ask-td2-community

[native wind]

most would answer go Countdown challenging, but i get maxxed mods in heroic too...

[teal hinge]

loot pools are funky used to get them all the time and now nothing

[runic rapids]

Anyone happen to know how many printer filaments you need to max out an expertise from 0?

[marsh tundra]

from 0 to max expertise with only filaments ?

[runic rapids]

Just on a single item, not everything

[marsh tundra]

on a single item, 3k filament to expertise it from 0

[runic rapids]

And you get how many from a single mod? 4?

[marsh tundra]

30 filaments will give you 10% of a lvl

[marsh tundra]

4 from a purple mod, 6 from a high end mod

so a lot is needed

[runic rapids]

So it'd be 1.35M per piece, yeesh

[marsh tundra]

you can also use scavenging points from shd watch

[marsh tundra]

yeah but you have plenty of other way to get expertise, the main one is donating gear

1 donation = 50% of a lvl

so if you donate an item, thats 150 filaments saved

and if you really cant donate, just equip it and kill stuff, it will level up slowly but surely

[runic rapids]

Oh for sure. I'm at E15 or so, but I'm just wondering out of curiosity and for weapons I don't have yet

[marsh tundra]

its a very long grind, dont focus too much on it, the longest grind will be exotic materials, that are required to upgrade an item after expertising it

[rugged stratus]

i just happen to have a category breakdown of all costs

The true cost of proficiency to hit expertise 26
(usage obviously lowers cost)

Weapons - 4440 donated items - 66,600 shd (direct pf) - 50,394 shd (mod > pf) - 666,000 printer filament.
Named/Exo gear - 1440 donated items - 21,600 shd (direct pf) - 16,344 shd (mod >pf) - 216,000 printer filament.
Brandsets - 3000 donation items - 9,000 shd (direct pf) - 6,810 shd (mod > pf) - 90,000 printer filament.
Gearsets - 2000 donated items - 6,000 shd (direct pf) - 4,540 shd (mod > pf) - 60,000 printer filament.
Skills/Spec -no donations - 14,100 shd (direct pf) - 10,669 shd (mod > pf) - 141,000 printer filament

-# (direct pf) represents cost for pf claimed through the watch
-# (mod > pf) represents cost for shd> credits> skill mods> deconstructed to pf

[marsh tundra]

yeah skills are annoying you cant donate drops

[rugged stratus]

you can make it cheaper buying skill mods with shd cash

[marsh tundra]

yeah but its very annoying to buy mods you cant buy in bulk

you have to spend 5h hours spamming space bar

[rugged stratus]

at least they self delete now. you used to have to break down every 100 or less depending on the alt

[marsh tundra]

yeah xd

[runic rapids]

Yeah skills would be the worst of it. I can start putting on an exotic as a secondary weapon to work on that

[neon frost]

whys it really hard to find people to play with on this game?, as old destiny player it felt like it was so easy to find people to play with

[sudden matrix]

I'd suggest using one of the LFG discords you are already in and joining a VC and labeling the room for whatever you are doing. Just be chill and you'll make friends.

[marsh tundra]

highly depend the content you're trying to do, countdown has the most people, summit has a lot too, the rest depends on the mission reward of the day

[neon frost]

just feels a lot less active for the EU player base compared to the US like when it starts getting towards midnight UK time the game starts popping off

[marsh tundra]

yeah most people play late

[atomic coral]

1000 levels??? Jesus

[runic rapids]

Equivalent of getting essentially 30 levels a day

[marsh tundra]

wym ?

30lvl in a day isnt 1k lvl in a week

[slim elk]

More than that. Specially talking about SHD farming with CP's. Maths are updated in my pin.

In less than 8 hours you'd hit the 1k level event cap.

[runic rapids]

30 on a normal day would yield 150 in 5x. 1000 over a week is easy if you didn't wanna grind it like crazy

Truthfully I don't like the CP farming as much, even with travel or finding PE's they're so much faster for me

Only takes one stupid armor helmet yellow to drop your stacks and then scrambling to find another weak one shot on specific CP's

[slim elk]

I'll say this again.
Travel time is key if all you want is SHD levels. This means any other LZ activity will result in a higher Travel Time and less SHD gain compared to the #1 method.

[marsh tundra]

ah you mean 30 without *5 xp

[slim elk]

Think of it this way.
Reset Control Points > Look for Public Executions > If bad luck, reset again, if there is luck, travel to that PE > Clear PE and repeat.

This method that you're opting to use is much slower if you don't get what you want.

Localdeck and many more people (including me) have tested these methods shared by Division YT and many other people that have said their way of SHD farming.

[runic rapids]

Yeah I should have elaborated. All the logic was in my head lol

There were three ideal CP's to do, but are those also optimal for the hotshot method?

I sometimes find sight lines to be so bad on some

[marsh tundra]

you can do your prefered cp but thoses 3 are especially close to a safehouse

for time efficiency

but if you dont care about time, you do you man, we aint your boss

[runic rapids]

Oh absolutely, I'm all about min maxing my efforts

I know I'll get the 1k, just a matter of how fast lol

[slim elk]

Just not Navy Plaza, so goddamn far spawns after "Defend the Control Point".

[runic rapids]

Yeah, they spawn really far away

Not bad for the sniping aspect but the waves are so slow

Also the demo site is awful

[slim elk]

ugh, avoid Hyena CP's at all costs.

[runic rapids]

I think those are the enemies. It's the females with the helmets and elite, always drop the combo lol

True Sons are pretty good though I find

[marsh tundra]

i prefer outcasts

cause they dont got a fkin helmet guy except the chungas

[slim elk]

Locations are pinned in this channel 😆

[marsh tundra]

at least true sons helmet guy stay away and still, the helmet guy in the last faction is a fkin rusher and its worse

[runic rapids]

Yeah

I'll have to try one on Outcasts to see how it flows. Maybe I just remember the ones that go really poorly lol

Silly question, just got the chatterbox, crafted one, but Inaya isn't selling the blueprint. How can I go about recongifuring it?

[marsh tundra]

if you crafter it..... thats with a blueprint

i dont understand

[runic rapids]

Yeah, it's weird. It says I need to own the blueprint by purchasing it from Inaya to reconfigure

First time this has happened before with an exotic

[marsh tundra]

try closing the game and logging back on

[runic rapids]

Even though I have one in my inventory now

[marsh tundra]

might be just a bug

[runic rapids]

Yeah that was my next thing to try

Could be a sync issue or something

@marsh tundra yep there we go, I can buy it from her now. Such a weird thing to happen

[marsh tundra]

neat

[heady tendon]

I'll say those 3/4 CP North West near the safe house are pretty good for sniper because they have no helmet and you can get a nice sight of line for each CP

[rugged stratus]

sleeping giant is your friend here. rarely helmets and if so it mean 2 shots with 1 actually aimed. first will break the helmet and stagger so picking up the second shot to finish the npc shouldnt be an issue. if speed leveling isnt prefered, then it doesnt matter what you grind xp with, all will show gains

[runic rapids]

For sure, SG seems like the best option out of all of them

[rugged stratus]

outcasts rarely have helmets. black tusk ok, but they got chungas, true son got the gunners with helmets and grenade big boys that are no fun... the worst is when you burning through hyenas cp/activity and it spawns double red hyena rushers to come eff up your day

[marsh tundra]

Blzck tusk dont have CP

I wonder why tho

[runic rapids]

Just give me white tusk CP, 1M each lol

[marsh tundra]

U wish

[rugged stratus]

they do sometimes, usually for manhunt

[atomic coral]

Hopefully in brooklyn

Surely it won't just be rikers and cleaners again

Though was there ever a cleaner presence in brooklyn

[runic rapids]

Hunters CP go brr

[marsh tundra]

Oh for réal ? I misses that, I only saw cleaners and riker I think take control of Washington cps

[wispy merlin]

yeah they did take CPs during black tusk-focused manhunts

[marsh tundra]

Imagine if we could have legendary cp

Thatd be dope

[marsh tundra]

I guess I misses them

[cedar yacht]

Legendary open world 🗿

[wispy merlin]

i would finally cry happy tears

[runic rapids]

I was going to ask, has that ever been brought up or asked for? I'm surprised you can't get Legendary events

[wispy merlin]

everyone has been asking for it

[marsh tundra]

Thatd be something to deal with lol

[wispy merlin]

but no they limit it to strongholds and summit

[runic rapids]

Legendary open world would be fighting for you life lol

The most meta would be used lol

[marsh tundra]

I should start doing some legendary someday

But I dont have à build yet

[wispy merlin]

can't wait to spawn camp white tusk from some manholes

[marsh tundra]

Rn my builds are shit and not even got expertise

And I still miss some gear like I havent done ih raid

Or that fkin vile mask

[cedar yacht]

Huh? How long have you been playing this game?

[sudden matrix]

Too friggen long

[hardy latch]

Next week they'll refresh the Nyx missions so you can get 100% right?

Or do you have to do the Hyena/True Sons thing this week to finish?

[sleek cedar]

does anyone know if cross progression is in the division 2? I'm trying to link my pc and xbox accounts

[hardy latch]

No, no cross progression.

[sleek cedar]

Awwwwwwwwww

[slim elk]

Yeah it sucks, I'm planning to move to PS and it'll be a pain to get everything back.
Hopefully cross-save/play will be available in Div3

[slim elk]

but I'm also planning to keep Division on a series S just so I don't have to worry about getting bored in PS

[cedar yew]

are there any raid exclusive loot still

if so where do i look for raid groups

[inner tendon]

@cedar yew #lfg-raid-pc/GCrock/community server is where you look for them, and yeah pretty much the Raid-locked guns are still Raid locked, you can just get some of them from the DZ, but the chance is so absurdly low that it's not worth the trip, just get them from the Raids.

[cedar yew]

gotcha

i just returned to the game last time i played was back in warlords of new york launch

is there a source of some kind that i can check for current end game builds and how to get them and such

way too much stuff changed it seems like and im quite lost

[atomic coral]

Check the pinned messages in #td2-build-advice

I wouldn't really rely on youtube builds honestly

[cedar yew]

are they still updating the spreadsheet?

last changelog seems to be 7 months old

[slim elk]

Last gearsets are pretty niche and haven't been added to the spreadsheet

[cedar yew]

okay

[slim elk]

almost everything is still the same, if not everything

[heady tendon]

Well, initially Black Tusk was in the White House. Their "CP" now are Pentagone, Tidal and Camps White Oak.

[marsh tundra]

Yeah that's mission not cp

[rancid dirge]

So, sleigher glitch affects regular weapons now too? Getting 1 shorted in the DZ with a sleigher lol.

[marsh tundra]

What glitch ?

[marsh holly]

Something related to festive delivery and sleighter

[rancid dirge]

Before it was shock traps turning into grenades. Now I am seeing guys shoot from the sleigher, and 2 seconds later I get onshoted from an all blue build.

[rancid dirge]

Now I got all they guys from Australia I sometimes see on an Asian server

[lunar osprey]

Not exactly "one shot", it still tons of explosion but you see no vfx and no reaction time

[teal hinge]

Deflector ballsitic shield.... how do i make it better the enemies dont really shoot they just run sometimes....

[tiny stump]

mosquito exotic pistol maybe

[teal hinge]

frustrating challenge sometimes works sometimes doesnt

[marsh tundra]

tbh thoses challenges are not wroth doing

its faster/better to just xp and get the star

[teal hinge]

thanks for backing up my thoughts on it

[marsh holly]

Is brazen on acs 12 gonna be good for striker? If not what tallent you recommend? And yes, i have lefty

[sudden matrix]

Doesn't matter really.

If you want it to matter you need to be specific on what you are using it for and case by case will have a different one be more useful.

"I just stack with it" okay well then are you using the striker chest or not? Do you only have 1 enemy you'd like to stack on? Do you get only 1-2 kills? Boss burns??

If you don't care about any of this then use whichever one.

[marsh holly]

Standard striker with coyote and ceska vest. Mainly uae it in countdown. But my acs is with in-sync from the times when shield and in-sync worked

So my question is: is gonna hit harder or the difference is not that big?

[sudden matrix]

Brazen is big damage.

[marsh holly]

So it's better?

[sudden matrix]

Probably the best damage talent by far if you want to do damage with an ACS.

[marsh holly]

How about compared to flatline in a HB build?

[wispy merlin]

more damage

[sudden matrix]

Brazen is a lot more if you are in range to hit all pellets.

[marsh holly]

Got you. Brazen it is from now on. Thank you sir

[turbid igloo]

I'd also run if a dude who reflects every bullet i shot was running in my direction

[heady tendon]

Or be more skilled than him and aim for his head

[turbid igloo]

That's the last thing I'd think about whenever someone is rushing to me

[teal hinge]

LOL

[heady tendon]

Marksman here so I need to headshot

So I headshot

Took the habit to do it

Saved my ass numerous time

[sturdy thorn]

hey, playing with a friend, we just talke to the snitch and walked to the textiles vendor but he only has inventory for me and nothing showing for my friend, why?

we've had it before with Cassie too

[marsh tundra]

your friend has to find the snitch too

[sturdy thorn]

yeah we both spoke to him, then did my bounty (as I spoke to him second) - is that why?

[wispy merlin]

the bounty doesn't matter

[sturdy thorn]

ah ok good to know

another question, do any sets have specific drop locations e.g. set A only drops in raid B?

or can everything drop everywhere?

[wispy merlin]

only sets that are limited like that is system corruption and yaahl gear

they're mostly for pvp, and exclusive to dz

[sturdy thorn]

hmm ok

what about NYC vs DC?

[wispy merlin]

no such thing

enemy factions are but that's to be expected

[sturdy thorn]

ok good

and it's possible to set specific targeted loot in... summit?

[wispy merlin]

yes

[sturdy thorn]

only summit?

[wispy merlin]

countdown as well

[inner tendon]

Countdown will be faster to get it, but Summit has Directives so you can tweak the chance.
Overall: CD > Summit.

[sturdy thorn]

lovely thank you both

[vague heron]

Is DZ dead ?

[marsh tundra]

not really

[vague heron]

cuz i can not find anyone

[inner tendon]

Canonically, yes.

[marsh tundra]

we dont talk about that

[atomic coral]

Depends whats your shd level

1000+ has people normally

[frosty inlet]

I guess I should put this here

Does anyone have any idea as to how Vindicator’s rolls on sale work? I’m aware that they differ across characters and change on daily refresh, but I’ve also heard that they have a limited stat pool they can roll with weekly.

[turbid igloo]

[signal lily]

Regarding duration with the Sniper turret
Does a higher duration do anything for it? I don't know if it runs off a basic duration like most other skills or if it runs off ammo count

[wispy merlin]

it makes it stay longer?

it has duration AND ammo count

[kind cove]

Do weapon damage cores increase specialization weapons

[wispy merlin]

some of them yeah

[kind cove]

Wish ones

[wispy merlin]

i think the exclusions are the technician rocket launcher and demolitionist grenade launcher

[kind cove]

Damn

I wanted to do some goofy stuff with the demo

[teal hinge]

Ive asked before i wanna double check, the sweet dreams shotgun is part of the normal loot pool? but the lullaby is part of the deluxe pack

havent seen sweet dreams drop despite target looting it and running dcd headquarters mission

[mellow trout]

Yes

Sweet dreams is in general loot pool but lullaby is exclusive to deluxe pack

Best bet is countdown targeting shotguns

[teal hinge]

iill buy it after i see it drop

for some reason i cant convert my 1 lvl ruthless to lvl 40

[mellow trout]

There's a gearscore requirement

You need to convert a merciless to a ruthless

[heady tendon]

It's the same shot gun but with different skin. The same can be said with Merciless (forgot his name for the counter part). You can go in the expertise search for Lullaby and when you want to give ressource, Sweet Dream should display.

Edit: removed Tsunami/Enforcer. My bad

[mellow trout]

Enforcer and tsunami have different base guns

Super 90 and SASG

[heady tendon]

😮

log in to check real quick

My bad

You are right

[teal hinge]

Its been so long this spot reminds of the first division somehow a place where shotgun ads would rush you constantly

anyone remember it?

this place is part of the secret side missions

[heady tendon]

Maybe it's the same asset but since Div 1 is in NY and Div 2 in Washington DC, it can't be the same place

[junior cave]

Agents! Can you remind me, which CPs are best to farm for xp besides Sinking Hole and Sleeping Giant?

That one below Castle settlement count as good too, right? Any other?

[slim elk]

The Choke

Those are the closest to a safe house

[junior cave]

Good, thank you.

[runic rapids]

Reset my map and focusing on Outcast activities, it's so much easier to keep the Headhunter/Determined shenanigans lol

[lapis ibex]

So last night I finished the power plant mission finally but my friend got carried away and we left the mission before I could pick up the new exotic. When I tried to do the mission again I saw that the gun was not part of the loot for finishing the mission anymore. Is there another way I can try to pick up the gun? Is it now part of the overall loot pool?

[manic ice]

Is there a blueprint for ceska chest piece?

[cedar schooner]

sadly no

[cedar schooner]

should be

[inner tendon]

@glass isle As this is a channel for asking questions about div2, you'd have to ask down in #survival

[signal lily]

Does anyone know when its safe to go to New York? I know boosting takes you past all the main mission stuff and more or less everything, but what precisely does "everything" entail? I'm level 40 and have beaten Tidal Basin, most of the basic stuff like that I think. If I boost,will it go past the Specialization unlock challenges, or any side missions I haven't done like Coney Island or Pentagon Breach?
If anyone answers, please ping me!

[slim elk]

Just use the Fast Travel point in the map, not the boost if it's not a new character.

[signal lily]

But you can't go to NY without activating WONY because that's what NY is?-

[rugged stratus]

On top of that they come equipped with little running molotov cocktails to give you some free aoe damage 🔥

[runic rapids]

Any but helps

[heady tendon]

New York is doable at level 30 (even with trash build) you just need a powerfull weapon and play with cover. You are on story mode so it's really easy if you are carefull of your environnement. NPC spawn from anywhere and way more regulary than DC.
Doing Pentagone and other side mission will give you experience how to deal which different faction.

[mellow trout]

You don't need to boost if you're level 40 lol

What level are you boosting to😭

Talk to the pilot at the white house

[rugged stratus]

Tbf anything wony , outside of liberty island mission, can be completed with a basic turret/drone skill build (afk).
And it's only the end of liberty you would need a dps build

[mellow trout]

I'm getting flashbacks to that one guy that blamed the game he couldn't do it with turret + drone

[wispy merlin]

recruiter manhunt redditor

[narrow kraken]

jefferson trade center with the chopper white oak johnson i forget ?

there's a coherent sentence in there somewhere

[sleek knot]

So just finished the first rouge
Is keener not rouge anymore and are we teaming up with him?

[narrow kraken]

he wears mostly black, so no

[cedar schooner]

lol

[supple monolith]

just finished warlords of new york, what do i do now? whats the next thing to do to lead up to first rogue (but it ended i think?)?

[narrow kraken]

season doesnt end for 2 weeks or more

[supple monolith]

oh how do i do the first rogue then?

[cedar yacht]

Change Manhunt

[supple monolith]

how do you do that?

[cedar yacht]

Idr since its been a while Ive played

[rugged stratus]

mission difficulty > hold g , repeat till desired mission mode is active

[serene yoke]

How do I farm SHD levels faster im at 363 and trying to hit 750 or least 1000

[slim elk]

Check last 📌

[teal hinge]

what a journey... so now ill just get scavenging material?

[slim elk]

Yeah

[marsh tundra]

what are you trying to activate ? if you bought a key thats what you should put in there

[wispy merlin]

bro left

[marsh tundra]

lmao

whad a chad

come in server, ask a question, doesnt wait for answer, leave without elaborating

[loud saddle]

so how many times does one have to complete the final manhunt mission (for this season) for all the collectibles? is it 3? (I didn't pay enough attention to see if we got 1 or 2 collectibles per completion)

[wide bay]

1 play through + 3 replays. If you’re still missing a com just run it again

[loud saddle]

damn, 4 total? oof, aight. thanks for clarifying, knew it took multiples runs but didn't know if it was multiples collectibles obtained at end or only one. aight, off to run it a few more times, lol.

[marsh tundra]

replay it on normal to go faster imo

[loud saddle]

yeah, just gonna do that, it's just for the collectibles anyways now

[marsh tundra]

yeah

im still missing some comms from previous manhunt but the game doesnt give them to me now idk why

im missing some from puppeteers and anderson

[near dome]

Hello i got the watch after finished new york i done everything but not the bounties in each safe house, and i seen and talked with everybody, but i cant use my watch,

[full crown]

After you finish NY you need to go back to the white house Washington have you done that?

[marsh tundra]

@tiny fox

[tiny fox]

thats a different game

im playing the actual r6

[marsh tundra]

please

look at the discord name

[tiny fox]

ok

where is he main game

the

[marsh tundra]

this is the main game

this is the division 2 discord

not r6, you're in the wrong discord

[tiny fox]

this one

[inner tendon]

I'd be more shocked if this was the first time this week someone asked for 'Siege advice on this server.
@tiny fox The games are not related at all, not even a little.

[tiny fox]

ohhhh

[marsh tundra]

i mean there is tom clancy in the name

but thats about it

[inner tendon]

Tom Clancy died before either of the games came out, thankfully.

[marsh tundra]

yeah, poor guy

[inner tendon]

Disagree, but regardless: not related.

[willow gale]

why? the whole china india thing or being a republican?

or something else i dont know of

[inner tendon]

General bigotry, nutbarness, etc, etc.
This super isn't relevant to div2 though, so I'mma end my part here.

[willow gale]

fair enough, just curious

[narrow kraken]

the fu?

[inner tendon]

@serene pagoda English only on the main server, thanks.
You can use other languages in any channel that has the word "LFG" or "clan" in the name.

[eternal vine]

I just got a coyote mask from a cache. Should I still try and farm to get maxed stats or just focus on my library and recalibrate?

[mellow trout]

Doesn't need to be maxed to be good

[rugged stratus]

use what you got, if its close to max just optimize. if not close, use it till a better drops

[eternal vine]

Alr

[teal hinge]

Whats missing? the descent gun?

[inner tendon]

Unless I'm mistaken, it's the other shotgun.
Lullaby/Sweet Dreams.

[slim elk]

How do you actually get exos to show there?

I only have 2

[heady tendon]

Most of them are project exotics

[mellow trout]

The ones on the firing range wall are all the DC ones including eagle bearer

[heady tendon]

Diamond Back: finish Keenly College
Liberty, Chatterbox, Nemesis are project

[slim elk]

How come my eagle 🍔 does not appear there

[heady tendon]

Eagle Bearer drop on raid

Merciless/Ruthless are on drop

Same for Lullaby/Sweet Dream

[mellow trout]

Probably something to do with stash or character

[eternal vine]

to recalibrate exotic do you have to do the craft thingo for it to reroll then max out the attribute?

[heady tendon]

recalibrate reroll all the stat

[eternal vine]

that wont be annoying at all, especially with all of the exotic components

[heady tendon]

save those exotic components for expertise

[eternal vine]

how do i reroll without them?

[heady tendon]

you don't

just drop the same exotics at level 40

[eternal vine]

ahhh well my st elmos engine is currently expertise 1

but its got swap speed and damage to health so

[heady tendon]

drop another one with the stat you are searching

swap speed are not the best attribute

[eternal vine]

yeah

more countdown is always fun

[turbid igloo]

I tried shooting it thinking "oh it's not that bad right" it is, it really is.

[eternal vine]

i just dropped another st elmos engine with assult rifle damage, damage to health and crit chance is there any rolls i want instead?

[wispy merlin]

dttooc instead of crit chance

the first 2 are always the same

[eternal vine]

ohh ok ty

[stuck frigate]

What is this Mooncake event mentioned in Server status?

[runic rapids]

Nobody knows yet

[stuck frigate]

Thank you 🙂

[summer canyon]

It's an in-game event set to start today. And where the named pistol Harvest comes from

[barren maple]

Think the moon cake festival is also called the harvest festival iirc

[kind cove]

Tomorrow for Americans

[summer canyon]

Right

I'm on GMT+4

[narrow kraken]

I am a mooncake/bean cake enjoyer, and I thought it was weird that they would call something that in the Western market

[heady tendon]

I love mooncake. My grand ma used to do them.

[mellow trout]

I'm not a big fan but it looks pretty

[rancid dirge]

Pre update:

So if the update is to launch this event that’s active before the update, what’s the actual update for?

[atomic coral]

Fixes ig

[soft inlet]

"fixes". By fix you mean fix a damage glitch, no years old bugs, then break other crucial parts of the game and spend the next 4 months trying to play catch-up with fixing all the new things broken lol

There's nothing I fear more than division 2 updates 😵‍💫

[atomic coral]

I'm not naiive lmao

Thats just the reality of bug fixing

Fix one thing another 10 things break

[limber crest]

server open??

[heady tendon]

not yet

2h delay

[near dome]

Yes its up

[mint zodiac]

is descent down?

[wispy merlin]

yeah, it goes down

[mint zodiac]

nvm it working now, had to relog

[rugged stratus]

Harmony rifle available at CD vendor this week. dz exclusive

[heady tendon]

No way, you hold too much power

joke aside I'm about to leave so sorry if I got you up

[slim elk]

How much time is left for 5x?

[narrow kraken]

it hasnt started

[marsh tundra]

2 weeks before it start

[slim elk]

I meant how much until. I'm not thinking clearly

[runic rapids]

9 days

[slim elk]

ty

[signal lily]

Anyone know what the chances of an exotic part drop are? I'm trying to shoot for the Nemesis rifle, and apparently there's a chance the barrel part can drop from the invaded National Zoo mission on hard difficulty or above

[marsh tundra]

its supposed to be 100%

make sure you match the requirements

[wispy merlin]

it's 100% to drop one of your missing parts

if you have only 1 missing then you'll get it from invaded zoo

[signal lily]

Well I only have the scope and stock, I'm missing barrel and bolt, (and blueprint) that's 2 parts I'm missing

[wispy merlin]

you'll get one of them from zoo

which one is rng

the good news is if you have the blueprint you can farm targeted loot for it

[signal lily]

Looking at the wiki, it says I can get the barrel from the zoo

[signal lily]

I do not but that's good to know

[wispy merlin]

don't trust the wiki for most stuff tbh

you'll get one random missing part

[signal lily]

Damn, alright, well thanks for answering

[signal lily]

Question
How does that work, farming targeted loot need for a blueprint? Is it something in Summit?

[wispy merlin]

nemesis is one of the exotics that you need the blueprint to be able to farm for it in targeted loot

[signal lily]

Right, I get that, but let's say I have the blueprint
How do I farm targeted loot for it?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, I don't know a lot about Division 2

[wispy merlin]

you know what targeted loot is first?

[signal lily]

Yeah

[wispy merlin]

then you can change the targeted loot category in summit or countdown to MMR to farm it

[signal lily]

Okay, thank you!

[fathom agate]

Did two of the projects towards the new clothes that came out today.

The next project was the first actual mission.

Was showing I could complete it to get the next piece of clothing

now it's just vanished and saying completed, lol.

Grand Central Station I think? whatever one is right there in downtown east

[lament widget]

im trying to farm the catharsis, is summit or countdown better?

[cedar yacht]

Countdown

[marsh minnow]

Do I have to do both the main story quest and the expansion to be able to participate in the event?

[manic mason]

I have no Mooncake in my Projects menu, how do I add it?

[mellow trout]

What level are you

[manic mason]

SHD 668

[stuck frigate]

So uhh, I need to liberate the MLK for the Mooncake, but I've already done it before the event, so it's liberated, I remember I could reset the control points, but how again?

(been awhile)

[marsh tundra]

press z

[stuck frigate]

I think i'm too low level to reset. I don't see global settings, either. Thank you though!

[marsh tundra]

oh yeah you need to be lvl 40 iirc

[manic mason]

Thanks, it's there now. I was going through Progression then selecting Projects. I should have just go to the map select Projects

[slow lagoon]

so there is no way to do the event below lvl 40? :c

[rugged stratus]

events are basically endgame. 40 with shd watch is endgame now with the 1 endgame update

[marsh tundra]

you shouldnt bother too much with anything before 40 tbh

[slow lagoon]

i just wanted the rest of the cool outfit

[naive nova]

my friend just completed WONY and his watch isnt showing up is that why i cant join or inv him?

[inner tendon]

If they finished the campaign, did they go talk to the various folks in Haven? All the vendors have at least one conversation, sometimes more.

[naive nova]

quartermaster, rhodes and b something right?

[inner tendon]

Benitez, yeah. The guy that sounds like he's eating mashed potatoes.

I'm pretty sure Rhodes is the one who talks to you to unlock the watch. It's been a minute since I've ran it.

[naive nova]

they for some reason changed it thats why he didnt get the watch

[sudden matrix]

Isn't it just the quatermaster in the whitehouse now?

[inner tendon]

I honestly have no idea, I don't need to run alts anymore.
I should try a 31-40 via DC, sounds like fun.

[teal hinge]

yeah i put that in the wrong chat was meant to be my clan discord.... image if there were no field recon blueprints etc....

[teal hinge]

waiting for 5x xp event

[clear wren]

Does anyone else don't get rewards for a daily hard mission? The one with a white dashed circle outline. No matter how many times I complete it, it stays outlined and no rewards whatsoever

[teal hinge]

old blueprints from other seasons they ever drop?

[rugged stratus]

doubt. named items get added to descent sometimes though

[rugged stratus]

do you have a screenshot of it?

[heady tendon]

Hello

Is there a way to mitigate the light blinding effect ?

[rugged stratus]

be status/blind immune

[heady tendon]

Same can be said for the fog

[rugged stratus]

oic, idk

[heady tendon]

I mean fighting in a room shouldn't creating a thight fog were you can't see at 5 meter

[clear wren]

Screenshot of what, exactly? Map, mission settings, completion moment?

[rugged stratus]

there are a few annoying environmental factors. dust is pretty crappy too

[heady tendon]

Yeah, I was wondering if there was some graphique tips to town down a little bit

It feel like we are walking through a fog of dust that light blind completly

[rugged stratus]

project/mission. you dont mention a mission name and not sure if you \are refering to tombs. strandad tanker, or possible league hard missions...

if its dcd headquarters- league, for example, you would have to mode switch to non invaded to make it register... more info is better to give good answers

[clear wren]

got it, this one

[rugged stratus]

do you have the season pass?

[sudden matrix]

If you can't do that "daily hard mission" because it's part of the season pass(which is a paid thing btw) and it doesn't mention that, that's dumb.

[clear wren]

no, and no way to connect this two things, because it's not mentioned anywhere that I need to have season pass. Thanks a lot, now I know

[nova ore]

What do you guys think about Glory Daze AR?

[sudden matrix]

I think it's amazing if you wanna shoot OXY across the map.

[atomic coral]

Honestly I always wondered what was meant by that

No clue why it shows up without season pass

[marsh tundra]

why are some item marked store purchase only and other arent but both are premium credits only ?

some apparel have the same description but some can be bought with textiles and others cant

whats the logic ? if there is any

like even some outfit have half of it aviable in textiles and the rest isnt lol

[inner tendon]

A while ago the store was changed around so a bunch of stuff that was available via Textiles no longer is.

As for why it's the case now: it encourages people to spend money to complete the outfit. Live-service games 101 is: make the player want the rest of the thing.

[marsh tundra]

yeah, but its so bad

at least give us fancy skins

not the same boring 80th recolor

[inner tendon]

MSV have (mostly) stuck with the style div2 has, and I'm very glad they haven't gone full CoD with the equivalent of a Snoop Dogg voice pack or whatever it is.

[marsh tundra]

no but like some more fancy skins would have been cool, like the hood like keener have would be great, but there is just 1 outfit that doesnt it, so its kinda bad

there is some fancy stuff, but its VERY limited

[rocky veldt]

does anyone know the best way to obtain status effect and skill damage mods?

[marsh tundra]

TL mods

you cant chose which one you'll get, but you can choose gear or skill mods

the pool is huge tho

[rocky veldt]

wow didn't even know you could target mods thanks

[novel moon]

camping checkpoints is a major issue

turrets are useless

[marsh tundra]

they arent, they let you get out/inside the cp without dying

[novel moon]

against rogues they are useless

[marsh tundra]

no, they arent

[novel moon]

yeah they kinda are

[marsh tundra]

try going rogue, and see

[novel moon]

the point of turrets is to stop rogue spawn camping

my picture illustrates the failure of the turrets

because theres a giant ass truck

blocking most of the checkpoint

[marsh tundra]

it doesnt tho, you spawned and you are alive

it mean spawn point is safe

[novel moon]

youre fine with people being unable to exit the spawns?

[marsh tundra]

you could spawn, you can leave

[novel moon]

tf is this supposed to mean then? @marsh tundra

oooh hold up youre one of them arent you?

[marsh tundra]

it mean thats a skill issue man, i can walk in and out with no pb

[novel moon]

"yOu CaN lEaVe"

[marsh tundra]

also if you cant move, just dc ?

its easy

it put you in cp and you dont even leave cover

litterally you dont even have to move

[marsh tundra]

bruh

[novel moon]

that fact that your glazing the guy whose parked right ouside of alpha cp kinda suggests that

alright i have a suggestion: checkpoint turrets one shot rogues

doenst impact dz gameplay and rogues dont park themselves right outside of checkpoints

[marsh tundra]

man, i gave you 2 exit for the cp

what more u want

[novel moon]

a way to play dz without being harrassed by spawn camping rogues?

[lone prairie]

you can juste go back and tp to another spawn...

[marsh tundra]

thats the point of dz man, rogues

if you dont want to face rogues, dont go dz

[novel moon]

not rogues camping rightoutside of checkpoints

[marsh tundra]

yes, even rogues camping

[novel moon]

give me a source on that

[marsh tundra]

the game ?

[novel moon]

dz turrets existing kinda disproves that

[marsh tundra]

not their placement since they cant stay there

[novel moon]

game devs dont want rogues camping checkpoints but the turrets are frankly useless

[marsh tundra]

man, what do you know about devs and what they want ?

whats your source they dont want rogues on cp

[novel moon]

the turrets existing?

[marsh tundra]

turret doing no damage and useless ?

yeah, good source bro

[novel moon]

because devs forgot the the power creep?

intention =/= execution

[marsh tundra]

oh yeah, you know what devs wanted to do and what devs failed to do ofc

[novel moon]

again, intention =/= execution

[marsh tundra]

and again, you know their intentions and execution right ?

[novel moon]

turrets existing showcase devs intention to keep rogues out of dz

them being bad just means poor execution

[marsh tundra]

sure bud

go tell the devs they sure need to hear that

[novel moon]

the fact that the turrets only target rogues kinda suggest that

[marsh tundra]

yeah they also target npc

xd

[novel moon]

look @marsh tundra if youre a guy that does that just say it. no need to glaze them indirectly

[marsh tundra]

does what ?

[novel moon]

camp checkpoints

[marsh tundra]

i dont even go dz xd

bruh

not everyone that disagree with you is your enemy

i gave you 2 exits

[novel moon]

and one of them is disconnecting

not a good exit

[marsh tundra]

it is

[novel moon]

and what was the second one?

[marsh tundra]

the door

[novel moon]

right and i get one shotted trying to get back to the door

[marsh tundra]

you cant

[novel moon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Division2/comments/1b5vumj/getting_one_shotted_in_dark_zone/

[marsh tundra]

deleted post

[novel moon]

read the comments

[marsh tundra]

thats your claim you cant do it ?

[novel moon]

read the comments?

[marsh tundra]

which one ?

[novel moon]

first one

[marsh tundra]

bruh just say it

[novel moon]

"Because of chainkiller/determined builds yea it can happen"

one click

[marsh tundra]

one click what ?

[novel moon]

"Probably glass cannon instead of Chainkiller but yeah. Hard to take advantage of Chainkiller in the DZ, especially if you can’t keep the stacks active due to time between engagements. Good for npcs but not necessary in the dz, a determined sniper headshot build with glass cannon will still kill just about every npc in one shot."

[novel moon]

it took me one click to go the reddit post

[marsh tundra]

yeah a deleted one

i can do that too

still useless

[novel moon]

ignorant ass

you dont even need a reddit account to see comments

[marsh tundra]

i saw comments

none support your claim

[lone prairie]

you can kill the guy to

[novel moon]

that you can get one shotted in dark zone?

[inner tendon]

I don't care who started this, tone it down.

[marsh tundra]

yeah im going to bed anyway

gn agents

[novel moon]

gn

anyways is there a suggestion board rivens?

[inner tendon]

The best way to get in contact with the devs is via a support ticket or twitter, they pay closer attention to here during the PTS (in the PTS specific channel), but outside of that not really, no.

[novel moon]

ok thanks

[cedar yacht]

Headhunter scales poorly in pvp/dz so its mainly pgc and determined

But getting spawned camp by door isn’t the biggest issue dz has lol

[novel moon]

It isn’t the biggest issue but it’s an issue that can be fixed simply by make turrets one shot

[rigid echo]

I last played in February anything big happen since thats worth coming back?

[kind cove]

5x xp event

Season reveal tomorrow

[rigid echo]

is that it?

[kind cove]

Meh, nothing has come out that isn’t super crazy

Keener is back in lore, that’s about the most important thing to happen

[rigid echo]

any new content to do, like I already got the best gear and was waiting for something new, still same meta?

[kind cove]

Same meta

And truthfully I don’t think it will change with the next season

[rigid echo]

strikers + st elmos?

[kind cove]

Elmos was never meta its just very easy to use

[rigid echo]

true

[rigid echo]

whats the best way to farm xp?

[kind cove]

Just open world activities with directives

[slim elk]

Check last 📌.

[cedar yacht]

I mean they already kinda do? Personally if you can successfully spawn people far enough to not trigger turrets then it’s fair play. Or the guy is cheating who knows.

[mellow trout]

Mfw invaded DZ:

[inner tendon]

Can you not just TP to another entrance?

[mellow trout]

Not if you wanna keep your loot

[cedar yacht]

you can im pretty sure

You just can tp from the dz

I could be wrong

[inner tendon]

If you're in the entrance, aren't you either dead or just entering anyway?

Unless you specifically ran from Rogues and managed to get all the way to an entrance.

[mellow trout]

Well you can but you lose your stuff

I wonder if you can log off and it'll still be there though

[rocky compass]

ive done that before and have kept my items

theres been a couple updates since the last time ive done that though so just food for thought

[dense basalt]

Ye you can log off and keep loot

[heady tendon]

Is there a way to reduce the number of Named aside playing on Challenger ?
Trying to get the right torso and back pack in Hasbourgard (which aren't the named) but I get half of those (or more) as named

I'm playing on heroic for expectise

[mellow trout]

In countdown?

[heady tendon]

In summit

But that doesn't change, even on open world I get way too much Named from TL Hasbourguard

[marsh tundra]

anyone knows how to get puppeteers comms ? im at 25/33 and nothing seems to be working, doing the manhunt mission gives no comms, and the insurance puzzle doesnt work at all

[sudden matrix]

I mean if these are the "chest" and "backpack" you are probably looking for it's not really worth the effort to farm them tbh. The difference using these or normie items isn't any different when looking at breakpoints.

[heady tendon]

I don't want the named

[sudden matrix]

I know you want unicorn items that aren't actually better than items that are much easier to farm.

[heady tendon]

I want to have 15% weapon damage, 10% HSD, 8% Handling and headhunter or vigilance

[sudden matrix]

FYI these are UNICORN items, good luck farming them.

Cause most people are unaware that the DEFAULT core influences the attributes so your more likely to see blue attributes on these items.

[heady tendon]

I know those are unicorn item

And I already have the other easier gear farmed already

doing 30/40M damages when stacked with my MMR build

I just realise that more than half of my chest or backpack are named item

[runic rapids]

I can't even imagine the pain of farming that. I'm just trying to find a Sokolov with double crit backpack and I'm struggling lol

[sudden matrix]

Most people go the crafting route. When habs is at a vendor they will restock and craft more.

[runic rapids]

Unfortunately can't craft Sokolov backpack

But it's targeted loot today. not in a great location but more accessible than investing into a countdown game

[heady tendon]

I'm still farming the piece for the crafting part

[heady tendon]

Hasbourg guard always drop a blue core

that's why I need all the other right (and **** those named)

[nimble spruce]

As soulless said, crafting is the way to go, buy a ton of haps pieces from a vendor and dismantle them for parts, then you can craft all the (regular, non named) chests and backpacks you can afford

[sudden matrix]

There is nothing you can do to avoid the named items while farming drops from habs. Hopefully your luck will be good and you'll get one quickly. Most people craft 1-2k backpacks and farm countless hours. I only have one vigi habs backpack with HSD and health and it took like 800 crafts.

[rugged stratus]

just to reiterate, the habs pieces are more min/max items but dont actually take you to a significantly higher damage output. youll kill the same npcs with the walker /airaldi chest/bag as you would with 2x habs.... since hsd wont matter at all on a build thats completely stacked with hsd, you essentially gain 5% specific weapon damage with habs over walker/airaldi combo. itll be more gain on a 321 setup, but still a complete waste of time

[nimble spruce]

rebalance pass next season too, might be worth seeing if there are any changes before spending too much time farming

[marsh tundra]

you can farm everything just to be sure

thats what i did, i have every gun

[heady tendon]

I almost finished expertising (missing 3 riffles at 4, 8, 6 mastering) and at level 26.
I have 7 builds: 1 skill, 1 tanky, 1 support, 1 MMR, 1 Merciless, 1 raid (aka Striker) and 1 subpart grenade (you know because grenade are fun). All of them are almost at max with all the right stat. I didn't level the expertise on the gear (because that just more protection) but that will probably my next target (not over level 12 because exo compo except for weapon).

So now: Those 5% weapon damage sup will make it easier at the start of the fight or when you get unstacked during fight (too many helmet guys/drone/warhound) which I'm planning to do while farming the ressources for expertising gear and the 89 missing blueprints. Doing descent is also a form of farming.

[rugged stratus]

HSD would help first shot more

or dttooc

[heady tendon]

I already have those

Thus searching for the little bonus more

[sudden matrix]

You really think 5% WD is gonna do anything?

It'll be like a 1-2% differnce in damage.

[heady tendon]

I'll probably hit 10M damage on first hit

[sudden matrix]

LOL

[heady tendon]

Allowing me to pick on elite guy for the first kill

Yeah, I'm greedy (so what)

[sudden matrix]

Problem is you are not gonna pick up that much damage.

[heady tendon]

I'm actually at 9.5M

[sudden matrix]

Yeah so you'll get 9.6 or so.

[rugged stratus]

to each their own. you just farm a ton to be disappointed and in the exact same boat as with current setup

[sudden matrix]

Yeah you aren't going to hit a new breakpoint with damage.

10M isn't going to do anything for you.

Well I guess solo yellow would get picked up but thats assuming you still have vigi.

Regardless you aren't going to pick up that much damage.

[rugged stratus]

i do like sniper setups tho.. especially when the "sniper" is technically a mortar 😎

[heady tendon]

Does your mortar build one shot elite ?

[rugged stratus]

can hit around 10m, 13m on oc

[blazing timber]

5.11 got a buff @rugged stratus @sudden matrix @wispy merlin

[sudden matrix]

Sledge nerf feelsbadman

[blazing timber]

Obliterate/ fast hands nerf feels even worse

[dire frigate]

stupid question what does PTS stand for ?

[marsh tundra]

public test server

[runic rapids]

Obliterate being 8% decrease is fine. Fast hands is pain

[dire frigate]

how do i know if i had PTS on connect or not ?

im kinda new to these things so if someone could help i would appericate it

[cedar yacht]

It appears in your library section i believe when it’s available to download

[dire frigate]

when i saw the patch notes its says what is provided in the picture, so is the update 18gb or 93gb im confused :(.

[marsh tundra]

im downloading rn, it says 51go

[nimble spruce]

97Gb is basically a whole new install of the game, you can get around it by just copying your existing game install into a new folder and adding PTS to the name, then pointing the launcher at that

[marsh tundra]

yeah but this isnt the pts build so it will need to erase everything otherwise it wont work

[dire frigate]

so, since i have the full game the size of the update will be 18gb correct ?

[nimble spruce]

only if you do the copy/rename workaround I mentioned

[nimble spruce]

you copy everything over and then 'verify files' and it should just do the 18Gb update since most of the game files are the same for the PTS

[dire frigate]

i sent you message throught dm, can you check it please, thx!

[marsh tundra]

it still needs to verify every file, so it will be as long tbh

[nimble spruce]

I've literally done this trick myself (after reading about it online), admittedly a couple of years ago but it worked fine then and I see no reason it wouldn't work now. Not sure why you're debating it.

[marsh tundra]

im not saying it doesnt work

i used to do it to back then when my internet was shit

wow the f2000 got hit hard man

[runic rapids]

I assumed the Carbine damage since it's a typo on their chart

And C-TAR gutting which didn't seem crazy

Everything else is kinda mild

Might do this for all guns eventually, just don't wanna type it all out right now lol

[high aspen]

famas buff💀

[runic rapids]

I think the damage per minute nerf balances that

Reload nerf and then fast hands nerf as well

[high aspen]

you mean sustain nerf?

and f2k should have more damage per mag no?

[cedar yacht]

Wow banshee Nerf already

[high aspen]

sorry i didnt see the mag nerf

aug nerf?what?

[runic rapids]

Mag is going from 40 to 30

[high aspen]

yea i said that after it ty tho

[tiny stump]

what a pain. everything i have expertised is getting a fat nerf

[marsh tundra]

same, but i expertised everything almost so that was expected

[cedar schooner]

RIP SR-1

that is probably the hardest hit

it just sucks now lmao

[marsh tundra]

wait they didnt nerf determined and headhunter ?

[tiny stump]

whats the idea here? make enemies tankier and our players weaker so we have to rely on the seasonal modifications or something?

[cedar schooner]

lul

[runic rapids]

Well it's not just about the weapons. A ton of talents are getting buffed

[tiny stump]

and nerfed

oblit. damn it

[blissful wadi]

useless talents

nobody use them

[runic rapids]

Useless until other people make builds to make them relevant lol

Everyone uses the same stuff, it's super homogenized

[blissful wadi]

What can optimal range do?

[wispy merlin]

until it gets eventually homogenized again when people figure out the best stuff again

[wispy merlin]

increases the range at which damage dropoff starts happening

[tiny stump]

heartbreaker looks like it'll come back into the top tier

[blissful wadi]

This is how things develope

[blissful wadi]

I know what it can do, I'm being sarcastic

[cedar schooner]

yeah HB looks good. I think the bonus from the armor and extra stacks will make it pretty worthwhile. biggest loss from striker’s is weapon choice and ROF, but those might not be too bad

[blissful wadi]

Ubi literally just nerf whatever people like, instead of simply buffing other gearsets or weapons, they just nerf the most picked

Same thing happen in R6S

[tiny stump]

ceska crit chance lowered. shit

eagle bearer is lookin good though

[blissful wadi]

They also nerf status effect from Electricity and Golan

make crowd control harder

[tiny stump]

chatterbox rpm bonus buff too that looks nice

[cedar schooner]

this just isn’t true. They buffed so many off meta things and things that were close to meta. Elmo, Ouro, and striker’s are outliers. It doesn’t make sense to try and bring everything up to them. you nerf the strong stuff, buff the weak stuff, so everything is more viable. buffing everything just leads to powercreep

it’s happened with heroic

[blissful wadi]

Elmo and Ouro they are. But striker isn't, also the Obliterate talent. They also nerf Electricity and Golan, the only 2 gold brand set that has buff in status effect with one piece. They nerfed the whole providence brand set, czech's crit chance. They are simply nerfing what is most picked.

[cedar schooner]

Obliterate was far and away the strongest chest talent besides HH.

[blissful wadi]

Agents armor compare to NPCs is a blank sheet of paper, why can't players better off when playing a PVE game?

[cedar schooner]

the brandsets are a weird choice admittedly, but I’m happy they actually make sense with each other now

[blissful wadi]

It has been there since the start of the game!!!

[cedar schooner]

challenge lol? play on a lower difficulty

[blissful wadi]

It isn't far away lmao

[cedar schooner]

Firm handshake is pretty good now tho

[blissful wadi]

by adding merely 1% status effect?

They nerf 1.67% of other brand and give back 1%, do the math bro

[cedar schooner]

its like 5% extra now. so better than elctrqiue golan

[blissful wadi]

Golan and electrique used to have 20%, from brand 10%+ attribute 10%

now u only have 16%

[cedar schooner]

i think? maybe I’m tripping

[blissful wadi]

How many hours have u played bro

[slim elk]

Prob more than you think

please don't be like Mr. Ihave500hoursoneveryplatfrom

[cedar schooner]

well it’s aboyt the same now

tbf i have never used firm handshake it sucked lol

[blissful wadi]

Bruh cuz he is saying something absurd

[cedar schooner]

what’s so absurd?

[blissful wadi]

I 'm literally saying the truth, even if u go full blue, your armor won't last in 2s

[inner tendon]

Are you standing out in the open and trying to tank shots?

because this is the wrong game for that.

[blissful wadi]

Bruh of course not

[cedar schooner]

it’s a dps meta, would you like to see a meta where it’s more viable? that’s fair.

[sudden matrix]

Hot take- IC3SO doesn't even play the game.

[desert thunder]

Why are the hunters on floor 100 of summit to op

[cedar schooner]

he’s right

[tiny stump]

FAL exotic seems pretty damn stong

[cedar yacht]

Because you arent op

[cedar schooner]

never around

[cedar yacht]

new fal and new gearset looks good

[cedar schooner]

im not sure what you want. for gear to be buffed so harder content is easier?

[sudden matrix]

pls no make the game easier

I need a diff buff

[blissful wadi]

Simple, just buff other things instead of nerf what people pick the most

[sudden matrix]

Naw we needed these nerfs.

[tiny stump]

feels like theyre just trying to eliminate metas

[noble snow]

heroic is already sleeper level easy when you have a half way competent build, and i do agree with you parci. i think SOME of the nerfs were necessary tho, not all of them.

[sudden matrix]

Problem is that when you buff everything you just get power creep and the game becomes trivial.

[cedar schooner]

power creep tho. just buffing and never nerfing is a terrible design strategy

[blissful wadi]

For a PVE game I don't really think so.

[inner tendon]

I'm glad someone finally made that point, because I've been waiting to see it get torn to shreds all day.

[blissful wadi]

It give space for players to create build they like

[cedar schooner]

even with bad builds heroic is pretty easy now

[cedar schooner]

there already is space for that

[blissful wadi]

why say no to more options??

[plucky hawk]

You can always just lower the difficulty and run around with whatever

[inner tendon]

If you buff everything and nerf nothing, there is no creativity in builds. Everything becomes equally viable, so there is no room for expansion, no reason to add anything to the game.
div2 is not a power fantasy, it's not meant to be one.

[blissful wadi]

Your writers are running out of ideas, Keener used to be so powerful when he is on other side, and now he can't even hack a BTSU warhound

[cedar schooner]

what build doesn’t work on heroic?

[inner tendon]

....do you think I work for Ubisoft?

[cedar schooner]

“your” wtf

[blissful wadi]

I really don't care

[cedar schooner]

bro cmon

[inner tendon]

Yeah that tracks.

The meta changes all the time. If you dislike having to farm out a new one, you mustn't have been around for that long since we've gone through how many since lvl 40 was added?

[noble snow]

when are you guys adding cars to the division 2 since you work for ubisoft? i want aaron keener as my passenger princess

[inner tendon]

pre-FMJ, then FMJ dominated for yonks, then light striker, then strikers reign truly began.

[plucky hawk]

You missed the age of hunters fury where everyone thought that was the only thing worth running

[desert thunder]

bring back predtor lol

[slim elk]

I almost couldn't tell this was sarcasm lol

[noble snow]

lmaoooo

[inner tendon]

ah HF, that was fun times.
oh and hotshot of course.

[wispy merlin]

HF release was full of HF shills

[tiny stump]

kinda lookin forward to perfect versatile but the brand bonus is junk

[cedar schooner]

swap speed is such a meme

[tiny stump]

not the most attractive attribute

[cedar schooner]

Would’ve been nice to get a new CHC brandset with all the nerfs to brandsets

[blissful wadi]

how about we don't compromise

[cedar schooner]

not really comprimising

it’s heroic

[blissful wadi]

He said lower the difficulty

[cedar schooner]

it’s supposed to present a significant challenge, which is kind of watered down at the moment

[blissful wadi]

give legendary npc AI to heroic, is that what u are looking for?

[plucky hawk]

If all you want is buffs, and have a philosophy of never nerfing things, you always have the option of just lowering the difficulty

[blissful wadi]

sry u are wrong about what I'm saying

[plucky hawk]

What are you saying then?

[blissful wadi]

@plucky hawk

[blissful wadi]

also, why not don't lower the difficulty and have the buff to try new things and gain more XP?

[cedar schooner]

wut

[sudden matrix]

Wat? That makes no sense.

[plucky hawk]

Elmo are ouro are both relatively new items that since they have been released people have argued are overturned outliers. Exactly the kind of thing that's worth nerfing. Obliterate was previously a common top option for chest talents, and in the last balance patch it just got buffed. So they are once again tuning it and putting it somewhere in the middle relative to where it was. Strikers got a whole rework after heartbreaker was released and made it irrelevant. The buff was massive, and has become the dominant option for many people. All these changes make sense. And I'm not one to hold back any criticism on this topic, trust me

[plucky hawk]

My whole "lower the difficulty" comment is a tongue in cheek comment. If you want the game to only get easier and easier over time, and the only balance option the devs should make is to buff and buff, making the game easier and easier. Then just change the setting to make the game easier

[limber dew]

I've been using the striker build from the sheet, will the build be redundant if these changes go through as such and a better DPS build will now exist? I'm a very casual player, I only have one build with focus on DPS.

[blissful wadi]

ELMO and ouro have the worst exotic talent in game, and that is why they have op stats when they were made. obliterate was common because glass cannon is literally one shot kill all the time. They nerfed the HB when it first came out but people still use it, just not as common as striker.

[cedar schooner]

they’ll be good still, but there’s probably going to be better options and changed setups. Honestly, there’s a chance that these changes don’t even go through

[limber dew]

That is good to know, I'll be looking out for developments

[blissful wadi]

And I'm not saying they should buff and buff, they can nerf things of course, but in a reasonable way, look at Providence, they are not the most picked any more and still got nerf

[sudden matrix]

Nerfs in a super over tuned game is gud yo.

[plucky hawk]

Prov has been one of, if not the most commonly run high end set since gear 2.0 was released

[cedar schooner]

having exotics with basically mods as a talent instead of an actual talent is just bad game design IMO. I’d rather the talents get touched at a later date to be useful.

[plucky hawk]

We've had a year+ straight of only ever getting buffs, and things have frankly gotten out of hand

[blissful wadi]

Please go Check other exotic talents and mods

[sudden matrix]

I also find the "nerfing the most picked stuff" thing to be funny, why do you think it's most picked?

[blissful wadi]

Striker is most picked for dps, Electrique and golan are most picked for Crowd control

Czech is most picked for buff crit chance

[cedar schooner]

mosquito, overlord, sacrum imperium..

[blissful wadi]

Do u need more evidence?

[plucky hawk]

Your going to lose less than 2% status effects on your eclipse build, it's so insignificant

[blissful wadi]

This exactly the proof of ubi running out of ideas

[cedar schooner]

those have mostly normal mods and crappy talents. at least the only reason to use them isn’t mods.

[blissful wadi]

Check the old exotic, at least they have interesting talents

[plucky hawk]

Of what? That they are nerfing the strongest items? Of course

[cedar schooner]

I wouldn’t necessarily argue with that. I don’t find it really related tbh

[blissful wadi]

It is a nerf

[plucky hawk]

And....

[blissful wadi]

It proves my point

They are nerfing the most picked

Golan and electrique are the only option for you to play crowd control

[wide bay]

Why aren't people more excited about the opportunities these changes pose. Isn't the best part of playing this game constantly adapting to the new challenges it gives us. Hence why I'm somewhat stoked for the modifiers and gear changes, it seems to give us so much more flexibility and options

[sudden matrix]

This comment is always gonna be funny.

[cedar yacht]

because they arent smart enough like us here

[cedar schooner]

I’m right there with you. IMO for any game, the meta staying the same just gets old. possibly a hot take, I’d rather have some unbalanced come in, change the meta, and get nerfed. Mira in R6 is a great example of that IMO. it completely changed defenses

[sudden matrix]

It's just the most blatantly obvious statement you could ever make which is why I find it funny.

[wide bay]

There is only one thing I'm still in the dark about and would love to see fixed 😉

[limber dew]

I think some people are more casual players like myself and not spend too much time going too deep into everything. I usually play Division after work mostly to chill and enjoy predictable gameplay without worrying about too many details

I like the fact that there are new opportunities for more involved players

[wide bay]

True, but you still don't have to if you don't want to. That's what I mean, the game just gives us more options, for all

[cedar yacht]

I am getting ready

[wide bay]

More variety, more replayability, whether new or more veteran.

[cedar schooner]

they’re so close

[cedar schooner]

curious about a Railsplitter tbh. the accuracy buff seems like a great utility talent, especially since it’s 90% now

[tiny stump]

railsplitter feels great but its never been worth it with such low dmg

[cedar schooner]

it has solid damage now though

I wish it had 8x scope and we still had shield peeking. it would have been shield Peaking

[tiny stump]

oh im def gonna use it now if it got a boost

yea the scope thing sucks

[cedar schooner]

not the end of the world with focus being a lil mid now, but till

[fresh junco]

Mostly because they aren't addressing how much work people have put into expertise for their favorite gear. If there was a way to strip expertise back down to get back even only the exotic components invested, it probably would be easier to accept all the changes and see the new opportunities.

[cedar schooner]

I get that, but that really shouldn’t be an excuse to not balance the game properly.

TBH, it’d really be a lot better if that set an expectation for balancing stuff.

Using RB6 Siege as an example, busted Operator’s like Ela would be introduced, and they were a tad abused, but there was an expectation that she was going to get nerfed eventually. It honestly took to long IIRC.

This game isn’t really used to rebalancing at all, determined is a perfect example, it was almost 100% an accident, but people liked it so much they just decided to keep it…

If they can set an expectation of actually maintaining balance, it will be far better for the game IMO.

[noble snow]

ongoing directive buff 😍

[rugged stratus]

What about a cc build that uses neither 😎 . They arent the only options .

[blissful wadi]

Nice build man. But gave up 10 percent status effect is not my choice

[rugged stratus]

10% status effects is essentially 1 second on foam duration

If 1 second breaks the build then its use should be reevaluated.. team isnt doing their job

[blissful wadi]

Also the sledghammer is about to get nerf as well, no more buff for the team

[cedar schooner]

there’s still plenty off buffs you provide with this lol

[rugged stratus]

Doesnt matter. 3 other amps

Sledge was gravy, and will still increase my damage if I use it

[blissful wadi]

only for urself, like i said, not for entire team anymore

[rugged stratus]

That's what I said, I understand the change

They get 3 amps instead of 4 after change

[blissful wadi]

It actually does, Boss fight in incursion or blocking doors with molotov

[cedar schooner]

tbh player’s already have to proc bloody knuckles

so not that huge IMO

[blissful wadi]

New players only have striker build

[rugged stratus]

Correction: doesnt matter on my build* . Ymmv

[blissful wadi]

Veterans they do

[slim elk]

that's why I recommended having as backups Nego and HF

[blissful wadi]

But striker is currently the easiest build to farm for new players, only a few floor in summit and they will have a half complete build

[cedar schooner]

well thats because it’s been very meta, now we have a more fluid meta, and luckily the game revolves around farming gear lol

[cedar schooner]

it’s still easy to recommend, but we can recommend other stuff after

[rugged stratus]

I'm not really concerned with the changes at this point. I understand they are to help shake up the game a bit. This is actually good for build diversity as it pushes people to try different things. I'm pretty confident the community with find every bit of damage to squeeze out of these changes

[slim elk]

I expect "This NinjaBike Striker build is meta after the nerfs!!!" on YT

[blissful wadi]

Of course they will, that is what people do, and how community evolve. But it keep pushing players out of comfort zone. Like R6S. And what is the result, losing more and more players

Same thing happened to Helldivers 2

[cedar schooner]

pls no

[rugged stratus]

This is an old game. Its base is pretty secure at this point

[cedar schooner]

yeah I don’t think that’s what happened lol

[blissful wadi]

Just log onto the game and type in public chat and see player response to the patch not, I don't think they really like it

[wispy merlin]

the uploader? me

[slim elk]

I would block you

[rugged stratus]

Do it and I'll share it for ya

[blissful wadi]

I don't think so

[wispy merlin]

don't push me or i'll press the button

[blissful wadi]

This kind of change only push away some old players. just like @fresh junco said

[rugged stratus]

S tier godmode build. Destroy Legendary with ease😎

[slim elk]

You wouldn't.

[cedar schooner]

saying whatever you said caused that is baseless

[rugged stratus]

I'm one of those old players 👴

[blissful wadi]

Whatever u said is correct sir, I won't argue with ya👍

[blissful wadi]

Same here, like I said "Some" not all old players

[rugged stratus]

The agents that enjoy the game and pushing builds as far as they can will still be here. This is just a new challenge

[blissful wadi]

Some people don't like to get pushed away from their comfort zone, they spent time and energy on farming and level up expertise of a build/builds to maximum.

[blissful wadi]

Yes I agree

[blissful wadi]

Still, this is a case you should consider

[civic lily]

honestly the only people being pushed out of the zone are scorpio users elmo is still gonna be completely viable

just way less stupid I think

[blissful wadi]

But if u log on to the game and turn on public chat I think u might hear some different opinion about that

[rugged stratus]

I dont think this is so drastic to make every build useless. Most builds with be effective and some will be better than before.
Something like striker is so overkill then even nerfed, itll probably still be meta.
Some of the other stuff like the status affects changes are so mimiscule it really isnt worth being bothered over.

[civic lily]

no global chat on xbox

[rugged stratus]

What a blessing

[blissful wadi]

sry to hear that

[narrow kraken]

1 of my 4 characters has scorpio, and its a backup to dark winter on a hunters fury build and i never use it 🙂

[heady tendon]

Honnestly Scorpio is really powerfull

[narrow kraken]

*was 🙂

[heady tendon]

With expertise he became a tad too powerfull

Scorpio is still powerfull

[blissful wadi]

First of all, I didn't say every build is useless. Secondly, you still didn't understand my point. Some players are tired of farming a new build and level up the expertise, some players might want to farm the new build, while some would just stay the same or just simply quit

[heady tendon]

The trick is to reload when opponent is electrified, wait for it to end and then just electrifying again

You can almost perma CC the opponent

do wonder against hunter and renegade

[rugged stratus]

some players are tired of farming builds, kindof implies that they need to farm a new build because the current is useless, or lacking so much that another build is needed. this isnt the case at all tho, most of the brand sets/weapons can be used in multiple builds. none of the changes are so game breaking that it completely negates a builds effectiveness. some builds may not be top damage, or entirely op... does that really mean someone has to farm out a whole new build? there is a pretty good chance that any build that is currently built in ones loadouts will still be pretty effective after these changes take effect...

[marsh tundra]

local, you cant do that

logic isnt allowed here

[rugged stratus]

F

my bad

[marsh tundra]

[blissful wadi]

Simply because they used to pursue the perfect build: Max DPS, Max Crowd Control, etc. Now there is a new one out there, they would love to do that, but lack of the energy(might because of work/study, who knows). Two of my friends playing this game is at this kind of mental status. And that is why they don't prefer the change. Like u said, those builds are still effective. But they are not the best anymore. Is this making my point clearer?

[marsh tundra]

not really

there is no "perfect build and then no farm anymore"

[blissful wadi]

No matter how they change the game, there will always be a OP build, just a matter of time before the community finds out. Problem is, do u have the time and energy like before to farm those builds

[marsh tundra]

no, balance is possible

no need to have something op

also some change is good, always having striker top tier is boring

[blissful wadi]

You should be the planner of this game

[narrow kraken]

2HG hotshot is perfect 🙂

[marsh tundra]

ikr

[blissful wadi]

it is

[marsh tundra]

its not like there was a way to make numbers go even

[blissful wadi]

Sadly it is about to get nerf as well

[marsh tundra]

like a thing we could call maths

[narrow kraken]

mfw 13%HSD 😡

[marsh tundra]

haha

[rugged stratus]

There is a small issue with this... you are under the assumption that everyone knows what a max dps/status/headhunter/etc .
Do an inspect on some agents you run into, low shd/high shd , it wont matter. You'll see some current meta builds, and a lot of not optimal builds. Point being, some people wont even register a change, some may even see more effectiveness in their builds.
through inspection, you'll see a majority of agents only half understand build theory as we do here. We are lucky here to understand what we gain or lose during any of these rebalances. That understanding comes from the collective knowledge and a hard working community.

[marsh tundra]

and if you talk to them about it, 95% of them will scream at you cause they think their build is flawless and will take 0 criticism

[cedar schooner]

“Well it’s fun”

“I can do heroic and legendary”

[marsh tundra]

i'll never tell them they shouldnt play whatever they like, but saying "its optimal" really is something xd

[blissful wadi]

Not everyone, I'm talking about people who used to have those Maxout builds...

[marsh tundra]

if they have maxed out builds they can make another build in 5min from their stash

you dont get a maxed out build from scratch without dropping everything else

[cedar schooner]

If you don’t have the time for a max build, you’re still gonna be fine lol, like the majority of the player base lol

[rugged stratus]

If that's the case then a majority wont be affected and there wont be a huge exodus

There have been many changes over the years and still a pretty solid player base

[marsh tundra]

yeah some balance changes were crazy back then

like the hard nerfs on heal cloud

it divided the heal by like 10

nobody left the game

[blissful wadi]

It's not majority of course, like I said, only some veterans

[rugged stratus]

hell, stick around long enough and some of the nerfs get reverted

[marsh tundra]

i mean if you took the time to perfect your build, a few nerfs/buffs wont stop you from doing it again, and its better for game health overall

[rugged stratus]

div is full of tinkerers. people that like static setups will just play cod

[blissful wadi]

Well, to do that, if u still have faith or energy in this game

[cedar schooner]

Honestly, new players don’t really understand the changes, and veterans are too attached to the game as a majority to leave regardless of most changes.

Like the game hasn’t been on the up and up. The veterans are pretty committed to what is a very niche game.

[blissful wadi]

The downhill game story might give u enough faith in this game I guess

[marsh tundra]

veterans wont leave the game cause a single thing got nerfed slightly

especially with new content coming

new builds, new story, new manhunts, etc

[rugged stratus]

i think you are speaking more for yourself then the community tbh. you have a valid opinion if you dont agree with the changes. i just personally dont feel thats a widespread sentiment

[cedar schooner]

They sure will whine about it tho

[wispy merlin]

"it works for me" is such an overused line

[cedar schooner]

“Listen smart guy”

[marsh tundra]

yeah its fine to dislike the nerfs, like its your feeling and thats valid

but to say lot of people will quit the game for that ? not credible at all

[blissful wadi]

Not really, why don't u open public chat and see how many would agree with ur opinion

[wispy merlin]

i don't think public chat knows an ounce of build theory

[marsh tundra]

the same public chat where people complain about everything and anything ? and they dont know how the game works ?

[blissful wadi]

Pride and prejudice right there

[marsh tundra]

they complain about armor, they complain about drop, they complain about rogues, they complain about everything

[wispy merlin]

more like you ask underqualified people you get mixed results

[marsh tundra]

public chat is also filled with scams

no reason to have it open

[blissful wadi]

That is the reason u close the door to public opinion about games

no wonder that UBI stock price is going down hill since 2021

[marsh tundra]

opinion is fine, facts arent opinions

and thats not the reason, bruh

its a game, doesnt affect stock price cause an item got nerfed

be real, it only affect by money

[blissful wadi]

Of course it isn't, a gaming company fails its player and have a booming stock price

Like the exotic---sweet dream

[marsh tundra]

nerfs and buffs arent "failing its gamers"

the only thing that matter is bringing money

nerfs dont impact anything

[blissful wadi]

by pushing ur loyal players out of the comfort zone and expect them to pay more money to you?

[marsh tundra]

who's pushed out ?

[blissful wadi]

Wow u really should be UBI director

[marsh tundra]

do you have any numbers ?

any proofs anyone is being pushed out ?

any stat ?

[marsh tundra]

thats the stocks, not the players

[rugged stratus]

i would if i understood the language. ill let time tell me what its already told me with all the previous changes. i havent had issues matchmaking and if there is a huge exodus, that will change. otherwise its a non issue, im not worried about a few fickle agents deciding to quite because the game made them farm a new piece

[marsh tundra]

give me stats that players are leaving cause of nerfs

give me proofs

you didnt leave the game

[blissful wadi]

why not just go online and search for them urself