ask-td2-community

[ivory sundial]

there’s entry checkpoints surrounding the borders of it so u can either exit or enter it

if u look close on the map, look for aread with the bolt icon

[mighty dragon]

ty

[narrow kraken]

Hey what do I do now that I finished the wony campaign

[real burrow]

Question for you all: I currently have Ubisoft plus and it expires in about a week. Can I cancel my subscription, buy a game that I have been playing on Ubisoft plus (like division) on Ubisoft connect and then resume my progress?

[tribal hemlock]

@solar marten

@kind creek @civic lily same thing but w/ directives

[fallow inlet]

Hope Everybody had a great weekend

Goodnight

😴😴

[rugged stratus]

Tc Saph

[wanton frigate]

yes it should work, but contact ubi support to double make sure

[tribal hemlock]

@solar marten

[rugged stratus]

very nice, except one glaring disappointment...

No fox bag

[thorn hedge]

Fox bag

[inner tendon]

Oh did they add another bag that's not a corgi?

because that is 100% meant to be a corgi.

[thorn hedge]

No that's a fox

[inner tendon]

Here, I'll send it to ya.

[meager elbow]

your dmg output seems a bit low

i do about 750k with 3 blue striker and elmo

you're at 800-975k

you should be able to push it past a million

[tribal hemlock]

single shot crits don't really mean much unless you talk about chc as well

it also depends on the content and how you're maintaining stacks

for example oreo single shot crits are lower than elmo, but the fire rate is so high that it does more dps

[meager elbow]

i was talking elmo

4 piece striker elmo with memento max stacks and picaro

hits around 700-750k on headshot crit

[tribal hemlock]

which is a meaningless number on its own

and relies on gathering memento trophies, in your example

[meager elbow]

yeah but i also have way more armour and survivability

[keen pelican]

Does the countdown mode currency reset every season?

[tribal hemlock]

show me a video of you running exactly the same thing i was and show your chc as well

[meager elbow]

no it doesn't. it's shared across all seasons

chc is at 60% chd is i think slightly around 120%

i'll do it tomorrow i can't get on pc rn

[tribal hemlock]

armor is not survivability btw

you will die fast anyway

i do run a memento striker on leg sometimes b/c i like it, but you dont need it for the content i was showing

[meager elbow]

i don't run memento on leg

i switch to fenris

too hard to get memento stacks in a legendary mission with 3 other people

[tribal hemlock]

i do like memento striker though for long solo runs, its cool

my video was less about show max possible dmg and more about striker playstyle and that ttk is super low when you play it right

[meager elbow]

yeah i use oroborous with mine mostly cuz i can consistenly keep the stacks up while the ars are slower

[rugged stratus]

its a fox in my eyes 🦊

[inner tendon]

I love how much you think it's a fox :p
@meager elbow Just a heads up, red cores on gear actually makes brandsets like Fenris relatively less effective, as they scale off base damage.
So ceska would probably be the higher damage choice there overall, assuming you aren't doing a weird red/blue hybrid.
But even then, Ceska probably wins.

[rugged stratus]

i love that you love that 😍

[tribal hemlock]

dog bag is weird

[rugged stratus]

lmao🤣

[meager elbow]

what if you're already at 60 chc then wouldn't ceska be redundant?

[thorn hedge]

you shouldnt already be at 60chc

[inner tendon]

@rugged stratus can answer this one better than I can.

[rugged stratus]

you are aware that nego transfers crits damage to the other marks, correct? those hits are actually generating more damage than showed

[rugged stratus]

build?

[meager elbow]

with just elmo i'm at 60 chc

4 piece striker with memento and picaro

[thorn hedge]

you can take off some crit for chd tho

literally the only locked crit on that is from elmo and watch and that does not add up to 60

[rugged stratus]

if youre at 60 its because you dedicated too many rolls to chc. drop picaros, add ceska. keep mem if you like for survivability but you would be hitting harder with coyote or grupo in its place

[meager elbow]

where is that pic

[thorn hedge]

what pic

[inner tendon]

Picaro's seems like a subpar choice there. Since Memento already gives you a Tier 2 shield, unless you really really want a Tier 3, you can just use a better brandset for that 6th red core.

[thorn hedge]

4 blues..?

[meager elbow]

that's for solo play

[thorn hedge]

still

[meager elbow]

in group i switch memento to striker backpack and chest to fenris/groupo

[thorn hedge]

not ceska chest?

[rugged stratus]

most of damage is geenerated from the chest in this case as well. it can work but only certain scenarios. if youre always in that type of content i cant fault that

striker bag would be a huge boost

[inner tendon]

A tier 5 shield? Like, why tho?

[meager elbow]

it's not about the shield

it's about face tanking everything

[thorn hedge]

and low damage?

[meager elbow]

literally only reason i have so many blues

[inner tendon]

Then why are you using Picaro and wasting 2 blues on Striker?

[meager elbow]

i do fine on damage lol

[thorn hedge]

you can do fine damage on anything

[rugged stratus]

caska actually allows you to hit higher chd. with a standard setup (no memento and add striker) you would only need the ceska and 2 secondary crit rolls. all alse could be chd giving a 9% boost over similar with grupo

[inner tendon]

This build should not be bothering me this much, but every time I look at it, I feel like it's one of those "spot the difference" puzzles and there's slightly too many.

[civic lily]

I say switch Picaro out for ceska chest

no crit in this

[thorn hedge]

I mean my striker build uses forge and FP lol

[inner tendon]

I threw on Mad Bomber the other day w/ no Sledgehammer just to flex on the damage that Striker already does.

[meager elbow]

you should see me using this

it'll seriously surpise you guys

[thorn hedge]

No it won't

Just say your damage number per shot and we'll see

[civic lily]

I take memento striker into legendary all the time

Just not this one

[meager elbow]

700-750k on headshot with elmo bout 700k with ouroboros

[thorn hedge]

We aren't specifically after the memento part

[rugged stratus]

could switch out picaros for ceska, but then switch to tech spec for the free core and even possibly use artificer for the shield

[civic lily]

Ok

[thorn hedge]

Just the everything else part

[inner tendon]

The secret truth about div2 that no one likes to admit is that you could use 6 white pieces and still finish Heroic.

[civic lily]

lol

[thorn hedge]

It's the fact that you're just wasting your time on purpose

[meager elbow]

that picaros is armour wep damage and chd

[inner tendon]

What's your CHD on the build?

[thorn hedge]

My striker old striker before ouro did 1.2 mil a shot hbu

[meager elbow]

120%

[thorn hedge]

That's low

[meager elbow]

ik if i switch to groupo and striker bag

i get around 140

[thorn hedge]

Pretty sure you can get to 150

[rugged stratus]

not with the rolls dedicated to chc. whats chc on this

[meager elbow]

i didn't dedicate shit to chc lemme check

[rugged stratus]

then its net loss if only running bare 30

[inner tendon]

What is your actual CHC, because not a lot of people can hit exactly 60.

[meager elbow]

wut

HUH

this is with grupo chest and picaro

with memento it's like 55 and 112

[thorn hedge]

That's really low chd

[rugged stratus]

definitely rolls dedicated to chc

[meager elbow]

idk works well for me

[inner tendon]

We have someone on here who likes to complete the game with 6 white gear slots, things can be improved a bit though.

[eager abyss]

QUESTION! I am trying to do the Turned to Stone challenge for Gunner. I have been at this for an hour, I've used Demo special, I've used Oxidizier, I've used "rolling around on the floor, plinking away with a pistol" and I CANNOT get the challenge to proc.

I break all his armor, use Pulse to see that it's all gone, and it just is not working.

What in the world am I supposed to do about this? This seems bugged/broken.

[inner tendon]

2 questions, apologies if they seem obvious.
Are you doing it on whatever difficulty it requires? And 2: are you getting every single piece of armour, including the weird ones on his knee-ish area?

[eager abyss]

It's on Normal, so yes to 1, and I check with shooting him in the leg after they break, and... the amount of times I've killed him on accident from that...

I was also reading up on it and people online said they patched the funky armor out, but I cannot confirm that and this is just driving me up the wall.

[thorn hedge]

are you using directives

[eager abyss]

Just straight, vanilla Normal.

[rugged stratus]

maybe run it up to hard or challenging so he has a bigger health pool.

do oxis do the trick?

[eager abyss]

oxis JUST kill him. does difficulty affect armor health?

[rugged stratus]

oh damn.
it might, idk tbh, but with more health you can miss more shots and not kill him on accident.

[inner tendon]

My method (and granted this was a loooong time ago now), was to craft the weakest pistol I could, and plink away whilst using a Bulwark shield.
and it still took me two tries.

[tribal hemlock]

I just helped a friend with this last week and it did work. If I recall he has 6 armor parts. Head, chest, left arm, right arm, left leg, right leg.

I think he was using the prophet

[civic lily]

I did this challenge with oxis

[eager abyss]

Was it with as little skill damage as possible?

Because I manage to break one piece with them and then he just dies

[civic lily]

I didn't do it on normal, I remember using some random pieces that added up to high skill tier and used artillery turret as a lure

[eager abyss]

Hm. I'll try it on harder difficulty then, but this challenge is scuffed.

[wanton frigate]

wtf do tanks do so much damage..

those along with gunners are really annoying classes

[bronze storm]

Random question: is it me or does the Ouroboros have a weird... uhh... golden pig keychain or something? Why tho?

[civic lily]

surprisingly big gatling guns hurt

good thing they have a conviently placed ammo belt

[true siren]

Its related to Keener, isnt it? He was a wall street guy, trading stocks.

[wanton frigate]

reminds me of the time i used to face tank them with a meme king heartbreaker build

[wanton frigate]

keeners plans will stonks to the moon 😂

[robust crane]

Can you get st Elmo's from countdown? I'm a returning player and thinking of farming for it.

[bronze storm]

Yes, on AR targeted loot. Extremely easy and fast if you just run it on challenging.

[narrow kraken]

How do I get st elmo

Same way as rvery other exotic?

[supple bane]

afaik its just a random drop

i got mine from countdown while targeting assault rifles

[narrow kraken]

Yeah I was also gonna ask where the countdown node is

[limber egret]

Do you have to wait for targeted "assault rifles" or can you select it when you do countdown, sorry I'm new 🙏

[blazing timber]

On countdown and summit you can select them anytime you want

[limber egret]

Thank you

[supple bane]

Top right of the main map

[bronze storm]

Is the Summit Floor 10 spam the best way to farm Field Recon Data outside DZ?

[narrow kraken]

So I notice I'm getting kicked out of 1/4 countdown queues on heroic by group leaders before it starts with zero word. What gives?

[bronze storm]

Some have mentioned before everyone should be running strikers to melt enemies and get faster clears. In my experience I can say I never get kicked when running strikers, while I have been when running any other build that I find fun to use. So there's that, I guess.

[narrow kraken]

I'm running strikers.

Is the culture really that bad around gear though?

[bronze storm]

Like in any other game, there are people like that.

[random field]

Is Lady Death a good exotic?

[wooden estuary]

show me your build

[random field]

😭I've run random shit and never got kicked

[narrow kraken]

Really don't feel the need to drop the build because I understand the mechanics enough to know it isn't optimal - you know - because I'm new and stuff. Which is why I'm asking about this since it's a culture shock.

Also I just changed it lmao.

[tribal hemlock]

Most countdown leaders don't actually look at your build. They mostly kick for low SHD level which is dumb.

I think my first 500 SHD levels I got kicked a lot and after that it stopped.

[tribal hemlock]

There's a difference between an unoptimized build and a bad build. You can throw together a good Striker build easily that isn't optimized but is perfectly suitable.

[narrow kraken]

Ah then that may be what it is. I'm just barely 114.

[nimble spruce]

Frustrating as it is, loot quality on challenging countdown is almost as good (better than challenging difficulty elsewhere in the game) and you're much less likely to get kicked.

[narrow kraken]

Well I'm wanting the slightly better chance at an exotic as I'm going for ninjabike so I can build a build I actually want to play. Strikers and pure DPS is mega boring to me.

[supple bane]

Id recommend running challenging since personally ive never been kicked and its quicker to find a team

[narrow kraken]

I'm not changing how I play because other people want to be snobs and dictate how others play lol - not trying to solve the problem just understand it.

I have zero issues on heroic.

[supple bane]

Its shd level prejudice

[narrow kraken]

Besides it's not like our population is low - so far getting kicked hasn't resulted in me waiting huge amounts of time for another coutndown.

[tribal hemlock]

Depends really. If you're really getting kicked for SHD level then yea.

If you're running Striker with a bunch of blue cores then that's on you.

Or something silly like 6pc Striker or 3pc Striker.

If I saw you running 3pc Striker I'd instakick you from my CD lobby lol

But never for low SHD level, that's idiotic

[narrow kraken]

Striker is worthless without the 4 piece so yeah

One thing to kick someone for literally having a broken/incomplete build that won't play.

A whole other thing when it just doesn't suit your standards.

[supple bane]

Ive seen people running 6pc and dont understand why

[narrow kraken]

But neither are acceptable without verbalizing the why. Can't fix something if you don't know why you're being excluded.

If people kicked for my build it's probably because they don't care for hybrid tanks.

[tribal hemlock]

What is a hybrid tank?

Are you running Striker with blues or something?

What are your other pieces?

[narrow kraken]

No, I've already tore the build up and recalibrated a bunch of pieces now that I actually have proper DPS pieces and not garbage.

[tribal hemlock]

Well anyway don't sweat it. If you're bringing the right build just keep queueing and eventually that nonsense will stop. Hopefully that answers your question though. I know it can be frustrating to suddenly get kicked.

[narrow kraken]

But, I was running 4 skill cores and a shield/repair drone with 4pc strikers and pulling about 6m DPS - not great but combined with St Elmo's and Shocker Punch it was more than sufficient.

[tribal hemlock]

Oh geez yea you deserve to be kicked for that.

lol

[narrow kraken]

Guess it's anormalized thing in the culture then.

People like you do realize that we can't build mega-builds until you know... we get the stuff, right?

and if you don't want to let us get the stuff.....

[supple bane]

Id say considering you use "garbage" to describe your pieces id think its clear what was wrong

[tribal hemlock]

Not really. It doesn't take a lot of work to research proper builds. It's not up to other people to carry you through content that you can research yourself how to run.

The minimum you need to run Heroic CD is ridiculously easy to farm.

And it's not a matter of opinion. Heroic CD is a DPS check plain and simple. Your yellow cores are completely useless there.

It's a team based game mode...

If just you were running that build it's no problem. But then you'll have 3-4 other people running marshmellow builds and the whole thing is a slog. Wastes everyone's time.

As for explaining to you what's wrong, nobody has time for that in a CD lobby. Can you imagine explaining it to every person that comes along? Experienced players here will tell you what happens when you try... people get defensive and it turns into an argument.

I wouldn't blame it on the culture/community. This is the game designer's fault for making basically all content a DPS check which invalidates a bunch of creative builds.

Almost everything is solved with adding more DPS :/

[rugged stratus]

facts

[narrow kraken]

So in otherwords what you're telling me is that if I wanna play the game in a way that is fun get stuffed and just deal with the community being rude and snobby?

[rugged stratus]

can always start your own lobby and be the one that controls the kicking

[narrow kraken]

I mean I have no problem doing that I'm just laying it out there like it is lol

[tribal hemlock]

No. I'm saying if you want to play the game your way then just play on your own and there won't be a problem. The second you join a group-based game mode then you need to adapt to the group.

I have loadouts specifically for these modes to help the group. When I'm solo farming open world I run all kinds of weird stuff.

[rugged stratus]

cd is no place for skill builds, since they get hacked.
an all yellow strikers definitly looks like a hard carry, which is easy to do in challenging... but heroic you just need the right build. same with raids, same with incursion

[narrow kraken]

Well I wasn't all yellow lol

[rugged stratus]

close enough

[tribal hemlock]

The community is awesome if you show a desire to play with the group. I did my first raid recently and they went out of their way to show me everything, where all the collectibles were, and gave me specific tasks so I can help get through it.

[narrow kraken]

True enough - I just wish people saw that theres more to playing games like these than point cursor at target, apply dps.

[tribal hemlock]

There are great CC builds you can run for CD man. But they actually contribute.

[narrow kraken]

But I started changing out my build to a more pure DPS back around when I asked this question. It's much more damage focused now. Not a fun build though tbh.

[tribal hemlock]

There are disrupt resistant builds that allow you to CC Hunters even when they pulse.

You can even run healer and it'll be more useful.

(with debuffs like opportunistic backpack and sledgehammer shotgun)

[narrow kraken]

Yeah I'm planning to build one which is why I'm trying to farm ninjabike/the points to buy enough crates to finally get it.

[tribal hemlock]

Ninjabike sucks btw 😛

[supple bane]

Arent skill esque builds a hindrance since theres hunters

[tribal hemlock]

Depends on the skills you use. Foam they can't hack. Shock trap they can't hack.

[narrow kraken]

Yes I'm well aware ninjabike sucks when you look at it from a DPS perspective. Way better options. I don't like builds that require procs. I like my builds to be always on. Ninjabike and comboing bonuses and choosing slots lets you get that.

[rugged stratus]

unfortunatly, a mode like countdown is highly based on completing the mission. youll get the drops even if you dont extract, but you wont get the requisitions to puchase the caches. its basically an exo farm. on heroic anything way out of whack basically can cause a wipe at the end and F everyone.

i rarely see kicks in challenging CD where you do sometimes see straight skill builds.

[narrow kraken]

Yeah I've done it at least 50 times now.

[tribal hemlock]

Everything in this game boils down to DPS. Even with non-DPS builds.

• Healer keeps people alive so they can apply more DPS.
• CC locks down enemies so DPS can be more effective.
• Debuff skills/talents weaken enemies so DPS does more work.

The core of this game is DPS so if you want an effective team build you need to be contributing to that somehow. If you run solo then obviously it's w/e you prefer.

If you want an always-on DPS build then Negotiators Dilemma is great. Ongoing Directive is great b/c it makes everyone stronger while still applying good damage itself.

Striker is actually more situational than it seems.

[rugged stratus]

but really unless someone knows you personally, the only assessment anyone can make of you is the build and shd.
if it looks off it looks like a wipe

[narrow kraken]

Yep - well aware of how it works. You scoff at 4 skill core strikers but what it provided in practice when I used lefty to build the stacks was a mid DPS tank soaking up fire letting the rest of the team keep applying DPS.

and spitting out shock CC with the elmo

[tribal hemlock]

You don't understand how aggro mechanics work in this game. Enemies will always shoot the person who is applying the most damage to them. If no one is applying damage to them then they'll target the nearest enemy.

You can test this out easily by running a tank build on legendary and rushing into the middle. The enemies will ignore you while you stand in the middle of them - shoot past you at your teammates.

So when you soak up damage it's only b/c no one else is shooting them yet.

(it's why tank builds don't work - a lot of people, including me, have fallen into that trap)

And with 3 skill cores you ain't soaking up anything 😛

[rugged stratus]

unfortunatly its not really true. if you are running dps its expected you dish out a lot of damage.

personally i never run dps in challenging or heroic cd... what i do run is a hazpro eclipse CC build. also never been kicked from a cd match. if running skill tiers it need to be a healer or cc

[tribal hemlock]

hazpro cc is a godsend in cd

[rugged stratus]

so good

[tribal hemlock]

i go out of my way to thank a good cc any time i can

b/c it's so rare and so good

[rugged stratus]

every once in a while i run into another foam cc guy. its pretty fun having dueling riot foam going all over the place... but at extraction when disrupts are constant im usually the only one left foaming 💯

[tribal hemlock]

lol i had that happen once. i ended up switching back to dps thinking "do your thing foam guy, do your thing"

[rugged stratus]

@narrow kraken ill challenge you this... try running a fairly stock red core dps striker, but run memento and tech. it will give you 3 skilltiers between mem and tech for your shield. youll be able to stack up 30% skill efficiency with the trophies which will equate to 30% skill health for your shield. you mentioned repair drone , with mementos skill efficiency youl also have 30% repair skills/30% haste to help that. in tech tree you can select skill healing perk instead of skill damage perk bringing your repair skills to 40%. you might be surprised with how much attributes you get from memento while being able to spec all damage attributes in the rest of the build

[narrow kraken]

Interesting I happen to have memento so I'll have to play with that.

Is the loss of the 0.45%/stack on strikers worth it though?

[tribal hemlock]

Memento hybrids are great

Not everyone would like that one but it's my solo legendary runner (not all stages obviously)

IIRC full memento stacks = 2 red cores

You lose on peak DPS output but that doesn't matter for solo since enemies are much weaker

[rugged stratus]

itll be a loss of some damage, but youll gain from the red cores not being skill tiers, and also benefit 30-60% raw wd from memento talent. it will be a trade off but it wont be a huge deficit since you are just kinda shifting how you power your repair drone/shield

[tribal hemlock]

And once you're comfortable with surviving you can ditch the reviver hive for something cooler

You'll have the skill tier for it to be really good

Turret, drone, shock trap, foam, so many options

[rugged stratus]

artificer hive will help as well if running tech

freee shield repair

[narrow kraken]

Alright well I'm going to try and get a couple more CD's in. Have a good day.

[rugged stratus]

tc and gl 🍻

[tribal hemlock]

give em hell 😄

[random field]

Where do I get the missing part

[worldly fjord]

cleaner tactical essesment.
earned by crafting or killing named cleaners

@random field

[random field]

Which area has cleaners

[worldly fjord]

you see that logo? find it on the map...

[nimble spruce]

NY

[random field]

Thanks

[nimble spruce]

Never quite understood why cleaners have the recycling symbol as their logo, burning everything is pretty much the opposite of recycling

[worldly fjord]

conley always says stuff about building something new, so i guess thyre "recycling" the city itself. first they destory it and the virus, then they rebuild

[nimble spruce]

Reduce, reignite, rebuild

[distant walrus]

Hold tf up, if I haven't done incursion and it be my first time. This shits on normal, could I solo it??? ☠️

Nevermind learned my lesson ☠️☠️☠️

[worldly fjord]

Oh you poor soul

That normal isnt the same normal as the open world

[distant walrus]

Yep, didn't even last 10 seconds

And my striker gear stats is 95% fully done

All red

It's 4am I'm sleepin 💤

[lucid mural]

What's the difference between recalibration and optimisation?

recal is switching to whatevers in your library and optim is increasing what's there?

[worldly fjord]

pretty much yeah

[lucid mural]

can only recal one stat slot, can't recal once optim'd
is there anything else i should know?

[blazing timber]

Optimization is a resource hog is expensive recalibration is easy less resources depends on library

[worldly fjord]

you cannot recalibrate a slot that has been optimized, but you can optimize a slot that has been recalibrated

[blazing timber]

Also can only reaclibrate one slot after optimizing a recalibrated slot

It is locked

[blazing timber]

Idk why they had to do this should have also followed in reverse

After recalibration no optimization

[worldly fjord]

what if your library isnt maxed yet

like if you got an 11.8 crit damage you should be able to optimize that .2

[tiny stump]

you cant optimize library stats unfortunately

unless you just recalibrate and then optimize the gear piece

[worldly fjord]

thats what i said

[blazing timber]

I am annoyed about recalibration should allow us 2 on bag and chest

[worldly fjord]

yeah makes fighting the RNG on cores much easier

[blazing timber]

You free rn ?

Can you help me with my hc ?

[worldly fjord]

yeah just came out of descent

[tiny stump]

that would negate a LOT of the need to farm gear

[lucid mural]

so if i recal something e.g from 18% chc to 19% chc in my library, i can't get that slot to 20%?

or can i recal it once i get 20% in my library?

[blazing timber]

Honestly not I am talking about keeping the core recalibration open

And another stat of your choice

[tiny stump]

ohhh

[blazing timber]

This way

It will be better

You can always recalibrate the core

And only change 1/3 in bag and chest category

[tiny stump]

yeaah that'd be very helpful

[wanton frigate]

recalibrate deez

[random field]

Sorry my bad I don't have specialization maxed

[wanton frigate]

which target??

[random field]

Inven one

[wanton frigate]

invul regular or elite??

[random field]

Regular I think?

Let me try on elite

[wanton frigate]

full strikers on named chara in the range for me is 8~9 mil dps for me using st chad engine but ouro is higher at 15m range

[blazing timber]

Using range dps = shit results

[wanton frigate]

whats the better way to measure dps then?/

[random field]

4-5000000 on Elmo's

[rugged stratus]

Also oreo outdamages everything significantly

[blazing timber]

Spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice

[random field]

Does level 1000 shd bluff a lot more?

[blazing timber]

It helps but depends entirely on skill and builds

[wanton frigate]

i mean it better outdamage everything in its prime range lol

[random field]

im trying to get the cd to increase

[rugged stratus]

As shd climbs so will those stats

[sudden matrix]

Sick bro, this is really good progress ya know.

[rugged stratus]

Just focus chc in watch, then chd for best results

[random field]

Ye gogamer suggested that so I'm going in for cc and then I'll go for cd

[rugged stratus]

Yeah at 250-350 shd range you'll be able to swap a chc roll to chd

[wanton frigate]

now get your expertise to lv24 and max out the oreo

[rugged stratus]

But yeah, I agree with Souless, looking really good

[random field]

I mean I still die tho
Like super fast on heroic capture points

Also why does my capture points and missions get switched up to a higher tier?

[rugged stratus]

Yeah with damage builds you'll have to really utilize cover

[random field]

I'm in challenging rn but I get heroic missions when I'm at alert 4

[rugged stratus]

Activities can drive up that difficulty

Theyll have a thin red line back to the cp they increase

[random field]

Oh so if I play on heroic it goes tier up to legendary?

[rugged stratus]

No open world heroic is max

[random field]

Oh

So it's kinda better playing on heroic?

[rugged stratus]

Its not necessary. Play where you are comfortable. I'm sure some leave their world on challenging and use activities to drive up the cp difficulty. This will keep any convoys or patrols that stumble into the cp at challenging

[wanton frigate]

run shield and reviver and you'll never die again

on heroic ai does lot of damage and has no recoil

[blazing timber]

On legendary they can shoot through wall

[wet skiff]

are emperors guards dz exclusivve

[blazing timber]

Yeah

[bronze grove]

Yup

Also in named caches and invaded mission reward tho

[bronze grove]

On a lot of content theres still better choices

Ouroboros has bad damage drop off and runs out of ammo too quick

[worldly fjord]

invadeds dont drop dz named items

[rugged stratus]

Yeah in under 2 minutes

[bronze grove]

I've had it happen

Just the mission reward for the named items not the drops

I've gotten matador, emperors guard and hollow man from it (also orbit but had to check if it was dz exclusive)

[bronze grove]

Best dps at close range is BLB and a good shotty

[wanton frigate]

oh ok thats good to know

[bronze grove]

They do for the mission rewards

[worldly fjord]

sorry but im calling bs on that one, never seen it for myself and anybody i play with

[bronze grove]

So your saying "it isn't real because I haven't seen it"

[worldly fjord]

me and literally anybody i play with

in fact youre the first person who claims that happened

[bronze grove]

Run more then

[civic lily]

I see dz items in manhunt missions that's all

[rugged stratus]

Manhunt targets can drop dz exclusives. Idk about regular invaded, but also dont remember any dropping. I do them weekly

[twilit otter]

I have been playing since the beginning and maybe I have bad rng but haven't had a DZ item drop from invaded missions

[civic lily]

Maybe you kept deconing them

[random field]

Oh I can get rock and roll from manhunts?

[rugged stratus]

Well I would see them. Rewards goto bag. I do decon stuff on the floor a lot tho 😅

[wanton frigate]

yeh i got a dark winter yesterday poggers

[worldly fjord]

yeah manhunts do, im calling bullshit on invasions though

[wet skiff]

ok guess ill farm manhunts

[lucid mural]

oh?

[rugged stratus]

Just farm countdown and buy named caches. Named caches can drop dz exclusives.

[lucid mural]

are directives a clientside thing or a server thing? as in will teammates who join you have the same directives

[thorn hedge]

Eh dta kinda ruins it

[rugged stratus]

Host sets directives

[lucid mural]

gotcha

[lucid mural]

could recal at least, or would you recal the talent

[thorn hedge]

Talent is god awful

[lucid mural]

thought so lmao damb

[worldly fjord]

whatever directives the host has active will be active for everyone

[rugged stratus]

Just throw determined on and you're gold

[nimble spruce]

Dta not so bad really, second best to dtoc but still good enough

Think it double dips with HH or something too, although I can't remember the details

[rugged stratus]

Yeah what I was hearing about dta as well. Like calculation for each HH stack or something. Also cant remember the details

[sudden matrix]

Campus vendor has one with determined on it already.

[nimble spruce]

I think the extra damage it gives you is treated sort of like skill damage, and like some skills it actually benefits from dta. Similar to nego

[random field]

Nice

[sudden matrix]

Yeah but the reason DTA on the weapon isn't suggested is because not everything has armor but you probably know about all of that.

[wispy merlin]

damage with hh stacks is basically sum of regular bullet damage and hh bonus, and both can have common factors including dta, hence why dta is strong

[narrow kraken]

Does the summit have a weekly or daily reset? I'm new

[wanton frigate]

oh that makes sense thats why peeps run is it fox prayer kneepads with regulus builds

[wanton frigate]

you mean the challenges

[narrow kraken]

No does it reset your floor?

[wispy merlin]

that's for high end version and dttooc actually isn't a common factor

the reason people run it on high end regulus is because there's no better choice

[narrow kraken]

Also how do I stay alive in high end content when running strikers

[random field]

You don't 😭

[wanton frigate]

shield and hive reviver is recommended for new players

dont let ai swam you, its designed to push the player. kill the most dangerous targets first

[marsh folio]

easiest way for me was to play conflict matches and open the conflict boxes...Rock and Roll is the only Bonus item that you can get opening those. You get 1 box for playing a match, 2 boxes if you also win the match with the team and 3 boxes if you make level while you doo all the above. so you could eventually get at least 10 boxes in 10 matches if you don't win any. from those 10 you have big chance that 1 will be with bonus content

[worldly fjord]

you can also get its blueprint from descent

[nimble spruce]

good cover use, target prioritization, cover-to-cover moves, and when face-trading shoot enemies in the head to stagger them and (usually) stop them from shooting back

[random field]

I tried but never got into a team

Like 30-40 mins and no team

I tried it on every level too 💀
10, 15,20,25,30,40

[marsh folio]

I did that yesterday and 2 days ago

[sudden matrix]

Just buy named caches with countdown tokens, DZ items are in there too and it's pretty much every 15 minutes you can buy one.

[random field]

How long does it take in darkzone

To get one of those weapons

I mean it was fun when I first went there at level 16

[sudden matrix]

Uhh idk could be short could feel impossible.

[nimble spruce]

depends on target loot and luck

also worth noting rock & roll is not really THAT much better than regular ACS, you're unlikely to notice a significant difference in regular gameplay

[sudden matrix]

Just know RNR isn't needed for ANYTHING it's just a nice to have.

[random field]

Does it look nice?

[sudden matrix]

I use it to get into my 200 striker stacks and that's it.

Ehh it's got a locked camo.

[random field]

Lefty looks mad ugly 😔

[sudden matrix]

Well the RNR is worse imo.

[random field]

Oh

[nimble spruce]

don't they have the same model and same skin choices?

[sudden matrix]

Some of the named items are like a locked skin now.

Lefty is locked to that bloody thing and I'm pretty sure the RNR is locked to that.

[tidal barn]

the red one?

[sudden matrix]

Lefty is some bloody red skin yeah.

[tidal barn]

RNR Isn't locked

[sudden matrix]

Oh well I'll have to see if it'll change and stay.

[tidal barn]

I changed mine to black and it hasn't changed since

[sudden matrix]

This game is a bug fest so who knows if it's because it's an old or new RNR I'm using ya know.

[tidal barn]

Its a new one

Got it recently

I've been too busy using lefty tho, Cute cat

[sudden matrix]

Ty she a lynx point three legged bish who needs head scritches cause no back leg lol.

[tidal barn]

Still cute

[supple bane]

For shd levels is public execution the best method? Challenging 4 directives

[tidal barn]

Yep

I think it was 540K exp per

[sudden matrix]

Or higher diff more directives if you can.

[tidal barn]

Actually I take back my statement, Heroic 4 directives

[sudden matrix]

I will say it is a time thing too that extra xp from an activity that takes you longer isn't always more xp per minute.

[tidal barn]

It takes me about 15-25ish seconds to do a hostage, So around 1 level up per 2 mins, Travelling / Fast travel included

When the reanimation event was about, I had a D-50 Pistol headshot build I farmed 100 levels in about 7ish hours, ofc breaks included

[sudden matrix]

Yeah but you me and the back space person are all different so they need to figure that out for themselves. It's just important to point out so people look at that aspect rather than whoa huge xp but they might not realize it took longer for less SHD per hour. It's also why we suggest the hardest diff and most directives you can quickly clear.

Can't get xp if you on da floor.

[tidal barn]

Even a boched headshot build can do good right?

[sudden matrix]

Some people can't click heads to even start a determined D50.

[tidal barn]

don't use D50 Use white death, D50 Was only when the event was active because headshots were increased by like 200% or something

[supple bane]

Atm seems for be 1 level per completion right now

[tidal barn]

What build are you using?

[supple bane]

Im using a semi 'well built' hot shot determined white death build and can procc determined sometimes because my accuracy is meh

[supple bane]

^

[tidal barn]

chainkiller chest?

[supple bane]

Lemme try find the sc i sent last night

[tidal barn]

Should look like this or near enough?

[supple bane]

Its not perfect but good enough for now

[tidal barn]

That's all you need

as long as your hitting above 16 Mil your fine

[supple bane]

The chest and backpack are from what i already had from when i last played

[sudden matrix]

Campus vendor has a WD with determined on it. If you'd like a thrid attribute to reroll.

[supple bane]

22-23 mill iirc

[supple bane]

Hmm interesting

[tidal barn]

I picked it up, I'm hitting 30ish Mil to I don't really need to use it

[supple bane]

Might see how it compares to my current

[tidal barn]

I'm not a sniper person either

[wispy merlin]

30 mil with white death?

[sudden matrix]

I mean with a HH build nothing much matters. 30 mil ehhh I think WD will hit up to like 28 mil.

Team buffs sure.

[wispy merlin]

yeah even with exp 24 it's not easily hitting 30m without 321

[supple bane]

What is 321 again?

[wispy merlin]

it's a unicorn build, hard to farm but basically most versatile sniper build rn

3 hotshot 2 habsburg 1 airaldi

[sudden matrix]

It's really not needed.

[supple bane]

"Versatile" hiw?

How*

[sudden matrix]

It's just high damage for e peen.

[wispy merlin]

definitely not needed to hit 30m yeah. if you one shot everything you care about that's enough

that's what i've been telling folks too

[sudden matrix]

The way people need to look at the best snipers is if you can hit and kill a new class of enemy which you typically can't. Almost all of them shoot the same red/purple/yellow enemy on first shot/half stacks and if you don't up or drop class and still one shot everything without a helm it's no different.

The other consideration is can I do the same with and without vigi.

[supple bane]

I think ill stick with what i have for now

Likely going to go for a regulus build next

[tidal barn]

If it works for you, That's all that matters

[sudden matrix]

That's kinda the point I'm making tho, it's easy to get it to work and without unicorn parts for a build people tell you is better when it's objectively the same most the time. If your HH build works then you gud.

[supple bane]

Ik its a conpletely different game but alike destiny 2 my builds would be 'good enuf' and functional rather than min maxed and tuned to death since at some point the time spent will outweigh the benefit

[rugged stratus]

im having a hard time going back to traditional dps sets after headhunter tbh... nothing like 1 shots 💯

[tribal hemlock]

felt the same till i got my hands on an oreo

bzzzzzzt bzzzzzzt

[sudden matrix]

Yeah but clicking heads is so rewarding.

[tribal hemlock]

what? bzzzzzt i can't bzzzzzt hear bzzzzt you

[sudden matrix]

Did a super clean clear of capitol hill lego with a nem last week and man it's just so gud.

[tribal hemlock]

first time i cleared a cp with HH i laughed out loud

[sudden matrix]

I'm now over 150 clears of the incursion, gun is kinda boring. Honestly strikers is pretty boring, I only use it in lego, DH, and countdown.

[tribal hemlock]

yea i'm still in the honeymoon phase

it'll pass i know

[rugged stratus]

im on backup calls a lot and with most running strikers, you can really clear a cp without the others inputting too much. especially when they spawn at distance

[tribal hemlock]

it gets a little annoying when someone runs seekers tho

those heads start bobbing and weaving lol

[sudden matrix]

Idk nothing beats hitting 6+ shots on your regulus HH builds

[rugged stratus]

same with elmo shocking the shit out of them 🍻

[wanton frigate]

oreo gets boring, they removed raid weapon drops which makes incur less enticing to play

[sudden matrix]

Eh it's just EB and Rav which are easy to get.

[tribal hemlock]

i weirdly enjoy it. not as much coordination as raid, doesn't take as long, but the mechanics are fun to get right

[rugged stratus]

@sudden matrix you going for your shepherd rank 25 this season?

[tribal hemlock]

plus it's fun running new people through it and seeing them get the gun

[wanton frigate]

still it was a good way to farm them... i am so jelly before they fixed "raid weapon drop" bug i saw 2 players get the eb..

[tribal hemlock]

i got to rank 80 last year /humblebrag

[rugged stratus]

oh jesus

[sudden matrix]

Maybe after getting like a 7:30 in the incursion.

[rugged stratus]

im only @ 13 atm

[sudden matrix]

brah

[tribal hemlock]

it was... too much

[wanton frigate]

when you join a random back call, to see its some dude doing union on legendary with all directives and hes like shd lv 8 🤣 like i hate bail but sorry

[tribal hemlock]

oh no

you stick through those

if you dont quit i dont quit

[sudden matrix]

What I hate is when people back up call and then keep doing it to fill the group. Just let me get ez hits on my reg hh build bro.

[tribal hemlock]

the only time i quit is when it's those ppl running the same cp and resetting over and over

can't stand that

[wanton frigate]

people do that??

[tribal hemlock]

yea they think it's more efficient or something

like bro can i at least loot the damn box

[wanton frigate]

but why lol

div 2 players are on another spectrum

[tribal hemlock]

well some cps are really close to safehouses. so they think it's faster than traveling to another one. do cp, reset cps, takes you to safehouse, repeat

esp if there's targeted loot there

[rugged stratus]

very common, its a solid xp grind

[tribal hemlock]

takes all the fun out of it imo

just chill for a couple hours and you'll make a ton

[tribal hemlock]

18 right now... didn't even realize it was that high

[rugged stratus]

i usually see low shd doing it primarily to fill out blueprints. i stay long enough for an endorsement then bounce

[sudden matrix]

lol I thought you meant this as your incursion time.

[rugged stratus]

no i dont even have an incursion time 🤣

[wanton frigate]

lol incur randos are horrible

they troll you most of the time

[sudden matrix]

You could try out determined for CHEEZEY times yo.

It's currently broken and procs itself so once you've got it as long as you kill your target it'll refresh the skill.

[supple bane]

ah even that screenshot is outdated

just imagine the white death with determined

[sudden matrix]

Ahh then you know of the cheese.

[supple bane]

i thought it was functioning as intended

[sudden matrix]

Try perfect determined, that's how it should work.

[supple bane]

im assuming its actual headshot gives 1 free headshot and then repeat

[sudden matrix]

Yeah it'll waste the talent and you have to body>head>body

Normal one got "fixed" but talent got consumed on headshot.

[supple bane]

so will it be changed any further?

[sudden matrix]

So they just reverted it back again.

No one is sure. It hasn't ended up in the trello not fixing part yet.

[supple bane]

im guessing trello list (?) is a list of realy good things they wont fix?

[sudden matrix]

https://trello.com/c/kKuCekTu

It's currently in fix live but idk it's probably a back burner issue at this point. They have tried like 3 times to fix it.

[supple bane]

the telesto of division 2

[narrow kraken]

Is incursion worth downloading again?

[sudden matrix]

When was the last time you played and why'd you stop?

[muted ginkgo]

Dev's please change this commendation that opening a chest counts for everyone in the group, not only for the one who's opening it..

[inner tendon]

Wait it doesn't count if someone else does it? That explains a lot.

[muted ginkgo]

No it does not

[inner tendon]

In that case I put a vote out to fix that and the Challenge where you have to open 3 of those in total, which I have had active for 10 floors before and it only procced maybe 1/3.

[muted ginkgo]

If you can do so that would be awesome

[inner tendon]

Actually the mod team on here are not employees, we're just volunteer players who help manage the day-to-day.

[muted ginkgo]

I appreciate the effort. Hope the devs will fix/change it 😄

[thorn hedge]

same

[frigid oasis]

Hello, I have a question

what's the difference between Offensive System and Offensive Protocol Gear mod?

[acoustic lark]

anyone know why its impossible to kick players from incursion? wasted 45 mins on some random who didnt know how to play and didnt wanna leave..

in lobbies there is vote to remove

[sudden matrix]

This legacy from old gear stuff. Just know there is no difference now at all on the max rolls or what they do. If they go in gear they gear mods if they go in skill they are skill mods.

[robust crane]

Returning player here. Whats the best way to get st Elmo's engine right now? I'm doing targeted loot in challenging countdown but I've only seen 1 exotic drop in 15 runs

[random field]

Eclipse protocol cc uses oxidizer or riot foam launcher?

I can't tell from this

[wispy merlin]

riot foam

[random field]

Oh

[wispy merlin]

and fyi, oxidizer is not a status effect and doesn't fit in EP builds

[random field]

What does then?

I was told to go for status chance

On gear with haste

[wispy merlin]

for oxidizer?

[random field]

No for eclipse protocol

[wispy merlin]

riot foam

as i said earlier

[random field]

Alr

And for the second one what to get

[wispy merlin]

EMP sticky, EMP jammer pulse, depends on your needs. riot foam is most common for humans

[thorn hedge]

Riot foam and emp sticky

[tiny stump]

Anyone else continuously getting an "update failed - retrying in 30 seconds" message when trying to open up discord on PC?

[sudden matrix]

Was having issues recently. Cleared up for me.

They are fixing it tho so idk it'll be gud at some point.

[tiny stump]

Fixed it. Nvm

I had a VPN active

[random field]

How do I get vilemask and Scorpio

Countdown?

[supple bane]

from my knowledge of playing ages ago i remember brandsets/gearsets having innate cores on drop... does that information still hold true and if so is ceska innately a red core?

[sudden matrix]

Yes brands have a locked core type that they roll with.

You can find what that is by opening up the spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice in the pinned messages.

Just be aware empress had a bug recently and the backpacks were rolling blue core and not skill like it should have.

[foggy needle]

they drop with fixed cores but you can spend recal to roll it to something else (remember can only recal 1 stat or talent per item though)

[sudden matrix]

Bug should be fixed tomorrow that I mentioned tho.

[rugged stratus]

Depends on use. I use jammer if a lot of warhounds and skill proxy, otherwise I use just burn sticky

[bronze storm]

Keep at it. Pick Assault Rifles as your Targeted Loot option and eventually one will drop. It's faster if you run challenging, and you will also get a chance to get one randomly by opening Exotic caches which you buy with Countdown currency.

I run around 10 Countdown runs every day after raiding and doing some other activities with some new friends in-game and St. Elmo drops frequently.

[narrow kraken]

I got merciless is it good

[fallen onyx]

Is Elmo's bugged on Wright?

Had someone telling me to change my weapon but only thought Scorpio was bugged

[tribal hemlock]

Only Scorpio

[fallen onyx]

Thanks 👍🏻

[robust crane]

Oh I didn't know about the countdown of currency. Thanks for the tip I'll keep at it.

[sudden matrix]

Should be fixed tomorrow tho

[ivory sundial]

to get the mask is to complete just lovebirds with zero downs or the entire incursion with zero downs correct?

[sudden matrix]

Entire incursion.

[ivory sundial]

kk

[lucid mural]

Missing 1 shd tech for Two Bridges safehouse cache, how can I figure out where the heck to find the missing one?
scoured all of nyc

[mellow trout]

I was wondering why I had a battery pack roll blue

[robust crane]

Did they nerf exp on supply convoys?

[wispy merlin]

yes, long ago

[thorn hedge]

Like 3-4 updates ago

[blazing timber]

It was just 2 seasons ago

[thorn hedge]

So 3-4 updates ago

[distant walrus]

What are we expecting for tomorrows update/changes?

[thorn hedge]

@bold tiger

[thorn hedge]

Read the patch notes lol

[blazing timber]

You should clarify as a dev

[bold tiger]

ah, guess i was thinking they had something to do with increasing weapon damage in some way

[distant walrus]

Working that's why lol

[thorn hedge]

If you can be on discord you can read the patch notes .-.

[bold tiger]

here's the link to what they're patching tomorrowhttps://trello.com/c/7aZgKE00/158-november-7th-2023-tu192-patch-notes

[distant walrus]

Thank you

[distant walrus]

Short break, I'm always on the go lol

[narrow kraken]

How do I buy a countdown exotic cache

[mellow trout]

Countdown vendor at the BoO

Outside by the helipad

[narrow kraken]

Thanks m8

[narrow kraken]

Hey how hard would it be to find a raid or incursion group when maintenance is done

[eager abyss]

Can anyone explain Expertise/Proficiency in a very dumbed down way? Like, I have stuff at rank 10, but I've seen someone with "expertise +20% damage" and I have no idea how to get that. That said, I've been level 40 for like, 20 hours maybe, so I probably can't even do it.

[random field]

What's the new update about?

[random field]

Oh wow how are you getting scores in gear?
I stopped getting it after reaching level 31

[rugged stratus]

Probably a hardcore agent

[rugged stratus]

Also #patch-notes

[mellow trout]

This was before warlords

[tidal barn]

My friend dropped me the Nemesis, I have 4 parts I'm going to run the Invaded mission when the servers comes back up can the blueprint still drop even tho I already have it?

[abstract fractal]

Expertise have two system [ Proficiency and Expertise ] Weapon damage gained by Expertise

[eager abyss]

How do you get expertise then?

[rugged stratus]

Your overall expertise level indicates the amount of expertise upgrades you can put on an item.
You raise overall expertise level by making items proficient.
This is done by item or material donations at the expertise bench, as well as using said items.
You'll probably notice some of your current gear you use a lot has a shield with star in middle, this indicates that the item is proficient.
Its 20 items donated to make weapons/ named/exotics proficient.
Its 100 item donations to make gear or brand sets proficient (these can be any combination on vest/bag/knee/holster/glove/mask)

[eager abyss]

Yeah, I get that, but how do you... activate it? Like, is it automatic? If I get two things to Rank 10, will it just ding and apply it? Does it only apply to things I get to rank 10 or is it constant?

I haven't gotten anything else to Rank 10 yet which is why I'm asking, I have no idea what's going to happen and want to make sure I don't miss out. I also want to know if you can improve exotic stats, because you can't use the Library on them, or at least I haven't been able to.

[tribal hemlock]

It's automatic. In theory you could become proficient in every single thing without ever even looking at the expertise screen. Obviously that'll never happen in practice because you likely won't use every single item enough.

To speed up proficiency manually you donate materials at the recalibration bench.

[eager abyss]

...I've just been using random gear...

I'm like 6/10 on my current random assortment of high-grade stuff.

Proficiency is across armor sets right and not the pieces?

Like, I don't need to use Gila Guard gloves I can use any piece?

[tribal hemlock]

Gila is a "brand" and yes it's per brand. You just gotta look at the expertise section of the recalibration bench and it'll make sense.

All the things you can become proficient in are listed there.

[eager abyss]

Honestly, I tried and was just overloaded with info. Downsides of coming back to the game after 1600 days.

But this makes more sense now, thank you.

[tribal hemlock]

Nah there's a lot going on for sure. I wouldn't worry too much about it. You won't miss anything by not paying attention to it now.

Creating your first few good builds is probably more important.

You'll have plenty of time to do expertise, trust me 😂

[eager abyss]

I just wanna do damage, I feel like a wet noodle. Like, 400k crit headshots on a sniper levels of wet noodle.

[tribal hemlock]

Have you seen the build spreadsheet? Pick a build from there.

You can use those builds to learn how to create good builds yourself.

[eager abyss]

Like, "I don't understand why St. Elmo's is even good" levels of wet noodle, because I can barely kill 2 red bars in one mag. It's embarrassing.

[tribal hemlock]

You good at math?

[eager abyss]

Roughly. I've never been one to get into the real nitty-gritty with tenths of a percentage, dedicating that much time to buildcraft isn't something I really care about.

My plan was just to use like, an SMG + memento backpack and figure it out from there. Probably Striker's?

[tribal hemlock]

So there are two ways you can think about builds early on. You can just follow the build spreadsheet and get a sense for it yourself. Or you can try to understand the math behind damage if you're into that kind of thing.

Base damage x Weapon damage bonus x Total weapon damage x (CHD+HSD) x DTOOC x (DTA or DTH) x Amp 1 x Amp 2 x Amp 3

That's the formula for figuring out damage. The reason you feel like a wet noodle is because you don't have enough multipliers on your base damage.

So if you open your inventory, click Stats, and look at critical hit chance... I bet that's super low. Or crit damage is super low.

I would start with a basic AR striker build. It's the type of build that'll be useful forever and it's easy to put together.

4pc Striker with backpack. Ceska chest with w/e talent you want (obliterate is best). Grupo mask. Replace Grupo mask with exotic Coyote's Mask when you get it.

If a piece has one attribute make it CHD (so all Striker pieces). If it has two attributes it should be CHC and CHD.

For mods on your gear (mask, chest, backpack) start by using CHD mods. Replace those with CHC mods to keep yourself above 50% CHC.

So yea super basic. All red cores. CHC/CHD on everything. Be above 50% CHC and 100% CHD. Done.

[eager abyss]

How do you get mods, anyways? I've been bumming around with like, 4% CHC mods from level 30.

[tribal hemlock]

Targeted loot from the map. Or run Countdown with targeted loot. Or Summit.

4% CHC mod is fine. The most important thing is to have the right attributes, not max attributes.

[eager abyss]

I didn't know you could target mods :0

[tribal hemlock]

Because the best CHC mod you can get is 6%.

For the gun run an AR not an SMG. Preferably with Fast Hands (faster reload = more damage applied over time). ARs are better at range which gives you more flexibility.

Famas/Carbine 7/Police M4 are the best. Elmo is just a "modded" M4. If you have an Elmo already then it's top tier and you're good.

[eager abyss]

Yeah, I've got Elmo. It's stats aren't maxed out though.

[tribal hemlock]

Doesn't matter. But you should re-craft it to have Damage to Target Out of Cover. Pretty much all of your guns should have that.

If you look at the formula above... DTTOOC is one of the multipliers.

The way you get damage is by adding as many multipliers to that formula in your build as you can, basically.

[eager abyss]

Re-craft? Like, is that using the Recal Library or is that something else

[tribal hemlock]

So at the White House you visit the crafting bench. There's a lady sitting there, forgot her name. Inya? Enya? Inua? When you get an exotic you can buy a crafting blueprint from her for it.

Then you can go to the crafting bench and craft the exotic there. But to craft the exotic you need to give up that exotic. So you're essentially rerolling it.

[eager abyss]

And I imagine other materials

[tribal hemlock]

Yea but it's not that bad IIRC. I never get stuck crafting exotics like I do when I optimize stuff.

[eager abyss]

Hm, I imagine I'll have to do more Countdown for mats anyways...

[tribal hemlock]

Countdown isn't that good for mats

What SHD level are you?

[eager abyss]

Don't the Hunter guys drop them?

LIke, 35 my guy.

[tribal hemlock]

So the best way to get mats right now is do a series of control points in the middle of the map. There are a tooooon of mat boxes to pick up there.

It starts at the downed airplane near the Capitol building

[mellow trout]

only a bit

[tribal hemlock]

What I'd do is start there, call for backup, build up a crew of 4 killers, and move west. Pillaging the lands and eating all the babies.

Solar Farm control point is where you'll get a ton of stuff. But there's a lot on the way too.

[random field]

Are the servers online yet?

[tribal hemlock]

#server-status message

[random field]

Oh it's up

[eager abyss]

For overworld, what difficulty should I be going for if I want to achieve this? Like, I imagine higher difficulty is higher drops.

And should I get a build together, at least somewhat, BEFORE or after doing this?

[eager abyss]

Like this first or nah

[tribal hemlock]

As high as you can handle honestly. Start with Hard and if it feels easy go to Challenging. Over time you'll run those CPs so much you'll memorize spawns and all that.

Striker is targeted loot at Jefferson Plaza right now. Just rerun that at w/e difficulty you feel comfortable at.

If you want send me an inv and I'll run a quick challenging countdown w/ you and drop w/e Striker I get.

[eager abyss]

I'm about to sleep, but thank you for the offer.

I will use this information and cease being a wet noodle. Perhaps a dry noodle. Like rigatoni.

[tribal hemlock]

spaghetti monster

[rugged stratus]

As your rank climbs, proficient items can take upgrades to your specific expertise level.
So if you are expertise 3, for example, you can apply up to 3% for whatever you are upgrading.
Weapons are raw wd %
Gear is base armor % (not including and blue cores)
And skills are a specific attribute % that will be listed in the expertise bench

[rugged stratus]

On this same note you can technically get to expertise 21 with no items proficient ( assuming 9/10 proficiency on all items) 🤔

[thorn hedge]

Ping

[tribal hemlock]

Pong

[blazing timber]

Wrong channel right ping

[upbeat coral]

Someone here to confirm that Incursion Boss Wright is now Fixed?

[tribal hemlock]

confirmed scorpio works now

also confirmed martinez drops commendation

saw some new weird stuff w/ wright but nothing game breaking

[sudden matrix]

Stuff?

[tribal hemlock]

we were trying to do the usual 1 phase thing and couldn't get it to work... buuut that server was behaving really weird

the timing was good multiple times and he stayed immune after the "follow up" shower

[sudden matrix]

But it kinda worked or you couldn't get it to at all?

[tribal hemlock]

couldn't get it to work but only tried a few times

he also temporarily went immune after losing his armor after last segment

haven't seen either of those things before

[sudden matrix]

So at the very last segment he went immune for a sec?

[tribal hemlock]

a few sec yea

[sudden matrix]

oh no... mah speeds.

[tribal hemlock]

thing is other weird stuff was happening on that server

[thorn hedge]

isnt that normal

btw who thinks leaderboards should be reset each season

[sudden matrix]

So for last phase as long as you get him past the last tick you can just kill him, sounds like he went immune there for a sec.

[thorn hedge]

that sounds normal

[tribal hemlock]

yes after last segment you should be able to keep damaging him

[thorn hedge]

im confused

[tribal hemlock]

it felt weird compared to other runs

[sudden matrix]

#td2-general-chat message

See here lol

[tribal hemlock]

i am a banana

[thorn hedge]

kestrel dm me

[sudden matrix]

Oh poor nugster

[sudden matrix]

Scuff but you got it tho lol

[tribal hemlock]

lol yea the bloody knuckles came in clutch

it was with a random group

[sudden matrix]

Yeah lacking sledge the entire time lol

[tribal hemlock]

yeppp

[thorn hedge]

sledge shmedge

[tribal hemlock]

if you're one phasing it's usually good to avoid sledge anyway

b/c you'll have enough dps to get him down w/o it and you dont wanna overdo it

[sudden matrix]

If you one phasing fast you want sledge.

You are clearing ads while doing the boss at the same time so we have one drop DCH on him and then another and then two at the end to finish in "one shot".

There is a bunch going on like OC and Achilles and stuff too and then the chunga kill to open door and nyoooom on out of there.

[narrow kraken]

So I know the famas is the best assault rifle and the acs12 is the best shotgun, what's the best in the other categories

[thorn hedge]

hold up acs12 is not the best shotgun lmfao

m870 is

[narrow kraken]

Wait then why is everyone saying use it for strikera

[thorn hedge]

its not for the damage its for the fact it outputs lots of rounds quickly

and that 1 mag = 20 rounds = 160 striker stacks

[sudden matrix]

It does infact put out tons of damage too.

[thorn hedge]

less than m870

anyways

MMR white death/nemesis, SMG ouroboros, rifle classic M1A, sidearm regulus

LMG i cant remember if its bluescreen iron lung or GR9

[narrow kraken]

Is blue screen or st elmos better for strikers

[thorn hedge]

elmo

[sudden matrix]

M870 is only good on HH or builds made to use it.

[thorn hedge]

its the best damage shotgun

if you think thats invalid to call it the "best shotgun" then its more valid to say there is no best of any weapon category except smg

[sudden matrix]

It is the best shotgun in this case tho and that's why people use it for strikers, we all know that.

You wouldn't suggest this guy use an M870 on strikers for damage right?

[narrow kraken]

I am going to keep an 870 for other builds though like my HB build

[inner tendon]

Absolutely not good for building stacks on Striker, no.

[thorn hedge]

i wouldnt suggest using a shotgun for damage over an AR period

[inner tendon]

acs-12 is the best, six12 seems to be fairly popular too for building stacks.
and yeah, you kinda need an AR for the damage dealing, simply put: the firerate increase ruins a shotgun's DPS potential.

[thorn hedge]

^

[inner tendon]

Ouroboros is a wide exception for SMG's in Striker.
It'd be like saying that scorpio exists, so you can pick a random shotgun to use in any build.

and as always, I fully expect an EB style nerf to hit it before too long.

[sudden matrix]

The acs has a higher DPS than all ARs and SMGs if you don't count one little double stuffed guy. The total mag damage along with stacks it is BIS for strikers so in the context of best shotgun this person was originally referring to I'd say they are right.

But this is also a general BIS, there is a lot of content and ways to play stuff.

[thorn hedge]

Wdym double stuffed

[sudden matrix]

Ouro

[thorn hedge]

Ah

[sudden matrix]

Ya know cause oreo

[thorn hedge]

@sudden matrix apparently setup and closer drop from cps

[sudden matrix]

Did you just find out about this?

I had someone tell me about it like 4 hours ago lol.

[thorn hedge]

idk im doing schoolwork rn

[sudden matrix]

Yurp, am at work yo.

[rustic sorrel]

whats the third ranked dps build behind striker and heartbreaker?

[wispy merlin]

negotiator's dilemma, not really behind heartbreaker or striker (tbh HB is third in the 3)

[rustic sorrel]

how about hunters fury?

[thorn hedge]

How about we stop tryna rank builds designed for different things

Lol

[wispy merlin]

yeah they all have niches they are strong in, in each of them only one of them will be best

[thorn hedge]

Except rigger

[rustic sorrel]

i know theyre designed for different things but im just curious were certain builds rank in dps

[wispy merlin]

HF is a cqc set with good damage and built-in survivability and CC

[thorn hedge]

If we're talking DPS then snipers out does everything by factors of thousands

[wispy merlin]

okay, to blow your mind, HF is lowest in "DPS" but is speedrun meta

its multiplier is lower than striker or HB

so don't compare them by DPS but get all of them and find out where each is strong in

[thorn hedge]

Because insta kill is ∞ dps

[rustic sorrel]

is striker the best for just casually playing the game and wanting to do lots of dmg?

[thorn hedge]

Yes

[rustic sorrel]

ok thanks

[bronze storm]

What's the use of the key found in the incursion?

[thorn hedge]

The chest found in the incursion

When you complete the incursion you open the door on the stage and open the box

10% chance of OuroBoros

[thorn hedge]

Depends on your definition of dps

[sudden matrix]

Most people just wanna see big crits lol

[clever fjord]

Is it based on a chance to get it or 100%?

[thorn hedge]

idfk lol

[sudden matrix]

CP4 you'll get them.

It's from the box opening tho so do one that has supplies available.

[broken sinew]

What would you guys recommend me to focus levelling next on my shd levels, skill duration or skill haste?

[rugged stratus]

100%

[rugged stratus]

if you already have skill damage go haste

[broken sinew]

Gotcha, ty

[inner tendon]

@thorn hedge Here ya go, "Glasswork".

[thorn hedge]

oh mosaic

not my fav skin in the world but definitely not bad in design

i prefer my white jade lol

[viscid dagger]

That's fair
They definitely need to continue with these bundles tho

[inner tendon]

I don't recognise White Jade, I assume it's from a Season Pass that I didn't get the premium of.

[viscid dagger]

It was from season 9
The first one after they resumed support

[thorn hedge]

yeah

wait no

[thorn hedge]

it was from season 6

i remember definitely getting it from 6

[viscid dagger]

I saw a reddit post showing the rewards and it said from season 9 idk

[thorn hedge]

i remember getting it from 6

[viscid dagger]

Same pass also had this
Kinda cool tbh

[thorn hedge]

that skin is hella tacky (lavender)

not as bad as the rose KSG skin though

[inner tendon]

I like a lot of those, but the big problem for me is that the guns that they're locked to mostly just kinda suck

[viscid dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/s/2hcRRF9f3Q

Says s9

[thorn hedge]

idfk i got some white death skin from season 6

[viscid dagger]

The gems vector skin is still unmatched

[inner tendon]

That is incredibly true (although Manhunt is still the best overall that isn't just ivory/pure black)
Although for sheer audacity, the f2k AR golden skin comes 20% closer than any other.

[thorn hedge]

best skin is circuitboard for the kingbreaker

[narrow kraken]

Earlier someone answered this with exotics so like
What are the best non-exotic weapons of each type I should keep
I started saving famas and 870 and acs12

[sudden matrix]

C7, Police M4, kingbreaker, white death, mop, 870 should have pummel version and insync, tdi kard custom, D50, M1A classic and CQB, uh probs some more others might add.

[broken sinew]

Has anyone else had trouble making the wraith mask hunter spawn? I’ve tried it around 5 times now and nothing yet. I’m here after 9pm, shot out the 2 lights and used the salute emote from behind the flagpole in different positions and the guy just refuses to spawn. Is there something i’m missing?

[thorn hedge]

That's just hoarding souless

That one's always been a lil bugged sam lol

[broken sinew]

Damn sad times, maybe next time then lol

[sudden matrix]

What else do you put in your stash?

300 13% PFE mods?

[thorn hedge]

my builds

[supple bane]

so i just did a level 4 true sons control point but no inverted leather holder. do i need to do it at like hard and above or is it just rng?

[thorn hedge]

DCH project?

[supple bane]

im assuming dch = dodge city holster and if so yes

sorted. did a challenging level 4 true sons control point

[thorn hedge]

If it's level 4 it's not challenging lol

[cobalt zephyr]

so this is totally normal ?

[bronze storm]

Does the incursion reset the same as the weekly reset?

I did it 2 days ago and got the Ouroboros. I cleared it now with another group and we couldn't open the chest. We got the key in the hall with the stairs, but once I reached the chest there was no key to use for me and one of my friends.

[tribal hemlock]

I think you can only open the chest once a week and the timer starts from the last time you did it.

I ran Incursion with a group before and after the weekly reset and none of us could open the chest before and after.

[thorn hedge]

did you run it today

[bronze storm]

We just cleared it.

[thorn hedge]

wack

[nimble spruce]

I've heard rumours that having directives turned on can mess up some hunter spawns, so maybe try turning them off first.

[tiny stump]

seen this one for the pdr?

[viscid dagger]

That looks pretty good

[tiny stump]

yea its all like.. royal

[formal coral]

does the jammer pulse work against the turrets at the start of the incursion like the emp chem launcher?

[wanton frigate]

90% certain they do could be wrong

[thorn hedge]

yes but ridiculously short time

[pale summit]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tiny stump]

it might speed up proficiency leveling if you're wearing the piece you want to make proficient. directives give more xp and higher xp should level up proficiency faster. i think.

[pale summit]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tidal barn]

Brand sets / gear set, 3/4 runs of countdown per set to max it out

That’s what was easier for me

[eager abyss]

...I know it's all random, but when you open 5 Exotic Caches and get 5 Go-Bags... hm.

Or is it tied to ones you;ve found before?

[true siren]

nah ur just hella unlucky

[tribal hemlock]

see: monte carlo fallacy

[narrow kraken]

Hey if I open the incursion chest on one character can I do it again on another

I've only had the game a week

[remote wadi]

is it also less rewards if I havent managed to grip on the extraction at the end part of countdown?
or is it the same when time runs out?

[tribal hemlock]

yep. if you have 4 characters you can open the chest 4 times per week.

[tribal hemlock]

you get bonus countdown requisition for extracting so it's less rewards if you don't extract

[narrow kraken]

I'm not doing that 30-40 slog again any time soon

[remote wadi]

uh oh thanks

[tribal hemlock]

yea that's fair. it can be an annoying 3-4 hours. when you're up for it though it's definitely worth it because every time you level up all of your characters will get a watch point

so you get 4x boost to watch points

[narrow kraken]

Also the incursion wasn't that hard for a week long player are raids harder

[rancid dirge]

Yes. As far as proficiency it doesn’t. Reds purples yellows have a set proficiency xp gain as far as npc’s go. So to gain proficiency faster, increase difficulty to get as many yellows (or elites) as possible. But if you’re after xp and not proficiency, then add directives as you can handle.

[rain echo]

Dark hours is an easy raid all you need is a solid dps build and your good

Iron horse is a little bit more difficult and requires more communication and different builds. Iron horse has more mechanics then DH

You need at least 1 tank for 2nd encounter in Iron horse

[narrow kraken]

Hey is mantis good? I just got 2

[rain echo]

If your running a HH build yes

HH means headhunter

[distant walrus]

Remind me again, is it possible to get ST Elmo AR in countdown???

[true siren]

yes

[narrow kraken]

I got two the other day

[narrow kraken]

Not a hotshot build?

[distant walrus]

Perfect thank you 👍🏻 now ik what to farm next

[rugged stratus]

you use headhunter chest with hotshot

[distant walrus]

Wait, follow up question, would I have needed to play last season to get it? Or that doesn't matter?

[inner tendon]

Once an Exotic that was in a Season Pass is either collected or the Season is over, it gets added to the LZ (main game) loot pool.

e,g, Coyotes, Elmo, etc.

[true siren]

doesnt matter

[distant walrus]

Thank god

[distant walrus]

Ah I see

[tribal hemlock]

Has anyone had a hard fought flawless Incursion run? Just finished mine. Random matchmaking, ~20 attempts. All teammates were <300 SHD with not fully optimized builds. We celebrated hard lol that was awesome.

Almost every death was to Wright chungas :[

[twilit otter]

Almost had flawless, two teammates went down on lovebirds I was so sad

Random matchmaking too

[tribal hemlock]

We had some tragic downs. Was it the artillery that got them?

[twilit otter]

We did the gate strategy to play it safe and almost had martinez dead but he called mortar and downed them

Weird thing was it didn't show the mortar hit marker on the ground, so I don't think they realized it was coming

Had another attempt but the healer went down during wright and then everyone gave up after the clear

[tribal hemlock]

If you do that strat you should only have to worry about the two arty strikes in the beginning. After you dodge those you DPS martinez then kill the drone after she's down 1 armor segment. After that you just need enough DPS to finish her off before johnson fixes the drone.

[twilit otter]

I've done that plenty of times, it was just bad luck this time

[wanton frigate]

they usually spawn on the outer area(dance hall, bar, dinning) if you stay back stage for the final part you can stay alive easily.

[wanton frigate]

because gate strat mortar can go off camera, making them hard to spot.

[twilit otter]

That's why I like the regular strategy because of stuff like that

Most matchmade groups stay back, so I just go along with it

[wanton frigate]

for my run we had dual ouros and i just procd sledgehammer. we went mid and melted both lovebirds. easiest and fastest final boss i had ever done

[twilit otter]

Dual ouros melts

Doing a run right now, looking okay for the moment

Nvm someone died lol

[mellow trout]

Bought the art deco pack and didn't get the mask💀😭

[random field]

Glass canon works on skills?

[true siren]

yes

[distant walrus]

I just got the St. Elmo 😤🗿! In countdown

[true siren]

cool

[distant walrus]

I'm sorry it's the excitement

[random field]

Hacks

[distant walrus]

Heroic countdown ☠️

[random field]

I only play heroic

Literally no exotic cursed luck

[bronze grove]

I've done thousands and have only ever gotten 2

[distant walrus]

I just kept going dismantling everything until I saw the red drop lol. Wasn't even a named enemy just a strong yellow regular lol

[bronze grove]

Scorpio and liberty

I just want the components game y u bully me

[random field]

I want the cat mask looking exotic

[true siren]

?

[bronze grove]

Cat mask?

Coyotes?

Vile maybe?

[random field]

Vile I think?

I have coyo

[supple bane]

Gratz. Took me like 1 or 2 while having assault rifles targeted

[bronze grove]

The vile is the respirator

[true siren]

...doesnt look like a cat to me

[bronze grove]

You didn't get it when it was in seasons

[supple bane]

I didnt play for like 1 yr+

[bronze grove]

Wish vile was better

[random field]

Ah I guess the other dude had a skin on it

[distant walrus]

It took me like maybe 6 heroic runs with AR targeted ☠️

[bronze grove]

Vile is only used on some status builds nowadays

[true siren]

i mean its good for status effect builds

[supple bane]

I did challenging because quicker matchmaking

[true siren]

"oh yeah the status effect mask, wonder where i'm gonna use it"

[bronze grove]

It's damage is just too low for even challenging so it never gets used besides low difficulties

[distant walrus]

I switch once and a while but the heroic does the job, didn't think it would but it did, even if it was a fail in the end. I still picked it up lol

[true siren]

it was never used on anything other than status effect builds, and having another source of dmg is good enough

[bronze grove]

Key word was some

[true siren]

theres not really a reason to not use it, it is free extra damage

[bronze grove]

It isn't even used as frequently anymore because burn just goes further with other pieces

[supple bane]

For oxidiser builds do you prefer skill damage over status effects since oxidiser isnt considered a status effect

[bronze grove]

Ye

[supple bane]

Ok

[bronze grove]

I can send u mine tonight if you want

[supple bane]

Pls

Also is catharsis used for anything useful in pve?

[true siren]

"Burn just goes further with other peices" there arent any other exotics that are worth using that boost fire apart from waveform, and that isnt great for status builds

[bronze grove]

Some people use it on hybrid or legendary tank builds

[supple bane]

Hmmm

[bronze grove]

Exactly most people just don't use an exotic

[supple bane]

What about a fraser (idk the forge iron horse boss) tanking?

[bronze grove]

For oxis you have to learn to use it