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If you want I can start getting really nitpicky over grammar so Thanh can get all high-and-mighty over it again.
Oh hey grats on the server.
Bank HQ?
"grats" is shorthand for "congratulations".
We got over that.
Right?Rivs pls I felt really bad
Give it another day.
the only thing that is weird about the server is there are ppl with "!" in there name
Uhhh what?
i meant to say: "there are ppl with ! in there name"
cause it shows the first for some reason in the 'online' section
Grammar symbols > Numbers > Letters are the order in most itemised lists.
Damn I hate LMB
Thus making him my enemy, can I make simillar profiles for mine too?
Tbh his idealism is totally different from lmb
There was one LMB bounty where a guy just pressgangs civilians into suicide squads.
God, that sounds so unrealistic if we're talking about a PMC sent to a area of lawlessness and chaos. Commander Fonti is a disgrace. Civilians, if anything, were meant to be given shelter and protection, not to join ranks in a epidemic where someone JTF, Rikers, or Rioter could easily be posing as a civilian. Why would he add civilians to their ranks? Riddle me that? What's the point of doing that when you could just force them to go somewhere to get themselves killed?
And aside from all that @A Flabbergasting Donut#0239 said it was his choice to join the LMB so it would make sense he wasn't allowed into their ranks right away, interrogation would take place first. But perhaps that's the difference, Donut chose to join and Fonti forced people to join.
And you know what? Commander Fonti has been dishonorably discharged, with a bullet for allowing civilians into our ranks without proper procedure and for an unjust reason @sleek plover
@untold blaze You want some
I genuinely hate the Kelso dog phase of the hornet manhunt more than anything oml
You step into that red square two seconds too soon and your ass is dead
It's not well explained, basically what you gotta do is step into a green circle the Hound puts down, that gives you a temporary buff.
No I know how it works lol I did it
that lets you sprint through the fart gas.
But I hate it with a seething rage
I actually kinda like it. It's at least something new.
The audacity of that boss
Schaeffer staying alive after I turn my incinerator turret on him will never not be funny.
Same energy as that guy in dcd headquarters that runs past your window when you sterilise the room
What a madlad
Schaeffer is the true chad though. After the fight, Kelso says "ah he'll be fine", meaning he lived.
Schaeffer is the only one I didn't do yet
I'm gonna take my sweet time with that since he doesn't have any special shd
Shrap Trap is fun.
I've been running a vile eclipse build with that new shotgun, the venom spreads like wildfire it's amazing
Takes about three seconds for everyone to start crying lmao
Did you pump 2 minigun mags on him?no I donât think so
I had to do the mission like 5x, so actually yes I did once.
Man of Steel
he also got headshot by the tac.50, hit by the RL and once memorably; shield bashed.
Ima try running that again after class,gonna burn his corpse
Like a Sunday morning barbecue
bonk
Question:why donât we see more rogue in light zones like the dz?
I mean,the militia and jtf are essentially paper decoy
Because every agent in the LZ would hunt them down.
1st wave vs second wave
Sure the numbers might be a bit off,but they have a chance
Or maybe an assault at the White House,just like what they did(or Keener)did to City Hall
I mean,40 rogues can take the BoO quite ez,considering how City Hall attack had only 5 men
hey what plays when you enter the DZ
My only question is. Do people still LIVE in the dark zones? I mean invaded DZâs have the black tusk broadcasts which talk about hoarding not allowed and stuff
"Transmissions jammed. Proximity coverage only. Backup activated, system rebooted." ISAC isnt able to connect to the SHD network in the DZs, making going rogue much easier, and less traceable.
Remember back in Div 1 whenever you entered the DZ and ISAC sounded nothing like ISAC
The DZs in NYC are likely uninhabited apart from maybe the safehouses. The DC ones are likely spotted with people trying to go in to get stuff, but i doubt theres anyone living there.
Same can be said for City Hall
lul
wdym?
I mean the rogues can hide themselves even in the light zones
Just like how Keener and the bois smoked the NYC BoO
than again those rogues are like, adept at hiding themselves from the network or something like that
while player rogues are just... "smack thingy until it go RED"
There are actual LZ rogues, I've mostly seen them in NYC but they do exist.
The VA has his voice changed quite heavily for the role of ISAC already, so it's probably just more tweaking.
Still funny
Ya know,why donât they do what I just suggested?
I'd assume they want to recruit more to their cause.
And taking out the BoO rules that out.
I was never entirely sold on the whole "recruit to their cause" thing. Cause it's pretty clear Keener never actually cared about any of them and he ran the thing.
keener did the things he needed too with some expediting from them
The only Rogue of his main group who didn't believe him was the only one who he didn't directly betray. Kajika.
I'd argue that the only rogue Keener actually cared about was Hornet, ans that is because they were besties
Eh, Hornet stuck with BT though.
He didnt? His minions were outcast?
BT worked through other Factions. They funded the Hyenas for a start.
IIRC the dialogue from Manny was "son of a bitch, they kept it going" or something like that.
Yeah, they chose Hyena because they were easy to work with
I vaguely recall Hornet comms had him turning down Schaeffer's offer tho
Fairly sure they helped the True Sons too, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had a hand in getting the Outcasts of of the RI quarantine.
IIRC the only Faction that 100% turned down the Rogues help was the Cleaners, and that's why Keener used Connely as an intermediary to control them.
I didn't manage to unearth the connection between them and the two factions, juzt some BT crates that was supposed to be covered up in Capitol Building
DUA had the Hyena info, there's actually a bunch of really cool lore if you collect all the comms and echo's
Yeah I found one for the hyena, just not outcasts and true sons
I don't think they ever had direct contact with the factions they supplied actually. They likely just left crates of supplies near Hyena areas.
explains why they always kill off the previous faction that was there when they arrive.
I remember one comm where they left a note on the packages for the Hyenas
And the aformentioned crate in the capitol, none on the outcasts tho
Outcasts would probably just set it on fire lol.
Yeah true, out of all the factions they're the only one with actual rabid hatred towards all things
I just rewatched Agent Origins
Why donât we have those cleaner trucks
It would be really cool
Like,one will have 7-8 yellow cleaners and the truck itself has flamethrowers?
And an encounter will be about as same as a rogue encounter
that would be kinda bad for us actually, imaging Cleaner dropping in like how BT in their halo , but instead , SWAT style while clinging onto Garbage trucks
I mean,that can be cool
worse still, a rigged up fire truck, aka Dragon One and fires napalm artillery at us
Plus,they canât just be all Fast and Furious in the middle of a ruined city?
Thatâs why it would be an rare encounter
Duh
Like "Air Recon" ?
How about vehicles for all factions?
Yeah like that
Hyenaâs can have a SWAT truck
True Sons can take some Jeep with mg on it
hyenas get the VW wagon in hippy colors
Hyena and their Humvee , Outcast and...i don't know really, True Son National Guard APC, BT chopper and drone and other tech stuff, Cleaner garbage truck ,Riker prison transport and apc
Outcast,hmmm maybe a chemical truck,the same one used to spray DC62
Yeah but like,1 and itâs not even a proper vehicle but more of a stronghold
I mean,SWAT trucks canât be that rare
imaging BT just casually flying in with a Osprey and dumping a Razerback
Not gonna be easy though
They took the entirety of Dark Hour just to set one up
whered the BT get that plane from
and yet just 2 minute to drop one in Liberty island
and where was it coming from
And remember,they occupied the plane before
(the one in the DH raid)
Not really,they set foot on it quite early so I would say 2-3 hours for a setup?
kind of rolled it off the EB cargo plane i guess, or maybe Osprey drop, that thing got wheels
a razorback rolling down the street casually
And that plane we see in the opening of DH was carrying it?or maybe they started setting up just moments before we come
I don't think the razorback can even fit in the plane
comes in parts, maybe ?
Piece by piece?
LEGO!
Still don't see that happening
the 4 generators in one plane, the top panel in one ,the bottom in one, the main chassis on one
or maybe they just rolled it off a hovercraft
That I believe
But whered the BT cargo plane come from
Because it was landing at washington
BT being BT, that's believable, but how did True Son get a rail gun....and so many mortars
some where , with BT being international group, and boss lady being russian, maybe somewhere in motherland ?
The rail gun could've been in a museum or something lol
Since it looks like a ww1 or 2 cannon
The rotary cannon i dont even know
ww2 Schwerer Gustav?
Yeah but you gonna neee some time to get the materials for it to even running
Do you know how much money cost for it to fire once?
Yeah
they need to make shells bigger than the previous one due to wear and tier of rifling
Yeah money is meaningless in an apocalypse
An arm and liver per second
But how do they even produce that much ammo?
Steal it
And gunpowder?
could be just toned down explosive
Huh,yeah some thousand-ish grenades should be enough for a mortar lol
i could actually think the main gun is a modified Karl instead, with a long barrel
then 4 mortars plus the 2nd boss's one being maybe just a howitzer or something, ww2 german or soviet stuff
Yeah but the biggest question is that how does Morozova aim a rocket launcher by pointing it onto the sky,yet has like insane accuracy
She literally tracks your movement
could have LG-spotters in train, or maybe those green miniguns
Molly, the iron woman, taking explosive like nothing
We all should just cease violence and say âOk boomerâ
cue Boomer crashing right though an openable grate door
boomer has anger problems
guy has anger issue i tell you that
man's an ex boxer
Yeah and heâs sucks at it
Boomer is a boomer
Has a weight lifting in his unit that stands up until the apocalypse
Maybe if we all just vc ingame âok boomerâat once,heâll instantly die from cringe
Hell just get mad
And dies from ligma
well if putting raid in mind, our SHD agents are made of iron too - getting hit by Boomer, that's a ton of Newton, aka hit by truck, agent walks away fine, getting gassed by Grape and Orange fanta, fine, getting heating up to 120 degree c in a dry room, fine, walking in molten metal, fine, taking direct fire on mortar and Gau 8 , fine
That's not a truck that's nearly the weight of a fucking MBT
Tbf Weaselâs chems are not lethal
And look at Fiesel the 100 Rpm man
getting nipples shocked by True Son's medic, fine
walking into wet puddle that's glowing, ded
He looks like a wrapped burrito in a microwave
You donât always die from shocks thou
But chemicals are a different story
agents with all the tech stuff and bullets on them could actually cook off though, chemcials...let's see
chem burn, corrode, melts, disrupt nerve, sight, movement, and all that
Iâll take a wild guess and say our agents have some tech mod embedded into their body,literally
actually thinking about that, True Son foam man could insta kill agents by foaming their head
suffocation
Head foam is not that easy man
If they canât aim for the head,how would you expect them to do that?
Speaking of foam i did that twice to the BT heli in camp white oak at the start
Didn't work
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maybe put them in balls like Williams ? let the AI do the guiding ?
Applied that logic,why donât we programm the AI in seekers to jump to the head?
Itâs difficult and inefficient
Like,what if they have a full face mask(wyvern)
Air burst shatter mine ?
Bleed and multi target
btw Wyvern's neck looks sun burned
Itâs just plainly ineffective
Just try to aim a tennis ball to hit directly at a mannequinâs head
Then programm a dumbass AI on your watch to do that
"Piece of shit wristwatch"
Oh,donât forget to tell them to explode infront of the targetâs face
I just really want a hostile truck roaming the city
And I just think that the heat you see on the UI is the one being stacked steadily
Once it hits a limit,itâll go all out and just incinerates you
So I'm just trying to wrap my head around something atm. Someone has hired black tusk to be doing all the things they are doing. Is there some type of secret government or something I have not seen yet like Fallout Enclave?
BT are the ones who came to Ellis, so this is more likely than not a personal thing for Sokolova.
only way BT could be implanted into the white house to kill mendez
BT didn't kill the POTUS, they just convinced a couple of Secret Service agents to do it in exchange for something.
"he was left handed" etc.
and the thing the secret service agents got? bullets
th Schaeffer special^TM
"2 randoms in critical condition"
"oh those secret service agents will be fine"
being a volunteer still makes you part of the organization smh but you are right
It makes you a patsy, not part of the BT. Especially since the head of the BTSU shot them in the back as soon as they were done.
đ faye is innocent then
Lau chose to actively work for BT, there's a big difference.
Schaeffer actually recruited her.
What does that have to do with anything?
also wasnt in exchange for something direct, just a purpose after her sister got capped.
hm
With Lau they effectively used the "disillusioned soldier" trope.
Wouldn't the fact that we're working against the President come up more?
He was with us for five minutes and dipped
IMO the next expansion will deal with it, if not it's likely the plot of div3.
the Manhunts seem to be a way of both tying off loose ends of WONY and setting up whatever's next.
True, I just have more questions than the game answers now
From what I've seen, it seems like the SHD was deliberately set up to fail
Though I could be wrong
And/or reading into things
i believe his treason is still only known by the inner circle of shd in dc (i.e us, kelso & manny)
SHD wasn't so much "set up to fail" as "never intended to be activated for real".
Plus how the comms seem to be all over
many of the comms show that the Agents interviewed were for political reasons or to simply fill up space.
With Hornet and Schaeffer you got a sense of progression and escalation
Faye sends the members of her team on missions that have unrelated objectives that tend to play to their egos
Like Kestrel
Also Magnus is funny as hell
I honestly wretched a little at Magnus, was more than happy for him to die.
Can't wait for Coswald
coswald?
last target
You mean Circe?
Yes,the one with a missing L
Sister of Jamie.
I have no idea why you used her surname instead of the name that's on the Manhunt lol.
alicia circled coswald
I actually like Magnus, got 3 out of 4 comms and dude is hilarious
My favorite was schaeffer during the mission since he literally says "WHY WON'T YOU DIE YOU GOD DAMN BULLET SPONGE"
That reminds me i need to rerun Schaeffer for the remaining comms
My second favorite is when the hunter just growls at me
Moral of the manhunt: Russians aren't human
creepy laughter
To be honest tho hearing the hunter going straight slasher film on the rikers was pretty cool
i'm kind of shocked msv didn't add a terror animation just for npcs hunters attack, anyone would be scared shitless if you were charged by someone in a ballistic mask with psycho markings
that would be funny to see
People: "I like magnus"
Magnus: "hey purdy lady, come sleep with me"
audible wretching
He admits it lol
Doesn't Keener say the same thing?
no he calls you a brainwashed muppet
*puppet. He's not from 70's England.
He does comment on kinda meta stuff if you let his fight go on for a bit.
Wait what does he say
He does lament the fact that we refuse to die
I find it funnier schaeffer literally says why we can't die and calls us a bullet sponge
"I'm reloading... your turn..." "Can you stop for a second? I'm reloading..." "Wow, you're making me repair my armor." "Ever got hit by [SHD tech gadget]?"
"got a turret I can borrow"
"You're a real piece of [the proverbial] agent, but I guess you already know that"
âOh look, you're flanking meâ
He alternates between laid back snide tone and rage and i love him for it
Wait what if you actually stop shooting him while he's reloading
Does he say anything?
I try to do that fight as little as humanly possible.
Also why do lmb and I think BT tell each other to shoot centre of mass
It's a military training thing. centre-mass is the biggest target.
I'm not in the military nor have I heard much about it
"hey jerk that didn't graduate high-school, aim for the much smaller head"
thats the extent of my knowledge about the military.
Never graduated high school and never went to the military because I'm not old enough to
As soon as I graduate I'll know
Its part of training. Less likely to waste bullets by firing at the torso than firing at the head/arms/legs, and since LMB and BTSU are PMCs, they likely had similar drills to the real life militaries of the world
Maybe shoot the legs first to incapacitate them,THEN go for the head?
Cuz if you got shit aim,just shoot the leg and make them a easier target
Have you ever been hit in the chest with a rifle round?
i dont think armor really absorbs the impact force tho, looking at it
It absorbs it enough so it doesn't kill you.
We were talking about irl Thanh, in-game is quite a lot different as you can aim much better with a mouse than a real gun.
If the ceramic takes the bullet, you're still going to be injured for a bit.
Winded, bruised, broken skin, broken or cracked ribs.
Likely knocked on your ass
Worst case scenario, you're incapacitated for the rest of the firefight.
Adrenaline can offset most of the pain and let you get back up, though. Adrenaline can do a lot of crazy shit.
Meanwhile. Division agents wear hoodies and flip flops into battle.
No wonder most of them died or went rogue. SHD agents get shiny gadgets but nobody thought to give them even a fucking flak vest or helmet
some people got a vest aye, but like Phoenix Down apparel event, some people simply got no armor
Airsoft LARPers wear better armor then SHD agents
like Garzia, dude just got a mag bandolier and thats it
You either die with no armor, or live long enough to get armor and go rogue
im willing to argue, what with all the differing visuals, our Div2 guys are more heavily armed and armoured than our Div1 guy
I want to think so. They've had several more months to gather equipment up and have arguably fought in more dangerous situations and come out fine.
could someone put up an endgame comparison between div1 armor and div2 armor?
As in the actual stats?
nah the looks
the actual stats would be bonkers, what with numbers not matching the looks and all that
Ah. Yeah. That would be hard Tbh, due to visuals. My Div1 agent definitely just walked around the whole game in a hoodie, jeans, and a slouchie
My Div2 agent is decked out in full Black Tusk and Hardwired apparel and looks like a battle cyborg.
mine varies, from a traffic police to Striker set and JTF gunner rocking full patriot
i would also like to say that TP is among the heaviest and most protective looking armor in both games, you damn near look like a chungus
Think, Div1 agent was there almost at the beginning of the lovkdown and didn't really get much of a chance to prepare. They also don't really encounter much to scavenge from except LMB and like, what, 4 Rogue agents and a Hunter total?
Meanwhile Div2 agent has had like 7 months, and has taken on like 30 Hunters, 30 Rogues, and likely scavengers Black Tusk gear.
oh yeah, that makes sense, div1 was mostly civillian, a small portion of professional gear from LMB, Rikers, and Rogues, and a little bit of advanced divtech gears
while div2 story on the True Sons side almost always included raiding their stockpile of military quality gears
I'm not counting the rogues and hunters from underground or bounties btw. Only the story Rogues the D1 agent encounters and the "story" Hunter the agent deals with in Survival.
this is also easier to see as early game div2 gear looks are more civillian and market based, while endgame ones are more tactical and militarized
Div2's player agent is regularly finding military grade gear and has encountered literally dozens of rogue agents and hunters, and next-gen tech from Black Tusk. They should be more machine than human by Manhunt season 4.
The fact I don't get to control more tech in Division 2 is actually offensive.
Why don't I get the cool drones Black Tusk has?
Where's my doggo?
Where's my mini-tank?
yeah after literally slaughtering all of Tidal Basin we should have something more
or at least JTF and militias would be seriously beefed up
I wanna see a custom painted warhound by our side tbh, that we could repair and stuff
What's the point of playing a 6 yellow Hardwired set with skill guns if my only friends are a gun turret and gun drone? I should be able to slap my minigun spec onto a dog.
JTF has even shown they can hack and control a dog. Give me the fucking dog.
Atleast we got armor plates now
If I can't ride a dog into battle to kill Faye Lau, what's the point of this game
Also glad to see you Rommie
Maybe hack one?
Tbh I want the dog from Future Soldier.
K boy could mass hack warhounds and even marauder, but we could only jam stuff with emp
Mobile cover with a minigun and fly-by-wire missiles.
But oh boy, finishing a manhunt gets me another trap gadget
i mean we do see several undeployed warhounds in several missions
WHY WHY do we not use it
Because SHD was made to lose
We're purposely underequipped and poorly organized.
Undermined from the start.
ye, the very principle of operations contradict each others
SHD agents are supposed to be the best of the best, what do we get upon activation? Some bottom of the barrel stuff
We're supposed to be able to do more with less.
we are also supposed to be very flexible and out of the box, yet the moment we do something out of line our watch go red
But nobody told you when you signed up that you were going to be fighting Hunters, your own kind, and Black Tusk.
I guess our tech got a little bit more advanced in the 7 months between games, but we also lost a lot.
Stations, cover reinforcements, tactical and survival links, combat enhancing scans.
We traded that all in for... What? Bigger guns and... A modified grenade launcher?
Hell, even the rogues only reinvented land mines
yeah, most of our advanced experimental gearsets (that i think we were supposed to be equipped with in the first place) all got lost in the fire and we ended up with only the striker and a few others
I'd much rather have superhuman scan vision and deployable cover or a reinforced cover over... A hologram and a taser landmine
Though, I'll admit, getting our hands on heavy weapons is nice.
Wish the Division 1 agent had access to a minigun or an anti materiel rifle.
old pulse combined with spotter would be poggers
Old pulse was the best.
I still don't understand why they left pulse in, but made it useless.
now it just makes you see, through walls for a bit but no further purpose
Wow, it highlights enemies. That is really useful because I don't know where they are despite the 12 other ways I can find them.
it's only useful as ranged spotter for marksmen sitting afar, or in extreme weather, but that is it
It should really have some sort of bonus attached to it. Like increased crit chance or highlights weak points or something.
Because it's just an overlay, which my radar can already point me in the direction of an enemy and when they shoot at me, I get a threat indicator. I can find them easily enough from there.
yeah, that aspect still somewhat exists but is locked behind overcharge
Not like it matters. I use drones. They find the enemies for me and even highlight them.
What is the gadget reward for Lau? Isn't it a trap variant?
For Lau? It's the Achilles Pulse.
Ah.
headshots, basically.
Well. At least that makes Pulse useful for something.
Banshee Pulse is king in frontline DPS, what you talking about.
it makes weakpoints that deal headshot dmg on an enemy, most likely to roll with the new tact .308
we were talking about the normal variant
You just said "pulse", and there's about to be 5 of them.
Banshee pulse isn't even a pulse, it's a crowd control device lmao.
It's in the same category, that's all that matters.
by that train, Jammer Pulse isn't a pulse because its main use is Drones in DH.
what is "normal" pulse to you?
scanner
Replace it with scan grenades from Future Soldier
we do have the scan grenade tho, remote pulse is it
True
Scanner and Remote are both similar-ish.
i prefer that over the scanner
I forgot that was there already
Yeah, you can direct it then.
It still just isn't worth it.
Every skill has some kinda use, nothing is really "useless" exactly.
Not when it fills a skill slot that anything else can be used for
i got an idea, make spotter benefit your whole team and pulse would become more useful for support guys
It's useless when you have only 2 slots at a time and 30 skills. At least one or two are simply going to be not good enough to ever be useful when compared to the others.
It's like Siege operators. There's 60 of them. Some just aren't going to be as useful and will never be good.
yeah, if i am not running something specific said slots are usually occupied by heal pill and rehive
Mine are generally filled by gun turret and gun drone.
That's the difference I guess. I never run more than one "i dont wanna die" skill at a time.
how do you get emp sticky bomb shooter
Roosevelt Island: Manhunt.
season 1 manhunt
I don't think you can rn.
damn
you level up a certain amount in this season, it will unlock that mission
You'd have to get up in season 4 ranks to unlock it maybe
im max season 4
Tidal Basin = Repair Trap.
Coney Island AP = Shrapnel TRap.
You can do them all right now, just gotta reach Lvl 58 in the Season Pass then "toggle mission mode" at that location./
then you should have it unlocked
Oh it unlocks them all? I thought it was just 1 season mission specifically. Huh.
I only know lore. Not game mechanics.
Well Lvl 58 unlocks the 3rd one, to be specific.
nah it unlocked different missions at different levels
By lvl 58 you have all 3 open permanently.
God no. Fuck that mission.
is it hard
I wish you good luck.
You can do it on Normal, so no.
Nnnno, it isn't hard.
well im bored so im gonna do it on heroic
It's.... Frustrating?
it is frustrating
is there mechanics
Honestly? Tidal Basin is the worst one by far.
i have to know
Yes.
especially those emp, fuck those things
bruh what
There's a OHK EMP thing.
mechanics
Working out how the repair trap worked that first time, i still have nightmares.
That was in Manning Zoo too though, so I was prepared for it.
Oh yeah. Fuck that gas, too.
Anyone got an Alexa and tried those comms thing?
is the repair trap good
It's so simple once you get it, but up until then ugh.
ive never seen somebody use it
Yeah. It's cool I guess.
Itâs not the place to ask,but I guess itâs ok?kinda replaces heal chem if done right
we discussed the heal trap in another discord, it works like an agent carwash that we could move between
It's situational. It can be good. It can also be kinda useless.
it needs coordinated team to shine, otherwise nah
^
Who recorded them,and whoâs this Carter dude?
Repair Trap is downright OP when used right, but yeah hard to get it right.
whats your opinion on pvp
Sir, this is a Wendy's
I thought it was a Subway
this is for lore chat mainly. Happy to chat about it elsewhere tho.
oh
you should bail from this chat before something is spoiled for you.
Spoiler alert: PvP sucks
Anyway can anybody answer this?
Something we can all agree on
havnt really listened to it, could not comment
Some dude. It's deep lore tbh
Carter?
Or the recorder?thought it was K until I heard like,3 shots
The hell are you two on about?
The supplemental recordings you can access via an Amazon Alexa
A comm you can get on Alexa
Oh, then not-lore. Gotcha.
Just say âAlexa,open the Division networkâ
It's lore
If it's no in-game comms, then I don't care.
Or atleast side lore
It's just... Not referenced anywhere else.
I am not buying a surveillance device for my home so I can get some not-lore for Div2.
only cares about in-game
Massive tells half the Lore in multimedia because Ubisoft has a fetish for multimedia
You know YouTube is a thing right?
I wish I didn't have an Alexa, but I didn't make this choice
This entire conversation is pointless either way, I'm not capable of using an Alexa.
Then who?your gf?
None of your business?
Also how can an agent go rogue without changing the watch color?
Agents don't change their watch colour, ISAC does.
Chill man,Iâm just joking around
Either way. Short story shorter, the Alexa comms imply nothing because it's self-contained
Or the dumb AI
i vaguely recall from someone who had read the book that there are workarounds
If we could pick a colour, I'd go for purple.
I would go for green
I'd do people or blue. Maybe white.
purple the best
Rainbows so no one can tell if Iâm going rogue
giggity
a true chad, RGB watch switching color every 3 seconds
Yes. Before ANNA, black tusk kept their rogues hidden in ISAC.
You know what, orange white and purple. Seems more fitting.
That's a crime against fashion
Agent GamerGuy
Fine. Then I want black, white, and grey.
How original
Silence, Mod.
If you say "plm", I am leaving.
No jannies allowed
Silence, gamer
Silence normal people
i guess that's more black white and blue than grey.
trying to work out what black white and grey is now.
Neutral colors
black is a shade, not a colour.
I guess it shifts color every time?
And white is a tint.
Or after a registered kill?
white on most flags is more cream than white tho
Strategic Homeland Gamers
oooooooh fancy
sorry, couldnt resist
I'm wheezing, riv
dammit i missed that
Surprised nobody said Brown
nobody wants a poop watch
Shit watch shit watch shit watch
Piece of shit wristwatch
âPiece of shit wristwatchâ
Okay, lemme see
Goldenrod, vermilion, and azure would be good watch colors
Is that what you named your 3 hunting dogs?
I knew eating crayons as a kid would be useful at some point in my life.
"smithers, release the hounds"
How about red as a default color and orange when you go rogue?
Kinda confuses everyone at the BoO
red is often used as shorthand for evil, which is why it's like that now.
okay time to go eat something. play nice u2.
Uhhh how about black?(Tusk uniform)
Good meal then
I want orange, green and white
Go on home, Black Tusk soldiers, go on home. Have you got no fucking homes of your own?
Where do the remnants of the faction stay?
Like what,Tusk is gonna share a room with the Undergroundâs?
I wonder how many people are in the factions
tbh isnt all division warzones pretty much an overscaled gang war?
Possibly they are a overscaled gang war, who knows
couple thousands?
Red is a heroic color
red is the color of the soviet union and china
insert glorious USSR anthem
good work comrade

red is the color of heroic and sacrifice , and sometimes stands for conflict
It's stood for violence, death, and war for longer than recorded human history.
That's one of those historic, inbred genetic memories we as a species have.
Red is a more competitive color as well. This has been found in several studies over the years for gaming.
People, people, I was making a joke. No need to get all weirdly real about it.
Red also makes everything go faster
red means scary
red are bad!!!
And so is blood!
blod fo da blod goud
I wonder if circe is either gonna take either a west side of the map or a east side of the map or a south side of the map when she gets released
Woah president Ellis is working with the black tusk?!?!
I knew something was off about him
Maybe the keener one?
So... Excluding the fact that we create a new agent, are we the same agent from D1 or an entirely new one here in D2?
We've theorized to be either.
Theres a corpse in the WONY opening that looks like the default Div1 agent
we might even be one of the gassed to death agents in city hall
i just got Magnus's first comm and damm i like him
well wait till you get the other 3
"oh i want comfy kneepads that doesnt stick mud on it,can you call your sister real quick and tell her that?"
his team hates him
yeah i can guess he's a bit annoying
well i'm ok with him, he dropped me a set of DeathGrips 5.11 gloves with good rolls
Odin just dropped me chameleon and its not even AR targeted loot there
things happen, chameleon and go-bag are some of the common exotic drops from the weirdest of places
in all seriousness,Magnus reminds me of myself when i try to convince people to play with me
i imagine him being assigned as rogue for trying to add mudproof slides on his shd tech
well a mug-clogged roller cant roll
I would just imagine that all of the rogues weâve killed in the build up to Faye are all imposters,and the final fight will involve all 5 of them
Which makes for an epic final fight,considering how this is the end of the line
tbh i still stand by the outcome won't be as rewarding, her change was sudden and massive, there is more to how things are going then we realize, if not then i overestimated the writers
Maybe she was a sleeper agent for the Tusk before all of this shit happened?
She helped with funding Gordon,orchestrated Vitalyâs kidnapping,and let Keener into the BoO
I'm hoping for a big plot twist. I really dont want to kill Faye. đŚ
In my head-canon, it was my DC agent that was sneaking into the BoO every night to re-break her leg.
the plot twist is that faye turned rogue to destroy BTSU and Ellis from the inside
plot twist... faye turned rogue to take over the btsu herself and overthrow ellis and the others. bam, bingo bango bongo.
Plot twist, Faye is rogue with no caveat and we gotta put the traitor down.
plot twist: Faye fucking dies
thatâs actually from a leak lol
I can even provide a link
Why is there even a game spoilers channel. Who gives a fuck about the story of the Division or in generell Ubisoft games
Some of us do.
Some Ubisoft games have great stories, and some are story driven themselves. Spoiling a game's ending is a shitty thing to do to someone who is invested in the story of a game.
Spoiling a games ending, or plot points is just plain mean.
durr,,,, ubesoft bad = bad strory!
Finally,normalization
Wait you trust datamining?
The whole point of the Division series was to have a story about a pandemic causing society to collapse, which shines light on the darker side of humanity, not for killing randos in the Dark Zone.
Unless you've joined the Discord just to diss Ubisoft I guess
this is what I'm hoping!!
Guess she is just sour and vengeful to JTF for her sister's loss, and just tries to take out the "top man in charge of the mess" aka POTUS
Applied that logic,Kajika would just go to dc and find POTUS
Her turning red to go after Tusk sounds so stupid,itâs almost like a fangirl fanfiction
He is now public enemy
So why donât she like âhey can you help me find him?â
Canât wait to give her the L
so at the end of WONY when we try to get to the ferry, are the black tusk defending Keener?
or just happen to be getting in our way?
trying to kill him
he turned on them during coney island
Is Circe this week or next week?
next week
Nice
yeah, basically keener just wanted to screw over black tusk by using cleaners. black tusk aren't really doing it for the 'good' of people to kill keener, they just wanted their vengeance lol.
then you dont know what good Story games are
agreed
Then youâre just built different
Wait is co**ie a Nono word?
Lets not spam the chat.
why
Rule 2 is why.
@cold bramble In Germany we also say: Wenn ein Mod dir sagt dass du den Chat nicht spammen sollst hĂśr auf ihn oder es heiĂt "Auf Nimmerwiedersehen"!
ist da extra ein Reim eingebaut oder war das ausversehen
It wasn't on purpose but I feel it makes it sound even better that way. đ
I am but we are talking english here
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plot twist faye doesnt die and she kills kelso
They get into a catfight and the winner takes us
Plot twist:there was never a...plot twist?
Never has been
Iä Iä Fre'edom fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Fre'edom Americ'a wgah'nagl fhtagn!
worships freedom in an altar
Just totally out of curiosity,what language is that?
From the apostrophes, seems like some garbled version of the traditional Cthulhu chant.
R'lyehian, i believe its called.
Ah yes,Cthulhu,the language of freedom
Making fanfic canon is even more sinister than EAâs business practices
I think the word you're looking for there is "creepy".
lmaooooo
I donât think EA is worth calling creepy
No but that comment is.
đŽ
Wait why am I surprised?
Last time a fanfic ever became canon,people hated it
Hint:thereâs no fucking hint,itâs Star Wars the movies
why even try to guess
itâs already been leaked
I donât think theyâre gonna change stuff
Leaks arent always reliable.
*are almost never
ftfy
theyâre not gonna be just changing stuff
Sure, but is the leak reliable? Until it actually happens, we'll have to wait and find out.
What leak is this?
the reddit leak
idk if Iâm allowed to post links here
but I highly doubt they would change the stuff now
makes no sense
Reddit varies wildly in how trustworthy they are for actual info leaks. It's always worth taking what you read with a grain of salt.
most leaks in reddit do not make sense, few are, just my observation
Ever since a certain incident in Boston, I refuse to take anything that site seems to collectively agree on seriously.
Tell me
And then base on how stupid it sounds,we can tell if itâs fake or not
I donât mind pmâs
it comes from a guy who leaked WONY and other year 1-2 stuff half a year in advance
Question:at which point was crazy Chinese woman showed her true agenda to kill Ellis?
@gaunt ice just read the thing
Hunters are just people who uses coyote for too long and get high on spices forever
Changed my mind
Serious question:has there been any time that datamining is correct about lores?
the leaks about the seasons have been pretty accurate
So I spoke to this guy,and he showed me some leaks that is believed to be datamining
So,Chinese K goes rogue only to kill potus
And doesnât tell anybody until the final moments
Thatâs stupid
yeah ive read that in the leaks about season 4, and if thats how things are ending, idk
You absolutely refuse to believe people talk huh?
?
Can someone dm me the link of that Reddit post?
Who?
Pink?
Alp pls explain more
What?i just asked
Just finished reading the post, interesting stuff
she wouldnât be able to explain anyone else why she did this
no one would believe her
not really sure what she would accomplish if she killed him like that out of nowhere
people will be able to find a new president
Or SHD would take over
since they canât take down the president by themselves
Which leak
send it in dms
is that welsh
doesn't translate from welsh so probably not
i see something that looks like someone had a brain hemorrhage and dropped onto their keyboard and i think its welsh
i see the term fhtagn and instantly recognize it as an H.P. Lovecraft literature reference, i believe specifically a reference to either Shadow Over Innsmouth or Call of Cthulhu, maybe something else
cant remember
i just know its a Cthulhu-Cult language joke
its also a joke about america, presumably
it has freedom in it lmao
spoiler everyone fucking dies
XD
hahahahaha
Guess who forgot to brought the nuke briefcase with them in White Oaks
Kelso goes C a t h a r s i s as she nukes everyone
Nah instead it will be the ending of Far Cry 5
You know,the canon one
Alani Joseph
Head canon now,and you canât change my mind
yes
Amazing grace how sweet the sound. He saved a rioter like me-!
Its my sacred chant of worshipping freedom and warding of the evils of LMB/BTSU/True Sons/Cleaners etc
Dm me too đ
Marchons, marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons!
what do u get when you have maxed shd lvl, do you only get scavenging or do u still get 1 per 5 lvls
1 scavenging per level
pog
999, but yeah all Scavenging after that.
i am going to grind out as many levels as i can and i have two targets too do as i've stopped playing to conserve the xp i can get when the RE event is active
very bruh indeed
do you guys think president ellis would be a manhunt target
nah old man is too much of a pussy to be a target
unlikely, he may be hiding behind BT leaders like a smol kiddo
i saw 'It's time for President Ellis to face justice, but first you'll need to contend with Faye Lau' so i thought they are like giving us a clue or something
but idk how far they are going with this seasons stuff
we don't know, all we can do is wait and see
From Black Tusk's high tech gear, command structure and large manpower it can be theorised after the Green Poison attack they incorporated a big part of the US military into their structure.
So the BT attack is the start of a US civil war?
Careful you don't fall over, from reaching so hard.
lol
hahahaha
I wish, since that's what all the flipping marketing was about
Instead it's Division good, everyone else that isn't green on your hud bad
Does Cassie sell different wares to different players?
Or is this the wrong channel to ask this?
this channel is for theorycrafting.
and no, she sells the same items to everyone
with an exception for hunter box unlocked items.
Ok bet
No, but we can play as blue Agents. Sometimes green or purple too.
Wait really?
Rogue = bad guy SHD
Rouge = Red.
if given the chance or real, I'd like to play as a green or pink agent, please. đ¤Ł
Oh right,grammar
Mine is gonna be black and gold with purple highlights.
as all my warframes are.
ooohh, classy
ive got a theme.
RGB,do that everyone will know Iâm a gamer and proceed to isolate me for the rest of my life
I love that rgb just became the default for game stuff without people realising it was a rainbow.
aaaaanyway, kinda hyped up to fight Lau now. I'm expecting a bigger than normal Manhunt for her final step.
I mean,the R stands for Rainbow already
was more about what the rainbow normally represents lol.
The sky after the rain:)
more than or aside from that, I suppose
:p
Well yeah but people donât scream âomg lgbt keyboardâ
That sounds so stupid,right Rivsie?
they shouldn't, that would be a war :D
I have huge respect for the lgbt community. I have lots of friends there. some of them I asked to play with me :D
staying right away from this one
Ok new topic:how about we go to pentagon for next manhunt
Could be possible itâs a last minute change
Or a twist
Cuz we did saw all of them at Pentagon,s3 trailer
maybe... s4?
Oh no,not liberty island
Yes now is s4
hopefully not haha but somewhere in NY is my guess
seems there is no manhunt missions yet which was set in NY
True
and some of Faye and Coswald's comms are there too
bad way of guessing but that is my best bet
if not NY, it's fine haha
Don't even suggest that, they might hear you.
plot twist: Lau's Manhunt is just Liberty island regular mission 13 times.
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I love your profile picture!
Thanks! someone made it for me and it is absolutely badass.
(im not sure if that person wants a promo or not)
10/10 would rogue for it
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it is, indeed
uhm... hahahaha
ah i see you changed your name again riven
Anarchy is more than just an idea. Anarchy is mankind's salvation.
Reason number 3 why I change it so constantly.
these hoes aint loyal
hahahaha same sentiments
wait until next week. we will all get that sweet chance. hahaha
damn i hate LMB
damm i love coffee so much
cleaners are still better than any other faction
atleast it was for a good cause
there,i started a topic
i like the cleaner apparel from the apprel event with all the different factions
i have the cleaner tech apparel on my main
I just hate those bombers so op they speed they charge at you out of nowhere
Advice: Shoot them first. If you dont want them to explode, shoot their legs/head/arms. If you want them to explode, shoot their chest.
Riot foam & shock trap both make them a non-threat. Also idk why this is in spoilers but hey
at this point the channel is more general than anything
I like to keep it as lore chat.
Not just new lore, I'm sure there's stuff from back in base-game that ppl here don't know.
e.g. today I heard a comm that mentioned that BT have to file a report every time they fire their gun.
crime rate skyrockets
ammo conservation though it would be pretty funny to see how they explain what they do most of the time
"another warcrime today jenny?"
"yeah tom, the usual"
as said on the kill screen for the true son rpg the agents turret is a war crime
What do you guys think is going to come for year 3?
Whatever they might do, I would honestly be happy with them just putting Underground into this game since that was one of the best parts of the first.
And survival
I'm making a pvp build which consists of memento, 3 pc prov, fox and something Im yet to chose
Is this any good and if so, what should the 6th piece be?
@untold blaze #td2-build-advice
liar pepelaugh
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Well yes, this is the spoiler channel.
Or is it?
dun dun dunnnn
thank you captain Obvious
What's happening on Tuesday?
Everything and nothing :)
But mainly we're getting the last manhunt target iirc
Ah, I see.
smh
Imagine Boomer with a exosuit
Like those in Infinite Warfare and Advanced Warfare
Immense strength with high agility
Iâm being serious
The guy has a record for weight lifting in his unit
And they put him in a fucking walkie shootie suit
He should have an exosuit,which helps him run around much faster or even running on the wall
Isnt he in an exosuit?
yeah he is
I mean the ones in those futuristic CoDs
It shouldâve been exoskeleton
he's already in a exosuit. He is a body builder, not a speedyboi
Yeah,but imagine him being able to utilize those strength instead of just carry some heavy gear and yeet 50 ton worth of force to you
Like,imagine him running like a rusher
And hits you in the face with his fist
what can you actually do with 50 tons of force
what would happen if you got hit with that kind of force irl
morbid curiosity
without any prior research: likely instant, painful death.
just reminds me of the fact that it takes 23034 slaps to cook a chicken
I know
But thing is,there is so much more he could do
That machine gun feels like a waste
i mean, he's already carrying an experimental suit and a minigun that can output 50 TONS of force. I'd say he's pretty well equipped for his weight class.
For comparison:
50 tons of force is ~152 kilojoules.
A 50 BMG bullet outputs about 13 to 15 kilojoules, depending on the bullet type and its powder load.
The GAU-8 Avenger's rounds, the 30x173, outputs about 202 kilojoules.
The man can punch harder than a 50 cal.
thats all napkin math and its early, but still man is stacked
Yeah just imagine if he can run and brofist people
he can?
50 cal rifle nah 60 cal han
ds
Because he doesnât even use his minigun,which is a waste
Just.Imagine
because its not a minigun.
Or whatever weapon heâs carrying
Like,there could be better stuff for him
Like a gravity spike
He's not a Titanfall Pilot, he isnt a person for Advanced Warfare. He's a walking tank, made to defeat us.
As a wipe mechanic
Yeah,a tank with a massive gun that he never cares to use
Theres a difference between being built for speed and being built for strength.
ITS NOT A GUN
Its a battering ram
But thats not its primary function.
thats a question
So why even bother adding a shooting mechanic to it?
no thats the impact device
âThatâs not its primary functionâ
Because he isnt that fast to begin with,might as well give him a thing to suppress enemies while he walks at them to deliver a BMG's worth of force to the back of their skull.
out of morbid curiosity what would happen to your body if he actually used all the force on you
imagine what a BMG does, then spread that out to a battering ram's surface, and boom
Minus the shooty skill,he could have just like,andrenalin pump to make him faster
i dont know what a bmg does
why have an adrenaline pump when you cant take damage, hung?
Do you know Caesar in Jojo?
no i dont watch jojo
You can run faster
let alone most anime
just walk/run at them until they corner them selves.
Or maybe an ant being crushed by your hand?
Yeah,like that