td2-general-chat

[opal radish]

you have to wait longer than countdown of skills

[hybrid ore]

Foam can also be used with an Eclipse build, which is a lot faster to foam an entire room than Scorpio could ever be.

[opal radish]

i am talking about with tier 0 skills

[hybrid ore]

Why did you tag me? I'm the next comment down.
Either way, that's a different build.

[midnight lotus]

counterargument:if you need to spam galvanize its probably irrelevant on your build

like say on a red build you are already fragile

[opal radish]

sorry for the trouble agent

[midnight lotus]

and on a tank build 40% bonus armor is still a lot to go around without needing to spam it

[neon wyvern]

what trouble?

[neon wyvern]

and yet u can spam it with elmos

[hybrid ore]

No trouble, just curious. It's been happening a lot lately, I assume it's a youth thing.
The art of pairing your build with complimentary guns is a delicate one.

[midnight lotus]

you don't need to spam it tho

at most you'll get 3 procs with elmos in real combat

[neon wyvern]

right but I don't need to run 30 second cool down skills

because I've already invested into armor

[midnight lotus]

banshee is such a sleeper skill smh

you can stun someone for like 3-4 seconds with no skill core invested with a bit of expertise

and foam is foam,good and reliable

[opal radish]

foam is the best support skill

[midnight lotus]

like honestly when the spec revamp hits and skills are no longer unique to each spec ima run banshee+striker shield

[tender notch]

not sure if we will still get the spec revamp, considering the lead dev on it left UBI like a year ago.

i hope we do though

[kind veldt]

they said it was cut and were going to implement other type of gear changes last stream no?

i remember hunting down the exact comment here

[tender notch]

no

they said something like "they werent happy with its current status and need more time to work on it" this was ~ year ago though

[kind veldt]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1840144692 around 37:40 they talk about it

[opal radish]

will see after another year too soon

[tender notch]

might come with the new DLC coming early next year (think its Q1 2024 iirc) BUT zero word on spec revamp even for then

[fallow lava]

where do i check the gear score ?

[midnight lotus]

so when do we get next season reveal usually?

[kind veldt]

spec revamp "it's something we had to set aside to adress the endgame and it didnt really fit in"

they say themselves the article is now innacurate and they are more excited for other changes they are planning

we might get some weird gear 3.0 or whatever but not spec revamp

[reef reef]

did you finish the white house stronghold

[midnight lotus]

pain

[kind veldt]

which is really sad because specializations dont really feel like... you are specialized into something

[opal radish]

yeah the spec weapon are netf against certain enemies

[midnight lotus]

honestly the silver lining is that they will never nerf striker shield

[fallow lava]

i finished all campaign but last time i played was when dlc released

and im trying to figure out how to see my world tier

[reef reef]

Did you finish the DLC campaign?

[fallow lava]

yes all

[reef reef]

Or, well, started it-

Then you no longer have a world tier

[kind veldt]

no more gear score

[fallow lava]

oh

[reef reef]

its all just level 40 stuff for you now.

[kind veldt]

it's all lv40 now just hope for good rolls

[fallow lava]

how do i get better gear?

[kind veldt]

harder content or luck

[reef reef]

^

[real creek]

Can also get carried and gear shared.

[tender notch]

harder content on average has higher min rolls (but same max rolls)

[kind veldt]

up the difficulty in general will increase the base stats for the rolls

shops and events caches do end up giving stuff with good rolls

[fallow lava]

u mean the attributes right?

[kind veldt]

yeah

let's just sya that if you go on normal you might from 2-15% weapon damage on your guns

but on heroic it goes from 8-15%

you can get maxed out stuff on normal, but on heroic chances are better and you might get something somthing with really good roll and two other decent ones

the rest is farming mats and donating materias for expertise, optmization and library

so you can re-roll gear or just that extra % it was lacking

[spark barn]

guys for manhunt what is the power source

nvm fount it

[opal radish]

we are glad to announce the wedding of Manny and Mari singh Next Season stay tuned

[forest egret]

just let me be master chief and ill be happy

[reef reef]

everyone knows Manny and Mari, and their adopted kid Master Chief

[rough sleet]

🤔

[opal radish]

what are you thinking 👀

[frozen meadow]

uwu

[opal radish]

you are not invited it seems 👀

[frozen meadow]

to what

[opal radish]

manny mari wedding

[frozen meadow]

manny was honestly oblivious to the fact birth control doesnt exist

funny

[opal radish]

lol

[rough sleet]

nothing, ever, this head be empty 24/7....

[opal radish]

lol

[frozen meadow]

do yall have an internal monologue

[rough sleet]

I have internal screaming, does that count?

[frozen meadow]

uh

[opal radish]

me too

[frozen meadow]

idk how to answer that

[frozen meadow]

this was a genuine question btw

[midnight lotus]

manny when actions have consequences🤯

[opal radish]

for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

anyone having 2 manny deltas?

[azure lintel]

how do i remove the mask from my character's appercance?

[frozen meadow]

go to the mask in the inventory, go to the options, and it should be there

[azure lintel]

theres hide mask show mask option but its still showing

[frozen meadow]

when you exit out of the menu is it

[azure lintel]

oh nvm it works

thank you :D

[real creek]

Some people don't, also some people don't have a "minds eye". My best friend found out he was different at like 33.

[frozen meadow]

i know; i cant imagine not having one

[azure lintel]

im built different

[real creek]

It's just really interesting to me, the huge differences in thinking/recalling memories.

[lethal halo]

I still wish our division agent had a voice actor

[frozen meadow]

i dont

[real creek]

I wish they'd just come out with some backstory for us being a mute.

[lethal halo]

It feels weird that our agent doesn’t speak. I get they’re the main character and all but it feels weird

[lethal halo]

Or that too! Like some permanent injury that made them mute or something

[frozen meadow]

the whole point of the character being silenced is because theres more to focus on

the character is supposed to be you, rather than you the character

[azure lintel]

for some reason my castle is 1/2. how do i mnkw what i need to do to make it 2/2?

[lethal halo]

Thought It’d be kinda cool if the agent gave some input

[frozen meadow]

next season

[azure lintel]

ohhhh okok

thank you

[lethal halo]

I feel like the castle has gotten the worst of it out of all the settlements

[frozen meadow]

wdym

[azure lintel]

nah white house

there arent any animals there

😔

[lethal halo]

Except the deer that runs through

[frozen meadow]

the white house wasnt chemically mortared with inhabitants inside of it

[lethal halo]

It was almost missled by some black tusk lunatic though

[frozen meadow]

theres a large difference between BOO and settlement

[frozen meadow]

explosive mortars are not chemical

DC-62 chemical bombing on the castle was chemical

[lethal halo]

I seriously don’t understand how the hyenas got a hold of the stuff

Like the true sons and black I understand

[opal radish]

black tusk lent them

[frozen meadow]

^

[lethal halo]

Hyenas were just a front

[frozen meadow]

the BT were exchanging supplies with all the other factions

(minus the two in dc)

[lethal halo]

The black tusk is just a smarter LMB

[frozen meadow]

so hyenas and outcasts we took out their leadership

[frozen meadow]

LMB actually joined BT

the remaining members did

[lethal halo]

keep forgetting the outcasts exist

[frozen meadow]

if you think canonically, since the hunters are part of BT, theyve always been around

[lethal halo]

I’ve yet to kill a hunter

Dk how to properly do so since the way to do it is complicated

[somber hedge]

dont use skills, they turn those against you, try to shoot them more than they shoot you

hope it helps 👍

[neon wyvern]

alot more than they shoot you lmao

[full zinc]

Spawn them. Foam them. Scorpio them.
Reapply foam as needed. Shock traps are nice too

[real creek]

So if you know exactly where they spawn you can put shock traps down where they spawn. Emp doesn't affect them.

[lethal halo]

Yeah but where do they even spawn

[real creek]

Just watch a guide video on how to spawn them cause that's 90% of the fight.

[full zinc]

Bunch of YouTube guides

[lethal halo]

Is all of it really worth the keys

[real creek]

You don't have a dope board with all their mask on it do you?

[lethal halo]

I don’t even have one mask

[real creek]

I mean it's something fun to do in the game. There is a named gun and chest locked behind them aswell.

[lethal halo]

What are the best skills to use against them that won’t utterly backfire on me

[full zinc]

Foam and shocktraps

[lethal halo]

Gotta it so don’t use seeker mines

[real creek]

Seekers aren't bad it's just you are gonna wanna shoot them down not skill kill them down.

Bad in the way where they hack them and use them against you.

[lethal halo]

Oh hell no

[full zinc]

You only need things that can stop them from shooting you

[real creek]

Just shoot your goo and pew pew.

[lethal halo]

Good thing I have the bullet king

Though imagine if we go back to New York and in the future we get an update where we can see our TD1 agent

[opal radish]

i got killed by my own seekers

[real creek]

Yeah but this is you we are talking about...

😉

[opal radish]

i overcharged the seekers and i was in cover npc suddenly right beside me

tham RIP

[real creek]

lol did your body fly at least?

[opal radish]

yeah it was funny also

i captured a nic pic of my death

[fiery cloud]

Hey Eevee, Local, Souless

[opal radish]

hi saph👋

[azure lintel]

Reminds me when my artilery got me while i was using sweet dreams, this was before i knew builds lol

[opal radish]

artillery is common you can sucide with it but with seekers it's really difficult you have to be way unlucky to pull that of

[azure lintel]

True lol seekers seeked you instead.

[real creek]

It is Wednesday my dude.

[blazing sleet]

Next dlc in new york?

[signal tree]

Anyone got a nice “step-by-step” boosting a friend through New York- guide? Like, wich order you do the missions and stuff?!?

[opal radish]

just do manhut also when you are close to level up do some activity first to resch next lvl as xp for mission is increased significantly

[signal tree]

Thanks, its just that i’m 11k already and gonna boost some friends through NY, just wondering how quick we can do it..

[azure lintel]

I just noticed my weaver scarf and mask dont connect anymore and they look bad. I know they used to connect and look good. Why is this?

[tender wave]

one new player + one lvl 40 can do it in about 2hrs if you're reasonably efficient and the lvl 40 knows their way around. Key tips are: for each area, the lvl 40 should fast travel to the safehouse first and the other follow them, this not only saves on running time but also skips the first step in the manhunt process. Then fast travel to main mission when applicable. Usual order is Parnell-Conley-Kajika-Dragov

[signal tree]

Ty kettle

[opal radish]

i thought order didn't matter

[tender wave]

by leaving kajika until 3rd or 4th target you can run straight from the tunnel side-mission to castle clinton (saves a bit of running time)

dragov generally last because there's so much loot at the end, you'll hopefully be lvl 40 by that time so it'll give a leg up on final builds

[fiery cloud]

Hey Kettle

[signal tree]

👍🏼

[tender wave]

good builds to have: eclipse firespreader, chatterbox hunters fury, and some mid-range AR build for situations where enemies are too spread out or tanky for either of those

[opal radish]

use eclipse build since it clears everything quickly

[tender wave]

hey Saph

[full zinc]

whats good Saph

[fiery cloud]

Going to work

I'll work on manhunt tonight

[full zinc]

nice

[astral jacinth]

I like the new Castle theme

[pallid root]

Where can I get the named providence backpack

[sterile ferry]

dz and named item caches

[opal radish]

countdown vendor if lucky

[scenic vale]

So yesterday I finished the manhunt and today I helped someone else finish it. Now it says I have to finish the debrief mission but I already did that and the game won't let me talk to Mari again

[kind veldt]

is there a reason that manhunt missions are always on heroic now os is it a bug?

[frozen meadow]

They aren't?

[kind veldt]

mine is without me setting it on heroic

[frozen meadow]

Is it your world difficulty

[kind veldt]

happened in all manhunts since year 4

challenging

i just keep on there to do stuff faster

[viscid cargo]

MINOR MANHUNT SPOILER: ||whos the "vik" that was referenced at the end of the manhunt?||

[frozen meadow]

Vikram Malik? The CEO of odea?

You did two side missions with him

@viscid cargo

[viscid cargo]

i did the side missions like a century ago lmao

[frozen meadow]

you should still remember the name at least smh

[viscid cargo]

i knew the name

just not who he is

[frozen meadow]

now you know

[torn rampart]

Aren't we supposed to get a castle upgrade after completing the manhunt? It still shows as 1 of 2 bars on my map

[noble lark]

Ubi needs to add rejoin to descent 💪💪

[uncut grove]

sorry caps

[midnight pollen]

would anyone be willing to play still on the warlords dlc newer i guess you could say the last time i played this game was like 2-3 years ago on xbox thought i would give it another try on pc if anyone would be down to play dm me would appreciate it

[tender wave]

probably not until next season (see the Y5 roadmap)

[torn rampart]

Thanks

[lethal palm]

Hi

someone for farm mission ?

[hybrid verge]

yo guys are you crashing constantly as well?

[cedar mulch]

does this game have any new players atall say if i was to start a secondary char would i struggle to find groups ?

[midnight pollen]

would anyone be down to play new havent played in like 2- 3 years looking for someone to play with dm me if down

[floral salmon]

countdown queue not working?

[magic rock]

How many exotic snipers out there ?

[inner elbow]

4

[magic rock]

Never mind I have them

Can I get doctor Holmes from the target loot or exotic cache ?

Never mind I got it

[bitter wraith]

Are there any pvp clans on xbox that don't require a mic where you can just join a clan group whenever?

My clan leader is mad at me again for using a skill build...you know...the build that's part of the game??

[opaque lion]

Ever since the most recent update crashing has been very infrequent, though it still happens randomly

Like 4-6 hours until i crash, and crashing upon minutes of startup has never happened for me ever since

[azure lintel]

Hi I’m new player of this game , I want to know how to level up fast

[midnight pollen]

would anyone be down to play new havent played in like 2- 3 years looking for someone to play with dm me if down

[upper oriole]

#new-player-resources

[azure lintel]

Ok thxxxx

[midnight pollen]

would anyone be willing to help me gear up and get a build to go into the darkzone dm me if your down

[thorny talon]

Suggest to savour every minute of your beginning rather than levelling up fast. No matter what grind is inevitable

[dire ravine]

There's a whole bunch of ps players who can't log in to game rn anyone know what's up with servers

[grizzled stone]

hi

[night sphinx]

Hi guys , are the servers in ps down ?

[dire ravine]

I'm only having issues with div 2 tho can log into other games

And just checked ps servers are good

[night sphinx]

Yh same

Just now it gave me the services are unreachable at this time message .

[forest egret]

i found this dude on youtube who actually posts content about how he hacks on this game, and then proceeds to try to sell it to viewers

[crude cave]

dm it to this server's modmail

[forest egret]

aight

[dire ravine]

Said the same for me but can play every other online game on ps5

And still says psn servers are good

[magic maple]

Does anyone know what the laptops do at the season vendor over at the castle?

[copper shoal]

no

[opal radish]

don't double click on map

[quick wolf]

Finally finished the manhunt of the season.

So many manhunts cleared. So many targets neutralized. Not even a tiny bit of recognition. No sir. All I get is a "Thank you agent".

Most I ever got was a small party after taking down Keener. And that was it.

Also love how that was deleted even though it's part of the game.

lol.

[finite hare]

Your message got deleted soo quickly

🤣

I feel you bro

[azure lintel]

🥹🥹🥹

[quick wolf]

Either way, the point gets across. Manny is having fun. And I get nothing for my efforts. A drink in my hand at best.

Is it too much to ask for a god rolled weapon or two at least?

Would save me hours of grinding, Manny.

[azure lintel]

Remember that lady in the settlement with the whiskey? It could be that’s how it started 🤷‍♀️

Ty agent you saved the planet stopped climate change and made dinner. Lol

[finite hare]

I didn’t do the manhunt so I have no idea what’s going on

I barely even pay attention to the main missions

[azure lintel]

I stopped at Anderson

Whenever that was lol

[quick wolf]

In all seriousness, I understand there's probably some limitations to include our agents in cutscenes and stuff since no "one" agent is technically the protagonist.
But like... fuckin hell. At least one cutscene where I'm actually recognized for what I do would be nice.

[jagged canyon]

Agent doesn't feel appreciated

[finite hare]

I mostly just care about the pvp.

[azure lintel]

That could be why manny made children they treat him so poorly like us, he made his own number one fan 🤗

[quick wolf]

I feel like how Kelso feels. She just wants to be in NYC now.

[azure lintel]

Ok that was way more cure than I intended it lmao

[hybrid ore]

The simplest explanation for why we don't feel appreciated is likely that it's not just "us" doing it in the canon, but a random Agent each time.

[quick wolf]

She literally said, Fuck DC. I don't feel needed or wanted.

[blazing sleet]

Next dlc/manhunt in nyc

[jagged canyon]

Remember when we were called the sheriff

[finite hare]

Wth

[azure lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-good-point-valid-point-true-that-accurate-touche-gif-13756946

[jagged canyon]

Srry but I don't agree with that at all. That would basically mean that from a canon perspective we don't do every story mission ourselves

[azure lintel]

I do since I just redid the whole story again lol

[hybrid ore]

Yes exactly, we don't. Otherwise why wouldn't they address us by name?
It's a theory that's been around since before World Tier 5 was a thing.

[azure lintel]

I’ve never read the books, so I’ve no idea what the official stance on agent us is. So I have no room for me in this conversation now lol

[finite hare]

Alright. Have a good one y’all

[azure lintel]

Night mate

👋

[jagged canyon]

Well we kinda never told them since we don't talk

[hybrid ore]

I don't read the books, video-game novelisations are....often not the best written.
I'm sure these are fine, but I'd rather not have to go through another Halo book experience.

[finite hare]

“I never sleep. I just wait in the shadows. And I will….” - AC origins

Peace🤣

[quick wolf]

AI voices didn't exist yet, lmao. They had no way to read our usernames.

"Thank you agent Roy.Benitez223"

[hybrid ore]

Fallout 4 managed to pre-record a commonly-used list of names back in 2016, if they wanted to, they could have.

[quick wolf]

Isn't Fallout also an RPG in pretty much every sense of the term?

Now if they let us actually pick from a list of names, maybe I could see it happening. In that case we're actually shaping a character, not just you know... a psychopathic killing machine.

But I'm pretty sure that was out of the scope for a looter shooter like Division.

[opal radish]

we don't have cheat codes in division

[hybrid ore]

Actually in Fallout you could just type out a name and if it was on "the list", then it would be spoken out loud by Codsworth.
but I digress, it's very clearly not just us. It makes no sense to be just us, the series is based on at least semi-realism and we are not Kryptonians here.
Even if it is canonically a team of 4 I could accept that. Actually that makes sense since "the sherriff" would just refer to the leader of the group, with the rest being deputies.

And that's how I self justify poor writing in the div2 base campaign.

[quick wolf]

Yes, but even assuming that canon-wise it's a different agent each time, or even a group of agents, an inclusion into more cutscenes wouldn't hurt.

Maybe a shout out from the big bad, Sokolova herself? Something like: "Okay, this particular agent is a problem we need to deal with."

Actually, that'd be pretty fucking cool for a manhunt.

Except this time you're the target.

And instead of neutralized or rescued, you're given a set of assets to defend.

[hybrid ore]

It seems a tad ambitious for div2, but perhaps in the upcoming DLC during y5,s04.

[opal radish]

i hate defending asset in this game this is the reason vip in cd sucks or hostage rescue becomes a drag

[quick wolf]

VIP just takes too long. And defending shit that moves in general is annoying.

I can guarantee you that if VIP in CD was just some stationary server to defend, with not as many waves, way more people would do it.

At that point it just turns into a mini-resistance mode like in Div 1.

[opal radish]

at least it is not annoying

[quick wolf]

Exactly.

[neon wyvern]

vip for the loot not the time

[quick wolf]

People hate VIP because the AI is dumb and will willing walk into danger. I've seen the guy walk into outcast rushers before.

It's also the only objective you can fail on the job. Every other objective is "shoot this" "destroy that" "hack that thing".

Way better than defending a braindead engineer that runs into bullet fire.

[hybrid ore]

Except when the Steam pipes glitch out, or the valve/switch thingy doesn't work.

that one floor handle has failed me more Countdowns than crashes have.

[quick wolf]

Oof unlucky. Never had that happen to me at least.

There was this one time though... I saw a guy get stuck under the stairs in admin.

Had to grenade himself to get out.

Except that didn't work cause someone ran Tardigrade.

Had to use Oxy to down himself, but had like 0 skill tier.

So it took a bit.

[opal radish]

remind me of the time i got stuck in door

[quick wolf]

DOOR STUCK

DOOR STUCK

I BEG YOU

[azure lintel]

Only mind that one on heroic

[quick wolf]

It's funny because even on challenging people still avoid VIP like a plague.

[azure lintel]

But I can defend him alone until heroic 🤣

And then it’s like, ehhhh

[opal radish]

vip is a skip

[azure lintel]

Swap to revive hive for that part 😔

I feel I get him every time

[quick wolf]

Heroic isn't hard, the issue is that if there's one thing that's rarer than Exotics, it's extracting in CD with all 8 people.

[quick wolf]

At least one person is bound to crash, disconnect, or bug out.

[azure lintel]

Just hard when I’m at an objective alone.

[quick wolf]

And then the whole instance just becomes annoying.

[azure lintel]

Which happens way more on heroic than challenging I don’t know why

[quick wolf]

Part of the reason I stopped running Heroic is due to the unreliability of the game.

[azure lintel]

Odd isn’t it? Challenging is so smoothe and easy

[quick wolf]

I can't count on making it to extract with 8 people. So running Heroic is a gamble.

[azure lintel]

Heroic is like, …

But the rolls I swear they’re always way better not just marginally on heroic

Might be my bad loot luck

[opal radish]

i always play heroic

only played challenging once and it was solo

[azure lintel]

Please add me, I run all the time

[quick wolf]

Enemies are bullet sponge, because it's assumed there will be enough people dealing damage and doing decent DPS.
But as soon as 2 people dip for any of the aforementioned reasons, it just turns into shitfest.

[azure lintel]

Oh yes it does

Lol

[opal radish]

i usually keep a pocket nuke for heroic cd comes in handy

[quick wolf]

It also doesn't help when people new to the game give it a shot, then get clapped into next week by the Hunters.

[opal radish]

in heroic making the group is half part if everyone running Rainbow than it is going to be painful

[uncut grove]

if anyone is running anything and wants a mate ill run

[quick wolf]

So basically, my reasons for not running Heroic are:

• Unstable servers disconnecting people
• Glitches and bugs booting group members
• Noobies who want to farm but clearly don't have the build or know how to dance with the AI
• Challenging is way faster = more runs on average = more loot per hour.

[opal radish]

is challenging that faster really?

[quick wolf]

You can complete a challenging session with less than 6 people. Doing the same on Heroic is a nightmare unless everyone is veteran.

[full zinc]

i run challenging only as well 👍

[quick wolf]

The best runs will get you to the final objective at around the 10-9 min mark.

[azure lintel]

Yes sadly

[quick wolf]

There is some RNG involved though.

[opal radish]

i have completed heroic with 4 people

[azure lintel]

Way faster

[quick wolf]

Like how close objectives can be, and the countermeasures you get.

[azure lintel]

If you’re looking at loot per hour easily the best way to go

[quick wolf]

My record time was final objective at 11:49. Almost 12 minute mark.

The reason for? Simple. Nearly everyone in the group ran DPS. The two objectives we did was Hostile takedown and Hostile Upload.

And they were right next to each other. It was Turbine and Containment.

Also we have the broken ass Close range assault countermeasure.

[full zinc]

challenging its way easier to carry someone so gear inspection isnt an issue either

[quick wolf]

You know... the one that makes each pellet from an ACS-12 deal like 1-2M damage, lol.

So if the stars align, you can especially get incredibly fast runs.

You should still average somewhere around the 8-10 min mark though from the low-high end.

I have a feeling that if we had more damage buffing countermeasures, we just might have hit the main objective the 12:30 mark. Give or take.

But that's already too many stars aligning. lmao

[neon wyvern]

each pellet? That sounds like headhunter

r u sure?

[quick wolf]

Nope. The close-range countermeasure sometimes bugs out. When it does it can make all weapons absurdly strong.

I've run my HF build with, only using Unbreakable and Memento.

And I've hit for as high as 3M on crit with some HF stacks.

There are times when I've spammed 11-12M bodyshots with a Classic M1A on my all Red DPS build.

Hunters barely last anything.

[rich shadow]

That CM is so broken

🤣

[quick wolf]

It's still a noticeable increase in DPS when it doesn't bug out.

But when it does... Oh boy, I could solo Heroic CD.

That's when the real fun begins.

I still don't know what causes it to glitch out like that.

Pretty sure the thing says it's 25% increase in weapon damage within a certain range. But that's impossible when you hit numbers that high.

[rich shadow]

Got to be an Amp

[quick wolf]

And it's using the same exact icon for the CM when either it does or doesn't happen. So it can't be a different countermeasure.

25% still seems low for spamming 12M M1A shots.

Feels more like 40-50%.

I mean, my math is shit, don't get me wrong. But that increase in damage does not feel like 25%.

[rich shadow]

Yea, deffo broken

[neon wyvern]

yeah I'm pretty sure 25% seems low when it's as if your ACS permanently has head hunter procced

[rich shadow]

Everytime I see that CM I know we'll complete np.

[neon wyvern]

absurd

[quick wolf]

Average Division 2 player mindsent when close-range CM:
Big number make me happy.

That CM turns yellow and blue builds into DPS builds.

And it turns DPS builds into funny haha everything dead builds.

[rich shadow]

+2m per AR bullet

[quick wolf]

The ones you have fun playing.

Finish it again.

[rich shadow]

Div2 is never finished lol

[quick wolf]

Then play something not ass.

[rich shadow]

Balders gate 3?

[quick wolf]

^

[rich shadow]

Everyone seem to be playing it

[quick wolf]

Because it's fun.

95% overwhelmingly postive on steam btw.

[rich shadow]

D4 is decent, but I'd wait until they improve it

[quick wolf]

I mean... I don't know what you want us to say other than play something else?
Not like any of us know what kind of stuff you're into.

"Yeah, go buy this game even though we don't know if you'll like it or not, lol"

[rich shadow]

I'm not sure what you expect from a game...

[fickle rampart]

"what are some good games to play"
given some options
"all of this is shit"

like lmfao

[quick wolf]

We just have to magically guess what kind of games he likes.

[fickle rampart]

I guess so lol

[quick wolf]

Have you tried dating sims, Lofty?

[rich shadow]

Fortnight lol

[copper shoal]

Remnant 2

[quick wolf]

Let's see...

• S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
• Metro: Exodus
• God of War
• The Secret of Monkey Island
• Street Fighter 6
• PAYDAY 2
• Red Dead Redemption
• RUST
• Stardew Valley
• My Time at Portia
• XCOM 2
• Guild Wars 2
• The Binding of Isaac
• Risk of Rain 2
• The Witcher 3
• Dave the Diver
• Elden Ring
• Any Persona game
• Any Yakuza game
• Super Mario Party
• Mario Kart 8
• The Legend of Zelda: BotW/TotK
• Super Smash Bros Ultimate
• Any Resident Evil game

List goes on... pick something.

[upper oriole]

was that a list of twitch streams in order of most viewers?

[rose kraken]

all the metro games are good

stalker clear sky is the best stalker imo though

until stalker 2 comes out at least

[native fern]

Why they disabled the benchmark tool on PCs ? They did not even said anything about it

[weak dagger]

Question:
so I'm relatively new to the game just lvl 21 at the moment and I just discovered that there are secret location in the game that give High-End stuff (I don't know if this is still a thing) so my question is, should I go for them now (if they're even still in the game) or should I wait and get to a higher level before going to loot them?

[tender wave]

Most loot chests respawn daily, you can loot them as much as you want

[weak dagger]

including the High-End Chests?

[tender wave]

Not sure exactly which ones you are referring to, but almost certainly yes

High end in this game refers to yellow/gold quality gear

[weak dagger]

I saw a video in YT where there are secret locations in the game that give the High-End weapons

[weak dagger]

yea the one I'm using right now is kinda falling behind in level

[tender wave]

Hydden hotels? Pretty sure those are regular loot chests, so the loot quality depends on your level. Not actually hunted them out myself though

Honestly any loot you get at level 22 will be useless after gaining a few more levels though

If you're struggling, just craft or buy a suitable weapon and use that for a bit

[weak dagger]

ohhh okay okay

[hybrid verge]

whoever made gear dz exclusive kinda deserves cbt for the rest of their pathetic lives :/

[modest lintel]

go to dz so not become pathetic

[hybrid verge]

i did. you wont believe how much xp i got from being spawncamped

also people just abusing broken and unfixed stuff like the cavalier status imunity bs

yeah fk this game and everything it stands for

just dont get good gear i guess

[modest lintel]

buh bye

[rich shadow]

what gear from DZ do you need?

[sterile ferry]

every dz "exclusive" gear can be earned without going to the dz at all

[finite hare]

The DZ has became tolerable for me ever since the DC fix

[tiny oar]

wow this week rescue is nasty, spawning the boss right behind us so he can delete us was not cool

[finite hare]

Thought y’all could hide huh🤣

[grave jetty]

damn the final manhunt target mission is brutal

[hybrid verge]

sure lemme just play the lottery for a dark winter

or any other dz exclusive for that matter

[sterile ferry]

as if they drop like candies in the DZs

[full zinc]

Do countdown and buy named caches. Ezpz dz exclusives

[hybrid verge]

at least there's a better chance with targeted loot

i did buy named caches with the event currencies. not a single dz exclusive except a named yahl mask that's pretty useless with those stats

[full zinc]

Countdown can net one of those caches for ever run. 15mins per

Most of the dz exclusives are trash anyways

Including dark winter

[hybrid verge]

tbh i want the kard custom more than any other

but the experience of getting one is the same

[halcyon radish]

Kard custom only fit niche situation as you have to hold the pistol to get extra skill tier

[hybrid verge]

oh really?

[full zinc]

Kard custom is solid. Keep an eye on countdown vendor. It has been on sale there in recent past.
Skill tier on demand can go a long way

[opal radish]

no?

[full zinc]

Yes

[hybrid verge]

does it at least snapshot in case of turrets/drones?

[full zinc]

It wont hold the skill tier on a skill if you switch weapon

[opal radish]

kard kustom matador emperor's guard are few good items you can say only few dz items are good

[full zinc]

I didnt say all were bad. I said most

You forgot harmony

[halcyon radish]

Orbit is one of the best

[opal radish]

ok

my bad reread the comment

i agree most are trash

[full zinc]

Its not gonna be game ending to not have any of the dz exclusives though

[tiny oar]

im missing 1 audio collectible from this manhunt

any clues ?

[opal radish]

yeah

[halcyon radish]

Especially Dev team tend to focus on PVE content, most of common build could find on LZ

[opal radish]

it is always because in pvp certain item too op that we get complaints and nerfs

[full zinc]

Kard custom excels if you want to throw out a revive but are at skill tier 0. Kard will give you an extra charge so you can pick it back up.
I also use on builds where I use healing skills and boost up another tier of healing if needed. It is kinda niche but it can be very handy

[hybrid verge]

so basically use it on one time skills and move on

like a banshee pulse

[full zinc]

Yeah you could

[opal radish]

yeah you can deploy shock trap at overcharge they stay the same

they are snapshotted at skill tiers

just like pulse

[halcyon radish]

They don't add DZ exclusive for age, even cavalier is PVP set but they give us at LZ

[opal radish]

yeah but pve sets are too op and get nerfed look at the once mighty Eagle Bearer

[kind veldt]

Claws out is a weird piece but interesting

[full zinc]

The only true exclusive there is anymore is regulus

[opal radish]

and it is always gonna be at ih unless devs change yheir minds

[gilded perch]

Nah, devs stop adding anything which is dz exclusive

In old patch every season with 2 weapons named and 2 gear named, and 1 weapon and 1 gear are dz stuff

Nowadays they put every new stuff able to get in lz, not even mention some season only have 2~3 named

[opal radish]

but the quality of those items are terrible nowdays very few are good

[halcyon radish]

Closer/setup/courier/henri could makes some nice build

[opal radish]

yeah but over every season we get like 1 named item worth using

[azure lintel]

i got the year 1 bundle and it didnt unlock all the field research weapons

[halcyon radish]

I like the kingbreaker and determined is one of the best talent for sniper, last year added gears are better than 80% DZ exclusive

[opal radish]

yeah but not in the same season afaik

[full zinc]

Sledge hammer also a good release

Perf opportunistic, per creeping

Been a few pretty good additions recently

Eletrique

Hotshot

[opal radish]

i said 1 item or on a good note 2 item per season are good

[full zinc]

Been a lot of good stuff recently

[opal radish]

only thing that ticks me off is why per creeping is not on electrique

[full zinc]

Because they were trying to make sacrum shine

[halcyon radish]

If Hermano not bugged at the very first day, it would be a game changer for skill build😂

[opal radish]

i have one with reapir skill and skill haste for some reason

[azure lintel]

can anyone help me?

[halcyon radish]

Iirc year 1 only grant the accessibility of the specialization, you still need to complete the task to get the weapon

[real creek]

yeah pretty sure you gotta do field research regardless.

[rose kraken]

random emelines guard drop from a normal tusk enemy, weird

[midnight lotus]

you only unlock the spec but you have yet to do the spec missions and iirc some specs are not part of year 1 like Firewall

[azure lintel]

so i pre much paid for nothing, i could do the mission and i was 4/5 in firewall

[opal radish]

tbh I don't know what year 1 grants

[midnight lotus]

you get bonus cosmetics for doing the spec missions

like firewall gets a firefighter outfit iirc

its not significant yea but you can at least skip the mission and get to grinding

the hecking tier 5 technician or survivalist quest

the one where you need to remove every piece of armor from an outcast tank

i spent 15 minutes there

[opal radish]

loo i used foam too much there

on heroic just so he doesn't die

[real creek]

Yeah I helped a friend do it and we just put it on hard to make it go faster but then he just killed the guy. Bumped diff so he had more health friggin did it again.

[azure lintel]

Yo if you’re on PS4/PS5 add me I need people to do PVP and WONY material runs with just PM me and I’ll send my PSN

[neon wyvern]

I just used oxidizer on balisisk

it took a minute but it was easy

as long as he attacks the sniper turret on the floor

[opal radish]

yeah. that challenge is difficult on low difficulty

[rose kraken]

if i do the new york dlc will i be able to go back to the normal game after?

[sterile ferry]

yes

[rose kraken]

i see

[real creek]

Once you go to new york you are stuck there until you beat the arron keener mission. Once you've done that you'll unlock SHD levels and you can freely go between DC and NY

[rose kraken]

shd levels?

[sterile ferry]

a secondary leveling system, the higher your level the more bonuses you get

[real creek]

The SHD levels have different categories to level and once you reach 1000 you'll have all of them max but can keep leveling forever. These do have some effect on your builds and overall strength but good builds and skill matter more.

[rose kraken]

how do i make the jefferson center mission replay fuck off, its annoying as hell

[opal radish]

by holding G

[azure lintel]

im so confused, so nothing changed. im 4/5 in firewall and i still need to do anything

[midnight lotus]

yes

[azure lintel]

can i dm u a pic

[midnight lotus]

sure

[oak prawn]

welp time to finish this seasons manhunt

[rose kraken]

the entire campus settlement using their full willpower to get locked down by black tusk

[barren tiger]

again

[rose kraken]

AGAIN

[barren tiger]

and then back to grinding out those exotic pieces

finished up back on tuesday and haven't logged back in since lol

[oak prawn]

too much work

[barren tiger]

yeah hence the i haven't logged on sicne i finished the manhunt lol

[oak prawn]

manhunt reward is underwehelimng

[opal radish]

XP even more 220k geroic 4 directive invade heroic 4 directive 880k and shorter

[rose kraken]

whats this heroic difficulty youre talking about, mine only goes up to hard

[silent nymph]

hope the next season is going to give us something better cause the reward for rescuing mari is just....not worth it here cause it's basically just a arm pathc where as in last season we got a appearance chest piece from stovepipe and for anderson's manhunt we got the doctor home where as if now it's kinda of a good rifle here

[frozen meadow]

It's not about the reward it's about the journey

[rough sleet]

🤔

[rose kraken]

and about the friends we made along the way ?

[silent nymph]

that is if we count friend's as the bug's here

[tender wave]

You prefer it when they add a new exotic for the season then don't let you access it until the season is almost finished because it's locked behind the manhunt?

Personally I prefer getting the good stuff up front on the season track.

[azure lintel]

when do this season end

[rough sleet]

got like 4-5 weeks left IIRC, cause leagues, global event, etc.

[toxic trout]

Hey, I'm a new player who just reached WT 1 and I was guessing : It is usefull to farm until WT 5 or can I just jump into the DLC ?

[sterile ferry]

i suggest jumping into DLC when you reach WT5, dont bother farming until finishing the DLC

[toxic trout]

But so its usefull to "farm" until WT 5 ? I have to do all 3 fortress 4 times ?

[azure lintel]

u sure its that long left

[rough sleet]

shrug atleast 2 more weeks for sure

since one week of leagues usually overlaps GE I think

[silent nymph]

well no i was hoping like getting something worth getting cause this season's reward for rescuing mari is kinda of a let down here and was hoping for something better like a outfit or something

[sterile ferry]

no point in farming. do all 6 invaded missions first then do the 4 strongholds, makes it easier

when you start the DLC, the gear you have become extremely weak. youre gonna have to farm them again. save your time

[oak prawn]

bruh that 1 part with unlimited drones is annopying espically on heroic me deck and nerf struggled

[crisp panther]

I only come here when I cant launch game.

[opal radish]

we sufferd more due to playing reckless

[oak prawn]

true we got over confident

[opal radish]

at least i was

the more surprising thing is i got more xp than with my solo completion on heroic 🤣 🤣

[crisp panther]

Ooh its launching.... Bye.

[oak prawn]

i felt bad killing the last 2 bosses

[opal radish]

yeah condolences from me for your loss

[oak prawn]

still i feel bad for the baby its gonna grow up in a wartorn city

[opal radish]

maybe we can revert the crysis before he grows up

[oak prawn]

my agent is not doing diaper duty

[opal radish]

handle with care

[full zinc]

resource convoys gonna be carrying new supplies. 😅

[oak prawn]

maybe ill sacrifice it to lootficer

[full zinc]

ofc the loot reward at the end was a relic 🤣 , dont ever have enough of those

[oak prawn]

as long as i dont gotta help take care of the baby id rather be out killing things and collecting shiny things

[opal radish]

lol i got nothing

[opal radish]

TU 19 RESOURCES has been changed to diapers,Milk Bottle

[oak prawn]

i got a ninja exotic in the panda enclosure the roll was so bad

[opal radish]

i got amazing trash loot

[full zinc]

good component

[oak prawn]

the roll was so bad i woulsnt even give it to my agewnt whos plays on normal

[opal radish]

where is our lead Dev 👀

[full zinc]

come on, only 15 optimizations .. totally worth /s

[opal radish]

thank god we don't have skill tier in %

[oak prawn]

Ya mean eevee?

[full zinc]

ofc

[opal radish]

yeah ofc

[oak prawn]

Well her name is Champion Eevee(not a dev) so she's ovb a dev

[opal radish]

i was playing with 200ms ping

[oak prawn]

God tier ping

😂

[full zinc]

oceans cant hold you back

[oak prawn]

Slr now that I got the manhunt complete time to not touch the game again til new season 😂

[opal radish]

lol

it was funny

i was at full armour and suddenly down and my shield gone too

[magic atlas]

i'm not even motivated to log in let alone do the manhunt

[fiery cloud]

Hey Everyone hope your having a great gaming day

[opal radish]

Hi spah

[fiery cloud]

time to do the manhunt

[rough sleet]

\o/

[shrewd dawn]

One question. Are clans dead on consoles?

[astral jacinth]

Most clans are in all platforms

But not mine I keep it active

[upper oriole]

[viscid sigil]

I’m relatively new to the game and I have a dps build currently and wanna try something else anybody have any recommendations?

[icy kelp]

i bought premium credits off steam and i dont have them yet do i need to reset the game?

or what am i supposed to do

[rough sleet]

you can try logging off steam & ubiconnect then load game back up but usually it's just a matter of waiting until the clients sync up.... shrug

[lavish rampart]

quick question, they fixed something with double companion (i never used that meta stuff) but did they fix the thing where it like triggered without a skill being nearby or did they "fix" it by not letting the perfect companion and normal companion stack %'s ?

[icy kelp]

ik this is the case in most games but jesus it normaly takes 20 secs or so

[rough sleet]

they fixed the activation without ally/skill nearby yes. the stacking of chest/backpack is intended IIRC.

[lavish rampart]

ty for the info

[full zinc]

Eclipse protocol burn build, artillery turret skill build are both pretty good 👍

[viscid sigil]

Interesting

I’ll look I tot hat thank you I’m using St Elmo’s and a dps build rn but I don’t like the lack of survivablity

[kind veldt]

could use heartbreaker with that combo

[full zinc]

Not with elmo

[viscid sigil]

I wanted to try a build with galvanize

[full zinc]

Eclipse works good as crowd control. A lot use creeping death for it but with foam and scorpio spreading status you would trigger galvanize a lot

[drifting ore]

Is the new gamemode good for xp gain? since you dont seem to get a lot of loot from it

if not, whats the fastest way of getting xp so i can run the season pretty quick?

[frozen meadow]

Just things like control points or public executions

[drifting ore]

oh so still open world stuff then, thats okey

[frozen meadow]

Just not convoys anymore

[drifting ore]

whats the decent good for? absolutley nothing?

[frozen meadow]

Exclusive blueprints

[drifting ore]

oh

havent tried the gamemode so gonna have to, just wanna speedrun to elmos rifle

[glacial oar]

Like what ?

[full zinc]

Do daily and weekly projects. Good xp on top of whatever the activities give. The area between tidal and the obelisk has a ton of activities like public executions, propaganda broadcasts...

[rough sleet]

most (minus 2) season 1-4 named item blueprints....

[drifting ore]

right right, forgot you had weekly/daily in this game. been a while 😛

[full zinc]

Even countdown gives ok xp, just under an shd level a run. It's not as fast as openworld tho

[drifting ore]

last time i played was when countdown came out i think, got kinda boring after that many runs i did

i feel open world is abit more fun in the long run

[full zinc]

Yeah for sure, and you can add directives for better returns

[viscid sigil]

Ooo

What is eclipse?

[lavish rampart]

a gear set focused on status effects

[rose kraken]

how does the clan vendor work? does it appear in any regular vendor or what?

[upper oriole]

if you are in a clan, they will appear in the Base of Operations, in the Clan Wing of the base..
if you are not in a clan, you will not have access to that portion of the base..

[rose kraken]

and the clan wing is the area below the heli pad?

[upper oriole]

behind the heli.. inside the Base itself..

[rose kraken]

ah

yeah im not really the sharpest, 40 hrs in game

[upper oriole]

lol i have been playing since release.. was in a clan for about 2 months before i was getting trolled for my build ideas (by one player), so i left..
no vendor for me!

[full zinc]

When you apply a status, use foam as an example, when foamed npc is killed by you or any of your team any status that is active will spread to every npc withing 15m (10m of not using eclipse chest).
It will have less duration on spread but makes a single foam shot go a long way.

Fire status is particularly effective for a damage eclipse setup (includes ep backpack 30% amp damage).

Fire is better in challenging and lower (speedrun type of stuff)

Crowd control setup (foam & jammer/shock trap/fire sticky)
Is better for heroic+

I personally use a ep crowd control setup in countdown pretty exclusively.

Capacitor on fire setups, scorpio on cc setups

[full zinc]

Probably tons of open clans if you need to hit the clan vendor, then bounce , no strings 👍

[fiery cloud]

just did the manhunt

[glacial oar]

I think 30 summit floors even on Normal in Summit is WAY to much

[fiery cloud]

oh your doing the summit weekly

[karmic dust]

Thinking about jumping back into the game….how is the PC matchmaking?

Any difficulty and/or missions or strongholds that are easier to group up with people than others

Really loved this game a few years ago and want to jump back in it. Tried to matchmake a few months ago and I think it was the Summit or another game mode glitched out. Basically, there were no enemies

Usually play on the hardest difficulty regardless if the rewards are only a little bit than the difficulty below it. When the challenge is really tough, it makes the game more fun.

[frozen meadow]

Old season blueprints and some named/dz exclusives

[tulip plume]

its usually pretty solid. if you cant find people for something tho, theres always #lfg-pc . youll probably find the most people matchmaking in challenging or heroic

[kind veldt]

lv 40 is pretty easy to matchmake

in doubt can call for backup

[brave yacht]

Can some one help me

[fiery cloud]

whats up

[tulip plume]

no

[brave yacht]

I need help in the dz to farm I keep getting three ma Ed team by people like identity7

[dire ravine]

just change servers

[brave yacht]

How

[dire ravine]

You can still farm in whatever dz you're in but either log out and log back in or walk out main dz door then back in

[brave yacht]

K

[dire ravine]

And when I say walk out out I mean like turn around and walk out towards the vendor or main game area

[signal blade]

When in doubt just do the old bait and switch, fire a flare at an extraction point, then go to another point and launch there

[brave yacht]

I want to fight just don't ever have a team

[signal blade]

Then go rambo

Rambo didn't have a team and look how much ass he kicked

I legit have no other advice than, if you wanna fight, then have at 'em lmao

[tulip plume]

ive spent about an hour in the dz and ive never killed another player there xd

[signal blade]

I stick by myself and just farm resources

If some shoots, I shoot back. If I die I try again that's all there is to it

[brave yacht]

I. Trying g to do pvp but I ain't superman

[signal blade]

When in doubt, throw a decoy and book it around a corner lmao

[frozen meadow]

I go after weaker levels or people already rogue

I don't pick fights I don't have a 95% chance of winning

[finite hare]

Weak sauce. Lmfao😆

[vernal hatch]

Sadly guys I had lost hope I will never get the catharsis mask let me know when it drops in the target lootpool then I will redownload it

[finite hare]

Damn. Feel you on that dawg.

[coarse mortar]

hey anyone know why i cant access the manhunt?

[fiery cloud]

what lvl are you

[coarse mortar]

im watch level 530

[fiery cloud]

hmmmm

[coarse mortar]

can i send you a screenshot?

[fiery cloud]

please

[coarse mortar]

of what my manhunt screen loks like

[bitter wraith]

I just did snitch bounty and it didn't say bounty complete but now there's no cassie on map there should be??

[hybrid ore]

You don't actually need to do the Snitch Bounty for Cassie to show up anymore, just activating the Snitch will do it.
Once you do, a shopping cart icon should appear somewhere on the map. Try restarting, may be bugged.

[tulip plume]

i just hate playing pvp in most fps games. its not fun to be constantly annihlated by meta slaves and people with 200 hours only in conflict
you could give the "git gud" argument, but everything in the dz can be earned through other means without pvping, ie. named crates and solo dz lobbies. "gitting gud" isnt worth the effort, time, and pain imo

[finite hare]

I wasnt talking to you when I commented weak sauce. @tulip plume

[tulip plume]

yea ik. he was talking to me. im of mostly the same mind as him

[finite hare]

Very true. I absolutely hate going against people with skill builds in PvP.

[finite hare]

Ah, yes, very good

They act like we are supposed to prepare ourselves to go against every and any build in pvp

[drifting shale]

Is there a way to change the displayed talent in Descent

I'd rather see my adaptive instincts stacks versus a different stack

[haughty siren]

I think I may need a new clan to join. The clan i'm in seems to only have 2 to 3 people that play. I want to get better at pvp & do a lot of raids.

[hybrid ore]

Just leave it and go have a look over in #td2-clan-recruitment, you'll find one that's more active I'm sure.

[fast harness]

Man I wish they would update the standard apparel cache

Like most of the clothes are just blue credits

[fluid haven]

how long does it take to reach shd lvl 1000 lmaooo

[hybrid ore]

There's mathematical formula's to work out optimal SHD gains and such, but tbh: don't rush it.

Div2 is meant to be a slower game, it's a marathon, not a sprint.

[fast harness]

@hybrid ore question though, why don't they update the apparel caches? Nobody is going to buy their credits.

Like, maybe when the game is done on its last year they should make some things more available.

Because that stuff itself just looks useless as is.

[hybrid ore]

There's 3 more seasons, and another DLC during the 4th.
so I doubt that the game is actually going to be done at that point, unless it's a "goodbye" kinda DLC.

but regardless: they actually do update the cache loot pool every now and then, but it's been a while.

[fast harness]

with the same stuff most people already have? Plus why don't they even add in older sets that are from 2 years ago?

[hybrid ore]

The store was changed a while back to "update" things, basically what happened is a bunch of stuff that was available to buy for Textiles no longer is.
I assume the lack of more potential freebies in the free cache is related to that change.
All assumptions, I'm not in the know or anything.
but it tracks IMO.

[dire ravine]

man remember when you would get duplicates in apparel it would give you xp instead good times

[fast harness]

makes sense.

[neat sedge]

my RNG cracked for about 5 minutes

"I need to go get a duplicate St. Elmos now that I'm back to playing the game"
literally first drop in my first round of countdown, get St. Elmos, was thinking of farming a third one for my other alt, buy Exotic caches from Countdown shop, another St Elmos

[fast harness]

are exotic caches shared?

[neat sedge]

don't believe so

[fast harness]

i meant the drops

[hybrid ore]

The "weekly exotic cache"'s loot is sharable if you obtain it whilst that person is in your group.

[fast harness]

Oh. So it's not any other cache you get.

[dire ravine]

If someone is in your group and there are exotic caches you can claim thru global events and leagues you can share as long as you claim them while they are in your group

[full venture]

so uh, we do HAVE a friendly hutner or it is just a glitch

Since i definitely saw a figure at the end of the mission and it's green

plot is thickening my guys

[dire ravine]

Ye it was like that in a past manhunt

[full venture]

I guess it's the glitch then. damn

[dire ravine]

No not a glitch

I just meant it also happened with the one watching in I think it was Gen Anderson manhunt

[full venture]

i mean the figure that turn green when we point at it ?

yoooooooo how did i miss it ?

[dire ravine]

It wasn't the one at pentco I'm tired so can't remember which manhunt think it was at Jefferson trade mission manhunt

We saw him twice

[full venture]

what i saw is the guy with red mask

[dire ravine]

Ye same one

[full venture]

sheessh

whats next in Y5S2 then beside the among us in dc

[dire ravine]

Bruh can't wait to see what happens

[wind turret]

So I see the trello board got updated today with status effect weapons getting a rebalance , best news I have heard as the shock meta in PvP is the most cringe thing that anyone could think of came up with , fine for PvE but in PvP it take no skill to get stacks and go rogue and shock people 💩

[dire ravine]

But Elmo the easiest thing to counter in pvp unlike shottys kingbreaker

[lofty bone]

The mari manhunt feels poorly laid out, running around trying to find the objectives

[frozen meadow]

I kinda liked it

Finally a mission where we can't just hit every button to open everything

In the real world you don't have an orange beacon staring you in the face over an objective

[hybrid ore]

The bounty area where they don't mark that a door can be opened has taught me to avoid any mission with poorly/unmarked objectives like the plague.

[frozen meadow]

I feel like they did it that way on purpose

[hybrid ore]

Yeah I'm happy if others enjoy that design, but I personally can not stand it.

[frozen meadow]

So you don't like raids I presume

[hybrid ore]

Not poorly designed ones, no.

[wind turret]

@dire ravine true but again there is no SKILL involved any idiot can get the gun the go rogue and shock people , again trash meta for PvP ,at this stage even the shield meta was more fun and actually needed some skill

[dire ravine]

I get that it's funny everyone complained bout in sync and shield and then they all use kingbreaker spotter which is more damage and zero skill to use just point the gun

I just want some balance for pvp

[lofty bone]

am i missing something after rescuing mari

[dire ravine]

Wdym did you go back to castle talk to her

[lofty bone]

yeah, it just ends. is that it lol

[dire ravine]

Ye that's it

[hot dirge]

;

[vague flicker]

i need help with the wraith mask ,im here asking for this because i have tried it all but the darn hunter is not appearing

[hybrid ore]

For actual help you're going to have to stick down in #lfg-pc, but as for any potential glitches: You're following the guide exactly?

[sterile ferry]

maybe its a night-only hunter and youre spawning it during day?

[dire ravine]

Ye make sure you're doing it at the right time and saluting the flagpole if I'm remembering correctly been a long time since I've done it

[hybrid ore]

And haven't done the Hunt before on the same character.
If it's the flag-pole one, it's also known to glitch out.

[vague flicker]

yes it spawns at night, well last thing im gonna try is at midnight

[sterile ferry]

after 9pm should be good

[opal radish]

and before 6-7AM

[sterile ferry]

^

and obviously we're talking about in-game time, not irl

[opal radish]

lol the photo mode in game is useless as it doesn't pause the game for even 5s

[sterile ferry]

if you wanna see the time you can just press Esc

[opal radish]

yeah ik but photo mode is for capturing photos what is the point if the moment passes

[shrewd dawn]

Is it just me or raid on consoles are dead?

[spring dome]

hello everyone

[spring dome]

If you queue with randoms yeah, but earlier today i did my first IH and doing an L4G proved fruitful

[opal radish]

you have to look for someone in #lfg-raid-console

[opal radish]

if you did with matchmaking than you missed nearly all the mechanic of the raid

[spring dome]

Nah, didnt do matchmaking. Got a buncha nice people in xbox's looking for group feature, of course it took 4 hours because me and my two friends were doing it for the first timd

[sterile ferry]

nobody matchmakes for discovery difficulty since you cant get any exclusive loot and the mechanics are different so it cant even be used as a learning experiance

[opal radish]

nice

[shrewd dawn]

Im saying that bcs everyone leaves when raid starts

[opal radish]

are you matchmaking raid? than you are certainly doing it wrong

[spring dome]

If youre doing randos then they prolly just judge you by watch level

[shrewd dawn]

Then how to make 8 ppl to raid on normal?

[spring dome]

Looking for group post, make mic required. Usually talkers are more forgiving, especially if the rest of the group is high lvl

[shrewd dawn]

IT can be preferred?

[spring dome]

On xbox you can make mic required

[shrewd dawn]

And when high level starts?

[opal radish]

SHD != Raid Experience

[spring dome]

I dunno an exact figure, but the group i was with today saw watch level 200 as still wet behind the ears

[opal radish]

you need good builds

[spring dome]

That too yeah

And whatever you pull off of youtube aint good most the time

[opal radish]

go to #td2-build-advice check the pinned spreadsheet for guides on build

[spring dome]

Oh i already know what im doing for a build, unfortunately my friend who needs it the most doesnt use discord

[opal radish]

than play with him and farm together and share pcs with him that is the best bet

also without mic raids are nearly impossible you have to match timming/levers etc

[shrewd dawn]

Making a clan worth IT?

[opal radish]

if you have a group of few friends than yeah

[shrewd dawn]

Solo no?

[sterile ferry]

you need a minimum of 4 people to gain access to the clan vendor

[opal radish]

for solo you are fine without it even than join a relaxed clan

by in game clan finder

[spring dome]

Good thing my clan is 7 people, 4 of which are long gone

[opal radish]

lol

[shrewd dawn]

The worst is that 100% of these clans are inactive, there were days where only I was online

[fickle rampart]

randos probably think you're a rando lmao

[hybrid ore]

The term "rando" is just slang for "random person I don't know".
It's not derogatory or demeaning in any way.

[stuck onyx]

I finally got Catharsis!

[hybrid ore]

Was it cathartic?

[opal radish]

no

[hybrid ore]

So you don't have catharsis then?

[sterile ferry]

dad joke?

[opal radish]

i have one

[hybrid ore]

I think in my case it's technically a crazy aunt joke.

[hybrid ore]

I bet that was cathartic.

[sterile ferry]

again...??!

[opal radish]

lol

wish the wd boost was permanent till out of combat

[harsh portal]

Have all the voice channels been removed from this Discord server?

[sterile ferry]

yeah

[harsh portal]

Any idea why?

[sterile ferry]

they werent really possible to be moderated

text can easily be moderated but not voice, and there were too many VCs

[hybrid ore]

That's not really the full answer.
tl;dr they were removed by Ubisoft, we personally didn't mind them.

see #discord-news for a message from them.

[inner elbow]

I wonder if Ubi staff also conduct meetings via text, since it's hard to moderate VCs 😆

[fair lake]

I wish I could talk to these "hard-working" support team employees... Guess, I'd be banned in a second 💀

[silent nymph]

man the custody and fish fry coms have got to be the funniest one that i have ever laughed at

especially the fish fry one

[lean cosmos]

There are voice channels on the other division discord server

[halcyon radish]

They does support me to think my job performance wasn't the worst 💀

[opal radish]

lol

[full zinc]

Just let then know you "want to talk to the manager"

[hybrid ore]

Making near threats about anyone will get you banned a lot faster.
Let's just pretend that's not what you meant.

[kind veldt]

i'm crazy or this game only has 2 burst fire weapons? 3 if you count merciless

[rare vapor]

4

Merciless, M4, Ravenous, 93R

[rich shadow]

They're all rubbish, it's not that type of game

[rare vapor]

actually scratch Ravenous

[kind veldt]

yea it's a double barrel, didnt count on purpose

[rare vapor]

instead of burst fire, it fires 2 rounds

[kind veldt]

yeah i know they are are rubbish just thinking it's the same as div1

well in that we both FAL and MP5 with burst fire, neither really great

[rare vapor]

they are not rubbish, its just Dev did not care for them enough to make them relevant.

[rich shadow]

It's cos burst fire has no place in a looter shooter where NPC's have huge health pools

[rare vapor]

i disagree

[kind veldt]

thye would if they damage went up

you cna make a m16 work but at that point you are just stacking enough talents for any gun to work

[rich shadow]

sure, if you increase the damage way above other weapons on the same category then yea - but they don't, so.

[rare vapor]

burst fire weapon in Destiny is pretty insane. Warzone and Apex was all about that burstfire.

[kind veldt]

was just double checking what rifles they added post launch

[rare vapor]

Devs need to care about them to make sense

[rich shadow]

if recoil was a thing, and enemies went down with less shots, sure

[kind veldt]

and they were both just 30 round spammy rifles

[rich shadow]

But this game is focussed around DPS, and burst is wasted time

[rare vapor]

because devs didnt care enough

Back in TU12 PTS1? Merciless got a huge buff due to the weapon handling stat, people spamming it so damn hard because it had 0 recoil like Elmos, and the video went viral. Then devs nerfed the sh1t out of the mods on Merciless, and then it went from godly to trash in just 2 weeks.

[rich shadow]

i remember that, shame they nerfed it into oblivion

[rare vapor]

it was killing elites faster than Famas

[rich shadow]

on another note, i dislike spamming the trigger too

my mouse does no likey

[rare vapor]

Chronos users be like

[kind veldt]

yeah that's my biggest gripe with 30 round low damage rifles

they will break your mouse faster than kill enemies

[shrewd dawn]

Is secret assignment worth it?

[kind veldt]

buffing burst fire weapons would avoid that problem

[rare vapor]

well the devs put in a dud code back in TU15

it makes you have sticky mouse

if you spam your mouse super fast, it wont register half the time. you need to press it in rhysm to the RPM of the gun

if you use Striker and shoot a Scorpio and spam your cliks as fast as you can, you are only getting half of the clicks registered, which makes it shoot slower than with no Striker.

[sterile ferry]

just for unlocking additional fast travel points id say yeah

[shrewd dawn]

Only for unlock? What about xp?

[sterile ferry]

xp isnt worth it, they also go on cooldowns so you cant spam them like a main mission

[fair lake]

No, threatening is boring and dumb. There are always other interesting ways 👀

[tight elbow]

any soltuion to
"Launch error. Unrecognized game client, cannot continue"?

I've verified files and excluded TheDivision2.exe in my AV.

[full zinc]

Sure sounds like a dumb reason to get bent out of shape anyways. Much less banned for...
Private vc can be made in seconds and is free 🍿

[real creek]

Quick google search says you probably need to just do a full reinstall, some say it'll help to disable virus programs on install then you can turn it back on after.

[tight elbow]

Will a fake re-install do? As in copy game files, start downloading and replace with old files then verify?

[oak prawn]

Yea then those private VCs get leaked next thing you know you got fbi busting down your door 😂

[real creek]

Depends on how fast your internet is. A reinstall is the way I'd go but I've got fast internet. If you do go thru all this and it's still doesn't help I did read it's easy anti cheat so in reinstalling doesn't help you might have to look up a guide to reinstalling EAC.

[tight elbow]

Fookin hell, always some sort of problems with this game.
Thanks for the help! I'll do a full uninstall and re-install

[fair night]

Could also be a issue with Where is installed depending on your OS.
Sometimes the game being in a separate location from the launcher can do this.
Say if you have the game on SSD and the launcher on Your hard drive perhaps?
My #1 cause for issues is driver updates though. Cheers

[keen osprey]

It seems to be one rule for some and another rule for others. Siege discord has voice channels, a game with many more players. 😒 i never used them on here but im sure they helped to get raid groups set up.

True, Serj is a very active channel member so it would be odd for them to bite the hand that feeds them.

[gritty pagoda]

is there something static in the DZ that you can shoot that counts towards stacks on St. Elmo's? I was PvP-ing a guy and he'd die and after respawn would have his shock rounds almost immediately. even when I run straight to a Heroic landmark it takes me a minute or two to get 100 stacks.

[carmine bramble]

Will grand hotel ever be invaded?

[real creek]

Yes. Might be another couple weeks tho. Trying to get the nemesis blueprint?

[sterile ferry]

Pray to rng

[tender notch]

it does get invaded but completely random as to when it does.

longest ive seen is 8 weeks between it being invaded, just check each week tbh.

[carmine bramble]

@real creek yes, I think its now been over 2 month since it last got invaded

[real creek]

Oh no you just missed it a couple weeks back.

[rough sleet]

RNG works in mysterious ways....but the more you want it, the less likely you'll get it....RNG knows your wants/needs.

[carmine bramble]

@rough sleet developers should not have bp only obtainable through invaded certain missions and not have it invaded. Its ridiculous.

Hope it doesn't take years till grand hotel get invaded..

Lol

[opal radish]

might play with someone to bypass the farming

[real creek]

Yeah get some people together and run targeted loot snipers. I've given a couple nem away.

[opal radish]

me too not that difficult to drop

[real creek]

Obviously the people you run with need to have it already.

[carmine bramble]

Getting people who already has it, willing to do targeted root in summit is hard though..

[tender notch]

well, they just need to own the blueprint for it 😛, dont need to own the gun.

summit or countdown FYI. for farming

[carmine bramble]

I also can't seem to get vile mask

[opal radish]

Luck Issue

[tender notch]

its in target loot, so can just farm it. also still RNG like all things

[opal radish]

try farming masks in cd /summit

the best way to farm is with someone

trade target loot

[real creek]

Yeah I'd just smash out count down TL for MMR, you'll get some nice WD out of it and fill up your recal library all while getting countdown tokens to buy exo caches.

You can even ask your lobby to drop nemesis, maybe they'll have the luck for you.

[opal radish]

don't you know serj has 10% UBI Ownership just like EB Drop rate

anyone need floor 69 checkpoint? 👀

[sterile ferry]

thats a nice checkpoint

[opal radish]

that's why i am asking never playing summit to keep that

[real creek]

Nice

[full zinc]

The square root of that has more significance

[viscid sigil]

I’ve gotta hunt down all the hunters

I need that case

[real creek]

Case?

[viscid sigil]

The ivory case

[full zinc]

Keys case

[viscid sigil]

You need 8 ivory keys

[real creek]

Ah, never heard it referred to as such.

Well you gotta do the things and they do the poof and you do the pew and boom, GOTTEM.

[opal radish]

it is in Washington just left to the stash

[viscid sigil]

Yeah

[viscid sigil]

That’s for 2 of them I need 8 keys

I believe that is only 2 hunters at least

[opal radish]

look for a guide online NBZ has a good guide for this

[viscid sigil]

NBZ

Is that someone on YT

[opal radish]

nothingbutskillz yt

[full zinc]

Yeah skillz

[viscid sigil]

Ooo that’s new to who I normally watch

[opal radish]

who do you watch?

[viscid sigil]

Doom

[full zinc]

No bananas allowed in chat

🤣

[viscid sigil]

He just does builds tho

[opal radish]

your division future is doomed

[viscid sigil]

Why..? I’m sorry I’m new to the game

[real creek]

🤮

[full zinc]

All good. Kvd just has a rep among builders

[real creek]

Sorry but that guys builds are horrible. Once you learn builds it'll all make sense.

[viscid sigil]

A bad one?

[viscid sigil]

I’m new to the game and my friend set me up with a dps build but I’m still learning everything

[full zinc]

Nbs has pretty quick hunter videos.

Yeah kinda. Pushes one stat while overlooking others .
Some are probably ok, some are gimmicks

[viscid sigil]

I almost have all the plate carrier talents and I have all the backpack ones

[viscid sigil]

He seems to enjoy St Elmos a lot

[full zinc]

There is a solid build list /breakdowns pinned in #td2-build-advice

[keen osprey]

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/to-bite-the-hand-that-feeds-you

[real creek]

All good man, being new is no problem it's just the game is math intensive and there is a difference between what good and what isn't but you can use whatever you want cause you enjoy it or like the looks.

[viscid sigil]

I came over from destiny 2 the math isn’t gonna be an issue nor the grind

[viscid sigil]

I have a ninja bike Famas and a Scorpio right now

[full zinc]

Its not just kvd. A lot of the yt creators have kinda gimmicky click bait type builds

[viscid sigil]

I see

[real creek]

Oh but for doom the math seems to be non existent.

I honestly don't like any build videos unless they link a spreadsheet or show numbers for comparison. Dod is the man for that.

[viscid sigil]

Hmm ok

[full zinc]

I'll just goto his source 😅 where's raucey😎

[bitter wraith]

Why do credits not carry over??????

Materials do and credits don't

[full zinc]

Because they dont.

Same with components food and water