#td2-general-chat

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frozen meadow
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That's what it is endgame

potent echo
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Mm

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Is hardcore mode available now?

tender wave
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Yeah you choose it when you create a new character

potent echo
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Mm

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I have doubt will I get lvl 10 newbie players to play co-op story missions?

void kettle
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Is there a channel in here that shows the daily loot map??

frozen meadow
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No

tender wave
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It's unlikely, unless you have friends who recently started. Most players are in endgame. You can call for backup if you're struggling but whoever answers will likely just rampage straight through everything.

potent echo
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I mean not in this channel but somewhere In other lfg groups

Or only all division players play end game only?

potent echo
tender wave
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Most do yeah. Try looking in #lfg-pc

potent echo
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Mm

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What happens if lvl 40 player plays with me and we do lvl 12 story mission is he overpowered and finish fast? Or he will be downscaled to my lvl?

tender wave
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He'll be OP

timber hatch
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You'll be scaled up to almost theirs. But since they likely have some sort of build together and since your leveling you've just got whatever on, they will be quite a bit stronger

potent echo
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Mm

tropic compass
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OFC assault rifles was in the dz yesterday and I missed it again

frozen meadow
true inlet
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Guys how do i farm exotics the fastest?

frozen meadow
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Countdown or summit

balmy orbit
frozen meadow
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Getting exotics in dark zone isn't a good way to farm tbh

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The drop chance is 0.0072 iirc

balmy orbit
frozen meadow
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Well now you know

balmy orbit
frozen meadow
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It only drops from exotic.caches unless you have the blueprint for it already

balmy orbit
frozen meadow
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Yup

balmy orbit
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😭

true inlet
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ive hit 3 in one game and been playing for 12 hours straight and did not get anymore

frozen meadow
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Lol

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Sometimes it just do be like that

balmy orbit
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the game just hates me

frozen meadow
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Lol

balmy orbit
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punishment for 2 years...

frozen meadow
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I could prolly use a catharsis on my hc

celest isle
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Do i have to do something special for the Chameleon (because i dont have it right now) to get it? or can i targeted farm it ?

frozen meadow
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You can targeted farm it

celest isle
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without having a "first drop" ? 😄

azure lintel
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In the walker and harris dz

verbal mica
frozen meadow
cinder nacelle
tawny garden
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Not too hard to get it

silent mural
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I just remembered I had a dream last night where I got an exotic pistol named "Bee's Wax" or smth

It was a pistol with a silencer and a stock

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it's probably a desert eagle too

tawny garden
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You sure you didnt dream about the "busy bee" ?

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Does season passes go on sale sometimes?

silent mural
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only difference is that the "dream pistol" had a stock

stable pawn
stable pawn
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Yes, if you do them you will end up with a Chameleon, how many it takes is of course rng. Had at least 6-8 in a day before. Usually if I am doing them all day I end up with 2-4.

alpine gale
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Hi all my crafting station is 371/373 missing relic and prophet blueprint I rem they were in season pass now they gone from the track

verbal mica
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doing raid ( someone is also telling and teaching atleast 3 new players it sounds like ) get to the planes and gas phase someone calls out they doing one shot on ricochet. ok he drops they all shoot the one shotters boxes then purple phase no damage wipe. load again i just say dont shoot the yellow boxes and wait to wipe ric when / if someone calls it. . the host also said he doest know where he wants people to go a or b didnt say 2 b and 6 A just said HE ISNT SURE but another player is giving suggestions and saying options u have and the host says “ i literally dont know im doing watever “ and usually u just listen to the host cus its their raid after-all just fill rolls. so after i said what i said this dude goes “ notice how ( me ) telling people what to do but on the wrong side. bruh lol lol what? ( the host never said what we doing he said he doesn’t know then u gave SUGGESTIONS and never confirmed the olan etc ) also not telling ppl what to do im literally just giving info and tips that even i learned doing the raid that would help the person doing 1 shot. toxic . sorry for the rant lol just dont see how this makes sense

stable pawn
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Wall of text broke my Tier 6 Shield.

verbal mica
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lmao 😭 my b everyone fr .

stable pawn
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And it was overcharged

broken solstice
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Don't worry. I read it. Basically an incompetent raid leader getting mad that other group members were trying to help

verbal mica
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then i get on gen 1 lol he asks if im rav stacking ( bro press pause goto social and check my build ) but i answer i say no. he asks again i say nah. he asks again and say i guess thats a no ok anyway. then i say “ i just said no “ suddenly he can hear me lol and answers “ ok yea yea “

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xbox needs the reputation system back and the “ avoid player feature

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it was fire

verbal mica
timber hatch
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There's a certain level of experience where people know about certain strategies but don't properly understand them. Mix that with some over confidence and you get what I think your describing

verbal mica
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yeah has to be that . thats how he was talking and acting the whole raid almost like he better than everyone etc

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he knows EVERYTHING etc

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sorry for the rant everyone but yeah lol just those the tyoe of ppl i dont get like its just a video game we all here for a common goal .

idle coyote
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Anyone have tips for doing curseds bounty mission i keep getting mowed down before I can get to him

wicked rock
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Call for backup ...done

idle coyote
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I can’t I ran outta Xbox live

gaunt harbor
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lol what

idle coyote
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you can’t call backup without having Xbox live the member ship

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You can just play solo

broken solstice
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It's an easy bounty. Maybe use a different build

heavy prism
wicked rock
idle coyote
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I’m messing around with the gear sets

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since I’m using a lmg I used the true patriot so I have a 300 round mag

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and it feels like it doesn’t do much againts them

verbal mica
wicked rock
heavy prism
frozen meadow
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join pub group
Doesn't beat dark hours in 10 minutes
Leaves the group after cursing everyone out

heavy prism
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Not full 1 shot tbh

timber hatch
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you have any POV clips?

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who was your guys shooter?

celest isle
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what does it mean, when my bounty shows "Tidal Basin: Bounty" is it then actually in the mission?

rich shadow
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could be

frozen meadow
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You have to go to the bounty select menu

rough sleet
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open your map, select bounties, select the region with the yellow manhunt bounty icon, and it'll show you where to go.

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(still not sure why it's in a different region that the bounty is actually located)

frozen meadow
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Ye it's in tidal basin's mission area but it's not in the mission itself

frozen meadow
rough sleet
frozen meadow
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Problem is they already did Potomac event centre as a bounty location (last season?) So they likely didn't wanna rerun it

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Omg you know what would be funny

rough sleet
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no no, i don't mean that. just the selection itself is on wrong location to where the bounty is

frozen meadow
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A black tusk bounty in that one area with the pool

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By Potomac event centre right

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Except one of the black.tusks does jumping jacks and summons the hunters to kill you

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That would be absolutely hilarious

tawny garden
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haha i swear Division is trolling me
All i want from RE event is the Chamber Medic shirt
Im 19/21 in already and still dont have the shirt. Well i think its gonna be the last drop 😄

rough sleet
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bounty location is actually in west potomac park, but you have to select constitution hall to find the bounty....is what I meant....just odd....

frozen meadow
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Oh I see

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Yeah it's weird but eh

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It's so minor I wouldn't bother yknow

rough sleet
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yeah, ubi logic...just confused me first time I ran it like..."wait, it said tidal, why is it way up here?"

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i got excited for a hot second thinking, "woohoo, secret tunnel to tidal from way up north!?"

frozen meadow
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Did you genuinely think that

rough sleet
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it was a glimmer of hope shot down by the underlying facts that I knew it was just an error

frozen meadow
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Lol

rough sleet
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FUN DENIED!

frozen meadow
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I almost died a few days ago on hc to yannie

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I'm a dumbass for attempting that solo

rough sleet
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oh god, that'd be painful

frozen meadow
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I also almost died last night to a rogue agent in tidal challenging

rough sleet
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I still haven't done the hunter mission on my HC dude just cause I'm like....I'm scripted to get locked in place....don't feel like failing to that.

frozen meadow
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And again prior to that last night in heroic invaded manning

frozen meadow
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Free XP

frozen meadow
rough sleet
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if it makes you feel better I almost died to a convoy like a week ago cause I got distracted by the hyenas I ddin't notice a BT sniper dog walked up and one shot me to no armor. lol

frozen meadow
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Lol

rough sleet
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and yeah, I've felt the pain of a rogue oxidizer on my HC dude, never ran back inside a safe house so fast in my life.

frozen meadow
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Lol

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I was surrounded by rogues

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But I was able to kit

frozen meadow
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If I got shot while stunned it was over

rough sleet
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yeah, HC definitely adds that tension when things start getting rough.

frozen meadow
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Omg did I tell you about how I cheated death earlier this week

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I went down to a hunter in heroic countdown no hive cuz jammed

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Sat there stemming the bleeding for 3/4 of it's duration while the hunter camped my body

rough sleet
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o_O well THAT'S not good....

rough sleet
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finally had a mate take him out and pull you up I assume? thankfully

frozen meadow
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Yup

rough sleet
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close call for sure

frozen meadow
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I left the group afterwards lol

rough sleet
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haha, "Nope, used up all my luck, no thanks"

frozen meadow
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Nah they took way too long to kill off that hunter

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It was the first hunter encounter

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By turbine

rough sleet
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yeah, then good move, def wasn't gonna get any better then

celest isle
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Tidal Basin: Cursed .. cant find him via Bounty Menu

rough sleet
azure lintel
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Hi guys may be a dumb question but recently got div2 on pc is there anyway to transfer my Xbox account over or do I have to start fresh? Thanks in advance.

frozen meadow
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Have to start fresh

azure lintel
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Damn, okay thanks

tender wave
frozen meadow
rough sleet
frozen meadow
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Or vice versa

tender wave
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Well, if you camp one spot and shoot him from there it works, or it did for me - only tried it once so far

rough sleet
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yeah, still wanna get it off my map eventually.

frozen meadow
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Wanna tackle it Tuesday

rough sleet
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if timeframe works well then sure, why not....what's the worst that could happen right? attempt #3 at HC

frozen meadow
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Lol

rough sleet
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I was trying to go for a personal challenge/record on HC. hitting shd 1k without going over 100 armor kits (no healing skills used) and no time down....

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just for giggles, haha

jaunty elbow
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does anyone know where Carnage drops from? cant find anything online about it and have been target looting for it for days now and no luck

potent condor
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set target loot to lmg and do countdown

vivid panther
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a goddamn red assault just one shotted me

restive lotus
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Turrent ?

small spear
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no assault = basic enemy

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compared to thrower, chunga, etc.

smoky vigil
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When does s11 end?

late finch
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end of May

jaunty elbow
frozen meadow
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Probably lol

tawny garden
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is there a way to filter all those chinese players out of chat? :S

vital zenith
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a dude just got teh dz drop and left the dz through the checkpoint....like..without extracting the loot

tawny garden
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if live gives you chinese learn to speak mandarin?

plain trail
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waveform sucks anyways

tawny garden
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Ni-hao my brother

plain trail
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so you're not missing much

hexed moss
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Hi, quick question ,does ranger perk works well with shotguns ? never tried it

tawny garden
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The picaros holster is on sale @ rare merchant

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Not godrolled but good enough

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But for real now

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no way to filter out chinese players?

tender wave
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If you just mute the area chat channels that does the trick

restive lotus
hexed moss
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Ok thanks, i won't bother testing it then 🙂

restive lotus
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Depends on weapons

frozen meadow
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neither. flatline

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heartbreaker has no range

restive lotus
frozen meadow
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lol

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hunters fury perhaps

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lol

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you wanna run flatline with heartbreaker

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fast hands

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hands down

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chest i wouldnt suggest but backpack is fine

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its hard to keep up that many stacks

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ceska with obliterate

restive lotus
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Or perfect focus if you can get used to the scope

frozen meadow
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i dont suggest perfect focus because you lose a brand set bonus, and also it requires you to be constantly aiming down sight which is very impractical

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coming from someone who literally runs an 8x on everything

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that doesnt sound like a very good build tbh

restive lotus
frozen meadow
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so the lessened view is actually a huge problem lol

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i literally run 8x on everything. even my M870 has an 8x

restive lotus
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lol

frozen meadow
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im not lying i genuinely use it on all my primaries

restive lotus
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I Believe you
I will have to test it
Sounds fun lol

frozen meadow
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depends on how much you want to sacrifice for survivability

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i use both chest and backpack for hardcore

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just know youll lose damage in the process

restive lotus
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You can remove bp once comfortable with the build
Don't have to go all in

frozen meadow
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3b+3r for my heartbreaker

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but it doesnt do much damage

frozen meadow
restive lotus
frozen meadow
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lol

rough sleet
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just go all red \o/

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lol, it's what I do except one blue core cause I can't find a decent darn chest to drop....

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makes ya feel alive (until you're not) with how tense stuff can get....haha

native aspen
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hi guys, what is skill proficiency used for? i mean its not like we can upgrade skills right?

tawny garden
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Anyone know how i can soften those flickering/jagged shadows?

restive lotus
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+1%

native aspen
restive lotus
restive lotus
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Can't remember any other important ones

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Defender drone aswell

frozen meadow
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I have two builds atm

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One is 4r+2b striker the other is the hb I mentioned earlier

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Just started this character a week or so ago so not much going on

vague pecan
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decoy is good for expertise also

frozen meadow
potent condor
rough sleet
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🤔 lol

strange dawn
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hello

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we need 4 more people to raid

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just join raid channel 3

restive lotus
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Whoever solo'd legendary manning zoo with all red
What skills do you recommend ?
Shield and revive ?

tender wave
strange dawn
alpine edge
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is ubisoft store broken ?

cinder nacelle
strange dawn
native aspen
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not proficiency but expertise

rough sleet
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earn more proficiency levels

native aspen
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oh ok

cinder nacelle
tender wave
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have to be proficient in almost everything to reach expertise 20

cinder nacelle
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I see guys with +20% and it makes me so jealous. That's a crazy nice buff on each weapon plus skills and extra armour. I'm only +6% but I'm working on it.

rough sleet
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each expertise level requires a certain number of proficiency levels to reach the next, so earn proficiency levels on as many things as you can to up your expertise level. but a piece also has to be proficient (proficiency level 10) to be able to make use of those expertise levels and upgrade it.

tender wave
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the +20% is additive with other sources of weapon damage (or skill damage or whatever) so it's not quite as big a bonus as it seems - on a full red build you'll only get about an 8% actual increase from expertise 20

frozen meadow
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Still a lot

rough sleet
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it's a nice lil perk when you start a new toon and realize your drone/turret is already expertised up packs a bit of a punch

cinder nacelle
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Honestly I love the expertise system. Before I would make a loadout and get it perfect and that would be that. Now I'm always trying to try a new gun with it or remix it somehow to try something new.

I made a max DoT loadout that I'm having fun with at the moment: 4 x Ongoing Directive, Vile, Pestilence, all red except for some status. The vile gives the bleed some bite, the hollowpoint ammo makes the Pestilence hit pretty nicely. It's just fun multi-DoTing everything I hit and the damage is pretty strong. All just for expertise on a bunch of gear I wasn't using.

native aspen
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what is considered good weapon damage on core attributes? is it like 12% or is it higher?

cinder nacelle
autumn fox
nimble glen
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The division 3 in the future timeline with futuristic weapons

native aspen
tender wave
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In my mind post-apocalyptic worlds aren't generally suited to strong R&D, it takes a large population to support the extremely niche roles you need for technological advance. Also 'Tom Clancy' branded stuff tends to be quite reality-grounded for the most part.

crude night
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why is it so hard to matchmake with someone for strongholds

cinder nacelle
restive lotus
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Just completed legend zoo for first time
It was a pain 😭

fiery cloud
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Hey S3raph1te

restive lotus
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I have done 4 legendary strongholds
Any other legendary i am missiing ?

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I have done Zoo and dc strongholds

wheat zinc
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Tidal?

restive lotus
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Yes done

rough sleet
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zoo, capitol, dua, roosevelt, tidal....uhm....

wheat zinc
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There’s only 5

rough sleet
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that's what I thought, so he's just missing one of those

restive lotus
rough sleet
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district union arena

restive lotus
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Just relized i am Missing roosavalt
Since it wasn't in invaded missions this week
So forgot it even existed

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Roosavalt easier then tidal/zoo or harder ?

wheat zinc
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I’d say about Capitol difficulty. Depends on team though

restive lotus
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Alright thank you

tender wave
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think tidal and zoo are harder than the other three, although that might just be due to being less familiar with them

rough sleet
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haven't done tidal or zoo but I think easiest to hardest (for me) was dua, roosevelt, then capitol

lament mirage
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Tidal pretty ez people have speed run that one in less than 30 mins

deep blaze
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Doesn't say much since DUA and Capitol are sub 10m doable, not sure about Roosevelt but I don't think it's much more (if at all) than that either

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Solo perhaps in 10-15m range or so
So less than 30 kind of sounds really high then

lament mirage
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Ah

vale fossil
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Hey guys, is level cap still 40?

rough sleet
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yes

lean cosmos
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1 rouge agent i can hardly handle alone in teh summit. But 2 rouge agents no way

vale fossil
lean cosmos
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why on earth did they send in 2 against 1 player

rough sleet
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"challenge"

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it's always that way. group amount +1

lean cosmos
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well i had no chance in hell

rough sleet
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in due time young grasshopper, in due time....until they quarterback toss a damn turret right behind you from 4 blocks away

spare perch
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Happening folks

pastel stump
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Wait you guys are running in to rouges what that like lol I hardly get to encouter them

golden otter
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Hey guys,
Which location can I find "Hyena Bosses"? I'm after a certain resource.

pastel stump
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District union arena that mission has 3 bosses

golden otter
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where tf is that on the map lol

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I cant locate district union (sorry new to game)

pastel stump
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Oh I didn't know that pending how new you are district union is a stronghold you'll need to complete the other main missions first

golden otter
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darn

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any other way to get it?

cinder nacelle
lean cosmos
cinder nacelle
pastel stump
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@golden otter other main mission have named hyena bosses in them some of them atleast

pastel stump
golden otter
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thanks bud

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I'm also trying hyena bounties but only getting +1 resource

vale fossil
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can u upgrade item level from 39 to 40?

timber hatch
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Only exotics

tawny garden
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Thought about how to break up the dps meta
Imagine enemy archetypes that take increased damage by standing in an agent heals?
Or one that is super stronk but his life ticks down so your survivability would be key.

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i dont know if that would work out in the end but i would love to see more tactical variance

gusty haven
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An enemy that only takes damage from behind and while firing, ignores skill proxies

tawny garden
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Its so stupid that skillbuilds have build in tanks they can deploy

zinc shadow
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🤨

tawny garden
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calm down Dr.Doom

oblique cave
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boosted agents have to unlock all the spec points for gunner etc again??

runic tartan
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my friend can’t access countdown solo why’s that? like the fast travel or start option isn’t there

potent lava
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Bro every long time player in this game in pvp is a cheater.
I just watched the whole DTF clan and another clan have a hacker war one clan on one side of the building, and the other clan on the other side and they sat there and killed each other through the building for like an hour, as they literally talked to each other about cheats

fallen copper
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Did they nerf how much xp resource convoys give?

lime fulcrum
frozen meadow
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I hope they don't

old crane
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When wil the devs do stuff about all the hate speech in chats? this shit is disgusting

frozen meadow
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Why don't you have chats muted

old crane
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There isn't an excuse for this shit, the hate speech I see is bang out of order.

eternal tree
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I can’t lie. I need someone that can ease me into the game

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I’m back after like 2 years and I need a lotta help 🥲

foggy cape
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true division 2 moment is crashing at the end of roosevelt island when you have 5 seconds left of the mission

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like its okay to crash but at least let me complete the mission so I dont have to replay this shit

eternal tree
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Hi @foggy cape wanna help me :))

foggy cape
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dont think I can, is crossplay even a thing

lament mirage
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No

dusky siren
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Got 2 spots available for farming JTC need Coyotee mask

tawny garden
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Never played pvp in division besides at the start of div1

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What is the meta like? Everyone tanky?

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In Div1 i remember everyone running around in Nomad Sets

surreal orbit
azure lintel
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anyone want to do floor 100 on legendary?

iron mesa
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Has anyone had any luck in the DH Raid for EB?

azure lintel
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yeah

surreal orbit
lofty bone
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the rogue agent music gotta be one of the best things in this game

clever blade
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Well now I'm even more annoyed with Ubi servers lmao

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Doing challenging countdown, helicopter arrives, the game despawns myself and two others and puts us at the initial spawn, so we missed the extract.

frozen meadow
lofty bone
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jesus christ is there a way to disable to stupid flashbang effect

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got hit like four times with it

frozen meadow
lofty bone
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there has to be a better way instead of blinding me irl

frozen meadow
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Mate flashbangs in literally every game work that way

lofty bone
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are you dense

frozen meadow
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What

lofty bone
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i rather not have a bright ass white flash blind me in real life especially when the game is lit different

undone timber
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Mw2's solution to that made it worse for me

frozen meadow
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Or attempt moreso

undone timber
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Cuz I thought my thing turned off every time I got flashed

frozen meadow
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Did they just invert it lmao

undone timber
frozen meadow
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That's awful

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At least make it like a cyan

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Or a light grey

undone timber
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Yeah you'd think lmaoo

frozen meadow
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Yeah light grey works good

frozen meadow
undone timber
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Also who uses blinder fireflies

frozen meadow
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It's a fine cc

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Ngl lol

undone timber
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Honestly I'd rather just riot foam

frozen meadow
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They can shoot you while foamed

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Just blind them and foam them

undone timber
frozen meadow
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Yes lol

undone timber
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I don't think I've ever had one shoot me

frozen meadow
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Especially hunters

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Hunters just ignore foam sometimes

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Same with fire

undone timber
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You gotta get them in cover

frozen meadow
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No I mean they just stand still and fire at you

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And fire they just run to cover

undone timber
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Huh

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That's never happened for me

frozen meadow
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Happened to me like 30-50 times

lavish dove
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Have just unlocked S10 manhunt General Anderson from S11 L49 season pass

Yet I cannot fast travel even though the prompt appears on screen.
The world map dims for moment and then returns without travel initiated.

What am I doing wrong?
@dry trellis

frozen meadow
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Then again I've killed like 2000-3000 hunters total

undone timber
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The only way I deal with them on countdown is riot foam/scorpio

clever blade
lofty bone
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not even all that dark, the sun is still out

broken plume
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I really hate getting to the 1st boss of Manning National Zoo when it's invaded... cause once you're in the boss arena, you have a little bit of wiggle room when it comes to the mortar. But that first little section, you either gotta run around constantly getting staggered, get hit by a mortar (and lose all your armor if you're running all red cores like me), or just cower in the tunnel leading there and wait for them to funnel in.

lofty bone
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lmfao, the game keeps fucking with me, trying to do the stupid stars challenge, finished bounties, fast traveled, it switches to summit, go do summit, fast travel back to dc, then it switches back to bounties

frozen meadow
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Yawn

devout cobalt
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Is there any incentive to actually extract in a countdown?

clever blade
devout cobalt
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Thank you.

clever blade
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np homie

oblique pine
#

hey guys, been out of touch with the game for a while, is the floor 10 shenanigans finished?

winter radish
limpid pond
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Did anyone else get a Mailbox message and then nothing in it?

oblique pine
restive lotus
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You can see red highlight when mortor shoots
Gives you 1-2 secs to roll

broken plume
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That first section is nothing but open, except the tunnel. I just don't find it all that fun... the rest of the mission I'm fine with. Just that small little like 10 man arena

restive lotus
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Have a Shield , rev

broken plume
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Maybe it's just forever bugged for me then, cause even the tarp doesn't provide cover.

undone timber
#

It's that bad?

restive lotus
undone timber
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What's it look like

restive lotus
#

Purple ? Thats for the pants

undone timber
#

Only one I can think of is the sample vial one

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That or the dc62 canister

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Could always check their profile

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You can scroll over to their apparel menu and it'll show all the cosmetics they have on

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Oof

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Imo lava trophy from iron horse is my fave anyway

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Just cuz it glows in the dark

steel badger
#

Hey so I'm lol 15 and pretty new to the game I just got the dark zone recon mission? Is it hard to do?

undone timber
steel badger
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Ah okay

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Ah it was on my screen I got the mission a while ago

undone timber
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Idk what it is but recently my dzs have been completely dead

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Not that I get any loot worth extracting anyway

steel badger
#

Okay yeah I was asking about the recon

undone timber
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You ever just see that huge red light and the shd symbol and think yessssss

steel badger
#

Is it pvp?

undone timber
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Then you see it's some shit like a pestilence

undone timber
#

You'll be fighting AI as well as rogues

steel badger
#

Ah

undone timber
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The imperial dynasty looks so useless as well lmao

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I have like 3 waveforms in my stash and 10 backfires

broken plume
#

The DZ recon should only auto complete if it's your 2nd character or beyond, far as I'm aware, new players still get to play through all 3 missions for each DZ

frozen meadow
#

Hi

broken plume
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That's what I mean, I remember back when the game launched there was a whole walk through mission of the DZs, where you actually got a little bit of story and extracted a bit of loot. But they took that out for your 2nd playthrough and such... Idk why, I kinda wanna play through them again

frozen meadow
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I lost one of my first HC characters to the east recon

broken plume
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That's really disappointing, cause like I said there was some neat little story beats about each DZ... Couple Echos and audio logs

frozen meadow
#

Echos?

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No there aren't any echos afaik

broken plume
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I don't know, man. It's been 5 years

frozen meadow
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Yeah. And I remember after said 5 years that there is no echos

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Lol

broken plume
#

Either way... Still sucks they took out the missions all together

restive lotus
#

Yea done

undone timber
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I gave up on the hunters after seeing the new York ones

frozen meadow
#

I've done all of em

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Nope

restive lotus
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That i have no idea since i did it all at once

broken plume
#

Look up a guide, follow the guide, go to each eye spot

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If you can grab an eye then yay, if not then you already have it

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I really should get around to getting all the NY masks, but ehhhhhhhhhh, time consuming

undone timber
#

And if you die oh well back to the start for you

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If you're solo oh well 4 hunters for you lmao

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If it's not night time haha time to wait half an hour or more

frozen meadow
#

Depends on world

undone timber
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Hunter difficulty feels so inconsistent

frozen meadow
#

It's not

undone timber
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On Schaeffer and countdown they're tough as fuck

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In the open world they get wrecked

frozen meadow
#

They are actually two different hunters

undone timber
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Ah

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Tusk ones?

frozen meadow
#

Open world/summit is different

undone timber
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That'll explain it

frozen meadow
#

Burning a hunter counts towards league goals lol

undone timber
#

I'm tryna get ridgeways it's so annoying that they count as tusk

frozen meadow
#

It's because otherwise it'd be too easy

undone timber
#

Hunters on div 1 were scary cuz they hunt you and not the other way around lol

#

Those crash axe executions and god tier ai and all

frozen meadow
#

I think they are canonically different

undone timber
#

25?

frozen meadow
#

There's a lot

undone timber
#

I thought there were like 14

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I know you get one from Schaeffer and one from each open world hunter

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But where the hell are the rest

frozen meadow
#

There's that many open world hunters

undone timber
frozen meadow
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Lol

undone timber
#

I still want that divide mask

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Shit looks so cool

frozen meadow
#

Idk which one that is

undone timber
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It's half black half red

frozen meadow
#

I know hunters not by the mask name but the summoning technique

undone timber
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The one with the flags I think

frozen meadow
#

That's helpful lol

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I liked that onw

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And washing machine hunters

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Those are my favs

undone timber
#

I did the washing machine one right

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But one of them ran off the bastard

frozen meadow
#

Washing machine hunters is best

undone timber
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He straight up just dissapeared

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Killed his buddy too

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But he wasn't on threat indicator or anything

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I didn't even take that long it was like 15 seconds

frozen meadow
#

I think it's the most unique summoning technique

undone timber
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The only one I've enjoyed so far is the jumping jacks in the pool because I didn't have to go all the way round the map

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Nice challenge small area 2 hunters

frozen meadow
undone timber
frozen meadow
#

That one actually makes sense

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Washing machine interact black out

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Go to place where generator parts are common and get generator part

undone timber
#

That red light is like the only way anyone could ever possibly know it was a hunter riddle

frozen meadow
#

Then fix and get room key for upstaies

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Then you get the coordinates on the wall to go to next

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Then you go to coords and you see "dare you come closer" body which is charred

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Which obviously refers to the place that's on fire

undone timber
#

Makes sense

frozen meadow
#

I know that's why I love that hunter

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It's the most sensical

undone timber
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Because I missed one do I have to do the entire thing over

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Or just interact with the body at the school

frozen meadow
#

Also can do it any time of day

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Should I solo the food truck hunters on hardcore heroic

undone timber
frozen meadow
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Lol

undone timber
#

I'd be pissedddddd if they got me especially on hardcore

frozen meadow
#

I almost died to yannie a few days ago

undone timber
clever blade
#

It's easy

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just get a scorpio bro

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Real talk, scorpio and memento is a ridiculously not okay combo

undone timber
frozen meadow
clever blade
undone timber
undone timber
clever blade
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bro im 133 and im already solo'ing heroics 😢

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come hold my hand though fr

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don't make it weird

frozen meadow
#

My HC is 43 I did heroic manning invaded yesterday

undone timber
#

Heroic I can do but it's annoying if you die

frozen meadow
#

It's even more annoying on hardcore

clever blade
#

I'm waiting for one last piece for my build, then I'm going to work on solo legendarys

undone timber
#

Like if I want loot I'll go countdown other than that there's no reason to play heroic

clever blade
#

I just need a disgusting DMR

undone timber
#

Unless you wanna test your build

clever blade
#

or I might run a shotty

undone timber
#

Or any m1 carbine

clever blade
#

I was looking towards going and getting ravenous tbh, but i cba to go run IH

frozen meadow
#

I prefer M1A with rifleman

undone timber
frozen meadow
clever blade
#

lmao

undone timber
#

I have only one and I rarely use it

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Same with the eagle bearer

clever blade
#

right now I'm running a capacitor, turret, and crusader shield

undone timber
#

Regulus though

#

Can't wait to get my hands on those

frozen meadow
#

I got ravenous on my first run, first week

clever blade
#

That's gross

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and bs lol

frozen meadow
#

Lol

undone timber
clever blade
#

its alright though because on console, my first exotic cache yeeted a scorpio into my arms

frozen meadow
#

So it was either 5 or 6 days following the release of iron horse when I got it

undone timber
undone timber
frozen meadow
#

I got Scorpio from the rewards track because I'm not a noob

undone timber
#

Especially since raids were stupid difficult back then apparently

clever blade
frozen meadow
#

Huh?

frozen meadow
#

I'd argue raids are harder now lol

undone timber
clever blade
#

DH is free tbh

undone timber
#

I heard when dark hours was new there were 0 console completions

clever blade
#

IH is the only one that could be "hard" and that's if people dont do the mechanics

frozen meadow
#

Back in the pre-wony era, razorback drones did fuck all

clever blade
#

drones threw pillows at you

undone timber
undone timber
frozen meadow
#

Oh and second boss dh poison was actually like, concerning lol

#

Like if you didn't run vital you were done for

clever blade
#

eh idk, drones are still free

#

my buddy and I just double down on EMP pulses and pop them at the same time

undone timber
#

My group showed me the non faraday skip after my ftc and I gained so much appreciation for skilled raiders lol

frozen meadow
#

Remember old sawyers

clever blade
#

oh god yes

undone timber
#

Was it super good at one point

frozen meadow
#

Lol

frozen meadow
#

But literally nobody knew how to get it because it wasn't on the patch notes

clever blade
#

I want more hunter content ffs

frozen meadow
#

In due time

#

All I want is old aces back D:

#

Old aces was AWESOME

clever blade
#

Or at least make it so if you kill all the hunters in both NY and DC you get the hunter mask WITH AN ACTUAL VEIL

#

like ffs, we have a mask named veil and it's like someone tossed part of a fishing net on it and then only draped it a partial way

clever blade
frozen meadow
#

Old fox prayers was amazing

frozen meadow
undone timber
#

Bro I just want hunter masks with hoods/veils/boonie hats

frozen meadow
#

What else was there back in the day

undone timber
#

The AI hunters look so badass

frozen meadow
#

I can't remember what old pristine example was but that's what I ran

#

Oh yeah vigilance was a chest talent

undone timber
clever blade
frozen meadow
#

Yep

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I ran four pieces aces with fox prayer and Airaldi gloves with MMR damage

undone timber
frozen meadow
#

Naval you weren't around with old aces were u

undone timber
#

Dabbled in div 1 though

frozen meadow
#

Full house doubles everyone's mags for 5 seconds, four of a kind gave 100% bonus armour for 5 seconds, and aces and eights gave 5 double damage shots

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Old entrenched, which was fox prayer, had no cooldown or missing armour requirement

oblique pine
#

they changed full house?

frozen meadow
#

So you could spam headshots and stay alive

frozen meadow
#

It was

undone timber
#

I've never been an mmr guy but damn

frozen meadow
#

I was shredding

undone timber
#

Well they have hotshot and HG and all that now but idk how any of that is

#

How's sacrum imperium

frozen meadow
#

Shit

undone timber
#

Exotics these days are on a roll of being Garbo

#

Except the busy little bee but I never really use that

#

Doctor home is literally a super soaker

frozen meadow
#

Also old opportunistic was on motherly love

#

And old clutch omfg that was based

undone timber
#

Old division 2 sounds fun lol

frozen meadow
#

It was lol

verbal mica
oak prawn
#

I've heard talks about dlc coming in Y5

#

Is it true? A rumor?

knotty quail
#

Yep, new area + more story

oak prawn
#

Do we know what the area is?

knotty quail
#

None that I know of

oak prawn
#

Well on Tuesday we have auntie coming out then the main target and then by the end of May we should be in the new season

knotty quail
#

I think the new season was said to be in June iirc

oak prawn
#

I hear this season is suppose to end on the 23rd and go right into the new season

knotty quail
#

I dunno

oak prawn
#

But this new DLC will most likely drop in the fall or winter maybe late summer

#

3rd or 4th quarter of 2023

#

Year 5 season 4 is when we are getting thr new story apparently (I have not played or kept up to date on news recently so a few of you may know)

undone timber
#

Expansion or just story and map

ebon tendon
#

i just got a eb from the dz...

oak prawn
# undone timber Expansion or just story and map

well in Y5 S3 we are going baack to NY and if you notice the NY map is small(only 4 sections) so im gonna assume that they are gonna open up more of the map for us to explore the reason we are going back to NY is to find out more about keener and his rogues

undone timber
undone timber
oak prawn
#

Y5 S3/4 probs wont come out till end of year/early next year as most seasons are usually 3 months give or take

knotty quail
#

You're gonna cash out for it

oak prawn
#

how much you reckon

undone timber
#

Rip my wallet

oak prawn
#

meh

knotty quail
#

I'll wait for it to get cheap on Instant Gaming anyway

oak prawn
#

do you think there will be a level cap increase as well?

undone timber
undone timber
oak prawn
#

i hope they add new gear and guns in Y5

undone timber
#

They always do

#

Useful gear is another question

oak prawn
#

even if its not useful it can still be of use by donating it for expertise

oak prawn
#

Oh goody we will get a splinter cell outfit in Y5 but it will be locked behind the season pass and they will add all the good pieces at the end of the pass ig on day 1 we will see who has spent money cause white house will be full of Sam fishers 😂

verbal mica
#

playing with some random clan from a lfg post 7 of em and me. cant even get thru dark hours lol

oak prawn
#

Do you all have all red builds?

#

Which boss you on?

undone timber
autumn fox
#

question, after shd 1000, do all points automatically go into that bottom category? (i forget the name) , where you can choose 50 steel, poly, titanium, etc

ripe yacht
#

yes

copper bramble
#

which one to roll on the SMG, DtA or switch the killer talent to preservation?

tall barn
#

did you buy the game first?

undone timber
copper bramble
#

if it's CHD, it'll only add up to the current percentage total no?

undone timber
#

They're amps

#

They stack with all damage you would've done normally

copper bramble
#

seems like CHD has higher burst

undone timber
#

If you have contractors/foxes you could probably use those

copper bramble
#

sadly, not in my current build since it's already set

#

although i'll take that into consideration

gusty haven
#

I got my first exotic finally. Pestilence is kinda fun

#

Well... mainly because I finally got a striker set kinda going before I got a skill damage set going so I can finally like... shoot stuff in hard and above without feeling like garbage

knotty quail
undone timber
gusty haven
#

I've been 'kinda' using a build with it

knotty quail
#

Try Bluescreen instead

gusty haven
#

Running Grudge to easily run with permacrit

knotty quail
#

It's one of the better LMGs

balmy orbit
gusty haven
#

So I can tap, swap and spray again

undone timber
gusty haven
#

Easy status without having to dip into skills/grenades/shootable hazards

knotty quail
#

That, Striker, HB all work

undone timber
#

Blue screen is a nice gun haven't really had a chance to make a build

balmy orbit
#

striker is just a beauty

undone timber
#

Probably gonna try negos at some point

knotty quail
#

It's a solid gun so it's gonna get the job done on any dps build

balmy orbit
#

startin to love my mr build with hotshot

elfin hazel
#

surpised nobody has mentioned that 17.3 has shown up on the trello as may 9th

#

only 2 patches rn which is a bit surprising but not unheard of

copper bramble
stoic bane
verbal mica
#

1.5 hours on dark hours…….got to razorback just couldn’t come together or stop talking over eachother. i left lol

undone timber
#

Y'all need a better leader 😭

verbal mica
#

nah its the group. the guy leading the raid had alot of patience and even teaching ppl things to do. they just couldnt stop talking about nonsense or talking at once or talking about my name ( blaqboy ) it was an entire episode lol

undone timber
#

Ah I see

#

Id pay to see them on iron horse lmao

verbal mica
#

😭😭 imagine. but then these the type ppl who make a post for “ eb run looking for eagle “ and do one raid open the box and get off lmao bruh WHAT?

undone timber
#

I mean in fairness the drop rates get much lower after the first run

#

And no more keys

#

Butttt if they really want one then it drops from bosses too I think

#

I think Gcrock got one from razorback iirc

elfin hazel
#

I'm pretty sure they dont get lower

#

10% for box & 1% from bosses

undone timber
#

I thought the box drop rate went down to like 3%

#

After first run

elfin hazel
#

never heard of this

undone timber
#

Maybe just the fact the keys don't drop again

copper bramble
#

between obliterate & intimidate, obliterate's the easier one to keep up yeah?

undone timber
left chasm
#

can i get the lady death from targeted loot ?

left chasm
#

but it says u can only drop it in new york

balmy orbit
#

gotten mine in countdown but i never target it

undone timber
#

It'll drop anywhere once you complete wony

left chasm
#

oh ok ty

verbal mica
#

lol xbox leaderboards for iron horse completions. someone has 10,000

undone timber
#

How in the hell

verbal mica
#

lol go check. and people have a 6 minute clear time fir dark hours

#

10,000 clears is wild

#

10,000 keys

undone timber
#

10 minutes I can see happening

#

But 6 goddamn

verbal mica
#

TOS clan

#

my fastest time is 15 minutes and some change and i got carried by the person who has the most clears on the raid greysixft something. i just did ads and listened what to do

#

but it was 15 mins

undone timber
verbal mica
#

clan TOS has both records for time on each raid 6min dark hours and 15 for iron horse

undone timber
#

I have no idea how people do these things

verbal mica
#

10,000 is CRAZY

#

i have about 6

undone timber
#

If they were all 30 minute runs

verbal mica
#

got rav and rug within 3

undone timber
#

That's like what 300,000 minutes

#

Divide that by 60 it's like 500 hours

#

Just on iron horse

verbal mica
#

its gotta be on youtube i wanna see hows this possible 6 minutes is crazy

#

everyone would have to have the newer xbox to even load fast

undone timber
#

I imagine they abuse tf out of fast travel to checkpoints

verbal mica
undone timber
#

I'm sat on 30/40 I've only done one fresh clear as of yet

verbal mica
#

same for eb . i got it on 3rd raid and back then i had no idea what i was doing

undone timber
#

I was lucky enough to go 2 for 2 with my group

#

Just missing the regulus which also happens to look like the most fun to use

verbal mica
#

it does and i made the build but my aim is poo poo so maybe better on pc fr

undone timber
#

The headshot build potential with that looks wild

verbal mica
#

reg and dodge city holster 🔥

#

Sending someone off the map

undone timber
undone timber
verbal mica
#

fun when it works but when u miss u look goofy

#

i just found out u gotta put achicilis pulse on 🤡

#

i was tryna one tap without it

undone timber
#

That way you don't have to hit headshots lol

verbal mica
#

another build was the rav. to one tap weakpoints on razorback jus need a d50

#

5 left one right 🤡 but my left stick is cooked from sprinting so much in this and cod so its not always 100%

undone timber
#

I heard about that one but I've no idea how it works

verbal mica
#

another thing off topic but might help someone cus i just found out too and i went from lvl like 3 on to over 2600+ u know how u inspect a player and its 3 numbers. one is shd one is dz and then the last one ? yeah press start goto progression and then over to commendations . u have ti claim them all i had like years worth built up and no clue. unlocked alot of stuff

verbal mica
undone timber
#

Isn't left defensive primers

verbal mica
heavy prism
#

6min can be legit depending on the time wr is 6:56 but imho heli skipping is not that legit

#

still slow tbh

verbal mica
#

😳 so it can be done faster?

timber hatch
#

If you just want to farm clears you can just get a final boss checkpoint and just do that over and over

heavy prism
#

1m 39 , 19.5, 40, 1m 31, 40, 1m 55, 5 = 6m 49

#

slow tbh

#

final checkpoint + razorback skip is how ppl farmed massive clears

#

also didnt consider heli + drag

#

u can push sub 135 boomer kill

#

or masochist enough do super super drag

verbal mica
#

oh ok i have no clue about any of this i thought they legit were loading up a raid and just clearing it in 6 mins by playing

heavy prism
#

its coordinated speedrun

verbal mica
#

so is the 10,000 clears legit?

heavy prism
#

not really

#

its glitching for the most part

#

that or checkpoint farming

verbal mica
#

and its literally only one player. that would mean atkeast the top 8 are same as em but it isnt its just one player with 10,000

heavy prism
#

razorback skipped tbh

verbal mica
#

REPORTED

timber merlin
#

Any one know where I can get coyote mask

tender wave
#

Same place as 90% of loot: just farm target loot masks with directives

amber scroll
#

did a countdown on heroic using a skill build, got kicked within 10 seconds because I wasn't a gun build using a shield and every other memeber was I was like damn 😂

gilded perch
verbal mica
# timber merlin In summit?

countdown or jefferson trade center mission. but countdown u can open the exotic caches every 2 completions and cross ur fingers

#

i would personally do caches on countdown

timber merlin
verbal mica
#

but its your game do what u enjoy

#

u can matchmake

#

it will find all players

timber merlin
#

Oh NICE

verbal mica
#

set target loot to masks if you want also

timber merlin
#

thank you blanco

verbal mica
#

np good luuuck

timber merlin
sturdy cape
#

mouse over it and look at the options at the bottom of the screen @timber merlin

timber merlin
#

Mouse over what? @sturdy cape

sturdy cape
#

countdown, top right of the map

timber merlin
#

Im fairly new, I do not see it @sturdy cape

amber scroll
# gilded perch Are you using drone turret build?

Nope Turret and Hive build, and when I rejoined a new lobby they complained about it but my hive was keeping the whole team up so, when they complained I stopped healing them and just watched the chaos unfold 😂

timber merlin
#

I see countdown in matchmaking but no options to select target loot @sturdy cape

gilded perch
deep blaze
# amber scroll Nope Turret and Hive build, and when I rejoined a new lobby they complained abou...

Issue is game does kind of a poor job at explaining it so people have to learn it the hard way (like you are basically, at mercy of people just kicking you without a word), but hunters at extraction can hack your deployed skills so unless you place a hive out of LoS, they can hack it for example and use it against your team
A T6 skill build player with say turret drone getting hacked can literally wipe the entire team at the arguably far hardest place of the run, most people won't even notice hostile skills to kill them so they'll just die

And something like a turret/drone is by default kind of a no-go as it by definition has to have LoS to even do damage (otherwise it's not useful at all), but then it can get hacked

This is just next to that people might consider it "suboptimal" or "slowing you down" which is another issue and more subjective

amber scroll
#

Tho won't lie annoying thing is been getting so many exotics lately, but still no memento :/

deep blaze
#

Yeah but that's still potential failure points and slowing your team down which a lot of people don't want to bother with

gilded perch
golden otter
#

Hi all. I'm really struggling to find more resource of "Hyenas Tactical Assesment" so I can optimise my masks and smgs. Is there a known place i can get this?>

amber scroll
#

Not a crit building kind of guy so my damage is off my skills, but I need mem so my weapon can do some form of damage haha

deep blaze
#

People just want to join it and run through it quickly and smoothly without dealing with extra obstacles put up by their own team members, seeing how it's heroic (in challenging imo you can do almost anything honestly)

It's already hell with how many bugs and crashes there are with CD, some people might not be able to run even once on a day and they just don't want to deal with it

If you want to keep doing that it's fine but then you have to make your own group so you can set your own rules (but also don't be surprised if people leave)

amber scroll
amber scroll
timber hatch
#

Well your teammates care lol

gilded perch
amber scroll
gilded perch
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people kick u, because u trolling them, make sense

amber scroll
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Btw is there skill damage mods for your chest and backpack? I haven't seen one in forever

timber merlin
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Anyone know how to set item peices for countdown? I can’t seem to find it

deep blaze
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There's a fine line between people being elitist and dickish for no reason and also just wanting people to pull their own weight and ideally not set arbitrary obstacles in a somewhat hard gamemode (hard as in, it can still easily fail often unless people have at least decent builds and focus), in an environment where some of the hardest enemies are whether you can even get a run started without it bugging out, or whether you get DC'd before it ends

As I said, if you don't agree with their notion, host your own groups and set your own rules that way, but I think it helps to have some self reflection and try to understand why they're doing that
(but I also understand there's often a herd mentality where they don't accept anything out of the box and are dickish about it like a "not my issue", still for random people playing with other random people it's just easier to control things that way and guarantee success more than just taking a gamble)

amber scroll
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As I said is there skill damage mods tho for vest and backpack?

amber scroll
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that's how you change the selected loot

timber merlin
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I use a controller on my pc @amber scroll

amber scroll
deep blaze
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Also if you for some reason don't see the CD icon (on some characters it sometimes seems to disappear, so you can only queue for it in Matchmaking tab of map), you can also set the target loot of summit further on top right of the map, as they have the same target loot between CD/Anderson/Summit

amber scroll
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I use keyboard and mouse never controller feels too weird

grim charm
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there are no generic skill damage mods, only haste, duration, repair

timber merlin
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@amber scroll problem is I only see countdown in matchmaker

deep blaze
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Yea no gear mods like that (and they go for mask/chest/BP and improvised pieces)

deep blaze
amber scroll
amber scroll
deep blaze
grim charm
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They never existed, but you can get skill damage mods for specific skills, as skill mods

amber scroll
deep blaze
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Also you can worst case set your target loot inside a CD run by opening the map there btw (this way you can also change target loot in middle of the run at any time if you want to, same goes for Summit)

timber merlin
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Love this community

amber scroll
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I can tell mechanics are so much different from over the years, 2020 a guys video turret has 3m damage, mine while changing out parts and things says it has 80 but does 200k damage lol

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I am enjoying that Ninja bike, i do feel like that's gonna make some crazy builds in the future

timber merlin
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Guess I’ll just do summit it taking forever to queue up for a CD

amber scroll
sturdy cape
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@timber merlin what difficulty are you trying to matchmake for? challenging is the most popular, should be quick to find a group of that

timber merlin
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hard

sturdy cape
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very few players in norm or hard i think

grim charm
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Could try on challenging, don't think anyone queues up for Hard tbh

amber scroll
timber merlin
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Im new lol

amber scroll
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I do challenging a lot but I prefer heroic, makes it faster to get them exotic caches atm trying to save up 20 of those damn things and open all at once

grim charm
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As long as you have a somewhat functioning (non-skill) build challenging should be alright

amber scroll
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(use a skill build like me) 😂

timber merlin
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I get kicked everytime I matchmake for cd on challenging probably because I’m too low of a level

amber scroll
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I rarely see any skill builds, all I see is the meta gunb uild with the shield, or the normal marksmen users which I dont fuck with them lol

grim charm
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Weird, I'm still new myself and never had that happen once

amber scroll
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I use the capacitor for my build and actually had the leader whisper me said he kicked me since I use that gun, meaning i'm not a meta build I'm like wtf?

sturdy cape
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they usually have a reason, even if you don't think it's valid

amber scroll
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I went from loving the ninja bag to hating it because it just messed up my build haha

timber merlin
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Should I dismantle my guns or sell them

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And armor

amber scroll
sturdy cape
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mark as junk, go to the table that has the expertise station, donate junk to that to help level up some proficiencies, scrap whatever is left. credits aren't that useful imo

alpine edge
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is there online app where i can view the map for targeted loot

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like a map

verbal mica
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is there a purpose for discovery raids ? ( not including if u with ur clan or group and just trying things or practicing for certain things maybe one shot etc ) but i mean to make a lfg post and do discovery with randoms?

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why do it for free when you can get a key and etc

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i ran into a group who wanted to do discovery to show maybe 2 ppl what to do and didnt wanna “ waste “ keys to start the raid. apparently it costs him keys to start the raid. but u could just tell then during raid. why go thru all that and do it just to have to do it again “ for real “

vale fossil
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Can you still finish side operations in WONY after you finish the main story?

full flax
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Dispo ps4 french

silent nymph
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Wish i could get the havan shirt with textiles here before they changed the ways to get them now

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And now i have to get credits to get it now

verbal mica
elfin hazel
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no discovery is free

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but pretty pointless due to the change in objectives

tender wave
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Normal is free too, doesn't cost any keys to try

silent nymph
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Yeah but requires some skill to do the raid on normal

deep blaze
tender wave
deep blaze
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Hmm that'd explain a lot

verbal mica
frozen meadow
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hi

frosty laurel
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gibt es hier deutsche spieler

rain hedge
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what’s up with the hunters having everything fox related

crimson ember
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discovery is pretty funny because I've gotten some decent loot before

zinc shadow
rain hedge
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to me it more like a fox

tender wave
frozen meadow
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foxes are literally amazing

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also foxes match their personality and backstory

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im really lovingf this mop for my hc char

elfin hazel
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fox head makes a cool icon

rain hedge
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true, really like how in the summit it’s a paw instead of them doing a generic slash

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i think the reason i began to think it looks like a fox’s head was because of the fox’s prayer item

surreal orbit
sturdy cape
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why do you think discovery mode exists if not to teach, practice and/or game-plan?

heavy prism
molten spire
undone timber
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I couldn't get shit done on iron horse discovery

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But if you want to run it with a premade team then why not just normal raid lol

gusty haven
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How are raids in this game btw?

On a scale of it's baby mode, it's like a story mission to it's like an MMO high end raid where does it lie on the mechanics scale

surreal orbit
hybrid ore
gusty haven
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FFXIV, Destiny, WoW, handful of others

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Like am I looking at a savage raid or more like a destiny raid?

hybrid ore
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Perfect.
Div2 Raids are similar-ish to Destiny 2 ones. Although about the length of a slightly longer Scourge of the Past.

gusty haven
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And combat difficulty scales with difficulty in raids as well?

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Or are they fixed to normal or something

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So a Challenging raid with modifiers exists and you probably shouldn't hop into one blindly kinda deal

hybrid ore
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Raids are somewhere between Challenging and Heroic difficulty.
Definitely start off with Dark Hours. Go to #td2-build-advice > 📌 > spreadsheet > builds and make the Standard Red DPS setup.

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Dark Hours your first clear will take closer to 30-45 if the leader knows what they're doing.
you can go a lot faster than that once you have the mechanics down.

gusty haven
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And weekly lockouts and such

devout cobalt
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Mechanically, is it closer to RoN or Last Wish?

finite sparrow
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For some reason i cant seem to get any white death from countdown, i get every other name marksman except it

hybrid ore
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Never got to try Rise' before I left, but Iron Horse is a lot closer to Last Wish than Dark Hours is.

hybrid ore
devout cobalt
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There are directives in countdown? Gonna look into that

hybrid ore
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Oh Countdown, yeah none in there.
Summit has Directives.

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Countdown is all about volume, Summit is about Quality.

devout cobalt
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Got it

gusty haven
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One quiiick question real quick.

Is it more valuable to have the main stat/sub stats or a set bonus for a dps build?

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Like If I'm running strikers, and I have like 9%, but I could run this random High end with 15% and lose full strikers

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Is that a loss?

hybrid ore
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Are you referring to crit?

gusty haven
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Nah that's main stat damage increase

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Raw damage increase vs. Set bonuses

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What should I chase more?

undone timber
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Nah getting god rolled strikers isn't that hard

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Couple countdown runs and you'll be swimming in good gear

hybrid ore
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I am totally lost with what you're saying here.

gusty haven
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Most of my strikers I got from normal difficulty so I have them around 9% main stat weapon damage up.

I could swap off of it and just use high end gear with naturally higher rolls from playing on challenging which have rolls around 12-15%

hybrid ore
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Ooh the attribute stats.
Weapon Damage is the least important attribute.

gusty haven
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Is that more worthwhile to max red stat or do set bonuses trump weapon damage stat?

undone timber
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Having a good weapon damage stat is definitely nice but it's not worth giving up the gear set bonuses

gusty haven
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Like do set bonuses calculate diffrently than the raw increase?

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(In the case of strikers)

hybrid ore
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It's important to note that "red stats" is not a blanket term here.
You need to work on your overall total amount.
again: ignore weapon damage. It's not that important.

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What is your current striker build?

gusty haven
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Hold on a few moments while I transfer a screenshot

hybrid ore
gusty haven
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I'll paste it somewhere relevant and ping

azure lintel
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I thought I was crazy for not having agent edwards but it turns out boosting your character completes all the side missions

hybrid ore
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Well you won't have him either way, spoilers.

undone timber
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First time I did that one I was extremely confused as to what the hell just destroyed me then left

azure lintel
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I spent like 10 minutes looking online for an answer to my problem, checked side missions and it said 100%

azure lintel
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bit of a shame I couldnt go through it again but whateva

hybrid ore
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You easily can, by running a 1-30 char.

undone timber
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I always found it odd you couldn't find AI agents in the open world

azure lintel
hybrid ore
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@undone timber You actually can. 2 separate types.
the first are what we like to call "the stalkers", they just watch you on rooftops and don't do anything but run away.

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the 2nd require puzzles to spawn and give masks+keys.

azure lintel
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haha

undone timber
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Oops I meant 2nd wave

azure lintel
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Do we even know who the hunters are yet

undone timber
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Always felt like shd was a one man army during the story lol