#td2-general-chat
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depends on wym because i never really could play div1 pvp my armor was dogshit
I am eternally grateful that it isn't as mandatory to play in the DZ in Div 2 as it was in D1
The main reason for PvE players was The Gift, or maybe Pestilence. You can easily get either of those now in other ways
i just want god armor
this might not be the right game for you then
Replaying the intro makes it so funny that Ubi pretends this game isn't political. :D
That word has lost all meaning at this point.
I mean, given that Division is one of the few right wing / conservative leaning games, I wouldn't advertise that too much either, Probably would attract the wrong crowd.
I'm not sure it leans one way over the other. Unless you're extending that into certain factions being right-wing, in which case absolutely
You know how sometimes when you read something and then afterwards your brain just kinda denies that you have read it at all?
Yeh that's my thought on that too
I legit can not see that reply anymore. It's now a blank space.
Wait, are you guys claiming that Division's political message does not lean right wing?
Bank statement three days after I've gotten paid? Yeah, 100%
I feel like The Cleaners are right-leaning, I could be wrong and a total fool though. The game broadly though, no way
It leans in the direction of a crazy man who people think was in the military but was actually an insurance agent.
but how it actually leans is that they sold off his name like 10+ years ago now and it's all redundant.
it;s a looter-shooter. It doesn't have a "political agenda".
The entire game leans conservative. I mean the plot starts with: "When the cops stopped showing up, did you have a gun? Did your neighbour?" You're a trained special agent, who with the use of extra-ordinary fire power and combat training saves the world from both "bad civilians" and rogue government actors. That's basically what every NRA member always tells everyone why guns are needed. :D
that's the most american take ive ever read im so glad i dont live on that continent
I love politically motivated shootout twice
I'm sorry, but you're straight up wrong there. It is correct that it's a looter shooter, one that I enjoy. But It's also a tom clancy game. That's not exactly apolitical. :D
But also: I fully get not wanting to engage with that. I'm very far left myself, so I'm not big on the messages in Tom Clancy related media, but I enjoy the game.
Tom Clancy has had nothing to do with his own name being on things since 2008.
Ubisoft own it 100%.
But besides all that, it's a good idea to look at this stuff from an outside perspective. Us non-americans just don't see that stuff whatsoever.
Sure. But you get where it's coming from. He obviously didn't write this (as it came out long after he died), but He was a very conservative writer, and that reflects in the works that bear his name.
Well, closing your eyes to it, sadly doesn't make it go away. But like I said: I get not wanting to engage with it. As conservative politics are a bummer.
Oh god this is getting way too yank for me.
If you want to discuss IRL political leanings please do so elsewhere, there really is no place for it on this server.
It's a post-apocalyptic situation. Pretty much every convention goes out the window from day one, I think that's not an unfair statement.
Because the NRA would handle the events of D2 in a similar way to how 'we' did, I don't think that makes what we do inherently right-wing. In that situation, you pick yourself up and defend yourself or you get eaten by a regional warlord with a silly mask
can we just...play the game instead of this bs?
get a life
I have an idea
Game has guns
Guns go pew
Any questions?
Negative. I'm stuck on a conference call, I'm hamstrung at the moment ๐ฆ
its a fictional video game with robot dogs
Robot dogs aren't fictional!!!1!
I'm sorry? Why are you being hostile towards me?
Sad boston dynamics noises.
im so sorry dude my emails have been desolate this morning at work
They're a very passionate person so sometimes their messages can come across as a little blunt.
but your reply did initially seem like it was intended to be somewhat hostile, at first glance.
I sit there and type pure baloney to you guys, then cruise in every 10-15m with something that sounds vaguely smart to certain sorts of people, then mute up again and start talking about racism in Division 2. It's a simple life
I have an idea
that first sentence actually describes me to a t haha โค๏ธ
Remove politics and focus on the actual views of the factions
And don't try to throw them into defining labels
i think cleaners are actually smelly
Seems simple enough
What political views are they? The pew pew kind
which is ironic given their name
One burns people alive, one runs work camps, one makes bad drugs, one wants to burn people alive for a different reason, and one is involved in high treason.
Did I miss any?
I mean no shit all that oil they use
Those suits, that heat. There's no way there isn't chronic, widespread swamp butt going on there. It needed to be said
no decon showers just lube i think
all i want is LMG with SMG reload speed
Oh right, and one is a gang of murderers who want to murder more.
I have no idea which factions you're referring to
HAHAHA
There is one
one uses trash can lids as a shield and medieval melee tactics
It's called "put fast hands on it"
Cleaners, True Sons, Hyenas, Outcasts, Black Tusk, and Rikers, respectively.
BK has no reload?
(bk?)
Bullet King
You didn't mention rikers
That was the follow up message.
in their followup silly
Oh mb
All good.
oh i forgot about the underground faction, who found a hardware store once and want to raid people to keep finding them.
yeah,but ๐ค damage
We don't know anything about them
dying is a sort of reload 
slaps top of BK this bad boy can fit so many revives
Mister chainsaw man got no respect
Incorrect. They're all really big fans of Evil Dead.
chainsaw, axes, its all coming together.
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I'm just making an observation. I am like rank 2 on BK or something idk haven't ever really used it.
Part of me wants combat axes (or at least tomahawks) but purely so I can make clips of them that nobody will watch
live
reaction:
I always say I'll abuse the BK during GB so I can rank it up and just never do. Regulus GB is so gud.
I paid to max it out. No way am I even equipping that thing, I don't want to get booted from checks notes absolutely any activity
If you dont put "xXkombataxeXx 1 shot legendary" as the title, did you even really make a clip?
new axes clear legendary rooms EASILY
If a hunter gets felled by a fading 720 TAC-50-swap ladder-climb tomahawk, and nobody watches it, did they make a sound?
I think that's how the saying goes anyway
New meta axe incoming
This reminds me of when I added the Hunter axe to pd2 and it just flat-out 1 shot a skulldozer on DSOD.
Is there an option to stop the game from reducing the framerate when tabbed out?
I can forgive Hyenas for killing inocent people including kids, but i can't forgive them for shooting one random dog ๐ฆ i made it my life goal to exterminate them
Finding out that the Outcasts infected puppies and them sent them into an orphanage is just....its so comically evil its unbelievable.
actual ingame lore btw.
When that one dog dies every time near the start of the Coney Island mission, it makes me sad in my soul
Nope, 10 fps out of game. It's funny cause you can tell anytime someone tabs out in a vid.
do you think the DLC will introduce a new faction? o:
no
oof.
Expansion 2: return of the Rioters.
5.11 faction 
Me doing backup calls and a super young kid talks on the mic, I always think who tf let you play this game it's super violent and has tons of the worst side of humanity.
i dont think Videogames had any Negative effect on me, i started playing Mortal Kombat at like 5 years old
despite us killing 2000 dudes there's barely blood
most gorey thing is outcast bombers
I can assure you video games do cause a negative impact on health I wrote a paper about this
Im the most agreeable person in the universe (not a good thing) and ive been playing videogames my entire life
Not really if you do it in a limit
Even in a limit there's a very specific area where that's not the case
And I mean incredibly specific way to play games
Mortal Kombat on the Mega Drive/Genesis?
This game might as well be a horde shooter
I played it on PC, the 1991 or 1992, i think was the 1st Mortal Kombat not too sure
Video games have gotten significantly worse on health over the years I admit
oh, incredibly fun fact, in Quake 3 Arena you can flirt with the AI ๐
Alright Dr. eevee what do you suggest we do to combat the side effects 
Play vr kanojo
more video games
Illegalize competitive video games
/srs
Ban Gacha and p2W games from existence

whats the difference from a competitive game compared to a competitive sport
Gacha games should be legally classified as gambling
Love that. Yeah, that game was great. I only played that and Road Rash 3, all day
Ea is gonna go out of buisness 
Competitive games end up with people doxxing each other
ok but that's a security issue
And cannot be held to any one countries laws
So there's little if any legal jurisdiction
not a heath issue
People do that in competitive sports too we wouldn't have red card and yellow cards in football than
Depends on the sport, Boxing for exmple they beat the living crap out of each other
fr
Skill issue perhaps 
Always thought Bungie should be investigated for some of the practices they introduced with Destiny 2. As long as it's not direct lootboxes or antitrust issues, they won't do a single thing
boxing unhealthy
^
You can't monitor the internet like you can a sport
Go to China to find out 
People:Videogames are bad for kids!!
Also People: Imma take my 5 year old to see live wrestling with blood and incredibly dangerous maneouvers!!
real
WWE prime example
hell just watch half the movies in the 80's... all those kids grew up to be killers ig
I can assure you the rainbow six community is a prime example of why gaming is bad
same difference as a game tbh
i mean there's cases where people screwed in the head does some crazy stuff, for example i think some random dude stabbed other random dude over a counter strike match
cherrypicked example
the kids growing to find out that wrestling is ultimately a scripted show is probably more destructive
A Call of Duty one too. He found a guy that was insulting him, went to his house and stabbed him. Crazy
yeah it kinda takes away the excitement of it ๐ฉ
There's more happening than what you see on the news
It ruins people mental health
And develops into an addiction
Yeah i can't deny that it does become an addiction
And I'm fairly sure why it's an addiction
Do control points count as activities?
Not always, there's Uber casual people that only play like 5 hours per week, wouldnt consider it an addiction
I think it's an addiction of adrenaline that you get while playing which leads to the toxic responses you hear from people online, which fuels the adrenaline to go up and it's a cyclical issue
For my weekly project
It's still an addiction if you want to just keep doing it
Doesn't matter how much, an addiction is an addiction
Either im tired or the incursion is way harder today
skill gap
Start game > die > get called bad > keep playing > get a kill > call them bad
Rinse repeat
Bad luck with teams ๐
And the thing triggering these responses are the adrenaline your body is producing
I could be completely fucking wrong btw
the solution is to become a PVE main
Just carry the incursion. Ez.
Randomly dying where I normally dont, skills not working and of course wright teleporting over me
That's my secret
Yes. Attacking is one activity, defending is another. Two for the price of one
Perfect thank you
Yes that's one of the best ways to limit (not avoid) addiction
Just sounds like being tired ngl
The only thing div2 is missing is the comms/ping wheel.
I mean the incursion does get really buggy after running the same session for a while. In speeds we reset after like 2-3 runs but now we just do it every run.
Time to hit the hay, chief. Playing tired is a no go
What kind of bugs?
Ladybugs ๐
Wright will hit you when he melees the opposite way and you'll have sync issues for where he is from player to player and lovebirds can be crazy all the time but it seems worse if you stay in the same session.
That's interesting. Maybe resetting the checkpoint doesn't entirely restart the instance, and some funky bits from the previous runs are left over

I find Johnson vaults the wall more often when we're a few runs in. That could just be funky RNG though
Maybe he saw a bug and ran away 
Dude I hate johnson so much lol we could have had a sub 7 yesterday but he jumped BACK over the railing after coming up.
Just Australian things
Johnson just does what he wants. I respect it, he has his wife that he has shared interests with, and a bunch of kids that they both clearly love
I like how the time to deliver a kid is 9s vs 9 months 

Finally completed incursion and atleast i got oroborous from martinez
Good man. Get to sleep!
Sad thing i got 3 more characters to get keys on
if i want to try a High end DPS Build i can replace GC with Obliterate right? for high ROF weapon, also what should be the BP talent, Vigilance? but its going to go poof if i get shot at so idk how useful that would be ๐ฆ
- Yes
- Use a shield or a decoy
congrats! how many runs did it take you? ๐
if they aren't shooting you you can't lose Vigilance
so, ceska, grupo and 2 providence right? and contractors/foxes's
2
i hate you
hate you too
i have a total of 94 completions and it took about 50 to get my ouro
Well for today. In total got like 30 clears and roughly 4 ouroborous's
all this luck built up from trying to farm pfe mods in leg summit paid off

I prefer Foxes' over Contractor's
how many 13% do you have?
my favorite high-end build is coyote's, grupo obliterate, ceska vigilance, contractor's, fox's, and improvised holster with chd mod. 52 chc 173 chd.
i would suggest the DPS build from the raid compendium. reason is that you can keep it forever and use it in raids without trouble: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10foKYUCF7MZB10DzgrO4W6TzU-EoITWKaryJEyANo-s/edit#heading=h.l3kwfyso6vri
Hey Eevee, Souless, Rivens, Gogamer
This is just an updated version of that guide
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9/2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mix9x_Nx8VY would this still work as of now?
Hi saph
Getting resurgence code is hard 
I timed it perfectly
But no luck
is that avatar game gonna be like div 2 model aka open world loot rpg?
Who knows maybe
you mean out of the dark zone 
He meant time zone 
No. That was never really a gear farm, F10 was used primaraly to farm SHD levels which has been patched. Countdown is far more efficent, but if you want to farm summit efficenetly for gear then F90 (killing 3 named enemies then traveling to lobby, then repeat) is the way to go
no @opal radish might not be your zone for the code
ty
I see
-_- i just reset from 87 to 1
they have a list
rip lol
check it out
Bruh raucey can feel the pain he scared me once ๐๐คฃ
Nice 2nd character completed it in 15 mins
how is CD more efficient? i played like 15 rounds on challenging and heroic and didnt get a singular exotic gun
cd is good for proficency grinding
exo cache every 2 rounds
did that too
catch cache homie
but i keep getting duplicates
It's just RNG for both. Overall chances at countdown will be better, plus you'll get countdown credits you can buy exotic caches with
plus dont for get to use you points
its still rng
I see local is hiding
youll need the exo component anyways. currently its 135 exo to max expertise upgrades to 24
good morning
so CD on challenging?
what?
next season that exo cost is gonna rise to 155 for max expertise upgrades
deconstruct loserly exotic > exotic components
upgrades for after an item is proficient
and whats that do
a metric ton
as in the 3 digits?
the things ppl r gonna do for expertise 25
the question is
a metric ton
or a metric fuckton
what local said, its a massive buff. at max level you can add straight 24/7 on 24% damage boost to your weapon of choice
speak in normal human?
right now a metric ton, next season a metric fuckton
oh no
And of course, a buttload is a standard unit of measurement. It's something like 560-580 litres
LMAO
binoculars
you know how each weapon has damage?? when you level up expertise to max, you'll be able increase it by 24%
binoculars
sick
exp 20 is where i recommend stopping if not min maxing for pvp
I'm reluctant to level the expertise on my gear that much. For that investment, it pretty much never needs to change and I can't guarantee that
Would hate to stick 20% on my Ouro and then have it nerfed
for gear pieces it increases the armor instead, for skills its damage. cant remember what it does to healing skills
yeah never on gear. i level mine to 11 so i can use up some mats that are full. its not worth otherwise
lol just do it 
I've mostly done it on my Striker gear because it feels like it's been meta since about 2003
2003 
That might never go away from the top spot. Ouro might, it's new enough
i wanna max exp bullet king for lulz
Striker: OP in 2 div games and counting.
wait it was good in div 1 as well huh??
In div1 it also healed.
Div 3, day one: goooooood morning madame! Coming atcha with a new video, about the new meta Striker build
would be a shame if they made expertise not work in pvp
Was op in 1 as well
.....yes that would be the 1 out of 2.
Time is a flat circle. There will be more Nemesis references, there will be another Striker set
2 div games
Anyone got a wall I can talk to? It might be more productive.
that would be hilarious ๐ฏ
Find the nearest wall near you 
Nah that doesn't work, no talky.
defender drone users would be in shambles
Don't recommend. When it comes to an eventual fistfight, you'll lose
would make pvp sweatlords mald and seethe hard ๐คฃ
I want them to buff sleigher 
real
Removing SHD post-999 bonuses, and Expertise both would cripple the DZ in one update.
Sleigher should be meta for the whole month of December imo
and would make me happy
Well that's not going to happen, but luckily a certain mask that's also holidays locked can be meta for you.
Chill Out, for reference.
Yeah on Christmas gets 69% amp
I think the trello says non invaded DZs would have no expertise/SHD.
better apply to conflict
Oh Carol is meta mmr
So invaded would still have those things if the change ever happens
ok i dont have 3 providence but i got a build that accomplish the same thing i think XD Coyote's Mask, Gift BP, Ceska Obliterate, Grupo Holster, Contractor's and Fox's
That is the same as 3pcs prov bonus
I mean it's all pretty much the same.
yea
Doesn't it have an awful Talent?
I haven't used it in 1-2 years.
nice i guess i have a High end build now :3 all i need to optimize is the Backpack a little bit because is not maxed
everything's trash when determined exists
Yeah but it is a white death with locked talent so the 2nd best non exo MMR what do you say @timber hatch
Do you play often?
Part of me gets the feeling the folks that thought up Determined forgot there are actual one-shot sniper builds
It came out last year 
Yes that's why I said 1-2 years.
live hunting m44 reaction
seriously, are you not reading these comments fully?
Aaron keener eclipse reaction 
Literally haven't started the game yet.
I'm hoping to try the tutorial some time this week.
I have someone on my friends list who changed the talent for White Death to Determined. I wish I understood how
Lmfao ๐ pretty sure you haven't gotten pass the reCaptcha
White Death's Talent isn't locked.
some Named Items have locked attributes instead of Talents.
< Fails reCAPTCHA checks routinely, I seek them out just so I know I can still feel
Like the mop with 10% aok
Nice! Didn't know that
Well if you ever need a hand let me know. I know a thing or two about looking at the floor in detail.
Is the video stuff after missions new? I don't remember that.
We're too different. I have intimate knowledge of looking up at the ceiling when someone's shot me
I just fall and have to tie up my shoe laces.
Do you spam H like me?
Why not get shoes without lace
Naw I hold control. Let the door open pick me up.
Mine are velcro because I'm a Striker main
I main HH HF most the time. I did a WILD backup call with 135 kills on air and space last night. 4 people there the entire mission they were 11-7-4 kills. I don't even know how.
Did you build check
Oh neat, you must've found that one Incursion team I joined a few days ago
I think they were experimenting with trying to get through the game on Rock Band Bongos, there's no other explanation
That dude with 4 kills definitely fast traveled to the white house 5 mins into the mission
No time for that. Gotta pop heads.
I have carried people too
Headless13
Let me pull up the SS
based
I think i have most of the useful builds in the game almost perfected except the absolute dogsht ones like rigger and Hardwire because eww
Seeking mines sound like fun, until you realize the enemy ai go into dark souls mode and dodge roll the crap out of them
hard wired is good
it's not really to deal damage to them as much as CC them because them rolling means they aren't shooting
and for electronics, they don't dodge and explosives hurt them a lot more
hard wired is underrated in legendary
Hardwire is nice especially seekr jammer combo on legendary is nice
Just make sure you use the hard wire bag
well more that the alternative was pressing one ubtton and wiping an entire room of enemies
is there something that lets you have more ammo capacity? my max was 842 with an AR but itโs gone down to 787 now and iโm not sure what iv done
very few pieces of gear, and usually your own SHD watch
how long is it going to take i already opened like 10 exotic crates and did like 20 countdowns just to get one exotic gun
still didnt get it
how long is what going to take
Elmo.
@green eagle It's RNG. It can take 5 minutes or it can take 5+ hours.
if Countdown isn't working for you, try Summit w/Directives. Make sure it's on Challenging/Heroic.
Heroic Summit drops exotics like crazy
It's the same drop rate
New target tomorrow?
Yes
Nice. I was in the hospital for a bit and lost track of stuff
Hmm. I guess it was to be expected that after so much time low level match making is not great. Hoped the sale would have boosted it a bit.
How the higher level matchmaking?
theres so many options for specific things you can matchmake for, that matchmaking for specific things wont find too many people. but there are still a solid amount of players who do random stuff you can matchmake for, and the more common things theres always people
These infrastructure updates keep getting bigger time wise
Although they also now are starting much earlier
chameleon stock shortage. they need to construct more and for that you need more computational power.
daamn xD
CD still broken lmaoo
Yeah, I currently started a new character to go trough the story again. But I'll probably abandon that and just level my old level 30 character.
Ortiz looks fun
Not broken for me
Crashes even months after the so called fix
such thing as a +20 round 7.62 mag?
Theres a +20 round AR mag idk what 7.62 is
lol what. The game has two types of ars. 556 and 762
Yeah there are +20 round mags for both.
Ty
Idk what 556 and 762 mean
Caliber of bullets.
Silly goose ๐ฆ
Isn't caliber measured in inches
Depends on the round.
Wdym
So .50 BMG is us where 5.56 is metric and so is 7.62
5.56mm?
Yes.
Ok
5.56 = famas 7.62 = not famas
king breaker=7.62
yes
Ok
I think carbine and police are 7.62
Don't think so
Isn't m4 5.56?
I might be getting kingbreaker/TKB mixed up 
generally speaking ARs fire 5.56, a full auto rifle firing 7.62 is tenuously referred to as a battle rifle
Ye
nvm
Kingbreaker is 7.62x39 I believe
Any weapon can pretty much be any caliber these days.
With the amount of companies making custom parts it's not too hard to buy kits to swap any platform over to whatever you want.
What does x39 mean
intel's prototype socket
is kb still top damage with pulse??
x39 is length of the casing
Yeah since there also exists a 7.62x51 NATO.
they need time to make kelso even bigger of a baddie
New bugs take time
no such thing as bugs in div 2 just features

are those supposed to be eyes

I do miss the snow of division 1 a bit. That game had ~vibes~.
gameplay > vibe imo
Still find div 1s gameplay fun
Hell currently playing the GE on it rn
and i agree div1 gameplay is solid but i just think div2 does it better
talking pve only, i dont do much pvp
I think as far as movement yea
I think in terms of skills I'd take div 1 ngl
I also don't like how in div 2 the recoil is basically non existent compared to div 1
Does nemesis has the 8x scope?
variable, 12x-16x. its basically the same as the sharpshooter scope
Appreciate it thanks
Bruh i blocked these people yet im still somehow joining their backup call
The warlords difficulty seems higher than what we had in the base game. I'm losing armor pretty quickly to enemies in missions on story difficulty.
The gear you come in with becomes obsolete VERY quickly so you'll want to equip anything you get.
Interesting. I guess I might as well also switch specialization, gain some levels in that, too.
Yeah filling out specs is super nice. All specs have their own special perks and some are better for certain situations so just have them all ready to go while you farm SHD and gear later on.
Maybe switch to the other map.
Yeah, I used to have the sharpshooter back in release, but I might switch from that.
I do understand it to a degree. In theory, you could just block everyone better than you and have no traffic on Easy Street forever
If they introduce new Spec with DLC i hope they make something truly unique like an actual useful signature weapon that is melee, an axe or something, a sledgehammer
Hunter's Fury Sledgehammer ๐คค
1 v 1 Wright in glorious Melee combat
i doubt they will
spec is the second oldest thing needing a rework in the game
and is too big to be done fast and the devs said they werent too good with the code to do it
is there a new DLC coming? or new game ? div 3? i havent kept up with news just wondering if anything has been confirmed
i cant imagine they are willing to let the franchise die already right?
good talk
Division 3 was confirmed to be in development, will likely come out after the two free-to-play ones, Resurgence (mobile) and Heartland (regular)
Div 3 was never confirmed to be in development. Some guy got hired and it was noted that after some other games he would put a dev team together for it.
well "some guy" he's a creative director? iirc at Massive fwiw lol
he was already at massive hes working on star wars outlaws atm
and a little bit after that ships he becomes the executive producer of the franchise where he wants to get a team for it
hoi drib
Is a healer needed in a team with a tank
really just depends on what your doing. Certain sections of the raid, yes. Most general situations neither are needed
Poop
Poop indeed, well said
can someone tell me where can i find union distrciet arena?
Its funny how with ND you can kill enemies with their own healing stations c: they drop their healing thingy and you tag them and shoot at it and they die ๐
you can look at it deeper and realize that ND's spread damage is skill damage
and you are killing the black tusk healer with his own skill
Iโm getting a PS4 and Iโm getting division 2.
why not PS5 
swap healer and tank... now that's a better question ๐
i feel like the word "tank" is a misnomer and needs to be corrected
it should be "sponge"
because tank implies a really big cannon that can boom things
naming is everything. how often would people say "i really enjoy playing sponge. that's my favorite role."
@unique summit Ah, but the term 'tank' isn't just about dishing out big damage, it's about taking it too
sponge leaves no room for ambiguity 
That's true. Never really considered how much the term 'tank' doesn't make too much sense
Tanks were notorious when they were first introduced into combat for their mobility and ability to take massive gunfire*
the summit key rooms are every after 3 levels right? like 3, 6, 9, 13, 16, 19, 23?
Not exactly.
More like the third room after every group of ten.
So 3, 6, 9, yes. But then 13, 16, 19.
And then 23, 26, 29.
yeah as you wrote them. the key itself can be anywhere in the few levels before. the elevator serves as your checkpoint
thanks guys appreciate it
any one know if BTSU gloves can drop from count down?
Yes, they can drop anywhere ๐
Drops at floor n+3 n+6 and n+9 with n = floor of multiple 10
Random topic, what happened to voice chats??
Ubisoft wanted them removed
my freind has d2 running it on the ubisoft app if he buys the expansion thru steam will it work?
does backfire only have magazine size as attribute? Ive recrafted it for 5 times already and its all mag size att omg
Backfire is fixed
All exotics before Sacrum Imperium can't have their attributes changed by re-rolling them.
Which is like, 95% of Exotics.
omggg ive wasted mats geez. tss. I say there shud be indicators if can or can not be recalibrate. ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
All or none, frankly. We should be able to do all or none.
I already got the first 2 stats perfect and I recablirated thinking Id get other atts. lol. sigh.
Consider it a teaching moment.
Like how some people ruined their otherwise godrolled items because they think the +1 Skill Tier on the Kard pistol counts no matter what.
@sterile ferry on discord???
Where else?
Yeah no choice. Thanks tho.
Wow
@hybrid ore I think they should let us do it to all exotics
As per #discord-news
No one is happy about it, but they likely aren't coming back.
I find it funny that out of all my games, Division 2 is the only one that causes my PC to BSOD after trying to launch it again after a failure to launch error
how do you access the seasonal content again?
You need to be Lvl 40 (have finished WONY) and then pause the game. It's all there in the menu.
@hybrid ore it does take time to change over the hamsters that run run the servers
I'm still waiting for them to add a comm/ping wheel to the game and it's been almost 6 years now, and that's something I wanted in div1.
don't hold your breath though.
Make get on to Julian to implement in Div 3
My #1 wishlist item for Div 3: Tarkov level of gun customization. Start from a receiver and build out your weapon piece by piece
Servers offline an hour early? Sadface just got home from work
look on the brightside that means Div 1 will still be playable until Div 2 comes back up
This is true
Why do these weekly maintenances keep getting longer??
@fiery flax it takes many hours to change the server hamsters over , poor guys get worn out quicker than others ๐คฃ
Hamster labour is a real thing guys๐คฃ
6 hours wtf
rip
Old ubi servers lol
Probably as old as you,winston
An old Pentium 3 box with a permanent coffee ring on top
And its PSU is a single hamster wheel
And it's misaligned so it squeaks more than the hamster does
6 hours maint. ffs, see you tomorow.
I wish we could post gifs in here @hybrid ore
Finishes before I can play. #justeuropeanthings
are servers down?
@wind turret There's not a lot of gifs that would fit in the div2 gen-chat.
@hybrid ore there is heaps , especially hamsters lol
I want to change my server :(((
Go to dark zone checkpoint
THis game got new content yet?
@hollow grove i know its crazy but i just found out by moving my mouse upto annoumnets channel i was able to see if servers down are any updates never knew about this 2023 wow
but then ive got a extension cable on my mouse so maybe most people cant move their mouse that far
Servers back up yet?
@full zinc today is the day
๐บ๐ป๐ป
Very nice. I was getting thirsty ๐
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dose anyone know's why i can't connect to servers and keep geting mike-01?
#server-status maintenance
@elfin hazel can't we have a timmer in server status 
ah man tnx god i was doing so much googling and all i found was server problems and then i serched server status and i saw it was all fine lol
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1:30 am shouldn't be 12:30 am
do the servers ever come back up early?
or should I not get my hopes up XD
sometimes they do but not by much
at most and hour but thats rare if it does come early its usually like 10-30 minutes before
then patience it is XD
again they are down for so called infrastructure .... 4th time now. can't get it right i guess.
still MT?
yep. i think another 2 hours or so i believe
nice
Life, man. It's an old system at this point (and it might not've even been brand new when D2 came out)
6 hours for what ?
The humor though, The 'Official' server status page has been saying the servers are online: https://ubistatic-a.akamaihd.net/0115/tctd2/status.html
LIES!
Akamai is normally better at that. You can point it to specific services to check if it's really running or not.
Someone's likely configured it to do a blanket check - is the server on or not? If it is, it's working so chill
Human beings, none of us are perfect unless we're Gillian Anderson. In which case, scratch that
This is really only getting in the way of me continuing to set up my substandard Nego build, I'm not missing anything
Oh server down
sched for another hour and almost half
I'm surprised someone at Ubi hasn't thought of a cross-sell maintenance page. "Oh hey so D2 is down, but Odyssey is still up while you wait. [shop link]"
They are busy w/the connect revamp
So 8.30pm maintenance finish right?
As long as the connect revamp = connect not being totally useless anymore, that's all good with me
according to schedule
Congratulations on completing the task! Here's 5 Ceramics and one set of purple kneepads
Lol
I just play this game so really have a lot thing to do
Gonna wait till server up
Have you watched 'Scavenger Reign'?
I need to get better at pretty much everything, some things by a long way
Scavenger's Reign*
Only hope server up like what schedule said
Good evening friends.
How long will it take until the servers are online again as planned?
about an hour if schedule is right
Thanks ๐
every time i wanna play the servers offline !!!
Servers up yet ?
nope
nop, ill hop on wildlands then , do some challenges there
Oh thanks, It's still 2 hours, not 1
Did they change it? Orginally they said until 8:30 EST which is in 1 hour
11:30pm + 6 hours = 5:30 am. So based on that, 62 minutes to go
Still got an hour
But or course, we can always get the day off because Rolf and Ulf canโt work any longer lest they get overtime
Still no notes...
If there had been a patch, they most likely would have posted the notes yesterday
19.3 is planned for later
19.3:
- Onyxia now does Deep Breath more often!
The reduction in communication is saddening.
No need to be sad, just wait. This game was on life support for a little while, it had a skeleton crew that was (apparently) made up of juniors. We're getting regular server patches and a new DLC next year, this is much more OK than it could be
maintenance has always been like this
When the gaem is able to be loaded, look at patch notes in game
the last time they were updated was AGES ago
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
There are so many other things out there that can scratch that itch for another couple of hours. I'd love to recommend Vigor for the time being as a neat little throwaway thing
Youโre being disrespectful by not agreeing with me.
I don't expect many people to use in game patch notes as nice as it would be for them to be updated
I just got into the game (relatively late) and this is actually really refreshing to hear
I don't think patch notes in game are that big of a pillar for communication
This game genuinely died for a bit. It stopped getting mentioned on Ubi earnings calls, talent was being pulled on to other things that mattered more. Someone forgot their brain was off, turned it back on and now we're in a better spot. This is still absolutely OK
easy instance to point at.. but you can focus on that
symptom is not whole disease...
silly
Hope to see more activity specially with the Autumn steam sale, been eyeing the game for a while and finally got it
WONY (the DLC) is very worth it. You can probably find it for pocket lint at the moment
Yup I got the bundle with the standard version + DLC
Like $17 for the whole thing, super affordable
Wouldn't mind a slightly less bonkers leveling/tier system in D3 though
Less of an afterthought?
I don't remember WoNY being part of the plan from the beginning. Like it was announced after the noticed the sustained community
somehow, I doubt that very much
uhm, they said so publicly...
was part of the plan but it wasnt announced until just a couple of weeks of it's release
case in point was that GE leaked pretty early in the game life
considering how tidal wasnt even in the game for like 5 months I'd be surprised if it wasnt in mind
A friend recommended this to me after I got bored with Destiny 2. And Iโm really impressed. Lots to learn and to do.
Read the first sentence of that article: Ubisoft's The Division 2 is getting an all-new wave of content later this year, despite the previous update being believed to be the final one.
Actually it was a month between launch and Tidal.
that month felt a lot longer maybe I'm thinkin of TU5 for whatever reason
Probably yeah.
that first month was crazy, our first Apparel Event too.
is chameleon still good
I just got my first exotic and the game went down
thatโs the post Faye Lau manhunt content, not WoNY
๐ฅน
one must imagine sisyphus happy
does ouroboros drop on summit?
No, never.
It's not-is good-not good.
Chameleon is a strange case, as it's actually quite strong if you can keep the buffs up and stay within its very short range.
so its
But that's a very bug if.
"use it good and its good"
"use it bad and its horrible"
long story short: you're better off with basically any other gun.
Hitting 30 headshots grants 20% critical hit chance and 50% critical hit damage for 45 seconds.
Hitting 75 body shots grants 90% weapon damage for 45 seconds.
Hitting 30 leg shots grants 150% reload speed for 45 seconds.
Exiting combat refreshes timer on all active buffs."```
The last part is the bit where it all comes apart at the seams.
wdym
Worst gun of all TD2, Backfire, or does anyone actually have a build for it?
It's good for Ezotic componets.
theres one in the spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice IIRC
I made one yeah
For countdown.. any of people here play on chalenging or heroic lvl?
I had a dream where there was 5 people with bulwark shields protecting this one manhunt from being shot
isnt backfire more like meme gun
completely unrelated but I love the guff profile
kind of
it can be strong but you have to build around it
5 people that weren't rogue
Backfire is fine but you need a very specific build for it.
If you aren't hitting the 93.8% hazpro/bleed, then it's going to kill you faster than most enemies can.
and at that point you're just better off making some HE build unless you really want to use a backfire build
My first exotic was a Scorpio someone dropped for me 
been carrying my whole team ever since i got it
Didn't get the parts you had to wait another day
Is scorpio good?
its good in any build
it is the backbone of my entire team, it's the destroyer of worlds in my opinion
also disgusting in dark zone
as much as i dont like semi auto shotguns, when we need to kill something, i pull it out
I wanna say my first exotic was either chatterbox or sweet dreams
I could not for the life of me get a merciless
My first exotic is st elmo got it on countdown
Y1 exotics were awesome
miss you Y1 pestilence
I miss y1 merciless
I miss when one was a bit worse than the other.
mostly because it set the reddit on fire for a while.
Lol
we're in the dangerzone now. we're either gonna have the servers up anytime now or get hit with the delay notice.
If your name is Otuc curse you
wait is the
sssshhhh
Is the
maintenance
brain fart big booger stuck
ok 6 hours but from 9 gmt +1?
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it's either gonna come up in 11 minutes or stay down. brace yourself!
How much time left for the end of the maintenance ?
Based on the time they gave us the servers should be up in 5 mins, right?
Assuming no delays
ah ok thx ๐
5 minutes 11 seconds 
Ily bro
๐ซถ๐ป
but is only maintinence or new update?
Just a maintenance
ok ๐ ty
i hope they remember to put all the fuses in the right boxes
Lmao
Somebody give this guy a job in 5.11
wait is it done...?
Servers are up for me, i just logged in
yea
They were 3 minutes early holy cow
Yeah i got. in too
9.11 have higher salaries
๐คข its so bad now
lol
i'm in as well yay
7/11 is probably hiring.
Need 5.11 not 7/11 nor 9/11 or 6/9 maybe 
Oh is that joke not over yet? You've been saying "5.11" for the past month now.
clan vendor is selling yaahl chest if anyone needs mats
What is the attributes and talent?
Lemme check
Can bulk buy for yaahl weaves and then craft more useful yaahl pieces
Hazard p and weapon handling
campus is selling a Uzina item if anybody needs its mats to craft a setup
Trash
i never said it was good though?
yes
YESSSSSSSSSSS
Very nice. Anyone who needs yaahl, pony up 5mil to fill the mats.
Pretty rare outside of dz
not bad contractors gloves
What are the pieces you can craft for yaahl again?
Guyyyyyss
grind to lv24 exp is the true end game๐ค
The left 3 on the board.
The hallow man mask in the east dz vendor max rolled armor !!!
I know for sure mask. There should be a few bp
mask chest & holster i think
servers are still down?
They're up.
Servers be like;
I get knocked down, but i get up again, youre never gonna keep me down
epic fail
Don't do that.
Well that was annoying.
Ahh I don't have a pc to play so 5.11 joke is all I got 
The fact that it's a real brand, it just sort of sounds like you're trying to advertise for it.
division 2 themed 5.11 pants
In case people didn't know, it's an actual brand of clothing that paid to be in the game.
The fact that it's also probably the worst brandset is slightly funny.
That's interesting, didn't know that. So that's all my 5.11 stuff getting scrapped then
theyre in breakpoint too
Me waiting for servers to come back
they already are?
They are up ?
Since when? I just tried it 10 minutes ago and no luck
What a weird business model. Outdoor equipment, let's market it and lay it on thick to gamers
ive been playing for 20 mins
Don't wait for ubisoft to annouce it you will be waiting for 3 years ๐
It's actually "tactical clothing", so you can see where it starts to click in with a few games.
Aha, the Gravy Seals.
but not tacticool
god i hate the medical camp near tidal basin, its impossible to navigate
Oh my god yes
woot woot, Yaahl chest in the clan vendor
garbage, but finally able to craft some Yaahl pieces I was needing
My backfire setup only ever used a single piece, but I know the DZ needs a higher % of haz.
For certain builds to counter the last 3 seasons worth of weapons/gear
She's on fire, and she burns in the night at the speed of light
Where's the manhunt? I've done all tasks and can't find the rescue mission
capitol building
3rd manhunt target is here?
still not all of them for recruiter right?
no we need to wait 4 more weeks
then i'll just wait for christmas stuff to start
no thats next month
drip feed content be like
yeah cause of the extension between targets brain alarm is thinking it should be closer than it is
still cant buy dark path apparel with textiles
yea - vikram malik is the last civilian
wait has this season always had 33 audio comms?
seems a lot more than i remember for some reason
m wondering if i should buy Div 2 on pc sale i pre ordered div 2 when it came out back on console everyone says not to get it i enjoyed it a bunch and stuff but dunno if i should or not
I think it's a fun game and I really enjoy it
Its much more fun to play on PC
I will say you need the expansion
but theres a catch
Yeah, get WONY
so when i bought it on console i got the pre order like ultimate edition that came with none other than the Secret service and the fire first response uniform and stuff and hence me being a firefighter i wish there was a way to get them back unless there is cross progression or something like that
i did
I mean, you'll need to get it again for PC
i dont think that stuff is available anymore like at all
You're right, I sent you the wrong link. That said, on https://store.steampowered.com/app/2221490/Tom_Clancys_The_Division_2/, I see the option to buy the Ultimate Edition. Right near the top
It's not clear if it still contains the preorder stuff or not, the unfortunate thing is that each bundle doesn't explain exactly what it has in it. I think it would be a small price to pay for moving over to PC though, it appears to have a much higher player base there (as well as all the other obvious benefits)
Ultimate wony edition contains everything bar the capitol defender pack and the enforcer I believe
On the Comparison Grid block further towards the bottom, the advertised extra content is the First Responder Pack
where
Below 'Recent Events & Announcements' there are two images. One is a grid with crosses in it that denotes what each edition grants you. Right below that, the poster for the Ultimate Edition
I'm gonna lose my mind I hate this bounty spot where the hell do I go
i may have just screwed myself
is there a way just to buy the ultimate even if i have the game in my library or no
I believe you can just upgrade and buy the ultimate
it doesnt give an option on steam but im looking
That's so real
Mood
Hello people o/
Halo
Appreciate it may not be helpful as I don't know your location, but I'm looking at Steam right now from my locale (somewhere?) and it seems extremely simple. Is it worth sharing which country you're from, so someone with the same options available on Steam can help?
US
Over to the rest of you โค๏ธ
i was looking at something i dont think you can upgrade it sadly
Looking on steam rn cuz I've been thinking the same thing, can't find anything on it
Yeah, might need to just buy the y1 stuff separately
the ultimate is like the stuff i want and i bought the wrong one now im waitng on a refund just to buy it again and i hope the refund is quick and stuff the ultimate is all the year one stuff
You got 2 hours so let's see
I wouldn't count on it though, refunds can take a while
usually everytime ive done one it only took 30 minutes to an hour
i guess ill have to see if i get lucky again
Damn when I tried to refund phas it look almost a day
If it's time-sensitive, are you able to buy the Ultimate Edition now then just ask for a refund on the other one?
^
It might be easier to just buy what you want on uplay directly if your still having issues with steam
you cant buy two versions of the game like the ultimate part isnt seperate and maybe im blind so help
i can try but idk i look rq
its not giving me an option like i cant even find div 2 on ubisoft connect
Forgot the sale ends today at 1 so I quickly grabbed ghost recon ultimate edition
Whoopsie
well i found a way kind a other than ubisoft right there i can get the game perm removed and buy it again but i wont get money back so ill wait and see and hope
I was told to reconfigure my St Elmoโs but I have no idea how, help please?
does anyone know if i can purchase the ult edition from like the in game store and what it would link you to?
crafting table you can reroll the exotic if you have the blueprint pretety much people use to try to get better rolls
I have the exotic but itโs not showing up to buy from the girl?
check the table see if you already have the blueprint
I donโt
Is it because thereโs a stupid share item tag on it?
How can I get rid of that
The share tag doesn't mean anything, it will vanish after an hour of playtime.
no, that has nothing to do with it
So during that time I should be able to buy the blueprint of it?
Did you buy the blueprint from Inaya?
Why canโt I then :/
No itโs not showing up there
It shows my other exotics but not St Elmoโs
The share tag has nothing to do with anything but being able to share it with the group (if any) that you obtained it alongside.
Try restarting ubi-connect, since you just got the Exotic, it can potentially glitch out.
or your console, whatever.
Are you sure you haven't already bought it?
I got the exotic yesterday then logged out to play with my gf
100%
I checked the crafting thing too just to make sure
Console restart, 100%
Why not game restart?
Basically you want to make sure that the game properly resets and not just kinda goes "its cool bro".
Think you should restart the game. Let the game have an 'oh right, hold on chief' and give it to you
Don't mean restart your character, but turn off the PS[4/5] then back on
Nah delete your character, then smash the ps5 and buy a new one.
Just make sure you buy a new car first.
I do not have the money for a new car hahaha
Ah right, Inaya wants you to join her MLM first. I forgot
Her essential oils will fix your Contaminated DZ gear, trust her.
hello I have a doubt, if I buy the seasson pass is for life cycle of seasson pass?
I mean, each year is free?
#BossOfOperations
so only need to buy 1 time and cat I acess all premium content of all seasons when release?
@true idol Each Season Pass is only for this particular Season, not the entire life of the game.
Just make sure that you know this first: the Season Pass is only for the bottom tier, which is only cosmetics and excess caches. The top one is free if you own the WONY expansion.
tl;dr you don't need to buy it unless you want the cosmetics.
its really funny seeing people I recognize from here for like a split moment and going WAIT A MINUTE
@hybrid ore I have deleted my character, smashed my ps5, bought a new one, grinded back to where I was and I still canโt buy it
good heavens
Hey .drib, Gogamer, Rivens, Raucey
You missed a step, you forgot to buy 18 beanie babies and resell them for a profit.
I know, it may take a while.
hey saph 
Damn it
But for real what am I meant todo?
St Elmoโs reconfig
Itโs not showing up for me
doesn't exist
do you have the weapon?
crafting bench
Yes I do
you may have to buy the bp from the lady there
Iโm there, Inaya isnโt selling it and itโs not unlocked
St elmos can't be level downgraded
oh are you on a lvl 30 agent?
Hey Local
morning Saph
Level 40, my one and only character
i almost wanna say get a WONY ONLY character
Iโm not restarting lol
did you just get the drop
I got it yesterday and logged off. It has a share item timer on it but others said that doesnโt matter
yeah that shouldnt matter. i was gonna suggest restarting your system but if you logged since last night then it shouldve refreshed
did someone drop the elmos for u
Nope, did a legendary mission, got an exotic crate and got it from there
weird
Iโve just restarted my PS5, see if it changes
maybe exotic caches make the game think you just picked it up from the stash therefore no blueprint
Wdym?
yeah im not sure then. only place to do anything is with the BP and it shoulda become available to purchase once owned
The ruthless thing came from the stash and I can buy that
I also got other exotic items from caches which I can buy bps for
it might just be some lag, they did a long maintenance today so you never know. i would just check back in a bit before getting worried about it
idk elmos is the only gun you can't downgrade because just having the gun(via stash) isn't enough to warrant the blueprint
ive seen dyes and such take days to actually become available after rewarded
Iโve restarted and I canโt buy it still. Iโll go open an exotic cache and if I can buy it then idk what todo about it
maybe get it from a countdown drop if the blueprint doesn't appear it's a 1/2 from exotics if you don't have capacitor
I had a super low shd friend get it from cd and he has the blueprint
The exotic gloves I just got canโt be bought either
Sad
Okay so I logged out and logged back in and the gloves I just got can be bought but not st Elmoโs :/
IM AN IDIOTTTT.. I scrolled down and itโs at the bottom of the list ๐
holy shit
So sorry for wasting everyoneโs time
If I scrap my exotics can I still buy the blueprints?
I need more exotic material or whatever
Welp
i feel so stupid i did something dumb and guess what steam was like oh heres your refund
ugh im so dumb
Another day another hostage rescued
Guess black tusk though it be a good idea to have some true son leaders to command the black tusk
how many elites this time?

It's not a waste, we're all happy to help.
Hi saph
my time is forever lost and i will never mentally recover from this
but honestly most cases are just that kind of dumbass mistake
happens way more than anyone thinks
Not too many but they threw soo many guys to stop me
This whole kicking of people instantly from countdown is ridiculous. I spend more time trying to get into a lobby than I do playing. It's so fast half the time I know they didn't even bother to look at my build. It's absurd. Not only that, but the game has been out so long that half of these 1000-5000shd lvl guys suck anyway, so this whole let me kick you instantly for being lower shd is just stupid. I can't stand this
St.Elmos now in target loot pool?
Yes
Are you doing challenging or heroic?
And what build are you running?
Soon we will be catching a rat
The final target is a complete rat but contains what we need to go after the recruiter
idk what to do for my bday today
have a curry
a good curry with naan sounds great actually
interesting choice
Im SHD 18 right now and that hasn't happened to me yet. Idk. Guess just bad luck.
I'd absolutely want to check what build you're using. Getting booted on sight is a pretty damning indictment
I would only worry if someone is using purple gear
Yeah, me too. Aside from a skill build or something really poorly put together, I don't feel like it's worth it
Just a thing, you fail at extraction then you fail at extraction. It's all good, move on from it
Agreed. It's kinda shit when that happens.
If you are the one starting the group you'll control the kicks . Theyll have to see themselves out if they dont want to run with low shd ๐
I'm doing heroic, and as i mentioned they are kicking me before looking at gear.....Not that it matters but i run 4p striker
Lvl 18 means you have barley touched countdown
Yeah I mean it would be one thing if they were good but i have run across more and more lvl 1000+ shd guys who are just bad. Almost like they want some 10,000+ guys to carry them. I dont even need a carry
All red?
yeah
Yeah. I just started getting into it when I learned about builds and how to get the pieces for them.
But I normally matchmake on Heroic with 1000+ SHD people
Yeah heroic be like that. I rarely see agents kicked in challenging. The loot is still good quality and the obj goes quick.
Well I hoope you never experience the crap, but odds are you will
the way i see it, if i can kill a hunter on my own you shouldn't be kicking me
Yeah probably. Sorry man. Hope it gets better for ya
There is a bug in the game where inspecting people's builds shows what they were wearing last. So you might have your Striker build equipped but the countdown leader sees something else. You said you're getting kicked very quickly so yes it's probably SHD level. And yes it's completely stupid that some people kick for low SHD level.
What I'd recommend is you start your own countdown group. This is very easy to do and you don't have to worry about kicks.
Another option is to just run challenging countdown until your SHD level increases a bit.
Both options are available to you and one of them completely sidesteps the whole problem. There's no reason to hate on high SHD levels. Some people are jerks, most people are not, it's fine.
It's all elitist type shit
Fax
well, i mean the reason to hate on them is the fact that they are jerks. I never said i dislike high shd people though, just the morons the kick without checking builds. If your going to kick do it for a reason
No, you're being blinded by being irrationally butthurt over being kicked in a countdown lobby. Saying that high SHD levels are jerks is as silly as kicking people for low SHD level. SHD level doesn't mean anything.
Just create your own lobby and move on.
Wait what? You need some glasses man
I said "There's no reason to hate on high SHD levels." and you said " i mean the reason to hate on them is the fact that they are jerks".
Yes the people that kick for low SHD level are dumb. But there's really nothing that can be done since it's their lobby.
Create your own lobby and be the good guy ๐