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At least you can see it on the Elite ruffians themselves
Gain an idea on the fashion applications from that
I wonder if I'll be at Expertise 30 when Rise Up releases
only if you're there now. otherwise hopeful thinking there on your part
i'm going to make a wild guess. the most cost efficient way of getting prototype stuff will be playing the escalations edit:assuming when we get prototype gear they'll already be at expertise 30
Any news on when Crossplay is launching?
soon™ something roguegold covered in his pts video was it wasn't in the year 8 season 1. so could be season 2+?
I hope they make them Optimisation friendly. I do not look forward to hunting Striker's, Tipping Scales and other various sets
The only way I can see them make prototype gear optimization friendly is by adding a new resource and make it expensive to keep you playing. Probably why you can't optimize prototype gear in the first place
think roguegold covered this. best we can optimize to is our current number in our libraries, beyond that which prototype definitely goes above probably won't be an option. RNG is going to suck
Can't wait for lie down, try not to cry, cry a lot simulator!
It says this in the pts notes, escalation is the best place to get them + a prototype piece the minimum stats will be high end max stats
(I jest, but I do hope you will be able to dump a resource or several into it)
you'll more likely be expertising gear to 30, do the prototype mechanic and pray you get maxout prototype stat otherwise. Escalations is going to be the more cost efficient route to obtain these prototypes
hello
I wouldn't be opposed to having to sacrifice Prototype gear to perfect your build, tbh
That or you get a resource for completing the highest tier mission that lets you insta-max your stats
Hell I basically just returned from a long break and just trying to fill the library and getting expertise is already a timesink
Low-key, though. I'm almost interested more in the talents
What do you MEAN I can have Double Tap 2.0 on my weapons
Expertise event coming next i think
I'd rather have 5x XP currently to get to 1000 on my watch, tbh
It was that a few weeks ago. Missed it
It would be so awesome, it would be so cool
If the Proficiency event went on for the whole 4 weeks
Came back like 5 days ago
Or give me permanent 2x XP because I had to endure gear 1.0 back in the day
jk
Just boost everyone to Expertise 30 smh
(I jest, partially)
Most people just used the level 30-40 mule method for there expertise but they removed it now
Shame really because most people you see with max stats benefitted from it and the rest missed out and have to grind normal
Ugh. I just remembered I need so many Exotic components
is proffiecency lvl 5 a soft cap and im stuck on it for past few days?
They are lowering the resources needed to level things so id just hold off for now n stack your resources
Have you been using a bunch of different stuff?
i swap betgween gear ye but overall i use pretty much the same stuff
Information that would've helped me last week, lmao. The amount of resources I've set fire to is....quite significant
That'll probably be why, Proficiency/Expertise requires you to use quite a lot of gear. Although Proficiency does take a while to level
Thankfully I built myself a headhunter setup to clear control points so I can max the marksman rifles out
Yeah they talked about it on that live stream thing i think + with the new prototype coming out they’ll have to or it’ll take people forever
I'm using my main TS, Big Al build and just swapping gadgets around to get them Proficient
Stupendous amounts of exo components to level your loot atm
After that I'll probably just farm the Hounds and such
15 minutes for pts day
I believe it got delayed, so an hour and 14 minutes
Yeah I see in notices right now
Hopefully PTS goes well, although it does confuse me in how it works. Can you just load in with your regular Agent or nah?
Yes
Everything is maxed out too?
Yeah you get caches with all the new stuff
Huh. That is actually pretty damn cool
That is a first time for me looking brooklyn because I don t have expansion bought in my account
Honestly I could download it but i prefer to wait its shit having new things then getting them taken away for a few weeks 😂
That is a huge change for build system because 36 new passives is a lot
so , im new here, should i play realism or regular ?
lmao I woke up at 6 am just for the PTS only to find out it starts at 7 am now
I'm giving this chat another try... how do I know if someone is a moderator on here?
Immersion and non tanky wanky enemies, realism. That Division experience that’ll make you question why everything is everything, then the regular.
Orange name.
My understanding is realism is gonna run for short time then it’ll be gone so will your progress
Is the PTS out?
oh its temporary mode ?
K
That's correct, it's vanishing with the new Season starting.
No, not right now.
I’d play it however just to test it out it’s pretty great imo
@serene pagoda Hmmm it needs to hurry up I wanna know if escalation has targeted loot
I read the notes, it’s pretty fire but gonna be very tedious
yeah i like it tho, but its weird we didnt pick up anything on the ground, i mean its less pick up thing
Didn’t see anything about targeted loot in there, but one life and you’re out finna make me rip my hair out
@serene pagoda If it doesnt have targeted loot I see the community turning on the mode fast
God. Please have targeted loot
Escalation is a specific mission you run, it's not like a map change.
They're incredibly hard, being "Heroic difficulty" at base, with 9 levels of increase past it.
and if you fail, you lose Tokens.
The enticing part of it is the new gear, modifiers
I wonder what the mission level to tier will look like, I know it starts as Heroic
Tier 9 is Legendary, but spicy, I'm imagining
will there be a server maintenance today for the new update?
@slate spoke It's not a server reset day, the PTS is a separate download and has no relation to the live game.
It will be like almost-master but with nonsense buffs to the enemies
Oh. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT!
@serene pagoda Yes, but if its random loot itll be next to impossible to get what you are looking for. Upgrading through expertise seems like itll be a insane grind and waste of resources since you only get one chance at the stat upgrade
Just a reminder that the PTS is PC only, at least so far.
Non sense is wild, but what is a endgame without a buffed up enemy😭
I can't wait for the PTS to be the only time I get to try prototype gear for several months
can someone explain me what the next update is with the escalation and prototype gear what are those?
Can't wait to deal with explosive round snipers
There’s no resources needed to upgrade it or re roll from what I saw, only resources wasted but in a good way is maxing out expertise.
iron horse sniper room ahh snipers (they bypass health gate instantly)
…Do not remind me…
Ah. Thank you
you dont need to be scared of snipers, its alright.
WHO DECIDED THEY CAN DO THAT???
Anyway. I refuse to interact with Art Museum in Escalation
Them snipers had that barrel to the head when you typed that😭🙏🏿
what is escalation?
Oh god the art museum
Although. Hmm, what if you don't own the DLC. I presume you can't do it, then
@mild kraken You've been told where to look already.
@serene pagoda You have max an items stats and get it to expertise lvl 30 that is not free
Not only that most players are no where near expertise lvl 30
On average IH run snipers don't even exit their spawn point.
Poor DZ and PvP players
That’s what I meant, so either play the long run or play that. I’m not Lvl 30, but I’m not going thru that misery multiple times for specific gear.
Honestly I think the prototype part of the gear should only enable itself if you're in Escalation and otherwise just be normal gear everywhere else
I rather max my rank and do that instead
i keep hearing about escalation and prototype gear but what are those?
I HATE the Aaron keener mission
@mighty girder Honestly thats not a terrible idea
thing in the upcoming Season, we'll get full details later.
i'm asking cause i see alot of complains about it
Explain
People complain about literally every single new thing.
people complained about Targeted Loot when it was new.
I am complaining, raa
why would be ppl complain about targeted loot
Because people like complaining.
oh wait let me guess it makes it too easy? pls tell thats not it
Targeted loot, they want to target the loot
I wonder if they'll put Prototype gear in the end of season caches
The actual reason is a little sad, but the visible reason was just because they didn't have it and now someone else does.
Targeted loot needs to be in every looter game going forward
ah so i wasted 500h grinding this gear set ad now your giving us targeted loot kind of complain
We been had targted loot?
Countdown, retaliations? I could list a few more.
How DARE they make my farming faster. I want the most tedious farming experience. Raaaa
I should add. I am joking
As someone who farmed out everything before TL, I thank whoever at MSV gave it the greenlight every single time I log on.
W
love these
guys btw
You mean us but edgy?
I do too. They make very generous contributions to my stash.
and then they can focus that absurd amount of damage on literally anyone else
Shout out to the Houndsman and his cohort of mini Hounds. The Division thanks you for your service.
i actually missed that bounty thing
Scorpio says hi
Except Harrison
That one can burn in its own bloody flames
i forgot i had one 😭
Just spray water at him. He'll get the hint
Comically sized bucket of water
love these
guys too
Riot foam works too
Filled with ice
just did the 4 hunter thing for the black dye yesterday
idk why i put it off for so long
You mean us but with cooler bags?
Horrible strategy, though. So it balances out
yes
Where pts
They're cooler in general tbh
I am quite fond of Bardon Schaeffer
Nah. They didn't kill umpteen Hunters for their masks
Activating rogue protocols solely because I wanted red lights over orange
anna <3
For fashion basically?
Respect
I grinded a few k in SHD because I wanted my wrist to have a power-rangers disc on it.
ya gotta do what ya gotta do for the fashion.
Anna is so cool. I wish AI (not the AI slop) women were real
is pts already preloadable ?
tried downloading it but got an error
was playing some of the manhunt missions and anna called isac boring 😭
Rivens. You seem cool, upload yourself to be an AI so you can give us morally questionable objectives
She's not wrong
ISAC is so...meh, unlike ANNA and her snide remarks
It would be so funny if Rivens talked and she's actually the voice actor for ANNA
Did we ever hear the Black Tusk's AI talk
nvm, i made it work
RIP ISAC 2017-2026
didn’t even know they had one
I think they also have ANNA, don't they?
Yeah DIAMOND iirc
^
DIAMOND is basically ANNA but with the talking part removed
lame
If only we could hear ANNA critiquing the Black Tusk efforts
i’d love that
"You almost got them" - Jane ANNA
I'm still half convinced that ANNA is just a long-term Sokolova plan.
any leveling tips or do i just speedrun campaign
Is there a good way to farm for the Lexington AR?
She's cool. I hope we don't have to kill her
You can't
Not until the end of next season
if you're still progressing through campaign , doing side activities and sub mission help , rushing through campaign can be tough sometimes
wears hunter outfit to strike fear in the enemy factions
doesnt fit because you stole the one fat hunter's clothes
I'm picturing a Hunter Mask just falling off from the straps being worn down.
I would like more worn looking outfits.
The hunter wasn't fat, just big boned
Is there a list of the best "attributes"(?) for each weapon type? like crit chance, or damage out of cover, those things?
DTOOC for everything that isn't LMG, CHC for LMG
i only got the one outfit sadly
I like your funny words, magic man
i wished Massive would have an option for us to re-watch all cutscene again with the costume that i'm wearing , imagine meeting Manny for the first time in Recruiter outfit
Technically it’s DTTOOC
i’d imagine they have a strict no hunter outfit policy
i need more
but poor or missed any free ones
Anyone know if Stinger's still available from the friend referral system?
I doubt the White House has much of a dress code beyond common sense
It's something i actually did , i bought the base game and recruiter outfit and i didn't buy and do DLC until way later , seeing my Agent in Recruiter outfit in those cutscene is something
@brazen elm I once got asked to leave because i was wearing socks+sandals.
Well, in post-Green Poison times, anyway
what does the houndsman bounty give
I wish I could just roll up in a speedo and sandals with a bucket hat
So Crit Chance, Damage out of cover, anything else? I'm not fully sure what rolls on what lol
What are the rewards for the referrer?
As a Referrer you will earn rewards for each of your 2 Invitees that complete the program requirements.
For your 1st Invitee: Esprit de Corps Outfit
For your 2nd Invitee: Insurgent Backpack and Insurgent Uniform
What are the rewards for the invitee?
As an Invitee and upon playing 2 hours, you will earn the Camaraderie outfit, the Timepiece Backpack Trophy and the Level 30 Boost.
On weapons that's pretty much it. Gear is a different beast entirely
3 min to pts opens
don't see the stinger one anymore in the list or even in the picture for it, but yeah it's probably a possibility to obtain it through that still
if it doesn't get pushed back 😹 
chat 🥹
pain and suffering and quickstep ofcourse
👁️ 👁️ quick step u say
the minihounds tends drops named items, think killing the houndsman nets you 3 of their outfit pieces, minus the actual outfit (gloves, boots, backpack or mask i forget which)
a split second message of pts delay made me jump
hounds drop seasonal named (incl. quickstep) and DZ exclusive named loot
bounty completion yields mask, backpack and gloves, but usually not a lot of people will be willing to waste their bounty for you (there's currently no way to reacquire the bounty)
oh
Hey moderator
Technically the person that has the bounty can leave the party while the rest of the party can kill houndsman
oh you can do that?
thought that was the process, but wasn't sure as i haven't done that 😹
A question. If i dont complete the Event will changed it after 1 week ?
Looking forward to seeing you all die level 10 escalation on the pts
i don’t even have a pc
Sadge
global events are tied to their time line. if you don't finish everything in it for the rewards you missed out. the stuff for the anniversary will also be gone for who knows how long before they add it to the store or apparel caches and what not
goddamn mike start the pts
@hybrid ore
PTS launched but got MIKE-01
cries
PTS delayed for 2 more hours inc
source?
Pattern recognition
lmao
It changes regardless if you completed it or not. Make sure you get that Mask before the weekly reset timer.
But i dont understande a thing. how much i need to do the Stage 02 ?
5/165 my stage 02
I’m so far behind I’m using 2023 metas in conflict
which probably oddly still works
Umbra dominates sadly
What happened to pts
launcher just prompted an update for pts
from my understanding, Umbra counters Heartbreaker, heartbreaker counters bighorn hsd, armor regen or something
Why my level reset to 1 ?
is there more xp in solo or matchmaking? any diff? im lvling
I have a ? About the optimization event. I'm not getting double exotic components when I break down exotics. Is that working as intended?
Umbra has no counter TTK is so fast if stacked
from what i can tell exotic components are supposed to be the hard thing to get in general
PTS update really Massive?
keener is stuck behind the glass after I died to him pleeease dont tell me I have to run through the whole mission again to fix this 😩
Yes
What's the current situation with PTS???
CHUCK NORRIS HAS DIED
say you swear
Hello everyone, first time on pc, anyone managed to download the pts version ? Looking through Ubisoft connect but can't find it
Not a bad run
Just heard it on my dads news radio in the car
did you buy the game on steam
People die twice, once physically and then again when people stop talking about him. Chuck Norris will live forever
I have a ? About the optimization event. I'm not getting double exotic components when I break down exotics. Is that working as intended? Does anyone know how this is supposed to work?
whats the best leveling skills?
No have it through the ubisoft premium subscription
mike-1 errors in pts?
updated 9gb?
yes
not sure then
cant update
people were able to press play, i couldn't. so i verified files 😹
Hmm, closed and restarted PTS and got another d/l 10.32GB this time
Revive hive so if you have a moment of bad judgement you can get back up and recover or armor repair drone
reminder to use #1484200964712829028 channels for talking about PTS stuffs
Thank you, I didn't see a PTS channel
Says I’ve no access to whatever you linked
id:customize you need the pts news role to see it
Got it thanks
cold take but they should’ve brought back rogue agent code names
they just bring back the Rogue Agents instead 🥁
i sobbed
bc we used to have raptor domino scarecrow etc
now just “rogue agent”
All the cliche "cool guy" ones were taken.
When you get to "viper", you know you're running low.
respekt bridget smh
She's part of a gay couple in a video game, she couldn't have had a bigger target on her back if she also had 2 days left to retirement.
Pts servers is late ?
PTS is now live 🟢
Share your feedback in #1484200964712829028, we’ll be keeping a close eye on everything posted here.
Have fun!
And she was dating the leader of her BTSU crew (also the main person everyone in the Division was gunning for)
I got delta everytime , I try to load in so idk?
Me too
could be an influx of players
Yh , but still annoying if u want test something
What is the target loot for the dark zone today if anyone knows
Cavalier in DZ South
Is there AR at all
@chilly maple Just a heads up, in case you're farming for Eagle Bearer/Bighorn there.
EB/BH/Rav do not get a buff from TL (targeted loot) drops in the DZ, it's still the same-old 0.02% droprate.
@tribal mantle If you have PTS questions, your best bet is to ask over in https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/1484200964712829028
me too
how do console players get pts
they dont
PTs only PC
discrimination against consoles tbh
Yannick has basically said that it's a cert issue.
unbelievable
so as usual: blame sony/microsoft.
i will make sure they suffer
Always is. Too much temporary content to be certed for a short window isn't worth it
500, 500 blueprints, let's let this number sink in on how devastating this number is
i will also join the hunter program
oh good good good
I just let the sink out, it's gotta pick one or the other.
another boogieman wannabe, maybe next time i'll be seeing you wearing those creepy watches and gargling blood sfx
i’m the real deal unfortunately for u
Agent Vital signs: Zero
💀
well i guess i'll know what to do in my next 200 hours farming level 3 control points
so many bugs in pts server, amd also the prototype gear up grade is shiiiiiiiiiiit
This build is ass. Activating rogue protocols.
damn, why i gotta have 666 in my PTS profile number lol, how have i never noticed this before
how to capacitor
Why to capacitor.
kinda just want it
What to capacitor? Skill Tiers give you weapon damage.
where do i get said capacitor
oh that’s it?
Yep!
it also gets added to your TL (targeted loot) pool.
Getting to 35 also gave you one
Not when I played lol.
wow that’s shockingly simple
Thats how I got mine + a 4pc tier set
Outcast: the only faction that makes you feel semi weak when your last moment is 4 elite rushers
note i died to the first one, the rest are what i last saw
😭
Floor 10 the best mod farm?
☝️🤓 actually the best would be floor 90 because it's three nameds instead of just one.
What’s the best way to get the oxpecker?
i just got it one day
idk where it came from
More I see of it this escalation mode and prototype gear might be a massive mistake for the game
what unwarranted pessimism
comes with being the defacto resurrection program of a failed government scenario
This new gear thing divided the community opinions, now that I can call THE DIVISION 
ba dum tss
We need to subtract the negative, and add some positive feelings back in. Before we multiply what divides us.
We are the Strategic Homeland Square Root.
I can't help but feel there's persecution complex at play, considering the negative feedback about the new features we're getting next season.
I see Escalation Mode/Prototype Gear as a necessity to give veteran players more reason to play the game, more often.
God knows I'd kill to spend my time growing even more powerful or being challenged, rather than collecting loot as junk to sell or dismantle.
For me, Prototype Gear is like Classified Gear, but better.
but hey i'm level 6 and a half now, well on my way
Hard disagree. Nothing beats pre nerf striker
Don't care
Prototype gear is exciting and I'll never forgive any of you who demands its removal
if you say so
Who asked for it removing? 😂
Look up the discourse above, and see for yourself.
hi drib
hi
I've already had to tolerate Seasonal Characters being removed back in two years ago.
Last thing I want is seeing something I'm really excited to play with removed as well.
I just want it to be usable in the dz but hey we dont all get what we want
gnoy
Expertise killed the DZ, adding more things like the prototype gear won't help recover the DZ
People been saying dz dead for years
Yeah it pretty much is compared to how it was years ago
expertise created more problems than solved for PVP
PvP shouldn't exist
Tell that to the JTF.
lore joke
lemme make sure i got this correct, Prototypes - you cannot modify the talents correct?
you cant from what i got
you just gotta keep re-rolling it?
u mean the augments?
no, the actual legacy talent
Seems sound to me always busy
can only change augments
okay, that's what i thought
ah i see
Sure. I'm not in there much anymore but when I am, doesn't matter if US West, Central or East, I see like five people during what used to be Prime Time
Well I’m Europe and theirs always manhunts running around.
Maybe the Russians are keeping it alive
Wait... people don't want the prototype gear? 😲 I think it sounds rad. It's a reason for me to actually grind in the game again and with the increased mission difficulty it's exactly what I've wanted.
theres two sides
there are two wolves inside you, one wants prototype and escalation and one wants eepy time
from what i see people are mostly taking the side of expertise 30 being a bad way to get proto gear
...because thats not the main way to get proto gear
and they are also forgetting MSV said they would make the expertise grind easier
I’m level 29 they’ll make it easier when I’m 30 no doubt
And what is "eepy time"? 😟
My luck
Half the people complaining didn't watch the stream and get their info second hand or worse
bit of hot pot of "if i already have dumped an massive amount of materials get a perfect gear why should i upgrade to something that might not give me perfect rolls and locks my gear"
Yeah ive seen that complaint a few times
Which is a fair complaint but why does every need to be min maxed week 1 in every game/content drop
it's dicussion if farming mats or farming the gear should be the way things are done
I think a large part of the issue is if you want max rolled proto gear you have to farm for it to drop naturally, no recalibration or optimisation and no option of changing the core
See i actually like that. You get the excitement from the gear again.
yeah
gaming should be niche again
too many orcs that don’t read or aren’t interested in even seeking information who just reflexively react negatively to all information
slay the spire 2 got a negative review nuke today, because the beta branch of the early access has a bunch of nerfs: are you people sane?
You actually check drops again. I'd agree
people want to keep the gear and upgrade it when you reach proto to so they get the perfect item even if they have to grind for mats later to upgrade it, so the previous investment to even reach expertise 30 on a piece of gear
some think farming is the natural way to get gear again and think it's just the natural process
this is my SHD tech, i am only as good as my SHD Tech, i will sleep, bathe, eat, live and breath with my SHD Tech, if i let my skills destroyed, i am useless, if i lose my tech, i am useless, if i use it ineffectively, i am useless, this is my SHD Tech, i am only as good as my SHD Tech
Yeah. Even with a new gear brand/set I can get a new loadout perfected in no time then it's back to dismantling everything.
Bro you're getting mildly annoying lol
sorry it's reference that pop up with me sometimes
i dont like the upgrading route because they it kills the the point of farming, you are not looking at drops you are looking number of X items needed break down to upgrade something
making the value of the drops meaningless agains
so you are not farming gear you are just breaking down mats without event thinking about the gear
so i dislike the "we should be able to upgrade our rolls even in proto" approach
then i look at warframe and it's forma
I suppose it just depends on what you want from the game. The PvE side for me isn’t destroying all content with ease I like the chase rare loot gives. But then I understand the other side, where some people look for the same loot for 1000 hours😂
Exactly, 99% of loot goes to the bin.
well you dont get 59 different HE grakatas from just doing a grinneer mission
well i also hope the discussion for the new gear set and exotics dont get sidetracked and ignored because of proto
we're WAY far away from where this discussion should be, welcoming the newer playerbase, the third wave agents
and the grind from the new player's perspective
In terms of new players, apparently the devs plan to adjust the Expertise grind, making it easier. So that sounds good to me for now
This game has had layers of content added to it numerous times. Its hard for a new player to get into it but they’ve added to much to mitigate the grind, countdown, xp events, skips to level 40, all sorts
adn they can use the game mode to get the items instead of expertise so the road to power should be a fast one
“Back in my day, all you had was Summit”
Honestly, new players wanting to rush the brand new pinnacle endgame is a bit delusional
Yes exactly.
Looking forward to level 67’s matchmaking for level 10 escalation for sure
oh i'm sure, but the road of do cmapaign, few runs of countdown to get a decent build do some other content to unlock some exotics then try escalations
I'm just happy that the game finally gets something for long-term, call it veteran if you want, players instead of catering everything to new players as we have had recently
not saying it's catered to new player
No I'm just saying in general
more that they are not going to lag ultra behind because the wall isnt expertise 30 to get the new gear
Yup
So escalation is all random loot right?
what happened to all my CHC mods?!?!?
Its whatever targeted loot is on the mission that day just like regular mode
nothing happened to anyone's mod that we know of
@golden raptor O well let's hope for some strikers right at launch
i had a bunch of 6% CHC Mods, they are not in my inv anymore.........
Striker day 1 would be perfect
Finally got into the PTS, went to Bas of Ops to get the caches. Game crashed while opening the blueprint cache.
Check if they are in items you put in your stash
Or on an alt character, etc.
i dont think so, but ill check.....
I only have 1 character
Items don't just disappear
I think they loaded an old save file into the PTS. I had a couple things at 30 expertise that are now at their previous level. And a build I made the other day is not listed.
PTS loads a slightly outdated save, yes
At least, in my experience and from what I know
server just go down?
Possibly your server instance. Wait a moment, then reconnect
why cant i level up right off the bat?
wdym
"Level Up Augment" is greyed out
well what level are you?
augments needs new mats to upgrade or reroll i think
You better post in the PTS forum section
Otherwise it gets confusing
is it more efficient to craft things to donate for expertise or just to donate straight materials?
Rather farming than crafting. Countdown is ideal for that
isn't that just donating for expertise with extra steps
You donate items instead of materials. Much cheaper
I doubt that new players will be able to donate mostly materials
......i should probably stop throwing materials away into expertise
gear gives you what 16 fabric peices and donating is 400?
you only start throwing mats at items that are too rare to donate dupes, stuff you dont have or when you reached materials cap so you dump some
on live I donate items but im on pts rn and didnt see if there was a way to skip straight to expertise 30
If you're talking about PTS pls do so here #1484200964712829028
Otherewise it gets confused with the live game and feedback goes lost
oh right mb
if you are in PTS you can just get caches with maxed out mats so it doesnt matter as much
where can i report pts bugs?
i dont have acces
get the PTS role in id:customize
is the dz better to run with or without people?
my "danny weaver" shop is all empty? doesnt he sell crates?
its nearly a must to run with a squad. youll get plowed without one
damn and i dont have a mic :/
eh, not really needed. just need good game sense
wouldnt recommend joining division 2 just for pvp tho
What level are you? If you’re less than 1000 shd you’ll be fine in the low level dz
i just passed 40
Solo
im new to pc but i have over 2k hours on my old xbox
Yeah you’ll be fine vs other players because you dont get into the main dz until you’re 1000 shd
never did the dz tho
So thats where all the veterans are with the high expertise etc
ok thank you
First timer here, how do we join the PTS? Do we normally just update the game and launch the game as normal?
Hello! Does anyone have the Huntsman bounty still in store? Im trying to get the "quickstep" pistol but it seems like the only time you can get the bounty is during the valentines/halloween event.
Additionally: Is there any other way to get the pistol?
It's a different install. You need to download the PTS brach install, which is roughly another 100GB
Thank you!
Really think that proto should be just augments
Ditch the stat increase tbh
Anyone streaming on twitch for the PTS? Id watch right now. Still at work
If you promise not to go in the building and kill my bounty, I will help you get the Quickstep
Yeah check twitch lol
also did the stat bonuses disappear for everyone else or am i buggin
You gotta be more specific
Honestly I have been spending the last 3h trying to figure this thing out so I promise i will not troll a good samaritan that saves me. How do i add you? I have never played with a team before..
whats your game tag ? I will try to add you as a friend
TeknikalTerror in ubisoft
no i really don't; we all got +25% CHC/CHD/mag/reload just recently from redline overdrive, what else could i be talking about!!
but yea i noticed that my ammo went back to 71 on st elmo's so that caught me off guard
If you are aware we had an event I assume you are also aware that it ended right? 
I am looking to do bounties not accessible anymore (have done houndsman and krampus), what else can I ask for? I'm new tryin to get the apparel and drops
no, i wasn't aware it ended, that's why i'm asking - i thought it would last a week or something (i'm also not currently playing so i can't check either)
I want to access the Division 2 PTS server. How can I do that?
Nice I added u 👍
Let me start the game backup
should be in your library, the forums here are locked behind the role in id:customize
It’s not showing up in my library, and I’m using Ubisoft Connect.
you got the drop ?
YES! Honestly ur so goated for this. I can't thank u enough!
Big shoutout to Lt Carter for being such a w dude 😁
Your welcome and I'm a girl lol
mb. U still the goat!
Should atleast cut the expertise lvl from 30 to 15 to be able to upgrade it to Prototype pls lol
You don't know how things work. You'll get enough materials to try whatever you want
Just bought division 2 ultimate edition. What to expect from this game?
A lot of fun
I hope so
On pts did they make the expertise adjustment to level your gear up to 30. They mentioned they would “lower the cost” for expertise for when prototypes launch …
Curious if they did what is the cost like compared to now
I mean when it is officially release to the OG server
They already said they'll make adjustments. We don't know yet how exactly but things will change e
Oh ahha
I just spent 175 hours in the last 2 weeks. Plan on getting total 1k hours on events and new updates
Yall are literally talking about this now ok haha
Is crossplay coming out in april?
Oh they are giving us cross play ?
Yeah its supposed to be coming out sometime this year
Theyre gunna have to add a legendary world tier difficulty now that stats are going up by 50% lol. Heroic 5 is already easy enough.
Finally gonna be able to play with some pc people in pve
At some point during Y8 apparently
Just wanna play with homie already ugh 😆
The only reason we hit all time high player base on steam upto 27k players
Things are still being adjusted tho right ? It might not be that big of an increase in the end
Does using guns and gear level up your proficiency or you have to donate materials to level it?
I hope they revert the stat changes and keep the augments for prototype gear honestly. Bigger number is bad powercreep
@fringe haven both work
Thank you
On the prototype gear does each piece of gear get an augment ? And if so do they stack
I went from 20 to 30 expertise in a week last time thy did the event where you multiplied the proficiency … my trick was running countdown setting loot to mods … break all the mods down and use the printer filaments to feed into the gear ..
It was a grind but I got it done
i think thats still one of the fastest ways to do it
Yeah .. oh and I forgot I’d also put on gear to make it go faster
Damn. I wish I would of done that lol
I think one of those events is coming up tho
I’m not on right now to check but I thought I saw it in the schedule
Uhhhh I went to bed last night with 37 round AR capacity and 12 round marksman capacity. Woke up this morning with a max of 30 AR and max 10 marksman. Absolutely nothing was changed on my guns but now I have less ammo capacity? Lol
There was an event that increased everything it is done now
i noticed that legendary content and retaliation is the best to like target farm loot and countdown is actually not that good loot does not seem to be spaening with as good stats as when playing both the other modes
Lovely. I guess I picked a bad time to pick up the game. Gonna take a bit to get used to the lower capacity and longer reload times lol
Guys a question, just did a challenging true sons retaliation and saw that I received a st elmo blueprint from a killsquad, how do I craft it? I can’t see it in my crafting bench, sorry I’m new to the endgame
but these events always rotate something new is surely coming sometime soon
lol yeah .. I could see the confusion too then if you just came back haha
it should be in your crafting bench under the exotics tab at the bottom of the main list
Yeah I'm brand new to the series haha. I have like maybe 20 hours into it
Did you boost?
Oh you’re new new haha welcome agent
Weird I don’t see it there
Thank you!! Loving it so far haha
There’s a diamond logo at the bottom right when opening the crafting bench
When you click it it should take you to another page and then scroll til you find the ARs
Hmm alright let me take a look, thansk guys for the help
Yeah man it’s a great game it’s my first looter shooter before I played other MMOs but this game is fun and I love that you can play it color or in groups
Nice I see it, awesome, didn’t know it was categorized on the bottom right, I went straight to the weapons tab haha, thanks vert and homeslice 🙂
I did the same haha when I first came back
So what’s the difference between a dark zone and invaded dark zone. Is it just the fact black tusk is there
No DZ turrets at spawn either, some other details I can't recall rn
Is there a way to make sure a control point stays mine?
nah, the game hinges on you doing these activities so you'll lose it eventually afaik
its a shame there isnt a separate map that lets you permanently conquer CPs and other POIs and then defend them once a week in a tower defense/horde mode type of scenario
not really, your world keeps running even after you log out
retaliations are basically the control point rush game mode for that
but you want control points to be available to be taken anyway, they affect the surrounding activities and they give rewards when taken
so i just finished the project the unlock the quest for the regulus do i have to wait until next reset for the pieces to drop or can i just do it now
It makes sense control points are being lost and gained, it’s a war for territory
And the enemy is stronger
I played a little bit of The First Descendant and it was fine but the whole theme/vibe was just not it for me. This game however is everything I wanted for the most part. I've heard there's an extraction mode being added later this year too so I'm looking forward to that
It woulda been cool like as you see civilians progress in strength you start seeing them using more gadgets
Not to the level of other factions but more simple stuff
Also man I hate how the rioters got diminished to a reskinned CSGO terrorist
OH! I GOT A RANDOM EXOTIC DROP
Hell yeah!
I didn’t know that was a thing
im gettin ragebaited last 3 countdowns had like 3 mins left where were js doin helicopters nd someone always callin exfil 💔
they should just block that you cant call it too early
people are throwing too much
like the 3rd time i said in chat so it hopefully wouldnt happen but ofc ts happens again
js tryna build a one shot build for whne new season comes around nd those xp events happen
I’ve done countdown like once and I had no idea what I was doing
Yet still everyone followed me as the leader. I was the most brightly colored so, I guess
How do I up my damage to effectivly do events,I have striker set an still cannot seem to do anything to elits
Division 2 map comprises of the entire Washington DC city? I'm playing the game so much that I'm recognizing place names from a book I'm reading,lol
The new difficulty, does anybody know if it will be permanently or only for the season ?
Only for the season
I use striker an Elmo and yesterday I did a heroic with one guy 443 watch and I’m 68 blew through like water I was melting things idk but I usually struggle with damage. Range says my build has a 2.1m dps with full stacks. Years ago I had a build using no set pieces and winter smg/long barrel smg with laser pointer I can’t remember the name an I was doing 3x more dmg wish I could find a actual build site where people showcase builds to try
The realism mode?
is the new gear "revamp" suppose to be prototype?
No, the new difficult they Will add. With tier
Ohh ok
permanent
like 99% sure cuz its the main way to get prototype gear nd stuff nd its something for like the shd lvl 15000 ppl to do
Are u sure?
pretty sure
They said Escalation was a permanent mode
It's permanent addition to the game.
Anyone have the houndsman bounty and could help me get the Quickstep?
what do i have to level up to get to expertise 30
Your gear, weapons, skills
levelling up by using everything
no it's only a partial map of the city, mainly broken down to a couple recognizable neighborhoods/landmarks
Not all of it tho, forgot how many you need to complete
the more you use, the more proficiency increases
well i mean how many things exactly
and it goes for anything
cause i have so much already but im only level 5
Is that houndsman outfit still obtainable? Literally the coolest thing I've seen pop up in shorts but it was a while ago lmao
alot
+400 levels of all the items combined, it's plenty to throw at the wall for
No, it's a store bundle by now
You could get the gloves, backpack and mask from the bounty tho
ahh, got it. Thanks! Is it still the all black one? I just googled it and it mentioned "bloodied"?
There are two variants. The regular one and a Bloody Houndsman version
1 little question. Can I get based Ironworks materials outside raid?
The original one is the store cosmetic bundle
amazing - thank you brother.
for my feedback for Escalation, I think it need some targeting farming in the missions
That way, it easier to farm the Prototype gear
We eating good this year I hear
Cross play next month
Come back to div 2 after another year or two for proto gear farming--
any update if Realism mode will be a permanent thing?
It is not a permanent thing. It might come back at some point
Source: recent dev stream on Twitch
What’s the best way to farm for the oxpecker SMG ?
I wanted to try the shield build with it, or it it not worth it
how long does it usually take for the PTS blueprints cache to stop clicking?
targeted smg loot
I've been here for 5 minutes, I'm just going to quit and restart lol
ngl I'm so depressed. I had a tremendous time with Realism mode. Going back to regular Division 2 is like going back to a toxic ex after you just connected with the kindest and prettiest girl you've met. I can't even touch any of the other stuff like descent or summit now
The stuff you see on YT is not really good, FYI
Where’s the best place to look ?
trying to run Legendary on Manning National Zoo for Giraffe. Join PantyDropper15
If you have any build questions just ask in there and someone will help you
Bro, players are making a revolution crowd on the "prototype gear" chat. Haven't seen chat like that since seasonal characters were implied to be a new mechanic a few years back. 
god I forgot about Seasonal characters
what an awful idea lmao
I'm so glad that was scrapped
diablo style. terrible idea indeed
Is it worth doing the story missions on heroic despite being max level already ?
I mean, all sources of XP are good as it contributes to your SHD watch level.
So that's the only reason ?
You will be running missions on higher difficulty repeatedly regardless
True
Unless you want to also farm for specific exotics that drop from specific bosses, yes.
heroic missions means you'll also get generally better drops, no?
Better gear stats and higher chances for named and exotic gear.
right
Seasonal is awful, in any game that's not a Diablo/POE style game it just doesn't belong
Guess they had to balance the anarchy that was Zealot Red Core Rampage somehow
Anyone know why my stats changed when I put my set back on? I was at 66 crit chance and 170 crit dmg but now that I swapped something out and back on, its dropped to 30 and 110?
what if like we can just tinker the max damage and stuff of the weapons we use already. Is it still worth doing heroic? As opposed to challenging I can finish challenging in a third of a time of a mission
There was an Overdrive Event which is now over
The Redline Overdrive event has expired, IIRC. Everything's back to normal now
we had a +25% CHC/CHD (among other things) event going that ended overnight
ohhh okay thank you
quick question, do the hunter missions (masks) reset after a restart. Did one step by step but a bounty spawn prevented the hunter from spawning (Im assuming)
speaking of, I want all of these overdrive events to happen at once on April fools
total sensory overload
Guys, I think I figured that out... the Prototype gear is the April fool's joke. Now everything makes sense.
Oh, I just realized I have Overdogs. I guess it's a super rare drop? I am miffed I can't mod the appearance haha
Just use cheat engine, ez.
You can override their appearance with shop items/glove apparel
inb4 it's actually just a gear set that's both Blacklisters and Glass Cannon on steroids
But without the damage buffs
My birthday is on 1st of April. I am myself a joke.
And everybody automatically does 600% amp dmg to you and even friendly fire activates just from catching sight of you.
someone wants to join my early game campaign?
Try over in #lfg-pc
With heartbreaker set, can i still use like any wep/skill? or is it really beneficial to use thing that pulse?
With the technician laser you don't even need a pulse.
So switch from gunner to tech? But even so without that, is the set good enough to just use as is?
Hello, quick question, is the keenan fight always this horrible? Full of bugs, what can i do about it so i can finish this bastard already lol
Somewhat yes and no
Im getting shredded in heroic retaliations, i melt them fast but i take so much damage, i need a better setup
Cover is your friend, use some skills
Hey chat, is there a way to get lexington rn?
No
Cool, thanks.
get a M4 on this case, it's basically a Lexington on Ebay
Yh maybe i just need to learn to position right
Any idea when will it be back?
Like do people use full damage setups in harder content?
yes
It's a special item that is limited to special events. Usually it's part of the Stretch Goals event end of a season
yeah, a lot with strikers and HHs builds
I’ll stick with st elmo till i get lexi
Get a Police M4 or Carbine 7
I see ty guys then L2p issue on my part
Lexington is basically a Police M4 with 5% increased base damage
Cool, good to know
how to reduce my aggro
bc it feels like enemies only target me
You just kill NPCs faster
Decoy, drone, turret
since you are solo, they are always targeting you.
And you can use skills to divert aggro from yourself temp. with a decoy for instance
me when i’m peacefully sitting behind cover with a team and im actively doing nothing then i get 6 grenade launcher shots in my direction
How insanely true
or the mini gunner emptying his whole pack in my direction while my teammates unload clips into him
Me went: Whats Did I do?
the issue here is my team is actively shooting at him
so what r we doing here
Existing
looking at
and
when i say this
they are the biggest culprits of this
true but not as bad bc they hand throw
Not if they have like millions turret.
Especially Last Season.
true
can you prototype the enforcer shotgun to give it higher stats?
Hi, quick question: is it still possible to get the Lexington or not?
So In next season we get new rng late game boss? Prototype upgrade without stats reroll and locking talent will be new main boss in this game. This rng after leveling to expertise 30 is insane. No stats reroll. Horrible. It will be hardest casino in this game. Imagine getting you only one Lexington to prototype and getting only maxed health damage? And Lexington main advantage is changeable talent. What a bad devs decision…
Nope, but if there's stretch goals next season you can get it then
Ah ok, got it, thanks
hey just got the game again but on pc used to play on my PlayStation but its been years would like to find a consistent group to play with grind missions and do pvp is there a good group to play with here?
Anybody with the houndsman bounty willing to help me get the quickstep? I would really appreciate it.
they will sell rerolls in the cash shop
ah okay thank you
Maybe they hire some people from Bungie or mobile gacha? Feels like this prototype high cost casino similar to them.
anyone know where the snitch is today?
He spawns randomly. Search for "snitch" here in discord to find more details
Alright, my bad, thanks for the info
All good
As a returning player that hasn’t played for years should I boost to 40
yo i forgot, can you actually get the exotic weapon on the overworld before you get it on the battlepass or do you have to unlock it first from the battlepass?
battlepass first, then it becomes a regular drop, older exotics from previous battlepass are already on open world
anyone know how to get The Gift?
actually dont know since this the game anniversary
Named item caches
build station website should get updated asap haha I need to build
Thank you
what do u need to build?
Hey guys
I’m Claire from TN USA
What’s good
least obvious fed
if u dont care about the story at all, then yeah. even then, starting where you left off or starting clean will help u get used to all the controls and gameplay again
Darkzone I got mine rare though
Fastest way to get food to donate? Need 220 @edgy fable
Uh - I think Solar Farm area has also plenty food, not just mats
Resource convoys
Hello Mrs from TN USA
Whats TN?
Probaly look for Food Area icon zones
Tennessee, the state
Oh oh I see. Im not from around here so Doesnt know some of Abbrev.
All g
lmao i just stumbled on the content filter in here in a p. funny way
Någon svensk clan som kör?
i got the overlord shotty wth is this thing
Hello little question, i have TD2 on ubisoft launcher, if i pay an extension on steam i don't get it on ubi launcher?
whats the "meta" on doing priority objectives? do u aim for activities or smth else?
What are the best agent skills for doing the summit?
Always depends on your build
im on level 77
You want i invit u?
does anyone have any spreadsheets they would be willing to share?
What are some of the bounties we can do that were limited? Like Krampus and Houndsman. Are there more that were limited that we can still access?
No, just Krampus and two Houndsman bounties
will you still be able to get big alejandro after the anniversary ends in 1 week?
Thank you
Yes of course
anyone else in connect not getting the pts?
Last question for now, is it still possible to get the tinkerer mask?
winkerer?
Winkerer = potomac event center, you have to make it in "maître" in french i think it's english (after heroic difficulty) for get 100% to get it
I feel like a masochist for doing all the strongholds on heroic with all directives with my current gear..
New Winkerer exotic, let's gooooooo.
That's the Div 2 elite in a nutshell right there buddy.
Welcome to the club. 😌😌
Legendary is next though..
Elite: Solo Heroic
The Veteran: Solo Legendary

O yah, forgot to tell you you have that step still to take--
The only Solo Heroic I ever done is 2 Cp. not mission yet
Yes pm me if you want
ngl, spamming the HELP button should cause control point attack captains to drop everything to pick you up
I'm kinda sick of having them completely ignore me
The only use they have is to distract enemies
Yes
I have a question I’m sure everybody has done in here a long time ago. I just finished up getting the 8 Hunter masks in DC. But I only have 7/8 ivory keys… how do I get the 8th?
Midas and Revenant only dropped one key.
Gotta check the YouTubes fr.
You might have to kill them again, that's been a bug for a while
try relogging and go back to that spot
the key might just be sitting there
you cant prototype skill gear?
It’s a bug yeah. Log back in and go to the chest and the key will be there @wanton oriole
😀
so skill builds will be the easiest to farm then
And weakest also, yah---
well weakest i wouldnt say that off the bat
Compare that to 1.5× dmg or even armor on all 6 armor pieces fr.
I logged out and in and went to the chest and no luck 🤔
But yah, you do get to buff skill sub stats still.
funny you said that cuz armor gives 0 damage
still weakest because 0 damage
i dont think thats the point hes trying to make, basically there is little incentive to do prototype skill builds when you dont benefit from something else additionally
but i think they might change this
Yah, u still boost skill sub stats.
a random attribute gets buffed so it's not all useless.
yeah but its all in all worse than the other 2
I convinced bro so fast fr.
like red builds will essentially be much stronger than any skill builds
or armor builds will also get much stronger
that doesn't mean anything. if you take all 3 pure core builds into a mission, the blue core build is going to perform worst, because again, 0 damage
is this ragebait?
quick maffs: 8 * 0 = 0
Where did 8 come from again teach---
an IQ to high 🐦⬛
Is that prototype stuff out now?
Comes out with new season
Oh nice, whats it supposed to do?
Prototype gear have their own special buff (think of it like a baby talent) and increases base weapon dmg on weapons, base armor on gear
You can upgrade your existing gear so its a little different from classified gear from TD1
Just don't expect the protot system to be FULLY refined until a year or 2 down the line tho---
That sounds pretty cool
Maybe idk, they made quick changes to Retalation when it came out, I just worry they're doing a lot at one time with a smaller team
i dont know why they introduce a fully new like fresh gear system so late into the games lifecycle
Players need something fresh to grind for
yeah but basically everyone starts fresh
no?
well game needed escalation at least
yes
something that scales with higher and higher so people really have a challenge
No
If you are not max expertise on all your gear you have pretty much no chance of completing the highest tiers of escalation
proto i'm more pro than no because i would like to see the weird things when you go overcap with hazard pro and other stats
Just finished my first legendary mission let’s go
Because if its not the case then its not designed the way they promised, if you could complete say the hardest mission without needing that extra damage, I think players that worked really hard for exp 30 will not be happy
well its probably not needed
content is getting too easy when everyone's exp30
i think exp 29 will also work
I'm sure they have it in mind that people who will play the hardest escalation mission will be min maxed, and thats who they will gear the content towards
especially, with recent time-limited events, Legendaries became a joke
@slow vortex
Sure, I just mean if someone is exp 14 and they think they will be just fine being the average player. Good design for the mode would mean the average player requires a reasonable exp for how good they are
he just needs some more bullets
just shoot a bit more
Legendaries weren't designed for the average player in the first place, but now anyone can do it without hiccups.
What if ur taking too long to kill the guy and you get drone swarmed because of it, or the shotgunners are sponging because you thought ur expertise 12 st elmos striker build would be enough
It might change over time, of course making things more casual tends to keep players on a game bc most gamers are casual
This event right now has everyone feeling like a maxed out DPS build, and I think the playerbase is blooming atm (of course the game was on super sale too)
until one reaches the full potential of what their playstyle, skill level and builds can do, there's no telling what needs to be improved.
i dont think 16% damage is really gonna effect this, im sure there are some crazy builds that dont need to be fully optimized to still do unimaganble amounts of damage
misread the message goddammit
Tbh 16% dmg is a big deal
just shoot 16% more bullets 
cough cough determined cough cough
What if you have 16% less time
theres a timer?
yes
ahh well then that changes things
as much as I partially agree with what you said, if you lack damage, and even if you can stay alive, you will run out of ammo.
Killing enemies quickly enough also buys time, you will get swarmed if enemies are sponging ur dmg
you need it to be perfect, or else you will get kicked by the host anyway lmao
I think lobby hosts will be toxic lmao
I've done DUA so far and it's got a 1-hour timer. who even takes that long to be worried about it?
you can
i was watching a yt viseo the person in question was not able to upgrade some pieces, maybe bug
exotics can't be prototyped
they probably didn't know you need to unequip the gear to prototype it
or that
My favorite builds are high end and named so works for me
ok so my problem with Escalation isn't the scaling. it just lacks enemies.
How does gear work in PTS? Do they give you gear to start with and Expertise or do you start with nothing?
if a exotic piece would be prototyped what color would it get?
Hello guys returning player here
I recently did the Jefferson Center manhunt mission and it said the mission reward is blueprint of the bluescreen LMG
However when I go back to crafting station nor talk to the lady besides crafting station I didn’t see the gun available for me
I l checked on guides from YouTube but still find it confusing
Does it actually mean that by completing the mission this gun is now added to loot table for me? Or it got other meaning
from one of the caches you get a meta striker set already prototyped (4pc Strikers + Equalizer) but they come with random attributes which is KEKW. one of the other caches will give all the resources needed to prototype / reroll augments
Ahh w
resources aren't the problem. I spent 15 minutes getting 6 pieces up to exp30
I can prototype my ACR and make it usable, since St Elmos is out
i think purple would be cool
blueprint to reroll the weapon, you need to farm it
thanks man
Back to farming then
Hello, I'm a new player. I have a question. I have blue Striker gear, but I've seen people on YouTube with green gear. I don't really know what the difference is or if it even matters.
Blue is green but with a colorblind filter
I must have turned something on in the options. I'll have to go look. Thanks for the help.
No, green is normal 😄 Blue is with colorblind filter
but they have blue.
I don't know how the heck I turned the color blind filter on.
this is boutta be the worst update to a good video game ive ever seen
Ive seen worse
nah
we had an update?
Wdym, blue is obviously the color for a classified set 
nah the april 2nd one
gonna break half the community off with it
why do you think so?
You have nothing like that turned on. Many players turn on color blind mode for PvP because you can see the impact area of skills better. That also results in the gear sets looking blue
plot twist he's actually colorblind and is seeing the wrong color
more gear for the people buying and selling accounts and more shit for cheaters to abuse without ever addressing the issue for 7 years. They supported cheaters from the moment the game began because thats where the money is
Ngl I thought of that for a moment
and you think that constitutes half the community?
i mean over 25% of the community uses cheats
ooookaaaay
at least double that are sick of the cheats
easy fix yet no dollar spent on fixing the games #1 glaring issues. but yeah lets get more gear for them to pummel loyal fans with
cutos ubisoft. another franchise boutta sink
I may be slow but The Turmoil knees - I can't gain profeciency or work on expertise for those; is that working as intended or nah
Where you pulling those numbers from?
experience
Also, what "cheats"?
igu one sec heres a list
1 in 4 players cheat in PvE, is what you're claiming?
anecdotal, trust me bro lol
Hit me with your list, please
never said pve i said the game as a whole.
and i cant post the list wont let me
PvP can largely be ignored since only ~2% of players do PvP
You can send me a dm
ok and that is a clear sign cheating is outta hand
no pvp players in a game that had a revered gamemode for pvp known as the DZ
no? 98% of people simply aren't into PvP
I'm genuinely curious about your list. Please send it to me via DM
and thats because pve players dont wanna do pvp as is, and with cheaters running the pvp section, they cant compete. so they never even try
when did you start playing, oh experienced player?
caveat to that, if you think Determined counts as cheats, I will agree with you
I think all global events and modifiers count as cheats----
I agree
I'm not the only one, let's gooooooo.
Couldn't properly test out new weapons because of that overdrive one. 😭😭😭
Cheating is bad, but game handing out cheats is good, right???
