#division-universe | Tom Clancy's The Division | Page 79

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:23 AM

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but he aint as skilled as the SHD's style of cyber warfare

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he was like i said, wise enough to install em in

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after him passing the 6 month evaluation

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probably wanted to go check out ISAC's nodes

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and installed a chip in there somewhere without ISAC even noticing

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bc there's no way to hack the SHD like this, Theo would be traced instantly

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:24 AM

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interesting

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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theo wouldn't have certainly worked w/ the hunters

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that's my pov on how theo managed to get through ISAC

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because as shown in operation ISAC

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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anyway back to my e3 predictions

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:25 AM

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you can easily get through him if you're at his nodes

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they HAVE to make the hunters the next new enemy

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when the rogue faction is dismantled

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like, there's no other who can take the cake except the hunters, black tusk would've crumbled already bc of their loss of equipment

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all the other enemy factions would be taken out at the hands of your agent and his/hers battle buddies

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imagine at the e3 talks, a hunter appears but this time without his mask

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and says, "si vis pacem..

para bellum".

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which means, if you want peace, prepare for war

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:28 AM

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he would also say like "i must say im impress. you've not only rescue Tchernenko. but you also stop my virus from spreading. congratulations but this is not the end. this is just the beginning of a bigger plan. see you soon. oh and mind if i warn you. never trust who you're close to."

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o shiet

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then the division agent watch starts twitching from orange to red

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yeah

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and the screen jams out like how you would experience w/ a hunter after he puts on the mask

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yeah

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:29 AM

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somebody in the division NEEDS to say that latin sentence

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i'd moan to death right there

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if they did add it in, just give us something teasing like that

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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then the tag line shoud be "What Remains is Now Forgotten"

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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hunters come back but not in full scale invasion

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just packs and picking you off

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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or something like that

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:30 AM

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like they did in D1

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they had a hunter watching you then come in thru smoke w/ 4 others

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now in D2, they're just watching you still

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learning your tactics, mapping where you go

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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me and the boys targeting division agents

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:31 AM

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me getting ready to end any rogue that kills

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pumping sweet dreams with rogue killing intent

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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does What Remains is Now Forgotten a good tag line or nah

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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sounds edgy

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i like it, but id like more..

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mystery to it too, the hunters are indeed the most mysterious

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yeah it kinda bugs me out

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:32 AM

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having that esque gives the good ole hunter vibe

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but srsly tho, it'll make sense for somebody to say that

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or even somebody who's like keener saying that

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i mean like what else is remain

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theres nothing left

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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im kinda sad that they got rid of him, not like i was sad that he died

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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it was a great send off too

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i was just sad bc there's no other character who drove the story then him

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yeah, yeah, amazing fight (even thru bugs) and with ISAC saying 'rogue agent neutralized'

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he died an martyr for something greater

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:33 AM

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he's one of the best villians

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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i really want

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another rogue like him to drive the story

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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have you seen vivian tho

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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or any normal agent like me to drive the story

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and even document their dive into insanity

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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she literally went boom

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:34 AM

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because every agent rn, after killing THOUSANDS

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is a sociopath rn

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but it could also be their training too, they're prepared to so

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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is it possible for a third wave division agent

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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i really want an agent to have PTSD and you get to experience it during the ECHO

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just see him rambling, looking everywhere in fear

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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maybe in div 3 we got a mission where we met the previous agent

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 AM

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he hears a gunshot outside and he starts crawling up into a ball or start thrashing around and even deploying his gadget

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i talked about this before with some amazing people on the lore

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yes and no, the SHD wouldn't throw every agent they got in the field

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they're probably training some others to be the third wave, but not in the wave sense

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just add-ons to the second wave

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:36 AM

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maybe in div 3 we fight faye lau

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:36 AM

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because each wave has their own agendas and set missions

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i doubt faye is actually going through with this

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she can't be meaning 'them' as in us

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she put EVERYTHING she had into the division, her next being her sister

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:36 AM

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she has no other choice i think

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:37 AM

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she discouraged Agent Coswald, a rogue

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of disavowing something everyone had stood for

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:37 AM

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yeah

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Coswald made very good points but im still not convinced

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:37 AM

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shit im going rogue

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i have to go

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:37 AM

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her points are contradicted by how the JTF caused all of this

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how every agent has their own volition to do anything in their power to restore what remains

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and being autonumous has their own fatal flaws

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autonomous*

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aw

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you gonna come back or something?

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:38 AM

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so long agent

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who knows

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i might be dead

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:39 AM

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as long as you dont kill any other SHD agents

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and your rogue activation is justified as family/survival

steel light Apr 27, 2020, 2:39 AM

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it depends

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 2:39 AM

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i wont shoot u

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im still tryna find that guy's uplay..

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the rogue who helped me finish a landmark

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i think i msg'd him, saying something about never seeing a rogue do this b4

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anyways, goodnight and safe travels, agent

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div2salute shd

hollow jolt Apr 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I wish Massive would put in the Classic M1 into the game... the M1 Garand; it seems like it would fit in with the theme of the game

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it's old reliable

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I know the M14 is in the game, but the M1 Garand could have better damage or something to compensate for the smaller 8-round en-bloc clip

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also it has a nice ping! that the M14 doesn't have

vital swallow Apr 27, 2020, 7:08 PM

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M!4 was around the vietnam war i think

steep galleon Apr 27, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Who was RE3 made by

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Ubi?

vague crane Apr 27, 2020, 8:00 PM

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@cold bramble I like your idea of the PTSD story. I would also like a story from the point of view of a rogue agent or one who became rogue during the first wave. Something where you would be able to see the breakdown of society, become activated in a normal, everyday scenario and have to deal with the first couple weeks/months of the fall out leading up to the point where the second wave is deployed. Where you can then choose to continue to try to "stay true to the division" or make that one, fateful choice to make your one choice that denotes you as rogue. Once you make the choice to become rogue, you would have to go through dealing with people seeing the red ring and firing onsite/hunting you down which would, ultimately, cause you to seek the aid of Keener...

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I mean, I understand every agent has an breaking point but even then, their training would’ve hardened em to the point it’s almost a blur to them

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sociopathical intents like how you see in Kajika and Vivian were the recruiters fault

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Kajika mostly, they let him in because of his background but didn’t want to because he didn’t pass his 6 month pysc evaluation

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Heh, I do like that story of yours, nice overtones to it, I’d love to see it in like some short film or maybe even echos and recordings

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Showing you one agent’s dive into insanity

full pendant Apr 27, 2020, 11:14 PM

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so, just finished Saturn manhunt.

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and more and more I start to accept the fact that the rogues never were the bad guys.

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So, what really the division is and how many rogues did Keener activated.

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Will Kelso eventually go rogue?

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too many questions at once lol.

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there really must be a reason why Faye went rogue and joined BT.

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Keener was just toying them so maybe does Faye?

cold bramble Apr 27, 2020, 11:49 PM

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the SHD is a fail safe, for when all odds are used up, and how many rogues? All the rogues who went into rogue protocol, Keener & Parnell literally united every rogue via the ISAC 2.0 AI, ANNA

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we fight to restore what remains, protect the interest of the people and the populace, the division really is how you see it

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We could be delaying the inevitable for all I care and I’d hate to admit that, as much as I refuse to go rogue

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the division is the last line of defense, hence why the US put so much effort into the SHD, time and time again, the division has successfully pushed back the biggest threats to em

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Kelso can’t go rogue, even though I and some other youtuber named NGN made some big theories on if she could potentially go rogue

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Or is rogue rn and just fooling ISAC like Parnell did

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But rn, she wasn’t in an position like Faye Lau had, losing a loved one and everything she ever cared for that matter

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She didn’t join black tusk, Bardon had tabs on many agents and still do

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She could be using him and Keener for information on how to take them down, there’s no possibility she went rogue like this

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Faye Lau heavily discouraged of going rogue but now chooses to go rogue on her own accord

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There’s a ton of reasons that I’m trying to compile up that makes sense

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But rn, it’s the loss of her sister

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Makes you wonder, EVERYTHING that has happened, this being the rogues, dont you think it was all caused by the JTF?

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Like seriously, they abandoned the first wave and still keep abandoning agents in the most desperate of times

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Kajika had a justified reason, either he stays in the DZ and dies or goes rogue because of ISAC

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But that doesn’t justify the amount of people he’s brutally murdered to fuel his agenda against the JTF, I do still blame em but this isn’t the route to go

round sinew Apr 28, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I say kill em all.

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A traitor's a traitor.

cold bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Are you prepared to have your agent eat a bullet as well? because as far as the story is rn, We aren't exactly clean either

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even some part of it isn't exactly our fault but still we aren't blameless

cold bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Indeed but, the main issue is ISAC

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I’m not supporting rogues nor do I justify their actions, most go rogue for survival and their families

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As long as they haven’t killed any other innocent agents, I wouldn’t put an bullet in em

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but ISAC like ive said many times before, can’t identify who’s going rogue for what

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It’s just operating under whatever rudimentary systems it was given

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even if it’s an learning AI, ISAC can’t understand emotions

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Which is the main drive for agents going rogue and ISAC only picks up on if they do actions that constitute as disavowing

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Or it can mark you as rogue for not saving civilians even

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Traitors are traitors but you have to feel some sympathy for rogues who don’t wanna kill nor wanna be under the common stipulations that rogues have

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in the end, it comes down to what you decide, we’re autonomous, so.

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but being autonomous has its critical flaws

sullen steeple Apr 28, 2020, 2:35 PM

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to sum up this channel just watch NGN

vague crane Apr 28, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I like what you said in your last comment @cold bramble . In reading some of the bios of the rogue agents, it appears some of them were marked as rogue after "going off mission" for a couple weeks. Doesn't mean they were necessarily out there killing everyone in sight or planting secondary bio weapons, they just went to do something that wasn't "per plan". This is ironic to me because isn't an agent supposed to be equipped with the power to make tough decisions and be resourceful when all resources seem to be depleted? Then, when they come back "on mission" or "into line with ISAC's directives", they then almost have to begin taking darker steps, such as killing, in order to self-preserve as they are now being hunted by other agents who don't know the full reasons why they may have chosen not to follow a directive to the T.

cold bramble Apr 28, 2020, 2:47 PM

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so, ISAC is locked to sets of protocols of that and that's forcing agents to follow the mission that's provided, no matter how bad it is

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if they refuse to, it's considered disavowing their duties and mark you as rogue

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which is kinda stupid on my end, ISAC is supposed to help you, not force you to follow under ground-rules that's so unbalanced

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they weren't out there killing everyone, they could've been doing it for self-defense because ISAC demands agents to neutralize any rogue agent nearby 'em

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Faye Lau made what you said on 'equipped with the power to make tough decisions and be resourceful when all resources seem to be depleted'

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towards Agent Coswald when she tried to justify herself going rogue

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it's sadly how ISAC was programmed to be, there's no other way to wipe yourself because it has biometric information on you, the only exception was Parnell who wiped their facial recognitions & database from the SHD network

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because Parnell had access to a active SHD node at the time, which raises some questions, was he involved with that BTSU operative who managed to get through the Federal Emergency Bunker SHD NODE?

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like, i assumed that BTSU engineer used biometric info from a alive agent bc ISAC doesnt allow in deceased agents

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copied his watch and used it on the door, which explains how it was wide open the second your agent arrived

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Them going 'off mission' was on the basis of not following what ISAC or any ally told em to do

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because it seemed either cruel or insane to do but they were being held by their necks to pursue such a mission, but agents aren't supposed to be forced to do missions

cold bramble Apr 28, 2020, 3:52 PM

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bruh wtf so many word too much brain usage

cold bramble Apr 28, 2020, 4:35 PM

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brucequote

steel light Apr 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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woah

cold bramble Apr 28, 2020, 10:17 PM

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yes

steel light Apr 28, 2020, 10:25 PM

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indeed

undone notch Apr 29, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Do we know what content is coming after this current manhunt?

cold bramble Apr 29, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Idrk

winter solar Apr 29, 2020, 9:39 AM

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id imagine another manhunt or they will just reset it with different missions

thin juniper Apr 29, 2020, 10:07 AM

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We've had what is likely the next skill leaked. so hopefully they'll release a different manhunt for it

winter solar Apr 29, 2020, 10:34 AM

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yeah hopefully they do it differently aswell

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the way to progress this manhunt was pretty annoying the fact it was time consuming in some sense

thin juniper Apr 29, 2020, 10:36 AM

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unfortunately I don't think they'll do it differently. doing it differently would require making entirely new missions for anything to be different. And especially with everyone out of work for covid-19, very little good development can be getting done

winter solar Apr 29, 2020, 10:37 AM

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yeah i get that but the new york campaign felt short aswell

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so much potential ig

tepid isle Apr 29, 2020, 12:36 PM

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@winter solar i finished the new york story in like 4 or 5 hours... not worth the 30 euros they charged me for the dlc

formal moon Apr 29, 2020, 12:37 PM

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but you get more endgame content

winter solar Apr 29, 2020, 12:53 PM

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yeah i get the endgame content but the dlc was so short and couldve been much better if it had been longer or at least some more main missions instead of going straight for the rogue agent

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the only reason i bought it was so i could play with people and do the raid but i was just kinda disappointed at the story

tepid isle Apr 29, 2020, 2:30 PM

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yea same, imo the story was a huge let down... end game should be fun just got to not get kicked by every group/team for not having enough experience...

cold bramble Apr 29, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Some rogue agents joined black tusk instead of us.

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But why agents went rogue?

vital swallow Apr 29, 2020, 3:36 PM

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some did it for survival or for families

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for example, faye if you listened to her recordings

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She didn't want to go rogue

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but since things went harder

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she had tabs with brandon schaeffer

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@cold bramble

cold bramble Apr 29, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Bardon has a lot of tabs on agents in the SHD, however, these agents aren't loyal to him, most agents rely on the BTSU because if you get on their good side, they provide resources and other stuff to you

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Their main priority is to get rid of unaligned agents who are in DC and pave their own way, but their agent-killing radical agenda is what drives most SHD agents away from the BT, because we've virtually murdered thousands upon thousands of their unit

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The reason why agents went rogue was because of the reality on the First Wave

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They were abandoned by the JTF, they were literally abandoned by their own, Keener for example when he tried to call for backup from a fellow agent

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They too left him to die in the DZ and this drove him over the brink of insanity

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Like Zoey said, yes, they did do it for survival & families, that's the more broader and good side of Rogues, because ISAC marks them as rogue no matter what that agent does to justify their actions

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but some went Rogue to follow up with the First Wave and realised that the Strategic Homeland Division truly wasn't the all-saving agency that's meant to restore the fallen government

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knowing they're all autonomous, they could do whatever the fuck that pleases them and going rogue seemed like the only option to true freedom as a division agent

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but i don't agree with such thing, you're supposed to follow your duties but i do hate how ISAC forces you to obey by its commands or else it'll mark you as rogue to every nearby agent

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that's not how being autonomous works

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Many aligned themselves to any faction and organization that could provide them shelter, food, ammo, etc.

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the Black Tusk was the more open one, because Bardon made sure that his fellow operatives didn't get the jump on agents who wished to work with the BTSU

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This being Faye Lau because she just wanted information

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EIther way, going Rogue is something i go against, the SHD isn't meant for this and their missions at restoring the government is already working

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we've trained for this very moment for years now and we're not just gonna let it go away and whimper about being left behind

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if you dont have any resources, be resourceful, that's the mindset of every agent when they're activated and out there in the barren apocalypse

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I'm kinda sad most SHD agents are domestic-only, they dont have operational jurisdiction to leave the country, like Canada & Mexico

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maybe for vacation when things are done and they all return back to normal lives but I don't think the SHD was meant to return back to normal lives

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how would they re-attach to society? Knowing every civie prob knows what the SHD is now and how many people they've brutally murdered to complete their restorations of the government

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they're just activated and once that happens, they probably remain as a normal agent, until society falls again and they can repeat the cycle

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I'm kinda confused on why the SHD didn't have any plans for this happening, did they expect the world to just end and the SHD was only delaying the inevitable?

steel light Apr 29, 2020, 4:11 PM

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are keener's rogue agents come from the first wave?

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cause i kept hearing rumors that some of them came from either the first or the second wave

cold bramble Apr 29, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yes, they're First Wave agents

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Second Wave were the ones that were sent in to dispatch of 'em/learn why they went rogue

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and carry on with the missions they were unable to do

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The later Second Wave agents aka our DC Agent did the same

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but this time, Keener was the target, the mastermind behind the influx of Rogues

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Literally, majority of the First Wave became Rogue

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or became KIA, the other missing agents that were covered by the youtuber NGN, have yet to be discovered

steel light Apr 29, 2020, 4:47 PM

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interesting

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bruh operation dark winter has become a reality

mellow atlas Apr 29, 2020, 6:56 PM

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wait so the first wave was literally shoved into the dz and were not allowed to come out?

glad spruce Apr 29, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Not exactly.

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They were sent to maintain things in the DZ with the JTF at Manhattan. But obviously, things went to total shit to the point that the JTF were forced to evac, leaving the first wave to fend for their own

shell frigate Apr 29, 2020, 7:38 PM

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this is why Javier is murdering JTF whereever he can

mellow atlas Apr 29, 2020, 8:13 PM

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tbh judging by the audio logs found in quarantine areas in DC the JTF didn't sound very humane during the early stages of the outbreak. I'm guessing these are the same JTF soldiers who joined Ridgeway

shell frigate Apr 29, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I mean the JTF basically exist to fuck up again and again

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Hell the one mission in 2 where we fight alongside them they immediately fuck up and let president ellis escape

vital swallow Apr 29, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Javier wanted to kill those who were corrupt.

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He wanted to kill those who left him to die

mellow atlas Apr 30, 2020, 12:34 AM

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how did ellis get out of the whitehouse unnoticed though? did he just get a black tusk chauffeur and walk out?

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Hell the one mission in 2 where we fight alongside them they immediately fuck up and let president ellis escape
@shell frigate you mean Camp White Oak?

vital swallow Apr 30, 2020, 12:49 AM

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see

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president ellis said he was going to leave the white house

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he asked someone named sara for talk

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sara told him nobody would be able to let him go and no one would protect him

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he was working with black tusk

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and he was never seen again

mellow atlas Apr 30, 2020, 1:19 AM

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ah ok i was missing some data logs then

cold bramble Apr 30, 2020, 6:06 AM

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well, he did board an chopper out of there

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in the scene where you open the doors to the balcony, the helicopter flies over you

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and at the end, ellis just leaves

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Without even saying goodbye to your agent after everything you’ve done for his ass

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And like I said, EVERYTHING that has made the agents go rogue and caused this downfall was bc of the JTF

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And Kajika warned everyone of this, Keener too

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Which I hate to admit, they do be spitting straight fax for agents I never wanna talk to

green magnet Apr 30, 2020, 8:02 PM

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what happened in central park, ik that its a cemetery but still

mellow atlas Apr 30, 2020, 9:08 PM

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it was basically just a mass burial site like you said. It's not an explorable area within the game so idk
i don't feel like there's much else to it other than that

slim sonnet May 1, 2020, 11:07 AM

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There is tons of body bags near the tombs mission entrance...
I wonder how bad it will smell div2hmm div2hmm div2hmm div2hmm

cold bramble May 1, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Yeah.

short spindle May 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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those body bags are sealed, the div 1 had worse dead bodies everwhere

vital swallow May 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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question

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in terms of story, which game was more serious

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aand gritty

formal moon May 1, 2020, 6:30 PM

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div1

vital swallow May 1, 2020, 6:43 PM

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2nd question

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who are they hunters and why do they hunt divsion agents

mellow atlas May 1, 2020, 7:08 PM

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NGN gaming has a great video on it. They could either be the 3rd wave of agents sent to wipe out both waves of agents

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or they could be their own group of rogue "agents" that are killing us off to gain more control over the city

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in the division 2 they don't appear as often though

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by that I mean they aren't actively roaming or hunting us down like in the first game

cold bramble May 1, 2020, 9:22 PM

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There’s also a theory that they’re Russians which is pretty cool

mellow atlas May 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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cool, but an unrealistic scenario. highly doubt the US government would share something as advanced as SHD technology to a big rival

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but then again shd tech is stolen by even the small factions in the area.

cold bramble May 2, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Could be an ragtag group who are vengeful for revenge against the division

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As you may know, they can’t be first wave agents nor can they be agents of the division

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Agents don’t collect other agents watches

vital swallow May 2, 2020, 4:20 AM

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to be honest, SF who went anarchist like keener but would fight the agents in order to gain info or so

shell frigate May 2, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Some people think they're related to whoever is bankrolling Black Tusk

cold bramble May 2, 2020, 4:44 AM

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makes sense considering our first encounter, trying to extract anti-virals

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but i doubt it

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We weren't exactly hostile to BT during that time :x

harsh sundial May 2, 2020, 6:28 AM

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that fucking WHORE

cold bramble May 2, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Where exactly do the bt helicopters come from and dissapear off to

rustic fox May 2, 2020, 12:14 PM

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hunters are SHD training officers deployed to the field after the breakdown of the SHD protocols and the 1st wave agents going rogue. They were deployed as a force to co-ordinate and take down agents.

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Rogue agents are actively after them, which is why they attack any agent that discovers them.

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ultimately because there is no direct way to tell if an agent is full rogue or if they're just bending the "rules" whilst being true to the ethos of SHD - something that ISAC has trouble with

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as for the hunters' identities, they've been scrubbed bar their codenames from the network database. To provide anonymity for their role as overwatch.

steady plover May 2, 2020, 12:30 PM

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@rustic fox Is that the official lore about hunters or?....

rustic fox May 2, 2020, 12:31 PM

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@steady plover - nah just something i made up in the spur of the moment..

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sounded good though eh?

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i'm a sucker for the lore

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(and thanks :D)

steady plover May 2, 2020, 12:40 PM

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@rustic fox but when you figure....Hunters being SHD training officers,could actually be true because when you think about it who else would know how to counter agents better then the people who trained them,so they know all your strenghts and weaknesses and know SHD tech and skills inside and out

rustic fox May 2, 2020, 12:40 PM

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exactly 🙂

wild hull May 2, 2020, 12:49 PM

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why cant we get the disruption tech things black tusk medics has?

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those blue ones that disrupt you, or the red ones that actually dose damage

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if we went to the pentigon to stop BT surely we picked up blueprints for more tech while we were there

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like theres a room were along the walls there was like models of some tech IE the weird looking drone, also why cant we get our own personal warhound based of the model in that room

wild hull May 2, 2020, 1:20 PM

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yea but the models are there,idk about blueprints
we also have 3D printers in haven in NYC now once you collect all the SHD caches and kill all the zone bounty bosses

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mabey add something were we insert X mats we can get a special drone,our own warhound

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kinda like warframe with blueprints
X Mats + some IRL time = a special tech

mellow atlas May 2, 2020, 2:29 PM

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I guess it would make sense if hunters were like moderators for the SHD, hence why they stalk you in some locations but don't actively attack you unless you go after them, which I guess in their minds marks you as a rogue

vital swallow May 2, 2020, 3:13 PM

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https://youtu.be/AkOhn0rQZrU

mystic crater May 2, 2020, 5:08 PM

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i thought it was obvious that agents were the bad guys and we're playing on the wrong side

formal moon May 2, 2020, 5:55 PM

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we kill ppl who come out of one hole so yeah

cold bramble May 2, 2020, 6:56 PM

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😈 we kill pretty much everyone that isn't associated with the settlements under our wing

mellow atlas May 2, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I mean it could either way. we kill mercilessly but also we protect civilians

cold bramble May 3, 2020, 3:22 AM

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I doubt they’re training officers

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Training officers are based within the directive bunkers, they’re not field officers I know that and division agents don’t collect each other’s watches

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Furthermore, hunters as far as the lore goes all come from the us army field

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Judging by their tattoos that’s caused quite an stir lately

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One has the rank of 1st sergeant and even some private and Private First Class

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So that drowns out the idea these are your ordinary civies trying to get revenge, these could be ex military men who are vengeful against the government

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Because we know the first wave has done pretty bad shit over the course of the events of D1, primarily to civies and JTF alike

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And using their watches are an talltale sign the division isn’t as godlike as they may be

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Or the hunters are using them as sources of communication, more like a transmissions hub (as its the only gadget ISAC can’t lock you out of unless manually done by the agent and or SHD coordinator + commander).

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Also, it seems retcon that the SHD would use what black tusk is using, though, I’d imagine the SHD R&D reverse engineering tech that was supposed to be given to them by DARPA

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As I know for certain the BT more then likely stole everything from DARPA, judging by the blueprints as the SHD was initially gonna get war hounds

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Which begs the question, why didn’t they cater towards the division more then the BT? Why did they leave all of this tech waiting to be stolen? Who is the secret organization wanting to restore the government with the BT?

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Did I forget to turn off my microwave casserole?

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There’s more to the BT and the hunters then that meets the eye, and massive dev’s are pretty keen on making this happen

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Even then, the SHD doesn’t seem to use ranks as their basis

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Moreless like a trusted agent is appointed

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Then they become commanders or trusted coordinators from other agencies like the JTF

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The rest below are normal agents, all coming from each branch of the SHD

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Which mind you, Kelso is a Paramilitary Officer

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That could also be another hint at how their system of hierarchy works

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But she was a PO for the CIA (which I doubt they carried that rank over to her division status)

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in the end, hunters aren’t division agents

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They wouldn’t be using ranks like this

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That’s my other evidence at proving they’re not agents but rather ex military people with a very very thirstful revenge

mellow atlas May 3, 2020, 10:34 PM

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for all we know the only thing we can bet safely on is that they are ex-military

halcyon zealot May 3, 2020, 10:58 PM

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tl;dr

vital swallow May 4, 2020, 2:37 AM

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So, I found some lore in camp white oak

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Apparently someone unknown but female says that until the capital is controlled, Ellis will take charge

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I think it makes sense why black tusk wants to take over dc and let Ellis rule it.

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Like a dictatorship I would believe I guess

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Or they would betray him

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@cold bramble

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I don't know if this unknown woman would be head of black tusk but it sure makes me think.

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Brandon would probably be a commander.

glad spruce May 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Bardon

mellow atlas May 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I always thought it was Brandon Schaeffer lol

lyric summit May 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

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so my friend and I killed saturn, but only he got the lmg from her, and I got nothing. Is that intended, that whoever kills gets the bonus wep?
he fired the last shot on her
bit disappointing as the fight was anti climatic, and the effort was for nought

steel light May 4, 2020, 7:35 PM

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i need help

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for some reason the control points for saturn doesnt reset on my session i tried many things but couldnt get it to reset any advice?

thin crater May 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Open your map, on Global difficulty it says press G to reset control points

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or whatever control pad is

steel light May 4, 2020, 8:00 PM

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im playing on ps4

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but ok thanks for the head up

cold bramble May 5, 2020, 7:36 AM

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so my friend and I killed saturn, but only he got the lmg from her, and I got nothing. Is that intended, that whoever kills gets the bonus wep?
he fired the last shot on her
bit disappointing as the fight was anti climatic, and the effort was for nought
@lyric summit it is called R.N.G

lyric summit May 5, 2020, 7:36 AM

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@cold bramble thanks 🙂

cold bramble May 5, 2020, 7:36 AM

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ur welcome, and it could happen the opposite

steep galleon May 5, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Hey guys

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I found something

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Negev can go up to 1275 RPM

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If you use the magazine for LMGs that gives you 5% rate of fire add another 15% from 3 piece Striker (Which you're convinced isn't good which makes you an ignorant person that has no knowledge of how DPS works) and if you add frenzy on the LMG it gives you another 30% RPM since you have 100 rounds without the gunner large pouch magazine for LMGs which adds up to 1275 RPM and the LMG can still go up to 80k base damage

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Makes your gun a vector with 100 rounds and very good bloom

formal moon May 6, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Chatteebox still more rpm

gleaming verge May 6, 2020, 4:54 AM

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If you use the magazine for LMGs that gives you 5% rate of fire add another 15% from 3 piece Striker (Which you're convinced isn't good which makes you an ignorant person that has no knowledge of how DPS works) and if you add frenzy on the LMG it gives you another 30% RPM since you have 100 rounds without the gunner large pouch magazine for LMGs which adds up to 1275 RPM and the LMG can still go up to 80k base damage
@steep galleon well 80K base damage?? Which one tho

fair kite May 6, 2020, 4:56 AM

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What happened to the president, not the person but like the position. Who would become president after the president left?

cold bramble May 6, 2020, 5:07 AM

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it still exists and ellis is still in that position

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div2relax aside from the super cops from the division, no one really knows about ellis turning

fair kite May 6, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Oh

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What did happen to Ellis?

cold bramble May 6, 2020, 5:21 AM

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👀 You don't know? did you skip to new york?

fair kite May 6, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Kinda

cold bramble May 6, 2020, 5:22 AM

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ic

fair kite May 6, 2020, 5:22 AM

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I'm stuck on the outa D.C missions

cold bramble May 6, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Ellis sided with Black tusk

fair kite May 6, 2020, 5:23 AM

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hmm

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Why?

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Is that the white oak mission?

cold bramble May 6, 2020, 5:23 AM

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way earlier

fair kite May 6, 2020, 5:24 AM

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All I know is that he left without a struggle

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When do you find out?

cold bramble May 6, 2020, 5:25 AM

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he left around the time we reactivated the shd network, we don't actually find out till after the start of the BT invasion

fair kite May 6, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Cool

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Thanks

shell frigate May 6, 2020, 5:34 AM

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I mean while he has the title of president, the us government as a system has basically entirely collapsed

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So any power Ellis has is entirely theoretical. Whoever is bankrolling Black Tusk seems to want Ellis as a figurehead once the consolidate control

fair kite May 6, 2020, 8:43 AM

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Why did he leave?

mellow atlas May 6, 2020, 1:53 PM

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he had information to accessing the antivirals. even after that he was still a potential asset to the black tusk. The BT themselves knew he was a deserter but in the end he still held some value to them

steep galleon May 6, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I was talking about IWI Negev @gleaming verge it can go well above 1000 rpm

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Police M4 can too if i'm not mistaken but I doubt it heavily

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Since the magazine would be too low to use it with Frenzy

gleaming verge May 6, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I was talking about IWI Negev @gleaming verge it can go well above 100 rpm
@steep galleon yea i get about the RPM tho, but base damage is still kinda low on that one

steep galleon May 6, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Frenzy increases weapon dmg AND rpm for every 10 bullets in the clip

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So it's additive but it can still go above it's base dmg

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Not taking headshots or crits into consideration

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So what i'm saying is if you build right Negev is better than MG5

fair kite May 6, 2020, 9:41 PM

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@mellow atlas Thanks

vital swallow May 7, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@fair kite he talked with someone of the black tusk

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but here's my theory, they'd use him as a test subject probably i dunno

cold bramble May 7, 2020, 5:47 PM

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anyone wants to do the shd warhound farming?

formal moon May 7, 2020, 6:13 PM

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it got nerfed

cold bramble May 8, 2020, 2:04 AM

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can someone spoil me if player can kick Andrew Ellis ass in NYC DLC ?

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nope

formal moon May 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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who is ellis?

hexed oasis May 8, 2020, 8:01 AM

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president.

formal moon May 8, 2020, 8:06 AM

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ah that asshole

cold bramble May 8, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Is the poll working?👍👎

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👍👎

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Is this working?

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👍👎

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No

flint pulsar May 8, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Ya know

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Codename Chickenhawk

late lava May 8, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I can't wait to put a bullet in him and Schaeffer

cold bramble May 8, 2020, 6:16 PM

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if we do go after ellis again, we are going to be forced to capture him, he is technically still the president so we won't be able to kill him till we expose that he went against the united states

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it will make us look bad if we shoot him outright

formal moon May 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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i kill this mofo

cold bramble May 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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😘 go for it and enjoy the rogue tag

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petter

formal moon May 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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i take it

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the president betrayed us

cold bramble May 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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no one besides us knows that

formal moon May 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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i ll kill him next time i see him

gaunt hedge May 10, 2020, 8:58 AM

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lol

green magnet May 10, 2020, 2:29 PM

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So there will be a division 3?

lyric summit May 10, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Most likely since division 2 is a mess of sorts, third time lucky maybe?

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I still enjoy it and the fortnightly rogue manhunts are something to look forward too, but the game is lacking any meaningful content or replayable content imo

formal moon May 10, 2020, 2:55 PM

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dont forget its to easy

thin juniper May 11, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Odds are we will get another in a few years, but I'm wondering where they could put it? We've been to New York and Washington DC, my American geography is pretty bad so I can't think of any other massive cities that would work well. at least from a narrative point of view.

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especially since I don't think we're gonna get Division 3; new vegas

shell frigate May 11, 2020, 7:02 AM

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They show san francisco in that cutscene when you reactivate the SHD network

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that would be my guess

cold bramble May 11, 2020, 8:17 AM

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what if virus spread out u can pretty much pick any city not just in US

dusk belfry May 11, 2020, 9:43 AM

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philly

glad spruce May 11, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Atlanta would be a good place for a hypothetical Division 3 setting since its the HQ for CDC

dusk belfry May 11, 2020, 11:34 AM

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atl would do yea

untold shoal May 11, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Walking Dead flashbacks

brittle star May 11, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Wuhan for division 3

green magnet May 11, 2020, 3:40 PM

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bruh

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in dv1, in the llittle safe zones what does cp mean nd the numbers for example cp01 is it central park?

formal moon May 11, 2020, 3:42 PM

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controlpoint

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and the number is the difficulty

green magnet May 11, 2020, 3:43 PM

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o

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thanks

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also

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what happened to the rest of manhattan?

formal moon May 11, 2020, 4:06 PM

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got fked up by corona virus

green magnet May 11, 2020, 4:13 PM

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l0l

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well the green poison

pale moth May 11, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Patrick stop talking shit

formal moon May 11, 2020, 8:03 PM

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eyy

thin juniper May 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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these are some great ideas. I mean, imagine a post apocalyptic Boston or an even more apocalyptic Detroit.

low lark May 12, 2020, 12:11 AM

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I work in Detroit and live just outside of it...not sure it could get more apocalyptic...

thin juniper May 12, 2020, 12:12 AM

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perfect. Gives the devs as little to do as possible so they can focus on story and balance

low lark May 12, 2020, 12:14 AM

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the story is also already there...a booming city of 1.9 million crumbles to 800k after the economy tanks and everyone moves out to the burbs...poverty and abandoned homes are the landscape and your job it so save the city from itself!

thin juniper May 12, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Detroit become habitable

cold bramble May 12, 2020, 9:38 AM

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emp in roosevelt are insane

green magnet May 12, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Well

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I live in New York but on Long Island where queens is but It would be epic to add long Island as a free update or somethin when this is over and the devs and thier familys are safe

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Also

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The division is only based in the US not internationally

dusk belfry May 12, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Detroit, lol

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former soviet bloc looks at detroit and say o snap.

green magnet May 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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lel

glad spruce May 12, 2020, 9:15 PM

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So anyone figured how to destroy the EMP jammer?

nova hawk May 12, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Modified emp bugged?

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nvm it eventually worked

glad spruce May 12, 2020, 10:18 PM

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So anyone found the remaining two audio logs for Jupiter manhunt? I only got two from defeating McKinney and Jupiter

wispy copper May 13, 2020, 2:22 AM

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I haven’t, but my guess is that one (or both) will be in the owl room on invaded Roosevelt, considering how Jupiter reacted to it

round sinew May 13, 2020, 4:55 AM

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But Roosevelt already has an invaded. Are they going to do an invaded Manhunt Roosevelt?

fallen elk May 13, 2020, 8:02 AM

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@glad spruce a friend told me that I have to run the mission once again during Manhunt to get the last two. I will try today 🙂

glad spruce May 13, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Yeah, I got it.

Though the caveat means I have to reset the entire Manhunt campaign to replay the Jupiter mission

wooden burrow May 13, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I tot u can just toggle Mission mode at roosevelt to play Jupiter mission again?

iron drift May 13, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Whats the invaded mission this week ?

sacred dagger May 14, 2020, 1:38 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/SFy4GJk.jpg

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I just got my first Gold!

round sinew May 14, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Congrats, dude.

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Designated Hitter ain't a bad one, but there's a lot of bad named equipment.

grizzled tulip May 14, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Designated hitter was my first gold as well.

thin juniper May 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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same here, got it from a checkpoint at level 23

foggy zenith May 14, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Anyone got any of these ?

Echo
Manhattan Echo
Pleased to Meet You Mr. President

Comms
Aaron Keener
Keener's Psych Evaluation
Keener's Legacy

James Dragov
Family Matters

Vivian Conley
Prototype Battle Test
Crossing a line
Vivian Meets Keener

untold shoal May 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I've got "Keener's Legacy" but its an echo, not comms, so i dont think thats what you mean

glad spruce May 15, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Also, is there a way to replay the Jupiter misison without having to reset the Manhunt campaign?

spiral turtle May 15, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Took down keener and wow that ending with Faye. I heard rumors about it but didn’t completely expect it

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div2thumbsup

placid maple May 15, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Shrek dies in game div2salute

small jacinth May 15, 2020, 3:31 PM

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As someone who doesn't have Warlords of New York, what the hell is the Eclipse?

dusty stratus May 15, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Eclipse is the bigger, badder virus of the Dollar Flu. It is created by Aaron Keener

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Stronger Dollar Flu. It incubates and shows results in minutes apparently

small jacinth May 15, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Wack.

dusty stratus May 15, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Lmao

wooden burrow May 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Also, is there a way to replay the Jupiter misison without having to reset the Manhunt campaign?
@glad spruce toggle mission mode in Roosevely Island to Manhunt

glad wren May 16, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Took down keener and wow that ending with Faye. I heard rumors about it but didn’t completely expect it
@spiral turtle

These hoes ain’t loyal!

dusty stratus May 16, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Hopefully year 2 or whatever comes next will continue the story with Faye and BT, along with other rogue agents.

spiral turtle May 16, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Fr @glad wren

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@dusty stratus id love to see that

normal tartan May 16, 2020, 10:03 AM

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A problem with the game, why does not this work Double XP I noticed this and does not give something Please report the problem to the company

dusty stratus May 16, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Try asking in #unofficial-troubleshooting because I have no clue haha

glad spruce May 17, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Yeah, I got the remaining two audio logs of Jupiter. Interesting that she was somewhat shocked when one of the Cleaners told her about the Morovian Owl altar room they found

round sinew May 18, 2020, 3:45 AM

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There better be an explanation for that

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But I theorize it's some ruling council of Outcasts that are in charge now that Shaw is dead.

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They're obviously enough of a threat that Keener had an entire cell of rogues organize an army of Cleaners to go wipe them out.

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And if Keener decided they were that bad, then they're a fuckin' problem.

cursive wedge May 18, 2020, 9:04 AM

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i think keener's story is overused, "good guy, is mad, goes mad, blow up city"

round sinew May 18, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I would agree. That's a lot of enemies in Ubi games specifically.

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I'm hoping that as the Manhunt stuff progresses, and we see Keener's legacy and what he was doing, maybe he'll evolve posthumously as the best kind of villain: the bad guy whose motives make a little too much sense.

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Because in about 2-4 weeks, we're no doubt going to be getting some dev info on another Manhunt with a new cell of Rogues working for Keener.

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I'm guessing the next cell of Rogues will have Alicia Coswald or Faye Lau. Or, Jupiter mentioned she was planning with an agent going by "Mars," so maybe we'll be getting another set of solar system rogues.

glad spruce May 18, 2020, 6:11 PM

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My understanding is that Mars is a callsign Jupiter made up for Keener when she was communicating with Mercury

spiral turtle May 19, 2020, 2:01 AM

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I just finished soloing Roosevelt Jupiter on challenging

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I want to die now

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God that was annoying

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It wasn’t Jupiter herself but the amount of controllers and rushers that kept spawning for a good while

vivid estuary May 19, 2020, 5:45 AM

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im missing two of jupiter's audio files
how do I get them?
I have the room and land

round sinew May 19, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Gotta do the mission on invaded.

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And Iirc, gotta do the owls

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@Hawkster, I hadn't considered that Keener adopted Mars as a callsign, but it makes sense. Dude's so special he gets two codenames.

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Then that means we may be seeing a Black Tusk-backed rogue unit led by Lau or Coswald, unless they pull some new antagonist out of nowhere, or I'm missing someone relevant.

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Oh, and the dumb True Sons raid, but it'll likely have zero plot interaction, just like the Airport did.

worldly basin May 19, 2020, 8:02 AM

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I want a year two mission where Manny turns out to be a black tusk mole, and we have to go kill him. After Manny is killed you get a cut scene of your agent standing over his corpse and you say "Finally, i'll never have to hear that f***ing asshat speak again". It should be the only time in the entire franchise where our character actually speaks. I hate Manny and his whiny voice.

rapid plume May 19, 2020, 8:05 AM

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as the trend is going, we should get that in Division 3!!
or division side story..

dusty stratus May 19, 2020, 1:18 PM

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@worldly basin he shouldn’t be that hard to kill, considering he’s JTF and they suck at their jobs. If that did happen tho they’d give him infinite armor

round sinew May 20, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Hot take. Maybe the next Rogues will be the characters from the book or comic?

worldly basin May 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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@worldly basin he shouldn’t be that hard to kill, considering he’s JTF and they suck at their jobs. If that did happen tho they’d give him infinite armor
@dusty stratus I would spend however long it takes to kill that guy. no matter how much armour he has 🙂

proper verge May 20, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Please ubi, let us to join rogues or black tusk just pleaseeeeeee, i want that sniper puppy just PLZ!!!!!!!

dusty stratus May 20, 2020, 9:21 AM

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@proper verge Friendly Sniper Warhound, incoming.

round sinew May 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I want a warhound in any new Ubi game.

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Having mobile cover in Future Soldier was nice.

spiral turtle May 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Correct me if I’m wrong but the purpose of the Stalker Hunters is more of just instilling fear into the player, right?

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Like they are being watched

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Cause they don’t do anything but just sit there until you disturb them and then they run off

dusty stratus May 21, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Yes @spiral turtle

round sinew May 21, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Yep. Makes the game go from power fantasy to "I'm in danger" really fast.

honest cradle May 21, 2020, 3:21 AM

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@spiral turtle stalker hunters? I haven't come across them since I started playing. Where do you find them?

round sinew May 21, 2020, 3:22 AM

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@honest cradle they'll appear at certain points in the game world. Your HUD gets hunter static, and they'll be perched somewhere and run off and disappear. You can't kill them.

cold bramble May 21, 2020, 9:45 AM

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anyone knows whts the purpose of bsva samples we get at tidal basin, i can give them to a scientist npc on east mall! and we can carry 100 samples is there anykind of secret mission bh it?

tranquil elbow May 21, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Do The Ark contaminated zone. After that one of the NPCs there will transfer to The Theater where you can give them the samples.

formal moon May 21, 2020, 10:00 AM

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what you get when you give them?

deep shell May 21, 2020, 1:34 PM

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U get nothing

cold bramble May 22, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Omfg don't fucking tell me that I have to buy the god damn DLC to get to level 40 in this PTS.

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I accessed to PTS but it only shows my character.

sleek osprey May 22, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Spoiler alert: People Fucking Die

cold bramble May 22, 2020, 3:21 PM

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or the contrary xd

spiral turtle May 22, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@molten shuttle he basically got real cozy with black tusk and in a sense helped bring them to dc essentially betraying the division

molten shuttle May 22, 2020, 6:49 PM

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oh

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thanks mate

cold bramble May 23, 2020, 12:00 AM

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When we do capture president Ellis what will happen to him and what btsu member will it be

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I know there’s 2 so far jack Bonney or mr Schaefer himself

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Will Ellis be executes there or will we bring him in

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There’s a lot of y1 stories that haven’t come to an end

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Where Ellis is hiding, what to do with BSAV machine from darpa, how will tchernenko make anti virals and who else is part of btsu if the promotional event was somehow successful

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Oh and the remaining members of the hyena council

spiral turtle May 23, 2020, 12:32 AM

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We didn’t kill mayhem yet right? @cold bramble

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Ngl idk if it’s just me but Schaefer seems like an ok guy

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He seems like he may betray btsu if we have an encounter just based on some of his voice lines throughout the game

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Cause if I recall correctly he didn’t exactly agree with the president on certain things and then wyvern directly went against his orders at the end of the game

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It’s just the tone that he speaks in sometimes that makes me think that

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My guess is we will eventually successfully capture Ellis and interrogate him as to why he did what he did and brought BTSU in

pure trellis May 23, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Hard core

cold bramble May 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Schaefer is in some way playing the nice card on this one, provided how many agents went to him for refuge and escape, or even protecting their families as much as the BTSU hunts down agents

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and I mean, he even had ties to Faye Lau before she went rogue and Lau is a superseding division commander (after chang died)

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I doubt he’s really gonna betray the BTSU

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but more of try to convince as much agents as they can to join black tusk and help them, rather then kill them off. Even tho the agents are preventing their nihilistic agenda to make a dictatorship

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ellis is probably in a neighbouring state

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in some bunker and I pray massive would give us a mission where we hunt him down and the rest of the BT commanders

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I would really like to kill the fucker who betrayed the US

spiral turtle May 23, 2020, 3:39 AM

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@cold bramble I like that theory. It’ll be interesting to see what they do with it.

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i just want a damn expansion/story revolving around the hunters

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Literally the most interesting faction in the game imo

cold bramble May 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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they are definitely the most interesting but they are also the easiest faction to ruin

spiral turtle May 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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True

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One wrong move could throw their whole story down the drain

deft sluice May 23, 2020, 4:32 AM

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I just kinda wish they leave the hunters up to interpretation.

spiral turtle May 23, 2020, 5:16 AM

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@deft sluice I mean same but they are so mysterious that it just gives that urge to want to know more

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Even if not a full fledged story just shed some light on them

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Considering they sorta came outta nowhere with the survival update for div 1

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And now they are a prominent feature in the series

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Especially with all the masks, the covert hunter outfit, the Stalker Hunters, etc.

deft sluice May 23, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Yea, I'd be fine if they left some hints of how they do what they do.

cold bramble May 23, 2020, 10:01 AM

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@spiral turtle we still haven’t killed mayhem. Schaefer is a bad guy that acts like a good guy. What he says In invaded CWO is funny
“Yeah I hear that from a lot of folk that end up dead a couple mins later”

“If you want me to rebuild btsu stop sending me fucking clowns”

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I feel like we are gonna kill Ellis like he’s a named boss

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Bardon Schaefer doesn’t kill any civilians without a reason. Like in an echo him and btsu come across April Keller and don’t even shoot her

round sinew May 23, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Schaefer also makes it clear BTSU is not to attack JTF and Division agents unless they get in the way. He's mentioned he's not there to kill everyone.

royal delta May 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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I love how the Vivian Conley mission from WoNY is literally:
"Blow up as much shit as you possible can. Then blow up Vivian"

frank escarp May 24, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Lol atleast it isn’t Parnells mission where it’s literally “if you play on heroic expect to get 2-3shot by drones even with 1million armor”

royal delta May 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE DRONES TO 2-3 SHOT ME

haha rogue striker drone goes brrrrr

frank escarp May 24, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Lol

spiral turtle May 24, 2020, 3:25 AM

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@frank escarp referring to the “rogue agent” you mentioned earlier, that was actually a hunter. That mission was meant to be the introduction of there being hunters in the game and after that mission you can then activate the hunter spawns where you can get their masks from killing them

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I don’t know if you ever see that one specifically again though

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You would have to see what his mask was compared to the ones you receive after killing the ones in the open world

frank escarp May 24, 2020, 4:09 AM

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I wasn’t paying much attention to him he was on the other side of the room when I was shocked so I couldn’t see him thanks for telling me I didn’t think they brought hunters to division 2 just the gear set

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But they apparently are not as common as they were in division 1 (thank god) because they were tanks af

wispy copper May 24, 2020, 11:37 AM

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If I recall correctly, the hunter from the support mission spawns right near where the mission was

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90% sure they’re the same, Demon, I think

glad spruce May 24, 2020, 3:47 PM

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In case anyone didn't notice yet, there are some major spoilers from a recent datamining in the subreddit, so I advise not looking at them

dusk belfry May 24, 2020, 4:13 PM

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id def settle for DLC story all about hunters

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id be pissed if they were trained by some dumb agency like cia, nsa, fsb, krogers

verbal dust May 24, 2020, 4:22 PM

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@glad spruce That's interesting....

frank escarp May 24, 2020, 5:53 PM

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It would be interesting if we found out the hunters are actually some advanced Jihads who are targeting some of America’s strongest to make it easier for a full take over and keener was just a pawn to activate the rouge network to further decrease America’s strength

spiral turtle May 24, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@frank escarp interesting theory

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@glad spruce I got the notification on my phone, clicked on it and almost read it

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But I didn’t, thank god

round sinew May 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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@dusk belfry "krogers"

Thanks, man, you gave me a good chuckle.

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They'll probably end up using some easy explanation for Hunters. Like they're BTSU's answer to division agents, or some off-shoot of SHD.

spiral turtle May 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@round sinew my guess is would be the latter of those two because they have no BTSU markings and btsu was not in div 1 but hunters were

round sinew May 24, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Ye. But just because they don't have markings means nothing. And BTSU was in D1, just indirectly. They were arming the Last Man Battalion in NYC.

spiral turtle May 24, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Ohhh, I didn’t know that

round sinew May 24, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Yeah. It's only mentioned in Division 2.

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But the reason that once the LMB unit in NYC went rogue(because the larger company of LMB feigned ignorance at what was going on with their boys in New York), they were still able to stay so supplied, is because Black Tusk had a deal with them. Black Tusk would drop them equipment so long as they maintained New York.

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It obviously didn't work out.

buoyant crescent May 25, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Anyone want to help finish a raid
we need 4
Were on the last part

bright swan May 25, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Can you invite stadia?

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Bruh the ending of division 2 fucking sucked, the capitol building mission was the most boring outta the three faction strongholds

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The final boss of the actual story missions was defend these two points then kill this boss which has the same skills and look that hundreds of bosses prior had

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Still think bloodhound boss battle where he smashes his way through the glass to kill you is the most badass boss in the whole game hahaha

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:20 AM

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@magic tundra intensely stares at raid bosses

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I thought the ending was actually pretty decent if you got well involved with the lore and storyline

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Well yeah, I know raid bosses and stuff, but the average player doesn’t do raids

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Even with the lore and story line, there was no build up to the final boss or anything, he was just a standard enemy.

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:23 AM

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I mean in a sense yes

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:23 AM

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There was nothing special about the last boss of the game

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:23 AM

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But the storyline tells you about him and why it’s satisfying to kill him

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Yeah I know

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Mainly Manny’s commentary

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:24 AM

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But the final boss, was just the same as any DZ landmark boss

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I mean so was The Bloodhound really

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Yeah but he had a cool entrance at least

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:25 AM

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He just had some added environmental effect

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Yeah bloodhound is still a bit better because he at least seemed scary lol

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Also you gotta think that the game isn’t supposed to build the personality around one central boss

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It’s more about the factions as a whole

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I know

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:26 AM

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And how they all interconnect

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:26 AM

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But still, it was anti climatic

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:26 AM

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I get what you mean

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To each their own though

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Wave hold off followed by a standard run of the mill enemy, i can’t wait to play warlords

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Heard the bosses are actually unique in that

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:27 AM

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I mean the Outcasts are the scariest faction overall imo

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Warlords was fucking amazing

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:27 AM

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True

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Brought me back to the game, reminded me of some div 1 stuff and I haven’t stopped playing since

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Imma buy it tomorrow

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Even for a relatively short expansion, and I won’t spoil anything for ya, it opens up so much more that Ubi/massive can do with the game and it’s storyline/faction interconnections

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I wont be surprised if they announce a second expansion/expand on warlords in year 2/season 2 etc.

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:30 AM

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A NY dz would be cool

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For dlc owners to play

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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There is no NY DZ

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Warlords is purely a story expansion

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Yeah but it would be cool

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Nonetheless it’s still a great dlc

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I can’t wait to play it

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Theoretically the probably could’ve made it a free expansion

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But I sorta see why they didn’t

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Tbh I really don’t understand why Kelso gets so much hate

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She’s one of my favorite characters in the game

cold bramble May 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

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That twist with Faye Lau had me fucked up not gonna lie

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Also they did a really good job on her in the CGI render with the intro cutscene to WONY

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Finna make me simp 😂

magic tundra May 25, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Tbh, they could kill faye lau or Kelso and I don’t think I’d even blink for it.

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Division doesn’t do a good job of making u like characters

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Unless u specifically go out of ur way to spend time looking into the characters on ur own accord

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Kind of think they should of included more time spent with one of the two and had one of the main factions then brutally murder them to give u some proper real hate for a faction

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Boi if someone kills kelso I will single handedly make them public enemy #1

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White Knight reporting for duty div2salute

sonic quail May 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Kelso is the only character I can stand lol everyone else I find annoying

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 9:10 PM

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For real, I don’t understand why she gets so much hate. Her personality is quite likable for the situation we are put in

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Also I don’t understand many of the theories about her potentially going rogue. I mean I can sorta see where people may come from with it but overall it doesn’t make sense

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I’m glad lau went rogue tho

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Fuck her

sonic quail May 25, 2020, 9:42 PM

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That threw me for a loop though never thought she would turn on the division

round sinew May 25, 2020, 11:17 PM

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She lost faith when her sister died.

spiral turtle May 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Now knowing all this I can’t wait to see where the story goes for season 2 and any possible future story expansions

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There’s still so much content that they can branch off of and keep this game going

sonic quail May 26, 2020, 4:00 AM

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And they probably won’t do any of it and do something completely random/out of context

cold bramble May 26, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Lau going rogue was the most stupidest thing I’ve seen for a agent like her

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no one in her caliber would betray an agency that did absolutely nothing to her sister

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it was the JTF that was at fault, not the division

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whether she was saying “that’s when we’ll end them, once and for all” really was true

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Her ideas of going rogue makes no sense to me

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she’s a division commander who’s fought time and time again to refuse going rogue (even if her sisters life was at stake)

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Lau was an great addition to the story but she barely had enough light like Kelso did, which is where some of the hate stems from

spiral turtle May 26, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I see what you mean when it comes to the lore of it but tbh I don’t think it’s all that stupid. It gives the story a good twist and I kinda wanna see where it leads @cold bramble

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it was the JTF that was at fault, not the division

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This is partly wrong

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It was keeners cell that helped with the bombing of the helicopter

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So in a twisted sense it was the division’s fault

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Since the JTF, CERA and Division left keener and fellow first wave agents in the DZ and he/they went rogue

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So from this perspective it kinda makes sense

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It also makes you wonder how long Lau had been in contact with Keener/Schaefer/Black Tusk/Rogues

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Lau was an great addition to the story but she barely had enough light like Kelso did, which is where some of the hate stems from
I can see your point here, but I also think Kelso’s character importance and development was overall better and well versed

cold bramble May 26, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Are the devs forgetting the lore they never fully covered in y1

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I’m guessing the next couple “seasons” are the manhunt targets for season 2

cold bramble May 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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@spiral turtle I’m talking about the death of her sister, since it seems what threw her over the edge

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Everyone’s saying that’s the main reason why she went rogue, but there’s several outliers to her arguments of her going rogue that still has yet to be answered

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The first wave was a total lack of experience and training, I have an feeling they were just mere guinea pigs which I regret saying Keener shouldn’t have went rogue

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As an agent like him, he knew the risks and the stakes, he’s not some loyal agent like Auerilo Diaz. Keener should’ve went on and tried to survive as a agent and not baby rage over the fact his own agency left him, we agents are meant to be autonomous and independent

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Lau has been in contact with Schaefer for information and I assume resources, she had to in these times + the division’s stance is to restore the country, by any means necessary

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Black Tusk’s main agenda is to kill off the agents but their own commander is sympathetic of agents now, (specifically Lau) and it makes you wonder how many agents he has on his side too

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Yes, Kelso was well more versed bc she was a new agent who drove the D2 story, instead of Lau who drove it in D1

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Keener used a SAM and ordered LMB to shoot down the helicopter

round sinew May 26, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Tbh the theories that Kelso goes rogue are kinda silly. She's supposed to be the representation of Division agents being brutal and uncompromising in their approach to the mission.

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In Broken Dawn, a lot of Division agents were kind of portrayed closer to Kelso, insofar that they have no problem executing problems.

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April almost gets executed in Cleveland because an agent saw she had a SHD backpack and confronts her about it. He mentions that taking SHD gear is a "shoot first, don't ask questions" offense, but lets her go because he believes her story and tells her to get out of his city as soon as possible so he doesn't see her again.

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So, honestly, I don't get how ISAC can calculate what makes a rogue. Obviously a lot of rogue agents we see are obvious. But in, like, Lau's case, what did she do specifically to get disavowed? Because based on the others we know of, you have to basically straight up murder other Agents or JTF officials to get disavowed.

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Speaking of that. How come we never see JTF personnel being shitty? First Sons aside, how come there's absolutely 0 corruption in the JTF? Other than for simplicity of story, it doesn't really make sense.

brittle star May 26, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Nah she is secretly rogue search your feelings you know it 🐔

spiral turtle May 26, 2020, 4:12 PM

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@cold bramble we must be taking about 2 different helicopters then. I’m talking about the one at the start of div one that lands and explodes. Injuring lau. Was her sister not on that? I must’ve missed some information there

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@round sinew I meant he real corruption that occurs with the JTF is when it implodes because of Ridgeway betraying them and creating the True Sons and bringing over some old JTF folks

round sinew May 26, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Yah but we don't see that happen. I want to see JTF shaking down civvies, or JTF slacking or some other feature other than them being incompetent but good people.

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Lau's sister wasn't a division agent. She was killed when a settlement was overrun on between D1 and D2.

spiral turtle May 26, 2020, 4:23 PM

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In the Hells Kitchen settlement they were talking about right?

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I mean that wasn’t the JTFs purpose at all

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They are comprised of ex firefighters cops national guard etc

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So it wouldn’t fit their character to turn against the civilians

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You can see this in the audio recordings and some found footage especially regarding the outcasts on Roosevelt

cold bramble May 26, 2020, 4:52 PM

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hells kitchen was attacked while we were at NY in division 2 btw

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so she "turned" in literally weeks

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div2relax someone extremely loyal to the cause turning against it at a drop of a hat

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most of her recordings happened while she was off-screen when we were hunting keeners underlings

vague crane May 26, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Isn't the action (that marked her rogue by ISAC) of stealing Pharnell's watch what caused her to be marked that way?

cold bramble May 27, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Season 5 sounds a bit of a lie. Each “boss” in each season is a lieutenant and Bardon Schaefer is gonna be the main target

vagrant oxide May 27, 2020, 6:04 PM

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To Developers - Does missing texture ? https://i.imgur.com/KAHlqFe.jpg

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Location: https://i.imgur.com/5UV5s8c.png

dusk belfry May 27, 2020, 9:26 PM

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is send off any good

glad magnet May 27, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I like it

cold bramble May 28, 2020, 9:32 AM

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In pvp yes. That optimal range

brittle star May 28, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Skyscraper mode is only for wony 🙁

fallen elk May 28, 2020, 11:49 AM

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That is possible, but not confirmed.

spiral turtle May 28, 2020, 6:58 PM

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What is that?

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Did I miss something

wise radish May 28, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Leaked gamemode

spiral turtle May 28, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Oooo

static bay May 28, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Guys, what did Maya actually do to the Outcasts to make them mad at her?

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This is in reference to the Federal Emergency Bunker mission, where the Outcasts shout about getting her "paying for what she has done" or something along those lines

drifting lotus May 28, 2020, 11:04 PM

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The outcasts treat the division like they do the JTF... they're part of the same government that f'ed over people on roosevelt island.... They don't care if they weren't directly involved.

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They'll want her dead just because she is part of the division.

static bay May 28, 2020, 11:09 PM

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ohhhhh I get it. thanks

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Btw now that we are talking about this, eavesdropping on an Outcast conversation might lead you to hear this: "stupid World Government trying to take over our country"

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It's entirely consistent for them to think a government staff member is responsible for Roosevelt, because they think the World Government is out to get them

drifting lotus May 28, 2020, 11:19 PM

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In your collectibles, check one of the Vidocs on the outcasts

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The one with Emeline on it

static bay May 28, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Is it the one where she appears to have horns?

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The one about the Architect of their Suffering? (haha nice pun)

drifting lotus May 28, 2020, 11:27 PM

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That one perhaps.

round sinew May 29, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I'm more interested in what happened at the emergency bunker

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Because I refuse to believe Outcasts slaughtered like 20 SHD agents with no issue

spiral turtle May 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I’m willing to bet the hunters were involved somehow

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I’ve thought that since the beginning

drifting lotus May 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Im actually even more curious as to how the outcasts got access to that bunker to begin with.

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Cave systems entry galore but... why would the outcasts even be digging down there.

round sinew May 29, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Exactly

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I smell a conspiracy

hybrid hatch May 29, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Cant wait for season 4 and kill faye lau. Chinese bitch

cold bramble May 29, 2020, 10:25 PM

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It’s gonna be the entire manhunt all in season 2 @hybrid hatch. Most likely fay is gonna b a mini lieutenant

thin juniper May 30, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Faye isn't combat capable anymore, odds are we won't personally get to fight/kill her. Might get to see Kelso beat us to it\

round sinew May 30, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Why isn't she combat capable

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She has two hands, yeah? Can pull a trigger?

cold bramble May 30, 2020, 10:48 AM

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If Schaefer dies before Bonny I’ll place a bet that Bonny is gonna be the next leader of BTSU

hybrid hatch May 30, 2020, 10:53 AM

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With all the respect division tech comes in the first place

chrome musk May 30, 2020, 12:04 PM

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The outcasts probably had the help of those faction-less underground people or maybe the underground dudes found the bunker but then the outcasts found their tunnels??? I still dk why those guys are there in heavy numbers in the beginning of the mission

spiral turtle May 30, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Still doesn’t fully give reason as to how outcasts were able to wipe out a full squad of agents

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Also some of the bodies were tied up and hung

dusk belfry May 30, 2020, 4:40 PM

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SO hunters are the ones that sent to kill betrayer agents?

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So you're a hunter and you just dont know it until you defeated one?

dusk belfry May 30, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I want more hunter stuff, lol i finished it all and kinda want to find a SUPER secret one, possibly the leader of all, and get gated exotic in chest after kill

glad wren May 30, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Hunters go after SHD agents and may very well be after rogue agents also.

We play as SHD agents.

cold bramble May 31, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Can anyone tell me about that dead Dvision Agent in one of the singleplayer missions (cannot remember which since it was a while ago), we had to rescue him but when we got there he was already dead dangling from electricity cables and his ghost(?) fought us and destroyed us until we were about to die and vanished. I guess that was a taste of Hunters but is related?

deft sluice May 31, 2020, 6:09 AM

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It was most likely one of the Hunters you can spawn and kill for their mask.

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Think of it like an introduction to Hunters.

slim idol May 31, 2020, 11:55 AM

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tbh if every death I went through was canon, a full 20 agents doesn’t sound impossible with enough sacrificed Outcasts like, you gotta assume some agents are as scrubby as I am and got murderfucked by scorchers and rushers :^))

cold bramble May 31, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@cold bramble it's just a mini mission that introduces the hunters. you can't kill that one. he always shocks you and walks away.

round sinew May 31, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@slim idol fair, but it's canon SHD agents should be skilled enough that an entire safe house of them shouldn't be bumrushed by angry anti-government conspiracy theorists

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Even though there's no canon on how exactly they're trained to be so good, but whatever.

spiral turtle May 31, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@round sinew angry anti-government conspiracy theorist suicide bombing terroristic pyromaniacs*

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Fixed that for you

round sinew May 31, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Same difference

slim idol May 31, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Wasn't there a mention about how their training was always disguised as private public events like, CQC training was disguised as sparring in a gym with what'shisname

round sinew May 31, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Oh, I didn't hear that. Audio log?

spiral turtle May 31, 2020, 9:42 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I need to hunt for collectibles more

slim idol May 31, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I think it's from D1, back when the Division was super secret.

spiral turtle May 31, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I’ve gotten a good bit

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Why would it be D1 tho

round sinew May 31, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Hard to get in D2 since there's no map shortcut

spiral turtle May 31, 2020, 9:43 PM

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The events on Roosevelt didn’t happen until the JTF imploded

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And ridgeway created true sons

slim idol May 31, 2020, 9:43 PM

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bc D1 puts a lot more emphasis on the idea that Division agents are a secret elite

spiral turtle May 31, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Oh I thought u were talking about outcasts training

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I see now

slim idol May 31, 2020, 9:46 PM

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It's always a bit weird to compare your fame between D1 and D2 like, I think like maybe a handful of people even know of the existence of the SHD in D1 and then you have D2 like

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"sup agent, looking good"

frozen sorrel Jun 1, 2020, 10:07 AM

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@spiral turtle ambush

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wait for the agents to be doing things then gank them from behind

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no matter how operator an agent is, tehy can't shoot you if they're trying to fix a computer

dusk belfry Jun 1, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Tbh, we all are hunters. think about it,

glad magnet Jun 1, 2020, 9:01 PM

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In some way maybe but we are definitely not even close to the Hunters. We don't hunt every single Agent, betrayer or not. That's the only thing we know that they do.

sinful oxide Jun 2, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Guys? I wanna buy the NY expensing but I don’t wanna skip any story, is the Tidal Bassin the last story? I did the DLC missions too (zoo, Oak, Coney, etc)

spiral turtle Jun 2, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Tidal basin is the last stronghold that you do, the DLC missions finish out the main DC story. WONY is just an expansion that expands on stuff from Division 1. You will not miss out in any story as you can return back to DC after you finish WONY story and you can travel between the 2

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@sinful oxide

sinful oxide Jun 2, 2020, 1:17 AM

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@spiral turtle ahhh, it’s a bit hard to follow: in Coney Island, Keener is there, and that’s prior to the NY DLC right?

spiral turtle Jun 2, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Correct

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Coney serves as the introduction to WONY

sinful oxide Jun 2, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Allrighty, so Coney Island is about as close to the link between the NY part and the rest, thanks a bunch!

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So, Ellis is still out there at that point, right?

spiral turtle Jun 2, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Yes

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After he escapes at white oak his current location is unknown

cold bramble Jun 2, 2020, 2:24 AM

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alright looking thru more lore and questions about it

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NGN the youtuber is your main source for most of this, that’s where he talked about the division agent training (even tho it’s not really covered that much), it’s safer to assume how their day to day basis is tho

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The fact they can run for hundreds of miles on end, all while lugging 120 pounds of gear makes you wonder just how much training they’ve put into these agents

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Only to see them get headshotted by a random rioter

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It’s also unclear what motive or rather, what drives their motive that the hunters have rn, there’s been many theories that are attempting to pinpoint this all down but

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My big guess is that these guys are like ex army or ex SMUs (judging by the hunters in WONY having army rank tattoos)

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And they’re having a personal vendetta against division agents and pretty much going after them bc they either harmed their families or for the fun of it, or they might be paid to do it

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Who knows how they’re getting all of this equipment, which begs the question, are all hunters under the Black Tusk?

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@spiral turtle they probably spammed them with suicide bombers or that the agents weren’t expecting it

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division agents aren’t a godsend, they’re just there to delay the inevitable and rebuild what they can

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You have the most highly trained asset on the planet with security clearances that allow them to outrank any government official in the US or even the world

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and lose them to a dude wielding some hammer in full on SWAT gear

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it just undermines this whole concept that agents are invincible

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which the game makes you believe you are

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And hell even the AIs mock you for bleeding our using your armour

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But back then, they feared you because they didn’t know that the division even existed

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And they’re seeing literal “civilians” with go go balls blowing people up or enemies getting spiked with a extendable shield

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@dusk belfry going back to what I said about hunters, nobody knows, they target any and all division agents they see or stalk them for information

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which I hope the stalker hunters you encounter in Washington DC will play a big role, considering these hunters are prob learning your tactics and stuff

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Something I really would love to see be used against you

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Lau probably activated rogue protocol or ISAC noticed she was talking to a black tusk leader but idrk, I don’t know why ISAC didn’t mark anybody as rogue before for talking to Schaefer

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This whole rogue activation thing is confusing because I get that they tweaked it for gameplay purposes

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ISAC forces you to follow mission requisition to the extreme, and if it gives you an order, you are to follow it regardless of what you do because you’re threatened with a warning of your disavow

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But ISAC can’t read emotions or tell why they’re going rogue, it’s just going off of the actions you do as a whole

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Whether it’d be going off mission to rescue your family, boom you’re marked as rogue, not saving JTF, boom you’re marked as rogue

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If ISAC was tweaked not to do this, maybe we wouldn’t be seeing this many loyal agents go join the rogues in the first place

random oyster Jun 2, 2020, 4:37 AM

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So I found a mission in which I had to go into a building, inside there was one enemy that was crazy powerful, and used Division gadgets. Not entirley sure what it was. Anyone else know?

cold bramble Jun 2, 2020, 5:10 AM

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@random oyster it's your first encounter with a hunter. Be wary they are quite tough for new players.

random oyster Jun 2, 2020, 5:11 AM

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hah he almost instantly killed me

wild hull Jun 2, 2020, 5:19 AM

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you wana know the bad hunter fight

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try killing a 4 squad spawn on challengeing+ open world solo

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theres a cristmas tree/caffee area that has a 4 squad of hunters

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dont quite remember were it is,but one of them is a female hunter

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youll tell because youll get a weird af looking pink diamond mask

main orchid Jun 2, 2020, 6:34 AM

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So uh

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after unlocking the NOA and getting satellites back up, what the hell are the four-legged things in the satellite footage

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I want to say they're mechanical, since they don't run away from the firefight

random oyster Jun 2, 2020, 6:50 AM

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they are warhounds

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armored robot dogs with grenade lauchers and chainguns

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they explode into EMP shock waves when killed

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there are also less powerful counterparts that are armorless, and have only a chaingun

spiral turtle Jun 2, 2020, 7:29 AM

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@main orchid they are an enemy type for a faction that is introduced in End-Game

main orchid Jun 2, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Oh, interesting.

wild hull Jun 2, 2020, 9:52 AM

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actually you can introduce new players to black tusk early

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you can join a low level friend on there open world,then you can spawn a black tusk bounty

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my brother did it to a few of his friends before they reached 30

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was weird seeing a level 25 warhound not gonna lie

sinful oxide Jun 2, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Hey guys, once Tidal Bassin is cleared, the strongholds re-lock, is this a perpetual thing to replay content or is there really some more story after that?

lone salmon Jun 2, 2020, 12:19 PM

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@sinful oxide have you played the other missions outside the DC boundaries yet?

sinful oxide Jun 2, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Yup

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Coney, Camp Oak, etc

lone salmon Jun 2, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Yeah then WONY will be the next thing

sinful oxide Jun 2, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Okies, thanks!

junior sand Jun 2, 2020, 12:53 PM

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this game died with me

lyric gyro Jun 2, 2020, 1:09 PM

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god i cant imagine being so bored i start role playing in discord

ancient creek Jun 2, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Spoiler we go after Faye Lau in season 4 of the manhunt

round sinew Jun 2, 2020, 2:37 PM

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So who the hell is in season 2?

ancient creek Jun 2, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Some old guy

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Lemme find his name

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It’s some guy called Hornet

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For season 2

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We thought we killed him in the first game but he’s back

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Season 3 it will be some Black Tusk Russians

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Season 4 it’s Faye Lau

naive badger Jun 2, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Hornet was a rogue agent back in Div 1. I think he had a brother or something.

cold bramble Jun 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@naive badger resurrection is real 😄

naive badger Jun 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

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This angel hunter is real thats all i know right now. Died to him 4 times now

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And i have to do the sequence each time

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20 friggin minutes

lucid ridge Jun 2, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Aaron Keener is a Rogue Agent....Spoiler Alert

round sinew Jun 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Oh fuck the new hunters, yeah.

grim spruce Jun 2, 2020, 9:35 PM

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https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/division-2-story-leak-confirmed-by-ubisoft/1100-6477752/

frank escarp Jun 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Can’t wait to kill hornet again but with like 15mill extra health so we can’t nuke him like we did in the first game

cursive wedge Jun 3, 2020, 2:50 AM

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im still mad they buffed stinger hive by 75% for pvp

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nobody picks domination in conflict because its literally all stinger hives

random oyster Jun 3, 2020, 2:52 AM

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stinger hive now covers the entire map in pvp

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sorry for the spoiler

cursive wedge Jun 3, 2020, 2:55 AM

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literally the most annoying ability, especially when rogue groups in dz run around dropping them right before going rogue

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not to mention the bleed can do enough damage to kill you by itself.

random oyster Jun 3, 2020, 3:00 AM

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speaking of DZ, a group of people once helped me take out a camp I was soloing, to immediatley turned rogue and killed me for the stuff

glad wren Jun 3, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Bleed and burn damage will be getting nerfed.

wild hull Jun 3, 2020, 5:25 AM

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😱 ah man bleed damage is so fun

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makes demolitionest frags fun

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or the rolely poley thing that dose bleed as well fun

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and itll nerf the thermite launcher thing

random oyster Jun 3, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Big nerf to the stinger hive

thorny mirage Jun 3, 2020, 10:11 AM

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is explosive sticky getting nerf

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and y dont we have master items

static bay Jun 4, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Why do some Tanks say "gonna need a bucket"? I've always wondered about that

slim idol Jun 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Prrretty sure it's about turning you into a blood fountain because well. Minigun.

static bay Jun 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Ohhhhhhh that makes sense

drifting lotus Jun 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Im pretty sure if any human took even a quarter of rounds loaded into a mini-gun, you would be vaporized.

slim idol Jun 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I’m p sure any human doused in a massive cloud offlammable gas and then roasted by a stray bullet igniting the cloud would be a steaming pile of third degree burns instantly but here they are flailing around saying it burns :^)

mortal fox Jun 4, 2020, 10:55 PM

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very valid point

cold bramble Jun 5, 2020, 2:11 AM

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i don't think anybody's helmet can survive two 50cal shots to the head....

low mural Jun 5, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I mean, you’re not wrong

spiral turtle Jun 5, 2020, 2:16 AM

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true sons heavy weapons would like to know your location

cold bramble Jun 5, 2020, 4:09 AM

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i hate heavy weapons with such a burning passion

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like HOW DO YOU SURVIVE THAT MANY M1A SHOTS???

final raven Jun 5, 2020, 7:16 AM

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crossbow

drifting lotus Jun 5, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Drop that fucking agent already!!!

spiral turtle Jun 5, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Gonna be a closed casket for you!!!

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Burn out the Blight!!!

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And don’t forget the classic

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Firestarter!!!

lilac storm Jun 5, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Gonna need a bucket

spiral turtle Jun 5, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Gotta fix the belt!!!

drifting lotus Jun 5, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Next one's a gutshot agent!

spiral turtle Jun 5, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Wanna see what I can do?

drifting lotus Jun 5, 2020, 8:00 PM

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They got Alex!

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.... wait, wrong game..

spiral turtle Jun 5, 2020, 10:06 PM

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petter

cold bramble Jun 6, 2020, 10:01 AM

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CMERE GIMME A HUG!!

lone salmon Jun 6, 2020, 5:00 PM

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ALL TALK, NO GUTS

slim idol Jun 6, 2020, 5:01 PM

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How do you like my driving skills ?!

lone salmon Jun 6, 2020, 5:03 PM

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You'll pay for killing one of ou-

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Another one joins the-

glad magnet Jun 7, 2020, 8:00 PM

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They killed the damn mini tank!

spiral turtle Jun 8, 2020, 1:28 AM

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[Growls]

static bay Jun 8, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Mmmmm you make a fine target, Agent

static bay Jun 9, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Another dead asshole!

spiral turtle Jun 9, 2020, 5:32 PM

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We should probably get back on topic for this channel now

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petter

static bay Jun 10, 2020, 3:17 AM

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@low mural this is a HUGE spoiler but congrats, you guess right. If a leak is to be believed, Faye Lay will be a manhunt target in the future

low mural Jun 10, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Cool

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There kinda was a lot of foreshadowing tho in the end cutscene

static bay Jun 10, 2020, 3:18 AM

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https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/05/25/the-division-2s-next-three-seasons-of-manhunts-just-leaked-and-they-are-wild/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15917590455198&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fpaultassi%2F2020%2F05%2F25%2Fthe-division-2s-next-three-seasons-of-manhunts-just-leaked-and-they-are-wild%2F

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Oh DEAR I did not expect that link to be so long

low mural Jun 10, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Skyscraper sound pretty fun

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Sorta like resistance a lil’ bit

spiral turtle Jun 10, 2020, 3:59 AM

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I want to read that but I also don’t want to

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Because I don’t exactly want to spoil anything

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Me looking at spoiler channel but not wanting things to be spoiled like

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👁️👄👁️

static bay Jun 10, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Hahahahahahaha

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Yeah @low mural I can't wait for Skyscraper, I've always wanted some sort of insane wave based challenge for Div

dusk dove Jun 10, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Div 1 has the wave challenge@static bay , guess you never played that? QQ

low mural Jun 10, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Resistance

dusk dove Jun 10, 2020, 4:21 PM

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yup!

spiral turtle Jun 10, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Div 2 resistance mode when

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petter

grizzled thorn Jun 10, 2020, 7:16 PM

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never, they already announced there will never be a survival, underground or resistance.... stop hoping for it

spiral turtle Jun 10, 2020, 7:37 PM

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I was sorta joking

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Don’t need to be so harsh

fast steppe Jun 10, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@dusk dove could be that I was just trash, but that shit was hard, especially when the hunters came into play

dusk dove Jun 10, 2020, 7:55 PM

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well Div 1 resistance mode starts easy and keeps getting harder until you leave or wipe, with increasing rewards as well.

fast steppe Jun 10, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yeah, true

spiral turtle Jun 10, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Resistance was so fun so I’m hoping there will at least be some form of it returning

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Only time I’ll tell I guess

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div2question

static bay Jun 10, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Yeah I've never played Div 1. Some of the gamemodes sound like a lot of fun

spiral turtle Jun 10, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Get to the wave with like 4 hunters and like 40 elite LMB rikers and cleaners

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petter

upbeat timber Jun 10, 2020, 9:27 PM

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maybe thats what resistance is going to be in div2 aka skyscrper lol

spiral turtle Jun 10, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I heard skyscraper is supposed to be more like underground

low mural Jun 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Ah yes my favourite, underground in the sky

halcyon iron Jun 10, 2020, 11:29 PM

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ive said this about a hundred times now, but they better center a gamemode around the eclipse virus or its a huge waste of potential

fast steppe Jun 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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@low mural the all new game mode "under the above ground"

low mural Jun 10, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Haha l I like that

spiral turtle Jun 11, 2020, 1:20 AM

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My guess is if there is another major expansion, it’ll be centered around eclipse

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Maybe Faye and black tusk will have something to do with it

cold bramble Jun 11, 2020, 4:18 AM

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shd

cold bramble Jun 12, 2020, 10:52 PM

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||Come TU10 the pussies who hide on the wharf safe zone are gonna get a helluva surprise||

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Marked as spoiler cause yeah

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Don’t want em to know

low mural Jun 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Wharf?

cold bramble Jun 12, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@low mural edited it

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If you know you know

low mural Jun 12, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Heh

cold bramble Jun 12, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Had a mental breakdown on that map today

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Bunch a tryhards killed us to 9 then ||hid In the safe zone ||

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Fuck sake they don’t play fortnite

cold bramble Jun 13, 2020, 7:12 PM

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||blood sucker works with a skill build||

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Not sure if it’s working as intended so yeah

static bay Jun 13, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I mean, a kill is a kill man

frozen sorrel Jun 14, 2020, 4:14 AM

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i feel like i got my money's worth with Div 2

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but i also feel that while it improved and iterated on Div 1 there were quite visible steps backward

wild hull Jun 14, 2020, 6:41 AM

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my whole case with Div-2 (never played Div-1 so i came into the game with a fresh mind)
is that ive reached end game twice now faster then new stuff has been added

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its like yea im level 40 yea ive made builds that are pretty good, what now?

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i got to WT5 GS-500 in the old system before level 40 and when WONY hit i got to level 40 in like a week

static bay Jun 14, 2020, 7:08 AM

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@frozen sorrel COUGH exotics

frozen sorrel Jun 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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@static bay COUGH Six-piece Striker
like i think all of the gearsets before were kinda cheese, but then you used cheese of your own to fight other people's cheese

cloud belfry Jun 14, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Someone said cheese._.

cold bramble Jun 14, 2020, 6:56 PM

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I feel like the gate control point is gonna be removed for a dz entrance in NY

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It’s too far away from any fast travel point and the most useless

lyric stream Jun 15, 2020, 2:32 AM

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If they actually add a DZ in new York I'm going to fucking f l i p

junior sand Jun 15, 2020, 1:31 PM

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im gona hunt u down until u do ur flip

static bay Jun 15, 2020, 2:03 PM

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I have a proposition. If True Sons soldiers includes Joint Task Force defectors, wouldn't that imply that veteren or highly trained US soldiers in-game are extremely damaging and tanky?

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What chance would literally any faction stand against an entire army of US soldiers, all with 3 million armour and guns that do 400k damage a shot?

sand parrot Jun 15, 2020, 2:04 PM

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i mean just gas them

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who would win 3000 trained bois or some nerd who make a new kind of sick sick gas

static bay Jun 15, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Underground would like to know your location

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It's a good thing literally no one but the Divsion and Hunters have access to oxidizer chem launchers

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But yeah I'm surprised only Underground thought to use corrosive gas against Division agents, the moment you touch that shit you're downed within 10 seconds

sand parrot Jun 15, 2020, 2:06 PM

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hehehe boi

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best thing about that dlc

static bay Jun 15, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Guys can I just say that Keener was a huge mess and disappointment

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I mean I hate to hate, but Keener was so ominous but in the end all he did was launch a missile? Sure it's destructive but it's not dreadful at all. Every villian launches a missile.

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Hell even Wyvern did it. I think they even used the same launcher

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What's a pity is that Keener always says that he sees the bigger picture, but there is no bigger picture. Threatening the city out of the blue is not a bigger picture, it's just random psychopathy

low mural Jun 15, 2020, 3:07 PM

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@static bay yea it’s only a missle