td2-general-chat

[dry gate]

you want your main items you love using to be at proficiency level 10.. then you can increase expertise on them to I believe 28.

[granite perch]

ohhh i seee

[gentle canyon]

i always figured it was better to get mats until you are capped out that way you can at least swap the trait with another before optimizing, but maybe i should be doing that first(donating)

[dry gate]

so i.e. I run a striker build as a main farming build.. I had set items equipped and my favorite gun at the moment St. Elmos.. the more I used it the more proficiency my Striker brand got and St. Elmos.. even without donating.. cause I was using it.. so my sstriker gear and St. Elmos had proficiency at level 10.. then expertise started and now I'm about 9 expertise on them..

but donating junk to expertise panel allows you to gain proficiency on items you don't necessarily use at the moment but it will raise their proficiency. So once you do use them eventually you will be able to have decent expertise on them after a while..

a lot of people love their guns and specific build gear pieces.. so they will go into countdown and mark the brand or item type (i.e. AR for St. Elmos).. then they will get a TON of ARs. and they will donate all that into St. Elmos.. to raise it's expertise

Fillaments are also popular to level up specific items and you can buy them. so a lot of people go that route too.

[gentle canyon]

i think striker is great, can't wait to see how it will be with no crit cap next season

[granite perch]

i really appreciate you answering questions for me man really appreciate it

[dry gate]

anytime.. tons of people here answered all my questions like you had.. 🙂

[granite perch]

how can you use your junk for recalibration??

[dry gate]

recalibration is for exotics.. you basically recreate the item with random core and additional attributes.. this is how you basically change attribute you have on the exotic .. i.e. St. Elmos again as example.. if you got St. Elmos it comes with core attributes AR Damage, Health Damage but the 3rd attribute is random.. if you let's say you want Damage to Targets Out of Cover (DTOC) as the 3rd attribute you need to recalibrate the exotic.. this will basically destroy your existing one and recreate it with new random values for both core attributes and 3rd one.. you don't donate junk to recalibration.. each recalibration costs specific materials and exotic components..

and you also need to have that exotic too and it's blueprint.. that's why when you get a new exotic you want to go back to Inaya and buy that blueprint right away.. with it then you can recalibrate the exotic

[granite perch]

nice

nothing happens when i click donate all junk in expertise

[dry gate]

it does.. it can be just tiny tiny progress sometimes so you won't even see it.. just hold X and when it goes it will be it.. you should see the change in your expertise/proficiency change even tiny bit.. they don't have a very specific notification so it feels like it did nothing.. just pay attention a bit more you will see it does.. expertise is meant to be a long term thing so it goes fairly slow

you will need quite a bit of junk donations to even go one level up..

[granite perch]

but the items are still in my inventory

[undone timber]

You already have the proficiency maxed

On that item/brand

[dry gate]

^

[granite perch]

do i need to mark it as junk or do i have to mark it as donation??

[dry gate]

as junk

the button on the Expertise tab tells you "X | Donate All Junk" 🙂

[wanton night]

so each agent account will have e credits independent from each other after the 27th?

[dry gate]

e-credits are already independent..

[wanton night]

will they stay the same

[dry gate]

from what we know yes.. the thing they are changing is shared scav points on new agents.. they will be only used on one..so if you use your scav points they will give at DLC launch, you won't be able to see them when you make a new agent @tender wave knows this better.. but I believe that's the only change they will do. Even the overcaps will not be touched. So who has TONS of them overcapped they will still have it.

[granite perch]

the item still stays in my inventory

[dry gate]

check on that item if you have profiency badge on it.. if you do, it will not donate it.. so you can dismantle it for mats

[granite perch]

how do i check that?

[dry gate]

I shared you a screenshot in ask the community.. we can post screenshots there

[gentle canyon]

thanks for the reminder on this! I just recalibrated my st elmos to get the dmg out of cover, i heard that is the best 3rd stat bar none. but if i wanted to reroll for a higher number on things i would have to lose everything right? since it needs the weapon itself so better to optimize at this point

[granite perch]

is that the patch that has a star on it?

[dry gate]

that's right.. I had 2 core attributes maxed but I had Crit Chance .. and it was too expensive to even upgrade that.. so I had to make my peace and recalibrate.. sadly that's how it works.. unless you get another version of that exotic

[dry gate]

yes.. it's a shield with a star on it.. that means the item is proficient

[granite perch]

so if it has a badge like that i can donate it??

[dry gate]

no.. that means your item/brand is already proficient..so it will stay in your inventory and you can dismantle it for mats

[gentle canyon]

got it, i got a coyote's mask with just needing one optimization for weapon dmg to get to max and came with max crit and cdmg

assuming that is a perfect roll

[granite perch]

so if it already has proficiency level 10 i can no longer donate to it right?

[wanton night]

going blind using 60 k scavenging points .. max expertise/// exotics set to 12 ... on accounts already stacked with resources.. (1st world problems..lol)

[dry gate]

yes.. your expertise rises the more items you have proficient. Then you can upgrade that specific item by putting more mats into it to the level of your expertise.

[granite perch]

so can i donate to increase proficiency??

[wanton night]

yes

[dry gate]

So again, let's take St. Elmos example again.. my St. Elmos is proficient, I've been donating a ton of mats to my proficiency everywhere in the library.. my expertise level was growing.. so now since my St. Elmos is proficient (10) and I'm level 10 expertise, I have 73/418 items proficient.. so since i'm level 10 expertise and my St. Elmos is proficient, I can upgrade my St. Elmos 10 times to get 10% increased weapon damage on it applied to it's base weapon damage..

so when you are donating junk you are raising proficiency on all items in your expertise library (from the brands/items you've marked junk). The goal is to get the items to proficiency level 10 to be fully proficient.

Once they are proficient, you can upgrade them for mats up to the max expertise you are at.. your overall expertise however is tied to the number of items you have proficient. With maximum expertise being I believe level 28. This means that if you have a chest piece that's proficient, you can upgrade it 28 times to get 28% armor applied to the base armor of that chest item. Same with weapons.

It's a long game.. And it takes forever.. and also once you hit expertise 12, upgrading items beyond that will require exotic components as well and other valuable materials. That's why everyone had mules. Field Recon Data, SHD recalib. mats, exotic components, fillaments are all incredibly valuable and hard to come by, thus the mules.

[wanton night]

wow

[granite perch]

got it bro i really appreciate the explanation

which core attribute should i prioritize, smg damage or critical hit chance?

[dry gate]

every item has "core attributes" and regular attributes. The core attributes are always the same albeit with randomized values.. the non-core attributes are random. Thus you farm for them to get higher values before you do any optimization as optimization costs an arm and a leg.

So in the case of your weapon, SMGs natively have SMG damage + Critical Chance core attributes as core. So you almost always want DTOC (damage to targets out of cover) to as the regular attribute as it is the highest damaging stat currently. It's also multiplicative bucket on it's own.

The reason it's so strong is because it applies that multiplicative damage to both armor and health of the enemy.. so it's kind of overall DPS strong attribute. Damage to Armor for example is also strong, and multiplicative however it only applies to armor of the enemies.. so you can see why DTOC is better option.

On LMGs for example, the core attrs are LMG damage + DTOC by default, so that's where you really want Damage to Armor for example as the regular attribute.. to get more damage out of it .. some people in certain builds use Crit chance on LMGs because they usually have low crit chance compared to SMGs for example.

[granite perch]

do u need to have your items in your inventory while on the tinkering station or even the ones in the stash will appear on the tinkering station?

[granite perch]

got it

[dry gate]

yes.. you need to have the item on you to tinker with it or in the case of exotic to recalibrate.. stash doesn't count

loadouts will actually pull items from your stash for what the loadout needs even if you are not at the stash for example.. which is neat.. but to tinker/recalibrate you actually have to have an item with you.

[granite perch]

thanks

i really appreciate you bro

and another thing, why can't i extract the headshot damage on the white death marksman rifle?

[jagged prism]

because it's a perfect stat like the perfect talents

[granite perch]

so its not extractable?

[jagged prism]

keep trying if you want i guess?

[granite perch]

so what do i do with the ones that has the perfect talents though?

[jagged prism]

whatever you want, dismantle them for materials, sell them for ecredits or keep them so you have it for something later

[iron tide]

man got 4-5 cheska parts of each yet only 1 chest plate

[jagged prism]

ha ha yeah, but once you're done you might have more ceska pieces and would have to filter through ones you don't want to keep and others for maybe some kind of future build

[iron tide]

the future build thing is the reason why the other day i had 400+150x2 space taken

[jagged prism]

i know that feeling honestly, did that before the 100 stash increase and had to go through 3 alts and figure out "would this be good to keep or destroy for materials?"

found myself keeping most named items especailly if they're the DZ exclusives everything else just poof gone XD oh and exotics, definitely keeping 1 of each for now

[iron tide]

my main game i play has 200 stash tabs that can fit items depending on what item it is two handers take the most space

and im a big hoarder the worst game with the most loot is borderlands

most loot least space

[jagged prism]

was about to guess borderlands

[iron tide]

last time i checked bl2 had like 50 space not sure tho

[jagged prism]

couldn't say, haven't gone through 1, or 2 that i can remember of. think 3 i had a buddy is like come on l05t let's play some borderlands 3 or something maybe

[iron tide]

but then again this was 1 year after bl2 came out and was xbox360 so maybe unmodded pc version was different

[granite perch]

how do i increase the skills expertise level?

[jagged prism]

either equipping the skill and gaining experience until proficient
donating materials in the expertise menu until proficient

[granite perch]

what items do i donate for skills?

[jagged prism]

people tend to use Printer Filament as it only take 30 of them
other things are the Steel, Polycarbonate, Electronics and other things we can obtain off the watch so far

[iron tide]

24 keys 3 new items the apparel one what do i do with these textiles i have 12575

[jagged prism]

find the Snitch
visit danny for some caches

[granite perch]

should i be purchasing all blueprints from inaya weekly??

[full zinc]

printer filament as mentioned. when was grinding out expertise i also donated protective fabric and receiver components when they would fill up.
basically anything full is ok to donate as long as you are keeping enough for miscellaneous upgrades/projects/crafting

there wont be a ton for sale from her, but it doesnt hurt to check and buy

[granite perch]

because you also need to complete the blueprints right?

[jagged prism]

no, but it helps with a lot of build theories
if you want to expedite getting more blueprints running yoru world on challenging/heroic will set the controls to 3/4 where completing them will give you blue prints

though a good majority is probably tied in Descent game mode, but i think those are the named pieces

[opal ibex]

its 3k filament to up something from 0-10 but for skills i would honestly say to just run them in builds you dont use one of the skills often in, donating things arent worth it unless you have the resources for it 🙂

[granite perch]

thanks a bunch guys i think id die figuring these things out for myself, i really appreciate the division 2 community

[opal ibex]

also for just regular gear and guns dont bother donating any materials if ur still under lvl 17 expertise 🙂 its better to just keep them to optimize or do other stuff with

[jagged prism]

the material donating is more like if you enjoy gathering them legitimately in a routine or
you're high shd level where you level a character to 40, get watch spend points on materials and donate
delete angent and relevel again

[full zinc]

you definitely need to farm blueprints, a lot of weapon attachments and optimization blueprints are kindof essential

[jagged prism]

most important are those optimization blueprints

[full zinc]

yeah 3k

[torpid tendon]

I'd recommend saving the resources for the raid/incursion exotics, if you want max exp and not doing the raids ofc.

[full zinc]

or all the crit chance attachments

[opal ibex]

also whenever you do choose to donate filament please make sure their dz exclusive items or unobtainable/exotic items u wont use much, anything you can get as normal loot you shouldnt donate resources to

[full zinc]

yeah, agreed. unavailable items and skills you really hate should be getting the excess mats

[torpid tendon]

I think I'm finally getting my regulus tomorrow

[full zinc]

nice

[torpid tendon]

I think I only need to run IH once.

[opal ibex]

oh and please dont donate exotic guns or gear, u will need a shitload of exotic components eventually, with y7 you will need 90 components to up something from 12-30😅

[full zinc]

yeah as long as all projects are done youre gold

[sour void]

Kinda wished Dodge City Holster acted like Determined for the Regulus. Instant CC blast

[torpid tendon]

Yeah, I have the one I need to colect the 5 pieces.

[full zinc]

should be more in the 70 range

[opal ibex]

its currently 72 to go from 12-28 🙂

[full zinc]

fair, itll be 80 or so then

im just glad is isnt in the 200 range like original costs would have driven it

[opal ibex]

its 9 for both 28>29 and 29>30 so ends in a total of 90, its getting crazy expensive 😅

[nocturne hare]

atleast they give them aout like candy now though

[full zinc]

why do you expect it to hit 30?

[opal ibex]

what was the original cost im kinda curious ? i only started about a year ago😅

[full zinc]

55 to expertise 20, 20 exoo each level after that

[sterile scaffold]

Anyone actually get an EB or similar from the crates?

[torpid tendon]

Btw, we tried doing the Incursion in duo. It was fun but we couldn't get past the Wright🥲

[jagged prism]

they did mention cutting expertise costs down didn't they? so what if it's lower than you guys anticipate? (> <)

[nocturne hare]

stepdad got a rav in first 10 levels, I've got none in about 100

[jagged prism]

i feel people been photoshopping them in (> <)

[opal ibex]

because of the items added (new skills and mask from the dlc and all the other gear from the basic update) and because of the state of lvl 28 rn, i think its at 70/90 if u have full proficiency on all items

[sterile scaffold]

Seriously

[jagged prism]

PTS definitely was 30 or something i believe as well?

[opal ibex]

oh hell no that sounds like a crazy timesink😭

[full zinc]

there is a possibility of them moving the goal post tho. lower level proficiency was a lot more than 90 incriments/prof levels

[torpid tendon]

Btw, is this even doable without ravenous? I mean, we're just casuals lol 🤔

[jagged prism]

i was trying to get something, but i haven't gotten anything except exodus gloves or oxpeckers

[full zinc]

i wont be complaining if it does hit 30 tho. my mortar needs a bump up
-# Mortar Supremacy

[sterile scaffold]

Yeeeeep

[gentle canyon]

how do you ready up or cancel ready up for the decent in a group?

[opal ibex]

you mean that they might change the levels required to level up ? i feel like they would only change something like that after 30 but even then, every update adds enough to get 1 level at 90 so i dont see them dropping it tbh

[sterile scaffold]

I've seen more exotics in a heroic run

[full zinc]

its a fair assumption for sure, and as mentioned by Lost pts did see level 30 upgrades,(taking his word). but iit really just depends on devs, if they want 2 expertise levels or not

[opal ibex]

i could send u a clip of how to easily do it ? just 1 dps 1 healer and u can onephase 🙂

[opal ibex]

use the backfire and bloody knuckles 🙂 if u and ur healer train a little u can easily onephase

[opal ibex]

i hope they go through with it, lvl 30 backfire is going to shred time and space lol

[torpid tendon]

Not sure if you can send links here, but I'm interested tho. It was super fun doing it duo.

[full zinc]

just pm

[opal ibex]

ill send it in your dms 🙂 just a clip not a link so dont worry 😄

[jagged prism]

i was masochitic enough to attempt to solo it but failed a lot and gave up XD

[low lily]

Ye backfire is beast definitely

[opal ibex]

haha yea first time i used it i was amazed by it, cant go without it now lol

most of the time im able to take down 4 drones aswell at tanker if im with a group that doesnt use jammer

[low lily]

I think I kinda lvl-d it upto 28 and then played Incursion once and then kinda stopped playing 😂😂

[jagged prism]

i can't say for sure, but i think where i know it usually shows our expertise level said 30, i was more focused on the alphabridge mask and finding fun combos

[opal ibex]

damn bro😫 u really need to try it more in the incursion, it shreds 2 drones in 1 mag lol

[torpid tendon]

@opal ibex Man tat was fire. Mind sharing the build? I would like to try it when I get the chance again.

[opal ibex]

check your dms 🙂 i sent the clip, build, and a little explanation there

[torpid tendon]

Oh i see you already sent it, ty

[low lily]

I don't have it me to push those 3k runs like Kiara 😂😂

[opal ibex]

you're welcome 😄

[opal ibex]

😭yea hes crazy lol, im calming down on the clears aswell, close to 500 atm

stopped speedrunning 4's aswell, just do duos now

[low lily]

Did Kiara hit those below 7s?

Or they don't Speedrun at all

[opal ibex]

i think hes at like high sub8, i cant see friends leaderboard since im not in a clan but hes nowhere to be seen near my time currently

[opal ibex]

he does but not like actual speeds

[low lily]

Ohh what you got?

[opal ibex]

not that fast but im currently at 7:11 🙂

without turret skip so couldve been a sub 6 easily

[low lily]

Nice nice ☺️

[opal ibex]

i just cant be bothered to go again eventho a sub 7 would be nice 😅 and thank u 🙂

[low lily]

Yeah I did it also so long ago but we only kinda tried couple of times but yeah if you have same squad to play then it's not that bad I remember we had always problem finding 4th 😂

[jagged prism]

have you tried Trioing it?

[low lily]

I have done it duo

I definitely could do it solo also but nahh

[jagged prism]

does the time change with less agents running it or does it get much longer as you have to juggle all the mechanics even more?

[low lily]

Definitely gets longer

But I would say 10min duo isn't that bad

[azure lintel]

was the prologue mission from the division 2 removed?

[low lily]

Ye

[azure lintel]

i just created a new character to take some screenshots and couldn't help but notice i was straight on DC

[opal ibex]

current world record for duo is 9mins i think, with good onephase and rush and a decent tanker time u can probably get 11mins without trying too hard, sub 11 will be a lot harder tho

[jagged prism]

did enough speed running iwth Darkhours when 30 was max level and the only brand/gears we had way back when
don't think i'd want to burn out on the game just to get speed records

but was just curious if lesser agents made killing them and doing mechanics a bit easier and faster, but sounds like not really

[opal ibex]

haha yea past a certain point its not worth it to keep going in my opinion, once your happy and proud of your pb then i would say to just do runs for fun and not actively try to get better times

[jagged prism]

nod group i did with got on the 1-3 leaderboard once and it was good enough XD

[low lily]

Honestly going for first spots you just have to spend so much time on them so not really worth it

[opal ibex]

ouu nice 😄 i bet that that felt amazing lol

[languid bay]

Anyone find it weird that this game has a huge expansion dropping in a week and there’s not even a page on PlayStation

[opal ibex]

haha yea thats the reason i stopped, a group wanted me to go for wr but i would have to train every day so after just a couple speedruns i kinda dipped

[jagged prism]

only strat i remember doing was having 2 snipers with A&8's builds and nemesis i think? or whatever equivalent back then highends
one would blast the helmet off the chunga the other would delete it
was amazing my first time watching it

[low lily]

On some point I wouldn't even really call it a skill it's just spending hundreds of hours for that amazing run, also usually top 5-10 are just separated by seconds

Can't write apparently 😭

[opal ibex]

after a certain point its just luck yea, one ad spawn that has one too many ads and run is already slower, one different animation somewhere and u lose time

[low lily]

Yeah one dumb spawn is already couple of seconds like that tanker spawn when they spawn all right front

[opal ibex]

lmaoo yea exactly, or doors take long to open eventho u did all the right things to force a quick spawn

[low lily]

Or those really late drones because why not

That's why I always love pvp more 😂

[opal ibex]

yea their so annoying but usually preventable with that one spot u stand in to force a quick spawn with them together

[low lily]

Ye that I know

I think soulless showed it to me back in the day

[opal ibex]

one big timesave now on lovebirds is no ads tho, turmoil kneepads basically kill all the ads so that shaves off like 5 seconds

[opal ibex]

haha never tried it much not my thing tbh😅 feels so different from other games

[low lily]

Well I haven't even played after turmoil but that's definitely nice to know

[low lily]

Also get ARC raiders when that comes 😂

[opal ibex]

ive heard about that game no clue what it is tho😫

lemme see on the ps store one sec

[low lily]

Nothing there it just had tech test

[languid bay]

When can i purchase battle for Brooklyn ?

[low lily]

When it launches

No pre order at all I think

[jagged prism]

aside the "notify me when i can buy it" you'd think we'd see something now

[languid bay]

Thats odd lmao youd think theyd want pre order sales

Its $30 right?

[low lily]

15

Candy money

[languid bay]

ITS ONLY $15??????

[low lily]

Ye so it definitely will be worth it even dlc being small

[jagged prism]

15 for base dlc 25 for deluxe with some cosmetics i'd assume

[languid bay]

Destiny fried my brain on how dlc should be priced i was thinking itd be like $30-40

[low lily]

It always depends how big are they, but yeah it think it comes with like 3 main missions and map is really small but there is definitely more like hunters and stuff

They really should've done it as a surprise dlc tho, consider how long ago they announced it 😅

[jagged prism]

like 2 areas, west and east of BOO there
4 control points
like ragnar said think it was 3 main missions
probably 4 side missions now labled "world missions" or something of that sort?

[languid bay]

Probably did it to give people a heads up so they can hop in and level up lmao

[low lily]

I mean we get the lvl 40 boost with that also

So people can instantly jump in

[languid bay]

Yea but its lame to skip the grind imo

[low lily]

Also makes sense for the people who just wanna play it for the story

Majority people don't wanna grind that much 😂

[jagged prism]

or for those who gets a buddy to play it
"use 40 boost so we can play together"

[low lily]

I mean 12.9% people only got to lvl 40 on playstation so

[languid bay]

That’s it dude?

[low lily]

Probably similar % for Xbox also , too lazy to search

[languid bay]

Sheesh lmao

[sacred thistle]

Trying to game?

[low lily]

It's 11% on Xbox

So yeah 😂😂

[jagged prism]

i'm betting a lot dropped off when there was that moment where you randomly got kicked from the game entirely

[low lily]

I think game isn't just that engaging at the beginning, you have to have that I will run missions 100+ times mentality

[jagged prism]

that too
or play it legitly running all the main missions, side missions then rerun missions until 40

[low lily]

IH still has 1.3% completion rate tho and I think discovery counts on that also

[languid pond]

IH is crazy

Haven’t done it in ages but man, without the right people/competence its not fun

[low lily]

@languid pond you Finnish?

[languid pond]

Naw

[low lily]

Oh okay 😂 I thought because of the name

[dry gate]

is there a similarily fast classified mission like National Bond Armory?

anyone know/remember?

[random spoke]

TD 2 s Campaign was more of a slow burn , what keeps me playing tho is kinda the present/postapocalypse setting

And the fun firefights

[spring pebble]

So i lost my momento to a group of cheaters and I've just been upset for the last hour lol

[lunar hare]

you can get exotics outside the dz too.

[spring pebble]

Yeah that's not the point loll

[lavish pollen]

How hard would y’all rate getting a tdi from the dark zone in terms of rarity making 10 being the most rare and hardest to get?

[lavish pollen]

You go to sleep

[lunar hare]

Negative.

[lavish pollen]

Put the phone down and go to sleep right now or no video games for you 😠

[opal ibex]

ive had more orbits drop and those were pretty rare for me, maybe try named caches those will probably drop it quicker

or descent and just get the blueprint for it 🙂

[lavish pollen]

I’m not talking named caches or descent I literally just want to know what kind of grind would be in store for it in the dz

[opal ibex]

hmmm maybe like a 7 on a scale to 1-10 but its just luck tbh

[lavish pollen]

Ty

[opal ibex]

ur welcome 🙂 dont take my word for it tho, its hard to put a number on it😅

[shrewd cosmos]

Maintenance again??

[lunar hare]

yes

[spring pebble]

Are there better exotics than momento or should I be mad af about that

[opal ibex]

imo memento isnt thaaat good, just kinda helps make things easier if u play solo

[lavish pollen]

Nope, only going down for you 😆

[elfin hazel]

oh right thats today

[lunar hare]

drib is doing the thing!

[elfin hazel]

I grabbed the wrong drink it would seem

[dry gate]

this maintenance thing is really starting to get a bit annoying.. didn't we have a 3 hour maintenance like a week ago.. they are clearly dealing with the server issues we've experienced..but still somewhat annoying

I was about to start my Michael Bay build and now no go

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'd imagine it's just prep for big DLC returns

so it'll probably go back to normal in a few weeks

[silent nymph]

It will be kinda cool to have the .475 wildly magnum in the game here

[abstract steppe]

Does it normally take 3 hours each Maint?

[elfin hazel]

yes

<t:1747737000:R> / <t:1747737000:t>

[abstract steppe]

now+3

[elfin hazel]

down for maintenance should be back up <t:1747737000:R> / <t:1747737000:t> (this is your local time) [reason along with patch notes is here](#server-status message)

[hallow hedge]

cant believe division 2 is 6 years old.. i remember playing the first 1 like yesterday

just started div2 is it still as fun?

[elfin hazel]

I'd say it is

[hallow hedge]

the game is really similar wich is nice hope if div3 is coming crossplay will be a thing

[zinc sky]

I'm still lowkey shocked that i got Bighorn literally 5 minutes into my first time in the DZ lol

[pliant sentinel]

the time feature is really helpful

[lavish pollen]

“Lowkey” 😆 why did a word have to be made up to replace “slightly” or “little” is beyond me

[zinc sky]

I feel you about that, but i got used to using it lol

[jagged prism]

sad thing is, noone looks at it and reads it will still ask "how long is the server down?" 😹

[pliant sentinel]

my dumbass was about to ask "is the server up" earlier

[zinc sky]

I did the legacy manhunt mission where you have to rescue Parnell from Viewpoint, i couldn't wrap my head around how that modifier there works. Can someone explain it to me?

I kept getting hit by random status effects out of nowhere lol

[jagged prism]

i forget the modiers but one that really urked people were the ones that got in your face and you reflected your own damage back to you

[zinc sky]

Constantly being disoriented or burnt out of the blue made this mission such a pain lol

Strangely, shock never really happened

[low lily]

I think if they have that wierd mark on they will do status effect on medium range or something like that

[dire moat]

Question. I've just gotten back into the game after about a year to check out the new dlc when I drops. Modifiers are new to me. Is there any way to unlock the modifiers I've missed over the time I've been gone or are they only available once?

[low lily]

Or was it long

[zinc sky]

Oof that'd piss me off big time lmao

[jagged prism]

yeah, i know you can bring up the menu outside the mission and read the modifiers there

[zinc sky]

Like, imagine oneshotting an enemy and you just collapse instead lol

[zinc sky]

I'd need to check later, I'm not home rn

[jagged prism]

nods yeah i just don't remember them all, just remember one reflected damage back to you if you were close enough

[zinc sky]

And the self-repairing boss at the end of that mission was annoying as hell

Like, i know you can kill the repair but still

[tender wave]

When you're in the mission, open inventory and go to the modifier section and it should tell you all the necessary information. If you're out of combat you should also just be able to turn them off, which will make things easier

[jagged prism]

did they have anything like frenzied in last season?

oh nm

[zinc sky]

Tried that, it only says "modifiers disabled at current conditions" when trying to open the menu

[tender wave]

They had 3 different enemy modifiers, special ammo, damage reflect, and reduced damage, all at specific ranges

Overall it was way more complicated than this season's one

[jagged prism]

thanks, all i remember was the reflect XD

yeah, even obtaining those modifiers was enraging

[tender wave]

They nerfed the reflect so it wasn't too bad after a while, thankfully

[jagged prism]

they did? guess i must've jumped on the modifiers after they did then. dont' remmber it being too bad, but i usually played at a mid to long range anyways

think the actives last season was in the journey with a few passives maybe? everything else was locked in the priority objectives and don't recall having any kind of reset to those of if we did it was more of a once a day kind of thing?

[molten spire]

you earned resets by completing priority objectives

[dry gate]

I've noticed they are trying to do something like diablo 4 with seasons in Div 2 and these specific mechanics.. with these modifiers and enemy behavior as additional buffs/downsides.. but even though I really enjoyed this season and momentum felt great, I'm a bit afraid they might not have enough resources and manpower to actually pull out the Diablo 4 approach. I would love to see it for sure, but from what I gathered so far and how they maintain the game I'm a bit concerned. Blizzard is massive dev team on Diablo, and maintaining quality seasonal content and mechanics is always a challenge.

Here's to hoping next season will feel as good as this one.

are these seasonal modifiers things something they've been doing for a while?

[tender wave]

Only started last season

[jagged prism]

2 seasons

[dry gate]

hm.. okay.. so they've been learning I guess from experience.. hopefully they are getting the "fun" factor, considering I read from you guys that some of the seasonal mechanics before were not really great.

[lime path]

No speedrunners on the server maintenance team today 👀

[tender wave]

Last season's was just complicated, this season's was better imo, simple and fun. Next season's is more complex again judging by the pts.

[south topaz]

first modifiers were bad for 1 month then they kinda fixed it

this time modifiers r OP and fun like anything

[jagged prism]

but co-oping the journey is supposedly possible so getting them finished won't be such a chore

[tender wave]

Yeah the journey should be way faster and easier next season

[dry gate]

I think the main appeal from this season was speed, with bursts of damage.. so it felt like you were berserking everywhere.. crit chance thing for next season seems like it will have damage but will slow down the game significantly.

[south topaz]

this season took 3hr to complete journey in shooting range hopefully gonna take 2hr next season even without shooting range

[jagged prism]

all i remember i was trying to complete the first journey and when i went to claim i was like oh i can claim 1, 2 and 3?!

[abstract steppe]

Df did i miss? LOL

[jagged prism]

depends how many people capitalize on that

[tender wave]

But all the different buffs bouncing up and down will be difficult to track and get good use out of, I suspect. Think the active modifiers will be more necessary to make regular use out of.

[south topaz]

it was fixed in 1 week at a speed never seen before so yeah

[lime path]

I like the modifiers we have now. Will miss them. Have not missed the previous ones from last season bore this one.

[dry gate]

it will be hard to go into next season with this momentum/overdrive.. to be perfectly honest

[jagged prism]

i'm curious how people will utilize the firearms next season 👀

[tender wave]

We'll all have to adjust to a slower way of life

[dry gate]

thankfully my main build now is Chatterbox so I won't notice THAT much of a difference as chatterbox is insane with rpm but still

[south topaz]

i liked the fact u can rush with all red striker and invulnerable shield like anything even in legendaries, that makes them fun as well as nobody dies that much anymore, speed running missions were the meta this season

[dry gate]

yes.. invulnerable shield was massive for me and how i like to play.. that will be missed a lot! that's why I say it will slow down the play a lot

[south topaz]

yeah sadly its gone, new season modifiers seems more complex also, except that 100% crit chance i'm yet to understand what other benefit it offers

[jagged prism]

any div 1 veterans would like to see more exotics of classified gears from div 1 in div 2?
was thinking a tactician exotic would be hilarious

[dry gate]

do they usually bring new exotics into a new season?

[jagged prism]

so far it's been the formula
new exotics
new gearset
new brandset

[dry gate]

ah that's nice

[jagged prism]

new named weapons and perfect talents

[abstract rapids]

Still not up ? I see there should still have 40 min left

[dry gate]

hopefully it's not Foundry Bulwark 2.0

[south topaz]

this time one exotic is tied to dlc as well

[tender wave]

Two in the season track I think

[jagged prism]

other server said extended

[lime path]

I have not given a hard look at what we will get this season yet so I’m going into the next one cold turkey from the loss of mules looking for my next fix

[south topaz]

two in track, one exotic gear and one exotic weapon

[jagged prism]

the master mission and exotic tied in it is something they started in last season

[south topaz]

come on 🥹

[dry gate]

how have they been with nerfs to meta and sets in general over the past 2 seasons? do they mess a lot with it?

Blizzard is notorious for completely nerfing the crap out of stuff every season

[jagged prism]

anyone look at tweets?

"post a picture of your day 1 brooklyn loadout and have a chance to win DLC code" interesting

[tender wave]

Restarted - bluescreen and dr home were originally tied to the climax missions in their seasons

[jagged prism]

oh right

[dry gate]

from what I understood the double talent if same gun thing is something that was present in Div 1?

[south topaz]

they tried to nerf the striker the META it didn't go well as reverted the nerf a lot haha

[jagged prism]

yes called Alphabridge Classified Gear

[tender wave]

They've done a few minor nerfs but also lots of buffs, to avoid too much complaining

[dry gate]

I heard they nerfed Scorpio.. the number of shots that procs the talent and handling?

[elfin hazel]

come into here if theres ever a HINT of a strikers/elmo nerf and its a nightmare depending on how big that nerf is

[south topaz]

yeah heavily from my one the the most used weapon to sitting in inventory now

[jagged prism]

yeah, used to be just 1 full clip to benefit it's talent. but just 2 extra shots now

[dry gate]

I guess that's not "horrible"..I asked exactly for the reason above mentioned by others.. will striker get nerfed.. but apparently people would lose their minds

[opaque lion]

Is there gonna be a download for this patch or is it set for next week?

[elfin hazel]

next week

this is just server end stuff

[jagged prism]

DLC is next week
tweet said infrastructure modifications

maybe trying to alleviate the influx of players they forsee coming to div 2

[dry gate]

yeah.. it was obvious past few days they've been struggling.. they were not prepared for the influx of players coming back

[elfin hazel]

pretty much

[valid hornet]

It’s still the solid choice it’s just not as effective as it once was

[dry gate]

yeah I saw someone make the variation of it with minor adjustments to proc that talent with 9 bullets as well.. so I'm guessing it's still usable

[jagged prism]

heal build it's hard to replace it honestly
Perfect Opportunistic + Scorpio extra 2 shots to do some seriosu damage for everyone but the healer

[elfin hazel]

but if guns and gear arent letting you have a best in everything ever only use this then the devs clearly hate us

wasn't the nerf to strikers on that one PTS basically just bringing it down to heartbreaker levels of damage 😭

clearly this is the end of the world

[dry gate]

I'll be honest, seeing how people reacted to the queue in the game I can't even imagine what a serious nerf to something like striker would be 🙂

[elfin hazel]

god willing it happens soon 🙏

[south topaz]

waiting for 10k queue next week

[tender wave]

Think it made it straight up worse than heartbreaker iirc

[jagged prism]

while other post pictures Hey Jarvis we're inside the waters fine!

[tender wave]

Apart from the pulse requirement

[elfin hazel]

honestly I think they should be close in damage

they should be sidegrades

[jagged prism]

just a little, but not much

[elfin hazel]

we just went from heartbreaker being THE best DPS build to tipping the scales so much that its the same thing with strikers now

[jagged prism]

you'd just hope the people we tell "try heartbreaker with technician pointer" i don't have that unlocked though! facepalm

[south topaz]

heartbreaker gives back armor as well as damage, making striker same damage as heartbreaker makes no sense, that will be end of striker

[elfin hazel]

if HB was left untouched as long as strikers has been I think we'd be seeing go countdown farm HB lol instead of go countdown farm strikers lol

[dry gate]

after now playing for a while on all kind of builds aside from skills.. I have to say I would personally like a bit nicer synergies for DPS on other sets.. discrepancy in proc-ing things from one set to another is so wildly different in complexity that sometimes it's a bit too much.. so many things on juggling on kills or status effects and similar.. I don't know.. just a personal feeling.. one of the reasons striker is so sought after I think.. it's just no brainer thing.. no requirements..

[jagged prism]

doesn't give back armor unless you nerf yourself and put armor regen instead of chc/chd?

[elfin hazel]

strikers needs more dmg than heartbreaker due to HBs armour but I think it still should be toned down a bit

[heavy dirge]

heartbreaker is just a less capable hunter's fury.

[elfin hazel]

truth nuke

[jagged prism]

i personally see it as a div 1 striker set but needing the pulse

[dry gate]

I mean I use heartbreaker for what set highlights as upsides.. applying massive amount of status especially with bluescreen

[elfin hazel]

I know it will never happen and is a symptom of my extreme bias but I personally would like to see strikers taken out of the meta I would enjoy seeing it just nerfed into the ground

but alas what I would want to happen to strikers would be worse for the games health than just keeping it as is

[heavy dirge]

ah yes, don't lift othe sets up, just nerf some into the ground.

[elfin hazel]

we don't need powercreep

its easy to say oh just buff everything up to X level but it's not so easy in practice

[dry gate]

that's always the problem though.. powercreep is actually a much more serious issue as it could actually lose the playerbase due to boredom.. when everything is buffed people will be happy for about 2 weeks and then get bored

[mild mauve]

Is the maintenance already over.

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random spoke]

sadly no

[elfin hazel]

23ish more minutes if it isnt

[mild mauve]

Ah thanks !

[loud sierra]

23? Man...

[random spoke]

honestly im quite hyped for the DLC and the next season

[elfin hazel]

sure lots of things need buffing but that doesn't mean we should just buff everything to strikers level the game would be in a WAY worse state

[dry gate]

i'm actually still awake.. it's 3am becuase I cooked up my Michael Bay build.. so hopefully maintenance is on time

[elfin hazel]

pretty sure on one of the last streams yannick outright said that powercreep is close to becoming a problem or something like that

[mild mauve]

Striker isnt nearly as good as it was tbh specially in div 1 compared to div 2

[loud sierra]

What's coming with the dlc?

[random spoke]

Brooklyn from TD1 but with more time passed

[loud sierra]

What is this GER in your name?
I saw someone in the division 1 survival with it die

[jagged prism]

div 1 nostolgia

[random spoke]

indicator for Germany

[loud sierra]

Ah

[elfin hazel]

good thing I'm not considering div1 for div2 balancing

[dry gate]

i don't know.. I clear missions on heroic with chatterbox striker chest piece and bag in speed that a lot of people have hard time keeping up.. I can't even imagine how anything stronger would be not broken.

[loud sierra]

Striker is missing its healing
And EMP weakness

Should be able to jam their stacks

[jagged prism]

i stand by Heartbreaker is Striker div 1 just need the pulse

[random spoke]

also the Meret Incursion cleaners are standard enemies with a corrosion buff on your armor

[mild mauve]

Yep, striker was good because it healed u, hence u could do solo sefver fights in div 1 🙂

[elfin hazel]

is it missing it or is it just them doing something different to fit a sequel instead of copying the first game

[mild mauve]

Server*

[dire ravine]

I would love to see strikers nerfed. Make more builds viable. And for them to actually fix determined

[loud sierra]

I mean, they kinda copied many things and just reskinned it

[elfin hazel]

FACTS

[loud sierra]

Like the Eagle bearer replaces the warlord

[dry gate]

i'm actually far more excited about new season than DLC.. my expectations of DLC are very low.. but season is what i'm more pumped about to try something a bit different

[mild mauve]

Strikers in div 2 does not need a nerf

[wind lynx]

Just buff other builds and keep striker where it is right now. It is not like you cannot play without striker. I found Dilemma way stronger.

[jagged prism]

i don't think determined is the issue, it's teh Headhunter is the issue

[loud sierra]

1.1 million dmg per shot with chameleon 45 body shot

[south topaz]

same

[elfin hazel]

the need for strikers being nerfed is more than just oh buff things its an actual problem with game health

[jagged prism]

it will be

[south topaz]

sadly it's tied

[jagged prism]

no brooklyn = no smart cover for you

[dire ravine]

Yes it really does. They tried to nerf it before and the community went crazy. Same with fixing determined. Look at the build channel everything is just run strikers

[elfin hazel]

I am so tired and saddened by seeing people come through here saying I just hit l40 what do I do!! and its just always met with go get 4p strikers and you'll probably never need to farm again !

[dry gate]

I personally think it's fine.. just leave the striker for newer players to get a hang.. like I did.. once you get bored of striker people try new things.. and to be honest, I love heartbreaker and ongoing directive in many ways far more than striker

[wind lynx]

I dont find striker that strong to be honest. You need stacks first. Tons of them. You are also limited by only fast rpm weapons. There are better options to go for outright dps to be honest.

[dry gate]

but if you get clapped and can't kill anything fro the start it discourages people

[random spoke]

honestly i think with lvl 40 the game takes up pace

[dry gate]

I was running yesterday and had a few newcomers to the game ask how and why.. and yes, striker was the answer.. but they were struggling sooo much

[random spoke]

everything , story and WONY is kinda a big tutorial for stuff

[elfin hazel]

as much as I'd love to believe that most people will go and farm other things to try something other than strikers after I just don't think it's the case whatsoever

[wind lynx]

Usually when i play with groups, my elmo dilemma combo outplays in terms of kill people running typical striker. Dilemma can kill like 5 dudes at once when striker is limited only for one enemy at a time.

[jagged prism]

that's why i believe people say 4 piece striker until they ask questions about builds and damages
the ones who dont out of sheer terror of asking a "stupid question" are just getting bored themselves

[elfin hazel]

I mean come on look at the replies to the #division-tweets giveaway and take a shot everytime you see a strikers build you'll die in a minute!

[mild mauve]

Btw, im saying this: but i am not a striker player 🙂 in div 2.
I have my high end builds and tank build.
Refract healer build is fun too.
And offcourse determind headhunter sniper build 🙂

[random spoke]

i run what keeps me from dying and is fun 😄

[dry gate]

the question is @elfin hazel would you rather have more people playing even with striker or quitting because they are falling behind.. because human nature is if they keep failing and sturggling they will stop playing.. that's my 2 cents really on it.

[random spoke]

i also run only sonar and the little weakpoint drone in my new run

[south topaz]

by throwing up spec modifier journey expertise proficiency all at their face at once 🤣

[elfin hazel]

I don't think making strikers something that isn't just a do all to the average player would make them quit personally

I don't think it's anywhere near that black and white

[mild mauve]

Playing striker as a new player is a good base to start with so they can learn the game and its mechanics for some raids/activities. But once they know the game they will experiment with other builds
Thats the nature of gamea like this.

[molten spire]

I don't use Striker outside the incursion and manage just fine

if this filters them okay I guess?

[random spoke]

Im not running any specific super builds , i just love roaming around killing stuff and helping other players

[dire ravine]

Since the beginning of the game the meta builds have always changed with buffs, nerfs and new gear. Striker been meta long enough

[elfin hazel]

if anything I think the realization that regardless of what gear they have all the gameplay left for someone after hitting L40 is just the same missions that have been in the game for years now is more of a factor to someone quitting

[jagged prism]

so you probably remember the old bezerk clutch combo and Sharpshooters?

[elfin hazel]

bezerk clutch 😭

[random spoke]

honestly some random stuff to spice up the world would be cool

[dire ravine]

Yes my favorite actually

[dry gate]

from experience I've seen reactions from people.. this is why a ton of these games in past 10 years or cater to casual players with mechanics, items, builds etc.. it has to be approachable otherwise they lose players.. I've seen it many many times with numbers.

[molten spire]

I thought it was Demolitionist for the ammo restock on armor break?

[dire ravine]

Loved some berserk clutch

[warm minnow]

I loved seeker meta (Thats was the only build I tried making when I joined right before wony release)

[molten spire]

or was that just the widdz version

[dire ravine]

3 11 7 days

[jagged prism]

trust me i was watching NGN and saw the bezerk combo was like OH A HACKER! but i know that's probably gameplay from way back when and he threw it in his video for the story/lore aspect at the time

[celest harbor]

hardwire seekers... good memories

[elfin hazel]

the losing players part has already happened for this game thats the thing we're far too long into the life cycle for it to matter that much to me imo

[elfin hazel]

I remember sharpshooter being used a lot but I don't remember why

[mild mauve]

Yepp, onboarding is very important in a live game. Thats why u see so many games change their onboarding stuff.
Like how someone new plays through the story and gets caught up.

[jagged prism]

mabye the sharpshooter was the Eaglebearer version

[molten spire]

yes if anything it is extremely unusual for a game of Division 2's age to get both a live service restart and the newcomer influx the game has experienced

[celest harbor]

or explosive build having merciless as second weapon while blasting p416 and triggering binary talent lol

[elfin hazel]

any launch fill er' up fans in the chat 👴

[jagged prism]

i honestly miss the merciless deleting warhounds bit

[dry gate]

the bigger issue I have is not striker honestly.. it's the useless pointless sets that are so underwhelming to use.. yes, virtuoso, foundry bulwark, etc.. like the payoff is very dissapointing..

[mild mauve]

Who played through the one shot sticky era ?

[molten spire]

also "Striker meta" has more to do with how sets and brands like Virtuouso instead have gimmicks that render them dead on arrival if not very uncompetitive

[mild mauve]

Cuz i have, it was no fun 🙂

[jagged prism]

div 1?

[celest harbor]

pfff sticky meta ain't got nothing on damage to elites talents meta

[mild mauve]

Yeah

[celest harbor]

the grind was real

[elfin hazel]

cant lie full auto rav gives the same feelings to me

[jagged prism]

i was thinking a tactician exotic would be fun in div 2 (> <)

[elfin hazel]

I 💙 my rav for deleting warhounds

[dry gate]

so can someone tell me was ravenous at any point an actual good gun? cause that thing kicks like a mule and I'm having hard time seeing where it fits

[jagged prism]

this was before rav
the explosion would just do straight health damage to warhounds

[elfin hazel]

IK I remember it being bugged and I remember people being upset at it being fixed despite clearly being bugged

[celest harbor]

you can still do that because that's hounds weakness lol

[elfin hazel]

modern day rav does evoke similar feelings for it though

[warm minnow]

It was shooting 1 bullet at a time

Rav is great dealing with dogs and chungas in leg

[jagged prism]

especially the butt on chungas?

[elfin hazel]

so awesome that this game has always had players see something clearly bugged and not working as intended only to act like the devs hate them personally when it inevitably gets fixed

[celest harbor]

i just want original The House and Showstopper combo in div2

[dry gate]

this is not exclusive to Div 2 to be fair..

[lime path]

Anyone looking for a carry in division one meanwhile? 😂

[elfin hazel]

#td1-lfg

[dry gate]

I might start Div 1 before DLC drops

just to go through the story

[umbral needle]

You on right now? I’m on waiting for D2 servers

[elfin hazel]

berserk please reread rule 12 ty

[mild mauve]

U never played it ?

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

don't think so

[mild mauve]

Wdym? What did i do wrong ?

[celest harbor]

You're missing out on so much fun, go do it

[dry gate]

no.. I picked up Div 2 right away a few weeks ago.. people said more people in community but I hear Div 1 still has a nice spot in people's hearts

[jagged prism]

we could get a stealth fix where they don't list it in the tweet XD

[mild mauve]

Mentioning a hacker ?

[elfin hazel]

correct thats what rule 12 is for

[umbral needle]

Just restarted D1 on PC feels amazing
Playing D1 & D2 on PS5 as well

[mild mauve]

Oops.my bad didnt even know there was a rule for it

[abstract rapids]

The division 2 would be here without the Division

[jagged prism]

were they a hacker?

[lime path]

I just signed in. Only played it for a few hours before. Level 7.

[elfin hazel]

all good !

[iron gust]

There's no client patch so probably still the same
Even reanimated killing friendly npcs is still waiting to be fixed 💀

[elfin hazel]

I can't lie going from div2 to div1 is dreadful imo

[hallow garden]

facts division 1 feels like shit

[jagged prism]

i can only imagine honestly

[abstract rapids]

And trust me New York cold and chill are awesome

[mild mauve]

I have soent 10k ours on Div 1

[elfin hazel]

insane amounts of gameplay polish for div2

[hallow garden]

the idea of playing division 1 is much better than actually playing it

[queen sleet]

Did 1 is the goat

[mild mauve]

Spent

Most was in the darkzone the true darkzone

[jagged prism]

you could also wait for resurgence Boz

[queen sleet]

Div 1 scenery and dark zone is truly the best

[dry gate]

what is resurgence now?

[celest harbor]

The one thing Div1 has that Div2 will probably never have is Survival mode

[elfin hazel]

mobile game thats still in dev

[jagged prism]

supposedly resurgence is Div 1 on mobile with some stuff in it like the mortar

[rain lynx]

resurgence long time is canceled

[dry gate]

I would imagine this is like someone telling me.. go play Destiny 1 again.. it's amazing.. yes it WAS amazing then 🙂

[elfin hazel]

god willing we never see it here or div3 🙏

[mild mauve]

Having server fights as a duo against the server was so much fun until "certain people" ruined it.

[dire ravine]

Resurgence isn't canceled

[elfin hazel]

resurgence is still in the works heartlands is the one that got cancelled

[hallow garden]

the devs have said they wont bring survival to div2 for some reason, probably not technically possible because theres absolutely a demand for it

[dry gate]

yeah i don't play mobile games 🙂

[celest harbor]

would love to see it again tho

[heavy dirge]

i felt that div 1 had better atmosphere and dungeon design, but in terms of gameplay, div 2 is lightyears ahead.

[jagged prism]

yeah it's sad. seemed a bunch were looking forward to it too

[hallow garden]

the snow alone made the world

[mild mauve]

Survival in a div 1 era should be a standalone game tbh

[queen sleet]

Nah Div 1 gameplay was too good

[elfin hazel]

we don't need everything from div1 to be in div2 I like having new things to do

[mild mauve]

Should not live inside div 2 or div 3

Needs to be a standalone game

[elfin hazel]

had to update the name because I don't care for the snow!

[dire ravine]

I always laugh when people complain about recoil in div 2 tell them to play div 1 and let me know how it goes

[elfin hazel]

the snow is not that cool ‼️

[low lily]

Who hates snow....

[heavy dirge]

snow was nice. tbh, i felt like div 2 should have leaned into it being a hot and sweltering summer more. people passed out via heatstroke, npcs and players sweating like dogs...

[hallow garden]

got a death wish with an opinion like that

[jagged prism]

yeah, it's horrible trying to control that XD

[celest harbor]

division games has recoil?

[mild mauve]

All i hated was that they moved Lvoa in the rifle catagory in div2

[iron gust]

The divi 1 slander 😭

[dry gate]

i think I read a response somewhere that the numbers didn't really pan out.. despite people thinking it was fun. so didn't warrant investment into it to bring it to DIv 2. mind you I don't know what it was so there's that.

[elfin hazel]

the move would be to change to #1 div1 hater 🚎

[dry gate]

isn't the Div 2 team different from original team?

[elfin hazel]

depends on when you're talking about the game

[jagged prism]

it was basically a FFA start with nothing but a pistol

[elfin hazel]

now pretty much absolutely but at the launch not really?

[mild mauve]

Div 1: The time when Mr. Baguette was still just a social media team player.

Now he calls the shots

[queen sleet]

Pls tell you guys that dislike div 1 who were that people that couldn’t strafe and got railed but the 4 man owing the server with gold builds

[low lily]

Owing tho

[jagged prism]

@dry gate it was also a PVEVP game mode

[mild mauve]

Skill issue, chicken dance fight or die

[iron gust]

There's div 2 OG team and current team
Div 2 OG team was div 1 team for the most part

[elfin hazel]

is red storm even up to anything anymore

[queen sleet]

Anywho Div 1 on top!!!

[mild mauve]

Nah even the big cup guy left

[elfin hazel]

they don't work on this game anymore AFAIK and their last two games got canned

[mild mauve]

Forgot his name

[heavy dirge]

from humble beginnings of creating a crappy java game...

[dry gate]

ewww

[low lily]

Red storm is bae ❤️

[iron gust]

Didn't some of them go work on xdefiant and R6?

[elfin hazel]

not a clue but it wouldn't surprise me

[mild mauve]

But ur a true div 1 player if u have a lvl 29 char

Then i know u know the game.

[iron gust]

L30 Brooklyn

[mild mauve]

Or if u know Matt

[low lily]

Lvl29 pvp died out fast tho

[eager canopy]

when will the server be back up?

[mild mauve]

First to solo all content with a sniper

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

eventually

[mild mauve]

Including heroic

[queen sleet]

Fr good times

[dry gate]

what happened to the OG team?

[heavy dirge]

they announce the inevitable extension of the downtime yet?

[mild mauve]

The esoterric of the division franchise

[iron gust]

Star wars/Avatar

[low lily]

Made avatar and outlaws and now div3

[elfin hazel]

no word of an extension yet so give it a lil bit

[rancid sphinx]

always up and running , they so good at this

[elfin hazel]

it's only an estimate ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[iron gust]

There's also a unannounced project Massive is working on

[silk rock]

Wait until this time next week. LoL

[mild mauve]

I learned a long time a go, to stop caring about how massive/ubi handles this game

[dry gate]

neither of those games did well.. but it's encouraging they are on Div 3 I guess.. that's what they do best I guess.

[iron gust]

So div 3+ unannounced project

[mild mauve]

They could do so much but they dont 🙂

[south topaz]

server up or not?

[elfin hazel]

not

[dry gate]

people are still getting MIKE-01

[elfin hazel]

I really enjoyed outlaws makes me very interested for what div3 will look like

[eager canopy]

MIKE-01

[low lily]

Well if div3 is same level quality as outlaws then ye they are pulling full watch dogs here

[elfin hazel]

?

[heavy dirge]

factoid: MIKE-01's last name is 'Hunt'.

[rancid sphinx]

not up and communication is still as good as ever.

[dry sandal]

Finally Watch Dogs 2015

[dry gate]

engine is indeed stunning... I am excited what they will do with it for Div 3

[alpine zephyr]

they wont

[queen sleet]

Whatever happened to division heartlands

[elfin hazel]

cancelled

[queen sleet]

Damn that’s tragic

[low lily]

Meant how 3 was so bad it killed the whole ip

[south topaz]

i remember for a month or so they used to say 3hr downtime but completes it in 2hr, now its opposite

[dry gate]

man. I'm old enough to remember where Division and all these Ubi games from the series came from.. Ghost Recon Warfighter baby..

[mild mauve]

Honest confession!

Unbox Therapy introduced me to Div 1.
I saw it on a YouTube video and I was like, "WTF? I've never seen anything like it!" The graphics were ahead of their time.

[low lily]

One day we get game like division 1 first E3 gameplay

[mild mauve]

Only the real ones know.

He was showcasing div 1 on a huuge as screen

[queen sleet]

Yes sirr

[south topaz]

becz they were ahead of time and couldn't deliver that with then technology div 1 never got the hype

[mild mauve]

I cant wait to see div 3 stuff

[dry gate]

I'm working on something for a triple A game now that is yet to be announced and I'm super excited to see people's reaction when it's revealed.. this is the most exciting part of it all 🙂

[mild mauve]

Gonna be fun, but im so hoping we can get smaller backpacks

[low lily]

Consoles also was a big reason for that

[alpine zephyr]

is sweet baby inc working with them on it, thats all i wanna know. i hope not

[elfin hazel]

who cares

[mild mauve]

I have no clue what they gonna do with div 3

[elfin hazel]

god willing its the wokest game ever 🙏

[mild mauve]

Future stuff would be interesting ngl

Like set in a futuristic world.

[dry gate]

god please no

[mild mauve]

But hey im just spitballing

[iron gust]

I just wanna see if there's any surprise for the new season
Stream's tomorrow tho

[young venture]

surprise raid would be LIT

[low lily]

Nahh raids are kinda waste of resources, majority people don't touch them

[jagged prism]

yes surprise raid in whitehous (> <)

[low lily]

We really need higher difficulty tho

[hallow hedge]

aww still cant login

[mild mauve]

But anyway i love both games, no hate towards no one at ubi massive they did what they did and its fine, they dont owe me shit.
Just because i paid to play there game.

[iron gust]

Kenly countdown map lessgo

[mild mauve]

They can do whatever they want.

[weary owl]

Be nice to equip an additional exotic like 3 total

What u guys think of that?

[jagged prism]

they let us use 5 i think in div 1?

[dry gate]

to be fair.. I played Dark Hours a day or two ago.. I ran it twice.. it was a bit underwhelming honestly.. it was short.. and Iron Horse from what I see is a bit too convoluted.. they need to make it an experience with a bit of a mix of both and make it a bit more of an experience IMO.

[weary owl]

I don't remember

[heavy dirge]

a new raid would be nice. but it always causes the hypercasuals to bellyache incessantly because they can't make the effort to find some of the groups that will regularly run raids and happily drop EBs and Ravs at their feet.

[queen sleet]

Agreed both games a good in their own ways but Div 1 forever the goat 💯

[eternal dirge]

is server up now ?

[dry gate]

it has to be rewarding and engaging. And not too hard. Games do raids and casuals play them.. so it's a matter of good design really. People will get into groups if it's rewarding and good to play.

[weary owl]

2 gear 2 weapon

[mild mauve]

Also if yall have the chance! And i hope im not getting scolded for this. But give Matt a watch if ur bored.

Matt's div 1 content is so dope to have some nostalgia

[heavy dirge]

i'll give you that IH is kinda challenging in that regard. but DH? all it is is point and pew pew pew...

[jagged prism]

@dry gate and @heavy dirge gotta remember Darkhours was a level 30 content
so being 40 makes it a bit easier

[heavy dirge]

i've been in random DH groups that did the place in 20 mins. legendary manning is more onerous than either raid.

[dry gate]

right.. Destiny 2 raids were an experience.. they should learn from them for sure.. and I agree.. DH was underwhelming, and IH from what I see (seems more tedious with mechanics) .. I will reserve my final judgement when I play it.. but a mix of both would be a sweet spot I feel.

[mild mauve]

Oh and there should be 2 raids for div 3 btw. One raid should launch a few weeks after div 3 launches and one later in that year, but thats my two cents.
With both raids having worlds first offcourse.

[elfin hazel]

few weeks after sounds extremely rough for the devs

[mild mauve]

I mean look at D2 tey do it that way 🙂
U litterly got 4 days to prepare for world first raid coming on july 19th

One day before my birthday

[dry gate]

I went into DH and was like ok.. clear the airfield, press the terminal buttons, kill boomer, fight lucy and buddy by damaging them at the same time, the split plane was kind of eh, press 3 buttons, and the final encounter with terminals was ok but nothing spectacular from design standpoint.. not mean to be too critical.. just coming from other raids it felt underwhelming and pretty short.

[mild mauve]

Dh on day 1 was no joke though

[iron gust]

Unless they have a long term plan to keep raids relevant, I'm not sure they'll make raids
Like the incursion it's a short burst activity

[dry gate]

and I think that's why they overcomplicated possibly IH.. but I will play it to have more real experience.

[mild mauve]

Buddy and lucy where a pain in the butt

[heavy dirge]

the dumbest thing ubi did in terms of the raid was take a way the voice channels for this channel. you could pretty much stroll in and get into a raid within 20 mins max. now you kinda actually have to ask around for clans/channels to get one.

that said, just having regular in-game matchmaking would have fixed much.

[dire ravine]

Ye being lvl 30 n the gear we had then DH was no joke

[elfin hazel]

god this is just the reoccuring thing atm isn't it

[jagged prism]

right?! how many times does someone have to tell people they need to be in a certain range from each other health wise? and people just push it past and it resets

[dry gate]

I can imagine.. I'm just probably more critical of the design of encounters themselves and experience in the raid.. Capitol Building to me felt more engaging than the raid 🙂

[heavy dirge]

lvl 30 DH was the era of sniper build supremacy. 🙂

[elfin hazel]

how many matchmaking raid convos has there been the last like week or two

at least 3 I think

[heavy dirge]

remember having a pair of aces and eights snipers in almost every fight? good times.

[elfin verge]

I used to think raid matchmaking was a good idea. Then I did raids and saw how people put items on and call it a build.

[mild mauve]

TBH, they can easily enable normal matchmaking for both raids.

[zenith pond]

I miss being able to 1 shot buddy or lucy 😦

[jagged prism]

yes, i'll be like chun------nm

[lavish pollen]

Good lord bring the servers back up im bored 🤣

[young venture]

This i see people complaining at lvl 200 I had ran it 5 times, never got dropped the ravenous but still amazing fun, just need to watch a yt video on mechanics and join a dc

[young venture]

The funny thing is last stand and pvp in div 1 is still hyper active

[somber pewter]

We still do

[mild mauve]

D2 has it too. And its working. There is ingame voice in div 2 so u van easily make it work.

[lavish pollen]

Well the sweaty tryhards are a problem too tbh

[lavish pollen]

I still play lol

[opaque hedge]

Serves will be back in few hours

[lavish pollen]

They had their 3.5 hours

[zenith pond]

I've recently come back after a ~4 year break... So yeah.. no group to raid with lol

[young venture]

Rage bait by asking for group in lfg

[mild mauve]

I dont play with elitist "raid" players discords

[elfin hazel]

still no announcement about servers 😭

[lavish pollen]

Same

[lavish pollen]

Ikr

[somber pewter]

Join me on PlayStation and I'll gladly show you ☺️

[mild mauve]

Specially not a streamer community discord hahah

[young venture]

wd\ym elitist raid players discord?

[lavish pollen]

Sweaty tryhards

[heavy dirge]

i took about 18 months off after the clan i was in kinda decided to kick back a bit (this was before the pentagon came out) and then of course the world went to hell and playing div games felt a bit...iffy. when i came back and tried IH for the first time, i was hopelessly confused. but by about the 5th run, i started catching on and by the 10th i was building builds for the various roles and trying them out one by one.

[delicate barn]

No pleaseeee

[opaque hedge]

Now they want another 3.5 😄

[lavish pollen]

He doesn’t know what he’s talking about he’s just guessing, but they already posted it was a 3 hour maintenance and that ended 1 hour ago

[delicate barn]

No Mike please let me play!

[lavish pollen]

Now that I don’t doubt

[queen sleet]

I play AU and I can’t seem to find one so I just go dark zone

Ok Xbox

[fallow sentinel]

Can I ask why? I did over 3000 back in the day, no gear requirement, and always got the player involved.

[dry gate]

Mike-01 is really a bully..

[young venture]

most of the times I run it theres 3-4 new players max and 4 experienced ones for each role healer stagger key etc then it goes smoothly and everyone learns'

how I learnt the proper raid mechanics

[lavish pollen]

I’d love to raid but no friendly Xbox groups willing to take a rusty ass player

[dire ravine]

yooo it's @fallow sentinel how you been and yes he's a real one that helped many with raids

[somber pewter]

Upgrade to PlayStation 😂

[queen sleet]

Just join a clan bro

[lavish pollen]

I refuse to downgrade sorry, I own all systems but Xbox is main for a reason

[fallow sentinel]

haha all good m8 just waiting for servers 🙂

[young venture]

xbox is pretty much dead pc has all the playerbase in div 1 for pvp

[queen sleet]

Xbox on top

[lavish pollen]

I’m in one bro

[queen sleet]

Okay bro fair

[lavish pollen]

Man I miss when bro actually meant something and wasn’t overused

[mild mauve]

It was nothing against u 🙂

[hallow hedge]

yall can get in or what?

[heavy dirge]

i know clans that literally run raids daily. they usually schedule 'fun' raids (for vets, just blow through the place) and learning raids.

[fallow sentinel]

Oh no I know that, I was just wondering if I was missing something when I used to go it 🙂

[lavish pollen]

Not yet

[young venture]

Everyone who I have ever ran with is really nice to new players

[mild mauve]

And great if thats in your case !

[hallow hedge]

oke was afraid was just me lol

[somber pewter]

I only prefer PlayStation due to their exclusive games.

But yea, I raid every day through PS, never have a problem find players

[mild mauve]

Im not going to name anyone because i do not want to get banned 🙂

[lavish pollen]

lol no

[queen sleet]

Division 1 toxicity was really something else hahah a lot of laughs for sure 😂

[mild mauve]

Suka blyatt

[young venture]

VOIP was the greatest addition to the game

[jagged prism]

it's just there are people out there who only take in so much i think?
like i remember heroic countdown if you weren't fully optimized and 1k shd you'd get booted

[queen sleet]

Yess fr

[lavish pollen]

See I have all systems for exclusives but been on Xbox so long I own over 400 games 🤣

[dry gate]

Mike won't let me make my Michael Bay fire in slow motion build

[young venture]

Manhunt against 15+ people hilariously fun

[heavy dirge]

i think i've only ever done one raid that was organized out a streamer's clan (it was either tickle's or skillz)

[fallow sentinel]

ah yeah I hate that kinda stuff, not everyone has the time to be instant max everything

[queen sleet]

4 man vs the server 🫡😂

[young venture]

everyone yelling someone playing russian music

[young venture]

Actually works if they're not in groups

[somber pewter]

Damm! I haven't been on Xbox since the 360, they be keeping you busy over there 😂

[young venture]

1 final measure reclaimer and 2 strikers

[jagged prism]

russian consulate mission? (> <)

[lavish pollen]

Years and years and a lot of time in the army 🤣

[mild mauve]

U thought the russians where funny,
Until u played against the French

All u here is bagguette 🤣

[heavy dirge]

i hate to even say this, but i loved that mission.

[jagged prism]

why do you hate saying it?

[young venture]

Last stand on PC at 6am AUS time for eu servers jump on if u want some DIV 1 pvp

[spiral wharf]

server down?

[mild mauve]

Lol lexington event center grind for barret was peak

[heavy dirge]

it was not very popular back in the div1 days

"welll, ain't this some...."

[young venture]

AA or lexington for GE credits

[jagged prism]

well, it was a chore running it

[lavish pollen]

Anyone know a good group for raiding on Xbox?

[heavy dirge]

yeah, and i get that, but from a level design, i thought it and the UN were just amazing

[dry gate]

what is people's favorite mission in Div 2? I am very happy with all of them.. if I would have to say one thing that bothers me is the Federal Bunker with the enemies up on the second floor.. kills my mojo every time when they get stuck or hide. Invaded is even worse than normal one.

[jagged prism]

it really was

[queen sleet]

Our group ran final measure do’s with a defib in case , tac healer for the pulse and defib and the other two we’re either gold builds or banshee with a vig chest piece for over heals!! Now that was unstoppable 🥳😎

[mild mauve]

Im an og final measure dz player

[young venture]

Reclaimer just better than tac healer

[heavy dirge]

thaty's when you gety happy with a skill build. which i never do. i've suicided on that room because some random dipstick ran down the upstairs stairwell and wouldn't come back

[mild mauve]

Love eating nades

🤣

[queen sleet]

It’s good for heals but ya don’t get the pulse damage

[young venture]

eh heals more important good dmg buff from striker stacks and FM and reclaimer is 2x the heals

[azure lintel]

game still on maintenance? when is it ending!
iwanna play a bit before i go to bed (it's 5 am)

[median crypt]

Mike-01, damn you 😭

[dire ravine]

Coney Island Amusement Park

[young venture]

plus relcaimer pulse isnt far off, 5% maybe

[dry gate]

interesting choice!

[elfin hazel]

bear what do you play the game on

[mild mauve]

Also 6k firearm 6k electronics

[young venture]

I looked into it one time

[azure lintel]

That's a tough one..but i'd say Tidal Basin...

[young venture]

for FM?

[queen sleet]

If ya run the vig Chest piece you get constant over heals from defib

[mild mauve]

U dealt damage and u can still heal ur duo if ur doing duo dz shenanigans against the server

[queen sleet]

And booster

[mild mauve]

Yes !

[dry gate]

Tidal Basin feels most intense and feels action packed.. i can see that

[dire ravine]

Ye was just cool and different when that mission dropped. And finding the secret boss

[sterile ferry]

Are servers still down?

[jagged prism]

normal or manhunt?

[heavy dirge]

i don't particularly love any of the div 2 missions, tbh. but i don't particularly hate or dislike any of them either (even the WONY ones.) air & space, lincoln and DUA would be my nominal faves.

[young venture]

yes

[dire ravine]

Normal I don't want Sparkle 😂😭

[dry gate]

I'm actually surprised how many people who have clearly played the game quite a bit never knew about Agony at the Zoo

[mild mauve]

For me the only downside in div 2 is

[heavy dirge]

Lars and Ulf, the two hamsters powering the div 2 servers are still on strike.

[mild mauve]

The delay in actually using your skills

Compared to div 1

Like trying to use a chem or sticky and u get shot and u cannot pull it out so fast is annoying af

[dry gate]

I have to say, using skills with aiming and target and switching to them feels very not fluid and fun in many cases.

[heavy dirge]

it'd be nice if they let us pre-order the DLC sometime this week. 😉

[loud sierra]

Is the maintenance over?

[elfin hazel]

still going

[south topaz]

r they fixing national bond farm or what, without any update 4hr server down

[loud sierra]

Man, not 30 minutes? Surprising

[mild mauve]

Yepp thats what i ment.

[dire ravine]

Hopefully we'll hear about pre-orders in stream tomorrow

[lavish pollen]

Everyone asking about maintenance go and try to login 🤦‍♂️

[hearty river]

its been 4hrs i think and server still down

[jagged prism]

waht if they did but think it might be a them problem?

[iron gust]

Those are client updates so no

[queen sleet]

Currently on my pc pressing A every 3 mins on the Xbox waiting for it to come online abahahah 🫡

[lavish pollen]

Then if they read chat they would see they’re not alone 😂

[agile sinew]

extended? this is not new.

[jagged prism]

extended or just late

[dry gate]

I've been farming and helping someone get to 40 with National Bond mission.. is that frowned upon? I mean I literally just invite them into the mission.. not doing any other shenanigans?

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lavish pollen]

Late

[elfin hazel]

right now its just late

[inner elbow]

late or fell asleep

[elfin hazel]

honk shno mimimi

[lavish pollen]

Nope 100% ok

[young venture]

ban him (jk)

[jagged prism]

good knowing you bozzified (> <)

[lavish pollen]

I got over 500 shd levels in bond bank on the boosted xp weekend it was amazing

[dry gate]

i mean it's too good. takes like 30-40 mins to level 40 on heroic with 4 directives

[grim marlin]

Ubi server hamsters are taking siesta. Be patient boys and girls.

[dry gate]

i leveled up my other 3 agents going through NY missions like a pleb

[south topaz]

takes 20 min i did 45 min dcd run yesterday for a mule 31-40

[dire ravine]

Does nobody read the part where it says estimated downtime is 3 hours 😂

[agile sinew]

no room for late..

[jagged prism]

no they only see 3 hour downtime (> <)

[lavish pollen]

That time came and went, it’s on the 4th hour

5th*

[dire ravine]

Estimated is the key word there

[grim marlin]

In 15min its 4hrs

[inner elbow]

yeah "estimate" means 3 +/- 6 hours

[heavy dirge]

friend of mine was grinding up a muile in the DZ last week, i told him 'c'mon, lets do lincoln a few times' i got him from 34 to 49 in 25 mins. if that's fround upon, then i'm super guilty.

[loud sierra]

Played us like a damn fiddle

[dry gate]

down for maintenance should be back up 47 minutes ago

this didn't age well 🙂

[loud sierra]

Aged like milk left outside in summer

[lavish pollen]

With a splash of vinegar

[elfin hazel]

its still aging !!

[dry gate]

i know about lincoln but man, national bond is literally 3 min run

[inner elbow]

guessing they broke one of the servers

[loud sierra]

The interns broke it I suppose

[south topaz]

and gives 1.2M xp huge for just 3 min

[loud sierra]

Have you seen the new siege marketing video on Instagram? Seems like they are hiring anyone rn

[heavy dirge]

yeah, but lincoln has four bosses. so i can potentially get something out of it as well. 🙂

[lavish pollen]

I need to farm it today and get more levels I’m like 616 I need my 1k

[worldly moss]

If i was at work instead of waiting to play the update would be finished by now...

[rancid sphinx]

would it kill ubi to communicate a little better and be consistent with it on tuesdays keeping us up to date.

[elfin hazel]

god would smite them or so I'm told

[dry gate]

I'm 726, I made my peaceI won't make it

[lavish pollen]

Yes it would

[south topaz]

the thing is national bond should only work for once a week but people found workaround, whenever that happens they patch it sooner or years later

[lavish pollen]

I got 500 easy in 2 days during xp boost in bond so not too hard

[dire ravine]

Lmaoo love the name change drib

[dry gate]

I do it with 2 characters.. i don't do the event reset thing.. I simply switch to character, start the mission, invite the friend to help out, switch back to runner so I don't lose the mission and blamo.. takes a minute longer per run but no risk

[grim marlin]

Its been in the game for very long time already. And after DLC it doesnt matter anymore really. Noone want to fight loading screen bosses for SHD leveling there.

[lavish pollen]

Does anyone plan on doing bond farming today?

[lavish pollen]

Why, what will the dlc change?

[rancid sphinx]

40 boost

[dry gate]

40 right away

[south topaz]

give us the server first

[jagged prism]

hopefully all side missions and what not turn them into world missions

[cerulean panther]

why the dev dont make the game crossplatform

[grim marlin]

Spend your Scavenging Points before Y7S1 starts — once the update goes live, points will be account-bound and cannot be used more than one time in total. New Scavenging points will be gifted to your account based on your level and will overwrite what you had before.

[inner elbow]

how splendid. you pay to skip all the exploits

[cerulean panther]

its common nowadys

[elfin hazel]

too far into the games life and too much work for it to be worth it

[lavish pollen]

I knew about that I mean with the leveling

[dire ravine]

Crossplay wasn't a thing when div 2 dropped

[rancid sphinx]

new york missions projects have been gone for some time now. with the 40 boost, new york is useless.

[heavy dirge]

god, i have to blow another 9000 points this week. so much currency i'll never use.

[tired canyon]

Yo are the server on now or no

[lavish pollen]

Still not

[elfin hazel]

no

[south topaz]

21k in 3 character

[cerulean panther]

@dire ravine its common nowadays gaming industry cant escape it

[lavish pollen]

Cry me a river dude

[rancid sphinx]

i have to about 80,000 in shd i will never spend in time

[dry gate]

so tell me.. do you buy account shared blueprint BEFORE you pick up the watch or after?

[lavish pollen]

Waaaah

[heavy dirge]

i had 24k last week. spending all those points on currency just kinda made me sad

[inner elbow]

after

[grim marlin]

last thing

[south topaz]

max out credit or what 🤣

[dire ravine]

I meant when div 2 came out there wasn't crossplay like games have now.

[dry gate]

k

[rancid sphinx]

70 million dollars and growing

[lavish pollen]

There was in some games

[jagged prism]

depends if they auto give the skills there to you

[cerulean panther]

@dire ravinecrossplay is the server not the game

[remote pecan]

shared mats matter, blueprints is whatever no?

[heavy dirge]

but yes, i'll have 350-400 million in $. whoop-dee-doo. i must be the only american ever who is dissatisfied with having that much money.

[boreal pilot]

wait.. the servers are still not up?

[grave jetty]

are servers up?

[elfin hazel]

servers still down

[grave jetty]

wtf

[elfin hazel]

it's both

[boreal pilot]

oh wow

[rancid sphinx]

they are given in boost

[azure aspen]

Still Mike fixing the servers 😄

[quiet heath]

hmm

[boreal pilot]

you got this mike!

[south topaz]

watch > blueprint> crafting+ spending points> shared meterials
that's my mule routine now

[dry gate]

Mike is indeed still fixing the servers

[grave jetty]

they doing maintence to prepare for next week's season and dlc update?

[jagged prism]

you sure of it?

[dire ravine]

Yes but doing it now with div 2 would definitely cause more issues. I'm sure div 3 will have it. And hopefully cross save

[elfin hazel]

seems like it

[lavish pollen]

No it’s strictly server, the game is merely a data stream the server houses the program to make cross platform work, I know I used to build servers

[grim marlin]

There is like 1% chance that Div3 will happen at all. Ubi will be bankrupt before that will happen...

[grave jetty]

hmm then its fine I can wait abit more

[cerulean panther]

@elfin hazel there will be another division in the future for console because the game on series x cant push 120fps and we are in 2025

[heavy dirge]

maybe i should dust off somehting in steam for a while...

[lavish pollen]

You’re unnaturally optimistic

[elfin hazel]

ubi seems to be doing alright to me

[rancid sphinx]

lets kick em

[elfin hazel]

for how often people say ubisoft is going bankrupt SOON they sure are still around

[cerulean panther]

@lavish pollen you must accept this fact, thing is evolving and little thing like that give console player 120fps its a must.

[lavish pollen]

No it’s not 🤣 you’re funny as hell

[ebon steeple]

didnt tencent just give em a ton of money

[dire ravine]

Yes

[elfin hazel]

yes

[inner elbow]

that same crowd is probably the ones that review-bomb a game due to EULA changes

[iron gust]

*Will give

[dry gate]

come on MIKE! stop messing with us

[cerulean panther]

@lavish pollen you will in the future just wait. they will force to give 120fps

[inner elbow]

Mike. Just did it.

[jagged prism]

i can't wait until someoen makes s Mike-01 bully gif (> <)

[lavish pollen]

I have news on server status: they’re still not up

[south topaz]

its 4hr server not coming back i guess

[median crypt]

Right MIKE-01, I’m rage 😡 quitting for 30 secs, then I’m gonna try again, I shall repeat this process until my Div2 demands are fulfilled 🤔

[inner elbow]

terrible nike slogan pun

[dry gate]

server instancing and expansion did not go well it appears.

[azure aspen]

Mike needs backup guys...

[fresh wagon]

is it a sinking ship? yes. just a really slow one in the end

[lavish pollen]

Lmao people like you thinking about the wrong priorities, companies don’t give a crap about a damn frame rate, they want the players and as long as it’s 60 or more it’s enough in their eyes

[wintry iron]

wait till next week be down all day

[mighty palm]

Mike goes 👉 Delta

[opaque hedge]

its hardware update guys it will take longer than 3hrs im guess 6-7 in TTL (if we are lucky)

[elfin hazel]

twitch drops 👀

[fallow sentinel]

I has them 😄

[lavish pollen]

No it’s not lmao don’t talk like you know

[queen sleet]

SERVER IS UP!!!!!!

Just kidding yall

[jagged prism]

probably, but if i know something should be able to handle a feature but it doesn't and it costed me just as much as a low end Gaming PC i wouldn't be too happy about it

[dry gate]

I will tell you what's going to hit big publishers.. it's not going to be 120fps. or even money per se. It will be AI that enables tiny teams and solo devs to create triple A quality games with much higher risk on creating something new and creativity. They will be able to do things that a team of 300 people can now. And it's actually a good thing.

[willow igloo]

Lit... love it

[cerulean panther]

@lavish pollen i told you just wait and you will see i said they will be force automatically to implement it. today AI is everywhere and people are force to use it whether they like it or not

[elfin hazel]

wrong server 😭

[lavish pollen]

Sorry

[wide python]

you made me run to my pc

[rancid sphinx]

thye broke it

[vestal valley]

never trust an xbox dude

[queen sleet]

HAHAHA MY BAD 😂🤪

[azure aspen]

Mike should ask Chuck Norris for help.

[jagged prism]

OMG other server posted pics of twitch drops. them skins looks awesome for a change

[lavish pollen]

This guy is so delusional 🤣 he has to be from the Middle East 😆

[dry gate]

wait.. I have a new development.. I'm getting BOB-04 message now.. is that good 😉

[rigid wigeon]

are the servers still down?

[elfin hazel]

what the hell is bob 04 😭

[rancid sphinx]

anybody seen my baseball

[dry gate]

did Bob take over?

[fresh wagon]

nahh i bet alex came back alive and took over

[iron tide]

i only came on to do some stash sorting and now i cant do that

[dire ravine]

Ye the drops look good

[jagged prism]

i want the 5 hour one 👀

[lavish pollen]

I can’t find the bot command channel can I get a link? Insomnia sucks

[azure aspen]

Mike knocked BoB out

[prime pelican]

we got a time frame on servers yet?

[elfin hazel]

nope

[willow igloo]

More like.. sprint... stump my toe, trip, fall, twist an ankle, land on my keyboard (/controller), break it, flip and jump out my window in frustration

[dry gate]

nothing Plum