td2-general-chat

[candid stag]

U can’t

[sullen edge]

any shd farm methods suggestions? i mean what should i farm for shd levels?

[oak prawn]

If your build is good open world heroic 4 or 5 directives

Each CP is 1 level and the other activities give you between 300-400 k

Throw in bounties

Best farming spot is west end

Lot of activities and 3 CPs

Do a gauntlet then reset and repeat you can easily ocer 10 SHD levels per gauntlet

[vague flicker]

do invaded dz don't have turrets?

[sullen edge]

so how do u reset

like i just have to tp smwere else

and tp back near?

[oak prawn]

No they are disabled

For the duration of the invasion

[sturdy dragon]

@sullen edge When on the map you've a button "reset all CP"

[steep bone]

What’s going on people

[candid stag]

Is there women’s playing the division 2 ?

[oak prawn]

why wouldnt there be?

[candid stag]

Because i didn’t saw a single women in the game

[oak prawn]

women do play the game

[candid stag]

Prove it

[undone timber]

There's a raid leader here in SG and she's a woman

Idk if she still raids tho

[oak prawn]

i can name a few who play the game

rivens eevee

heart huntress

[candid stag]

Are they fat ?

[undone timber]

What does that have to do with anything at all

[steep bone]

Hello

[undone timber]

Heya

[steep bone]

I just came back to the game, I had no idea how deep it was

[candid stag]

I want a women’s team asap

[undone timber]

Once you get a build going the game gets much less deep

Until you get into raids then it gets deeper

[steep bone]

Glad to see a living community

[undone timber]

Check the lfg channels

[oak prawn]

there is till a pvp community but its very small but dedicated

[undone timber]

Can't wait for the incursion tbh

[steep bone]

I was just checking out builds. That’s hard to manage

[undone timber]

With target loot it's a breeze g

[oak prawn]

#td2-build-advice has a spreadsheet in the pinned comment with all builds if you want to check em out

[undone timber]

Gearset builds generally very easy to put together and use

[candid stag]

Does buying account make me banned from the game ?

[steep bone]

I’m running a dps heavy but I feel like I’m missing out on skills

[undone timber]

It's not permitted to buy or sell accounts

[oak prawn]

you could run a hybrid build

[undone timber]

Imo if you're going for damage don't worry about skills

[steep bone]

I do like armor but it disappears as soon as I get a couple of hits lol

[candid stag]

Thx bro

[oak prawn]

thats what you sign up for when you go all red you trade armor for dps

[candid stag]

Slay

[prisma hull]

is it normal that i cant see the voice chats 😭

[undone timber]

Armour is virtually useless outside of dedicated tank builds for raids and things

[oak prawn]

they have beent aken out

[prisma hull]

ohh

[candid stag]

Yes

[steep bone]

Very true found out the hard way

[oak prawn]

yea the legal team had them removed

[prisma hull]

sadge

man div 2 on pc is so diff that xbox

[undone timber]

If you wanna you could post your build in build advice and get some pointers

[prisma hull]

startin from scratch n it sucksss

[steep bone]

Really now, I’m trying to protect DC so I’m cleaning up all areas to be green

[oak prawn]

that was me i feel you now i am SHD 1050 with multiple builds and alot of gear

[prisma hull]

i wad uh

maybe 500 on xbox?

[steep bone]

How do I do that? Just a picture?

[prisma hull]

with a decent build n stuff

[oak prawn]

1 thing i do not like about pc is the crashing

[prisma hull]

😭

ay anbu you on rn?

[candid stag]

Can i transfer my ps5 account to pc ?

[steep bone]

If you starting from scratch I can help I’m new too. You on PS?

[prisma hull]

nah pc mate

[oak prawn]

nah watching a movie on tubi atm why?

[prisma hull]

was gonna see if you wanted to help me out 😭

[candid stag]

Why do u play on pc ?

[oak prawn]

what level are you?

[steep bone]

That’s fine good luck Agent

[prisma hull]

legit runnin thru ny rn just started

so 31

[undone timber]

Yup

[oak prawn]

you on WONY?

[prisma hull]

[candid stag]

Hey

[prisma hull]

yeah

[candid stag]

Answer my question

[oak prawn]

id call for backup

and hope you get someone whos willing to do all of WONY wit you

[sterile ferry]

or call multiple times and have multiple people join

[candid stag]

Hey

Can i transfer my ps5 account to pc ?

[sterile ferry]

not as far as i know

this game doesnt support cross save / cross play

[candid stag]

Because u are noob but i love u like my little brother

God bless u

[full jay]

question. If i reroll stats on a exotic with expertise levels, do i lose the expertise?

[oak prawn]

no

[full jay]

so i can reroll as much as i need to? nice

[civic canyon]

Why would you make two exotics have the ability to reroll they third attribute but not all exotics and the st Elmo’s has the most op mods for exotics. Just let us customize the attachments on exotics, like taking a 20 percent crit chance mod from st Elmo’s and put it on a big horn

[small spear]

afaik when that was first done with the sacrum it was unintended, but they saw how the community loved it and rolled with it going forward. they just didn't do it for the previous ones

[civic canyon]

It doesn’t make sense to have the st Elmo’s be so OP with the mods and being able to change the third attribute and not be able to do the same with other exotic weapons that are very lacking and barely even usable

[sterile ferry]

aka damage to targets out of cover on everything

might as well have dtoc on every exotic, whats the point of randomizing?

[small spear]

waste player's exo components ofc

[civic canyon]

Or just let us recalibrate exotics

Use 10 exotic components to change the mod slot on a exotic weapon

Put 30 percent headshot scope on eagle beater for 10 components or something

These developers could really do something with this game but do everything the opposite of making it better

[sterile ferry]

anybody on pc wanna reach loop 40 on descent? my ign is iDespiseGeology

[gaunt rapids]

ye

[undone timber]

You cannot

[frozen meadow]

No you can't lmao

[candid stag]

Stick with ur answer

[candid stag]

You are a women ??!

[frozen meadow]

What does this have to do with the conversation

[undone timber]

💀💀

[frozen meadow]

Ikr

[undone timber]

This don was in chat earlier asking if women played the game and you came up

[candid stag]

Idk but i thought 99% of the women’s play overwatch or gunshit

[sterile ferry]

totally not a creep

[frozen meadow]

Wow that is not as misogynistic as I expected

[candid stag]

No no

[frozen meadow]

There's plenty of women who play this game lmao

[candid stag]

Don’t misunderstand me bro

[frozen meadow]

I'm not

[candid stag]

I meant that’s a great thing to find a women playing the game

[frozen meadow]

Because you're not doubling down on what you said; that's how you weed out misogynists

[opal radish]

you are talking to the don of the server

[frozen meadow]

What in fucks name does that mean

[opal radish]

she hijacked this server from ubi

[undone timber]

💀

[opal radish]

Don?

[candid stag]

It’s just random 3 letters

[frozen meadow]

I could be ubi and you'd never know 👀

[undone timber]

Either a mafia boss or in UK slang just some guy lmao

[opal radish]

mafia boss

[candid stag]

What does ubi mean ?

[opal radish]

Ubi in disguise

[opal radish]

ubisoft

[candid stag]

She works in ubi ?

[undone timber]

Possibly who knows

[opal radish]

yeah

[frozen meadow]

I've gotten DMS from people thinking I am 👀

[opal radish]

I have seen one hilarious af

[undone timber]

👀

[candid stag]

Ayy bro ban the cheaters in th DZ

[frozen meadow]

Nah they be vibing

[opal radish]

😂 😂

[undone timber]

Why go to the dz in the first place fam

Ain't nothing in there you can't get from caches

[candid stag]

To chase people

[opal radish]

people will chase you just say i have EB

[candid stag]

They get mad when i chase them so they kill me

[candid stag]

I don’t open mic

I just play solo

[opal radish]

you can type

[candid stag]

Im in ps5 idk how to do it

[undone timber]

I didn't know you could type on console for an embarrassingly long time

It's hidden away in the settings

[candid stag]

Bro u type like on nokia keyboard so slow

[opal radish]

i will not think that you can type on consoles must be a sh!t experience 🤣🤣

[sterile ferry]

can you use a keyboard to type on console cause with a controller i imagine it must be painful

[candid stag]

I don’t type either i just chase people until they kill me

[undone timber]

I mean yeah but no

[sterile ferry]

is that a yes or no

[undone timber]

I'm fairly certain you can plug in a keyboard but idk about having both simultaneously

[opal radish]

you should try i have seen one

[candid stag]

U are American right ?

[undone timber]

Microsoft had some kind of integrated keyboard for the controller for this specific thing but it flopped

[undone timber]

British mate😭

[candid stag]

Why do u use xbox ?

[opal radish]

Her Majesty

[undone timber]

I grew up with a 360 so

[opal radish]

because he like xbox

[sterile ferry]

why the f*ck do you care

[undone timber]

Dead💀

[candid stag]

Because xbox is half a console

[opal radish]

noo

[undone timber]

Wh-

[candid stag]

And the other half is pc

[opal radish]

lmao

[undone timber]

Also halo is a banging series

[candid stag]

U are using xbox and play halo u should be American

[undone timber]

But I'm British so

[frozen meadow]

I can't wait until they add the new exotic MMR, it'll change pvp 👀

[opal radish]

it's not a law or a fact

[undone timber]

They're adding another one?

[sterile ferry]

what new mmr?

[candid stag]

What does lad mean

[opal radish]

sacrum imperium

[sterile ferry]

didnt that come out last season?

[undone timber]

Same as bro

[frozen meadow]

#td2-general-chat message

[candid stag]

Ok nice to meet u my friend

[opal radish]

discord app is great on mobile /s

[sterile ferry]

whats the source on that one?

[undone timber]

You come up with that or is that an actual exotic talent

[candid stag]

Thank u

[frozen meadow]

I find it funny you can't tell 👀

[opal radish]

she definitely came up with that

[undone timber]

Theoretically couldn't you just dump 20 shots into any target

[sterile ferry]

well i didnt hear any of the official sources telling that so im calling bs

[undone timber]

Given how shit sacrum is I honestly don't know anymore😭

[frozen meadow]

No because its 1 second

[sterile ferry]

also 20% health damage in pvp per 1 second is just busted

[frozen meadow]

Better run some hazpro 👀

[opal radish]

no because you have to take off armor

[undone timber]

So 20 shots over 20 seconds

[sterile ferry]

better stop BSing?

[candid stag]

When the division 3 gonna release ?

[sterile ferry]

tomorrow

source: trust me bro

[opal radish]

today

[undone timber]

Doesn't poison bypass armour

[sterile ferry]

it does

[opal radish]

yeah didn't read just guessing

[undone timber]

Ah

[candid stag]

How much cost

[opal radish]

poision is scary stat

[sterile ferry]

your typical 69.99

[undone timber]

$69

[opal radish]

about 300Million$

[frozen meadow]

Players be complaining about SHD levels in pvp, so I introduce poison darts

[candid stag]

That’s nasty

[sterile ferry]

you can buy ubisoft with that

[opal radish]

not really they have a billion dollar cap

[thorny talon]

Why ?

[candid stag]

Because i will buy it

[undone timber]

Wouldn't it have to be exploit levels of high to make a difference

[opal radish]

keep waiting till eternity

[sterile ferry]

im sure theyll go bankrupt without your 69.99

[frozen meadow]

Doesn't matter with poison

Poison doesn't care about your feelings

[undone timber]

The health bonus I mean

[opal radish]

no because poision is % based afaik

[thorny talon]

Go buy something different 😒

[candid stag]

Guy i will ask serious question

[sterile ferry]

nope?

[candid stag]

Why ?

[opal radish]

really?

[sterile ferry]

its a flat damage?

i mean i never tested but wouldnt make sense for it to be percentage

[opal radish]

i am guessing from talent

[thorny talon]

Because you are headed deep into division

[undone timber]

Ubi tends to dissapoint

[opal radish]

she might have given %based poision to balance for high shd

[frozen meadow]

Just make a gun do percentage based poison damage on base health. So you can run +health attributes to take an extra shot

[sterile ferry]

they should just cap the shd at 1000

[candid stag]

What did u like the most the div 1 or 2

[thorny talon]

We need fist fight in division ammo is over agents fight like mortal kombat characters

[opal radish]

look at prince of Persia and splintet cell

[thorny talon]

div 2 solos

[opal radish]

div1 better imo in player experience

[undone timber]

I still go back to div1 for the winter atmosphere and underground but yeah div2 on the whole much better

[frozen meadow]

Mate last manhunts main mission was fucking awesome

[candid stag]

I play the div for 9 years

[sterile ferry]

div2 did pve better, except for voice acting 🤢

[thorny talon]

Ubi should send grass as achievement for you 🤓

[undone timber]

Not division wise but like with all their franchises

[frozen meadow]

I don't play enough Ubisoft games to speak for others

After all I'm definitely not a division dev 👀

[candid stag]

I can make a business with the grass

[undone timber]

Butchered assassin's creed killed splinter cell idek where Prince of Persia went

[opal radish]

which was the last manhunt stovepipe

[frozen meadow]

Stovepipe ye

[sterile ferry]

ghost recon future soldier was f*cking awesome

[undone timber]

I heavily agree

[sterile ferry]

and wildlands, and far cry 5

[opal radish]

yeah

[thorny talon]

Hope msv doesnt disappoint starwars 👾

[undone timber]

Far cry 5 had such a beautiful soundtrack

[opal radish]

chaos theory was amazing too

[frozen meadow]

Far cry 5 🚫
Near cry 5: ✅

[thorny talon]

Ok i laughed

[opal radish]

lmao more like river cry 5

[sterile ferry]

ha 😐

[frozen meadow]

Sorry I'm totally not a division dev so I have bad humour

[undone timber]

Splinter cell❌
Splinter battery ✅

[opal radish]

lmao

[candid stag]

Frycry forest edition was the best

[frozen meadow]

Splinter in my finger

[opal radish]

you have played any splinter cell?👀

[frozen meadow]

No because I'm totally not a division dev

[opal radish]

lmao

[undone timber]

Nerf Scorpio and watch the world burn

[sterile ferry]

oh boy

[frozen meadow]

Glo that was seriously unnecessary

Not to mention very discriminatory

[candid stag]

Sorry i was trying the stickers section

[frozen meadow]

Then delete what you just sent

[opal radish]

[sterile ferry]

those are very 2 particular stickers to send right next to each other

[candid stag]

How can I delete it

[sterile ferry]

by pressing delete?

[frozen meadow]

If you're on mobile just tap and hold on the message and press delete

[sterile ferry]

on pc just right click

[opal radish]

by Asking the mods they can do it for you

[sterile ferry]

or delete him

[candid stag]

Don’t worry I deleted them

[frozen meadow]

Now just don't do that again 👀

[opal radish]

🍿

[candid stag]

[candid stag]

Does that cause problems for me?

[sterile ferry]

do we know where the next manhunt mission takes place?

[undone timber]

It will if you do it again😭

[frozen meadow]

If you don't know what you said then you basically just made a discriminatory remark

[undone timber]

I want them to give kenly an actual purpose tbh

[candid stag]

Ok ok my bad

[sterile ferry]

rip codname nightmare

[frozen meadow]

They definitely won't for I am definitely not a division developer

[undone timber]

Why did they even scrap that

[candid stag]

Did anyone play cod mw2 ?

[opal radish]

never happening

i was thinking descent 👀

[undone timber]

That or they use the airport/foundry

That'd be cool

[opal radish]

yeah

[frozen meadow]

A raid manhunt sounds fucking terrifying

[opal radish]

no it does not

[frozen meadow]

Especially iron horse, god knows what BT would be doing at a foundry

[sterile ferry]

not an actual raid though, just on the same map

[opal radish]

making dogs,mini tank

[sterile ferry]

similar to how countdown is 8 players but anderson is up to4

[frozen meadow]

And similar to how Anderson was terrifying when it first came out

[sterile ferry]

it really wasnt

[undone timber]

Fuck the Conley jammers

[opal radish]

it was difficult but not that much

[opal radish]

that was worse

with the turrets

[frozen meadow]

When it first came out? Like day 1? Yes it was really bad lmao

[opal radish]

andd jameer

[frozen meadow]

It was like 3-4 times as many enemies

[sterile ferry]

i remember they nerfed NPC spawn rates

[opal radish]

no never had a problem with Anderson just use pfe and you are done

[sterile ferry]

i miss the guaranteed exotics though

[opal radish]

no they nerfef the spawn points

[undone timber]

That was fun

[frozen meadow]

Anyways what gimmick could they give a raid manhunt though

[undone timber]

Throw a watered down iron horse at you idk

[frozen meadow]

But how is that bt relevant

[sterile ferry]

i still havent learned the mechanics of IH

[undone timber]

I've learnt pretty much everything except boss 3 cuz idek

[frozen meadow]

Boss 3 is a lot going on

[sterile ferry]

and discovery difficulty doesnt help either

[opal radish]

yeah me too and to think i have played for 1300hrs

[undone timber]

Idk tbh

[opal radish]

it's run and shoot

[sterile ferry]

cause for some f*cking reason some devs decided to change the mechanics from normal to discover

[undone timber]

If the puzzles worked the same but the enemies were weaker it'd make more sense but they watered that shit down too

[sterile ferry]

@frozen meadow wasnt you by any chance? 👀

[opal radish]

yeah but discovery with full mechanic will not work without mic

[frozen meadow]

Fuck discovery mode

[undone timber]

No because she's definitely not a division dev

[opal radish]

she is not a div dev /s

[sterile ferry]

ye totally not

[frozen meadow]

It's @opal radish who did it not me

[opal radish]

yup it was me milady

[frozen meadow]

See there's your proof

[sterile ferry]

"it was me barry"

[opal radish]

the person who didn't know any ih mechanic did that

[prisma hull]

is anyone on rn

[frozen meadow]

No

[sterile ferry]

nah

[opal radish]

no

[prisma hull]

rip

[opal radish]

#lfg-pc

[prisma hull]

yeah did that no response 😭

[blazing sleet]

Use in-game matchmaking

[hybrid ore]

@prisma hull Dead or not, can't use here. Everyone has to follow the same rules.

[prisma hull]

Of course, completely understand.

[finite hare]

Oh… I thought I was special….

[hybrid ore]

If your message wasn't replied to/deleted by a mod, it's because it was missed.

[opal radish]

😂 🤣

[hybrid ore]

Even AI needs time to recharge the batteries.

[opal radish]

AI spends time training 👀

[prisma hull]

so how is everyone doin today

[opal radish]

good

[finite hare]

Damn.

I see how it is. I see how it be

🤣

[finite hare]

I’m doing fine bro. How are you?

Not many ask that in D2 chat, so I respect it

[prisma hull]

yeah i realised i was in the wrong chat lmao

😭

but im alr prolly about to get on div 2 again

unsure tho

[finite hare]

I haven’t been on D2 in like 2 weeks. Don’t know when I’m gonna come back to it. I gotta finish Rdr2 first so I can delete have space for D2

[prisma hull]

lmao

[finite hare]

Damn. I just read what I sent. Holy shit. Sorry🤣. I’ve been exhausted as shit lately. Been exercising a shit ton

In 100 degrees +

[opal radish]

100+ degree Fahrenheit or Kelvin?

[finite hare]

F

[full zinc]

for some reason i dont think he's exercising on mars 🤣

[finite hare]

We cooking out here

[opal radish]

who knows maybe musk hired him for spaceX

[cloud forge]

are manhunt missions on a weekly reset?

[manic grail]

Good morning

I have a question i have td2 on ps4 could i download it for pc and play on my main ?

[ruby yoke]

There’s no cross-play bro. All you can is just a start over again…

[manic grail]

Ah ok got it bro thx

[plush osprey]

Wait eather I have an idea or I'm having a heart attack lol.
If Cavalier with 100% HasPro would the Backfire exotic effect you?

[manic grail]

This activation code literally killing me i have rainbow six on steam and ps4 yet its still not opening it ether gives me the activation code thing or the game integrity not verified

This shit is annoying af

[unborn ravine]

As long as you have like 95-98% bleed resistance, no. It wouldn't affect you. You can do that without having Cavalier too.

[narrow elm]

Cavalier makes it a Lot easier to farm though, like you don't need a yaahl piece with crit and hazpro for example

[plush osprey]

I did can hit up to 300k Cch with Max HasPro. Loving it with backfire just the 10 seconds till all the stacks go away.

[mighty matrix]

any words when we are getting the performance back the devs stole from us with 18.2?

[opal radish]

don't know maybe tu 18.4 they Just made performance worse for apparel event 🤣

[full zinc]

what performance issues? i been running pretty decent with less crashing and better connectivity

[opal radish]

what are you running for cpu and gpu

[mighty matrix]

Always depends on what you think is good performance. If you are running at 60, yes, you won't feel the difference, if you are running at 180, you WILL feel the difference.

[opal radish]

also for low end we are having invisible npcs and game keep loading f*d my solo legendary run

and sky in underground buildings

all happened after tu 18.2

[full zinc]

nah i leave it at 60. its newer setup but i dont remember what i put in it atm. intel and nvidia 3060

[mighty matrix]

see, you won't see performance change on these low fps

[full zinc]

i guess im golden then 👍

[full zinc]

intel 12700k , 3060ti 8gb, 64gb ram

[opal radish]

you are rocking a nice pc

[full zinc]

thanks, needed to build one quick. old one died , but then i was able to fix

[opal radish]

yeah a nice upgrade gonna last for a few years more

[rich cape]

I'm stuck at Expertise Level "5" pretty long, which makes faster to raise Expertise Level? "Proficiency unlocks" or "upgrades"? Anybody know?

[idle pecan]

Tbh div two can be pretty demanding even tho it's from 2019

I've got a 2070 and can just about scrape by on max settings with a few turned down at 75 - 180

it fluctuates a lot lol

[full zinc]

last 1 was 3770k , got at least 10 years out of it. was definitely nice moving to dual nvme (1boot, 1 games).

[full zinc]

to increase your expertise level, you need to proficient all weapons , gear, skills, and named/exotic items . target weapons in countdown. each variant is 20 donations. you can also use materials

[rare vapor]

if you max out the settings that is

[opal radish]

maxing setting some time tanks performance too much but does not provide that better experience

[rare vapor]

thats why you optimise

[opal radish]

very high vs high texture for example most of the time better to choose high

[opal radish]

that's up to dev not us kek

[rare vapor]

some setting like fog provide almost no visual difference, and you can turn that down and gain 20 fps

oh, you are thinking a completely different kind of "optimise"

but you are though, right.

[opal radish]

yeah why the fog can't be optimize to tank less

i understand it is a compromise

between quality and performance

it is upto devs what they choose

[rare vapor]

basically i been "optimising" the graphics for near 5 years, by selectively lower ones that make 0 visual difference, and i was able to play it stable 60 fps on my 1080, and since i upgraded, i see it at 286fps sometimes. in town is like 192fps after the patch, i got over 220 before update 18

it dips to 170 when theres more players

[opal radish]

1080 best card of its time

[rare vapor]

yeah i used it for 8 years

with a 7700k

[opal radish]

nowadays graphic market is overpriced except for maybe like 4090

[rare vapor]

i bid Nvidia goodbye this year and upgraded to a 7950x3d and sapphire nitro+ 7900xtx 2 months ago

[idle pecan]

used GPU's honestly are really good

[rare vapor]

i was an nvidia user for 13 years

[idle pecan]

got my 2070 for 200 pounds

like 220 dollars or 210 euros

[opal radish]

if the seller is trustworthy

[idle pecan]

CEX

[rare vapor]

well i tried to buy used 3000 nvidia online, but they cost similar to new 4000 series,so i said, fk it.

[idle pecan]

used shop place really popular throughout Europe

[opal radish]

4000 series is a scam tbh

[rare vapor]

as long as you can tell they are not mining layoffs. which 80% are, and they lie on their product page

[opal radish]

so it is trustworthy

[idle pecan]

yeah

have a 2 year warranty as well

[opal radish]

yeah layoffs are going like crazy

[idle pecan]

if it's not working or something along those lines

[opal radish]

nice

except for nvidia and amd and apple most companies have done layoffs

[rare vapor]

you should also get a gaming tv, and not those "hot" monitors like the new samsung G9

[opal radish]

sadly i am stuck with laptop

[hybrid ore]

TV's are generally terrible for actual PC gaming.

[opal radish]

because i want portability that makes pcs and consoles irelavent for me

[hybrid ore]

But regardless, this conversation needs to be moved on over to #off-topic-discussions

[opal radish]

ok

[rare vapor]

that post deletion was so sad 😦 i spent time writing that lol.

[opal radish]

🤣 🤣

[hybrid ore]

It still exists in the log, if you ask nicely I'll DM it to you.

[rare vapor]

its ok, i was jokingh

[hybrid ore]

Too late.

[rare vapor]

😋Appreciated though.

[opal radish]

wrath of an A.I. 👀

[rare vapor]

wow, if only discord had AI

[hybrid ore]

What am I, chopped liver.

[opal radish]

lmao

[rare vapor]

i wouldn't laugh, as i love chopped liver.

[pine seal]

how do I open the skill tree? :/

[tender wave]

you select skills from your inventory, same way as selecting gear

if you mean where do you unlock new skills, you need to visit the quartermaster (just inside white house front entrance, left side)

[pine seal]

so theres no perks/skills associated with specialization?

[tender wave]

there are, specialisation unlocks are same bench as the quartermaster, just slightly further up

[glacial oar]

Hi ! Is there an setting to automaticly pick up the loot thats on the ground ?

[tender wave]

only accessible once you completed Capitol Building in the base game story, or boosted your character to lvl 30

[tender wave]

no, although you can pick up a stack by holding a key (F, iirc) as you run over it

[wet mesa]

are there any operation dark hours raids about to start or happening shortly ?

I feel I am ready to start but I have not raided in a long long time as I have had a long absence from the game & thus not done any of the latest raids

so I am keen to do one if anyone is willing

[tender wave]

check #lfg-raid-pc or look in the discords that have raid-focused voice channels (community discord or gcrock one)

[wet mesa]

cheers I wasn't aware there was a more suited section to ask in

[vernal hatch]

Week 4: still no catharsis mask. Been farming for while I have no hope now I'm going crazy at this point. My balls are sweating and I'm now hopeless

[opal radish]

you should leave an log in division 2 maybe they will put it in game

[acoustic plume]

delta-03 woooooo

[tender wave]

focus on exotic caches, not sure it's in any target loot pool at the moment

[full jay]

It is, a friend and I ran countdown with both running masks for targeted loot and managed to get one after a few runs. Suggest running on challenging.

[opal radish]

no point it is not in tl afaik

[wide lotus]

@hybrid ore its been awhile havent talked to u in a bit how are u?

[gaunt rapids]

How to get LMB clothes

[wide lotus]

U gota do 3 of the Strongholds i believe on legendary Diffiulty

[tender wave]

only the original three (Roosevelt, DUA, Capitol)

[wide lotus]

yea my bad

[tender wave]

although those are technically white tusk clothes, prob the closest thing to LMB clothes in Div 2

[wide lotus]

True LMB dosnt really exist in div 2

[opal radish]

how do you collect them i have already done that

[wide lotus]

u need to the those missions on legendary diffculty

[tender wave]

they're given to you automatically when you complete the missions

[opal radish]

ok

i see operator clothes

never realised i had them

[sterile ferry]

i think you guys are mistaking LMB with white tusk

[opal radish]

yeah

[wide lotus]

yea true LMB doesnt really exist in Div 2

[sterile ferry]

LMB outfit is in division 1, usually eanred in the cosmetic loot boxes and heroic incusrions

[gaunt rapids]

What level I need?

[sterile ferry]

40

[wide lotus]

level 40 legendary difficulty (Roosevelt, DUA, Capitol) @gaunt rapids

[shrewd dawn]

What is the next global event about?

[gaunt rapids]

not 30?

are you sure?

[ruby yoke]

You need wony for legendary difficulty.
Anyway I doubt it’s possible to complete with lvl 30 gear even if you could try it.

[sterile ferry]

are you talking div1 or 2

div 1 legendary and lmb shit is at lvl 30 tier 5

[gaunt rapids]

1

[sterile ferry]

you could have said that much earlier

[surreal orbit]

Try #td1-lfg

[ruby yoke]

Why not to ask in TD1-general?
Thats td2 channel…

[hybrid ore]

Because LFG's go to the LFG channels, not the gen-chat ones.

[ruby yoke]

Original question was - What lvl do you need to play legendary missions (but for div1 game lol)

[hybrid ore]

Fine then, #td1-general
Not sure why they weren't linked directly in the first place.

[sterile ferry]

30 for d1, 40 for d2

[shrewd dawn]

Can I have a chances for ar exotics in Dz south? (target loot is not ar)

[frozen meadow]

for regular ARs its 0.072%

[gaunt rapids]

k

[frozen meadow]

if youre trying to get eagle bearer, its chances arent impacted by TL

[zinc shadow]

people be talking about div 2 in the div 1 section all the time, this is the inverse lol

[frozen meadow]

its a static 0.008%

[shrewd dawn]

Is there a best way to farm these?

[frozen meadow]

its 0.008% per kill

so take that as you will, thats 1 in 12,500

[shrewd dawn]

Ok, thanks

[frozen meadow]

and it only drops contaminated

[wide lotus]

u have a better chacne of hitting the lottery or getting eaten by a shark then hitting it but its possible . keep in mind it can drop from anyone even purple enemies can drop it

[frozen meadow]

prule?

[wide lotus]

meant purple

[frozen meadow]

oh ok lol

[shrewd dawn]

Somebody knows why everyone in DZ uses famas?

[ruby yoke]

Because that’s the highest dps ar in the game maybe?

[frozen meadow]

Yeah I use FAMAS lol

[wide lotus]

one of the best ar's in the game

[frozen meadow]

In terms of burst damage it is the best

[wide lotus]

famas, carbine 7 ,police m4 and m416 best ar's ive seen people use

all of them work similar

[ruby yoke]

Not for ps player who doesn’t have a mouse in his hand😜

[frozen meadow]

A mouse doesn't solve a skill issue

[wide lotus]

trust me i play on all platforms

if ur not good then getting a gun wont solve tht

[frozen meadow]

Literally skill issue lol

[neon wyvern]

it's an ar

[ruby yoke]

Sorry - will say in other words:
Not for noobs 🤣

[shrewd dawn]

How 2 get high expertise?

[wide lotus]

tbh good aim goes along way

dont need a kb/m to have good aim xD

[ruby yoke]

Play cd and give all loot for expertise

[ruby yoke]

What is kb/m?

[frozen meadow]

Keyboard mouse

[acoustic plume]

my build is close to done, still get kicked from heroic countdowns lol

what do these nerds want

[frozen meadow]

What build is it

[ruby yoke]

Lol this pc slang

[acoustic plume]

dps

[shrewd dawn]

SHD lvl 1000+

[frozen meadow]

What items specifically

[frozen meadow]

I presume you also think kvm is PC slang

[acoustic plume]

standard dps, i got max crit chance, max coyotoes, max st. elmos, 200% crit damage

[frozen meadow]

"standard DPS" what does this mean

[ruby yoke]

They want you to play challenging 😂

[frozen meadow]

Just list the actual items lol

[acoustic plume]

i can do heroic fine

[frozen meadow]

You can do heroic with anything

[ruby yoke]

Smth from rocket science probably :p

[acoustic plume]

coyotes, st elmos, x3 providence, 1 fenris, fox's prayer

[frozen meadow]

prolly cuz the 3 prov and fenris part tbh tbh

[acoustic plume]

whats the issue

i got the sacrifice as my vest, trying to farm the gift backpack

[frozen meadow]

cuz i can do heroic with my hardcore character and i dont get kicked for heartbreaker with 3 blues lmfao

its like shd 150

[acoustic plume]

got a tdi as my pistol

[frozen meadow]

ok?

[acoustic plume]

do you huff paint or something

[frozen meadow]

rude

[sick thicket]

Lol

Using a raid dps/static dps build in countdown is a no

[acoustic plume]

why

[frozen meadow]

"why does this happen"

explains why it happens
"do you huff paint or something"

[sick thicket]

Because its subpar

[acoustic plume]

it works fine

you shoot the guys and they die

[sick thicket]

Probably 500k less crit compared to striker

If not more

[frozen meadow]

glass cannon is quite a big nono

[acoustic plume]

am i play the division 2 or wow

50k DPS minus!!!

[frozen meadow]

mate did you come here to whine about getting kicked or to actually wonder why and change accordingly

[acoustic plume]

i know why i get kicekd bc they're dumbass nerds lmao

[sick thicket]

Lol

[frozen meadow]

sigh

[sick thicket]

I went from getting kicked constantly at level 1 shd to never getting kicked by level 10 shd

Striker obliterate coyotes. Ceska/grupo doesn't really matter

[frozen meadow]

same with me at like 20 or 30

[sterile ferry]

create your own countdown matches, you cant get kicked that way?

[neon wyvern]

plenty of fish in the sea

[frozen meadow]

tbh id leave the group if the leader was low shd

[ruby yoke]

Join heroic cd with a <100 shd leader is a meh idea :/

[sterile ferry]

oh we talking heroic

yeah dont f*cking do that

[acoustic plume]

im 193

[frozen meadow]

yeah dont run non-meta in heroic cd and whine about getting kicked lmfao

[sick thicket]

If u know what you're doing high lvl players will recognize that just by your build thankfully. Helped me out a lot when I switched to pc lol

[acoustic plume]

my build works fine, i dont evevn get kicked that often but when i do i know its some dude that watches anime

[frozen meadow]

youre toxic af lmfao

[neon wyvern]

👍

[sterile ferry]

youre missing so much damage at that shd level. countdown is a team effert

theres room for carry in challenging but not in heroic

[sick thicket]

The fact you're playing heroic countdown is problem number 1

[neon wyvern]

yeah if you are doing it for loot challenging has been pretty similar to loot quanity and quality for me

[sick thicket]

Unless you're reeeeally trying to minmax rolls or points, no point

[frozen meadow]

i do it cuz bored lol

more points to spend on exo components for expertise

[sick thicket]

Its crazy how much different the two are in comparison. Makes sense why he's getting kicked. Only red static dps build you could get away with was double companion

Even then without any directive buffs you weren't hitting over 800k crit

[acoustic plume]

the build works fine, im not gonna go get 500 levels so some nerd can feel like he's getting "optimal dps" when 'good enough' is fine

[frozen meadow]

pretty much

[frozen meadow]

then stop coming here to whine lmao

[opal radish]

🍿 🍿

[sick thicket]

Im telling you a build which will enable you to never get kicked again lol. If you don't want it keep getting kicked ig

[frozen meadow]

he clearly thinks hes correct and everyone else is wrong, so theres not much that can be changed about that unfortunately

[sick thicket]

I guess he needs 500 shd levels for a striker build

[glacial oar]

Have an ideea where i can find Food ? Need like 30 more food to donate

[acoustic plume]

no i get what you're saying, im just saying its stupid

[frozen meadow]

resource nodes scattered around dc/ny

[sterile ferry]

in food areas

[frozen meadow]

saying its stupid doesnt change shit

[full zinc]

North of Lincoln. Big plot

[glacial oar]

k

[full zinc]

Also components north and water east of lincoln

[sick thicket]

Heroic is really difficult in comparison to challenging countdown man. Takes a lot more time as well. Gotta be picky as far as your team in there

[opal radish]

i have always played heroic

so i don't know challenging vs heroic

[frozen meadow]

challenging is a slice of cake

[tender wave]

countdown difficulties/loot quality are not equivalent to open world/mission difficulties/loot

[full zinc]

Honestly looking at the convo I dont see what the problem is with standard high end dps... it's good enough for raid, right

[frozen meadow]

the point is mate was whining about getting kicked and then asked if i huffed paint when i told him thats why

[full zinc]

I think cd has got a little snobbish tbh... at least in heroic from the sounds of it.

[acoustic plume]

countdown isnt that hard lol

[full zinc]

Its not. I only run cc in it

[sick thicket]

Heroic countdown kinda has to be like that if you want to farm it consistently

[frozen meadow]

ive also noticed a ridiculous surge in complete runs. like it went from 70% extraction to like 95-97

[full zinc]

I think I may have to troll some heroic cd soon. Hotswap to an arty build for the end /s

[opal radish]

only reason i fail is due to too many disconnect

[sick thicket]

Lmao

[frozen meadow]

ill get 2 disconnects and still steamroll extraction

[full zinc]

What's the difference anyways.. like 50 requisition credits?

[frozen meadow]

yeah around there

[opal radish]

i get 4 ometimes

[full zinc]

Seems like a waste

[frozen meadow]

its 30% more

[full zinc]

Maybe . Dont you get less if some dont complete

[frozen meadow]

100 less

if you dont extract

[full zinc]

Yeah challenging seems the best bet

[sick thicket]

Yeah imo the time it takes its much more efficient to farm challenging. Not sure hm time you typically have left when your 4 min starts

[frozen meadow]

or just dont screw up

[full zinc]

Cant control crashed

[frozen meadow]

if your team isnt bad theres zero issues

[acoustic plume]

i get plenty of kills and get 0 downs like it works fine

[sick thicket]

But in challenging there's times where we have 6 mins left as the 4 min timer starts

[frozen meadow]

and i kill every enemy with 10 minutes left on the timer

[frozen meadow]

so its slower lol?

im at the 5 min mark rn and almost finished main mission

[sick thicket]

I've played both consistently, found challenging much more consistent

[frozen meadow]

heroic has gotten significantly more consistent since they started kicking low levels

[full zinc]

Low levels are fun tho 🤣

[frozen meadow]

until they go to whine on discord and ask people if they huff paint 🤣

[sick thicket]

Yeah to each their own tbh I must be really unlucky then, because every single heroic cd I've played we're cramming lol

[hearty briar]

Or run a striker drone despite telling them not to for the Hunter encounter

[frozen meadow]

this is why you kick low levels

[hearty briar]

My brother in Christ I’m not the host

[frozen meadow]

wasnt directing that message at you

was adding on

[hearty briar]

I’m just here to lazy farm expertise with a Determined White death 🎉

[sick thicket]

Lol I was watching fog/dods videos recently arguing about the st elmos. You can't possibly refer to something as broken when det hh exists

By that standard, using a st elmos dps build is inefficient

[frozen meadow]

thats the shittest take

[full zinc]

🤣

[frozen meadow]

you cant compare dps between a marksman rifle and ar

[opal radish]

but can compare ttk

[frozen meadow]

on which enemy lmfao

[sick thicket]

Lol so marksmans should be able to wipe the entire game effortlessly?

[plush otter]

kick on builds at most, anyone that kicks on shd alone is a idiot, i would take plenty of 150s that are running good builds over some 8k running 6piece SC because they want proficieny

[opal radish]

1 dua legendary boss

[sick thicket]

While you're sat with your all red striker maxing 1.2m crits hiding 🤣

[frozen meadow]

6 he with perfect glass cannon on a shd 192 yes id kick

[opal radish]

not with Rainbo build and striker drone

[frozen meadow]

because aint no way they arent a liability

[sick thicket]

I wanna know how that's a shit take

[hearty briar]

Eh, challenging is fine. You can at least carry braindeads on challenging.

[frozen meadow]

comparing a marksman to an AR?

thats a shit take yes

[hearty briar]

Just gotta tell them to actually listen during the hunter fight. Most of the time they do

[plush otter]

and what if they arent that strawman you jsut made up, what then?

[frozen meadow]

except they dont 99% of the time

[opal radish]

the best build is one cc

[sick thicket]

Using an AR atp when determined hh is a thing, you're intentionally blinding yourself

[frozen meadow]

then they arent shd 192

[sick thicket]

You're literally wasting time

[hearty briar]

Happens. Just simply move to the next run. Zzzz

[frozen meadow]

💀 what is this argument

[sick thicket]

By using anything other than det hh

Am I wrong?

[frozen meadow]

yes very

[sick thicket]

Please someone besides you tell me im wrong lol

[frozen meadow]

if i place you in a room full of warhounds fuck is headhunter gonna do

or what about the last boss of roosevelt legendary

[sick thicket]

Im specifically talking about open world/mission farming

[plush otter]

offcourse, there are no lvl 100s that are in clans that help them gear and show them what to run, only what you say they are, you know, for someone that keeps calling others toxic, you are toxic AF

[hearty briar]

What moron runs a HH det build in rooms clearly designed to counter it

[frozen meadow]

see now we are referring to specifics. so you are understanding that there is places where its irrelevant. meaning its not just an end-all-be-all

[frozen meadow]

cant call me toxic without calling him toxic 🤷‍♀️

[sick thicket]

I am referring to specifics lol. And that was their entire point, them running around open world calling for the st elmos to be nerfed

[plush otter]

🤦

[frozen meadow]

tbf determined is bugged

and also i can agree elmos does need a nerf lol

[hearty briar]

Nah

[sick thicket]

You were saying it doesn't need a nerf a month ago lol

[hearty briar]

If they’re nerfing Elmo’s, they better nerf the Scorpio first

[frozen meadow]

not damage wise

i just think it needs less weapon handling

[opal radish]

no?

[hearty briar]

And actually buff Merciless while they’re at it💀

[frozen meadow]

you dont have to agree with me thats just what i think lol

[opal radish]

and backfire

[frozen meadow]

backfire doesnt need a nerf lol

[opal radish]

lol

[frozen meadow]

wait i misread nvm

[sick thicket]

Lmfao every single class has no more than 3 viable weapons

I don't see why the AR having 3 is a problem

[frozen meadow]

police m4, carbine 7, famas, elmos

theres 4 for ARs

[sick thicket]

Police m4 and carbine are rendered useless

[hearty briar]

Missing the best AR. The G36💀

[frozen meadow]

one of which having 20chc and 20 handling right off the bat

[frozen meadow]

tell me how and prove it

[surreal orbit]

Yup

[sick thicket]

If you're using police m4 and carbine over st elmos wyd

[frozen meadow]

what

yeah, thats why it needs a nerf lol?

[full zinc]

And no damage talent... js

[sick thicket]

So what are you running besides white death nemesis?

[frozen meadow]

the famas only beats it by like 1.7% or something with a damage talent. which significantly less handling

[sick thicket]

What are you running besides Scorpio, m870, and rock n roll?

[hearty briar]

Tsunami

[sick thicket]

Lol

[full zinc]

They made a nice exotic for a change 😅

[frozen meadow]

i think it just needs a small handling nerf thats it

[sick thicket]

What are you using besides .45 vector?

[hearty briar]

The Uzi hyenas have 💀

[frozen meadow]

maybe bring the mod down to 10 or 5% handling

[sick thicket]

Yeah I agree when it first came out i said id be surprised if they didn't nerf it

But then I tried determined hh

Oh and regulus hf

[frozen meadow]

an AR works for any content in the game

determined HH doesnt

[plush otter]

you should stop talking about numbers, you never have gotten any of them right, famas with strained beats it with 8% on striker obli

[sick thicket]

Nobody is using an ar speedrunning legendaries/raids

Unless ad control

[hearty briar]

But a determined HH build is funny

[sick thicket]

Even then, they're not using st elmos

[frozen meadow]

you dont need to speedrun a mission to beat it

[sick thicket]

So its inefficient

[hearty briar]

Especially when you shoot a Hyena rusher in the foot and their helmet pops off instead.

[frozen meadow]

do you have a source for the numbers

[opal radish]

for fun?

[rare vapor]

[plush otter]

really eevee, you are asking me if i have a source..... really..... you are asking me?

[frozen meadow]

yes

do you expect me to just blindly believe everything on the internet or

[rare vapor]

A source is also on the internet

[frozen meadow]

but proven

and not blindly

[plush otter]

no, but you are the one spouting nonsense every 3 seconds, im not, have i ever said anything i could not back up?

[rare vapor]

by people on the internet 🥴

[sick thicket]

For fun = inefficient which is fine but to say st elmos needs a nerf its like ehhh okay I guess. But in reality its not meta

[frozen meadow]

it doesnt matter who its from if it cant be proven lmao

[rare vapor]

unless it's someone i know personally or part of my immediate family, i doubt 😜

[plush otter]

here, sheets are linked below it, consider the times i call the other person a dumbass to also be about you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2VHWmrFN5E

[rare vapor]

that video is now getting view boosted lol

[sick thicket]

The only thing st elmos is good for is sitting back feet kicked up all red striker back of the map, which in itself is inefficient when it comes to endgame content

Ad control is better off using famas with literally any talent for any raid

[rare vapor]

i concur...

[sick thicket]

I brought a st elmos to a somewhat fast-paced dh raid lol

[rare vapor]

most people use Elmos just because.

[plush otter]

and now that i have shown mine, show your source now then?

[rare vapor]

70 rounds beats anything else with a better talent in terms of real world performance

[sick thicket]

The leader asked me to take that weapon off its trash

[frozen meadow]

you linked a 1 hour video

[sick thicket]

😂 because by dps standards it really is

[frozen meadow]

you gotta give me time to go through that mate lmao

[rare vapor]

sometimes you may not fully utilize that better talent, but 70 rounds is just 70 rounds

[plush otter]

just the sheets will show you it in seconds

[sick thicket]

No you're exactly right which is why I think it plays a good role

[plush otter]

linked below it

[rare vapor]

a lazy role i'd say, most people using it, regardless.

[plush otter]

and also you can not give your sources you watch it? what?

[hybrid ore]

Okay, let's all play nice now.

[sick thicket]

True its hard to say which is more ideal now that I think about it. Shield peaking with perfect focus, or st elmos in a group using your skillbuild teammates to steal aggro

[opal radish]

ai is here to doom our conversation

[plush otter]

i wont play nice, but ill just stop playing for now, im done here for today anyway, hung around too long again and the place gave me a headache with the amounts of facepalm worthy takes, a good reminder why i am here less and less

[rare vapor]

shield trick is always much more dmg with a famas and custom talent, but Elmos is just...70 rounds...

[reef heath]

Hello, i have a question about countdown. On the map, i do not have the icon to pick what my target loot i want. Is that normal and the only way to go to countdown is from the heli?

[sick thicket]

I'll check out your video thanks for linking it @plush otter

[small spear]

it's okay ikia, i do appreciate your content, i do double check some of your calcs (not all of them as i don't have time) and they have been consistent so far

famas with strained numbers are definitely consistent

[opal radish]

👀

[full zinc]

Set it at summit icon. It's set for cd as well

[rough sleet]

you can also change the loot for countdown via changing the loot for summit. but an icon should be there but sometimes doesn't appear (not sure how that bug works or why)

[reef heath]

ahh i see. Thank you

[hybrid ore]

Everyone is allowed to be questioned, and if the person doesn't listen after you explain it, just moving on from the conversation costs nothing.

[rare vapor]

you overestimate human nature

[hybrid ore]

There's 100, 000 people here, they aren't all going to get along.

[reef heath]

do you have to complete a mission for it to apear?

[rough sleet]

i don't THINK so (i never did that I know of, it just appeared when they added the gamemode)

[sick thicket]

Sorry im a little patient today Rivens

[reef heath]

hmmm strange. Well least i now know that what i set the target loot to on summit will also affect countdown 🙂

[hybrid ore]

If all else fails, just change the TL again before you start Countdown.
It takes like 3 seconds.

[reef heath]

https://tenor.com/view/edgerunners-rebbeca-like-gif-26802754

Thanks all

hmmm my edgerunners gif doesn't work here 😦

[rare vapor]

hahaha rebbeca.

[small spear]

rebbeca

[rare vapor]

she's just crazy

[reef heath]

Heck yeah.

Best of the lot though

[hybrid ore]

Yeah no embeds for official servers.
I've seen ones that do, it's not pretty.

[reef heath]

minus her crazy

[reef heath]

🤣

[rare vapor]

well if we can dual weild, we'd be roleplaying her in 2077

[hybrid ore]

It took them a year and a half to make cops not spontaneously appear when chasing you, dual-wielding might take a while.

[rare vapor]

i hoped for a MOD, but i guess not

[reef heath]

so when division 2 mob spawn fix then 😂😂😂

[hybrid ore]

Only me, and I don't work in Cyberpunk 2077.

[reef heath]

i swear they spawn behind me

[rare vapor]

division 2 spawn is entirely Ai based, they train the model to know where you are and spawn just close enough to be behind you.

[opal radish]

no

they are fixed around map

[hybrid ore]

I tried your channel out recently, good stuff Ikea.
very much appreciate the indepth detail.

[reef heath]

defo seem to have a fixed spawn location while on the map. I saw them spawn right in front of me around 30 mins ago

but i'm more on about while in missions

[plush otter]

it was more that me and them have done that dance dozens of times, and not just me but dozens of others with them aswell,
and everytime i have had that exact type of discussion with them, i have always backed up my claims, they should have expected a pattern there, as at this rate they have provided anything at all about 10% of the time, while i have done it 100% of the time.
it was just incredulity at even their expectancy that i wouldnt have those numbers at the ready.
and thanks for the kind words.

[hybrid ore]

Just don't interact then, block if you need to.
If you run into a brick wall 100 times, then you can't be surprised when it still hurts.

It's like me and the one that shall remain nameless.

[reef heath]

Reminds me of one of my frav quotes. You can't argue with stupid

or with the truely stuborn

[hybrid ore]

@reef heath ^It's a hard learned lesson. The temptation is absolutely there each time.

[reef heath]

or those with no mind of there own

[sick thicket]

Everytime I'm in this chat I manage to to get Eevee riled up unintentionally. I apologize 😂

[reef heath]

ohh i get it.

[frozen meadow]

ok i just did some testing and got the famas with strained to be 0.2% better than elmos

and my computer scarily booped at me D:

[hybrid ore]

That's not using the Shooting Range is it? Because that place is buggy.

[plush otter]

if they were just a brick wall i would, but they are very active and keep putting out bad info, that then needs to be countered after it has festered for a while,
i am at this point not even going after them when they put out misinformation for the benefit of trying to correct them, but just so others that they are interacting with know that it may not be true at the very least.

[sick thicket]

Thank you for your service

[opal radish]

who?

[frozen meadow]

i dont think me wanting elmos to be nerfed is considered "keep putting out bad info"

[reef heath]

it will sadly always be an uphill endless marathon.

[hybrid ore]

In that case I recommend just stating what the error is, how to fix it, and why they made the error if you know it.
Elmo's does need a nerf, but in the same way that Scorpio does.

[plush otter]

"testing" 🤦

[rare vapor]

Elmo has the least amount of recoil, like basically 0. nerf the heck out of that first i'd say

[plush otter]

it could use some minor rebalancing sure, but that is not even the statement i went after now was it?

[frozen meadow]

thats literally what i suggested lmfao

[hybrid ore]

I'm okay with a lot of guns being brought up to its level, but that just makes the game even easier than it already is.
@plush otter Okay, what is the exact message, where is the statement you went after?

[rare vapor]

oh? good good.

[frozen meadow]

i said it should be either a 10% or 5% handling mod not 20

[plush otter]

👆 this is a statement of facts, testable and in this case i contest your findings, dont care about your feelings on the matter, just the numbers.

[frozen meadow]

You came across unnecessarily rude

[opal radish]

i would like elmos to rng special ammo

[frozen meadow]

Then it's just reassigned but better

[rare vapor]

i'd take 20% HSD over any WH myself.

[frozen meadow]

Same

[plush otter]

good, that was what i was trying to achieve, so mission succesfull on my end, i dont mind being rude

[hybrid ore]

Okay let's tone this all down a little.
@frozen meadow Tell us how you tested the FAMAS "beating" it by 1.7%

[sick thicket]

Lmfao

[frozen meadow]

If ikia is gonna continue being rude I'm just gonna block and move on tbh

[azure lintel]

Eevee rolling into the server ready to start a fight: 😎

A gr8 sunday morning indeed

[sick thicket]

My restraint is hurting

[hybrid ore]

I always forget how far in the past most of you are.
It's monday morning here.

[frozen meadow]

Lol

[hybrid ore]

Please continue with your explanation of your testing.

[azure lintel]

yes dont let me stop you!

[opal radish]

yeah

on this special occasion ikia will not say anything

[sick thicket]

Anyone up for a good laugh?

Take a gander

The eevee experience

[frozen meadow]

Just range numbers with the same CHC

[hybrid ore]

So that's the full extent of it?

[frozen meadow]

I mean what else is there

[sick thicket]

Idk eevee maybe you're just bad at aiming

[small spear]

you need to compare the damage you get over a full mag and compare it to elmo's damage over a full mag

or you can calc the average chd that strained gives to famas, get the avg shot, and divide that over elmo's avg shot, lotsa ways

[frozen meadow]

That's not what ikia did

[small spear]

i'm just giving examples

[frozen meadow]

I know

[plush otter]

welp, guess im getting blocked then, because how could i not be rude to that?........ using the firing range for dps testing...... and using it in this discord that you very well know has dozens of people explaining over and over to not use it over and over again....... well there we have it...... can i be actually blamed for being rude at this point?

[hybrid ore]

and now iKia will explain in full about how they went testing it.

[azure lintel]

god ikia is so hot

[opal radish]

@plush otter careful 👀

[sick thicket]

Im just confused. A month ago you said this when I had the same take that you do now

[plush otter]

i wont because i need to get setup to stream, but only if i had a yt channel full of how to do that kinda stuff, or one of the dozen other places like this discords spreadsheet that have the tools to do it with
but the short of it is i know how to calculate it out, and i provide my spreadsheets to be peer reviewed, as the range cannot be ever trusted, not for anything other than just getting the hit dmg numbers, and even there it breaks under some cicumstances

[sick thicket]

Im glad you finally saw the light eevee

[azure lintel]

i bet eevee watches fog of war

[sick thicket]

Idk I think fog of war might just be bad at aiming

[opal radish]

fog of war?

[azure lintel]

oh god im promoting at this point 💀

[hybrid ore]

If you don't want to defend your methods, that is fine.
now can we please move on from this petty squabble? I feel like I've aged a week.

[sick thicket]

Found his channel after dod hit him with the smackdown

His response could almost be convincing if you completely disregard the entire concept of math

[sick thicket]

I agree im just glad to see eevee get fact checked by someone that actually put the time in to do so

[plush otter]

just to be clear, i already provided both my methods and my numbers, here is the sheet that my findings is based on, and i hope almost anyone else here can explain the folly of using the range just aswell as me
numbers for elmo on striker again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1toRof4sXEALb_mPjL0g_A2dxut-Ogy7ZflkK21Wq_Tw

[opal radish]

range only use is to check npc health

[plush otter]

and the method were in the vid i linked before, wont do it again as i dont want to get hit with self promotion by doing it too much

[hybrid ore]

Good call, I'd have auto-deleted it.
There we go, @frozen meadow, is that satisfying as an answer of why Elmo's is better overall with math, compared to using just the Shooting Range?

[frozen meadow]

to be fair the damas still does out-damage

[frozen meadow]

elmos is worse damage wise but barely, and thats the problem i have with it

i still think it needs a nerf lol

[sick thicket]

Exactly lol. Its not that deep, im just giving u shit because i was arguing the same point that you are now

[opal radish]

elmos has same bullet damgage as famas m4

[frozen meadow]

famas does out damage tho so i was right

[hybrid ore]

No one is denying that it needs a nerf, but the question was about the method to prove that it out DPS's Elmos.

[frozen meadow]

rivens lots of people were denying it needs a nerf lol

[sick thicket]

Including you

[full zinc]

Yeah nerf famas. Highest damage 🤣

[sick thicket]

But now the turned have tables

[frozen meadow]

?

if we are just gonna antagonize my old messages that doesnt help much

[hybrid ore]

Uh what?

[frozen meadow]

opinions change

[real creek]

I don't think it needs a nerf. I've said this plenty and will continue to.

[sick thicket]

Unfortunately your facts tend to change a lot

[frozen meadow]

what

[sick thicket]

My fault that was rude

Im happy for you

[frozen meadow]

the famas does out-damage, that is a fact

[opal radish]

yeah me too

[frozen meadow]

also yes there is such a thing as getting proven wrong

[real creek]

I don't know why people think it should be nerfed. You get a gun that's finally comparable and you can use and people think it should be worse so that it won't be used then? I don't get it.

[opal radish]

yeah elmos is balanced due to not having good talent like bighorns

[hybrid ore]

As explained before, the want for a nerf is not to make it worse, it's because other guns are now comparatively worse because it's so well made.

[sick thicket]

I agree it shouldn't be nerfed. The accuracy however is up for debate imo

[hybrid ore]

It's what we like to call "power creep". It's been an issue for a while in this game now.

[frozen meadow]

I think it needs a nerf on handling that's it

[hybrid ore]

Okay y'all play nice now, I need tea.

[sick thicket]

Can say one or the other, it is a choice you make though being thats its your 1 exotic

[frozen meadow]

Or perhaps crit that's all

[real creek]

Gib me some!

[sick thicket]

I think its a good option if you want very consistently versatile dps

But you can also say that's an issue

[frozen meadow]

I feel like the devs should troll and buff the tommy gun for no reason

[sick thicket]

I feel like they put the st elmos into the game for newer players

Its one of the only options you have for a viable AR at low watch levels. Every other AR you have less than 100% chd when trying to get 50+% chance

[small spear]

that's my thought as well, they wanted a good gun for newer players to easily pick up and use

[pine seal]

I keep earning specialization points but how do I spend them?

[full zinc]

Spec desk. Across from vendor in the whitehouse

[sick thicket]

Works perfectly as intended if thats the case. Not sure what to make of just how versatile it is in comparison to most ARs though. Could be that it's just an alternative, but its hard to say if the mag size and accuracy are balanced in comparison to the higher dps options

You gain specialization points for the one that you currently have activated

@pine seal

[pine seal]

yeah I had to push space to view the tree 😐

[sick thicket]

Lol

[pine seal]

are the grenade unlocks only useable if the specialization is active?

[hybrid ore]

Yes.

[opal radish]

are exo talent in descent rng?

[pine seal]

ngl that kinda sucks

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[small spear]

which part of the rng, the chance to drop or the selection of 3 from the pool?

[opal radish]

no after first exo talent haven't seen one till loop 12

i also got new reliable blueprint

than quit

[pine seal]

is rogue agent in summit tower a player ?

[copper shoal]

no its npc

[dim terrace]

🤔

[glacial oar]

Huh ?

[acoustic plume]

I thought rogue agents were invaders like in dark souls at first

Wouldve been way cooler

[viscid cargo]

And terrible, as its an instant wipe. Try going DZ with a PVE build lol

[acoustic plume]

well 1 dude vs 4

[viscid cargo]

Yes

Pvp builds are that much better in pvp

Than pve builds