td2-general-chat

[undone timber]

Subjective but generally simple if your team has good damage

[maiden belfry]

Should I play story difficult first?

[undone timber]

The problem is running ninjabike means you don't get vigilance or anything

[neon wyvern]

Now put on a backpack talent

[undone timber]

Incursion doesn't have difficulty scaling

[maiden belfry]

So it's always story difficulty?

[neon wyvern]

Story difficulty is very hard here

[undone timber]

It's between heroic and legendary adds wise

[maiden belfry]

So it's only one difficulty and it's "story"

[kind veldt]

just like raid "normal" is means default not easy

incursion only has the default difficulty that is above heroic in terms of stats despite whatever name it has

[maiden belfry]

The in-game matchmaker for incrusion is greyed out, is that on purpose?

[undone timber]

No there should be matchmaking

[maiden belfry]

It looks like if I go from game menu, it's greyed out, but if I fast travel there and then matchmake via on location in-world UI, then there's matchmaking

[undone timber]

Careful random matchmaking though it can be rough especially for first timers

[lone valve]

Matchmake menu has never been available hover over the incursion itself

Don't ask me why I have no clue

[kind veldt]

it's just buggy for some reason

[neon wyvern]

It was there on release but now it isn't

[lone valve]

Nah incursion menu in the matchmaking section legit has never been available to me
Always greyed out

[neon wyvern]

Gotta go to the incursion mission itself to maychmake

[lone valve]

Yea
Which is weird and you know never addressed

Why is the option even there

[maiden belfry]

Bruh I'm still matchmaking Incurisn lmao

It's been 10 minutes

[lone valve]

It'll be like that

[neon wyvern]

people just lfg

incursion is super easy to understand

[maiden belfry]

I have, no one bites

[lone valve]

I have only played the incursion through in game matchmaking but yea by now it's slowed down

[dawn relic]

normal
hard
challenge
heroic
legendary
incursion

[lone valve]

Yea those are indeed game difficulties

[undone timber]

Most got their ouro who wanted one atp

So most who play it are just teaching and doing it for fun and flawlesses

[neon wyvern]

where story 🐦

[lone valve]

Legendary story difficulty

[serene elk]

I tell you what
This is a meme format
you just slap on anything that's considered difficult in the game below that

[neon wyvern]

legendary
legendary tidal

[small spear]

legendary summit

story

[lone valve]

Pfffft

Legendary kenly college

[serene elk]

speaking of legendary summit

got my Bighorn today

easiest exotic of my life 🫠

[small spear]

congrats, one of the best stash fillers

[serene elk]

1/300

[undone timber]

Ewwww

[maiden belfry]

Bighorn was my "get shit on" weapon in PvP before all the nerfs to shield and in Sync

[neon wyvern]

Legendary dark hours

[azure laurel]

Hey all, me and 2 friends recently bought the division 2 having never played the first one. Is it possible to jump in and start playing together from the get go? Or is there mandatory single player stuff we need to do?

[maiden belfry]

You can hide signature weapon now???? WOW

[small spear]

descent but it's all white tusk and they deploy via helicopter

[neon wyvern]

marauders in descent

[lone valve]

Yea looks less cluttered
Always have it hidden

[lone valve]

Can we skip them tho

[undone timber]

Stovepipe but Conley jammers

[small spear]

yeyeyeye you just reset the loop

[tropic pilot]

What stat does striker want? headshot damage?

or do they go crit as well

[undone timber]

Strikers is always crits

[serene elk]

well that depends

[small spear]

unless you know what you're doing, you run crit

[serene elk]

can you aim at heads really good?

[lone valve]

Unless you can hit heads extremely well constantly stick to crit strikers

[tropic pilot]

idk I find myself able to hit heads frequently

[serene elk]

I can't even hit enemies standing still so I run crit

[neon wyvern]

Just hit headshots with a crit build

[serene elk]

crit headshots yep

[neon wyvern]

There's no reason not to run crit

[serene elk]

why do we have a rainbow parrot

[neon wyvern]

good question

wheres my cleaner faction emoji

[serene elk]

cleaner faction at home

[tropic pilot]

why is this guide telling me to use contractors gloves

[serene elk]

damage to armor

[tropic pilot]

oh ok

[serene elk]

contractors gloves give guarnteed 8% damage to armor

[tropic pilot]

and thats better than like fenris ?

if I was using elmo

[serene elk]

well if you are going for dps build probably not
contractors slots in well with builds going for high burst imo

[small spear]

for striker? contractor is rarely good unless you use lmg... even then it's not something I'd recommend

[tropic pilot]

so just go 1 piece in whatever wep I'm using?

[serene elk]

weapon/crit is fine

[waxen rose]

hi guys, new player. gonna be completing the mainstory at sometime in the next 24 hours and wanted to know what to go do first after that to start building late game

[serene elk]

nothing until hitting level 40

[waxen rose]

is that with the expansion

or is that base

[serene elk]

😅 yeah most of the content is locked by expansion

you can still reasonably play at level 30

and there's probably things to do

[waxen rose]

thats fine i wanted to get but wanted to wait cause it auto boosts u to 30 and i wanted to play the story

[serene elk]

oh yeah you can do that

and all the world tiers

• NYC

after that its nice to look toward xp farming/gear building

[tropic pilot]

can you upgrade mods

[serene elk]

nada

[reef reef]

the DLC doesnt auto boost you to 30. It asks if you want to go directly to the expansion, which is the boost

[waxen rose]

thanks

[waxen rose]

gotcha

[hasty viper]

finally got btsu glove, oddly to optimize it i need cleaners tactical asessment

[tropic pilot]

whats the red aa12 I see everyone building stacks with

[reef reef]

lefty

[tropic pilot]

thank you sir

wheres this mf come from, targeted?

[serene elk]

shotgun targetted

it's the named ACS12

[reef reef]

yea- anytime you see something you want, just look it up in the spreadsheet

[tropic pilot]

well here goes the grind, need the coyote mask and that shotgun

bout to test out preliminary striker

[reef reef]

spreadsheet shows if it comes from DZ (or wherever else), if its a named item from the DZ you can farm countdown and buy named item caches, which can drop DZ exclusive items

[tropic pilot]

yeah I've been saving my countdown tokens

[serene elk]

chances are you might want exotic caches

getting a specific named item from named item caches is like searching for a needle in a haystack

[reef reef]

its better than having to run DZ for them

& once you get all the exotics you want, theres not much use going for more exotics unless you wanna get expertise levels up

[serene elk]

that's true 😭 your haystack becomes infested with sweaty pvp nerds with nothing better to do

[undone timber]

iirc fenris scales of base damage

[maiden belfry]

TFW still no transmorg for weapon mods

[tropic pilot]

well I cant tell if I did mroe damage than usual because it seems that this never wants to show the damage after a countdown

[undone timber]

There are DPS calculator spreadsheets somewhere

[tropic pilot]

also dont think I reached max stacks one time, so thats a problem

[undone timber]

Firing range doesn't track properly and group activities are unreliable

[ivory pebble]

Does the Carbon mask have to be done at 21:00 or can you do it anytime of the day? Every single video on YT have conveniently left this detail out.

[undone timber]

I know very specific masks can be done whenever but the rule of thumb is they have to be done between 2100 and 0500

[misty jungle]

what's the best time to play Incursions, feels no one playing Incursion

[reef reef]

Back about a month after the incursion launched, i got a group within 10 minutes on the community server. Its gonna be slower here (i'd assume) due to no VCs.

[dawn relic]

lol i seldom do countdown and damn it drops so many TL

[reef reef]

yeah, thats why every time someone asks "how do i farm fast" the answer is do countdown

[dawn relic]

one run and it filled 1/3 of my backpack

the sad thing is my PC got frozen before extraction

i need my pepe

[reef reef]

you keep the stuff you pick up so its better than nothing

[dawn relic]

@mod we need pepe emoji in this server

[reef reef]

no

[pliant ibex]

yo guys, is the game down rn?

[reef reef]

Theres been no announcement of a maintenance (usually on tuesdays anyways)

[dawn relic]

if u joined after countdown is started, join in midfight i mean

will u spawn in a weird place? like its not the one in the beginning

[reef reef]

idk if you can join after its started, if you just take a long time loading you'll just spawn in the start afaik

[dawn relic]

i just matched to a challenge one, and then i spawned right besides the generator enc?

welp never notice the name of it, but i can tell that definitely not where u started

and all other ppl are inside the lab

so i soloed that area

[reef reef]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dawn relic]

its hard bruh

enemies are tough 😦

[reef reef]

shoot them

[dawn relic]

if i had 10min i can solo an encounter tho

but its pointless

[reef reef]

then follow the other people

more ppl = more dmg
more dmg = faster encounters
faster encounters = faster countdown

[dawn relic]

yeah , but 5 ppl left lol

its getting quite common now, ppl keep leaving and u lose 1-2 ppl every fight

[broken solstice]

you're just ending up with bad groups

kinda hit or miss sometimes

[full zinc]

ive found a lot of people crash if lab is main objective. completing it is fine but i see ppl crash * when opening the final safe in that obj. crashed there myself a few times. i dont even bother trying to loot it anymore

[dawn relic]

joined a raid, everyone just go silent and doesnt talk much

until a chinese dude matched in and talk something in chinese

and suddenly all other 6 ppl execpt me starting to talk in chinese

this is a torture

[reef reef]

was it a discovery raid?

[dawn relic]

yes

[reef reef]

yeah just leave

[broken cloud]

learn chinese - problem solved 🤓

[reef reef]

discovery raids arent worth wasting time in

[dawn relic]

and i do notice something interesting

no offense to anyone

but i found out chinese players have their own server of division 2

which seems to be separated from the server were on (global server you know)

[reef reef]

the mechanics of the discovery versions of the raids arent nearly as hard so you'll just be learning the wrong things, and since the raid exotics arent in the discovery raids theres no reason to run them. Find a group here/in the community server and run them properly. Let whoever is leading your group know you are a learner and you'll be fine.

[dawn relic]

it does make me very curious of why didnt they play on that server instead

with that amount of players, they are totally fine if they played on their server

yes, china dedicated servers , just for chinese

[broken cloud]

their servers are probably limited as to what can be seen/showed, so they join other servers to get full experience - i guess

[reef reef]

Div2 only recently launched in CN. I doubt people will swap what version they play on. Just mute global chat and hope for the best if you dont wanna see messages in chinese.

[dawn relic]

oh i see

yeah just curious

[maiden belfry]

How could you say something so controversial yet so brave lol

[dawn relic]

its true

they do have their server

operating by local companies

and i already said i didnt mean to offense anyone

[tacit crescent]

Just looked at their impending update for Project Resolve... not a single damn patch note about the Specialization Revamp talked about in the Int Annex back on October 28, 2021... That's the ENTIRE THING I'm waiting for... I guess it's just not going to happen 😦 did it just straight up get canceled?

[dawn relic]

anyway lets stop this

end of conversation

[reef reef]

Pretty sure one of the devs said it got canned awhile back, like 1yr+. Sorry.

[tacit crescent]

😢

[reef reef]

Think of it this way. You've spent a few thousand hours in a game that has been an official translation into your language, but just now a company has made an official server of the game specifically for your language. Would you drop all your progress and restart on that server? Yeah, nah, i wouldnt either.

[dawn relic]

aight then

again, i only know their server exists, i didnt know how long its been there

and i dont mean to offense anyone if this topic gone sensitive

[halcyon radish]

other than people from China, Taiwanese and Malaysian Chinese also use Chinese language, and there's lot of reason they don't tied to D2 China version

[tender wave]

From what I've heard the new Chinese version is free to play but very much pay to win, so I could imagine it being less popular on that basis alone

[dawn relic]

sad

[dawn relic]

so u mean there gonna be some banners for exotics

[tender wave]

They actually have some items including exotics and apparel that isn't in our game

[dawn relic]

exotic - 0.2%
high-end - 2%
gear set - 5%

[reef reef]

I've seen 2 or 3 apparel events, and atleast 1 exotic that we dont have. I'm not sure they've gotten all the content we have either.

[dawn relic]

wow they have their own exotics

[reef reef]

Wasp, iirc. Also their game is much more open, build wise. I'm not sure on the specifics but they still have stuff like Damage to Elites

[dawn relic]

so older version?

[reef reef]

From the limited knowledge i know, it still has Warlords of New York (but not called that, as all real american places have been renamed)

[dawn relic]

censorship

[reef reef]

Its just that the build system (and items in general) is changed a good bit

[azure lintel]

Is there any other ways besides countdown and weekly challenges to get exotics? The grind late game kills me off of it unlike most people it seems

[reef reef]

Countdown and the weekly challenges are pretty much the easiest way, otherwise just get lucky and have an exotic drop for you from an enemy

[reef reef]

from the limited info on EN speaking forums, the game is actually a good bit different. Atleast one new exotic, legendary raid, new summit encounters. But the game is way more pay to win, with weapons starting at level 1 (even if your character is 40) and you have to spend resources to level it up, and you have to level up the stats too (?)

[copper shoal]

bounties often give exotics

[loud bay]

My my

[random quest]

It's kinda interesting, that they decided to go that route, but on the other hand, throw a dart at a random asian game and chances are, it's gonna be free to play with gacha. Even more interesting however is how the new proposed regulations for in-game spending in china could affect their version of Div2

[dawn relic]

anyone wants pheonix down key? im not into apparel so i can gift all my keys

[maiden belfry]

You can give keys away now??

[random quest]

iirc, you don't give away the keys you have, you buy keys for other people (read that earlier in this chat)

[full zinc]

You can only gift keys that you purchase with premium credits at the time of purchase.
I think 100 premium per. You're stuck with accumulated keys

[somber hedge]

I bought the game through steam, is there no way to pay for premium currency/etc with your steam wallet?

[kind veldt]

i think you can

R6 lets you do that at least

[broken solstice]

i tried to gift my unusable keys to a friend and i just ended up spending 120 premium credits

[undone timber]

Yikes

[flint cobalt]

Managed to do a warlord run & allocated my SHD points into materials & bought the shared blueprints but now my materials are missing, any advice?

[full zinc]

Probably direct through ubi. Iirc you have to link your steam account anyways

Or maybe in game

[somber hedge]

i figured it out, the ingame shop redirects to the ubisoft store but on checkout it still says payment method: steam. So it seems to work

[full zinc]

Oh nice 👍

[somber hedge]

Those blinking LED boots are just an amazing cosmetic item btw. Big childhood nostalgia

[dawn relic]

sad

[dawn relic]

SHD calibration is a must have

and you need tons of that

i put all 50 scavenge points on SHD calibration

[maiden belfry]

They finally allow you to skip snowdrop and AMD intro, THANK GOD

[tulip moon]

Let us replay Side Missions!

[fluid meadow]

I don't mind them being fast travel points

[tulip moon]

Doyers Street is coolest mission in the game. but you play it once on story mode, sad.

[full zinc]

There should be 2 shared blueprints to buy

If you did purchase both did you happen to go into expertise bench and do any proficiency material donations?

[lone valve]

Guardians is growing on me ngl

[undone timber]

I hate how every other add is just completely impervious to damage

If there was a reduction it'd be bearable

[lone valve]

You need to bumrush the guardian and then with the buff you can kill anyone anyways

[lone valve]

That's how it's gonna be when its reworked iirc

[undone timber]

Half the time they're hiding in the back the sissies

[undone timber]

ayyyy

[full zinc]

They cant hide from the mortar most of the time 😅

[lone valve]

I mean tbh In the open world you can easily spot where the guardian is and position /rush him and kill him
And then it's just keep the buff going

[shy holly]

Are there any "Guardian-Event" Day 5&6 Challenges?
If so, where does one find them 😕

[inner harness]

No event has day 5 and 6 challenges

It's only ever gotten to 4

[shy holly]

Explains alot, was just confused about the "Day 6" pop up 😆 ty

[maiden estuary]

anyone else have a bug where you cannot switch specialization. Says that you have skills on CD or you are not in safe area

[inner harness]

Not a bug if you have a specialisation specific skill on

[maiden estuary]

crusader shields and scanner pulse? 😮

[inner harness]

So then no

It is a bug

[maiden estuary]

have restarted client etc

[full zinc]

Crusader shield hasnt been fully healing in some instances even when stowed. Itll show a sliver of lost health. If that's the issue then going to safehouse let's you swap it

[tropic pilot]

when I'm going for crusader shield what am I looking for on it?

[hybrid ore]

Skill mods rarely matter all that much outside of increasing an ammo count for using it.
Just add something that makes the numbers more green.

[tropic pilot]

ok, I am watching a guide this guys shield has 8m hp but I still wanna do dps with striker so I need a hybrid build of sorts? or how do I just get more hp on my shield

apparently I'm looking for "skill tier"

[hybrid ore]

If it's a youtuber, there's a 90% chance they've said something wrong.

[tropic pilot]

fair enough whats like a good shield hp to have while running a striker build?

[hybrid ore]

Crusader if Gunner, Firewall Shield if Firewall.

Bulwark locks you to a pistol only, and Deflector sucks.

[tropic pilot]

so drone and shield?

is ok?

[hybrid ore]

Sure that'll work. I prefer the Banshee Pulse (gunner skill), but more protecton is never bad.

[maiden estuary]

even in safehouse doenst work

[dawn relic]

hey guys, anna or isac

[small spear]

either blue or yellow cores will give tiers to your shield which is the main scalar for health

[tropic pilot]

lefty is an ass to get

seen every named wep probably 5 times over before I've seen that once

[small spear]

you won't regret getting it

[hybrid ore]

TL:[shotguns] countdown, chall or above.
like all the rest.

[tropic pilot]

I am doing that I am simply saying its difficult

but thats the name of the game

how fast does it get to max stacks?

[small spear]

striker?

[tropic pilot]

ye

[small spear]

200 stacks or 100?

[tropic pilot]

300

[small spear]

there's no 300

but 200 stacks takes 24 rounds nonstop which is fastest with rock and roll

lefty isn't too far behind tho

lefty can definitely stack 100 easily

[hybrid ore]

You can actually reach max stacks without the Rock+Roll, since each "shot" from an acs12 counts as 8 stacks.

[small spear]

with lefty you have to reload

[hybrid ore]

I'm talking about the base acs-12, which IMO is a tiny bit better than R+roll since it can have an actual Talent.

[small spear]

i'm not saying rock and roll is necessary or anything with that

[hybrid ore]

If you hit all your pellets per shot with an acs, you would hit 160 stacks before a reload from full.

you wouldn't need to reload with Lefty, since it also has 20 rounds. Unless it fires less than 8 per?

[small spear]

you have to account for decay as well

[hybrid ore]

Although arguably, you don't really need-need to hit max stacks with your shotgun, just get it close and your main gun can finish it off.

and then there's the Ouro to consider, which doesn't need a stack building gun at all.

[small spear]

i don't bother calcing it out but 24 rounds is the minimum you need to shoot with rock and roll if you want to get 200 as fast as possible

ouro is still considerably slower imo, but once you get stacks going it will maintain easily

1600+ rpm versus the "2400" effective rpm of acs

[hybrid ore]

It's actually 25 to get to 200 at minimum, but that was remarkably close.

Although if you factor in missed shots, it's more like 30+

[random quest]

Guardian is giga love hate, because sometimes you're just shit out of luck with who the guardian is and your buff runs out. The worst is when the boss is picked as guardian and you get rushers. But it's great too, been loving it aswell!

[tropic pilot]

woohoo, lefty finally lol

whats better mag size rate of fire or swap speed?

[dawn relic]

imagine if summit becomes base of operation

[random quest]

How's darkzone these days? I always remember turning away from it because there would be some sweaty rogue with a godtier build I just couldn't compete with.

[white hazel]

I just got an "Anomalous Mission", have they always been in the game? I don't remember ever seeing one.

A light yellow question mark on the map

[tender wave]

it's a one-off

[white hazel]

oh, no wonder I didn't remember it :D

[tropic pilot]

exotic mask drop, its vile 🫠

[errant ember]

how can i get St elmo Engine nowadays? 🤔

[fickle moat]

Summit AR loot

[errant ember]

does it drop in countdown? 🤔

[fickle moat]

Yeah I think so

I also got it in the open world once

[errant ember]

prolly got dropped from the AR loot pool

[hybrid ore]

It did not.

Remember that there's only a chance to get TL to spawn at all, and when it does you've got a very small chance to get the one you want, even smaller because it's an Exotic on top of that.

[cloud ember]

yeah st elmos does since i got mine from doing countdown today. always the asian servers that give the best luck

[errant ember]

so... TLDR: It drop from loot pool but just really low chance

[hybrid ore]

Bingo.

Your overall best chance is to run Countdown on chall/heroic, and buy Exotic Caches every 2-3 rounds from the CD Vendor.

[errant ember]

what about descent? Its basically the d1 version of survival mode thingy?

[small spear]

roguelite mode

[molten spire]

every now and then you get oneshot through walls

although the cheaters today seem to think that three shots through walls is somehow more believable

[astral jacinth]

What’s the best use of Global even points now?

[molten spire]

"number go up" screenshots

[hybrid ore]

Which ever cache has a resource that you need and is hard to obtain for your playstyle.

[tired granite]

everytime i clicked random heroic mission... I cringe when i see white oak

[lethal halo]

I hate going to camp white oak..

Anyone else upset when Faye Lau turned rouge or was it just me

[frozen meadow]

TU 19.4 PATCH NOTES

-Added more foxes

[frozen meadow]

i know right i didnt think she was a chameleon

[lime fulcrum]

cant get enough of guardian event..

[green charm]

i get some delta in these minutes i check my connection and computer is ok

is ok for all?

[flint cobalt]

I think it's because I used the donate all materials option on expertise. Might have donated everything instead of my printer filaments

[arctic ivy]

Well since the feedback channel seems to be closed I'll leave this here. Rifles really DO need a buff/rework accross the board. The M1A should have a 20rd mag since that is what's modeled. The M16A2 needs to have the recoil cut down severely and the damage buffed. The gun is so anemic in it's current state. Other rifles just need some smaller tweaks to keep up with the current meta of the game. Some new rifle specific talents would be awesome too.

[vocal citrus]

when next sales on The Division 2 DLC?

on Steam

[full zinc]

Kinda common to do for sure

[full zinc]

Add it to your wishlist on steam and you'll get a notification when it's on sale

[kind veldt]

not sure if you are aware but the ydid buff the damage of the M16 by 30% i think on the last PTS

the comment was about mostly handling

[cobalt fossil]

When are they actually gonna fix the game crashes can't believe that they fixed the issue back in division 1 and yet theres a crashing problem on division 2 i need jesus

[kind veldt]

do you use controllers?

[pine pond]

Any idea how to fix the no brightness bug?

[prisma beacon]

omg its finally over, i can take AR off targeted, after 283 shd lvls i got my st elmos

[pure swan]

What shd level is recommended for the raids?

[broken solstice]

the only thing about shd that matters about shd is being 1000. getting up higher than that doesnt really do anything (other than incremental health increases). but you can be SHD 0 if you have the skill

[kind veldt]

build and knowlodge is more important

[broken solstice]

knowledge is a part of skill. and yeah build is very important

[astral jacinth]

Why didn’t the global event guardian description explain that enemies leave behind explosions after death

[lost tendon]

Guys quick question, shall i get the game pass or the recruiter outfit? the armor look goood

[azure lintel]

Good evening everyone

[prisma beacon]

GOOD EVENING AGENT

[prisma beacon]

dont leave your wallet in my hands... why not both?

[errant ember]

1 day grind and i St elmo

[lyric ferry]

Since I think Year 5 Season 1 they added the new gear sets that have two bonuses for the first 2 pieces....does that mean they will maybe rework the older ones and give them 2 bonuses as well on the first 2 pieces ?

[lost tendon]

Smart

[kind veldt]

only osme of them really need it, most of gun focused sets outside of snipers have 2 weapons on them, SMG/SG, AR/LMG and it was the same way in the first game

[lyric ferry]

True true it's was the same in the first one....I could see Striker getting like a reload speed bonus on two pieces tho....I mean yeah it does have weapon handling but who knows haha

[prisma beacon]

shd 283 i got mine

[errant ember]

if you count shd then i got mine at shd 30

[prisma beacon]

its not that i hate you, i just envy your luck, ive had mine for about an hour and its a brainless weapon, zero skill required, its great i love it

[errant ember]

L indeed

[prisma beacon]

that being said my first exotic was momento and it has carried me entirely

i think that ate all my drop luck

[small spear]

i mean weapon handling includes reload speed bonus so it's straight up bettee

[lyric ferry]

Yeah that's why I put it there haha

I would say 5% Damage to armor would be my idea for a 2nd bonus

Just like the one in D1 had

[small spear]

i mean... you'd be trading off the current bonuses that striker currently has, or it'd be too good

if you trade off rpm for dta it would just be a worse set

[lyric ferry]

I wasn't talking about getting rid of it...I was talking about since they added the new gear sets in Y5S1 they added two bonuses for two pieces instead of one

[small spear]

ah okay got what you mean now

[lyric ferry]

So I was think that some gear sets can benefit from it too

[small spear]

though, two separate bonuses don't mean they'd be stronger than one bonus tbh

it's just up to their design, but i'd agree 2 and 3p hotshot are too good

[lyric ferry]

Yeah that was I was about to say haha

[small spear]

but then you have exuro and i don't want to talk about exuro...

[lyric ferry]

Haha

Another idea for Striker would be 10% AoK

[kind veldt]

i mean i think they should replace status effect from OD

[neon wyvern]

imagine striker buff

[lyric ferry]

True on that

The same with 30% Ammo on True Patriot xD

[lone valve]

Make the fire turret how it is on exuro it's base
But balance by giving it less area of effect

We did not need a whole set to just change the turret

[small spear]

rigger backpack:

[lone valve]

No idea I have never cared to use rigger

[small spear]

need the entire 4p set AND the backpack talent to be able to cancel skills and get no cooldown

[lone valve]

Oh

[small spear]

but it's so fun

[lyric ferry]

I think I never used Rigger once xD

[small spear]

i know how underwhelming it is but it's fun

[lone valve]

I don't think I've ever used a turret drone build ever ngl

Seems boring to me

[small spear]

i use turret decoy with it

idea is being an aggro support

[kind veldt]

you could probably spam few shots of sniper turret and reset for infinite ammo i think

[lyric ferry]

i called my Turret Drone build loadout Lazy Build xD

[small spear]

you already can do it without rigger

[kind veldt]

anyhow i think they could make some sets have 2 bonus if one of them is smaller than usual

[small spear]

sniper turret cooldown is based on the remaining duration rather than charges used

[lyric ferry]

I agree here

[kind veldt]

case in point adding something like 250% weapon swap speed alongside something else like armor damage% could make some interesting stuff

make an unusual joke stat useful that way

[small spear]

(too bad swap speed doesn't work as a stat)

[lone valve]

Interesting thing I noticed about the healing trap
It's CD is based on how many traps are left I think

[lyric ferry]

Swap Speed PTSD

[small spear]

man, project resolve doesn't even fix swap speed

[kind veldt]

well it was mostly an example of something else that could be taken in account

[small spear]

that just saddens me

yeah i know. it would combo nicely with gunslinger as well

[kind veldt]

slap some signature ammo total capacity on tip of the spear

[lone valve]

Doesn't unwavering and it's perfect version buff swap speed
Don't think I've ever noticed the swap speed tbh

[kind veldt]

oops brain go bad

[lyric ferry]

Woah that's actually a good idea

[small spear]

weapon handling

but then you lose the buff on swap because it's a weapon talent kek

[lone valve]

They ran out of gear buffs to do
Wait for the end of the year when they'll buff rigger but it won't actually do anything

[small spear]

just take the backpack talent and put it on the 4p and i'll be happy

don't make me waste backpack talent

[kind veldt]

tips need a rework

interesting stuff that could happen but i doubt it will

[lone valve]

Lol good luck waiting

[kind veldt]

skill/explosive based gear set

support gear set focused on having all granades available and giving different buffs depending on which one hit an enemy

[lone valve]

They can barely admit that most of their brand bonus buffs are meaningless nvm going back to changing tips

[lyric ferry]

Does anyone remember the old BTSU Gloves with cluster seeker mines ? that stuff was hard

[kind veldt]

healer/support gear set that gives bonus armor instead of healing

[neon wyvern]

that's called tank

[lone valve]

No build in this game is a real tank until they add threat to the shield /or foundry

[lyric ferry]

Wish threat was a bonus on a tank gear set

[lone valve]

The frustrating thing is threat is already a thing
It exists in the decoy

[lyric ferry]

Just have to put it on the shield then huh

[kind veldt]

healer suffers to a small degree from this kind of issue

you cna heal pretty fast

wont solve the fact that someone with a pure red build will last 3 shots only

thats why i think an healer that can overheal (bonus armor) could be interesting

we have some hybrid concepts heartbreaker and system corruption

both of those are focused on just the user

this one would just take part of you healing and transfomr into a smaller obnus armor if person already has max armor

[lyric ferry]

Well see what they will do with all of this

Who knows haha

[kind veldt]

slap a chest piece that improves a conversion rate, and backpack that increases amount of bonus armor you can give someone

there you go, a healer that gives bonus armor

[lyric ferry]

Like overheal in TD1 ?

[kind veldt]

well we have bonus armor that is more relevant

[lyric ferry]

Yeah

[kind veldt]

idea just came when friend of mine was talking about FF14 how they split their healers in two categories

[lyric ferry]

I guess to closets right now in the game is using Tardigrade

[kind veldt]

healers and shielders

[lyric ferry]

Like a Tardigrade healer build until they bring out something else

[tropic breach]

where can i see my exp from helping people? the with the numbers with wings.

[lyric ferry]

Open your big map and it should be on the top left

Next to like projects tap and so on

Where it says SHD

[tropic breach]

awesome thank you, does it work or do i gain exp or level from answering calls through the matchmaking random call back up?

[lyric ferry]

I think the players you help have to endorse you

And then you get XP to your Sheperd Rank

[tropic breach]

Is it going to pop up from them after the mission?

[lyric ferry]

They have to decide to give it to you as far as I know

Me myself I never did any of the answer call things tbh....I would probably only do it for the commendations xD

[kind veldt]

you get a second bar when answering calls

when that bar fills up you get an endorsement

and game asks the guy who asked for the help if he wants to endorse you as well

[lyric ferry]

Yeah you know more than me about this haha

Never did it

[kind veldt]

you get new level in shepard every couple of endorsements

[tropic breach]

thank you, am just bored and tryna new things apprecaite it

[lyric ferry]

That grind to 25 is crazy tho I heard

[kind veldt]

small problems iwht the system is that sometiems that person is finished before the XP bar is filled to get you the endorsement

and that if it happens during a gundight the person probably will forget to give you the second endorsement

[tropic breach]

does it only work for the random call for back up or does it also work if I choose the random main mission matchmake?

[kind veldt]

has to be call for back up

[tropic breach]

how are peoples shepherd level up by 45 if it is that hard?

[kind veldt]

it's not hard

mostly time consuming AND sometimes that can happen

[tropic breach]

does he have to tell the person to endorse him? lol

[lyric ferry]

Isn't mostly RNG based as well if they decide to give it to you or not ?

[kind veldt]

#td2-general-chat message

[tropic breach]

I mean yes, but for people with hihg level shepherd they prolly had to tell every person to endorse them? since others forget to do it while on mission lol

like begging 😆

[lyric ferry]

It worth it to get that cool arm patch at 25 tho

And the commendations

I'm still 20 short of all commendations done

[bronze mulch]

Division 2. Conflict is basically just black light retribution same clan on all day

[kind veldt]

man i miss that game

[lyric ferry]

Okay I can't be only one who saw that with S3 Phase 1 they added the option to change the blinding effect to going black instead of white

or was that a bug ?

Maybe it was just a bug on Phase 1 but I could be wrong

[maiden belfry]

Just read the project resolve changes to third brandset bonus, even though subject to change, those changes are delicious, you rarely see people running 3pc something (besides providence and empress, I guess), this will finally spice things up a lot

[kind veldt]

problem comes that while some are nice

mostly suffer from the fact that whatever stat you have is just not competitive

you need to try really hard to unglue people from crits

[maiden belfry]

And also moving people into skill builds

No one run skill builds anymore

[kind veldt]

skills builds are mostly fine in running regular game (outside of this manhunt again)

[maiden belfry]

My problem with skill build is just that it's too slow, compared to a say Striker dps build, you take more time to clear a room, and also skill builds are not viable in countdown and that's all everyone plays these days

[kind veldt]

more that giving something like 30% stability isnt going to make jonny mcmeta stop only running crit chance, damage and damage to out of cover

[undone timber]

In specialised content theyre used a lot

In regular content too

Ep, Fi, etc

[maiden belfry]

What do you mean specialised content?

[undone timber]

Iron horse dark hours and PL namely

[small spear]

i think it's better to call them support builds than skill builds

[undone timber]

Oxis and stuff

[small spear]

cuz skill build is almost always understood as turret/drone variant

[kind veldt]

i consider main mission matchmaking and open world probably the regular game modes

[maiden belfry]

When I say skill build, I am mainly referring to turret + drone, yes

[kind veldt]

they are great for solo also

so popular for summit

[undone timber]

Turret + drone is comfortable but slow so people opt just to slam everything with strikers

[small spear]

also claire isn't exactly new, she's already been here for a while just catching up with new stuff if there's any

[maiden belfry]

Who else wants to build an armour regen build for project resolve, 3pc Gila, 2pc Golan, 1pc Belstone

[kind veldt]

well topic was originally about the buffing of the brand bonus

skill definetly were the winners here

almost nothing chnaged for most red builds

regen definetly look more enticing

[maiden belfry]

Yes, lot of yellow brands are getting huge buffs, status effects seems to be very enticing

Anything to make people stop wearing a Striker build is a plus for me

[undone timber]

Its easy to put together and extremely effective it’d be really hard to pull people away

And I imagine people wouldnt be happy with nerfs cuz muh dps

[maiden belfry]

Really? There are red nerfs in project resolve?

[undone timber]

Nah as in if it ever got nerfed

I dont see it getting power creeped and nerfs would get people mad

[kind veldt]

as they said only way to make people jump boat would be to make something better than crits, thats not happening and they have no reason to do that much

[lone valve]

Red nerfs lol
If anything they made obliterate better

[halcyon radish]

I thinking of pair it with backfire, alternative to striker

[neon wyvern]

it just needs to lose stacks faster in the beginning tbh

[opal radish]

Buff the NPCs

[faint valve]

man someone can help me with ouroboros

[noble ember]

How to level fast sorry newbie here

[undone timber]

That or they could probably re implement dropping stacks when you miss

[neon wyvern]

That's how to kill striker

not balance it

[maiden belfry]

Eww, SMG, :P

[opal radish]

Definitely nope It was how it is div 1.

[neon wyvern]

so?

[opal radish]

Skill issue

[neon wyvern]

I bet they had some dumb stuff at 6pc that made it mean nothing

[opal radish]

6pcs gave you healing

[maiden belfry]

Every time I join a countdown lobby, someone else gets kicked, why are lobby leader doing this

[neon wyvern]

They had a turret drone skill build

[kind veldt]

classified striker had the damage buff work with punishing misses, but the healing stacks were just lost over time not with misses

[ivory pebble]

This is me thinking out loud and my results may vary from yours. But here are some thoughts to build on top of "Resolve" if the devs truly want to bring up the level of the game.

1. Bring back the BETA Version +30 round AR Magazine Mod
2. Optimization Table resources rework
3. Wear hoods UP or DOWN (like Breakpoint allowed bloused or non bloused pants)
4. Buff Solo Loot Drop Rate
5. Ability to use SMG's with the Large Shield like in Div 1
6. Add the Adrestia MMR to Recalibration Table. Example. I got one with Determined but all attributes are below 50%. I'd like to use/try it in game for fun.
7. Chameleon Exotic AR +10 Mag Capacity. This is a fun weapon, but when you can have a 70rd Tickle Me Elmo...
8. Enforcer Shotgun (From WONY Pre Order) Add 3rd Attribute and put into the loot pool (or Descent Blueprints)
9. MP7 Add magazine capacity or allow magazine mods. Strange why this is even a thing with a fixed mag.
10. Bullet King Exotic Increase weapon damage by 5 or 10%? (not great with numbers, but if you want more players to use this, then DPS needs to be increased.
11. FAMAS, DARE and ? Ability to add the Tactical Link Laser from Technician
12. LMG's Increase rpm's for every model except Negev and MG5 series. At least 5% respectively.
13. Crafting Station Increase the rolls on all of the attributes. I have rolled one item 5/6 times in a row and only one time or two did one of the attributes roll over 50/60%. For a level 4 table and using my resources, this needs to be better, no? I get it, bad rng means keep the player involved in the game, yadda yadda.

These are my personal thoughts on how the game could improve and keep me interested at the very least. Like medical commercials on tv, Results May Vary. lol

Oh and could we pretty please get the LVOA and Lightweight M4 back as Assault Rifles? PLEASE

[neon wyvern]

How to power creep the game tutorial:

Cmon bulwark shield SMGs and 30 round mag attachment?

I like how people can have those insane stuff in but be like "bullet king +5% weapon damage buff? 🥺 "

[ivory pebble]

Ok, those are YOUR thoughts and I respect them. I like to have fun after 5 years of a game that I gnashed my teeth to get to where I am now. If I want to see the BK get a 50% damage increase, then it won't effect anyone in PVE. If you are a PVP player, ask Doc for a script of Copium

[kind veldt]

PVP suffers from shields being very tanky in there, this would make matters worse in that aspect, i think magazine size is also a big problem that shouldnt incentivize to turn every weapon into a proto LMG

[neon wyvern]

???

your first instinct to a disagreement is "pvp player cope lol"

Like I pvp alot in the first place

[kind veldt]

MP7 is an odd case for extended maga because we are already using them

Kida how like P90 doesnt have an real life extended mag to make one in game

The ones that break the rules are exotic versions

[neon wyvern]

Giant buffs will effect all pve players by making the hardest content piss easy

bad philosophy

[kind veldt]

Allowing SMGs with bulkwark also takes away tge point of crusader shield tradeoff

[neon wyvern]

Then people will start complaining once they buff npcs to match. And weapons/armor pieces that are left behind will be unusable

[ivory pebble]

Yea, that sucks. This is where the differences are night and day and the devs had a problem with balancing both zones from day one. But explain to me how if a certain meta works in the DZ, you wouldn't want to use the same thing? That never made sense to me that there would be an advantage in the DZ and guys would complain instead of use it. But then again, I avoid it because of toxic people who inject themselves into someones suggestions with being nasty. Not you, the other guy. Again, this is why if you have nothing positive to say, or if you can't be an adult, just avoid responding.

[ivory pebble]

This has already been done. Look at all of the new weapons and gear. The game is on life support. Why do you think they are implementing Project Resolve? Knock Knock

[ivory pebble]

40 rounds on MP7 is fixed.

[kind veldt]

They are releasing an expansion next year tho

[kind veldt]

Well yeah because 40 is the real life extended mag, kinda like there isnt a extended mag for tommy gun because it is using already an extended mag

[neon wyvern]

if the games on life support then those few insane changes will pull the plug

[ivory pebble]

No kidding. They are keeping the game alive until Div3................................... Do I need to spell this out? They will keep players around until the new one drops. Keep dropping 1600 premuim credit skins for the mules

[neon wyvern]

there's no resolving

[ivory pebble]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. OK.

[ivory pebble]

Are we using this logic? Then I want my Surefire mag as used in the game to be 60 rounds. LOL

[kind veldt]

Yes we are using that logic because FAMAS literally didnt have an extended mag until devs could find real life model for it to add to the game, not joking

[maiden belfry]

Great list but few hot takes I'm sure some people won't be pleased with

[neon wyvern]

Not the first time I've seen div2 players make the most over the top buffs. And then defend it by saying "its a pve game bro"

[kind veldt]

Just for the sake of clarity i really dont think most of those are really good ideas that feel like the idea of "if everything is busted nothing is" specially when some of things are being focused on PVP

[ivory pebble]

You are the PERFECT example of someone who makes the gaming community look like sniveling shildren. Gatekeeping a game that other people besides you play.

[neon wyvern]

I'm just harshly* disagreeing with your suggestions

Thats a funny way to get mad at it

[ivory pebble]

Thanks. Amazing how some people have class and others get worked up like they had their sucker ripped out of their hand.

[ivory pebble]

No, what you did was stomp on it like Golum with fear of his precious being stolen

[ivory pebble]

That is your opinion. Some of us, well actually the MAJORITY of Div2 do not play PVP. It is the LOUD minority that make it seem like pvp is popular

[ivory pebble]

10 extra rounds for an AR = Over The Top.. LOL

[kind veldt]

I also dont play PVP but devs want to make a more PVP focused update cause pretty much all updates are PVE focused

[neon wyvern]

There's 0 reason to add that in other then making pve easier. Ars as a whole don't need help

Unless there was a real downside to choosing it over the other mags. But I assume there wasn't a downside to begin with

[maiden belfry]

The majority of players drop the game before level 40 in my opinion, my clan is open to anyone and newbie players join and most of them, I'd say about 40% just never came back before endgame

[neon wyvern]

no dlc be like

[kind veldt]

Doesnt mean i want to curbstomp everything ignoring PVP, devs want to improve it, good for them

[ivory pebble]

I'm okay with that. But remember that everytime these devs touch pvp, it has a side effect on pve. Eagle Bearer was OP to the pvp crew, so it got nerfed in both areas. Shields were OP so they made disorient a thing in both areas.

[neon wyvern]

Shields are still op

just not in pvp

[ivory pebble]

Yea, I noticed this as well. Our clan was top 3 in conflict, etc the 1st year. When they delayed the 2nd raid and made wony a paid dlc, even though it fell within year one, 70% stopped playing

[kind veldt]

I meant the hotswitch of loudouts has bern a hot topic because of that. Just saying your approach is very much showing middle finger to PVP in one of the few PVP focused updates

[ivory pebble]

Shields are OP? I have mine a lvl 20 and a purple bar can break it in less than a mag. lol

[neon wyvern]

Yeah that's gonna happen when you spec 6 reds into ur build. But even at 6 red it's a significant buffer window. No other skill for a dps build really compares to that utility

[ivory pebble]

Would it have made ppl feel better if I had said PVE only? Because I don't play pvp, I had ZERO intention of my suggestions being intended for that

[kind veldt]

Weapon damage, magazine size, the shield with SMG things dont appear to be things you can just turn on/off in PVP

[ivory pebble]

Who face tanks people with a crusader? Shields are meant as a secondary to buy time. Again, shields are far from OP when using a dps build

[ivory pebble]

hahaa. AGAIN, it is not my issue to worry about pvp. This game should have kept the DZ the same as in NY. But they didn't and I can care less about it.

[fluid meadow]

So don't give them anything?

People still play pvp even a "minority"

Doesn't mean they would be disregarded

[kind veldt]

...you know this is a PVP focused update right?

[ivory pebble]

Holy crap. If you tards don't stop with this putting words in my mouth. MY POST WAS MEANT FOR PVE ONLY!!!!!!!!!! Get that through your insecure heads

[neon wyvern]

And they are still bad for pve

[maiden belfry]

Yall getting too worked up over a updates wishlist, it's just a wishlist

[ivory pebble]

Hahaa. Really? I must have mistakenly seen Descent changes and other NON pvp.. hmmmmmmmmmmm

[kind veldt]

I said focused not exclusive

[fluid meadow]

Pvp "focused" doesn't mean pvp only

[undone timber]

Yeah that buffer window is why its op

[kind veldt]

Now you are putting words in my mouth, dont accuse others of doing that then do the same

[ivory pebble]

then why even mention it? See, this is why depends exist

[kind veldt]

Because you ate touching in things that affect PVP drasticly

[maiden belfry]

Did they nerf half shields? Before I love running half shield and DPS and I can tank all heroic content, now couple of yellows can down my half shield after a few seconds

[ivory pebble]

IN PVP. Cry harder. Or to use the words of toxic players, git gud

[neon wyvern]

Put pfe mods on

[maiden belfry]

And sacrifice CHD? Hell naw :D

[ivory pebble]

Yup. It is recorded and seen over and over with streamers. Burst damage is insane in pve

[neon wyvern]

Pfe mods reduce way less damage then blue cores

[ivory pebble]

How does that help against reds and purples

[fluid meadow]

Limit the amount of exposure

[undone timber]

That’d why you prioritise reds and purples lmao

[neon wyvern]

Only non elite threat is purple minitanks and dogs

The others die in 0.2 seconds

[ivory pebble]

everyone with their pro gaming tips as if everyone plays the way they do. lol

[fluid meadow]

It's called strategy

[undone timber]

How do you run your build

[fluid meadow]

Others might find it helpful?

[ivory pebble]

the way I want to and depending on the mission, etc

[undone timber]

No but like generally

[ivory pebble]

I don't blurt out advice in forums unless asked when a new player needs help. then I offer a couple of suggestions and tell them everyone plays differently, so try and see if you like my suggestions. simple. I don't tell people they are doing stuff wrong

[ivory pebble]

others call it weird flexing

[undone timber]

I ask cuz generally everyone runs the same shit anyway cuz its effective

[fluid meadow]

You're assuming the purpose of my message?

[ivory pebble]

Yes, I am actually

[fluid meadow]

Literally face 1 enemy at a time or so

How would someone flex that

[fluid meadow]

Cqb smg build with shield

[neon wyvern]

No matter how hard I try I'm always sucked back into a striker that has 3 pfe mods and a varying amount of blue cores (1-4)

[fluid meadow]

Playstyles wouldn't really differ that much

[undone timber]

Its just who kills shit faster without dying

[undone timber]

Nice variation to be fair

[ivory pebble]

I use improvised gear, striker, and survivalists or firewall. used to run p416 until the elmos dropped. I never play on anything lower than heroic because the difference between challenging and heroic is night and day. there should be a level between for players. I also feel like so many others more legendaries should be added. Legendary open world, etc. But I prefer to play alone because I am slow and physically handicapped. So I don't move like others in this game. I just want to have fun

[neon wyvern]

I agree with more leegndaries but I disagree with legendary open world

[ivory pebble]

but wouldn't u want legendary cp's? so how do we make that happen without a way to bring the alert up?

[neon wyvern]

no

that sounds like cancer, and I solo legendary strongholds

[fluid meadow]

Legendary main missions more plausible

They already existed in div 1

[undone timber]

This

[kind veldt]

Legendary suffers from only having white tusks so having the wrong spawn on open world could feel very cheap and unbalanced

[neon wyvern]

legendary is handcrafted in its spawns(except summit. Which scales lower on purpose) for a reason

[fluid meadow]

I mean. You can find legendary enemies from other factions when progressing summit in some random rooms

[neon wyvern]

Imagine a resource convey elite drone op from 3 streets away get LOS on you

[fluid meadow]

Most of them are reds tho

[neon wyvern]

those drones move super fast

[kind veldt]

Thats mostly a summit kink from their exotic fireteam gimmick

[undone timber]

I hate that WT drone operators can sit in cover

[ivory pebble]

yea, but that can happen now. i bet you can recall more times than you'd like all of the cp's you were assaulting, only to have an elite resource convoy appear behind you and then rogue agents across the street. I know for me it happens more than I care to admit

[undone timber]

While operating

[neon wyvern]

I want legendary liberty island

[undone timber]

That’d make plenty of sense

[fluid meadow]

Nego

[undone timber]

Ah yeah

[neon wyvern]

🧠

[opal radish]

Oxis

[neon wyvern]

tier 0 oxi real

[maiden belfry]

Is General Anderson mission infinite enemy spawning

[undone timber]

At points yes

[opal radish]

They go out of cover sometimes on oxis 🧠

[maiden belfry]

Holy shit, this mission is hard to solo

[undone timber]

I had to drop the difficulty when it released

[maiden belfry]

I have failed 5 times now, I was running heroic, with striker build

It's not fun to play either, there were lot of throwers that knock you out of cover, and enemies coming from your behind

[neon wyvern]

I used memento striker on that mission

[undone timber]

I used to run it on normal nonstop for free components

[maiden belfry]

When is project resolve going live?

[undone timber]

February I think

[maiden belfry]

Annnnd it doesn't include the specialisation revamp because it's cancelleD?

[summer crescent]

guys, does anyone know if the Project resolve will also consolidate the mods for gear? or just the skill ones?

i mean no duplicates, only the highest number possessed for skill mod will remain and will be update once you drop higher one, was wondering if the same applies to gear mods

[real moth]

Only skill mods. You can equip up to 7 gear mods currently, so combining them all doesn't really work.

[dull ginkgo]

Guess this will be the first Manhun I don't complete due to it being bugged. Reset it once, due to being unable to talk to the NPC I rescued first. Did all the crap again, got the prompt to talk to her, unable to do so.

Will just pass on this cause I can't be bothered with all the effort involved to rescue all of them in the hopes I unlock the final mission

[summer crescent]

did you solo it all? i did and it worked, just no matchmaking at all through whole manhunt

[errant ember]

whats the best to farm XP for event now?

I heard they nerfed convoy so thats out of the picture

[opal radish]

My name is enough for that

[inner harness]

As a raider if it gets removed like in the pts I'm gonna throw hands with ubi

Razor 1 shot is gonna go back to sync shooters

And Williams 1 shot is gone

[cyan narwhal]

so is buddy and lucy

[inner harness]

You don't need to blb for them

It is possible to solo 1 shot with strikers but sync shooting isn't bad

Still easy asf

[cyan narwhal]

oxi strat is even better

[inner harness]

I disagree

[cyan narwhal]

we done it so yeah it was quick

[inner harness]

Most groups on xbox now have the kiters double bee stack with a scan and sledge and just ignore bars killing lucy

[inner harness]

I have done it too just don't like it personally

[azure lintel]

im looking for 2 people to run pve with me and my brother as i am new player my xbx gamer is demonslayer9050

[lone valve]

#lfg-xbox is ur best bet

[fiery cloud]

@opal radish new Name i see

[midnight salmon]

hello saph

[undone timber]

Unfortunately the 5.11 shill has come to an end

[opal radish]

Yeah 😅

[lone valve]

He now has moved to locking the gear of ducks

[fiery cloud]

@midnight salmon hello

[opal radish]

BTW Hi Saph

[opal radish]

My name is way to show protest regarding the gear lock

[kind veldt]

well we are getting second try this week

[opal radish]

I can't believe they are implementing a feature that restricts your gameplay

[undone timber]

It's pretty dumb

I haven't the slightest idea who asked for that change

[tender wave]

they're just weirdly obsessed with stopping speedrunners from one-shotting everything

[opal radish]

For dumb reason

[undone timber]

Instead of ruining everyone else if they're really desperate why couldn't they have just stopped blb from proccing off switching to regulus

[opal radish]

Just cap the DMG of one shot to 50 million

[inner harness]

That's not what they did it for

They just wanted it in pvp

[lone valve]

I've seen people say that the game is gonna die because of this and they are going to uninstall which for me is an overreaction as I don't feel as strongly about it as some do

[undone timber]

Huhhhh

How come they didn't just implement it in pvp exclusively

[opal radish]

I am pretty sure we all will be frustrated when we run with randoms and switch gear

[inner harness]

Because they didn't know how lol

[undone timber]

It's not world ending but like it's a big c'mon ffs moment

[lone valve]

This is a baby dev team now so they probably have no idea how

[opal radish]

They can't just differentiate PvP and PvE and somehow it is mostly due to PvP PvE suffers

Eagle Bearer

[fluid meadow]

Anyway the mantis is only "overbuffed" in pvp not pve

[opal radish]

Exactly the point

[lone valve]

Tbh I don't use determined because I dislike it's whole philosophy of the talent

Just a personal thing tbh

[opal radish]

I Only use it on Hardcore

[fluid meadow]

Should've never chained

[lone valve]

Oh oops I missed the head and hit his leg oh nvm he's still dead

[undone timber]

Fair enough

[tender wave]

I'm sure determined was just created to let people maintain hotshot bonuses easier, but yeah it shouldn't chain unless you hit a 'natural' headshot, not sure why they can't program that to function correctly

[undone timber]

Didn't they have it like that at a point

[magic atlas]

Might have just been an oversight to be honest

[undone timber]

And then they reverted it

[fluid meadow]

It's good to reward a player for headshotting with another headshot but rewarding a body shot with a headshot is ridiculous

[lone valve]

And then you realise you can't even use skills that you have to throw with hotshot as all the stacks are gone

[opal radish]

Well no one is complaining tbh

[tender wave]

no, they had it like Perfect works now - a natural headshot will consume the buff same as a bodyshot

[fluid meadow]

They complained about it being fixed

[full zinc]

Considering headhunter resets on a bodyshot it shouldnt be that hard to fix it determined

[fluid meadow]

Back to normal. Btw the perfect is the intended determined

[lone valve]

Should've put the perfect version in an actual good mmr not the garbage g28

[tender wave]

if that was what they intended, why'd they change it (twice)?

[opal radish]

Yeah and somehow G28 has it

[lone valve]

Late

[hybrid ore]

I do want to try and make the Relic work on a build at one point.

[full zinc]

I thought perfect det didnt even chain headshots

[fluid meadow]

They already know that most div players aren't hardcore

[opal radish]

Play on story difficulty

[lone valve]

Make the sacrum work lol

[hybrid ore]

Read the room dude.

[fluid meadow]

So something like headshotting constantly is not beneficial for the majority of the player base

[tender wave]

you should keep the determined buff as long as you keep hitting 'natural' headshots, it's annoying otherwise to track whether or not the buff is active when you actually need it

[opal radish]

It had worth when you can use it on your teammates

[lone valve]

I trolled so hard on countdown with that

I almost died laughing

[opal radish]

I used skill builds in CD

[inner harness]

You could throw ih so easily

Last boss half speed

[lone valve]

Should've kept it in and renamed the talent to the trolololol talent

[fluid meadow]

Pretty much. But they realised casual div players (the presumably focused group of players by devs) actually like the talent

Not everyone can use hhhf anyway or legit sniper builds

[lone valve]

Can we place bets on what next seasons new talent will be

[undone timber]

I'm wondering what exotic they're cooking

[inner harness]

I hope damage against disoriented enemies

[lone valve]

Rifle exotic

And knees exotic with rifle gear set

[inner harness]

100%?

[fluid meadow]

That is not beneficial

[lone valve]

Screenshot this

[opal radish]

New rifle

[inner harness]

HF build

[lone valve]

A rifle gear set is a long time coming

[inner harness]

And banshee

[fluid meadow]

They want a rifle gearset so bad 😹

[lone valve]

They don't make new weapons anymore after the tkb fiasco

[undone timber]

Rifle exotic as is would probably end up trash but rifle gearset could make it work

[lone valve]

That had numerous visual bugs

That still aren't fixed

[opal radish]

I want reclaimer back

The box was on another league

[undone timber]

Fuck hives I want muh support station

[buoyant bone]

1886 determined is fun on challenging

[inner harness]

Expertise 20 is getting so easy to get

[lone valve]

Exotic lightweight m4 but buff the shit out of it

[inner harness]

Used by speedrunners lol

[undone timber]

Selector switch

[fluid meadow]

I think gearsets that change the way skills work is their way of giving "new skills"

[full zinc]

It's been easy 😅

[buoyant bone]

What difficulty

[inner harness]

Hard normally

Since they use status builds

[buoyant bone]

Ah

It's busted

[kind veldt]

IF we were to get an exotic rifle i would bet on either MDR or M16

neither being very good exotic

[buoyant bone]

I farm open world with 1886 all directives. Need only 3 red.

[inner harness]

I just farm the same control point repeatedly by plaza

[opal radish]

Every rifle they made sucks

[inner harness]

Ravenous

[buoyant bone]

Haha

[opal radish]

Niche rifle for speedrunners

[inner harness]

Even outside of raids the dps can be great

Nor for speedruns

[opal radish]

Put on M1A with talent

The thing is switching also no Focus chest pcs

[undone timber]

You could argue for rav or m1a but I never see anything else

[kind veldt]

i mean first few IH raids were made with everyone running classic M1A with shields and reviver hives

[inner harness]

It can kill dogs through armour and can 1 tap chungas armour

[lone valve]

The m1a craze

[inner harness]

People still use m1a for prep on feiser

[kind veldt]

it still is good other things just became as good as it

[inner harness]

Not too much dps

[opal radish]

Also take precious exotic slot you could have run ouro Scorpio there

[fluid meadow]

Classic m1a has 100% accuracy as well

[inner harness]

But not weak asf

[lone valve]

Every bloody yter recommending bakers dozen lmao

[fluid meadow]

Ew

[opal radish]

It has 100% accuracy irl from cover

[fluid meadow]

Boomerang ftw

[opal radish]

Rifleman coming in clutch

[lone valve]

Honestly what could they make with a rifle gear set as its unique talent

[inner harness]

Great talent

[undone timber]

God knows

[buoyant bone]

Open hotshot for rifles

[fluid meadow]

Hotshot and stacks on body shots as well

[undone timber]

Me personally I just don't wanna have to press my finger down for every shot that comes out of my damn gun when I use a rifle

[fluid meadow]

Lazy way out

[undone timber]

Literal carpal tunnel

[lone valve]

Destiny has smth like that
It's an accessibility setting

[fluid meadow]

Macro

Jk don't use it

[lone valve]

Borderline cheating

[buoyant bone]

Use cqb

[fluid meadow]

Same issue

[buoyant bone]

After that classic will feel comfortable

[fluid meadow]

Click click click...

[buoyant bone]

[full zinc]

But scorpio fine ig

[fluid meadow]

Nah ew

Spamming scorpio slows its rpm

You have to shoot with a rhythm

I ain't into that

[full zinc]

Just like any semi auto

[lone valve]

What is this a rhythm game

Guitar hero but div 2

[full zinc]

I just kinda find it funny, m1a is carpal tunnel inducer but scorpio is gold for most.

[fluid meadow]

Both are shit regrettably

[full zinc]

Ssdd

Both are good tbh

[dire patrol]

Does the Bighorn still drop in the Summit on Legendary?

[undone timber]

Yes

[fluid meadow]

In terms of "carpal tunnel"

[full zinc]

Legendary bosses*

[full zinc]

Fair

[dire patrol]

thx

[buoyant bone]

Scorpio is a great secondary

If you can slot it

[kind veldt]

the real problem is firing the semi auto rifles that have 30 round magazines

[undone timber]

Omg yes

[kind veldt]

some people even put extended magazines one those and manually fire all 50 of them, thats how oyu get carpal tunnel

[undone timber]

At least 1886 and classic m1a are slower and have low capacity

[inner harness]

Idk about the meta on other platforms but most players drop the Scorpio as they get better

[kind veldt]

all rifles should have the max of 20 rounds

[undone timber]

The semi auto ones with relatively high rpm and big mags are instant no for me because oh my god my fingers

[kind veldt]

anything more it loses too much damage for too much spamming

exception being M16 due burst

and they should make the UMP 45 rifle variant fire in 2 shot bursts

[magic atlas]

I used to run around with the deflector shield for awhile

[lone valve]

I mean I'd say it's a staple for healers
But I don't use it on anything else
OH cc ep too

[magic atlas]

That was a fun time

[kind veldt]

more diversity and less finger hurting

[inner harness]

Healer ofc but nowhere else

[undone timber]

I see it on anything support related really

[kind veldt]

man have been triggering some filters by accident a lot lately

[lone valve]

Meh it's fine on cc ep tbh

[undone timber]

Or as a crutch for hunters

[buoyant bone]

Hunters

[inner harness]

Foam achilees dead

[undone timber]

You get jammed tho

[magic atlas]

Hazard protection

[kind veldt]

achilles stays if you hit thme first before being jammed?

[undone timber]

Don't they jam you the second they spawn

[inner harness]

Ye

[kind veldt]

yes/no

it's really fast but not immediate

[magic atlas]

There is a small delay if you're fast enough

[inner harness]

They do I just wait it out

[kind veldt]

you can see they charging the EMP above their heads

[undone timber]

Ahh

[buoyant bone]

Scorpio with dtooc will be nice though

[hybrid ore]

It's already overpowered and in need of a nerf, dtooc won't change a lot.

[lone valve]

Breaking news dttooc nerfed to 3%

[undone timber]

Exotic wise the only one I'm excited for is EB tbh

[inner harness]

I can't reroll mine

[kind veldt]

i think they should buff damage to armor and make it apply to heavies

[hybrid ore]

The patch isn't live yet, it's still being tested.

[inner harness]

Expertise 24 and triple godrolled is too much to lose

[buoyant bone]

Lol

[hybrid ore]

You don't really need to say"triple godrolled", in this community "godrolled" already means a perfect item.

triple godrolled just kinda sounds like you taped 3 of them together.

[undone timber]

[hybrid ore]

Which, yeah actually I want that gun.

[lone valve]

Exotic tape

[undone timber]

Beware the triple barrel scorpio

[inner harness]

Not what I hear on xbox at least so not used to it

[kind veldt]

lets tape 3 MP7s together

small caliber go brrrr

[hybrid ore]

People like to use big fancy words to make something sound more special. It's like people that use "destroy" to describe a mild nerf.

[inner harness]

Normally I just hear oh it's dbl god rolled or god rolled ar damage stuff like that

[undone timber]

Insane build! Destroys legendaries!

(Ninjabike)

[hybrid ore]

I'm going to start calling it "sparkly omega rolled".

[inner harness]

Can be good tbf

[lone valve]

Eb nerf destroyed my life and took my kids

[hybrid ore]

Not right now, no. But after Project Resolve launches, it'll more approach sparkly omega.

[undone timber]

It's coming back with the milk soon

[kind veldt]

i hear a lot of "broken" instead of destroyed

[lone valve]

Usually it's broken for being op

[magic atlas]

Eb nerf got my dad addicted to drugs, filed for full custody and then when successful had me put in to a care home

[lone valve]

Not broken for being nerfed tbh

[hybrid ore]

The EB nerf in 2019 or the buff that's about to somewhat revert it?

[lone valve]

Holy shit they broke the EB it now shoots fluffy marshmallows

[inner harness]

Not enough red brands for it to be good for dps but you can make nasty aok builds for example

[undone timber]

Broken usually means it's op or bugged

[inner harness]

Plus the sniper setup I have that I mentioned

[hybrid ore]

Sparkly Omega leaves nothing to confusion. You can't mistake that for anything else.

[lone valve]

Status effect sniper

[lone valve]

Sparkles from the manhunt mission

[undone timber]

Repair skills strikers

[hybrid ore]

Sparkles was taken down by a bulwark shield and a badly rolled Liberty I got from a normal LZ activity.

[inner harness]

Th is sparkly omega

[hybrid ore]

Exactly, you can't mistake it.

[undone timber]

Do people still consider sparkles broken

[hybrid ore]

Only if its Omega as well.

[opal radish]

Who is sparkles?

[lone valve]

People somewhat complained that he was "too hard"

[undone timber]

BT fire dog thing

[kind veldt]

i do consider him extremely annoying and on the limit of being horrible

from stovepipe manhunt mission

[inner harness]

Is it a youtuber or sum?

[opal radish]

Ahh the HotDog

[undone timber]

[lone valve]

It's a enemy wym

[hybrid ore]

Considering what the auto-filter tagged, you can't blame it for that one.

[kind veldt]

yeah i understand, too many oopsies do make me worried

[lone valve]

💀

[hybrid ore]

It's only really repetition in quick succession that triggers a ban. Unless it's deliberate over time.

[kind veldt]

thne it's fine

still my worries about rifle category is how we got two 30 round rifles as new guns over time

when the issue was that they were not popular due excessive clicking

feels like the category is trying to be competitive with ARs in the wrong way

[lone valve]

And some bounce around like it's a bouncy castle

[kind veldt]

when it should focus more on M1A and 1886 side of things

[undone timber]

Give me lightweight m4 and lvoa full auto

[kind veldt]

just use elmo and C7

[undone timber]

I still want lwm4 out of principle

My beloved

[analog summit]

How often does WONY go on sale? I believe it just ended and I missed it, but I hear it's on sale frequently

[lone valve]

They hated the lwm4 and the lvoa being so meta in div 1 that they just turned them into rifles

In div 3 the Famas will be a rifle

[kind veldt]

more that those guns were semi auto in the first place

[hybrid ore]

Every major holiday, mostly international ones.
So Valentines Day will probably have one, if not one being sooner.

[kind veldt]

FAL being burst fire in the first game is one my biggest headscratchers

[undone timber]

Saint Elmo's gets brought back but as an exotic rifle

[lone valve]

Tickle Me Elmos

[analog summit]

Thanks! I guess MLK day doesn't exactly make the cut lmao

[undone timber]

The Ain't Elmo's engine

[lone valve]

It might depending on the store

If ur on steam wishlist the dlc and it'll tell you when a sale is live for it

[tender wave]

US-only holidays less likely to get noticed

[hybrid ore]

it's Australia Day in a week and a bit, if there's a sale on at the end of January then you can thank us for it :p

[analog summit]

Did I mess up by owning the game on ubi? Might take me out of some steam deals I suppose

[lone valve]

I saw someone on xbox get a just for you sale of div 1 gold edition for 1 euro I was astonished 😂

[hybrid ore]

@analog summit If you buy the game on steam, you still have to link your ubi account anyway.

[tender wave]

no, steam users miss out on PTS access

[undone timber]

Absolutely banger deal

[hybrid ore]

Actually fun thing: if you own the full game+DLC on ubi, then buy the base game on steam, you have access to both on both platforms.

[copper shoal]

It's about time we got a "Winchester Model 37" single-barrel shotgun.

[hybrid ore]

I don't know guns, is that any different to a cowboy one?

[undone timber]

I see Winchester I think lever action type

[hybrid ore]

the one that Zoe uses in firefly yeah.

[analog summit]

The damage on something like that would have to be extraordinary lmfao

Single barrel shotgun would go crazy

[kind veldt]

if it's the one i'm thinking it's th really short one known as "mare's leg"

single barrel would work well, the damage would need ot reach really high numbers

[hybrid ore]

We have single barrel shotguns already.