td2-general-chat

[wide condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR7SYfQrwCo this is what people do

[autumn furnace]

only works on 10...since its always the same bossroom...with...correct a closed tdoor

[hybrid ore]

Weird.

[wide condor]

around 40s per floor, maybe a bit faster, and probably skip if black tusk dogs (wipe reset)

[autumn furnace]

exactly...made 520 shd since tuesday with floor 10 grind

+exo components to max

you can even do all the summit challenges

[hybrid ore]

I never understood the issue people have with BT dogs.
they're really easy to deal with.

[autumn furnace]

once done...just pass lead to someone else...leave grp....reset progress at lobby elevator...join back to grp

[wide condor]

last night was watching a guy doing 100 floor 10 clears, and they were skipping when dogs where there, they did clear it once but was slower than just clearing everything almost instantly (then there's also a thing where mobs can spawn wrong door/location if you look the wrong direction)

[autumn furnace]

doggos roam around

[hybrid ore]

I can't think of a worse way to play div2 than mindlessly farming the same room over and over again.

I would just stop.

[wide condor]

and if you look at their direction the spawns are from that direction

[obtuse sequoia]

guys i accidentally deconstructed my cayotes mask and i wad wondering if inaya will restock the cayote blueprint?

[wide condor]

and yeah i personlly couldnt do this, i dont want to fry my brain

[autumn furnace]

.......farming theo parnell holos for 2h now

will be expertise 22+

[hybrid ore]

Okay, that's a worse way.

[wide condor]

theo tells me i'm the bad guy so i wont go there xD

[hybrid ore]

You always own the Coyotes Blueprint, you've just got to farm out a new Mask.
Targeted Loot: [Mask] +Directives, Challenging or above.

[copper oar]

How does one change voice dialogue language options? Going into settings in-game all I see is English.

[autumn furnace]

you need to download other language packages i think

japanese sound brutal

[wide condor]

the blueprint for mask is for reroll purposes really, not to make a new one, as you need the mask for the bp itself

[copper oar]

Hmm, maybe ill do that. I was thinking of trying French lol...

[autumn furnace]

so....RETREAT ?

[copper oar]

[wide condor]

call it backwards recon xD

[copper oar]

lol

[wide condor]

on the ubisoft launcher in game properties there is a desired language option, i presume this changes it

[obtuse sequoia]

gotcha thanks ^

[wide condor]

also might be good to mark items you dont want to deconstruct as favorite so you cant mark/hold tab to deconstruct

[obtuse sequoia]

do i need to get it only in Jefferson trade center?

[copper oar]

Yep that is correct. It's interesting to play in French Audio. Different experience of sorts

[autumn furnace]

no , masks targeted loot in open world or summit

[obtuse sequoia]

sweet

[hybrid ore]

or Countdown, highly recommend Countdown for farming now.

has selectable TL same as summit.

[wide condor]

you can do jtc farming, but lol just 1 boss, so its very slow

[azure lintel]

Lowest settings possible?
some parts in the map make my FPS go below 60 to 40-50

[tight ermine]

Real SHD agents grind Jefferson for Coyote. Everyone else is a JTF greenhorn.

[autumn furnace]

wasnt JTC merciless grind hot spot back in the day too^^

[tight ermine]

Lower your resolution to 1080. Also reduce your object detail to around 60, lower reflection quality, and lower volumetric fog.
Those are typically what eat away the most at your GPU. And if you haven't already, also enable Vsync.

If that doesn't help, your game is fucked or you need a better GPU.

[azure lintel]

but i don't wanna enable fullscreen

makes my game take longer to open or tab out

[tight ermine]

Yeah? Too bad then. That's how resolution works. The more pixels on your screen the harder it is on your GPU. Downscaling it is the only way to lessen the load.

Try lowering render resolution if anything.

Or get a second monitor. You're gonna have to make a sacrifice somewhere.

[azure lintel]

;-;
gonna try those settings you just told me, and test if resolution thing works, i don't think it's like other games-

[tight ermine]

Only way not to compromise on settings for FPS is to have money, and buy the good shit you need.

[tight ermine]

Buddy, it's the same across every game. That's how resolution works at its core. You're literally doubling the workload every single time on a GPU the higher you set the resolution.
Division 2 is a game with a lot of details and complex geometry. It's a given that it would be harsh on your GPU than most other games.

[wide condor]

worst part of gpu/cpu load here is when you go outside of dc base near the heli towards ny (vegitation+red flare does quite a bit)

[obtuse sequoia]

gotcha ty

[wraith current]

When is the next patch rolling out?

awesome thank you

[tight ermine]

Obviously the older the game, the better it will run. It's an older game with less complex geometry and less lighting/reflection technology. And it's just overall less for your GPU to do.
But increasing resolution, regardless how old the game is, will always have a slight drop in performance. A drop that can get exponentially worse.

[autumn furnace]

sry...i think some stuff gets patch on tuesday ,...but might be wrong

[azure lintel]

Hang the f*ck on, what is reduce latency?

i disabled it and my FPS go over 60 now

[wraith current]

its good. I'm just wondering when any patch is coming. nothing specific really. thank you

[tight ermine]

Reduced input latency, right? It's basically the amount of time your monitor allows the GPU to load the next frame, I think.

I explained it better a while back, hold on.

Input latency is basically how quickly the GPU is "allowed" to generate and send the next frame to your monitor.
Having reduced latency essentially tells the GPU "Alright, bring em fast". Disabling it is kind of the same as having double or triple buffering enabled. Which basically tells the GPU "slow down on frame generation".
If you cap your FPS to x number, It'll still generate that many frames, but it'll do so slower. This is why having latency reduced as much as possible is something pro competitive FPS games recommend.
Now this game is hardly considered a competitive shooter. Like I said, you're welcome to keep it enabled in PvP if you like. But if not, that's fine too. It's barely noticeable, but not a large impact.
^ That.

[lean inlet]

Heyo

[potent chasm]

Howdy

[azure lintel]

You can just decrease the rendering resolution while keeping borderless

[velvet cedar]

Yooo

[agile hatch]

does raid key reset on the time you last clear, or on start of the week?

[rough mango]

If you have completed a raid for the first time of the week, you have to wait till next week for the key's to spawn

also doe's anyone know where I could buy a replica of a hunter mask?

[potent chasm]

Learned what happened to Heather Lau

Oh wait, I just learned something from the faye lau manhunt collectibles

[azure lintel]

Is the only way to do the polarity shock, the shock ammo?

We have shock nades?

[potent chasm]

Just realized those are EMP nades, apologies

[azure lintel]

Firewall cluster, gunner foam, tech EMP, demo bleed, survivalist fire, sharp blind

tech emp?

[potent chasm]

I had a brainfart, sorry about that

[azure lintel]

Struggling to get it done

For shock we have shock trap, shock ammo, Scorpio, BT medic defibs and one of the warhounds

Might be more, can't remember atm

[potent chasm]

TS medic

[azure lintel]

I suggest you look up the location of shock ammo online, since they have fixed locations

Most of the ones I found online were 2 years old

[fleet pewter]

By the way is the go-bag worth using in any loadouts? Maybe some kind of EMP spam build?

Mixed with a drone or something

[azure lintel]

It's nice for prolonging overcharge after FP

[reef reef]

Not really. If you want damage, Waveform is better generally, if you need overcharge there are weapon talents that do it. Plus overcharge is not the greatest, straight up damage is preferred

[azure lintel]

And also the one way you have of using overcharge on hunters without a hive

[fleet pewter]

Would it be good for anything that relies on some kind of status effect?

Like a stinger hive with a bleed weapon and frags?

And frags have a longer range

[reef reef]

Vile is better for status effects. Theres not really anything the go-bag does that another exo does better.

[fleet pewter]

Makes sense

[azure lintel]

yall think i will be able to finish the season pass? im currently at level 16, i should have enough time tbh

[primal willow]

even though ..i have not found the Snitch for a Mendosa vendor in my session...it just shows...after i have got out of the session the one that have found it...is it how it is..

[ripe bronze]

do all SHD caches show up on map now

[primal willow]

yup...once u've retrieved them ..it wont

[ripe bronze]

some districts say theres 5 in the zone but 3 marked

[velvet inlet]

Which one is better to farm for exotics summit or countdown

[autumn furnace]

summit

[ripe bronze]

best way to farm ceramics is countdown on gearset focus right?

[autumn furnace]

yeah

[velvet inlet]

Ok thx

[merry wigeon]

hello : D

[drifting vine]

is there a way to hide certain pieces of gear, like knee pads or gloves?

[fair lake]

Some apparel items can fully cover your kneepads

[drifting vine]

Yeah that was the only thign I could find. Maan this game really lacks in the fashion compartment!

You'd think in these mtx times they go crazy with buyable stuff taht isnt p2w

[copper oar]

Honestly, I wish the Specialization Weapon can be hidden. I rarely use that weapon.

[drifting vine]

oh my god yes babe

I want a much more minimal total frame of my character. I gotta hand it to the dev team, they gave a lot of armour options, which is rearely seen in games imo, it reminds me of the old rainbow six coop shooter.
but I also want some more slim setups, ora more civilian style. let me run around with a remington and a 1886 with denims and a leather jacket without being super kitted.. jsut for the appeaarance yknow

https://imgur.com/KpHZgb3 This is the best I can do, Im trying to unlock firewatch now, but the next specialization will be somethign with a smaller size weapon lol

let me unequip the spec weapon or my secondary rifle lol

[copper oar]

I think a while, while back, Massive was going to touch more basis on Character Customisation but nothing has really come about. I wish they can put more focus on Character Customisation because right now it is lacking.

I also wish that, clothing colours could be changed. Like how you can change the dye on weapon skins and gear sets.

[drifting vine]

exactly! I mean, I hate the battlefield V approach of having to collect 5 different parts of a skin to get to change colour on it, but the div2 system doesnt feel super unfair, and recolours are so simple to make. I understand comepltely new items need to be made without clipping through stuff and function in a lot of animations, but simple colour rematching would be sooo good!

here's the back of my character, I don't know if there's a smaller backpack or something, this is the best i could find so far https://imgur.com/I4CyKYw

but the game/egine is probably not made in a way to quickly make variations of the same item, so they'd have to do a new texture on another model.. or i hope not but youy never know lol.
"just rewrite ur game engine to handle more fashun devs!"

[copper oar]

Overall tho, the Character Customization area needs improvement. They touched basis on everything else but it seems Character Customization gets hardly any love or focus. Here is a small list of what I wish to see.

• Option to change character details (how you adjust before creating your character)
• More hair options
• Ability to change clothing colours
• Sling Backpacks (like how Rogue Agents have)
• Others.

[random kraken]

Just now found out you can always show your gas mask after 2 Years

[hybrid ore]

Yeah it's a semi-recent change.

[drifting vine]

Great list. Yeah I always feel hair is lacking in most games, though some more than others. It's frustrating to ahve "sliders" and then they only adjust the face or body like 2% in either direction. I odnt need dark souls level of customization so we can create shrek abominations, but y'know.

damn saber, welcome to the club, I just found out the added a "always show mask" in gear options!

[random kraken]

It's lowkey hidden

[drifting vine]

ohhaha totalyl misread your messaeg Saber. thought it said "change mask apperance"

[random kraken]

Had to go into the Settings

The DZ drops with 4 named enemies hurt my soul

[hard bluff]

I remember seeing some graphic of the expertise level somekind of
lvl 1 = 100 rank
Lvl2 = 100 rank
Lvl 3 = 200 rank

Can somebody post that graphic again?

[random kraken]

Killed 3 out of 4 and the drop blew up in my face 😔

[azure lintel]

How do you cap a control point without shooting opposite polarities? Is that just making sure you shoot the right polarity?

Yep

[drifting vine]

you can make it easier for yourself by switching to a single fire weapon and position yourself to avoid enfilading fire

https://imgur.com/ssQgUzr Also, this holster is awesome, but the pistol is so misaligned 😦

[azure lintel]

The capture radius, is that just the red perimeter that says captured by x?

Aye

I believe skills don't count as shooting the wrong polarity, so you could pop a tier 6 drone on their asses

[simple marsh]

Is there a more reliable way of getting the 7.62 extended mag than just wading through CPs?

[keen osprey]

Don't think there is

Thats how I got all mine way back - tedious. Very.

[merry wigeon]

w8 am i the youngest here or not

[simple marsh]

Given you actually asked that question, my wager will be yes. 😛

[merry wigeon]

damn

no wonder im 16 XD

[keen osprey]

16 is an average age for discord, but for the division - not so much.

[simple marsh]

I'm old enough to have gray hair 😮

[keen osprey]

I play primarily with a 61 year old so you get the general consensus

[merry wigeon]

wtf 61?!

[fair lake]

why not?

[keen osprey]

Yep, has more hours in the game than I do

You should watch the documentary Redbull gaming did on the two old guys that met via division 2

https://youtu.be/L0oyCV2keew

Here it is, very interesting and under appreciated as a documentary

[drifting vine]

Ayy same. Have had long hair for a couple of years, then had two kids and after getting my hair cut in a short style they grey hairs are just so noticable all of a sudden

[keen osprey]

Call them silver and you'll never care

[drifting vine]

nice link dazza, never see nthat before

[azure lintel]

When people speak of age, I remember I'm already at the age people are having children

[drifting vine]

To be honest, they dont bother me. It's just a part of getting odler so whatever, Never seen anyone with grey hairs and thought "oh my god no"

[azure lintel]

Feels like I didn't really "grow up" as it was expected of me

[drifting vine]

*d i s t i n g u i s h e d *

[keen osprey]

I remember watching it when it came out, couldn't believe anyone that age would have the patience to play or understand any game let alone division 2.

[drifting vine]

dont know how old you are but, people get pregnant by choice from 18 years old and till they almost cant have children anymore, so there's a huge span of "everyone is getting kids but not me"

[keen osprey]

But let me guess - full set of black hair, a beard and all tatted up in game? Nothing like your real life self. Lol

👁👅👁 old bachelor here. Can't relate

[drifting vine]

haha that's why games are nice, I can roleplay whatever, and that's why options are so nice. let everyone get a chance to find themselves in game, if that's by clown outfits, skin color, weapon attachments or emotes. let the good vibes fly

I think there's two kinds of players, the ones who wants to mimic themselves ingame and others who wants to be everything but themselves

Personally I am in the latter category, gotta try al lthe stuff I can't irl 😛

[keen osprey]

I always laughed about how they had all these details in games and expression but you couldn't:

A) be fat
B) have a double chin
C) stress lines
D) Noticeable fatigue
D) wrinkled or creased clothing

not a contrast of myself lol

[drifting vine]

hehe ,let me go full.. eh what's the name of that huge slimy dude in mad max :P?

[keen osprey]

Haha, I'm getting chumbucket vibes if anything

[azure lintel]

Any skills count as grenades?

[keen osprey]

Ermmm no but you can use spec weapon depending on what you're after

[azure lintel]

sticky bomb explosive?

[keen osprey]

Not a grenade though

[vale grove]

anyone know why the bosses drop 0 loot whilst floor 10 farming on legendary

[azure lintel]

Grenades are specifically the throwable grenades the player has

[fair lake]

If you die after clearing - you won't get any loot.
If you kill the boss, steal loot and return to lobby without killing all mobs - you will get boss loot

[vale grove]

roger

[merry wigeon]

i reached level 20 yesterday, is there any tips that i can use

still new to the game

[drifting vine]

Dont focus too much on gear, jsut try out a lot of different weapons to see which you like

[jolly kettle]

Hello anyone got some info about fairview crew, what its all about? What are the tasks?

[drifting vine]

oh, adn do go out of your way to collect the shd tech caches, there's some seriously quality of life in those

[merry wigeon]

bet

[nova tulip]

I feel like I am missing something, on the Ps5 version, how come the onscreen keyboard isn't showing up? changed the settings and tap down on the dpad.

[earnest hornet]

Just a general question but are distant headshots bugged or am I missing something? So I tried the Mantis couple weeks ago in open world and aside from my only half-good aiming I had the feeling that multiple times I indeed did a headshot but it dealt no damage. Now I wanted to try the Nemesis, but went to the shooting range first and it happens again. https://i.imgur.com/3FPxLXa.png (Didn't hit the center but still..) https://i.imgur.com/KCdYir3.png (Right into the center, yet again no damage).

[azure lintel]

Headshots feel weird to me and I often ask myself it the game works with a really fast projectile or something

I also had a case in Killing Floor 2 where the game outright lied about bullets with the tracers due to the tracers actually tricking the player (me, the idiot) into thinking all guns were projectile-based when most were hitscan

It was bad enough that the shot reached the enemy before the visual tracer

[muted rapids]

to be honest, now that countdown offers a permanent method of obtaining named item caches it’s better to get legacy season caches in the global event vendor

cause it gives system corruption which cant be farmed in LZ

[fervent berry]

optimization cache: "am i a joke to you?"

Each to their own, I suppose. I'm still farming named caches from GE vendor because I just want that named BP for perfect vigilance 😂

[muted rapids]

Countdown also exists

But yes playing 15 min for 4-5 SHD calibration isn’t exactly as ideal as spamming caches for like a lot

I do personally need Sys Corr for a DZ build so there’s that

[vestal lake]

i need help ima kinda like a returning player to d2 i have already finished the new york story and i would say i have hit end game maybe anyway what do i start doing now

[muted rapids]

1. Countdown 2. Summit

[vestal lake]

ive been doing summit for the hell of it

[celest harbor]

@fervent berry why do you need gift tho?

[muted rapids]

Countdown for shit tons of loot, Summit for XP

[vestal lake]

ah okay

[muted rapids]

That extra second might just help with DPS

[fervent berry]

well, that. and bragging rights

there's something about owning named gear that speaks "this guy"

either this guy is good, or he's just damn lucky

[celest harbor]

I have few of those from dz, yet i can't fit them into any of my builds lol

[muted rapids]

Red build

[celest harbor]

I just dont see that 1 second being that important

[muted rapids]

1 second of losing DPS

[celest harbor]

Ceska or grupo provides more benefits

[fervent berry]

It really does make a difference especially in heroic or legendary content

If you get downed while your reviver hive is one second away from finishing cool down... ooff

[muted rapids]

when u get hit and need to magdump on someone perfect gets your 25 back up one second faster

which turns into being able to mag dump on them in one mag vs 2 mags

[celest harbor]

If you're getting hit constantly and relying on that 1 second, i think that gift wont help much lol

[muted rapids]

Well this is a cover based shooter

[fervent berry]

I use it on my rifle crit build and I don't need to facetank when playing carefully. It does switch your brain into playing carefully since you get 2-shotted with only 700k armor

[celest harbor]

Run shields or bonus armor to help keeping that vigilance up

[fervent berry]

It takes some getting used to, something I'm not comfy while using PGC though

[celest harbor]

The only build where i would see benefit is mantis builds

But that's because of Providence brand lol

[fervent berry]

But headshots though. That's the skill

Me, I'm just lazy. I just spray bullets from cover with 60 / 187 hoping it's enough to carry me all the way 😂

That said, I don't think I've seen The Gift recommended in any HB build since you'd wanna go for Ceska BP + vigilance instead

[keen osprey]

Sounds about right

[celest harbor]

That's correct

[vestal lake]

where do i go to do the countdown

[azure lintel]

should be on the top of the map

under the summit

[vestal lake]

thx

[naive topaz]

Is there any way to farm a specific loot when it's not in the targeted loot map's rotation?

[muted rapids]

if you are level 30, no
If you are level 40, countdown or summit

[naive topaz]

Aight, ty

[muted rapids]

Thank you for reminding me to farm GE

I still need a sys corr glove

Legacy Season Cache

yes but it’s the only LZ way to get it

It’s too rare, plus even if it’s DZ targeted everyone would just swarm there = rogue

Even if I go rogue I don't take their loot because I'm nice

Just in it for the kill, no loot stealing

true

I'll always take ninjabikes and pestilences tho

[fervent berry]

I found this quite wholesome

Any other rogue just decimates you for fun and that's about it 😂

[muted rapids]

Still trying to get a Yaahl backpack

and sys corr gloves so I can run crit mods

Contractors, I see

I do need the pulse res tho

Interesting

With sys corr pack or chest?

What does it do?

ooh

[coarse lagoon]

I love dz farming

Pve ppl farm land mark

[muted rapids]

So I assume Fenris chest, what talent?

[coarse lagoon]

I farm them at extraction

[muted rapids]

Why

[coarse lagoon]

Why not？ it’s efficiency . Don’t come to the dz if you are not ready to part with your goods

[muted rapids]

I love and hate the DZ precisely for this

but I have an issue with DZ loot

Why the fuck are the rolls like on challenging tier and why are rainbows so damn common

(And why. is. there. purple. loot.)

DZ labels itself as high risk high reward

[fervent berry]

Exactly like you said it: high risk, high reward
Even if that system is completely based off RNG

Does global difficulty actually affect loot in the DZ?

[muted rapids]

oh yeah I've been meaning to ask, how common is a targeted loot named item

Cuz I farmed a unnecessarily length to get a horrendously rolled The Gift in prov targeted when it was available

[muted rapids]

why does the agent use the watch to hack into the landmark caches

[robust breach]

Anyone know how to check if I have completed a raid on this character?

[muted rapids]

if the weekly says you still have weekly loot available you didn't finish it

[fervent berry]

Ah, story of my life 😂

[rugged hatch]

Does the Artificier hive still heal your shield from your back or does it have to be dropped now?

[celest harbor]

It heals passively, but deployed heals faster

[prisma dove]

the shield has to be active

[rugged hatch]

Bleh guess I'll find another tank build.

[prisma dove]

pretty sure
it doesn't heal faster on the ground
you just need it equiped

[celest harbor]

Test it

[prisma dove]

can't now

[plush otter]

its a 10 second duration, both deployed or on your back

[rugged hatch]

I did test it just now, It didn't heal from my back at all and healed when I dropped it, maybe lag or maybe a bug I dunno.

[prisma dove]

you need to have your shield deployed and i think damaged for it to heal

ill open game and test soon

[woeful berry]

hello. i needed to know what is the best controller for pc to play the game to pay from amazon

[lofty ruin]

hello. i use xbox elite 2, very comfertable and long lasting

[woeful berry]

thanks

[rugged hatch]

Yeah I had the shield opened, but it didn't heal until I dropped the hive, but I delta'd so it might have been because of that.

Hmm, I didn't see a speed difference in healing between dropped and not dropped, but it does heal from my back, I had a bad connection it seems.

[fervent berry]

Serious question. Why is Washington DC showing on the top part of NY's map, when it's geographically south of the city?

This query really doesn't matter, but it bugs me since I noticed it

Food for thought 😂

[rugged hatch]

lol

[autumn furnace]

......Thanks a lot....now i gotta live with this !!!!!

[rugged hatch]

"Agent is distress" after reading it.

[fervent berry]

ikr, it's insane

[woeful ether]

is anyone lagging right now ? me and 3 of my clan members playing in group and its cutting off a lot , any ideas what could that be ?

[autumn furnace]

certain missions and parts of the open world tend to lag a lot

[sudden forge]

Question, the 1% armor gain from expertise per level, is that base armor only or does it increase with blue cores?

[molten spire]

Base armor

[autumn furnace]

its 1% of the base armor....so its not really much ...wouldnt increase rank on armor...just a waste of rss

btw what happened to the exotic gloves from the pts phase 2

[rugged hatch]

You get a mediocre amount of armor from that bonus, and mediocre is being generous.

It should honestly just be replaced with something that's actually useful.

I feel like some of the enemies in this game were soccer players, cause even if you don't shoot them in the leg, they grab their leg anyway.

[autumn furnace]

maybe a torn muscle ?

[oblique chasm]

or cramp

[fervent berry]

Somewhere, somehow, that fish from SpongeBob is yelling "My leg!"

[autumn furnace]

....there are many fish at spongebobs^^

Anyone else wondering why we got so many childrens clothes in our backpacks.....thats kinda creepy

[leaden tendon]

drip

[bitter sandal]

this cannot be all there was to the update it took em years to release...
XP grinding... thats it?

[rich shadow]

You think the devs spent the entire time working in this update?

[bitter sandal]

what else were they doing sniffing glue?

isnt it a brand new dev team specifically for Division 2?

[rough shoal]

that was fn for my first raid

is DH the oen that gives eagle bearer?

[rich shadow]

You're naive at best, to think that's what happens behind closed doors of a business like ubisoft

[autumn furnace]

yep

[rough shoal]

tyty found out about this discored and was told a lot of peopel help with raids

[fervent berry]

Yeah I think there's lots of folks who can help with raids. Just head over to the LFG channel if you want to ask around

[rough shoal]

yea its cool glad i found this place i just completed my first run

[dull blaze]

LOOOOL rollback incoming

Gg to those ppl cheesing to lvl 30

[autumn furnace]

?

[dull blaze]

Look at the division twitter

[west oasis]

I did twitch drops last night, but the drops arent showing up in game, i made sure to claim them.
Is there any steps im missing?

[keen osprey]

Jesus, I hope this only affects players above 20?

https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1531304570189758465?t=5BQmnTQIkXM6I_wCnIxvnw&s=19

[dull blaze]

I was kinda expecting this so didnt go higher than 20 myself

[dark kraken]

probably?
it might re-adjust any progress that you made off of kill xp, even if you didn't make it to 20

[keen osprey]

Agents,

We have identified an issue with the Twitch Drops and are working to resolve it.

You can claim the Twitch Drops until the end of May, and shortly hereafter we will grant your account the items.

Apologies for the inconvenience!

[dark kraken]

but i suspect the easier route was to single out the subset of players that shot past 20 and re-adjust their expertise levels

[autumn furnace]

christ......this will be harsh

[keen osprey]

Im only on 14, no amount of compensation will make me thank them for enduring the gear set grind on Countdown

[dark kraken]

i think, for people that didn't hit 20 before this got announced, it doesn't really matter

[autumn furnace]

i doubt the compensation will be near the rss we already spend

[autumn furnace]

lets hope so

[dark kraken]

i'm not overly concerned for myself; i'm only at expertise level 4, anyway, so getting bumped down to, like, 3 will make very little difference to me

[dark kraken]

they did literally say in the announcement that they have no in-game data for resources spent on expertise upgrades, so discrepancies are to be expected

[west oasis]

So the drops wont show up in my account until after the campaign is over?

[autumn furnace]

its just 1 exo cache

[zinc minnow]

for the friend referral thing i should join my friend right?

as the veteran

[keen osprey]

It has been an absolute bastard of a ball ache, pardon my French - with upgrading weapons. Grinding those materials was no easy task, somewhat enjoyable but I don't want to do that all again. The wall of text seems to indicate that this will affect most players who played during the season. This is worse than that time people got rolled back for a damage glitch, and everyone absolutely lost their shit with that one. 💀

Trying to see where the positive lies with this one(?)

[autumn furnace]

and player counts dropped by 60%

after the rollback and 2 week ban....

[lone valve]

I heavily doubt any bans will be handed for this whatsoever
I'd stop playing too if I got banned
Now here's the thing
Anyone that somehow upgraded their exotics past lvl 25
All those exotic components... Are now gone

[dull blaze]

Pretty funny tho cus apart from the weapon upgrades it doesnt really affect the game much anyways

The armour upgrades aint worth the materials

[autumn furnace]

i doubt there will be bans...but players wont login anymore with progress lost like this.....everyone who got20+ ...fine....they should just be downgraded to 20 with no compensation

[lone valve]

Some skill upgrades are worth it

Idk about spec weapons upgrades cuz I haven't even bothered

[autumn furnace]

oxidizer...drone+turret

the +% is pretty nice

[lone valve]

Banshee pulse upgrade good too iirc

[severe bane]

Are they rolling back every player or just the people above 20

[lone valve]

I'd assume above 20
They are rolling back wym

It literally says
"Rollback to the level they should be at"
So anyone above 20 goes to the actual cap
Aka 20

[pale gulch]

You can't be rolled back from a point you shouldn't be at. ;)

[dark kraken]

yeah, people just wanted to have their cake and eat it too

[lone valve]

The donate junk less XP calculation being fixed is a welcomed one
I've been mostly donating so far

[keen osprey]

"This will impact most players"

That's key. ^^^

Not everyone was remotely near 20 let alone 23 or even 30!!

I assume you ignored the first half of the second paragraph.

[autumn furnace]

doubt it will be that way.....if they could point that out ...who gained what and how....they also would be able to pinpoint any donated material to to exact amount

''Lack of in game Data discrepencies'' my ass

[low lily]

🤣

[civic arrow]

bullshit its slow enough as it is

[keen osprey]

This will impact most players active during Season 9 and will bring their expertise level back to the level they should be at

Im 117/344 proficient on level 14. That's about a third of the way through, there's absolutely no way it WONT be adjusted for everyone even if it's a minor adjustment or a big one. No matter, we probably will all be affected.

[civic arrow]

why the refunds if faster?

[autumn furnace]

same here....upgraded exos like EB Ravenous Regulus Diamondback Capacitor Bighorn Scorpio to exp 14......christ...

[dark kraken]

i mean, if i were massive, i wouldn't bother tracking that level of detail for each player
too much data to have to be stored for a dataset that wasn't anticipated to be that important

[keen osprey]

The hard coded values of this isn't really looking at your expertise level, it's the overall amount of profiency xp you have, some were only half way through having items proficient when they reached 23 27 or 30. Even if you're only on say level 10 right now, if you do the calculations at some point you'd end up over the cap of 20 which means it would affect most if not all players.

[fervent berry]

Shout-out to the two who left me at DARPA mission's final boss fight on Heroic. Very cool stuff

[autumn furnace]

all that data is stored...otherwise a Rollback like when the dmg glitch happened wouldnt be possible.....that was a complete reset of progression of 14 days

[keen osprey]

😆 "Mortars Now"

🥵 "I need Medics"

💀 "Agent Deceased"

[dark kraken]

i mean, if they didn't think it needed to be tracked (which they didn't, because they ostensibly didn't anticipate this to happen), they wouldn't have tracked it

[fervent berry]

[dark kraken]

it's also such a minor detail to track, "how many materials you've donated"

if this miscalculation hadn't happened, nobody would care about it

[autumn furnace]

like always.....pvp is the only part of the game, where it makes a difference.....so why not exclude expertise from pvp zones...and done^^

[dark kraken]

anyway, it's a video game, at the end of the day
all of these materials are electrons in computer storage; it's not as if the IRS mis-calculated how much money they gave back to you on your tax returns

[autumn furnace]

''cRyPtOCurrEncY''

[keen osprey]

They miscalculated the audacity is what they've done.

[dark kraken]

lmao what gave you the idea that i'm in any way a crypto bro

non sequitur much

[autumn furnace]

i want my 200+ salvaged Chameleons back^^

[keen osprey]

God it feels awful being disappointed in this game, its NOT like me. I need a break lol. I'm normally here trying to pacify others and lightening the blow, just can't do it this time. Sorry not sorry

[dark kraken]

you'll live

[autumn furnace]

in agony....yes^^

[dark kraken]

if you're taking this that seriously, you should probably go outside and do something else

[keen osprey]

People invest pastime into these games :)

[autumn furnace]

I see this patch as a free Content update^^ ...We can do it all over again^^

[dark kraken]

video games are not worth this amount of investment of your self-worth into

[keen osprey]

Most would say that they don't deserve a player base but here we are. It's not something a player should need to worry about when sitting down to play a game.

[azure lintel]

it's not something i worried about either way

[keen osprey]

"Oh I'm not gonna play more than a few hours this season just incase something mysterious happens and we lose progress" - said no one ever.

[autumn furnace]

that should be Massives slogan^^

[azure lintel]

lmfao

[lone valve]

Nah its
Massive Disappointment

[autumn furnace]

didnt massive and Ubisoft invent the BUGDATE ?

[keen osprey]

Optimistically, is there a positive to this?

[autumn furnace]

we got to spend more hours ingame 🙂

[fervent berry]

"Ya can't please everyone" - Devs in general

[lone valve]

Who cares about expertise lol
Cleanse ur pallet with the apparel event tmrw

[autumn furnace]

hahahahha

[azure lintel]

^^^^
kinda forgot expertise was a thing

[autumn furnace]

appearal....

[dark kraken]

pretty sure people are going to forget about this whole thing in 3 weeks' time because le gasp people are going to get over it and get used to it
what a concept

[azure lintel]

hasn't affected my gameplay at all

[autumn furnace]

thats.....harsh...and True

[fervent berry]

If only they would fix the Delta issues more...

[keen osprey]

"Agents,

Fairview Crew Apparel Event has been pushed back by one week whilst we prioritise the Massive (Entertainment) Mess we have caused.

//The Division 2 Development Team"

[lone valve]

I'll forget that the King breaker and the dare aren't supposed to be the ak and stoner models in 3 weeks

[dull blaze]

U aint losing much tho?

U gonna lose mats that will get refunded slightly

[autumn furnace]

and...

[keen osprey]

Slightly.

[fervent berry]

I just want a new manhunt target and new drip bruh

[azure lintel]

i think I'm like, level 3

[dull blaze]

If you where honestly stupid enough to go past lvl 20 on gear i kinda giggle

[keen osprey]

Tbh, those who went over 20 more than likely rinsed the living daylights out of the tombs so more fool them

[autumn furnace]

that just means we gotta do DH more often to get exo components from EB drops

[lone valve]

I just want the exotic blueprints tbh
But my guess is I'll have to wait a while for them

[azure lintel]

same

[dark kraken]

or, like, what are you doing with your life and time
do you not have a job or schoolwork or something

[keen osprey]

September apparently @lone valve

[autumn furnace]

to reroll?

just optimise

[lone valve]

Oh yea I know
Probably tu16

[dull blaze]

Meh i work full time and im expertise 21 now and also don’t play past 9 pm

[azure lintel]

optimizing takes materials

[dull blaze]

Just how sweaty u play i guess

[dark kraken]

for sure

[azure lintel]

mind numbing

[dull blaze]

If u play countdown and donate everything u gonna fly up expertise lvls

[lone valve]

Nah that's very quick now
Especially with HB
Not really time consuming

Altough I cba to farm floor 10 summit tbh

[autumn furnace]

thats the spirit 🙂

[dull blaze]

I enjoy floor 10 farm tbh

[autumn furnace]

or floor 80 legendary for exos

[keen osprey]

"Countdown is a highly replayable mode"

Well they certainly got that right

< Insert that CJ San Andreas meme "ah shit here we go again" > 🤣

[lone valve]

I just do a few convoys a day and a few heroic CPs and that's it rn
Kinda waiting for them to fix the donate bug to grind countdown again

[autumn furnace]

i just dont know what to do with the Countdown points....sitting at 1500 i think

[worthy aurora]

So to max out one gun it’s 55 exotic components the only guaranteed way to get exotic component is they countdown points and buying cache. That takes me about an hour and a half for 1 that’s 3 days of playing to max one gun. Am I missing something? Is there a really good exotic farm I don’t know about?

[untold steppe]

Hold on.. is the announcement noting that expertise levels were being gained too fast or is it from an underlying issue?

[autumn furnace]

summit...or lincoln memorial

[worthy aurora]

No but to max one load out that’s 33 days

[keen osprey]

Materials cache or named item for donation is good choice if you don't need the optim materials or exotics.

[worthy aurora]

Yeah they’re rare you can’t count on them

So 33 days for one load out sounds fair?

[autumn furnace]

bought alrady 62 named caches from polarity event ....to maybe get an Orbit,,,,,but nooo

[worthy aurora]

The end game is just playing same thing on repeat for 33 days sounds fun

1.5 x 55 x 11 /24 = 33

Yeah all for 1 exotic component you need 55 per item

[keen osprey]

What's with the 33 days?

[worthy aurora]

And that’s trash end game

[unborn pollen]

yea im sorry but F d2, the crashes are becoming too extreme since they brought out tu15

[autumn furnace]

weekly shd/legendary mission ..summit caches..x4

[lone valve]

World drops aren't reliable whatsoever
I've gotten one exotic to drop since tu15 in open world
And that was a random ass memento from a convoy

[keen osprey]

I'd expect some of em to be fixed tomorrow

[autumn furnace]

woooot

[unborn pollen]

i hope so cos its unplayable atm, i shoot an enemy once and the game crashes

[autumn furnace]

i got 6 chameleons from bountys yesterday

[lone valve]

No?
Heroic 3 directives

[worthy aurora]

1.5 hours for one countdown cache x 55 for the amount needed for one item maxed x 11 for the amount of items per load out / 24 hours in a day it’s 33 days

[autumn furnace]

1.5 hours ?

[worthy aurora]

But go ahead say that’s reasonable if you like repeating same thing over and over and call it “end game”

[autumn furnace]

how much was an exo cache once again ?

[worthy aurora]

1.5 hours amount of time to get enough points to buy cache

[keen osprey]

I upgraded my Sweet dreams and all it took was 3.141592653589793238 days

[autumn furnace]

its 64 point per run

[worthy aurora]

You can’t accurately calculate RNG so I went with only guaranteed way

20 mins a run

Not always 64 points either

[autumn furnace]

with random mm maybe not

[keen osprey]

So we all running 16 different pistols now👀

[tidal compass]

Hey if I play with two new players through some missions at the same time. Does it count as two players in my referral thing? The rewards are so cool

[fair lake]

So, they roll back expertise to lvl 20. Wise choice and it requires way less painful manipulations to balance everybody. Glad they did it. (Rip to all who abused this to lvl 30)

[fervent berry]

It was explicit in the past patch notes that it was only meant to be maxed at 20, right?

[autumn furnace]

for season 9 yes

[fervent berry]

Yeaaah, I don't think they read it

[fair lake]

I'm ok for expertise to be stretched later, with addition of new gearsets and weapons

I accidentally got lvl 22, because I wasn't aware of this glitch and was casually donating items and playing)

[autumn furnace]

armor pieces expertise bonus need a rework

[fair otter]

In the #td2-clan-recruitment channel there is supposed to be no extra ** or __ used but can we please use it on our console or find another option. I've noticed as a PC clan we got tons of PS and XB players which isn't a problem but we can't do anything but send them back here to find a clan for their platform? maybe separate PC from XB from PS??? just a thought.

[fair lake]

every bonus needs rework. It's too weak now

[autumn furnace]

oxidizer is pretty nice...so is turret and drone

[fair otter]

not weapons. lol they are bordering OP when you hit level 20....

[fair lake]

Well, they'll have some kind of shd calibration crates, but yeah, I got your point

[lone valve]

Armor upgrade is like garbage tier

[fair lake]

So gonna upgrade them tomorrow 🙂

[fair otter]

its based off base armor so the 80k mask vs 158k chest makes a difference.

[autumn furnace]

if 78k armor is making a difference for you.....

[fair otter]

optimize your chest and backpack first if you want extra armor. I run glass cannon for most of my dps builds (non DZ player) and I haven't optimized any armor pieces.

[fair lake]

total armor in pts 1 was way better, in terms of actual usage. Now armor isn't worth upgrading at all

[lone valve]

It's not worth it whosoever

Whatsoever

[fair otter]

yea but total armor would break DZ players

[autumn furnace]

ok...i dont pvp ..so

[lone valve]

Then upgrading gear is worthless then
Half the grind they wanted us to do
Isn't worth doing

Why would I waste mats on upgrading gear

[fair otter]

neither do I but DZ is normally where the balance issue comes in.

[lone valve]

Normalise expertise for pvp
Simple solution

[fair otter]

If DZ was yeeted from this game 90% of all nerf's would of never happened.

[autumn furnace]

and where most bugs work^^....like stacking HB on a friends holo^^

[fair otter]

exactly. its a balance issue.

[chrome peak]

anyone got summit floor 100?

or wanna do floor 100

[fair otter]

XP and loot floor 10 works better

[autumn furnace]

btw...isnt the floor 100 legendary +directives exp farm a thing anymore ?

[chrome peak]

u mean is it a thing anymore?

[autumn furnace]

sry

[fair otter]

floor 10 with 7 directive is way better on heroic. clears with a group are 2 min for 500k xp

[autumn furnace]

yeah

[autumn furnace]

+summit challenge xp

[chrome peak]

oh kl

[fair otter]

yup

[chrome peak]

thanks

[fair otter]

do as many challenges as you can and most likely get a quick 50 levels

[fair lake]

2 mins is too long)

[autumn furnace]

and floor completion rewards ( exotics) is good aswell

[chrome peak]

yh i just started division 2 bc i fw division 1

[autumn furnace]

those who got the builds for a sub 2 clear.....arent the ones looking for fast shd grind ......atleast not on ps4

[fair lake]

We clear in 35-40 sec, depends on mobs (hate warhounds)

[autumn furnace]

BT floor gets skipped^^

[fair otter]

I was referring to someone new doing it lol

[fair lake]

Still hate them :)

[fair lake]

My bad then )

[autumn furnace]

just have a full skill build use jammer....one shot

[fair otter]

all g

[chrome peak]

whats best gear for a dps build?

[azure lintel]

make your question more vague

answer is heartbreaker

[autumn furnace]

💯

[azure lintel]

i find simple convoy runs are easier

[autumn furnace]

all red sacrifice the gift build with famas fast hands and m1a

[chrome peak]

im newish to the game lowe me

[autumn furnace]

HB needs stacks to be op...basic all red built is always the way

its still raid meta

[azure lintel]

you don't run all reds now?

Huh?

Why no reds in PvE?

You can shred faster with reds?

sounds like a skill issue

[fiery cloud]

hey sanitizer

[azure lintel]

heya

[chrome peak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/885710706350116915/963850413654835320/thedoginmyhands.gif

[azure lintel]

You only run blues if you need that survivability

[chrome peak]

is it bad to run full reds?

[azure lintel]

again, sounds like a skill issue

We're talking about PvE no???

[autumn furnace]

i think i got 7

[fair otter]

its tomato tamato. I know someone who got to 11,000 SHD doing conveys so its a viable replacement. I'm lazy and hate TP around the map to chase them. floor 10 is 1 spot mindless xp/loot farming

[azure lintel]

ok good we can agree on that

[desert crystal]

isnt 15.1 ment to be tomorow

[fair otter]

yes

[fair lake]

@fair otter I chased enough convoys to become braindead one-click oxi player

[fair otter]

yea. I hear that.

[terse rune]

Hi. Anyone know where i can find sturdy extended 7.62 mag?

[autumn furnace]

on guns that use that caliber

joking.....Checkpoints

[vapid crypt]

Projects can sometimes have a mod reward as well

[terse rune]

Can you tell me exactly which one?

[vapid crypt]

It's random

[terse rune]

I do but doesnt give

Tnx

[autumn furnace]

sometimes it takes a while

[wide lotus]

bruh we are getting rolled back

this si such bs

[empty willow]

Lol

[wide lotus]

via expertise

[empty willow]

Should never of farmed tombs🤣 🤣 🤣

[wide lotus]

i didnt farm tombs

everyone is getting rolled backadn we wont be rlled get abck

[empty willow]

Imagine grinding tombs then get rolled back lmao at ya plebs

[stiff kindle]

I'm having an issue where my inventory screen turns bright white after a couple seconds. Is anyone else having that issue?

[empty willow]

Like who didn't see this coming hahahahaha

[wide lotus]

this is wht happens when u dont test your game

[wide lotus]

this has nothing to do with certan peopel this roll back is to everyone

like everyone

doesnt matter pvp or pve

[empty willow]

Ofc blame ubi maybe blame yourself for grinding tombs ya know in games thilese things get rolled back and patched so y do it

[wide lotus]

which emans soem pepel mightnto even ahve cewrtain items and gear

[wide lotus]

u realize the roll abck might include gear right? xD

n items

[vapid crypt]

They're only rolling back people that glitched their levels

[wide lotus]

nope

[vapid crypt]

Yes they are

[wide lotus]

this is for everyone

[empty willow]

I cant get rolled back lmao

[wide lotus]

nto just gltiched

i didnt gltich it btu im getting rolled abck

[empty willow]

Not even close to 20so try again pleb

[vapid crypt]

Re-read second paragraph

[empty willow]

I didn't glitch tombs like other plebs here

[wide lotus]

me either

but if u watch and it says it rollbask everyone tht has had kill xp

KEYword EVERYONEE

[tender wave]

currently each proficiency level you gain in anything gets you 1 point towards your next expertise level if you got it by donating, but 2 points if you got it by playing. Tomorrow that will be fixed, so your expertise level will be recalculated based on 1 point per proficiency level, however you earned it.

[vapid crypt]

"This will impact most players active during season 9 and will bring their expertise level where they should be at"

[wide lotus]

yea via gear ... thts wht im talking about im tyalking bout materials lost tho we dont even have a date like -_-

[empty willow]

Ehh im not even close to 20 so the roll back will barely touch me if at all don't glitch games then u won't have to worry lmao

[vapid crypt]

Damnnnn 😂

[wide lotus]

wht does tht have to do with div 2? xD

sounds like u don't get much attention but okay xD

who u calling kiddo? xD im probably older then u lol

u realize tht im not a little kid right xD your a guy talking trash about naruto when u cant stick to div 2 xD

[gloomy lark]

Good thing I didn’t go hard in expertise 😆

[wide lotus]

and you don't get enough attention xD

[tender wave]

take it to PMs guys, or I suspect a mod will get involved

[wide lotus]

imagine saying naruto sucks because i mentioned the rollback lol if your tht mad then idk xD

🤣 anyways only thing I got close to lv expertise 20 was fox prayer kneepads but I think I'm at like 10 so yea

wonder what are gonna get as compensation 💭

[gloomy lark]

Mats

[vapid crypt]

^

[lone valve]

What was the point of throwing non relevant insults at each other lmao

[vapid crypt]

should give us extra apparel cache keys gonna be honest

[gloomy lark]

Only if it’s event apparel caches 😆

[vapid crypt]

Yea, I'd accept that nicely as compensation 😂

[wide lotus]

wait when's the golden bullet event? like a date?

[vapid crypt]

Not sure exactly but it's in quite a while

[gloomy lark]

Check the season tab

[azure lintel]

While ISAC does get limited to the DZ, he likely has some things in the wristwatch itself that helps decryption

Caching, sort of

[lone valve]

Late in the season

August iirc

[wide condor]

in 10 weeks according to season details

[gloomy lark]

Leveling reward track is ridiculously fast

Wish it kept going for bonus stuff

[azure lintel]

Also, from what I'm understanding of the Twitter post, they had a bugged XP gain for kills that affected every player who dared kill in a shooter game. They even say that they were forced to recalculate "every player's progress" and that "this will impact most players active during season 9"; I'm not really understanding where "only players above 20" is coming from, because by that logic someone at 19 that progressed faster than intended would be fine and someone at 21 would be rolled back obviously before 19 despite putting more effort into it.

[wide lotus]

thanks again for this and my point

[azure lintel]

So, what caused you to believe it's specifically for people above 20 and why? Without picking something stupid to insult, that is.

[wide condor]

indirectly it is for people above expertise 20, but they are changing it in a way that everyone will be max 20, however it also means someone level 19 now might be level 10-15 after this

thats how i read it

[wide lotus]

i even just watched kamikaze vandoom n his words said everyone so tht includes everyone yk? so its a whole roll back yk

just others may not be as affected as others

[timber hatch]

The tldr is that everyone who has only gained experience through leveling gear, not donating anything, will essentially have their experience halved.

Gaining proficienticy through combat exp is giving double the experience in the experience system so players experience levels have ended up higher than they should.

[wide condor]

but this also means the donate xp was always correct, even tho i seen people say not to donate as it gives less xp/is bugged XD

[sturdy creek]

the donate xp is not correct. It will take all your materials when you hit Donate All in instances where you really only needed 30 printer filaments to max out an item...

[wide lotus]

again it says kill xp.. everyone in this game has had kill xp so everyone is getting looked at whether u did or not

thts the point

[copper oar]

Soooo,

We are all going to lose our hard work for making our weapons proficient due to the bug/issues with expertise? Essentially this is what is happening I am guessing?

[wide lotus]

pretty much and no compmensation

we still dont have a date for it so ye

[sturdy creek]

they are rolling back everyone with any kill xp, it is pretty clear if you read the announcement

[azure lintel]

Then start caring less and learn English

[copper oar]

From what I read, it will commence on the 31st the wipe.

[wide lotus]

it just says "later in the week" for compensation

[strange bluff]

What a dumpster fire. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wide lotus]

i.e no date

[azure lintel]

The common saying is "I couldn't care less"

[sturdy creek]

I agree with Dumpster Fire

[azure lintel]

Ridiculous of you to bring yourself to criticize the way other people write while making such mistakes

[wide lotus]

ngl the compensation part is a bit ehh because they dont even know so far so yea

[cunning robin]

We should start a petition to bring back the deployable cover from the division one

[azure lintel]

One of the variants is semantically nonsense

Ouch, I'm the second kiddo in the chat now

[lone valve]

Calling others kids pls
What is this
Kindergarten

[wide lotus]

real tough guy here lol

[strange bluff]

They couldn't even get the new gun models working properly, and you want them to add a "new" skill? Like dude, dont pour liquid dog shit in this dumpster fire please.

[azure lintel]

He doesn't like being pinged after being a douche to someone for no reason

[lone valve]

[fervent berry]

Dumpster Fire sounds like a badass exotic gear or weapon name

[azure lintel]

Dumpster Fire should be an exotic backpack with a fire pulse around the player

It's literally a miniature dumpster

[strange bluff]

Its a new LMG, shoots out Massive employees to do your bidding. Result may likely end in your own death and frustration, use with caution.

[wide condor]

shuold be a new unlockable skill, push a random dumpster on fire into a group of mobs

[fervent berry]

Jesus, that sounds like a mess

[copper oar]

But wait, my expertise level is only level 6. Are they really going to bring it back to 0? lol

phew~

[azure lintel]

Not 0, but it will be reduced

[copper oar]

Reduced to Level 2 I wager.

[muted rapids]

oh so my level 3 is also gonna be reduced

[wide lotus]

it might actually

[azure lintel]

Someone around here said it was going to be half, but I know nothing of that but hearsay

At least one level for almost everyone is certain to be lost

[wide lotus]

might be like 2 or still three but lower

[sturdy creek]

if you delete your agent I bet it will foil there XP rollback! lol

[wide lotus]

basically anything but 0 will be rollback

[fervent berry]

As a developer, this problem shouldn't have been a thing now if it were properly QA'd or playtested before releasing to prod

[wide lotus]

faxx

[muted rapids]

they playtested it and idk what happened after the pts

[azure lintel]

i thought you had to tp out though?

[fervent berry]

Logically, if people already passed level 20, just raise the max to 30 and provide initiatives to those who have yet to reach max level

[azure lintel]

They playtested current HB and went "yeah it ok tbh"

[muted rapids]

PVP was not put in mind

[wide condor]

wouldnt suprised me if they have like several different builds going on and backport stuff

[fervent berry]

Dropping from 30 to 20 complicates so many things and it's not just those who shouldn't have passed 20 in the first place

[muted rapids]

But yes Heroic ones can still melt your bonus armour if that's the case

[wide lotus]

i feel bad for people at 10 to 20 tho because they are gonna be getting the shaft mainly

[gloomy lark]

AAA gaming 😆

[muted rapids]

Also they lost a stage of testing for Heartbreaker bc it was causing deltas

[unborn pollen]

can someone make a guide on farming gear with game crashes every few minutes? would be very helpful

[vale ledge]

heartbreaker cause deltas?

[wide lotus]

game crashes?

[unborn pollen]

everything causes deltas

[muted rapids]

Used to, I think

[fervent berry]

Dunno much about PTS since I'm a console player, but PTS and their testing servers could be completely different. Changes in PTS may not be necessarily pushed into official release, unless a major screwup happened at the eleventh hour.

[azure lintel]

#td2-build-advice message this is their "yeah it ok tbh" on a build with a shield in a game that allows you to use the blue bar and a shield to sustain a talent with 25% TWD whose only balancing factor was a fairly long cooldown to the damage when getting hit

[wide lotus]

not for me anymroe no

[muted rapids]

Cuz stacks were fucking over servers

[vale ledge]

i keep getting deltas these days.

but you could get full stacks with strikers last time, just less striker users.

[wide condor]

delta errors (network/server related) and game crashes (actual game freezing) are 2 different things

[unborn pollen]

everytime i shoot an enemy my game crashes, every time when i vault over something my game crashes, everytime i use a skill... you guessed it... my fking game crashes

[gloomy lark]

For once I’m glad I play console version pc sounds like a pain

[unborn pollen]

yea im having the game crash stuff not the deltas

[fervent berry]

They are, but those issues could be dependent of each other

[unborn pollen]

but it was fine before tu15

[wide lotus]

i don't get deltas as much at all only thing I can think of is the 100 percent loading screen but all u need to do is hold back or esc

[fervent berry]

If hardware can't keep up with demand, things freeze and connections can be interrupted.

[unborn pollen]

ever since tu15 the game has become unplayable for me cos literally every mechanic causes my game to crash :/

hope theyll fix it tomorrow

[wide lotus]

do u use dx12?

[unborn pollen]

dx12?

[wide condor]

but thats an issue with the game not hardware

[wide lotus]

dx 12 casuses issues for some and others it doesnt

[wide lotus]

Direct X 12 yes

[unborn pollen]

ah, i dont think i do no

[wide lotus]

it also fucks up with windows 11 aswell

for alot of people i heard

[unborn pollen]

im still on windows 10, where can i check what dx im on?

[wide lotus]

in the game yea

[fervent berry]

Well, the game (and the hardware, inherently) is managed by the team. From what I heard, lots of things happened to the dev team about this which is a whole different thing

[wide condor]

back during season 1-4 wehn i was doing raids and someone crashed it was always cause they had dx12 enabled, now after s4 doesnt matter what, crashes do happen, some days 0, other days several times

[unborn pollen]

ah there, mine is turned off

[wide lotus]

ok then it could be wht your running the game as or your specs yk

has happened to many others so yea

[unborn pollen]

all my graphics are on lowest too cos thats what was causing it before tu15, i also have to verify my game files every time i launch the game the first time of the day lol

the game is a fking mess for me and idk how to fix it since tu15

[wide lotus]

id reinstall the game tbh

[unborn pollen]

hence why i hope tomorrows patch will fix it

[azure lintel]

same

I've already done cartwheels from all angles to please the SHD gods

[vale ledge]

i only have up to lv3 weapon, so i'm mostly not impacted... i hope

[unborn pollen]

yea ill probably try that, wont lose my character though right?

[azure lintel]

Nah, it gets saved to the cloud

[wide lotus]

nope

[unborn pollen]

yea im gonna try that right now then cos this is fking stupid at this point

ive lost atleast 20 exotic drops to crashes too which sounds funny but i couldnt even see which i got

i stopped counting after 20

[wide lotus]

again could be the specs your running on yk?

[plain grove]

Everyone is as its kill xp

[wide condor]

you can try clearing shadercache from div2 profile folder (my documents/my games will have a div2 folder)

[unborn pollen]

everything is on lowest

[indigo iron]

The amount of confusion surrounding this is quite interesting so I figured I would take a moment to clear some things up regarding the expertise system.

Your Expertise Level consists of your total proficiency ranks. Each item has 10 ranks, therefore Expertise Level 1 requires 10 items at "Proficient" to hit it. Since Expertise level 1 requires 100 XP to hit (The XP needed IS the proficiency ranks from items).

So what was going wrong? Well if you leveled up an item via kill XP rather than donating, it gained TWICE the intended proficiency ranks, so instead of 10 you got 20 XP towards your expertise level per item if you became "Proficient" with it via gameplay.

***So what fix are they implementing that requires a rollback (oh no scary word pls no my precious grinding)? ***They are adjusting the total XP gained towards your expertise level to be in-line with the intended proficiency ranks each item should give. So if you became proficient with an item YOU STILL WILL BE. The only change takes place towards your expertise level. If your expertise level is artificially higher because of this bug it will be "rolled back" to its correct level.

How is this going to affect me? For a majority of players you may see a loss of 1 expertise level...that's it. Unless you have tirelessly farmed The Tombs mission to become proficient with dozens of items you will not be affected. If you donated items or materials you will not be affected AT ALL.

Everyone needs to relax a bit, this is a GOOD fix and is GOOD for the health of the game.

[vale ledge]

i donate more than i kill, muahahahahah

[cunning robin]

Lol what

[wide lotus]

but bad for people whop farmed level xp and now wont get their materals back so yea

[cunning robin]

It was just a suggestion

[indigo iron]

Did you upgrade past 20? If not then the materials you spent will be compensated via caches.

[fervent berry]

For some reason, I can hear this text, and it's Keener laughing in the background

[wide lotus]

again no but the kill xp means everyone liek i said not jsut past 20

[plain grove]

Yea but not the exact amount it's gonna be the same amount for everyone

[unborn pollen]

well game is installing again now... hope thill fix it

[wide lotus]

there isnt a set date for the compensation aswell so u dont kow exact

[indigo iron]

How many items did you max out via kill XP? If it is less than 10 than you will not even see the loss of a level.

[vale ledge]

i had like 14 expertise levels, but i only upgraded a few weapons to lv3 at most, if they took out the killXP likely my expertise level will downgrade like crazy, but not so crazy that it is below lv3 and not so crazy that the lv3 weapons i had lost proficiency....

[wide lotus]

u will tho thts wht im saying

[lone valve]

"Fairview crew Apparel event not being available in the game"
As a known issue
NO shit yall delayed it 😂

[unborn pollen]

imagine paying real actual money for crash simulator 2022

[strange bluff]

The new named weapons from season 9, Dare LMG is supposed to use GR9 model, but it's using a Stoner model, same thing with Kingbreaker, it's currently using an AK model, when it's supposed to use the new AR model.

And almost ZERO attachment look properly when put on the new AR model. Ie. Laser is jammed into the bottom of the gun.

[wide lotus]

because everyone has a expertise level . the only peoopel who wont be affected are lv 0 people

[cunning robin]

Ah, I’m sure ubi will fix it soon

[wide lotus]

if u want i can link u a video showing u tht it affect ervyone not just a certain amount

[indigo iron]

It seems you do not quite understand how the system works my friend

[unborn pollen]

idk man, if its gonna be like DZ youll be waiting a long time for a fix

[cunning robin]

Fair

[indigo iron]

Yes you will lose some XP towards your expertise level, but that XP you are losing wasnt meant to exist in the first place

[vale ledge]

donate all junk and donate all resource yet fixed... i will still donate all junk tho because it saves time

[vapid crypt]

Bruh

[copper oar]

If Kingbreaker is not based on AK Model, I wonder what the AR was supposed to be based on? I hope they fix these issues with the new guns.

[indigo iron]

If you progressed any item you will still receive the intended amount of XP towards your expertise level

[fervent berry]

I think KB was meant to look like TKB

[indigo iron]

Yes number will go down slightly but it will carry almost 0 impact and prevent further issues within the game.

[fervent berry]

I'm more looking forward to the fixing of those weapon textures tbh

[wide lotus]

again kill xp thts my thing it doesn't say minus 1 level so u don't know wht your talking about it makes no sense the rollback especially if theres no specfic term that's wht im saying ti doesn't say everyone rolled back one level

[unborn pollen]

anyone alse agree with me on this? id rather have them take the game offline for 2 or 3 days and fix all the BS going on right now than have it go on the way it is now

theres so many issues going around atm

[indigo iron]

Again it seems you do not quite understand how the system works

[vale ledge]

instead of 2 or 3 days, they taking down in 3 (or more hours)

[fervent berry]

From a dev standpoint, it's a bad idea albeit I understand where you're coming from

[vale ledge]

not that 2-3 days can solve all problems

[unborn pollen]

i know it sounds bad but the game is nearly unplayable atm

[indigo iron]

If you leveled an item via kill XP you gained 20 ranks instead of just 10. They will be rolling that 20 back to 10. So any item you ranked via kill XP will now correctly give you 10 ranks towards expertise

[fervent berry]

Even if they decide to overhaul the entire smash, it will take more than 2-3 days

[indigo iron]

Like I said 95% of players will not notice anything...

People seem to be upset because they do not understand what is really going to happen

[wide lotus]

again where does it say back one level?

it doesnt.

[vale ledge]

i'm looking forward to compensation caches

[unborn pollen]

even then, say it would take a week, if they actually fixed some stuff instead of making things worse like they have been the game would be better off for it... we seriously need a proper anticheat, we need mechanical and graphical fixes and so on

[indigo iron]

what does 1 level have to do with anything?

[wide lotus]

no u said people aren;t gonna be affected thtr are over lv 20 thts wht u said

[indigo iron]

Wait for tomorrow and you will see.

[wide lotus]

see?

[indigo iron]

People over level 20 will be the most affected

[vale ledge]

i think not much people had lv20+ gear

[indigo iron]

95% of players will notice 0 change

[indigo iron]

Exactly

[azure lintel]

Dude, this isn't even what you were saying while insulting the guy

[sturdy creek]

"So if you became proficient with an item YOU STILL WILL BE. The only change takes place towards your expertise level." This part doesn't really make sense. Say you are proficient in all items as a result of the XP glitch. They roll you back to level 10 expertise and all your gear remains proficient.... the question would be how then would you progress from level 10 to 11 if everything is already proficient..

[wide lotus]

exactly

[indigo iron]

If you have all items proficient than you will be expertise level 20

[vale ledge]

the only fear is that by normalising your kill xp, you lost proficiency and hence ALL upgrades for that gear

[azure lintel]

Oh okay, let's start tossing around romantic relationships too

[wide lotus]

ths my point was it affects everyone doesn't matter if its minor or major its still affects everyone

[azure lintel]

Good lord, I think I know how it felt to argue with me online when I was 14.

[indigo iron]

That is why the sooner it gets fixed the better

[wide lotus]

n it doesn't say pushed abck one level because we don't know

[indigo iron]

So people dont get confused

[indigo iron]

It will be different per person

[unborn pollen]

cant argue with stupid, id safe the energy for more important stuff

[wide lotus]

exactly but again iof u grinded those materials they even said they will not give u the exact compensation in terms of caches and when they do its "later in the week"

[fervent berry]

It's a lot of tasks to complete in a matter of time. Anticheat, hotfixes, refactoring, it really really takes a lot of time. There's planning, development, and testing involved, and each process can take at least 2 weeks each in a practical manner. I'm not even talking about constraints like time, management, and budget too. That would depend on the dev team as a whole.

It's really not ideal to rehaul the entire smash despite everything wrong that's been going on. The best thing the devs can do is to implement hotfixes, no matter how tedious they can be, to gradually but steadily fix many errors.

[indigo iron]

The more items you leveled up via kill XP the more you will be affected, but I am talking if you leveled dozens of items to be proficient with them via kill XP which I would imagine doesnt apply to anyone

[wide lotus]

it says kill xp tho which is everyone

[unborn pollen]

you do agree that its messed up though right? i mean anticheat alone people that have been cheating and been reported since day one are still running around in dz

[muted rapids]

p sure if their gear is over 20 it would just be back to 20

[azure lintel]

Someone looked in a mirror recently.

[sturdy creek]

I was meaning that all items were proficient due to the kill xp glitch.

[indigo iron]

They are not guaranteeing you get exactly the amount of materials you spent but you will be compensated. This statement was most likely put out because of the costs not being exactly perfect numbers to give back. You will not lose any noticeable amount of materials I guarantee you that

[muted rapids]

if I'm interpreting this correctly

[indigo iron]

Nothing would happen to those items

[wide lotus]

@indigo iron again they havent set a date so again we dont know when just "later this week"

[azure lintel]

If that's what ticks you off, then I'm into anthropomorphic animals with a lot of pride

[sturdy creek]

Nice I hope not...I am level 21 and have ranked up a few weapons to LVL 20 + 20%

[indigo iron]

but what I am saying are the materials are irrelevant here. Almost 90% of the community is probably not above expertise level 5

[fervent berry]

No I get you, 110%. I also experience a lot of issues with it. But at the end of the day, the devs provided you a product that you could enjoy or not.

Also, what's pretty cool is the relatively constant communication from the devs to the player base. Do you realise how rare this is in game development? It tells me that the devs are trying at the least to improve the game so let's cut em some slack and hope for the best.

[indigo iron]

If all of your items are proficient you will end up at expertise level 20

[azure lintel]

Bro, real talk, one day I fed a stray dog and it talked to me

[wide lotus]

how do u know tht tho? and this isn't about the community this is about everyone doesn't mean anything it affects everyone again whether minor or major

not everyone is a hardcore player keep tht in mind

[azure lintel]

And it was like "the drawings on the internet hurt, people on the street won't stop trying to do unspoken things to my body"

[indigo iron]

Exactly my point, non hardcores will barely if not be affected in any impactful way

[azure lintel]

And I didn't even know how to respond to a dog knowing the internet and knowing that part of the internet

[unborn pollen]

thats fair yea they are doing the best they can with the resources they have, never said they havent either i just wish theyd either ban cheaters more or focused on a anticheat for their next big update

[sturdy creek]

all my items are not proficeint! lol I am fkd, I have like 15 to go

[indigo iron]

@wide lotus I understand your concern, just wait and see what happens tomorrow.

[indigo iron]

Then you will be fine still

this will not prevent anyone from reaching rank 20

[copper oar]

For those that did not read the recent news about Expertise RollBack here is a partial:

The adjustment will be rolled out on May 31st. This will impact most players active during Season 09 and will bring their Expertise level back to the level they should be at. This will also impact any item upgraded.

We will be granting SHD caches including materials to all affected players, as compensation for the feature rollback and the materials you have invested in gear upgrades. You can expect the update on the compensation availability later this week.

[wide lotus]

@indigo iron im not coming at you im saying it affects yk lots of people

yk n then it sucks to lose materials

[indigo iron]

Sure but it wont effect a lot of people in any meaningful way in terms of their materials or expertise level is what Im trying to express to you

[indigo iron]

The materials you will lose will be very minimal unless you upgraded all the way to 30+

[wide lotus]

for ther hardcore players not reeally btu for everyone yea i understand wht u mean

[fervent berry]

Yeah I understand ya. Anticheat is a big thing in itself. I can't speak much about it in this game because I don't play PvP, but I can certainly get the concern for anticheat tech.

[indigo iron]

and then again they will be reimbursed via caches

[wide lotus]

yea but we dont really know yk when tht date is which kinda sucks yk

[indigo iron]

Sure but its not a big deal imo especially to the player base at mass

the effects will be minimal and the fix is a GOOD thing

[unborn pollen]

to paint a picture of the dz, you get shot through walls sometimes from the other side of the map, people that just wont die even though theyre 0 hp, ive even seen someone teleport

[peak crypt]

Hello.

[wide lotus]

its a big deal to the people tht are yk not as hardcore as most but i see wht u mean

[indigo iron]

How many have upgraded past level 3

[indigo iron]

losing 300 materials is not impactful imo even to a casual player.

[fervent berry]

Me, I reached LV 4 this morning before going to work

[indigo iron]

ayeee

[wide lotus]

in terms of playtime yes but hardcore players no not really

[indigo iron]

The casual player will not even be using this system imo

[indigo iron]

You can get back those materials in less than 5 minutes as a casual

[fervent berry]

Man, that sounds like hell 😂
I would've probably shut down the console and gone out for a walk

[indigo iron]

Solar Farm CP, clear it out and pick up all the material boxes in it

[wide lotus]

again this is opinon we dont know yk

[indigo iron]

Then you will get a cache later on with even more materials

[unborn pollen]

theres a whole known group in dz thats been there since day 1 of div1 and now div2... when i see them in there i just leave cos theyre well known cheaters

[indigo iron]

Well based on the time investment required I would say its a safe assumption

[unborn pollen]

theyre also the one i meant with ive reported them countless times but theyre still there

yea im on about cccp

[indigo iron]

Regardless, I ask you to wait and see what happens tomorrow @wide lotus and then you will see how its not a big deal and a GOOD thing to get fixed as fast as it has been.

[wide lotus]

@indigo iron not really considering theres alot of players on console and pc that are casual but to meets is own

[unborn pollen]

imagine how many reports that mustve taken

[fervent berry]

Good on ya for reporting them. If only something could've been done by now...

[wide lotus]

im not saying its bad... im saying it sucks they could have handled it better

[unborn pollen]

that would make the game alot better :/ i legit avoid dz cos its 95% hackers nowadays sadly

[azure lintel]

They could have tested it before releasing it, period

[unborn pollen]

yea mustve been alot

[azure lintel]

Why was 20+ implemented in the first place?

[indigo iron]

This is the best thing they could have done imo, refunding materials and fixing the system. Fixing it as fast as they could to prevent greater impact etc. It is a team of 35 for crying out loud XD

[unborn pollen]

i loved the pvp in this game but the amount of hackers made it imposible and with none getting banned theres no point in trying anymore

[fervent berry]

It has really put me off from PvP since year 1 tbh. Occasionally, I'll go in a DZ during the early hours and come back out 15 mins later. No loot extracted 😂

[wide lotus]

keep in mind this should have been done in the first place imo

im not even at 35 im just saying as others were

[indigo iron]

This bug didnt surface until it went live and when it did they addressed it

and now it is getting fixed

[azure lintel]

better now then later ig

[unborn pollen]

it used to be so good man like legit scheduled clan fights, loot runs and all but now its just "oo a exotic drop" and 3 seconds later youre dead cos a wall shot at you

[wide lotus]

this bug could have got fixed just like how heartbreaker got fixed in the PTS thts the thing

[indigo iron]

How can you fix something when you do not know its broken friend?

[azure lintel]

HB got buffed over the PTS phases

[wide lotus]

this is why we have a PTS and testing

[indigo iron]

Didnt surface in the PTS or I am sure it would have been addressed

[azure lintel]

I think it did... wasn't it someone from Vroom that posted an image of 20+?

[wide lotus]

even if it didint again this is why u have people and testers

[wide lotus]

n yes

[lone valve]

That matters not
Cuz the models of the dare and the King breaker were" fixed" in the PTS phase 3
And then tu15 dropped and they were broken again

[indigo iron]

This was occurring by purely donating as well so it would be difficult to pin it down at that time

[azure lintel]

Ahhh got it

[lone valve]

Wait lmao I know you
I watch ur yt vids astro

[indigo iron]

Hello friend 🙂

[azure lintel]

He's a celebrity 😎 affiliate as of today too poggers

[unborn pollen]

MUM im on youtube!!

[wide lotus]

Exactly point is could have been better

[unborn pollen]

:P

[indigo iron]

[wide lotus]

@indigo iron lol Hi MOMM get teh CAMERAA

[rough shoal]

Hey agents. At what time does the weekly raids reset?

[indigo iron]

Everything could always be better, im not acting like it couldnt be by any means. Im just being realistic when viewing the topic considering the circumstances

[vale lintel]

Will they roll back SHD levels too?

[indigo iron]

No

The only change will be your expertise level if you have leveled loads of items via kill XP. The change will correct your expertise level to its intended level.

[lone valve]

If they did that
Oh boy

😅

[indigo iron]

We are not gonna talk about that XD

[azure lintel]

Okay so, when we point out Astro do we say "it's Astro" or "it's ItsAstro_?"

[vale lintel]

i'm level 12 with 122 or 133 proficient items

🥲

rip lol

[indigo iron]

If you have 0 progress made towards other items (items you have ranked up but are not proficient with them yet) then you would need to be proficient with 170 items to hit level 10. I would imagine you do indeed have partial progress in other items tho

If anyone is concerned what level they would be post fix its easy to tell based on the amount of items you have at max rank

however if you have partial progress it will change your level ofc

[vale lintel]

let me check in-game lol

[azure lintel]

Shit I'm at 115 at 12...

[indigo iron]

depending on your partial progress you will most likely see a larger change

if anyone farmed tombs for kill XP then you will be the most affected

I have a feeling you knew what you were getting into XD

[vale lintel]

okay, it's level 12 with 141 proficient

[indigo iron]

rip

regardless you technically are not losing anything

[vale lintel]

i did tombs for a few mins but got so bored that i quit the game lol

[tender wave]

I've been avoiding donating since I heard about the bug, only level 7 so far but I suspect I'll be down to level 4 tomorrow. Still, this is the most likely outcome I could see happening

[indigo iron]

If you have not donated then yes

keep in mind this is just correcting your level, everyone was artificially higher than they should have been

it just feels bad because people get to see number go back down

[vale lintel]

donated as in materials or actual gear or both?

[indigo iron]

when it should not have been that high in the first place

[indigo iron]

both

If you donated you will not be affected

[vale lintel]

i spent so many days donating gear.. it's gonna go all to waste.. rip :/

[indigo iron]

So you have 244 items proficient?

Then you will be level 14

[tender wave]

you're not reading the discussion, are you?

[indigo iron]

Donating is not being affected

you are fine, donating will not be impacted at all

[copper oar]

wow...as soon as I patch my armour an elite grenadier one shot kills me...wtf

[azure lintel]

Solution: stack Health stat 😎

[alpine tiger]

What items deconstruct to get polycarbonate materials ?

[azure lintel]

5.11 meta pls
?????????question mark

[fervent berry]

broooooo the ultimate juggernaut

The ultimate c h u n g u s

[azure lintel]

uzina getica
10% health
10% health
100% ascent to godhood
50% ascent to godhood, other 50% locked behind dz loot

[fervent berry]

b r a h

other 50% locked behind dz loot
Jesus, well there goes the other half of my godhood

[azure lintel]

I will get the red yaahl holster and y'aahl can't stop me from this mental suicide

The rainbow EP build demands it

[peak crypt]

I just got 2 scorpios in one run

[azure lintel]

Speaking of which

[copper oar]

why do I keep getting hit with an explosion after I clear the Park (near the haunted House) area of Coney Island

[azure lintel]

I wish we had health damage builds

Well, we do, but I mean the status

Like those chemicals that directly damage the agent's health

[proven condor]

Sounds like I’m gonna go be going down to Level 20

[peak crypt]

They had in division 1 a bleed setup I think.

[proven condor]

Grinded like 25 hours to get to Level 40 and to be fucked by this.

[azure lintel]

You're fine....

The cap was supposed to be 20 anyways. You'll still be maxed after the fix 😐

[azure lintel]

I still can't fathom bleed dealing armor damage

[fervent berry]

Who's grand idea was it to push past 20 anyway? Was it that one player who showed it off on YT?

[azure lintel]

oh no, my armor is turning into red liquid and going away from my body noooo aaaaa

[peak crypt]

lol

[fervent berry]

Bleed damage logic makes my brain bleed

[peak crypt]

Your armor is bleeding man let me put a bandaid on that.

[indigo iron]

This means you upgraded every item via kill XP, meaning you are the 0.01% that will be affected the most (if you spent loads of exotic components to upgrade all the way to 40 which is highly improbable)

[azure lintel]

this guy saying i should be getting 500k + xp with the convoys but i only got 265k, i did all the instructions

[novel laurel]

@azure lintel they nerfed it

[azure lintel]

oh

what is the best xp farm now

floor 10 summit

just ask @plush granite

[novel laurel]

Facts

[unborn pollen]

i was gonna but doesnt he only want sub 20 sec runs?

[novel laurel]

Supply convoys even with all the directives gives 300k or something. Legendary summit with most directives on is over 900k

[azure lintel]

That's an exaggeration XD. It's still efficient if you get it below a minute

[unborn pollen]

he asked for people once in the lfg channel saying he wants sub 20 sec runs

[azure lintel]

LMFAO

[unborn pollen]

mustve been a joke then

[azure lintel]

I mean it probably is possible. You'd need everyone killing themselves ASAP though. Like throw the Oxidizers and then immediately run in them

[indigo iron]

yaya

[fervent berry]

That reminds me, shoutout to that one random guy at Lincoln Memorial who kept shooting themselves with their oxidizer chem from behind cover.

I sincerely appreciate your efforts, and best of luck mate 🙏

[unborn pollen]

lol

[azure lintel]

"If my camera points here when I aim and fire, blind fire should put it here too, right?" - me 2 seconds before dying to my oxy

I love the visual glitch where it looks like everyone is just committing seppuku with Oxi

[fervent berry]

I can't tell you how many times I've killed myself with my own fire and oxidizer chems when a teammate literally walks in front of me before I shoot the launcher

Like I know my status effect build is good, but damn, not THAT good

[lone valve]

Apparently the dread edict is broken in pvp

Getting dread edict stacks from just using the jammer pulse 😂

[azure lintel]

Dread Edict met

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