ask-td2-community

[odd condor]

it has its uses by padding crit chance while your build is still unoptimized, but yes, its various tradeoffs mean that it is really best as an interim option while you get a better build

[sudden matrix]

Cham is really good if you ignore all the time you don't have 2 of the buffs up.

[lofty cypress]

i was using bullet king and the grudge before

i just wanna find the stupid elmo

[sudden matrix]

Elmo is alright, in fact tons of weapons are around that same spot in terms of burst DPS.

[inner tendon]

It's worth noting that exotics in div2 aren't really overall "better" than gold/gearset loot, they just require different builds.

[sudden matrix]

I wouldn't say you really need different builds at this point.

A good build is the foundation and a gun is a means to show potential of said build, different guns just highlight certain ones better.

[pseudo tundra]

More certain talents are so busted it can carries a lot of stuff

[warm pawn]

i just unlocked the shd watch, how can i farm xp fast?

[sudden matrix]

Pinned message in this channel detailing how to farm CPs for xp.

[warm pawn]

what are good exotics for lvl 40?

[sudden matrix]

Regulus, scorpio, btsu, coyotes mask, memento, backfire, ouro, elmo, nemesis, idk tons are good just depends on what you are doing.

[elfin chasm]

anyone know if contractors gives more dmg vs a fenris piece assuming AR primary?

[wispy merlin]

depends on the build, most of the time neither is best

[elfin chasm]

all red for fun build when i dont feel like strikers

gift/sacrifice/1p provi/grupo/fox/ ?

[wispy merlin]

if you're overcapping on chc then yeah i would say so

for high end it doesn't really matter that much, what does matter is using fenris will not benefit your secondary

[elfin chasm]

yea dont need ceska

if i go ceska i gotta change my underbarrel to like accuracy or smth

im running a famas

otherwise i overcap

but ye im sitting at 58% chc already

[wispy merlin]

another 1p prov will also work

[rugged stratus]

At this point there are better options than highend. It's still good for raids and stuff tho. Isnt crit OD a bit better now

[elfin chasm]

already running that

[wispy merlin]

since you're on 2p prov already, the 3rd will give chd

[elfin chasm]

whats crit od?

[wispy merlin]

ongoing directive crit

[rugged stratus]

Ongoing directive

[wispy merlin]

just the normal OD variant

[rugged stratus]

Set as crit

Just setup an od crit and I like it a lot. Wrecks

Now I need to farm 3 more sets for alts

[elfin chasm]

what weaps?

[rugged stratus]

Carnage lmg. Sadist weapon of some variety . Lmg/ar/rifle all can work

I have carnage and scorpio, gunner for banshee pulse to proc bleed ammo, then it keeps itself procced

[elfin chasm]

hmm

[rugged stratus]

Whole team gets a 20% amp.

[elfin chasm]

maybe i make that

i do need to make a watch mule

im outa optimization mats

also i still dont get why some ppl keep telling me to run st elmos over famas

[rugged stratus]

That's always the struggle.

[elfin chasm]

i feel like famas does more

[rugged stratus]

Famas is stronger, elmo more stable with higher capacity. Kinda evens out in my mind

[elfin chasm]

shruge

i like the rpm of famas, can take down enemies faster

if i kill them faster they cant shoot back

[rugged stratus]

No doubts about that

[elfin chasm]

how does one farm the carnage

i dont have that

[rugged stratus]

Named item caches.
Countdown best with lmg target

It common

[elfin chasm]

o wait i thought it was exo

[rugged stratus]

Nope

[elfin chasm]

ok nvm i have it

erm. what to roll on it

dta?

[rugged stratus]

I have chance as my 3rd. Rof is good too

[elfin chasm]

you run coyotes?

[rugged stratus]

Yeah, ceska vig coyote

[elfin chasm]

thinking of contractors since almost everyone i play with has a coyote striker build

[rugged stratus]

As long as you make your crit contractors works

[elfin chasm]

maybe its time i scrap some of my unused speedrun builds

so i can use the pieces

HMM

ive got this , ceska

was older speedrun build for going up top on ih boss 3

[rugged stratus]

Hazpro free to roll, so yeah. Works

[amber snow]

whats the fastest way to lvl season pass? got 26 levels left and 12 hours to do it

and im caught up on manhunt and journey so cant do those

[odd condor]

stronghold priority objectives

[pearl stone]

Am i trippin? You cant target yaahl?

[wispy merlin]

nope

[pearl stone]

Do you just target farm the piece of loot you want? Damn howd i never realize that

[wispy merlin]

well yaahl is only obtainable in pvp

[pearl stone]

So i completely lucked out getting a perfect yaahl piece, i go to want more and its like the hardest thing ever. damn

Ive been teased

[marsh tundra]

its dz only, or named cache for the named one

[marsh tundra]

there are 11 weeks left ?

[amber snow]

I don't wanna play this game

[marsh tundra]

then.... dont ?

[amber snow]

I bought the bp I'm finishing it

And then not play til last week like I did last season

[marsh tundra]

ok, but why rush it in 12h if you can do the same over few weeks for the same playtime ?

[amber snow]

Double xp

[marsh tundra]

there is another season xp coming

also if you dont like this game i dont know why u even bought the bp

[amber snow]

Who said I didn't like it, there's just nothing to do outside the battle pass at the point I'm at

[marsh tundra]

you said you dont wanna play

[amber snow]

Cuz there's nothing left to do besides the battle pass

[marsh tundra]

wym

there is manhunt

and journey

[amber snow]

No point doing it til the week before the climax mission

[amber snow]

Done

[marsh tundra]

also i dont understand wym about doing the bp

its not a thing you do

its just skins and items to drop

[amber snow]

Yeah it is, u grind XP, and it has a more specific XP grind vs regular xp

[marsh tundra]

i mean, you could also grind xp, or events

[amber snow]

Don't need XP and there's like 2 global events I like doing and don't have much reason to grind those anymore either

[rugged stratus]

There are a number of us that dont need xp anymore and just run stuff for fun.

Kinda not sure why you grill everyone about everything tbh. There is some shit you cant fix and it's probably super annoying to whoever is getting grilled for something you dont feel the same way about... its annoying reading it ... so maybe chill sometimes 🧊

[marsh tundra]

im chill, i just dont understand, but its fine

[rugged stratus]

That's the idea, you dont need to know why someone does whatever... sometimes it's just accept what you get and move forward. Even more relevant irl as well.

[pearl stone]

If i go with a friend into the dark zone whos under shd lvl 1000 will they be brought into shd lvl 1000 territory fighting for their life or will i be bullying noobs?

[daring wren]

It’ll be based on highest shd level for the group so 1000+

For good reason tbh

[robust vigil]

They split up DZ? I thought it was just FFA

[bold tiger]

not sure which update it was, but yeah they split it up in brackets i believe? something like shd1-100 or something of that sort, not sure the actual number just using that as a reference

[stone skiff]

I'm pretty sure the division is just 1000. (With platform and regional divisions too of course)

[robust vigil]

Does difficulty not affect the Hunters in DC or something? Or why am I getting one-shot on normal at 1k+ shd level

[rugged stratus]

Chances are its build related... they scale with selected difficulty

[robust vigil]

I'm on a full red striker build, but never had anything else in the game one-shot me on normal difficulty

[rugged stratus]

You can place shock traps before you spawn them and it will give you a few seconds to put damage into them.

They usually pretty weak tbh. Was modifier on and was hunter frenzy or something? Using glass?

[robust vigil]

No mods, normal difficulty. It's the duo. They don't have a lot of hp, but they do insane damage for Normal

Every other hunter up to this point I've had no trouble with

The 5 solo ones

And it's extra frustrating because now I have to wait until it's night again in game

[rugged stratus]

No doubt. Super annoying waiting to redo the puzzles. Scorpio secondary may help buy a little time as well

Its been a minute since I did hunters, i wonder if something changed with them🤔

[inner tendon]

Well Ghost got a heck of a lot easier, but outside of that: the Puzzles are pretty much the same.

[rugged stratus]

If you're working on these in the next hour or so, I'll be hopping on and can run some cc for you. They cant escape my foam 😎

[robust vigil]

Thanks for the offer 🙂

[hardy sun]

is there anything i should focus on specifically during the grind from lvl 31-40 like farming armor or is there no point in doing anything but rushing to 40 with whatever upgrades i get per level

[sudden matrix]

No point, just put on same level gear.

[marsh tundra]

just rush

[hardy sun]

makes sense

just wanted to be sure

[ripe elk]

is it better to farm summit for bighorn or should I stick with legendary strongholds?

[slim elk]

summit f10/20...

[ripe elk]

gotcha, im assuming its alot of farming to get it?

[slim elk]

nah not really

[ripe elk]

oh awesome, thanks

[rugged stratus]

@stuck glade #td2-general-chat message
yellow mark represents yellow skilltier cores in your build (or red weapon damage core /blue armor core).
red mark represents attributes/mods, on skill builds this is generally skill damage, skill haste, status effects and further modify the skills.
your skilltier is determined by the number of skilltier cores you have , in the screenshot its skilltier 6.
there are also some ways to get a free skilltier.
Technician spec can give a free skilltier when unlocked.
memento bag/ninja bag both have 1 of each core.
2pc of brazos brand gives a skilltier
3pc of pallisades gives a skilltier
TDI Kard custom named pistol can give a skilltier when in hand.
weapon talent "Future Perfect" can give a few skill tiers on temporary basis.

hopefully this clears up some confusion. check the build guides spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice , the breakdowns will tell you what cores/attributes/weapons/skills/brands are needed for a particular setup

[pliant thistle]

what is the best way to farm sturdy extended 5.56 or 7.62 magazines?

[pseudo tundra]

Control points

[harsh dew]

as a new player (got the game three days ago) am I wasting my time trying to do Dark Zones?
unlocked them yesterday, tried one, obviously died in like two minutes to a duo before I even realized what was happening (or rather, I only saw two players)
I read there are brackets per player level + some sort of DZ rank but didn't seem to matter, the two guys I died to definitely knew what they were doing much better than I did

[slim elk]

I'd say yes, you're not able to hold yourself without the right knowledge and equipment/build.

Note that builds only matter at lvl40.

[harsh dew]

so neither my low player level nor low DZ rank matter because I'd be going against players who already know what they're doing despite having the same numbers?
like, I'm level 10 DZ level 1, that's as low as it can go isn't it

and item drops would still be appropriate to player level so I'd find better gear in PvE/story soon anyway I assume

[stone skiff]

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that once you get access to DZ you play only with players below SHD Level 1000, once you reach 1000 you play with everyone. This is what I've read on here and it's my experience as well. (Besides the regional and platform separation).

[harsh dew]

what I was referring to by levels was this, from the wiki:
Matchmaking in the Dark Zones occurs in two separate brackets. On the one side, players are matched in level buckets (1-10, 11-20, and 21-30) and normalized to the same power level. On the other side, all players who have reached World Tier are matched together and normalized to the same World Tier.
outdated info? no idea what World Tier is, probably endgame scaling

[nimble spruce]

Definitely outdated, world tiers no longer exist

Iirc the buckets are now 1-30, 31-39, shd 1-499, 500-999, 1000+

But I'm not entirely certain on that.
Pretty sure it tells you the range when you actually look at the dz info in-game

[harsh dew]

so only DZ levels matter for matchmaking purposes? makes trying for DZ loot pointless hopeless as a new player, doesn't it?
in-game tutorials tell me that DZ xp is earned by doing anything in the DZ but only lost when Rogue, so am I understanding it correctly that I could just be ratting and being non-conflict to other players as much as I want and I'd still go up in rank used to matchmake by "skill" in playing DZs?

[nimble spruce]

No, the level buckets are player level / shd level, dz level has nothing to do with them

Easiest non-pvp way to increase your dz levels is to extract contaminated gear.

[harsh dew]

so these aren't related? I don't think I'm particularly stupid but Ubi games love to make their UI obtuse with menus inside menus

I actually do not want to increase my DZ level, if I understand it right that by doing that, I would be pushed into lobbies against players more experienced with PvP

I'd prefer to avoid PvP in the game when possible, so I may not play DZs at all, just curious how it works

[nimble spruce]

DZ level has no effect on matchmaking, only your main character level or shd level.

Increasing your dz level unlocks various perks from the dz lady upstairs in the white house, but has no other effect on gameplay afaik.

[harsh dew]

okay, so it's the other way around and completely different to how I read it based on what the game told me
then is it really one bracket SHD <1k and the other everyone who's higher? if so, that would really give me zero incentive to go do DZs, as pretty much everyone would have more skills/gear/experience

[nimble spruce]

^

But just go try it out a bunch of times and see for yourself. If you get killed, it's no big loss (unless you had some loot you really wanted to extract)

[harsh dew]

so is my SHD level 12 based on the screenshot or is it a different number somewhere

[nimble spruce]

Either your character level is 12 (and you're still working through the DC story), or your character level is 40 and your shd level is 12.

Judging by the xp numbers I'd say your character level is 12.

[harsh dew]

yeah, since I've only been playing for about 8 hours total it's going to take a while, so SHD is the endgame "overspill" once you've reached max character level
so then my SHD level is... one?

[nimble spruce]

You don't have a shd level at all until you reach level 40 and claim your watch

[rich kindle]

and get that first beloved 0.2% crit chance

[harsh dew]

so how is it matching me if I don't even have an SHD level yet?

[nimble spruce]

You'd be in the 1-30 bracket ^

[harsh dew]

that's what I guessed, and I'm also guessing I'd already be going up against players who are already character level 40 and have a full build
thanks for the info, I'll just focus on getting lvl 40 and "finishing the tutorial" for now

[quartz flame]

Get your self in New York if you need any help DM me I will help

[nimble spruce]

No crossplay in this game

[quartz flame]

I know there’s no Crossplay lol

[nimble spruce]

Well, you have the PS role and they have the PC role, so either one of you is missing a role, or I guess your offered help is informational rather than ingame...

[tough marsh]

Inb4 "this message costs $5"

[zenith pike]

Is lefty or rocknroll a dz drop? or is it possible to get it in the summit or countdown?

[gray mason]

I have the Rock n' Roll, but have never set foot in a DZ. So it must be attainable from either named catches or The Summit.

[marsh tundra]

its named caches

[open mountain]

named caches

like all named items besides the hunter ones

[gray mason]

Don't tell me, tell it to the guy who was asking, haha 🤭

[open mountain]

i don’t give a fart

[gray mason]

LOL 😂

[scarlet umbra]

But who owns this new mask location in New York?

The problem with the division easter eggs is that they are incomprehensible and impossible to find without a solution on purpose, no clue is given by NPCs, everything is random, pressing buttons at a certain time, scattered all over the map without any real logic or shooting targets in a specific order, but without a clue it's really a shame

[marsh tundra]

some people found out with the same knowledge as you tho

[tough marsh]

There is no mask. Yannick confirmed it

[marsh tundra]

he did ?

then whats this for ?

[tough marsh]

He said it's a development thing

[marsh tundra]

what does that even mean lol

[tough marsh]

Game development

I.e. making games

[marsh tundra]

no but i mean

why is it there

[tough marsh]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marsh tundra]

and not just "cause dev games" xd

[pseudo tundra]

They probably thought of making one more couldnt make a good puzzle and forgot/left as is

[light inlet]

apparently smashing your shield in someones face isn't a melee, it's a skill kill -.- oh well

[nimble zenith]

Will the location be open after this timer or i will have to find that agent again?

[sudden matrix]

Once you get the snitch you are good for the week, just wait for them to open.

[nimble zenith]

@sudden matrix ty

[odd tinsel]

whats the recommended content to do to maintain narrative cohesion before i go to ny? need to assault the capitol but unsure what order i do all of the stuff outside dc in

[nimble spruce]

Check the pinned messages

[quick folio]

Where can i find the td2 trello board?

[odd tinsel]

and the post-capitol stuff all have like "story" difficulties right? they're not the raids proper for like manning national zoo for example

[quick folio]

Is there a trello board not related to issues?

Like, whats coming/being worked on, generally

[nimble spruce]

Yeah, you have to run them on story difficulty first to unlock the higher difficulties

[odd tinsel]

thanks

[sudden matrix]

They don't really have a road map. Best you get is a live stream.

[nimble spruce]

They generally don't tell us much about future plans until they're ready to go live with them. People still begging after the specialisation revamp they mentioned years ago and then abandoned..

[elfin chasm]

can gift be farmed in countdown

[wispy merlin]

no, you can open named caches from countdown shop tho

[elfin chasm]

damn

i need another gift with hsd for my hotshot build

[sudden matrix]

No need.

I mean it's nice if you are using it vs prov but it's not even bis for sniper builds.

[elfin chasm]

im on a airaldi atm

whats bis then?

[sudden matrix]

Typically airaldi. Hold on I did a comparison of this a while ago.

[elfin chasm]

someone told me gift is like slightly better than airaldi

[quick folio]

Airaldy w vigilance

[sudden matrix]

#td2-build-advice message

That's the difference.

[elfin chasm]

was that regular prov or gift tho

[wispy merlin]

trust me, airaldi is more relevant since you deal more damage to helmets

[elfin chasm]

perfect vig is slightly more aint it

[sudden matrix]

0 damage difference.

[elfin chasm]

hmm fair enough

how relevant is weapon handling on the model 700

[sudden matrix]

perfect vigi is 3 seconds vigi goes down vs 4 seconds.

[elfin chasm]

my chainkiller and backpack dont have weap handling

[sudden matrix]

imo WH until you reach 100% stability.

[wispy merlin]

pretty relevant, 100% stability is very much nice to have and the reload on it is atrocious

[elfin chasm]

what does handling do again?

my knowledge of that is lacking

[sudden matrix]

buckets

[elfin chasm]

my old sniper build for speedrunning was using crit so i have no idea what handling does

[wispy merlin]

accuracy, stability, reload, swap speed all in one

[elfin chasm]

and i only came back recently

i guess i gotta refarm the chainkiller and backpack

[sudden matrix]

ez items tho.

[elfin chasm]

im almost dry on optimization mats

[sudden matrix]

Just know snipers are very over tuned so you have more options for building depending on the diff/player scaling.

[elfin chasm]

i burned thru like 6k shd points making all the latest builds

need to level a watch mule soon

[sudden matrix]

mule it up

[quick folio]

Very, it reloads bullet by bullet iirc

[elfin chasm]

i just cbf running wony all over again

[sudden matrix]

Can be done in DC now.

[elfin chasm]

how long do you need if its done like solo?

i know lvl 40s can carry

[sudden matrix]

Invaded missions with a single carry takes 45ish min and you can have more run it to do it in 15-20.

[elfin chasm]

but dont got much friends

[sudden matrix]

Some people trade them.

[quick folio]

Does refactor benefit from skill repair (self?) in any way? Or excusively skill dmg

[elfin chasm]

also idk if its just me or what but

why does it feel like dttooc on st elmos is stupid hard to get

[sudden matrix]

RNG be like dat

[elfin chasm]

i spent 55 reconfigs for my first elmo and my second one is currently 70+ and still havent hit

[sudden matrix]

yikes, yeah I don't have that bad of luck.

[elfin chasm]

yeah...

i gotta reconfig all my old exotics

almost all of them were reconfigured to perfect or almost perfect long ago before they allowed the 3rd stat to be rerolled

[sudden matrix]

Yeah that's the same with most of us too.

[elfin chasm]

yea well i just came back after like a 5 year break

[sudden matrix]

RIP

[elfin chasm]

yeah

hence why i burned thru so much stuff optimizing all the newer builds

[sudden matrix]

Well expertise is much cheaper now so yay

[elfin chasm]

most of my builds were outdated

[rugged stratus]

First world problems

[elfin chasm]

expertise was not a thing back then xDD

even optimization wasnt

had to grind like a maniac for perfect rolled gear

[sudden matrix]

Yeah but tons of people spent tons of exos to hit 20 expertise where it's less than half to hit 28 now.

[rugged stratus]

It was 55 exo to 20 back then

So less than 28

[sudden matrix]

I could swear it was more.

[elfin chasm]

is it worth using watch mule for optimization

[sudden matrix]

yeah

[elfin chasm]

or just blow it all on expertise and farm the optimization stuff

[sudden matrix]

Both

[rugged stratus]

Every level after that was 20per.

Real steep

So 155 to hit level 25

[sudden matrix]

You either countdown a ton to hit the high stuff and then mule for the rest or you just mule off the bat.

[rugged stratus]

At that rate it would be 205exo now to hit 28 😅

[sudden matrix]

If you are 6K SHD and can find people who will help mule it's much faster that way.

[cinder flare]

whats with my arm?

[wispy merlin]

amputee agent

[elfin chasm]

yeah idk

highrolling stuff like chest or backpack seems hard

ive been farming all day for a lefty and havent found one

i need sledge on all my healer builds now

[rugged stratus]

Ninja bike wont fix that set bonus

[rugged stratus]

Put it on a pistol

[quick folio]

Huh?

[elfin chasm]

HMM

but perfect sledge for the extra %

perfectionist OCD ya know

if i make a build its gotta be maxed out 🤣

[rugged stratus]

Yeah, it's not gonna be used a ton anyway. Better on pistol unless you planning on reg

[elfin chasm]

oh also, achiles pulse oneshot build, what does more dmg
1 bullet d50 with optimist or reg

[rugged stratus]

Nvm I was continuing a thought

[quick folio]

Bet

[quick folio]

Reg

[rugged stratus]

Harvest/686 mag and regulus all good

D50 nerfed

[elfin chasm]

oh?

i used to run d50 optimist with 1 shot remaining for 1shotting razorback

[rugged stratus]

There are a lot of changes over the past year or so, go through the #patch-notes

[elfin chasm]

is the oneshot build in the spreadsheet

i cant find it

[marsh tundra]

if you use hh build full stack thats not surprising, basically any weapon would

[elfin chasm]

yea might need to read 4-5 years worth... xd im gonna forget 90% of it

[rugged stratus]

That I'm not sure. I'm sure @sudden matrix has something

[elfin chasm]

nah it was with dodge holster and using ravenous to boost dmg

[rugged stratus]

Not the same 1shot

[elfin chasm]

i dont think its used outside of speedrunning

[rugged stratus]

Nego, right

[elfin chasm]

no this was pre achiles pulse

i quit before that came out

[rugged stratus]

There are still 1 shots with like a bunch of team buffs, achilles, nego , dch and critting a weakpoint to transfer iirc.

[sudden matrix]

tons of one shots

[rugged stratus]

But idk the exact loadout

[sudden matrix]

Which one are you looking for?

[elfin chasm]

link me all of them i guess?

and what theyre used for

[elfin chasm]

yea im familiar with how achiles works i saw vids of it being used for newer speedrun strats

but this one was specifically for one tapping the armor plate or w/e thats called at the top of razorback when it opened

[sudden matrix]

Yeah that's what I figured.

We just use strikers for it now.

[elfin chasm]

you stack the armor buff from ravenous then swap to pistol to do a shit ton of dmg to oneshot it

[elfin chasm]

yea strikers was not really meta back then

except for buddy and lucy

[sudden matrix]

Yeah, but there are three major one shot builds, strikers HSD/HE pistol/nego and depending on what your doing and your team setup/buffs they can vary wildly.

[elfin chasm]

you run a focus chest with vig backpack and 4p strikers with a 8x scope on that LMG that shoots fast after reloading from empty

and have 2 ppl using that on buddy and the other 6 hitting lucy

sleipnir i think the lmg was called

[sudden matrix]

We have 2 buffers prep dogs and have 3 HSD strikers shoot achilles marks now.

[elfin chasm]

yea meta completely changed after achiles

pfiser gets oneshotted on spawn now

that wasnt possible before

[sudden matrix]

That's nego

[elfin chasm]

wait is it?

[sudden matrix]

Three ways that people commonly do it too.

[elfin chasm]

i saw people using nemesis and achiles

[sudden matrix]

That's prep damage.

[elfin chasm]

the moment he comes up

[sudden matrix]

They then shoot a rocket ads backpack and nego transfer the damage.

[elfin chasm]

dont u need adds for nego

ah

[sudden matrix]

Weakpoint/armor plating takes full damage and transfers it all.

[elfin chasm]

can u link me those 3

or tell me where to find them

unless i blind i dont see it in the spreadsheet

[sudden matrix]

Those aren't exactly in there but they vary from team to team.

[elfin chasm]

probably only gonna make strikers one

that still works for regular dh on b&l part right

and razorback

doubt ill get back into speedrunning

[sudden matrix]

Was gonna say I could hook you up.

[elfin chasm]

maybe in a month or two

ive forgotten like 90% of ih/dh mechanics

🤣

[sudden matrix]

It's all different anyway.

We are gonna start up DH here in a week or two, goal is sub 7 time.

[elfin chasm]

:o

i dont think i did that much dh runs back then but i think my old pb was 16 mins

pb on ih was 21 mins (wr was just under 20 back then)

[sudden matrix]

I mean year 1 pre wony I had 7:43.

[elfin chasm]

uh i didnt speedrun pre wony

[sudden matrix]

IH we finished out recently at 15:41.

[elfin chasm]

only after

[elfin chasm]

isnt it mostly achiles cheesing now

we used to have to run nego diamondback for boomer to skip breaking the backpack once

[sudden matrix]

DH ehhh I mean yeah it's used everywhere pretty much. Boomer-nego, boss 2 bunch of DCH/achilles, lucy buddy DCH strikers, RB is a single tac 50 shot.

[elfin chasm]

also is the dh speedrun record on the leaderboard even legit? 3 min 12 sec feels impossible

[sudden matrix]

Naw PC boards are trash.

[elfin chasm]

whats the actual wr

[sudden matrix]

It's like 6:51 or something like that.

[elfin chasm]

was gonna say razorback itself takes like atleast a full minute if not more

[sudden matrix]

Trust me I know, I'm like 4k on the incursion leaderboards...

[elfin chasm]

HMM

maybe time to watch dh wr video

[sudden matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/@fam.broken9999

Broken has tons of WRs for DH/IH/most legendary missions.

[elfin chasm]

scrajj

4 man dh wtf lol

[sudden matrix]

I did it in year one, it's always been a thing lol

[elfin chasm]

oh

is the 7:59 the wr?

[sudden matrix]

naw that's just a 4 man run for lolz

6:51 is in there about 10 months ago.

[elfin chasm]

o i see a 629

[sudden matrix]

Well that's kinda debated cause there was a short term glitch that allowed you to clip thru the map and it's patched.

So unless something game breaking happens like that again that's just permanent WR which is dumb and not helping the speeds community with an untouchable time.

[wispy merlin]

WR is only WR if most of us agree 👍

[inner tendon]

Wouldn't the timer be the judge of that?

[sudden matrix]

We'd have to let checkpoint glitchers have a podium then.

[elfin chasm]

isnt the current ih wr with glitches too

[inner tendon]

It's a good thing that like, 3 people care about the timers.
and 2 of those people are apparently here.

[elfin chasm]

i watched the video and they did open doors shit plus some other stuff

[sudden matrix]

Ehhh rolling rons is less than glitchless

[sudden matrix]

I love enthusiasm and support you seethe. Always great interactions with you.

[elfin chasm]

talking bout the whiteout one

i saw his vid and hes like all the way infront at the start when they reset

i assume its because he rolled out of the map or smth

[sudden matrix]

Few ways you can do that. We've named the current method rolling rons. idk if that's what they use.

[inner tendon]

Let's not play the "who's less positive" game. We all have our points of this game that we despise.

[sudden matrix]

Yeah I just typically show that towards the game and not people.

[inner tendon]

I never said it towards anyone in particular.

[sudden matrix]

Not the 2 people here I guess huh?

[inner tendon]

I said that 2 people care about it, not that they're wrong for doing so.

[elfin chasm]

seems that way, definitely wasnt something we used back then
at most we did open doors at the start

[sudden matrix]

We'll I'm glad you chimed in to the conversation to contribute uhhhh showing that no one cares about the timer other than us. It was a real great interaction.

[elfin chasm]

most of the boss kills i dont even understand whats going on anymore i just see achiles and dead

i do see boss 3 getting a huge time save vs before though

[wispy merlin]

I've only heard about them like since 1 or 2 years ago

[elfin chasm]

we still had to run through the entire thing before

now you can kill with achiles without doing the final bit it seems

[inner tendon]

I see plenty of opinions on here that I outright disagree or vehemently oppose and say nothing.

I decided to comment on this one because about half the time I see this stuff brought up, it leads to several filtered messages. And me being the target instead is a good distraction.

You must've noticed that I do that a lot.

No worries, just keep it civil. I'll get out of your hair.

[sudden matrix]

Yes I do typically check out of conversations you interject on but it's for other reasons.

[plucky hawk]

Theres basically been a way to 1 shot all the bosses we're one shotgjng with Achilles since year 1, setups have just changed a bit, Achilles definitely makes it easier, but it's nothing really new.

[elfin chasm]

yeah, seems that way, incase you didnt follow the convo above , im just saying its new to me cause ive been on a 5 year break and quit before achiles released

[plucky hawk]

Yeah, I've been catching up on the conversation

[elfin chasm]

for now im just farming to catch my builds up to standard

[sudden matrix]

Well if you do get the itch let me know, tons of people feel lost getting into speeds so I can probably help you meet people and try to get onto teams.

[elfin chasm]

ye will do

shame i came back on the last day of x5 exp

could have used an extra 1k shd levels

[plucky hawk]

Vroom is also generally the place to ask these speed type questions, which I see your in already anyways More knowledge people there, less people butting in without knowing what they are talking about lol

[elfin chasm]

vroom is dead isnt it

i thought most of lfn moved on

[plucky hawk]

Less active but still going

Also not lfn specific

[elfin chasm]

i mean vroom was made by lfn

i guess its evolved into a much bigger server now

ah... i found my old record
good old times

[sudden matrix]

Lfn doesn't have much to do with it

Lunar is stuck at work too much to run anyway.

LFN has some weirdos too @plucky hawk

[elfin chasm]

susge~1

[scarlet umbra]

ok thanks for this information

[inner tendon]

Granted: he confirmed it whilst winking at the camera.

The exact quote:
"There is no undiscovered Hunter Mask, we swear"

[scarlet umbra]

Leaving this hook unused makes me sad.

[inner tendon]

If you have the time, I'd recommend tuning into the livestreams when they're on. Yannick is so very sassy.

[lunar kraken]

Bitter is the word I'd have used

[inner tendon]

Not really a good descriptor.

[lunar kraken]

seems to fit pretty well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eager inlet]

well... I'm sure you could see how glitches that are only available for a short time, as well as blatant cheating would affect the way the rest of the speedrunning community feels about calling something a WR?
That's why there's glitchless and any% categories separately as well.
In game leaderboards don't matter, they're all ruined by cheaters anyways. So if someone claims a WR it's generally required to post a video of the run publicly so the community can judge if it's legit or not.

[spring moss]

hey guys it says your game save is unavailable when i try load in, are the sevrers down or something?

[bold tiger]

possibly, i can't stay in the game atm

jump on, goto map and game just locks up. if i don't go into the map it's stuttering like when people were gaining a bunch of levels with exploit with oxidizer

[scarlet lance]

@wheat spade

[wheat spade]

I'm happy with my times 😉🫳

[bold tiger]

maybe they had fun?

[wheat spade]

Cant see that far down the boards it's okay😉

[wheat spade]

Don't listen to him he was left on a step as I kid

[bold tiger]

oh IH XD

[wheat spade]

🫳😉

I'm an ih player, no

🐸🔫

☝️I am forg

[bold tiger]

wait until you run with me, that time might double XD

[wheat spade]

Can't see up to the 20s on ih time who are you again?

[spring moss]

i was also wondering guys you know the btsu gloves, do i get overcharge for me everytime i detonate hive or is there a cooldown

[wheat spade]

Cool down

[spring moss]

ahhh got it ty

[bold tiger]

not just you either, your whole party gets an OC from that i believe

[spring moss]

ah yeah i see it damn will mabye look for another exotic in that case

[bold tiger]

no i'm pretty sure it's everyone in your party gets OC whether they have ST6?

yeah, that's what i was saying......your party gets OC from it
you're making it sound like your party has to be at ST6 to recieve an OC from it.......

[wheat spade]

Ima go #2 bye all

[bold tiger]

yes, i was even saying your party and you're like "Only at st6"

[crude swallow]

Why am I here lol

[bold tiger]

not sure who'd use BTSU and not be at ST6 to begin with

the conversation was based on getting overcharge, so i'm assuming they're at ST 6...
hopefully you now understand the coversation a bit better based on that

yeah, we didn't have troll education back in my day

oh you learned from them for reading huh? would make sense since you're putting them down

if that's how you want to 👀 it

[crude swallow]

lol

[marsh tundra]

yeah maybe dont say stuff like that

[crude swallow]

Snowflake

[wheat spade]

I like edging

😉

[bold tiger]

@rugged stratus everything chc/chd where possible

[rugged stratus]

-# sorry in advance for useful spam

Grand Washington Hotel is invaded this week.
Perfect week to start the Nemesis project, or get that blueprint you been waiting for.

After you get the Tidal Basin piece , change mode for District Union Arena back to invaded and complete again for another piece. with 2 pieces in hand set GWH back to invaded and the blueprint will drop. Nemesis can be farmed from MMR TL after that regardless of project completion.

[bold tiger]

stats

[rugged stratus]

nice

[bold tiger]

not sure if i should even change anything else out aside gloves maybe and go contractors?

[rugged stratus]

should use contractors tho

[bold tiger]

true, i haven't played that build in forever so i'm not in any hurry to fix it XD

[swift prism]

can anyone tell me is there a quick way to get the momentum back pack?

[rugged stratus]

oh no, why my precious memento getting its name bastardized all the time

countdown, target loot backpacks. sacrifice to Lootcifer for exo drops, and buy exo caches with the credits earned. 2 birds/1 stone
🔥 😈 🔥

[marsh tundra]

bird shot with one stone

[rugged stratus]

you have a bit more chd than i do, which is kinda surprising since im running elmo. i could probably use some better mods and i think the chc on the fenris changes the mix slightly

[bold tiger]

nah, fenris is just Assult rifle damage

[rugged stratus]

the rolls

[bold tiger]

oh yeah, it's maxed on all chc/chd in my build

[rugged stratus]

contractors only has chd and dta on my setup

[bold tiger]

yeah, it's possibly the extra 6% on fenris helps me hit a higher chd

[rugged stratus]

i dont really use this setup for the most part. it was a raid setup to get reg, but its solid. nego my goto for 90% of dps. i have really been liking ongoing directive tho. pretty dope

gets used the same way as he for the most part

[bold tiger]

yeah, kind of fell in love with the OD build i saw with Bluescreen

[stone skiff]

Can I ask, I read somewhere that the right balance of Critical Chance versus Damage is 1:2, i.e. chance should be half of the damage. Or is that situational or doesn't make any real difference?

[pseudo tundra]

crit chance caps at 60% so you work around getting close to that, so the rest goes int damage

[bold tiger]

think i heard 55% is the sweet spot to hit?

[slim elk]

if you don't sacrifice too much chd yeah

[wheat onyx]

is it still possible to get any of the cosmetics from the resident evil collab?

[polar pagoda]

Any info that it will be a new division game coming soon?

[worldly fjord]

There's resurgence and 3, no release date on either of them

[polar pagoda]

But in your opinion, when it will be released? I wanna buy div 2 again, coz my old account lost after change email I cant sign in to my account

[tough marsh]

Div 3 won't arrive any time "soon"

[quick folio]

hadda do it

[slim elk]

holy shit

[elfin chasm]

how bout some donation for a poor man

[inner tendon]

Sounds like you need to run some Prio.Objectives.

[mental pier]

Div3 is still in early pre-production by the sounds of it. Last time I looked, they were still hiring for a number of lead/senior positions. That likely means several years until we might get the game. I would guess March 2028 at the absolute earliest, but more likely some time after that.

[worldly fjord]

Resurgence i think is set to release this year. Div3 not at least till 2028

Maybe even 29

They started the development of div2 just a week after the launch of div1, but div3 started roughly 6 years after div2

[inner tendon]

Well, that's when they made the dev work public.

But MSV have been rather busy, making Avatar and Outlaws.

[nocturne siren]

GTA 6 will likely exist before div 3

[inner tendon]

Maybe not on PC, but the console version? The odds are very good.

Div2's still fun, div3 can take its time.

[nocturne siren]

Yeah 6 will see console before it sees PC, which I find a major spit in the face on the PC community... Considering the PC community literally carries FiveM. Feelings aside, div 2 is hit or miss for me currently. All I play now is pvp and that's been rather unrewarding. Been on farcry3 lately tho 👀

[polar pagoda]

Is it free? Like on the mobile phone?

[nocturne siren]

What's the TL loot today in the dark zones btw?? Won't be on till later (possibly)

[cinder flare]

why drone

[nocturne siren]

It's set to be released Free to Play. That could change of course. It's Ubisoft afterall

[nocturne siren]

Acts as a mobile decoy

Draws enemy fire. It's viable

I need to start using it more often 😆😭

[cinder flare]

every time i used drone enemies never shot it tbh

[nocturne siren]

The trick is to manually set the drone to target pesky ads

[inner tendon]

Can confirm: had one shot out of the sky about 6 hours ago.

[nocturne siren]

Even at ST 0 the drone has crazy uptime

You can alternatively run defender. It's one of my fav skills

Crazy is that it's just like Provocator too 😂😂 and you don't lose a chest talent lol

[cinder flare]

for me it was always bugged and drone always shot those who i aim at instead of shooting the one i pressed target key on

[nocturne siren]

I can't say for sure if the skill itself is bugged or not because frankly, I don't use the striker drone. Only drone I touch is spotter and defender. If I need a decoy I'm either just gonna abuse pixel peek or hike out an actual decoy

I can test it later today tho

[inner tendon]

I did test it out today, it was working fine.

6 hours ago, in fact.

[cinder flare]

it happened to me not only with striker drone but with seeking healing mine as well

[inner tendon]

Tell you what, I've got a few minutes. I'll try it again now.

[cinder flare]

didnt happen with anything else tho

[nocturne siren]

I fully believe it. I personally wouldn't know so I myself can't exactly say for sure or not lol

[nocturne siren]

When you kill the ad the skill is targeting, it goes back to "standby" mode and goes on autopilot for the most part

Or that's how it should work

[inner tendon]

The trick is to let it kill the non-heavy reds and purples, and you target the tough stuff.

[nocturne siren]

This ^^

[cinder flare]

it always got them to low hp and then began to shoot the one im aiming at without killing the targeted one

[nocturne siren]

Or ads that sit in cover

[cinder flare]

thats pretty much how i was going to use it

[inner tendon]

Heck, you can even give it a hand and take out most of their health bar.
That's how I use it on my OD setup.

[nocturne siren]

Never thought to try striker drone on OD. I run reviver and foam lol

[cinder flare]

idk what od is

[nocturne siren]

Ongoing Directive. Striker's new stackless replacement

[inner tendon]

the temptation to make a WF reference is overwhelming.

Oh it's just because I'm obsessed with OD at the moment, so I slap on the 2 skills I need ot do Journey stuff.

[nocturne siren]

Supplies the team hollow ammo too. Very good team/DPS set

[inner tendon]

currently: striker drone+scanner.

the spreadsheet setup with Scorpio and Carnage is great.
2 shots with the former, then you can pretty much solo use the latter.

[nocturne siren]

I'm journey 5 rn. I've given up on the season bc I abused the journey bugs. The reward cosmetics for the journey is mid so I'm not exactly inclined to rush for them

Carnage I need more of 😩

[inner tendon]

base Sadist is fine, as is an AR instead, then you can use the Firewall Shield.

but I like my giant bleedy machine gun.

[nocturne siren]

On my setup I run iron lung and a G36C with Sadist. 750 RPM is just perfect for me, even without a damage talent on iron lung it still does immaculate damage

I only have 1 carnage and that's currently taken up on my pvp char

[inner tendon]

I like being able to freshly proc the ammo faster, so Scorpio all the way.
buuuut an AR is honestly better overall for the primary gun.

[nocturne siren]

I run gunner on mine for AoK as well as boosting the team's base ammo too . Figured I'd just call it the Rambo build lol bullets galore

[nocturne siren]

Foam is my answer to that lol

I can be a prick and take an all red OD build into pvp with a decoy and I'm set to destroy with foam. No swapping required 😂😂

Been thinking about swapping to banshee pulse for the modifiers and Crowd Control

[inner tendon]

I'm sure it's a better setup overall, but I've finally found a reason to use Survivalist again, and I'm not dropping it now.

[nocturne siren]

Surv this season seems to be meta currently. That's the status effects bonus it gives. I'm sure the extra skill tiers make the healer mine worth it

[nimble spruce]

When you finish the journey and get the microwave coils modifier, test out the spotter drone with OD. You get crowd control, easy OD procs, and it ramps up your momentum really quickly too

[inner tendon]

I am very happy to hear the Tacti-drone is going to be of use.
I used that a LOT back in my Aces days.
cheers!

[worldly fjord]

Yeah

The 3 pulse passives work really good with the spotter drone. Enemies constantly on fire 😂

Just a few headshot kills and your at overcharge

[inner tendon]

I've got some fashion ideas with that Journey Mask, so I'm interested in getting it sooner rather than later.
Plus, it means I get to go beat up Nsync more.

[nocturne siren]

Yup plan on using the drone for that soon. This is my setup but swapped to survivalist. Can run Vigi for best up front damage but I choose unstoppable force bc I play this build like striker. Getting shot once is an instant 25% WD loss. PvP ofc I recommend Vigi but pve unstoppable force

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKgDCAWAbCebUfVgXADnFDBsAJyblYXZgrTxwgDslLFq2jh9brv1EdIrx5UwA4iOE5GoUIwCsk0dAThOUzNg18wWpWj3agA

I left the mods empty, for guns and gear

Up to the user to select what they want

[pearl pasture]

So, when you do the whole resource run thing and stack over the cap on mats... is there like a soft limit to stay at or anything? I don't wanna break my game/characters.

[nimble spruce]

I use wicked on the bag for more upfront damage (obviously less than unstoppable force once stacked though), also centurions holster is really nice if you can be bothered with all the weapon swapping

[nimble spruce]

Not that I've ever heard of, but there's little advantage in going far over cap, just leave the mule in place with scav points still to spend until you actually need the mats for something.

[pearl pasture]

Gotcha thanks, this is my plan. Got a mule with 2k points left and started an extra as spare today. But wanted to be safe and check.

[nocturne siren]

I could probably run that. I dislike it steals from the ammo reserve when swapping tho

Wicked i find perfect as well but to me that's still a pvp talent more or less. Slightly better than companion but not better than Vigi or unstoppable

Wicked imo needs to just be 20% at this rate

[nimble spruce]

With OD your ammo reserve is constantly topped up anyway. If you swap sidearm-main-sidearm-main you can get both buffs on your main weapon (although you have to get the mag size buff first and it will only last for that first mag)

It is a bit fiddly but the damage/rof amp is big enough I feel it's worth it most of the time

[nocturne siren]

Lots of builds I seen in PvE+pvp been running centurions just for that. I can get over the weapon swap mechanic but it does get annoying after a bit of usage

I still have mine I just... Don't use it much 😂

[nimble spruce]

Yeah I do often completely forget about it, but then most of the time you don't really need it anyway, it's nice to have that big dps boost on demand for when you actually need it though.

[high flame]

is there a way to find hunters besides summit and rng in the open world?

[nimble spruce]

They appear sometimes in missions and after capturing CPs, but still rng.
If you need some for the Ridgeway project then summit is the easiest place, you can just reset a suitable floor repeatedly until you get the notification that they've spawned.

There are some restrictions on the type of floor they can spawn though iirc so you probably want to search up a guide online

[high flame]

i cbf doing summit again

wont lie it was a pain the first

[nimble spruce]

Well, running a bunch of CPs is probably the next fastest method.

[high flame]

thank you muchly appreciated

[nimble spruce]

No worries, good luck!

[pearl pasture]

Thats rogues no? Hunters are floor 100, countdown or the masks if we don't count the mission based ones

[marsh tundra]

hunters are never random, rogues are

[nimble spruce]

Agh, you're right, I misread as rogues

[marsh tundra]

there are hunters in some missions like coney island manhunt, summit, and countdown

also the hunters in openworld if you do the puzzle

[nimble spruce]

See comments above, I got confused and gave you the wrong advice sorry!

Countdown hunters don't count for Ridgeway project but mission and mask ones do.

Schaeffer and Kelso manhunt missions both have a hunter

It's going to be confusing after this season when we have two Kelso legacy manhunt missions

[marsh tundra]

i mean we already have 2 keener missions

[high flame]

what puzzle?

[marsh tundra]

cant wait for the 5th hornet manhunt

[marsh tundra]

in open world there are hunters that you can fight if you do their puzzles, find the solution with google if you want

[rugged stratus]

Look up hunter mask guide on yt. Nothingbutskillz has a solid playlist telling you how to get each mask

[worldly basin]

What are the manhunt activities this week

[nimble spruce]

Just search Reddit, someone will have put them up. Also, please don't spam the same question across multiple channels..

[worldly basin]

Alright man

[rain nova]

Is it possible to solo hunters

[bold tiger]

i'm not neo and can not stop or dodge bullets

[marsh tundra]

yes but its hard if you dont know them

[bold tiger]

what about the ones in Countdown? 🤔

[marsh tundra]

every hunter is hard if you dont know what to do and you're alone

[zenith crown]

Hey guys,
I decided to play The Division 2 again.
I'm lvl 30 and completed the story 2 years ago.
What should I do now?
Should I start with the endgame and follow the Black Tusk storyline or should I start with the NewYork DLC?

Cheers

[pseudo tundra]

new york DLC probably

[bold tiger]

max level is now 40, like bird shot said head to new york

[pseudo tundra]

there is a rough guide of the plot pinned here in the channel

mostly what was mission order in case someone stopped playing and came back in the middle of it

[zenith crown]

Ok.
I was overwhelmed when I started the game yesterday.
There is SO MUCH to do....
But ok then, let's head to New York and complete the DLC and then back to Washington.
Many thanks.

[marsh tundra]

did you do the invaded story ?

[zenith crown]

No, not yet.
Only the regular story 2 years ago.
Nothing with the Black Tusk.

[marsh tundra]

play the bt storyline, then the pentagon + coney island, then wony, then legacy manhunts

[zenith crown]

And then the DLC when I'm lvl 40 or what?

[marsh tundra]

wony is the dlc, you can do it whenever but its better for story if you do that in order

[bold tiger]

the bt invaded story will help you to understand the weekly resets as every week at 40 you have 3 missions and a stronghold that becomes invaded

[warm pawn]

if i uninstall the game will i lose all the progress?

[marsh tundra]

no

[plucky hawk]

game progress is saved on their side, not yours

[warm pawn]

there is a bug in my game, at my xp bar instead of the "x/700k" thing it says max level

how can i fix it

[marsh tundra]

it means you reach lvl 40, now you need to change it to shd watch

go to the quatermaster to get it

[warm pawn]

i did

[marsh tundra]

then you just need to log out and log in again

[warm pawn]

i restarted the game even my pc and didnt fix

[marsh tundra]

do you have the watch ?

[bold tiger]

the 2nd watch

[warm pawn]

i have the watch

[marsh tundra]

what shd lvl are you ?

[warm pawn]

im at shd lvl 6

[inner tendon]

@warm pawn Can you still level up?

[marsh tundra]

then you're fine

you're still getting your lvls

[daring wren]

Welcome to the grind

[warm pawn]

yeah

[inner tendon]

It's probably just visual then, but make sure you report it all the same.
Here's the link

[warm pawn]

its a visual bug

[elfin chasm]

what spec do ppl run for OD

[marsh tundra]

gunner is fine

for the aok

[elfin chasm]

so just run the +50 mag then?

[marsh tundra]

i think survivalist gives more damage to your team if you deal bleeding too

[nimble spruce]

this season, sharpshooter works pretty well too for the spotter drone interactions with pulse modifiers

[elfin chasm]

hmm could u elaborate further

[ripe idol]

anyone ever submit a ticket to ubisoft/division2 im missing a item and need help getting it fixed.

[marsh tundra]

what item ?

[zealous ether]

@rugged stratus yo, can i have ur local lite whatever link with ovo builds? Ty

[bold tiger]

there's a modifier if you've gotten it where 4 random enemies can be set on fire when they get pulsed

[elfin chasm]

ah

how is firewall for OD?

[rain nova]

Wdym don't know them. You just kill them. Why do I need to know them

[marsh tundra]

you need to know what they are capable of ?

[rain nova]

Why when I just gotta kill them

[marsh tundra]

otherwise you might have a bad time when you come in with a skill build and get emp + hacked

[rain nova]

I don't run skill builds

[marsh tundra]

how should i know ?

i dont know if you're tanky, if you have dps, skills, etc

[rain nova]

Even if you did why does it matter. You just point and shoot

[daring wren]

Deployable skills kill your team when they get hacked

[rugged stratus]

these you mean?
https://share.evernote.com/note/79bb4eea-c870-7860-a2c4-b764f2427a20
https://share.evernote.com/note/51fa758d-4829-205b-d0d5-f61b472eb392

[marsh tundra]

if you show your head you can get oneshot

[rugged stratus]

theyre also in the sheet

[marsh tundra]

some hunter have snipers

[rain nova]

Why can't you just wait for them to stop shooting

[marsh tundra]

cause they dont shoot if you dont peek

[slim elk]

why is hotshot hated in CD?
genuine question

[bold tiger]

i imagine you just don't do enough damage with it?

[rugged stratus]

probably ok, survivalist probably best for team. i like gunner on mine but its preference tbh

[rain nova]

You can just shoot which will make the. Shoot

[marsh tundra]

if you are both shooting you will get oneshot

not him

[rain nova]

Shoot without aiming

[bold tiger]

you take a shot they practically take your armor no matter how much you have while you're shooting plastic pellets at them

[marsh tundra]

he still can shoot you if you do that

[rugged stratus]

getting shot for being exposed is a skill issue

[marsh tundra]

also he will get closed to oneshot melee you

[rain nova]

You can run

[bold tiger]

and get shot in the back

[marsh tundra]

run = being exposed = get oneshot

[rain nova]

Why not shock or riot foam then

[marsh tundra]

see, now you're getting it

[rugged stratus]

thats what i do

[bold tiger]

how do you riot foam if you're emp'd?

[rugged stratus]

well foam anyways

[rain nova]

Grenade

[marsh tundra]

so, you're thinking about how to kill him, iunstead of just saying "dps"

[rugged stratus]

hazpro eclipse my guy.. my bread and butter right there

[rain nova]

Or just wait

[bold tiger]

they usually dodge those

[marsh tundra]

so as i said, you need to know what to do

[rain nova]

If you throw them right they will dodge into them

[rugged stratus]

is this cd hunters or open world hunters

there is a difference

[marsh tundra]

cd hunters are much easier

[bold tiger]

about only difference i see is one will disappear the other will stay and fight you

[bold tiger]

what do you consider the Summit ones? open world?

[rugged stratus]

well, open world you can prep the spawn with traps/hive before spawning

[rain nova]

Open world

[rugged stratus]

they act the same as open world

[bold tiger]

except they don't disappear right?

[rugged stratus]

if you melt thhem they do

😎

[rain nova]

I was also talking about solo btw

[bold tiger]

i know they act on the same mecahnic
but to me open world they tend to disappear if you don't kill them before whatever time limit they set for it

[rugged stratus]

but at the end of the day, hunters getting the better of an agent is a build/skill issue... its just not worth debating who is worse at hunters when you both complaining

[marsh tundra]

who's complaining ?

[bold tiger]

well, the conversation came up because someone asked about the hunters with puzzles and asked if they can be soloed

[rugged stratus]

they one shot you...

that shit

skill issue

[rain nova]

Don't let them shoot

[marsh tundra]

thats not a complaint, thats knowledge

so you should avoid that

[rugged stratus]

knowledge, first hand account of a skill issue

js

[marsh tundra]

you arent born with knwoledge, you learn by doing mistakes

[bold tiger]

i have neither, but i managed to do them on one account. what's that make me?

[marsh tundra]

you face a hunter, he os you, you learn

and then you redo the hunter, and you dont let him os you

[rugged stratus]

ones advice is always colored by ones experience

[marsh tundra]

i dont see the complain or the skill issue here

learning isnt a skill issue either

[rugged stratus]

you sound like youve had a lot more negative than positive experience with this issue

[bold tiger]

although, i think i had at least 1 person helping me with them so i was carried in killing them all for the masks

[marsh tundra]

no ?

i just talk about the negatives cause they made me learn

there is no point saying "oh yeah i killed all hunters, piece of cake hf"

where is the knowledge shared here ?

[rugged stratus]

hey, if its a good build and it wiped them easy... thats good advice

[bold tiger]

i know the moment Scorpio been put in game the hunters became pretty easy. now i don't know if it'd be the same

[marsh tundra]

but thats the thing, we dont know their build

[elfin chasm]

lol od on carnage seems fun af

[marsh tundra]

thats why im trying to tell them to learn

[elfin chasm]

infinite blood bullets for team

[marsh tundra]

idk why u think im negative or complaining or having skill iossues when im trying to teach how to kill a hunter

[rugged stratus]

yeah, i love it. get a really solid dps out of it while buffing team

[bold tiger]

like i know there are videos on it, but they're probably outdated and gives pretty much the same advice right?

[elfin chasm]

what secondary do u run?

i picked up a vector with sadist so using that for now

[marsh tundra]

havent watched them, but prob

[rugged stratus]

scorpio but i never switch to it

[bold tiger]

i imagine it's more of a "GET THE F BACK!" gun right? XD

[marsh tundra]

as i said before, the world does need more positivity

[bold tiger]

yes, before WW3 engulfs the world

[marsh tundra]

ye

[rugged stratus]

i have 1 agent with no carnage, and pesti does pretty good on it. even being non status the pesti dot still ticking at around 1m. built the same ceska vig/coyote

[elfin chasm]

yeah aint making more builds on 2nd/3rd char without leveling a watch mule first

i have less than 100 watch points left on all 3

[bold tiger]

what about your seasonal character?

[marsh tundra]

seasonal characters arent a thing

[bold tiger]

not according to rogue gold

[marsh tundra]

what he said now

[elfin chasm]

scrajj

[bold tiger]

sounds like it'll be a thing, but not as bad as we all had thought at first

[marsh tundra]

sounds like he making sht up

[bold tiger]

maybe it wasn't rogue gold

[gray terrace]

there is no seasonal agents lmao

[bold tiger]

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/1zLPLz9YsHDh806oFUUUhe/seasons-20-faq

yeah, i can't find the video i watched recently that covered it

ah ok, it was a rogue gold video but was aired 9 months ago. i didn't see that at first

[warm pawn]

why is the white death considered op?

[bold tiger]

it's the headshot damage on it

[pseudo tundra]

Part of one of the easiest and strongest combos in the game

[marsh tundra]

its not op at all

[bold tiger]

no no, put determined on it with headhunter chest and things heads goes poof even if you shoot their big toe (> <)

[marsh tundra]

any sniper can do that

[bold tiger]

svd?

[marsh tundra]

bolt action

[inner tendon]

You can do it with an 1886, let's not gatekeep.

Raucey has a rather fun video showing it off.

[bold tiger]

i can imagine. only 1886 i have though is the Virginian so i haven't gotten to try anything with it yet

[inner tendon]

There's never been a better time to cosplay as a cowboy.

[junior sequoia]

I mean, our agent codename is sheriff so...

[inner tendon]

That's just from Manny, who I 100% believe says "howdy pardna" when no one is listening.

[marsh tundra]

now im picturing him dancing in front of a mirror with cowboy boots and doing a country dance when the door is closed

[inner tendon]

He only has Rednex and Garth Brooks on his iPod.

Wait, depending on the year he might have a Zune. Yeah that tracks.

[daring wren]

Zune lmao

[inner tendon]

I just love how silly of an idea that thing was.

[marsh tundra]

good old times

back when life was easy

[iron zinc]

Any reason to keep 2 of same exotic?

[marsh tundra]

not really, except give it to another character you make

[iron zinc]

@marsh tundra what do players do when they expertise an exotic and after get the same one but btr roll

[marsh tundra]

you dont expertise a gun if its low roll, you optimize it first

[iron zinc]

And if u optimize and then get another with btr roll, what do u do

[marsh tundra]

if you optimize, you cant get a better roll

thats the point of optimizing

[true beacon]

The change they made to the explosion submachine gun is more like a buff than a nerf, right?

[marsh tundra]

explosion smg ?

[true beacon]

I don't know what it's called in English.

the one that makes you bleed when you reload

[marsh tundra]

backfire

[true beacon]

Backfire

[marsh tundra]

there is no explosion xd

and yes its a buff

[true beacon]

I already know that's what it's called in Spanish

[true beacon]

Ok thanks

[true beacon]

It's just that some names change a lot between languages.

[iron zinc]

@marsh tundra so I've been reluctant to optimize my st elmo since its heavy on resources. Figured maybe ill wait to see if i get another with btr roll or attributes. Does that make sense?

[slim elk]

You can reroll exotics if you have their blueprint and at least one exotic component

You basically need DMG to target out of cover AKA DTOC instead of crit

[iron zinc]

@slim elk Can u explain Reroll pls? And how do i get the blueprint

[slim elk]

Go to Inaya at the white house to get blueprints

in simple terms, rerolling/reconfigure works as you change the third attribute

[inner tendon]

Do you mean Reconfigure?

[slim elk]

thx I forgot the word

[inner tendon]

The amount of times I see that in the bot-log lol.

that and "bty" instead of btw.

[iron zinc]

@slim elk ah ok thx. Didn't know i can change attribute on an exotic

@marsh tundra thx

[slim elk]

you still need mats, so at the end it's worth it

[jaunty jay]

What does this pink/purple icon means?

[nimble spruce]

It's the 'shd exposed' icon - turn on the global event in the timelines tab (seasons menu) and it'll light up.

[rugged stratus]

I gotta have duplicate builds. I run projects on all 4 alts . Makes it easier and allows me to switch it up a lot. I mm alot and swap to whatever is needed regardless of the teams loadouts

I prefer full sets for each. This is including unicorn setups. I like switching mid mission and stash builds wouldn't support that. Going to the stash takes way too much time . It's really easy to farm most gear. Sometimes if it's available, I'll just craft up a set and optimize the shit out of it. Shd isnt an issue, so optimize is nothing. My only bottleneck is exotics, so thats basically what I'm grinding.

[cedar schooner]

Yeah just depends how far into the game you are IMO

[timber bronze]

Question about skill tier. if i have a skill that sticks around a while like a healing seeker mine or a turret or something and i dynamically increase my skill tier with a talent like future perfect does the skill's effectiveness calculate based off the temporary buff to my tier or does it snapshot the tier when its sent out

[wispy merlin]

no snapshotting

there are some exceptions, but in most cases there isn't snapshotting of any kind

[timber bronze]

okay so if i go from 3 to 4 on skill tier with a talent or something my seeker mine will now do its calcs based off the higher skill tier

[wispy merlin]

status effects snapshotting skill damage is the most prevalent case of snapshotting, or traps keeping the number of charges at the tier they're sent out

[timber bronze]

and same for when it drops back down

[wispy merlin]

yep

[pearl stone]

Does the pestilence actually work with the vile mask as i imagine it to on paper?

[pseudo tundra]

the talent from pestilence wont trigger the vile dot

[pearl stone]

Or does the pestilences talent not count as a status effect

[pseudo tundra]

both are debuffs

[pearl stone]

Ok i figured as much

Thank you

[pseudo tundra]

you can however do a silly build using OD, pestilence and vile to trigger 3 different dot effects on the same target

[pearl stone]

Lmfao

[broken anvil]

I am on pc, How do I use text chat?

[cedar schooner]

should be "/" by default

[inner tendon]

It's "enter" by default. / may work too, not aware of that one.

[broken anvil]

I will check there thank you!

I got it! Im newbie to the game lol

[iron zinc]

@slim elk ques for u if u don't mind. Why is DTOC btr than crit if the % is the same (I think)

[slim elk]

10% more dmg to any enemy out of cover, you can also put crit mods on gear if you're needed

[mellow trout]

Its a separate multiplier so you get way more bang for your buck

[iron zinc]

Still don't rly get it. So u can add more crit dmg on mods and on the attribute. that's great

[tough marsh]

Omg I have a fan

[elfin chasm]

im the same but for now lacking resources cause i poured everything into updating builds on main

[mellow trout]

Assuming you don't have any other sources of dttooc, the dttooc on your gun essentially is an amp to all damage

Whereas if you went crit it's additive to all your crit stats

[rugged stratus]

lately whenever i start farming a build i just farm pieces to cover 4 sets. youll have some pieces like ceska/grupo /weapons that will be utilized by a ton of builds. makes it a lot easier to farm other setups after the first set or two are built. the pita part is grinding the specs up for all 4

[pearl stone]

Im pretty sure you are fully resistant to shock at 90%, is this the same for pulse resistance?

Or do you need full 100%?

This is really helpful but i cant help but notice pulse isnt there

[rugged stratus]

ohh, beat me 😅

[elfin chasm]

which 4 sets? striker/od and what else

[pearl stone]

Why is pulse really 100, thats so miserable

[rugged stratus]

no, like 4 sets of striker, or 4 sets of OD

[slim elk]

you main mortar c'mon

[tough marsh]

Mortar main gang

[rugged stratus]

its usually just a couple countdown runs to get enough for all the alts

Mortar Supremacy

[tough marsh]

I wish, instead of grenade launcher, Demolitionist spec gives us the orbital cannon

[elfin chasm]

maybe i got bad luck

it took me like 7 countdown runs to get pieces for my 1 od set

but i was looking for like max or close to max of 1 red roll so i wouldnt have to optimize much

poor man problems

[rugged stratus]

farming the mortar for all was a bit umm.. a bit of a nightmare a lot of fun

still need a couple sets of yellow contractors tbh

[tough marsh]

Took me a few years of just randomly looting in the open world

And then Descent dropped and crafting named items has never been easier

[elfin chasm]

i actually have 2 yellow contractors from 5 years ago

[rugged stratus]

nice

[elfin chasm]

i kept in my stash xd

[rugged stratus]

now you need to farm yellow grupo

[elfin chasm]

have

[rugged stratus]

yellow sacrifice

[elfin chasm]

that i dont have

[tough marsh]

I have all 6 yellow Grupo pieces just in case I need to swap the pieces around

[elfin chasm]

im still running the old mortar build

before contractors became a thing for it

3 empress/1chinalight/2 hana u

[rugged stratus]

i saved any that dropped when i was still just using 1 agent.

[elfin chasm]

i actually didnt have to do that much farming when i came back

it was mostly optimizing stuff cause i had like 350 pieces in my stash from long ago farming

thats why im so dry on optimization stuff

[rugged stratus]

replace the empress with 2 grupo, wyvern glass/sacrifice, china, hanna force multiplier , and contractors

[elfin chasm]

yea im aware of the current build

its the one that they cooked up right as i quit, im 99% sure its still the same

thats why i have yellow contractors

but i never got to finish it back then

[rugged stratus]

that perfect combined arms is really good on mortar, even with the 3 second uptime

just need to proc before mortar hits

[elfin chasm]

the pinned guide is using china light backpack tho

[rugged stratus]

ik, look at the other pinned, btsu pca setup

what i run

for reference

pca is 10% more total skill damage

[elfin chasm]

How much of a dmg loss is it per shot

When not overcharged

Vs the other variant

I assume it be lower cause no wyvern

[rugged stratus]

with that its 10mil normal hits when all stacked on cap, with btsu oc its around 13 mil

[elfin chasm]

Interesting

Viable in legendaries?

I only ever uses mortar for summit farm long ago

There was one room on 90+ where u could spawncamp the door with it

[rugged stratus]

with the right team/solo probably, randoms, not really

[tough marsh]

Viability is subjective. Mortar doesn't have much use in Legendaries due to its TTK

Works well in enclosed spaces like DUA and Capitol Building but that's about it

[rugged stratus]

i use mine a lot running projects/missions. i get wrecked in legs with it tho, so usually just dps for those

and if were being honest, its pretty hard to f-up a mortar build. all the variants are viable in the same scenarios and it boils down to personal preference, at least for me. i like to oc , mortar is back quick regardless, and hive can be thrown as a partial in a pinch so there is a lot of flexibility in my setup.

a lot use clusters but they take forever to cooldown

[elfin chasm]

whats meta for leggy nowdays? just flat out striker dps/foam/hunter fury/od

anything else?

[snow cargo]

"meta" What you mean by meta... Not being butt.

[elfin chasm]

like what do people normally run outside of those 4

im a bit outdated as i just returned from a almost 5 year break

[snow cargo]

The things that clear the fastest still is: Strikers, Hotshots, FI and EP.

Nothing really has changed.

[elfin chasm]

hotshot for instance is new for me, didnt exist 5 years ago

neither did determined weapon talent

[snow cargo]

There's a ton of players bring refactor but doesn't help with damage...

[rugged stratus]

i dont run a lot of legs, but for me od and striker both really good for them

im not a great barometer tho. fi seput probably really useful

[elfin chasm]

im still a bit on the fence with refactor
seems like a very mid set

[snow cargo]

OD not too much for leggo but OD is great everything below.

[elfin chasm]

some ppl in my clan absolutely swear by it but it seems meh to me

[snow cargo]

The ONLY reason I think it's ok to see in my team is that how I play it's hard to heal me has a FI healer. But I also rather have that dmg buff.

I'd rather see a refactor than a weird (imo back) skill builds.

[elfin chasm]

shrug

i kinda stopped liking drone/turret awhile ago

always thought they should have made a new gearset for skills instead of making it highend meta

[snow cargo]

Yup.. I did a hybrid 6 Yellow 4 Red Skill CHC build in my noob phase.

[elfin chasm]

back when they released empress

and made rigger obsolete

[elfin chasm]

yea im fairly certain thats a hot mess

or atleast it was 5 years ago

was some youtuber build which got proven to be quite bad

[tough marsh]

Rigger was DOA

[elfin chasm]

it still was the meta for skills back then

pre empress

[snow cargo]

13 months ago. It did alright in leggo. It's much better than normal skill builds.

[elfin chasm]

my 3rd alt still has rigger for its skill build cause i never updated it lmao

[hollow trout]

is there currently no way to get the lexington ar?

[sudden matrix]

You cannot currently get it. Maybe sometime in the future.

[inner tendon]

@quick folio Rule #12.

[solar gale]

Ist there any possibilty to get the provactor chest? I guess it was from the hunt Last Season with the final Mission.

[nimble spruce]

Complete the new Parnell manhunt mission on any difficulty for a small chance, do it on Master difficulty and it's guaranteed.

[solar gale]

OK thx 🤠
Where I find the Mission, sry I'm actually come back after some years and be Not fully orientated

[nimble spruce]

Space Admin HQ, just toggle mission mode to activate the manhunt version. You have to complete it on one of the regular difficulties before you can try Master.

[solar gale]

Great thx

[nimble spruce]

There's also a hidden boss with a unique mask if you shoot all the ducks in the mission, search online for a guide

[solar gale]

Ah good to know thx

[quick folio]

THE UNICORN HAS LANDED (sry there aint no media channel)

(after a 1100 crafts)

[sudden matrix]

Now do the Habs/HSD/WH/vigi

But really I'd never suggest to craft that, they drop pretty easy from farming TL cause red core-red attributes.

[nimble spruce]

Impressive persistence, I gave up on the Hapsburg unicorns after about 200 crafts

[quick folio]

bruh i swaer, i made two mules

and used up like 65mil of credits, to keep buying ceska piece from clan vendor, salvage>craft>repeat

worst part is, now ive gotta do the same for fenris chest piece..(chc, chd, unbreakable)...

[quick folio]

Anything that requiers 2 attributes+talent, is a mess to get fr

[nimble spruce]

You must really really enjoy the pvp in this game

[quick folio]

bro, i have like 10 kills give or take in pvp

i havent touched pvp for 4 years, since i didnt have 'the build'

and i didnt wanna go in non-minmaxed xD

[broken rock]

Hi guys, I’ve just started the game again after 5 years out, just finished DC and in NY and don’t have a clue how to play properly, anyone able to help a noob like me by any chance get to grasp with everything?

[noble narwhal]

hey mate im only lvl 25, basicly in the same boat with a few extra msn's. if you wanted to play a couple of hours and just do a few msns then im down

[full crown]

You just need to find your preference with firearms, gear sets if you are unsure about it there is a pinned message with best tested gear sets

[elfin chasm]

how bad is survivability running 6 red cores on a oro gc/vigi HF build