#division-universe
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I saw hunter opposite of Naval CP, on the roof, then one on the roof of haunter house cp
haunted house*
10 have been solved, we're operating under the assumption that WM will summon 2.
Did anyone try running around the Monument?
now there's one by the navy plaza, you kill them and get masks
damn, you got me interested in that riddle, gotta play the game now 😃
Navy plaza is Crimson, I believe.
Salute to the national flag one?
he spawns behind the fence and cant attack you
Hmm I am mistaken
None of the hunters are spawned by saluting flags
Not true. The Disabled Veterans one is
it sucks that you can't hop servers to get night time ;\
That's not the flag though, that's the memorial itself
You deadass stand in front of the flagpole on the other end of the reflecting pool.
So if we get keys and masks from hunters, what is the puzzle supposed to be for?
(Look at flagpole)Is this not a flag?
you only get keys from the hunters that where summoned by instructions from solving the puzzle
Sorry for memeing on you, but I can't help with it
Keys open the crate next to the barber in the White House for a unique f2000
Haven't people already opened the ivory key cache though? And got that white F2000 AR
they cheesed the keys
Yeah but they duped keys
There was a bug at launch that let you go to friends servers and kill their hunters for keys
Fair enough
So sniping these idle stalkers gives you masks, but that's not related to any puzzle elements.
I killed some of my friends hunters but the hunters can't be activated in my world for whatever reason so I can't get the keys
so wait, there is a riddle that has steps to summon those hunters and we can't crack that riddle yet? or we just have to guess what to do?
And I can't get keys in other people's sessions
@sturdy crest Are you talking about the ones at the whitehouse monument?
Get me?
yeah
washington* sorry
@amber quartz how many keys do you have?
4/8
The 2 at Washington Monument vanish when you LOS them/aim at them. it's p much a cat & mouse chase until you one hit them with grenade launcher / boosted 50 cal.
I have 11 masks, 10 legit
Those are not the Hunters, they're Stalkers
that sounds like a bug then
but that's not the way, because you have to fight the ones you summon properly
To get 12/12 masks, it is the way.
Do you know de wae?
i do
Summoning dead meme
We're not talking about the masks, we're talking about solving the cypher and getting the hunters to spawn.
well it is a way that i expect to get patched when the more critical stuff is fixed
No, but Greip asked about the washington monument.
you need 2 keys from monument hunters
Maybe we need to wait until WT5 out I guess
Where's your source for saying they're stalkers? @swift night
Also, i've noticed a functioning computer in an office, the only one, it's in the building immediately next to DZ wall, Judiciary Square. It kinda seemed out of place
@short ocean They dont drop keys, and they vanish like any other stalker the moment you attack or geat near them.
And just like any other stalker they can drop ANY mask you DO NOT have yet.
Yes, there are Hunter Stalkers in the game who actively follow you.
I've seen 3, possibly 4
Everytime your UI is fucking up its them
I've only seen my UI goofing near washington monument.
Haunted House CP, roof, across the Naval Base CP, again on the roof and Navy Plaza, west of it
/ near the area where I've got the other 2 masks.
Is the masks a bugged drop, then? Are they supposed to drop masks?
they are probably not supposed to be killed thats why they despawn if not 1 shot
once I killed like 8 hunters when I spawned 4 of them around the chrismas tree
Where's the ghost mask hunter again? That's the last one I need
I think keys reset at a certain time i can loot them all again and i know it hasnt been 24 hours
You and everyone else, nighthawk
must have reset in the last 4 hours
Think he may be bugged for me
No, we've not solved the riddle yet, is the issue
Ghost and Spectre are tied to Washington monument
U can force there first spawns. after that they go all over the place if u mess up
I can't keep doing this.
Keep doing what?
I've went to all locations for the ghost mask and he doesn't spawn. I'm guessing I should join somebody else's instance and do it
if u start it and walk there sometimes he will spawn ontop of u in the monument. if u start it then teleport away and walk to the locations this doesnt seem to happen as often
@swift night write it up nicely once and then just copy pase 😄
I did, I'm at work, and need to update yesterday's
In short you can get all masks without doing it the proper way ( very likely not intended like this) but the proper way for the last 2 masks and keys has not been found yet
ah guess i missed that
For honor, nah I am kidding
They're ghosts ;D
Maybe the riddle relate to mask's name?
Maybe we have to UNITE THEM
returning after dark, do you think there are three stalkers throughout the zone who you've gotta kill?
Oops, wrong fanbase.
You don't technically kill them & they return after dark at the monument?
Well the status IS the emp one, I guess ubi just port that one to hunter mode
I remember I saw someone with emp status without any emeny but hunter around
@crisp sparrow Schaeffer's at the heart of the BTSU shenanigans, along with his as-of-yet unrevealed bossman - since the echoes show that they've been planning the black tusk takeover since the very start of the New York quarantine, before Keener even turned his back on the Division, it's very unlikely that Keener is leading black tusk
He's absolutely not. We have voice recordings of Keener and BTSU CO in Division 2, they sound completely different.
also keener is egotisitcal af i doubt hed have interest
Also he's busy making green poison 2.0, and BTSU is here for the anti viral
Kek
Never, you had any epiphanies at work?
there was a theory that maybe you had to at night salute another agent in the circle, but i dont know if anyones tested that yet
My latest is that I'm not being paid enough, but before that I had the thought that if you put roast beef on an Italian sandwich it's now a whole farm in one meal
They'd call it an Indiana, instead of an Italian.
can anyone recommend a good mmr do one shot the last hunter?
Tac50
^
Just finished the main story, feel a bit disappointed we never met / killed Keener
Also was hoping we would have had battles against other agents like in Div 1
i did all the missions with demolitionist so it gonna take too long to fully upgrade the damage on it 😦
The BT have rougue agents to right?
any non specialization one I can use?
No I don't think they do.
the UNITE riddle, i think we need to take the word UNITE more serious too. perhaps you do need more than yourself
yeh i think it involves a team effort, for sure
Are you sure? The artwork for the cyphers doesn't usually matter
Why are the True Sons interested in destroying a historical statue?
What a stupid mission
@cold bramble Can you add me up got a question for you
If its game related you can ask it here too, most people would be better suited to anwser that kinda stuff
I'll be home in about an hour and typing up my update. I should put that in a Google doc...
Anyway possible to speed up time ingame ?
Nope.
All of us got same time ingame ?
doesnt the riddle also say somthing about sacrifice ?
UNITE - WASHINGTON MONUMENT WEST POTOMAC PARK 100,-925 FACING EAST 15TH ST NW SCAN THREE LOST SOULS FIND THE TIME TO PAY RESPECTS SOULS HONORED AFTER DARK RETURN TO FIRST MONUMENT AND RELEASE ANOTHER
People keep misconstruing "release" for "murder"
yeh its not, u need to release another hunter or person / soul ?
i dunno just trowing it out there,
someone been to those coordinates? potomac park 100, -925 facing east 15th st nw ?
are we sure theres more and they just arent bugged? xD
so I have - crimson, cross, death, demon, diamond, wraith
100 -925 isnt anything special i think,, im there right now
its a tipped over garbage dumpster thing.
Garbage, just like my ideas
so it seems i missed nothing while being away? 😄
we are just trying to figure it out
u had any luck with killing ur self and something with that ring @south prawn
oh wait that wasnt u
nope not me ^^
where is this white house ivory chest someone mentioned about?
next to the barber
I did that earlier, Ash. Nothing.
north of the whitehouse near one of the shd caches im getting UI distortion from a hunter but i can't find him anywhere
Stalker
and they're supposed to be invisible?
Hard to see. Look up, usually on a rooftop, watching you. But if you see them or shoot at them they'll run
Yes that's what i've been doing the whole time, can't see a hunter at all and he's not disappearing
SO, I sort of deconstructed my Kendra's Liberty, and as you can imagine I'm missing the pieces to make it again. Can you get those pieces again by doing the missions I did when I first got the parts? Not to big of a deal, but would be nice to have it!
should be farmable again yes
I really hope so, otherwise I just ruined any chance of having the weapon, at least on that character!
Is it worth it to use my Sweet Dreams to make the Lullaby? And then use the Lullaby to upgrade it in WT5 later on?
when there's stalker hunter how much does UI flicker? A lot of just a bit, compared to regular hunters?
Stalker hunter? As far as I'm aware they wont chase you unless you've triggered them in the game world. A relogg will despawn them!
stalker means that he runs away
Oh, you mean 11 and 12th hunter
not really, in general
I got confused when you said hunter since stalking is usually considered as following someone around and not running away....
there are hunters close to naval base cp, haunted house etc
There are? I've offed all of mine and they weren't close to those locations at all. Are there more hunters in the game world then?
Yes
Do you want me to tag you when I finish my write up on the hunters later tonight, @ripe loom
Yes please do that. I'm down to hunt for more hunters
arent hunters the ones that drop the masks and stalkers the ones that just watch you
there are more hunters, but there aren't more than 12 masks or 8 keys
Oh, makes sense, I've always felt like someone's been wathing me
so far we're only able to get 6 keys
Actually, a lot of people have gotten 8 keys. Seems random apparently
there was a bug where you could get keys in someone else's session
not random, they cheesed it
no those got them while they wre bugge
Explains a lot
man i cant write anymore
I wish I got 8 keys
im not totally convinced that the washington monument spawns stalkers instead of hunters isnt a bug
We'll get to the bottom of it
there's a discord for cracking the clues - MZ8rmd - <- invite. they confirmed that it's not a bug
oh massive confirmed?
I don't want to go to some other server where they think they have an answer that doesn't exist
Unless it's from a official Ubi channel I wont trust it
I asked Hamish this morning and he wouldn't give any hints
that either means: a. its supposed to be stalkers, b. we're missing something, c. he doesnt know and it might still be bugged
total sidenote, does anyone know what the best assault rifle type is
Clearly it's bugged right, they dropped their masks which is a game design. The fact that they didn't drop a key means that it's simply a bugg. If they weren't mean to be killed why would they trigger the mask drop?
Not at all true.
Oh, I like the Tactical MK 16
Stalkers drop, randomly, any mask you don't have unlocked. I had someone test this this morning. They had zero masks unlocked. They went in solo and got two crimson mask drops
So does any other, I've played with people who got other masks from other hunters
they werent meant to be killed so nobody bothered to remove the drops
Precisely. They're not Ghost or Spectre
Again, if they weren't designed to be killed, why are they kill-able
Because no one expected people to actually try?
Why not give them god mode, that way they can be stalkers
That’s gonna be a patch
Of course Massive expected people to try, weired things have happened
the person who designed it said when the player spots them make them despawn - clearly didnt work out that way but makes sense
Also imagine if you gave them god mode and Then they didn’t despawn and then they started attacking you?
it could be anything. NPCs need a health bar in order to spawn in the world based on the engine. It could just be a gameplay sang and not something that matters
Your game perma broke because undying hunter killing everyone
Even scarier than spoopy Hunter is bugged spoopy hunter
even scarier is two of them
Do not give god mode to things lightly
Because if the user breaks the AI now you have a creeping death wave
Or four
This is fine.
the hunter man of the apocalypse 😄
Four hunters with god mode vs Black Tusk who would win
Thats obvious
One Boston Dynamics boi
Qq i got 10/12 hunters killed but only have 6 keys
what is the easiest hunter to kill or are they all the same
thats normal @safe imp
Easiest is probably ghoul/crimson/(that one who soawns after saluting a monument)
so how do you spawn him
Like i can 1 clip them with mk16 in a legit facetrade
Answer the phone
MGL can two shot them if you don’t have good aim or gear
at least mine did at max 🤷
Why waste taxpayer bullets when you can explode them
I can nearly 1 tap but im like 1000 damage off
No, they’re free. From the enemy 🤔
my MGL one shots a hunter with 30% explosive dmg
Well, you have 5 more. Make sure he’s dead.
My ctar 1 clips ez
priority target network or bounties ?
Just do bounty farm
is there no way into the bank vault again if you done the bank mission? want the gold bar
replay the mission
^
I don't have the gold bar but there must be some pictures for those who don't know the locations
oki
are you just saying or want to know where it is @real vale ?^^
I do not know where it is
I checked the vault once or twice but did not have enough time to look
Go into the vault, through the main room into the right one. Go all the way to the wall closest to the entrance
Up, right, down.
I am currently using the contaminated keychain
is that the division code? 😄
No, that's the order of walking if you're looking at the vault top-down
I assume the vault is after the lootroom ?
before you have to breach the wall with the c4
Yeah, just after the CEO office.
like the actual vault
is it srsly this hard to say "the first door to the left after u open the vault door"
- to the right
Well, there's no door, so yes, actually.
creepy, just saw a stalker lookin at me.
Lmao
isnt that what stalkers do? 😄
was heading to the CERA camp thing near the monument
suddenly static, and there he was crouched ontop one of the entrance gates,
there's a few spots like that
it’s a spoopy
@swift night anything new while I was sleepin?
Nope, a few dead ends that I expected but nothing of merit
Fair enough
anyone figure out the last two ivory keys?
Thats what most people here are working on
I have 10/12 and only 4 keys tho. Which is frustrating
what two hunters u missing?
Ghost and Spectre are the two unsolved.
Spectre/Ghost
there are 2 unsolved riddles
Two now?
@swift night maybe put a site with the screenshots before the solutions so anyone who wants to solve themselfs dont get spoiled but there is 1 document that can be linked for everything?
yeah the agrarian truck one
and the washington one
I put a disclaimer right below the cypher decryption on page 5
Well done @exotic zephyr
maybe for ghost / spectre you need to chase them off 3 times then they spawn where they are suppose d to be ?
The cypher section is going to take me a while while I go through and get photos.
@civic yarrow I chased them off about 5 times last time i tried
And of course it's a thunderstorm in my game.
yea thats what i mean - that means this is not a document you can link to people who want to solve it on their own but one document regarding everything would be nice - like just put all cypher texts after page 5 and then put the disclaimer and put what you are doing right now
@swift night its night for you?
whats the riddle again
AGRARIAN TRUCKS
SIGNAL THE RIGHT PLACE
A WRONG TURN (the missing line)
THEYLL PUMP THE BREAKS
ONE F(OR?) ONE
AIM WELL BREAK THE
GLASS A GREAT REWARD
AWAITS YOUR ASS is the other riddle thats unsolved
Ah, ok I see what you're saying. Move the disclaimer up to page 4.
is the one we are working on: SCAN THREE LOST SOULS
FIND THE TIME TO PAY RESPECTS
SOULS HONORED
AFTER DARK RETURN TO FIRST MONUMENT
AND RELEASE ANOTHER
That sounds like you need to kill the hunter on the monument no/
Stalker*
yes yes yes
so we just stuck on the 2nd last line/ last line right
yeah
well I think its clear thats saying return to the WM right
That makes the most sense.
or a play on words and saying go to the first division monument
Had that thought too, sent someone there and found nothing. Plus no other riddles require you to cross the map.
release another. Maybe by pressing the button again you "Release another" right
man i love this channel - nice team effort and all compared to the other channels whining over other peoples whining 😄
yeah, it could be that pressing the button for the second time we're releasing 'it' and we have to find that hunter or sth
how dare you, @south prawn 😠 reborted.
dude, there's whole discord server for these ciphers - server ID: MZ8rmd
Exactly what I was thinking ^
Yeah, I don't particularly need them telling me that killing the stalkers is the riddle completion, and their prexisting ideas of what's already confirmed aren't going to help me.
I have enough trouble keeping this channel up to date.
im sorry ☹
BEPORBED
so if you dont press the button again the stalkers dont spawn correct
you cant spawn stalkers, it's random and they have nothing to do with the button
So, then incorrect?
you aren't even supposed to kill those stalkers
incorrect
@swift night Get good, nerd.
Find another channel, Carter.
NOOO
so then they're definetly not ghost or spectre
Exactly
which we already knew of course
Yeah, but still good to lock down
AGRARIAN TRUCKS
SIGNAL THE RIGHT PLACE
A WRONG TURN (the missing line)
THEYLL PUMP THE BREAKS
ONE F(OR?) ONE
AIM WELL BREAK THE
GLASS A GREAT REWARD
AWAITS YOUR ASS
whats this? what cypher? ^
metamorphis
cameras take souls right so mayyybbbe take a self at wm lol
Next cypher is about fan death and bigfoot
So you press the button, salute the graves, go press the button again and night time. We dont know whats next
Precisely.
Maybe the glowing orange circle means something. When you press the button
I tried killing myself inside it, emoting inside it, and shooting out the lamp that it's projected by. Any other ideas / try it yourself
Okay in the cutscene you get at the start of the game, the orange circle symbolized protection. Maybe that matters?
(Shameless self promo) ^
not even in a remotely relevant room, either.
Maybe we need to protect something, im jsut thinking out loud here
anyone trying this ciphers ?
Only for the last week straight
we're all trying to figure it out
ok, here's something
Directly south of the monument, there's a road that makes a circle, with a statue in the middle.
That statue doesn't exist in real life
He's got a cone on his head which might be nothing, but I'll investigate
Yeah when its night in my game ill check it out
Not for me
in-game clock is the same for everyone
Not true
^
the one on the crane is gone for me now btw after i failed at killijg him, the stalker
i've hopped like 20 servers and never got into the one with different time than mine
could be timezone/region related
and platform
man the game doesnt want me to try - first crash then bug where i couldnt revive now error
On my way to the circles Nevermor
I gotta take my MFing one back
not seeing anything
how many of those ciphers havent been solved?
2
2
but we have the riddles for them?
yes
Wait.
The washington monument and washington memorial are two different things
Just killed a stalker, he dropped some gloves
wait are they tied to irl things?
I heard about these ciphers today so im still a little lost
googling memorial just results in the monument
Yes but google maps doesn;'t
the map is absolutely tied to rl washington
Just as I get to investigating it turns day.
yea i was crashing like the whole night 😦
WAIT WHAT
I killed the 4 christmas hunters
while picking up Cross's mask i revived him...
cause the revival animation happened and i pulled him up then he shot me in the face
nice guy
iam say thats not intentional
so i just reactivated the SHD network, why was there no info about the starter area in the video?
I think my games glitched so i cant get the Spectre mask
Spectre mask hasnt been solved yet
We're working on it now
so we only have 11 found?
10
i have 11 masks
then you got it from of the stalkers
12 masks, 2 unsolved = 10, probably stalkers
technically not solved yet
Stalkers? are they the ones who disappear when spotted?
Yes
Ah
whats the easiest hunter mask to get
Crimson
Ghost and Spectre
The stalkers drop every mask at random.
I have the Ghost mask from them
Yes, because it dropped it at random
That makes more sense then
I've killed two stalkers, and I got crimson both times
i've been trying to get the 12th for days now so this makes alot more sense
They're not solved 😃
I actually havent gotten any new mask drops in my past few kills, just a high tier
The Liberty Deagle, i got the first two parts, but do i need to do the missions after eachother for the last one on space HQ to drop? or can i do other stuff in between?
just did Space HQ and nothing dropped
it shouldnt be one after the other but idk since i did them in order
i think the only order is bp last?
BP will be last drop, yes
is it 100% drop on Space HQ?
only problem i ran into on getting parts was them being invaded instead of the original
just did the Space HQ on hard, didnt drop anything, just need BP and blueprint
i've heard mixed things on if it's 100% or not, like i said only problems i had was running it while tusk were in the mission instead of it being the original faction enemies
thanks! im givin another go
good luck
ive got all 12 masks but only 6 keys.....
I get to farm for the merciless tonight which really sucks
you got 2 masks in the very likely absolutely unintended way @viscid pumice
so what do i do?
try to solve the ciphers as 2 of them havent been solved yet
And GOOD LUCK
;o
see but I have 10 masks and 4 keys
i have 10 masks and 4 keys as well lol
i have 11 and 6
i think it's safe to say the ivory keys are just fubarred tbqh
its just lck on the keys i think
i just join my clanmates worlds
okay, so you know how the unite thing says "return to first monument" what if it doesn't mean the washington monument, because even though it might not have the name, other buildings are also monuments by category
Where does that thought lead you
capitol building or white house might have something hidden
first monument you see in the game or the oldest monument in the game?
first monument is white house
capitol building was built earlier than the washington monument so im counting that as the "first" monument built, or it could also mean white house, yeah
now keep in mind this could totally be wrong, but it was just a thought i had
That raises the issue of having to cross literally the entire map for one mask.
Fast travel
yeah thats not much of a issue lmao
what he means is that you dont have to do that for any other mask
Thats now what he means tho, the issue is no other masks need that
Which doesn't gel with the other 10 we've found
Has anyone tried asking an employee at massive for a hint?
Hamish said he doesn't know and doesn't want spoilers :D
Mawhats?
That big paintigs with that code lol
Oh mural im sorry
Dont know why i said malure😂
I take this as a no. So i do
deagle print didnt drop on 2nd try either, prob need to redo the order, damn
Isn't there a Mission that has you ambushed by Aaron Keener?
You mean the hunter one? Doubt this is keener
No, I just got ambushed by someone who strung up an Agent in a Conference room
Yeah, that's a hunter.
And then he vanished after I punched his shit in
isnt that hunter scripted to fuck you up then taze you and mess with you?>
yea that one
yeah lmao iv yet to see anyone put up any sort of fight in that instance
yeah this is something different its a side mission with a ?
its basically the introduction mission for hunters
can anyone confirm/deny that ubi did patch getting ivory keys in other peoples instances if they haven't killed the hunters yet? I'm getting conflicting reports from people, so not sure if it's possible or not
they patched being able the get multiple keys from tthe same hunter in different sessions - if you havent killed a hunter yet you should be fine no matter which session it is
Yes they did @solemn rapids
cheers for the info, the last 2 I need are the 11th & 12th masks that still haven't been figured out, so will hold off on doing those two until it's fully solved
since I'm 6/8 and would be devastated if I don't get the last 2 from those lads ahaha
Me2 i killed both but didnt get a mask
are the hunters super dificult solo?>
depends on how you try to tackle them alpha
iv been wanting to get all of the masks but idk if i should lfg it or just solo
1 is easy
But i failed on first try
if its a single hunter its actually quite easy imo when there are multiple you have to pay a little bit attention
some you can kinda cheese by just doming them with your grenade/50 cal, some you can kite into npcs to have them fight them as well while you lay into them
the group of 4 are quite doable if you just control the control point near them, I think the only difficult one I had trouble with was the 2 in the pool
but that was just a case of hide inside and pepper them while trying to cc them with fire/flashbangs
if you die can you just go back and will they still be there or do you have to respawn them in
They stay
Figured out that the last two hunters who dissapear just moving to another position when you shoot them, i got one so far that he spawn by the washington monument
But when i go up the rope they just move, maybe i see them when i come from another location and shoot him, them search the known locations, i thought about they spawn where they look but dunno just a thinking
there are about 6 locations the unite hunter can spawn iirc, someone had a little map of them
Stalkers != Hunters
I think they're actual hunters, just not solved, since I've spawned and killed the lincoln one, got his mask & the key, but he still shows up on the resource area and runs off if I shoot at him like the unite guys do
I think there are two hunters around the monument
I haven't fully looked into the vid of the glitch kills, but is the 12th mask hunter nearby the 11th one?
I think so, the first spawn location is the brick house near the monument and the other is on tje container haning on the crane or am i wrong?
And when you fail to kill them, they move, and i think you have to move them like i dont know five times to fight them
Thats the only logical to me
yeah there's more to the cypher than just salute graves > click screen > go fight, since people can see them without doing the grave saluting
yeah that's what I'm saying, there's more to do before actually fighting them, or else we'd have to properly fight them with a health bar and all, not just try to 1 shot them, and I think they run off in random directions depending on where you approach them from
so could definitely be something like you have to herd them lmao
anyone know how much health the last hunter has, he survived 658k to the head
Killed one with two grenades from the launcher and like 10-20 ar shots
In the hunter mask video from widdz on yt are some locations maybe look around there and find some new locations
damn i was puttin off getting masks but just got all ten in like one night
like 15-20 minutes got ten of them
still need the one who poofs when u shoot him at monument tho
I hope anyone figures out how to deal with them soon.. this makes me sick
the stalking hunters are not actual intended hunter fights like the other cipher puzzles
so what if ' return after dark' is basically come back and press the button, aka what we all have done... only leaves the final line
Release another what
yup..
@eternal shale makes you sick?
Im trying to kill them since a week and finding out how far this riddle goes
There must be a reason why they move
how much time does it take before the controlpoints are getting capped back?
Random i think, can hold it for the whole day, sometimes the just capped it after an hour
they randomly send out attack waves to them right? that's what triggers the change?
Ye
is there a cap on apparel cache fragments?
anyone know exactly how to get the sweet dreams?
@winter patrol I tried so hard, And got so far, But in the end, It doesn't even matter
damn, 3 hyena boxes and no 3rd part for my smg
I had to fall, to lose it all. But in the end, it doesn’t even matter
anyone got any updates on the clues for ghost and spectre mask?
Nope, working on it.
Here's what we know so far.
UNITE -
WASHINGTON MONUMENT
WEST POTOMAC PARK 100,-925
FACING EAST 15TH ST NW
SCAN THREE LOST SOULS
FIND THE TIME TO PAY RESPECTS
SOULS HONORED
AFTER DARK RETURN TO FIRST MONUMENT
AND RELEASE ANOTHER
Go down into the monument, and hit the console. from there, go and salute at three nearby graves, then go back and hit the console a second time. This brings us People assumed "Release another" means "Go back to the monument and kill a hunter, 'release his soul' sort of thing". I don't buy it. Washington Monument was the first monument in DC constructed, so there's that line down, which brings us to having everything but the "RELEASE ANOTHER" line solved. People assume that "Release" means "Murder" and they go off and find the nearest Stalker, and try to kill it, which brings out the one shot theory that everyone is parroting. What I want to investigate is does "release" mean "Let out". I've found that there are two power panels on the outside of the Monument, that when shot turn off red lights in the safe room, but I can't find a link there, so I'm calling it a dead end for now. After you interact with the console a second time, a red ring appears in front of the Control Point up at ground level, which I assume is a clue, but nothing I've tried gets any results.
Thank you for the write up
I needed to anyways, for the doc.
where are those power panels?
I think the red ring symbolises my burning hatred but continued focus of this riddle (:
it's a metaphor for how we're running in circles in pain and suffering trying to solve it
or you mean those stun things?
how do you turn on map coordiinates?
esc
I think coords is in photo mode
top right
aaaand, ring is out, it's day.
where are you finding this information?
Which info, the cypher?
"ring is out, it's day" information
probably the fact that his game hit day time and the ring disappeared 🤔
I totally thought he meant something different LOL
Oh, yeah, the red ring disappeared because it hit 0500
ahahaha
Misread like a mofo
After a while a -lot- of shorthand will get thrown out, especially on a big research night.
maybe we are the hunters the whole time
But how to kill urself?
how much sense would it make to shoot the red light and "after dark" go back down and do somethign there?
Tried it
maybe we are the 1 more soul we have to release
Turns out when you shoot the bulb out it just doesn't come back.
lul
Also tried killing myself.
we have to down ourself inside the ring 🤔
tried that - no results^^
Already tried it. Didn't work.
what if it's like those wow quests were we have to trace the ring with our footsteps 🤔
OK, there's an idea. We had to run around christmas to get those ones to spawn, so it's not unheard of.
what ring are we talkin
we have to spawn every single hunter, and kite them all into the ring
xD
think about it, 10 hunters, there's a 0 in that, 0 is a big ring
The one outside the monument i bet
then our body makes the 1 next to the ring as they rinse us
And then a skeleton pops out
10? Sure?
Only problem there is that you can't resummon them after killing them in your save.
^ we just tried
"Only" 🤣
So, here's an aside. I don't need to do graves on my world anymore. When I interact with the console for the first time in the night cycle, I instantly get my ring and single circle on the console.
Yes, same
yeah that happens when you've done the graves once in your instance
could release another be a reference to something we did to summon one of the other hunters? tried a few things but maybe i missed something
and yes i get the circle immediately too
Grave are only need to do once
the first hunter one does reference something else tho
dont think you would solve that without doing the side mission?
So that actually gives MORE credence to the "AFTER DARK RETURN TO THE FIRST MONUMENT" lines.
Implying that it takes more than one night cycle
I’ve tried to even hold T to go rogue while standing in the ring, it’s driving me just a little potty
Go up to one of the flags and hold Z to cut the rope.
idk man, sacrifice kelso at a blood altar at this rate.
Shoot hunter>wait until next cycle>go to another spawn location>shoot hunter....
Maybe?
Nah, stalkers != Hunters
Who said that?
I did.
Hunter is hunter lmao
Stalkers exist all over the map, people only think they're in the WM area because they're keenly paying attention to try and see a hunter. They stalk you all over DC, but just like at the monument, the moment you approach or make contact, they break contact and disappear. Hunters require a specific ritual to summon them to fight.
Source?
You can see them all over DC, not just at the monument.
I only spotted one in the west area near the two spawns
its just a way to differentiate between the hunters that will run and the hunters that will actively fight you
Upon that „bridge“ between buildings
I've killed the stalkers at the washington mon and have only gotten high end
I ran into one last week in Judiciary, near the BTSU ECHO, before I knew what it was.
had one watch me take the navy hill control point today lol, only got one shot on him before he poofed
The stalkers are not Ghost or Spectre, we had someone with 0 masks go and kill Spectres, he killed 2, and got Crimson to drop both times.
I just want some guidance from massive at this point, my brain hurts
I asked Hamish this morning because I felt the same way. He didn't offer anything. I might try tweeting a dev next, but Hamish is the front line on that stuff.
i hope they add more with the expansions
yes
The ones drop keys is truly the ones we seek
Although tbh I killed a stalker at the monument today and it dropped the last mask I needed so I wanna just solve the riddle for the sake of the fight now
all for one and one for... the two keys we're all missing.
I’m missing 4 because I did the hunters in a friends world and I can’t activate it in mine now
I would laugh if there is a bug and we were brainstorming for nothing lol
Thats all I want confirmed. Just tell me that you, a dev, can do it, and we're just missing a step.
"the correct way is stand in the circle - sorry that was bugged the trigger was 15 meters to north east"
I'm going all charlie day in the mail room over this, man. https://i.imgur.com/adJVC1t.png
I asked already, but no one answered
What channel did you ask through? I wonder how quick their support staff are... As in, I'm so far gone I might put in a ticket.
Twitter, fb
OK, so same answer as I got on twitter. GDI.
I think someone messaged support and support said that the proper ways were in the game
That was it though
That's perfect. If you can find where you learned that I'd be super thankful, Sean
tbh my favorite thing about the hunters is watching them murk the fuck out of other NPCs
I did Crimson at level 24, trust me I know how the civilians feel.
oof
my partners were 14 and 17, too. It took an hour
did someone say they figured it out?
Don’t forget, if you got all keys wait with opening for wt5
I need that hatchet charm tho :<
its just an f2000 isnt it?
unique F2000
you can get them as random drops
This might be stupid, but the when you activate the console in the safehouse, what does that circle on screen mean?
Hunters are triggered
Well, the first screen is showing the graves, 3 circles. We're assuming that the one circle is the second bit, mainly the red ring
Maybe it is just a red herring?
mine comes up as orange. How do you make it red (post graves saluting)
has anyone just tried going in the direction the red ring is in?
The light that casts the circle outside looks red to me. If it's orange, call me colourblind and dumb, cause I don't think it changes.
to make it red flick your eyeballs a few times
ow
Its orange
its pretty on the edge, its like a really deep orange-ish red to me
yea I MEANT RED- FLICK ME A FEW TIMES
hey now
def not the same orange as the shd watch tho
Sure not but not red imo
Yeah, but, and bear with me, is it the same colour as a rogue SHD? Isn't that a dark red/orange?
Or is that one stop-sign red.
rogue is red
maybe its rouge? 😄
rouges are overpowdered
and its oval. I wonder why its oval and not a circle
have any hunts gone outside of their area?
Because it comes from above
Is it oval or just being cast at an angle?
Ye
like maybe that oval is some oval place on the map
Hunters won't despawn, so you can kite them for a ways away from their spawn, but it doesn't REQUIRE you to bring them anywhere, or travel far from the puzzle
maybe its the oval office :tinfoil:
ok, here's something I mentioned earlier but worth revisiting. On the map there's a circle just south of the WM, it's a circle within a circle, and inside is a statue of what looks like a civil war soldier. Turns out that memorial does not exist.
Like, IRL.
that's the one I was thinking about. I missed it where you said that
Nor does emoting at it, or running in circles at it
what are these power panels outside the monument?
the red boxes?
the red shock panels. I think it's a red herring I chased too far on my part, not sure it's anything of value, but shooting them turns off a red lamp in the safe room
u shot all 3 of them?
I shot the two that I knew of, and there were only 2 red lights downstairs.
i did and didnt have any new results
Someone else tested shooting all 3 for me, and nothing else changed.
theres 3 red power boxes outside
That map with the lights?
Map?
no
Or what r u talking about
Different site, that's Ghoul, it's been solved
Ah
Can confirm that shooting out the lights in the safe room does nothing but make it really creepy and scary.
has anyone tried going under ground there is an underground spot right in front of the wm
I've not, worth investigating though
lots of red lights under there
But that's it for me. If you guys find anything new, feel free to whisper me, I'll add it to the doc.
theres like 5 tunnels to go in near it
Wich do you mean exactly? @civic yarrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/558371187332218895/558453268079050753/Tom_Clancys_The_Division_22019-3-22-1-54-14.jpg the underground map hack also doesnt reveal anything xD
Dafuq😂
very nice room xD
just found this room
my screen and havnt pressed the button weird
have the devs given out anything to help?
who runs the division2map website?
Anyone doing stronghold do the island first special if you are solo, world tier 3 is annoying with the tank and opening container
Found a unmarked ladder down to a locked door east of south dz entrance
@eternal shale that part of the dz mission to unlock it
Eww ok😂
@eternal shale someone nicked the fuses
:p
Ok that hunter on top of the wm dos not spawn anymore, only the one on the cafes roof or the white building beneath it
Dunno where to search lmao
yeah i been lookin all night too
How much HP does the Ghost Hunter have? Headshot him for 400,000+ and he just instantly disappeared (I got crosshair, I know I hit)
I have 6 masks myself
He's not a ghost hunter, he's a stalker
That's all I get from a stalker
it's only 5 30, but the ring on the screen downstairs is already gone
i guess it ends at 5
Is it disappearing 5 or 6 ?
I guess it disappears at 5. I thought we ahd till 6
it ends at 5 yes
@visual frigate was on my way to a control point and ran into a stalker, shot him and got the ghost mask lol
it can drop any mask apparently @sterile gate
you can get all 12 masks that way, but you don't get the keys
Yeah but the only ones I dont have are spectre and ghost, so it rolled for it
night is from 19.00 till 05.00
yeah I know how it works
people have gotten the Crimson mask and a couple others from stalkers
think I have crimson
yeah that was me, I was the one who tested that Tank
So why i dont get the last masks?
which ones have to be done at night?
All
All but Demon and Crimson
oh duh lol. I can't keep up with all the names
thought it was all but one ?
😂
Demon and Crimson can be done any time
they need to fix that reddit guide then
ive just done one midday, wraith i think?
Is he the shoot the targets one?
cant get revenant or midas to spawn tho
Have to jumping jack in the pool at night
reddit guide says you can only do demon at day
Problem with player made guides :c
Yt guide says all at night
lol
one can be done in the day, but I forgot which one. I steamrolled through the 1st ten
maybe the release another is that tomb in the middle at bottom?
That tomb is for the wt5 stronghold
Awee when you got Cross, Death, and Diamond you didnt get Phantom did you @real vale
Its not already confirmed that you can get all eight keys as far as i know
Yeah the only way you could was a glitch
no I don't have phantom
Yep
I got one key out of 3 masks
What are the coordinates? of the tomb
Damn idk how youll get it, because I think you need to spawn it while fighting the other 3
I have 4 keys from 6 masks
so when you push the button the ring shows up there is some cords in the top right maybe its readable?
top left*
really now
tried looking at youtube videos but its too blurry
maybe use the camera drone in game to read it
it just too blurry? cause the graves its the right cords
Maybbeee its in the middle of all the graves?
Like the center of the triangle the graves make
The elite with the hammer on WT4 in a party of 4 is super hard to kill is the scaling broken or something
shoot the legs
with 4 mag of 100 bullets he didnt even budge
That one who said they are all over the map - the hunters - i think searching around the wm is a little time waste but i only know another location outside the wm area. Its in the west end district on that bridge between the houses but this was my very first meeting with one and he disappeared so unfortunately we have to search all around the map and i believe the parachutes play a role
@scenic plume whats your dmg?
Should not be a problem so far i need 1-2 mags with my ar at 18.2k dmg
Even in groups
1 of the purple guy took a whole round of those stationery turrets and it didnt even break its armor and got overheated
Scaling might be an issue i guess idk
in solo , 2 ppl and 3 ppl its fine
but when 4 ppl play then its like hell
Im using the ranger perk on my wep for every 5m i get 2% extra dmg and for 10% armor lost 10% more dmg
On my chest
i have 57% dmg to elites and 2-3% of weapon dmg mods
atm i use police m4 + infantry mg5 for high rpm and sharpshooster for the signature
I am using the Police Mk17
So you should use the spec to that weapons you most like, ar/lmg
I hate the crossbow but i need that 15% ar dmg bec i love ars
With a good ak i can get around 19k dmg
But with the gren launcher and my best lmg the black market m60 im on 19.9k
i want to make a nice build but for tht i need to reach the top tier and since t5 is locked i will have to suffer bcoz i will have to let go of tht gear in t5
if i make a build
Sure you do, but it takes a few weeks until wt5
yup
So its worth to have a near perfect gear setup
i have a sweet dreams at gs 450 i will stash it then wait for t5
Nice, i was not hunting for anything so i only have 2 pistol parts, maybe i do this sometimes
MG5 is trash imo
its damage is too low, reload too slow, recoil just as bad as m60
you should use m60 for a sustained dps MG and rpk for high burst MG
k let me see what i have
i have a classic rpk 74
it has Frenzy and allegro talent and attrib
that's actually
really good
black market rpk is the best variant but I think classic might have a better recoil pattern
allegro makes it competitive with ARs in dps and frenzy is an amazing talent that synergies perfectly with rpk's fast reload
1 more hour till we can all go back on the hunt
does it matter if we play the mission on hard or challenging ?
cord are unreadable
confirmed. I did every angle with photo mode
Im in group 12 if you want to join snipes
has anyone thought that the way the WM basement screen flickers might be morse code?
it seems uneasy and choppy so if anyone has tried to translate it let me know
i feel like there are too many different intervals to clearly decide whats long and whats short
I’d say it’s good enough for a rough translation at least, if someone has the time an skill
Just to cross it off the list
I mean you could do it, just right it down and put it in a translater
if you shoot the light outside with a heal from the chem thing the light flickers
I have absolutely 0 knowledge about morse code other than knowing that it’s flashing lights lol
dots and dashes homie
I’m lost already
lol im doing 30% dmg on Assault rifle and 78% against elite xD
we just need to find out how to release a soul. whatever that means
Okay i got one hunter moved 3 times or 4 idk he is now near the underground entrance at the metro ruins, just south of the jefferson dr sw street
It doesnt say release a soul specifically, just “release another”
At next night cycle ill need to find a new locatiln
Yes another soul lol
And my thoughts were confirmed, he was on the cafes roof, looking east
And he was east, so maybe the next is in dz south
If i saw right
i checked underground alst cycle and didn't find anything
you guys know the hunter location near the district arena ?
next to stronggold
theres a hunter there that runs
Yeah Mirage
I'm at 5 boxes since my 2nd part, the cd for the keys is the worst part, got about 20 of the other keys but no hyenas left
welp there goes another night
did anyones light ever not turn off at 5?
Dont think so
@swift night did you try saluting the tombstone inside the loot room
theres a button under wm, any idea what thats for
._.
To turn the screen on?
do you mean the actual button or the console?
nah the button up the ladder
Easter egg
not that anythign is happening but its 7 now and my light is still on - i assume once i leave the area it turns off tho
@south prawn we talking the light up the laddeR?
Ye you need to move out
When you enter to early and hit the time down there you wont be able to activate
So its the same in the morning
but you can activate once going up and down again - i can go up and down and the screen + light is still on
Huh then check some locations
hm i think it just bugged - went to all 3 graves again and it was still on when coming back but after killing myself it turned off - if it was supposed to be on at daytime i dont think you could fail it by dying
does anyone know how to fix SHD network glitch
when u complete the mission but u don't actually complete it and are stuck?
can a random high end d50 work for crafting kendra's liberty?
yes
sweet ty
Any movement on the Unite hunter?
HyDDEN. Sound familar to anyone?
ive been informed that the hydden thing is a separate easter egg apparently
is that really a leak? you can see the ship from land
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EPIC
🍆 🍑 💦
anyone know a good place to see all the spawn points after you shoot the ghost hunter
minor tip - the jtf glasses are the only ones ive found that dont clip through hunter masks, if you really want the black eyehole look
Are you able to get more than 6 ivory keys at all?
i believe we don't know the proper method for the last 2
Because I've got 10 masks (ghost and specter just give me so much shit) and acquired 6 keys total this entire time even after killing the all the others multiple times for other friends sessions.
So I'm trying to confirm that there is or isn't a way to get beyond 6 keys at this particular time.
its tied to the ciphers i think
What do you mean?
While there are 12 Hunters you can kill to obtain 12 masks, not all of them drop Ivory Keys. At this time we only know 6 that do.
And those are a one-time drop per player, I'm figuring?
Once yeah. The Ghost & Spectre hunters are reportedly not being triggered properly like the others.
I'm pretty sure it's tied to the riddles, which the community solved for exact steps to spawn the other hunters but they haven't cracked the last two yet.
The things you shoot are NOT hunters...
What are the riddles you're referring to?
Decoded messages
@cold bramble thanks. Was unaware of that, pretty cool.
is the first division monument in the game?
So do you know how I can get the ghost and spectre masks? I'm pretty sure I've gotten ghost to spawn on the crane thing multiple times in groups, but he just won't go down. Someone pumps a super high damage single shot to the head and he just poofs.
Also if we do it now, does that prevent us getting the keys later? Or do we just do it /correctly/ on someone elses session that hasn't done it to get the keys?
people say that you can't get keys from a hunter if you've killed them in your session
So should I just wait on getting those two last masks then?
yesh until they're solved is the best bet
It shouldnt harm you to get em now. Just removes the mask from the pool.
you could always find someone who doesnt mind potentially not getting the keys and use their game session
In my session, the guy on the crane keeps spawning at night with the whole red circle at monument thing
if I interact with the button it goes straight to orange circle screen not the grave dots
yeah its a "checkpoint" so to speak, you dont have to redo the grave part every time
Haven't killed Ghost or Spectre Hunter, yet they never spawn anymore after my first attempt. I hit the button, but there's no distortions and they don't appear. I did the grave part, what am I missing?
Not much, apparently. lol
the riddles arent solved yet so they're both still random spawns afaik
so I had a look around the actual first monument, a bunch of graves, a grave box thing with a number on the lid, but nothing obvious there
How is it random if he is on the crane after the whole grave and button business?
random as in they run away instead of triggering a fight, like the other hunters you can see around the map
if you go back to the other hunters after killing them and don't trigger the spawn again they'll do the same thing too, at least the one east of the lincoln memorial does
Does the Ghost and Spectre Hunter both drop a key? I have 6/8 and they're the only two I'm missing.
they're not solved yet so we've got no idea, but people assume so
Has nobody killed them?
they've been killed, but the cypher isn't fully solved
you can kill them and they'll drop a mask but no keys
idk how people kill them i headshot the ghost for 1 million and he just poofs away
killing them in one shot while they run isn't intended, you're meant to fight them like every other hunter
idk how iv seen videos of people 1 shotting the ghost on the crane it just seems so bullshit
I hit over 400,000 and he just poofs. I kill Named enemies and other Hunters in one shot
i feel like we have to nock him off the crane or drop the crane
because that seems like the only logical way to get him to actually fight you
well the last bit of the cypher is what people are missing, possibly the last 2 lines "after dark return to first monument, and release another"
I feel like the first part is to go back and turn the screen to the circle, but the second bit is unknown still
after you kill the ghost iv seen people say the spectre spawns back at the monument preety often
anyone here oneshot the ghost yet ?
"After dark return to first monument". What's the first monument you're supposed to see in-game?
ive seen vids of it, but i havent done it myself in case it bugs out the ivory key drop
the white house or the Washington monument come to mind
i feel like it has to be one of those
I'll scout the White House, see if I see another grave anywhere nearby.
there are plenty of graves east of it, near the monument
I'll let you know if I see anything.
just north of the main mission there, on the block between 17th st nw, e st nw, west executive ave nw, and south lawn road
Wait a minute... I think I figured it out.
what about the door under the Washington monument the one that has a button with a cable leading under it anyone opend that yet?
lets hear it
Although I've done the grave parts so I think I may have broken it already. Just outside the eastern wall of the White House, there's a grave that's unmarked that has a scabbard near it. (Am I allowed to upload pictures?)
you can link 'em but not upload 'em here
you can post imgur links
im not seeing the grave
Forgive the windowed, the game wouldn't allow screenshots in fullscreen.
And, you can see the monument from the grave.
wait actually that could be something considering the monument we start at is the Washington monument and you found Washingtons sword and shield
Is it the same time for everyone in-game?
Yes
try saluting towards the monument
Well, I'll come salute at 19:00 sharp and tell you if static appears. If anyone else wants to be my guest. :)
@serene seal press the button first
after picking up the sword and scabbard did anything happen? maybe now something can happen once you have them
Just in case I won't pick them up until night time, as that's what the Cypher asks for.
wherers the shield?
Shield?
Sword and shield?
AFAIK only the sword and scabbard are at the grave.
Oh you mean pick up the collectable?
Yeah