td2-general-chat

[grand swan]

Fr

They do that virtual insanity slide

[unique bramble]

Give me Skyrim vibes when you apply stun on an outcast rusher and they are like: understandable, have a nice day

[grand swan]

Real

[cold plume]

whats a good way to farm exotics

from what ive seen countdown exotic caches seem the best but im curious if theres sth better

[grand swan]

Idk but i'd say keep farming countdown until you got enough credits and them dump them at exotic caches

[cold plume]

yeah that was my guess too but i saw that floor 90 in summit is okay-ish too

but fk me farming to floor 90 rn seems boring af

[kind veldt]

while it has decent drop rates on legendary, still just a grind

[dusty lagoon]

Tell you something after playing the first descendents for 2 weeks then coming back to td2 it feels strange but a good strange

[crude tartan]

did the control point thing get fixed yet?

[silent finch]

Agents

[tiny oar]

next patch

[glacial token]

Is div 2 crossplay

[frosty wadi]

No

[glacial token]

Damn

They should add that

[lunar hare]

they won't
never will.

[glacial token]

Why

[lunar hare]

something going with the game's architecture

[tiny oar]

they physically cant

they would need to redo the entire game from the ground up

[hazy ivy]

No, cause Console players would get obliterated by PC players so their not gonna have Div 2 be crossplay cause of balancing reasons

[azure lintel]

Please stop having Descent be Sloth. It's always sloth. It's something then Sloth then something then Sloth. For months. I'm on my knees with tears in my eyes begging, please stop making it Sloth.

Thank you in advance.

[lunar hare]

that's not the main reason but ok

[tiny oar]

whats sloth ?

[kind veldt]

game has so many talents that descent has sets of talents rotating

i think the sets are named after the 7 sins

so sloth is a set of talents

lots of people who play descent dont like ethat

i just played enouhg to buy my Vindicator or vindicative or whatever it's called so i never paid much attention to which talents are on the sets to know

[tiny oar]

oh its not all random, its a random set of talents

meh, i got the exotic too so i dont think i'll care much

[inner elbow]

Sloth is good now

But it doesn't necessarily suit the general players playstyle

[kind veldt]

going to assume it's the defensive focused one?

[hazy ivy]

Its one of the reasons

[little hill]

Do we know when 21.2 launches?

[lunar hare]

date was moved but not announced yet

[small spear]

that's why you should play with me to loop 40

[heavy prism]

Where's my loop 100 carry

I don't believe in sloth, you need to make me

[small spear]

if you believe in bamboo HH you will believe in sloth loop 100

[heavy prism]

I will not believe it unless you carry me

[heavy prism]

You never seem to slepge when descent, but when me and only me call you for zoo you slepge everytime

[small spear]

sir we live on the opposite sides of the globe 💀

[heavy prism]

Sir I ask you at 3am and 3pm respectively both you slepge sir

[small spear]

3pm on saturday pls

[tiny heart]

what should i do if everytime i try to play countdown and it says seesion owner missing and doesnt put me in a team

[heavy prism]

Sir last sat and sun you workge

Sir do not gaslight

[opal radish]

Use 5.11 with chameleon and ninjabike bagpack

Btw @small spear your ninjabike improvised build is weak against 5.11 cause it has 3 extra mods get rekt

[inner elbow]

Bug. It will be fixed in the next patch

[orchid turtle]

Ok, it's a long time since I back here.

Just wonder if it's normal since I didn't see any raid going on.

💀

[tiny heart]

so im stuck with messed up matchmaking until the next patch

cause its happening every time

[opal radish]

Nice sunglasses

[full zinc]

if you mean the voice channels they were removed from this discord by ubisoft. a lot of people use thedivision community discord that still has vc. around 79k members if you look it up

[orchid turtle]

U mean there's another discord which allow VC?

I did saw a server with VC. But i thought it was unofficial server so I was out.

[full zinc]

yeah, its not run by ubisoft

its been around for a really long time. i can pm you a link if needed/wanted

[orchid turtle]

I did see it. So why u lads still here?

[full zinc]

good community. tons of knowledgeable agents . people still use the lfg her afaik, then reference a vc on the other discord

[kind veldt]

well i want discuss the game and give feedback, rarely care about vc

a lot of it is also they nuked the forums i used

[elfin hazel]

official discord so most people funnel here + theres way more to the game than just raids

[kind veldt]

Besides i can go constantly off topic and get away with it jk

Besides the constant income of new players show game is quite healthy despite the age which gets a lot of people off guard

[opal radish]

There is a guy named corpsemaker he has like 9000+ Dark hours clear ask him lol

[inner elbow]

Thanks, found it in the snow

[inner elbow]

This server has... Uh.. more... Uh engaging mods

[quick wolf]

Aspect for president.

[opal radish]

Third contender for US Present in our Aspect

[spare cove]

Patch is tomorrow

[pale spindle]

I’ve been having a lot of trouble with Countdown. I’ll load in and be able to move around before others, skipping the cutscenes, not get any loot, not see any sub squads. and most of all I won’t be able to successfully get on the extract helicopter… Does anyone know how to fix this bug?

[real moth]

You need to finish wony

[pale spindle]

finish what?

[real moth]

Warlords of New York, the dlc

[pale spindle]

fr? this is 100% ?

[real moth]

Yea, countdown is bugged for you if you don't finish it unfortunately

[pale spindle]

wtf mate

how come my buddy that doesn’t have WONY dlc doesn’t have issues with countdown?

[real moth]

Idk, but when they enabled endgame for everybody, they broke a ton of stuff

[pale spindle]

Is there anything else I need to complete ?

[real moth]

Not afaik

[pale spindle]

Thank you bro i’ve asked so many people and you’re the first one with an actual answer

[covert owl]

i wanna say thank you for division 2 team for a patch 21.2 i didnt ping anyone but i wanna say again thank you hope its going to happen tomorrow

[devout gorge]

heyya anyone know how to fix my workbench?
im upgrading it for the 10000x time and it stays on blue blueprints

[tiny oar]

you need to wait for thrusday for the fix

[devout gorge]

owh tysm

wasted way to much ressources for it sadly

[meager wind]

Hey, I just recently came back to the game after a looooooooooooooooong time and I just redid the base game. Is it worth to stick around for the Black Tusk shenanigans in DC or should I focus on NY until that's finished?

[tiny oar]

the black tusk will come back every week, do what you prefer

[umbral hearth]

control point bug finally being fixed, lesssgooooo

hoping this update doesnt introduce any other bugs that kill my motivation

[inner elbow]

This is why I play the game. To find bugs

[tiny oar]

sir this is the division not helldivers 2

[kind veldt]

he said find not squash

[tiny oar]

super earth wouldnt support you

[pale spindle]

what is the bug

[real creek]

They reset everytime you reload the map.

[haughty gate]

im looking to get back into the division games, i played the division 1 when it came out a long time ago on console, i play pc now; which division game should i get now?

[austere whale]

Anyone wanna hunt hunters with me 🤔

[tiny oar]

you can get both + dlc for dirt cheap now, you should try

[cold plume]

does capacitor and mechanical animal work together?

[tiny oar]

yes

its capped at 6 tho so not very useful

[cold plume]

why not usefull u get 6 skill lvls and on top of that 4 red cores 5 if using technician

cuz i saw someone use mechanical animal and some shotgun to get striker stacks fast but im like why not use capacitor and just get the passive damage since ur getting stacks anyway

[rustic stratus]

the capacitors very bottom part of the talent only works if you have skill tiers, strikers isnt a skill tier set

[cold plume]

yeah but you get skill tiers from mechanical animal

[rustic stratus]

if you can keep up kills within x amount of seconds

and the overcharge cooldown for the mechanical animal, yes the gun is good, but cooldown is really long just like BTSU datagloves

[cold plume]

but when ur on cooldown from overcharge then u have pernament 6 stacks if you keep killing yes?

im not trying to argur or anything btw i just think im missing something this seems like a good combo tho i see a build where someone runs just a semi auto shotgun instead of capacitor when i think the passive dmg would be better than fast striker stacks that ur gonna have anyway

argue*

[rustic stratus]

yes but again, the whole reason you would use those 2, is for a skill build, not strikers, and i do agree with you, those 2 together could be good, but capacitor just isnt the right gun for striker (my personal opinion)

me personally i use a cmmg banshee, with a carbine 7 and the exotic liberty pistol with strikers

or the busy little bee, both are great for bonus weapon damage on top of strikers

[reef reef]

mfw i get elected because of a couple thousand peeps in a discord server

[tiny oar]

striker with skill tier is not good at all

the goal of capacitor is to boost your skill damage and have a bit of weapon damage so its not too bad

AND that requires you to get the kill with mechanical first

so capacitor is basically stopping you from getting the buff

so either you use mechanical to kill and its a fine weapon, not great or bad, but decent

or you swap to capacitor and you will burst for maybe 15s some guy and after that you lost all stacks

while if you had a red core striker set and not yellow, you would use any other gun to destroy

[worthy onyx]

Yellow strikers with cap is definitely workable

Capacitor even without utilizing the skill damage is still pretty okay, considering it comes with a 30% crit damage mod

[tiny oar]

why would you do that when red striker + capacitor has double the wepaon damage tho ?

you would be useless without stacks

and your skill damage/haste/etc would be super bad

[worthy onyx]

You can run picarios and one other piece of brazos, which allows you to run another red core

That'll leave you at a 15% awpd defecit

Well the whole purpose of running yellow strikers is for the skill tiers

You can run a shield and like booster hive

[tiny oar]

yeah you can

but should you

[worthy onyx]

Now if you add 15% expertise, you'd be basically at the same amount of weapon damage as a striker build without expertise

Obviously there would be less crit damage

Granted you can make the argument that you can make back that damage by running a striker drone

Probably not, but I'm pretty sure it'll be pretty close ish

It's a better alternative to running blue strikers if you want to have a tier 6 shield

[small spear]

blue striker mentioned

[kind veldt]

i think people were running yellow striker for damage stacking for skills that i thinkg got changed ages ago?

[real creek]

Nope.

[peak nova]

Anyone delta rn?

[tiny oar]

yep

i was in middle of descent so not great

[peak nova]

Middle of summit here (:

[tiny oar]

at least it saves your floor

[peak nova]

Yeah..

[limpid smelt]

guys hey

can i ask something

[spare cove]

Sure

[limpid smelt]

i run countdown but i thnk always i bugged because there is no loot and time to extract i cant finish it im always staying the map and npcs doesnt saw me i can shoot them but they dont respond how can i fix it

[spare cove]

Did you finish WONY's campaign? If not, you should do that

[limpid smelt]

but i cant finish countdown succesfull 2 times

[spare cove]

Are you not listening? You should finish the Warlords of New York campaign first

[limpid smelt]

ye i am listening i just wonder how can i succesfull 2 times ofc im running WONY campaign but now finish it

[lunar hare]

Chill out. Maybe it's a bug and you're the one not "listening".

And I don't think WoNY is the issue for him not being able to run CD appropriately.

[limpid smelt]

so what u think about this Where do you think the problem is?

[tiny heart]

so am i stuck not being able to do countdown or raids becuase everytime i matchamke for one it says session owner missing

[kind veldt]

it's gonna be one of those days huh

[torpid tendon]

Well, this is wild. If you don't have the expansion you can run countdown, but if you do have the expansion you must finish wony before being able to run countdown......

[kind veldt]

weird checks in the system

gonna get patched tomorrow apparently still

[tiny oar]

im at nemesis

wish me luck

[tiny heart]

where are the dz venders?

[spare cove]

Inside the main entrance

[small spear]

gl

[tiny heart]

so can anyone help me and tell me why it kicks me from the team every time on countdown

[tiny oar]

did you do new york ?

[tiny heart]

oh i gotta do the whole story line in new york?

[small spear]

yes

[tiny heart]

bruh what da

howe long do u think it takes

[tiny oar]

a while

[real moth]

It can be done in a couple of hours solo, faster when having a buddy boost you through it.

[tiny heart]

i mean im lvl 40 already

[tiny oar]

still kinda long tbh

its like doing a full manhunt

[spare cove]

Eh, full Manhunts are usually 3 hours long. Not that short, tbh

[torpid tendon]

Since they're lvl 40 it's possible to do it real quick. Bc iirc the missions are set to story difficulty

[worn surge]

I beg they somehow fix the nade glitch

Servers are just constantly getting crashed because kids sit there and do the nade glitch

[lunar hare]

?

[kind veldt]

dont remember having server crashing granades at the moment

[torpid tendon]

I never heard of that.

[tiny oar]

never heard of it either

but you know what i heard of

that fkin bullet king exotic dropping with reload spead attribute

what a chad attribute

[wise basalt]

when matchmaking via 'random activity' is there a way to see the activity before joining?

[severe loom]

hallo gays i need help

[kind veldt]

i think it might show on the lower corner of hte screen "invited to XXXX by agent YYYY"

[modest sand]

Anyone who still play division 1 on pc?

[kind veldt]

prob the people on the div1 channels

[fluid meadow]

All i know is that if you're in proximity it'll crash you.

[worn surge]

Nah it can literally be in any DZ

As long as the person doing it is in the same region (server) as you

[fluid meadow]

You were in that server with the triple manhunt right?

[worn surge]

So if I’m in a an entire different lobby but someone still does it in east then it crashes you

[fluid meadow]

It crashed at the end but there was no nade

[worn surge]

Cause the person doing it was in a diff server (lobby)

[fluid meadow]

I only know of a couple that do it. Ex: ximlag

Actually have a clip of them doing that if you're interested

It mostly involves lagswitching which is in itself something you can't really "fix"

[quick wolf]

So uhh... Have the confirmed the lack of exotic drops in Countdown yet?

[worthy onyx]

Exotic drops are quite rare in countdown

[quick wolf]

Uh... Were they just bugged before then? Because I don't think like... four consecutive days without a drop is normal...

I used to get at least one between 4-7 runs. And on a good day, I could get as many as one every 3rd-4th run.

My last drop was a Memento from the 21st.

I haven't gotten one since then.

If this was an intentional nerf I'd at least like some communication on it. That's why I ask.

[dense saffron]

I noticed that, tried getting a backfire and I got a lady death, wasn’t the gun I was looking for so I deconstructed it

[simple remnant]

Yyyo

[glad sapphire]

scheduled maintenance on a thursday...RIGHT...

i feel like i am 19 again: nothing to do while working

[flat flower]

Anybody know how big the update is?

[brisk copper]

It's not an update, it's to try and fix things that have been stuffed up in the game with so called world tie seasons crap.

[elfin hazel]

there could be client sided fixes which would need an update

[inner elbow]

3.86 GB for Ubisoft version

[lavish sandal]

3.92 on Xbox

[elfin hazel]

steam has not gotten it yet it would seem

1.4/4.6 on steam

they are listening

[inner elbow]

I was gonna check myself

[flat flower]

WOW only 1.4? Hell yeah. I'll take a 1.4 steam as opposed to a 3.8 on ubisoft

Glad I switched to steam long ago

[inner elbow]

mfw I have both Ubi and steam versions installed in one folder so I'll have to do both

[flat flower]

Rip

[elfin hazel]

down for maintenance should be back up <t:1721903400:R> / <t:1721903400:t> (this is your local time, don't worry about conversion)

[elfin hazel]

it has been a while since i have been up for one of these

can't wait to find out what this mysterious side mission is

[flat flower]

Keyword here guys is should ... We all know how these updates go

[elfin hazel]

and yet people still rage about another hour or two

[inner elbow]

there's a talent in the game, called

optimist.

so I'm going to be just that

[flat flower]

I do find it a little annoying it got cancelled for Tuesday and slapped on for Thursday with borderline little notice, but hey if they fix their buggy mess of a game, I'm not gonna cry

Will they compensate with clan caches for the lack of clan XP for a solid month?

[elfin hazel]

idrc cus the posts were only up for what 10ish minutes

they were taking down fast enough that I don't think its a problem

[flat flower]

I saw it as well, then watched it disappeared and was like "huh?? Maybe it's just a simple update where only code was changed??? Cool I guess"... Logged in on Tuesday, bugs still there 😂

[flat flower]

Honestly the only time it would be acceptable to be upset is if maintenance is expected for 3h downtime and it gets extended by another 9 hours

That's basically 12h total maintenance

[elfin hazel]

I would agree but those nights here are awful so while I do agree a lot of people seem to not understand the difference between reasonably upset and acting like the world is going to end

[spare cove]

I feel like some people may have some addiction issues when they act like 3+ hours maintenance is the end of the world.

[hybrid ore]

A lot of the folks who come on here when maintenance is on just to stir up trouble are doing it purely for their own amusement, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them didn't even play the game anymore.

[elfin hazel]

with how negatively they talk about the game its a surprise they're still even here

[lunar hare]

mAiNtNaNcE?

[dense saffron]

Guess we have to be perfectly optimistic
Dad joke I know

[inner elbow]

More so being impatient than being addicted.

[spare cove]

Maybe. But I do agree with what Rivens said

[hybrid ore]

Wishing death upon the dev team over a delay with maintenance is more than impatience.

[elfin hazel]

suing for false advertisement has to be my favorite overreaction to a delay still

its happened at least twice

[inner elbow]

Oh I hadn't been paying attention to the full extent of the conversation

[hybrid ore]

A lot of the really bad stuff is filtered out. But we see it.

[wind turret]

some people forget its a game and not real life

[blazing sleet]

Is div2 down

Im getting mike01 error

[inner elbow]

Yes

[wind turret]

Yep down for a while longer if no delays

[glad sapphire]

2hours in on a 4h service

[wind turret]

it is what it is

[glad sapphire]

useing the time to complete collection catalogue

[blazing sleet]

Offline mode for division 2 would be nice

[strange narwhal]

When will servers be online? Anyone know?

[unique bramble]

Estimated downtime is 3 hours, but we know that's not true

[inner elbow]

maintenance completed

[inner elbow]

yeah so not true, that it finished an hour ahead of schedule, lol

[strange narwhal]

Sweet

[molten laurel]

my characters are all messed up

cant login

character screen is just a bunch of bodyless heads with white eyes

kinda freaky

[lofty jolt]

only on pc i think bruh

[tulip palm]

cant login. game crashes after update

[tropic hazel]

when is ubisoft going to fix the Rock N Roll Bug with the Ammo?

[blazing sleet]

Wait didn't maintainace complete 19h back

[inner elbow]

Control Point reset bug fixed: check
After-kill xp modifier: not fixed

[inner elbow]

nope, never had it. probably just a your local server cluster resetting

[tiny oar]

what is the after kill xp modifier

[thorn cape]

Anyone realize the new bundle is just the hb outfit but they added a mask u have to pay for 😭

Mask alone is about 700 premium credits 😭

[inner elbow]

the additional xp you get after each encounter like muti-kill, survivor, headshot and weakpoint kills

[tiny oar]

whats bugged about it

[inner elbow]

for non-WoNY agents they're counted twice

[tiny oar]

lol

[elfin hazel]

bought the 650 credit mask and now I only have 4 credits 💀

[spare cove]

Wasn't Heartbreaker outfit in a season pass or an apparel event?

[elfin hazel]

season pass

season 9

[spare cove]

Ah, now I remember. Still, I would like if they do re-runs of previous seasons. Or better yet, make it able to level up previous season passes

[elfin hazel]

so while the pricing is kinda hurtful to the wallet its a nice step forward

I think the one seasonal apparel I missed was the season 2 apparel event completion reward : (

[spare cove]

I still think giving players the option to level up previous season passes is a more healthier option IMO

[elfin hazel]

100% but I can atleast understand why its this way

whenever this game goes back to life support I'm sure they'll rerun

[tiny oar]

how much u guys spent on skins so far ?

[spare cove]

I don't remember much, but I do know I often Premium Credits for Apparel Events since I'm too lazy to grind every 4 SHD levels for the keys.

For the time being, I'm tempted to buy the outfits from Escalation since I missed out

[tiny oar]

im tempted to buy the nexus skins

they look much more cool

but so expensive

usually im fine with putting a bit of money in a game if i have fun

but this one is on life support and will die out when div 3 release

so no really thrilled

[elfin hazel]

not a clue

most if not all of my money spent on this game has been for DLCs and season passes

I wanna say maybe 200-300(CAD) over the 6 years so far

[loud storm]

How do the even math?!?.

650 for mask sure its alot but then the "bundle" has a 40% discount and i iwn 4/5 pieces already is says 780 credits and thatis with the 40%discount...... i mean 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

The math aint mathing

[elfin hazel]

I think theres a weapon skin that doesn't get shown for some reason

cus I have all the items shown and its saying I can buy the bundle for 340 credits

[loud storm]

Premium rip off is what you get

Same was with previous bu dle the stars and strips... buying each piece seperate was cheaper then the bundle even tho the bundle had 26% or so discount

[kind veldt]

0

if recruiter didnt convince me to spend any money on costumes, dont think any other costume will

[elfin hazel]

I just loveeeeee spending money

[spare cove]

How I spend my money is nobody's business but mine

[modest lintel]

It's ubisoft's business to know how much u spend on skins

[spare cove]

They already know. They have my account 😛

I was more talking about people who throw tantrums whenever they see folks spending money

[elfin hazel]

what good is money if not to be spent is my view

[modest lintel]

thank u ubisoft for free premium credits

[tiny oar]

how u get free credits ?

[tiny oar]

who does that tho ?

[spare cove]

Terminally online Twitter users, for instance

[tiny oar]

yeah but who cares about them

[elfin hazel]

I've seen it here and there in the discord

[tiny oar]

meh

[elfin hazel]

people really love to say vote with your wallet and then are bewildered by people voting with their wallets

[modest lintel]

not sure, rather not wanting to know. suddenly had 5k credits. didn't make any purchase. im sure im not the only one

[tiny oar]

people saying that are dumb af, and only think about themselves

[tiny oar]

lmao wtf

i think i got the 200 free credits ubi gave at some point

thats it

[modest lintel]

don't recalled the 200 free credits...

[tiny oar]

i wish i wasnt poor af

[modest lintel]

i dont think i can donate this premium credits....still got like more than 2k left

not sure what else to buy

[tiny oar]

if i had credits id buy the year 1 missions and some skins

maybe the lulaby skin too so i can stop having empty space in the exotic wall

[modest lintel]

not sure what year 1 missions was...im sure i did most of content in div 2, i bought lots of emotes, skins. didn't pay for specialization.

[elfin hazel]

I'd hold onto it for season passes

personally

[modest lintel]

YEAP! that's what i've been doing to be honest

but these days, i care more about the appearance colors from the season pass rather than crafting caches.

[tiny oar]

the classified missions

i think there are 8

it cost 20e

or 2k credits

[modest lintel]

oh...i had it ages ago...did some of them, but didn't finish all. coz i spend less time in pve these days

[tiny oar]

like it cost more than the game + wony lmao

[modest lintel]

even i do pve in dz

still have 5 classified missions i havent done

[tiny oar]

gimme

[modest lintel]

cant transfer anything

[tiny oar]

u meanie

[spare cove]

Is it possible to gift DLCs in Ubi Connect?

[tiny oar]

i dont think so

and not with premium credits especially

[spare cove]

Ah, shame. Cuz I would've gifted you the Year 1 Pass

[tiny oar]

its ok

dw

[thorny talon]

no

[thorny talon]

You can tell me code 🤓

[spare cove]

No thanks. Last time someone asked me for a code, I got my account hacked.

Don't wanna go through that again

[thorny talon]

😨

Enable 2fa

[tiny oar]

yeah 2fa is important

almost lost my steam account but f2a saved me

hm

game crash on launch now

wtf is going on

[spare cove]

Yeah, I already have 2fa, so I got that covered.

[fiery cloud]

Hey .drib, Vsvm

[dark matrix]

same for me

suddenly crashes when loading into character

we're back to the post-season 4 era lol

[peak nova]

Anyone blackscreen after the latest update?

[dark matrix]

yeah the game crashes now

[atomic prism]

same here, game game crashes when I choose the character, I've verified the files but it didn't work.. thanks Ubi

[loud storm]

Game wont load past character selection.... quess thats one way for us to find new bugs 🤣

1/3 times it loads other times it dashboards

[tiny oar]

i just got delta again

think im gonna stop for today

[vivid lynx]

my game keeps crashing when i login to a chracter during the loading screen after this patch
anyone else have this issue?

[vivid lynx]

oh yes same here

[frosty wadi]

Only massive would manage to delay a patch, release it, and have it not work

[clever tulip]

ISAC: New bugs detected.🤣

[boreal jasper]

finally control point resetting every login got fixed, my farming got slowed significantly because of that bug 😡

[tiny oar]

why ?

[small spear]

can't fast travel as easily ig

not that it bothered me because i go for pub execs and they're easy enough to get to

[tiny oar]

i dont even bother with open world activities tbh

they are all the same

[small spear]

i need them to level

[tiny oar]

yeah, i should lvl too, but i find them too boring

im not even shd 1k

[small spear]

i need to for apparel event anyway

i always get all the apparel

[finite cradle]

Do the devs actually read the feedback channels?

[tender wave]

When a pts is active I believe community managers monitor those channels and summarise feedback for the devs.

Other than that it's extremely rare to see a blue name here

[finite cradle]

I had an idea I thought would be cool--recruitable friendlies (NPCs) who are complaining about being bored. I posted it on the main Ubisoft channel under the Division 2

I wish we could recruit them the way you can in Assassin's Creed: Syndicate.

[tiny oar]

i mean you get so much time to farm that, normal activities are enough imo

i think i got last apparel completed in like 3/4 days

[small spear]

if you've been through nexus apparel event, that needed 116 levels fyi

[finite cradle]

Eh, the vanity items never interested me. I'm more into the combat than anything else.

[tender wave]

Oh, the Ubisoft support discord is a different thing, they have more official mods to pass stuff to the devs.
I wouldn't pin many hopes on getting ideas heard though, they're generally much more work than they seem and the few devs we have are pretty busy

[small spear]

and i'm a speed person so i want those done as fast as i can so i can focus on things i want to do

legendary speeds still my thing

[tiny oar]

i wasnt there at that moment, and im kinda sad :(

i would loved the nexus apparel

and i dont want to buy it with money when its so expensive

[small spear]

i never buy grindable stuff with money

i got the tools needed to speed grind

[tiny oar]

yeah but i cant grind it anymore

so im stuck

[small spear]

just that back then, needing 100+ levels is absurd for an apparel event

[tiny oar]

how many lvl were needed for crossroads ?

[finite cradle]

I figure, these NPCs are always wandering around randomly, bitching about being bored. Well, why not be able to recruit them to use as cannon fodder and put in designated positions when assaulting CPs? It would be cool to be able to walk around with them, attacking hostage points and other event instances.

[small spear]

not that many. i think like 3/4

[tiny oar]

3/4 ?

[small spear]

but yeah nexus was the most demanding one

like 3/4th of nexus

[tiny oar]

ah

yeah well i wish i could have nexus back

or at least buy thoses with textiles

[viral hare]

Hi new to div 2 any tips for the endgame stuff

[tiny oar]

yes click on enemy's head and have fun

but you can also check #td2-build-advice if you need help

[kind veldt]

dont rush, slow and steady wins the race

[finite cradle]

I'd take recruiting the dogs over endgame.

[rich garnet]

this game really blows you away with all the content available

reminds me of spidermans open world but guns

[atomic prism]

I can start the game in windowed mode, if you try to run the game on fullscreen it crashes, hopefully it will be helpful for some people

[finite cradle]

Destructible environments would be cool, too.

[tiny oar]

would be impossible to balance

some stuff are destructibles but its VERY long to do so

like if you empty a few mags in a thin concrete wall it create a hole

[finite cradle]

Yeah, I get that. Still, would be cool to be able to blow a hole in a wall and make your own door.

[tiny oar]

well some mission let you do that

[finite cradle]

True, but those are pre-set. I'm talking about just being able to use a grenade to blow a hole in a fence or wall in an alley so you can cut through.

[real creek]

Just go play R6

[finite cradle]

Not the same dynamic, though. It's not really open world sandbox, is it?

Bad Company was lovely with the ability to knock down entire buildings. lmao

[tiny oar]

yeah but as said, it would destroy balance in the game

[midnight lotus]

house breaching 101:demolish it with a tank

(actually dont you’d get c4’ed faster than young sheldon can say bazinga)

[grand swan]

Dude

The projects for the regulus revolver is painful

[finite cradle]

That's why I think just the recruitable allies for cannon fodder--or even just being able to stop and pet a dog/recruit a dog to run around with you would be cool.

[midnight lotus]

for essentially one of the strongest weapon in the game its probably worth it

[grand swan]

Yep

[finite cradle]

Not really imbalancing to have the ability to recruit one of the pooches running around.

[kind veldt]

yeah it's a bit awkward, just remember to grab those keys and chests for the mats

[tiny oar]

you're supposed to save thoses allies not sacrifice them lmao

also they help you when taking cp

[finite cradle]

lol Sacrifices must be made. "Now, get behind that wall and shoot anything that moves."

[grand swan]

Also do you need to complete all projects to get the blueprint or you can get it by redoing the raid

[midnight lotus]

that sounds like a lot of unnecessary dev time imo
focusing resources on little gimmicks is kinda not it

[tiny oar]

thats what would get you rogue

you're not here to sacrifice civilians

you're the one being sacrificed

[midnight lotus]

iirc all of them,its been a while

[tiny oar]

your goal is to save people, not kill them to save you

[finite cradle]

I'm referring to outside CP assaults. Just being able to recruit the allies on patrol or even ones you rescue who want some revenge.

[grand swan]

What does iirc means

I forgot about it lol

[midnight lotus]

if i remember correctly

[tiny oar]

they are still civilians

[grand swan]

Oof

[midnight lotus]

i think he has a point,from a player standpoint they’re just NPC fodders

[tiny oar]

then why we even fight for ?

[finite cradle]

In war, no such thing exists. If they're walking around on patrol and mixing it up with enemies, they're already considered part of the war effort, so why not be able to use them more effectively, or call them in when you need support because the game is spawning enemy wave after wave during an alert 4?

[kind veldt]

regulus project is like 3 steps, doing the raid and donating mats, crafting some pieces and something else, collecteing exotic pieces from the bosses + getting a revolver from

[tiny oar]

yes, civilians exist in war, thats why there are a thing called : rules of engagement

[midnight lotus]

you pick up a gun you decided to join the movement

[finite cradle]

This ^

[midnight lotus]

if you have doubts bout it settlement’s that way

[kind veldt]

i dont think officially the state of the US is war

[finite cradle]

They're no longer civilians when they're out on patrol or doing target practice.

[tiny oar]

they are still civilians, they are not army

[midnight lotus]

invasion of a Russian PMC is pretty much a war at this point

[kind veldt]

i could go on about logistics of national reserve vs deploying the army inside the states, federation organizations and militie, but this aint it

[kind veldt]

here's the thing the president was on their side now what?

[tiny oar]

guys, i get that would be fun and all, but there need to be a reason for it, if you just tell a guy to die, isaac would flag you as rogue

[finite cradle]

They'd either be recruited by the army, or they'd be recruited by the enemy. Fighting age men and women aren't going to just be allowed to sit on the sidelines. So again, if they're already in the fight, why not use them more effectively? Give us the ability to recruit a max of like 3, and then be able to highlight cover areas to put them behind to ambush enemy patrols and resource trains.

[tiny oar]

so, you're a war crime apologist now ? kill everything and everyone especially thoses who dont fight ?

[finite cradle]

Or give us a flare gun like in Falout 4 where we can call in reinforcements anywhere on the map?

[tiny oar]

like wtf

[kind veldt]

we do call reinforcements for control points tho

[midnight lotus]

the president that betrayed the nation to side with them,sure
if he could claim legitimacy he’d have told SHD to stand down given that it is stated explicitly that SHD agents only answer to the POTUS

[finite cradle]

I get it at the CPs, but what about the patrols? Why not be able to go on your own patrols and recruit them to rescue hostages and recover resources, too?

[midnight lotus]

which guess what,he did not
so he’s either a brainlet or he’s not a “real” president

[tiny oar]

because they arent your own soldiers

[finite cradle]

The SHD overrides other civilian and army authority. Therefore, call it "deputization."

[tiny oar]

lol no

you have no authority to do this

you're specifically sent alone

[finite cradle]

Many of them whine that they're bored, that nothing ever happens, that guard duty sucks. Well, why not go out on a run or two with an SHD agent to provide backup?

[kind veldt]

i dont think that works

[midnight lotus]

when he said “use them as fodder” its probably from a gameplay standpoint

[tiny oar]

npc : guys im bored
you : wanna die ?

[kind veldt]

also for the president thing we never got a clear answer how is the division meant to be deactivated

[finite cradle]

Yes, fodder from a gameplay standpoint. Not to send them in to just watch them die. I mean, to place them strategically and be able to ambush enemy resource lines or go after hostage points.

[midnight lotus]

its exactly how it works actually,in div1 its stated that a division agent outranks local authority and are also fully autonomous

[tiny oar]

from gameplay standpoint you cant do that, because again, balance

npc have almost 0 damage

[finite cradle]

They're already doing that to some degree, but with an SHD along, they'd be far more effective.

[tiny oar]

they are here for support, nothing else

[finite cradle]

So support me, then.

[midnight lotus]

an agent would work with local authorities and share resources but agents have the final call in most things

[tiny oar]

agents cant force people to do anything

[midnight lotus]

i mean morally sure

more like “giving command”

[tiny oar]

at some point you gotta have a lore that works with gameplay

and division lore is more or less saying "gtfo civilians we handle this"

[finite cradle]

Let me call them in outside of CP assaults. I fire off this mcguffin and some hardcore NPCs show up to answer the call and kick some enemy butt. There's got to be some marines and vets among the "civilians" in the game who would likely jump at a chance to tag along and strike out at the enemies.

[midnight lotus]

look i just think that from a gameplay standpoint militias can be used as fodders

on a lore standpoint they’re there to help you

[finite cradle]

The NPCs even say as much. "I wish something would happen--guard duty is so boring!"

[tiny oar]

why would you have a game that does that, its litterally saying "press this button so you dont play the game"

[midnight lotus]

so what you’d imagine as an agent saying “get out there and die for me” would be more like “provide cover fire” or something

[finite cradle]

I'm sure that's a persuasive argument and why AC:S included recruitable NPCs.

[kind veldt]

honestly at this point you two are blowing this out of proportion

[midnight lotus]

its not like it’d be too unbalanced

NPCs do 0 damage and they still draw aggro like normal

[finite cradle]

Especially when you can already recruit other players. How is two SHD agents less powerful than three NPCs nobodies?

[still temple]

actually, friendly NPCs deal a lot of damage; in Ghost Recon Breakpoint (also Ubisoft title) you can recruit friendly patrols and give them commands, send them to create diversions so you can do the main thing in missions

[midnight lotus]

you mean wildlands

[tiny oar]

this is not a tactical shooter

[still temple]

no, Breakpoint

[tiny oar]

we aint playing ghost recon or r6

[finite cradle]

It's an open world sandbox, and being able to recruit NPCs would enhance that.

[tiny oar]

how ?

[still temple]

unironically, this is exactly what it is right now

[tiny oar]

if you can recruits people to do the work for you, whats the point

[midnight lotus]

breakpoint,a random patrol pulls up and alerts the entire base

[tiny oar]

div 2 is not a tac shooter and never will be

[finite cradle]

It's not doing your work for you. It's simply countering the engine's penchant for spawning extra enemies near an instance so that they join in and wipe the floor with you.

[still temple]

this is the point

[midnight lotus]

if you take away the bullet sponge the AI is pretty good actually

[kind veldt]

civilians are interested in just keeping their community safes, not being agents so saying lore wise you could go around abusing authority to force a man to march to his death because he was bored doesnt sound convincing.
calling backup is not something new as ghost recon wildlands has it and pretty sure far cry 5-6 also allow you to recruit random people but those game have a different set of rules
going by how control points battle goes, they are just dumb meatshields that add 0 depth to gameplay really

[tiny oar]

then just spawn less enemies instead ?

[midnight lotus]

they actually nerfed the AI from beta to release because they’re a bit too smart

[finite cradle]

And how would being able to recruit the doggos you see imbalance the game?

[finite cradle]

You're being disingenous.

[tiny oar]

why do you think the decoy exist ?

[tiny oar]

man thats litterally your argument : too much npc

[kind veldt]

well ot be fair skills are meant to be force multipliers, letting turrets, drones + yourself as 3 man in a battle

[finite cradle]

The game will spawn enemies near an instance, especially on Alert 4, which effectively raises the alert even higher, even though those extra enemies weren't part of the original CP assault. The enemies nearby overhear, come running, and instead of 20 enemies, you now have to single-handedly fight 40.

[kind veldt]

unless you interrupt something like supply delivery there arent going to be extra waves from random moving patrols

[tiny oar]

i mean if you get overwhelmed on cp thats a skill issue, not a need for npc

[finite cradle]

The Alert levels are broken because of how the game spawns enemies near an instance. Every single time I amp up the alert to 4 and go after a CP, the game will spawn enemies nearby in their own instances (like hostage or propaganda) and they come running to join in the melee of the CP assault, even though the Alert 4 CP assault already had like 20 enemies.

[tiny oar]

there is a radius enemies cant spawn in near cp

[kind veldt]

unless they are stupidly close i almost never see that happening

[tiny oar]

same for events

[kind veldt]

so i only see extra coming from supply platrols

[finite cradle]

Right, and they spawn right outside that radius, then join in, so it doesn't matter that they can't spawn within the radius.

It happens every single time on PS4 that I've seen.

[tiny oar]

if they are outside that radius and you agro them, its a you problem

that radius is further than the agro range

like by a huge margin

[kind veldt]

honeslty sounds way more that your game is bugged than that being the regular case

[finite cradle]

I don't have to agro them, they get agro from overhearing their buddies getting their asses handed to them.

[kind veldt]

for a gunfight to attract someone 200m from control point

[finite cradle]

This happens without fail nine times out of ten.

[tiny oar]

they cant "hear" a fight, they can only react to whats close to them, if you're close to them, you're not close to cp

[full zinc]

Convoys travel to control points

So extra stuff showing up is normal

[kind veldt]

he's saying it happens ot hostages and others, not supply convoys

[still temple]

actually, the aggro radius from one activity overlaps another activity, that's why extra NPCs who doesn't have anything to do with current CP

[tiny oar]

if you shoot the cp and your bullets go by and hit an npc at hostage situation thats not "they hear a fight"

[full zinc]

Yeah. Anything can be aggro to an activity

[finite cradle]

If you're halfway between the CP and the spawning point, guess what? The issue is irrelevant. They get agro from you being near and suddenly Alert 4 is no Alert 5 or 6 effectively because you're fighting off the CP and the Hostage and the Propaganda and the resource patrol.

[tiny oar]

i mean

dont agro them before going to cp ?

[kind veldt]

from most of my experiences the activities are so far apart i dont have issues with them overlapping outside of travelling supply convoys, otherwise it happens 1/50 times for me

[tiny oar]

or clear them before

if you really see an activity too close, just clear it

[finite cradle]

The attack on the CP is what aggros them. And they're not there before the assault on the CP--they only spawn in after the attack is underway.

[full zinc]

I actually like when stuff shows up and I'm doing a cp. Makes whatever daily I'm working on go much faster

[tiny oar]

wait hold on

you're saying there is no activity, you go to cp, start fight, then an activity spawn and instant agro on you ?

[finite cradle]

Yes.

[tiny oar]

imma need a video proof of that

[finite cradle]

So my Alert 4 turns into a hamburger hill slog against wave after wave.

[still temple]

not activity per se, but a patrol or a convoy that spwans from thin air, it happens all the time

[tiny oar]

thats not what they said, they said specifically hostage/area activity

convoy happens its life

[finite cradle]

Even the ability to take your NPC allies and direct them to take up specific positions and hold them would be helpful because then you could place them in more defensible areas so they don't immediately get wiped by the gold enemies.

[full zinc]

Could always matchmake and have a few agents you can direct

[still temple]

when a convoy or a patrol spawns right behind me at 10 meters away in the very place I was 10 seconds ago, already shooting at me, this is not OK

[finite cradle]

I think this happens more on assaults on CPs near the border of another sector. You kick it off after amping it up to 4, get to fighting, almost finish, and suddenly, here comes a few waves of enemies from nearby instances.

[tiny oar]

they dont spawn out of thin air, they spawn from a cp

[finite cradle]

Or from an instance.

[still temple]

no, they have nothing to do with that CP

[tiny oar]

hold on

[still temple]

sometimes they are from different faction

[tiny oar]

what are you calling an instance

[tiny oar]

they still spawn from another cp, if they come by you should have seen their path on map

[still temple]

nope

still isolated NPCs

they are not coming from another CP

[kind veldt]

i dont think people are talking about the same thing anymore

[finite cradle]

Like a Hostage instance or Propaganda, or a random patrol just happens to show up right near the outer periphery of the CP assault, and because the enemies are firing off at me in the direction of that patrol or instance, suddenly I am flanked and getting it from both sides.

[tiny oar]

yeah something doesnt add up

[finite cradle]

Whereas being able to direct NPC allies to take up positions atop roofs or beind walls would help mitigate that and prevent being flanked.

[tiny oar]

man you're asking the wrong fix for a problem

npc wouldnt save you

[full zinc]

That's where skills come in ig. Which I think was already mentioned

[kind veldt]

here's what i know
random patrols can spawn form any faction at any place, really small groups and no reinforcements
supply convoys, spawn from CPs and move between them, will have reinforments and those will spawn from whatever spawn/truck/manhole is nearby when fight starts
open world activities spawn randomly from close to a control, will have reinforcement waves from nearby

[finite cradle]

The enemies in the CP can agro their own allies and thus "recruit" them into the fight. So why can't I? How come it's NEVER a friendly instance spawning in at the periphery of the CP? Always enemy.

[tiny oar]

npc cant spawn out of thin air in the game unless they create a event like hostage rescue

[tiny oar]

actually they cant

npc running toward you will not agro their friendly from another activity

its kinda dumb but it works this way

also if you have friendly cp

friendly guards can roam

for ressources for example

[finite cradle]

Okay, so I amp up a CP to Alert 4. Go to attack. Nothing else on the map near it. After the first wave is wiped and I'm in the CP, all the sudden, there's an enemy patrol that just happens to be in the area. Or there's a Propaganda instance that just happens to appear nearby. Or there's a Hostage situation that just happens to appear a block away. Boom. Now, I'm fighting the CP and whatever instance just randomly spawned.

[still temple]

if I could have $1 for every time when this happened, Bill Gates would be washing my windows right now

[tiny oar]

patrols can happen, its part of the game, and if propaganda is somewhat near, you can avoid agroing them

[kind veldt]

this specific case you are saying never happened to me

[finite cradle]

Read what I wrote. There is NOTHING on the map when I go to attack. Halfway through, stuff starts spawning in.

Happens ALL the time to me.

[tiny oar]

man, the game litterally block spawns on your screen, it will force out a spawn behind a door to not spawn in front of you, you can abuse it and force the game to spawn at certain places this way

[finite cradle]

Being able to position allies at critical points to distract those spawning enemies would help by allowing me to finish the CP enemies before moving on and finishing the others.

[tiny oar]

we didnt say no activity can spawn

[kind veldt]

honestly sounds more like your version is bugged than anything, since you are being very specific about being from other activities and not supply convoys

[tiny oar]

we said you shouldnt agro them

[finite cradle]

I don't agro them.

[tiny oar]

then how they come at you ?

[finite cradle]

They get agro'd by the enemies I am fighting.

[tiny oar]

enemies cant agro their own faction

if they agro another faction then let them fight

[finite cradle]

I'm not even shooting in their direction because they're usually behind me. The only explanation is that the enemies I'm firing at are firing back at me, missing, and agro'ing the newly-spawned enemies behind me.

[kind veldt]

any gunfight noise can attract others, but never saw any activity get aggroed from a CP

[finite cradle]

Again, happens all the time to me. It's the most annoying thing about Alert 4 CPs.

[tiny oar]

yeah distance is too low

then how does this never happen to any of us ?

[finite cradle]

Someone already said it did above.

The one gas station at the corner of that five way intersection is horrible for this.

[tiny oar]

no, they said patrols, not activities like hostage or guards

patrols are known for this and its part of the game

[finite cradle]

Patrols, activities, whatever. When you're fighting two different instances, it doesn't matter their origin.

[tiny oar]

it very much matter

patrol is normal

hostage rescue its not

[finite cradle]

No, not when it magically spawns in right as I'm about to crush the CP, just in time to save their buddies.

It NEVER happens that it's a friendly patrol, always enemies.

[tiny oar]

again, they cant agro their own faction

[finite cradle]

Then the game engine is bugged.

[tiny oar]

and friendly patrol spawn if you have friendly cp

[finite cradle]

I'm not talking about sitting at a friendly CP.

[tiny oar]

i didnt say to sit at friendly cp

im saying they spawn patrols

[finite cradle]

I'm being as specific as possible, and you just ignore it. I'm shooting forward, not backwards, at a CP. Patrol or instance appears behind me. Gets agro'd. How's that happen since I'm not firing in their direction?

[tiny oar]

you're not listening

i told u patrols its normal

[finite cradle]

It's no different than the enemies calling in reinforcements when players are not allowed to.

[tiny oar]

and i told u npc cant agro their own faction

[finite cradle]

I'm telling you they can and do so regularly.

Even better is when they ignore each other and become allies to wipe you out before continuing to fight each other.

[spare cove]

Can you two hug it out? This is getting annoying

[tiny oar]

yeah im done

[finite cradle]

Good.

Back to my point. Recruitable allies would be awesome to send in, soften up the enemies, and then come in and finish them off.

OUTSIDE of CPs.

And no one has answered my question of how could recruiting the doggos running around possibly be imbalancing? Want a mechanical benefit? Give the player a few extra bits of resources for having the canine along, or be able to take them and sell them at the settlements to "rescue" the doggos.

[steel iris]

Some of you probably know this. FYI if not. I had to kill myself on Roosevelt Island and respawn because there was no ramp to the boat after eliminating all the hostiles and blowing up the fuel tanks. The ramp appeared after replaying the mission.

[tiny oar]

yeah agents should learn how to swim imo

[tender wave]

that's not a bug I've encountered before or seen mentioned, although it can take a bit of time (eg 20s or so) after blowing the fuel tanks before the ramp extends

[steel iris]

I hung around several minutes and then a friend joined and suggest that I kill myself.

[green cedar]

So has the new patch broken anything or we good ?

[kind veldt]

some people cant open their games

not sure if that was just a bit after maintnance or general issue

[steel iris]

@tender wave Thanks for your advice. I managed to complete the Basilisk challenge of killing him sans armor.

[tiny oar]

ah great

i had to boot up the games 4 times to actually log in, to then die in 1 frame from a hacker after 5s in dz

gotta love this game

[next thicket]

What sooorta builds do you need for the in the Incursion

[tiny oar]

dps or heal

[next thicket]

how long will it take for 1 healer 3 dps (maxed builds)

[tiny oar]

depends on how you understand the mecanics

[verbal rover]

the servers lag for me and the anouters

[real creek]

3 vets running a FTC and teaching everything might take 30 minutes depending on how much you teach. If you find 3 good players who zoom you thru it can be 10 minutes per run. imo a good pub run is about 15ish minutes.

[next thicket]

thx

[kind veldt]

would say around 20m is a safe bet if there are more veterans than newbies

[green cedar]

Game crashes when I load up my character

😃

Is this an issue with anyone else or is it one of those Reddit “ works for me you must be doing it wrong” situations

[tiny oar]

i have it too, have to load the game 4/5 times for it to go through

[green cedar]

Ah, ok I’ll give it a try

Thanks dude

Thought my character got bricked 😳 was about to do war crimes

[lunar hare]

your character got what?!

[kind veldt]

game never crashes if you never boot it up

[lunar hare]

so, what did Ubi break this time?

[kind veldt]

just crashes when you select your character sometimes

that's it

[vivid lynx]

LEVLED UP a new mule AND i dont have the keener watch stuck at level 40

and xp gain does not happen

[lunar hare]

impressive

[tiny oar]

there is an update

[kind veldt]

patch mentioned a new sidemission to unlock the watch

[vivid lynx]

do you know which one that is

[kind veldt]

Nope

[fluid plaza]

Guy, I see all freezed players and I can't play with others in mission, it's all de-synchronized. Do you know why? Please reply, thx

[real moth]

From the wording it sounded like any side mission will do

[kind veldt]

Is it countdown that is desync?

[fluid plaza]

They're all freezed, they don't move...Idk why

I'm in party with my friend and when I leave the party, an error message appears to my friend "DELTA-03"

Anyway I can't play with him, I see him stopped and viceversa

[wide oak]

dead game guys iv playd for 5h today and only come cross with 3 ppl max and im out there lookin for ppl to play with but no one there ...

[small spear]

are you playing the story?

[wide oak]

nope just end game stuff

[small spear]

like what? but basically depending on what you do, calling for backup might actually get you people

[wide oak]

my backup call was on stand by 2h just jump from mission to mission and waitin for somone

nvm the day is over maybe tomorrow

[small spear]

yeah time zone matters lol

[wide oak]

yup that too lol gn

[tiny heart]

is the incursion hard

im level level 40 watch level 80

[heavy prism]

Yes it's very hard

I still don't have a completion yet

[kind veldt]

have you done any legendary mission?

kinda like that

[tiny heart]

i havent done a lendary mission i dont think

i just need the oroborus

[tiny oar]

what are you even playing tho ?

[kind veldt]

i was saying because if you had tried any legendary mission you would have a better expectation of the difficulty

[tiny oar]

its hard, but its mostly mechanics to understand

you'll be vs invincible bosses so you need to learn how to make them vulnerable

[full zinc]

Speed runners make it look easy

[tiny oar]

yeah but they make everything look easy beside touching grass

[full zinc]

What's grass?

[small spear]

back in my day we ate it instead of lettuce when the days were rough

[simple remnant]

A beautiful thing is what is

[grand swan]

Can you get the metalurgic materials from the discovered difficulty??

[spare cove]

Metalurgic Materials?

[grand swan]

Yeah those for the regulus project

[kind veldt]

is that the crafting material for the gear sets?

[grand swan]

Yes

[full zinc]

Only regular. Discover doesnt give those mats

[grand swan]

Damn it

[full zinc]

If you have 2 agents you can run the second through raid and get enough in the first week

Shared mats.

[grand swan]

So i'll need to do 3 times the raid?

With one agent ofc

[full zinc]

Yes

[grand swan]

Ok

[full zinc]

3 fresh weekly runs

[grand swan]

I'll enjoy the opportunity with 4 keys and get one more so i can get the last piece before suffering again

Easier like this

[full zinc]

Make sure to complete 1 project first. All those mats get refunded and can be used on the second project

[grand swan]

K

[grand swan]

So if i complete one project i can complete the other one?

[full zinc]

Yeah

[grand swan]

Ok tysm

[grand swan]

Also can you donate the gear replicas or you need to get them legit

[tardy fern]

hey, you should go play the division 2 and enjoy the update
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[tiny oar]

people already abusing subtext

[spare cove]

Oh boy

[tardy fern]

its a little silly thats what makes it a nice addition i think

[tiny oar]

yeah but some people already use it to scam people

[tardy fern]

eh yeah i know but as long as you dont post a link in the subtext its harmless

i never click those links and nobody really should

[tiny oar]

yeah, but thats the goal, putting links there, and force people to click on them as if it was a discord thing

[tardy fern]

yep i see why its convincing

its been a registered discord specific text for the whole time and now that its mainstream scams do exist

[tiny oar]

ye

[tiny heart]

whats the best way to get the saint elmos engine

[kind veldt]

countdown or exotic caches

[tiny heart]

k

[grand swan]

Selling your soul to the RNG system

And grind all day and night

Through countdown

And exotic caches

[grand swan]

Subtext?

How do you do so?

I do not plan on scamming btw

I literally don't even know how to do so

[tawny breach]

I got 3 st elmos last night with my friend 2 from me 1 from him

😃

[tiny heart]

doinwhat

[tawny breach]

summit floors

he’s new to div2 so he wanted to try all the modes and liked summit

got 1 from a drop, 1 from the 15 floor cache and 1 from a floor clear reward

[crimson comet]

Do servers feel slow for anyone else?

[full zinc]

Most can be crafted. I think there is a 5.11 and badger piece that needs to be farmed iirc

[torpid iron]

None plays Summit on legendary anymore? I've been searching for over 30 minutes 😶

[still juniper]

Hey do they still update this game with new guns

[real moth]

Yea, there's new ones every season. At least exotic and named weapons

[tiny heart]

is the merciless good

[lunar hare]

no

[little hill]

Anyone know if the crafting bench fix actually worked? I dumped so many credits into already in scared to try ..

[magic blaze]

Being with 8 people in a party is do daunting.

[gritty pagoda]

update installs, and now Div2 crashes on startup - with 100% reliability.

nice going, Ubi!

[spare cove]

You'd have better luck doing an LFG

Besides, most players grind Countdown for loot anyways

[hasty crater]

Since the latest patch the game quits itself after I select a character
Any known fix?
I'm on PC

[kind veldt]

nope, just keep trying is what people done so far

[full zinc]

working normal for me so far

nice, clan xp is fixed 🥳

[full zinc]

there are a couple different crafting bench mentions related to upgrading in the 21.2 #patch-notes . check to see if either apply to you

[high elbow]

hello anyone notice div2 PC controller settings going wonky? my usual settings are 30. but it randomly jumps to 100 and then back down to normal at differnt times in a firefight or just walking around in game.

i havent played in awhile and ive never experienced this,

[lunar hare]

I just saw someone at the BoO with 101.4% chc. What the actual F.

[low lily]

Bro is built different

[lunar hare]

shd 811 and dude is running Incursion like nothing is wrong

[low lily]

Probably a new bug that show's wrong stats

[lunar hare]

nuh uh, gear rolls are recalibrated to CHC on a Striker's build

[low lily]

Yeah but.... does it show in stats that he has 100chc?

Show me a screenshot in dm's

[lunar hare]

nope, I made the maths and he has all that chc.
IIRC stats don't show the actual overcap unless you calculate it, right?

[full zinc]

probably just a visual glitch

[safe anchor]

game crash on every game launch, patch bugged game?

[full zinc]

im currently loaded in for a couple hours with no crashing or deltas. try restarting computer

[safe anchor]

ah DirextX 12 is bugged again 🙂

never ending story

It's interesting that other games work well with DX12 including XDefiant on Snowdrop Engine

and here it works for a year, then it doesn't work again for the next year and so on and so forth, every patch is a problem

is someone have this problem, fix for this is: switch to Dx11 and tehn back to DX12

[safe anchor]

Control ponts and Invaded missions reset on every login or loading - trello ststus is wrong, Is still not fixed

[tulip helm]

yea i've had the same, as you suspect i think its also related to dx12, i have before had some positive reult with removing "*._cicerodata" from "Documents/mygames/Tom Clancy's The Division 2" .. that fixed it for me.. I could get to char select and load to 22% before the game would crash, only on first launch.

[quick wolf]

Another day, another six hours without a single Exotic drop in Countdown. lmao this definitely has to be a bug, right? Today marks the fifth day of farming since my last Drop. And each day has been at least a minimum of like... 20 runs.

[tulip helm]

Think I ran that amount of hours, doing Rando Legendary missions last night, and i think i got 3-4 random drops not anything useful though I must add :p

[tulip helm]

Try to delete the "*.cicerodata" files located in "documents/mygames/Tom Clancy's The Division 2" that was what fixed it for me.

[tardy fern]

Theres no way they accidentally broke the 60% CHC cap in the update right

[glass gate]

What enemy boss in game dont have head hitbox?

[worthy onyx]

Pretty sure it's flipping the chd and chc values visually

[lunar hare]

chd of this guy was 43 something

[unique bramble]

I guess it's just visual glitch like that bighorn bug that shows negative headshot damage sometimes.

[unique bramble]

Sparkle on the stovepipe mission.

[tender wave]

One of the random open world bosses is also a war hound, and there are the two named marauders at the end of leggo Roosevelt

[dusty ridge]

Hey i played like 5yrs ago and stopped i noticed i have a an exotic ruthless levels 1 how do i upgrade it? starting over

dont remember anything deleted all old gear couldnt delete the ruthless? guessing it was some ubisoft reward

[unique bramble]

you probably have the year 1 bundle thing, just go to the crafting table and you should be able to reconfigure the exotic to level 40.

[dusty ridge]

omg the recoil need better gear and stats

[dusty ridge]

in the time been leveling to 40 can i upgrade it along the way?

from memory mods reduce recoil right?

[unique bramble]

you can't add mods to exotics, but you can reconfigure and get a random secondary attribute

[unique bramble]

and "upgrade" the level of a item doesn't exist in this game. if the item is exotic you can only reconfigure.

[dusty ridge]

wait so your saying if i find a lvl5 gun i like i cant upgrade it to lvl6?

[dusty ridge]

cool saved me a google trip

[unique bramble]

nope

[dusty ridge]

ok one more thing i appreciate your help max lvl is?

[unique bramble]

is 40

[dusty ridge]

thanks g 🫡

[tender wave]

The lvl 1 exotics you get from the bundle can't be upgraded, they're forever locked to lvl 1. On the upside, they don't use up stash space.

[tiny oar]

did the update changed black tusk bosses ?

i stg every single one of them is sending an airbust seeker now

i tried doing dz drop in invaded dz

4 seeker mine was insane

i was staggered for so long and died so fast with 2M armor

[tardy fern]

i logged on and i see my legacy manhunts are all reset from completed is that intentional

[fiery cloud]

Hey Local, Kettle 👋

[tardy fern]

lmao i am so lucky
i thought to myself "im gonna reconfigure this elmo, id say i want crit hit chance rolled on it"
i roll it once
boom crit hit chance on a decent 8.5

bless by rnjesus

[brazen marlin]

DTTOC is the meta/most optimal iirc

[tardy fern]

i know damage to target out of cover is optimal but i already have two elmos and one of them has dttoc already so i wanted a shakeup

my criticals are at 140% damage anyway though so i think itl work better in my position

[unique bramble]

Good thing that doesn't reset the expertise on that specific weapon

[tardy fern]

thank the lord

[tiny oar]

its random, everytime i go look at it different ones get completed or not

[tardy fern]

thats weird

[vernal jasper]

Anybody aware of solution for not unlocking SHD watch finish liberty island and kill keener story mode

[real creek]

Apparently there is a side mission you need to do.

[kind veldt]

huh for some reason i got a cosmedic item called stage left from getting the stage left rifle, thats odd

[real creek]

The SHD Watch will now be unlocked after completing a side mission upon reaching level 40. From the patch notes yesterday.

[vernal jasper]

Oh

[real creek]

100% have no idea where this side mission is tho.

[vernal jasper]

Thanks I'll try look for it, it used to be unlock right after keener before so was confused

[tiny oar]

i think its like any side mission

[real creek]

Yeah and it has a location on the map. Where dat?

[tiny oar]

its when you get stage left for the first time, you get the skin with it

[tiny oar]

no i mean, any side mission will do

[real creek]

You are talking to a man that has probably gotte 100 of them...

[tiny oar]

well, thats how it works when i drop any named

[real creek]

So what do you do if you completed all of the side missions before hitting 40?

[tiny oar]

you get another after lvl 40 normally, the rabbit hole

at dc

[real creek]

That's the manhunt thing.

[vernal jasper]

Yeah rabbit hole is manhunt part

[tiny oar]

oh well

then idk

[rain hedge]

just logged in to see heartbreaker being sold lol

[full zinc]

that would be kinda dumb at this point knowing you need a side mission to unlock shd watch
i think it would have been so much easier to just grant everyone wony instead of making a bunch of stupid changes to facilitate one end game... would just be a normal wony run to get you watch, and none of the bugs cropping up that have been associated with the change

[frosty wadi]

Wait, the heartbreaker battlepass set?

The all grey combat suit?

[real creek]

I haven't really thought about it too much tbh. On one hand you could say it was a half baked idea and on the other it's just poorly implemented. At this time the goal is to bring everyone to level 40 but you still have people with and without WONY right? That means they can't get DLC gear/weapons/exotics/skills right? One end game is just welcome to new level cap then? It invalidates anyone who was playing at level 30 and all their work right?

[rain hedge]

yes, it has an exclusive mask too this time

[frosty wadi]

Can you send a pic of the mask in fashion?

Heres hoping they rerelease the striker outfit

[rain hedge]

yeah hopefully

[kind veldt]

at the same time it makes DZ more active by not splitting player base and also gives them access to more game modes, just playing devils advocate for a bit

[real creek]

I mean DZs are small player servers anyway, they don't release numbers on player stats for this to be a truthful statement, just speculation.

[sour void]

Is the Heartbreaker armor available for Textiles?

[kind veldt]

dont believe so

it used to be season pass only

similar boat to striker outfit being season 1 only (so far)

[hybrid ore]

I don't recall any of the Season Pass "end" cosmetics being available outside of re-runs of that so far.
Unless the Splinter Cell outfit snuck in there without me noticing.

[frosty wadi]

Heartbreaker wasn’t an end cosmetic, it within the first 5 tiers

Like most other gear cosmetics until recently where we no longer get those

Its really dumb that they doubled the amount of cosmetic sets in the season passes, only to remove the one at the start entirely this season

[obsidian spoke]

what does expertise do?

[kind veldt]

dump mats, improve gear

more expertise more times you can repeat this process

its the slow endgame upgrade

[obsidian spoke]

dump mats?

[kind veldt]

materials

[obsidian spoke]

ah

[kind veldt]

if you are at expertise 1, you can upgrade one time, expertise 2 then two times

each upgrade costs mats

[hybrid ore]

@frosty wadi I didn't mean literally the end of the list, as that would also exclude the Splinter Cell outfit.

[glass gate]

wher can find actually gear sheet?

[fiery cloud]

Hey Rivens 👋

[brazen marlin]

Hm, I'm curious to see how many Poles play Division 2

[undone timber]

#td2-build-advice pins

[fiery cloud]

@kind veldt use cd to fill in everything you need

It'll go quick

[kind veldt]

i'm talking in broad terms of the expertise design/grind

dont plan to say to everyone who asks what the basic is to go do alt characters to farm SHD points

[real creek]

Do you even know what expertise is???

[undone timber]

thats the best way to do it actively

by the time you should consider expertise you'll be at a point where you can afford to do watch runs

[kind veldt]

yes? get proficiency to get points towards expertise, the bigger your expertise the more you can upgrade gear/skills by a %

did i switch the names around by mistake?

[real creek]

I'm just trolling you.

[obsidian spoke]

does difficulty matter or just the modifiers?

[undone timber]

harder= better loot on average

[kind veldt]

difficulty increases the base stats gear can roll, the modifiers that are the directives increase odds of gear dropping

you can get perfect god rolled items on normal by luck of course, but playing on harder difficulties increases the odd of getting a already pretty good item

[obsidian spoke]

thanks
im such a noob at this game

[full zinc]

So this basically puts everyone at 40, but also limits non dlc 40s to have less options while simultaneously making them compete with people that arent limited. Sounds unbalanced.

Also introducing bugs that cost team even more man hours while taking away the main incentive to buy the dlc... sounds like income loss.

Do non wony agents have access to the season reward tracks? If not more potential income loss.

Idk, I think it was a bad move tbh

[kind veldt]

i believe the non WONY agents have access to seasons and manhunt missions

[undone timber]

it makes more sense to have not done anything or grant everyone WONY

[kind veldt]

the exception being the lsat one we had because final mission was on NY, so any manhunt mission on NY they cant play it

[undone timber]

unified endgame is neat but evidently broken

[full zinc]

It's a lot cheaper

[undone timber]

like even if they gave everyone the expansion they're just gonna make more bank off season passes and things

[real creek]

Maybe they wait until the new DLC drops and then give everyone WONY?

[undone timber]

I believe the base game at least on Xbox comes bundled with the dlc now though

[real creek]

Wait isn't WONY part of the game now when you buy it? Like you can't buy a non wony version on the offical stores or something?

[undone timber]

yeah

[full zinc]

Itll be a year of bug fixes to get to pre-one end game

[real creek]

Yeah even if it wasn't bug riddled it's still kinda dumb.

[full zinc]

They could have even did some sort of announcement saying everyone getting the wony dlc and possibly bring people back.
There were probably plenty of level 30 that quit out of boredom.
Ppl love free stuff 💯

[real creek]

It's funny cause it probably would have saved them tons of man hours and on going bug fixes.

[brazen marlin]

It's Ubisoft we're talking about.
They have ONE goal in mind: MONEY

[real creek]

No clue if this was a choice from Ubi or massive. Ubi is just a publisher here.

Well I guess they do own massive but there are still seperations in place, it's just easy to point fingers while not knowing.

[brazen marlin]

They still seem to have a large clutch on the game

[obsidian spoke]

skill haste is how long a skill takes to charge up right?

[undone timber]

yes

well haste is just a ℅ decrease of cooldowns

[obsidian spoke]

and repair is like how fast said % goes right?

[brazen marlin]

It is how a skill will repair your armour

Like a certain drone repairs armour and a certain chem launcher

[full zinc]

Armor /sec increase afaik

[brazen marlin]

afaik?

[full zinc]

As far as I know

[brazen marlin]

Ah ty

[tiny oar]

i just got os, as a tank, twice in a row lol

sniper and suicide bombers really are strong

[undone timber]

even with 6 blues your shield is your lifeline

[tiny oar]

yeah

tbf thoses suicide bomber do huge damage to their own allies

like last time i melted a tank with their fire

they have status effect damage above ceiling lol

[burnt glen]

ive recently started playing TD1 again, i remember i was in this server so i was looking around but i don't see any TD1 channels, only TD2. what's the reason for that?

[warm minnow]

Pick the role for d1

[blazing sleet]

Should i grind for blue prints

[tiny oar]

yes

[short dragon]

Regarding the hunter masks, do those hunter able to hack droid and turrents like rogue agent? or do they just emp jam our ability from time to time?

[tiny oar]

they hack

[kind veldt]

both i think

[tiny oar]

they emp
they hack
they stab you in the back

[rain hedge]

i feel like legendaries in td2 are much easiers than td1

[tiny oar]

havent dont many elgendaries on td2, but in div1 they were not hard

i mean with classified gear you were super strong

[hybrid ore]

Agents in div2 are a lot stronger than back in div1.

[tiny oar]

especially d3