#off-topic-discussions

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bronze olive
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ignoring current leaders

modest pebble
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listing a specific group? as i said?

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i was talking about terrorist groups

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not leaders

bronze olive
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excuse me

modest pebble
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nor did i say they dont exist

bronze olive
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pardon me

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do you have any grey poupon

dense parcel
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Anyway what’s everyone up too

lost girder
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exsqueeze me

modest pebble
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not really sure what the pissyness is for but sure

lost girder
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baking powder

bronze olive
lost girder
bronze olive
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cry yourself to sleep on your huge pillow

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dont take me seriously

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ever

lost girder
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i dont think odder has an animu body pillow

dense parcel
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All shits n giggles 🙏🏽

bronze olive
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even now

dense parcel
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Till that one poor soul giggles n shits 😐

lost girder
dense parcel
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😐

bronze olive
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poop is funny

lost girder
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shit is funnier

dense parcel
lost girder
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and thats science talking, not me

bronze olive
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but thats funny to me

modest pebble
bronze olive
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not to you

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you not pooping is hilarious to me

lost girder
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hey. it's all ships n kibbles

bronze olive
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dogshit...funny too

dense parcel
modest pebble
dense parcel
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Y u hate it btw

bronze olive
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crap

dense parcel
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Pretty chill Saturday eh

bronze olive
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kaka

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doo doo

dense parcel
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Gross

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Go to the bathroom plz

bronze olive
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i am

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notices im on mobile

dense parcel
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I don’t notice the difference

bronze olive
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my joke was im pooping as we talk

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but that is not true

dense parcel
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Ah that’s bad

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Taking a shit while on phone

lost girder
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most people do that.

modest pebble
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only thing that would be bad to do on your phone is too tug ur rug

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But thats objectively bad

bronze olive
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lol

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in my defense im not on my phone

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i have a desktop in the bathroom

modest pebble
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thats the most degenerate shit ive heard

bronze olive
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not everything you read is true

dense parcel
lost girder
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is there also a cupholder on the "throne"? lmao

bronze olive
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i put a mic in the bowl for better acoustics

lost girder
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subwoofer at the base of the bowl so you can feel the vibes, lol

bronze olive
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this guy gets it

dense parcel
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I hate the people that be using the phone n driving tho

lost girder
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you mean sat navs?

dense parcel
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One of the staff here be doing that

dense parcel
bronze olive
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im a dork when it comes to driving

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mr safe and slow

dense parcel
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Ah u a good circle

lost girder
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i like that theyre ticketing people now for that

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jamming up traffic just so you're always up-to-date on insta, smh

dense parcel
lost girder
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into a ditch?

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i hope so

dense parcel
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Only thing ok for using ur phone while driving is checking the gps

lost girder
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nothing more irksome than someone making others late

modest pebble
dense parcel
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I also don’t get why people still hold their phone while driving n be on call

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It’s 2021 bluetooth exist 😐

modest pebble
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youve never driven

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sometimes u dont have time to get your dumbass bluetooth phones on

dense parcel
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But that was back when I was a kid

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N ended up crashing mums car xd

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I prob will eventually get a car tho

modest pebble
dense parcel
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Well she wasn’t in the car

lost girder
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was she aware?

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of your plan, i mean

dense parcel
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Nah

lost girder
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GTA

modest pebble
lost girder
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we were all dumber as kids

dense parcel
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Exactly

lost girder
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so it's alright

dense parcel
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Si

lost girder
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but shiiiiiit, that was a felony.

dense parcel
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nah my record straight

lost girder
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jacking a ride.... you couldve been barred from getting a DL for a long while

dense parcel
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Clean asf boi

lost girder
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it happened to an ex-finace

bronze olive
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i got hit by a pizza guy on his cell phone

lost girder
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on foot, bike, moped, car?

bronze olive
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3 spine surgeries each

lost girder
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sounds like a car

bronze olive
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in a car stopped a light, he...didnt

lost girder
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hope you sued them into the ground

dense parcel
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U holding up ok these days tho? @bronze olive

bronze olive
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such a fucking pain

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but over a year later after getting hit relatively normal

dense parcel
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Damn bruh

bronze olive
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its life man

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what can you do i guess

lost girder
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you get compensated?

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like for all the emotional/physical damages

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lost wages

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theres still.... whats it called, i dont think emotional damages is the correct term.

bronze olive
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eh

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it goes by the books more or less for shit like this

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its unfortunately less human than emotional damages

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lawyer fees, plus if you go to court lawyers fees go up a bit as opposed to settling out of court

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assuming you have a good lawyer

lost girder
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true

bronze olive
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total examples

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i have no idea what to expect

dense parcel
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Gonna watch twilight series😩

shy vine
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Hiii

dense parcel
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Hiya

shy vine
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How are you? :3

dense parcel
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Not too shabby hbu

shy vine
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Ehh

dense parcel
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Y eh

shy vine
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Headaches

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People annoyed me alot today

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Ever heard of Destiny 2?

dense parcel
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I feel u

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N yea I played it earlier

shy vine
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Yeah

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I had to carry 6 people to flawless in Trials of Osiris today

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But the thing is

amber horizon
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you didnt have to

shy vine
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I’m a muted person, I’m born without a voice

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I did, because I promised them

amber horizon
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you didnt have to promise them, thats on you

shy vine
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But 2 of them kept ego challenging and got themselves cornered

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What’s your point aspect?

modest pebble
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Hes grumpy would be my guess

amber horizon
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my point is you could have saved yourself the trouble

shy vine
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I’m literally just saying why i got headaches and why I’m annoyed

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Jeez, I’ll shut up already ._.

amber horizon
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you brought that upon yourself

shy vine
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Holy shit man, if you have nothing positive to say just shut up

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I’m happy I took them flawless tho

dense parcel
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Hopefully ur headache goes away

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🙏

shy vine
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The excitement in their reactions was gold for me

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You want me to carry you to the lighthouse perhaps, Aspect?

modest pebble
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Godamm

dense parcel
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I wouldn't mind a carry in nightfall

amber horizon
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absolutely not, you'll find a way to complain about me.

shy vine
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Get him to do that pos strike we attempted Aspect XD

amber horizon
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lmao

shy vine
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Why are you so grumpy dude

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Holy shit

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I’m not a him, thank you

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...her.. it?

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Her

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Lol

shy vine
dense parcel
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Ah Mars says it as well

amber horizon
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Corrupted, Malfeasance variant

shy vine
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Ez

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Sup Oni.

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I can help tomorrow if wanted :)

dense parcel
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Playing cod n watching twilight n eating starburst

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Hbu

shy vine
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...what in the unholy hell lol

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starburst?

modest pebble
shy vine
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Fruit candy

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Oh

dense parcel
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It's a type of candy

shy vine
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Playing New World while i can before it ends tonight.

modest pebble
shy vine
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^

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Ahh

modest pebble
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i love them but i hate them

shy vine
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Good flavor, shit texture? Lol

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Think taffy

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If your familiar with that candy

modest pebble
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there good texture and flavor but they just stick to every single part of ur mouth

hallow elk
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Well what do you know

modest pebble
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what do we know

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very true

shy vine
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Idk all these candies

modest pebble
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I only know all deez nuts

shy vine
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I’m from The Netherlands, Europe

hallow elk
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Apparently if you fire a ATGM near the enemy AA tralier it will attempt to shoot it down

shy vine
hallow elk
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In BF4

modest pebble
shy vine
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Joke?

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Joke deez nutz

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Choke

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Joke

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...if you have to explain it...

modest pebble
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did u say u were a female

shy vine
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Yes?

hallow elk
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W o w

modest pebble
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how tf do i choke on deez nuts//

shy vine
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Didn’t say what kind of nuts

hallow elk
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Note to self do not fire an atgm at an AAA

shy vine
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Can also be your own nuts

rough lava
shy vine
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Some limber people id say

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Lmao

modest pebble
shy vine
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Lmao

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Im hushing now.. rules and all that here

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I mean, I got some melons, would those work too?

modest pebble
dense parcel
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Sweet a pillow

shy vine
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I do not doubt that at all lol

shy vine
sturdy igloo
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Kewkwekwe

bronze olive
dense parcel
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@bronze olive howdy

bronze olive
hollow yarrow
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Ur mom

dense parcel
hollow yarrow
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fuck....

bronze olive
dense parcel
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Sus

hollow yarrow
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What the fuck yo.....

dense parcel
dense parcel
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Pretty cool gator

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Remembering him

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My bad croc

hallow elk
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School

dense parcel
hallow elk
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On lunch break

grizzled turtle
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Anyone watch y the last man

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It's apocalyptic, looks like division lol

bronze olive
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Amber Tamblyn no thank you

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tried some of the comics years ago anyways, eh

bronze olive
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I do remember Yorick had a lighter that said “fuck communism”

umbral lake
bronze olive
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death to all tyrants...hot take

dense parcel
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Gotta get me one of those 🙏🏽

lost girder
modest pebble
dense parcel
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True

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Sbr be asses

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Just get a brace n shoulder it 4head

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Pistol ftw

bronze olive
lost girder
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i assumed it was like an easter egg, since both are under the vertigo imprint

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pretty cool one too.

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i only read like... the first volume, maybe the first two.

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so idk if Y did more of that.

bronze olive
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it went pretty long

grizzled turtle
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i liked Y so far

lost girder
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i meant did more refs.

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like if they did a nod to sandman or something

dense parcel
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Gonna watch the guilty with Jake in it😌

hollow yarrow
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Ah fuck, I read my heartbeat out of curiosity and it’s literally almost 150. I searched if it’s normal, and apparently I have Supraventricular Tachycardia, or just beat really fast for no reason

amber horizon
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never look up your symptoms, just deal with them and hope you dont pass out

hollow yarrow
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I mean, it fits the bill right. But I’m not gonna self diagnose.

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I’m not doing anything either to trigger that fast of a heart rate, I’m just sitting down and staring at a screen.

amber horizon
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I mean my hr is around 80 to 90, despite me legit sitting around and organizing things.

lost girder
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maybe you have too much updog?

hollow yarrow
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Nah, can’t be, I just woke up after a nap.

amber horizon
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whos steve jobs

hollow yarrow
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Steve ur mom 🤣

amber horizon
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no my dad is president of nintendo

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my dad can beat up ur dad

hollow yarrow
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My dad sat in his chair and got 70k dollars

amber horizon
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expensive ass

hollow yarrow
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yes sirrrr 😋

hollow yarrow
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Man, I really want to waste this $560 I saved up on a specific rubber and turn them into water balloons

random skiff
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okay im kinda curious now.
"rubber"?

amber horizon
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oh no

random skiff
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yeahhhhh that means something real different here.

lost girder
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probably means a prophylactic

random skiff
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Hopper is 160yrs old, confirmed.

amber horizon
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even with the amount of shit i give everyone i still love ya all

lost girder
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do you? never noticed.

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...the first part, not the second

random skiff
hollow yarrow
bronze olive
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Go to a doctor

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Like you could just be nervous taking it yourself too.

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Is your BP high or just your HR

lost girder
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it's mildly unsettling when they don't put any words with the links.

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spooky like.

late vine
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who's on mod duty today?

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@brisk cypress and again, if you would be so kind?

worldly rampart
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🤷‍♂️ lol what it was just a clip

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🤷‍♂️ for some reason this server dosent embed clips or gifs or images from links

modest pebble
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they dont embed them for obv reasons

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gifs or anything embeded gets cached by discord on ur PC

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gifs that involve something bad like malware, spy ware all that are now downloaded onto your PC

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but those things are hard to come by

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also porn links and nsfw stuff

worldly rampart
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discord has its own gif selector intergrated into it

modest pebble
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and?

late vine
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designed to steal your steam login or something

modest pebble
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steal ur discord security token

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and possibly ur steam login if your stupid enough. but unless your on a windows XP PC windows defender will block the link and wont take u too the login spot

worldly rampart
late vine
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ah, that would make more sense - thought you were responding to the admin call I made just above your comment

worldly rampart
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🤷‍♂️ its a clip
but this server dosent embed so you cant view it through the chat box

modest pebble
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Ive already said why

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its pretty common

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most offical servers dont allow embedding

worldly rampart
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😔 im in 3 "verified" servers that dose allow embeding for sharing clips/screenshots

modest pebble
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verified/=/official.

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yes alot of places do

worldly rampart
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also not allowing embeds makes #td2-build-advice dumb because then you cant post screenshots of your build

modest pebble
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but very few official servers allow it. theyre ran by big companies ea, ubisoft. verified are run by anyone.

thorn prism
worldly rampart
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🤷‍♂️ idk i just share a screenshot/clip across diffrent servers

lost girder
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after i finish moving tomorrow, im gonna sleep for a week

modest pebble
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extremely interesting video

sacred snow
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that's your new name

random skiff
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211 Pyrotic & 45 Thyst away from finishing the Operator Cosmetics.
can I borrow a hammer to hit myself with for doing this in the first place?

amber horizon
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🦇

random skiff
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ta Aspect.

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🔨 found it.

lost girder
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too many hour with ammonia based cleaners.

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last night, had sharp pain in my lungs when i breathed

shy vine
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Ya might want to get that checked out.. doesnt take but a few minutes to seriously mess up your lungs when it comes to breathing in chemicals 🙂

amber horizon
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Stay safe, hopper.

sacred snow
umbral lake
random skiff
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actually never bothered with that one.

lost girder
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but yeah, that was worrisome

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it would stop me in my tracks

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and then i'd go back to moving boxes

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took me a while to sleep that night

lost girder
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happy batman day

sacred snow
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there's batman day?

lost girder
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apparently.

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DC and WB send me e-mails every year

sacred snow
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dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun

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BATMAN

sterile cobalt
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i need some division 2 friends the dark zone dangerous

frozen sparrow
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fuckin #lfg-early-game-pc then @sterile cobalt

sterile cobalt
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i'm not LFG bro sorry your mad

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i'm LFF Looking for firends

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🤷‍♂️

random skiff
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If you're not specifically looking for people to play with, just start chatting on the relevant channels here and build up a rapport.
if your intent is to play div2 with someone, then it's best to ask in an LFG to actually play.

sterile cobalt
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ty rivens i appreciate you reaching out and explaining.

frozen sparrow
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things might’ve gone a bit more smoothly if you had conversed here instead of randomly DM’ing me and then saying “I’m not LFG I’m looking for friends”

sterile cobalt
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Nah for real your just toxic and got some things to work on

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You could of just not responded in general if you had no contribution to the conversation

frozen sparrow
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you’ve got to work on your eyesight cus you don’t know which channels to post in, that’s all

sterile cobalt
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i mean i'm new here but also i never said i was looking for group so instead of reading stuff to try and attack people try to understand instead

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your communication skills are lacking and you come off as a discord troll who does this often

frozen sparrow
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if your tactic to make friends is to say outright “I want friends” then idk what to tell you

sterile cobalt
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Samson — Today at 8:58 AM
i need some division 2 friends the dark zone dangerous

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bruh what i did say that

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Kirby yes says me you just contradicted yourself i would say we got off on the wrong foot but it's just you you're toxic

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kirby, fan cleaner — Today at 9:28 AM
if your tactic to make friends is to say outright “I want friends” then idk what to tell you
Samson — Today at 9:28 AM
Samson — Today at 8:58 AM
i need some division 2 friends the dark zone dangerous

frozen sparrow
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calling my communication skills lacking you’re really one to talk, I’ve been straightforward this whole time

sterile cobalt
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Being straightforward is not communication when you're just insulting and being rude

random skiff
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People, go argue in DM's, not in off-topic of the div2 server.

reef shoal
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that's kinda boring though

sterile cobalt
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🤣

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We can mic up in my discord or this one channel kirby if you communicate better vocally

frozen sparrow
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I do not want to speak to you

sterile cobalt
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@reef shoal Are goats agressive?

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@frozen sparrow okay

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I've that effect on people

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💪

sterile cobalt
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lol

umbral lake
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goats are delicious

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in curry

sterile cobalt
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never had before

umbral lake
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me neither

dense parcel
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@bitter eagle

bitter eagle
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Oh yeah sorry lol 😂

dense parcel
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All good

bitter eagle
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As i was saying never got into d2 because alot of dlcs i have to buy lol

dense parcel
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U should get into d2 tho it’s fun n has a shit ton of loot

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Only con is majority of the content locked behind dlc

bitter eagle
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I watch my friends play it on stream and it does look like it

bitter eagle
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I wish a good sale happens when next dlc comes out

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It's not the only game that does that tho

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You ever played borderlands 3 ?

dense parcel
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Tho I’m power 1292 n got a few exotics n decent legendary weapons but I mostly play pvp n gambit

dense parcel
bitter eagle
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Alot of stuff there is dlc dependent too

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But atleast there's a season pass lol

dense parcel
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I played it … didn’t like it much n returned it

bitter eagle
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Didn't miss much if you ask me lmao

dense parcel
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I enjoyed 2 tho

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3 just hits different

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@bitter eagle played outriders?

bitter eagle
bitter eagle
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I still plan to pick it up on a good sale

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I am sure it will get fixed or get better

dense parcel
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Not a live service game tho

bitter eagle
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What???

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Really?

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Then why all the complaints about servers ?

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Offliners and what not lol

dense parcel
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But if u can get it for $30-40 it’s a solid looter shooter game

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Live service meaning dlc / battle passes etc / expansions

bitter eagle
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Ohhhhh

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That's actually great then

dense parcel
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Last time I check they don’t plan on adding stuff like that too it therefore u stuck with the base game

bitter eagle
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No free updates even ?

dense parcel
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Game still online only

dense parcel
bitter eagle
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I might get it on a good sale then

dense parcel
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Anyway it’s a solid game definitely had a rough launch but it’s nice

random skiff
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I'm super interested in trying Outriders, but I feel like it's one of those "will be $10 before too long" things.

thorn prism
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I would definitely wait until it's $10

random skiff
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I'm getting a very "Anthem" vibe from it, and while I did enjoy that, paying more than $10 would've been a bad call.

dense parcel
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If anything $20 is solid

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I preordered at the time n paid $63 xd cuz of tax

thorn prism
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Anthem was fun but yeah Outriders has the same vibe. Played the demo,then tried it at friend's house because they had it free on Xbox and decided it wasn't worth it

random skiff
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gotta love those aus exchange rates!

thorn prism
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Oof that sucks

random skiff
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that it does.
honestly, just waiting for a free weekend so I can decide if it's Avengers or div2. aka: throw or keep.

thorn prism
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Avengers is another game I wanted to try but not sure about it either. Are people saying it's worth it now?

dense parcel
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It has gotten some nice qol updates

random skiff
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I mean personally, I played the free weekend and oof does it feel paint-by-numbers.

dense parcel
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Especially the recent one

thorn prism
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I'll check it out next free weekend

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I'm kinda waiting awhile until my favorite games come out

dense parcel
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I bought it a few months ago cuz I like marvel shit

thorn prism
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I'm waiting for Spiderman 2 (2023) and Wolverine (???)

bitter eagle
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2024 i think

thorn prism
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There's another marvel game coming out, I can't remember the name right now

bitter eagle
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Midnight suns

thorn prism
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Yea that one

random skiff
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me not really being "into" that stuff probs explains why I don't care for it.

dense parcel
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Next game I’ll prob cop gonna be cod vanguard n ghost of toshima

bitter eagle
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Card game, looks decent i like card games but definitely wouldn't pay 60 for it lol

thorn prism
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It's a card game?

bitter eagle
bitter eagle
thorn prism
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Nah just the teaser cutscenes

bitter eagle
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Ohhhhh lol

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Watch some gameplay, it's a card game which i think already makes alot of fans not wanna get it lol but for those who like card games they will like it

dense parcel
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Goons be working in the next few weeks tho 🙏🏽 so I might look internet getting a ps5

bitter eagle
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Ps5+ ghost of tsushima go brrrrrr petter

thorn prism
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Horizon Forbidden West coming out February I think

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That's the one I'm getting next

bitter eagle
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@thorn prism the marvel game i wish gets added to pc,ps and xbox is marvel ultimate alliance 3 the switch exclusive

dense parcel
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I like stadia tho but local hardware be nice n my ps4 gonna be outdated soon n barely get new games shit cod vanguard barely runs well on old gen

thorn prism
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I have it it's fun but I haven't played it in awhile

bitter eagle
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Can't you get vanguard on stadia ?

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I am not sure what is and not available there

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I don't even know how the console look like tbh lmao

dense parcel
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Nah plus I don’t play competitive games on stadia I save it for my ps4 atm till I get ps5

thorn prism
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I haven't been in a rush to get a PS5 yet and everytime I buy a console an upgraded version comes out

bitter eagle
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Have you thought of pc option?

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Or gaming laptop if no space

dense parcel
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Maybe a labtop

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I do have one but it’s shit

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Prob get ps5 first tho assuming people still aren’t scalping em

bitter eagle
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Lol

thorn prism
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They're still scalping and there's a shortage

dense parcel
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Well fuck me

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Might get a switch then xd

thorn prism
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A chip shortage which is causing shortages with other things like cars, TV etc.

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New switch is coming out but will probably get scalped too

dense parcel
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Is the ps4 pro aight?

thorn prism
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I still have the OG, I bought a PS4 and then about 6 month later the Pro came out

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Just never bothered exchanging

dense parcel
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Interesting

bitter eagle
thorn prism
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Bought a switch then another came out with longer handheld battery life

bitter eagle
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Don't think you need the full version unless you wanna play on a monitor or big tv

thorn prism
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Switch lite is good but joycon drift is a big issue

bitter eagle
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That's in every controller tho

thorn prism
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Yeah but nintendo joycons are terrible

bitter eagle
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Lol

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I think connecting a ps4 controller is better

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Or ps5 if you have one 😂

thorn prism
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Just get a switch pro controller

bitter eagle
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That works too

young sparrow
thorn prism
young sparrow
#

even phone is better for gaming than cringtendo

thorn prism
#

Oh ok

amber horizon
#

Oh ok

dense parcel
#

Oh ok

hallow elk
#

Oh ok

modest pebble
#

Oh ok

bitter eagle
#

Oh ok

lost girder
thorn prism
#

Aw you were supposed to join the hive mind

amber horizon
#

Oh ok

jaunty pebble
#

Does anyone know any program that can disable Windows button temporarily? I accidentally press it so many times and Division 2 just crashes because of it

random skiff
umbral lake
#

This is not ok.

sacred snow
#

LMB is in persona 4 now?

modest pebble
#

Who ghost ping me

frozen sparrow
#

me sorry

umbral lake
frozen sparrow
#

yo tf I just saw Paul Rhodes in the credits of MW2 remastered

lost girder
#

VA? or someone named paul rhodes?

frozen sparrow
#

someone named Paul Rhodes in the credits

lost girder
#

Oh ok.

frozen sparrow
#

mildly interesting

steel umbra
#

Is there a Ghost Recon Wildlands discord?

#

Or just a ghost recon discord

lost girder
#

yes

#

just a franchise server

steel umbra
#

If possible can you send me an invite?

#

Dm me probably if you can

hallow elk
#

i made another drawing

random skiff
lost girder
#

i didnt send them an invite, still trying to get my computer up-and-running

frozen sparrow
#

bruh tf

#

didn’t get the Immortal achievement in Modern Warfare 2 remastered

#

why

#

I restarted the mission every time I died or failed

#

and it doesn’t even track properly so idk which missions have and haven’t counted

#

does failing the pit run count as a checkpoint restart/fail state? i can’t think of anything else

#

bruhhh

#

it actually is the pit

#

no??

#

I did that again and the achievement still hasn’t shown up for a few minutes

#

this is bullshit

#

I’ve been sat here for a few hours mindlessly playing on fuckin recruit

#

just to not get the achievement

#

oh that is fucking ridiculous

#

pressing “restart mission” doesn’t count

#

you have to save and quit and reselect the mission

#

that is absolute crap

sturdy igloo
#

mmm some of these leaked games from the Geforce Now database sounds scrumptious

amber horizon
#

tekken 8 & sf6 hehee

frozen sparrow
#

tekken 8 isn’t gonna be a thing yet right? they’re making tekken X street fighter first aren’t they

amber horizon
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#

We've known tekken 8 and sf6 are coming, just dunno when

shy vine
#

Im down for a new Tekken

#

I suck absolute ass at fighting games outside Soul Caliber, but tekken always seemed.. fun for me.

amber horizon
#

hell yeah, i never got into 7 but when the new one drops i'll be hella into it

amber horizon
shy vine
#

That one is like Mortal Kombatt for me.. iv tried since their release, and never could do the 30+ combo chains required to truely be "good"

#

Thus why Soul Caliber is my jam lol

amber horizon
#

Guilty gear is much less about combos, as of Strive! Gatlings have been restrained, and made much more beginner friendly.

shy vine
#

I dont mind if its a chain in ways of say, Heavy heavy light llight dodge, but when you go into combo's longer than a paragraph.. shit is just mind numbing for my brain. lol

amber horizon
#

I used to think the same, i joined the GG train in Xrdrev2, but never really got into it. When strive came out and i saw it was more beginner friendly, i was all in.

frozen sparrow
shy vine
#

Hmm

amber horizon
amber horizon
# shy vine Hmm

My main character's gameplan is legit run up, grab, kick, slash, heavy, slash, heavy, slash, heavy, super.

#

And hope....

shy vine
#

I just want a new Soul Caliber to see Nightmare again.. He made me love fighting games because he is super easy to learn, fun to play, and doesnt need an expert to use properly

#

Followed by Maxi but still

amber horizon
#

Some characters are combo intensive, like Millia or Chipp, but characters like potemkin or ky just need some solid basics for some seriously good plays

shy vine
#

Any recommendation based on my love for simplicity?

#

Like Law for beginners if you will

#

lol

amber horizon
#

Ky has super good basics. He's got a uppercut, a low, a jumping overhead, awesome projectiles, and a super good super.

#

Potemkin if you like grapplers, but he's HUGE.

shy vine
#

None of that frame bs like in SF?

amber horizon
#

?

shy vine
#

Timing frames with actions to ignore moves from your opponite

amber horizon
#

???

shy vine
#

...

#

its like... what i hate most about SF lol

amber horizon
#

like invincibility frames?

shy vine
#

yes

#

that plays a part, but basically it

amber horizon
#

Some attacks have "full" invincibility, but those are supers, and their invincibility starts pretty-ish into it, and your forward punch has upper body invincibility. Thats it.

shy vine
#

Thats... actually refreshing to know

amber horizon
#

Some have specific invincibility, like leo's counter, which is strike invulnerable but not grab invulnerable. Thats the only one i know like that...

shy vine
#

Supers i expect, or whatever game coins the move as. Its standard moves that piss me off that if you time right takes away all skill from the game and breeds the little shits that abuse that exploit.

#

Its why i will always hate SF because it loves that shit

#

No counter to something pisses me off

amber horizon
#

If someone is spamming forward punch, just hit them in the dick.

shy vine
#

LOL

#

god bless

#

Real world tactics works in Strive lol

#

Is their weapon usage btw?

amber horizon
#

Liiiike?

shy vine
#

...like Soul

amber horizon
#

Switching weapons for characters?

shy vine
#

Or even MK

amber horizon
#

Or just "this dude has a sword"

shy vine
#

Or is it more, fists and kicks

amber horizon
#

Depends on the character. Ky has a sword, Millia uses magic hair (bayonetta but less.. you know.), potemkin has gun-gauntlets, sol also has a sword, Leo has... 2 big swords, I-No uses a guitar and a bunch of magic, Anji has a pair of fans...

shy vine
#

Millia uses magic hair (bayonetta but less.. you know.) 🤣 Love that description

amber horizon
#

Goldlewis uses a coffin with an alien inside, nagoriyuki has a katana and the smaller katana

#

Chipp has an armblade and ninja stuff...

shy vine
#

Hmm

#

So its pretty diverse, i like

amber horizon
#

May has a straight up anchor! Yes, a real anchor.

shy vine
#

Will have to wait on a sale then

amber horizon
#

Its very good, went on sale for EVO, dunno when the next sale will be.

shy vine
#

Im sure an autumn/fall sale will hit soon

amber horizon
#

I'll stream the game for ya sometime over discord, see if ya like how it looks.

shy vine
#

Iv seen vids and stuff but thought it was combo heavy

amber horizon
#

Not nearly as long as the previous games, and with the combo prorate theres really no reason.

shy vine
#

Chain this 10 move combo into this other 6 move, then 8 move, to a special, type of deal... my bad for assuming i guess

amber horizon
#

In xrd a 40 hit long attack was common. In strive, maybe 10, and 3 come from the same move, and the combos arent as hard.

shy vine
#

I just dont have the memory mentality to do all that XD

amber horizon
#

Zato fights with his shadowy friend! He's also voiced by dio and jotaro.

#

Dio's voice actor in JP, Jotaro's voice actor in EN.

shy vine
#

Been trying MK series all the way up to 10 with my brother and he always destroyed me because i cant remember the paragraph long move sets needed to fight. Soul Caliber I destroy his ass on a regular lol

#

Will put Guilty on my radar for sure then

amber horizon
#

Potemkin you might like, then. You just wait for your opponent to make a mistake... then take 80% of their health.

shy vine
#

Ah a counter person, that i can get behind for sure

#

Its why i like Nightmare in SC, he is devistating for those that try and get all hot and heavy

amber horizon
#

Less counter, more "you left yourself open. Let me realign your back for you. Forcefully."

shy vine
#

lol

#

I liiike indeed

amber horizon
#

I gotta work in a couple hours, talk to ya tommorow. Whenever you are free, hit me up! I'll show ya some GG.

shy vine
#

Will try and do so then, thanks for the info and sleep well

frozen sparrow
#

oh it got cancelled

#

rip

lost girder
#

yeah, i remember how they were each supposed to take a turn

frozen sparrow
#

starting my mw2 veteran playthrough now, wish me luck 🙏

shy vine
#

Enjoy it. Havent done a Cod playthrough in years. Always fun to run Vet difficulty

#

That gradual death low-high pitch is engraved in me lol

#

Have you attempted this before or a fresh new run?

frozen sparrow
#

never played veteran before but I’ve been playing CoD for as long as I can remember

shy vine
#

Oh then you will love it.

#

A lot less run and gun unless your really good at it.

#

Just know the enemy locations most of all, kite if need be, pick off enemies more before advancing. Honestly it makes it more akin to an actual battle

#

MW2 OG or remaster?

#

I havent played the Remaster, but the OG is what I was referring to.

#

Makes me want to install it, was included in a bundle I got a while ago, but never played the remaster.

#

The day they fully remaster, overhaul the orginal CoD i will be in heaven and my inner child will reach peak happiness.

frozen sparrow
#

i don’t have my og copy of mw2 but it feels fine to play

frozen sparrow
shy vine
#

Nice

#

Runs as good as MW2019 I assume?

frozen sparrow
#

I haven’t booted that game up in over a year now so I can’t say

shy vine
#

Its on the same engine, so I expect it to, thus why i asked. Might have to install it then.

#

Most play CoD for the MP, which is good for its own stuff, but I grew up without internet and always played the games for the campaigns. Gotta give it a try I guess.

#

Let me know how it fairs to the og!

frozen sparrow
#

I’ve always cared more about the campaigns, even though I’m a bit above average in multiplayer I’d say

#

or was at least

shy vine
#

Same, wasnt great at MP, but I could do some damage with a decent team/group.

#

Age has, not been kind to my competitive games..

#

Best of luck in Vet though! Im sure you will enjoy it.. even with the frustration on some missions.

frozen sparrow
#

I’m not looking forward to the favelas or the BTR at the start of Wolverines, I think I’ll get by on the rest

shy vine
#

Again, kite.. be a bastard if need be. Fair play at that difficulty.

#

Installing the game now myself. Need a good shooter campaign to go through... why not ya know?

frozen sparrow
#

it’s one of if not the best, that’s why not :p

shy vine
#

Indeed

#

Speaking of good campaigns from CoD.. i recently came across Infinite Warfare for like.. 5 bucks.. even thought the MP was absolute ass on that game.. the campaign was amazingly well done!

#

I actually want a continuation on its campaign, I really enjoyed it!

#

Characters were interesting, the maps were fun to play, the story was really good with the Mars and Earth aspect. Overall I liked how they did it.

frozen sparrow
#

IW campaign was great, I appreciated the side missions and the environments

shy vine
#

True, took what Black Ops tried and perfected it more

#

improved it more i guess, wasnt perfected, but you get my meaning

#

I never played Advanced Warfare... any point in trying it out?

frozen sparrow
#

nah

#

none of the campaign levels really stand out it’s just mediocre

shy vine
#

Damn. Thanks for the info though.

frozen sparrow
#

lmao tf since when is there a car there

#

I just got ran over by some random civilian in the middle of a war zone 😆

shy vine
#

o.O

#

What mission?

#

I dont recall any cars randomly running around lol

frozen sparrow
#

the one with the IFV and the unexplained conspiracy dead guy at the end

shy vine
#

Suburb fight?

#

God its been too many years

#

Recall following an APC of some sort in a place and that name but, been too long

#

I guess I really do need to replay it

frozen sparrow
#

ah, unexplained conspiracy dead guy, we hardly knew ye

shy vine
#

rip unknown conspirator.

dense parcel
#

Oh ok

frozen sparrow
#

Ok these achievements are straight up broken.

#

just beat the campaign on veteran, but two of the achievements for beating missions and the achievement for beating the campaign haven’t come up

#

ok one of the mission achievements just showed up

#

but the achievement for the missions before that still hasn’t

#

I cannot believe this

#

turning my fuckin xbox off

frozen sparrow
#

Ok what the FUCK

#

it says I’ve completed every mission on veteran except one?

#

oh my god I bet I know what it is

#

I turned on A Bad Year for a few minutes cus I was bored

#

it didn’t come up with any no achievements message but I bet that’s what it is

#

didn’t even die 😎 achievements get

#

eight achievements left 👀

amber horizon
#

I slept for like maybe 2 hours

#

And i'm fine????

#

Huh. Weird.

frozen sparrow
#

sad

#

I didn’t sleep well either

hallow elk
#

Thats normal for me

lost girder
#

its a good solid hour and 15 of REM sleep

amber horizon
#

Maybe thats why i dont feel terrible

shrewd hearth
#

Got a lemonade arizona iced tea. Pretty good. Cost me £2 but still kinda worth for 680ml

sacred snow
#

That’s a lot of lemonade for 2 bucks,I think?

frozen sparrow
sacred snow
#

Fuck I forgot that’s not USD

shy vine
#

Still not bad, thats like what.. $2.75?

amber horizon
#

2.35

late vine
#

$2.75 would be closer at rates these days, it's about $1.38 per £1

shy vine
#

Granted im going off prices in my area too, some places that might be expensive as hell for that amount div2shrug

dense parcel
#

Oh ok

shrewd hearth
shy vine
#

Its like.. $2.50 ish here for that same amount (powder mix)

hallow elk
#

Great

#

Woke up at 1 again

amber horizon
#

All u gotta do is just not wake up at 1

#

Its that easy

hollow yarrow
#

Get an alarm and shove it up your ass. That’ll wake you up when you want to.

frozen sparrow
#

I am fucking annoyed

#

I tried to go to bed early

#

I keep fucking waking up

#

this is the third time

hallow elk
#

What time was it this time?

frozen sparrow
sacred snow
#

your body is not familiar with it yet

late vine
#

yeah I get the same thing, however tired I am if I go to bed more than 30 mins before my usual time I just wake up a few hours later, can't get back to sleep for ages, then I'm just as tired the next day

frozen sparrow
#

I’ve been playing Mw2remastered recently and thinking, saving the white house should’ve looked a lot more like this in Division 2

lost girder
#

its throwing me off how much s3 of true detective is giving off s1 vibes. must be because s2 was so different.

lost plover
#

Legit forgot about True Detective. Yeah, season 3 was great

amber horizon
#

@sacred snow persona 4 golden is 30% off in the steam store

dawn notch
#

i may suck at every game i play but i can run a 5k in 19:59

late vine
#

quick

hallow elk
#

Wonka

umbral lake
#

had absolutely no idea they will pull this off
@random skiff

#

much, much better than the official engrish translation in the in-game subs

random skiff
#

covers aren't really my thing, but that's well done.

shy vine
#

Not even an actual fan of Warframe, but that cover is pretty nice!

random skiff
#

it helps that the base song slaps.
that and the Fortuna one are both great, looking forward to the next.

shy vine
#

Also helps im a sucker for a good vocalist regardless of the genre of music.. 😅

lone sinew
#

hello chat

amber horizon
lone sinew
#

knew it, lol

frozen sparrow
#

man I want a burger

#

like, a quarter pounder

umbral lake
#

damn me too

#

But its in-n-out for me, animal style

frozen sparrow
#

make it cry, extra axel grease

lone sinew
#

btw, is there any ubisoft offices in thailand?

amber horizon
#

I dont believe so?

#

Why do you ask?

lone sinew
#

was kinda curious, since they seem to know alot about the thai baht and stuff

amber horizon
#

Huh

#

@sacred snow please explain for me, be my ambassador

sacred snow
#

i'm vietnamese,Aspect

amber horizon
#

You dont know what ambassadors are?

#

You go there, learn, come back, explain

shy vine
#

Expect too much of us Aspect. We are but simple servants trying to enlighten fellow players. >_>

sacred snow
#

damm got the wrong definition

sacred snow
#

fuck this shit their language looks like bacteria

lone sinew
#

LOL

hollow yarrow
#

Man. How the tables have turned. Went from the Whites being oppressors to the whites soon becoming the oppressed. It kinda sucks that it looks like it’s turning out that way.

random skiff
#

At least your name is accurate.

#

Odder, quit while you're WAY behind.

hollow yarrow
#

there

#

They stereotype white people now.

#

Hurts my head.

hollow yarrow
#

man, people who say you can't be racist to a white person really just hurts my head more.

frozen sparrow
#

you are right but shit I thought no one talked about this since like 2017 lol

halcyon crater
#

Sh!t comes in all colors.

#

(Still the racism towards minorities, immigrants, whatever is the most common of c, just my 2 cents)

fossil cobalt
#

we are monkeys, we will be tribal

#

or should be

fossil cobalt
#

The two girls in the video are absolutely braindead though. There is a difference between being self aware and trying to enforce segregation for sins that peoples ancestors committed 200 years ago

random skiff
#

I honestly can't believe a mod hasn't stepped into this chat yet.

frozen sparrow
#

I probably should’ve read that reddit title properly 🤔

fossil cobalt
#

too serious for ya skittles?

brisk cypress
#

Welll

#

Let's stop further discussions about it

#

Good day, amirite? 🙂

fossil cobalt
#

lol

#

typical

#

I kinda feel bad for mods

umbral lake
#

Its a mod summoning ritual

shy vine
#

Wait... we are summoning Aspect..

#

Just a moment..

#

(illegible gibberish.) Man Meat. Perfect Specimen... Poof! @amber horizon

#

Nothing yet... shit.

#

(Wake up you bastard!)

#

Moan.. something..

#

Possibly didnt slap him hard enough...

#

Anyone else felt like your holding a corpse.. chest high abouts.. shaking it to awaken? No? Just me?.... well hell.

amber horizon
#

it worked

hollow yarrow
#

Dear god.

shy vine
#

Jesus..

#

I honestly expected it to happen with a rebuke but.. with acceptance, im aghast.

amber horizon
#

I was sleeping for work

#

So now i'm here

hollow yarrow
#

Loser

amber horizon
#

Hows New World, mar?

hollow yarrow
#

Imagine working?

amber horizon
amber horizon
hollow yarrow
#

Damn.

amber horizon
#

damn...

shy vine
#

New World is possibly my new addiction

#

Didnt realize how much I needed a new MMO

#

It has its issues.. but no game goes without that. But one thing I do know, is it shows how outdated most MMO's are these days.

sacred snow
#

ok,Persona or Yakuza?

shy vine
#

Gameplay wise, it follows the basic stuff you find in your run of the mill MMO's, but it has this certain aesthetic to it that makes it feel.. fresh. I hope Amazon doesnt abandon it though.

sacred snow
#

both of them are on sale iirc

#

and i have the money

shy vine
#

I.. havent played either of those franchises.. but im sure Aspect will be able to comment on them 😛

sacred snow
#

guess i'll wait

#

on the more recent events,i bought cod cold war

shy vine
#

..eugh

#

im sorry, would have spent that on Vangarde

sacred snow
#

ehh could've been better but i really had a good time on it

#

liked the singleplayer,zombies,multiplayer once in a while

#

but nah fam,vanguard doesn't look good

#

maybe when it's 30-ish and comes with a free pass,i'll buy it but nah bad deal now

shy vine
#

Its basically MW2019 in WW2

#

way better than Cold War just from that

sacred snow
shy vine
#

Ah, fair then i guess

amber horizon
shy vine
#

HE ARRIVES

amber horizon
#

Honestly i love both series, but persona wins out

sacred snow
amber horizon
#

Its not gta

sacred snow
#

close enough

amber horizon
#

Like, aggressively not gta

shy vine
#

..im so confused how those two were even linked

amber horizon
#

You cant drive, more focus on actual fistfights

shy vine
#

GTA is.. nothing LIKE either of those games

sacred snow
#

huh,strange internet reviews really focks with you

amber horizon
shy vine
#

always..always go with first hand friends.. never game sites lol

sacred snow
shy vine
#

You were right to ask Aspect in this scenario for sure.. even as a non player of those two games

sacred snow
#

hmm,suppose i can get yakuza first,then wait for persona to get a better sale.Thanks for the advice though

amber horizon
#

Goods and bads of each: Yakuza is wierd. Like, straaange at times. The main quests are standard yakuza shit, but the side stories are actually insane.

Persona is a turn based RPG, all but Strikers atleast. The story starts with a standard "something happened, gotta go to a new town" and soon after you get roped into something much larger than yourself.

shy vine
#

If a journalist linked ANY persona game to GTA.. they are terrible at their job imo...

#

Its not even in the same type of games..

#

Its like saying Doom is like COD

#

Or BF is like Cod

#

just because i shoot shit in something.. doesnt make it the same

amber horizon
#

I also just dont like when people try to make a connection between yakuza and gta, yakuza shows that criminals are more than criminals, they are still people just playing the hand they were dealt. GTA is just... criminal has no remorse go kill ppl

sacred snow
#

@shy vine about the earlier convo,if i do want to play a milsim-ish game then what reason should i pick mw2019 over,say Insurgency Sandstorm?or Arma?

shy vine
#

Insurgency is more realistic in many ways

amber horizon
#

They have their differences

shy vine
#

Its better to compare Insurgency to Arma

amber horizon
#

Arma is large scale combat (mostly) and insurgency is smaller

sacred snow
#

fair,fair,arma doesn't make much sense to compare here

shy vine
#

Its hard to be fair with shooters

amber horizon
#

If you want something similar to mw2019, go with insurgency. If you want to go with something muuuch larger, arma.

shy vine
#

it gets.. complicated

amber horizon
#

Arma is also much harder to learn

shy vine
#

Got to break down technical aspects and such with games with those

#

indeed, Arma is a beast for new comers

sacred snow
#

thing is,cold war as a Call of Duty game,to me is miles ahead of mw2019,and i'm not convinced to buy mw2019 when i already have insurgency

#

and i want to buy a CoD game,not a slightly worse insurgency but better graphics

shy vine
#

Now if you compared Cold War with say.. CoD 2 or even MW original... sure

#

same engine, same pace, same capabilities.. it fits

#

its what it was designed for

#

MW2019 was its own thing

sacred snow
#

lemme guess:sweats,bugs,sbmm... ruined it

shy vine
#

acutally surprisingly the bugs were almost non exisitant

#

games back then were way better maintained

amber horizon
#

When i played 2019 it was smoooth

shy vine
#

less complicated too

#

2019 was a new beast

#

a fun beast

sacred snow
amber horizon
#

And they promptly threw it in the trash

shy vine
#

Yearly release bs ruined it potential

amber horizon
shy vine
#

MW2019 could have been the backbone to many great future titles

amber horizon
#

But then they said "games over, but cw or leave"

sacred snow
amber horizon
#

So i left

amber horizon
shy vine
#

Here is the kicker.. Cold War was the old Id engine

#

which I grew up on so true it was fun as hell

sacred snow
shy vine
#

but god its outdated

#

true, they seen a possibility and tried to go for it

#

cant blame em at all for it

#

but after MW2019... its hard to go back from that

#

it added a lot of QoL features alone that made it appealing

sacred snow
# amber horizon maybe your computer is bad

i'm sure my current system exceeds the minimum requirement and can run well on at least lowest graphic and not 30 fps,plus the fact i have to fuck around with the files just to move the vram cap

shy vine
#

Whats your system? if you dont mind me asking

amber horizon
#

Exceeds minimum is... lmao

#

Its the minimum to run not minimum to feel nice

sacred snow
#

r5 4800h,1650ti,8gbs ram(yes i know it's crappy but i ran warzone at a 40-ish,so how tf did it got worse on mw?)

shy vine
#

Oi thats nothing to scoff at

amber horizon
#

get more ram

shy vine
#

but yes more ram would help

random skiff
amber horizon
#

that ram is likely your bottleneck

shy vine
#

lol

#

Mornin Rivens

#

Most likely

random skiff
#

hey Mar div2wave

amber horizon
#

henlo

random skiff
#

hey Aspy' div2wave

shy vine
#

felt like forever since i said hello to you! XD

sacred snow
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wish i could,since all the computer stores in my city is under lockdown or skyrocket the price to the point of reaching the moon faster than the Soviets.
also sup Rivens

shy vine
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Mind if I ask what country you reside in?

random skiff
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same lol, that's probably a bit on me, been coming here less lately.

sacred snow
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Vietnam,country of rice

shy vine
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Probably told me before but..

random skiff
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hey Thanh div2wave

shy vine
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ah, yeah i remember now

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Same btw Rivens, im stalking/lerking more now than usual.

sacred snow
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so system wise,ok it might be my fault.
but gameplay wise,god it was horrendous.campers everywhere,claymores,weird ass maps.though the rip off battlefield mode is kinda cool

shy vine
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Not your fault no worries, computer hardware as well as games update roughly drastically every 6 to 9 months so.. sometimes its hard to keep up

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Im on a 3 gen old GPU myself so I can understand the struggle.

sacred snow
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don't even get started on the sweats,i might have missed the lowest points of cold war but the current state is way better than mw in terms of matchmaking

shy vine
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Fuck sweats

sacred snow
shy vine
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Well.. admitidly.. its a 1080TI...

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it holds up to todays games

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barely..

sacred snow
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4800h is the laptop version

shy vine
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If it wasnt for its stupid hjgh ram id be fucked

sacred snow
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it's a real thing,but you know,laptops

shy vine
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Indeed

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Not a 4k

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It sturggles hard on modern games

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30 to 40 fps is average for this gpu

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on max of course

hollow yarrow
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I heard Insurgency and came as slow as I could

shy vine
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Ay Insurgency is a god send man

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That series is so welcomed

hollow yarrow
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Insurgency Sandstorm doubles on that

sacred snow
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saved me 30 bucks

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and a certified masterpiece

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though it is depressing to think that ISMC has more content,and it's a mod

shy vine
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1080 TI is a HELL of a card for sure Thane.. but at anything ABOVE 1440p.. expect 30fps caps for your stuff. Modern games i mean of course

sacred snow
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i would but nah,not yet

hollow yarrow
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i7-87 something H is my professor

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Or was it 78

sacred snow
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besides what am i gonna do?rip the processor from the motherboard?

sacred snow
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on a laptop?

hollow yarrow
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Yes.

shy vine
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Laptop anything limits alot

sacred snow
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im pretty sure it's molded into the motherboard

hollow yarrow
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Thermal throttled to shit

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Replacing my laptop with a PC this Christmas maybe

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Might just get a 1660ti or something

shy vine
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When i did my college courses in Computer animation (give you an example) I had a Macbook 2015.. brand new fully loaded RX whatever for that year.. it STRUGGLED hard in creation.. so in gaming it was even worse.

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Laptops are HARD to keep current unless you upgrade every 2 or 3 years

sacred snow
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macbook is a good way to scream out in an animations class "i just got scammed"

shy vine
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Indeed!

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Industry standard

hollow yarrow
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Yeah my mom fell into that hole

shy vine
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fuckers are so ripped off its sad

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I requested ALL my software keys transfered to Windows 10 so I could use this PC for it

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I could give you countless scenarios of how bad it was

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Mac had a good idea but damn.. the price was not worth it

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Jobs would be rolling in his grave

sacred snow
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i mean,you're in a gaming discord server so i guess you do play video games.
if you do play video games why would you even go for a macbook in the first place?

shy vine
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College provided

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again.. industry standard

sacred snow
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your college provided WHAT?

shy vine
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yeah

sacred snow
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damm they do have a big pocket

shy vine
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a fully loaded (at the time) 2015 mid laptop

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Retina display.. all that fancy bs

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It was a joke

sacred snow
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but they really need someone with basic knowledge in laptops

hollow yarrow
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Tech supporrt

shy vine
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Now Full Sail offers Win10 laptops instead

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amazing how 6 years change things huh

sacred snow
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macbook are like skin bundles in CoD:overpriced,not all are great

shy vine
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MacBooks will always be forever overpriced.

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Once Jobs died, that brand died