#division-universe

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tiny wraith
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Will be out in February

delicate condor
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hey, not sure if right place but I was looking to find as much as possible lore wise to the division series, I have been watching a lot of NGN on youtube but I was wondering if there was like a single place with collected information

sick lantern
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I don't think there is

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but feel free to ask anything you want 😉

delicate condor
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that is fair, got anything else other than youtube tho?

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I'd rather not have someone explain the whole lore here to me 😄

sick lantern
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the wiki is not entirely comprehensive so not that I know of

late void
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Once upon a time, there was a president who feared total social collapse...

delicate condor
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🤣

cold bramble
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Yeah, the Wiki is pretty out of date

sick lantern
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even some of the things in that aren't true

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like they scraped up some old concept material that didn't make it to release (which I think is literally what they did because I recognise one piece of concept art that's been used multiple times)

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I should really finish reading that at some point...

tiny wraith
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Or a current 1 that wants it🤔

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Hey DTR

cold bramble
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I had a chuckle reading the DARPA logs that unlocked with the Season 4 rerun. Although I'm worried that the incompetent colleague would walk away convinced that Seeker Mines are real and attempt to file a story to that extent if I mention it within earshot

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Underqualified for literally anything related to their job, so all they do is rewrite DARPA press releases in worse English

spare arrow
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dorkpa

sick lantern
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derpa

tiny wraith
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Hey aspect

cold bramble
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you know, that actually rolls off the tongue easier than my previous nickname for them of "The Fucking Undergrad"

sick lantern
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do you think Massive made DARPA a thing in the plot entirely of their own accord, or because it was a thing in Metal Gear and they wanted to reference it

cold bramble
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IMO if you go US centric speculative fiction involving the government, DARPA being name checked is pretty much inevitable. A hilarious amount of consumer tech in existence is due to something they tried at some point

spare arrow
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mental sear

sick lantern
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maybe but I hardly hear about it in games

spare arrow
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i mean as far as fiction goes darpa is p much the us militaries lil bich

cold bramble
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Ghost Recon Future Soldier has a scaled down version of their EXACTO guided bullets in use, down to the DARPA name check

sick lantern
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I just doubt it's a coincidence considering the other Metal Gear references

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somewhat

spare arrow
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everything is a mg reference

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Your clothes? Metal Gear.

woven basalt
spare arrow
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Your accent? Metal Gear.

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Your life? you guessed it, Metal Gear

sick lantern
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genius kojumbo

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the internet is a metal gear reference

spare arrow
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Kojima is very nice i appreciate him

woven basalt
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plus, another shorthand, mgs is so widespread that its easier to just use them as a ref to explain stuff.

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shared language.

sick lantern
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snake, this is a top secret black op
we have intel on potentially treasonous elements of the US government
we need you to infiltrate the darpa labs under the pentagon

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investigate projects under the code name "warhound", "marauder" and "black tusk"
this is a matter of national security!

cold bramble
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I mean, there was that robodog with a 6.5mm Creedmoore (fun fact, the Carbine 7 is chambered in this IRL) at AUSA

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If they weren't swamped with interview requests and my own backlog, I'd ask how many hours the team behind that has logged on Div 2

sick lantern
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AUSA?

woven basalt
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association of the US army, but it's more specifically referencing the convention.

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ausa 2021 con.

full fox
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if anyone has the time to put some effort in putting their name on it XD

sick lantern
cold bramble
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Yeah, apparently the same company took the dog to a French defense expo currently going, no rifle this time though

sick lantern
cold bramble
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mfw drive by'ed by the roller skate Warhound

sick lantern
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rollerhound

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skeeter

gaunt ice
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they see me rollin'
they hatin'

tiny wraith
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Morning DTR

sleek plover
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Morning SaphittySaphSapherstine

tiny wraith
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evening DTL

sleek plover
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armed with 2 smg

full fox
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how about Outcast Suicider on rollerblades

sick lantern
tiny wraith
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Morning DTL,DTR

sick lantern
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mornung

near ibex
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He became gatto

delicate condor
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mornin

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I hate being at work rn, I feel sick af and just want to do research on lore 😄

sick lantern
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the best way to research the lore is to play the games

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and yaknow you gotta work to afford vidya so don’t feel too bad about it

delicate condor
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been sinking a good amount of hours in div2 right now, gotta replay div1 afterwards

slate cloak
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What are some notable division agents outside of the games, and in this "extended universe?"

woven basalt
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most recently? hoskins, i guess.

sick lantern
cold bramble
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There's that Simon Keyes guy from Operation ISAC

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Although that only tenuously counts as that was publicity for a series of Division 1 quests

sick lantern
sick lantern
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fun fact one of them is played by Larae Barret's actor

spare arrow
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larae barret was a figment of ur imagimation

sick lantern
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mass hysteria

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caused by the need for barret's chest

sleek plover
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Larae had a good message, too bad its just an excuse to gain power

sick lantern
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not getting into this argument again

tiny wraith
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Evening DTL,DTR and Aspect

sleek plover
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Good morning SapphittySaphSapherstine

sleek plover
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U know the strongest people among the JTF

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are provably the former IRS guys

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those guys are tenacious as fcuk

sick lantern
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“Division agents traditionally focus on developing expertise in all three basic tactical postures: offensive, defensive and support. But after developing baseline skills in each posture, most agents begin to specialise in one area.”
Tank, healer and DPS are canon in The Division 🤔

gaunt ice
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aren't those more tech-oriented aspects?

sick lantern
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considering how much other gameplay stuff they mention (namedropping the medved as being special for having slugs, saying that div 1’s weapon damage stat on gloves was due to specialised grips) I’d say no

woven basalt
gaunt ice
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How does a grip increase weapon damage anyway?logically speaking

viscid anvil
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who else thinks about the upcoming netflix Division movie and thinks "okay this at least a somewhat cool time to be alive"

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ive seen soooo much negativity in the div community regarding the movie but i am so gosh damn excited for it

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we're getting Jake Gylenhaal and Jessica Chastain IN A FREAKIN DIVISION MOVIE come on who else is hype

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anyone? is there anyone in the official discord for The Division that can back me up in my hype for the expansion of this universe?

gaunt ice
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I think…nobody talked about it anymore,it’s probably on delay for a while due to covid now

viscid anvil
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yeah but its on now! the director, Marshall Rawson Thurber, did a youtube interview just this summer about how excited he was to direct it

gaunt ice
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There’s no announcement or a teaser just yet,just a “hey division movie is a thing now”

viscid anvil
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i mean the writer tweeted a pic of the official script with a division watch on it

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and no one cared

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makes me sad tbh

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it sucks being a fan of something when almost no one else is, truly

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i was hype for a minute there about the div movie but no one else is apparently. no mention on the official reddit or even the netflix reddit

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cant even rally support in the official discord, smh

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my friend bought me a hard cover copy of "The World of The Division" for my birthday and it made me really happy

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shame that passion isnt here really

late iron
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A lot of people enjoy the Division universe they're just not here to talk about it lmao

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Scroll up and you can see people talking about ordering the books

viscid anvil
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i mean, yeah i can find the three, maybe four, folks that shared my enthusiasm

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i figured the extended-universe channel in the official discord would be that place to talk about it

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like you said, people arent talking about it

late iron
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That's only 3 or 4 we know of, not many people in this official discord really talk anyways aside from the main people or a few odd messages

viscid anvil
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therein lies the shame for such a brilliant game

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but thank you

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at least someone is even willing to comment

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feels like reading a love letter in a grave yard

late iron
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Lmao

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Don't get me wrong the games great and all but it's not really gonna be active with all the stale content

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We have only heard tad bits about Heartlands which might get things going but it's hard to tell really

woven basalt
late iron
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^

woven basalt
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its kinda rough.

viscid anvil
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maybe thats my point. im truly trying to understand how i feel rn. like you said, you've already talked about it. is this game/project so small that it can be covered in a single conversation? among a dozen or less people i assume

woven basalt
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there isnt even much to talk about with the "new content"

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and thats supposed to release pretty soon

viscid anvil
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this story is so well done, so poignant, so relevant, im truly at a loss when it comes to Massive's oversight

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but it's very telling when the official source for conversation surrounding the film is DOA because "we've talked about the movie"

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no one wants to speculate? guess who will play Faye Lau?

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this is the most depressing fandom, right? like is anyone here actually excited

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i almost feel like my experience with the movie will be the same as the game. i cant get anyone to engage with the content, and the ones who do arent impressed

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shame shame shame

viscid anvil
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ill shift gears. anyone else think that animated WoNY trailer from a couple years ago was DOPE AF?

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netflix movie is one thing but plz gib that animated series! maybe a side series about the actual WoNY or something

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love the drone animation in that one

woven basalt
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not sure if i saw that (i think i did), but maybe. part of the ubi/netflix deal involved an animated project for far cry.

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though, tbh i'd prefer if they did cg vids like the ones they do for r6

viscid anvil
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on my drive home from work i started fan-casting Theo Parnell

viscid anvil
sleek plover
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I think maybe keener is the one

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who cane up with rogue thieves den system

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theo probably had his own thieves den all teched up too

woven basalt
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oof, nevermind, thats just the TCES interpretation,

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personally, i'd like alfred enoch for it.

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even though he's prettier than theo is.

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going another direction, ray santiago could also kill it, especially with any comedic dialogue.

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hmm.... the guy who played kang the conqueror in loki could also kill it too.

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but off the top of my head, those 3 in that order.

tiny wraith
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Night DTL

sleek plover
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good evening sapherstinius

sick lantern
sick lantern
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so unless you wanna talk about leaks...
(don’t do that I don’t think it’s allowed)

sick lantern
gaunt ice
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but Theo is also a first wave agent,no?

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and he can make for an interesting character if done right though

sick lantern
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theo wasn’t in div 1 so it depends on how much they want to add from div 2, and how much they’re willing to risk permutating it into not being div 1 any more
like the mortal kombat movie (the old one) was almost entirely characters from the first game but one from mk2; if they were to add to much stuff from the sequel then the identity of the movie would be a bit murky

gaunt ice
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i mean,if it acts as a prequel to the dark zone fiasco then Theo can be a character there too,just being your regular friendly agent helping people out while conducting his own agenda of finding out who killed his dad

sick lantern
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i sincerely doubt they’re making a movie about the first wave, rather than the stuff we actually see in game

cold bramble
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A problem with doing stuff about the NYC First Wave is that we know what happens to nearly all the agents

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Also it reminds me how there's a weird time crunch issue with Parnell: tech is evidently advanced enough when he was in college to hack his professor's car and crash it, yet he's now 29(?) with a career as a US Navy drone pilot

gaunt ice
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I mean,this is a world where in 2016 you have these guys with orange wristwatch running around with all sorts of weaponry that makes the National Guard look like amateurs

ashen jungle
gaunt ice
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i thought it was confirmed by the devs at some point

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i still remember the speculation about the Summit's poster around 2025-2030 but on Ubi's twitter in 2016,one of the promotional material for div1 is a newspaper with the year 2016 on it

sick lantern
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what newspaper? you mean in the world of the division? or something else

gaunt ice
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it's an old tweet on ubi's twitter,can't pinpoint the exact time but i think it was shared on this channel before

sick lantern
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oh this?

gaunt ice
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yup,beautiful

sick lantern
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eh

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pretty sure if the year was that concrete there’d be more reference to it in game somewhere

gaunt ice
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sure,but the Division was hyped up way back in 2014,so it's still possible to take it as canon

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most of our techs are made by DARPA,hence why in div 2,your phone still looks pretty...old.like,2016-2017 ish phones(you can see it by using the selfie emote)

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and yes,i get that a phone model doesn't make much sense but we looked at a random poster in Summit and theorised the year so...it is possible

sick lantern
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we have had this exact argument before

gaunt ice
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dude you actually dug through 7 months of discord message history?gg

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fineeee,i guess it's 2025

sick lantern
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just looked for messages from certain individuals with the right keywords

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:^

sick lantern
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what does ANNA stand for? 🤔

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Analytic Neural nnnn...Nonpartisan?Xd Assistant

ashen jungle
cold bramble
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yeah the NOA exhibit for a manned Mars landing completed in 2018 seems to suggest a soft retcon of the 2015 setting

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Otherwise, man is it going to suck for those astronauts when they get back

sick lantern
sick lantern
gaunt ice
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space Cleaners

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😦

gaunt ice
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you know that you really didn't have to delete that right?

ashen jungle
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I choose to.

gaunt ice
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Now you sound really mad.I screwed up again?

ashen jungle
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What are you on about?

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nvm, I regret I asked.

gaunt ice
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Nothing,I just feel like I did something wrong for you to say that

woven basalt
ashen jungle
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I feel the smartest thing the movie could do is tell a side-story in the same universe, and not try to re-create the game.

woven basalt
ashen jungle
woven basalt
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just skimmed through the new news, didnt see anything about heartland.... not a good sign 😕

ashen jungle
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this was all about div2, Heartland is an entirely different game.

dusk dove
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^^

woven basalt
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(the emoji says "confused" but i mean it as "slight disappointment")

ashen jungle
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it'd be like expecting news about Battlefield in a CoD update.

woven basalt
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thats a super unfair comparison, lol.

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theyre both division games, those two are two different companies

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like DC and Marvel.

spare arrow
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i mean

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it was a division 2 update notification

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not a heartland update notification

dusk dove
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yup ^^

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if it was a "ubisoft update" then yea hearthlands news makes sense.

woven basalt
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not arguing that part, i was talking about the comparison.

spare arrow
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oh ok

woven basalt
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its not like i was asking about x-men in a justice league server

dusk dove
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comparison is correct tbh. since it was specifically a Div 2 update and heartlands isnt Div 2.

ashen jungle
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^
Totally different games, the most unfair part about the comparison is that Heartland isn't the same genre as Div2.

woven basalt
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with heartland, i just want them to tell us the stuff we already know, so we can finally talk about it.

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it's been... what? 5 months since?

dusk dove
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Well, heartlands is still on track (2021-2022 release) so that still has time. Div 2 content they needed to announce since it was for late 2021 and we are already there.

woven basalt
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the december event sounds cool.

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im pretty happy with the div2 news.

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i was worried about a delay, but a december event rolling down to the january release sounds amazing.

dusk dove
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Feb release not Jan. but yea Dec event sounds interesting.

woven basalt
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oh, january is just a "reveal". i see.

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my bad.

woven basalt
# viscid anvil absolutely yes

btw, the "blood dragon" remix is actually a remix of all the ubi-IPs, so we might get some nod to the division, but most likely... not worth watching if just for that.

tawny echo
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I like how this update didn't say anything at all. The only thing I got from that was "oh you, you guys are still here? I guess we can give you something next year."

sick lantern
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d e l a y e d
the ubisoft guarantee

late void
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well, they gave us a date to expect more info, that's a big improvement

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everyone was beginning to suspect they'd just quietly binned the whole idea

woven basalt
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reveal in january, release in feburary. supposedly.

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unless they say otherwise in the interim

tawny echo
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I think what happened was, someone reminded them that they made promises publicly that would would add contact by the fall. Remember how it was going to be big and epic and needed two calendar seasons to create it all but vague on what that content will be. And now that fall has arrived all they have is a push back date and more vagueness around content. I don't think they have done anything up until this point 🙂

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I will take any new contents don't get me wrong. But I don't think it's honest to be saying they have been working on something when it shows they haven't.

woven basalt
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i highly suspect the updates (that recently caused some pretty nasty bugs) were related to whatever theyre cooking up.

late void
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...that depends on what it is, they were a new team taking on a big existing game with quite possibly a hideous pile of spaghetti code, so maybe they've been working on getting it sorted out to make future updates easier

tawny echo
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and there are ALOT of bugs.

late void
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The fact that when they started the season reruns they couldn't even succeed in making the game show the correct season name (despite a patch claiming to do exactly that) suggests to me that the underlying code must be pretty difficult to work with

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...or they're appallingly incompetent, or course (hopefully not though)

viscid anvil
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im here to eat crow, i let my faith waiver the day before this glorious news

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thank you Div 2 dev team, my day is immeasurably better

sleek plover
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does crows taste good?

full fox
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"Nah, thats not a bird, thats a stick" - CP civilian.

slate cloak
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So exotic weapon lore counts right?
Why is backfire outfitted in spikes? (other than the reason why you bleed on reload)
What's in the canister of Chatterbox?
What exotic has the most lore out of the rest?

cold bramble
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Backfire: The Outcast that made it either is a masochist or really likes barbed wire and spikes in general. Or both.

Chatterbox: It's Spice

sleek plover
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I somehow get the feeling that BTSU, the Black Tusks Specialist Unit is not necessarily the elites among them, but merely a name for their armed division. The rest can be just business guys pushing papers.

ashen jungle
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Yep, Chatterbox and Coyotes Mask are both filled with Spice.

full fox
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So technically you can have curry coming out of your weapon and mask? 😂

ashen jungle
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wrong uh, wrong kinda Spice.
as you may have guessed via the proper noun, "Spice" is a term in Div2 for the drugs the Hyena's make and use.
e.g. Hyena Rushers take a hit of it before they charge you.

full fox
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true but it be nice

slate cloak
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I suspected that
I knew that green mist coming out of the mask and canister

gaunt ice
sleek plover
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Well considering they are PMC, calling themselves as specialist units is a great marketing point.
Also, we have not encountered "non-specialist" bt so far in our game. And considering they are PMC their numbers would be limited than the standing army.

sick lantern
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when they’re doing a recruitment drive or something

sleek plover
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You mean the recruit mission?

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Thought they were more of a recruit rather than BT regulars

sick lantern
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ask the wiki ¯_(ツ)_/¯

ashen jungle
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weirdly, one of the few uses the Wiki actually has.

cold bramble
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Invaded Manning National Zoo is testing BT regulars for the BTSU.

This largely goes unnoticed due to the obnoxious amount of mortar spam and the instadeath shock traps in the final room

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Invaded Camp White Oak was testing a bunch of the named bosses freshly recruited to the BTSU. This promptly fails after Tails snaps

sick lantern
late void
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My impression was that the vast majority of the BT you fight are 'regulars', with only the named bosses being BTSU

gaunt ice
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i do think it is possible to put White Tusk in as part of BTSU,as like a higher level task force/platoon

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but in canon,i do think all of the Tusks who showed up at Bardon's manhunt at Coney Island can be considered as BTSU too

tiny wraith
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Afternoon DTL and DTR

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Might have to add kettle

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Yes I'm lazy

cold bramble
ashen jungle
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not an Exotic, but best weapon lore will always be the Claws Out.

tiny wraith
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Where do you get it

ashen jungle
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Named Item Caches, or the DZ.

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it's a Holster from Wyvern'.

spare arrow
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until it is done

tiny wraith
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Tyvm

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Afternoon Aspect

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And hopper

spare arrow
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actually its midday

ashen jungle
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nope, its 3am.

late void
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6pm here

woven basalt
# sleek plover You mean the recruit mission?

just watched a playthrough to see if they make that distinction... not really. when they just say "black tusk", they mean the organization at large (which jives with the rest of the wikia article). they're definitely recruits that want to be full fledged SU members (according to dialogue from.... i think beta team).

woven basalt
sick lantern
spare arrow
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ok

ashen jungle
round sinew
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New Breakpoint DLC 👀

spare arrow
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Is it actually dlc or is it just an update?

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Wait thats the same thing

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Is it paid dlc or just an update

round sinew
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Seems to be free. I haven't seen any mention of a price point, but I could be mistaken.

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But I consider it good news, since it's not Heartlands or XD content and it seems like it'll be fun. So maybe that's a good indicator some other Ubi titles will be getting updates soon, like D2.

spare arrow
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I mean, div got a "hey the content is there, see it in january play it in february"

tiny wraith
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@round sinew it's free

round sinew
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Very based

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Time to fight Hunter-I mean Bodark.

tiny wraith
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Nov 2

round sinew
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Totally different organizations.

tiny wraith
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You know someone added missing content to breakpoint

round sinew
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You mean every update since release?

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In a very cynical point of view, all DLC is missing content.

tiny wraith
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No its a side main mission,parts of the story now make sence

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Its an orange mission

sleek plover
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🟠

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oranges

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the new corn

tiny wraith
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Hey DTL was talking about the mission they added in breakpoint,which should have been there in the beginning.

sleek plover
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so oranges

near ibex
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I’m hoping it’s free since I bought the year pass if it’s paid

dusk dove
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year pass wont apply to it, if it is a paid DLC. year pass was only for that 1st year bonus stuff

tiny wraith
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Afternoon rake

tiny wraith
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Looks like next year for content,but look for the PTS server

kindred pelican
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very strange Red storm gives no updates on Heartland

ashen jungle
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Well this is a Div2 Official Discord, and Heartland is not Div2.
hope that clears things up!

dusk dove
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^^

kindred pelican
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thats not hostile at all rgr

ashen jungle
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Oh I'm never hostile on this server.

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just a simple fact. Different games. Heartland is a spin-off of sorts, but it's not "Div2: Heartland".

sick lantern
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but this channel is called "extended universe" which heartland is most certainly part of

ashen jungle
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Correct, however this channel being a sorta hub for all Div lore does not mean that the separate tweets channel should have non div2 updates.
I'm sure they might throw one in there eventually, but not today.

sick lantern
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no one mentioned the tweets channel

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they just said it's odd there's been no word on Heartland

ashen jungle
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Correct, and that's where updates are announced to us.

dusk dove
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TBH its not odd, that’s theres no update on hearthlands. Its schedule was announced as 2021-2022 so still on track for that. Div 2 content update was toward the end of its schedule so they needed to announce it.

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FYI when ever a game company gives you a range (IE 2021-2022) 99% of the time it’s the later date that’s true.

woven basalt
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i hope april (in-person or in-echo) shows up in one of these things.

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think shes gonna end up a big boss-esque badass

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(....the original big boss)

tiny wraith
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There dropping breakpoint tuesday

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New dlc

kindred pelican
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cool

tiny wraith
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And just to annoy you they added a forgotten orange mission, which should have been at the beginning

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Which dropped 4 days ago

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Hey hopper

woven basalt
woven basalt
tiny wraith
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No internet no computer

woven basalt
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damn, i know that feel

tiny wraith
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I enjoyed playing Heartland

woven basalt
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i pray it does well, i think taylor is cool.

sick lantern
sick lantern
woven basalt
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shes one of the devs, i dont wanna say the head dev for heartland (because i don't know her title).

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but it seemed like it.

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(lost wifi inbetween posts, lol)

sick lantern
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oof I know that feeling

tiny wraith
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Hey DTR

sick lantern
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ohhhhhhh

sick lantern
tiny wraith
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Nope lol

sick lantern
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thank you for saying hello all the time Im sorry for not saying anything back 🥺

tiny wraith
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Those I see alot and frequently I'll say hello to

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Lol no prob

sick lantern
woven basalt
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that sounds like it would be dope as the netflix movie's end credit music

sick lantern
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feels more like trailer music

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which is probably because it kind of is

woven basalt
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yeah, thatd be dope too

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get that hype going

tiny wraith
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I like the songs better

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It was a decent rap

sick lantern
#

there's a lot of good division fan songs

tiny wraith
#

Yup

sick lantern
woven basalt
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dang, didnt even know there was a scene for this.

sick lantern
sleek plover
#

I wonder whats happening at rhode island

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did peter griffin survive?

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or is the place now infested with armed quakers shooting oat rifles

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and oatmeal sprays like flamethrowers

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and clamshell grenades

tiny wraith
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Morning DTL

ashen jungle
#

PSA: Heartland officially delayed until 2023, no real shock but plan accordingly.

tiny wraith
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I mean it is supposed to be free to play

woven basalt
#

i had a feeling that was the case.

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hopefully that means they'll have the time to get it just right.

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considering it should be a good gateway to get players into the main series of games.

viscid anvil
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my bfffff got me The World Of The Division hard cover edition....MAN there is so many cool aspects to this franchise/story

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like, learning Operation Dark Winter was a very real thing

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so cool!

nimble loom
#

i was hoping Heartland WAS the new Div 2 mode and paying players could stomp the F2P's haha

tiny wraith
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I enjoyed playing heartland

sick lantern
#

when it was announced

woven basalt
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especially since that article talked about both heartland and the new content.

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as different things.

tiny wraith
#

Hey DTR and hopper

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The time was supposed to be now would be new update, next year defiant, then f2p Heartland

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And then maybe D3

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Next november

woven basalt
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wonder what will come out first, xdef or heartland.

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i just hope xdef will have more div lore outside of being a farther future than the division.

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though im kinda putting too much hope in that, from the get go, it was marketed as "a clash of universes" rather than a shared (and familar) one.

tiny wraith
#

Xdef

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Xdef is a combination of all the tomclancy games based like csgo

woven basalt
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i know all about xdef, game mechanic-wise, but what i want is more lore-wise.

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what we know is just something one of the content creators mentioned in a video: that it's in a farther future than the current division games.

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which is interesting, but understandably limiting.

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(unless the future of the main division games has already been plotted, which is hard to believe)

sleek plover
#

Laser weapon for new specialization?

sick lantern
#

;3

gaunt ice
#

don't forget GR!

sick lantern
#

which one’s that again

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or are you making a joke about my typo

gaunt ice
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im not Rivens,don’t worry

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and yes I also made a typo when I wrote that out because I genuinely thought you forgot about ghost recon

sick lantern
#

Tom Clancy’s Fhost Recon
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Cecon

woven basalt
sick lantern
#

ES was its own thing, with a bit of stretching XD could actually fit into canon

woven basalt
#

xdef is already in its own timeline, but we can always hope there will be solid lore.

sick lantern
woven basalt
#

confirmed by a content creator that was part of the design process.

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in an officially sanctioned video

sick lantern
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I am coping rn

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that is a bit lame tbh

woven basalt
#

there is a chance he didnt really understand the setting though.

#

he's a CoD guy, not really a TC guy.

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but thats the working theory (until they release more info about the world)

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for example, he describes the outcasts with "reggae, dreadlocks".

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so theres a chance he doesnt really know the division universe enough to say if it's current or farther future.

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but farther future would probably explain why both cleaners and outcasts are using SHD tech.

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hmm... im thinking maybe i used the wrong term before, my bad.

cold bramble
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I mean there's always the heroic bounty targets that lob SHD tech at you if you let them

woven basalt
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im just wondering if the color of their brick in xdef means anything.

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hmm nvm, could still be orange because it's hacked, i guess.

woven basalt
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lol, it'd be super cool if there was some kinda "spice" event/thing in the new content.

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imagine if the content came out as originally scheduled, it'd be too perfect to do a nod as the dune movie released.

tiny wraith
#

I want the RPD event house at kenely colledge

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They need to drop it tommorrow

sick lantern
spare arrow
#

remember the resident evil event? yeah it was supposed to come with a mode @ kenly

sick lantern
#

oh yea ofc

woven basalt
#

so you should know about it.

sick lantern
#

well codename nightmare was going to be a thing
but because it just sort of stopped existing it fell out of my memory including the details :p

sick lantern
#

since XDefiant is about villains I wonder if they’ll add the USS XD

slate cloak
#

DARPA Lore?
Cuz I've seen that it's been involved in making exotic gear like Scorpio and Chameleon

sick lantern
gaunt ice
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I think they made the experimental tech for SHD but someone leaked the unfinished models out for the Tusk

gaunt ice
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Also when did they say the Scorpio was made by DARPA?cuz I’m pretty sure that breaks the Geneva Convention about chemical warfare

tiny wraith
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Dude the stuff we make in real life would scare people if they actually knew

spare arrow
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@gaunt ice its in the description of the scorpio my guy

gaunt ice
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huh,gotta check it again

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thanks boss

woven basalt
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"...developed in conjunction with DARPA failed to get approved due being in contravention of the Hague Convention of 1899."

sleek plover
#

I hope they return some of the div 1 exotics again

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loke liberator, Pakhan or big alejandro

slate cloak
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Or idk

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I mean all the enemy factions are war criminals because civilian executions

full fox
#

So if I ignore a public hostage execution in the game, does that count?

slate cloak
#

I mean
You only do the missions if you need the bounties, to raise a checkpoint's level, or need something for your projects

full fox
#

I see

sick lantern
gaunt ice
#

that's why i said they're prototypes,like maybe they want to make a mini robot dog like the one in battlefield 2042?

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and Marauder drone is an oversized combat drone,so it's safe to say they're the predecessor to the agent's combat drone

sick lantern
sick lantern
sick lantern
sleek plover
#

Nothings more satisfying than a area map with all-green control pts

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And since I never let any one of them ever fall to true sons post me shredding their general's body into dog food and farm compost, they are gonna be especially pissed.
Especially since I pissed on it beforehand.

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Imagine them whining out of despair! It could have been so delicious. I hope the same happened to LMB remnants prior to BT merger.

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.....and here I am,now done with the magnus quota and endlessly mass producing T821 to find the perfect stats.

slate cloak
#

Any lore about the raids in Division and Division 2?
Especially on Morzova and her Iron Horse, and the Razorback (dunno much about Div. 1 raids)

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Oh in division 1 they're called Incursions

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Dragon's Nest (literal firetruck)
Falcon Lost (Remaining LMB and their APC)
Clear Sky (Rikers got a SAM site)
Stolen Signal (Rikers strike again)

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gaunt ice
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and the whole foundry is the True Sons dismantling this artillery and putting it on a train they also found somewhere,which they will use to bomb the white house

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the Razorback is a prototype of a mobile drone station that can deploy multiple combat drone,think of it as a bee hive but for killer drones.they also appear in Keener's final fight in WoNY,where Bard deploys them to stop the agents and hunt down Keener

full fox
#

After playing 30 games of that raid, it was the first time I saw the raid fail when the cannon destroyed the whitehouse in the distance XD

slate cloak
#

Okay yee I watched through the Iron Horse lore vid

sick lantern
slate cloak
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apparently Morozova is "robotic"
in the sense that she barely shows any emotions, and has shown immense strength at times
Grey is a bigshot former surgeon who has bodyguards with nanite-enhanced (and comically large) shields
Fieser is a former fireman who's pretty wreckless with his flamethrower (oddly enough he reminds of the cleaners)
Williams is really royal to Morozova, to the point where he's "morally blind" with seeker mines

gaunt ice
full fox
gaunt ice
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bold of you to assume i have a proper raid team

late iron
#

Just do solo then

gaunt ice
#

raid
solo
Choose one

late iron
#

Both

willow current
# late iron Both

It's not possible to get to IH boss 4 on normal and discovery will take months of practice

round sinew
#

Hot take time

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I want a div game that isn't a MMO looter shooter

late iron
gaunt ice
round sinew
#

Please, never give me Breakpoint ever again.

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Or Wildlands, for that matter.

gaunt ice
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It wasn’t that bad,especially after the overhaul.
But I’ve yet to play any of the previous Gc titles so idk,all I know is that it emphasizes on stealth.I just like the freedom of approach

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but the giant robot thing in breakpoint seriously look like some Division rejects,how tf am I supposed to go stealth against that thing?

ashen jungle
round sinew
#

I'll play it

ashen jungle
#

trying to remember my pitch now, but I think it was centred around you choosing what Faction to work with and shaping the story around that.

flat otter
tiny wraith
#

With 4 people that know what there doing

idle swan
ashen jungle
#

bingo.
although knowing games that allow you to play as the "bad guy", you'd be chased by an even worse villain.

full fox
#

Sounds like Fallout4

ashen jungle
#

I thought I explained it alright there, but I guess not.

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I was saying that's every game that lets you play as a bad guy.

late void
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That's just asking for counter examples! Dungeon Keeper had you fighting against heroes, for one. I'm struggling to think of any others off the top of my head, but I'm sure they exist

full fox
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there was that one game that lets you fight against the us military but it got taken off the market/production

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would infamous count? like having the bad ending?

sick lantern
full fox
#

I only saw the news of it but it was ... weird it got taken down

late iron
sick lantern
full fox
#

as I said, no idea about the title, it was just where you play as the, middle eastern group starting with t, and you get to || 'take down' || the us military

sick lantern
full fox
sick lantern
full fox
#

you nvr know when the government is watching 😂

ashen jungle
late void
#

Some more examples: Postal, Hitman maybe?, all the GTA games, probably the Saints Row ones too?

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I'm half inclined to add in the Rollercoaster Tycoon series too, although you have to be quite imaginative to play the evil path in those

full fox
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Those count as bad guys winning?

ashen jungle
#

I kinda gotta agree with Dura' there. Those aren't really you being the villain, more about commentary about modern life.

  • Hitman you get paid to do it lol.
cold bramble
#

The Hezbollah video game probably depends on whether you believe they're the good guy or bad guy

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(The developers certainly feel like they're the former)

ashen jungle
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okay gonna have to google that one.
but this is pretty off-topic either way.

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oh dear god, i regret googling that.

sick lantern
ashen jungle
#

oh sure, there's almost always some conspiracy illuminati plot thing in it.
tbh Div kinda has a problem with that, it always feels very small, the scale of it.

round sinew
#

Just turn Division into an Assassins Creed game.

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The old ones. Not the new ones.

sick lantern
#

and the plot would die even harder lol

ashen jungle
#

oh god, imagine Desmond-level plot in div2.

round sinew
#

Deal.

cold bramble
#

What does she find? Why does she decide to just shoot ||Ellis||?

round sinew
#

Because Ellis is a fucking traitor.

ashen jungle
#

I guess she found out that he was working with Black Tusk.

round sinew
#

Faye being rogue is the 2nd dumbest plot device in Division.

ashen jungle
#

i mean, she wasn't. She only pretended to be to get close.
dumb? Yes. But I get it.

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tbh the entire thing about dragging back up div1 plotlines into div2 just annoyed me. I genuinely liked the div2 stuff and wish they had just built off that.

sick lantern
#

flip flopping between both was the problem

round sinew
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I half get it.

ashen jungle
#

If they had just wrapped it up fully with WONY I would've been okay with it.

round sinew
#

I wish there'd been more explanation tbh

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Ellis was a traitor, but Faye had to go "rogue" to get close to him, so she's also a baddie, but not really.

#

What a waste of a plot line.

ashen jungle
#

Faye was clearly gonna die no matter what, just have her die in a cutscene at the end stopping Keener, would wrap it up nicely in a thematic bow.

round sinew
#

The fact the player character has no agency and is just a soulless executioner is a limitation of the MMO-RPG genre.

ashen jungle
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would also help the conspiracy nut tech guy running Haven see Agents as "good" again, ya know. That old thing.

ashen jungle
round sinew
#

Would've been nice, yeah.

ashen jungle
#

"Uldren is mine", still gives me chills.

round sinew
#

But nobody in the entire game questions Faye's motives. Everyone including the PC just go "red watch bad" and kill her on sight.

cold bramble
#

Yeah the WONY plot thread of "ooooo Faye only ever thinks in absolutes" is subverted by her rogue actions

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Which is why, of course, this is neatly wrapped up by shooting her. Because you have to. Because reasons.

ashen jungle
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tbh if they had actually kept the subversion going but have her go "no, i wont go rogue" at the end, would've been a nice change-up too.
remember how in the xpac they have this whole "Faye is going over the edge" plotline which really doesnt go anywhere.

round sinew
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It's the 2nd dumbest plot, because the dumbest plot is still wasting Keener on "I'm gonna nuke New York!"

ashen jungle
#

I can 100% believe that Keener is full of himself enough that he'd "tie up loose ends" and just move on.

round sinew
#

MSV has this great trend of getting so very close to amazing storytelling, and then destroying it all.

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And I think it's because the genre Division is in as a game is hard to have a compelling story.

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FF14 is the only one in the genre with that mark, and it took them like 10 fucking years to get there.

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And this is doomer thought, but Heartlands is not going to raise the bar. It's likely going to lower it even further

sick lantern
ashen jungle
#

okay that's enough for me today, tired of hearing that stuff.

#

you do you, I'm out.

round sinew
#

They just need to make a single player game.

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I think of MSV did a single player Division game, it could be amazing.

sick lantern
#

wishful thinking though :/
are spin-offs less common in the industry nowadays or is that just me

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proper spin-offs not Apex Legends spin-offs

dusk breach
#

Well yeah I also think it’s true that it’s hard to build a deep story that makes at least somehow sense around a loot game with tons of repetitive grinding. But I like d2 very much, don’t get me wrong. Same problem with Diablo2 and 3 which I also like very much, though they aren’t shooters.
Another issue imo is total free open world gameplay without any boundaries. For a better story
It might be better to only be able to explore the game world in several parts which you unlock one by one. I liked ghost recon wildlands a lot for example, the cartel bosses where really badass. But the totally open world gameplay limited the storyline in my opinion.

woven basalt
viscid anvil
#

mmm, i love the story telling in div 2 lol. much of it is told by exploring the open world rather than dramatic cutscenes like destiny 2. personally i found Forsaken and beyond to be total snoozers and at this point cant be bothered to catch up. its like a space opera i dont care about lol because the plot developments are pretty meaningless

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in div, what i dont get from the game, i get from the books, collections, and eventually, the movie

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some people dont like that tho

dusk breach
#

Well the story in div2 seems just expedient to me, nothing very unique or special. Nevertheless I like the setting, the atmosphere and the soundtrack. It‘s well implemented, the abandoned cities, quite grim.

viscid anvil
#

FFXV had kind of a similar problem where a LOT of story was told in outside media, like the anime, the movie, and i think a follow up book. not to mention the DLC chapters that were missing from the story on launch. i dont think div2 is there but if we had some of the extended universe in the game, i think it would benefit from it

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like, in the hardcover Division lore book, theres some in-universe artwork depicting some hand written notes by an Agent, one of which says something like "youll have to take this gun off my dead body", referring to The Railsplitter named gun in the game. in the gun description in-game, it says Cassie had to take the gun "off one of your dead friends". i love crap like that lol

sick lantern
#

I feel like Heartland is gonna be The Division’s Apex Legends

woven basalt
#

thats like saying you don't think people are gonna buy div games because they watched the netflix movie.

#

theres a camp of people who dont buy games, just play f2p, and those people might get into the universe enough to check out the main series of games.

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it's the reason they do these kinda cross-media things.

kindred pelican
#

I d like heartland to be bigger survival like D1

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since its missing from d2

sick lantern
woven basalt
#

i dont see how another game did has any bearing on this.

#

doesnt make sense.

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plus, if heartland and xdef are gonna piggyback onto the epic stores' f2p titles, that'll be a pretty big net in a place where a lot of f2p players already go.

#

the situations seem pretty dissimilar.

sick lantern
woven basalt
#

what? lmao.

#

i was clearly talking about the success of one having any bearing on the other.

#

and titanfall to apex legends is a little different than the division and the division: heartland

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lets go back to the original post anyways, that was about intent not the assumptions on success

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which im not totally sold on, i wouldnt say nobody went from apex to titanfall

sick lantern
#

not enough to make the publishers care

#

#saveTitanfall remember?

woven basalt
#

EA only cares about that cash

#

i wouldnt say Ubisoft is EA tier (at least not at this point)

#

they take some wild swings to increase the fanbase for their franchises

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like TCES, wild swing, deemed a total miss

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x-def seems like it's gonna be another wild swing

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and heartland.

#

not really the kinda games that seem definite to make huge profits.

#

but maybe pump up the fanbase for the actual big titles they have going on.

sick lantern
woven basalt
#

i hope they do well, at least well enough that ubi doesnt pull the plug too quick.

#

like they did to gr: phantoms and TCES.

#

hope the exposure of being on epic makes that difference.

woven basalt
#

ngl, about a month ago i went back to div1 (getting agents 2-4 to level 30) and after seeing that echo (x3) in the lower right of the map, ive actually become more sympathetic toward keener.

#

the one where he's holed up with some civvies and he's calling for backup and getting denied

sick lantern
#

lower right?

sick lantern
#

or maybe you’re thinking of a phone call

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oh you’re right

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forgot about that cus I’ve barely looked at the collectibles since I cleared the map

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for the record the grid coordinates are 3239, 866

#

weirdly ill equipped rikers 🤔baseball bats and crowbars and molotov cocktails
I wonder did the power hierarchy between Rikers and Cleaners switch at some point in development? because here the Rikers have rioter level equipment and in the faction trailer way back, it showed the rikers getting killed by cleaners while the rest of the food chain is the same

sleek plover
#

Rioters are the faction that i would actually defend.

#

like how u guys do with cleaners and LMB and such

wispy raven
#

apparently the traffic on the highways on div 1 lasted to nj staten island and upstate

#

only a few lucky people managed to get out of the traffic maybe like 3-4

#

but the rest died on fuel then chaos broke out

woven basalt
woven basalt
sick lantern
sick lantern
sick lantern
#

but they’re a faction in the gameplay sense
but that’s pedantics

#

schrodinger’s faction

gaunt ice
#

the what faction?are we talking quantum physics again?

sick lantern
#

yes

#

black mesa faction when

gaunt ice
#

at this rate we just might have an assassin's creed tie in

kindred pelican
#

WatchDivisionCreed

sick lantern
#

considering the philosophies it would actually make sense

#

kinda

cold bramble
#

Huh, so the Betrayal track on the D1 soundtrack vinyl uses all the cues from the music for D1's Dark Zone story trailer

Shockingly appropriate

wispy raven
sick lantern
#

wonder what happened to the naval blockade 🤔must’ve been pretty easy to avoid the virus on a boat
who knows about boats? how long can they stay self sufficient

wispy raven
#

or ran out of supplies

#

i wonder what happened to the us army by the time heartland comes out

#

they probably all died

round sinew
#

Those and nuclear subs have the longest time they can go at sea without resupply

woven basalt
cold bramble
#

IIRC Keener's DC dead drops say that the quarantine on Manhattan/New York City has been lifted by the time of D2

sick lantern
#

“lifted” is a kind word I’m sure it’s more along the lines of “collapsed”

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or “had no further reason to exist”

sleek plover
#

damn I hate the templars

wispy raven
#

Massive spent time with Coast Guard experts, used real-world data on where the flooding occurs in the city and where the Potomac comes in through the Tidal Basin.

div 2

wispy raven
woven basalt
#

anyways, if you're referring to when heartland takes place, we don't actually know that.

wispy raven
#

it feels like by heartland it might be 1 year or 2 years

#

if it is then the jtf is probably dead only a couple of units and us military well maybe only a bit left

woven basalt
#

oh, i see.

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though, who knows, the time dilation between div1 and div2 was weird.

#

they could do that again and condense years into months.

sleek plover
#

imagine what would happen if America & the world is finally stabilized post division 5 or something.

tiny wraith
#

just started MOTHERLAND

unreal widget
#

Have fun!

tiny wraith
#

Night isabel I'm going to bed

#

Night hopper and DTL

#

And yes homeland is very cool

woven basalt
#

night, hope you have nice dreams.

woven basalt
tiny wraith
#

It the new breakpoint

woven basalt
#

OOOOH right

sleek plover
round sinew
#

I hope we get a R6-Division crossover

#

Would like to see the new Irish operator and her IED gadget.

sick lantern
full fox
sick lantern
#

it shouldn’t be nor does it need to be
(and if you believe far cry, it isn’t)

woven basalt
#

far cry is a special case, it's filled with loosely connected pocket universes.

west dock
sick lantern
woven basalt
# west dock explain XDefiant then

don't really have to explain what's essentially "nothing". the press release referred to them being "universes", as in separate, but is tbh too vague to take one way or the other. we're gonna have to wait for more info, and it seems like that's a long ways away. all we're probably gonna have is the tidbit about it being a farther future than the division.

#

what you shouldve noted was the flavor text mentioning that ghost recon character, and maybe faye's splinter cell goggles in the actual division games.

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because if we start treating xdef as hard canon, at this point, we might as well add in elite squad.

cold bramble
#

Shout out to the really unsubtle SHD LVOA-C in Wildlands, and the really lost supply drops containing lore for Division 2. I think they were read excerpts from Broken Dawn?

sick lantern
#

well the first one is a UPlay reward or something isn’t it
never heard of those supply drops

gaunt ice
wispy raven
sleek plover
#

It really bothers me why people think anarchism is a bad thing.

wispy raven
#

it isn't it will happen

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but all us military forces will be dead and small communites left but not much jtf dead black tusk idk but everything is decaying

late void
woven basalt
#

it's never been perfectly executed, since a form of government of having no government always leaves a vacuum. sure, in a perfect world it might work, but irl people are shitty and there's always gonna be someone who wants more and perfectly happy to fill that vacuum.

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maybe what people think is bad is the fallout after each time it fails.

late void
#

The more large and complex a society is able to become, the more successful it usually is (eg check QoL and population now vs a couple of hundred years ago). Size and complexity require some kind of management. Even primitive tribes had elders who acted as leaders.

trail wind
#

says tom clancy so should be connected 😛

wispy raven
#

When the Dollar Flu reached Washington, thousands of desperate civilians flocked to the airport looking for a way out of the city. They had no idea that they were rushing into one of the most dangerous hot-zones in the world, and not even CERA's best efforts could salvage the unfolding tragedy. The airport was coated in DC-62 and abandoned for months - until the Black Tusk arrived.

full fox
#

When the education system fails 😅

slate cloak
#

How does the division compare to the rest of the clancyverse?

#

Like
It's mostly modern combat with some form of advanced technology for the clancyverse
But I wonder how endgame division/div. 2 agents fare against R6 operators and people like Sam Fisher

#

Same for the enemy factions like LMB and BT

sick lantern
gaunt ice
#

i mean,take into account that a group of 1-4 wiped out multiple strongholds heads on i say they do have a chance

sick lantern
#

the likes of Ghosts and SAS, Navy Seals etc from team rainbow do similar things

gaunt ice
#

sure but their approach seems to be dependant on the element of surprise,and the scales of the operations we see in R6S is nowhere near as big as the Division,and the Ghosts seem to be more on the stealthy side of combat,not heads on

sick lantern
#

it’s not gonna be a full on stomp ofc but these people have training that is on par or superior to a division agent’s

gaunt ice
#

i disagree,we mostly sneak in the front entrance and start guns blazing.you can argue that Rainbow works the same but smaller,and Ghosts aren't the ones you send to wipe an entire base heads on

sick lantern
#

we have had this exact debate before i swear

gaunt ice
sick lantern
#

.

gaunt ice
#

if you're gonna send someone to face the bad guys heads on,SHD agents are priority one

cold bramble
#

The SHD augmented reality tech and the additional situational awareness it confers is an impressive force multiplier - there's a reason why everyone who has the resources to develop it wants something like that

However, given the wide range SHD recruits from, the results may differ - Kelso is canonically a Ranger School graduate who went into CIA Special Activities Division, while Kajika was involved with something in the US special operations community

sick lantern
#

yea the technological gap is the biggest factor

cold bramble
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In those match ups you would have spec ops with ISAC vs spec ops who don't have ISAC

sick lantern
gaunt ice
gaunt ice
cold bramble
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Like some of the anecdotal stuff I heard about the US Navy SEALs at their nadir was complaints about how they could and did go straight to SEAL training from boot camp - while other special forces can function as extremely well trained light infantry when everything goes wrong, those SEALs never learned how

gaunt ice
cold bramble
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And yet another batch of anecdotes on pilots learning to fly F-35s was that they actually preferred people with no prior experience to take them as their first operational platform, as while pilots from other communities would take their habits and enhance them with the tech, the new pilots would try completely new things others might not have considered

tiny wraith
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Afternoon DTL and park

trail wind
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Division agents are recruited based on backgrounds no normal joe get selected for the program. They want super high tier individuals due to what they are suppose to represent and do to the charter. so in regards in training. I think a lot if not all of them are very well trained.

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But this just brings in another layer to the whole rogue agent situation.

wispy raven
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im pretty sure during the chaos there was a lot of jets flying around and helicopters

sick lantern
sick lantern
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there is a jet flyover in div 1's into cutscene at the bit with the report on the central park mass grave, perhaps a show of force to keep the dark zone in check?

wispy raven
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the reason the lmb got choppers cause of that carrier they didn't leave in time cera was desperate they used it for their aid and contamination

sick lantern
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the Intrepid and everything on it is a museum fyi

wispy raven
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elaborate

sick lantern
wispy raven
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y'know that us navy carrier with choppers

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that cera used for the disaster and virus

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and those left over chopers

sick lantern
wispy raven
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they didn't leave in time and cera used it for the virus thats how the lmb got it's helicopters and yes the one in west side piers

sick lantern
sick lantern
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pretty sure that didn't happen nor would it make too much sense i don't think

wispy raven
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it'a stheory of mine

sick lantern
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i would say it sounds more like a headcanon

woven basalt
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it means the same thing.

sick lantern
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theory would imply there’s some evidence

sleek plover
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Roasted Cleaners, a cannibal dish.

wispy raven
sick lantern
wispy raven
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bruh do you want lmb flying with choppers around nyc destroying the jtf and the division

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next thing you'll know the lmb will have destroyed manhattan and nyc

sick lantern
wispy raven
sick lantern
wispy raven
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im sure you wouldn

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want the lmb to have jets and helicopters

sick lantern
wispy raven
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they could've gotten helicopters from anywhere

sick lantern
wispy raven
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my point is the lmb are the strongest threat in the division 1 and to the jtf

sick lantern
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No shit...

wispy raven
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black tusk though has a navy, airforce, army.

plain belfry
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realistically, a perimeter would be maintained and you wouldn't even get close

wispy raven
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good thing lmb didn't have navalcraft or the entire blockade would've been engaging in 24-hour engagments

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and im pretty sure the us navy battled with the black tusk navy and airforce

sick lantern
ashen jungle
slate cloak
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Here's a dumb question
how would a division agent square up against a T-doll? (no dummy links)
I asked something similar for division agent vs r6 agents and ghosts and apparently that has been debated before I guess

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IDK if this counts
but since GFL had a division collab I guess

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T-Dolls are physically stronger than humans
but Division Agents have the technological advantage
but both agents and t-dolls can buff their stats, deal burst damage, etc.

gaunt ice
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T-Doll from that weeb game that name it's characters after guns?

slate cloak
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Yes

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But then again I'm asking this since I usually asked the vs questions in lore chats

cold bramble
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Depends on how susceptible the dolls are to disrupt/EMP for your purposes I guess

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The DARPA log about someone leaking and complaining about the flame turret to the UN has me wondering if the Office of Personnel Management hack ever happened in the world of the Division

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Of course, if one sticks by the original D1 2015 timeline, any value becomes irrelevant because civilization as you know it ends shortly afterwards

sleek plover
sick lantern
cold bramble
sick lantern
cold bramble
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Hence why I'm saying "original D1 timeline", since D2 props in the NOA building suggest a retcon to sometime after 2018

sick lantern
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it has nothing to do with div 1 it’s straight up incorrect

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you can’t retcon something that was never true

sleek plover
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I think the next crossover for div will be with

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a game about group of japanese superpowered teenagers who summon spectral beings based on jungian psychology

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In a form of cards and masks

sick lantern
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of course

ashen jungle
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yu-gi-howboutno

gaunt ice
gaunt ice
sleek plover
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I would actually be happy if their entire existence get thanos wiped

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along with the very memory, history and the fact that they ever existed

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cuz I hate them

gaunt ice
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nah Left Mouse Button is good,can't play shooter without it

ashen jungle
tiny wraith
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Afternoon rivens and DTL

sick lantern
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why do some of the div 1 gear set pieces have cool names and the rest are just basic

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🤔

wispy raven
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those who lived in staten island in the divison or brooklyn are quiet lucky because manhattan is surrounded by warships, jets, boats and it's total chaos

tiny wraith
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Guess what 1 of the breakpoint guards just talked about the rts carrier system,which happens to be future initiatives bp

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Which they acquired from aroura

woven basalt
woven basalt
gaunt ice
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what about the obscure poster on floor 100 of the summit?

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i think some peeps talk about based on that poster,the year is 2030-ish

sick lantern
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Sadly I don’t think all of the artwork is TWoTD is canon

sick lantern
sick lantern
sick lantern
mint citrus
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There's a map in the Capitol Building that's just the old E3 2014 D1 map

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It's sitting on a table iirc

sick lantern
mint citrus
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Yep

sick lantern
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;-; life could be a dream

full fox
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Just like that Exotic Showgun 😉

gaunt ice
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I got the showstopper in d1 after putting my sorry ass through 50 Grand Central legendary run

tiny wraith
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afternoon DTR

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RTS carrier backpack is used by the Bodark in Breakpoint

sick lantern
slate cloak
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Yet another dumb "Division vs Ubisoft/Clancyverse related " question
How would the Hyenas square up against Far Cry New Dawn's Highwaymen?

woven basalt
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Hyenas have better gear.

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unless the highwaymen force is all enforcers, i doubt they can hold up against the hyenas.

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it's really hard to compare, ND has different grades of highwaymen, where-as in div2, the different grades are the factions themselves.

thorn bear
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I like how the campus in nyc has the same two way stairs entrance as the BOO in Div 1

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It's a nice touch

sleek plover
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Jokes on the off topic aside, I think i see another potential alliance btw true sons and cleaners tbh

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Considering both are former JTF(at least in case of cleaners, they should have been drafted into jtf cuz sanitation engineering is a government agency) and they both have the weak/sick are already dead attitude

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I think both will be a fine pair alongside hyenas+rikers alliance

full fox
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I thought the Cleaners would like the Outcast better since both like fire 😅

sick lantern
full fox
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Same reason military disciplined True Sons wouldn't like Cleaners

sick lantern
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Cleaners are at least trying to be disciplined

gaunt ice
sick lantern
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well there’d be no America to rule if everyone’s dying of green poison

woven tundra
wispy raven
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first off warlords of new york should've looked like i am legend ny everything silent and dead animals roaming streets few people and criminals

woven basalt
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why's that?

woven basalt
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oh wait, because of the red poison thing?

wispy raven
tawdry grail
sick lantern
woven basalt
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dr. seuss' the division

tiny wraith
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vening hopper

slate cloak
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What's your favorite named weapon flavor text?
Mine is Burn Out

woven basalt
sleek plover
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Mine's Pestillence

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and lady death, parts only not the weapon itself

gaunt ice
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The exotic Ninjabike backpack in D1,”NinjaBike Messengers deliver your important packages anywhere in Manhattan securely, speedily and confidentially. Our messengers can't open our bags without client approval. Literally can't. These things are indestructible”

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A literally invincible backpack that can be used as a massive bulletproof vest for your back sounds dope

slate cloak
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Ya know about the Ninjabike stuff
I've only learned about them in two exotics
this one and the kneepads

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I mean they're couriers
they have really sturdy and secure bags
and kneepads that support moving around (and parkour?)

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well from what I could tell from the two exotic gear pieces

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Since the bag makes you loose less when you die
and the kneepads reward you for vaulting and moving from cover-to-cover

sick lantern
sick lantern
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i only today realised the ninjabike bag’s flavour text is a possible reference to its old effect

mint citrus
sleek plover
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If we gonna include div 1 weaps, than its liberator allthe way

gaunt ice
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@sick lantern wait Barrett has a hunting knife?

sick lantern
gaunt ice
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😮

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I mean,why not the jacket since it’s more…uhh iconic?or her chest piece?

sick lantern
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cus it was the first thing that came to my head and it sort of rolls off the tongue better

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there’s no “larae barrett’s chest piece” voice line is there yaknow

gaunt ice
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I’m talking about the line tho,it’s really random

sick lantern
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yea

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exactly

sleek plover
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damn i hate LMB

tiny wraith
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hey DTL

sleek plover
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hey sapherstine

tawny pewter
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they literal got their name from a prison name

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how lame is that

sick lantern
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I’m bored 😞Heartland when

dusk dove
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same as before 2021- 2022 eta

sick lantern
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i know

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but it feels like there’s little to do in the now

sick lantern
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classes though 😔 that doesn't sound great

viral shell
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Ugh, heartlands wont really be my thing

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Survival PvEvP playing as a pre-made char? nah, not my thing

floral ivy
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Still no news on Heartlands?

sick lantern
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there was literally news today

floral ivy
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Didn't see anything on the announcement pages 🤷🏻‍♀️

dusk dove
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was delayed to early 2022 (April ish) iirc from the delay dev post.

floral ivy
sleek plover
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But... I made this argument over like gazillion times in this channel

full fox
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is it gonna be on April Fool's day 😅

pearl pendant
sick lantern
sleek plover
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damn I hate black tusks

mighty zealot
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Who's worse? Black Tusk or Last Man Battalion?

sick lantern
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black tusk

sleek plover
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Both

woven basalt
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i'd probably say LMB, since they are an actual "cult", by being a cult of personality built around bliss.

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idk, cults will always seem more fucked to me.

sleek plover
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I think its like comparing which kind of brain tumor is better

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or which kind of 💩 is more sanitary

gaunt ice
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that still depends though,we have yet to see the black tusk's true agenda of wherever they're naz,plain evil or conflicted beliefs

rustic fox
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Wasn't Black tusk primarily set up as an outside government group when word that the government were setting up SHD? funded by Sokolov(a)

cold bramble
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We don't know for certain

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All we do know from in-game lore is that they're a PMC group who made some kind of deal with the current president of the US, Andrew Ellis

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probably to assassinate the previous president because Ellis was VP at the time

copper swallow
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If you look carefully, some of the gear that drops resemble the stuff that Black Tusk wears

mighty zealot
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So like... What was Keener's plan exactly?

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He kidnaps that Russian virologist, steals Amherst's gear and data, then goes into hiding for a few months while he has various factions help him make a missile? That was seriously his grand scheme? A missile?

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And then as a last-ditch "F You", he activates the Rogue network so random rogues will bushwhack us during Missions and Control Points?

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I feel like I'm missing something because that's not much of a plan... Especially for a guy as intelligent, ruthless, and scheming as Aaron Keener.

late void
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as far as I could tell, he wanted to completely clear new york in order to get rid of the remnants of the old system (the factions, division, jtf etc) and 'start again with a clean slate'

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and presumably use that as a threat in order to gain power in the rest of the country

mighty zealot
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That makes a bit more sense, but like.... A missile? That's what this all boils down to?

late void
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yeah it seemed pretty corny to me too, so many cheesy action movies where the core threat is 'wipe out new york'

sick lantern
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then that changed between games

mighty zealot
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Wasn't that the Outcast's plan, too? Maybe not so much political influence, but to spread / threaten to spread the virus to wipe out the World?

late void
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outcasts are just insane: 'we suffered, and not everyone tried to help us, so now everyone must suffer even more than we did!' never minding that everyone else was likely busy just trying to survive the pandemic themselves & save their own families

sick lantern
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the world of the division describes the outcasts' ideology as "liberating nihilism"

late void
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it'd be like all the civilians in Yemen suddenly deciding to go full suicidal terrorist on the rest of the world because most of us haven't personally campaigned to help them in their war

sick lantern
mighty zealot
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So the Outcast's are petulant children who found Dad's gun

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I still think Keener's plan was disappointing, but I guess that's why he failed.

sick lantern
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that's not just you

mighty zealot
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They built him up so much in the first game I was waiting for some Ozymandias type scheme

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Nope, he went full Austin Powers. "Oh Hell, let's just do what we always do: hijack some explosives and hold the World hostage, yeah?"

sick lantern
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lmao

mighty zealot
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Like the dude flipped dozens of Division Agents to go rogue, has the skills to utilize and hack all manner of military grade weaponry, and access to the data that caused the apocalypse... So yeah, just build a bomb and leave it at that smfh

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At least the Cleaners had (have) a viable and achievable goal.

sick lantern
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keener just wanted to go full mgs2

spare arrow
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keptyouwaitinghuh

sick lantern
#

KENR

gaunt ice
sleek plover
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Keener wants the world to revolve around might makes right, and he wants to rule with power. Outcasts, well, I find their cause most understandable, sympathetic even.

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Too bad they killed innocent civilians

gaunt ice
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I’d excuse the Hyenas to be practically insane,out of their mind or at best immature because of the spice.
But not those Outcast scums

slate cloak
woven basalt
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LMB.... easily.

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Now, make it Hyenas vs Peggies, and then it's interesting.

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Spice vs Bliss

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New Edenites beat both

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that bliss ninja magic is too OP

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Div Agent vs FC Protag might be an interesting match-up, as well.

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Hi-Tech vs Mystic Power

gaunt ice
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Imagine:
Ghosts but with Division tech

sleek plover
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Well, both are trained to be specops

sick lantern
gaunt ice
vernal heart
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Imagine that playing division and you wake up to the insanity cutscene from FC3

woven basalt
sick lantern
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i thought that was all hallucinations and shit, or non-canon for-fun stuff

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besides the weird animal genetic mutations in fc1 which afaik isn’t really canon anymore

woven basalt
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that's fc1, which isn't really canon, instincts is what ubi put out to replace it right after, that's where the feral powers are from, its from an herbal potion created by the tattoo warriors seen in predator (also where the white flowers used for highest tier potions throughtout the series and the inspiration to bliss come from), the tattoo bros then went on to inspire the magic tribal tattoos in 3, which kinda kept repeating afterwards.

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the hallucinations are something else, extra.

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i could probably go on nonstop, but im really holding back a lot, FC is the ubi-franchise i know... too much about.

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ngl, im sad that that FC producer left the franchise, he was the heart and soul of the series for so long. i wouldn't be surprised if the series warps into something different from here on.

gaunt ice
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Far cry is a game where an insane guy who claims to have talked to Jesus lead a cult full of armed people to take over a whole town.I don’t think calling the protagonists “guy with gun” is enough to emphasize on it

sick lantern
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well apparently they’re also straight up fucking magic which is news to me so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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anything goes now ig

woven basalt
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more tribal mysticism, which goes hand in hand with the (anti-colonialist) magical realism.

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yeah, far cry is a real trip.

sleek plover
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I got a brand new leak on the new content for div2, basically the agent goes to black tusks jail in florida named "the black dolphin" for being framed about killing the president.

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and kelso. slips a single arrow to you to help you escape, which gives you strange superpower to turn your body into wires.

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and you team up with three other inmates and one green poison based organism in a human shell to escape the jail.

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and fight the final boss who is a catholic priest and he rides an actual white horse, and one of the companion inmates is related to him.

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And than due to the priest's time powers the entire division universe gets a reboot

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Also your new safehouse is a hidden room ran by a kid in a baseball uniform.

winged lava
sleek plover
#

From a particular shop that is mentioned in your profile name.

winged lava
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right

woven basalt
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lol

full fox
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I stopped when I saw the words, "slips a single arrow" 😅

woven basalt
sleek plover
#

So i finally finished lau manhunt

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so all i need to do is to stay dormant till new content comes up

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see you in February agents

sick lantern
#

hibernation

woven basalt
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feels like everyone is hibernating rn, probably resting up for marathoning the upcoming new content.

cosmic jasper
#

Fr

gaunt ice
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i skipped Lau's manhunt,the final target grind just burns me out

cold bramble
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I've been wondering about this for a while now after doing Faye's manhunt but... is the agent we control in 2 the same agent we control in 1?

full fox
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wouldnt that mean they would offer a feature where you can carry over your gear from div1?

cold bramble
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Not... really?

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Many games offer you the ability to transfer a save from a previous game, such as the Mass Effect series, but you don't carry over gear, you would carry over stuff such as story related decisions and class

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But gear would be difficult to carry over because there's gonna be different systems between games

full fox
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but you start off with 'worned out' gear 🤔

cold bramble
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Indeed

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There's also the fact that there's no way they can make your character carry over for millions of players since the whole system is different between these two games and is impossible to code.

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Everyone would have different builds

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And most sets and exotics in the Division 2 weren't even in the game on release; some of them aren't even here now

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Idk maybe I'm talking shit but it would still be really cool if the agent in Division 2 were the same and had all the same knowledge as the first one

full fox
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they could make it so that whatever you had was also worn 😅 one of each

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and have the players choose to keep it as sentimental value

cold bramble
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that could work tbh

gaunt ice
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from a lore standpoint it can make sense,say after the d1 agent left to respond to a call for help from another region,then NYC goes to shit,and a six-month time gap with limited resources and no backup,their gear just goes out of commission

sick lantern
cold bramble
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stupid spammer doesn't even realize everyone ping is disabled for non-mods lol