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round sinew
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Nice. You do WONY?

soft shuttle
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Huh

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Ohh the dlc. Yeah pretty awesome. I got the pestilence aswell and i love it.

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Searched a build on youtube and im following it. Kinda like teemo in league of legends 😂

round sinew
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Nice. Seems like you're all caught up fast.

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Only thing you missed would've been the first manhunt.

soft shuttle
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Is that the one where they were named as planets ?

round sinew
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Yep.

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Jupiter's manhunt.

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They're still good guys and I will always maintain that.

tall tendon
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There are no good or bad guys

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Just people who sometimes do good things and sometimes do bad things

soft shuttle
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I pretty much enjoy the game but sadly since there arent many na clans its kinda getting annoying playing solo lol

steel radish
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Yeah I think the division is a separate timeline from the Clancyverse

round sinew
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Well, the Clancyverse itself is in a separate timeline from the rest of Tom Clancy.

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Flashback to a time when Ubi worked more closely with Tom Clancy himself to keep the games and books and all media relatively together.

tall tendon
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Apparently he doesn't return their calls anymore

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/s

steel radish
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That’s dark

tall tendon
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You think they'll ever ditch the Tom clancy name

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I don't think anyone buys the game because it has his name on it and it seems abit wierd to keep using it

bright snow
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I'm pretty sure trademark lawyers say the name stays.

round sinew
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^

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It's become a trademark, a brand/franchise.

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Besides, his estate makes bank on it.

valid swallow
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.

steel radish
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Thank you for such valuable input

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Such a useful response

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Adds so much to the conversation

uneven coyote
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round sinew
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narrow gorge
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Tom Clancy games are my favorite. I'll definitely look more into it with his name on it 😂

vague crane
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So... Another glorified clothing event is the "highly requested feature since Division 1"... How's everyone feeling about that?

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I'm, for lack of a better term, a bit disappointed.

obtuse robin
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I’ve given up on the game. Same shit different season. Div 2 is nothing what D1 was

steel radish
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It’s not like they said the feature was big

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Just requested

cold bramble
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To be honest, I don't understand the desire for transmog. Not saying I think it's a negative, I just don't get it in a game like this where we have a ton of appearance items already.

Seems like a hide piece feature would have been better than the ability to transmog said pieces. Idk, I guess it's something for some people to tinker with until Skyscraper.

I personally rarely even notice my character's appearance beyond their shoulder and crosshair (which needs a color changing feature on console). But perhaps, that's just me.

tall tendon
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I think so

steel radish
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I mean they wouldn’t have added it if nobody wanted it

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I definitely wanted it

static bay
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No one's going to convince me that nobody wants to wear Striker's as a cosmetic

steel radish
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Lol they have to grind strikers now

static bay
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yeah dude

steel radish
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Because nobody keeping it in the stash

static bay
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Honestly this update gives birth to the greatest meme of all time

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Wearing 6P Striker's as a cosmetic.

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Now not only can you wear 6P Striker's, you can wear it without affecting your DPS, and it even looks good

round sinew
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I keep Striker's in my backpack...

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I have a full 6P set of Striker's in a loadout slot in case I want to be a glass cannon in PVE.

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I guess making vanity separate from gear worn is nice. Wouldn't have been my first request to add to the game, but I guess it doesn't affect any balance or anything... also doesn't give me anything new to do other than keep waiting for the end of the Manhunt.

sinful cave
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I made a shocking discovery! I was roaming new york in the division 2 dlc and I have subtitles on. I overheard civilian's saying "Black Tusk are paranoid. Who wouldn't be?". How do they know of the Black Tusk's existence? Plus the Black Tusk are extremely secretive being able to have an literal army in the shadows for so long before they invaded D.C

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I didn't get a screenshot because It happened too quickly

silent geyser
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They probably are warned not to go close to them??

vague crane
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My assumption would be that they are aware of them from their interactions with them in the open world. It seems, at least in my experience, they are most often the ones who are responsible for "hostage rescue" missions.

silent geyser
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I mean suicide drones can kill any civilian.

sinful cave
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What if the Black Tusk has an ongoing deal with the Haven settlement which is why they were reluctant of the Division's support.

silent geyser
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possible but black tusk dont go to ny

vague crane
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They also dealt with them when the civilians lost the missions/strongholds when the BT invaded when your agent moved from level 30 to WT5.

sinful cave
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They knew they couldn't hit D.C because that's where the Division is. Plus Keener is in New York so the Black Tusk has some presence. Keener and his rogues attacked the JTF headquarters in New York bringing anarchy. If the SHD returned to stabilize it then the Black Tusk essentially moved tons of problems out of their way, paving a way for an invasion. We see Faye Lau on a boat at the end talking to the BTSU's leader, Brandon, so are those Black Tusk boats. She ordered them to fall back. This means they were either planning an assault or were just there for Keener.

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But at the time of the DLC, D.C is either still taken by the BTSU or taken back by SHD.

silent geyser
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Umm interesting

static bay
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Just wanted to bring attention to the fact that in The Ark, there's this infected lady who you give the antivirals too. Even after you do that, she never leaves the area. She just sits there. In that stuffy storage room. Forever.

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Side note, that area is a secret safe zone. You can't fire weapons or use skills in there. Also, it's not like she has to be worried about infecting someone else. Since you gave her the antivirals, she's cured.

round sinew
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Yeah i remember that

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The contaminated zones are interesting to find.

calm raft
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@static bay As far as I remember she moves to the Theater and takes care of infected people there, ground floor i think. Though never went back to check if she is also still in the Ark as well 🤔

static bay
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I did, and she still is.

sharp fiber
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I just watched through NGN's videos about the first-wave agents that escaped from the dark zone whose badges and watches were found around NYC. Wouldn't it have been perfect if any of them turned up in the manhunt, being part of Keener's crew?

fluid crater
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Omg that would be great. Or... If your adgent from the first division ended up being in the manhunt

tall tendon
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Id love to play as a first wave agent in another game

robust turtle
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Like Mario kart 😂

tall tendon
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Gimme faye lau in super smash bros

robust turtle
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super smashin

glad spruce
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Alright, just finished Titan and Hornet. Hornet got some pretty interesting audio logs.

Apparently, Hornet was being contacted by Bardon Schaeffer and trying to recruit the rogue agent to Black Tusk. Hornet refused. There's also another audio log between him and and unknown leader of another rogue cell regarding delivery arrangements for the Eclipse

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Also, I noticed there's a section in the database menu showing off prototype blueprints of SHD skills. Is that something new that got added recently?

sharp fiber
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Thought it might have to do with why all the bounties were black tusk, but maybe I'm overthinking

glad spruce
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Technically, only bounties involving Titan has Black Tusk.

But yeah, its more clear that they're on a recruiting drive for Rogue Agents

glad spruce
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In any case, Hornet is dead for good this time. Although we still have plenty of Rogue Agents who bought into Keener's bullshit equipped with a handful of the Eclipse Virus.

cold bramble
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Does an echo called pleased to meet you mr president exist?

pseudo cliff
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Just wanted to bring attention to the fact that in The Ark, there's this infected lady who you give the antivirals too. Even after you do that, she never leaves the area. She just sits there. In that stuffy storage room. Forever.
@static bay what are u talking about??

static bay
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What do you mean? There's literally a woman in The Ark, a contaminated area, who just stays there forever

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even after she's cured.

round sinew
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^

pseudo cliff
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What ark??@static bay

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I'm so confused

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OH I'm a fucken idiot

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I
Now I remember the nun

static bay
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Hellu, in your opinion, which rooms or CPs in Division 2 are the best for a PVP shooter? I'm creating a simple custom map for a shooter and I need something familiar

steel radish
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Theo Parnell’s boss room

low mural
steel radish
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The start of Capitol

tall tendon
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Ew no

steel radish
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Tidal basins last room

tall tendon
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For a pvp shooter I wouldn't suggest anywhere that's predominantly a large open area

low mural
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Smh I like sniping

tall tendon
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Sure you can have some lanes and some open section

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But not 80% of the map with a few pillars

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Guess it depends on the pvp shooter tbh

low mural
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Though if it’s tidal basin make it in day

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It’s way too dark to actually see anything

tall tendon
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What about the Vietnam part of American history museum

low mural
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That could be interesting

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But shotguns will dominate there

tall tendon
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How aboutttt

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Lt Gray area

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Or that subway starting area

low mural
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Hmm that sounds pretty nice

tall tendon
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Can't remember the mission name

low mural
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Er

tall tendon
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There's not too many areas big enough imo

low mural
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Yeah

tall tendon
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The one with the hotel

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And the shopping mall

low mural
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Shopping mall might be a little campy

tall tendon
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Nah but I mean that mission

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Fml why can't I remember the name

low mural
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Dua lol

tall tendon
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Jefferson plaza I think

steel radish
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When I hear pvp I was thinking more 1v1

static bay
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also yes I'm thinking of making a map for Krunker. Asking here because the people here are the guys who are really into the aesthetics and design of the game

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Lincoln memorial boss room might be nice though

loud schooner
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Lincoln memorial boss room might be nice though
@static bay yee

pseudo quail
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Some of the rooms from the Capitol building would be good too

bright snow
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Lincoln kill room for a more cramped experience.

round sinew
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Hot take: Titan is a douche. Fuck Titan.

steel radish
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Works with humans to wipe out humanity

glad spruce
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@cold bramble Its not available until Faye Lau's Manhunt comes out

steel radish
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Who now

glad spruce
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That Division agent who went rogue at the end of WONY's story campaign

steel radish
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Yeah I know

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She’s gonna be a manhunt?

glad spruce
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I mean, she has to. We still have some score to settle 😛

steel radish
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Yeah but we can settle it in another game :(

tall tendon
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I don't wanna kill faye lau really

steel radish
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Not in one of these shallow seasonal manhunts

tall tendon
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Or at all

lucid grove
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Ye her going rogue is such lazy writing imo

tall tendon
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Kinda ruins a load of div 1 story for me

lucid grove
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Yup, Faye didn’t have a reason to go rogue. Most agents turned rogue due to their dissatisfaction with governmental decisions and motives.

tall tendon
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Maybe she was pissed it took so long to fix her leg

lucid grove
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Yet Faye only turned rogue bc someone fucking sniped her sister

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Lmao

tall tendon
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Didn't we save her sister

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In the first game

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Where's the loyalty

low mural
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In D1 her sister died cause rikers raided Hell’s Kitchen

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And the jtf were asleep

tall tendon
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Jtf are just useless

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So all this is their fault

low mural
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Spongy af tho

tall tendon
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Buncha twats

static bay
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Jtf are just useless
@tall tendon Except Thunderbird. Never forget Thunderbird.

glad steppe
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Come on he stopped the hovercraft

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Otherwise they would just drive away with it

steel radish
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I think there was something about JTF gradually pulling out of New York

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So there was a gap in between schedules of guarding Hell’s Kitchen

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So sister gets bullet

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Faye angry

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Holds down T

mint citrus
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New York was getting safer and then it wasn't

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Somehow everything we did in 1 got undone

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Which kinda sucks

lost lark
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lol

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and then d3 happens

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and everything done in d2 is undone

glad steppe
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BT suddenly controls DC

mint citrus
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Gosh I hope not

pseudo cliff
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I just hope I can use my current agent

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Lmao

tall tendon
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Nah I want a fresh start

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I want to play as a first wave agent

steel radish
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That would be cool

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Going rogue in the LZ

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Trying to survive in the DZ alone

pseudo cliff
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My agent is a first wave agent from NY

tall tendon
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But not really

steel radish
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Technically you would be rogue then

pseudo cliff
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Not if u got out

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And not put in Manhattan

steel radish
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But you are in Manhattan in NY

pseudo cliff
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There's other parts of the city agents where out in

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Put*

round sinew
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Yup, Faye didn’t have a reason to go rogue. Most agents turned rogue due to their dissatisfaction with governmental decisions and motives.
@lucid grove
Most agents went rogue because they're fucking loony

steel radish
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Or they wanted some good gear

tall tendon
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Tbh

steel radish
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Maybe some pvp

tall tendon
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Why wouldn't you go rogue

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It's the apocalypse fuck listening to a bunch of other people

round sinew
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Like Hornet's team is full of psychos and nutjobs who never should've passed a mental stability review.

tall tendon
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This is america

steel radish
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“Eco Terrorist who wants to wipe out humanity”

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Yep that’s hero material right there sign him up

round sinew
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Jupiter and Keener's teams are at least mostly written as competent and stable, but very self-serving

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Minus a couple exceptions.

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But Hornet's team must have a rule about being some jihadi fanatic.

steel radish
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Loonies attract loonies

round sinew
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The only relatively stable guy was Huntsman, and he only went rogue because he was simping for Keener

steel radish
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Luna seemed pretty stable

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Huntsman went rogue to join the LMB

round sinew
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I guess Luna is stable, too. But Hornet, Titan, and that other woman are wacky cartoon villains.

steel radish
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Lmao “eradicating the weak” how cliche

round sinew
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Meanwhile Jupiter, who's working for the same fucking guy as Hornet, is going in to do the opposite of Hornet's team.

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Should've just let them kill each other off

steel radish
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At least Jupiter has a somewhat noble cause

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I think, I wasn’t here during season 1

round sinew
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Her cause is literally "Kill corrupt division and kill the nutjob Outcasts"

steel radish
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Oh I thought she had something to do with removing the virus

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But that’s more the cleaners talking

round sinew
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Yeah. She was going to DC with her team and some Cleaners to wipe out the Outcasts

steel radish
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Good

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Outcasts should die

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Smh

round sinew
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Exactly. We only executed them because they were rogue and getting in our way, too.

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But tbh it would've been pragmatic to make an agreement with them.

steel radish
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I don’t think agents would ever collaborate with rogues

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By extension that would make them rogue too

round sinew
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Yeah how dare they show grey morality in the game.

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It's just rogue bad and not rogue good.

steel radish
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Yeah we need some grey rogues

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It’s as if there’s a requirement to start snapping JTF necks as soon as you go rogue

static bay
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^is this a Star Wars reference

round sinew
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It's kinda why I liked a game like Assassins Creed Rogue because it showed how both the good guys and the bad guys are more or less the same and each have their faults and paragons

steel radish
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Like Parnell could’ve been good but he goes ahead and shoots JTF soldiers in the head

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Just to make sure we know they’re the villains

round sinew
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I wanna see more of that in Division, because it seems they keep hinting at how agents to Rogue for diverse reasons, but then never really flesh it out and instead they have the Rogues do some crazy shit like bomb a hospital or create the Eclipse virus

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Like there was an early theory that Kelso might've gone rogue only because she wants to be more brutal against her enemies or whatever. That could've been a good setup to show that even though Kelso goes Rogue, she's not some mass-killing traitor and that her opinions and methods differ or something. Idk, I'm not explaining clearly, but I know there's something there

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I think I'm still just mad that Keener had to be genocidal. I wanted to like him, but then he became a cartoon villain.

pseudo cliff
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Faye and Kenner had pretty good reasons for going rogue

round sinew
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Keener had a great reason to go rogue.

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Then Massive wasted his potential by making him a psychopath.

pseudo cliff
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Kenner was left for dead by the jtf, when a civilian safehouse was under attack he called for backup and the jtf said no

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The jtf refused to help and just let agents die

round sinew
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Dude could've had a whole final showdown speech about how there government is corrupt and needs replacing or something, make you feel sympathy for his reasoning.

pseudo cliff
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Ye

round sinew
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Instead we get "hee hoo scud missile I'm a terrorist"

pseudo cliff
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I started to feel bad for the rogues under him

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Like Theo

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All their wanted was to find out what happened to his dad

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All Theo*

round sinew
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He was a conspiracy nutjob and the sad thing is he was almost right.

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Could've been cool for him to discover Black Tusk, have it so they're the ones who killed his dad, and he flips and works with you.

pseudo cliff
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During all these rogue hunts I've just wanted to take them alive

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So I could try and help them come back

round sinew
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I guess my issue is the story I want is more for a single player game, not an MMO.

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MMO's aren't really an ideal platform for deep plots.

pseudo cliff
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Ya

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Dragov made the most sense

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He left because he saw the corruption

tall tendon
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Who knows the real reason for everyone leaving

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You just believe what you're told

pseudo cliff
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If you read the lore it says

round sinew
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Okay lol but Dragov was a meme.

pseudo cliff
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Ya pretty much

round sinew
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"MY FAMILY" shut the fuck up, Dragov you're a gangster

pseudo cliff
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So far I like Titan the most

round sinew
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Nah, he's too cartoonish for me.

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I'm still working on killing him, but I hate his profile and his audio logs are dumb

pseudo cliff
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My agents lore was she escaped NYC after her team was killed by rogues and lmb at a Cera hospital

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Ya Titans log doesn't make much sense

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Firefighter Mrs look out for there own if you where the only surviver you fucked up big time

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Firefighters look out*

round sinew
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Also "I'm an ecoterrorist lol let's kill all of humanity"

pseudo cliff
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Ya it's dumb

round sinew
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I mean. It's very Tom Clancy, but... C'mon.

pseudo cliff
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My agent was a firefighter before she was activated

round sinew
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There are so many instances of ecoterrorists in Tom Clancy lore. And a lot of them plan to eradicate humanity, or try to remake the Garden of Eden or shit

pseudo cliff
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Ya it's dumb lol

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Termite pissed me off

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She wasn't a very good medic

round sinew
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They might as well be Nazis in how easy they are to hate because their goals are so ludicrously evil that it's almost laughable.

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Gimme a villain I want to join, a villain that I'm so sympathetic to I want to cry when i have to kill them.

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Like Ghost of Tsushima.

pseudo cliff
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Like termite didn't wanna help anyone she basically just wanted sick and injured people to die

steel radish
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Yall thinking up backstories for your agents

tall tendon
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Damn role players

pseudo cliff
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Lmao look at those try hards

glad spruce
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Hell yeah, I'm making up backstory for my agent. In fact, I wrote a whole ass document about it 😛

pseudo cliff
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Mood

steel radish
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Lemme make one for my agent

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He was a librarian

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Done

sonic ridge
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From reading and dusting books to reloading weapons, sounds like the coolest trasnformation

static bay
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He was a librarian
@steel radish soooo your Agent is the kind that does things by the book?

steel radish
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Yes

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Amazing pun

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10/10

static bay
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a funny joke

steel radish
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funny

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laughed

round sinew
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You know, people might like BTSU more if they stopped murdering civilians. 👀

steel radish
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Lol

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Muh sister died so lemme join the organisation that kills more civilians

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Top notch logic

devout quail
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mine would be that is loyal af to the division

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but cruel to others on its own way

cold bramble
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casually me just like; my agent is hunter through and through 😂

mint citrus
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I mean

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The game acts like Faye was shady as shit from the start and like

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I don't see that all

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The BTSU could have been an interesting counterpart to the SHD. Structure vs Cells, chain of command vs a lack of one

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Less war crimes and blatant villainy

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Maybe the BTSU is respected in other parts of the country for legit reasons

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But we just got the crazies because "cutthroats and killers, no boy-scouts"

round sinew
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I still wanna know what happened to the SHD HQs.

cold bramble
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I don’t agree with Keener nor do I agree with the division soooo

yohoyoho a hunter’s life for me!

static bay
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You know, people might like BTSU more if they stopped murdering civilians. 👀
@round sinew YES.

mint citrus
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Agreed. There's never a justification either, or if there is, it's very flimsy.

steel radish
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What actually took down the presidential plane?

mint citrus
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A Surface to Air missile

static bay
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I mean what else could take it down? A fighter jet, scrambled in the apocalypse (air to air)? Not likely.

steel radish
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Well who fired the middle

marble ocean
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The true sons

static bay
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That's the real question.

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Why would someone want the President dead? Who would? It might not even be the BTSU, because he is a very useful pawn to them.

steel radish
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Yeah who wants to kill chickenhawk

static bay
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I'm highly doubtful it's the True Sons btw, since their SAMs are pathetic

steel radish
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They’re the only half capable faction for taking down a plane

static bay
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That and the idea that Air Force One doesn't have flares is laughable

steel radish
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That actually wants the plane down

marble ocean
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From wht I learned about the true sons they were part of the military during the evacuation

static bay
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Yeah they came from the JTF

marble ocean
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And besides didn't anyone notice they had all military equipment

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They even had an anti air gun

static bay
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They did break their commander out of a holding cell though, could they have hijacked a missile later on?

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It's really not out of the question tbh

marble ocean
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Yes

static bay
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I mean yeah they had SAMs but the ones in Capitol were so trash they couldn't even hit a low flying helicopter

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I'm no expert but I'm confident those same SAMs couldn't hit Air Force One

steel radish
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I thought they had missles prepped in the air and space museum

marble ocean
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They did

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Definitely aam

static bay
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Right I forgot about those...

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It's probably them tbh, definitely not the Outcasts and Hyenas. Homemade terrorists and gangsters, yeah not likely

steel radish
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Hyenas put super powered hydraulics on their RC cars

marble ocean
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True sons had all military technology

steel radish
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Launched them up towards the plane

static bay
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Again, I'm not an expert, but I'm sure if they launched enough longer range guided missiles at Air Force One the plane would be fucked eventually

marble ocean
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Lol dont make me laugh

static bay
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Which they could get through some good ol military infiltration

marble ocean
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Yea tru

static bay
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Hyenas put super powered hydraulics on their RC cars
@steel radish HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA YOU SAW THAT VIDEO TOO?

marble ocean
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Wait wht video

static bay
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Fuck it this is my new theory, a Hyena RC loaded with C4 took down Air Force One

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Hang on let me find it, it's so funny

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Sharko help me out, idk if I can find the video

steel radish
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Idk what video you’re talking about

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That image just popped in my head

marble ocean
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I looked it up

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Couldn't find it

static bay
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Awww I can't find it. There's a video out there of a Hyena RC jumping in a ONE STOREY TALL, TWENTY METER long arc to hit a player

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It's fucking hilarious

static bay
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@marble ocean @steel radish I found a similiar post

marble ocean
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Lmao that's hilarious

steel radish
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boing

round sinew
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What's the Hornet mission like? As cancer as Jupiter's?

low mural
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No not that much

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Just lots of running thru chemicals

round sinew
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Oh boy.

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At least it isn't Insta-kill magic sound waves

glad spruce
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Yeah, the Eclipse chemicals aren't bad. Just need to douse yourself in the repair trap the hacked Warhound launches and you'll be okay

drowsy blaze
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The key you pick up at the Trap on the bed, what does it open in the Hornet hunt?

static bay
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At least it isn't Insta-kill magic sound waves
@round sinew to be fair to Jupiter, shockwaves can be quite deadly. It just makes no sense that they wouldn't destroy the jammer too.

low mural
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Because it’s emitting from the jammer

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Same reason why the eye of a hurricane has the weakest and slowest windspeed

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Not really but kinda you get the point

round sinew
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Fuuuuck you, Hornet.

steel radish
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Yeah fuck hornet

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Take his hoodie though

round sinew
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The Warhound section was cancer.

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But I think it was bad for me because I seemed to rubberband a couple times and ended up dead.

mint citrus
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Ayy killed Hornet

glad spruce
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At least he's dead this time around.

low mural
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Massive be like : ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

round sinew
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Kinda cool that a minor boss came back as a bigger nuisance.

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But they did it once so I hope they never do it again.

mint citrus
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Keener's not actually gone? Whatchu mean, Hornet?

tall tendon
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Wat

mint citrus
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Something he says to Bardon in one of the comms

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Keener's around in more ways than you think

glad spruce
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Basically, he's projecting Keener's Legacy (Eclipse)

glad spruce
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You know how Keener was obsessed over ensuring his legacy outlives him

mint citrus
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Ye

low mural
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Watch him get revived by hornet XD

glad spruce
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They're gonna need a miracle at this point to revive Keener.

cold bramble
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What if eclipse virus made you die for a while then re animated you?....

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Meaning keener died in the eclipse

round sinew
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No zombies please

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The writing is already bad, we don't need cliches to make it worse

lone zephyr
#

I mean this Keener is still alive was foreshadowed prior to Hornet. The Theo Parnell mission already stated that the ID on an agent can be switched to be anyone.

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Who is to say we actually killed Keener when he and the first wave were the only ones who could really bring the fight to the division

round sinew
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A dude was posing as Keener the whole time.

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Would be interesting but at this point impossible to pull off

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Since the guy we kill is the same guy throughout all the audio logs in the game and all interactions, he'd have been posing as Keener from the start.

tall tendon
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It's OK for keener to just be dead guys

round sinew
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And since Hornet thinks the guy is Keener, that theory falls part, because Hornet would be able to tell a fake or not.

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Since, you know, Hornet has known real Keener for years. So trying to shoehorn in a "he wasn't the real keener" would feel... Like shitty writing

static bay
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Wait am I missing something here? Kelso and the Agent looked Keener dead in the eye as he was dying, wouldn't we visually know that he WAS Keener?

round sinew
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Yes

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Ignore the loons, Maple.

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The amount of writing and retconning it would take to pull some "Keener isn't dead" or "We didn't kill the real Keener" is astronomical.

drifting lotus
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Keener doesn't need to be alive to stay one step ahead of us.

round sinew
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^^^

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The whole "Keener isn't dead" thing the rogues keep saying is a reference to the idea that he's living through them. As long as Keener's movement lives, Keener lives. He's a martyr.

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That being said, Keener is still a fucking smoothbrain unless we get some more revelations on his plans. Because "organize rogue agents to spread Eclipse" is a room temperature IQ plan.

drifting lotus
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Keener wasn't that dull. He always has a trump card. Im 100% doubtful that eclipse was the only plan.

static bay
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hahahahahahahahaha r/rareinsults

drifting lotus
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After all, he has a whole network at his disposal... It might be safe to assume that the agents we are seeing in DC and New York aren't the only agents working against us.

round sinew
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Game: Keener has genius level intelligence, he's highly motivated, highly self-interested, and highly dangerous due to his cunning and manipulative ability.
Also game: Keener's endgame is a scud aimed at New York.

static bay
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to be completely fair to Keener, the virus does count as a trump card. How are you going to hide from a BOMB that spreads an airbourne virus?

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There's nothing actually wrong with the plan in terms of impact, it's just cheesy as hell

round sinew
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But what kinda evil plan is "heehoo Smallpox 2.0"

static bay
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A very, very boring one.

round sinew
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Wow, you're a Bond villain. Good job, Keener, you fucking drooling simpleton.

drifting lotus
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Put it into perspective. He was aiming for a reset. The plan wasn't just to bomb new york once more with eclipse. The idea was to create a clean slate.

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Lives be damned.

round sinew
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Wow, an ecoterrorist, what a nuanced and advanced plan. "Kill everyone" he's such a genius.

static bay
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But wouldn't the virus cause long term effects and cause the area to be uninhabitable to all life though.

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It seems pretty cocky to just bet that the virus isn't going to mutate and jump over to wild animals

round sinew
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I was hoping with all the research, maybe he'd make some sci-fi-level genetically targeted virus. Some smallpox that only attacks Division agents or something crazy.

drifting lotus
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Nah.. he wanted everything purged.

round sinew
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You know, something like actually intelligent and somewhat scary. Instead we get genocidal GI Joe villain.

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Wait

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That's an insult to Commander Cobra. He had tact.

static bay
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Okay I think I'm overanalysing this plan way too much. It's pretty clear that I'm putting more thought into this than he did.

round sinew
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And his entire plan was derailed by canonically 2-5 angry Boogaloo boys.

static bay
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hahahahahahaha

drifting lotus
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1-4*, being stuck on a boat is a little bitch move.

static bay
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yeah actually he says that his resources are limitless, but can't defeat some mortal Agents..............

drifting lotus
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looking at you kelso

round sinew
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Kelso- okay fair

static bay
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lmao if you think that's bad, you should have seen her fight the Black Tusk. If you stop to watch, she takes about five mags to take out one bar of their armour

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no joke

round sinew
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"I can literally defeat an entire Black Tusk assault singlehandedly. But holy shit this one guy has a drone, a turret, and a sniper rifle. Guess I'll die."

drifting lotus
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Its alright, its still canon that he loses to an agent with shock rounds.

round sinew
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Man can hack endless Warhounds, and a big drone, but dies because someone tases him.

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Random encounters die with more of a struggle.

drifting lotus
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Well, if I had to be honest, hes awesomely aggressive and tooled to the teeth on heroic difficulty.

round sinew
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I just feel like he was done dirty

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He was a cool villain in Division 1

#

He was a cool villain even in the DLC... Up until his final plan is revealed.

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He compartmentalized and didn't tell any of his lieutenants the whole picture because he knew if they found out, they'd laugh at him.

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Keener was afraid of being bullied by his minions, I figured it out.

drifting lotus
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I mean

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If thats the perspective... its kinda true.

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All of the agents under him would've betrayed him if they knew what he was planning.

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considering what each of their goals are.

round sinew
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Yeah because he was gonna fucking kill them too

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It wasn't a magic "avoid my friends" missile

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I'd betray a guy too if I found it he was going to blow me up and kill me with smallpox.

primal umbra
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Yeah if you go deep into the backstories of the 4 of them.... There is no way they would willing go along with the plan. Look at Dragov..... He considered the Rikers to be families and was turning them into a twisted band of merry men and he was Robin Hood. Then Keener showed up and manipulated him by going on a killing spree of people he considered family. Dragov was only supplying Keener to lookout for those he cared about. Kajika was NYPD with a Mob boss for a father. I suspect the only one of the four that "might" go along with the whole plan is Vivian.

glad spruce
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Kajika was former black ops. I think you're referring to Dragov about his NYPD background

mint citrus
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Faye's turn to villain came outta nowhere ngl

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And it wasn't even foreshadowed at all

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She goes from considering Alicia's offer to "bring the Division to its knees" way too damn quickly

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She wasn't playing us the whole time or whatever the game said she was doing

bright wedge
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I wonder if season 3 is going to be like the last couple..."Hunt down Faye's sister's counsin's newphew's Accountant!"

steel radish
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Was it ever explained why supply drops were coming into the DZ?

round sinew
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I really don't wanna kill Faye Lau in a manhunt.

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I think she deserves more than a reskinned mission and a shitload of busy work.

steel radish
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I hope they make the manhunt more fleshed out next season

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And actually make it feel a part of the story

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Instead of just bounties and then suddenly Kelso and Manny start talking on the final mission

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When they weren’t involved whatsoever in the hunt for the others

round sinew
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Yeah. I just get sick of the cycle: 3-4 repeat missions for no reason. 1-2 of the longer missions. a dozen control points. A dozen pointless bounties. 4 bounties but this time the bounty is a division agent, then basically an Invaded mission.

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I wish they'd just cut out the missions and CPs. Those are really the things that kill me because they're so... Pointless.

steel radish
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I kinda wish the lieutenants acted as an invasion

round sinew
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Rather than a slightly-longer bounty? Yes.

steel radish
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Like you have to do a bunch of missions and Kelso gives you some info on the target and their connections yada yada

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At least it would make it feel more story focused

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Instead of just “the target is near you agent”

round sinew
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Ye. If each season was more like one of the event sets, I'd be more stoked.

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Tbh, the best way to organize that might be something like Kenly College. Make each Manhunt an expedition.

steel radish
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Yeah, but I’d doubt they will make a new location, let alone 4 every season

round sinew
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Well, Kenly is more like 1 location for 3 missions.

steel radish
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Oh wait you meant the whole manhunt takes place in one location

round sinew
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Yes.

steel radish
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Yeah that would be cool

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But it’d make it feel like less of a hunt

round sinew
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Give you a new central point you fly to, and you complete the 4 lieutenant missions in any order with some other crazy ass objectives, then you unlock the final mission to kill the BBEG.

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Honestly, I'm willing to lose the "hunt" feeling for a less monotonous feeling.

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If I have to trade out the hunting feeling so I can avoid 8-10 weeks of bounties, CPs and repeating missions resulting in a single Invaded mission and instead experience something entirely new, I'm down.

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That's half the reason I liked Kenly College. It was new and interesting. Even if the missions are bullshit-levels of tedious, it was at least something different from the rest of the game.

steel radish
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Yeah the objectives should definitely be changed up

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But I don’t really wanna them to be all in one location

round sinew
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Kenly is really just a single-player Raid.

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With all "defend the point" objectives lol.

steel radish
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It’d just seem weird

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Oh yeah there’s this rogue agent cell and they’re all here

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But you can’t kill them until two weeks later

round sinew
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Well, don't put the 2 week timer in, just release the whole thing at once.

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Or they could do something else, and reskin missions for each rogue agent in the cell, I wouldn't hate that, but they'd definitely run out of mission locations fast.

steel radish
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Yeah but the point of the manhunt was that they were influencing things happening in the game world

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Having them be in some secluded area is just off

round sinew
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They don't influence shit tho.

steel radish
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Not like in game mechanics

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But story wise

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It’d make them feel like much less of a threat

round sinew
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You repeat the same 3 missions with no changes whatsoever. You capture 3 control points that are no different than usual, and you do 3 bounties that are kinda themed for the agent in question, then you do the rogue agent's bounty.

steel radish
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That’s what I’m saying

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I think the invasion idea would be better

round sinew
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But through the whole thing, there's not really any mention of the agent you're hunting, or of the overall plot.

steel radish
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Yeah

round sinew
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I agree.

steel radish
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Really makes it feel like much less of a story if there’s no dialogue to back it

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And then Kelso suddenly gets involved for the prime target

round sinew
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I get that what we're asking for would take a shit ton of man-hours to do.

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But, I'd be willing to pay a little if the manhunts were all basically DLC.

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Y'know, we probably put on average, like, idk 20 or so hours minimum into the actual tasks of completing a manhunt, not even counting the league events or special events, so I can see paying like 5-10 bucks per season for a new manhunt.

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IF it were basically a new DLC.

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People in general aren't outright against paying for DLC or microtransactions, they just want what they buy to be worth it. Generally it isn't worth paying, or it isn't worth the price, but I think most people with the disposable income would probably be okay with this.

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Only issue I really see would be splitting the player base, as they've already done with WONY.

primal umbra
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Faye is the primary target of Season 4's manhunt

mint citrus
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Hopefully we get an actual mission for Schaeffer and not just a reskinned bounty

static bay
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he's probably going to be the big bad of the manhunt tho, he's Schaeffer. Unless Faye takes that place. Chances are they will be in the same manhunt campaign

steel radish
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Schaeffer is a prime target, he isn’t one of the lieutenants

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Which is weird because I thought these were all rogue agent cells

mint citrus
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Schaeffer has rogues under his command because the BTSU is hurting for members

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According to the leaks at least

steel radish
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Pretty sure we’re getting some hunter lore in season 3 as well

mint citrus
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And the Russians are getting involved ' cuz it wouldn't be a Tom Clancy game without the Russians.

round sinew
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^

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I can count on one hand the amount of Tom Clancy media that has Russian good guys.

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And half of them, the state of Russia is still the bad guys lol

mint citrus
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It's always renegades or something

round sinew
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Yep

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HAWX, Ghost Recon, and Splinter Cell all have renegade Russians.

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Rainbow Six and Bear and the Dragon are the only ones I can think of offhand where Russia is an ally.

steel radish
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Rainbow six still has Russia being shady

round sinew
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Shady, yeah. But still allies. In the book, at least, they're trustworthy enough to join Rainbow.

dusty lodge
#

Just killed Conley of the D2's expansion and she's one crazy bi***

spiral turtle
#

Factual

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The Summit looks fucking fun

static bay
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YES YES YES YES YES YES.................Y E S

mint citrus
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The Summit?

steel radish
#

Official name for skyscraper

mint citrus
#

Ah

round sinew
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Remember when this game was just crazy fantasy and then for a second there it got a little too realistic?

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I member

pseudo quail
#

In Division 3, the enemy is the chinese, not russians

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Their name will be RDR -- Red Dawn Rising

worthy cloak
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Is there a way to side with Keener?

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nevermind Faye is on his side

steel radish
#

Faye isn’t with keener

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She’s with the BT; an enemy of keener

tall tendon
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Enemy of my enemy

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So is keener my friend or is faye

vague crane
#

I would rather be friends with Keener than Faye. I haven't liked her since the beginning.

tall tendon
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Faye is an og

worthy cloak
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Keener all the way

edgy smelt
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i would have loved to be able to side with keener at the end of his mission, beofre you kill him, like our character says something and talks with keener

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i want to go rogue and have that affect your game, like everytime you go rogue, you have to convince the people that you are good, but dont want to be bound by certain things

fierce wraith
#

I wanted that too, I wanted see keeners vision play out

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*to see

round sinew
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I mean

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If Keener's vision is genocide and bioterrorism

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Should've shot him where he sat and bled out.

worthy cloak
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yes rogue agent is much more interesting than a puppet for the elite

glad spruce
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Well... if going rogue means helping the people on my own terms rather than serving the will of the rich fucks, I'm in

But going rogue to continue Keener's legacy of genocide and bioterrorism? No thanks

worthy cloak
#

keener wasn't about genocide

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bioterrorism yes but genocide no, that's a stretch

drifting lotus
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"Indiscriminate Bioterrorism" is still technically genocide 🤔

glad spruce
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Maybe. But when your goal is to wipe the slate clean to ensure there's nobody to repeat the same mistakes that caused the collapse of society, its pretty close to genocide

worthy cloak
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well i mean it was only one part of a city

steel radish
#

Titan is more about genocide

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I don’t know what Keener was all about with eclipse tbh

drifting lotus
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well i mean it was only one part of a city
@worthy cloak I mean, I can understand us not giving a damn about the factions that cause potential harm (Rikers, Cleaners, Black Tusk)... but killing a large amount of people is still genocide no matter who is the potential target.

worthy cloak
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genocide is the wrong word, mass murder would be more appropriate. Genocide is more about killing people based off ethnicity or race

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he just wanted to kill anyone tied to the division

drifting lotus
#

Trying to remember a specific detail before I try to move forward.... there was a side mission that needed to be done before you are allowed to go to liberty island... what was the faction we were fighting in there?

worthy cloak
#

Black Tusk?

drifting lotus
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Ah.. then its of no consequence then. ....... Mass Murder probably is right.. I can try and consider most of these people of the same nation but thats being fickle.... Apparently being tied to the division meant its enemies too.

worthy cloak
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either way i started to sympathize with Keener especially if you collect all the cell phone recordings and such

drifting lotus
#

Thats the thing... if we back tracked to the events of New York (Division 1)... There was a sense of understanding.

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Considering the entire events of the New York Dark Zone, and the JTF abandoning the first wave.

worthy cloak
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there's one recording where javier is talking to some higherup within the division or Govt and he says something along the lines of if we stay we die and if we leave we are rouge. Dude on the other end was like oh well sorry agent.

drifting lotus
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Thats exactly how that entire dark zone ordeal went for every First Wave agent that went in there.... If they leave they are considered rogue, if they stay, they have absolutely no support and are on their own. The biggest problem right now is that despite what happened before, things are different now.

mint citrus
#

I'm still curious about the whole... "Back all the way off the Division" deal from a few months ago

#

Even Schaeffer sounded confused

static bay
#

In Division 3, the enemy is the chinese, not russians
@pseudo quail whoa hold on we can't make this series THAT realistic.

buoyant kite
#

anybody in the PTS yet? hows it look?

wicked oriole
#

Spoiler: All new exotics will be broken in pvp along with the new gear set

round sinew
#

Good

#

Nothing has changed lol

storm egret
#

Imagine running AdRush, intimidate and 4p of the new gearset

#

Oh boy

steel radish
#

I hope if they balance it in pvp they don’t fuck up the PvE sandbox

spiral turtle
#

You know they will

dawn path
#

so i just got spoiled that faye is like a traitor ?

steel radish
#

Yeah

cold bramble
#

uuuuh do we know yet what new weapons we will get? besides the exotic*

steel radish
#

Six12 named shotgun

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The skill tier pistol

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Idk what else

grizzled thorn
#

Backfire exotic, and a new gear set and new armor related gear set, also a new exotic chest and backpack,

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The named shotgun gives 5% armor on kill combined with hunter and gunner spec, you can reach 35% armor on kill

steel radish
#

what new weapons we will get? besides the exotic*

cold bramble
#

thx ^^

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hm... 35%

#

sounds actually usable in high difficulty

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not counting in gear sockets

grizzled thorn
#

You also use the named bloodsucker on the new gear piece

#

12% bonus armor instead of 10%

tall tendon
#

You can reach 55% aok if you really wanted to

round sinew
#

Skill tier pistol, you say?

lone orchid
#

In Division 3, the enemy is the chinese, not russians
@pseudo quail Really? Or are you just guessing. Red Dawn (Movie) and the game were a complete disappointment and bowed and prayed to their new gods and saviors of the chinese communist party.

round sinew
#

What

cold bramble
#

i thought the enemy in 2 is some corrupt politician

#

where does it say he got payed by father putin? >>

steel radish
#

The enemy is

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Well there isn’t a main enemy

mint citrus
#

The Black Tusk, but that's in the endgame

latent wagon
#

Why i cant start the mission classified assignment
I did the 1st but the others does not let me start it

whole minnow
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@latent wagon first you can start at low level, the rest you can start after you reach level 30

cold bramble
#

If Schaefer really wants hornet or keener why not send a medic to revive them?

glad spruce
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Because Hornet was already determined to fulfill Keener's Legacy and wants nothing to do with Black Tusk

And Keener is 100% dead.

latent wagon
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@latent wagon first you can start at low level, the rest you can start after you reach level 30
@whole minnow Thank you !

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Also, about foggy botton area there is a lady in the sewuer can you tell me about it cus i took the mission and i got nothing to start

lyric ether
#

Anyone knw where is the best drop rate for the bullet king

jolly wharf
#

Targeted loot

bright snow
#

We are in a game spoilers channel.

whole minnow
#

@latent wagon if you mean mission right next to it, to enter old Cold war bunker, it will lead to to another safehouse, where you get WW2 uniform, i think

cold bramble
#

Noice!

latent wagon
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@whole minnow I have just done this mission, Tho ! Its not the one i mean

Ill send you in DM a video where to find this lady

glad spruce
#

Well, its official. Season 3 involves a Manhunt against Bardon Schaeffer

steel radish
#

Yeah

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And season 4 with Faye Lau

round sinew
#

But I don't wanna kill either in a shitty manhunt

steel radish
#

I hope to god they’re gonna actually put effort into these manhunts

#

Like giving the lieutenants their own missions

steel radish
#

Yeah

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Have them act as an invasion

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Actually have story characters talk making it have the vibe of story focus

upper harness
#

why not just let us be rogues

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like make a big-big expansion

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where we will be rogues

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or choose who we want to be

static bay
#

or choose who we want to be
@upper harness A Telltale Games game except it's Div 2. Hmm

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Also nice profile pic, I see you are a cultured individual

jolly wharf
#

I created another character and redo the story campaign, I have feeling there's something wrong with Agent Edwards distress mission. Manny seems doesn't care about Agent Edwards.

storm egret
#

I wonder why that mission even exists lol

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It's supposed to be a 'hunter' first encounter but it's just so off in that regard, when I first did it I couldnt understand WTF just happened

low mural
#

@storm egret to start the hunt for hunters

storm egret
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Not to mention that you cant actually hunt hunters (i.e. damage or kill them)

#

I kinda wish they elaborated more on them honestly

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Maybe even add a way to kill them somehow and get a unique reward

low mural
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@storm egret uh, you can

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Where do you think people get their hunter masks from

storm egret
#

Nah, not these hunters

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The ones that you randomly encounter when your screen gets fuzzy

low mural
#

Those are stalkers ¯_(ツ)_/¯

storm egret
#

wut

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And now I wish they did a better job of localizing the damn game, because the stalkers are literally called 'hunters' in my version

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Or at least allow me to make UI English

rocky lynx
#

They are hunters, literally the same ones you get the masks from. You used to be able to kill them to get the masks.

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but they didnt fight back, just ran

steel radish
#

Sometimes I don’t understand how they run

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Like the stalker near tidal basin

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He literally has nowhere to go to

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But smokes out some how

mossy marsh
#

he is in his way to rendezvous with his team, but we encountered him first

jolly wharf
#

If the devs didnt even explained where the hunters came from, what organization they are or even their motives other than eliminate division agents in division 1...maybe one of the key characters in division 2 knows about those guys.

steel radish
#

Apparently we’re getting some explanation in S3

west patio
#

I'd say we will get one in season 3

round sinew
#

Doubtful

rocky cypress
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@steel radish some explanation in S3 ? i dont think so

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since season 3 is 10 days away

steel radish
#

Leaks say that ||the hunter “leader” is one of the lieutenants||

rocky cypress
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@steel radish there is no explanation in S3

steel radish
#

It might be season 4 then

rocky cypress
#

it not a leak

#

CODENAME: NIGHTMARE

As a final surprise, we have an exciting new Limited Special Event coming to The Division 2 this winter. Taking to the halls and classrooms of a repurposed Kenly College in what we are tentatively calling Codename: Nightmare, The Division 2 will be providing a unique gameplay experience that we are excited to share more about in the coming months!

steel radish
#

I’m not talking about that

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I’m talking about a leaked lieutenant for the manhunt

#

It might be true it might not

rocky cypress
#

Faye Lau

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season 3 is Bardon Schaeffer

steel radish
#

L i e u t e n a n t

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As in

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Not prime target

rocky cypress
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where did you get this info from

rocky cypress
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i dont bleave everthing that comes from that site

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that post was from may

tall tendon
#

bleave

low mural
#

well yeah

#

cause its theories from may

steel radish
#

Well

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It’s from audio files in the old PTS

static bay
#

But smokes out some how
@steel radish they literally disappear. They don't run anywhere, I'm pretty sure of it.

cold bramble
#

We still have one more BT lieutenant to kill and that’s Jack Bonney

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And likely he’ll replace bardons position when he dies

west patio
#

I think Bardon got some rogues at his side and his mission is gonna involve a hunter

steel radish
#

Yeah that’s my point

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How do they just dematerialise

spiral turtle
#

How do they just dematerialise
@steel radish what if hunters are just figures of our agents imagination

cold bramble
#

the masks they drop?

steel radish
#

Also part of our imagination

pseudo quail
#

Tell that to the Hunters that show up in Survival mode in Division 1.

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'YOU DONT EXIST TO ME.' gunshot, then executed by handaxe

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The first time I encountered a Hunter I got my face owned so bad I needed a cigarette afterwards.

cold bramble
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wait the hunters spoke in div 1?

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i never played it

steel radish
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No

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Honestly

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I think the hunter in the Agent Edwards mission is going to be the one on the manhunt

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Because that’s the only named hunter we’ve seen

vapid light
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I thought that hunter was the “demon” mask one you can fight in vaguely the same area.

cold bramble
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@vapid light the hunter in the mission was named, the hunter you fight is not

jolly wharf
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Ohhh demn, I didnt notice that. Yea i repeat the story mode only one hunter who has name "Unknown". The rest of thr hunters only has logo but no name.

cold bramble
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🍞

civic olive
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The noble squad logo has a hunter climbing over a Phoenix

steel radish
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So uh

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I was playing R6s

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And noticed one of the ops had what looks like an ISAC brick on his shoulder

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Probably coincidental

wispy copper
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Iirc, Ela got a Division 2 skin around the time we got the Thermite outfit as part of a cosmetics crossover

steel radish
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I’m talking about Ace

wispy copper
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Oh lol, probably a coincidence then

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I think he’s a rescue climber in the lore so it’s probably some rescue equipment

round sinew
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It's not a brick on Ace's shoulder, it's just a radio.

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It's too high up on the shoulder anyways.

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Plus Ace is Norwegian, and a filthy mercenary. No possible relation as SHD only recruits Americans.

steel radish
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Wishful thinking I guess

round sinew
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They might as well add a division agent. They added fucking Sam Fisher

cold bramble
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div2relax a reserve type agent wouldn't be in active combat like R6

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could add agents that have history in combat but they wouldn't be/shouldn't be tagged as division, that would make no sense

spiral turtle
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Just add keener petter

cold bramble
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heee could be active in quarantine if where ever it plays has agents

cold bramble
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in all honesty, they could literally add anyone we would know who they are but the details why they are with the R6 team needs to be vague as hell or it would just be pointless fanservice

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it makes literally no sense otherwise why an division agent would take part in something that goes against their directive

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'being a reserved force for a last resort'

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also the SHD is an united states only government branch, other countries would most definitely have their own version but they arent SHD

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div2relax idk about most definitely but they should have their own plans

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not everyone had the same history :x

steel radish
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We have the orange circle

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Other countries be having a blue triangle or smth

cold bramble
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purple square

wary urchin
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I wonder of covid-19 is in the division

cold bramble
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div2relax ay gave attention to a stupid meme, he is going to keep going now

wary urchin
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Who

glad steppe
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Jesus why would covid be in div

round sinew
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Imagine surviving through the fucking second apocalypse of smallpox only to end up with a general grievous tier cough from some fucking MERS wannabe virus

cold bramble
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bruh

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that would suck

slate grove
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Any hunter on summit.

cold bramble
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bruh monento

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the floor 100 hunters are legendary difficulty I assume?

slate grove
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Really?

floral gull
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the BTSU is all but wiped out and Rogue agent cells haven fallen by the dozen...who else can face the division next year?

slate grove
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The devs will always create new factions to face the division

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Just likely a cliche, nnew factions rise up, division tear up, all down, new enemy with good tech, still rogue agents will be there as it is common now for us to encounter rogue agents

floral gull
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I was hoping that the Faye Lau Manhunt for this year would lead into Division 3

vapid light
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America is a big country. I’ve no doubt there’ll be other groups in other parts of the country that have their own brand of bullshit.

cold bramble
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yep

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hyenas 2 electric bugaloo

round sinew
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I mean, we've only really seen eastern cities: NYC, DC, Detroit, Cleveland, and Philly.

cold bramble
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div2relax Black tusk is still going to be a threat, we are only going after their military officers but not the actual leaders

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it's very easy to rebuild guns, it's not easy to rebuild the pillars that hold the organization together

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theres also the fact they are ingrained in the survived government

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that is some splinter cell shit but its still going to be a problem we are going to need to go against otherwise its a plothole

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petter that could make the series go assassins' creed like some people want despite the story locking it in the united states

steel radish
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The Division 3: Not the division

stone harbor
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The Division 3 : The Cake is a Lie

mint citrus
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The rogue network is probably a setup for us having to actually use it, imo

native ember
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That could work

fallen turtle
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I hope next game will have a choice to go rouge in main story

robust turtle
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🔴

fallen turtle
cold bramble
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The Division 3: CRY OF THE COMMUNITY 🤣

round sinew
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When do y'all think Raven's Rock will enter into Division as a supporter of Black Tusk?

mint citrus
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They won't

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Probably not

round sinew
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Probably not.

lunar night
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||Isn't the funder behind BT a Russian armor manufacturer lore wise?||

steel radish
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Why put a spoiler tag in a spoiler channel

cold bramble
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Do you all think we are going to explore BT's research into weaponized DC-62 in season 3? I mean we see that they took the True Sons DC-62 mortar rounds and made them more lethal in liquid form, so I'd like to see that explored more. Unless, narratively, the one mission we did in Jefferson Plaza was the end of it.

steel radish
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Maybe it will be part of this season

round sinew
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You're joking, right? Seasons don't have narrative.

steel radish
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Well

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Part of the manhunt mission I mean

west patio
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Black tusk won't go for it

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In the DC briefing comm they call it bad

steel radish
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I mean

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Aren’t they trying to appear as saviours or something

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Using chemical weapons wouldn’t really help them

west patio
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Yeah, the want to appear as the good guys trying to help

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That's why the president is alive currently, he's seen as a good guy and if he's with them there good guys

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And they don't want to use chemical weapons and shit to keep the appearance as good guys

cold bramble
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Makes me wonder why they were producing it in the first place then. They even say that the True Sons were on to something and that they could perfect it (or something along those lines). I don't think BT in general has a good hold over their folks overall or it could just be a throw away narrative just for the invaded mission.

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It would be easy to use DC-62 and blame it on True Sons given the fact that the Sons used it on the Castle Settlement already (That settlement ever going to get some love?).

cold bramble
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ikr the castle needs some content

cold bramble
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biological attacks don't clean themselves and we don't have anyone available to clean also

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yeah

glad steppe
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Just spam castle with chem heal it will work out somehow

cold bramble
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^

round sinew
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BT: "we don't want to be seen as bad guys."
Also BT: "We're gonna fight civilians and blockade settlements with armed checkpoints."

pseudo cliff
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Don't forget about the public exoutions@round sinew

mint citrus
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Oh yeah

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That's not really good for their PR

cold bramble
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div2question they are pretty hostile, take the time and listen to them talk, they are pretty mean, the "bad" people just throws taunts

cold bramble
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no bt is the nicest faction ever

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shooting people in the back of the head while they are handcuffed

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it's so respecful

cold bramble
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@cold bramble i was talking about civis

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kek

round sinew
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Black Tusk Lives Matter

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👀

silent geyser
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cleaners are the best faction

west patio
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In div 1 I love cleaners but in div 2 I hate them

final raven
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really? I think all of their units have very glaring weak points

west patio
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I feel much weaker in div 2 compared to div 1

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I kill faster in 2 but

cold bramble
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did they ever say anything about new directives?

cold mantle
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I have not seen anything on them, but did miss the latest SOTG

cold bramble
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remember the confusion status u get from the hyena drugs?

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i want that as a directive... constant confusion >>

cold bramble
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Hey uhm so... on roosevelt island around emilies room i think it was. You can go behind the tend and theres a little area with nothing in it buuut theres a hole in the ground that you can jump into with a metal wire door that you cant open tho

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its fairly hidden since you can only see it if youre infront of it and i kinda never found out what it is for... does anyone know?

austere plume
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@cold bramble that's a secret room...
It only unlocks when Roosevelt is on invaded and you haven't completed it yet...

cold bramble
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havent completed it yet in like its still marked red?

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or "has done before"

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probably the first

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many thanks ^^

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are there any others? ( is this even a spoiler?)

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could be the owl puzzle and also no it wouldnt count as one

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ah sorry then ^^

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owl puzzle? >>

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theres a puzzle dealing with owl statues on roosevelt

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.... huh

austere plume
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It is the owl puzzle

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@cold bramble like it's still marked red

cold bramble
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ah okay

austere plume
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Just search it up on YouTube and you'll get a video explaining it

cold bramble
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thx ^^

austere plume
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No worries

cold bramble
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I know it's probably just Keener's theme, but (bored pondering) the last WONY mission has the rogue agent music playing the entire time we are snuffing out the black tusk. Is that some kind of low key hint that we are the rogue agents?

Probably not, but I am bored helping another person through this mission for the n'th time, so thinking out loud.

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I say probably not, but it's most definitely not, just wanted to nerd out parrot

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👀 we are going against the president of the united states

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👀

steel radish
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The guy that we answer to

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That we self deemed a traitor

mint citrus
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Ellis did betray us, in a way

vapid light
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I mean that same president was selling out the future of the country to the highest bidder via an agreement with a privately hired militia group.
Was the SHD meant to be loyal to the president or the country. I can never remember 😬

round sinew
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Neither, really,

cold bramble
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a shared future where he looks good and BT becomes the heroes he hired to help after the first wave of division agents "failed"

upper harness
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how the hell is BTSU even alive and working when other world is probably experiencing the same shit.

glad spruce
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There's only Bardon and Jack Bonney left of the original BTSU

round sinew
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No

cold mantle
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SHD were never given a loyal status more so they were just there as a JTF if things ever got out of hand hence the the virus launched the SHD network was activiated

round sinew
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When is Season 3 even releasing?

bright snow
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In like 33 hours or so.

round sinew
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Oh fuck

glad spruce
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Ngl, I'm excited to take down Bardon and his goons

cold bramble
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i'm excited to take him down too, 3 months from now petter

lunar night
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So we have Bardon, and Bonney, who other 3 would make up the Manhunt for the BTSU?

vapid orchid
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so, is season 4 gonna be the last season since we're finally taking out brendan and faye?

cold bramble
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wait till the next leak to find out

vapid orchid
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i mean what would be after that? would they get our character models from Div 1 and make that a personalized manhunt for season 5 lol?

cold bramble
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Do you want me to agree with you? because you already know the answer "We don't know", sarcastically remarking about the leaks should've given you a hint

vapid orchid
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some people like to make theories

round sinew
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Nah, season 4 will probably be it unless they announce a second DLC like a Year 2 pass or some shit.

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Hell, by the time we kill Schaeffer, it'll be Christmas.

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Tbh Jack Bonney should get a mission, too.

steel radish
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Jack Bonney?

glad spruce
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One of the remaining members in BTSU

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Actually, what about the unknown female Rogue agent that Hornet talks to in his audio logs? She could be a manhunt after S4.

And I could be remembering it wrong, but she does sound similar to that Rogue female agent who supplied the Rikers to bomb the SQZ (Secure Quarantine Center) and dragging the JTF and Division to NYC's underground back during the events of Div 1

round sinew
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There's also that one rogue that Faye captured and interrogated. Or was that Jupiter?

lunar night
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There's also that one rogue that Faye captured and interrogated. Or was that Jupiter?
@round sinew That was someone else, she might be apart of Faye's manhunt later

steel radish
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Some teacher person

steel radish
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I guess the call signs are revealed for the season 3 manhunt

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Since they said the league names in patch notes

round sinew
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Gross

glad spruce
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Alicia Coswald

round sinew
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Yes

glad spruce
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Alright, so the season got released. Do we have pictures of what they look like? My game's updating as we speak

mint citrus
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Not yet

lunar night
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yeah

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I can post a link

glad spruce
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I already got pictures, so no worries

lunar night
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cool

wild umbra
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Just logged onto S3, why is my watch red and flashing in my menu, do we know?

spiral turtle
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@wild umbra pretty sure it’s just a bug and they are working on a fix for it

steel radish
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Pretty sure it’s red at all times

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Since it’s keeners watch

spiral turtle
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No like the actual menu around it is flashing

steel radish
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Yeah ik but they asked why it’s red

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Unless the actual menu is red

spiral turtle
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

steel radish
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Which would be weird

wild umbra
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That looks too purposeful to be a bug... It doesn't display the level, it's got a permanent exclaimation mark, the actual watch face is red which means its a different icon and the actual box its on is pulsing red

steel radish
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It was like that when we first got keeners watch iirc

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I don’t think it’s purposeful

wild umbra
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was it? lmao I finished the campaign on release so I don't remember 😅

steel radish
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I think so

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I haven’t completed WoNY for a while

cold bramble
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same xd

round sinew
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So Conley's mission is bugged. The fucking fire tower doesn't proc

lunar night
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Ahh you too huh

cold bramble
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ur a fire tower

simple wadi
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Yeah, that fire tower bug and the looping intro bug seem to be the two big ones rn

round sinew
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Tell me when they're fixed.

glad spruce
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Same here

round sinew
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Hot take, but what if Jack Bonney turns on Black Tusk and becomes an ally?

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I know we've never before seen "bad guy turns good" in a Tom Clancy game. It's always the opposite.

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But I can see it being a potential for why he's not around since he's previously shown great respect and even a little admiration for the Division.

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(In all likelihood, he's going to be a miniboss in Bardon's mission)

cold bramble
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That's a subscribe from me

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Would love that

lunar night
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It's never gonna happen

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Once you go bad there's no change of heart for em in a Tom Clancy game

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stranded tanker and ridgeway chest piece fix tomorrow

glad spruce
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Excellent

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Should be able to finish off Shade tomorrow

round sinew
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Tomorrow?

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I don't understand bugs, but how's it taking like 72 hours to make stranded tanker work?

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Just make fire tower go fwoom

static bay
#

It was like that when we first got keeners watch iirc
@steel radish it is, I remember it very clealry

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clearly

round sinew
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Summit is fun. Solo'd my way through the first 20 floors. Doubt I can do any more on my own, though.

dense mulch
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Hey massive there's a hole and ladder to go downstairs at floor 0 in the summit, hiding anything?

cold bramble
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you think we went through the front door?

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with hundreds of enemies filling each floor?

dense mulch
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I mean we've got different factions living together in the same building and our HQ is downstairs so why not

round sinew
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Maybe that's Summit 2.

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Where we go -100 floors

dense mulch
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When you pull up the floor list you have a little subway icon at the bottom

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Theoriiies

round sinew
#

Summit 2: Underground 2.

dense mulch
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😉

round sinew
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Can't be any more anxiety-inducing as Underground, Survival, or Summit lol

cold bramble
#

summit 2 electric bugaloo

cold bramble
#

i just cleared floor 100

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with 3 players it was really fun

round sinew
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What's it like?

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Any cutscenes or anything?

cold bramble
#

no

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you just kill the hunters

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they die

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then you fire flare and get 1 million exp

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the scaling with 3 man is better

round sinew
#

There's hunters? Neat.

cold bramble
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4 man the hunters are insane

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yeah I recoomend 3 man because 4 man is like going from challenging to heroic

round sinew
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I've only made it to 20. I'm too lazy to solo past that.

cold bramble
#

xd

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solidfps soloed it I think

round sinew
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I could probably go to 50 on my own with patience and time, but I seriously can't be fucked.

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And I can't be asked to change up to a better, more meta play style.

cold bramble
#

same lmao

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honestly I just ran my red build all the way through

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its more a grind than hard

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there's just so much shit

round sinew
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At least you run a red build. I run yellow.

cold bramble
#

yellow is great

round sinew
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Not how I play it lol

cold bramble
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i'm very hyperactive and love to play in the thick of it

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unless I die

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then I cuss the enemy out

round sinew
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6 piece hardwired with an assault drone and turret. I sit back and let my machines flush and flank.

cold bramble
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why 6 pc

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use one wyvern and one hanau

round sinew
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Because I've stacked my recalibrated skill effects on them.

cold bramble
#

ah

round sinew
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I didn't say I was smart

cold bramble
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hard wired is great for seekers

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infinite seekers lmao

round sinew
#

That's how I okayed before level 30

cold bramble
#

yep

round sinew
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Then I got used to relying on the two extra guns. Makes me a 3-man team in one.

cold bramble
#

xd

round sinew
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Stops being effective once you get to challenging though. The enemies stop caring about being shot and the drones don't dish out damage or stagger like they do on lower difficulty

cold bramble
#

nah

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skill builds melt there

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i prefer an all high end instead of HW but it's all preference

round sinew
#

I like HW because it lets me keep one drone up at all times. Since I play solo, I rely on the distraction of a drone a lot.

cold bramble
#

yep

spiral turtle
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I soloed all the way up to 80 switching back and forth between red and foundry tank builds. Legendary just makes me wanna die.

round sinew
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That's how I feel about challenging

tall tendon
#

ND for legendary

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Imo

spiral turtle
#

my solo foundry tank was doing ok but i kept getting overwhelmed

round sinew
#

I wonder how the Hunter set would do.

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Tbh I don't get how people run almost the exact same build I have on heroic solo. I just run it because I know it and I like it, but I think it sucks.

wraith light
#

Was I supposed to get jumped by a hunter named "Jones" while doing the Shade rogue agent bounty?

lunar night
#

no?

wraith light
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🤔

steel radish
#

Jones coming for that watch

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Maybe the leaks are true

wraith light
#

@scenic thicket found this on the div 2 secrets hunting discord

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Apparently during state of the game they said "We are not the only ones hunting the manhunt target"

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might explain it

steel radish
#

Oooooh

scenic thicket
#

they as the devs? or the in game characters

wraith light
#

devs

scenic thicket
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ooh

steel radish
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Maybe Jones is the dude who ambushed us on the Agent Edwards mission