ask-td2-community

[frail wadi]

And on what difficulty should I do it? I'm only SHD 22, trying to get a set going

[thorn hedge]

Highest you can

[blazing timber]

satisfaction

[humble tartan]

Huh so just like summit legendary you get nothing sigh.

Thanks

[nimble spruce]

You get a backpack dangly

[blazing timber]

satisfaction you cleared the hardest legendary the bagpack trophy if you like it maybe yes

[plucky mesa]

Hardest difficulties aren't about rewards, they're about challenging content.

[frail wadi]

which attributes should I try to prioritise as a technician?

[inner tendon]

your "Spec Tree" (e.g. Technician) should be part of your overall build, so what do you need from it in your build?

[tiny stump]

getting the 1 skill tier on that tree is a good one

[inner tendon]

Sure, but to what purpose? The overall build is important.

the bulk of builds using Technician these days is probably due to the underbarrel Spec Laser.

[blazing timber]

tech laser pointer and artificer is the best use out of tech spec

[frail wadi]

no, i meant attributes on gear. i am only shd 28 and got a few duplicates with random attributes, i was wondering which ones i should prio, like skill haste > repair skills etc. sorry

[blazing timber]

skill haste is better for collection but you will eventually get everything

[wispy merlin]

then it's just a general build issue, specializations like technician don't really influence what stats you put on.

[inner tendon]

What do you want to do with your build? And what is your current level?

[wispy merlin]

they said shd 28 above, if you missed it

[frail wadi]

i don't think i really have an aim, currently just leveling this spec, still figuring it out. and yes i am shd 28

[blazing timber]

which spec you are referring too i thought you were asking about Library

[wispy merlin]

technician lmao

[blazing timber]

technican doesn't have skill haste must be talking about shd watch

[frail wadi]

some items have it

idk

[wispy merlin]

they never asked about skill haste, they asked what stats to put on technician, which i answered doesn't really matter, it's the build not the spec that dictates them

[tiny stump]

yeah thats a secondary attribute on gear pieces

[blazing timber]

asking regarding a build /recalibration Library?

[wispy merlin]

your spec aside from a few perks, dictates very minimally how strong your build is. in other words stats and spec aren't really tied together

as for which stats to put on your build, again it depends what you want to go for. as a new player you should aim for a dps build

[frail wadi]

okay i get it, thanks for the help 🥰

[wispy merlin]

there is a pinned spreadsheet at #td2-build-advice but generally those go with critical hit chance/damage stats

[blazing timber]

you really see through players with that @wispy merlin

[keen pelican]

Even with the DS4 windows tool the PS5 controller is not working...

[thorn hedge]

PlayStation controllers don't like windows

Have you tried google

[keen pelican]

Not found regarding division 2, but i saw only 2 solutions ds4 tool and steam
Both are not working

[earnest scroll]

did you enable controller in division 2 ingame settings

[keen pelican]

Yes

PS5 controller's touch pad only worked

[rugged stratus]

Maybe it's a sign

Not meant to be 😅

[earnest scroll]

ive not used ps5 controller before but usually ds4 makes everything usable for every programm since it emulates xbox controller and that usually works with windows, so id assume that you did something with the settings wrong unless im missing something with ps5 controllers that makes ds4 not work

did you google the issue

[keen pelican]

I will check again

There is another software I saw
DualSenseX Windows

[thorn hedge]

Windows moment

[tame basin]

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/the-division-2/purchases-and-rewards/article/supported-peripherals-for-the-division-2/000063548#:~:text=Peripherals Supported%3A Windows-compatible keyboard,mouse%2C headset%2C optional controller.

[thorn hedge]

Dualsense is there

[dense arrow]

whats the best way to get optimization blueprints?

[thorn hedge]

Farming control points

[dense arrow]

can they be level 1?

[thorn hedge]

3 or 4 only

[dense arrow]

sorry, barely played back when i did so idk how to get alot of the new stuff

oh

does difficulty matter for chances or nah?

[thorn hedge]

It needs to be 3 or 4

That's the difficulty of it lol

3 is challenging 4 is heroic

[dense arrow]

oh lmfao i barely played back when i did

[wispy merlin]

always 100% chance

[thorn hedge]

But the bp you get is completely random

[wispy merlin]

yep, so keep spamming them

[neon hare]

Is that secret vendor, Mendoza ?

Or whats it called ?

When it spwans ?

[thorn hedge]

cassie yeah

[neon hare]

Where ussualy is on the map ?

[thorn hedge]

there isnt a set location it changes

and you cant get to it without finding the snitch either

[neon hare]

Is it on right now ?

[thorn hedge]

it always is

[sudden matrix]

Might mean open.

She does have open/closed times but I forget what they are. Gotta find the snitch first.

[thorn hedge]

^

[neon hare]

She does it seems

[thorn hedge]

no she does lol

[neon hare]

Right now she's in Foggy Bottom next to Navy CP

[thorn hedge]

she will open and close and change location

[neon hare]

But its closed rn

[thorn hedge]

im pretty sure the location can be different per person could be wrong about that though

[neon hare]

Want screenshot ?

[thorn hedge]

either way you cant even access her without finding the snitch or joining someone who already had

[neon hare]

Found the snitch just now

Look

So ? 🙂

[thorn hedge]

cool

[neon hare]

The Snitch gave me a bounty. Do i have to doit ? Is it tied to opening the vendor ?

[thorn hedge]

no

[sudden matrix]

Ask 2 part question get a no lol

[thorn hedge]

no squared

[sudden matrix]

The bounty isn't tied to anything, you just needed to interact with the snitch which gives you cassies location. You'll have to do this every week. You can join someones game who has located her too. If you open her inventory and there is nothing do the closest proximity control point and she should have inventory after that.

[tiny stump]

i suddenly cant find my red FI piece with chc that just needed one more optimization. i guess its gone. accidentally deleted i guess. but i just took one shot at the targeted loot map and got this within a minute of starting the mission. easy farming

[brazen mountain]

No squared = no x 2 or no x no 🤔

[thorn hedge]

its nono

no multiplication sign or parenthesis indicates that it is multiplication

no no = nono = no squared

[subtle mist]

can I ask, I'm coming back after being on and off frequently i remember being told that the way for me to get the blueprints for previous seasons gear is just to run control points and get lucky yes?

[thorn hedge]

thats not true

[subtle mist]

is there a way for me to get the blueprints of previous seasons gear at all?

[thorn hedge]

past season blueprints can only be acquired by descent

12% drop change at nemesis, 41% drop chance at floor 31 iirc

next update they are buffing the 12% to 50

[subtle mist]

descent being the nbew gaemmode I don't have unlocked yet i assume

[thorn hedge]

it unlocks at like level 14

or something like that

[nimble spruce]

descent gives blueprints for named items, but I don't think it does for old season gearsets or brandsets

[subtle mist]

let me rephrased the mode I need to donate the electronics for

[nimble spruce]

yeah you need to donate a minor amount of electronics at the start

[thorn hedge]

isnt it like 30

[nimble spruce]

it's something pretty small iirc

[thorn hedge]

yeah

so small i dont even remember it xD

[quick sedge]

So... is there a rogue-esque looking commendation badge? If so, how do you get it?

[subtle mist]

what is it that dismantle sinto electronics again? is it the skill parts?

[civic lily]

gear mods? That's printer filament

[rugged stratus]

Hit solar farm control point and immediate surrounding daily. Lots of materials caches, all types. Refreshes on nightly reset.
NYC also good for mats just running around.
Idk what gives elec on decon tho.

[nova granite]

Does the Faye Lau's mission exploit been fixed?
If I exploit it would I get suspended & my shd level would reset?

[tidal spoke]

Yes

[tidal spoke]

Ur best bet is 5 directives heroic control point+hostage siguations+propagandas anything else u can ignore

[rain echo]

is this worth the pickup

[rugged stratus]

Worth buying 18 and making it proficient

17 actually

[rain echo]

ill just waste some extra mats i have

i picked it up for my alt toon

[rugged stratus]

Whenever you get into watch points cash is cheapest for items. But extra mats are extra mats 👍

[rain echo]

also is this a good roll and what should i swap rate of fire for?

aww the talent is useless

perpuation

well rip

[tiny stump]

rate of fire wouldnt be bad if you optimized it

then changed the talent

[civic lily]

For demolitions builds yeah

[rugged stratus]

@rain echo did you check the CD vendor? Iirc there is a harmony there this week

[civic lily]

reroll that to a skill tier

[rugged stratus]

That's a lot of optimizations .

[tiny stump]

yeah not worth it for that gun

even tho its a very good lmg

if it drops right

[rain echo]

i already have a god roll harmony for my alt

[narrow matrix]

That’s a good roll personally, you got the other 2 slots maxed

[tiny stump]

yea but its stuck with a bad talent if you change the third attribute

[fallow inlet]

Good Evening everyone, hope you're having a good Night

[blazing timber]

good morning saph

[bronze berry]

Hey Saph

[worldly fjord]

Is it possible to join a descent match in progress on pc?

[blazing timber]

was possible

the exploit was about it able to join a player in descent and gain 1000s of shd

[worldly fjord]

Yeah but didn't they patch the xp?

[wispy merlin]

that's why he said "was"

[hoary hinge]

Anyone know why the rigger set has a BTSU symbol?

[inner tendon]

It's actually not quite the Black Tusk logo.

I think it's supposed to look a bit like climbing gear, hence the "rigger" part.

[viscid root]

Perhaps a control knob with connections to two skills at the ends of the lines coming out of it?

[keen pelican]

Steam + DS4 tool = few keys work and other need to config on steam, but aim is not working.

Steam + DSX = aim and skills working remaining not working

[blazing timber]

bruh just use Mk like true pc gamer i have heard controller crashes the game

tru asking someone who have used controller

[keen pelican]

I'm always🖱️⌨️ player 😂

[blazing timber]

🖱️ ⌨️ FTW

[narrow kraken]

Can you still get these masks

[worldly fjord]

i know deceit can

[quick sedge]

It's far from the only one with explicit black tusk logo-ing but I'm pretty sure that Rigger, Negotiator and Aces sets are basically repurposed BTSU gear.

We also have some of their tech as defences in the white house along with ballistic shields bearing their logo

[hoary hinge]

All this gear in the white house and not a single JTF soldier can put on a plate carrier and head cover.

[hoary hinge]

Both obtainable, but you need wony iirc

[narrow kraken]

Litt say no more

[quick sedge]

Welp, we've got the equipment, doesn't mean JTF aren't idiots tho

[nimble spruce]

Want the auspice mask from the season track? I know you can get deceit from the Schaeffer manhunt mission though

[hoary hinge]

Bring 3 friends and a ton of riot foam/shock rounds, and scorpio if you have it. You'll need it.

[quick sedge]

Yeah deceit is in the manhunt

So long as you don't die to him. If you do it becomes a regular combat encounter tho

[narrow kraken]

Oh no i have no such thing im still level 23

[hoary hinge]

immobilizers are your best friend for these guys

[narrow kraken]

I still doing story

[hoary hinge]

do not even ATTEMPT a hunter kill until you're past wony or have a lot of friends to carry you

you WILL suffer, A LOT

[narrow kraken]

Oh ik i was just wondering

[hoary hinge]

go farm countdown or summit and get yourself a st elmo's or scorpio first

scorpio is your priority, its possibly the most useful exotic rn

[narrow kraken]

I was gonna make a sniper build after wony

[quick sedge]

Elmos, Scorpio, EMP, anything that can stun. Also, if you're doing basic story you can't even spawn hunters, and if you're doing Wony then you're multiplayer locked if you boosted to 30.

[hoary hinge]

good in div 1, not good in div 2. sniping in div 2 is force recon at best. go for a red build with smg/shotgun/AR

lmgs are also a decent choice but the suppress mechanic is iffy

[narrow kraken]

Yea thats annoying

[quick sedge]

Also sniper builds are good but a hunter has aimbot, so they'll often down you before you can even line up a shot. Speaking from experience.

[hoary hinge]

yup. also if you unlock gunner spec, bring your banshee pulse or emp pulses, because the hunters will spam like 3-4 skills

don't use striker drones or turrets because they can hack it and turn them against you

[quick sedge]

If you're Hunter hunting, you definitely want an assault rifle/smg with gunner, banshee pulse, and either umbra, strikers, or a decent high end.

[narrow kraken]

Whats the best gear farm if solo

[hoary hinge]

if you have friends, reviver hive is good because sometimes you'll be pinned down and you won't be able to go to your friend if they die

[narrow kraken]

Countdown seems difficult

[hoary hinge]

summit

[narrow kraken]

Can i do targeted loot

[hoary hinge]

summit but be prepared to rage and seethe

[hoary hinge]

yes

[narrow kraken]

Littttt

[quick sedge]

It's really not. So long as you don't get stuck with people who don't really have a clue.

[hoary hinge]

go for striker's battlegear first, run red build with it

[narrow kraken]

Ik but i play solo

[hoary hinge]

bad choice!

[quick sedge]

Countdown is good for exotic farming but regular gear, yeah use summit. And countdown you can matchmake.

[hoary hinge]

:kek:

[quick sedge]

It's a multiplayer gamemode

[narrow kraken]

Plus i heard this one dude got kicked bc his watch level wasnt high

[quick sedge]

That was one guy. So long as you're competent most people don't care about watch level.

[hoary hinge]

ignore those guys they're terrible and most of the time they suck anyways. they dont watch each other's back and just go straight to vulture loot. they kick low level players because they expect others to watch and cover them

[narrow kraken]

Wait people can steal your loot in countdown

[hoary hinge]

@narrow kraken if you wanna summit farm with me you can

[quick sedge]

Watch level ≠ skill. Seen so many people think that but it's just not true.

[narrow kraken]

Im on ps

[hoary hinge]

no loot is still client sided but they'll be running around everywhere picking up loot drops

[narrow kraken]

Ohhhh i see

[quick sedge]

I've outplayed level 1000+'s and I'm only level 200.

[narrow kraken]

Also I haven’t even unlocked summit

[hoary hinge]

I've outplayed level 500s at level 12.

[quick sedge]

It's like any mmo, rank means nothing when it comes to actual skill

The levels help with builds, yeah. But basic content like countdown and challenging difficulty? So long as you've got a decent enough set of gear, it's essentially just your basic difficulty.

[hoary hinge]

fair. best gear sets to get are:

general red/damage: striker
sniper red build: aces and eights
tank/debuff: true patriot
skill build/skill damage: hardwired or rigger, personally i like rigger
general damage and debuff: heartbreaker

do correct me if im wrong here

[narrow kraken]

For sniper is hotshot or w.e its called not good

Ive seen alot of people use it for headshot sniper builds

[hoary hinge]

aces is not bad for sniper either, it buffs your headshot damage by 30% and also generally increases marksman rifle damage by 15%, plus the general damage buffs from the red core

also aces being a black tusk gear set makes it look pretty amazing

[narrow kraken]

Mmmm i see well rn everything is just a dream

I have to obtain the gear and that’ll take awhile

[quick sedge]

If you can aim or are abusing Determined then hotshots is better than aces

[hoary hinge]

big if there HAHA personally I suck at leading shots and hitting moving targets so I went for aces

[narrow kraken]

Yea that was the build i was going for perfect determined with perfect headhunter and then hotshot 3pc i think

And then everything like headshot damage

[quick sedge]

Perfect is worse than regular.

Regular determined procs off itself. Perfect doesn't

[narrow kraken]

Does it

Thats good to know

[quick sedge]

Yeah, tested it extensively

[narrow kraken]

Also frees up exotic slot

[quick sedge]

I don't tend to run exotics, unless it's absolutely necessary. For example, Scorpio or Elmo's for Hunters

[narrow kraken]

Yea also the gun looked ugly i was honestly gonna settle for less anyway

[hoary hinge]

run named weapons in lieu of exotics cos most exotics are pretty goofy anyways

some have fun gimmicks tho like sweet dreams, oh boy

[quick sedge]

Plus if it's a regular talent, you can pretty much just recal it to any gun you want.

Whereas perfects are usually locked to named.

[hoary hinge]

I say this because im coping over game refusing to give me datagloves and memento

:mald:

[quick sedge]

Oof. No memento or datagloves. My condolences. Sending rng prayers for you.

[hoary hinge]

gracias

[quick sedge]

Also, keep all your exotics on you. Yes it takes inventory space, but it increases the chance you'll drop exotics.

[hoary hinge]

instead of memento game gave me 3 tardigrades a sweet dreams and a chameleon, along with 6 big shows and like over 13 decoy shells

and none of them were god rolled

[quick sedge]

Lol, I don't get big show too often. Instead I just get cabaret, and more recently, pyromaniac

With prophet sprinkled in ofc

[hoary hinge]

meanwhile the game giving my friend 6+ st elmos when he just wants a pyro

[narrow kraken]

How tf does that work

[hoary hinge]

"oh hey you got a crate! so lucky of you, let's give you another trash exotic that you've already gotten at least 3 times!"

[quick sedge]

Lol, rng giveth, rng taketh away lol, and idk how it works, my friend is the math whiz not me but apparently it's a lesser known thing

It is true though

[narrow kraken]

Give em to other characters

Or buddies

[quick sedge]

Yeah, but they have to be around for the drop.

[narrow kraken]

Good to know then

[quick sedge]

Which isn't always the case

[narrow kraken]

I have a singular exotic which happens to be the worst one

[hoary hinge]

that's not how sharing works sadly, otherwise id gladly trade all my exotics for 1 memento or datagloves

[hoary hinge]

Ruthless? lol

[quick sedge]

Wait... don't tell me. Sacrum Imperium?

Ruthless is decent honestly

[narrow kraken]

Howd tf you know😂

[nimble spruce]

It doesn't, it's just rng/confirmation bias in action

[hoary hinge]

Everyone who buys ultimate edition will get it at level 1, I have it too

[narrow kraken]

I literally used it once i was like why

The recoil is 🤮

I literally almost threw up

[nimble spruce]

Yeah it's a terrible gun

[narrow kraken]

I would happily deconstruct it if i could

[hoary hinge]

you're not meant to try to spray or rapid fire it tbh, try going for bursts of 2 at a time, sit for like 1 or 0.5 secs to recover from recoil, then tap again

that's how I used it

basically think of it as a rifle not an AR

[nimble spruce]

Was very good once upon a time, but it got nerfed into oblivion

[hoary hinge]

at least its not chameleon. idk why that thing exists

its godawfully ugly too

[narrow kraken]

The spray and pray lives within me🫨

[hoary hinge]

you're gonna like the gunner specification. 50 extra rounds in all lmgs, and a sweet minigun

[nimble spruce]

Chameleon is not great, but it's much more useable in its niche than ruthless/merciless

[narrow kraken]

Imma make a ruthless build🤭

Dont ban me pls

[quick sedge]

Ruthless with true patriots is decent. Friend of mine runs it. What most people don't realise is you pull the trigger twice. Once for the initial fire. And once on release.

[hoary hinge]

yep which is why like I was saying this guy should not attempt to spray it by spamclicking

[quick sedge]

It requires practice. But after that practice, you can do some pretty nutty damage with it.

[hoary hinge]

your gun will go up by like 45 degrees

[hoary hinge]

What synergy does it have with patriot though?

[nimble spruce]

No need to ban, you've already committed to punishing yourself

[narrow kraken]

Its a minigun in plain sight

[quick sedge]

It's not a bad exotic, so long as you use it properly. And idk the details, but I think they're using it for the debuffs given you need those 7 stacks

Sacrum Imperium though I've heard a lot of people aren't keen on.

[hoary hinge]

any of yall know if the helmet that came with the striker and heartbreaker set is in apparel cache lootpool

id die happy if I got either of those but it's probably impossible now

[quick sedge]

Uh... I think it's in the season cache rotation but idk about apparel caches other than they change em every so often

[nimble spruce]

Doubt it, but you can check the apparel cache contents from the screen where you open them

[hoary hinge]

those aren't updated to reflect the current lootpool, they've been outdated for a while now. ubisoft moment

[nimble spruce]

Also check the store, if you're lucky you can maybe buy them with textiles

[quick sedge]

Unfortunately, caliburn is right there. And unlikely. The store doesn't do gear specific apparel sets.

I've checked every listing in that apparel store lol

[nimble spruce]

Apparel cache lootpool hasn't changed in several seasons now (I've been at 100/100 for ages so I know they haven't rotated in anything new)

[quick sedge]

If the list isn't updated tho it would still say you had everything in it. Doesn't mean that it's not updated. Just means the menu is wrong.

[narrow kraken]

So question if i get a homie whos like around the same place im in will he progress his story too

[nimble spruce]

I mean, I spend all my keys and only ever get textiles

[quick sedge]

Pretty sure, yeah. Mission progress works for everyone else in the session

[narrow kraken]

Ahhh i see imma find a homie🙂

[quick sedge]

Otherwise there'd be no point in multiplayer campaign 😅

[nimble spruce]

Yes unless you force start a mission that is locked for one of you (eg the strongholds)

[narrow kraken]

That makes sense well thank for all the help imma do this last push to start world tiers

[hoary hinge]

to put it in more layman terms if you do liberty island with a homie but you're not level 40 when you hit level 40 you have to do it again

[hoary hinge]

lmk if you need help i can carry, it isnt too hard

[narrow kraken]

Im on ps4 tho

[hoary hinge]

o right. sadge

[narrow kraken]

Sadge🥺

Turns ps4 into pc😎

[quick sedge]

Do you actually get anything from Shepherds rank btw? Aside from like, the commendation for rank 25?

[narrow kraken]

Probably a big hug

[nimble spruce]

Arm patch, backpack trophy, warm glow inside

[blazing timber]

mostly useless things

[narrow kraken]

Basically a big hug

[quick sedge]

Noted, I mean I'm chill helping people regardless, but just figured I'd check if there was some big incentive lol

[blazing timber]

already have all the shepherds rank i didn't notice anything worth the hassle

[quick sedge]

I ain't a rogue, not even in DZ. Much as I sometimes wish I was capable enough to be

[nimble spruce]

It maxes at rank 99 but you don't get anything after 25

[blazing timber]

on xbox better experience cause anyone you lose to skill issue

with pc player you can't say that

[quick sedge]

That said, Anna>Isac imo. But that could be just me being tired of hearing him point out literally everything.

[blazing timber]

especially with cheats people use

[blazing timber]

use Japanese issac best voices hostages:"yamete"

[quick sedge]

I forgot he had that. Ok. Now this could be fun.

I still stand by my point tho. Anna>Isac.

Imo at least

Just sounds better

[nimble spruce]

Based on like two lines of Anna dialogue

[quick sedge]

Fair point. But meh, we have the watch. Even if it was DZ only, it'd just be nice. Even if it were a non-canon setting or something

[plucky mesa]

It'd be nice if we could purchase new voices ingame for Isac

[dense arrow]

LF a good AR pvp build that isnt insane to gear up. any ideas? thought about trying heartbreaker

[narrow kraken]

Im back for another question

So for like normal talents you gotta build up the library for them too?

[tiny stump]

ive seen people have great success with pvp heartbreaker. except when people are wearing pulse resist builds

[tiny stump]

yeah

[narrow kraken]

Does it carry over from 30 to 40

[dense arrow]

ty jd just figured i wouldnt keep grinding it out if it wasnt worth

trying to unlock the specialization still

[tiny stump]

good question. i do not remember. i would hope so but if its like the other stuff then no

[sudden matrix]

30 recal is separate from 40 recal library.

[narrow kraken]

Im asking about talents not attributes

[tiny stump]

thats part of the recal library

[narrow kraken]

Oh i thought it only applied to attributes

[tiny stump]

i guess youre s.o.l. gonna have to find those talents again

[spice jetty]

What’s your shd currently?

[narrow kraken]

Im level 23

[hoary hinge]

He's not finished wony yet.

[hoary hinge]

Dude, Anna's voice is kinda hot I'm ngl. Wish we could use it since we have keeners watch anyway.

[narrow kraken]

I keep losing the fucking bounty stupid ass fire bottles

[hoary hinge]

use flame resist protocols on your gear

if you shoot the outcasts just as they're about to throw it they'll drop it on themselves

then you can point and laugh

[tiny stump]

is there a burn resist mod? i never see those

[narrow kraken]

Yea ik but i was focused on another ad🤦🏽‍♂️

[hoary hinge]

iirc yes, as well as flash, pulse, and shock if I remember correctly

[tiny stump]

yeah i think ur right

[narrow kraken]

How yk im fighting outcast 🤔

[hoary hinge]

for outcasts I always prioritise throwers, suicide bombers, and the shotgunners, you can easily juke the rest cos they're slow or their pathfinding is stupid

[hoary hinge]

only outcasts and cleaners use molotovs and you're definitely not fighting cleaners

[narrow kraken]

Bro got secret cameras in my den

[tiny stump]

hes in the house

[hoary hinge]

if you hate the outcasts now you're gonna really enjoy fighting the cleaners, literally every single cleaner can have a flamethrower unlike the outcasts who have a specific flamethrower unit

[hoary hinge]

im in ur walls.

[narrow kraken]

Nah bros sitting behind the tv im just blind

[narrow kraken]

Fuck. That.

[hoary hinge]

oh also if outcast tanks are annoying for you, throw out a turret or drone and make them aggro the tank, the tank will spend 5 minutes whacking at the turret because they're programmed to focus targets and ignore everything else

[narrow kraken]

Fortunately I haven’t encountered those little fuckers but thanks for the heads up

How do you get the hologram thing

[hoary hinge]

If those are bad you'll really enjoy the rogue agents who ally with the cleaners

[narrow kraken]

I think my closet is gonna enjoy my kicks😤

[hoary hinge]

boy oh boy. you have to kill one of the most annoying bosses in the whole game for it but it's quite worth it. basically it's a rogue agent named theo parnell, he makes decoys of himself and his riker allies so the entire boss fight is spent trying to figure out which "him" you're supposed to shoot. the boss fight took me almost an hour just because of his stupid turrets and decoys

basically don't solo this one or you'll smash your keyboard

[narrow kraken]

I think my closet will break before my controller

[hoary hinge]

demolitionist specialisations will be good for this fight because if he goes into cover you can lob a grenade in after him

he only stops making decoys when he's low hp, at which point if you have a scorpio or good shotgun just pump him full of lead and pray he dies before the rikers kill you

oh and did I mention drones and turrets are also fooled by the decoys? fun

[narrow kraken]

All that matters is that im not playing d2🤮

[narrow kraken]

I use pluse and seeker tbh

I should use drone tho

[hoary hinge]

try running various stuff depending on build eg. heal drone and shield, heal seeker and striker, heal hives etc

not every skill has to be a damage or offensive utility skill

you'll really appreciate armor heal in the long run

[narrow kraken]

I didnt know hive works solo that’s noice

[sudden matrix]

Decoy is the only true tank in the game...

[hoary hinge]

it doesn't, bring a friend

[narrow kraken]

😐

Smh

[hoary hinge]

I usually play with a squad unless I'm summit grinding

[sudden matrix]

What do you mean it doesn't? All hives work solo.

[hoary hinge]

wait what? I've always been using them on friends lol. The more you learn.

yo this makes life much easier for me

so you can technically become a uber tank with heal hive and heal drone with a regen/tank build? seems fun

[tiny stump]

yea but ya gotta pick it up again to make a move, which makes you prone to staying in one place too long

the heal hive, that is

[hoary hinge]

I mean I spam deploy and move my turret all the time so shouldn't be an issue, I'm quite used to it

[tiny stump]

yeah you're good then

[elder seal]

bought shock ammo for nemesis and put 110 bullets in him and he never got shocked then proceeded to run at me and one hit me, gotta love it

[wispy merlin]

they're immune to shock so yeah

[blazing timber]

incendiary ammo

[hoary hinge]

scorpio

:kek:

[blazing timber]

doesn't exists in descent

[hoary hinge]

thus the kek

twas a troll

my humor is very broken I sincerely apologise

Is it ever advisable to use the bulwark shield? The full body one.

[sudden matrix]

Bulwark? In pistol builds it's pretty good. I usually use it on my regulus HF build.

[hoary hinge]

What's good to use for sidearm builds? Is prophet a good choice or should I go for DPS?

[sudden matrix]

Regulus is the tastiest cheesy garlic bread ever, otherwise it's D50.

[hoary hinge]

Mm. stuff I don't have lol

I generally liked using revolvers but mostly because I'm used to fallout new vegas revolvers being almighty big irons that can stop anyone in their tracks

[sudden matrix]

Regulus is a revolver tho.

It does stop almost everyone in their tracks too.

[hoary hinge]

sweet, but it's a named/exotic right?

:gachasalt:

[blazing timber]

marauder incoming

[sudden matrix]

Exotic, takes three weekly resets of the iron horse raid to get.

[hoary hinge]

LMG/minigun time

[hoary hinge]

ouch.

[sudden matrix]

Worth it tho.

[hoary hinge]

I'm trying to get nemesis but it's soul draining

sick of waiting for resets lol

[blazing timber]

go to #lfg-pc and find someone who has it so they can drop it for you

[sudden matrix]

Yeah I've given a couple nem away.

[hoary hinge]

Isn't it impossible to drop something that wasn't dropped in the same session as the other player? Otherwise I'd gladly be trading my 3 tardigrades, my chameleon, and my sweet dreams for a single memento.

[blazing timber]

no

[rugged stratus]

only if someone looted it in the darkzone and hasnt extracted yet iirc. can kill them for it. you wouldnt be able to drop anything as a trade tho unless you met the same criteria

[nimble spruce]

Correct but someone who has crafted it already can get one as a random drop while playing on your session and drop it for you, although getting it that way will prevent you from farming the pieces and blueprint yourself unless you move it to an alt character's inventory.

GWH is invaded this week though which is by far the most soul draining rng aspect of the project

[viscid root]

What? I really like GWH. :-P

[nimble spruce]

Waiting for gwh to be invaded is the main sticking point with the nemesis project, the strongholds rotate so you can get the parts within 4 weeks or so but waiting for the blueprint can take like 7 weeks or more

[viscid root]

Oh, I see. I obviously skimmed through the above too fast.

[sudden matrix]

Do you know if you can run tidal get the tally then run the weekly invaded stronghold again to get that piece allowing you to then get the BP from puck?

[viscid root]

I belive you can. I think that's the way I did it, actually. (Though that was years ago.)

[sudden matrix]

Yeah it's just been so long I can't remember.

[nimble spruce]

I think so but not in a position to confirm. Obviously you can't just rerun zoo when it's invaded to get all the other stronghold pieces

[sudden matrix]

Yeah game isn't cool enough to allow that.

[fallow inlet]

Hey Souless, Gogamer, Local, Kettle

[nimble spruce]

hey Saph

[sudden matrix]

Happy Friday.

[viscid root]

Dude's living in the past. It's already 2:30 a.m. on Saturday. :-)

[nimble spruce]

what are you, a Kiwi?

8 hours ahead of UK, anyway

[viscid root]

I'm in Tokyo, yeah. 9 hours ahead, except when you guys screw with your clocks during the summer.

[nimble spruce]

yeah, it's GMT +1 here at the moment, 'british summer time'

they claim the clock changes help farmers, but I've never understood why farmers need to work to specific hours in the first place

[blazing timber]

hi saph

[blazing timber]

should ask Elizabeth

[blazing timber]

nice place

[nimble spruce]

she died last year (unless it's a different Elizabeth than I'm assuming)

[blazing timber]

really she died ok didn't know that

i thought she was still alive cause i don't know why but queens of England ran out of names

[nimble spruce]

well we're on King Charles the third now, so can't say the kings are much different

not as bad as popes at least, most of them are up in the double digits

[blazing timber]

yeah that too

[blazing timber]

yeah

[nova granite]

What TF were they doing?

[nimble spruce]

having a few beers, probably enjoying the sunset, peacefully letting go of life

when all your friends are dead, and your future is hard work and suffering with a fairly high chance of abrupt death in a hostile attack, you can understand the choice to let go

[viscid root]

Thanks! Yeah, I like living here. Plus, I get to live in the future! :-)

[narrow kraken]

Bruh i just got a designated hitter drop from killing a gold bar ad💀

The roll is trash tho ngl

Ill keep it tho

[icy crystal]

If we were given a 7th gear spot, what combination of ninjabike backpack would be the strongest?

[sudden matrix]

Are they always there? This is right outside that one CP. I don't think I ever noticed them.

[nova granite]

I notced them twice. Lol

[tiny stump]

partners. she cant handle the recoil on that big ass gun shes barely holding on to but she got my back

[nova granite]

'got my back' won't do that much shit 2 u

[tiny stump]

she will fire sporatically in the general direction of the enemy every 10 seonds or so

[rugged stratus]

Yes. Thenamesred just went through nemesis project recently. You can get tidal piece and rerun the other missions after to get other parts

[sudden matrix]

Sick, have a bunch of newer clan mates that need to start that project so this will be big.

[spice jetty]

Ahhh okay. Well I’m always down to help you grind if you ever need some help, gamertag is EliteSavage45

[rugged stratus]

Itll also drop possibly if they have the gwh bp. He proved that as well

[narrow kraken]

Im on ps

[rugged stratus]

Forgot to tag previous, So get their bp this week and target farm 🤞

[spice jetty]

Wait ps and Xbox can’t cross play?

[rugged stratus]

No

[spice jetty]

Lame :/

[narrow kraken]

Ikr

But its for the greater good (Ubisoft too lazy)

[spice jetty]

Haha true. We don’t need pc players in console lobbies for sure 😂

[narrow kraken]

That too💀

[frail wadi]

what should I do in order to get some better weapons? (i am only SHD 30 and the weapons I am getting from loots are really not that great) maybe craft it?

[viscid root]

Higher difficulty levels drop better items. (But remember, open world loot boxes are always low-level.)

[frail wadi]

i'm doing challenging, heroic is impossible to solo rn

[rugged stratus]

Rock countdown. Good quality loot and a lot of it

Credits to KiRRA for making this 💯

[next lantern]

Spam countdown and hope they will carry you

[viscid root]

Challenging should give you reasonably decent stuff from time to time. But join groups doing Heroic (via backup requests or random mission matchmaking) and often they'll carry you.

[frail wadi]

okay i will try these stuff out, thanks 😄

[summer folio]

dumb question but how do i upgrade this?

where do i get the points from?

[golden geode]

just by playing the game

[nimble spruce]

while it's activated, you gain points by gaining levels and doing time-limited stuff like daily/weekly projects, daily bounties, weekly invasion, etc

[dense arrow]

whats best way to farm the faction optimization materials?

[nimble spruce]

craft them, or I guess bounties

[earnest scroll]

how long would it take roughly to farm 100 dz credits

[tiny stump]

depends. would take me like at least 45 min, maybe an hour. but im only play in the dz to test builds usually

[narrow kraken]

how long does the fast hand talen last?

i managed to stack it 4 times and it went away after 3 seconds

maybe less

[subtle mist]

fastest exp grind? iirc it was 5 directive control point?

[rugged stratus]

CPs, executions, propaganda

area right around tidal is littered with that quick stuff

[nova granite]

Public executions on heroic with 5 directives give highest Xp.
518,222 xp in 1 minute.

I've bought all the bought-able emotes & skins with textiles. Now what can be done with this 5K textiles?

[main briar]

iirc clearing the weekly invasion grants a hefty number of spec points

[main briar]

can't do anything with textiles aside from the cosmetics they sell them for, so in your case nothing lol

[nova granite]

Then why give textiles? Common sense would've given at least some e credits.

This game surprises me every day.

[main briar]

it's an older thing, back in the day iirc you didn't get anything from duplicates at all, so they eventually added textiles to try to stop the complaints

[nova granite]

Maybe in future seasons they would add skins & emotes that can be bought by textiles.

[main briar]

they used to rotate the apparel cache pool which also meant the items that could be purchased with textiles would also change, but they haven't rotated the loot pool in years

like, the wony version of the black tusk uniform was something i picked up with textiles when it was available, but it's only been purchasable for premium credits for a looong time now

a lot of the more niche mechanics ingame stopped being supported once the original dev team moved on after season ... 4, i think it was?

[nova granite]

Why TF original dev team moved on?

[main briar]

original plan was for support to be discontinued after season 4 or whichever one was the season that had faye lau as the prime target

ubi higherups eventually changed their minds but by then massive had already moved on to other projects, so they handed the game over to a newly-formed junior dev team somewhere else (i think split between bucharest and shanghai? not sure)

[nova granite]

Just a weird ass q, whats full form of iirc & ngl?

[main briar]

if i recall correctly, not gonna lie

what i mentioned above is also the reason why faye lau winds up dead in-game while in the season 4 trailer you see her being brought back to the white house alive, she was originally going to be captured and that was going to be a sequel hook into a future division title with s4 being the game's last update

[nova granite]

Division 1,2 & HL are operated from Malmo, South Sweden. Right?

[main briar]

massive is based out of malmo, but i don't think they're the ones working on heartland

i believe red storm (US) is responsible for HL

[nova granite]

Where is ME located?

[main briar]

ME? massive entertainment? malmo, sweden, as mentioned earlier

[nova granite]

U just said massive is based out of malmo

It is based inside Malmo

[main briar]

...yes, the meanings are synonymous

"based out of" = operating from

[nova granite]

Hmmm

[kindred verge]

pls anyone tell me what am i doing wrong with the "One Shot Boss" build
in shooting area im doing max of 30m dmg and i saw videos people doing over 100m

every attribute is maxed

[main briar]

the target in the shooting range has a health cap on it

[nova granite]

send a screenshot of your build.

[kindred verge]

using the Achilles too

[kindred verge]

i know im missing the overcharge thing cuz im solo in shooting ground.... but is it that crucial to reach 100m?

[tiny stump]

the unstoppable robot battery man

[nova granite]

Division 2 should have a official meme server

[kindred verge]

i sent you DM sir

[nova granite]

Okk

[main briar]

just in case you missed it when i said it earlier, targets in the firing range have a health cap (they just replenish instantly when you set them to invulnerable)

[kindred verge]

ok thanks sir

[inner tendon]

@nova granite We have a very strict "no naming and shaming" policy, please don't do it again.
If you wish to report a player, do so via the official channels.

[nova granite]

Reporting didn't help. Its ok.
Many players will be unfairly defeated by him in dz & I can't even tell it.

[inner tendon]

It doesn't matter if they're cheating or not, it is still not allowed in here.

Now let's move on.

[nova granite]

Already did. Lmao.

[sudden matrix]

This is the nego build. Typically used in boss 1 and 2 in iron horse. It does such high damage because the armor stacks from rav but you've gotta stack them on armor plates like on a chunga or dog in open work to test them out. You can't test it in the shooting range as they don't have armor plates just normal armor.

[narrow matrix]

Is umbra bugged? It seems to screw with the damage of high rpm weapons mainly vector and mp7

[blazing timber]

does raid scales with players or is it already scaled to 8 players even in solo?

[sudden matrix]

8 player regardless of player count.

If you wanna practice boss one nego it's not impossible to solo railyard.

[viscid root]

So how would I find True Sons in a DZ?

[blazing timber]

ahh i see thanks

[tiny stump]

does anyone know what kind of damage the scorpio 7 shells debuff is? its not specified in the description. im just wondering bc i got a support build that gives the team (as long as im shooting what they're shooting) 25% TWD, 15% amp dmg, and 20% from scorpio debuff

[blazing timber]

it's an opportunistic kind of buff but doesn't stack with it

[blazing timber]

bruh isn't that red fi Perfect opportunistic scorpio i told ya about

[tiny stump]

only one can work at a time?

[blazing timber]

no it works exactly like opportunistic but doesn't stack with it both are independent

so 1.20*1.15

[tiny stump]

oh ok thats fine

[rugged stratus]

forget what i posted 😅 , just reread. amp afaik

[tiny stump]

yeah you know i had to put it together. i farmed 3 new pieces of FI with chc for it. cuz all my other red FI pieces were chd. now i have both chc and chd for each piece

[blazing timber]

nice

[tiny stump]

i cant decide if i wanna use scalpel or this nice svd with future perfect. the svd is fast firing which is better, but the scalpel skill tiers last 19s instead of 15s and takes a lot less shots to get a kill

[narrow matrix]

Scalpel is hard to use personally I’d go with the svd

If you’re going for a non headshot build

[tiny stump]

yeah itll probly be a mix so svd will probably be more practical

[narrow matrix]

With svd you can mark more enemies too

[tiny stump]

oh yeah good point

[narrow matrix]

Is thunder strike a good talent? I’ve never seen it used

Seems to only be good for boss burns

[tiny stump]

theres no good way to proc shock unless your team mate is using st elmos

[narrow matrix]

It’s a strange talent

I wonder why they built around it

[tiny stump]

yeah and the other ones at least procs that status after 3 kills

thunderstike doesnt do that

[narrow matrix]

I wish they’d done tip of the spear more justice with the rework giving some sort of buff to specialization grenades / allowing you to use any grenade

Also allowing you to change to skill tiers and maintain the same damage you would on the spec weapon as on a red build

Doesn’t seem completely overkill

[tiny stump]

yeah they shouldnt have even touched that set

[narrow matrix]

Yea I’m disappointed

I optimized my set (I have 2 builds) and then 1 day later they posted the change lol

[tiny stump]

ohh mann

[narrow matrix]

I think if they give a buff to spec grenades to either increase specialization ammo generated by x2 or something (double the double ammo 😂) it would be great if you get a kill using the grenade or it’s status effect (only from the grenade)

• each enemy that dies with that status effect returns a portion of the grenade like with the specialization ammo bar

[tiny stump]

yeah they should first work on making grenades strong enough to get a kill with a direct hit, at least on heroic solo scaling

[narrow matrix]

They’re doing grenade dmg talents + exotics why not buff grenades into a set that makes use of the specs that give you the grenades

[tiny stump]

yea that woulda been nice

[narrow matrix]

I find foam grenades, flash grenades to be the most useful outside of concussion… the other ones are iffy

Foam needs a bigger radius … only really works on chungas

[tiny stump]

yeah i pretty much leave everything on concussion grenades, they have the highest dmg

[narrow matrix]

When I’m using sledgehammer I’ll switch to the shit grenades 😂

Yo you like the 1886 / diamondback right

[tiny stump]

yeah never use diamondback rly tho

[narrow matrix]

Got a fun build for you … I’ve been using it for the past 3 days on 4 man heroic

Buffed fire rate, crit damage so you can pretty much 1 mag an enemy .. the impact causes them to get stunned

• reload speed

[tiny stump]

seriously lol umbra with diamondback. i never would have thought to do that

[narrow matrix]

I’m gonna make one for 1886 too

Swap 3 crit dmg mods for crit chance

Lol I came up against rogue agents.. 2-3 shots I wiped out their armor

[tiny stump]

not bad

[narrow matrix]

This why I want them to allow us to reroll the attribute

It would do it wonders

[tiny stump]

oh yea

[narrow matrix]

Try it lmk if u like it

[tiny stump]

yeah for sure ill give that a run

[kindred verge]

I see thanks sir

[narrow matrix]

I missed the first 2 shots on purpose to manually reload so I could lock onto him

Biggest downside is it marks skills … atomic sized seeker mine

[tiny stump]

nice fire rate. but yeah getting stuck on skills is no good

[narrow matrix]

This takes down a chunga in 5 bullets 😂 I love it so much lol

[tiny stump]

i could try it with this and just put boomerang on it and get the crits nice

[narrow matrix]

Yea I’m going to do that as well the only thing I suggest is don’t run coyotes… go for 59-60 base crit chance

You want all your bullets to crit so don’t run 50-55%

[tiny stump]

yeah true true

[narrow matrix]

Ik some people suggest negotiators but nego ina group is so hard to use with this gun

[tiny stump]

yeah i dont usually run negotiators in groups

[narrow matrix]

Is the diamondback talent in descent found on the diamondback or it’s a talent you can put on any gun?

Agonizing bite

[tiny stump]

i think its in there. or it was last time i played it, which was like the week after it came out

[narrow matrix]

The diamondback or the talent itself?

I had stopped playing right when it came out… couldn’t handle Sokolova killing Stovepipe 😭

😂

[tiny stump]

the talent lol

[viscid root]

How does one find True Sons in Dark Zones? All I can seem to find are Outcasts (and of course Black Tusk in the Invaded DZ).

[nimble spruce]

All exotic talents in descent apply to all your weapons

[narrow matrix]

The dz you select Tells you what available factions are in that dz

One could be hyenas and true sons, outcasts and true sons, outcasts and hyenas etc

Otherwise the landmark tells you what faction

[viscid root]

I'm not seeing that info in the map when I select the DZ.

[narrow matrix]

Oh that’s nice

I might be wrong, as far as I recall it shows the factions

Lemme see the full view

[narrow matrix]

Observe a landmark … u should be able to see the faction

Otherwise leave the dz and and look at the dz zone itself not any particular entrance (from outside the dz)

[viscid root]

Ah, but it does give it for individual landmarks, so that's ok then. Hadn't thought to look there. Thanks!

[digital chasm]

Best way to farm Titanium?

[civic lily]

Black tusk

[rugged stratus]

solar farm control point, lots of mats and refreshes daily

[digital chasm]

Always coming through

[viscid root]

"Saggy Nuts"? Sheesh, who let that get into the game?

[civic lily]

Catfish masters too?

[frail wadi]

If I extract 1 maxed out attribute, can I use it on an infinite number of items?

[viscid root]

Yes. Once you extract it, you have it in your library to use forever.

[frail wadi]

Niceeeee

[nova granite]

Is this the targeted loot for gear system mods?

If not some1 show 1.

[rugged stratus]

No that's backpack with murakami on top.
Itll be backpack with gear

[worldly fjord]

thats backpacks

[rugged stratus]

Summit or cd is best bet for mods and you can pick the targets there. Summit you can also run on legendary if you want

[plucky mesa]

Looking at the map it looks like he's already been doing that

[nova granite]

Compared 2 CD very less people want 2 do summit on leg.

I also find it boring so CD.

[rugged stratus]

Yeah more drops in cd

Legendary just means the minimum rolls are higher. Any diff can give max mods 👍

[nova granite]

In shorter time than summit.

[rugged stratus]

Plus exo caches. CD a win win

[winter kindle]

Returning player here, havent played since before season 9. Are all the exotics currently available in targeted loot?

[plucky mesa]

Yes, except the raid exotics

[winter kindle]

So I dont need to unlock them on the season track or anything?

[nimble spruce]

Usually you do but this time around they can drop elsewhere before you unlock them

[winter kindle]

Oh groovy, thanks fellas

[tame basin]

Summit is more fun than CD.

[thorn hedge]

I'd disagree

Monotonous slow paced and lonely

[tame basin]

It has legendary

[thorn hedge]

Legendary isn't really for farming

Slower than heroic with minimal benefits

[rugged stratus]

bighorn farming 😅

[thorn hedge]

Lmao

[tame basin]

I haven't farmed for anything in the last 2 years, I have everything I need.

[thorn hedge]

Okay? Congrats?

[blazing timber]

let me check

do you have double crit opportunistic with red core and yellow opportunistic

[rugged stratus]

I'd have to agree CD is a bit better. Good gear, easy exo, very random teams, variations in mission objectives and countermeasures

[tame basin]

i have never used opportunistic

[blazing timber]

you pass

[fresh inlet]

Guys ive seen both sides but im confused , i have a really great healer build future Intitative ofc with empathetic resolve i was told to use it over future chest but now people are saying tht its not with it that i might aswell run manu backpack with soemthing else im so confused on which is better

[rugged stratus]

probably future chest. how they setup in the spreadsheet anyways https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/022975b4-183e-e730-c18b-06ff00cb26ea/6160294f8f6e72cf99375efb0813747a

looks like red future variants also use the future chest

[blazing timber]

emphatic resolve is not that bad tbh

[fresh inlet]

but the future chest gets actually less then empathetic resolve

25% to 30% \

n people told me it was hot garbage in raids n etc im just talking about most healing output on top of tht i also heard F.I chest only works when your at full HP

so if u get dmg the 25% goes away

empathic meanwhile will stay there so im like conflicted

[tame basin]

this is the build i use 99% of the time ( intimidate ) before it was the same build with m870, now mostly double barrel and backup boomstick.

[urban mist]

So it’s been a long time since I’ve touched Division 2. I’m having trouble finding a groove. Any tips on a returning player?

[blazing timber]

nice sleigher for the meta build

[rugged stratus]

why worry about it then🤔

if it works it works.

[fresh inlet]

not the point the point is it really worth it to run oppurtinstic in raids and group play verse empathetic resolve?

[tame basin]

I have killed openworld hunter with sleigher

[blazing timber]

nego nice

[plucky mesa]

Memento is a straight upgrade to that build. It gives more protection and much more uptime of intimidate

[thorn hedge]

also why double barrel

[blazing timber]

my agent

i knew you both were in cd at the same time

[thorn hedge]

why do we always run into each other

[rugged stratus]

word really gets around

[thorn hedge]

lmao

[boreal nexus]

🤣

[blazing timber]

@thorn hedge your friend

[thorn hedge]

huh

[tame basin]

Hunter kill with the sleigher

[blazing timber]

meow

[thorn hedge]

what

[blazing timber]

you still didn't get it 😂 😂 🤣

[tame basin]

more challenge to use

[blazing timber]

you don't use. pummel on it ?

[thorn hedge]

its a worse gun lol

[tame basin]

close & personal

[worldly fjord]

is there a cap on explosive resistance, similar to PFE?

[blazing timber]

that makes sense

[blazing timber]

80% iirc

[thorn hedge]

no proof but speculated to be 90

youve never been able to hit 100

currently you cant get over 80 (6 attributes, 2 pc RK, watch)

[worldly fjord]

how much does the new brand set give?

[thorn hedge]

20

thats why i made an explosive tank build

they added a bunch of gear that has concerns as to what the incursion will brinh

[worldly fjord]

yeah id love to know what builds will be useful

[thorn hedge]

just make all of them

thats what i did

[sudden matrix]

I really suspect tips will play a role and that's why they nerfed it.

[thorn hedge]

i doubt it

im not a dev so i could be wrong

[sudden matrix]

It's just logical to assume so. Not sure why you doubt it.

[thorn hedge]

not every nerf has a technical purpose for things like that

[blazing timber]

yeah

[blazing timber]

i am a dev

[sudden matrix]

Lol

[thorn hedge]

as much as me

well lets revisit this real quick

what is tips as of the pts

like what does it do

[sudden matrix]

It's a set that increases damage and provides spec ammo on a timer/kill reward.

[thorn hedge]

can you copy paste the exact description if you can rn

[sudden matrix]

Mobile right now.

[thorn hedge]

hold on

[wispy merlin]

find it in here https://ubi.li/TU19_PTS

[thorn hedge]

sorry text wall

[sudden matrix]

Also pts had backpack and chest talents swapped vs the patch notes fyi

[thorn hedge]

Previously: Dealing damage with a signature weapon increases total weapon damage by 20% for 60s. 
Automatically generate specialization ammo every 60s.```

what mechanics could be made based off of this

[sudden matrix]

I think they might have something that requires spec ammo as a mechanic.

It would be the last thing they could do as a mechanic in the game.

[thorn hedge]

but how

thats what we need to think of. how would it be done

[sudden matrix]

Are you worried about the code?

I don't get what you're asking?

[thorn hedge]

im saying mechanics wise

i can say "the military can build a nuclear spacecraft" but does that mean they know how to? lmao

read my discord status

[sudden matrix]

I read that status and it feels like some billionaire quote.

[thorn hedge]

lol

but its true and thats what im getting at right now

how would a spec mechanic be done

[sudden matrix]

Well I'm not here to sell a product, this idea has merit. How could it be implemented? There are tons of ways?

[thorn hedge]

can you explain one

because i cant think of any proper implementation of it

[blazing timber]

just nerf everything

[sudden matrix]

Put a think, need shooty.

[thorn hedge]

thats not a sentence

[sudden matrix]

Thing need shooty, they put it.

[thorn hedge]

so something that can only be shot down with specialization weapons?

you dont need TOTS for that

also ends up messy like some older games; run out of ammo and youre screwed

[sudden matrix]

But maybe tots did it too well hence the nerf.

[thorn hedge]

not sure what you mean

[sudden matrix]

Cool. Welp I'm gonna go make some food.

[thorn hedge]

..?

[wispy merlin]

my oven's on fire so i'm gonna go fix it

[blazing timber]

throw petrol in it

[thorn hedge]

watching my M1A hit for 33 in countdown is something different fr

[wispy merlin]

petrov*

[thorn hedge]

i dont think lmg damage gon fix the oven

havent used my m1a in forever

[woeful quail]

Any idea what this guys logo is in the team, It's looks like the orange SHD symbol by the looks of it but never seen a group member have one before?

[strange citrus]

What gear and brand sets are auto junk ? Have 2 mules

[inner tendon]

You should be donating any "junk" items to your expertise system before scrapping it, easy way to fill it in.
After that it depends mostly on the build, but Gearset stuff is easier to refarm (only 1 attribute to change) so that is probably it.

[strange citrus]

Level 14 expertise

True have a lot of god rolled gears

Every time I see a knew build , i tend to hoard even more gears

[inner tendon]

The rule I like to go by is "if it's not 80%+ perfect, junk it".
same as if it can't be made to be ideal stats (attribute and talent) in a single Recal.

e.g. a Famas with a bad Talent and no dtooc goes into the bin.

[strange citrus]

Thanks

[narrow kraken]

Developer

[wispy merlin]

they are playing hardcore

[narrow kraken]

Jk idk lol

[narrow kraken]

Wait, how could I play in Hardcore?

[wispy merlin]

you have to create a hardcore character

[woeful quail]

Oh thanks.

[frail wadi]

What happens if you fail the 15 min timer on Countdown, do you lose on anything?

[wispy merlin]

you get into extraction phase

[frail wadi]

Just tried to do heroic and we failed the timer and died during extraction phase

[narrow kraken]

Which is better accuracy or stability

[inner tendon]

Accuracy is the reticule bloom, Stability is "Vertical Kick".
So it depends on what you need.

[narrow kraken]

Bet makes sense thanks

For snipers does it matter which one you mod into more or is it just what you need

[inner tendon]

One point: the Weapon Handling stat gives you 1% in each of 4 stats (Accuracy, Stability, Reload, Swap speed), so it's worth speccing into if you have your crit or hsd sorted out.

[narrow kraken]

Well im not going for crit build

[inner tendon]

for MMR's (Snipers), Accuracy is going to be more important overall, since they don't really fire all that fast.
good call, MMR's are terrible with crit.

[narrow kraken]

Im going for headshot damage in the long run once I finish the story

[narrow kraken]

Yea I realized i dont think i got one to drop wit any crit attributes

[inner tendon]

Don't worry too much about stats quite yet, any gear you find before Lvl 40 (WONY expansion DLC) is going to be junk anyway.

the one exception is Exotics.

[narrow kraken]

I got some maxed out attributes im saving bc why not

For recal later on

[inner tendon]

What's your current level?

[narrow kraken]

27

[inner tendon]

Ah.
Lvl 31-40 has a separate Recal Library to the other one.

[narrow kraken]

Yea ik

Im just saving the gear since im not doing anything with it anyway

I kinda have a build going its scuffed asf tho💀

Youll laugh

[inner tendon]

We all started somewhere.
Luckily you'll outpace it soon anyway. Lvl 30 then the World Tiers then 31-40.

[narrow kraken]

Oh fuck I forgot about teirs🫨

Thats gonna be death

I already know

[inner tendon]

There's only 5, and they're quite fast to go through.
It's been a long time since I've done them, but even when WT4 was the cap, it wasn't all that tough.

[narrow kraken]

I just feel like im gonna punch my closet alot

I die alot as it is

And then i got 3 more characters 💀

[earnest scroll]

It's actually the opposite, since for snipers accuracy only affects how "fast" your scoping in is, stability reduces the sway which is usually much more helpful

At least for 1 shot sniper builds

[inner tendon]

Stability works on vertical kick, but either way it doesn't matter because you aren't going to be modding for that stat.

[narrow kraken]

Imma go for accuracy for them quick scopes 💀

[inner tendon]

Or at all if you use Mantis/Nemesis.

[narrow kraken]

Yea I thought since im in cover 95% of the time

[earnest scroll]

Yes on every other weapon, on high x scopes it reduces the sway

Just try to aim at something with 0 stability and then again with 100 stability

[inner tendon]

The only one of the WH stats you truly need are reload (depending on the build) and/or swap-speed, also depending on the build.

[narrow kraken]

How you get swap speed

[earnest scroll]

If you run determined it doesn't matter that much I suppose but for every build where you actually gotta hit headshots then the sway reduction is really helpful

[civic lily]

screw dttoc. Go with swap speed

[inner tendon]

Pretty much just that.

[earnest scroll]

Swap speed stat is broken and doesn't do anything

[inner tendon]

Say what.

[earnest scroll]

It doesn't work

[narrow kraken]

Dam rip swap speed

Ong i seen that

Whats dttoc

[inner tendon]

First I'm hearing about this.

[earnest scroll]

I havnt tried it myself tbh but I've read about it being broken several times

[civic lily]

If it isn't broken it's as noticeable as running an extra red core while you already have 5 red cores

[inner tendon]

I mean stuff breaks in div2 fairly regularly, but this is such a random thing to happen.
why this particular stat, why is it not more known?

[civic lily]

people don't care about swap speed

[inner tendon]

Are people aware that it's only 1% per 1% in WH, so it's not exactly a huge buff?

[earnest scroll]

Iirc it's always been broken... never worked the way it should

[inner tendon]

So it's not broken, some people just don't know how it works.

That tracks. Some people still don't know there's a crit cap and have been playing for half a decade.

Div2 doesn't do great at explaining certain things.

[earnest scroll]

Well I'd assume swap speed shortens the time that I cannot shoot when switching weapons

And iirc exactly that doesn't change with swap speed change

[inner tendon]

That other AI better stay off my turf.

Jokes aside, bots like that aren't always the most accurate, and most questions about div2 can already be answered by someone on here or the 📌 spreadsheet over in #td2-build-advice
My PM"s are always open if someone wants something answered but prefers to not speak in public.

[rugged stratus]

With a determined build swap speed wouldn't matter anyways cause you break your chain on swap. Also 4pc hotshot is preserved so shouldnt have to reload unless really bad at connecting shots

[narrow matrix]

Accuracy helps you aim tighter when moving too

[narrow kraken]

I dont think youre gonna run and gun with a mmr 💀but sounds fun

[narrow matrix]

Swap speed to my knowledge works, you just need a certain percentage of it for it to be noticeable… ie 16% - 24%

If you wanna test it for yourself run the braced talent

[narrow matrix]

Just walking causes the bloom to expand fully and makes it difficult to land a shot

[civic lily]

You would be surprised with determined and some bonus armor talent

[narrow kraken]

@earnest scroll

[earnest scroll]

yea you calibrated the dmg to armor

the one thats highlighted

[narrow kraken]

i meant the talent

i cant change that

[earnest scroll]

yes because you already changed the 3rd attribute

you can only recalibrate one stat per gear piece

[narrow kraken]

I didnt know

and now i am stuck with a bad talent

[earnest scroll]

(also youd want damage to target out of cover instead of dmg to armor)

what is the talent

[narrow kraken]

eyeless

[earnest scroll]

yea thats pretty useless but you'll find other famas dont worry too much about it

[viscid root]

I tend to go with DtA instead of DTOC on weapons these days, because I'm often wearing Fox's. (And where I really need the extra damage is when I'm seeing a lot of elite enemies.) Is that sub-optimal and the DTOC would serve me better anyway?

[viscid root]

I do! I use Unwavering quite a lot, so better swap speed is a help. I didn't realise it doesn't do anything, though. It's hard to tell the difference between a 14% improvement and nothing when it comes to swap speed, unless you record it and run it frame by frame.

[viscid root]

Oh, yeah, I see what went on there. Yeah, you should just deconstruct the FAMAS and switch to another AR for the moment. You'll get another good one soon.
Once you feel you're surviving and playing ok, start doing matchmaking for Heroic missions. Good loot on those, and most of the time the other players will carry you. (Generally there's always a player who wants a huge damage stat at the end who will speed-run and try to steal all the damage he can.)

[plucky mesa]

Yea dttoc is better 😐

[dense basalt]

Dttoc always better

[dense basalt]

And you can craft famas

[viscid root]

Gonna take a lot of crafting to craft a FAMAS with perfect stats. Or even to get close enough that it would be worth optimising to perfect.

[dense basalt]

I got one second try not that difficult

[viscid root]

So to be precise, 18% DTOC (0% against enemies in cover) is better than 8% DTOC + 6% DtA (=14.4% against enemies out of cover, and 6% against enemies in cover)?
I guess out of cover is pretty commmon, and that would give me a bit of an edge against the damn dogs. Oh, and chungas of course, where DtA doesn't help as far as I'm aware.

[plucky mesa]

Yea it's just more damage on average

[viscid root]

Yeah, ok, I'm convinced. Thanks.

[wispy merlin]

in fact it's better to have dttooc on weapon and dta via contractor's rather than the other way around, and in general dttooc is the de facto pick for 3rd attribute on weapon. there's only one situation where you'd have dta as 3rd attribute and that's for headhunter mmr builds.

[viscid root]

So in general, when deciding which loot drops to keep, I should be keeping DtA on MMRs and DTOC on everything else? Except perhaps for CHC on certain non-SMG items where I'm fitting them into a high-crit build that has dependencies on crit hits?

[wispy merlin]

yeah, for MMRs you can save ones that have DTA and DTTOOC. i assume you mean LMGs but there are a few top tier stats you can run for those like RoF, CHC and DTA yeah

[viscid root]

No, non-SMGs. In high-crit builds the SMG is always a base 15-20% CHC ahead of the weapon in my other slot due to the inherent CHC attribute, so I usually use a weapon with a CHC third attribute in the other slot.

[wispy merlin]

it's still better to have dttooc, depends on your chd but missing 9.5% chc to go down from 60% to 50% chc is still less than dttooc on weapon loss

i'm assuming you have at least 120% chd on your non-SMG, but going down from 60% chc to 50.5% chc (no 9.5% chc) is a 7% decrease while going from 1.18 to 1.08 dttooc is 8.5% decrease (and even greater if you don't use fox)

[viscid root]

In straight damage, yeah, but what about procing things like Obliterate? Usually you're still better off taking the 10% hit on that? (Well, actually 17% less if you go from 60% to 50%.)

[wispy merlin]

then we can assume you proc obliterate 17% slower, but with obliterate you're not using just one mag and you can maintain it between mags

so it's not that big of a loss

[viscid root]

Ah, ok.

[wispy merlin]

plus if you play in a group with a coyote user, you're going to make up that chc loss

[viscid root]

So there's not much at all, really, where you'd ever want to avoid the crit hit rather than just taking DTOC.

[wispy merlin]

yeah dttooc is go-to for 3rd attribute

[viscid root]

Has it always been this way? It seems like it would have been, but nobody was talking about this in the forums a couple of years ago.

[wispy merlin]

it has been yeah, it could also be a case of it being an axiom at this point that people assume everyone knows it by now

[narrow kraken]

If your over watch lvl 1000 every level up you get optimization materials including shd tech which seems to be the hardest to get

is this true? that you get materials after 1k lvls ups

[wispy merlin]

yes

[thorn hedge]

That's kind of a stretch of words

[thorn hedge]

Every level up you get one scavenge point instead of every five

That's it lol

It's a huge stretch to say you get optimization mats

[narrow kraken]

what is scavenge point for

[viscid root]

You get your choice of cash, crafting materials and optimisation materials, yeah. That actually starts when you get the watch, every fifth level, but becomes every level once you've levelled up the other four groups. So at SHD 100 you've been given 200 points to spend on Scavenging rewards, and you get a point per level after that. If you have the watch you can see it in the Scavenging section. Just click on it and you'll see the list of rewards whence you can choose, and your current inventory levels.

[viscid root]

I wouldn't say a huge stretch, just not really accurate. You can get some opt mats from that if you want. SHD Calibration and Field Recon, at least.

[narrow kraken]

what does replacing that core with a skill tier do?

[rugged stratus]

ill just mention its also worth having all 4 agents made and through wony, that way you can harvest 4 times the gains as you build watch level.. 200scav on 1 shd1000 agent would be 800scav available if all were made and through wony. plus 4x shd projects

[rugged stratus]

ill hazard a guess that it gives it a skill tier

[narrow kraken]

what do u mean?

[rugged stratus]

all skills rely on skill tier for regular increases before adding in attributes

take a look at any skill and it shows each tier.

[narrow kraken]

i still dont understand what u mean 🤔

if i replace the armour with a skill tier what happens?

[rugged stratus]

the more hellow skilltier cores the higher the effectiveness and/or ammo it might have available

[narrow kraken]

is it a upgrade or a better version of the core i replaced it with

but it doesnt show by how much the numbers are the same

[rugged stratus]

depends on the purpose tbh. shields for example use skill and armor cores to figure the shield skill tier

if youre doing a dps (gun damage build) you focus red, skill damage/healing type builds you focus yellow

[rugged stratus]

check the pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice the HUB (Builds) tab has a lot of build and they are categorized in red/blue/yellow/hybrid. seeing how they are built will probably make more sense than someone trying to explain it

[viscid root]

No need to have all four up. At any time you can delete an agent and start a new one boosted to level 30 and starting WONY. So the usual strategy is to reserve a slot for that, and when you finish WONY you'll have a fresh watch with SHD level - 800 Scavanging available if you're at SHD 1000 or above, or SHD level / 5 Scavanging available if you're under level 1000. I have just three agents I keep (two lv.40 and one lv.30), and the fourth slot I use to re-run WONY every couple of weeks. (I have two level 40 agents due to having only 16 loadout slots available.)

[viscid root]

It's just like using a different piece of gear that comes with a skill tier built in.

[narrow kraken]

does it make my gear better

[viscid root]

It's a change; whether it's an upgrade or downgrade depends on your loadout. For example, I have two Fox's Prayer kneepad items. One has the original red +15% weapon damage core attribute, on the other that's been replaced by a skill level core attribute. So in a build where I'm using the former, I can trade a +15% weapon damage buff for a +1 skill level buff, which can help in some builds where the skill level adds more than the weapon damage does. (Maybe because I'm using a drone that dies too quickly at skill level 0 or 1, but is ok at skill level 1 or 2.)

[rugged stratus]

its worth for a new agent that doesnt really want to spend the time remaking agents for a couple hundred points. better to have 4x available as climbing and when level makes it worth, then delete the last and rerun as needed. also 450 extra storage. definitely worth for an agent that really has no resources available

[viscid root]

I don't know about that; I seem to remember a lot of pushback in the forums against my conviction that Fox's Prayer should be in about 90% of red builds. Some people thought that DTOC just wasn't going to get proc'd enough to make it worthwhile

[thorn hedge]

æ

[thorn hedge]

It shouldn't be tho?

[viscid root]

No? What do you use instead? Consistently in all your red builds?

[thorn hedge]

Throw fp on striker and it's a meme

[narrow kraken]

🤯

[thorn hedge]

Nothing? Lmao

[narrow kraken]

thats a long way of saying it, its bad or good

[thorn hedge]

Well maybe concussion grenades I guess

[viscid root]

No kneepads? You can't do that in this game.

[thorn hedge]

Nothing consistent across all red builds I have lmao

[viscid root]

Well, yeah. Whether a particular attribute helps or hinders a build depends on what the build is trying to achieve. Trade weapon damage for skill damage: good or bad? Depends on if your largest source of damage is weapons or skills.

[thorn hedge]

Fp doesn't work in every red build

Especially gearset builds

[viscid root]

So, you don't think most of your builds would benefit from trading one attribute for +8% DTOC?

[narrow kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553520755103760385/1152793033234993172/20230917042738_1.jpg

[thorn hedge]

Because it's overlord not Ceska, yes

[thorn hedge]

10% rifle damage doesn't help an AR but 10% CHC does

[viscid root]

Yeah, maybe more like 50% for gearset builds. At the time we were talking about non-gearset red builds.

[narrow kraken]

it wasnt skill dmg but skill tier@viscid root

[thorn hedge]

Saying 90% of all red builds is bs tho

@narrow kraken do you even know what build you are trying to make

[viscid root]

You have builds with two Cheska? If not, replace something else with Cheska, so that the Overlord is replacing something different, and re-evaluate.

[thorn hedge]

If you don't then figure that out before trying to match pieces together

[thorn hedge]

What

Gearset builds run 4 of the set And 1 Ceska 1 coyote/grupo

No room for FP

[viscid root]

Right, so what about your all-red non-Gear Set builds?

[narrow kraken]

yes, why

[thorn hedge]

That's not what I said

[thorn hedge]

Because then you shouldn't be asking these questions lol

If you know what gear you need then you shouldn't be asking these questions involving gear

[narrow kraken]

I know what i wanat to make I just didnt know what this meant

the skill tier

[thorn hedge]

It means skills get better

[viscid root]

I think if you try to build a skill damage loadout using regular gear (not Gear Set pieces), turret and drone, and focus on increasing the skill damage of that, you'll start to understand the different focuses a build can have. And that's a fairly easy one to work out yourself.

[thorn hedge]

Skill builds cringe

Anyways I'm going to drive home so bye

[narrow kraken]

drive safe

wear a seatbelt

use both hands

😉

[viscid root]

I don't think your personal preferences regarding skill builds (which are perfectly fine) are relevant to the pedagogical value to TAXI of making one.

[brazen mountain]

I have been farming nonstop for Cheska, but all Lootcifer gives me are Ceska. 🤔

[blazing timber]

bruh cheska doesn't exist in the game it is ceska

[thorn hedge]

A skill build using true patriot is concerning as hell

[amber snow]

Anyone knows what causes the stupid mechanic that teleports everyone to the extract zone in countdown so everyone spawns between all the hunters and dies?