td2-general-chat

[obtuse sequoia]

😭

[jagged prism]

what have you tried so far? log off and back in?

[unique summit]

how exactly are you trying to matchmake for it?

there are a couple ways to do it

[obtuse sequoia]

omfg I'm a dumbass my matchmaking for conflict was on

no wonder i couldn't match make for countdown

[jagged prism]

🤣 😆 😂

[unique summit]

the industry term for that is PEBKAC

[jagged prism]

didn't you know? it's the new game made. PvP in Countdown map 😆

[unique summit]

dude that would actually be DOPE

2v8 but the 2 players get a bunch of buffs

[jagged prism]

8v8 trying to compete doing the mechanics in the map?

[unique summit]

2 people with highest score on the 8 team side go on the 2 team side next round

[obtuse sequoia]

if they do that that would be alright

[unique summit]

no sorta like those zombie multiplayer games where a few people get to be humans with powerful gear and everyone else is a zombie hoard

one cool one i played was where when the zombies kill you then you become a zombie too. so it turns into last man standing for the human side.

dude that game mode would be SO cool. 2 player hunters vs 8+ normal agents

player hunters get like 400% AWD or something

[covert sphinx]

ewok hunt be like

[ancient lance]

Are you still able to obtain the old AK variant of the kingbreaker

[agile pendant]

what do you mean??

[broken solstice]

no it looks like what it looks like now. no going back

[vagrant sigil]

Why am I constantly getting a bug where I can't shoot any of my weapons aimed skills for like 1 minute randomly every few minutes now?

[ancient lance]

sad days I don’t like the new 1

[broken solstice]

yeah it took some getting used to

[ancient lance]

I swear they nerfed heartbreaker

I get little to no bonus armor

It gets out shot

[small spear]

no, it's just armor being like that in pve

[agile pendant]

use the shield, it'll make you extra tanky with heartbreaker. also some npcs like hunters can 2tap 90% of player builds

[kind veldt]

were you using with a chest or backpack of the set that gave more armor?

[lone valve]

Any bonus armor is good armor
It's more about you making use out of it

But tbh the way I run HB is more of a Tech Tank than anything else

[frozen meadow]

im gonna record my whack tank healer build

[tawdry bramble]

y’all quick question;

let’s say I’m not really playing online, but I’m still actively working on builds, is there a solid way of farming for exotics without just doing countdown on challenging with everyone?

[frozen meadow]

summit

[kind veldt]

projects

[idle coral]

sry i know its the wrong place, but can any dps come help us kill the last incursion boss pls? 😅

[jagged prism]

global events when they're active

[vagrant sigil]

anyone see where Backpacks are on the target loot pool currently -- seems its passed over?

[real creek]

Too many gear sets/brands/weapons and all that for everything to be on the map everyday. Countdown and summit allow you to select targeted loot.

[vagrant sigil]

Aye, was just wondering if I was blind.

[small magnet]

bruh had a 2 man clan crew sandbag my extraction lmao

just running vomit SMG builds

Imagine needing 2 people and a SMG vomit built to take on one dude alone because you dookie

[frozen meadow]

i just soloed heroic cd

start to end

[small magnet]

I stand corrected

its THREE of them

Clan NMC really running 3 people with vomit SMG builds and going after literally anyone even if they dont have contaminated gear on them lmao

lmao theyre all running Capacitor

[kind veldt]

Thats just how it is

[frozen meadow]

@kind veldt i soloed heroic cd

[small magnet]

it be like that sometimes I guess tbh lol

[kind veldt]

Good for you

[fervent hare]

Can someone fill me in….. been running the new incursion all week and I was able to open the chest at the end for my first clear Monday but I haven been able to since. I thought reset was Tuesday or Thursday

[kind veldt]

Reset has not been fixed

Should be your next monday

[fervent hare]

Well dam . Thanks for the response at least I know. I can confirm the drop rate for boss kills for the oro is extremely low. I’ve ran that thing about 30-40 times in the past 4 days and not a single one dropped.

[kind veldt]

Its 1%

Kinda copy pasted from raids people already knew

[fervent hare]

Feels like it

[frozen meadow]

`Players who opened the chest on the TU19 version (from Oct. 3rd to Oct. 16th) and are still experiencing the initial issue will need to wait until the exact same day they first played the Incursion on in order to open the chest again. For example, if the chest was first opened on a Friday, it will reset on the following Friday.

However, for those who opened the chest for the first time on TU19.1 starting from Oct. 17th, everything should already be functioning as intended.`

[small magnet]

lmao the 3 people running a pvp train in DZ East ended VOIPing wiht me

I was like "damn 3v1 thats wild lmao"

and they asked if I wanna 1v1 so i was like sure, but they were running purpose built DZ stuff and I obviously wasnt. So we ended up just chatting for a bit and they gave me advice to grind for gear

Love chill interactions like that

I was told to give Countdown a go

[kind veldt]

countdown is the most effective farm probably

[small magnet]

Word, going for a Hard matchmake on Countdown then, will see how this goes

[kind veldt]

challenging is the way to go

enemies are not hard and strenght in numbers of hte mode make everything pretty easy

[small magnet]

ty for the advice, just got matchmade into my first Countdown 😄

[small magnet]

holy crap that was fun as hell

[wet island]

Countdown is great, definitely wish i got into it sooner. Don't forget you can choose your loot!!

[small magnet]

wait what?! How do you do that?? I just picked up whatever loot I found that dropped or was in loot crates

[wet island]

Let me get back in count down see what its under

You click on the map thingy i know that much

[kind veldt]

you can select the targetted loot type

[wet island]

Yeah that

[small magnet]

Word

Damn, I got a Commando sniper with all 3 attributes orange background

[wet island]

Like type weapons gear mask etc, I'm not great explaining you'll see it. Look fast and run, lol.

[small magnet]

Word

[wet island]

Still wait on full group rn

[azure lintel]

Bruh me and my brother was trying to give this guy a exotic in dark zone and he decided to turn rogue on us when we was in our menus and he still failed. When I came of my menu I had pretty much no armour or health and he had full armour and a stinger hive down and I turned around and killed him

[ancient lance]

Mfs really need matchmaking or sum for dz absolutely ridiculous you might aswell not even enter if under 1000 shd high lvls just go rogue shoot ya in ur back n take ur shit

[kind veldt]

they dont even want your stuff most fo the time

they want PVP but not really

[ancient lance]

Well 4 days of grinding for imperial guard double regen knees

[azure lintel]

Agreed. The guy literally tried to kill me not my brother because I was the highest level

[ancient lance]

To get 1 tapped by someone 4x my lvl

[frozen meadow]

i feel embarassed to admit i soloed heroic countdown

[azure lintel]

And I gotta admit I'm impressed I'm flabbergasted

[ancient lance]

Games catchin a delete frfr been no lifing this shit for 8 weeks 14+ hours a day

[frozen meadow]

Is this sarcastic

[azure lintel]

No, why would it be?

[frozen meadow]

If you're acting like it's a huge achievement it's not

Because I afked the whole thing

[azure lintel]

Honestly idk how you soled it then

[frozen meadow]

because i extracted

[azure lintel]

Fair enough then

I thought if you didn't do atleast 2 objectives it just fails you

[frozen meadow]

It does but you still have to extract

I didn't get any credits even tho I extracted

[azure lintel]

Ah okay that makes sense fair enough

[agile pendant]

it does fail buy you still have to extract like eevee said

its funny mechanic

[twilit stag]

shock and awe talent procs from scorpio? applying a status increases skill damage and repair by 20%

[small spear]

yeah

[jagged prism]

kind of sad that Status Effects doesn't increase the duration or damage the status effects it applies though 😢

[small spear]

that's the only thing keeping it balanced rn

[faint umbra]

It does to a point added status effect on builds increases the duration of a status you inflict onto enemy. So making status have longer duration makes it do more damage/cc compared to its normal duration.

[cerulean echo]

is there a way to obtain St. Elmo's Engine now?

[rich shadow]

AR targeted loot

Countdown for example

[prisma flicker]

10k countdown credits built up & 200+ craft attempts later, I finally got my unicorn Hasburg backpack lol

[full zinc]

Very nice!
Habs is a hard farm

[limber steppe]

is wright fixed with scorpio and elmo ?

[idle pelican]

elmo fine scorpio not

[prisma flicker]

Time to find the Chest!

[full zinc]

Both weapons are listed on the trello board as causing the issue.

[sterile ferry]

ive used elmo on wright with no issues

[full zinc]

and? its still on the board. there must have been some reported issues with both, otherwise it would just list scorpio.

[jagged prism]

yeah i understand that, but i'm pretty sure people tested it and status effects on your gear doesn't do squat for Scorpio

[full zinc]

scorpio status is pellet based, like how many actual hits

[vale rune]

Hello i Wonder if i Can see what gear i have not equiped i mean 15 slots ×6. The rest i would delete, maybe delete more then one build of the same gear brand?

[full zinc]

you mean like what just sits on your bag and you never use?

[vale rune]

Hmmm inventory, only gear i use. I can only sees my euquiped gear. I want to remove all gear i dont use . I use fountry, heartbreaker but want to delete rest

Example

[full zinc]

its not usually a good idea to delete something unless its really easy to farm or its just a bad piece. chances are you will end up wanting some of the pieces down the road.

if you have stuff youre not using its better to send to the stash. you can send entire loadouts to the stash by using inventory > loadout > options > send to stash
you can send individual items by accessing the stash itself and inventory > select item > move to stash

otherwise is you truly want to delete something youll have to make sure it isnt marked as favorite. then you either mark as junk then hold tab to deconstruct or select item> options > deconstruct

[vale rune]

Thank you i try send to stash

[modern vapor]

I was at du arena courtyard and the named enemy dissapeared did I leave it too long ?

[small spear]

no it does not. it purely scales off number of pellets landed

[spiral hedge]

Anyone know where to farm Bighorn. Exotic?

[fluid meadow]

Either legendary missions or legendary summit

Dz is an option but very rare to the point where it isn't worth it

[brisk atlas]

slow mode

[brisk atlas]

district union legendary is the best place

[fluid meadow]

Not sure if AR targeted loot affects it or not

[hybrid ore]

Bighorn is not effected by Targeted Loot, no.

since it only drops from the Named Enemies on Legendary. (including Hunters)

[fluid meadow]

Floor 10 legendary?

[hybrid ore]

Any Named Enemy on Legendary.

[fluid meadow]

You only meet named enemies on the last part of a legendary mission but floor 10 you can spam it pretty much

[hybrid ore]

I'm still a fan of the Floor 100 farm, since you have the first room, and then the Hunters as well.

[fluid meadow]

Hunters aren't named tho?

Ah you included hunters

[hybrid ore]

One important distinction that the game makes for reasons.
The Hunters in Countdown do not count as Named, they count as Black Tusk Elite. But Hunters elsewhere count as Named.

[frozen meadow]

Does the Coney one count? I don't think it does iirc

[frozen meadow]

Coney one is

[leaden sleet]

Is there a channel that recruit ppl for game?

[fluid meadow]

Not legendary

[lone valve]

Got a catharsis from my first cp today lol
Not even mask TL 😂

[hybrid ore]

@leaden sleet For a clan or just playing?

[whole hull]

#BuffHunters

[small magnet]

God Countdown was fun.

I just watched yellow bars spawn and get turned into fireworks

[whole hull]

I want to play a round of countdown with the global event modifiers on it

[hybrid ore]

Now there's a calendar if I ever heard of one.

[whole hull]

I think countdown would be fun being able to try those modifiers

[whole hull]

A calender?

I am confused

[leaden sleet]

nobody is playing in my clan so i am looking for a new one

and i started playing again , made myself my build etc

but nobody to play with

[hybrid ore]

In that case you're looking for #td2-clan-recruitment, gl Agent

[real creek]

LOL

[real creek]

You know the buff firemen calendars?

[whole hull]

Ohhh

Now to make it interesting is have the pictures tell a story

[crude plume]

does anyone know if there are plans to make all missed collectibles from the previous manhunts obtainable? with the new ability to replay manhunt finales from previous seasons we can only obtain those comms from the final mission of each manhunt but not the comms from the other missions a manhunt had. missing collectibles just makes my heart hurt

[sterile ferry]

yes, its planned for TU20. you can see it on the trello

[fiery cloud]

good weekend Everyone😆 👋

Hey LO5T, NUG, Local, Eevee, RIVENS,Souless

[kind veldt]

i was until i found out remnant 2 event is kinda bad

[crystal notch]

what remnant 2 event

[fiery cloud]

Ibelieve Bird is ttalking about the zombie event

[frozen meadow]

`hi

[crystal notch]

is there a DZ South trophey?

[kind veldt]

no talking about remnant 2

[sterile ferry]

yeah i think they all do

[kind veldt]

added a bunch of minibosses with random chance to appear that you get items so you can trade together with an weapon to get an alt version of the weapon

but rates are very low the kind people are playing for 6h and only finding one of them

and you need 10 to get a weapon

while the rewards will stay for you to get later this is with the "boosted rates" of the event

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[crude plume]

finally, a dream come true

[real creek]

sup.

[sterile ferry]

tell me about it. the only comms im missing are season 1 and descent

season 1 is just sitting there taunting me

[frozen meadow]

You can replay the manhunt y'know

[sterile ferry]

yeah but right now they dont drop comms

[frozen meadow]

Oh

[real creek]

Yeah that'll be added in like TU 20 I think it what it said.

[lone valve]

Yea they said on the SOTG that it was coming but wasn't ready for the launch of the season
So that's for s3

[real creek]

https://trello.com/c/vH22MOfa

[lone valve]

Yea tu20
That's most likely s3

With how they do their title update numbering

[real creek]

I guess I don't know what S3 is so I'm just gonna keep saying TU20.

[lone valve]

Y5S3

There

[real creek]

Yes letters and numbers.... Got it....

[hearty briar]

Season three.

Y5S3 would be Year 5, Season 3 for example

[frozen meadow]

There's three season threes

Four*

There's 1-4, 1-4 reruns, 1-3, then y5 1-4

I think

Did I miscount the 1-3

Which one is s11

[lone valve]

It's 3

9, 10, 11

[frozen meadow]

Nvm I didn't miscount

For some reason I thought we were on y5s3 lol

[lone valve]

We would be like almost 2 months way from it
If it wasn't 4 months long now

[real creek]

It's TU19.1 and that's how I'm always going to look at the game. By update not year season manhunt thingy ma bob.

[lone valve]

Yea but what I was saying is that tu20 will definitely coincide with year5s3
As that's how they've been doing it for the longest

[kind veldt]

full number = big content drop

[lone valve]

Basically

If they had to during a season they'd probably do 19.9 to not get to 20 lol

[real creek]

That's cool, I just never pay attention to seasons exactly, manhunt and story isn't really of interest so I have no idea what season we are in. I just know about the game updates.

This game is def one of those "I have no idea what's going on with the story, gun go brrrrr."

[lone valve]

For some yea
I enjoy knowing whats happening every season with the story

[crystal notch]

oh huh i got memento

[fickle edge]

For exuro do you use status effects or skill damage?

[real creek]

Status effect.

[kind veldt]

i think this one skill damage might be better because of some odd interaction with flame turret

#td2-general-chat message

[small spear]

it's not just flame turret, it applies to any skill, but it doesn't mean skill damage is worth it over status effects, to maximize damage you run both but if you had to pick one you pick status effects

[wintry wraith]

ur skill damage

[tight cipher]

isn't there channels in this server anymore ? or my discord is bugging

[small spear]

ur affecting my status

[wintry wraith]

aint my fault u lack of haste

[small spear]

😔

[wintry wraith]

lol score 1 for fexxy

[twilit stag]

Almost full healer with a tiny bit of weapon damage is totally my gameplay style c: i know most people like Speed but im the sort of person that would rather never die than completing things fast, why use cover when healing hive wont let me die c:

[wintry wraith]

i mean, u wont die if u kill them faster lol

[twilit stag]

the room for error is almost non existent

[small spear]

also if you're getting bombarded and lose your one-shot protection, healing isn't gonna help

FI is a good healer set because it also buffs damage, not because it heals, the healing is very synergistic towards that buffing though

[twilit stag]

I didnt knew there was one shot protection 🤩

[small spear]

teleport towards some npc in the open world and watch your hp stay at 1 for around 3s before you actually die

[wintry wraith]

^

healing is good for groups, for solo content, ur gonna send years on 1 content u prob could of done in 5 mins with a dps build lol

[small spear]

aside from some portions of IH where it's mandatory to use a tank, most high level play run little armor and relies on one-shot protection to survive

[lone valve]

The fire waiting for ur one shot protection to vanish

[wintry wraith]

should i get a bagel with cream cheese or a bacon egg and cheese sandwich? cant decide...

[kind veldt]

HF lets you cheese a lot of one shot protection

[small spear]

HF doesn't refresh it

[twilit stag]

I've been thinking, what's a good weapon for a healer, i mean sure capacitor has the yellow core damage bonus, but what about backfire 🤔 has a good amount of crit chance because smg but also the talent increases the crit damage and the negatives are mitigated by healing myself

[lone valve]

Scorpio

[small spear]

it's always 30s unless you go down which refreshes it

[kind veldt]

doesnt it refresh after you get to max health and armor?

[small spear]

no

it's a simple test you can do yourself

[kind veldt]

guess it's just me being used to using zero fucks on HF

[small spear]

figuring out it is 30s is hard though

[wintry wraith]

imagine a exotic that increase its damage base on the amount of armor u healed lol

[real creek]

Gets OSP waits okay pls shoot me now boys.

[lone valve]

Give us caduceus back

[small spear]

scorpio because it has synergy with opportunistic and has damage taken debuffing on 7th stack

[full zinc]

Both. Fire double dips status effects and skill damage

[kind veldt]

honestly cant tell if people just forget dr home exists or not

[small spear]

🤣

[lone valve]

Doesn't exist wake up

[tulip moon]

wtb 8man premade these randoms are killing me

[twilit stag]

what's the main advantage of BTSU gloves? the hive haste or the OC every 2 minutes, i dont understand the refresh part of the talent c:

[small spear]

the OC

[kind veldt]

overclock on demand generally

[opal radish]

the teamwide oc and the hive haste is a bonus

[twilit stag]

how do i know when to use the OC

[opal radish]

if skills are on cooldown for you and your allies they come back instntly

[opal radish]

from experience

[upbeat harbor]

has anyone else found the gate key in the incurstion if so whats it for ?

found a secret puzzle type thing and at the end there was a key labeled "Gate Key"

[fickle edge]

do i do half and half?

[real creek]

If people are running it randomly during normal play I'd say opening fights up is the best and the other option to to refresh peoples reviver hives.

[minor bluff]

Do suppressors actually work?

[real creek]

There is no stealth in this game.

[full zinc]

Use status effects, then any where you can, add skill damage. Also use cap if not for another 60% sd

[real creek]

They purely give you stats.

[minor bluff]

Ah

That sucks

😔

When should I start the dlc

After rose island?

Or after I capture the level 30 base

[wintry wraith]

now i want a exotic sniper that makes u invisible when ur scoped in lol

[magic atlas]

Patience and time

[frozen meadow]

Should I try to beat rotorblitz's solo CD time

[crystal notch]

CD?

[frozen meadow]

countdown

[hybrid ore]

Eevee is asking if they should try and record an album on CD faster, and I vote yes.

[frozen meadow]

No

[hybrid ore]

You can do it Eevee, I believe in you.

[frozen meadow]

Lol

[timber hatch]

I believe in rotor

[frozen meadow]

Bruh 😭

[iron gust]

I don't think he plays the game anymore lol

[magic atlas]

Fine but only use an unregistered hypercam 2 to record it

[frozen meadow]

No

I already soloed it yesterday I just need to solo it faster

[iron gust]

Actually he still does lol

[small spear]

i too believe in our lord and savior RotorBlitz.

[frozen meadow]

Why does nobody believe in me 😭

[iron gust]

Solo heroic?

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[hybrid ore]

I believe in you eevee.

[frozen meadow]

Yay

[crystal notch]

i believe in you

[hybrid ore]

but recording studios are really expensive, how are you going to fund it?

[small spear]

you need more villains to be motivated

lmfao rivens

[frozen meadow]

Rivens I swear

[crystal notch]

i wonder what genre will the CD be in

[frozen meadow]

Speedcore is what I mostly listen to

[hybrid ore]

luv ya too eevee
"lo-fi beats to study and relax to"

[frozen meadow]

Speedcore hardcore and hardtek

[lone valve]

Think making it a vinyl would hold more value
CDs aren't cool anymore

[frozen meadow]

Vinyl*

[lone valve]

Oops

My autocorrect didn't come clutch

[frozen meadow]

Vinyl trying to play speedcore... Oh my god that wouldn't work

It would catch fire

[whole hull]

Me next

[frozen meadow]

Extratone it would collapse the universe

[broken solstice]

lol what? the rpm on the record doesnt go up with the tempo of the music

[lone valve]

Give it a rof boost

[frozen meadow]

It would have to if it's extratone level of bpm

[lone valve]

Maybe roll some rof on it

[broken solstice]

oh yea

[frozen meadow]

Speedcore maybe a bit

Extratone it'd be spinning mach 3

[kind veldt]

nightcore gang rise up

[frozen meadow]

Nightcore isn't a genre

[kind veldt]

i know

since it's just slighty speed up and tone changed

but trying to see someone make a nightcore using a vinyl would be funny

[frozen meadow]

I used to listen to Nightcore but it was too slow so I popped it on 1.5x speed

My fav speedcore songs are at least 350bpm

[crystal notch]

dear god

[frozen meadow]

Kobaryo+Gram - Dies Irae

Take a listen

[crystal notch]

i am sadly not a nightcore fan at all

[frozen meadow]

It's speedcore not Nightcore

[crystal notch]

what the hell is speedcore

[kind veldt]

when you speedrun a music

[frozen meadow]

uhh

Yeah I guess that's the best wording for it?

[frozen meadow]

Listen to that song I mentioned and you'll understand really quick

[kind veldt]

ah metnioned it's just increasing speed of music to create high BPM

[frozen meadow]

It's hardcore hardcore

[full zinc]

no, just no. Seizure inducing 🤣

[frozen meadow]

You listened to it?

[minor bluff]

Nightcore mid

2012 😭

I thought everyone stopped listening to them

[frozen meadow]

Nightcore is speedcore but worse in very single way

[full zinc]

Yeah, for about 10 seconds.

[wintry wraith]

dont u love it when u order food, and they forgot the fucking straw >:(

[kind veldt]

well said mostly a joke

nothing against it

[frozen meadow]

That's the type of song I listen to doing schoolwork

[full zinc]

I couldn't

[pliant sentinel]

yeah i agree with eevee now

[crystal notch]

thats the kind of song you'll hear in geometry dash

[kind veldt]

since osmehow i bounced back to more slowed down music but still like eletronic, no clue what genre that is but i htink it's not lo-fi

[wintry wraith]

cznt listen to music when doing home work lol

[frozen meadow]

Worse

Geometry dash is too easy a game for it to be in

You'll see it in things like OSU and adofai

[crystal notch]

what's adofai?

[frozen meadow]

A dance of fire and ice

[crystal notch]

ah, how could i not know that, its obvious

[frozen meadow]

There's one song a bit slower than dies Irae in terms of chaos but someone one a few thousand beating it on a rhythm game

Kurokotei - Scattered Faith

Basically the sequel song to Galaxy Collapse, which is notoriously one of the hardest songs to beat on any rhythm game

I still have a clip of me beating galaxy collapse a few years ago

Basically I developed an energy response whenever BPM kicks in

[pliant sentinel]

what build should i run with my ouroboros (sponsored)

[frozen meadow]

I run striker but just swap the Ceska for FP

[pliant sentinel]

fp?

all my mats gone

just to upgrade this bad boy

[lone valve]

For a future perfect chest brand
It's a new secret brand

[broken solstice]

permanent overcharge

[lone valve]

Striker and HF work well

[hybrid ore]

sponsored?

Also, that better be "striker or hunters fury".

[lone valve]

Both at the same time obviously

[small spear]

2p HF for the smg bonus, clearly a big win

[magic atlas]

It's becoming the new mememto

[lone valve]

It's a new feature
You can have 2 different gear pieces in the same slot

[broken solstice]

that used to be true with ninjabike bag

[hybrid ore]

I'm just picturing your Agent as that scene in Friends where Joey wears all of Chandler's clothes.

[lone valve]

One chest piece over another double kneepads double gloves
That double backpack gonna look huge

Alot of baggage stored in it

[hybrid ore]

At least we're well versed in double-masking by now.

[lone valve]

Lol

[kind veldt]

extra layers, cant let our agents get a cold in the eternal summer

[pliant sentinel]

hmmm

maybe i should try HF with ouro

[lone valve]

HF is my go to for anything open world

[twilit stag]

i think i got an interesting idea for a open world solo build c: 3 red cores, 2 blue, and 6 yellow c:

[pliant sentinel]

my open world solo build is the classic reds with devils due

since everything dies quickly i can get my armor back p quickly

[crystal notch]

how would you do that?

[ornate agate]

When does the next season start?

[broken solstice]

with memento and picaros (and another brazos probably)

[sterile ferry]

bro this one just began

[crystal notch]

in 14 weeks or so

[crystal notch]

not ninjabyke picaros?

[sterile ferry]

ninja and picaro would give one additional yellow

[broken solstice]

no. bc with full memento stacks thats +2 red cores

so technically i have a build that with full memento stacks has 6 red 6 yellow 1 blue

[ornate agate]

I just came back from a long break that i took towards the end year 4 I didn't know how long this season had been going my bad

[ornate agate]

Okay thanks my brother wants to max his pass this seasons but has a broken arm I was gonna do some grinding on his account to help but if he has 14 weeks he should have time after his arm heals

[pliant sentinel]

whens the next manhunt target again

[crystal notch]

3 days or so

[pliant sentinel]

next vendor reset i guess

[crystal notch]

i don't even know who we're saving, i forgot most of the div2 characters during the 2 years break:(

[sterile ferry]

i think Mel is a brand new character, the rest are returning.
cindy has always been there through the story but she was heavily featured in coney island missions which takes place right before wony
jack arnold is the jtf girl we rescue in kenly college
vik was featured in 2 side missions, he fucked us over to hyenas

[crystal notch]

oh, that explains Vikram Malik rings a bell now

[ornate agate]

Im just happy to be getting actual content again not just manhunts especially hype for heartland and division 3 even tho I know those aren't gonna be ready for awhile

[fair lake]

Are we going to spank Vikram? 👀

[crystal notch]

when will we be able to visit kenleys college again? i haven't done it but it seems to be unavailable rn

[sterile ferry]

i hope we get to kill him, im still salty about that betrayal

[crystal notch]

what did he do exactly?

[sterile ferry]

kenley is available for 1 week and then unavailable for 3 weeks. this season it seems to be 4

[sterile ferry]

he betrayed us by revealing our location to hyenas

[kind veldt]

division memorable characters come from theri voice lines being stuck on us from doing the same mission too much

[ornate agate]

They should just leave it available tbh I don't get restricting when we can play it

[kind veldt]

and less from the writting i feel

[crystal notch]

man I really should replay the campaign all over again . not like i have anything better to do:(

[ornate agate]

I used to make new agents just for fun probably played through the campaign 3 or 4 times

[crystal notch]

what stuff even carries over to new agents? just cosmetics or blueprints too?)

[sterile ferry]

cosmetics yes, blueprints only if you want

[ornate agate]

Not sure I know shd levels do after the wony

[crystal notch]

"only if you want"? huh?

[fiery cloud]

you gotta pay for the ability to share

[sterile ferry]

once you reach level 30 world tier 2, you have the option to go to the crafting vendor and purchase the following items:
shared materials - shares materials with all characters who have this item purchased also
shared blueprints - shares blueprints with all characters who have this item purchased also

[crystal notch]

oh

[fiery cloud]

its not much

[broken solstice]

what about recal library? i cant remember

[sterile ferry]

thats always shared similar to cosmetics

[broken solstice]

right right thanks

[lone valve]

Expertise 16 at last
I now remember why I stopped doing countdown expertise farming

This shit is mind numbing

[unique summit]

yea it's less painful if you just occasionally donate

obv not as fast but all we have is time 🤷‍♂️

i'm at lvl 17 and just sorta got there

[lone valve]

From 10 to 15 that's what I did

[unique summit]

with like 1500 hrs of playtime

[lone valve]

I need to donate Alot of improvised gear
That's an easy one to get done too

[broken solstice]

when its down to skills, exotics and named items. sucks

[sterile ferry]

for those just donate filaments

[broken solstice]

yeah im gonna wony for those

[kind veldt]

i was actually playing around with certain bad skills

[sterile ferry]

during a warlords run you can get one level on the skills youre running

saves some mats

[kind veldt]

was funny to use healing trap to heal myself and firefly in the same build

[crystal notch]

firefly? just why

[tulip moon]

Why the f*** is every single one of my countdown runs on an Asian server? Even when I host the lobby, it's still on an Asian server. I'm losing my mind!? 🔫

[real creek]

Secret asian man.

[tulip moon]

trash game i swear

[sterile ferry]

can ALL spec pistols be earned in descent or just a few? i know its a bug but i just got diceros special from a rec cache lol

[real creek]

I think it's all of them I'm gonna wait to run descet until that's fixed lol.

[exotic blaze]

I keep getting those, I just want the setup blueprint lol

[brazen marlin]

I'm somewhat new and I forgot how I can get the St Elmo's Engine now, already level 40 with a whatever the f- build to just give me an easier time

[reef reef]

Targeted loot Assault Rifles, or any place that gives you exotic caches. Countdown has selectable target loot, and drops a bunch of loot in general and gives you currency to buy exotic caches, so i'd start there.

[brazen marlin]

I don't have live gold or anything so ig* summit farm time

[shrewd cosmos]

I got two st Elmo's in just one countdown run, definite what aspect said. Targeted loot as AR on countdown

[reef reef]

yea that sucks then, countdown is genuinely so much better for that kinda stuff

[brazen marlin]

Ikr

[shrewd cosmos]

Summit works too!

[brazen marlin]

Kinda sucks that division a heavily team based game needs gold to play w/others while stuff like Roblox or Warframe doesn't

[reef reef]

iirc any paid game needs gold to play online while free games can be played online for free

[brazen marlin]

That's bs, I get it "we gotta earn money" but come on

[reef reef]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[full zinc]

not an issue on pc , js

[shrewd cosmos]

I've been switching over to PC ever since PSN prices went up. Crazy to have to pay a subscription to use my paid Internet. At least Uplay and steam are free to use for coop.

[twilit stag]

when did psn prices went up 🤔

[exotic blaze]

Last month

[lone valve]

It's microsofts and sonys fault there'd be no way they'd make div 2 free just so people didn't have to pay to play with other people

[exotic blaze]

Well the annoucement for it, should be going up in november

[brazen marlin]

On the other hand ChatterBox feels really nice and every new lvl 40 player should get it ngl

Kinda hard* carrying my arse

[small spear]

eh it falls off hard in heroic and above

[lone valve]

He says new so it's fine for him to use it for now
Wouldn't even recommend heroic if ur new without a proper build set up

[small spear]

no, he's saying "every new lvl 40 player"

not every new lvl 40 player will want to use a weapon that becomes obsolete when chasing gear with higher rolls, but sure it does work in lower difficulty content like league

[full zinc]

never know when oxi builds with chatter spamming will come back into center stage 🤞

[small spear]

yeah it's useful for oxi too

[lone valve]

It's a good weapon to use while chasing the better gear /weapons as a new player

[small spear]

you know what else new players can use?

a crafted famas or police m4

[lone valve]

But they prefer the exotic allure

[small spear]

you get them straight out the gate

[full zinc]

👆

[lone valve]

I'm not saying they are right I'm just saying it happens Alot
Before elmos I used to see so many new players run chameleon
Why, cuz it's a easy exotic to get

And probably their first exotic

[small spear]

again, that doesn't mean it's not something i won't comment on, because there are better options

[brazen marlin]

Floor 10 finally, should I try to farm mememto or At Elmo's

[small spear]

being an exotic offers it no advantage

[magic atlas]

I've seen far more generic shield memento builds than chameleons.

[lone valve]

Now you don't see chameleon that much
Cuz elmos exists

And everyone and their mother comes in asking how to get st elmos when they are new

[small spear]

elmo i don't mind because it's leaps and bounds better than cham or chatter at killing stuff

[lone valve]

Oh yea

[kind veldt]

still see plenty of people using chameleon

but i think it's due their own personal bias towards it

brain going "vector bug big"

[twilit stag]

idk why lately i see a lot of people using bullet king 🗿

its a cool concept of a gun, never reloading sounds nice but is annoying to use and doesnt do too much damage 💀

[small spear]

they tunnel vision on the fact that it doesn't reload

[lone valve]

If how good a gun was based on its looks it'd win tbh
It also has a satisfying sound
They need a exotic balance pass

[small spear]

but then not realizing that that alone doesn't make it better than weapons that do reload

[twilit stag]

i actually prefer bluescreen if i have to use an LMG, feels good, has free aoe cc, reload is quick ish for an lmg

[lone valve]

Another extremely easy exotic to get tbh

And they go well it doesn't need to reload so it must be good

I used to run bullet King back when I didn't know much about the game
Not ashamed to admit it 😭

[twilit stag]

i tried it but i couldnt like how it felt, i think my first exotic weapon was the capacitor

doing summit

[lone valve]

Yea that's easy as hell to get

Cuz of the challenges it's tied to

[small spear]

it's okay, some of my friends fell for it too

they did get shown the way in the end

[lone valve]

I think we've all been there where we didn't know much about the game and just thought something they thought was a very good weapon wasn't that good

(I used to think measured was good)
I actively ran the apartment lmao

[unique summit]

there’s a talent for the gr9 that basically makes it a better BK

[small spear]

gr9 steady handed my beloved

[neon wyvern]

stabilizes older better brother

[unique summit]

great for those spongey ornithopters

[kind veldt]

i still remember that gif of 4 people shooting max striker bulletking at legendary capitol healing boxes and not killing the thing

man it was busted

[twilit stag]

imma do incursions this weekend and hoping some kind soul with already a perfect ouro decides to drop it for me 🥹

[lone valve]

Yea here's the thing
They might not be able to open the chest

If they haven't reached their reset day

But I had someone in a group that already had it get it from a boss drop and drop it to someone that was new

[reef reef]

still mad @covert sphinx got it on his first run

[covert sphinx]

xdxd

[oak prawn]

Rng was on his side

[covert sphinx]

yeah it was

[velvet walrus]

can you only loot the new incursion once a week?

[frozen meadow]

The end chest yes

[velvet walrus]

ahh so you can only farm the bosses?#

[kind veldt]

bosses cna also drop the gun

[frozen meadow]

That's how I got mine

[velvet walrus]

is it per acc or per character

[frozen meadow]

Per character

[velvet walrus]

nice. i want it so bad

[frozen meadow]

I got it from Johnson on like my 10th run

[velvet walrus]

ahh not too bad could be worse

wanna run it?

[frozen meadow]

At work so can't

[velvet walrus]

ok

[kind veldt]

it's 1% drop

also got it from johnson and the second one from wright so it can be any of the bosses

[frozen meadow]

I got the 1% yeet

[kind veldt]

and if the people want to share

it turns into 16% chance

[oak prawn]

whos gonna share ?

[kind veldt]

other people who already have it?

[oak prawn]

not everyone will

[lone valve]

That goes for everything in this game

[frozen meadow]

That's not how rng works

[kind veldt]

well 1% from bosses x4 and if everyone agrees to share it's x4

and i did say if

[frozen meadow]

That's not really how it works

Just because 4 people have a 1% chance doesn't mean it's a 1/25 chance of getting it

[small spear]

that would be 1 - 0.99^4

[shrewd cosmos]

What would you do to figure it out? Time to complete ÷ 0.01, then multiply by 4 or 16 to determine some estimated time to obtain it?

[small spear]

time to complete doesn't affect chance

[shrewd cosmos]

Chance seems kind of useless then

I guess I'm wondering how many runs on average to get the boss drop

[jagged prism]

probably a lot or a little depending on lootcifer i'd guess

[shrewd cosmos]

Praise be 🛐

[small spear]

just 1 / chance to drop per run

[shrewd cosmos]

100?

[small spear]

that gives you the average number of runs, then figure out how much time a run takes on average

[shrewd cosmos]

Or ummm 25?

[small spear]

multiply by that and you get the rough time it takes to get it

from what I've heard ouroboros isn't the only exotic that drops in the "1% per boss" chance, so the real chance is even lower

[shrewd cosmos]

Yikes lol

I wonder if it is 1% after considering that then

[jagged prism]

nods think they learned from Anderson

[shrewd cosmos]

Like chance to drop exotic is 10% but it then needs to roll the exotics to see which it will be?

[small spear]

yes

[shrewd cosmos]

Oof

[jagged prism]

10% from the box once a week

[broken solstice]

i got it on my second run. i feel like i'll probably get it again on my next

[shrewd cosmos]

Welp, guess I'll just play the game and enjoy it, then be happy if I get it 👍

[lone valve]

I had to resort to my 3rd character to finally get it

[shrewd cosmos]

My fastest run is 15 mins so far. I'm wondering if I can find a team to get it sub 10

[small spear]

don't stress it, if you only play the game to get it then once you get it you'll bore yourself out real quick. there's other stuff to enjoy too

[jagged prism]

besides if you're not in that much of a hurry, one day they'll probably set it as a general loot pool so you'd be able to just run SMG targeted loot and get it that way one day

[shrewd cosmos]

I think incursion is pretty fun to run 🙂

[jagged prism]

this is so true 😢 i got it and now i hardly play :/

[shrewd cosmos]

Funny they called it paradise lost. Contrary to falcon lost lol

[jagged prism]

i never thought of that 🤔 lol

[small spear]

i mean, you got the strongest gun in the game, you might as well do something with it. that's why i play hard content solo or with people nowadays

[lone valve]

Definitely a nod

[jagged prism]

i honestly forget what Falcon Lost was like

[jagged prism]

i keep falling on running it with Strikers and Perfect Clutch and feel it's underwhelming

🤔 wondering if i should try a Hunter's Fury build with it in some aspect

[broken solstice]

of course you should try it with HF

[lone valve]

I did Alot of grinding on the apparel event and even tough oreo is very fun
Tbh I'm kinda getting bored of the game again

And since the seasons are even longer now
Might aswell take a break and return when the final target is available

[jagged prism]

yeah, that's probably my problem. just trying to get as much as the nexus apparel event as possible atm

[lone valve]

I needed to get this cuz i couldn't possibly miss out on the cat ears and backpack

[jagged prism]

nods think i finished that outfit

[lone valve]

But like the upcoming Global events aren't that interesting to me
Until we get to golden bullet
And that's after the final target

Actually probably would need to come back to the game in December for the christmas event 🤔

[small spear]

you probably are trying to kill with it at 0 stacks, sure it builds stack fast but maybe acs would help you build them faster. other than that maybe playstyle issue?

[lone valve]

Works amazing with striker tbh
Doing incursions without it and with it was a night and day difference in dps

HF works great with it too

[lean fog]

Guys is the incursion weekly cache reset bug fixed? Can you guys still open the cache?

[kind veldt]

situation hasnt changed

and for perfect clutch i think negotiator works better

since your crits can kill stuff while you are shooting someone else so it procs at better than to heal better

[jagged prism]

depending on how you're understanding underwhelming i'd guess

[small spear]

underwhelming means not satisfied

[jagged prism]

feel like i tried it and still felt it wasn't fun

[small spear]

i mean, my two remaining brain cells interpreted it as "not killing stuff"

[jagged prism]

oh it kills things, just not fun kiling stuff

[small spear]

define "not fun"

[kind veldt]

thats the best way i found to use it

doesnt mean it was great tho

[small spear]

if you mean there's no fun because everything's dying too fast then that's fair

[lone valve]

Put oreo on HF and go YOLO on open world while you confuse every enemy around you

[jagged prism]

same here, think of other things and i'm like no point

[lone valve]

I find that fun

[small spear]

that's why i don't really want to go out of my way to get it

[lone valve]

But tbh oreo would be more fun if you know
The talent made any difference

[kind veldt]

clutch it was one of those made to not be great because it was previously a PVP meta headache

[jagged prism]

yeah, the whole ND + Zerk + Clutch right?

[lone valve]

Oh yea clutch used to be so busted lol

[kind veldt]

and demo and vector and etc

[jagged prism]

it's semi-busted with Oreo 😛

[lone valve]

Only oreo could bring back clutch to relevance

[jagged prism]

maybe it's the oreo talent that makes it feel lacking

[lone valve]

I agree with you there

[jagged prism]

like, oh hey! i got confused. shoot for a second and used up all charges :/

on one enemy

[lone valve]

Pretty sure the talent doesn't even scale with status effects so

[glass forge]

Has anyone gotten the st Elmo recently?

[jagged prism]

nope, only gotten it from the season

[small spear]

just farm AR targeted loot if you're looking for it

[glass forge]

Yeah I guess it’s time to go back to countdown target loot

[glass forge]

Countdown the best way ?

[small spear]

yeah

[jagged prism]

you buying them exotic caches too?

[heavy prism]

Have u tried chameleon

[glass forge]

From countdown ?

[small spear]

have you tried our boris or whatever the kids call it

[glass forge]

The chameleon is better than the st Elmo ?

[jagged prism]

i have, still not a fan of it

[small spear]

he's just asking to meme with me

[glass forge]

I have it already

[jagged prism]

yeah, might increase your chances a bit

[heavy prism]

Once u use chameleon everything else feel like gray weapon

[small spear]

have you tried ninjabike with gray gear

[lone valve]

Where's chameleon deconstructer at

[heavy prism]

I only tried with the kneepad

[jagged prism]

oh you spelt exotic component wrong

[small spear]

no chameleon best gun in game

[jagged prism]

yes, to turn into an exotic component

[heavy prism]

I deconstructed 10 ouro

[small spear]

based

ouro L

[jagged prism]

🍪 here's a cookie

[heavy prism]

@small spear carry me when

[small spear]

tmr if you're down, playing with nemesis

[heavy prism]

o

[small spear]

just gonna do legendaries

[kind veldt]

gonna say something stupid

[heavy prism]

Zoo tbh

[kind veldt]

but shouldnt chamaleon with striker be great for incursion or raid DPS?

[small spear]

that's good too

[jagged prism]

my opinion no because i feel you're already struggling doing damage with stacking it up then you're going to try and increase it with chameleon too another stacking mechanic

[heavy prism]

But the last time I tried aiming I missed 50% with determined 💀

[small spear]

with white death or d50

[heavy prism]

1886

[small spear]

oh

ngl determined made me miss more shots than it helped in these runs tbh

[heavy prism]

I still don't have a determined white death and d50 lol

[jagged prism]

didn't like last weeks clan vendor of white death?

[small spear]

time to farm

you assume he plays often nowadays 💀

[heavy prism]

Idk never felt a need for it

[heavy prism]

Played so often I can't hit body shots 💀

[jagged prism]

i wish my 4 hot shot 6 armor core was powerful but i'm not too happy with it :/

[small spear]

i mean, you lose too much damage

[jagged prism]

yeah, was hoping pure headshot would be strong enough with white death and determined, but it fails :/

[small spear]

you got any expertise?

[heavy prism]

I will never understand running blues on a sniper build tbh

[jagged prism]

not white death, i destroyed my previous drops for materials until a friend of mine was like "lost, this build + white death + determined!" and i was like oh my!

[small spear]

then you're looking at 2 vs 2.6 awd multiplier

[jagged prism]

oh was hoping to get a good amount of bonus armor from hotshot, but i think it's blah in general

[small spear]

you lose 25% damage, which is a big deal for hh

[heavy prism]

The whole idea of determined is you point at someone and they die, just press space and click people

[jagged prism]

the build was Ninja Bike Bag + a few select items that increases headshot damage and MMR damage. it's pretty strong once i tried it with Hunting m44 determined XD

[small spear]

compare that to the meta build right

[heavy prism]

Just run vigi

[small spear]

ninjabike means you're losing vig which is 25% damage straight off the bat, then you also use hunting m44 which is a smidge lower base damage than white death and you don't have the extra hsd, and you forgo 6 red on top of that

the bonus armor is there to protect against stagger if you have enough of it, and vigilance

[lone valve]

If you wanna have fun with bonus armor on sniper builds you use dread edict tbh

[jagged prism]

the build with ninja bag is totally different from my 6 amor core hotshot build

[small spear]

that's something you need to clarify

not having vigilance is a BIG loss

[heavy prism]

3p >> 4p imo

[kind veldt]

honestly dread edict + A&8 or hotshot lets you stack some good bonus armor

[small spear]

for dread edict ig 4p hotshot makes more sense

[lone valve]

Yea

[small spear]

but then i wouldn't use hh

[heavy prism]

That's a playstyle I don't and don't want to understand

[jagged prism]

basically this for the ninjabike bag buildhttps://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwWgDOIIyRew+cBcBWVCYSgZiQgJkVmWCPi2jHxuLGXMktpZOAE5M7ua0vWB4ZOwygo4nomSCW0ybKhyZS+UA

[small spear]

it's spam tap rather than hh alpha damage

[heavy prism]

M1a tbh

[small spear]

i mean yeah i wouldn't use it over m1a personally 💀 but it's not bad for people who like it

[jagged prism]

that build with hunting m44 and determined was one shotting warhounds O_O

[small spear]

that's not a high bar to clear tbh

they're very squishy without their armor plates

[jagged prism]

did this in PTS before Hotshot was released and was pretty impressive but it allowed for one to get to 2 billion damage with Perfect Focus

[small spear]

that's due to hotshot bug

[jagged prism]

it ignored armor

[heavy prism]

That's called damage glitching

[small spear]

i know that

the reason it worked was hh bonus ignored the de-amp on non-crit (90%)

[jagged prism]

yeah, was crazy XD

[kind veldt]

i would just say you were doing some hot numbers

[jagged prism]

then you could run around with any other weapon and it'd just transfer to it

[small spear]

the real health they had without armor is very little, so even if your hh build was a little thought out it would one shot them

[jagged prism]

i didn't think about using Regulus to see how it'd fair with the explosion and bleed though :/

[jagged prism]

not my build, friend came up with it, think shortly after Ninja Bag released

[small spear]

i know, i'm just saying any hh build that wasn't just gray gear

[jagged prism]

i was assuming it'd destroy the armor then i'd have to destroy it without the armor on it

[small spear]

nah, it aims for the non-existent heads of the dogs

but it also works without determined if you aim at the legs

[jagged prism]

also, was assuming like the chungas with helmets it'd just do that and destroy the helmet lol

was a pretty fun build

[kind veldt]

enemy health in 4 man heroic is like 1/5 of their armor

[small spear]

yeah, as long as you one shot the things you care about, that's alright

you only need to work on it once that stops happening

[jagged prism]

i'll have to toy around with the hotshot build a bit, maybe do away with the chest for the 100% bonus armor and go a different route

wish i could make sacrum useful in a build of some sort but i feel it's just a crappy exotic MMR compared to the others

[lone valve]

Yea cuz it's on a crappy MMR with garbage damage

[kind veldt]

i dont think that gun has salvation

it's based on one of the worst guns on the game nad kept all the worst traits

[lone valve]

Should've made a exotic
What's the name of the ekims long stick

The actual name of the gun
I'm drawing a blank

[kind veldt]

Model 700?

well the problem is that the only non shit semi auto sniper is the SVD, so dread edict work

all the other ones, MK 20 SRR, G28 and i think there is a third one, are all bad

[glass forge]

I just got the st Elmo thank you

[lone valve]

Quite like how it looks
But yea other than the svd the other semi auto snipers suck

This is why this game needs a weapon balance pass

Exotics included

[jagged prism]

i'd love a rework of all named items to proper brands

[kind veldt]

well honestly there are plenty of okay guns

might have like one or two bad ones in each category

like the semi auto snipers, double barrel, FAL, M16 and couple fo the 30 round magazine rifles, L85 and probably something else for the LMGs

well i dont feel like they are really going to ever touch those guns

so we are forever stuck with them

FAL simply has less magazine size without any extraordinary advantage which is a big issue when having extended mags are a must
tommy and thompson lake mods and overall accuracy making them despite good damage kind sucky at their job
semi auto snipers i already complained
M16 feels lackluster desptie the damage being buffed a couple of times, at least it doesnt feel like it's trying to give me carpal tunnel syndrome like the other 30 round rifles
L85 has the weird gimmick of being an AR in LMG category, stats just feel lack luster to sustain or burst damage

double barrel is a PVP nightmare, has the best accuracy with the worst range that to this day just boggles me so it will never ever be good

[rare vapor]

looks like you need a bigger garbage bag.

[jagged prism]

nods i feel we're stuck in general with what they've given us. watched a streamer try to make the named tommy with stabalize work but no matter what it seems to lack any damage

[kind veldt]

but thats what 9-10 guns out of 60-80?

most everything is good that works with the right stats and is harmless

just very few are the really bad ones

tommy doesnt lack damage but the lack of mods that improve stats is what kills it

[rare vapor]

you forgot to mention these weapons are better used for roleplaying

[kind veldt]

i mena people can do whatever with them, but these are the ones that does make question some stuff

dont get the hate the devs have for the FAL

[rare vapor]

I used FAL before, pretty fine. above average for dps even with less mag

[marsh hinge]

Could I get 3 agents to join me for this commendation for “teamwork” on Liberty Island? No point unless I get 3, so will wait to invite until I do. Will take less than 5 minutes of your time cause I’m sitting at the “Final Sequence” now.

[glass forge]

Is the white death in the loot pool?

[rare vapor]

yes

[halcyon radish]

FAL not like typical AR but works fine in certain build, I like how it differentiate from other ARs

[frozen meadow]

Anyone against a pfe bsb?

[unique summit]

nah that'd be cool. it would open up some more options for tanks.

[frozen meadow]

Just randomly came.to mind lol

Now what about bringing back DTE as a BSB

[unique summit]

not unless they give us more loadout slots

b/c you'd end up with very specific builds that utilize dte

and have to weigh those against more general purpose builds

[frozen meadow]

Fair

Well..

Tidal legendary

[unique summit]

tidal legendary is kind of an anamoly

compared to all the other missions

[frozen meadow]

Fair lol

[unique summit]

what i've always wanted was a build that can focus on med stations and drone ops

[frozen meadow]

Okay hear me out for a minute

[unique summit]

tidal legendary is one of the hardest ones to carry through imo

specifically the 2nd stage and 4th stage. nightmare.

not bc it's hard but bc it takes foreeeevvveerrrrr

[frozen meadow]

sorry phojne died

anyways

[unique summit]

i wish i had a tank-ish build that could run around and kill med stations, grenadier backpacks, and drone op backpacks

then you could run it with anyone

[frozen meadow]

1/3: +10% Protection From Elites
2/3: +10% Damage To Elites
3/3: -10% Oncoming Damage

[unique summit]

*Incoming

[frozen meadow]

same thing

[unique summit]

I feel like everyone would just run the 1pc only lol

Oncoming means coming soon, coming later

[frozen meadow]

oncoming means coming towards you

[unique summit]

Still weird but doesnt matter

[frozen meadow]

i just yoinked the definition from merrian-webbster so

[unique summit]

What if you swap 2/3 and 3/3

[frozen meadow]

no

3/3 too op for a 2 pc

[unique summit]

So... you'd run 1/3 and 2/3 as some sorta hybrid dps?

[frozen meadow]

possibly

[small spear]

i have safe carry strats for 4th stage, 2nd stage is kinda iffy though

4th stage if you can run first and hide under the right launchpad (where the purple controller + minitank are), you're pretty much safe

[frozen meadow]

Binoculars wdyt

[unique summit]

im going to try that. thanks!

[small spear]

i think this is too good for ubi devs to make but i can only hope

[frozen meadow]

is it that good tho?

[small spear]

it would be yeah, 2p is very valuable and would be an upgrade on high end builds

[frozen meadow]

you cant pair it with coyote and striker tho

[small spear]

that's why i said high end

because high end is kinda lagging behind gear set meta atm

[frozen meadow]

so would it be "too good"?

[small spear]

i think it would be "too good" but only on elites so it balances out, because the alternative would be to stack more crit and you already have too much on high end

you don't really use it on gear set builds anyway (maybe nego? but i still doubt) because crit is still more valuable

[frozen meadow]

I think it's actually surprisingly balanced lol

Idk about you but it seems like you're even weighing the pros and cons quite evenly

[frozen meadow]

What would we call it

[frozen meadow]

YouTubers tryna relevantize ninjabike again

[ornate agate]

Just had a countdown where 5 people left half way through you can guess how us remaining 3 faired

Think that's enough farming for tonight haha

[novel fjord]

is there a specialization that applies pulse? im finally going through a majority of my weapons that had max rolls since that my proficieny is almost max for mr ARs and subs

[ornate agate]

I don't think so but I might be wrong

[undone timber]

Well sharpshooter has a pulse drone

[ornate agate]

Pulse really isn't that useful if your not in pvp from I have seen so I have kinda ignored it cause pvp isn't my thing

Even than pulse resistance is something people that are really into pvp use

[hybrid ore]

What you're looking for is Technician (Rocket Launcher), and the underbarrel laser pointer.
That applies pulse.

[novel fjord]

oh ok gotcha i was just curious since i see the perk flatline on a lot of my guns

is that perk any good?

[undone timber]

You need it to proc flatline

That and the Achilles pulse is nice

[hybrid ore]

It's fantastic for DPS, easily one of the top choices.
If you want something fun, try using it on a build that also has Heartbreaker, since then the pulses also heal you too.

Headshots apply pulse 5s.
Weapon hits on pulsed enemies add and refreshes a stack of +1% bonus armor and +1% damage to pulsed enemies for 5s. Max stack is 50.
Two stacks are lost per second."```

[undone timber]

King breaker is pretty good

[novel fjord]

is king breaker a gun or a talent or like exotic what is it?

[undone timber]

Named tkb assault rifle

[hybrid ore]

My go-to with it is a Carbine-7, since it has accuracy but also still has the DPS to go through enemies like butter.

but the gun itself matters less than the rest of the build.

[undone timber]

Getting a dttooc c7 is annoying

[novel fjord]

ok gotcha ill be on the lookout for that one

[hybrid ore]

3 runs of Challenging Countdown, if it takes you more than that your RNG is cursed.
In the meantime, you can use the 37 Kingbreaker's that will give you.

[novel fjord]

also after levels and upgrading all the specialist is there a best one like all around good or is it just what you are in the mood/require

[undone timber]

Took me nearly two months to get a Scorpio way back when

[ornate agate]

Depends on the build you are running

[hybrid ore]

Specilisations are more about the bonuses that they give you than there being a "best" one.
tl;dr all are very good.

[novel fjord]

i will do that i just got every single gun and most armor that was not maxed out sub stats and put them into expertise

ok gotcha

ive just been running survivalist all the time the crossbow is fun

[undone timber]

Different specialisations for different purposes

[hybrid ore]

Exotics are absolutely a different matter, plus they seem to have fixed that "no exotics drop" glitch.

[undone timber]

Ah

[novel fjord]

ok awesome ill just jump betweem them all then im liking the crossbow and gunner and firewall

[undone timber]

Gunner and firewall are great choices for damage

[hybrid ore]

One little fun bonus the Crossbow has is that it will instantly remove the "chest plate" on heavy enemies, allowing you to do straight up health damage to that spot.
Incredibly useful.
just aim for the tummy.

[ornate agate]

Got 2 exotics farming countdown a few days so can confirm

[undone timber]

The amount of sweet dreams I was baited by when I was trying to get my scorpio

[hybrid ore]

Well, they are made of these.

[novel fjord]

i will keep that in mind i just like it beacuse call of duty and nostaligia in games when i see it

[undone timber]

🤣

[ornate agate]

Sticks and stones on bo2 stole a lot of my free time lol

[novel fjord]

nah man its all about the BO1 wager mages stress as a kid and gambling

💀

[ornate agate]

By the time I had my own setup for gaming multi-player on bo1 was half dead

[undone timber]

Ooft

[ornate agate]

So bo2 was the cod I got attached to can't stand the new ones tho

[novel fjord]

i was lucky enough to get one but worked and stuff after to pay my parents back

[ornate agate]

Fair enough we should probably get back to division talk now we kinda off topic lol

[novel fjord]

AYO

[oak prawn]

🧐

nat looks like a karen

A middle aged karen

[lapis kestrel]

Is there a spreadsheet? Anywhere ?

[hybrid ore]

Indeed there is!

@lapis kestrel #td2-build-advice > 📌 pinned-message > spreadsheet. It's maintained and up to date.

[green charm]

one my friend says have meet the developer with tag developer and 99999 with level is a real developer?

and says we show some bugs in game at my friend. My friend real think is a developer XD

[crystal notch]

wait really? that's good to know

[lapis kestrel]

🙏

[undone timber]

I didn't realize how broken bloody knuckles is on the incursion

[sterile ferry]

is it?

[undone timber]

I'm hitting 3 million with the ouroboros with sledge and seeing red procced

[vale rune]

You cant get exotic drop boss 1 in incursion , only boss 2 and 3 right?

[sterile ferry]

i think Moss, Wright, Martinez & Johnson

[crystal notch]

is moss even a boss?

[vale rune]

Ohja ok. Thank you

[sterile ferry]

yeah he drops a pile of loot like the rest

the only named NPCs who dont drop loot are L.U.V & B.I.R.D

[fair lake]

Can you share the build? These are damn good numbers

[undone timber]

Just 4 pc strikers with chest and bag, bloody knuckles and a grupo holster

Along with an ouroboros and rock and roll/lefty

CHC rolls until you get 60 and then roll everything else into chd

My builds at like 60/160

[shrewd cosmos]

Are the electrique brand blueprints no longer available? It says broken wings reward and I'm not finding anything new from lvl 4 control points

[kind veldt]

Blueprints from sessonal rewards go to descent and not CP4

[shrewd cosmos]

Yikes

Thank you

[frozen meadow]

Morning chat

[lone valve]

*Afternoon chat

[cedar mulch]

man hunt continues when?>

[lone valve]

This Tuesday at the reset

[cedar mulch]

good because since getting 100 on battlepass i feel bored

you got nsfw pics ot prove it?

[zinc shadow]

🤨

[cedar mulch]

i ment of the hynea chicks not yourself

😂

[frozen meadow]

what the fuck am i reading

[lone valve]

Yes they take drugs they are very energetic

[frozen meadow]

what in gods name

[kind veldt]

something something SNL e-meth sketch

[sterile ferry]

[Insert bonk meme]

[full zinc]

Was wondering that myself. 🤣

[cedar mulch]

imagine if they dropped the new dlc before xmas

it would sell very well

[kind veldt]

well we are getting a more expansive christmas update

santa claus gear set when?

[cedar mulch]

i want a grinch one

imagine running around nyc as the grinch

[kind veldt]

well having your heart increase three times in size is not something you want

[cedar mulch]

do yall use dx11 or dx12?

[kind veldt]

dx11

[cedar mulch]

is it better ?

[kind veldt]

i know dx12 is a bit unstable in this game specifically

on paper 12 is better i think but too buggy most of the time

[cedar mulch]

i use 11 but thinking with my 6800xt isnt dx12 actually prefered

[kind veldt]

on many games i mean

[cedar mulch]

yeah i think ghost recon breakpoint had a dx12 issue

but vulkan on that game is also a broken mess

[kind veldt]

i think borderlands had, siege had a bit for some time, payday 3 has it

[glass forge]

How do I get the white death damage up ?

[kind veldt]

what do you mean?

you can either try getting another one with more damage or you can optmize the stat

[smoky orchid]

You know surprisingly I haven’t crashed once with dx12

But I also had to have vsync on

Vsync off and dx12 on causes crashes way too often

[frozen meadow]

post what youre running in #td2-build-advice

[glass forge]

Ok

[full zinc]

Head hunter talent, hotshot set, vigilance talent, red cores everywhere. Use determined to maximize your ability to chain shots.
There should be a hotshot/ sniper build in the pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice

Also airaldi and habsburg sets give some mmr damage

[frozen meadow]

if you want max damage on max stacks youre doing a 3/2/1 unicorn setup

[full zinc]

By the time its farmed event will be over

I just been rolling memento hotshot 4 and chainkiller hitting 50mil during event 🤷‍♂️

You could probably slap chainkiller on any red cores regardless of brand and still demolish during reanimated

[frozen meadow]

lol

[frozen meadow]

i still need to get my unicorn chest piece then ill be done

i dont personally understand why people use CK over an airaldi vest for sniping tbh

[smoky orchid]

I wish zero Fs was on a diff brand set lol

[frozen meadow]

ive heard the argument that second shot does more damage, but just use nemesis/tac-50 for the first shot and then you dont even have to worry about it

[small spear]

because the problem of first shot doing enough damage but second shot not doing enough is real

[frozen meadow]

read the second half of the sentence

[small spear]

i know, sometimes you cannot

[frozen meadow]

i havent ran into that issue ever

and i dont even use determined .-.

[neon wyvern]

sometimes I don't feel like switching guns

[frozen meadow]

im not gonna comment on that because you can read my mind

[small spear]

doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it is a real problem and it is one that perfect hh solves

sometimes you just one-shot a red but then can't one-shot an elite with white death, it just happens

[sage ermine]

Maybe a glitch for me but do u guys see the options for voice channels here??

[broken solstice]

aint none

[sterile ferry]

ubisoft removed them

[sage ermine]

So, how to find a grp if u wanna do raid or incursion?

[sterile ferry]

by using #lfg-raid-pc and #lfg-td2incursion-pc

[sage ermine]

How to play with a grp of randoms like earlier we used t do

I got it, but without the voice channels how can u communicate?

[sterile ferry]

by using other servers

[kind veldt]

either invite everyone to chat in discord, use the other server, use ingame comms

[opal radish]

it's totally chainkilling though sometimes you miss just by an inch

[frozen meadow]

....?

oh nvm i misread

but uh tac-50/nem shot solves that

[small spear]

yes i know, but it's not as practical as just building to solve for it instead

[rich shadow]

Sometimes legendary enemies don't die, but with chainkiller they usually do

[small spear]

because i think you do realize overkilling does nothing when you optimize for 0-stack or max-stack damage

[frozen meadow]

you cant one-shot an elite warhound with a white death with a non-321 setup last i checked

[opal radish]

depends on scaling

[frozen meadow]

4-man

[opal radish]

with the 2nd stack

[frozen meadow]

max

ive tested, you cant get a one-shot on elite warhounds

unless i did something wrong with idk how is possible

[opal radish]

talk about second cause it can break the chain

[frozen meadow]

wdym

[kind veldt]

going to ask a stupid question since i dont play much with headhunter

would achilles pulse help?

[opal radish]

yeah but no with determined at tier 0 or 1 it becomes rng

achilles with tier 0 or 1 may get targetted to legs or hands

rendering it useless with hh