#td2-general-chat

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hollow obsidian
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Challenging is great for it, but the enemies are harder than normal open world challenging. But if you have good gear then you’re good.

small spear
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yes

bitter wraith
# small spear yes

Riot works on nemesis?? Guess I know how I'm going to get revenge on him then

small spear
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yes riot foam works on him, but like any boss it has reduced duration

willow gale
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I cannot see any voice channels. are those channels removed?

small spear
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but having enough damage means you can just melt him away during that time

bitter wraith
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Shotguns are BROKEN in descent when every talent you select is vigilance, optimist and composure and you have them all on tier 4 or 5

urban shale
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Asoon as I played countdown I got the weapon i wanted . Thank you

hollow obsidian
urban shale
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Challenging

hollow obsidian
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Okay nice! How did that go?

urban shale
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I wish I knew about countdown

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Has all the loot

hollow obsidian
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Yeah it’s really great! It’s fast, good loot, and you can play it without saying anything or by yourself with other people!

thick zephyr
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Perfect companion is too op, especially in conflict.
That's all.

west bough
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wow i wish i started playing on pc first... game looks amazing

wide remnant
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Does gear that I got as a level 30 ( maxed attributes) matter when I reach level 40 is there a way to make them level 40?

small spear
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no

hollow obsidian
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No you have to get gear that is level 40.

finite hare
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I just lost my first CD. Soo many people died and 1 dced. In the end it was only 3 of us

gaunt dust
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Realistically how long do you guys think this game has?

verbal temple
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1 year

oak prawn
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After Y5 I think its gonna end

rugged hornet
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sup guys anyone wanna play? i just installed this game

azure lintel
gaunt dust
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I heard Div 3 will release in 2026

chilly remnant
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not geting blueprints for lvl 3 control points on world tier 3, is this still supposed to happen?

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soz, world tier 5

rugged hornet
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guys why do i have audio problems in division 2

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like messed up audio

finite hare
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I just changed my smg to Lady death, and my specialization to that grenade launcher one. Now my build is shredding but I’m still getting shredded

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Is everybody I play against in conflict teamed up bro? They always move together. I can’t do shit

lapis raptor
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having no luck getting a ninjabike messenger bag....any suggestions?

knotty quail
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Only drops from caches or random drops, can't get it through TL

lapis raptor
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ok

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ty

rigid spruce
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Have they finally fixed Descent xp exploit ?

finite hare
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I got 6 kills in conflict. My best match so far.

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Woooo!

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Damn. What a difference it made switching to Lady Death and the Demolitionist

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I need to get something other than vigilance on my backpack

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I don’t think it suits me in pvp. Not my style

opal radish
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the contamination mechanic was quite fun and challenging

dense shore
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E

cold gull
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Is it normal that I ask the ubisoft support about descent they answer about District Union Arena?

plush osprey
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Have they fixed the xp exploit in countdown

dense shore
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There's an xp exploit in countdown?? 🤣

spark tendon
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There's a XP exploit in countdown?

plush osprey
plush osprey
spark tendon
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Uh, idk then-

full zinc
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only getting like 1 shd per run there afaik. doesnt seem like anything to fix

plush osprey
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Was really good when I was doing it for gear sets. Throw all 6 of the same gear and in 2 runs form 0 to 10.

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Sad I can't test if it still works because the player base on xbox is near non-existent.

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If the devs do make a d3 the selling point for me is if it would have cross play or save if not I think it would be a hard pass for me.

royal summit
dapper atlas
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Heartland is a standalone game within the Division universe, but it's not supposed to be Div 3.

spark tendon
plush osprey
spark tendon
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more work for the devs kek

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The games already buggy enough

plush osprey
spark tendon
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Wonder how buggy Div 3 will be

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Though I doubt a Div 3 will even happen

plush osprey
oak prawn
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Whatever happened to the supposed division movie ?

plush osprey
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Probably given to kathleen kennedy lol

oak prawn
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Should of kept Dave flioni

plush osprey
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True

unkempt cedar
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as a returning player what is best to grind rn?

finite hare
unkempt cedar
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still ? i thouight they woulda nerfed it?

finite hare
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Nah. I’ve had no problems with it

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I don’t get the best drops with the best rolls but at least I’m getting the gear I want for the builds I want

full zinc
# unkempt cedar still ? i thouight they woulda nerfed it?

they did change it a bit if you last played cd when it first came out. unable to farm named items off the initial hunters. they dont drop loot just dogtags. but otherwise its still good and can buy an exo cache every 2 runs roughly

rich heart
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This game is fucking unplayable anymore.

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I can't even go 20 minutes without crashing after the apparel event maintenance. Honestly, are they ever going to fix it?

oak prawn
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The crashes not for a while most likely

last pier
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I actually like the whole Sheppard rankings and being able to endorse those who help...

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random, but i think its a great addition

copper shoal
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Will there be a DIV 3 later. I hope we get the Legendary option on all content, including open world,

hot lily
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Let them first fix stuff before adding new things 😂 7th crash in 2 hours.. did something happen during reset?

copper shoal
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I don't have a problem with crashes

hot lily
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I havent been this bad in a few weeks

copper shoal
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I average 1-2 crashes for every 50 hours of playtime.

bitter wraith
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Does anyone have any tips for descent? We both did pure damage (not realising there were 2 nemesises) and got destroyed immediately

gray sluice
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1 nemesis per person

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these talents can help Trauma, clutch, entrench , preservation ,
use nade ,foam decoy whatever u have to stop him shooting to u , try to get Trauma its very helpfull

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dont get blue core before nemesis

full zinc
finite hare
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Dammit. I just completed a stronghold but it wasn’t invaded

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Oh well. Stage 5 technician is taking me a lot less time to complete than I thought

devout iron
finite hare
frigid path
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Hello nice to meet you, i am new

finite hare
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Welcome

tropic compass
tropic compass
drowsy swan
finite hare
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I think Imma play one match of pvp with my incomplete build.🤣 See how it is. Just for fun.

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Wish I had that tech laser rn though

full zinc
drowsy swan
full zinc
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Good entertainment 👍

drowsy swan
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Yea pretty much

oak prawn
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I may just spend monsy on this apperal event

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I could grind

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But

full zinc
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Why buy

finite hare
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My new incomplete build is not bad right now, but DAMN. Pulse takes 100 seconds to come back in conflict

full zinc
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Such an easy gring to unlock everything

oak prawn
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Meh saves time

full zinc
finite hare
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Fuck man. I wish there was an easier way to get specialization points

full zinc
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Doesnt everyone... welcome to div2

oak prawn
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The only thing I like about the apperal event is the 4 free keya you get if you own the sp

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You get 1 freebie regardless

finite hare
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I played two heroic CDs and I only had 6 points. But I already had three before I even activated tech

full zinc
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Do the invaded. Grind shd.

Do bounties give spec points, anyone?

finite hare
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Division did me dirty with those points. When I was playing firewall I would get about 3 every CD

spark tendon
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165 points should take around 55 SHD levels sooooo

finite hare
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Come on bro🤣😭

full zinc
finite hare
spark tendon
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55 SHD isnt that much

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smh

oak prawn
full zinc
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Yeah absolutly

spark tendon
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55 countdowns equals around 20 minutes of gameplay

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thats only 18 hours or so of gameplay lolol

finite hare
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I kinda need to do countdown for the ceska backpack though.

spark tendon
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and thats if u do countdown

oak prawn
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Alr im going back to bed see yall when the update drops

finite hare
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I’m getting bored of countdown though

finite hare
oak prawn
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No Tuesday

full zinc
oak prawn
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Knowing me ill probably sleep close to 20hours

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Then go back ti bed

finite hare
oak prawn
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Your point?

finite hare
full zinc
spark tendon
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i forgot that everyone in division 2 is a adult

oak prawn
finite hare
finite hare
full zinc
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Anything you do will give xp towards shd

kind veldt
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invaded missions also give extra spec points, only first ones of eaech reset

spark tendon
full zinc
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Giving options ,you do you

finite hare
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At least I’m making progress in pvp though. I wouldn’t get a single kill before

finite hare
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PvP is refreshing for me in D2

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On the bright side; I only have to target a couple things in the specialization. Mainly the smg, ar, rifle so I could get the laser, and the pulse resistance

jovial hull
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🦃

peak viper
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where are the voice channels for raids?

viral galleon
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They gone

spark tendon
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non existent

peak viper
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ok .

jade bobcat
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do people still do the Summit in groups?

vale ledge
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yes, because no commitments

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jump in jump out

earnest fractal
gaunt dust
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Realistically how long of a lifespan does D2 have left?

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Before we get D3

jovial hull
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Maybe like another year or 2

earnest fractal
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with all the other stuff Ubi is working on, I wouldnt expect Div 3 any time soon

lean marlin
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I have 16 hyena keys 💀

spark tendon
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Only 16? I have 23

jovial hull
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Only 23 I have 0

fluid meadow
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Only 23? I have 50 of each faction

spark tendon
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i have 20 or so for each faction ong

fluid meadow
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Now i need a guide to where every faction box is

jovial hull
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Aren’t the hyena keys for the chatterbox

fluid meadow
spark tendon
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my god am actually getting bored of div 2 now

jovial hull
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Take a year off

spark tendon
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i have no other games to play tho

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but there is the steam summer sale so...

jovial hull
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When does that end?

fluid meadow
fluid meadow
spark tendon
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also i have no mic for communication

earnest fractal
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kinda similar games coming out this year, co-op looter shooters

  • The First Descendant
  • Atlas Fallen
vale ledge
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remnant2 coming out

spark tendon
copper shoal
kind veldt
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gonna wait for a bit before buying dont want to risk remnant 2 being bad

azure lintel
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Hello does anyone completed the four shields and got div1 iconic jacket to div2 ? “Recently “

jaunty shale
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What skills should i buy first? im somewhat new

surreal orbit
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Gotta love it! Used 5 exo components to reroll my second Elmo, then took a 15 minute run through the DZ and got 6 exo components…. 😂 😆🤣

broken solstice
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not baddd

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you know who you are?

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even steven

jaunty shale
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Alright ty for the great answers 💪

broken solstice
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lol i had good success with a striker drone and a shield

surreal orbit
jaunty shale
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i havnt been downed once so

surreal orbit
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2 minutes after your original post and your complaining….. 🤦‍♂️

jaunty shale
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Shhhh

finite hare
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I need 3 more spec points and I get the laser🥳. Soo close, but I still need to max out my spray and pray passive talent, and get the pulse resistance

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Passive talent

torpid plume
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I had a St Elmos drop at a control point re rolled it once and it gave me maxed out stats + DTOC. A good day.

broken solstice
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wicked

torpid plume
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Didn't even realize it dropped in open world yet

broken solstice
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yeah i was surprised when i get a second one

torpid plume
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It's definitely a good surprise

idle pecan
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or maybe q1 - q2 next year

foggy oar
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Is pulse scanner considered a status effect

last pier
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whats the incentive for new players going into the dz? seems moot if everyone there is running BiS specs 😦

foggy oar
last pier
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switch servers? like, phase out and then go back in?

spark tendon
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Switch to either one of them

foggy oar
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Usually change dark zones

last pier
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ahh

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gotcha

torpid plume
last pier
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cant trust agents in the dz lol come on now 😄

torpid plume
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True, The worst kinds of people live in the DZ but a lot of people run together, I just avoid the DZ mostly even though I have all the meta PvP builds I can't be bothered getting outnumbered lol.

keen lily
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How does Melee damage works? Sometimes i hit 500-600k and the next time i hit 1.5-1.9m ..

torpid plume
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Depends on build/gear

tiny oar
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dont bother with melee honestly, its too risky and doesnt deal a lot anyway

finite hare
finite hare
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Imagine making a melee build in PvP and it actually works🤣

surreal orbit
finite hare
gaunt dust
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Do you all think heartland will be is ripe with cheaters as Div2?

finite hare
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I have a couple gear pieces with melee damage

torpid plume
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I run mine with armor regen and hazpro on as much gear as possible and with claws out, bloody knuckles & lady death.

finite hare
gaunt dust
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Lucky

torpid plume
finite hare
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Well I’ve only been playing for a little over 3 weeks guys

tiny oar
finite hare
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Losing is a part of life. It’s normal

tiny oar
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melee takes too long, is very short range, leaves you defenseless, and you're in the middle of the enemies lige of sight

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but if you have fun, then go for it

gaunt dust
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Winning is fun

tiny oar
finite hare
gaunt dust
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I like having fun and being competitive

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Well no

tiny oar
gaunt dust
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Lol

tiny oar
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im not cheating, still not competitive

finite hare
gaunt dust
tiny oar
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nothing in this game

earnest lava
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leaderboards and speedrunning, which is like 1% of community

tiny oar
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div 2 isnt competitive

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yeah speedrunning is not really a thing either

gaunt dust
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Do you think Heartland will be?

finite hare
finite hare
gaunt dust
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It may not be competitive but there is a meta

tiny oar
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yeah there will always be a meta

earnest lava
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Ubi got lucky with even Rainbow being competitive okay lol, so much unbalanced operators, guns, map glitches, etc

finite hare
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I miss playing gamebattles on Bo3. I’m soo much better now at fps

gaunt dust
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Hopefully XDefiant won’t suck

earnest lava
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yes

tiny oar
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dont get your hopes up, its ubisoft

finite hare
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Dude. Xdefiant is dope. I had fun

gaunt dust
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Do you think Div 2 isn’t competitive because of cheaters?

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Could it be?

earnest lava
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because of the genre and how its played, there isnt even customs is there for conflict?

finite hare
gaunt dust
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I don’t think the devs want it to be competitive, though

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Ya know

finite hare
earnest lava
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Im happy massive is coming back to the game in a more serious approach

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good for ubisoft as a company focusing on a main game

earnest lava
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this new year 5

gaunt dust
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Oh right

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Same

earnest lava
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which i dont consider new until end of year 5

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exactly i agree with you

gaunt dust
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So will we get a year six?

earnest lava
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of course, that's when the new seasons and dlc story is just kicking off, they wouldnt close down shop right after

gaunt dust
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I mean look at For Honor, Rainbow Six..

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Right, I meant yr 7

earnest lava
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those games play completely different since this is a open world looter game

tiny oar
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same as destiny 2 isnt competitive

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its a looter shooter before all

gaunt dust
earnest lava
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Destiny 2 also feels a lot like halo so that helps

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div 2 aint playing like no halo

tiny oar
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halo isnt looter shooter

earnest lava
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just talking about the first person feel

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then when you pick up a scorch cannon and feel instantly summoned back to halo

gaunt dust
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So you’re saying ppl like nothing but skillz isn’t competitive 😮 😆

tiny oar
earnest lava
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its fps all the way, its just that with these new subclasses they only introduced for money messed up everything, cant focused on the already clapped subclasses they had

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same with rainbow introducing new operators every 3 months or whatever instead of more resources on balancing

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Anyways though the new gamemode and style for manhunts this season at least shows an attempt at innovation by Massive and is a good start for a new year so I'm happy for another 11 weeks

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Since an incursion and new manhunt is the only new things for next season, Massive fo sure gonna focus on refining descent more and with a good amount of balancing updates to weigh down the lack of content in the 3-4 month span should be pretty solid, if we get more new sets or exotics that would be cool too

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A dev confirmed this in an interview i watched this morning so its good they have awareness on these things as well

earnest lava
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ill link it here for you to watch, pretty sure its allowed since its div 2 related

frozen meadow
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It is

kind veldt
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well summit was similar, but summit was fucking rushed

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release game mode, then fix it and add what was really needed later

earnest lava
frozen meadow
kind veldt
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well it does feel the dev team is 5 people in shack with budget of a tin can somehow

frozen meadow
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That's not entirely inaccurate

kind veldt
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i dont know the reality of things but thats the general impression, they really can't keep hyping it up "this is where all our effort went" for year 5 when it starts not great

stark hare
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How do I get zero fs

kind veldt
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farming named caces, or chest pieces

earnest lava
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at the end of the day its always the higher ups that make the decisions on what gets released, how, when, why, where, etc

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id never get mad at the dev

kind veldt
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well i just look foward for the incursion

frozen meadow
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Yeah and if you don't like it then feel free to apply to join the team

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Never complain about a problem you don't have a solution to

kind veldt
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hey i complained so much about ongoing directive that they actually fixed like i said they would

earnest lava
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Just hope the incursion is a real step up from a stronghold

frozen meadow
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You? Lmao

frozen meadow
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Div 1 incursions were pretty neat

earnest lava
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I love the falcon lost pit so much

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im a menace

wild grotto
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hey do I get a higher exotic drop chance if I up my global difficullty?

kind veldt
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incursions are a sweet spot in between legendary and raids in terms of design

kind veldt
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yeap, higher diff more exotics

frozen meadow
earnest lava
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I know i just hope they dont forget that and make super super simple mechanics

kind veldt
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you dont want to bloat difficulty honestly

earnest lava
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like pull 3 levers in order

kind veldt
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you dont want to go from a game that had 4 difficulty tiers to 7 and all are bad

earnest lava
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i did really love the hunters, maybe they can take some inspiration from that

wild grotto
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Ok so I just started getting into endgame, what would be a good difficulty level to go for?

frozen meadow
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Challenging or heroic

kind veldt
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hard/challenging

frozen meadow
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Probably challenging

kind veldt
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if challenging is safe, then go for heroic

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just dont jump into legandary with purple gear like some people did in the first week

frozen meadow
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Lol

kind veldt
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never again

frozen meadow
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Idiots lmao

wild grotto
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ok I will go for challenging then so I can hopefully get this scorpio to drop

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yes I only have on high end and pieces of a gear set!

kind veldt
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i stil lhave PTSD from the immortal support stations from legendary capitol from the release

frozen meadow
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I love how this game will make some actually challenging content then nerf it to the ground

kind veldt
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add to that a guy with 4 blue cores and 2 red using mostly purple gear

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well that gif of 4 DPS shooting the thing and not dieing kinda proved a point of them being busted

frozen meadow
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I seriously hope the incursion has some actual difficulty to it

tiny oar
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i had peace

kind veldt
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i hope it doesnt have bad mechanics that force discord

frozen meadow
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You know it will

reef reef
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tbh i hope it does

frozen meadow
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Lmao

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I hope it does and then ubi gets enough hate to bring back vcs

kind veldt
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incursions are not raid, if they do that then they are bad at their jobs

frozen meadow
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Incursions can be fairly similar

kind veldt
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coordinations sure

reef reef
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i hope the incursions have mechanics worse than raids and you need a full team of gamers who know exactly what they are doing to get it done

frozen meadow
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Not the 4 bosses in a row type thing

kind veldt
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but not have someone in the mic doing math puzzle to 7 others spread on hte map

frozen meadow
undone timber
frozen meadow
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Aren't incursions 4 people not 8

reef reef
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just because people complain about not wanting to do raids, i want it to be worse

frozen meadow
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Nay aspect I genuinely agree with that lol

kind veldt
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guess thats a bit too much

reef reef
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@kind veldt Yeah, dont do that

frozen meadow
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I want an actually difficult challenge in this game

reef reef
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i'm half memeing half actually serious

frozen meadow
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Where it's difficult regardless how many times you replay it

undone timber
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Legendary was annoying but with skill builds it's just cheese

frozen meadow
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I want a mission that has difficulty regardless of replayability

kind veldt
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yeah i get it, thought poopy head would have made the joke clear

earnest lava
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it should be where all 4 people have to know what to do for sure

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if you dont wipe pls

kind veldt
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the cleaner incursions was pretty good

reef reef
kind veldt
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something like that is good enough for me

earnest lava
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this incursion will be cleaners btw

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so happy about that

kind veldt
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yeah i know

undone timber
earnest lava
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cleaners are my fav, their weakpoints make me hard

kind veldt
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better have exotic shotgun with dragons breath rounds as reward

earnest lava
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explosions cool too

reef reef
kind veldt
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i mean thats how it already is on the game

finite hare
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Yo. Is ongoing directive good? I saw that it amplifies your damage by 20% and give you hollow point bullets that apply bleed

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I’m interested

earnest lava
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Id make a support build out of it

kind veldt
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went from bad to decent, good if you play in groups or just matchmake it

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everyone kills faster making the job easier

finite hare
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I’m talking about for pvp

earnest lava
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hell no

reef reef
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i hope it doesnt have matchmaking....

undone timber
finite hare
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That +30% reload speed would be amazing

kind veldt
reef reef
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lmao if you think i'm baiting you you just dont know me

earnest lava
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nah chief got a million better options than that for pvp fo sure

undone timber
kind veldt
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more that i had this exact conversation 2 days ago

tiny oar
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incursions should have matchmaking

kind veldt
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so some deja vu

tiny oar
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like div 1

finite hare
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And then that +15% status effect shees

earnest lava
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you gonna see some level 5s and 10s queuing

finite hare
earnest lava
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i hope no matchmaking

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but prob will

kind veldt
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the 15% status effect is really not that great since bleed from ongoing directive is not that good

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but dont know about PVP so wrong person to ask about that specific

tiny oar
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i mean we saw people with no mods on skills in incursions, newsbies happen, but still, most of the time team was clean-ish

reef reef
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the only status stuff thats good in pvp is disabling statuses, like foam or jammer or fire. Otherwise damage is just better, Ongoing is just not great for pvp

earnest lava
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im the type of person to get the people who cant name 5 colors

surreal orbit
finite hare
reef reef
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orange.... blue.... orange... red... orange

kind veldt
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they had in the first game nad it was fine

tiny oar
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why not, we had matchmaking in div 1, why not in div 2

reef reef
earnest lava
reef reef
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still using blue items, they r good right? /s

earnest lava
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oh hell nah

kind veldt
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i'm the weirdo that liked the previous version of ongoing directive that gave you flat 30 rounds, just because that way i could always have ammo for shotguns

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and bighorn, kinda works great with it odd enough

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since it just becomes a scoped sniper with lots of hollow points rounds

finite hare
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Damn. The chat was all busy and then it died all of a sudden🤣

kind veldt
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thats ongoing directive for you, it just flops dead after a while

finite hare
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Good one, but I still have hope

magic ridge
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in the rude, the bad and the evil project I can't donate my last item even I have that.What can ı do?

finite hare
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I still have dream

kind veldt
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which project is that again? is the item marked as favourite?

undone timber
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I assume it's for the Dodge city holster

surreal orbit
finite hare
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I don’t know what gun to use with the tech laser. I have a dark winter with booty rolls. 9.5% chc, and accuracy and an aug with swap speed, but with sadist.

magic ridge
undone timber
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Or any flatline M4/C7

finite hare
undone timber
#

At that point I'd suggest running firewall instead

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And switching closer for another chest

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If you're using wicked I suggest Ridgeway's pride and a sadist smg

finite hare
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It’s my PvP build. I’m using hive for bleed to activate wicked

undone timber
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Oh I see

finite hare
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Yes. Yes, indeed.

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Should I run pulse jammer for the squad and I?

undone timber
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I don't really dabble in PvP but as far as I understand it the jammer is pretty effective

finite hare
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Okay. Imma use that aug smg with sadist

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People have been saying it’s ass but fuck it. I really do want to use that garbage dark winter I have because of the fast fire rate though

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Unless I use the grudge

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Nvm. Can’t use the grudge for the tech laser

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😢

stuck sable
#

Does anyone know if Emperor's Guard can be dropped from Named Caches?

undone timber
kind veldt
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yeah Elmo is a hard counter to OD and vice versa

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having both on the samea team creates issues

stuck sable
# undone timber They can

Perfect thanks! Also, I actually do have a FI build as well, but I wanted to try my hand at a build that was meant to be a mix of healing and a debuffer. The healing isn't too bad and it helps a bunch with my buddy's Negotiator build

stuck sable
kind veldt
#

still think they should make a gas granade gear set that heals allies and damages enemies

timber hatch
#

OD isn't debuffing anything though, it's only giving your teammates less damage and less healing

stuck sable
stuck sable
kind veldt
#

support would be a better world, but for actual debuff an true patriot might work better, since the extended magazine size might work well with Elmo

stuck sable
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Yeah, support may be the more accurate description. Funny enough, I run 2pc Patriot and 2pc Brasoz for the funsies, and I get 106 in the mag on my St. Elmo. Ninjabike fills the slots necessary

timber hatch
kind veldt
#

well now we have AR but its actiually like an SMG, AR but it's actually like a sniper and AR but it's actually like a LMG

stuck sable
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We're getting closer and closer to real life at this point lmao

kind veldt
#

when are we getting AR but it's actually like a shotgun?

stuck sable
#

May as well be the Rock n' Roll at this point lol

frozen meadow
kind veldt
#

i dont know

wet igloo
#

Like an origin 12 type of thing?

frozen meadow
#

what

kind veldt
#

thats just a magfeed shotgun

frozen meadow
#

are you saying an ar that fires shells

kind veldt
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no thats some weird turkish shotguns that are based on the AR model but are shotguns, Origin 12 just looks like a big massive rifle

frozen meadow
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do you have a model

kind veldt
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just make an exotic AR with an underbarrel shotgun, every X% of the magazine spent it adds more buckshot, you fire it by holding the reload button

frozen meadow
#

that sounds weird

kind veldt
#

lemme google the name of the weird turk shotgun

stuck sable
#

On the subject of shotguns, how viable are they in D2? I've never made one but I've got some god rolls of several shotties

frozen meadow
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not very

real creek
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Scorpio is the best exotic in the game tho!

kind veldt
#

MKA 1919

frozen meadow
kind veldt
#

shotguns are now ina good place

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just getting a basic HF build with any shotgun works

frozen meadow
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ill take m870 over scorpio for dps

finite hare
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I hate when people run shotgun builds in conflict

real creek
#

I just like using the M870 on my reg HH build to blow off helmets of chungs.

kind veldt
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but they are very range limited, so you have to play very risky

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which is where HF shines the most

finite hare
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Is the spas hood?

kind veldt
#

decent enouugh

finite hare
#

No. I meant hood

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🤣

frozen meadow
#

?

finite hare
#

Why does autocorrect want me to say hood instead of good

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What is autocorrect trying to say

frozen meadow
#

last i checked it was bad

warped knoll
#

Right my buddy started playing but I can’t join or inv it says player hasn’t started expansion?

frozen meadow
#

lvl 30 cant join 40

real creek
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40 can join 30 tho.

finite hare
#

My cousin was level 3 and he was able to group up with me

frozen meadow
#

THIS

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did he join you or vice versa

warped knoll
#

No I tried joining him

wet igloo
#

An M16 that shoots shells???

real creek
#

Think of it as a gate. You can go down but not up. You do get stuck in NY doing WONY IIRC.

frozen meadow
finite hare
#

The laser pointer is one of the best attachments

frozen meadow
#

debatable

kind veldt
#

yeah weird gun

wet igloo
#

Turks are some crazy mfs

warped knoll
#

Does he need to do something to the White House before I can?

untold path
#

why do i only get purple loot in heroic with all directives on, on world exploration ?

warped knoll
#

Or ny?

frozen meadow
finite hare
frozen meadow
#

its spec locked

warped knoll
#

All the nyc missions right?

frozen meadow
#

yes

warped knoll
#

Right

real creek
scenic vale
#

Anyone else having horrible lag today? The motion is jittery, and it take several seconds for menus to come up when I hit escape or check the inventory

frozen meadow
#

just u

finite hare
finite hare
frozen meadow
#

what

finite hare
#

With dark winter right now

frozen meadow
real creek
frozen meadow
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since youre brand locked

finite hare
frozen meadow
real creek
finite hare
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I just barely got the laser. I just need to max out a couple more passive talents

tiny oar
# untold path anyone ?

you dont only get purple, but its part of the loot, also caches in openworld are trash, dont bother

frozen meadow
real creek
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I read that like wat then the edit came in.

untold path
frozen meadow
#

sorry lol descent

real creek
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I think they did the open world boxes as junk so people wouldn't just run around grabbing items and building characters.

frozen meadow
#

^

real creek
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You'd have people posting yt vids like I DIDN'T KILL A SINGLE ENEMY FOR THIS BUILD

frozen meadow
#

lol true

scenic vale
real creek
frozen meadow
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defo

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im on descent rn with no issues

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farmin for bps

real creek
#

I've got my home network on UPS now and I def need to get a timed outlet to reset my network now that it never looses power.

finite hare
#

The augs rpm feels soo weird after using the vector

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It feels uncomfortable

frozen meadow
#

use famas

fallow idol
#

Can you get the Gamology outfit from apparel caches or is it premium credits only? Anyone know?

frozen meadow
#

was that from an old apparel event

fallow idol
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Not sure, I just saw it in the store.

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Missing it and all the “Team Spirit” outfits.

undone timber
#

Try buying it with textiles and see if that works

finite hare
fallow idol
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It’s all premium credit.

frozen meadow
#

then chances are its not in the pool

undone timber
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Or it's store exclusive

fallow idol
#

It’s crazy because I only need a few items, but I’m not gonna sit here and open a billion caches

finite hare
undone timber
#

Caches only have a limited pool anyway

frozen meadow
#

for pvp?

real creek
#

There are ways to open apparel caches.... But I'd have to DM you about it.

frozen meadow
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lmao what

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of course you can open apparel caches

real creek
#

You were there for that convo.

undone timber
finite hare
# frozen meadow for pvp?

Yes ma’am. I’m using hive for the bleed status effect. I tried it earlier in conflict with demolitionist and pulse, and it did pretty good. It surprised me

frozen meadow
#

if you want all apparel items youll have to spend irl money

real creek
#

Yeah I'm just talking about the drag of opening all of them.

tiny oar
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yeah, skins are paid with real money

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only basics skins are free

frozen meadow
#

i spent around 100 on the store

undone timber
real creek
undone timber
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Those the only 2 I want in the whole store now lol

tiny oar
real creek
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Or Tacos... rip

tiny oar
frozen meadow
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i dont like garlic bread

tiny oar
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i got like 10k of it

undone timber
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They're both locked behind premium credits

real creek
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Can't get everything with textiles.

tiny oar
#

well then, real money it is

frozen meadow
#

i love the spec skins

real creek
full zinc
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I think you only have to open 200-300 apperel caches to have enough textiles for all the free items

real creek
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I opened like 400 a month ago and it wasn't enough.

frozen meadow
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enough textiles?

real creek
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Yeah but I figure it's because I could buy a bunch of things that were old events I wasn't around for.

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So I just think for me there was much more to buy.

stuck sable
#

I'm wondering if I can do a cosplay of Mr. Foster with the apparel. I've got the suit and mask, just need the pants

frozen meadow
#

descent run doin well so far

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almost to nem maybe 3 or 4 rooms to go

full zinc
scenic vale
frozen meadow
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1 arena then nem

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i wonder what my timell be

real creek
frozen meadow
#

nem time

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done

kind veldt
#

are you winning son?

frozen meadow
#

33:06 not bad

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time for another lmao

real creek
full zinc
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Oh jesus

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Its been a minute since I opened anything

real creek
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Yeah I took an almost 3 year break so I didn't have like anything that had been added after year one until just a couple months ago.

kind veldt
#

nothing like losing count for a currency you have too much and nothing to use on

real creek
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Yeah most items are like 600 up to like 1200 textiles.

#

rip another 12k textiles gone, but it seems that I've finally bought everything I can with textiles in the store. At least for now, not sure if more come into rotation or something like that.

#

Huh you get a free Doctor home? In the store in the grants tab? Didn't know that.

full zinc
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The last thing that came available was that hunter outfit from friend referrals. Ide like to see rotation but doubt it will happen. Easy money from ppl that HAVE to complete stuff 😅

real creek
full zinc
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Most definitely

frozen meadow
#

i dont mind it

real creek
#

Do you check to see if your door is locked multiple times?

frozen meadow
#

thats more paranoia than ocd

real creek
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Sure... I'm not going to go into how that disorder affects people as it was just a joke.

frozen meadow
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i know how it does, because it affects me

real creek
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Well I just wish they didn't mix match what's textile and credits purchased cause you end up with half finished outfits.

frozen meadow
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theres only like 2 or 3 that are mixed

real creek
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maybe if you were playing to complete events.

frozen meadow
#

fair

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im on loop 4 rn no cc

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lil annoyed\

real creek
#

17 outfits if I counted right, all have at least one part of the outfit.

frozen meadow
#

i hope i get some form of cc soon

real creek
#

I bet new players would have even more gaps in theirs.

frozen meadow
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foam or firestarter pls 🙏

#

DAMMIT

real creek
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Nem just gonna oxy you then lol

frozen meadow
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doesnt matter if they die

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i have to settle with flame turret somehow

real creek
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Eh kinda works when you smack it right on the door.

frozen meadow
#

nem has no door?

real creek
#

I'm just saying in general.

frozen meadow
#

im only going to nem

real creek
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Nem just get special rounds.

frozen meadow
#

???

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where are you getting this info

real creek
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You can get high velocity rounds.

frozen meadow
#

high velocity has lower impact on elites

real creek
#

You never tried it?

frozen meadow
#

the description says that lol

real creek
#

So you have not tried it?

frozen meadow
#

also im face tanking nem

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yes ive tried it lol

finite hare
#

How do I get the extendo mag for the kingbreaker?

real creek
tiny oar
finite hare
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What’s cp3?

frozen meadow
#

all you need is basic cc

real creek
#

Capture points

tiny oar
#

control points

real creek
#

3 and 4 refer to challenging or heroic.

tiny oar
frozen meadow
#

what was your cc

tiny oar
#

fire or foam i dont remember

frozen meadow
#

they cant ignore either of those, you just missed then

tiny oar
#

he just litterally ignored it and ran me down to onetap me, he had the cc shown next to his bar but kept on moving

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enemies do that sometime, it happens a lot tp me recently with elmos

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people getting shocked yet moving

frozen meadow
#

they do that with fire

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nem cant get shocked

tiny oar
#

no im talking elmo no decent

frozen meadow
#

the whole convo was descent tho

finite hare
#

Peace y’all. Enjoy your day

tiny oar
#

yeah i was making an example of enemies moving despite cc with elmo

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nem did the same with me

frozen meadow
#

moving with fire is normal

azure lintel
frozen meadow
#

blind too

tiny oar
frozen meadow
#

yes it is

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fuck do you think theyd do

real creek
#

Tons of times enemies on fire will NYOOM while on fire as if they are using the flames as a speed boost.

kind veldt
#

i think the best examples of conflicting animations are shield hyenas

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sliding while on fire or etc

real creek
#

oh the slide fire is good too. I guess you've gotta use a EP fire build to really see all the different ways things on fire behave.

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It's just funny to see them on fire doing all the normal things then randomly half way thru the burn they go oh right I'm on fire and do the little fire dance.

raw geyser
#

😔 so go back to DX-11 to see if DX-12 mode is whats causing the game to be unstable

frozen meadow
#

i havent had stability issues with this game at all

raw geyser
frozen meadow
#

not for me

raw geyser
#

sometimes itll be open the whole time
stometimes it crashes ~20 minutes into a play session

mighty meteor
#

whats the best way to get exotics? im tryna get ninja messenger

frozen meadow
#

backpack or kneepads

mighty meteor
#

bag

raw geyser
#

testing DX-11 mode

frozen meadow
#

it can only be found through exotic caches if you dont have it already

mighty meteor
#

okay thank you

frozen meadow
#

lmao i just spawn killed nemesis

#

31:01

heady depot
#

Why the hell is countdown so stuip to host

#

Stupid

azure lintel
#

Anyone else experiencing broken propaganda broadcasts? Ive started 3 in the past 2 hours and not a single one has dropped the authorization key

shrewd quail
#

Hello general chat

fiery cloud
#

Hey Souless,Eevee

frozen meadow
shrewd valve
#

can we ever expect division 2 to actually work without loading glitches and bugs?

kind veldt
#

well not in the reality we live in

real fjord
#

Good evening everyone, hope your having a great day div2love

real fjord
#

😄

viscid cargo
#

i HATE tactical assessment >:(

shrewd valve
#

good for you?

kind veldt
#

connection issues are mostly form the server side of things and the crash and freeze is mostly due some weird PC only issue, consoles appear to be mostly safe in general for div 2

shrewd valve
#

i’ve experienced a bug twice in a row so far where when i kill the last target for the manhunt it loads my entire squad back at the start without giving us any time to pick up the loot.

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We had to run the regular mission just to get our loot from the boss

copper shoal
shrewd valve
shrewd quail
#

My favorite is not being able to complete control points because enemies are stuck outside the map

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Bugs and glitches aren’t the end of the world, but it’s annoying when it’s consistent and in some cases game breaking

formal summit
#

Descent takes so long to have me crash and ruin the run I'm on with other people since they can't advance, I am so happy with the way you "fixed" the exploit and the way descent has been balanced, keep up the great work. Super duper.

hard apex
#

how to kill logan aggro smitch in legendarty?

real creek
#

Which mission?

#

I don't remember people names.

hard apex
#

distreict union

real creek
#

Gotta break his backpack then it's all headshots.

#

You can just pew his head off but you need some setup and one shot stuff for it cause the heals are too much for most people.

#

So break backpack then shoot him in the head and that's do it.

kind veldt
#

oh and stay very far from him

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a team spread out is better

hard apex
#

ok done. thank mate

#

I was typing, in mission 😛 we couldn't kill it 😛

kind veldt
#

he's probably the easiest one of the legendary

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a good team is easy to farm bighorn in there

real creek
#

Roosevelt island is pretty easy too. I'd say zoo or tidal is the worst. Really a good team and know how changes the feel of a legendary so much.

shrewd quail
#

Should I use my 46 apparel cache keys

real creek
shrewd quail
#

I have 26 more things to collect

#

Doubt I’ll get all of them tbh

real creek
#

Oh you wont.

shrewd quail
#

I’ll probably get 3 and a bunch of textiles

real creek
#

It's a chance and probability thing. They aren't the same and math is math yo. It'll probably take you a few hundred keys if you are lucky to get the rest.

shell dagger
#

the fucking invaded manning national zoo mission is utter cancer

jaunty shale
#

Can someone explain what the dark zone is?

knotty quail
#

Area of the map with some exclusive loot, but you need to extract it before you are able to get it in your inventory

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Main point is there is other players there who are able to engage you

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Also steal your loot while extracting

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Most people go there for the PvP, not the loot tho

jaunty shale
#

I was in it and i couldnt shoot other players? do u have to be in the rogue state to kill others?

knotty quail
#

Yes

#

Rogue to kill other players or rogues, can shoot rogues while not rogue

#

At least that's how it worked in Div1, not sure if they changed it

kind veldt
#

Previously you would only turn rogue when you dealt enough damage to someone, right now people need to turn rogue first to then engage you

void kettle
#

Anyone else got problems with hiding the signature weapon? Can’t hold 🔼 to change it.. (I’m on PS5)

real creek
#

So in the normal ones you need to T or whatever key needed per platform but in invaded you just pew pew people.

timber hatch
kind veldt
#

and when you call an heli it might be black tusk ambush

sick trellis
#

Hi guys!!
Can I get the ninja backpack if I start playing this season??Well I started the last week of last season, but I can get it by farming in target loot or boxes

finite hare
cinder cloud
#

i love it when the game crashes as soon as the hunters are dead and i'm about to grab loot

river wyvern
#

ik, i didn't go in to details

#

just mentioning the title isn't against NDA

finite hare
river wyvern
kind veldt
#

never seen anyone reconnect to a countdown

river wyvern
#

yeah, i didn't get in the close beta, there are leaks on youtube i was watching 😉

#

haha alright

finite hare
#

Sometimes my frame rate lag looks like I’m playing an old school arcade game

river wyvern
#

winks

river wyvern
#

i think there's a chat log in one of hidden admin channel, deleting won't make a difference only to get urself highlighted XD

#

shhhh

frozen meadow
#

Seeker mine out

oak prawn
#

seeker mine squad roll out

tame dune
#

Good evening guys, can someone help me? First time raiding, how do I find a group?

#

What do I have to write on the lfg?

oak prawn
#

judt say new to raids looking for a group to do them with

#

id recommend dark hours first its the easier of the 2

#

its a massive dps check all you need is a good red build and your good

#

iron horse requires more communication and there are more mechanics

tame dune
#

thank you very much, sorry to bother

#

Cheers

drifting shale
#

Did they remove the voice chat channels?

jovial hull
#

Finally got to summit floor 100

#

Got an exotic culled liberty or something idk if it’s good or not

sick trellis
#

It's good 4 collection

jovial hull
#

Checked the name again yeah that one

#

Might just stick to my current exotic though since it doesn’t fit with my hf build

bitter wraith
#

In the nemesis encounter and it won't spawn

kind veldt
#

liberty is useful for generic builds that dont use primary exotics because of it's high damage as backup

bitter wraith
#

Bugs in descent:
Running out and into the arena after a wave will retriever the wave and allow you to choose another bonus stat.
In the nemesis encounter, none will spawn and it will say wait for everyone to encounter. Exploding self with grenade with teammate nearby will cause you to be KICKED from the descent but will still somehow get stuff

#

Probably a load more we don't know about which is unsurprising

jovial hull
#

Does it kick you because of friendly fire or something?

bitter wraith
jovial hull
bitter wraith
jovial hull
bitter wraith
shrewd valve
#

i’ve got a perfect ceska that just needs its hazard protection switched. What skill should i switch it out for on a ongoing directive build?

undone timber
#

OD isn't very good to be honest especially with everyone running st Elmo's

undone timber
#

Everyone runs Saint Elmo's in pve too lol

shrewd valve
#

yeah but i get bored of it

undone timber
#

Thing is running OD will wipe their shock ammo whenever you get hollow points

shrewd valve
#

i don’t think that’s much of an issue when i’m running countdown

undone timber
#

It's not huge it's just annoying

#

Cuz bleed is a fairly useless status

jovial hull
#

I hate that when I hear st Elmo I think of that little red bastard and his golden shoes

finite hare
#

@shrewd valve look bro, run whatever you want.

vale ledge
shrewd valve
plush blaze
#

I lost all my descent progress because of these dogshit crashing problems

shrewd valve
plush blaze
#

yup. if that's gonna happen I now have a subconcious seed of fear for "losing progress and everything" planted now

jaunty shale
#

How much did yall pay for ur warlords extension?

narrow sun
#

Just started playing th division 2 for the first time, whats one piece of advice for a new player? Ive played other looter shooters like d2 and borderlands but never a 3rd person cover shooter like this

finite hare
finite hare
jaunty shale
#

Ah alright

oak prawn
vale ledge
#

you can play with gearsets tho

#

they give you abilities

oak prawn
#

Most people don't they just put on whatever is the highest level gear they have atm

surreal charm
#

Hey is there anyone willing to help out a fellow division agent get to lvl 40 I’m like 8 lvl away

surreal charm
full zinc
vale ledge
#

not everybody and their parents/children run st-elmo

oak prawn
#

Alot do though

opal radish
vale ledge
#

the weapon feels ridiculous at times, i nerf myself by using MG5 or something

opal radish
#

that thing is crazy

vale ledge
#

i use fast hands, Sleiper is great but I only bring it into legendary.

opal radish
#

it melts

opal radish
west bough
#

Just got a memento baby level 42 checking in 🫡

opal radish
west bough
#

My g ik

vale ledge
#

i only use sadist when i'm using ridgeway, or flatline if i'm doing heartbreaker/spotter-tech stuff, else its fast hands most of the time

west bough
#

Switched from console to pc lol

#

-2500 shd levels

opal radish
#

never played on console

west bough
#

Runs amazing. Surprisingly enough I haven't experienced a single crash yet

#

Games been running for 8 hrs today

oak prawn
#

Oh just you wait

#

🤣

vale ledge
#

the crash is pretty random, i crashed 7 times today, but 1 time yesterday

west bough
#

Lmfao are there specific instances that force it?

opal radish
#

Yup Just Wait™

west bough
#

Heard its like at the end of missions etc

vale ledge
#

no idea, i suspect its memory being blocked by ubisoft-connect or the drm

opal radish
west bough
#

Lmao I see

oak prawn
#

I open task manager go to easy anti cheat set affinity to only 1 cpu and I barley crash

west bough
#

Surprised it hasn't ive been streaming it as well. My pc is hella outdated

vale ledge
#

maybe thats one way to mitigate the crash

opal radish
oak prawn
#

I also keep vsync off

#

And set the fps at a certain cap

west bough
oak prawn
#

For me it's 120 fps

opal radish
#

it isn't necessary what works for someone else works for You just RnG in Crashes

oak prawn
#

Skill issue 🤣

gaunt dust
#

Do you guys think Massive is already working on Div 3?

torpid plume
#

No

oak prawn
#

No

west bough
#

0 crashes in 2 days EZ Clap Prayge

gaunt dust
#

Why

oak prawn
#

We still got heartland and resurgence

opal radish
#

Heartland is in beta and avatar too

gaunt dust
#

Right but I’m not hearing good things

oak prawn
#

Div 3 is probably not on thier to do list

vale ledge
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they just need to fix the crash and reorg TD2 content

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the games still look good

opal radish
gaunt dust
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So far at least..and Heartland won’t be near as intuitive as Div2

oak prawn
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Well the crashes happen due to an error in the games code huntres

opal radish
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that's happened when switched from div1 to div2

vale ledge
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it doesnt happen to consoles tho

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so i really suspect its the ubisoft connect and other drm stuff

opal radish
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Nowadays few people play div1

oak prawn
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Div1 DZ is still the best

opal radish
gaunt dust
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From what I heard Heartland won’t have builds

vale ledge
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TD1 lacks certain QoL features like the camera... also missing terrain heights

opal radish
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like I just played resistance yesterday for 3 hours

oak prawn
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I wanted to have stealth takedowns but that idea for scrapped🥲

opal radish
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got to wave 38 in peir 93

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WT5

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not a single problem

gaunt dust
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Also shouldn’t they have to support Div 2 at least two more yrs? Even if there’s a Div 3?

oak prawn
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We don't know what is coming after Y5

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And with 2 new games coming

gaunt dust
opal radish
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yup

oak prawn
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I think once heartland and resurgence drop thsy will focus on keeping them alive for a while

molten spire
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Heartland and Resurgence are by different teams

vale ledge
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Ubisoft has alot of 'throwaway' titles

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Ubisoft still learning how to do games-as-a-service.

gaunt dust
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You guys don’t think they’ll want to put out Div 3 in time for Bungies Marathon?

oak prawn
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For all we know Y5 could be the end of div2

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We probably won't know till next year when Y5S4 drops

vale ledge
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TD3 is a risky proposition right now, I doubt they have sufficient manpower and time for it

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they want to build Apex Legends kind of thing via R6.Siege

gaunt dust
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They have 20,000 employees

molten spire
vale ledge
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20,000 employees, not all full time

molten spire
opal radish
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for div3 to work it has to combine best of div1 and div2

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marketing too

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not everyone is developer

gaunt dust
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It’ll be huge at least when it does drop

shrewd valve
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is it possible to turn eclipse protocol into a room nuke build?

gaunt dust
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Plus their working on a new Ghost Recon

molten spire
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The Ubisoft Model (TM) is having multiple teams of developers across different studios developing different projects that come out at various times

vale ledge
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the last few franchises Ubisoft kinda messed up, heard they going back to the roots, but so many complaints about star wars:outlaw and defiant and stuff...

opal radish
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it can clear a room on heroic easy

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yeah

shrewd valve
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seriously?

molten spire
shrewd valve
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could you tell me the template?

oak prawn
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New AC coming this fall looks like they going back to the roots

opal radish
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no classics like splinter cell Prince of Persia

vale ledge
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Eclipse: only bring Vile if you do fire...if foam use other things

opal radish
shrewd valve
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hm okay so i have to use fire

gaunt dust
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New Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, AC, XDefiant

opal radish
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bag and chest are muat

molten spire
oak prawn
opal radish
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POP remake has been delayed and delayed

gaunt dust
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Right

molten spire
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GR Frontlines is basically dead

vale ledge
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Ubisoft cant' really do classics unless they want to take even more risk by catering to the older players.

gaunt dust
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Which is likely

molten spire
vale ledge
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take Square-Enix for example, FF16 + Octopath2. FF16 is great for newcomers but get shitted upon by some classic FF ppl. Octopath2 is shunned by newcomers.

opal radish
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what happened to ftc vs Microsoft

gaunt dust
molten spire
# gaunt dust They can do a mix

Splinter Cell Blacklist tried accommodating the Conviction gunplay with the classic stealth stuff.

It sold the worst out of the games, although I wonder how much of that is Conviction's fault

opal radish
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ok

vale ledge
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Microsoft AB merger is delayed, but their existing merge contract dateline will end soon (need renewal)

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this is problematic for Microsoft and AB

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probably +losses for Microsoft

opal radish
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same with tower and Intel deal

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deadline is close

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Microsoft is trying to be monopolistic like Sony has on consoles

vale ledge
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hard to get profit margins out there for the C* people

gaunt dust
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Xbox deserves a win