with Rogues?

like,Keener needs a server to host ANNA in the first place

or maybe a main HQ in the DZ

[sick lantern]

well there are Hunters there

but also some of every faction in the game

I don't think Summit is canon

[gaunt ice]

i don't mean the Summit,i mean the giant building in the middle of DZ07 you just linked here

[sick lantern]

well Keener does like his luxury

but it is still the dark zone which brings a lot of unnecessary trouble

[cold bramble]

is that even the division 2?

[floral gull]

https://imgur.com/wIzH8OV

My journey has taken me to the barren environs of the midwest

[cold bramble]

what game is that?

[floral gull]

It’s set in the same time as the events of Div 2, post warlords

[sleek plover]

Seriously, what game is tjat

[unreal widget]

A couple months ago someone found a glitch to get outside of the map in Division 2.

[analog whale]

🤨

[sleek plover]

Damn I hate LMB

[sick lantern]

it’s where they tested the corn physics for heartland

[round sinew]

New update got pushed back to "late 2022"

See y'all after July, boys.

[late void]

Not sure where you got that from, the official release just says 'a later date in 2022' so it could literally be any time after February. Although I suspect the second half of the year is more likely, given they've realised already that Feb isn't going to happen

[sick lantern]

it’ll be december 31st 2022

[lucid zinc]

Summit is basically underground

Cause the last 4 boss

THINK

[gaunt ice]

i mean,technically yes

but the locations are definitely different

[round sinew]

I saw "later" and "2022" and made the rest up on my own.

Probably late March or April

[late void]

hah, fair enough. Let's hope you're right!

[sleek plover]

They probably need to make the entire plot from scratch

[cold bramble]

underground had way more effort

[lucid zinc]

The last 4 boss

Hunter is pretty hard

But still tho

Also what's the underground like

[cold bramble]

underground was way more expansive and fun tho

best dlc for the original

[lucid zinc]

Yes

I hope they are a survival in div 2

[cold bramble]

survival def a close second

[lucid zinc]

Yes

Survival seems fun

[cold bramble]

the other dlc sucks tho i can't even remember the name

[lucid zinc]

Wasn't one of it called expansion?

Wait yea the one that

All enemy team up

And try to kill u

[unreal widget]

Last Stand?

[cold bramble]

yes thx

[unreal widget]

I've never played Last Stand (not a PvP player) but I've spent a lot of time in the Underground. 🤭

[brave locust]

the new division novel wasnt bad

operation whatever

it picked up about halfway through and was way more interesting than the other novels tbh

[cold bramble]

underground my fav only thing i don't like is the hunters

[cold bramble]

operation red wings?

[brave locust]

yup thats it

thats the one

you got it

[cold bramble]

np agent

[unreal widget]

I wasn't a big fan of them either in the beginning but they do add some "ooooooh shiiiiit" feeling, which is quite nice sometimes. 😂

[cold bramble]

yeah kinda hard when you have low gearscore

[sick lantern]

wait what I’ve not heard of this

I thought Recruited was the next novel

[brave locust]

Same one

Recruited: Operation crossroads

[sick lantern]

oh

I was worried for a second

idk where you got that name from though

[glass orbit]

I didn’t know Division nobles existed!

[woven basalt]

it's on its page, guess they updated the title (and it seems it'll be a series of books)

Tom Clancy's The Division: Recruited, An Operation Crossroads Novel by Thomas Parrott.

assuming "an" means there'll be more

[sick lantern]

what page? every one I’ve checked says nothing about it

[sick lantern]

It’s an odd name because Operation Crossroads was a US nuclear bomb test

I don’t see any symbolism they were going for there, but then again I haven’t read the book

[woven basalt]

https://aconytebooks.com/shop/recruited-by-thomas-parrott/

they added pics of the cover now

it's funny, i remember when the page was mostly blank

[sleek plover]

Damn I hate LMB

[mighty zealot]

Why do you hate LMB more than the other factions? They're essentially just a low-rent version of Black Tusk IMO.

[sick lantern]

more like Black Tusk are a knockoff LMB

[sick lantern]

@mighty zealot

It's kind of his thing

[brave locust]

wow they are still going on about LMB

fulfilling a weird fantasy

[analog whale]

at least black tusk has robo doggo that can use laptops

[gaunt ice]

Bliss is a better villain than Ridgeway,change my mind

[sick lantern]

what is there to like about Ridgeway

[gaunt ice]

Idk man,he doesn’t have the same charm and trait as Bliss

Also his boss fight sucks

Eveline has a train,Hyenas has an APC

What does Ridgeway have?oh yeah,a single piece of body armor and a rocket launcher

I’m pretty sure even a BT tank can beat him

Hell,LMB is better than BT in some ways

They actually uses military skills instead of spamming endless hordes of drones and robot dogs

The only piece of tech LMB uses is the healing station

Peak LMB will stomp BT

[floral gull]

Yeah I was hoping to fight him in an Abrams tank or something

[sick lantern]

go half life 1 on his ass

[sleek plover]

One thing is sure

Ridgeway, Bliss, both bastards died too clean a death

Would have force marched them throughout DC+NY streets while citizen throw trash at them and burn them at the stake or hang them in our goddess liberty's crown as a sacrifice

[gaunt ice]

Yeah but we’re talking firepower here

What’s your take?

[sleek plover]

Well Ridgeway death was antimatic at its best.
Not even a unique dialogue.

Used incendiaries on him to burn him alive, that's like the most painful death possible.

Probably ive threw his ash to castle ruins too, so no true sons will give him a flag-wrapped funeral.

[gaunt ice]

Bliss final fight was in a helicopter,granted he’s a bit of a coward there but it’s way more interesting than a tank/rocket gunner hybrid

[gaunt ice]

after Division 1,the remnants of LMB has been absorbed into the JTF,so you'd think at least they'd have better weaponry

like,some tactical gear and more well armed instead of fighting the Black Tusk with...you know,a T-shirt and a plain rifle?

[spare arrow]

absorbed into the btsu

[gaunt ice]

well that's some of them though

they do join ranks with the JTF,others join the BTSU

[sleek plover]

I would gladly go rogue to hunt down former lmb within jtf

[gaunt ice]

redeeming is good though,it will be interesting to fight alongside them

they actually use proper tactics,way better than 50 robot dogs

the LMB's combat skill is so good that when they're absorbed into the BT,a lot of them go straight to BTSU

also their uniform is dope af

[tiny wraith]

Morning park and DTL

Morning Aspect

[sleek plover]

well let them die a fodder

[sleek plover]

They shall atone for their sins by their deaths and the cleansing flames of hell

[ashen jungle]

Ahem, what did we talk about?

[tiny wraith]

Good evening rivens

[viscid anvil]

Wait Rivens is still around? Well howdy

[gaunt ice]

Whazzup,welcome back.
they delayed the big update again,back to being a hermit

[ashen jungle]

hey Thanh, yeah I figured it was gonna get delayed.

[ashen jungle]

Yep, still around. Never really left, just went into observer-mode for a while.

and hey Saph.

[sick lantern]

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/netflixs-the-division-movie-will-finally-start-shooting-next-year/

[round sinew]

Holy shit, I forgot there was ever supposed to be a movie.

Man. I want to be excited for it, but I've seen too many live-action video game adaptations that just... Well, they could've been better.

But like, it's Division. They just need to make a cool action movie shoot 'em up and add some drones and stuff.

Just, like, John Wick but instead of a dog he has a robot dog. It's that easy.

[sick lantern]

true but it aint the 90s anymore; the witcher and arcane have showed that the genre isn't dead and the director seems like a good guy

[round sinew]

Arcane is animated, though.

Witcher, I haven't seen. I heard it's good, but two thoughts:

1. TV shows are way easier to adapt into because of the extra time you have to build plot
2. They're changing the actor that plays Geralt for next season, so tell me if that was a good choice or not when it comes out.

Witcher was also a book before a game.

But division should be easy. Just do an action movie and avoid exposition lore dumps.

I just don't want them to waste the potential and repeat the mistakes of Assassin's Creed.

[mighty zealot]

If they ever make that Division movie it's going to be trash lol

Name 3 good movies adapted from video games.

[round sinew]

Ratchet And Clank.

But that wasn't even live action lmao

[mighty zealot]

I meant live action yeah lol

[round sinew]

Uhhh.

Sonic?

[mighty zealot]

🤣

[sick lantern]

mortal kombat (the old one), detective pikachu

[mighty zealot]

My point is, video game movies are always horrible.

[round sinew]

Oh yeah, Detective Pikachu was good.

Uncharted and Mario I have high hopes for.

[mighty zealot]

The original mortal Kombat was good in that campy 90s way, but it still went way off course from the game

[gaunt ice]

Sonic was decent

[mighty zealot]

Great soundtrack, though. Dripping in early 90s techno jams

[round sinew]

I don't think you guys remember how poorly it was received on release. Mortal Kombat was so bad, it was just funny to watch.

[gaunt ice]

the new one or the old one?

[round sinew]

Yes

[mighty zealot]

Both lol. The new one was a hot mess

[round sinew]

Better than that Dragonball movie

[mighty zealot]

Hahaha facts

[round sinew]

I'm serious though. If they just Michael Bay the Division movie, it won't be too bad.

[mighty zealot]

Agreed, but Hollywood always finds a way to fup video game movies.

[round sinew]

Generic action film is all it needs to be.

[gaunt ice]

doesn't need to stand out,just need to work

[mighty zealot]

They'll either change the entire point, or go way too heavy handed with social commentary

[round sinew]

Yes.

[gaunt ice]

can't wait for SJWs to lose their shit over how the Scorpio is a war crime.

wah hah hah cry harder,you can't stop me from cheesing Legendary Rogues with it

[round sinew]

I don't need the entire lore of the universe pushed into the movie. And newcomers will hate that, too. Just make some Agent do some bad ass gun-fu and drone stuff and we're square.

[mighty zealot]

Doom

[sick lantern]

that sounds like it would suck ngl

[mighty zealot]

Doom is the only video game movie that wasn't absolutely awful.

[round sinew]

Which one

[mighty zealot]

Though it still went way off course

The one with the Rock and Eomer

[gaunt ice]

there's a Doom movie?

[round sinew]

That was a good movie

Not a good Doom movie, but a good movie

[mighty zealot]

Right? It was exactly what it needed to be.

[sick lantern]

If it was just a "generic action movie" it would be boring AF and a waste of the IP

[round sinew]

It would be a bigger waste to do what Assassin's Creed did

To be fair to them though, I'm not a director. I have no fucking idea how to make Assassin's Creed work in 90-120 minutes and make a good movie.

[gaunt ice]

there's a thin line between respecting the fanbase of the game the movie is based off and appealing to the large audience

[round sinew]

Probably just ignore modern day shenanigans, or ignore history shenanigans, and just do one or the other in the movie, not both. I guess.

[gaunt ice]

like,hey i wouldn't mind a retelling of Division 1 story,make a canon version of the Div1 agent we play as

[round sinew]

Most adaptations fail to do either, though. So if they're gonna do one, do the easiest one and go generic.

[mighty zealot]

They tried that with the Warcraft movie lol

[round sinew]

I forgot that existed. It was a hit though.

[mighty zealot]

In Asia. It tanked in the USA so bad that Blizz said if they bother making another one they'll only release it in Asia.

[round sinew]

Yeah. I was in China when it came out. Holy shit people were so hyped.

[mighty zealot]

I personally liked it, but I'm also a cheap date when it comes to movies.

[round sinew]

I just wanna see some generic white action man with an orange watch and drone beat up mercenaries and terrorists.

Make it as easy and straightforward as possible.

[sick lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1gKVuQ3Rk

[mighty zealot]

It should be a trilogy. First movie is from the perspective of Keener, watching how the government handles the DZ etc. Really help the viewer empathize with why Keener was so pissed.

Second should basically be the first game. Third should be down with Keener.

[round sinew]

Hahaha. No. We're not going back to fix Keener. They already dicked that up bad enough.

[gaunt ice]

give Keener the AAA treatment that he deserves.That sounds great

make up for whatever they did to him in WoNY

[mighty zealot]

I always thought the twist was gonna be that Keener knew about BT and Ellis' corruption and involvement with the Dollar Flu, which is why he was so hellbent on revenge. Nope, Keener was just a brat.

No redeeming ethos or philosophy. Just a good ol' fashioned terrorist who got his hands on a bomb.

[round sinew]

I just picture that South Park bit where George Lucas and Spielberg assault Indiana Jones.

That's what happened to Keener

[gaunt ice]

does it kill to make him just a vigilante like that one series of comms where he leads a couple out of NYC?

[round sinew]

Yes

[sick lantern]

Yes, because that's not the point of who he is

[round sinew]

You know it's bad when the Outcast leader is more empathetic as a character than the OG baddie Keener

[gaunt ice]

better than generic "wah society bad,bomb people go brr"

[round sinew]

^

"Boohoo, I got left behind so I'm gonna go full blown Apocalypse Now and nuke NYC again because JTF was mean to me."

[gaunt ice]

"You're the bad guy,but that doesn't mean that YOU'RE the bad guy."

[gaunt ice]

i feel like if anyone deserves it,that'd be the JTF above all

[sick lantern]

More like fullblown MGS2

[round sinew]

Half the Manhunt Rogues were more empathetic than Keener.

[gaunt ice]

like hey,Lady Two Face was cool

[round sinew]

A good portion of them were dudes and gals that just were in the wrong place at the wrong time and ended up with BTSU.

Sure, the other half of them were psychopaths.

[gaunt ice]

oh yeah,Jupiter

[mighty zealot]

Ugh, I never did that MH. Is the EMP sticky any good in the meta sense?

[round sinew]

In PVE? No.

In PVP? Also no.

[mighty zealot]

Lol

[late void]

Useful for disabling marauder drones for a bit

[gaunt ice]

tbf it's super useful in the final boss fight in Roosevelt Legendary but that's it i guess

[round sinew]

None of the DLC gadgets and specs are OP in any way. Which is a good thing in a balance sense, to avoid P2W

[gaunt ice]

i still want my flash sticky like div1

[mighty zealot]

What were the others? EMP sticky, Achilles Pulse, and what else?

[round sinew]

Well I still want mobile cover.

And tac link

[late void]

Heal trap

[round sinew]

And, uh, that reinforce cover ability

[late void]

And frag trap

[gaunt ice]

Heal Trap,Shrapnel,uhhh

[mighty zealot]

I have the Shrapnel Trap... That was from Schaefer right?

[gaunt ice]

yup,good ol Division fanboy

oh wait wrong guy,that was suppose to be Gavelson

[round sinew]

Bardock is based.

Best villain in Division

[gaunt ice]

who?

you mean Bardon?

[round sinew]

Bardon Shaeffer

[mighty zealot]

Best Division villain is obviously the Techno Drug Dealer

[round sinew]

Schaeffer is just a dad trying to do what he thinks is best. He isn't a psychopath or evil. Just a guy like you, on the opposite side of the war.

Honestly, he is better than the player. At least he questions things. The player is a soulless executioner.

[gaunt ice]

i don't think i have enough comms to know that

[gaunt ice]

SHD is pretty hypocritical when you think about it

[mighty zealot]

He orchestrated the destabilization of the US Govt lol

[late void]

Well, he certainly objected to blowing up the white House

[mighty zealot]

He had people assassinated, murdered, kidnapped, tortured

[late void]

Or risking the antivirals

[round sinew]

He's good at his job.

[mighty zealot]

Agreed, but I wouldn't say he's just a dad doing what he thinks is best.

[round sinew]

He spends the whole pre-Manhunt story wanting to avoid combat with SHD and JTF.

[gaunt ice]

and we commit war crimes on a daily basis so what's your point?

[mighty zealot]

He's an ambitious soldier.

A sin eater.

[round sinew]

A snake eater

A peacewalker

[gaunt ice]

im stillllll in a dreeeammm

just redid Wraith target and i was like:"since when did Harley Quinn become an Agent?"

[sick lantern]

BT are the Patriots and Keener is Solidus Snake. Razorback is Arsenal Gear

fight me

[round sinew]

Wraith is bae

[gaunt ice]

also Belfry got fucked over just because Schaeffer is a simp

his delivery never arrived lol

he sounds genuinely disappointed,and sad

[gaunt ice]

so where does MGR stand in here?

[round sinew]

Wraith is big tiddy goth gf and I want her to step on me and hit me with that foam grenade.

Holy Church of Wraith, open for worship.

[sick lantern]

Heartland probably lmao

[gaunt ice]

she's anything but big mommy milker

[round sinew]

She is and I refuse to hear criticism.

She is perfect in every way.

Best villain

[gaunt ice]

down b a d

[gaunt ice]

i feel like if there's ever a Division r34 you'd make the first one

since we're still on the topic of Rogue targets,Magnus is really chill

"can you just tell your sister to make mudshields for kneepads?"

[round sinew]

Oh lmaoi can't do art

I assure you there's Division r34 tho

[gaunt ice]

X to doubt

[sick lantern]

( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

[gaunt ice]

XXXXXXXXXXXXX

i mean,Division is not R6 where every new operator are just waifu material #1579

[mint citrus]

There is Division R34

But nothing too outstanding/substantial

[mighty zealot]

Yeah, what of it? You can't deny that tension between Kelso and Faye Lau

[mint citrus]

Bruh what do you mean

I'm genuinely curious

[mighty zealot]

Division Agents need love, too.

[mint citrus]

If anything the Cleaners have pretty good fanart imo

[mighty zealot]

Ain't nobody lining up to bang the Outcast's, that's for damn sure.

[sick lantern]

( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

[gaunt ice]

what have I done

[mint citrus]

Could the story have been different if Ubisoft had gone with the narrative the Black Tusk was spinning of the SHD being a rogue element?

They had the President

Really lean into the whole who can you trust deal?

[gaunt ice]

I think it has never been explained why Ellis just didn’t disavow the whole Division so he can legalize BT

They’re much nicer compared to the other factions tbh

They’re like the one opposing faction that doesn’t execute civilians

[sleek plover]

.... There are literal "public execution" event involving BTSU.

And naturally all public execution victims are innocent civilians, the BTSU kill them just for siding with JTF

BTSU are evil fascists, no explanations necessary

[cold bramble]

I recall there are a bunch of comms with Faye and Ellis where Schaeffer is complaining about the lack of some giant switch to flip that will announce "THE ENTIRE DIVISION IS ROGUE NOW"

[sleek plover]

this.... is essentially correct

I really hope I could go big boss

[gaunt ice]

There is?

[gaunt ice]

Nope,I’ve been walking all around DC and NYC now and I’ve yet to see one Public Execution involving BT

[sleek plover]

..... what? I see them like nearly every time after I wiped out all the true sons and cleaners

[gaunt ice]

Now I’m not saying they’re good,I’m saying that out of all the factions they seem to be more tame

And seriously we can go in depth about how they’re not exactly wrong but that’s a story for another day

[sleek plover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/fm1u1h/wth_now_heroic_public_execution_rewards_purple/

this reddit post

[gaunt ice]

Huh that’s new,I guess I’m one of the lucky folks

[gaunt ice]

Also can we talk about that crap loot

[sick lantern]

isn’t it outright stated that their rules of engagement let them consider anyone they want as hostile combatants

[full fox]

I bet those suiciders would love to join in!

[sleek plover]

Let's put a cleaner fanatic and a outcast cultist in a cage

have them woke up and explain who each other are, and watch them tear each other apart

[gaunt ice]

5 dollars say the cleaner will beat the shit out of the outcast,just because they have a literal flamethrower

[sleek plover]

they're both naked

[gaunt ice]

then it's RNG at this point,though Outcast might have the upper hand since some of them consists of ex police officers

gear on though?yeah Cleaners will clap Outcast so easy

[lucid zinc]

Bro the cleaners also consists of ex police

[gaunt ice]

Naw cleaners are city sanitizers,armed with flamethrowers to burn the dead corpses of people because burying and proper cremation is not enough

[sleek plover]

Either way, seeing both tyrants slap-boxing/Tysonesque earbiting themselves to death is going to be such a satisfying sight

[mighty zealot]

Nothing like a little bloodsport to distract from apocalyptic woes.

[sleek plover]

More like divine justice

[mighty zealot]

Divine, you say? Who is enforcing this "justice"

[sick lantern]

don’t

[gaunt ice]

he's gonna speak minecraft enchantment table,stop

[sleek plover]

So people i have a pitch

the division

in hawaii🌴

[lucid zinc]

ok

[mighty zealot]

All infected are thrown into volcanoes. Problem solved; back to Maintais.

[magic sail]

i mean, this was effectively joe ferro's plan in division 1, and look where that got him lol

[sick lantern]

hawaii is cool I wouldn't mind that

if they're not gonna give us snow then they might as well go full tropical

Alaska and Hawaii in that order is my wishlist for Div

[gaunt ice]

british division

british division

But seriously,they’ve made so many games in the UK they just might do division UK

[sick lantern]

I sincerely hope they don’t

they would make ISAC into an annoying twat like Bagley from WDL

every character would be obnoxious

[gaunt ice]

The Bt is gonna get beaten up by the cops for not having a license for the robot dog

[magic sail]

it doesn't really make sense narratively
the whole thing behind the Strategic Homeland Division that the writers leveraged for a narrative theme is that it pretty much goes against everything that American democracy is supposed to stand for (de-centralizing power from one individual or entity, having accountability and checks and balances, etc.), if you recall Paul Rhodes' whole rant from D1 about it
the UK doesn't have the same international reputation as a bastion of freedom and democracy, so it would be a jarringly odd and seemingly meaningless narrative direction

[gaunt ice]

...it's just a joke,of course SHD won't be in the UK,they're like the tacticool version of National Guard

[floral gull]

So the legendary Eagle Bearer

It’s original bearer was…from Agent Sawyer?

Come to think of it, she has another exotic themed around this sort of “tanking” while doing damage, sawyer’s knee pads

With a twinge of masochism I would say

[mighty zealot]

Lot of good it all did her, too.

Leg gone, daughter kidnapped, settlement on the brink of collapse.

[floral gull]

Yes, would these two items before her misfortunes, during, or after

[ashen jungle]

Naming a gun "bearer" after someone with 1 leg seems like a fairly mean joke lol.

[floral gull]

[ashen jungle]

🦵 .

[gaunt ice]

so why is it in...you know,Washington airport?

[gaunt ice]

so if you were to fight bad guys like Sawyer,you're gonna stay in one corner forever peeking out and pick off bad guys one by one.

sums up leggy runs fairly well

[ashen jungle]

hah, "leggy runs".

[floral gull]

[lucid zinc]

[hard crow]

Sawyer is a cool character ngl

[sleek plover]

yeah, dont forget to check out the sequel featuring huckleberry finn as protagonist

[violet jackal]

The divison in Seattle or Portland could be potentially interesting.

[full fox]

Or another section of NY

[sleek plover]

Damn I hate LMB

Also since we have schaeffer, I hope we can have torture minigame on him
with justin bieber songs

[gaunt ice]

damm that's inhumane,i get the Bardon is bad but...that's evil

[sleek plover]

thats the point!
Outcasts were stupid not to use them

Also I get the feeling that Natalya is actually going to be fat

[gaunt ice]

1.that's bodyshaming
2.ima bodyshame too and say she's skinny

[sleek plover]

I didnt meant she is fat in a negative context.
I said it because there arent many fat female villains in games lately.
Even that nazi woman from wolfenstein was skinny

[hoary halo]

im not sure if we're even going to see her face, let alone what she looks like entirely

[sleek plover]

I mean there are fat male villains who are genuinely evil and serious, like baron harkonnen from dune for example.

But genuinely evil and serious fat female villain? Maybe Suicide Squad's Amanda is one, but never seen one in games.

[gaunt ice]

i get that Division is a different universe than the rest of the clancyverse but i feel like

Hunters are a nod to Ghost Recon's Bodarks

[sleek plover]

So maybe... maybe natalya is the good place to introduce one

in the entire gamehood

[gaunt ice]

tbf Amanda is more than a fat shady CIA lady though

she can be skinny and the effects will stay,as being menacing most of the time

[sleek plover]

but still, there is a lack of serious fat lady villains, so. i thought natalya would make a great spot. to. introduce one

Ferros probably fat tho

[gaunt ice]

but...it's not necessary?

[sleek plover]

yeah, definitely not necessary

[gaunt ice]

i think that's just the thick armor,you can't sign up for Cleaners if you're super fat

[sleek plover]

making people. ruminate about unnecessary things is one of mt favorite joke tactics

[gaunt ice]

like,not the faction but the literal job before they go homicidal

[sleek plover]

I meant it like middle aged white guy fat, not full sumo

[gaunt ice]

ik but still,those equipments are heavy

[sleek plover]

I know some of the JTF police are gonna be fat cuz donuts

[gaunt ice]

that's why you don't have JTF juggernauts

they are kinda not fit enough to carry that load of equipment

[sleek plover]

If we had a friendly JTF faction going full archetype like the enemy ones, i think they would follow the true sons format with immobilizers etc

but they will be in full JTF green battledress

[gaunt ice]

the most realistic explanation is that the tank is a super muscular guy like the Tusk chunga

it's literally the same case with Boomer,the first boss in Dark Hour

[sleek plover]

Yeah he probably fat

I hope in div 3 or 4 they add functions to make our own settlements like sawyer did

we will have invasion defenses, milita training

and we can gro corns in our farm.

and we can make corn bread, corn mush, corn chowser, popcorn, Cornmeal, Corn Oil, Corn syrup, Corn vodka, Corn whiskey, Corn cereal, Corn Tortillas, Corn Cream, Corn Tamale, Corn Pozole, Corn Nut, Corndog...

and somehow Cornish game hens

[gaunt ice]

nope,he literally breaks the lifting record back when he was still in the US Army pre-outbreak

which explains how he's entrusted to carry such heavy equipments that even the strongest Tusk chungas have issues carrying them

[sleek plover]

So what if insteqd of killing that guy we force him to surrender by inserting some spiders inside his armor

[gaunt ice]

if you can then by all means,go for it

reminder:he's so strong one of his attacks can crush the armor plates inside your carrier and probably most of your bones with his raw strength

[sleek plover]

As if we have such option in game

[gaunt ice]

i wouldn't try to piss him off even more

[violet jackal]

Outcasts are likely the divison faction that makes the most sense on why they formed

[mint citrus]

Natalya built like Amanda Waller

[sick lantern]

the SUICIDE SQUAD vs the DIVISION

[mint citrus]

Point for Suicide Squad, tbh

They have King Shark

[lucid zinc]

We have shd turrets that r almost impossible to destroy

Like the one in dark zone

[sleek plover]

Whicg I agree wholeheartedly

[woven basalt]

king shark, in the movie, was pretty much bullet-proof, so idk how much it'd take to take him down.

[sick lantern]

dc wiki doesn’t actually say he’s bulletproof so it’s a matter of interpretation 🤔

[lucid zinc]

Iron horse the big di-

[woven basalt]

he's also substantially weaker in the harley quinn series, like substantially. far weaker than the comics.

apparently whats canon is he can withstand the pressures of the deep sea, and he has a healing factor, so maybe thats why they made him OP in the movie

[sleek plover]

damn I hate LMB

[sick lantern]

come to LMB we have pickles

[violet jackal]

What if we didn't kill Keener

As he's shown he can mess with the ai by showing new objectives and stuff. What's saying the moment someone takes his watch off. It doesn't automatically make Isac say Rogue agent Deceased

[sick lantern]

if Keener is still alive it’d be stupid

and the “rogue agent deceased line (and therefore the lack thereof) is not evidence

[violet jackal]

Consider how he manipulated isac.

Always check for a pulse. Even if the AI says he's Deceased.

[gaunt ice]

please no

Keener was ruined in WoNY as a character

[violet jackal]

Honestly. I feel we got baited and switched. We never saw Keeners face. So anyone who sounds like him can claim to be him.

It would be a very clever way to get the heat off.

[gaunt ice]

what does a person gain from impersonating Keener,a wanted rogue agent?

[hoary halo]

infamy

[gaunt ice]

So lemme get this straight:the whole selling point of Warlords of New York story wise is just so that you can fight an impersonator,that’s what you thought?

What is Keener’s master plan anyway?activate the rogue network and…destroy the world?For what?

It’s definitely not something Keener would do,but then again what WOULD he do by now?

[gaunt ice]

so after like,7 months i finally do the Lau manhunt

kinda a decent ending for her i guess,better than whatever they did to Keener

speaking of him,she said "i will bury you,just like i buried Keener"
you bitc-

the d2 agent killed him,she did jackshit

[cold bramble]

Hey would anyone want to play? I'm going for the platinum trophy for The Division. If you want to play or join me in my platinum playthrough DM me.

[hoary halo]

WORD

[sick lantern]

uh, yes we did

https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Missing_Agents

[violet jackal]

Also he looks way different in D2 compared to that oddly

[gaunt ice]

time flies

[sick lantern]

rhodes has a different voice actor but that doesn’t make him a different person pretending to be him

[late void]

Div 2 Rhodes is actually Keener in disguise

All part of his master plan

[gaunt ice]

and Kelso is just cosplaying Lau the entire time,of course

[sick lantern]

oh i can’t say “a5sh0l3” ig

it would explain why rhodes is such a stupid bellend

[gaunt ice]

wait a minute Keener's callsign is "Vanguard"?

[copper swallow]

Yes

[sick lantern]

I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to interpolate what happened to these agents by their descriptions

[violet jackal]

Who here thinks we actually killed faye?

[gaunt ice]

…we did?

There’s a whole mission about it

[late void]

just a flesh wound

[gaunt ice]

gets her head blown off
“Tis of a scratch.”

[sick lantern]

I honestly hope no other character comes back to life or faked their death or blah de fuckin blah

[sleek plover]

Happy new year guys

[gaunt ice]

it's already new year in Korea?

gratz i guess

[sleek plover]

still have a night left

[gaunt ice]

the tag for the Chill Out named mask has a quote by "Somebody that remembers you"

huh,wonder who that is

lemme remember

"Revenge is a drink best served cold."

[sick lantern]

keener not dead confyrmed

[gaunt ice]

hey remember that cancelled event,Codename Nightmare?
yeah they were gonna bring him back to life in that event

make sense innit?

[sick lantern]

zombie keener

[sick lantern]

"innit" means "isn't it", you were probably looking for "dunnit" 😤

[gaunt ice]

nah that's outdated,robotic Keener like the purple guy from FNaF,full robot suit alike

[gaunt ice]

i thought it means ain't it

i was experimenting with some slangs,trying to widen my vocabulary.thanks for pointing that out

[sick lantern]

"aint" is a more informal way to say "isn't" 👍

[gaunt ice]

fair enough

but really,can we see Keener in the Division movie?

doing actual Keener stuff instead of watching the whole Bond franchise and say "im gonna be a Bond villain!"

[sick lantern]

as we know the director says he likes the franchise so hopefully he understands how to make it for the fans whilst also not sucking

[gaunt ice]

i got flashbacks to when the black guy who plays L in the netflix death note live action said that he was really into the character beforehand only for the script to be completely trash

wait the upcoming Division movie is in no way related to netflix right?

[sick lantern]

Netflix are distributing it but I don't think they necessarily have any creative influence

[gaunt ice]

thank god

[sick lantern]

they'll call it a netflix original but they do that to everything they have exclusive distribution for even if they didnt make it

[gaunt ice]

i just thought of something

Division at best is a generic action piece of media,nothing that super stands out.So i think they'll either go full on developing Keener or make a canon d1/d2 agent

because i can't think of a way to introduce a whole new group of agents that we can't really care about

[sick lantern]

well I doubt they would cast jake gyllenhaal and have him never speak

[gaunt ice]

what happened to that dude anyway?

[magic sail]

it really could've been something better, honestly. division 1 at least has an interesting backdrop for a story (made ever more real by gestures wildly at global pandemic)

[sick lantern]

wdym?

[gaunt ice]

the Jake guy,the guy who played Mysterio in spiderman,what happened to the guy irl?

[gaunt ice]

i don't know if it's intentional or not but they literally gave d1 for free when covid starts booming out in 2020,that's some dark humor

[sick lantern]

He's... still around

[magic sail]

and division 1 has at least mildly interesting characters; kandel, rhodes, and benitez all feel more real as characters than, say, kelso and manny, mostly because you're seeing them in a crisis situation where everything is going to hell in a handbasket real quick

[gaunt ice]

oh i thought he got into some drama

[sick lantern]

eh I don't pay attention to celebrity news but nothing happened as far as I can tell

[gaunt ice]

but why did they decide not to cast him though?didn't they plan to go through with it?

[sick lantern]

he's still in the project

[gaunt ice]

what happened to Kandel after d1 anyway?

[gaunt ice]

uhhhh

[sick lantern]

she moved to Ann Arbor iirc

[gaunt ice]

and that's it?we never saw or heard from her ever again since then?

[sick lantern]

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/netflixs-the-division-movie-will-finally-start-shooting-next-year/

there's been no news about him leaving

[gaunt ice]

maybe im just dumb idk

[sick lantern]

that's most things in this series' plot so far

[gaunt ice]

i was hoping heartland would expand from that but i think they're going to somewhere more...humid?i think?

[sick lantern]

Heartland is set in New York State

[gaunt ice]

oh yeah i remember that leak now

i also remember a guy talking about how Heartland would link all of the other TC games together,which is...ok i guess?despite some logic flaws?

like,that also implies that GR Breakpoint and Division 2 happens at the same time,which is even less convincing after Breakpoint's new update

[sick lantern]

we wish lmao

[magic sail]

yeah, it's kinda sorta hard to imagine how one shoehorns the division into the greater ubisoft extended universe when there's a global pandemic that happened

[gaunt ice]

can't wait for them to put Sam on a wheelchair with 2 silenced gun like that old guy in the finale of Hitman Blood Money,fighting White Tusk robot dogs

[sick lantern]

well it would be pretty easy to just say that it happens after them all
but there's a tweet that says it's not connected to any of them which is a bit obnoxious imho

[gaunt ice]

i guess...since Ghosts are more for international operations we don't see them or have them being mentioned?

[magic sail]

tbh i'm fine with ubisoft not shoehorning in the division to everything else

not everything has to be the MCU just because you're greedy and want money

[gaunt ice]

same,i mean it'd be cool but the lore will be fucked up

reminds me of that mobile game where they just say "Bliss survived the helicopter crash and was forgiven by Sam" like what the fuck

[sick lantern]

true but Division feels enough like the bastard child they don't really care about, so it's sad to see it not get the level of attention that Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six and Splinter Cell get

[gaunt ice]

Hornet coming back is more convincing than Bliss surviving the Black Hawk crash into the fucking UN building and explodes into a fire ball

[gaunt ice]

im pretty sure they barely care about Ghost Recon anymore seeing the NFT shitshow

hol up

Division is the only game that they haven't put Sam in canonically.

oh god no

nononononono

what if