td2-general-chat

[brazen elm]

holy shit

[inner crystal]

Make the DZ gear good again ?

[elfin hazel]

new dz types

[opaque lion]

oh nice it's a DZ update, can't wait to not play it lol

[twilit cipher]

protos will drop in pve dz?

[vernal void]

Even if it does hell no i will not go there

[hybrid ore]

Each DZ has a unique icon, based on alternate "rules"

[rigid wedge]

Cheaters and PVP mains are gonna have a field day

Count me out lol

[inner crystal]

How do you cheat in the DZ lol

[hybrid ore]

DZ change to power level within the DZ when different icon, your SHD levels are not applied, neither is Expertise

[midnight epoch]

What does it do?

[hybrid ore]

focused around newer players

[elfin hazel]

DZW icon = normalized DZ pretty much. no shd level and no expertise
DZS icon = normal
DZE icon = pve dark zone (exclusive for s2 maybe)

[kind veldt]

being explained right now

[hybrid ore]

"a softer Dark zone experience"

[twilit cipher]

they trying to get more pvp and pvp not for me

[opaque lion]

cheaters have a different power level that they can't even touch

[polar thorn]

Well, DZ has upcoming update.

Surely they will try to get better anticheat system in the future

[twilit cipher]

yes PVE!

[brazen elm]

pve dz

[hybrid ore]

Green DZ icon = Season 2 specific, may be permanent in the future. PvE DZ

[mighty creek]

WDF PVE DARK ZONE LMAOOO

[hybrid ore]

"a hot topic in the community"

[unique bramble]

THE F-

[vernal void]

Yipeee

[twilit cipher]

DZ protos!

[vernal void]

Screw pvp

[inner crystal]

PVE DZ like how it is in Resurgence?

[polar thorn]

-30% WEAPON HANDLING?

[kind veldt]

resurgence doesnt have PVE DZ

[polar thorn]

my mk46 is about to shoot air, what the hell 😭

[mighty creek]

No, DZ in Resurgence is PvP as usual.

[fallow hearth]

PVE Darkzone is ricidulous before PVP is even addressed

[hybrid ore]

PvE DZ is "not just a PvE DZ, more details later"

[brazen elm]

+100% THREAT GENERATIO- oh wait

[sudden meadow]

People were asking for PVE DZ?

[elfin hazel]

they can work on two things at once

and they've stated they've been working on it

[hybrid ore]

Into the Dark is heavily focused around the PvE Dark Zone area

[rigid wedge]

PVE DZ

More info?

[polar thorn]

Pair it with Agigator

[toxic lily]

PvE Darkzone finally

[mighty crag]

What they talkin about in pts?

[kind veldt]

new DZ types

[polar thorn]

i wonder how PvE Darkzone gonna be

[inner crystal]

How? Unless a player goes rouge it’s not player vs player. I’ve never had a player fight me in the DZ of resurgence

[kind veldt]

one regular, one with SHD and expertise disabled, one PVE for the season

[hybrid ore]

PvP changes incoming, will talk about the new team later

[kind veldt]

doesnt mean the feature is disabled, i heard constantly about bulkwark stunlock PVP

[vernal void]

The dev finally realize the pvp is terrible expwrience overall

[elfin hazel]

this is the same for DZ in div1 & div2

[hybrid ore]

The PvE DZ area will rotate during Season 2.

[polar thorn]

Yup, new AC coming soon.

[fallow hearth]

now they better take away the flag mechanic for PVP DZ

[cursive sphinx]

W update

[brazen elm]

caches in dz shops

[unique bramble]

PvE DZ, those words feel so wrong together

[hybrid ore]

DZ Vendor change: caches being sold

[elfin hazel]

caches added to dz vendor

[opaque lion]

not bad

[mighty crag]

Noice

[cursive sphinx]

Good

[hybrid ore]

DZ vendor change: vendor "refresh".

each vendor will have its own caches

[polar thorn]

Leo is richer than me with DZ currency 😭

[elfin hazel]

reconstructed caches from DZ 🎉

[brazen elm]

proto caches from dz

[hybrid ore]

e.g. "160 DZ currency exo comp cache"

[elfin hazel]

prototype cache for 400 oh heavens

[unique bramble]

He got the 7 DZ credits on the new DZ

[cursive sphinx]

Bruh

[undone timber]

Meanwhile only 5 escalation tokens

[unique bramble]

I hope this component cache doesn't give just 1 like the stretch goals one 😂

[polar thorn]

Alright, back to grinding.

[hybrid ore]

the prototype cache cost at the DZ vendor is entirely random, guaranteed to be a "high roll"

[cursive sphinx]

Oh deer

[hybrid ore]

cost in flux for proto DZ cache

[mighty crag]

Hmmmm

[brazen elm]

we're gonna kill each other over dz credits yay

[unique bramble]

What about the taxes?

[hybrid ore]

Bonus DZ coins gained from "normalised dz", not the PvE DZ.

[elfin hazel]

the world is healing

[short axle]

I've been waiting to deal with the toxic dz again

[brazen elm]

guess it's time to build cs nbb

[short axle]

Got my bighorn ready 🤠

[vernal void]

Nah i am good. I just get everything from pve

[cursive sphinx]

Fax

[unique bramble]

Did they mention the server player cap (12) or it will remain the same about the new DZs count?

[sudden meadow]

Actually want to try out the scaled DZ

[elfin hazel]

global modifier

[short axle]

Lame

[hybrid ore]

"cleaning up the streets" Global Modifier for Into the Dark

"hyenas are doing some SHDy things"

[brazen elm]

RoF AND mag size??

[rigid wedge]

so..I have to play DZ to level it up

[frosty wadi]

🐳

[vernal void]

Escalation mode itself is already a pretty toxic mode.

[hybrid ore]

you need to extract "sample cannisters" in the DZ to increase your "milestones"

[brazen elm]

the pve dz

[mighty crag]

50% rate of fire gimmieeeeee

[cursive sphinx]

Fax. We done with escalation

[unique bramble]

I work at a drugstore, now I need to collect medications in game too?

[hybrid ore]

miletones do not reset, its personal progress based

[rigid wedge]

okay that i can handle

[frosty wadi]

Interested to hear how pve dz works

[cursive sphinx]

Pve DZ here i come!

[hybrid ore]

Patch Notes are coming TOMORROW, not tonight

[mighty crag]

Rogue agents probably be random

[short axle]

Pve dz is so corny. That was the whole point 😂

[brave idol]

they are offering more innocent blood to dark zone sharks

[elfin hazel]

broken wip menu for trading in season currency

[brave idol]

offering more incentives to dark zone wihtout fixing the issues is a terrible decision

[brazen elm]

it's to learn the map

[hybrid ore]

menu is super early build, don't worry

[brazen elm]

im hoping anticheat is part of it

[unique bramble]

What next? GTA online passive mode?

[elfin hazel]

I would imagine so

[cursive sphinx]

Did they address the prototype core gambling prices?

[vernal void]

No anti cheat has really stop the cheater to date.

[frosty wadi]

Drip where did your adorable sona art go I miss it

[short axle]

Don't get me wrong I dig the whole opening the game to everyone but the suspense of the dz was incredible when div1 came out. Honestly div 2 didn't capture that feeling with the smaller lobbies regardless so for me it's just a complaint

[hybrid ore]

PvP changes: Anti cheat news incoming

[kind veldt]

they focused on mathcmaking and tokens so far, recals later

[brazen elm]

speak of the devil

[elfin hazel]

im scagmaxxing for the moment

[polar thorn]

Ez guess

[frosty wadi]

Real

[hybrid ore]

Anti-cheat has a dedicated team working ONLY on it

[elfin hazel]

but all those pvp players told me they don't exist

[umbral dock]

yeah a week ago on twitter they said “lol 25 is already generous”

[short axle]

Yeah I'm sure cheating is abysmal in dz for PC players

[polar thorn]

They are making big changes for PVP/PvE Darkzones, should be reasonable to spend money/time on new AC system

[hybrid ore]

Manual or Automatic testing is undergoing, "headshot detection" etc

[short axle]

I fear the cross play for the next installment lol

[inner crystal]

Are those permanent bonuses just for DZ play ?

Like
Magazine size

[cursive sphinx]

No way 💔💔

[mighty crag]

The servers will take a dump on day 1.

[brazen elm]

Just for the season

[unique bramble]

Okay SONY, I will give you the next plus month money just for this div update

[inner crystal]

Gotcha thanks

[elfin hazel]

since it's the global modifier I would doubt it

[sudden meadow]

seems like general progression buffs for entire season

[short axle]

As was foretold in the prophecy

[hybrid ore]

"lag switchers are the major focus of the anti-cheat team right now

[vernal void]

I am going serious doubts that anti cheat they are making is actually ro last that long.

[rigid wedge]

PVP Anti Cheat or just the anti cheat itself wut

[inner crystal]

Watching at work I thought he redeemed a canister for that bonus

[unique bramble]

We are so back

[cursive sphinx]

I haven’t ran into a lag switcher in yearsss

[midnight epoch]

Have you ever seen a Destiny DLC Launch day? 🤐

[rigid wedge]

Hell yeah

[polar thorn]

Cheaters are punching air rn

[mighty crag]

Yup i quit wasting my time lol

[brazen elm]

the [title card] modifier

[short axle]

Poor husk of a company

[elfin hazel]

active modifiers TOO MUCH TEXT !

[mint aspen]

What’s the point of a pve dz genuinely asking

[unique bramble]

Kitsunebi 2.0 all over again, get ready

[frosty wadi]

Final shape release was a struggle for me

[short axle]

I said the same thing. Just a way to open more content without creating it for those who don't partake tbh

[brave idol]

it will be empty as there are no inceties to go there. the real dark zone has all the incentives

[polar thorn]

Agent's worst nightmare :

[brazen elm]

active modifiers consume sample canisters

[mighty crag]

Server slam gonna be unplayable

[unique bramble]

For players that think that the LZ is too bright so they can relax on DZ because it's darker.

[mint aspen]

😭

[opaque lion]

i mean i still don't even understand much of how the current season works

[gloomy latch]

is it me or my event pass not progressing 💀

[midnight epoch]

This game has seasons?

[kind veldt]

they added new caches for DZ vendors inclduing exotics

[brave idol]

Twitch drops are on, people if you are interested

[mint aspen]

It’s just any other part of the map but dc-62 on the floor 😭

[opaque lion]

Today is Year 8 Season 1

[unique bramble]

And battle pass, and server always connection

[opaque lion]

the Balatro mode

[hybrid ore]

PvE DZ is the main focus of the upcoming Season, will need to extract items within to max out your modifiers

[sudden meadow]

season 2, but yeah

[midnight epoch]

Does it do anything or is it just a fun way of naming Patch 8.1?

[dusk trench]

title card

[brazen elm]

[title card]

[opaque lion]

Like S1 and S2 has different seasonal modifiers

[twilit cipher]

seems focus on dz but u dont get protos from there so whats point to it?

[unique bramble]

Now I'm curious about having more exotic components caches (only components)

[elfin hazel]

we're farrrrrrrrrr past patch 8.1

[cinder nacelle]

I don't either and I don't think I can be bothered to learn for something that only lasts a few weeks. It's something to do with cores I think.

[mint aspen]

If there is nothing tied to rogues in this DZ then seriously what’s the point

[vernal void]

X to doubt

[midnight epoch]

So the seasons are just when they make normal updates and some random modifiers?

[elfin hazel]

passive modifiers

[hybrid ore]

"simpler than Rise Up"

[unique bramble]

They stopped naming updates by patch. Now it's year and season.

[opaque lion]

there are permanent changes but there's also ones that are exclusive to that season

[kind veldt]

not sure why you are pretending you didnt play the game enough to know that

[hybrid ore]

"Direction for passive modifiers this upcoming season was Yannick telling them that they aren't allowed to do 34"

[rigid wedge]

lol

[umbral dock]

Twenty five bombaclaat percent DTOOC????

[midnight epoch]

I have been playing for 2 months and just found out last week how to turn on my Shade watch buffs

[elfin hazel]

hostile modifiers

[short axle]

A 2 month player being named John Lexington the irony isn't lost on me. Gold.

[unique bramble]

Drib is a screenshoter, nice!

[elfin hazel]

toxicity bar

leo is turning green

[vernal void]

Passive mods are kind of whatever, they are temporary buffa.

[unique bramble]

Reversed pestilence? Wait, that's illegal.

[twilit cipher]

dz seems pointless becuz u cant get anything usefull

[umbral dock]

imagine folie a deux on a chungus

guh

[elfin hazel]

that is usually how passive mods are

[opaque lion]

Cheese Touch mode

[unique bramble]

Kinda it's, blame the reconstructed blueprints.

[brazen elm]

running coyote and chatterbox for maximum stink gas

[elfin hazel]

you are the greenest person EVER!

[midnight epoch]

Not my fault it’s the best

[toxic lily]

So.... in conclusion, next season is taking out Hyenas last Council

[short axle]

The reason it's ironic isn't for any other reason than it was a legacy reward once upon a time.

[brave idol]

pvp dark zone has high end protos though. not sure exotic caches is a great incentive at this point where you can get in many ways

[hybrid ore]

In the PvE DZ, the environment and NPC's can both kill you

[rigid wedge]

Into The Dark

Introducing The Cheese Touch Mode

[midnight epoch]

Hollow man
Gift
Sacrifice
Raid exotics
🤐

[short axle]

Raid exotics can be crafted for pocket lint

[brave idol]

even less chance than named cachs

[opaque lion]

you can get all those from Named Caches, Retaliation gives Raid exotics blueprints

[brazen elm]

his build is syscor, elmo, catharsis

[undone timber]

Ehh you can get all these elsewhere now

[brave idol]

people think that dark zone spitting out dark zone exclusives. no, it is extremely rare

[twilit cipher]

farming Escalation for protos is hard work for low skilled players like me

[umbral dock]

The hyenas are the ones doing all this in the dark zone, though? Not the outcasts?

Are we sure about that?

[undone timber]

There truly is no reason to go there if not to dunk on random players

[midnight epoch]

No, we are hoping they fix drop rates 🫨

[cinder nacelle]

A Dark Zone without PVP is just... the basic open world isn't it?

[hybrid ore]

No.

[brazen elm]

dz credits for the new caches

[opaque lion]

so Stalker...

[frosty wadi]

Why is bro using system corruption?

[kind veldt]

well they are adding the seasonal mechanics and you can interact with other players without joining a group

[elfin hazel]

dev server build

[short axle]

Flex

[undone timber]

People beg for a PvE DZ and people still complain 😭

[unique bramble]

How, the dogs will start biting the player?

[kind veldt]

which is something kinda wanted seince release

[umbral dock]

The Dim Zone

[frosty wadi]

Yea but still strange, maybe sys core build buff/changes?

[short axle]

Spoopy

[umbral dock]

The Slightly Overcast Zone

[hybrid ore]

PvE DZ is not just the regular DZ without PvP

[brazen elm]

different people complaining and asking for it

[midnight epoch]

They KNEW

[short axle]

The SHD zone

[twilit cipher]

add protos to DZ an ill go there!

[unique bramble]

Why I have a feeling they are hiding a hunter in this no pvp DZ?

[opaque stump]

the twilight zone

[elfin hazel]

you can get caches with higher rolls from one of the vendors

[brave idol]

they are re-purposing one dark zone. that is a great idea, tbh.

[brazen elm]

proto caches from dz shop

[umbral dock]

create prototype system, incentivizing people to do expertise

next season is dark zone where expertise is standardized

Masterful play Massive, i kneel

[unique bramble]

The illuminated zone

[elfin hazel]

only one of them

[brave idol]

proto is in the real dark zone not in the pve one if i understand correctly

[sudden meadow]

lol why didn't they get some b-roll footage instead of someone clearing the new DZ. Makin Leo Struggle

[twilit cipher]

@brazen elm u can get them? im very clueless due to irl learning disabiltys

[unique bramble]

They did that with conflict a while back because people asked it

[twilit cipher]

games sooo complex !

[versed axle]

Any news on getting caduceus?

[brazen elm]

-30 reload speed and -30 weapon handling is rough

[elfin hazel]

not yet

[hybrid ore]

as you raise your toxicity, you will get stronger debuffs

[midnight epoch]

Pending

[unique bramble]

Just like real life

[brave idol]

bruh you haven been working on the game forever and you play like a newbie

[brazen elm]

trading pvp toxicity for hyena toxicity

[stray bronze]

I am sorry. They did not cook.

[rigid wedge]

So to get rid of the toxicity

I have to leave the DZ. wut

[versed axle]

Well the new event is live rn

[elfin hazel]

the other type of gear.......

[brazen elm]

well yeah, they spend more time working on it than actually playing it

[hybrid ore]

gear changes incoming

[frosty wadi]

Dude its not out yet we wont know how the mode will feel yet

[elfin hazel]

I'm scared

[umbral dock]

The “Screw your frenzy LMG” season

[unique bramble]

Honestly this phrase should be in the rules

[elfin hazel]

big pvp update

allllll the changes ever and everrr

[brazen elm]

isac enhance

[sudden meadow]

ZOOM, ENHANCE

[umbral dock]

well i guess that’s why patch notes are delayed holy crap

[brave idol]

strikers debuff one time dealer

[rigid wedge]

Massive: we are nerfing everything

[unique bramble]

He saw the community gear sheet 👀

[opaque lion]

ENHANCE

[stray bronze]

TIME FOR ALL GOOD GUNS TO BE NERFED

[kind veldt]

PVP STATS, JUST FOR PVP PEOPLE

[unique bramble]

ANNA, upscale it now!

[toxic lily]

meme potential

[brave idol]

skill builds are the op now in pvp

[toxic lily]

download it and make any meme with that picture lol

[rigid wedge]

Jarvis, Ehance image.

[elfin hazel]

new(?) sys corruption stats

[unique bramble]

Man, I'm gonna turn those paper green/PNG.

[hybrid ore]

PvP balance phases are "massive"

[undone timber]

Bruh

[elfin hazel]

around 350 closer to 400 to talent changes for pvp

[hybrid ore]

"350+ talent changes for PvP"

[elfin hazel]

guys I was told they would never did the pvp community lie to me.........

[frosty wadi]

What changed?

[undone timber]

They just tweaked some numbers slightly and called it a day😭

[elfin hazel]

multi-phased updates to pvp

[undone timber]

Lowered duration longer cooldown stronger bonus

[sudden meadow]

oh boy. Expecting alot of issues with so many changes.

[unique bramble]

I--... You know what? It's fine 🥲

[midnight epoch]

Added 0s to everything

[elfin hazel]

its not all at once

[brazen elm]

the sheet people are gonna suffer

[brave idol]

had to happen sometime

[elfin hazel]

very naughty things are getting changed

tinkerer GONE

no more in pvp for now*

[opaque lion]

they can just do THAT?

[midnight epoch]

Unintended Bug:
the PvP updates have now been applied to PvE where you are not in open world.

[brave idol]

lingerie and bras ?

[rigid wedge]

OOF

[elfin hazel]

determined in pvp is being fixed its going to work as perfect determined

[brazen elm]

CADUCEUS

[brave idol]

do you even pvp bro?

[opaque lion]

Cadecus is there

[kind veldt]

there you go people

[elfin hazel]

scary unknown thing

[sudden meadow]

sweet sweet caduceus

[covert estuary]

Omg it got skin slot

[brave idol]

dark zone exclusive?

[elfin hazel]

leo hover over it

I MISSED IT

[unique bramble]

Why it has the agitator symbol 🤨

[toxic flume]

Wait what, PvE DZ 👀

massive PvP balancing

[opaque lion]

early build

[rigid wedge]

GET OFF THE VECTOR

[opaque lion]

we don't even have logos for the seasonal modifiers yet

and it's gone

[elfin hazel]

elmo changed stats in pvp

[toxic lily]

my first exotic in Div 1.... omg

[sharp reef]

interesting because honestly i never see elmo used for pvp anymore lol

[sudden meadow]

so 7 shock rounds?

[toxic flume]

7 rounds

[umbral dock]

‘ Ortiz : Exuro: Now does purple flame ‘

[unique bramble]

Please don't massacre our CADUCEUS like Final measure

[hybrid ore]

Caduceus info incoming

[celest maple]

my elmo still ain’t touched for pve🙏🙏

[elfin hazel]

flavour text

[rigid wedge]

finally

[brazen elm]

new gearset, CS placeholder icons

[celest maple]

season 2 weapon damnn

[elfin hazel]

caduceus talent

[sudden meadow]

Woah

[toxic flume]

O shi, it’s back 👀

[hybrid ore]

Caduc is a "season 2 weapon". Will not drop as a part of the Brooklyn Event

[toxic lily]

woah

[kind veldt]

welp, its' just a crit weapon

[brazen elm]

healing you AND your team holy

[opaque stump]

🤤

[umbral dock]

Red healer is real

[celest maple]

holy shit that’s good asf

[hybrid ore]

Numbers for Caduc are set to change

[toxic flume]

That’s mean

[opaque stump]

it should scale off skill in some way

[toxic lily]

its a healing build

[unique bramble]

Hell yeah, let me grab my Negotiator!

[brazen elm]

new talent

[rigid wedge]

Crit hit chance and damage is gonna go hard

[elfin hazel]

NOT THE CLIMAX EXOTIC

[toxic lily]

while shooting enemies

[umbral dock]

lmao

[sudden meadow]

so crit instead of just doing damage. That's not as good, just .5 % higher

[dusk trench]

"Leave it to the US Military to confuse the Caduceus with the rod of Aspecius" - flavor text

[opaque stump]

thank god that overlooked build is finally getting some love.

[rigid wedge]

NO. PLEASE DON'T TELL US ITS A CLIMAX EXOTIC

[elfin hazel]

climax exo will not be on the pts

[dusk trench]

i like how they addressed that lmao

[brave idol]

good to see devs investing this much in the game tbh

[brazen elm]

headscratcher : 30 amp to confused, confuse after 4 kills

[elfin hazel]

new talent "head scratcher" for confused damage

[sudden meadow]

sick, TBD talent lol

[unique bramble]

GTA 6 will come before Caduceus

[opaque lion]

my favorite talent, TBD

[dusk trench]

so they're really doing the "amped damage to status effect" for every status effect now

[toxic flume]

Ehhh

[celest maple]

TBD goes hard as a talent

[dusk trench]

waiting for foam and poison

[elfin hazel]

new gear set

[umbral dock]

massive making caduceus a crit weapon like the final nail in the skill coffin

[opaque lion]

ORANP?

[toxic lily]

gear set called TBD as well. i think i have TBD seeing this lol

[hybrid ore]

can no longer use "ortiz" as shorthand for ortiz exuro.

[brazen elm]

exuro and reficere

[umbral dock]

Another healer set? Okay.

[elfin hazel]

new brandset

[toxic flume]

I don’t wanna see foam. Your gonna make PvP so much worse than now 😭

[hybrid ore]

Edelweiss

[celest maple]

lowkey might make a healing build

[elfin hazel]

new chest benefactor from the new brandset

[toxic flume]

Finna go hard on my FI

[undone timber]

New gear set doesn't look very good tbh

[opaque lion]

Oh boy Perfect Empathic Resolve

[kind veldt]

they already did them

[dusk trench]

oh yeah i forgot about foam, just missing poison then

[elfin hazel]

backpack momma badger with safeguard

[brazen elm]

new exotic: nurse's kneepads

[brave idol]

they kep throwing skill sets and hoping one sticks

[elfin hazel]

new exotic knees

[celest maple]

new exotic knee pad

[sudden meadow]

hoh, we're getting healer season bois

[unique bramble]

Don't we already have perfect safeguard or I'm crazy.

[elfin hazel]

insert comment about thing being useless and scrap

[brazen elm]

New backfire hazpro build just dropped

[umbral dock]

what? why?

[toxic lily]

Healer season

[spare cove]

Healer season, you say?

[elfin hazel]

I think so

[opaque lion]

wait isn't that just a Backfire kneepad

[brave idol]

so looks like there will be a pve dark zone build

[toxic flume]

That’s means you only get haz pro when allies near or all the time by yourself 🤔

[sudden meadow]

work in progress

[toxic lily]

cause rarely anyone using healer unless its a group play

[kind veldt]

placeholder icons and names

[opaque lion]

red cores with a free HazPro

[fair scaffold]

what do you mean i can't do a bajillion damage with this set smh my head!!!11!

[unique bramble]

Beacon 2.0 but hazard protection

[brazen elm]

you and allies within 10m

[hybrid ore]

HazPro is implied to maybe help with Toxicity

[kind veldt]

well kneepad exotics are not that competitive

[umbral dock]

Are we missing something about hazpro and the pvedz toxicity?

oh there it is

[sudden meadow]

in terms of headscratcher talent, that should work with Banshees yeah?

[opaque lion]

it might as well become instantly the best exo kneepads

[unique bramble]

Hi, my name is Ninja Bike brand and this is my friend: Acosta brand.

[toxic flume]

I’m talking about by yourself. Means it won’t proc right? *Unless an ally is within 10m from you

[sudden meadow]

oh, and bluescreen

[elfin hazel]

"like 28 pages"

[opaque lion]

28 pages

[toxic flume]

If so, you cant use it solo

[opaque lion]

RELEASE THE FILES

[elfin hazel]

tommorow

[brazen elm]

it should, if it needed an ally it'd be something like "when an ally is within 10m of you"

[high river]

who will be the one to read everything

[pliant sentinel]

RELEASE THE INTO THE DARK FILES

[celest maple]

RELEASE THE DIVISION FILES

[rigid wedge]

RELEASE THE FILES

[toxic lily]

Leo showing some Divison files

[toxic flume]

Never mind, you don’t understand

[opaque lion]

every youtuber under the sun is gonna make a 1 hour video tomorrow

[unique bramble]

Leo is gonna have a looong chat with us

[celest maple]

tomorrow? you mean today

[dusk trench]

the toxicity of our dark zone, of our dark zone

[fair scaffold]

chat, can we talk about how much ink was wasted on that black/grey background

[hybrid ore]

Folks, do not make the joke you are wanting to make about files.
We will remove anyone who brings it up directly.

[high river]

the 2 clans running conflict are very excited about the news

[umbral dock]

how on earth are you interpreting this as requiring allies nearby to proc

[unique bramble]

The SHD island 🫢

[celest maple]

🥾

[toxic flume]

Thank you for a better answer

[hybrid ore]

And the first mute of the stream.

[celest maple]

should’ve said what’s the shape of italy 💔

[topaz vine]

ROGUE AGENT DETECT!

[rigid wedge]

ngl idk how i feel about this season

[toxic flume]

Meaning it’s worthless as a solo player

[hybrid ore]

Honestly impressed, people behaving today.

[celest maple]

healing build all season 2🗣️

[sudden meadow]

No, it's basically an aura talent

[high river]

the twitch chat wasn't so behaved

[broken sage]

Escalation match making is pure awful.

Either no one joins or no invites.

Or people have no patience to wait 2 mins for people…….

[opaque lion]

the new gears are interesting, the new seasonal gimmick idk

[umbral dock]

this season is a good reminder that i need to grind out BT retals and get the blueprints

[elfin hazel]

more players in DZ = harder enemies

[sudden meadow]

the hazpro aura affects you regardless of any allies nearby

[brazen elm]

solo 12 player scaling dz

[high river]

the new season is probably a test for survival, aka toxicity modifier

[undone timber]

Use the Xbox LFG dash

[kind veldt]

scalling the DZ on the number of players

[hybrid ore]

dynamic scaling per players in the PvE DZ

[elfin hazel]

hunters spawn at extraction in pve dz

[pliant sentinel]

HUNTERS

[high river]

meaning it'll be empty the moment striker gets into an escalation mission

[fluid meadow]

pve dz?

[broken sage]

That’s even worse, not a single English LFG on it.

Only English ones are new players

[rigid wedge]

OH NO.

[toxic lily]

YES

[hybrid ore]

Hunters will spawn at PvE DZ extraction

[celest maple]

more hunters 😫😫

[pliant sentinel]

HUNTERS AT EXTRACTION

[high river]

ah so survival again

[rigid wedge]

OH NO

[toxic lily]

YES!!!

[elfin hazel]

guys this isn't sounding like just open world to me

[high river]

except we have builds this time lol

[rigid wedge]

Survival 2.0 baby here we go

[celest maple]

they cooking

[hybrid ore]

The amount of players at extraction will scale the amount of Hunters that are there, also scaling their health/damage.

[pliant sentinel]

13 HUNTERS

[brave idol]

PFE rules agani

[rigid wedge]

13 HUNTERS TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

[sudden meadow]

there's gonna be like 12 hunters at extract. I can see people griefing with that

[rose jolt]

Caduceus scaling with crit damage is a bad idea for build diversity.. it will push meta crit damage builds more and effectively kill off healers.. full group running striker with it no need for a healer

[hybrid ore]

"i hope we dont crash the entire game with this, but it looks exciting"

[umbral dock]

can you force a solo instance? are you at the mercy of whoever wants to extract?

[fluid meadow]

is there a replay of the stream i can find?

[celest maple]

all the players bouta gather just to spawn 10+ hunters

[high river]

running into extractions will be the new trolling sabotage method

[elfin hazel]

vod will go up after

[brave idol]

@edgy fable time to shine that PFE gear

[rigid wedge]

The loot is gonna be insane or a horrible plan

[elfin hazel]

preload starts today patch notes tommorow

[umbral dock]

13 angry hunters in the showers at DZ east

[undone timber]

A healers main job is to debuff which Caduceus doesn't do, it's not taking over

[hybrid ore]

preload starts today, PTS launches tomorrow

[brazen elm]

seems more like it'll make dps-healer hybrids, and dedicated healers are still better, plus the talent is still temporary

[opaque stump]

strikers with Caduceus will be the best healer/dps/tank build in the game.

[elfin hazel]

the discord mentioned

500000 new members just spawned in

[brazen elm]

spongebob point at tv.png

[sudden meadow]

For sure, I don't understand why they're focusing it on crit when most healer builds are going skill repair and haste. It's like they're pushing it towards red builds.

[hybrid ore]

oh no, my free time

[pliant sentinel]

rivenssss

[lunar hare]

lmfao

[brazen elm]

it's still subject to changes

[sharp reef]

all roads lead to red builds

[undone timber]

That was how it worked originally so

[rose jolt]

hope it changes to scale with repair builds at least if u wanna be a hyberd u can stack crit and repair

[hybrid ore]

Stream is OVER

[undone timber]

Well it was based on skill power but we don't have that anymore

[kind veldt]

the healing of caduceus should scale with skill tiers to balance things out

[opaque lion]

i thought it was gonna be longer

[fallow idol]

Thanks

[sudden meadow]

No, original just procced on damage, not crit

[rose jolt]

we have repair skills

[opaque stump]

having to aim your little chem launcher is not as effective as healing the whole team for 20k per shot on a 60 round magazine.

[sharp reef]

are they actually removing shd watch stats from the dz?

[wet shuttle]

i missed it but when can we preload

[dusk trench]

okay i wanna see people hop into the PTS just for the 12 hunter madness

[elfin hazel]

sometime today

[kind veldt]

from one of the DZs

[dusk trench]

from a certain zone, removing both shd level and expertise

it will rotate alongside the regular and pve dz

[high river]

the one that has the conflict logo

[sudden meadow]

or am I misremembering?

[sharp reef]

weird

[undone timber]

"Each Critical hit heals you and your group for 1% of the users Skill Power."

[fallow idol]

Y8S2: Into the Unplayable

[high river]

the dz with the conflict logo will have no shd lvls

[wet shuttle]

@elfin hazel will it get posted in server announcments sorry this will be my first pts

[elfin hazel]

yes

[rigid wedge]

I wish proto was effected by PVE Darkzone.. but eh

[midnight epoch]

Do we have a date for when these updates should be live?

[sudden meadow]

ah okay, so it was still crit, but scaled on skill power.

[opaque stump]

the original was 1% of users skill power per critical hit.

[elfin hazel]

and there will be a dedicated forum channel for it

[wet shuttle]

thank you

[dusk trench]

tomorrow

[umbral dock]

guy sweating meme using fi healer with chem and repair hive and btsu gloves vs guy happy meme using negotiator’s and caduceus

[midnight epoch]

For the test server or the whole game?

[sharp reef]

don’t see the point in removing shd watch stats because of the shd brackets, but expertise removal is amazing

[rose jolt]

should be every crit heals for 10% of repair skills or something

[sudden meadow]

then this one might actually be way worse then since there's no skill power/tier scaling

[dull cypress]

they should release those PVP files early so people can get to tinkering

[fallow idol]

Y8S3 will be solely based around conflict. lol

[sudden meadow]

while still requiring crit mods

[kind veldt]

when this season end rougly, tomorrow is for testing

[opaque stump]

no it scales off your gun damage. At least in div 1 you had to make an electronics build to get the most out of it. now its just spammable for every red assault rifle build.

[kind veldt]

well PTS is there to give feedback

i'm headscrating over that, and not talking about the new talent

[ivory tulip]

Missed the PTS stream, was crossplay mentioned for next season?

[brazen elm]

nego spread damage isn't crit hits right

[opaque stump]

"its complex" is pretty much all they said.

[fervent sierra]

Kinda glad this one is ending although I enjoy the cherry blossom/ Ronin event

[fallow idol]

No, never happening.

[rose jolt]

pts will not change anything drastic.. I feel it will be the same

[fervent sierra]

Minus core strength everything else has been pretty mic

[sudden meadow]

makes sense, then it's definitely just a red build weapon

[lunar hare]

"never happening" sure buddy

[ivory tulip]

How are they going to announce it, and then say it’s never happening?

That’s quite the big announcement to go back on

[umbral dock]

he’s lying

[vernal void]

Caduceus would be great for dps healer concept that i have trying make but how the hell will fit the birdie backpack though.

[brazen elm]

dev stream:"we're working on it it's just complex" vs this guy

[dapper axle]

yo where can i find a clan im kinda active and just need a clan

[toxic lily]

i guess they needed more time for crossplay to implement it

[fallow idol]

They said they want to concentrate on more useless features/events/seasons instead

[small spear]

nope, just damage

[umbral dock]

what they said is cross play is super complex and there are a ton of edge cases they have to nail down

coming eventually but not next season

[undone timber]

#td2-clan-recruitment

[dapper axle]

thank you

[lunar hare]

Attention seeker Final Boss fight 👆

[ivory tulip]

I don’t understand why they bothered to announce it months ago, definitely way too early

[fervent sierra]

Cross play will happen in the division 2 it just a bit complicated and not as simple as enabling it it'll likely be the season after or whatever

[hybrid ore]

We are getting crossplatform clan joining along with it, which brings "a host of issues" too. So just give it time, it'll be here eventually.

[sudden meadow]

I wonder if it has an internal cd, cause 1.5% of 1 mill damage per bullet would make you practically unkillable outside oneshots

[fierce cedar]

What 😂

[ivory tulip]

I’m fully aware, I was under the assumption for 7 years I’d never get to play with my Xbox buddies, now it’s just being dangled in front of my face for the next year lol

[sudden meadow]

maybe I'm just overestimating the amount of healing. I'll have to test it out in PTS

[ivory tulip]

So was they’re actually anything interesting they showed off for next season, aside from escalation this one seemed incredibly filler

[hybrid ore]

Did you miss half of it?

[vernal void]

My build will be more focus on heal like with core strength to make up weapon damage and to provide on demand burst heal and revives. I just need to do enough damage

[sudden meadow]

New DZ types: scaled and pve dz

[verbal gale]

I wonder if you’ll be able to purge your toxicity in the PvEDZ

[hybrid ore]

hunters at the PvE DZ extraction, that scale with group size in damage and health, and total number.

[brazen elm]

you can, just go back to the entrances

[ivory tulip]

So is this an entirely reworked DZ for this? If so thank god, DZ definitely needed some polishing

[brazen elm]

imagine toxicity(the game mechanic) in the pvp dzs tho

[hybrid ore]

350+ PvP gear stat changes incoming, skills, attributes, etc coming at a later date.

oh and one of the DZ's is going to entirely remove your SHD Watch+expertise.

[ivory tulip]

I’m not one for PvP but I can only imagine it was definitely needed

[midnight epoch]

What’s the base weapon archetype/model for Caduceus in D1?

[brazen elm]

i feel like that's everything with a talent

[hybrid ore]

Good eye.

[dusk trench]

New caches in DZ vendor:

• East: recalibration (90), optimization (130)
• West: exotic component (160), reconstructed (320)
• South: proto core (170), proto gear (400)

[merry sphinx]

SCAR-L.

[golden raptor]

Scar L I think

[hybrid ore]

prices are subject to change, of course.

[dapper axle]

is this a map expansion or changing how the game currently is

[dusk trench]

It's gonna rotate between the three DZs

[hybrid ore]

You can't really "expand" the DZ map, as that's where the game ends, and the rest is a different zone.

[dapper axle]

oh damn

[brazen elm]

nah it's basically just using the dz maps for pve content

[brave idol]

will pve darkzone give the same dark zone comms as pvp ones?

[dapper axle]

thats a good idea tbf

[hybrid ore]

a brand new DZ zone in a new map is the only option to add more. Maybe part of Central Park, but I doubt it.

[hybrid ore]

Well you're still inside the DZ, so I don't see why not.
but you won't get any of the "player kill" ones.

[dapper axle]

wait you wont be able to pvp in the pve dark zones?

[brave idol]

if that is the case it does not matter where vendor is, we can still get the proto cache

[fluid meadow]

??? What's the point of brackets then

[brave idol]

hence the name

[brazen elm]

could be out of rotation

[golden raptor]

You’re right it should of been just expertise removed

[fluid meadow]

Also it's just shit cause you gotta re-do your crit stats and/or any other breakpoints

[dapper axle]

so whats the point in adding the content to the pvp zone if it removes pvp? just add it to the already existing pve area

[fluid meadow]

Just keep watch and remove expertise how hard is that

[elfin hazel]

it gives way more dz credits

[brazen elm]

it still applies in the regular dz

[brave idol]

well you get all the stuff in dark zone without pvp.

[hybrid ore]

Yeah there's a 200% buff to DZ credits in the "no watch/expertise" one.

[dapper axle]

that sucks

[brazen elm]

wonder if the regular DZ gets a buff too

[fluid meadow]

Not my point i don't want to make 2 builds of the same build just with crit chance over crit damage on a couple of them

[kind veldt]

ther are different flavours of DZ, adjusted to different people

[brave idol]

lol not for us

[dapper axle]

removes the purpose of the dark zone

[hybrid ore]

All PvP stats are being reworked anyway.
350+ talent changes.

[kind veldt]

then play the DZ you like more?

[brave idol]

there ar estill dark zones you can pvp

[brazen elm]

there are 3 of them. they will rotate.

[hybrid ore]

skill/attribute PvP changes coming later on, Talents only for now.

[kind veldt]

if you like SHD, expertise and other bonus to get the edge, play in the regular DZ, if you dont like them, play hte other DZ

[dapper axle]

I prefer pve so idm it but from a game design perspective this is poor design

[hybrid ore]

this is a BIG update.

@dapper axle It's not just the DZ without PvP.

[fluid meadow]

Limited to 1 pvp dz is bad anyway the areas are way too small and player count will definitely skew towards the pve one

[brazen elm]

well it's just for the season

[hybrid ore]

@fluid meadow It's 2, only 1 DZ is PvE.

[elfin hazel]

theres 2 pvp zones

[fluid meadow]

I thought it would be the invaded

[kind veldt]

yet we had a bunch of people saying that PVE DZ is going to be dead empty and everyone will be in the regular one, different people think different things

[dapper axle]

having a pve darkzone is still bad game design

[hybrid ore]

@dapper axle 🤦‍♀️

[dapper axle]

it is 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid ore]

It's terrible if you ignore everything else about it and just assume it's an empty zone.

cake is bad if you just eat the flour.

[dapper axle]

from what i assume its just dark zone but you cant fight other players

[brave idol]

it is a great idea. dark zones were barren anyway.

[elfin hazel]

game designers seem to disagree

[fluid meadow]

It will have players just not the dz kind
Pvp is kinda the whole identity of the dz if you hover over the areas on the map and read the description 😭

[kind veldt]

did you see the seasonal modifier and changes from the stream?

[hybrid ore]

Yep there it is, knew that was the case.
It's not just a no PvP DZ.

[dapper axle]

no i am just going off of what has been said in chat

[steep flume]

Wheres patch notes

[fluid meadow]

Abusing the lack surveillance to engage in nefarious acts
Nah 12 hunters instead

[elfin hazel]

coming tommorow

[brazen elm]

it's giving people that don't usually go to dz a reason to go there

[dapper axle]

whats the reason

[kind veldt]

thats why they are making multiple changes to talents and other aspects of the DZ so everyone can have their own DZ

[broken sage]

Bruh. 3 escalations today.

Not a single prototype piece

[hybrid ore]

It's also not just the regular DZ without PvP. It's quite different.

[brazen elm]

12 negos

[dapper axle]

what changes

[steep flume]

Thats dumb again catering to pvers that wanna pvp cuz they spent 6 years of the game pve

[elfin hazel]

I think basing a season around the dark zone should cater to more players actually

[kind veldt]

seasonal modifiers, the PVE one will have toxicity created by hyenas that will slowly poison you while you try to farm for the seasonal objectives

[hybrid ore]

They started the game late I guess.

[brazen elm]

ah well, it's just seasonal unless people like it so much they keep it in

[dapper axle]

oh

[elfin hazel]

BOLD TAKE pve players (the majority) shouldn't be left out of seasonal content

[brave idol]

far from that,. pve players dont want to pvp. pvp players want them to try so they get ez kills

[kind veldt]

it wasnt just a switch of PVP off and do nothing

[dapper axle]

or players should just play both gamemodes

[torn wagon]

is there a summary of stream somewhere?

[lyric egret]

ubi conect down?

[kind veldt]

not yet

[brazen elm]

just treat pvedz as an entirely new mode that happens to use the dz maps

[lyric pumice]

My ubi connect is down

[elfin hazel]

new players should not be forced to deal with gank squads and meta minimaxers if they don't want to

[dapper axle]

that could be cool but just taking a zone off of pvp entirely seems stupid

[kind veldt]

Patchnotes are coming tomorrow since they have all the list of changes to gear and talents coming to DZ, so notes will be later

[fluid meadow]

Sticking with reworking pvp and making it an actually good experience is what i honestly want instead of this bandage

[hybrid ore]

Any comment of mine since the stream started that looks like this one here is direct info from the stream, if you want some info before it goes all official.

[elfin hazel]

patch notes tommorow but you can watch the stream or read rivens messages

[dapper axle]

make dz with sbm

[lyric egret]

Should have just escalated the heroic world tier by 1

[kind veldt]

there are brackets yet some people like them some people hate them

[elfin hazel]

pvp community here is toxic enough I don't need them whining about how sbmm is the worst thing on earth

[kind veldt]

congrats you can never please everyone

there are people who hate expertise on PVP, there are people who think is great their effort gives them the edge

[dapper axle]

just make it level based

[kind veldt]

level is meanigless number

[dapper axle]

i know but its the only way to do it without people comlaining

[kind veldt]

it already has brackets

[hybrid ore]

The SHD 300k I played with last night looking down from his mountain of stats.

[dapper axle]

then why are people whining

[brave idol]

you are whining

[dapper axle]

im not?

[lyric egret]

At this point now SHD visibility should be removed and players be judged on their builds

[hybrid ore]

You may not intend them to be, but a lot of your comments are coming across as a little piercing.

[golden raptor]

Hilarious take given every season for years left out PvP players

[brazen elm]

builds are only half the player

[kind veldt]

no offense but you are kinda spitting how decisions are bad without seeing the changes or knowing previous stuff

[brave idol]

that is a good idea, and i am one of those who have wrong perceptions based on shd

[fluid meadow]

I'll be honest pve seasons still gave good pvp things
Cavalier was a gem in a heap of trash

[kind veldt]

would say like 90% honestly

[dapper axle]

im just basing my opinion off of what ive been told. its probably a good update but people arent making it out to be

[brazen elm]

eh, i think a good player with a bad build could do more than a bad player with a good build. striker doesn't work when you're down cause you rushed in

[kind veldt]

look make your own decisions from the actual facts, people on the internet and game forums tend to be volatile of hating everything always half the time

[elfin hazel]

correct in a pve first game pve should be focused first instead of the pvp mode (which lost its main dev team ages ago) which most people don't play and don't seem to like

[golden raptor]

“PvE first game” who said?

[fluid meadow]

I just think making a pve dz doesn't actually let someone experience the dz as it was supposed to
Like a watered down version with predictable ai and up to 12 allies which no scaling will equalise

[kind veldt]

i mean a player can have negative that is detrimental, but at the same time people can get so much power boost from good builds they dont actually learn to play the game, i bet there are people who cant snipe just using determined to cruise through a lot

[brave idol]

yet you are still here

[fluid meadow]

Unless you wanna make T15 kinda scaling there

[elfin hazel]

I would imagine all of div1 & div2 since they came out with how pve has always gotten the main content of both games

[kind veldt]

it's not trying to be PVP simulation

[dapper axle]

i agree with the statement it doesnt let the play it as intended

[elfin hazel]

like come on man theres seasons focused on the story it's a looter shooter you cant get more pve focused than this

[brazen elm]

yeah that's true

[vernal void]

Is there full notes breakdown of what was said on stream

[golden raptor]

The original division 1 trailer was sold using the dz as its main focus 😂

[elfin hazel]

was the trailer the game or ?

[kind veldt]

thats why they are not changing all DZs to be PVE, only one to adjust to seasonal modifier

[vernal void]

We got parts of it here

[kind veldt]

while also adjust PVP in general so it has more variety

[golden raptor]

People buy the game due to the trailer obviously thats why trailers exist

[brave idol]

times changed. games evolved.

[elfin hazel]

did the story not happen did the areas surrounding the big dz not exist

[sudden meadow]

ah yes, the ubisoft era of false marketing.

[golden raptor]

Do u mean the reddit community cried they couldn’t play dz pvp so they stripped the pvp community of everything good it had?

[sudden meadow]

those were the days

[elfin hazel]

we're 8 years deep into a game thats always gotten pve content pushed at the forefront of each update it's kinda ridiculous to claim it's not pve first

[brave idol]

no. there are way more pve players then pvp.

[golden raptor]

For you maybe?

[broken sage]

Hate these escalations……
Get a full group.

Start it, 2 people leave instantly…….

Just wasting my tokens and time.

[undone timber]

Is brother delusional

[steep flume]

As a hardcore dz player whos in the dz 24/7 these changes are stupid an wat was the point of me grinding to get all my gear 30 just for it to get stripped away so casuals can roam and be NPCs just dumb

[elfin hazel]

no I would imagine this applies to everyone else even pvp players since they got to see the same pve content I did each update

[brave idol]

as you said game did nothing for pvp and after all these yearss still going strong and you are still here

[undone timber]

PvP has had a massive content drought for the past couple of years😭

[kind veldt]

You still have regular DZ, are you ignoring things on purpose?

[sudden meadow]

Don't worry, the devs gave you a tiny little corner in this ooonee dz 😄

[golden raptor]

Thats literally the original point. PvP community got ignored for years and ur complaining about a single update not giving pve players something

[elfin hazel]

correct because it is an entire season

[vernal void]

Place is a toxic both literally and social. I am not touching that

[polar thorn]

Weird, I watch the stream and there's no rewards in the twitch inventory

[brave idol]

we will roam in your precisous dz and do despicable things

[golden raptor]

And it was an entire season every other time PvP players got ignored, not for 1 but for years worth of seasons

[steep flume]

Nah but i dont wanna play in one dz its stupid just so casuals will stop crying its not gonna change anything when theres skill gap even if i was to go in the dz with casuals an farm them they still gonna cry an say i cheat 😂😂

[vernal void]

Okay but does anyone here have tranzcript of the stream?

[sudden meadow]

I mean it's gonna rotate, so it's not that bad

[brazen elm]

So you want pve people to go to the dz so you can farm them. How hardcore.

[steep flume]

Wheres the patch notes

[elfin hazel]

they're coming tommorow

[kind veldt]

Tomorrow because there many pages of PVP specific changes

[elfin hazel]

PATCH NOTES ARE TOMMOROW THEY WILL BE POSTED IN #patch-notes WHEN THEY DROP

[steep flume]

Dont come to dz til u got the builds u need to defend yourself

[hybrid ore]

@steep flume You've lost all sympathy at this point. Time to chill out.

[vocal hamlet]

Bruh players decreased can't find any in matchmaking escalation

[fallow dune]

It is me or the stash says 500 space and later goes to 450?

[brazen elm]

that's def weird, no progress at all? try a streamer maybe, not sure if drops were on for the div channel

[polar thorn]

welp, there goes my one hour

[vocal hamlet]

Bug

[brave idol]

drops are not on the division channel, you need to watch a streamer

[brazen elm]

i just leave them on mute overnight tbh

[fallow dune]

Ohhh I was happy for a moment

[steep flume]

That was the point of them keeping expertise in the dz for players that earned an taking it out of conflict for the casual that cried about expertise an again they cator to you guys again all good tho they still gonna get beat up and cry 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

[sudden meadow]

depends on the tier you're playing, but escalation is not really all that enjoyable past T5

[vocal hamlet]

If ur original limit is 450 don't put things above 450 or items will vanish

[vernal void]

Yes the predator prey dyanmic totally healthy for any game. Totally not bred resentment

[polar thorn]

streamer? Who else is streaming rn

[vocal hamlet]

Searching t4 and t5 for matchmaking and it takes ages

[brave idol]

this is not 2008 anymore, games evolved. pvp relying games last 6 months and then tank

[elfin hazel]

https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/tom-clancys-the-division-2

[broken sage]

How are people farming escalations effectively?

I’m just wasting tokens and time with these randoms.

Either high level and have no clue how game works.

Or as soon as I start out people just leave.

[vernal void]

I think they could remove expertise system and everyone would happier lmao.

[sudden meadow]

ah yeah, most of the mid tiers are gonna be tough. T4 has same drop rate as 3 so nobody plays it. Y5 is the cutoff point for alot of players so they will either stay low or go to T9-10 for best rates

[covert estuary]

One expertise enjoyer: yeag

[steep flume]

Okay if that’s the case give me all my componets an materials that i put in to get to 30😂😂

[brazen elm]

you'd have a better chance on lfgs than matchmaking, lots of people just looking for someone to host for them there

[vocal hamlet]

Well devs need to fix matching by mission i think. Most of the times players leave if they farming something else

[polar thorn]

I guess grock then

[sudden meadow]

I suggest going on the lfg channels instead

[hybrid ore]

If you check the 📌 pinned message in this channel and scroll down, there's a link to all active content streams.

[brazen elm]

i've gotten more teams hosting and lfging in global chat than matchmaking

[vernal void]

Honestly, that should the case. A full refund or more mats for those who already there. Game got to be more accessible lmao.

[brazen elm]

god "lfging" sounds so weird

[brave idol]

so they went back to smg on caches, skipping lmg and ar. that is diabolic

[steep flume]

Shi i want all shd points back

[steep flume]

Smgs are king

[vernal void]

Shd points are kind of whatever. They normalizing so who cares.

[kind veldt]

i dont see the point of SHD refund

[hybrid ore]

They want a new watch reset farm.

They ain't getting one.

[steep flume]

Im not finna explain it again just scroll back up

[kind veldt]

i read it already

[steep flume]

So when they gonna ban auto nemi players they worried about a pve darkzone how about fix lagswitchers abusing auto nemesis

[toxic flume]

Why refund SHD points when SHD levels are endless

[vernal void]

What you running and i usually run solo without my static.

[kind veldt]

they specifcally mentioned more anti cheat as well target the current lagswitchers also

[broken sage]

Just trying out an umbra build atm.

Before that was my strikers.

[brave idol]

i havent played escalation today but generally t5 is very easy to find and often you can clear with 2 good dps so almost never wipe

[kind veldt]

i usually farm T5 also, but life been busy

[vernal void]

I do not why he asking for shd refubd though. The expertise system is a massive headache for everyone and i rather that system be removed and we all have our weapons automatically experted 30.

Or make it easy to farm to 30 and level the gear to 30 cheaply.

[hybrid ore]

The curse of Expertise mentioning weapon damage strikes again.

[toxic flume]

By the time seasons comes out, you are more than likely to be max expertise

[vernal void]

How.

[toxic flume]

If you only end up chasing Proto gear. You slow down your expertise farm

[toxic flume]

More weapons, gear sets and ect they add. More stuff you can expertise. The expertise cap is lvl 30. You can have every weapon/gear in the game to 80% proficiency for an example and still reach max cap due to how much there is to max out

[tribal mantle]

Guys do I need to buy the season pass to get the new classified missions to get to e new exotic AR? Caduceus

or isn’t it out yet

[toxic flume]

More stuff they add, the easier it will be due to how much more you can level up to reach lvl 30 expertise

[elfin hazel]

it's not out yet and it'll (probably) be on the pass

[kind veldt]

Caduceus is next season exotic

No payment required

[frosty wadi]

At least its seemingly good

[hybrid ore]

I look forward to no one spelling it right.

[frosty wadi]

New kneepads be a dud tho

[toxic flume]

Imagine striker crit build with it

[frosty wadi]

Big fan of the cadberry egg exotic

[hybrid ore]

Caduckeus is my personal favourite one so far.

[fluid meadow]

did they make any statement regarding cheating/lagswitching in pvp?

[elfin hazel]

they're workin on it

[kind veldt]

yes early on the stream

[elfin hazel]

they got a whole team just for it

[exotic hill]

Why release the new content but hide the new hunter 5 days into the event? 🤔

[tribal mantle]

Sweeeet

[kind veldt]

season is many weeks away

[hybrid ore]

yeah a sub-team to the PvP are just focusing on anti-cheat within PvP.
special mention of lag-switching as a focus.

[brazen elm]

I bet it'll work great with refractor and momento

[runic kernel]

Rouge agents

[hybrid ore]

just the Regular suspects.

[covert estuary]

But refractor sounds cooler so im gonna call it that /s

[hybrid ore]

Wait I forgot the most famout of them all: Arialdi.

[elfin hazel]

rouge agents in decent wearing refractor shooting me with the cadecuos

[sudden meadow]

I mean rouge agents isn't inaccurate.

[elfin hazel]

there momento stacks keep messing me up !

[covert estuary]

Augh these typos whenever I see them make me forget english language

Even tho I make typos a ton. Refractor and Momento just gets me

At least its not stryker...

[hybrid ore]

They do look fabulous in lipstick, it must be said.

Stricker is one I've seen way too much recently.

[undone timber]

Hunters furry

[sudden meadow]

hah, I was just thinking that

[hardy rover]

Cadoocus

[hybrid ore]

Nah, I like ducks.
🦆

That's all I got for duck emotes.

[covert estuary]

Thats ducked up...

[hybrid ore]

It ain't all its quacked up to be.

But I'll wing it.

[silver raven]

What does retaliation give you when completing

[hybrid ore]

You get a token reward for finishing it, and a cache.

How many tokens depends on the Tier.

[silver raven]

Is it worth at the end of the day or is it basic frap like field prof cashes

[undone timber]

Exotic + named cache on heroic

Along with faction exotic materials and blueprints and Comms

[empty summit]

hello

[hybrid ore]

Oh retaliation, whoops.

I need some sleep.
the bill has come due.

[silver raven]

I tried a little of it but lost on 3rd conteoll point cus git cought in cross fire from mlk I think ... ornwas the other one it was in

[maiden lagoon]

would anyone be willing to run retaliation with me to get the bighorn?

[silver raven]

Thought only drops from legendary?

[sudden meadow]

Yeah, crap gets pretty chaotic when on a time crunch.

[maiden lagoon]

i was told i cant get the crafting bp that way

[cursive sphinx]

A new healer set? 💔

[silver raven]

We e were pretty good until the one group got moved in and we both git in center cross fire like from all directions

[sudden meadow]

for next season, yeah.

[grave timber]

Both real ones get it from legendary cheap ones get it from retaliation

[grave timber]

Interesting

[silver raven]

Wym

[cursive sphinx]

Just add grenades to measured assembly and we good (I’m biased)

[grave timber]

People who actually got the gun from grinding from the mission and has a chance to drop

While in retaliation heroic black tusk a few runs maybe getting it first try boom done in one day easy no work at all

[sudden meadow]

pretty sure you can get it from Summit too, but nobody plays that

[cursive sphinx]

Real

[brazen elm]

i got my first one from summit

[grave timber]

Yup using the glitch on floor 10 so somewhat

[grave timber]

Same

[sudden meadow]

I remember farming the hell out of leggo when it first came out. The drone spam was brutal.

[maiden lagoon]

im not fighting the white tusks the triple bomb drones suck

[sudden meadow]

Not so bad now, especially if you got someone running MA

hell, you can solo it much more easily (still takes some skill) with proto gear.

[silver raven]

Does it drop from CD or summit still without legendary?

[maiden lagoon]

i have it setup at lvl 10 to do the boss thing but im a striker build and u cant kill all the adds its a pain

[sudden meadow]

Don't think it drops from CD unless you got it before, but for SUmmit is has to be leggo

at least I would assume, since mine didnt initially drop from summit.

[silver raven]

Ik summit trick every 10. But wasn't sure if it will drop in CD

[brave idol]

big horn may drop from any legendary boss

i got it 90th floor of summit it hink but asw people getting it from strongholds at legendary

dont think retaliations drop bp for it

[kind veldt]

bighorn is legendary bosses, low chance on DZ, now on retaliation

[silver raven]

I think cap hill was the one with higher rating so I thought. When go through the dome part down the rip cord

[brave idol]

oh also on retal?

[kind veldt]

part of the new BT blueprints

[unique bramble]

It's not a glitch, it's just that The floor completes when you kill all NPCs, so players don't kill everyone to get the loot and reset.

[umbral oak]

Is there notes on the upcoming stuff for next season or is it too early? Reddit just talks about the Brooklyn event and new hunter

[silver raven]

Able to kill all but 1-3 but if kill named guy or what ev and don't see red light let squad wipe

[kind veldt]

patchnotes for PTS is tomorrow

[umbral oak]

Alrighty

[paper crystal]

caduceus should work off skill tiers, not having that means all you need is the most dmg you can get, you know what that means? yup strikers. again and again and again.... smh
we need more skills based weapons.

[wet shuttle]

so its avaible to preload now?

[golden raptor]

Reason why everything else is overlooked is because strikers is so good, needs a nerf but everyone would cry

[wet shuttle]

saw the twitter post saying its avaible to preload but how do i do this on ubisoft connect

[umbral dock]

This is the nerfed version of strikers, btw

[tired dome]

how does core strength work with prototypes? do i get .75 skill tier

[brazen elm]

the talent doesn't change with protos

[sudden meadow]

they're asking if it scales with proto stats.

[tender valley]

is core strenght prototype drop still broken?

[pliant sentinel]

always that one guy that strays off during escalation

[sudden meadow]

supposedly fixed this last patch

[tender valley]

testing rn

[tired dome]

is it a no..

[tender valley]

yeah they did fix it

[sudden meadow]

dunno, I can hop on and test.

[dusk trench]

I like how the Unfriendly Fire modifier is taken straight from Y7S1

[tired dome]

ok lmk

[wet shuttle]

?????

[random laurel]

How goes the farm mates?

Did yall get your mk46 yet

[sudden meadow]

seems like it does based on armor comparison when equipping a proto core strength bp vs non proto.

[golden raptor]

Its clearly the most OP pve build in the game thats why absolutely every pve player uses it. Needs a nerf to balance… but as said, everyone would cry

[umbral dock]

actually i go to great lengths to avoid it outside of escalation

negotiators, ongoing directive, refactor, tipping scales, coco pestilence……

[golden raptor]

Some people do for sure but you know aswell as I do high level PvE is the single best build by a country mile.

[unique bramble]

I mean. It's a hyena focused season so it's justified.

[broken sage]

Just did 1st retaliation.

What’s military dogtags and broken SHD watch used for?

[ember jewel]

for proto weapon better grind in escalation or just make ones via tinkering station?

[golden raptor]

You use them to craft guns and caches at the crafting bench.

[wise peak]

I don’t mean to be rude or anything but I’m just asking. But I thought the striker gearset was originally nerfed twice in the past already?.

I know it’s overpowered today I’m not disputing that claim.

[unique bramble]

Yeah, they've changed from 1% to 0,85% per stack last time.

[random laurel]

Don't think it needs a nerf. Just buff the other sets, redo how some gearsets work and we golden

[wise peak]

And for the record I don’t use striker not anymore at least. I’ve switched to running tipping scales as my go to build since it came out.

[sudden meadow]

It was actually buffed after release due to losing stacks too fast. Nobody used it. Then they nerfed damage.

[golden raptor]

Come on man buff 20 sets or nerf 1? Which they gonna do.

[umbral dock]

okay they nerf it

now everyone just uses tipping scales, and we are in the exact same situation

[random laurel]

Ya mon. Other sets need some love

[golden raptor]

Dont nerf it, keep using striker for eternity and every new build that comes out is useless in comparison

[kind veldt]

nerfing strikers doesnt fix the entirety of blue sets and aggro stuff, as well other things that are badly designed like tip of the spear and breaking point

[unique bramble]

Then they nerf tipping scales and everyone goes back to negotiator dilemma and so on

[pliant sentinel]

wake up honey its time to clear out your stash and 3 characters inventory again

[umbral dock]

oh but people also want content and big exciting updates

you can’t have an enormous total gear overhaul and also new seasons every few months

[zinc shadow]

truth nuke
i hope a ubi studio can learn from r6s and realise that nerfing everything that's popular is a terrible idea lmao

[golden raptor]

They just did with pvp for season 2.

[kind veldt]

they buffed a lot of weapons last big rebalance

[random laurel]

Its all about prospective -johnny cage

[kind veldt]

problem is that with anything that scale high it ends up being striker

[unique bramble]

I would say that the tip of spear is just outdated, like, having 40% wp after using spec weapon back in 2019 was kinda cool, now not so much.

[kind veldt]

it got reworked to be worse in case you dont remember, it doesnt even does that

it just buffs spec weapons and only buffs regular weapons for short duration IF you have backpack or chest, i cant remember which

[unique bramble]

I know, still wished it was redesign with specs.

[low shuttle]

getting deltas all the time. work for 1 hour with vpn but then another delta

[valid lava]

Honestly, a lot of the game needs to be reworked but by this point, the cost isn't worth the reward

[sudden meadow]

BP talent. The chest gave you sig weapon damage and ammo

[kind veldt]

i remember the talents but never which one is where

[tired dome]

almost every set in the game is good striker is only "required" for t10

if you wanna run something fast its just not the best set even when you have hunters fury headhunter

[unique bramble]

Even breaking point?

[red lion]

Crossplay is coming 2027?

[golden raptor]

They added so much over the years but nothing has taken strikers place… in PvP the metas change a lot more often than PvE.

[kind veldt]

later this year is all the information, they mentioned on stream they need to fix and work a lot of the scenarios

[valid lava]

I still think adding striker's to Div2 was like pointing a shotgun at their leg and wondering if they'll limp after pulling the trigger

[kind veldt]

well striker was bad on release

it only became good when heartbreaker was added

that forced another big rework that made it the meta

there were tweaks here and there but that is put us in hte current situation

[unique bramble]

Striker was already goated back in 1, no wonder they wanted to bring it back with WONY.

[valid lava]

and to think heartbreaker on release was stronger than current striker

[valid lava]

And it killed any possibility of build diversity the game had

[wise peak]

I think nerfing wouldn’t really fix anything honestly. Yeah people will not like the change. But then they would just fall back to another gear set that is good and just rely on it then we’re back at the same issue as before.

[kind veldt]

power level of things is all over

i think other than very few weapons, most are okay, of course there is meta but an AK with good stats will work fine

cant say the same for gear sets

[valid lava]

Most of the weapons I'm okay with save for a few fringe cases and Lexington

[kind veldt]

breaking point is a contradicting gear set with horrible scalling and upkeep, OD is pretty much the only red set that buffs teamates, half of the tank sets cant do aggro

[valid lava]

bring back OG As/8s and make true patriot a proper damage support build