#ask-td2-community

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true siren
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That works too.

whole parcel
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thanks

mystic lodge
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If I activate perpetuation dies it deactivate after switching weapons

heady stirrup
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What does weapon handling do? Like specifically

narrow matrix
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So assuming you have a full roll of weapon handling on a piece of gear (8%) that’s 8% of the above stats

heady stirrup
narrow matrix
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Hmm?

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There is no exotic that does that

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The only talent that does it is unwavering … or on empty and outsider

heady stirrup
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Like I said, I’m coming up with one

narrow kraken
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Is there an updated spreadsheet or something showing max dps for weapons before optimizing?

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Been farming MPX’s and the higher I’ve gotten so far is 122.9k DPS. I’ve gotten worse SMGs with higher DPS. Trying to figure out what the max DPS would be so I can wait for that one and optimize

narrow matrix
narrow kraken
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Thank you

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why is the horse made out of iron and not horse

narrow matrix
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Some smgs have low burst damage meaning their fire rate paired with their bullet damage per second is not high enough for CQC

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So just bc you see a higher dps doesn’t mean it’s actually higher you’ll notice the burst when being rushed and up close

vocal gyro
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Any advice for killing hunters?

narrow kraken
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Shows base damage at level 40 at 55k mine is at 122k dps

narrow matrix
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Foam works well to get a couple shots if they push

narrow kraken
narrow matrix
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I don’t know what to tell yah

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Press L3 I believe and toggle show base damage

tropic saffron
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When you start a 2nd character and get it to lvl 40, does it put the same SHD lvl as the first one?

narrow kraken
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Yes, after you get Keener's watch

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So you get to re-spend all the points

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i.e. how people hit expertise 20 in a day

copper jacinth
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Can nemesis drop in countdown?

inner tendon
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As long as you've collected the Blueprint, then: yes.

copper jacinth
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oh i didnt, thanks

fallow inlet
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Yup gotta wait for an invaded GWH

nimble spruce
fair bone
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How much better are legendary drops compared to heroic?

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Also, do directives help get better rolls or do they only make targeted loot more likely to drop?

fair bone
dim crag
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Is there anything else I should look for in Kenly after I got Diamondback?

supple swift
oak talon
# fair bone How much better are legendary drops compared to heroic?

they are noticeably better, as legendary has better minimum rolls, thus increasing the chances of a usable roll, and god rolls become more common
and drop quality is only affected by difficulty, target loot frequency is affected by both difficulty and number of directives

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on if its recommended to go legendary, it will depend on how effective you/your group are at clearing legendary, if you can keep a decent pace in legendary its will be worthwile
for stuff like gear mods, i find it much easier to farm there for good rolls over heroic,
but if you are barely moving along in legendary, its way better to stick to heroic and get more drops overall to increase your chances at something usable

fair bone
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I play mostly with random so the groups are hit or miss

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I don't think my build can handle legendary well enough to push at a steady pace

fair bone
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The summit in heroic is fast, only get a real pushback in the tip floors, say 90+

fair bone
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What's the "you have 2 weekly challenge rewards" notification?

midnight osprey
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is there any spreadsheet about materials needed for expertise??

modern sparrow
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There's an exotic vest give armor to me and my allies when our shields is broken can i get that vest from countdown?

silk scroll
dim crag
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Can you still do all the open world Hunter encounters for the masks on a boosted character? Cause I read you can't start those before you did this side mission and since I can't do them on a booster character, are they considered done and I can kill the Hunters anyway or do I need to make a new character?

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Fair point, worth a shot

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Thanks

tulip fiber
fallow inlet
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@dim crag did you open all 3 secret rooms

dim crag
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Did I open what now?

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I don't even know all the steps, I just skipped through a video to see what the masks look like

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Didn't want to look into that before I knew if I could even kill them at all

fair bone
molten jetty
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tbh right now what i do is, go to countdown, select the thing you want, to and do it, loot EVERYTHING as trash unless it got something you want, extract, donate

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takes about 30 item of the same brand to rank it up to max i think....

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oh hell....

fallow inlet
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@dim cragyou asked about kenley colledge, there are secrect pain in ass rooms to get into

modern sparrow
dim crag
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Guess I could go back and get those

fallow inlet
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Take a friend or 2 it helps

tulip hollow
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Is there any way to get a Rouge agent duo to spawn consistently?

oak talon
tulip hollow
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Do I have to be playing on hard?

fair bone
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Technician lvl 4 field research assignment: what does it mean to kill an EMP jammered enemy? I don't have access to the emp grenades so I'm not sure how to emp them

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Ah gotcha 👍

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As a general rule of thumb, what kind of pieces is it worth to donate materials for? Weapons (+damage) and what else? Gear pieces having +armor I dont know if they're worth upgrading

narrow kraken
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ok i like genuinely cant find any info on what "kill enemy scorchers" means

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like cleaners w/ flamethrowers? pvp?

fair bone
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@narrow kraken okay thanks 👍 I'm wasting some resources when I deconstruct cause I got the cap, so I was wondering what I could use them for

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Best healing t0 skill for a DPS build?

mild dome
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do chest armor drops from targeted loot only drop with the weapon damage core attribute? I've been trying to farm some specific chest pieces today and I haven't seen a single non weapon damage core stat drop in at least 20 targeted chest drops

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or is it maybe brand dependant?

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I see, thank you. Is there an overview somewhere on what brand drops with what core attribute?

oak talon
molten jetty
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could try the emergency bunker, there's a room full of them

narrow kraken
molten jetty
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West End, top right corner, of west end, West end is at top left

narrow kraken
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thank you ^^

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one more thing, if I spam fire as a firewall, what other skill should I be using besides the fire shield

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chem launcher?

molten jetty
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for fire attacks? chem launcher if you can shoot the cloud fast enough, if not, airburst seeker

narrow kraken
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oki

oak talon
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for the fire chem launcher, double tapping the button its on will ignite the cloud, there isnt ever a good reason to actually do it by shooting

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also if you are a red style build you are best off just using a revive hive+shield

narrow kraken
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looking more into yellow than red tbh

narrow kraken
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So you can’t pick targeted weapon mods in countdown? You can only get them in Summit and doing level 3/4 check points?

narrow kraken
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I was targeting loot in there earlier

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I selected gear mods but they haven’t been line weapon related like lasers or magazines

oak talon
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weapon mods dont work the same as gear mods

narrow kraken
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oh my bad

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misread that, sorry 😓

narrow kraken
oak talon
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your main sources for weapon mods are the ones you unlock from the quartermaster for shd caches, and the specific blueprint you get from side missions and then general pool blueprints that you get from cp3/4, invaded missions, projects and other sources for blueprints

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they are all listed in the spreadsheet in the pinned comments in #td2-build-advice , with what blueprint comes from what source

oak talon
narrow kraken
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:/ it wants me to do it on vet wtf

fair bone
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In some summit floors there are hives. when I get close, I can see the green sparks coming my way but my shield doesn't restore. Is that a glitch?

molten jetty
winter glen
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can you get a rock & roll shotgun from countdown?

cedar tide
oak talon
narrow kraken
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I thought if you had a piece of gear let’s say a holster and it has 80% of max armor and weapon damage. I was under the impression that using that gear equipped would make those stats reach max. But now I’m reading you have to use optimization

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I thought using the gear makes it proficient and raises the attributes to max or is that only with weapons or something

true siren
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using the gear and increasing proficiency isnt how you raise the attributes

narrow kraken
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Considering how high the cost is like 1500 smg parts in optimization probably makes more sense to farm for a god roll instead of trying to get and deconstruct 1300 smgs

true siren
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Its a marathon, not a sprint.

narrow kraken
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I also screwed up recalibrating my high dps smg. I changed the talent to close and personal and now I can’t change the attributes. Didn’t realize it was a one time thing/you can only change either a talent or 1 attribute not eveything

true siren
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Sounds like you'll need to find a new SMG.

narrow kraken
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I farmed the same SMG and got a bunch but no where near the same DPS one I’m using now. Might be a max dps one

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Have a MPX doing 122k DPS but a stupid swap attribute I find useless (would prefer 10% damage out of cover more) but all the other MPX’s I’ve gotten from countdown are like 112k dps

true siren
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i generally dont trust the dps counter myself. Any MPX with the same #s will be the same.

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assuming everything else in your build stays the same

narrow kraken
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I farmed 10 expertise levels and want to get the same DPS but with the attributes I want before leveling it up. I also got the Scorpio exotic the other night and is super low dps compared to common shotguns so I’m not going to level that one up either

true siren
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scorpio is the best shotgun

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good firerate, good damage, reload doesnt take a year, and it completely negates any problem enemies.

narrow kraken
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Yeah but the DPS is kinda low, wondering if I got it again if the DPS would be higher

true siren
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you are focusing on dps too much, just reconfigure it a few times until you get near max rolls and go on your way

narrow kraken
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Think the DPS is like 800K and I have other common shotguns in the high 900k to 1 million

true siren
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normal shotguns dont add status effects to the enemies as easily

narrow kraken
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What do you mean reconfigure?

true siren
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and the massive debuff

true siren
narrow kraken
true siren
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you do have to buy the blueprint from inaya, you might need to log out and log back in for it to appear

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but regardless scorpio is a workhorse of a weapon, very very good

narrow kraken
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And I think people have posted to on Reddit to not reroll exotics as the numbers go down more often the going up

true siren
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also not really correct

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i've gotten perfect roll exotics, i've had exotics go down a bit. Generally i'd get two exotics and then reroll the lower one

narrow kraken
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And you can’t reroll high ends? Just change one attribute in recalibrate?

true siren
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no rerolls for highend stuff, no

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just recalibration and optimisations

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1 recal, infinite opti until its stats are full

narrow kraken
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And just want to double check this but you can only change 1 thing in recal? Meaning I can’t change all 3 attributes and the talent? I’m only allowed to do 1 ? And once I do it I can’t go back

true siren
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you can only change one line, if you have an SMG that has 0.1% weapon damage, 0.1% critical hit chance, and then 0.1% damage to out of cover and reformation or whatever, you could max out weapon damage, but then you cant change damage out of cover or the talent, just optimise the DTTOOC and CHC- or you could change the talent and optimise it given the resources, but once you recalibrate that line it wont let you recalibrate any other lines

narrow kraken
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Yeah that’s what I thought

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Changed the talent to close and personal and couldn’t change the swap attribute after

true siren
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rip

narrow kraken
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I’m still new so it’s a process lol

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Thought I had an insane build until I tried the capital building on legendary lol

true siren
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Real quick way to get your ego checked, yeah.

narrow kraken
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Also on a side note. Not sure if this happens a lot or I just had 2 bad people. But I was in a party of 4 doing the capital building on legendary and it was basically just me and this other dude doing eveything by our selves. The other 2 just hid behind cover like a mile away and would wait until we killed everyone and get the loot. There were times I died and spectated and I don’t think those 2 fired a single shot the whole mission. So I bounced

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Not only wouldn’t they fire a single shot but they wouldn’t even revive us 2 that were the only ones killing enemies

true siren
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i know a slow strat is to go with skills and stay alive, but maybe they were just mad

narrow kraken
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Yeah kinda turned me off from wanting to do it again. And I’ve seen it a few times in countdown too

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Dudes hang back wait until we killed everyone then collect the loot

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Wish their was a reputation level or something to flag those people

modern sparrow
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Is there's any other gears than gloves, knees that have special atrribute?

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I mean gloves have damage to armor and knee have Dtooc does other gear have samething?

oak talon
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most of the nameds in the mask, glove, knee and holster slot work with a a special stat, none of the other ones are as usefull as those two though, for the full list you can have a look under named gear in the spreadsheet in the pinned comments in #td2-build-advice

narrow kraken
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what's skill haste do?

true siren
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makes skills regen faster after use

fair bone
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Also, are proficiency upgrades bound to the item? Say, you have two copies of the same named bag and you upgrade one, the other remains at lvl 0 right ?

narrow kraken
warped owl
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Hello can someone tell me if you can get offense core attribute in the heartbreaker set gear? So far ive only seen blue core attribute. Ive seen some youtubers with red core attribute, but i cant seem to get one

warped owl
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when i try to use the recalibration station, it says no replacements found

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ah i need to extract it first

oak talon
oak talon
narrow kraken
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can you only recalibrate something once?

true siren
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Technically infinite but only one slot

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once you recalibrate that slot only that can be changed

fair bone
narrow kraken
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time to go find a cookbook with yellow

narrow kraken
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are daily missions worth it?

wispy plinth
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I have a Scorpio with Expertise at level 10. I want to reroll the stats to try and get a better roll. If I reroll the stats, will I lose the expertise?

narrow kraken
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Only one way to find out petter

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Never thought about that actually

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Knowing this game, it will probably erase the expertise upgrade

supple swift
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You do

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Because reconfigure counts as a deconstruct

wispy plinth
nocturne knot
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Just get a new one manhunt

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@wispy plinth

wispy plinth
slate crane
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are the missions on legendary always scaled to 4 players?

supple swift
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No. Iirc

dusk vortex
carmine crest
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Is all content in this game soloable outside of raids?

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Without yaknow it being a massive ballache, like will it scale down to one person

dusk vortex
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If you put your mental fortitude and have the right build yes

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Leg missions are mentioned previously

slate crane
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it was basically impossible to duo the legendary stronghold

dusk vortex
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I know 2 that could solo legendaries in my clan

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And my clan leader were able to solo countdown

carmine crest
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Any advice on sets I should chase for solo? Using a blue Heartbreaker atm

dusk vortex
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Scoped rifle with shield is the closest concept I can think of on the top of my head

split oyster
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@dusk vortex what has he for a build that he can doing legendary and Countdown solo?

dusk vortex
oak talon
split oyster
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ok what have he for a build for countdown solo?

dusk vortex
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Tbh what's important is you have to know their behaviours and all

oak talon
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and they arent hard to solo, they are hard to learn to solo, but once you understand how and what spawns when, they arent harder than heroics after a while

dusk vortex
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Wait I can share the link here right lol

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There

split oyster
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nice this build and that he can doing this solo

dusk vortex
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Just be mindful about the enemies too

warped hollow
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Yo Is it possible for someone to drop me some good gear that they don’t need?

fallow inlet
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Hey Aspect, Sanitizer, Rendy0

fair bone
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"2 weekly challenge rewards available" (top left notification), where do I claim those ?

pearl pine
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where or how do I get waveform?

fair bone
# narrow kraken are daily missions worth it?

Ehhh idk, I sometimes do them (just matchmake with randos) if they're not a mission I dislike. Mostly when I don't have anything specific to do or any content I want to tackle in particular

azure turtle
azure turtle
pearl pine
azure turtle
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Targeted Loot

pearl pine
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okay thx

fair bone
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I get the feeling people don't like directives. I usually matchmake for heroic with a few directives on , randos will join and immediately leave a few times until I get to build a team

nimble spruce
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ammo and skill directives will definitely put people off as they make various builds unplayable

orchid wharf
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where do i get the eclipse protocol armor from

nimble spruce
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anywhere, but you'll get the most in areas where EP is the target loot

orchid wharf
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if it aint the targeted loot i gotta wait till it resets?

nimble spruce
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You can set your own choice of target loot in countdown and summit, and change it whenever you want, if it isn't already somewhere else you want to farm

nimble spruce
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I don't understand the question

azure turtle
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does Blind work for Anarchist Cookbook?

nimble spruce
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should do, it's a status effect

orchid wharf
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does it matter what difficulty i get something on the stats will be the same?

azure turtle
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thought I'd check, it seems like a cheesy status to apply to get a big buff

orchid wharf
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like if i got a set piece on normal vs legendary it wont have higher stats? i just gotta upgrade it right

azure turtle
nimble spruce
unique ivy
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If I never crafted the chatterbox but someone dropped me a chatterbox on a mission, has that unlocked the chatterbox into my general loot pool?

orchid wharf
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gotcha okay ty

unique ivy
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Or do I need to go farm the pieces

azure turtle
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if youre level 40 it has a set maximum roll, anything below 40 and you get a lower maximum. level 30 has like 5% weapon damage compared to the 15% max for level 40 and above

nimble spruce
unique ivy
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Ah got it. Thanks!

pearl pine
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You have probably noticed that the Spec Revamp is not included in either of the remaining Year 4 Seasons. We are still working on the feature and only plan to announce the release date when we are absolutely satisfied with the quality. what does that mean??

azure turtle
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Specialist revamps? probably re working how specialist weapons or how the tree is. Maybe both

nimble spruce
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it means we won't get a spec revamp this year

orchid wharf
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got my 4 pc eclipse protocol pretty easy

pearl pine
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ohh okay nice

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thxx

nimble spruce
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they were planning it for the current season originally, there was an intelligence annex post about it last november or so

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but obviously they're struggling to balance it

pearl pine
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oh damn

whole aspen
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anyone have a LMG marksman rifle build?

oak talon
whole aspen
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MMR build with a LMG to take care of CQC would be cool

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if there's a better gun to use with the MMR I'm down for changing to that too :o

shy nacelle
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is there a good way to get mods like 12% critical hit damage, i play the game a bit but I never get maxed out mods

oak talon
whole aspen
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ok thanks :)

oak talon
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it will still be a rng, i know people that had 3 chd mods by shd 400, and i know people at 1k that still dont have 3 12% chd mods

shy nacelle
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thank you

south bloom
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what’s the easiest way to find the snitch can’t find him in my usual spot where find him

azure turtle
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anyone still having the constant PC crashes? I though we got a patch for the issue but apparently not

azure turtle
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wrong ping but 👍🏼

south bloom
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whoops wrong person sorry

modern sparrow
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Can anybody give me the link how to complete 30 floor in summit quickly for exotic cache

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I searched in youtube but didnt find

azure turtle
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like floor 10 farming?

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you can do floor 10 with the right build pretty fast

modern sparrow
drowsy gulch
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what gear disassembles into electronics?

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trying to find the best way to get electronics

orchid wharf
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do gear sets normally come with 1 minor stat? or 2

oak talon
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gear set pieces come with 1 core and 1 minor(where normal gear has 2 minors), thats to balance against the 2-3-4piece talents they get

orchid wharf
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gotcha ok

whole aspen
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will a exotic armor piece always come with the same attributes?

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:/ oof

orchid wharf
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where does vile mask drop

oak talon
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targeted loot masks, countdown is likely the fastest farm for it,

copper kite
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farming lvl 10 summit - will I have to re-run floor 1-9 once I end my farm session and eventually go back to it at a later time?

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ty

fair bone
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Is the summit in legendary unpopular ? I've been having issue to matchmake

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Also, it always feels kinda bad to deconstruct God rolls of stuff I don't want

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Errrrr it only lets me replay the Manning zoo in story difficulty (!)

oak talon
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matchmaking for it can be hit or miss, depends on if you are doing it at decent time for your timezone, and with GE weeks it can be even harder as it splits the playerbase

oak talon
nimble spruce
azure turtle
fair bone
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It's kinda glitched maybe

nimble spruce
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I've heard others reporting the same thing (stuck on story mode however many times they do it) but haven't heard of a fix.

fair bone
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Oh ffff

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Well I just redid it and I can pick other difficulties now

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But I could swear I remember fighting this boss

supple swift
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you might have done it the first time on someone else's session on a higher difficulty

oak talon
# fair bone But I remember doing this mission at least once

you can matchmake or join others on it, also for manning the invaded version and on the league week does not have this requirement, the requirement is to do it on story in your/a valid session once, i have never heard someone having issues with it other than that they have done it on a difficulty/invaded and assumed they should have unlocked it.

fair bone
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@oak talon @supple swift that must be it then, in any case I redid it, Manning is a real PITA

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Btw we just fought rogue agents in the summit, I was playing as medic and it was surprisingly fun

pliant wharf
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'rogue agent detected'
<switches secondary to scorpio>

supple swift
summer barn
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Cleared floor 99 solo for first time O_O Lets see whats on the next

narrow kraken
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uh oh

fair bone
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How many items do I need to level up to proficient to increase an expertise rank?

narrow kraken
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20 until level 15, then it's 14

fair bone
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In this case from 3 to 4

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Ok, is there a cap in the expertiserank?

narrow kraken
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20 is the cap, it goes a little further than that though at all items proficient

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like 20 and 3/14 I think

fair bone
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Oh okay but you get there only by exhausting all the items ? That's pretty crazy

narrow kraken
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yep haha, printer filament will be ur best friend

fair bone
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I'm far from there fortunately, im expertise rank 3 And I play with the same handful builds so I don't anticipate ranking up too much

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How many shd levels to get proficient on a item ?

narrow kraken
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300 if you just spend the points on printer filament. I think it's like 250 if you get 10k e-credits instead, buy 2 mods, and deconstruct them for printer filament

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you can get pretty far just by donating items tbh

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like put weapon types targeted in countdown and just mass donate

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I got to 10 like that really easily

fair bone
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No, I mean, if I have a lvl 0 weapon, how many shd do I have to have it equipped until I get proficient with ir ?

narrow kraken
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like SHD as in XP? not sure exactly, the XP from leveling and proficiency XP are different

fair bone
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Oh ok

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Yeah I was wondering how much time it takes to be proficient on a piece

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I don't vary my equipment much anyway so .

summer barn
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I cannot say I expected to find what was on the roof of floor 100....

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Why is it up there? xD

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Fair point. I was referring to the...item on the balcony at the end xD

fair bone
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Item on the balcony?

molten jetty
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the giant crashed satellite, that somehow didn't level the whole building

narrow matrix
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The proficiency only counts enemies you kill (3400 xp) or enemies your teammates kill (2400 xp)

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Donating guns / gear counts (44,000) xp so 2 guns donated gives you 1 proficiency level

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It’s easy at the start, because you find everything but then it gets tedious cause some stuff you have to use against your will

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Try using the railsplitter at long range 😭

waxen cobalt
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Anyone knows why I can't use the lion eyes on the statue?

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I collected them but the prompt doesn't appear

supple swift
waxen cobalt
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yeah

supple swift
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i vaguely recall doing a fast travel bugs it out.
i could be wrong though

waxen cobalt
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I mean it has been for all the hunters none of them have ever spawned for me

true siren
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Cant fast travel for the lion eyes hunter, gotta walk. And theres a lot you can be doing wrong for the other hunters, gotta follow the instructions to a T

whole aspen
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whats the best healing skill?

inner tendon
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Honestly? Using cover.
Avoiding damage is better than any self heal in div2.

narrow matrix
karmic harbor
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I think heals are really weak in div 2 without skill tiers
I THINK

narrow matrix
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It’s passive and not a lot of room for error

karmic harbor
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I only heal at 6 tiers and never below

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and yeah I think the hive is good

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the only scenario where it isn't good is probably control room in iron horse because it heals you even if you have -5 hp

whole aspen
narrow matrix
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The chem launcher prevents you from using your weapon imo because the delay between when you swap to it and when it actually is swapped is so inconsistent and long that your teammate might be dead by the time you get the heal out

inner tendon
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The drone is great if you're using an All Red, since it's passive

narrow matrix
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On controller it’s annoying to use as well because you have to hold L1 / LB to use the chem launcher and aim it

whole aspen
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oh yeah true

karmic harbor
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oh jeez

narrow matrix
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I personally would put on 2 piece belstone + gunner if you’re running all red (swap cores on belstone to red)

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If you’re using a rifle you could just do with the 1 piece

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Save your skill slot for something else

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You want more time to kill… decoy / blinder firefly

whole aspen
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Im almost all red :o I gotta get a better backpack and a mask with max headshot damage I'm running a headhunter sniper shotgun build :o

narrow matrix
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Punch drunk mask

sacred sigil
narrow matrix
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I played countdown for all my runs at proficiency

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Then got bored so I’m not sure

sacred sigil
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ye, a good CD run gives me about half a prof level for a given AR.

narrow matrix
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Grinding countdown endlessly is not as fun as people make it out to be. What I can say is it’s better to play with other people

sacred sigil
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sometimes maybe more? dunno. but less that a level certaily.

narrow matrix
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Donating is better unless you really can’t find that item such as DZ or named / exotic

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Then you use it

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It’s a waste of time trying to use it imo… it affects your build

sacred sigil
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that's exactly the problem: finding a use for those weird pieces.

narrow matrix
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For example I used mechanical animal and it was okay… held up fine… the railsplitter tho made me dread playing

inner tendon
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I kinda enjoy using random well rolled guns that are "off meta" in Countdown.
Way more interesting than using my c7 for the 799th hour.

narrow matrix
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The talent is so useless

whole aspen
sacred sigil
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but it's just CTAR at base, shouldn't be that bad?

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like yeah, you got no talent on a gun, but who cares, they don't do much anyway.

narrow matrix
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Like it’s a godsend to those people who only run Police M4 all day

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But someone who goes from AR —> lmg —> other AR is so chaotic 🤣

narrow matrix
inner tendon
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I haven't found that at all. I just go back to the BoO every few Countdowns and library > expertise > junk everything with a ! and not worth keeping for a future build.

narrow matrix
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I kind of hoard stuff so I don’t have space 😭

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New character same problem

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Back at 147/150 every time

inner tendon
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It becomes second nature after a while.
I guarantee a lot of what you're hoarding is junk

narrow matrix
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It is

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I just am like I’ll use this one day

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If the item is rare by my find I like to hold onto it

inner tendon
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My rule of thumb is: can it not be made perfect with 1 recal and almost no optimisation? It goes into the furnace.

narrow matrix
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Like some guy was looking at my build and was like “yooo you have a godrolled p416”… next thing you know I started collecting those thinking they were rare 😂

narrow matrix
inner tendon
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I go for 80% and up
Countdown means I can be picky

narrow matrix
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I notice after like 3 runs tho stuff starts to stop dropping

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It starts giving random loot

inner tendon
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Potential bug, an update should fix thst

night sun
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So what's the difference between the SBR 9mm and tactical Vector?

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Also, which Vector is the best?

oak talon
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they have different base magsize and base dmg, the tac vector has more basedmg but a tiny magsize

fair bone
fair bone
sacred sigil
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gentlemen, about 'naked' talent for mmrs. does it work non-stop on chungas?

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like, is their ablative helmet considered not armour?

paper pier
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There is also 9mm compact - it has even bigger DPS, but pertty low mag pool

karmic harbor
paper pier
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Since when Car7 is meta?

steady terrace
paper pier
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If took raw math and forget about weapon perk, then Famas is frkn top DPS AR.
Then you would like to have f2000 and TKB, honey badger
Worst ARs would be MK-16 and ACR, dunno why devs ain't fixing their ROF or DPB...

steady terrace
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Maybe some people like sound of slow ROF 😩

paper pier
dusk vortex
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carbine is a really good middle-ground lol

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it's basically P416 but with more accuracy

karmic harbor
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imo they really need to rebalance weapons and weapon mods

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there is literally no point in the PRO stability sight that gives you 5% stability when there's a sight that gives 5% weapon handling

somber mirage
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do i need to keep my loadout items on me or can i just keep them in the stash?

dusk vortex
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the ones you use more yes

sacred sigil
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the difference between AR models is rather small anyway. like if you hit 5% better accuracy with some model, that overtakes any numerical disadvantages it might have on paper.

paper pier
paper pier
night sun
sacred sigil
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now, sure, there might be outliers that should be rebalanced. i've never used ACR, didn't have decent drops, so dunno personally.

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but the bulk of the lineup should be more or less interchangeable.

jaunty dust
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tact 9mm has the highest burst dps

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but make sure you have enough reds to kill heroic elite in 1 mag

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then again if you are going by 1magsize kill, tact 9mm is one of the worst

gleaming warren
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Does Ridgeway's Pride pieces follow the 1/3/5/7 drop, or does it drop automatically for summit boss kills for the first time?

jaunty dust
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random drop i believe from various floors

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specific pieces only drop from specific floors

fallow inlet
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Hey Rendy0, Heart,

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Hey Rivens

tulip fiber
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They drop randomly, but they drop from the summit boxes, every 20 floors. 1-20, 21-40, etc.

jaunty dust
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"Acquiring Ridgeway's Pride is going to require time spent clearing the new PvE mode, The Summit. And by clearing it I mean clearing all of it. Before you can even begin to piece together the exotic, you have to collect five pieces from The Summit which have a chance to drop from the large loot caches that appear between floors.

"Vest: Normal Body Armor" on floor 1-10
"Vest: Hard Shoulder Pads" on floor 11-20
"Vest: Challenging Hunting Knife" on floor 21-50
"Vest: Heroic Flag Patch" on floor 51-80
"Vest: Legendary Dog Tags" on floor 81-100"
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once you got your first ridgeway, you should be able to unlock ridgeway from general lootpool

nimble spruce
jaunty dust
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i see

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dun remember, i just play alot of summit

nimble spruce
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note the 'difficulty' bits of the piece names? They map to the original summit layout, where you couldn't change difficulty but it was fixed dependent on what floor you were on (with random directives thrown in at higher levels)

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but the part names have been changed now, if you look for the ridgeways blueprint in your crafting table you'll see they're now called something like '0120 Body Armor, 2140 Shoulder Pads', etc

jaunty dust
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icic

narrow kraken
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why is there no snow in the division 2 while its in the division 1?

narrow matrix
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In New York?

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There was snow during the winter I believe

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Around Christmas

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Aside from that Washington D.C is what I would say is humid

loud saddle
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I mean, div2 is 7 mos after div1 IIRC

ivory bough
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looking Google sheet latest

true siren
summer barn
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I'm actually making a habit of soloing lol for control points. I feel excited during it. Is that wrong? Is it meant to be group content?

silk scroll
fair bone
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I have a dozen of faction keys but never bothered to hunt for faction lockboxes. Is there anything worth hunting for?

fair bone
oak talon
# fair bone I have a dozen of faction keys but never bothered to hunt for faction lockboxes....

if you dont have a chatterbox exotic smg yet, that comes from a quest that you need hyena keys for,
otherwise they are best saved for inside heroic missions, as the open world one will not scale, but ones inside mission will to the difficulty,
and if you are swimming in keys, its worth it to just go openworld and hope for the 100x resource drops all key boxes can give, that can be worthwhile,

whole parcel
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hey guys what do i need to do in order to get the regulus exotic pistol ?

true siren
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Iron horse, then a small string of projects, then the raid again

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Projects need raid materials, so expect it to take 3 weeks or so

fair bone
lavish stag
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What would be the "easiest" mission to farm legendary for bighorn?

acoustic lark
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Since when does loot disappear after 20/30 min in summit? Happened to everyone in my group today. Also when other people joined.

urban bay
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is it still impossible to get the 7th Uknown Echo?

oak talon
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it gives you that echo now as a reward for mission completion of the manhunt camp white oak, so its gettable now

urban bay
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if I can play long enough to finish the mission before the damn game crashes :P

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I'll be fine, now that I know I can get the thing, I'm not particularly worried

opal flare
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will you get anything other than an achievement if you beat the game on hardcore?

oak talon
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no, its a cap for reaching lvl 2, and a bunch of commendations and arm patches, and you get a indicator that you have done it on hardcore on the raid leaderboard if you complete the hardcore raid

opal flare
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Did i make the right call to not buy WONY Ultimate? I got the regular wony edition. Didn't felt like the extra cosmetics were worth it. And those extra 8 missions.

oak talon
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yeah, the ultimate add ons arent really worth it, youre not losing out on anything essential

opal flare
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Okay thanks for the heads up.

fair bone
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What's with all the explosions in legendary ? I'm in cover and boom a grenade wipes me

unique ivy
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So I farmed the Liberty pistol, and got all the components, and then did countdown for the D50 base pistol, but got a liberty drop. Now it won’t let me craft the liberty even though I never crafted one. Am I out of luck and just have useless components for it that I can’t craft?

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That worked - thank you!

karmic harbor
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does the extra skill tier from technician apply to the capacitors talent when you have 6 skill tiers?

oak talon
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behind the scenes it caps at 6 yellow cores, there is no going over 6
when it does increase it, it does apply to capacitor

karmic harbor
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sorry what

oak talon
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if you have 5 yellow cores on gear and add 1 with tech, it will count as 6 for capacitor,
if you have 6 on gear and add 1 with tech, its still 6 for capacitor, it caps at 6

dense cargo
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How many exotic gear pieces are there for each slot besides guns?

rustic nest
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is the military m870 best high end shotgun?

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okay tyvm

sudden lark
#

Are there any builds I should build for raiding? I'm thinking about working towards being able to do dark hour

narrow matrix
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You could go as low as 50 CHC as someone will guaranteed be running a coyote mask

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Need at least 130 chd … it’s actually kinda low but you can make do with it. Shoot for 160 chd

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Otherwise you can go hunters fury all red with 1 armor core or so

karmic harbor
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thanks

sudden lark
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@narrow matrix thanks 😄 my current full red build doesn't have 130 chd but it has chc 60 and chd 115 is that fine for now? or should I go for more chd?

silk scroll
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how does catharsis perk work?
it says 5% of max armor regen for 10 secs.

does it work like 5% total armor regen per second for the whole 10 secs which is = 50% total armor regen?
or just flat out in 10 secs, you only regen 5% total armor? (which is garbage)?

narrow matrix
sacred sigil
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gentlemen, what skills in your opinion are the most noticeably improved by the expertise upgrades?

oak talon
oak talon
sacred sigil
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so, arguably, the ones that are used in non-skill builds would benefit most, counter-intuitively.

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like shield on a dps, for instance.

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or riot foam.

oak talon
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yes, you will get better returns per lvl on stuff that you use at low/no skill tiers

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but it also depends on what it upgrades, as for shields its mostly active regen, and thats not going to make any noticable diference i would say

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but the cc ones you use on red builds seem a decent place to spend lvls,
same with dmg skills if you run skill builds with any frequency, but there its a tiny upgrade, but still an upgrade

nimble spruce
sacred sigil
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yeah, but with the weapons i've found an excellent ballpark comparison: expertise 15 equals to an extra red core.

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no looking up bonus tables, whatnot. really straightforward.

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with skills, however, there's some thinking to be had.

rugged jetty
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is armor pack got nerfed?

karmic harbor
rugged jetty
modern snow
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Hey, i just redownloaded the game and i don't know if i should create another agent or try to play my old one (like 2 years old) but i don't remember how the game works

oak talon
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kinda depends on your current character,
if its already lvl 40, maybe start a new one and just do wony, so thats only the expansion as that will refamiliarize you plenty with the game mechanics
if its a lvl 30 at wt5 endgame then you can just take that one into wony, if below 30 then give it a spin and see howmuch you remember, if you feel totally lost, start a new char to get the tutorials again

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also for allot of stuff you can look under progression -> tutorials, or ask here

modern snow
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@oak talon You look like you know a lot about the game, do i care to build something that make sense before lvl40 ?

loud saddle
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you're gonna burn through it pretty quickly honestly

oak talon
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what kirra said, builds wont matter till you reach an endgame you plan to stick around at, either 30 wt5 or 40 with shd watch, preferably 40 as thats where the majority of the playerbase and content is

narrow matrix
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Make sure to buy all the blueprints you have available that you think you’re going to need before going to NY… guns without stability mods aren’t fun 😭

candid terrace
#

Me and my friends have ran into a bug on PS4 where we can't join each other because our groups are private. And when we do it asks us to buy PS+.

I can't matchmake at all actually. It keeps bringing me to the PS Store

modern sparrow
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is Chameleon good for PVE striker build or i should play with another weapon?

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i've also that LMG that drain enemy armor & hp IDK its name is it better than chameleon?

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wait i think should ask in build advice

pliant edge
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What's the most efficient way to farm expertise levels?

winter patio
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@pliant edge create alts and use their resources to buy the expertise levels. The higher your shd over 1000 the better.

narrow matrix
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Otherwise it’s shreds ammo not enemies

winter patio
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@pliant edge Sell shd points to buy gold. Use gold to buy mods. Scrap mods for 6 filaments each. Use filaments to donate to increase your proficiency.
Don't waste on weapons. or gear sets as they are easy to level up. Use on specializations, skills etc. Also use on the items that do not drop in the game. You can max these even though you don't own them.
When your alt has no points left, delete it, make another, run warlords again, but the shared points bp, and repeat. Takes 2-3 hours in warlords to get 30-40, less if grouped or know shortcuts.
There's probably a bit more to this, but hope this gets you started.

dense cargo
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Where can I get some quick Riker data?

oak talon
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riker bounties final boss will drop some, also missions bosses drop them too but they are after long missions for rikers

dense cargo
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Also I got a new exotic and the blueprint doesn't show to buy it do I have to wait or?

oak talon
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yes, rikers are only in NY, so you will have to go to them
to get bounties you can do public execution open world activities, each one you complete while saving both hostages, will give every person in the group a bounty drop.

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so its better in groups if you can, as you get 4 bounties from 1 public execution

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and the bounty difficulty determines how many tactical assessments you get for the bounty final boss, its 1 for normal,2 hard,3 challenging and 4 heroics

oak talon
dense cargo
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Alr thanks

woven gulch
#

If I haven't played in almost 3 years, is it worth it to just pick up with one of the toons I already have (both were very geared in current content back then) or start a new agent?

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Logged in briefly, looks like a LOT has changed

narrow matrix
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You have 2 options really - save time and get right into the endgame content which will be overwhelming tryna learn everything at once or you can relearn the story, relearn the skills and such, guns you like, missions you like while being slowly introduced to certain things such as recalibration in the base game, optimization later on

fallow inlet
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are pre or post wony?

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@woven gulch

woven gulch
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Pre

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I did the second raid the second week it was out and stopped shortly after

fallow inlet
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well id run both toons to 40 then use the 3rd as a point mule for the other 2

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by using the boost

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dont worry about builds till after you get your watch

elder jewel
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Hi Quick question for "Expertise Rang"
Is there any Spreadsheet like "You Need 25 Same guns to get Expertise lvl 20" or "You Need 25 Red kills for one Level" anyone got anything like that?

fair bone
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No that I know, I was told here that you need to get proficient in 20 items to increase an expertise lvl until Lvl 14, then it's 15 items per level, and you can reach a max of lvl 20 1/4

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Harmony is the only with perfectly in sync right ?

elder jewel
fair bone
elder jewel
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Yeah thats easy to figure out but Not the answer im looking for 🤣

fair bone
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You reach proficiency killing enemies (you or your team, your kills are worth more) while having the iten equipped, or when you dobate 2 copies of the same item

fair bone
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Check that out

elder jewel
fair bone
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Just a humble servant

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Maybe somebody can collapse the basics of expertise in a message and pin it

sacred sigil
novel mist
#

is anyone else having issues with only getting 50 rounds of AR ammo

feral wren
#

Sounds like you have a directive on

novel mist
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no

feral wren
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Pistolero maybe?

novel mist
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nothing is on

supple swift
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it happens. usually after coming from summit. you have to log out and log back in

novel mist
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i didnt do summit either i got back on and changed builds and went to the ammo restock and it only gave me 50 rounds for the AR and all the ammo i could carry for a rifle

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but logging out then back in worked

feral wren
#

Good to know I have not seen that bug yet.

novel mist
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yea first time for me after playing this game for almost 2300 hrs

supple swift
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this bug is why i ask people to reload at the range before joining summit 10Fs

feral wren
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That stops it from happening?

cinder orbit
#

Is it possible for a lady death to drop from general targeted loot?

supple swift
# feral wren That stops it from happening?

its just to make sure that they can see if they have ammo + reserves, with the range being the nearest place you can shoot and reload. because you wont get to know if you're bugged otherwise

feral wren
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Oh ok.

supple swift
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if they see they're bugged, they can log off right away and check again before joining summit sessions with pistolero on

tepid jackal
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Havent played in a hot minute. What should I be focusing on when it comes to the recalibration table?
Extract to the library or level proficiency?

narrow kraken
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library first

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you'll get proficiency as you play the game and then can sweat about the last part of it later

tepid jackal
somber mirage
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am i able to get over charge on my shield if i run all armor and run technician for the +1 skill?

oak talon
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no, overcharge isnt just 7 tiers, it needs to be initiated trough a talent, and its only for skill tiers, 6 blue cores and a overcharge capable talents wont initiate overcharge

somber mirage
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wack. lol

sudden lark
#

I don't understand how snitch works. How do I get access to his vendor loot?

gleaming warren
#

My general tip? Never bother finding Snitch unless Cassie rotation is good or it has what you need.

weary lantern
#

I bought warlords of New York a while back and before I reached lvl 30 I quit playing so I never played the dlc, logged on to go to dlc it says I’m not lvl 30 but I can get my character boosted, will I miss out on anything by doing this, I’m almost lvl 30 just not there yet

gritty nest
weary lantern
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I have a great score of 307 I could of swore I was lvl 30 before I stopped playing, where do I even see my level

gritty nest
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if you have gear score you already 30

inner tendon
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Gear Score is what you have during the World Tiers, it then vanishes once you start the WONY DLC and is replaced by Lvl 40.
Gearscore never returns.

weary lantern
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Oh ok thx

whole aspen
#

are burn builds viable in PvE?

cedar tide
#

Super viable. One of the most fun builds you'll ever play.

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At least it is for me div2relax

whole aspen
#

nice thanks :)

cedar tide
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Just make sure you don't wipe yourself with your own fire 😂

whole aspen
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lol yeah

fair bone
#

Can I get a clarification on the expertise thingie? What exactly do people need printer filaments for?

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Also do some skills friendly fire ? You can't shoot a friend with your weapon, but should I be careful with chem starter or explosions?

leaden stirrup
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Printer filaments can be donated to increase the proficiency of any item. Go to material donation in the expertise menu. 30 filaments get you 10% of a level, so it's 3000 to max out an item using purely filaments. Each mod deconstructed gives 6, so you can farm quite a lot

fair bone
sacred sigil
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no, you can donate either one sort of mats.

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it's just that base mats eat up more per step.

leaden stirrup
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Increasing the level of an item (after you are proficient with it) does. Levelling up an item to become proficient, lets you donate any material

foggy needle
#

it can also be free, if you use the item for the xp instead. (for leveling up its proficiency levels)

night sun
#

Think I've got a goal to create the most potent/useful SMGs, one for each frame, including the military/bm variants, might just need to work out an SMG tier list, and go from there

pliant wharf
#

i sort of have an impression that right now, SMGs exist to add crit to HF builds.. just by nature of effective ranges. i CAN hose a mob down from 25meters with one, sure, but i can do it better with an AR

foggy needle
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and to HB builds 😛

pliant wharf
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ya i guess playign HB up close the whole time.. which makes sense cuz shotty stacking woudl benefit from SMG too

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i just dont like the rollercoaster of HB

fair bone
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To become proficient with an item, any of the following:

  1. Equip the item and collect XP on player kills or team kills
  2. Donate two copies of an item in the Expertise tab of the recalibration table
  3. Donate any material (where?)

To increase the proficiency level of an item after youre proficient with it:

  1. Upgrade item in the recalibration table by spending three types of materials
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Is that right ?

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Is all this written somewhere ?

pliant wharf
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it confused me too.
to donate materials to become proficient you must navigate inside the experitise tab to the specific item or skill. if not proficient, you can then donate materials.. most use printer filiments.

you also get xp toward proficiency by killing

you can also donate same-type items directly, though im not sure abotu how many of each. it is not written or explained anywhere ofcially that i am aware of. i had to learn by asking here.

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my personal method is i go through pockets. i mark everythign i dont want to save or decon for library as junk. i goto expertise tab and 'donate all junk' as step 1. then i do library if any, then i decon from inventory to get materials from anythign that remains.

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say i want to get my rifles all proficient. ill just spam countdown with rifle TL and do above process.

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then the expertise level (the max number fo upgrade you can put on a given item) is controlled by how many individual things you are proficient with. this is the piece that i struggled to conenct.

loud saddle
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yes and no, expertise doesn't directly go with how many things you're proficient with, just total number of proficiency levels across gear

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like each level of expertise requires a set number of proficiency levels, but those proficiency levels can be spread across all the gear (none of them have to be proficient per say)

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so 200 individual items with 1 level of proficiency, or 20 items with 10 levels of proficiency (proficient)....expertise level sees it the same way in regards to earning a level or not

pliant wharf
#

so.. lol. i didnt understand that until you explained it.

loud saddle
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no worries, but you were still right. being proficient in an item matters a great deal cause it doesn't matte rif ur expertise level 5 and all these proficiency levels if no 1 item is proficient and u can't put those expertise levels to use by upgrading the items bonuses.

pliant wharf
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i still dont have a fully optimized build ( im close on 2 of em) so the only thing i even level expertise on is my m4. i struggle to see a point at which i would have resources im willing to spend on anything besides weapons i use tbh. armor isnt meanignful enough in the tiny doses, adn my skills are.. a shield and a reviver .. maybe a decoy.

still it is good to know how the systems work. too bad it is so unintuitive and the 3 panel 'tutorial' is so useless =).

this discord is a huge resource

night sun
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Guess it was too much to ask for items that you’re proficient at HAVE a passive improvement with looting since you’re better at utilising it, but I guess it’s another resource dump which means you have to be extra careful not to waste it on less than ideal rolls, cos the cost of said resources is expensive

coarse thistle
#

Guys, I am trying to complete the last Regulus project that asks me to get the 5 pieces from the raid. I already have 4 pieces, but for some reason the 1st boss didnt drop it. Are the pieces based on the Weekly Reset? Because I had already completed the first boss that week (only him, I didnt finish the raid)

oak talon
fallow inlet
#

Hey Sanitizer,AZ,

lavish stag
#

when hunting hunters, is it 24hr in game time or IRL time for cooldown

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and then do you need to do the whole "quest" again (Drip and Psycho)

loud saddle
#

you can just wait til next day (in game)

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and most will need the entire quest redone

winter canopy
#

Is it possible to take on four hunters solo if it is what would a good build be 🙂

oak talon
#

if you want to overdo it, you can make a pfe build, but more importantly, set it to normal and have foam chem to cc with, and jsut run a HF or red build or any effective dmg build

winter canopy
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Cheers for the reply I was going after all the secret hunter masks solo and wanted to see if it was possible but this sounds like it would be awesome thank you 🙂

narrow kraken
#

I think I already know the answer to this but going to ask anyway, the global settings don’t change the difficulty or the quality of gear you get from countdown?

oak talon
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no, countdown is currently its own set difficulty, nothing of the open world settings affect it

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one of the future planned additions is difficulties for countdown, but till then its just its own thing

summer barn
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Perhaps I'm misunderstanding but..I an't seem to level past level 2 expertise..and I'm using this for ALOT if not most of my time..

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Have I inadvertantly done something wrong to stop gaining exp on expertise? o.o;

odd condor
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It takes 200 proficiency levels to gain an expertise level

In other words, you must become proficient in 20 unique items to gain one level, each level

oak talon
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the items you are using have probably already gained all 10 proficiency level they can have, and are proficient, if that is the case, move on to other builds/weapons

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its 100 for lvl 1-5, 200 for lvl 6-15 and 140 for lvl 16-21, not a flat 200 for all lvls

summer barn
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So it's not FOCUS on ONE weapon it's focus on alll?

odd condor
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Pretty much

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Been cycling through guns I have godrolled copies of but never quite bothered using as a result

summer barn
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So I should just start using all sorts of different weapons..or does each version of a weapon count too? Like ..say if I had four pestilance lmg I should focus on them four times?

odd condor
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The former

summer barn
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I got here late to the party so i'm sorry I don't understand exactly the end game elemtents yet :<

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Ok. so..just go wild maxing to ten all my smg..or lmg I've been kinda..wanting to try but not an expert at..same for..gear? or is gear not a good idea?

oak talon
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also, put some focus on donating gear for proficiency, that is how you will gain the most early on

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especially running a countdown for a weapon type and donating the 99% that is unusable

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its 2 donations a proficiency level for nameds and weapons, so you gain them quickly

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20 donations for a proficient

summer barn
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Thank you kind helpful person :3

twin forum
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How important is that new expertise thingy? Is it rly rly needed or can i just play casually and ignore it?

oak talon
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its something to be aware of, the bonusses you will get from the watch are much larger, but you can be already donating some stuff to the proficiency gods

twin forum
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I usually just scrap/sell the trash gear and drop the potential good ones to low shd players

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Maybe i should check those donation stuff

pliant wharf
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it also helps to mark as trash any weapons and armor you arent going to keep or extract to library.... then goto expertise station and 'donate all junk'

this will donate items to gain proficiency xp on them

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and you can donate crafting materials to a specific item type to raise it's proficiency as well

twin forum
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Oh, those donations r there, didnt check that station in ages haha

whole aspen
twin forum
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Well ty both, from now on i might try donating stuff, unless i forget and just sell them lmao

pliant wharf
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so.. i need to farm true suns tactical assessments... and i need recon data... so i figured.. reset control points, and go hose down true sons. each CP has 2 named guys (heroic)... yet.. no tactical assessments seem to be found..

CP named dont drop them?

oak talon
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cps only give field recon, the nameds of cps dont drop tac assessments

pliant wharf
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...
cuz that would make for efficient farming. cant have that

oak talon
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its mostly mission and bounties as the better sources for em

pliant wharf
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ok. ty

oak talon
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for true sons you can farm lincoln, as it is quick, for factions that dont have a quick mission, bounties are faster

pliant wharf
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pro tip. ty

twin forum
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Ikia, more like wikia, dude seems super helpful, ty!

pliant wharf
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is this like.. 1 assessment per run? cuz.. i tmight be faster to farm sinkole and solar array

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for mats

oak talon
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its 1 for normal, 2 for hard, 3 chall and 4 heroic, for only the final named of the mission/bounty (so not every named)

pliant wharf
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so... speedrun on challenging probably most efficient

oak talon
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and yeah, if you have the blueprint, and you are decent SHD lvl, running wony for a alt is the actual faster way, but only is you are 1300 atleast i would say

pliant wharf
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im at 579

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but.. my buddy wants to run a new NY run together so.. ill do that too just cuz

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ty for infos.

oak talon
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an extra alt never hurts, they are quite usefull, especially now if only for the extra exotic from the weekly shd project alone.

pliant wharf
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yep

twin forum
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Donating them?

oak talon
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later lvls of putting expertise levels on stuff, requires a bunch of exo components, so they become the bottleneck for most

twin forum
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I think i got an alt with tons of exotics in their inventory just cuz i didnt need them and didnt want to trash xd i always drop those to Rest of the group tho since i never needed them

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So they made exotic components not being that useless, sounds fine

fair bone
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Are there other good skill damage skills besides turret and drone ?

oak talon
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explosive skills like mortar, explosive sticky and seekers are great on explosive builds,
fire chem and hive are the general go to for fire eclipses on heroics
oxi for its niches

fair bone
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@oak talon will check those out

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Thoughts on fire starter vs sticky burn?

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I tend to like fire starter better

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It seems to spread more, I like Max radius

fair bone
oak talon
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all of them work best on their own builds, but you can try them out on a normal turret drone build to get a feel for it,
explosives really benefit from having explosives dmg brand bonuses, eclipse is its own thing, and oxi benefits from yellow core fox and contractors

oak talon
# fair bone Thoughts on fire starter vs sticky burn?

i would consider myself almost a eclipse main, and i am firmly in the chem camp, the fire sticky is just to slow at 1 charge every 18 secs, having the 8 canisters is basically essential to me, to deal with all the waves,
but you do need to get good with it, its the harder to use skill

fair bone
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@oak talon that's cool, I didn't know you main EP!

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Is there any way to maximize the radius ? Besides EP talent that spreads it out

narrow kraken
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The burn is longer on sticky, and even longer with the airburst (but literally impossible to use this shit)

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You did ask about the burn specifically so

fair bone
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Also, do you shoot more than one canister to the same place to create a large cloud before starting the fire?

narrow kraken
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You'd only be stacking the initial damage from the gas igniting

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The fire itself would be applied once

fair bone
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Oh

oak talon
fair bone
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@oak talon also so you prefer status effect and skill haste or status effect and skill damage for your RP build?

fair bone
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And you can set the horde on fire

oak talon
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status effect on every piece, and haste on every mod and on the golan piece is my preference, i feel haste is usually the limiting factor so i wouldnt rather leave that out for skill dmg.

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and there are a lot of tricks you can learn while using EP, the most important one is that you can ignite the cloud by double tapping the button the chem is on

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another good one is that you can tap a red with scorpio and the poison effect of 1 shot will stagger them, letting you easily swap to chem and set them on fire

azure turtle
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if a friend gets WoNy, can I play with them and do their story missions when I have SHD levels?

whole aspen
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yeah

oak talon
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you can join on them and help them on their world, they cant join on you on your world till they reach 40 and get their watch

azure turtle
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Ok cool

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Thank you

sweet lava
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can u get iron work base materials from discovery

narrow kraken
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no

calm venture
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I got chameleon is that good weapon for pve?

tulip hollow
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should I grind to get the memento?

tulip hollow
narrow matrix
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Why does expertise at level 5 require field recon data

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To upgrade to level 6

storm river
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Does eb drop open world after you get it from dh?

tulip fiber
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No, raid only

somber mirage
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are there even vanities for skills aside from the deluxe ed stuff?

steady terrace
cedar tide
whole aspen
storm river
steady terrace
storm river
supple swift
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if you make EB available as a regular drop after doing the raid there's no point really to do raids anymore for others

steady terrace
storm river
# steady terrace Care to explain?

Whats the reason to run X mission? Because its fun. You don’t need exclusive items locked to X activity to get people interested. People will play raids because they are fun, unique activities, and a bit more of a challenge for a veteran player

storm river
supple swift
steady terrace
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There is something exclusive in every mode
Missions - Lore and apparel
DZ - Named items exclusivity and pvp
Conflict - pvp
Countdown - loot (LZ named items)
Summit - loot and SHD levels
LZ and bounties - open world exploration
Raid- exotic

storm river
steady terrace
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So u gonna complain for both being and not being 100% locking ? 🤣 🤣

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Get your stuff straight bruh

storm river
steady terrace
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😐

raw harbor
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Might be a silly question, but does the reward track for Xander League refresh at the end of this week? If I want the full reward track, do I have to get 10/10 in everything, or can I wait until next week to do some challenges again to max it out?

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(and if I do have to max it out this week... is there a better way to farm Hyena Elites than going into high difficulty missions?)

robust yarrow
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Is there is method to get memento in fast way i tried countdown and no luck

raw harbor
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Wiki says "loot targeted exotic drops". Honestly, I think Countdown is your best bet; you can target farm backpack drops at the same time you get Countdown tokens to buy exotic caches with.

robust yarrow
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how about summit?

raw harbor
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Summit's still a targeted farm, so yeah, that might work. Only potential loss there is you might not get exotic caches as fast but I haven't run enough Summit to know the pacing of those with challenges and other things.

somber mirage
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before i jump into firewall, am i able to use regular guns with the shield?

raw harbor
somber mirage
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what are the specific numbers for the two shield mods from the firewal spec?

oak talon
oak talon
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and for hyena elites, the fastest is cp4's, preferably in a group, but if you do countdown allot you will also get it, but its less directed

inner tendon
# robust yarrow how about summit?

Summit is also good, because each Directive added on slightly increases your chance for a Targeted Loot drop to occur, something you can't do in Countdown.
so both are good.

raw harbor
robust yarrow
molten jetty
# robust yarrow Playing with other players increases chance?

with countdown's 4/4 divide and UI blocking, as well as the time constrain, the chance to share dropped stuff is low, while for summit you "could" tell the other 3 that perhaps , to all switch the targeted loot to X and if one gets it you can ask him to drop it, hence more player could means higher chance

raw harbor
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Can be better.

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if you optimize it right/manage to diplomacy with a squad properly

sudden lark
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what's a good team comp for summit floor 10 farming? Me and my buddies are trying to work towards learning how to farm it

cedar tide
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If a 4-person squad target loots the same thing in Summit, that's 4x as much chance when it comes to sharing loot that you need from others. Nice farming tool, imo, if you can find the folks to help

molten jetty
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"can“ yes, though tbh most people are trying to get the big horn in floor 10 legendary with targeted AR

molten jetty
sudden lark
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hmmm ima delegate with my buddies thanks! 😄

oak talon
narrow kraken
raw harbor
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You can't, but you can target the slot that the exotic goes in

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I assume that's what the wiki means.

narrow kraken
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Yeah that’s what I thought

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Got 100 hours into the game now and only had 2 exotics drop

raw harbor
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that's why you gun for exotic caches

robust yarrow
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I GOT MEMENTO

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FINALLY

river basalt
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memento was my first ever exotic drop x) dont even need it

narrow kraken
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Would be cool if specific exotics had mission chains more like Destiny

raw harbor
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I mean, some of them sorta do

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Liberty does

narrow kraken
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The only one I’ve seen is the Legendary capital building and it’s an exotic catch

raw harbor
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But I agree. On the whole, I'd prefer my cool notable weapons to be a result of an achievement or process I've mastered rather than a random drop I farmed for

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(regardless of game)

narrow kraken
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Yeah

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Plus the cost to optimize any weapon let alone an exotic is insane

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That’s the most painful part of the game for me

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Do 40 hours of grinding to make a stat go up a few % and it’s not even max

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Instead of doing that I’ve been farming in countdown but none of that loot is ever at max for me

steady terrace
narrow kraken
steady terrace
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Oof

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Spam floor 10

raw harbor
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is there some hilariously fast way of grinding out SHD levels that I'm not familiar with or have people just been playing this game for so long that SHD level 5000+ is normal

narrow kraken
steady terrace
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Up grindset

steady terrace
narrow kraken
twin forum
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Farming specific for levels sounds annoying and boring, i just play whatever i like and im 900ish

steady terrace
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Yes thats why try to use during global event or apparel event

narrow kraken
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The new 10th floor farming method got this dude 500 levels in 2 days

raw harbor
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I just want to max out my specs because I'm tired of having to use specs I don't like simply because a part of my brain is telling me I have to because it's Wasting Points

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You Could Have More Points. You Gotta.

narrow kraken
twin forum
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Well i kinda wanted to get 1k before but after 30min of lvl farming i got bored

karmic harbor
narrow kraken
twin forum
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So i decided i will play what i enjoy most and level will come by itself, slower but enjoyable

twin forum
twin forum
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Helped me a lot that early lmao

raw harbor
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it's more important that you enjoy the game than that you have Big Number

steady terrace
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True

karmic harbor
raw harbor
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I've grinded 5 classes to levelcap in FF14 so I'm pretty sure I can do this for at least two hours

twin forum
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U get capa from doing summit missions

narrow kraken
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I haven’t really scratched the service on the end game activities. Farmed for specific gear/weapons. Finally got them with the the attributes I want and now have been farming countdown for the same gear pieces but at max attributes. Instead of grinding 50 hours to optimize and only have it go up 1%

karmic harbor
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then it becomes a target loot drop like ridgeways

twin forum
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Is it? Wut

karmic harbor
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you probably just don't get it since rng

raw harbor
karmic harbor
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that was the first one in ages that I got

twin forum
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Oh ye, i rmbr getting tons of them after my 1st one

narrow kraken
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I swear Hunters Fury sets don’t come with armor as a core attribute. I’ve gotten like 200 pieces now and it’s always weapon damage

raw harbor
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i.e. you have a gun you want a different talent on, but you also wanna max the damage on

twin forum
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Its been almost an year since i played so i dont rmbr that well haha

raw harbor
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manufacturers and sets always have the same core bonus, it doesn't vary

karmic harbor
twin forum
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Every brand/set comes with specific core

raw harbor
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how does one get System Corruption gear? I've gotten two from random drops but I have no idea where to get more.

narrow kraken
twin forum
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U need to find hunterd fury with good second atribute so u can swap the main for armour

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Thats how i got yellow true patriot with skill damage 😂

karmic harbor
narrow kraken
twin forum
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Finding them with the right secondary is hard, but for the green sets its easier since u got only 1 secondary

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Get a stat as close as possible to max

raw harbor
twin forum
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Those 0.5% wont change your life, will just look shiny

narrow kraken
karmic harbor
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honestly i think system corruption should be easier to get, fix dz loot or add another way to get it

raw harbor
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and given how minor some of the stat variations are, I don't concern myself with it. 5% more crit damage isn't gonna make a huge difference.

twin forum
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And u can always buff those stats when i got extra mats for that

karmic harbor
twin forum
narrow kraken
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Nah I think I’m thinking of my chest piece that is sokolovs

karmic harbor
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probably

twin forum
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Possible

raw harbor
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mods are also worth remembering, if you really need 10% skill haste or 5% crit chance or whatever, you can mod some stuff and make up for it that way, which is much easier than grinding out for calibration

narrow kraken
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I have all the gear and minor attributes I want. Just the optimizing them is just insane.

raw harbor
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I think calibration is intended to be an endgame resource sink for people who have nothing else to spend them on

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just to give you something to do with the mountains of stuff you'll end up amassing by doing activities once your libraries are full and you've already got all the setups you want

narrow kraken
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I just want them to make optimization/expertese leveling cost less

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Or at a minimum if you get all the required materials that the optimization takes it to max level instead of 1%. Like I have crit damage maxed in my recal library at 21%. The gun with all the minors I wanted only has it at like 10% out of 21%. They want like 1000 smg receiver components and 20 hyena assements just to take it from 10% to 11.5%. I’m not grinding all that another 10 times to just max out that stat. It’s a joke

raw harbor
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You're right. At your current level, it's not worth it. So don't do it.

narrow kraken
raw harbor
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have you already crafted the gear that you have? or is your library just not that filled out yet?

narrow kraken
raw harbor
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if you focus farm a specific slot in Countdown you should be able to fill out your library for that slot pretty quickly, and crafting set gear usually isn't that bad because all you have to do is find one with a secondary attribute you like, which... I guess could potentially take a while, but unless you want to change both the primary and the secondary, that's not a problem

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oh wait I meant calibrated

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swapped the stats on it or whatever.

narrow kraken
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The numbers I get from crafting anything are always less than the drops

raw harbor
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okay wait a minute, I think I may be missing something. What's your calibration library like? Do you have good stats recorded in there?

narrow kraken
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I’ve been stuck at 95% of max armor on gloves in my recal library for a while now. No matter what I select for targeted loot can’t get a piece that drops with max armor to finish maxing the core

raw harbor
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if you're at 95% of max armor, I wouldn't worry about pushing yourself to max it

narrow kraken
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Lol I’m ocd I want it at max

raw harbor
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then focus farm gloves ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I don't know if I've just had good RNG or what but I've gotten pretty much all my core attributes maxed for just about everything

narrow kraken
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That’s what I have been doing and all the drops with armor have been half what I already have. Need a maxed level to finish it off but just want drop lol

raw harbor
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and you've been doing countdown? weird. countdown is where I got most of my maxed stuff iirc.

narrow kraken
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Yeah been doing like 10 countdowns a day

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Even tried playing it on heroic to see if that changed the quality of loot

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75% of the time it’s max weapon damage which I already have and usually skill core or a super low armor core that does nothing for me lol

raw harbor
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that's..... really weird

dusk vortex
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If you want more though play legendary

narrow kraken
calm venture
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How nasty nemesis and ace fight set?

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I used set with ekimm long stick it pretty big damage

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Idk how to get nemesis

river basalt
fair bone
fair bone
fair bone
oak talon
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the scorpio is too great of a tool to not use as a eclipse, you have three statuses that you can deploy quickly either to be spread, or just to defend yourself, and on heavier stuff, you will be ccing them, and at 7 shots you will be giving your team the biggest group buff of the game.

narrow kraken
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is there a sherpa raid channel here

nimble spruce
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Not exactly Sherpa, but if you put together a half-way decent red crit build and make use of YouTube to check out some basic raid guides (so you have some idea of what you'll be doing) then you can join one of the #lfg-raid-pc groups, let them know you're new, and they'll probably be happy to walk you through it

narrow kraken
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@nimble spruce ty

patent vigil
raw harbor
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How long do raids typically take, anyways?

inner tendon
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With a good team? Pretty short, the current speed record for IH is something around 17 minutes. Most teams will take longer than that though.
With a bad/uncoordinated team? Over an hour, easy.

raw harbor
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Ah, got it. Shorter than Destiny raids, then.

inner tendon
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They're closer to a slightly slow Scourge of the Past than a Levi.

raw harbor
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I've run one SotP and no Leviathans so that doesn't give me much

solemn tapir
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Leviathan, when it first launched, was a slog. Had to do every bit of what was later broken down in to sections for simplicity. My group tried a Day One for Leviathan, and it took us nearly 3 1/2 hours. >.<

raw harbor
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the most recent raid I've run in Destiny was the new one, Vow of the Disciple, and it took me like four hours

solemn tapir
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The Raids for Div2 are substantially shorter than that, thankfully. Despite me having never ran them. looks at Eagle Bearer and sniffles

plucky hawk
raw harbor
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my usual expectation from difficult raids as of FF14 and Destiny is multiple hours

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20 minutes for a raid is unthinkable to me

ashen egret
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What do I do after I’ve reached lvl 40 and finished the campaigns

ashen egret
raw harbor
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Correct!

ashen egret
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Lol

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If u need help lmk

raw harbor
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post-campaign is the sort of "set your own goals" period

ashen egret
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Ok

raw harbor
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max out your specs if you haven't already

ashen egret
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How do I do that

raw harbor
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Equip a spec and level up with it/do challenges that give you spec points

ashen egret
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Tf is a spec

supple swift
ashen egret
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Oh like gunner

raw harbor
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yes

ashen egret
supple swift
fair bone
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Might give it a try one day

sudden lark
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how do I get everlasting gaze? Can I target loot it in summit/or countdown?

inner tendon
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DZ locked, so DZ/Conflict/NamedItemCache.

proven pewter
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I’ve been lv 30 for awhile don’t actually think I’ve completed the game as I still have some main missions but I just got warlords of New York what to do now? Just go about finishing the game or something else?

raw harbor
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Once you go to New York, you won't be able to leave until you finish the main story there (about 2-3 hours of gameplay if you hard focus the story and do nothing else) so make sure if there's anything you immediately want to do in DC that it's done before you go. After you finish with New York, you'll get tossed into the season pass system, start getting SHD and seasonal levels, and all that fun stuff.

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There's no world tier grind post-40- level 40 items are the cap and all that's left to worry about there is the main/sub stats on the items, which is nice

proven pewter
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Thank you @raw harbor

sacred sigil
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gentlemen, is there a sink for excessive optimization resources, aside from optimization itself?

steady terrace
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2-3k shd level is great place to start

simple magnet
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Um so I had redownloaded D2 a couple days ago and all my characters are locked, I don't know what to do I uninstalled didn't work, I tried buying it again it wouldn't let me, and I tried making a new character and I couldn't even get to New York, I'm Xbox series X btw, and I don't know what to do

rugged forge
modern sparrow
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from where i can get eagle bearer?

quiet fossil
nimble spruce