td2-general-chat

[prisma dove]

do what

[wide condor]

put laser on

[fervent berry]

use a tech laser

[prisma dove]

i was talking about famas
you can't use it on famas 2010

unless you got idk famas 2020 corona edition

[fair lake]

YES, it goes past 20. Lvl 21 requires 110 points. AND the numbers are different for players. What a joke

[lone valve]

Wait they are different per player??
Now that's fucking fair ain't it

They really fucked this system up

[fervent berry]

I thought it was established earlier that it wasn't meant to go past 20

[lone valve]

Yea well
They messed up

Someone is already lvl 30 so

[fervent berry]

Dang son, I thought this is what PTS, QA, and playtesting are all about

[lone valve]

This is basically PTS phase 4

[fair lake]

Ubi has anything mentioned?

[fervent berry]

Not that I know of

[lone valve]

About what
Expertise?
Believe they've said the math is wrong with donating all
In the known issues

That's about it

[fair lake]

1st player is lvl 20 - everything proficient
2nd player is lvl 21 - everything proficient
3-rd player is lvl 20 - 70% proficient

[fervent berry]

seems legit

[fair lake]

I'm just laughing at this crap

[pallid fiber]

+;P[;LF

[lone valve]

Wonder how long it'll be till they tell us 15.1 is coming

[fair lake]

Better be the end of May

[fervent berry]

Just May-be

[prisma dove]

better be tomorrow

[fair lake]

Better be....

[lone valve]

The expertise thing is bad
But there's people out there DCing and crashing left right and center

[grim pilot]

So its been awhile since i played, im not getting credit for completing league acxtivities. It seems all settings are right and im play9ing heroic..What am i doing wrong?

[lone valve]

Like I had a countdown session where my entire subgroup DCed

[lone valve]

The True sons elites eliminated and enemies bled?

Cuz the missions are on hard and challenging for it to count

[grim pilot]

no got those i have did jefferson plaza like 5 times in a row but deosnt show completed

[lone valve]

Are you on the right difficulty

Check the difficulty the mission wants you to play on

[grim pilot]

ohh so it has to be on exact difficul;ty then??

[lone valve]

Yes
3 missions are on hard
And one on challenging

It tells you on the league menu

[grim pilot]

damn my bad thought heroic would count..TY

[fervent berry]

It's okay, I did the same thing earlier thinking clearing those missions on heroic or something would count

[fair lake]

But there's even league text before you start, that you need to change your difficulty to "hard" or "challenging"....

[lone valve]

Add league mission's on legendary so people "speedrun" those

[fair lake]

20 mins timer

[fervent berry]

pffff reading is overrated anyway. I wanna shoot black tusk peoples

[fair lake]

Understandable. Have a nice day 👍

[fervent berry]

[dapper rampart]

i can get kingbreaker in countdown right or whats better to grind for it

[fervent berry]

You can farm it in countdown if you target loot ARs. Or you could purchase named caches from the requisition vendor for kingbreaker but it's all random at the end of the day

[dapper rampart]

alr

[fervent berry]

You also get one for free via season rewards if you progress enough. I don't recall the level but that would be your first kingbreaker if not from a cache

[dapper rampart]

aight cause im just currnetly grinding countdown but no kingbreakers so far

[fervent berry]

It's hella random. Set your target loot to AR and it just might help you out

[dapper rampart]

mk

[lone valve]

Target loot ARs on countdown
And you'll be walking out with ARs in every pocket in ur player

[high yacht]

🇵🇭

[alpine tiger]

When devs nerf hearbreaker ?

[celest plank]

working just fine, why they would nerf it?

[alpine tiger]

Because much noobs complain in dz and they dont know its easily to make pulse resistance 🤣

[prisma dove]

who knows

[prisma dove]

because it's the most game breaking shit they ever put out

[alpine tiger]

Its fun much than div 1 striker 😜

[celest plank]

so its more broken than meta spotter builds?? with kingbreaker!!!!!!!!

[prisma dove]

what

[celest plank]

its super fun for pve and good in some pvp situations

[prisma dove]

broken=fun

how is dealing 75% more damage than any other build in the game fun lul

[celest plank]

are you able to build that stacks every single pvp fight??

[prisma dove]

use a shotgun

[alpine tiger]

Ac shotgun

[celest plank]

am asking if you were able to get full stacks every fight

i have the rock n roll

[quiet escarp]

Yeah it's easy with a 300rpm shotty because more than likely someone runs shield so you stack until they stun then swap and melt

[alpine tiger]

I can easily when play full armor so would tank double armor so nice toxic 😍

[quiet escarp]

@alpine tiger you were running floor 10 earlier dude I asked for an invite like 3 times lol 😆 😂

[celest plank]

will in my dz servers you would be pretty much dead before getting to half of that stacks

[quiet escarp]

Dz?

Who plays dz lol

[alpine tiger]

Lol its done but boring

[quiet escarp]

Yeah I've 18 more levels to go 😕 😞 💤

https://tenor.com/view/protivogaz-gustav-gas-mask-p3mask-insane-child-gif-16517875

[alpine tiger]

There is dozen of variant builds if they nerf HB set

[hallow halo]

I like dark zones cuz I get sweet loot but it ain’t as intense as Tarkov

[quiet escarp]

Fo sho

[hallow halo]

Is betraying people in Dark zones worth?

[alpine tiger]

Dont sleep on HB set expertise farm cause they will trash it soon as usual they did in past div 1 days

[alpine tiger]

Yeah its fun

[alpine tiger]

For ?

[quiet escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/fo-sho-snoop-dogg-for-sure-gif-10890829

[hallow halo]

I don’t usually do it cuz it’s just rude

But it’s a part of the game

[fickle edge]

What's the best way to do the bleed and elite thing in the league? I don't have ridgeway chest

[quiet escarp]

Stinger hive cc build

[hallow halo]

What skills do you guys use

For DZ I use shield and drone

[craggy pond]

Anyone else think Summit floor clears should give more XP? I did floor 58 and it gave me so little XP

And I have 9 Directives on

It's 700000 to level up and it gives 53000

Like bruh

[sour crag]

is there a fix for the countdown gameplay still getting this glitch

[sick remnant]

where is the best place for exotic drops?

[sour crag]

ithink so after the match it says 100% and does nothing

ok ty

[spark junco]

Am I the only one who gets a guilty pleasure from hearing the soda machines kicking out the soda? >_>

[plucky nova]

Yes

[azure lintel]

They can keep the sound just shorten the animation and maybe I'll actually press it next time

Just the slap on the machine is enough tbh

[boreal iron]

sad

the devs wont let me type out a message caliing them out for being lazy and not even putting an anti cheat in the gamw yall are lazy and your game is gonna die

[azure lintel]

I was going to say there is one, but I'm not sure EAC counts

[reef reef]

its not the devs, btw. Try using more constructive language, instead of what you wrote previously.

Automod caught your messages, not any of the devs.

[azure lintel]

hi vepikss!!

[boreal iron]

Lol you act as if that makes a difference they still give no care towards the game or the players and the game is still dying

[reef reef]

Send those messages on the forums. This is primarily a community discord, the devs are here to communicate new stuff, not get talked down to by people like you.

[boreal iron]

bY pEoPle LiKe me lmao get off your high hoarse this convo surprising enough doesnt involve your opinion at all.

[azure lintel]

yeah get off that hoarse aspect

[reef reef]

Please be civil, if nothing else. The game is fine, yes the anticheat leaves something to be desired, but that doesnt mean you can call the devs names.

[boreal iron]

No actually its pretty valid its been what? 4 years 5 maybe? and they dont do anything they are lazy and dont care about the game. theres literally no more to it.

[reef reef]

Then communicate that on the official forums. The devs will for sure not read what you are saying if you are just calling them "brain dead".

Being mean on the internet doesnt lead to anything good.

[hot pendant]

oh yea,the dev will totally gonna read our threads if it's about how good the game is and what needs to be fixs.

[azure lintel]

Are you also saying you don't get paid Aspect? WTF?????

[reef reef]

pay me then

:(

[hot pendant]

i mean,technically speaking not every moderators are in ubisux's payroll sooo...

[azure lintel]

huh

[hot pendant]

it's just how it works honestly not everyone in dev team is a moderator,well..except for some server that wanted to do that for some reason.

[reef reef]

i mean i do this because i like making sure the community doesnt set itself on fire

i also dont get paid

as much as i would like to get paid, i dont

so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

people have a hard time actually believing i dont get paid, but i can show you my bank statement

legit like 50 bucks in there

0 of ubi's money

[hot pendant]

im still salty about ultimate edition owner doesn't get access to warlord for free 💀

and battle pass wasn't free during the first season is another nail in the coffin for me.

[reef reef]

it was free during the first season

anyone who got warlords of new york got season 1's premium pass for free, even the rerun of season 1

[hot pendant]

wait,so did you still have to rebuy it even if it got rerun?

[reef reef]

no

if you bought warlords at any time

you have season 1 (jupiter's season)'s premium pass

not year 1, by the way, year 1 pass is a completely seperate thing

but if you got into division 2 after season 1 finished, say you caught season 3 and on, you would not have to get season 1's premium pass a second time

[hot pendant]

oh yea im sure it's a seperate thing since i din't get warlord even tho i pre-order the ultimate edition,i mean who would've know there's gonna be another Expansion.

[reef reef]

what are you asking

we are likely on two different pages

[wide condor]

ultimate edition is base game + its its upgrades, wony is a separate thing

[reef reef]

ah so andrew just never got warlords in the first place, had to reread some

[wide condor]

yeah just base game up to level 30 stufff

[reef reef]

yeah none of the battle passes are free, you have to have wony for them

[hot pendant]

damm 💀

[reef reef]

wony does go on deep discount quite a lot, so its worth just keeping an eye on it. I've seen it go on sale for as low as 6$ USD, if memory serves.

[wide condor]

its on discount atm, the other sale just ended and new one started xD

[hot pendant]

but still tho,shouldn't ultimate edition should give owner pretty much everything the game has to offer? or was it just only me nitpicking since that's what ultimate edition do on 90% of the game in the market

[rugged hatch]

Holy hell can we finally get a freaking fix for the freaking Delta.

[wide condor]

wony ultimate edition is base game+wony +year 1 pass and some cosmetic stuff

[hot pendant]

i din't bought that one unfortunately,i pre-order the base game's ultimate since that's the only thing available at that time. 💀

[wide condor]

yeah thats usually how ubi does thing afaik

[hallow halo]

I’m so done with ganking

When I matchmake I can’t find a team but when I give up and solo DZ I get ganked

[hot pendant]

well that's depressing.

[quiet escarp]

To be honest, I love div2 but I agree with @boreal iron the game has been broken since launch, I STILL get dx12 crashes after all these years, not as frequent, but I still get them... just for inspecting players or being in my inventory too long.... but it is a rare occurance and is the major reason I won't stream this game anymore due to that embarrassment...

[dire iris]

Is it an intended effect that i'm getting the heartbreaker buffs when i use my pulse even though i don't have heartbreaker on however when i'm close to my teammate with heartbreaker, i get the buffs from him?

[azure lintel]

That sounds... pretty awesome LOL might be a bug?? 👀

damage glitch 2.0??

[toxic cove]

"position in queue: 16" message connecting .. never saw that one before

[glossy abyss]

In countdown do you actually have to press and hold extract your extract or can you just sit in the circle under the rope until the timer runs out?

[shrewd perch]

best place to farm outcast assements?

[gilded perch]

You can gank someone in dz before he gank you🙃

[marble dirge]

any suggestions about inventory space...150/150 all day

[toxic cove]

you've created 3 other mule characters to store other gear already ?

[glossy abyss]

Fuck I cannot do anything in dz without getting gang banged by groups of 3 turning rogue immediately after clearing a landmark or anything the rogue timer is such bullshit

100% guaranteed to always get the first hit in

Fucking hate dz

[marble dirge]

??? 3 characters ???

[pallid fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZyNrpMyf8I

it was inventory managment from other ch

[toxic cove]

yeah, you create 3 other characters, boost them, upgrade their inventory space and use the stash as the bridge to the other chracters

[wild spindle]

Where is Cassie Mendoza?

[wintry creek]

Question: working on Ridgeways' Pride, have all 5 components, matchmaked into group and cleared floor 100. Project did not pop. Is it because someone else sent flare for chopper?

[wide condor]

find the snitch, talk to him, then she will show up on map(shopping cart icon). atm, on pc atleast, cassie is in judiciary square top right

[copper oar]

holy zeus, I really stirred up the hornets nest that time.

Warhound Convoy, Territory Control, Rescue Operation all at once. lol

[wide condor]

doing stuff on heroic often results in a complete warzone xD

[copper oar]

true true

[hallow halo]

LETS GO

[autumn badger]

Sup I'm new on here

[hallow halo]

This group of 4 tried ganking me

[autumn badger]

Anyone on ps4

[hallow halo]

I sniped 2 and gunned down the other 2

I hate gankers

[hallow halo]

Anyone with the ps icon next to their name is on ps4

[autumn badger]

Cool cool howe come the everything is locked on this discord

Cool if I joine you

?

[autumn badger]

Cool if I joine you ?

[civic cargo]

what is going on with this game? just came back after some months away and having lag spikes, mission restarts, getting kick

[azure lintel]

The recent update did some real fucky-wuckies on many people's games

[bitter hound]

Anyone else game crash when they extract in countdown

[broken rover]

Does anyone have a checkpoint at or near floor 81 of the Summit that they'd be willing to share?

[tight ermine]

Hit and hold ESC after you exfil.

Oh wait, you're Xbox.

[bitter hound]

Yeah

[tight ermine]

I think it was B button or something.

[vagrant zephyr]

Anyone know a good farming method to get to level 40 real quick…. I got no more things to do to get exp except for killing, I gotta be level 40 to do that one mission for that one guy?

[bitter hound]

Ok I’ll try next time! Thank you for that suggestion

[tight ermine]

Farm floor 10 of Summit with as many directives as possible or do Heroic convoys. That's the quickest way to gain xp.

[kind cedar]

Should i just farm Lincoln for the true sons elites eliminated or is there any better way?

[vagrant zephyr]

Aight bet

[tight ermine]

Countdown is an option. Since it's restricted to a single faction at a time and nearly every single enemy spawn is an Elite.

[kind cedar]

Alright thanks

[tight ermine]

Only downside is you have to hope the enemy you're fighting is True Sons. But other than that, you can just keep farming it for kills.

[wooden tiger]

Hey dudes, I want to make sure I'm not going crazy. I'm only missing the shoulder pads for the ridgeway's pride quest, and have done floors 10-20 SOOOOOOOOO many times without it dropping

Those are the correct floors for that piece, right?

[tight ermine]

11-20 Yeah, I'm sure.

[wooden tiger]

Sigh... maybe its bugged out for me, because it's been an absurd number of boxes opened at this point

[tight ermine]

Could be. I don't know if it's an RNG thing either. If it is, that's some shit RNG you've got.

[wooden tiger]

😦

[broken rover]

Does anyone have a checkpoint at or near floor 81 of the Summit that they'd be willing to share?

[reef reef]

i am so sorry for you dude

you've been bamboozled

its 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80, 81-99

you have been doing the wrong floors

[wide condor]

bet you used that windowscentral "guide" XD

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTJEX5DerCvOj3a_m36TRy1gPBAUvrduOIdmXI9j1Y0MpQk1wIXaZ9KOcPa7HzXzp_N5qGmjDj6yEfL/pubhtml# will show all the info you need regarding exotics. idk if its pinned anywhere on this discord

[haughty summit]

brackets of 20 floors

[wooden tiger]

sigh... first google result strikes again

Really appreciate the info guys, thank you

[reef reef]

I should yell at the first google result

[tawny sage]

Hello, i came back

[pearl lava]

🤔 ridgeway is really2 funny, the exotic component drops only from the chest that exist every 3 floor, if u didnt get it by next segment u better rerun the summit

[fiery cloud]

Morning Aspect

Hey Octa

[magic rock]

I forgot how to type in game chat on ps5?

[azure lintel]

down on d pad

[pearl lava]

hello saphere

[magic rock]

Ya ohs been ages lol p

It’s ty all

[azure lintel]

Just returned the ps4 preowned to get the ultimate edition on ps store

[languid vale]

is there a setting to remap the fast travel button I can't see it

[lyric mortar]

Anyone has problem with ubisoft connect? it says ubisoft service is currently unavailable and I can't log in

[fiery cloud]

@languid vale what do you mean

Yes

Goto key bindings

[languid vale]

I can see everything but that in there

I get that issue all the time @lyric mortar I just keep trying and get in eventually

[lyric mortar]

Alright thanks, I'll keep trying

[verbal zodiac]

I'm having the same problem here

[tawdry narwhal]

Same

[verbal zodiac]

have you guys fixed it yet?

I'm trying but nothing seems to work

only my mobile connection works 😂

[median valley]

Yes I do

Cant launch the client

[lyric mortar]

I used VPN and it let me in then I turned my VPN off

[median valley]

Let me try that

Nope the VPN trick didnt work either

😭

[verbal zodiac]

I dont want to use a VPN, so I hope it fixes itself

I'll check later on in the day since a lot of people are having this issue

[lyric mortar]

It worked for me when I changed my IP to Germany

[median valley]

Oh ok, anyway times up for me need to go back to work.. Really wanted to farm some Div 1 GE credits during my break

[azure lintel]

Hi

[south mist]

Goodnight Agents

[azure lintel]

It’s 10 am

[mystic zealot]

4pm here XD

[terse rune]

Hi. Is anyone from Turkey?

Where can I choose new skills that I acquired in New York?

[fiery cloud]

Goto white house or while in wony goto main base there

Brain fart goto haven

[tender wave]

The skills are unlocked as soon as you get them from the missions, select them from the same place you choose any other skills (you may just need to scroll up to see the top row of skills)

[azure lintel]

Am from iraq

[terse rune]

Thanks bro

[terse rune]

I wnat to know turkey ip is banned in game?

[azure lintel]

Idk

[desert crystal]

Who eles has 120fps monitor

[azure lintel]

Nah mine is 1 million

[burnt flower]

quick question, how do i farm for field recon data, running low

[fiery cloud]

@terse rune shouldn't be

[prisma dove]

I got 144 if that helps

[fiery cloud]

Servers might be getting service

[craggy pond]

Can you get DZ exclusives from the hunters in countdown?

[topaz ravine]

Hey guys

How good is the mechanical animal

[desert crystal]

Its a Friday

[distant oak]

For shooting it is not the best. A lot of recoil. But the extra skill tiers and overcharge you get are sometimes very handy if you got the right build for it.
Personally I have used it only a few times just to see what it does for me. Never used it again.

[desert crystal]

Is that to be used on animals

[topaz ravine]

Ah would i be better off using a carbine 7

[desert crystal]

Thats higher than mine

so it sounds like the pc version goes of what you monitor surpports then

[prisma dove]

What

[desert crystal]

i ment whats the highest you can have on the pc version or does that depend on monitor

[distant oak]

Carbine 7 is one of my most used weapons. Together with the Mk16.
If you want the future perfect talent, you can put it on there.

[prisma dove]

Depends on the monitor

Lol

[topaz ravine]

Is kingbreaker worth trying to get

[prisma dove]

It's pretty good
I'd farm for a carb 7 and if it happens that i get kingbreaker good
But still go for catb7 or police m4

[topaz ravine]

I already have a carb 7

[prisma dove]

With flatline?

[topaz ravine]

Is it worth grinding for the king though

[prisma dove]

Use that then

You get one from season pass

[distant oak]

Only if you use it with a lot of weapon handling. A lot of recoil because it is an AK.

[rich shadow]

Accuracy isn't great on the kingbreaker

[prisma dove]

It's not an ak
It's worse

[rich shadow]

M4 seems better for me personally

and faster RPM

for stacks

[prisma dove]

Carb 7?

[rich shadow]

also great

[distant oak]

For me personally 790 is my limit. All the above don't do much damage.

[topaz ravine]

Tier 80 ight

[rich shadow]

of course they do

RPM x base weapon damage

[distant oak]

It is a personal thing. For me the high rpm guns don't do enough damage.

[rich shadow]

You're not making sense

Damage per shot is irrelevant if the RPM is slow

thats why faster firing weapons have slightly lower base damage, and slower firing weapons have slightly higher base damage

if you do the math, most AR's come out very close to each other

in terms of DPS

[craggy pond]

Lmao facts. Can't just feel like high rpm guns don't do damage. Not how that works if they have around the same DPS XD

[distant oak]

That's why I said it is a personal thing. Never mind what the stats say.

[craggy pond]

Ya, I "feel" like Usain Bolt isn't the fastest 100m runner. But the stats say he is XD

[rich shadow]

lol

Don;t get mislead by bigger, per shot, numbers

[bitter sandal]

its actually some australian
so no what u "feel" is right this time

[distant oak]

That's why you have to test out every gun. See what works for you. Not by looking at the stats.

[craggy pond]

Oh nice, but my point was still made

[rich shadow]

in terms of handling, yes, but in terms of pure damage, stats are king

I could argue that beyond 15meters, you'll miss more shots with an AK (poor recoil and accuracy) than you would with a carbine 7, and therefore the damage from the carbine will, in practice be much higher.

[pearl lava]

there's like looks good on paper type of builds. not on this game only but on every game.

[desert crystal]

Wouldn’t this look good in vr

[pearl lava]

got buzzed by hunter on ur vision VR, running like hell because hunter chasing u

[distant oak]

People are still using the weapons. So you can have the ultimate absolute best strongest weapon on the planet. If your aim is bad. It will not work.

[pearl lava]

the best weapon is bullet king because no reload = no dps downtime

[prisma dove]

Based

[vale ledge]

Faster RPM = Slightly faster stacks

People who do LMG-only/AR-only HBs will agree

[left mica]

Just use an ACS on something that's pulsed and you max your stacks with like half the drum

[vale ledge]

Wait for them to nerf this

[left mica]

I'd be more surprised if they didn't tbh

[vale ledge]

So far AR-only HB still pretty good

Can facetank stuff like your HF ppl

Makes me wanna main Chameleon

[pearl lava]

Making chameleoj great again

But it never great to begin with

[distant oak]

I'm not an lmg fan. But with that new expertise level I need to use an lmg build. The new GR9 lmg really supprised me. Shoot very accurate and does a lot of damage.

[vale ledge]

GR9 is bugged for how much damage it can dish

[bitter sandal]

i thought it was a new DMR not an LMG by the looks of the gun xd

[vale ledge]

Unless someone has the stats, pretty sure it outgun RPK (except perhaps with Frenzy)

Bluescreen also reload pretty fast... Really makes me hate my Pestilence.

[dull blaze]

Fkn hell so many delta crashes

[dusty walrus]

Any Indians are there to play regular in ps 5

[terse dirge]

question, since I got blue screen and dread edict before I got them from season pass can I assume new exotic max is also on the world drop/exotic caches or nah?

[vale ledge]

Yes. All new exotics are in the general loot pool

[terse dirge]

okay ty for the answer

[finite warren]

if i will boost my character should i create new one?

[vale ledge]

Boost to lv30 is free, no?

[finite warren]

not free

[steady delta]

Can purchased gear (like from the dark zone vendor) been shared?

[vale ledge]

Eh? I got the prompt to start WONY without playing the vanilla, immediately started off with lv30

[vale ledge]

Within same accounts via stash.

However extracted dark zone gear can be shared.

[steady delta]

but not with friends, right?

[vale ledge]

Friends no, unless they are in your team when you gotten them.

[bitter sandal]

Ive noticed Shotguns and HeadHunter are kinda bugged

[steady delta]

So, if I am in a group with my friend and I purchase something from the DZ vendor, can I give it to him?

[vale ledge]

I don't remember you could.

[steady delta]

ok, thanks

[vale ledge]

Purchased gear do not allow for "sharing" since there is no timer.

[muted arch]

hello i have a question how can you get a drop of exotic gun parts?

[vale ledge]

The Hyena SMG project?

[tender wave]

Parts for a specific exotic gun, or just general exotic components?

[vale ledge]

Google the project name.

[muted arch]

yes

do i need to finish all missions and side missions first?

[vale ledge]

https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/The_Chatterbox no need

You will need the keys to open the strongboxes tho

[muted arch]

the difficulty of the mission should it be hard?

[vale ledge]

Which means you likely cant get the parts early on

[muted arch]

i have been opening those boxes on the grand hotel mission but no luck

[vale ledge]

No clue, I always play on heroic

[muted arch]

i need to finish tidal mission first...

[vale ledge]

Oh, story mode?

Then yes, it could be a problem.

[frank holly]

Sorry if this is a dumb question

Trying to figure out how to trigger the DCD HQ league mission

Just did the invaded one

[lone valve]

Set it on the difficulty it wants

Eitheir hard or challenging

And try changing mission mode

[frank holly]

I did, but it doesn’t show like it did for the hard difficulty for the other 3

[lone valve]

Hold triangle

And change mission mode

[frank holly]

Ah okay I’ll give it a shot

[desert crystal]

bonty menu

then it saids dcd bounty

[mint pollen]

Anyone else know better way to Farm Zero F'S Armor piece ?

[pearl lava]

the best is doing countdown, set badger tuff as ur targeted loot and hope the best

[lone valve]

Countdown

[mint pollen]

already doing that

aint getting it Have already farmed for a day straight

[pearl lava]

or buy the named item cache on countdown vendor

[lone valve]

I've gotten a bunch of Zero Fs doing countdown
Mostly from the hunters

[haughty summit]

Badger target loot

[lone valve]

That's who you wanna kill for the named items

[mint pollen]

am i just that unlucky

[lone valve]

You get a shit ton of loot in countdown
Just keep at it

[haughty summit]

Wait till you don't need it or trying to build HF + HH shotgun build

Zero Fs come raining down like it's 9 dir

[mint pollen]

need it for Exotic Ridgeway Pride

[lone valve]

Badger tuff is also targeted loot in open world if you wanna do that too

[mint pollen]

countdown is easier do

[haughty summit]

"easier" is relative

[slender ember]

Yes

[haughty summit]

it's more like stresful for me since I have to load each room up first

[steady delta]

Rock n Roll shotgun can be obtained by pvp only? Or is there a chance to get it from targeted loot in countdown?

[lone valve]

Well its easier to get loot from
And like everyone now is running HB so
It's not that hard
Most hard part will be extraction

[haughty summit]

PvP or named caches

[lone valve]

It's in the dz vendor rn

[slender ember]

You can get Rock N Roll from Named cache also.

[haughty summit]

or in DZ vendors as mentioned

[steady delta]

yeah, but DZ is pain

[slender ember]

DZ West vendor

[lone valve]

Just go in a open those boxes around the dz

[steady delta]

Named cache from which source?

[haughty summit]

be lucky and get a DZ farming group lol

[slender ember]

@steady delta Any named cache but they can be bought with Countdown pts.

[steady delta]

THX

[slender ember]

Np @steady delta

[haughty summit]

tbh I never actually got one but I remember that it's a definite drop if you get it as a bonus loot from conflict cache

[clear vessel]

Guys how hard is the new countdown gamemode for a returning player

[vale ledge]

At least rock-'n'-roll comes with the stats u want from the start, just need caliberation and optimisations.

[haughty summit]

heroic + hunters encounters

[vale ledge]

Raid, easy mode.

Early on, you may lose your way around the map, or confused when nobody knows which encounter to take.

[unkempt sparrow]

yeah I thought it would be as hard as raid but its easy af

[vale ledge]

Bring your summit build. Works

[clear vessel]

Great ill try it tonight in mm hope someone will carry lol

[haughty summit]

try not to take scenic routes lol

first hand experience

[vale ledge]

Lol yes, I got lost, and then I won

No idea why

Just make sure you have the tools to take out at least 1x hunter alone, in case your team sucks

[haughty summit]

if you're pinned by a hunter do cover to cover manuvers

[vale ledge]

Usually it's 4v1 hunter, or 8v10+ hunters

[dull blaze]

God damn guns lvl slowly its unreal

[vale ledge]

Bring Scorpio, solve everything

Hunter is no problem

[dull blaze]

Riot foam

[vale ledge]

I prefer my revive hive + noob shield combo XD

[stiff bridge]

is there any specific way of getting steel? other than just exploring open world?

[vale ledge]

True Sons missions

Or just visit various checkpoints

[stiff bridge]

oh ok thankyou

[lone valve]

It's open world but do a daily takeover of solar farm
True sons plus a shit ton of material boxes

[vale ledge]

Solar Farm more for polycarbonate, but yes

[haughty summit]

there's like a building to north of whitehouse that has a bit of material boxes too

[stiff bridge]

thanks

[lone valve]

Now with expertise
Solar farm has become even more relevant

[dull blaze]

Solar farm is so good

300/400 off all mats in 15 min

[vale ledge]

Always not enough polycarbonate for my recon materials, now required for expertise -_-

And the weekly 500 polycarbonate project...arrgghh

[dull blaze]

I always had a load of titanium spare now im always short

[dull blaze]

That shit aint worth doing anymore

[vale ledge]

Yes

Material was in abundance then

[lone valve]

Yea the project for a exotic and a named item is not worth it at all anymore

[vale ledge]

Especially with watch

[lone valve]

Not even in the slightest

[dull blaze]

They need to rework mats for sure

[haughty summit]

eh I still do them for the XP, and who knows I might share the exotic to someone

[vale ledge]

Named items wasn't easily gotten without the seasonal content.

[lone valve]

They need to increase the cap
But I doubt it

[dull blaze]

I need to do the tombs with all my named items ill never use

So many shit weapons i cba to lvl up

[lone valve]

Wym
You don't wanna lvl the rpk

[dull blaze]

Anything thats singlefire tbh

U can cheese all automatic weapons on story

[vale ledge]

If the current raid add more narration and visual cues on what to do... More people will participate...

[lone valve]

Let's see what I get out of this league exotic cache

[dull blaze]

Nah it has shit rewards too, only reason is regelus and eb

[vale ledge]

Countdown is like Dark Hours, just easier enemies and bosses.

[lone valve]

An imperial dinasty ofc 😂

[unkempt sparrow]

man I used to roll on credits on div 1

im broke af in div 2

[vale ledge]

Missions don't usually give credits now, only bounties

I sold so many gear, opportunity costs on material if I disassemble instead.

[haughty summit]

they still do tho??

actually if the reward is credit then yes lol

[vale ledge]

Sold 150 pieces of gear... Only 10k credit

[unkempt sparrow]

literally cant recalibrate becasue either im out of ceramics/electronics or credits

[tender wave]

You'll need exotic components for higher level expertise upgrades, so it's best to keep stockpiling them in preparation

[vale ledge]

Not worth it for 500 of each resources

[unkempt sparrow]

500 ceramics💀

[hot pendant]

why am i stuck on 100% completion loading screen upon succesfully exfil in countdown?

[vale ledge]

I believe the first time you clear summit lv100 or black tusk missions you get higher chance for exotic.

Go at it.

[unkempt sparrow]

I think I have like 20 mil credits on div 1 still

[hot pendant]

like,the screen litteally shifting back and fourth so rapidly.

[haughty summit]

Next time esc -> hold esc asap when the second screem is displayed

[hot pendant]

BRUH

[haughty summit]

For now good ole alt+f4 is the only fix lol

[dull blaze]

Hold whatever backs u out normally

[vale ledge]

Hold ESC

[hot pendant]

are they planning on fixing it tho?

[vale ledge]

Proper use of that key

[unkempt sparrow]

oh yea they will fix it

we don't know when

[haughty summit]

Yes, when we have no clue lol

Stop jynxing me smh

[hot pendant]

💀

[clear vessel]

Whats that

[vale ledge]

Most overpowered weapon in game

[clear vessel]

I didnt play in a long time forgot everything lol

[vale ledge]

Exotic shotgun which poison/bleed shocks and reduce resistances

[unkempt sparrow]

free CC

[vale ledge]

Damage wise also pretty strong

[clear vessel]

When did it drop and how do you get it

[vale ledge]

Play more

[clear vessel]

Pls dont say you get it from caches

[vale ledge]

Can get from anywhere

[unkempt sparrow]

lol

[clear vessel]

I tryed geting momento and 0 luck

[unkempt sparrow]

just farm target loot shotgun

[vale ledge]

I got few mementos from black tusk bosses

Scorpios also

[clear vessel]

I tryed summit targeted loot and nothing

[vale ledge]

Had a pestilence dropped from simple elite in summit yesterday.. Just play more

[haughty summit]

Oh yeah DZ exo is in LZ now I forgot lol

[vale ledge]

Which DZ exo?

[haughty summit]

Both?

[vale ledge]

They are LZ

[clear vessel]

Targeted loot backpacks and got the exotic chest piece lol

[vale ledge]

ze RNG

[prisma dove]

any target loot backpack

[prisma dove]

this was an exotic off target loot

which is pretty damn rare may i add

[vale ledge]

Exotics can also drop from the crates in world map

Happened once for me, pestilence also

[clear vessel]

My RNG is perfect in all the wrong areas lol

[vapid light]

Heartbreaker probably melts in the raid

Doesn’t it ?

[prisma dove]

Ye

[vale ledge]

Depends...

I see HB people die to 1st hunter they met in Countdown.

[vapid light]

I’ve pretty much perfected my build for it. It’s been melting countdown npcs. I wonder how it does in the raid. I’ve never been crowd control in the raid mostly support/healer

[vapid light]

Those hunters hit abnormally hard

Like even raid npcs don’t melt your health like that

[vale ledge]

Was carrying a Scorpio, running HF no sweat

[vapid light]

I think hunters are on a scale of their own lol

Literally a category of their own

Their shotguns and ARs melt half of your health per bullet

[vale ledge]

Next TD game we might be playing as hunters...haha

Stealth Suits

[vapid light]

Rather than a gradual decrease lol

[vapid light]

Hahahaha, nerfed hunters

[vale ledge]

No. Ghost Recon style hunters.

Different style, you play alone, and has to deal with large groups, you need to be imba

Maybe raid type mechanics for missions

[unkempt sparrow]

lol HB isn't a facetanking set, of course they die to those hunters

[vale ledge]

The skills description has facetanking properties

But that said, you need stacks for it to work

Most of the time I had to rely on my armor-on-kill to survive a mob fight with HB AR build..

[vale ledge]

I think a heroic elite hyena smg person does around the same amount of damage

Hunters are just more deadly because they can tank slot of stuff, has alot of gimmicks, can 1-2HKO

[terse dirge]

question, how do I get extended 7.62 mag?

[desert crystal]

Craft it

[lone valve]

Mods you get from LVL 4 CPs

[normal veldt]

Hello, Why "3 hostiles Disoriented simultaneously" doesn't count? I'm using Banshee

[tropic compass]

Skill builds but scavenged skills and no ammo hoarders

Makes a lot of sense

[lone valve]

Summit?

[unkempt sparrow]

banshee is a pulse wave, it disorients in waves. Use Scorpio with eclipse*
at least I think thats why its not working

[normal veldt]

not working too(

[unkempt sparrow]

what is it for?

[mint pollen]

What is a good way to farm the Eagle Bearer

[vale ledge]

disorient? just play HF, kill anybody in summit, instant 3 disorient

[normal veldt]

summit challenge, effects expert

[tender notch]

its exclusive to the 1st raid.@mint pollen

[mint pollen]

damm

well time to Go insane

@tender notch Wich raid is it ?

[lone valve]

Dark Hours

And you can't get it on discovery

You need a group

[stoic yacht]

raid, only on normal diff

[finite warren]

now im in lvl 30 world 1 and should I bust my character or create a new one

[pine surge]

one of the people in the clan i’m in joined me while i was trying to do a challenge on Capitol Building and when we finished he gave me some good stuff, i’m upset that i didn’t know how to thank him for it

[fervent berry]

Invite them to a cup of coffee

[lone valve]

Use the salute emote
Or type on chat

[pine surge]

i saluted but i wanted to figure out how to type in chat since he said GG

[lone valve]

You can turn on the chat in the settings btw

Smth I also didn't know when I started out

[pine surge]

i’ll take a look at the settings later

[fervent berry]

That interface on the Xbox loads so slowly though, kinda annoying. Sometimes I'll directly message them instead

[tawny sage]

Bros, any ps4 bro that can help me? Im trying to unlock clan feature but missions are too hard

[tender wave]

I think disorient might be bugged now. I couldn't get it to work with ongoing directive (no special ammo when killing a disoriented enemy) and a few people have reported the summit challenge not working. Wonder if the shield-break-disorient addition has somehow stopped other disorients classifying as a status effect

[rich shadow]

try hunters fury with Grudge to test

[normal veldt]

yea, guess so, found some topic on ubi forums and reddit

[tender wave]

Needs further testing though, could be a great way of annoying hazpro players in pvp

[unkempt sparrow]

bro what is with Carbine 7 dropping with only overflowing

saw like 5 of them just from today

[tender notch]

thats their fixed talent, got to get one with DTOOC dropped so you can roll off the talent.

[unkempt sparrow]

oh it is? no wonder

lmao

[stoic steeple]

Guys does rock and roll shotgun drop from targeted loot?

[fair lake]

DZ \ conflict exclusive

[keen light]

Do the hunter on summit floor 100 count towards the 2 you need for the ridgeway chest step?

[stoic steeple]

Thx

[lone valve]

https://imgur.com/gallery/m6dCaXB

Lol raid speedrun pops up in countdown

And it's very glitched

[lone valve]

On sale at the dz vendor rn
West one

[worthy lark]

does anyone do Summit here for Heartbreaker Set 😄

[latent arch]

Does anyone know a good way to get the bighorn or is it still run CPs ?

[lone valve]

Bighorn is still legendary mission exclusive

Don't think it ever was available in CPs

[latent arch]

@lone valve oh ok... My mistake then .. Well good thing I asked before I started doing CPs. LOL... That would have been a big waste of time. Thank you. And is that just the weekly legendary mission ?

[wheat zinc]

The three strongholds or legendary Summit from bosses

[latent arch]

Thanks Again

[tall crag]

Open PSA to all who go into Countdown:

DONT be the human equivalent of a paper towel underwater, until extraction

Thank you.

[maiden belfry]

Anyone else refusing to play PvP because of HB cheese

Even if you run a pulse immune build, your teammates still give your enemies stack

[clear vessel]

Is that the normal vendor or?

[lament mirage]

Eh it's not that bad

Better than skill builds and shit

And teammates? Play dz

[maiden belfry]

It's bad

If you don't run HB, you don't stand a chance in this meta

If that isn't bad, I don't know what is

[lament mirage]

That be an excuse . But continue on

[maiden belfry]

Skill builds still exist, they never went away

[unkempt sparrow]

just kill them before they get stacks lol

[maiden belfry]

But the usual run and gun builds are completely replaced by HB

[lament mirage]

HB still better than getting killed by a skill build

[wet igloo]

I wonder

Has the spreadsheet been updated yet?

[next herald]

Run EMP Pulse.

[maiden belfry]

Oh yeah I forgot, I'm talking to bunch of PvE children

[lament mirage]

Nah I played both

[next herald]

Literally EMP pulse counters skill builds, it's simple lmao

[lament mirage]

True

[lone valve]

Why attack pve people lol

[lament mirage]

Either way u adjust and adapt to the meta or get bodied by those that run it

[unkempt sparrow]

can this game not crash💀

[lament mirage]

Prob had nothing else to say

[next herald]

Lmao HB isn't actually the greatest in PvP either, it's just an easy cheese that can be shredded through, though on the other hand it is god tier in PvE

[warped sandal]

ngl countdown pretty good for getting materials

given the elites that do drop stuff drop like 5 of em

[lament mirage]

Yea a sadist / ridgeway/ wicked or s concussion eb / unbreakable will still perform better n don't require stacks

[next herald]

I had full stacks in DZ? I got actually 1 tapped by a dude with a snipe build

[lament mirage]

HB good in pvp sure but not reliable

Just like momento

[warped sandal]

welcome to the dead zone

[lament mirage]

As in pvp in a fight u want ur damage right then and there therefore relying on stacking gonna get u bodied

[next herald]

I know lmao, homie I run DZ for fun as a solo.

[warped sandal]

lmao

wanna run through the dz my boy?

[lone valve]

I got a backfire of all things to drop in countdown 💀 💀

[lament mirage]

Pretty ok smg

[lone valve]

Oh I know
I have one gathering dust on my stash already

[wet igloo]

Tell me about it, I had a pest and BK in like 1-3 countdown runs

[next herald]

Nrn, next time I get on imma be farming for the lady death and I'm hungry AF right now

[lone valve]

Never attempted to make a build around it

[warped sandal]

damn aight

time to do league activity stuff with randoms

[next herald]

I wanna make a hunters fury build with lady death

[lament mirage]

Plus running HB u gonna be lacking either the contractors or foxes meta which still slaps

[next herald]

Not true. My build runs fox prayer

[lament mirage]

Eh but both are nice

[lone valve]

I wish more people knew to do all 3 objs in countdown
The extra loot is very nice

Like I went solo into one obj just to get all 3 completed

[bitter hound]

I never new that if you farmed countdown enough you could get exotic cache’s

[lament mirage]

Damn

[lone valve]

Yea through the requisition vendor

I have like 1k requisition just sitting there

[bitter hound]

Just went and bought 2 caches lol

[lone valve]

Might go on a spending spree later

[bitter hound]

Trying to get that mask

[lone valve]

Catharsis?

[lament mirage]

Contractors is better anyway cuz of the damage to armor n all agents have armor pair it with foxes n that's some good DPS

[lone valve]

You get it from the season track

[lament mirage]

I'm like level 5 in the current pass xd

[bitter hound]

Yeah but it can drop before I heard

[lone valve]

I'm like 90 rn

[next herald]

Yeah to be fair though I honestly didn't think of that

[lament mirage]

I'd grind but ain't missing much n like previous seasons the new stuff will just get put in the general target loot after season ends

[lone valve]

After months of actually not caring to grind anything in the game
It's good to have a reason to
Whether it's countdown or the seasons track

[lament mirage]

Yea almost most ur fights players usually be outta cover so foxes shines

[next herald]

Yeah, you can get it from caches too, it was the first cache drop I got after the update

[prisma dove]

pvp
fox prayers and contractor's are BiS
because they apply at all times

[tender notch]

just FYI Contractors and fox are only good if you are not crit starved. HB set is crit starved so normal items are better (IE ceska + coyotes)

[lament mirage]

Si

[tender notch]

they are ONLY BiS if you are not crit straved (which you are with HB set)

[prisma dove]

OOH THIS WAS ABOUT HB
sorry

[lament mirage]

I think bego a better set for pvp imo

Nego

[lament mirage]

Makes em pretty damn reliable

[next herald]

Funnily enough I've got the HB set to a reliable crit chance and damage

[prisma dove]

good job!

[next herald]

47.9 chance and 81.6 damage

[lone valve]

That's decent for HB

[maiden turtle]

Does summit ever glitch difficulty level level anyone? I have it on heroic and it seems WAY too easy

[prisma dove]

you can make it much better

[warped relic]

I miss the snowy NYC scene...

[tender notch]

47.9 chance and 81.6 damage on HB set is super low

[prisma dove]

not a glitch
thats just how it is solo at low floors

[maiden turtle]

I'm on 96!

[prisma dove]

uh

[tender notch]

HB build can reach 48chc 141chd before coyotes buff FYI

[next herald]

I'm also brand new to level 40 and don't have the resources to min max yet 😔

[prisma dove]

it's alright

[tender notch]

NP, just means time to farm 😛 decent start though

[prisma dove]

don't forget to change some cores to red cored so you can deal waaaaaaaaaay more damage

3blue 3 red is comfortable
i'd say too comfortable for new players and would lose the sense of the game when you switch off that build tbh

[next herald]

Fair enough

I am working on 2 other builds though so I'm not just reliant on HB

[azure lintel]

Homies, any tips or tricks for soloing the Hunters on Floor 100?

[digital summit]

Do I need any DLC besides WONY? I plan to start playing again

[warped relic]

Are the vendors in the settlment old Game Stop employees? Saw a gadget mod for 360, turns out it was the wrong gadget I was looking at, went to sell it back and it sells for 32... like wtf?

[supple stream]

Fresh 40 and all I hear about is Heartbreaker.

I assume it is new?

Also is there away to see targeted loot list where I am not scrolling around the map looking for an icon?

*Nvm, I see that there is more in New York. Guess we have to flop around maps to look for stuff.

[azure lintel]

Heartbreaker is the new gearset with this season

[supple stream]

That explains the 100 youtube videos of people going "THIS MELTS EVERYTHING!" lol.

[azure lintel]

lmao

[prisma dove]

this is the first time in their life where they are right

heartbreaker does melt everything

[supple stream]

Are they likely to nerf it then?

[azure lintel]

it is good
i always have a scanner on me so it's, fantastic

[prisma dove]

it's not likely
it's a guarantee
i think it has 75% more damage than the best dps build

[supple stream]

Wow.

[azure lintel]

yeah 100 stacks of 1% armor and damage is crazy

[supple stream]

By the time I farm it up it will likely be nerfed then lol.

[azure lintel]

lol

[prisma dove]

nah

[azure lintel]

it can drop iirc and you get it from the free side of the season

so you'll have it p quick

[prisma dove]

no need

just farm target loot
that only applies to exotics

also in summit you can choose what target loot you want

[supple stream]

Oh really.

[azure lintel]

i spent two hours trying to get the Catharsis to drop before i realized it was in the season track

[supple stream]

Cause I need to do 30 floors for weekly, so that's dope.

[unkempt sparrow]

lmao

[azure lintel]

im at 25/30 floors for mine but i cannot get thru floor 100

[supple stream]

One last silly question:

If the loot target icon is gray and over the 'zone' on a map it just means everything is targeted in that zone?

[prisma dove]

the gray icon means that it drops high end
and yes

BESIDES MISSIONS

[supple stream]

Ok awesome. Thanks a lot.

[prisma dove]

MISSIONS /=/ ZONES

[supple stream]

Ok so the activities, world chests, etc.

[prisma dove]

they are separated

yes

[supple stream]

Makes sense.

I really like how endgame for solo is like "do whatever, loot comes from everywhere."

[azure lintel]

Countdown also has targeted loot you can select

[prisma dove]

yeah but thats harder
you need a build for that

[daring iris]

anyone know the best way to farm momento

[lament mirage]

Requires a decent group b a bit more brain too

[lament mirage]

Like most items in the game target loot farm it in ur case backpacks

[daring iris]

ok so summit

[lament mirage]

Try summit it countdown

[unkempt sparrow]

yes

countdown has lower exotic drop rate from my experience

[warped relic]

Once you have completed a GOAL PROJECT how do you claim the rewards? It says "Fast Travel to Theater", yet when I go there nothing...

[azure lintel]

I've been hearing Countdown has insane drop rates but I've never done raids

[lament mirage]

Preferably heroic with some directives

[daring iris]

ok

[unkempt sparrow]

once got 3 exotics just from 5 summit florrs

[lament mirage]

RNG is RNG

[azure lintel]

i get the same three exotics each time stg

[unkempt sparrow]

and I only got one exotic from all the countdown I've done so

[azure lintel]

how many you done

[tender wave]

Find the person with 'Projects' floating ever their head, I think

[lament mirage]

Countdown seems like it got better chances cuz of all the named enemies

[warped relic]

I just found it... I was looking at the wrong vendor

[unkempt sparrow]

more than 30.

[azure lintel]

phew
that's a few

[lament mirage]

I haven't tried it yet seem like a mini raid

[azure lintel]

that's how it's treated iirc
as a raid

are mics a required thing? do people use mics in those?

or is it a discord that does them

[lament mirage]

Or a mission with extra steps

[azure lintel]

one in the same?
makes sense lol

[lucid solar]

Should I get back into division 2

[unkempt sparrow]

also most of the drops have attribute percentages that are dropped from heroic missions

[lament mirage]

Don't really need it but when doing stuff that requires a bit more brain such as raids then having a nice is nice as it's better for communication

[fair lake]

Dudes, expertise must be fixed NOW. 2 of my mates have 344 / 344 proficient items and only lvl20 / lvl21, while my 3-rd mate has 244/ 344 proficient items and he's already lvl 22. It's just broken garbage

[azure lintel]

I wanna do raids but my builds are BAAAAAD bro

[lament mirage]

Idk about countdown but from what I seen of it it do require a bit more brain so a mic would be nice

N ofc a good squad that knows they doing would make it a smooth run

[azure lintel]

yeah yeah

[dull blaze]

Ye i think they are fucked tho

[lament mirage]

All u need is a standard fmj build

[dull blaze]

I think they made the cap at 30 with the intention of gear to release, not intending ppl to glitch to it

[azure lintel]

My clan is a bit dead otherwise I'd try getting them to do raids with me

[lament mirage]

All red

[dull blaze]

They probs gonna fix the double xp on combat lvling and leave it there

[unreal isle]

do none of the new gear pieces shade at all lmfao

[azure lintel]

im still futzing with the recal and optim tables to get stuff maxed. don't have the materials to max my stuff rn

[lament mirage]

Tho these days idk since HB is meta but all red fmj has been the standard for doing raids

[vapid light]

I don’t think they hit that hard but they hit hard. Hunter scaling is completely different like in its own category tbh

[fair lake]

but will they boost proficient players to match the expertise lvl of players who got 23+ lvls? If no......

[vapid light]

Like the per bullet dmg, they take 40-50% of your armor

[dull blaze]

I doubt it, i think the double combat xp was not intended

[azure lintel]

on challenging i die in 6 bullets from a Hunter
like, 14 or smth if im running armor

[fair lake]

So they must roll them back, to match their intended lvl

[dull blaze]

How? What if they have items upgrades tot 20+?

[vapid light]

Also, what’s up with the expertise? I’m at level 2 and I can get 2% armor on my pieces but it doesn’t really feel like an increase? Is those one those additive rather multiplicative cases ?

[dull blaze]

Its 1% on base armour per piece so its shit

[vapid light]

Wtf is the point of this shit then ??

[fair lake]

@dull blaze
decrease. Or up everybody else. It must be the same for everybody

[tender notch]

the expertise armor bonus and skill is to base stats. WD damage one is like normal red core (not base)

[vapid light]

All this grinding, which is fine if it’s actually worth it but when I add these extra armor stats, my total armor only goes up like 1,000-5,000 rather than 10,000-40,000?

[lament mirage]

Fuck ton of grinding just for a 1-2% increase

[tender notch]

TLDR the armor bonus is complete trash, at max it gives like an extra 130k armor total from all 6 slots.

[vapid light]

For instance, if I were to put a gila piece on, it gives me 5% armor but you really feel and see the difference

[lament mirage]

So 170k-130k 300k?

[lone valve]

Only worth it ones are the weapons and the skills

[vapid light]

With this, absolutely nothing

[tender notch]

???? whats 300k?

[lament mirage]

U said extra right

[lone valve]

I have grade 4 HB set
And I regret upgrading it

[vapid light]

If I stack 5 percent armor from expertise levels, it should be on the level of a Gila brand set bonus.

[lament mirage]

170k be the standard before expertise

[tender notch]

extra yes so if you have all 6 equipped and max expertise you gain an extra ~130k total armor.

[lament mirage]

Ah

[vapid light]

Man, this so stupid.

[dull blaze]

The skill upgrades are mad tho

[tender notch]

170k is an armor core, not base armor.

[lament mirage]

Thought it was 130k on top of the 170k for a min

[dull blaze]

U get 1% active regen on crusader

[lament mirage]

Makes sense

[vapid light]

What a wasteful fucking system.

Glad heartbreaker makes up for it

[lone valve]

It's wasteful for gear yes
Weapon grade is good
And so is skills

[tender notch]

er well it IS on top of that 170 armor core. but 170 is per armor core. the 130 is FULLY total (~21.6k x 6)

[lone valve]

Banshee pulse increases the duration of the effect too

[vapid light]

So I’m guessing expertise levels adds extra weapon damage when you upgrade them right ?

[lone valve]

Yes

[vapid light]

Hmm, I guess that’s one good part of it

[lone valve]

It's worth it
Skills too
Gear isn't rn

[lament mirage]

Thanks for clearing it up

[tender notch]

skills expertise is also bad for most skills (also base) some skills its okay/meh though

[vapid light]

You can expertise skills too? Wow. I wonder what the crusader shield can be upgraded to then ?

[lone valve]

Increase the active regen

[vapid light]

Yea but is it some bullshit base whatever or is it actually a hard hitting stat increase ?

[dull blaze]

30% active regen which is massive

[lone valve]

You can upgrade the specialisation weapons too
But ur mad if ur wasting mats on them

Like truly insane asylum mad

Maybe the flamethrower

[vapid light]

Interesting

[tender wave]

Hey, they might be good once the spec revamp is released

[lone valve]

Maybe
Hopefully

[vapid light]

Do skills take forever to level up?

[lone valve]

No
You don't even need to take them out
They lvl themselves up once they are on ur loadout

[dull blaze]

Lvling skills is tedious tho

Hella slow

[lone valve]

I don't go out of my way to lvl them

[tender notch]

nope Crusader shield Base active regen is 40k, with max expertise it goes to ~48k. (max is 20 expertise FYI, above level 20 is confirmed bug for this season)

[lone valve]

So whoever is lvl 30
Wonder what they'll do about that

[dull blaze]

So how they intend to fix it then cus theres loads of ppl 20+

[wide condor]

bugged? not suprised lmao

[lone valve]

Since its not intended and it gives a clear advantage in damage

[tender notch]

not sure but going to drop the level of people above 20, down to 20. is my guess

[lone valve]

They better

It'll be interesting seeing them fix it

[dull blaze]

Honestly such a stupid mistake why uncap it at 20 lol

[lone valve]

Their plan was to lvl it once more items were added iirc
So season by season

[tender notch]

its meant to rise per new items getting added but bug in their code that has that active this season (above level 20)

[vapid light]

What’s the best way to level up expertise ?

[dull blaze]

Tombs mission yt it

[vapid light]

I saw the video but so many people said it took ages and it wasn’t giving what was on the video

[cinder cloud]

is there a fix for the heartbreaker set? swapping around the pieces doesn't seem to be working anymore

[dull blaze]

Its 100k xp per minute and thats just what in getting

[tender notch]

no hotfixes have happened yet, might have one this tuesday coming.

[dull blaze]

Expertise xp that is

[vapid light]

It’s actually working for you ?

[dull blaze]

Ye slap it on storymode

But it works best for gearsets

Cus the more pieces the more xp exponentialy

[vapid light]

Hmm, let me see then

[vapid light]

Wait so leveling up items to level 10 levels up your overall expertise level or am I wrong about that ?

[severe needle]

Is the Regulus rare?

[dull blaze]

yes but currently combat xp is double

So u get 2 xp per item per lvl doing it by combat

[lone valve]

Iron horse raid
So you gotta grind that

[dull blaze]

Instead of 1 by donating

[severe needle]

Is it good?

[lone valve]

Yes

[dull blaze]

Hence why ppl are expertise 20+

[lone valve]

Just realised next week is both the apparel even and the global event at the same time
You'd think they would wanna have a patch ready for next week to fix some of the issues rn

[dull blaze]

You would hope so🫣

[lone valve]

Also I'm guessing the global event won't be active in countdown which is a shame

[warped sandal]

gotta love the subteam in countdown legit just leaving to help the other team

and then do worse than just helping one teammate on one objective

[lone valve]

You'd think people would realise that
There's 3 objectives
If there's another group on the other obj
Go to the other one

[warped sandal]

yep

my sub group straight up went to the other team and take LONGER to do it

[dull blaze]

Has anyone seen somebody with a 20+ upgraded item? I wonder if they actually capped it off there

Cus in that case it wouldnt be all that bad

[warped sandal]

wait expertise 20?

[dull blaze]

Ye

[warped sandal]

who in the goddamn no lifed to expertise 20 on the first week

[dull blaze]

Tons of ppl probably its fast af

If u target loot in countdown u fly up expertise

[cinder cloud]

idk why people are doing the tomb exploit when they know their account is just gonna get rolled back 🤣

[dull blaze]

Cus they won’t get rolled back

Look at how long it already has taken for the current gamebreaking bugs to get fixed, u think they gonna put in any effort into fixing the lvls ppl overgained?

[cinder cloud]

they don't roll your account back for using exploits now?

[fair lake]

There is already a video by Chinese player. He has expertise lvl 30. It's so broken......

[dull blaze]

Its not really an exploit tbh it’s just a farming method

[warped relic]

Imagine if you could use LMG + Shield

[dull blaze]

Floor10 summit has been in the game for ages aswell

[dull blaze]

He must have cheated somehow tho

[cinder cloud]

is that really an exploit though?

well, only time will tell

[lone valve]

It has to get rolled back
Lvl 30 people have an inherent advantage in damage
Over people that are just lvl 20

[dull blaze]

That is if the item upgrades go past 20 rn

[fair lake]

It upgrades. In the video his gun is lvl30

[lone valve]

Cuz this also fucks their plans for every season to lvl up the expertise cap

[cinder cloud]

if i see videos of people crying about getting their stuff rolled back by a month again LOL

[dull blaze]

Everyone will get rolled back then tho cus everyone is exploiting it

[cinder cloud]

not everyone

[jovial agate]

Is the game worth starting now?

[dull blaze]

Yes everyone

[lone valve]

The practice range glitch lmao

[jovial agate]

It’s on sale for 12 bucks and was gonna cop if it’s worth it

[cinder cloud]

believe it or not, a lot of people play without using exploits

[dull blaze]

U didnt lvl up gear by playing the game?

U get double combat xp in expertise

So everyone is gonna end up higher as intended

[lone valve]

This is true
I cba to bore myself playing tombs over and over again

[tender notch]

FYI it is NOT an exploit. it is a bug in their coding that awards more XP from kills then donating gear.

also roll back isnt confirmed but im pretty sure it will happened (at least just expertise roll down to level 20)

[dull blaze]

U got any links that confirm this cus i might aswell go back to donating if they intend to fix it

[fair lake]

Azurmen,
Any news / ideas how this should be patched in a way to avoid masive crying here and there?

[tender notch]

was a tweet from a dev 1 sec.

[dull blaze]

Theres a super easy fix

They gotta make a generic formula that calculates proficiency lvls times xp gained

[tender notch]

https://twitter.com/crazzoo/status/1525493289448792064 look at the reply.

and super easy fix TBH. just a bug and number tweak to fix the code

[lone valve]

He asked for the usernames
UH oh

[fair lake]

Banhammer is coming))))

[cinder cloud]

people didn't learn after the turret scenario 😛

they shouldn't cry this time

[lone valve]

The minigun exploit lmao

[tender notch]

yup, will be so they can look at the code error, nothing about level 30 expertise is an exploit.

[dull blaze]

Well what he did is not his fault now is it

[lone valve]

I remember the shit show that the minigun turret caused 💀

[tender notch]

nah no bans will happened. its just using kill xp to level your gear instead of mainly donating.

[dull blaze]

He just found a method that lvls him to 30

[tender notch]

and the method is "do kill xp and dont donate"

[lone valve]

It's honestly massives fault tbh
Ban wouldn't be the solution here whatsoever

[cinder cloud]

does he really need their names, pretty sure they could just see where people were going to get the exp

[dull blaze]

The guy is lvl 12000 or some shit too

Obviously dedicated player

[lone valve]

That's Alot of resource convoys

[lime fulcrum]

some players are from warhound convoys back in a day.

[dull blaze]

I saw some freak with 37k in my lobby lol

[lone valve]

Didn't the practice range also give absurd amounts of xp back then

[lime fulcrum]

exactly.

[dull blaze]

Shame i missed all that now im stuck grinding floor 10 summit🫣

[lone valve]

Yea there was a shit ton of activities that gave absurd amounts of xp back when wony first came out

I'm like shd 1460
And I bought wony in September 2020

[dull blaze]

Im 1295 i bought it less than 4 weeks ago😝

[tender wave]

could easily have reached 12k shd without any exploits by now anyway, just from playing regularly since WONY

the question will be, if people get their lvl 30 expertise rolled back, what happens to any items they've upgraded all that way, and all the resources they must have put in to upgrade them?

[lone valve]

Now that's a tough question to answer
And a harder solution

[dull blaze]

Gone forever

Theres probably tools to force reset stuff in the game

Or they could make one for sure

[cinder cloud]

the account gets rolled back, probably to the start of the update

[dull blaze]

Ye that wont happen

[vapid light]

Do you guys really think they’ll nerf heartbreaker ?

[cinder cloud]

you sure?

[lone valve]

If they tried that
Watch how that wouldn't even go smoothly

How many problems would that cause

[cinder cloud]

didn't people get their stuff rolled back by a few months for the turret thing

[lone valve]

Might nerf how the ACS works with it

[cinder cloud]

people build striker stacks with it also though

welp

[warped relic]

If you craft say "Mended Markman Mag" and its blue, if you craft another and its Purple. Do you have two mags now or does the higher tier replace the old one???

[tough anvil]

My friend has severe lag issues while playing this. does someone know any fixes?

[tender wave]

in Div 2, all weapon mods have the same quality, there's no variation like blue/purple/gold

[next herald]

Hmm.... Im thinking about building a ridgeways pride hunter fury build

[vapid light]

Should memento be paired with heartbreaker ?

[marble stag]

does anyone know what to do with raven? for technician field research. ive destroyed his ammo pack and killed him but it hasnt given me the stat yet?

[winter elm]

@pulsar eagle yes, i got chameleon from hunter on extraction (target loot was assault rifles)

[warped relic]

activites are like public executions and stuff right?

[azure lintel]

@dull blaze could I grind summit with you?

[keen osprey]

Hostage situation, propaganda broadcast, territory control, supply convoys, elite convoys, black tusk invasion activities etc are under that umbrella.

[lone valve]

Elite territory control aswell

[warped relic]

How does the supply convoy work? I followed the mto the stronghold. they went inside then nothing