#td2-general-chat

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hollow vigil
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thank you my man i hope this fixes it for now at least

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does this help

surreal orbit
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Currently only in normal dark hours raid

mellow acorn
mellow acorn
coarse summit
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what brand is the easiest way to get 10% skill haste library

tender wave
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any yellow-core brand will be more likely to have yellow subattributes

hollow vigil
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elfin nest
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could anyone help me skip world tiers?

surreal orbit
smoky meteor
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Ya know, I'm fucking done trying to play Countdown. Another day of getting repeat kicked from Countdown in the lobby. My gear is completely changed to be "good" according to everyone but I literally can't get into them because I'm low SHD level.

surreal orbit
plush blaze
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Is there a way to set normalized damage for target range?

tulip oasis
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Why is it that when I beat all the lieutenants for the general Anderson manhunt why does it say I only completed 50% of it?

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deep mica
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guys, does friends list works in ur game?

tulip oasis
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wise void
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is riggers set bugged?

plush otter
surreal orbit
wise void
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the riggers buff icon is the same as the kinetic movement one or?

surreal orbit
wise void
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i guess it is

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cause i was worried its bugged

elfin nest
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is it a dumb idea to boost my character even tho i played to world tier 5 on xbox

jagged prism
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you mean skip DC and head straight to WONY content?

trail rapids
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you will miss out

surreal orbit
elfin nest
elfin nest
jagged prism
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don't think Slaieth read your whole message that you did wt 5 xbox, so you should be good. just know you get set up with random gear that makes no sense build wise

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like 6 blue core, CTAR and some other random unused weapons in your inventory

elfin nest
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alright

trail rapids
elfin nest
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but i know i still gotta grind for certain quest stuff like exotics

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which im hoping i dont get blocked by the boost

jagged prism
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Also backpack will probably have safeguard on it forget the chest but yet it's not great but it'll get you through most of NY solo i think?

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oh yeah, you can't go back to DC until you finish WONY which is level 40 and a very specific mission

surreal orbit
jagged prism
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FYI: another option for you if you have the boost available. you can create new character go through the tutorial and get to the white house. forget if you talk to quarter master or just goto store and hit the boost and you'll be level 30 instantly and WT5 with again random gear on

elfin nest
jagged prism
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not sure if that also blocks trophies as Buddha said for that platinum thing shrugs

surreal orbit
elfin nest
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and im not going thru the hell of world tier 1-5

jagged prism
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that was hell wasn't it?

elfin nest
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shittiest thing in the world

astral jacinth
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Dammit, I think my limit is trying to solo carry 3 players for Heroic Anderson manhunt div2surrender

broken solstice
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oof

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you need another high level team mate for that

viscid star
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Hey new player here I have a few questions

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  1. Are there any activities that have a degree of randomization/random level generation kind of like underground from division 1?
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  1. Are there dungeons like in the 1st one I cant remember what they were called but 4 players in a group between solo and raid content?
astral jacinth
astral jacinth
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8 players

viscid star
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Cool

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thanks

astral jacinth
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And welcome! Take your time with the game and enjoy

night crest
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Hey any up for manning zoo on heroic need two more agents

low flame
wooden ferry
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Are they still doing closed testing for heartlands?

jagged prism
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@viscid star late to the questions, nothing like Underground, Resistence or Incursions in div 2.

viscid star
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I remember in Division 1 they had daily group missions was wondering about that to?

jagged prism
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Div 2 has projects you can complete which are like daily mission also weekly ones

vocal fulcrum
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do they have like a live chat support for this game?

midnight lava
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@vocal fulcrum whats your issue?

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But no I dont think so.

vocal fulcrum
still root
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is there still a lot of people playing this? or is it kinda ded?

midnight lava
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@vocal fulcrum Oof thats outa my depth, sorry.

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@still root They just released it on steam so there's an influx of players.

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But there's likely not going to be any additional expansions with Division heartlands coming out.

vocal fulcrum
low flame
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Heartlands from what we know is nothin like div2

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That is a pvp game

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This is a looter shooter pve game

frigid edge
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how do people be using keyboard and mouse on console?

jagged prism
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think i heard Heartlands was Battle Royale style?

low flame
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People predict it will be like survival which was kind of battle royale before it was a thing

wooden ferry
tardy orbit
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does anyoen know if both division one and two are dead cause i really want to play div one but with people

low flame
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Both games have a solid player base

jagged prism
vocal fulcrum
low flame
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Div1 will be most active during global events

tardy orbit
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so there both not dead

jagged prism
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only thing if you try to matchmake for story missions you might not get many joining you

surreal orbit
tardy orbit
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well im glad to hear i want to bring back the memorys its such a good game hope u all have a good new year👍🏻

still root
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so if I want pvp should I just be waiting for the new division then? lol

wooden ferry
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Should still be people in the dark zone

jagged prism
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think there's still PVP in div 2 but it's not as great as Div 1 since it's 3 very small areas

wooden ferry
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Returning to the game since like a solid year

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Any good ways to catch up?

jagged prism
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probably depends when you last played i'd guess?

wooden ferry
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Around after summit dropped i guess

jagged prism
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ah, probably not much catch up then i'm going to guess

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you have 2 weeks to do most of the manhunt so you can unlock the past manhunts

wooden ferry
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Is that a short time?

jagged prism
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can be maybe. no clue shrugs

wooden ferry
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Whats the current meta

surreal orbit
fiery cloud
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for what

wooden ferry
fiery cloud
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sorry dont know

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ars no problem

low flame
wooden ferry
low flame
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Vector has the highest burst dps
Mpx has good optimal range
Banshee is also good

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Those are the three top smgs

jagged prism
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speaking of vector i got a friend who has 4 pc striker with vector rolled into ROF as much as possible and i was like think about 3 pc umbra and 2 pc strikers with ninja bag and your rpm will break the server. he's prediciting 2400 rpm

plush otter
uneven ember
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I've had the artillery turret turrent for 1 hour and It's killed me 3 times

plush otter
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at full umbra+striker+thirdstat its a 1.50 multiplier, meaning a 1200 vector goes to 1800, impressive for the sound it will make, but not really of use

jagged prism
plush otter
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with chest its 100x 0.3 for 30% increase, that 1.50 is for all of the stats combined already, striker 1.15 + thirdstat 1.05 + umbra 1.30 = 1.50

jagged prism
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ah ok, was thinking the 1.50 would've been if the chest didn't increase the chd and rof from 50

azure lintel
plush otter
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if we are theory crafting highest rpm frenzy already would get higher, the point is more that a 100% bonus it not as easy as claimed there+ would do less dmg aswell as you are diminishing the dmg from ROF with each source you add

jagged prism
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i'm waiting for him to build it be like every 5 minutes "hey guys i need to replenish my ammo"

quasi egret
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How do I assign my skills(?) to both hotkeys (I have the turret and the scanner) but only one is equipped and I want to equip the other please?

jagged prism
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do you have both skill slots unlocked?
believe you had to get to a particular level

quasi egret
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Yes I have pulse and turret

jagged prism
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but does your second skill slot have a padlock?
if you highlight it you'll see unlocks at x level

quasi egret
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Im not sure where to see that?

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I just unlocked pulse AND turret? one is mapped to Q the other to E

jagged prism
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if you got the 2 skills mapped what are you asking exactly?

quasi egret
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Only one is mapped

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I want to map the other

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And I dont know how

jagged prism
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but what i see here "I just unlocked pulse AND turret? one is mapped to Q the other to E" it seems you have it mapped already?

quasi egret
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No by default

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BUt when selecting my second skill I chose to map it to Q which the first one was already mapped to

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Meaning the second one which SHOULDVE mapped to E but I chose to override and map to Q .. meaning nothing is mapped to E

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Meaning of my TWO skills only ONE is mapped. I want to map my SECOND skill

jagged prism
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you map it like you did the one on Q but you go to E instead

quasi egret
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Lets pretend they were both mapped but I wanted to switch them around then, maybe that makes more sense

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But how do I go about that?

jagged prism
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just like you did map it, say you want pulse on Q intead of E then goto put Pulse On Q if it was on E you'll see the 2 skills swap

quasi egret
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Sorry how do i... "go to put pulse on Q"

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Ill figures it out I guess. Is it just keybind

jagged prism
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hit "I" go to the bottom of the screen where you'll see your 2 skills in Q and E

quasi egret
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Ah yes I ONLY see one skill there

jagged prism
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click on either Q or E that you want to change then it'll open your window to show what skills you have then you just select your skill and it'll put it in. if you have the other skill in E, you'll see that they'll change locations

quasi egret
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But there is no padlock. So I need to map my other one there as I suspected. Bc I overrode it

jagged prism
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yeah, just goto the E skill there and put whatever skill you want in there

quasi egret
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I got it! Thank you @jagged prism

jagged prism
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you're welcome sorry. i read your question and was curious if you were even high enough level to have second skill unlocked

quasi egret
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Let me ask you this, I have both equipped but when I use my turret i CANNOT use my scanner... wtf

meager inlet
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any fix for crash/freeze on the 2nd mission in the ny dlc on james dragov

jagged prism
quasi egret
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Seems to be indefinitely which is odd, I used it a TON before unlocking the turret

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Now its like useless

jagged prism
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no clue there are a lot of things that could cause it

quasi egret
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My friend too. We both were using our starting skills a ton and now since getting our second skills our first ones dont work..

jagged prism
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so it's completely greyed out?

quasi egret
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DOesnt appear to be... both skills are equipped

jagged prism
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the methods that can cause you not to be able to use skills are

  1. If you're max level 40 there is a directive in game that when you use 1 skill the second skill will go on cool down
  2. you got disrupted by something (hunter, EMP grenade, or EMP bullets from Black/White tusk with special bullets directive)
quasi egret
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I believe everything youre saying but we are level 4 players and we were using our base skills for the first hour! And now suddenly they just don't work

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Ugh. Hopefully it works itself out 🙂

frozen meadow
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Have you tried restarting the game

quasi egret
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Oh no I havent, so maybe its a bug? Its happening to both of us so we didnt even think of that

tardy orbit
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can someone help me go through tidal basin stronghold and keep doing it, please?

frozen shell
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do I buy the base game or the ultimate edition

tardy orbit
frozen shell
jagged prism
frozen shell
tardy orbit
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YEAH if u want the full experiance and not miss any storys or anything like that go for the new york edition

jagged prism
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if you're buying it on steam sale it'll be the $24 version or was it $18?

frozen shell
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the ultimate edition is 24 and the new york edition is 18

tardy orbit
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i got a really cool skins and cosmetics just from playing

frozen shell
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ahh ok

tardy orbit
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without getting the ultimate edition

jagged prism
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oh forgot the ultimate gives you missions that are in random places in DC that once you've done them one on story mode you can fast travel to them

stiff raft
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at 1 point if i remember you were able to use the digital scope on your AR along with the shield and it wouldn't make you zoom in did that get changed or am i mistaken

tardy orbit
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ok well guess its worth it then if u want more to the story

nocturne beacon
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Ive just been robbed

tardy orbit
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how?

nocturne beacon
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Virtually

plush otter
tardy orbit
nocturne beacon
tardy orbit
nocturne beacon
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Scamming Ubisoft

tardy orbit
stiff raft
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whats the best way to get faction material

tardy orbit
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was it a new game or a cosmetic/extionsion to a game

nocturne beacon
tardy orbit
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restart game?

nocturne beacon
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trying now

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Naaahhh they’ve fr robbed me

tardy orbit
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if not get a refund and buy again

nocturne beacon
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I just wanted the battle pass man😭

tardy orbit
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probs something to do with playstation side

quasi egret
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Would anyone know why when I press M to bring up my map. The only "Main Mission" I see is a mission I've already done. It reads "Theater Settlement Mission - Replay" so replay is literally in the title?

nocturne beacon
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It’s my fault 😩

tardy orbit
nocturne beacon
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I shouldn’t be wanting battle passes😭

tardy orbit
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or bountys, so maybe u ticked one of thoes

quasi egret
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Bounties "no assest found" additional data required

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My map is set to "all"

tardy orbit
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and your problem being u can only see one single mission and all other missions r just not there?

quasi egret
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Oof now I see another, Im sorry. This is just overwhelming

tardy orbit
jagged prism
stiff raft
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rip

jagged prism
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for instance if you're past 1k shd levels, you can get another character through WONY and have some watch levels to throw into the scavenging section of the watch

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otherwise doing things like factional events

jagged prism
tardy orbit
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xD

jagged prism
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same here XD

nocturne beacon
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Thank god I have them I was panicking

tardy orbit
nocturne beacon
plush otter
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doesnt it literally state at checkout that it may take upto 10 minutes to process?

kind pulsar
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So uhhh, I inflicted myself some pain through the game today, played 4 missions, both 10 times in a row, I can memorize the places I gotta go to in my head now, help 🥲

tardy orbit
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Its called steriods

kind pulsar
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Help I can still hear Galveston saying "Chickenhawk"

nocturne beacon
main delta
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Is it even worth me bumping up global difficulty to target farm for gear?

jagged prism
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you mean going from normal to hard, challenging or heroic?

smoky stag
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not for gear no
but for XP in open world activities
for gear loot, there are far better options in countdown and summit (from challenging upward, though i contend challenging loot is garbage)

kind pulsar
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Not for loot though

tardy orbit
smoky stag
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yes but its entirely dependent on what you from that area or what the mission's TL is, whereas summit and countdown you can dictate what the loot drop will be. and you can easily do floor 100 farm on heroic to legendary

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you can also dictate the repeatability of the farm

jagged prism
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it would all be dependent on if you have a proper build that can handle the higher difficulty though

smoky stag
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its not that difficult to get started on a decent, and i hate to say it, turret and drone skill build

jagged prism
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IE: fresh 40 back into DC you might find yourself getting frustrated if you go from normal to challenging as is

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but yes, turret and drone 6 skill tier is totally possible would make it easy on heroic no directives maybe even 4?

smoky stag
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try 5

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not that hard to find gearsets for skill damage on normal/hard. what makes it easier is the gearsets only need one roll. get them to drop, roll skill damage and you're set. you have options for hardwired, rigger, future initiative. even brand sets. just get them to drop, put skill damage too then thats it

main delta
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I just want the memento backpack

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Finishes off a few builds

jagged prism
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do things with Targeted Loot Backpack. If you do a mission/countdown/summit matchmaking start with looking for Memento and someone will probably drop it if they get it but gotta be careful of trolls who'll swipe it from you

main delta
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I got another (this time almost perfect) merciless

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From a challenging CP

cedar forum
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did the specialization revamp happen yet by any chance?

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also hi everyone o/

jagged prism
cedar forum
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If? aww it sounded so certain in their updates last year

jagged prism
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they got distracted by other things. Avatar Game, Mobile game and Battle Royale game and maybe star wars?

cedar forum
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I'm still holding out we'll get a Div 3 one day

jagged prism
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YT videos thinks there is one being made

cedar forum
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and was hoping the specialist revamp woulda been a nice tide me over

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I mean there's always one reason or another to support or oppose if something is being made or not, while it'd be nice I haven't let the rumors get my hopes up (especially because the rumor is saying "yeah for sure, maybe like 6 years from now")

jagged prism
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we were supposed to get a Descent game PTS in december but it was pushed back, so people are thinking mayish we'll get it. would make sense considering in may they're going to do a new thing for season

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so seasons aren't going to continue 1,2,3,4 but will now be Y1 S1 kind of deal so may Year 5 Season 1 (12 maybe?)

cedar forum
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Interesting, I'll keep my ears to the ground then!

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I just hope if there is a tentative plan to make div 3 and if it'll take over 5-6 years to get it out there, the people in charge dont end up deciding to not make it due to lack of players or perceived interest

jagged prism
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so mobile game is Resurgence = Div 1 but on phones and tablets

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battle royale = Heartland

cedar forum
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i thought heartland just included MP but was still more or less standard division stuff

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hmm interesting

jagged prism
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heartland is a totally different game in general only division is probably using the skills we have and who know whatelse. i didn't have any interest in it so you'd have to find a video that talks about it or ask people who did the beta if they can say anything about it

lunar nimbus
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I just about to say I want Tarkov game mode, since I main Tarkov, but I remembered there's Dark Zone 😂

quasi egret
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Can you hold your breath/steady while aiming down the sites of a sniper rifle?

undone timber
jagged prism
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and AI too smart to come out of cover for you to take your shot holding your breath with MMR

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when you need to breath and your weapon is aiming all over is when they'll end up peeking and hit you a bunch before going back into cover

smoky stag
astral jacinth
trail dune
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I was just wondering, if we buy TD2 on Steam, does our Uplay progress carry over?

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Furthermore, do I have to buy the DLC again?

astral jacinth
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Just add the game to Steam

jagged prism
trail dune
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Thank you both

jagged prism
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is there a point in having the game on steam and ubiconnect?

midnight lava
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nope

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Although if you bought it through steam I'd be hesitant to try it with just the uplay launcher it might be troublesome.

lean wasp
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So I have reached Tier 1 lvl 30 after beating the main story,so my question is now how do I progress further or do I just go into DLC expansion?

fringe tusk
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Hey, should i boost a charater or do the main campaign

undone timber
undone timber
lean wasp
fringe tusk
undone timber
lean wasp
undone timber
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If you wanna you can boost but it marks all the projects and side missions as done

lean wasp
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I do have boost,but Im wondering is it needed at this point

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Or maybe I leave it for Alt character or something

undone timber
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The boost you get is reusable I think

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You can use it indefinitely

lean wasp
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oh really

undone timber
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Yeah you can just make a bunch of characters to do the rounds with projects and raids and things

lean wasp
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But it does say you own "one" level 30 boost

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I bought ultimate edition on steam few days ago

smoky stag
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you can boost as many characters as you want

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vets actually create new characters, boost them to NY, get the shared materials, then delete the character and do it all over again. multiple times

jagged prism
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so the boost you have 2 ways of going at it.
first create character go through tutorial until you get to White House. There you boost your character it'll ask "do you want to boost to level 30 WT 5 or go into WONY?" you can choose the first and just do whatever you want

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the other is create your character skip to WONY and the boost is gone for that character and you start in NY at level 31

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both boosts will give you random gear that makes no sense in why they're giving it to you other than survivability

lean wasp
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okay so I can literally play my way of getting geared through 1-5 on level 30

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and with other character i can just boost

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thanks guys

sweet star
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Lmgs still suck?

late finch
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Not if you have the right build

sweet star
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But famas will always be superiors?

late finch
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Like I said, if you have the right build

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LMG is good for suppression in a group.

jagged prism
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if you want yes you totally could @lean wasp however people will be like why do you want a level 30 WT 1-5 character?

frozen meadow
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Hi peeps

paper phoenix
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Just hit 1000 a few minutes ago. The last 12 levels dragged because there were legit zero convoys anywhere.

jagged prism
thorny talon
frozen meadow
jagged prism
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Sleigher, tell me how you make that an awesome gun

frozen meadow
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And 4 piece eclipse

jagged prism
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so you get kills with sleigher for EP to trigger?

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and you always hit headshot with it?

frozen meadow
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Yes

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It's not super practical but it's doable

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I run sleigher with my healer build lmaoo

paper phoenix
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But that SHD Operative patch is dope.

frozen meadow
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5 directives is 120% i think not 125

paper phoenix
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I thought it was an extra 25% per?

frozen meadow
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Nope it drops off

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So you don't get stupid XP doing 10 directive summit

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All 10 directives iirc is 175

jagged prism
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i put 5 directives on and i see 125%

frozen meadow
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Ah okay

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Maybe it's different in summit?

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Or I'm just mistaken lol, but I do know that it drops off at some point

jagged prism
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10 i summit is 188% could've been dropped off so it'd drop the whole floor 10 exploit kind of thing

low vessel
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Dumb question but been a long time since played D2 so pre expansions etc. Is Dark Zone still utilized or is it just pve stuff?

frozen meadow
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Dark zone is still bully central

jagged prism
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so level 30 WT 5 Darkzone? should be doable still if you want to do it

frozen meadow
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If you feel like pissing people off just go into dz with a nemesis and go rogue on people who don't see you :)

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And then deconstruct their stuff

jagged prism
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but yeah, dark zone is more like people camping you at safe zones prett much

low vessel
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Ah i gotcha! Used to be so fun with like 4v4 rat and mouse games

paper phoenix
frozen meadow
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I will bully the hell out of those people

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Make the devs wish they never changed it

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xD

paper phoenix
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I mean, I'll be there looking.

frozen meadow
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If you were on PC then I'd tell you to watch your back

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Because I've camped extractions with a nemesis before

jagged prism
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i miss div 1 strong sticky bomb

frozen meadow
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I should totally do 100% pulse resist sniper

paper phoenix
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I am fucking useless in the DZ. Across both games I have exactly ONE kill on a guy that went Rogue on my friend and didn't pay attention to me.

jagged prism
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ninja bike you can get that and probably 80% disrupt resistence

frozen meadow
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I typed a curse word and discord crashed 💀

frozen meadow
pliant sentinel
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eevee ur such a rebel

paper phoenix
# jagged prism i miss div 1 strong sticky bomb

In Div1 I ran Tactician so I would run the circuit of named Elites and my sticky bomb would hit and flatten the entire crowd save for the named guy and then I would mop him up with the seeker mines.

jagged prism
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new one in PTS patch notes. 2 yahl and think 3 sys coruption all hazard protection and whatever for the yahl 2nd attribute

frozen meadow
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I don't need disrupt resistance

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I just need to be annoying af

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3 syscor and then a mod or two

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That's all I need for 100 pulse resist

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Then just red roll and run sniper

jagged prism
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not sure if there's a maximum we can get on hazard protection, but the 3pc and 2pc all hazard would put you at 100 in everything then the 80 from the pieces and a few pulse resistence and you won't be pulsed long if at all

frozen meadow
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100 is max

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It's not hard to get max haz

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3 piece eclipse is all it takes really

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30% + 60% (10% on everything) and 10 from watch

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Don't wanna use eclipse, then it's 1 yaahl, 2 ceska, 3 5.11

unique summit
paper phoenix
jagged prism
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yeah i totally suck at it too

frozen meadow
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Omega do you want me to teach you a trick to piss off everyone you meet in pvp

unique summit
paper phoenix
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I ran a 4pc HF build with Scorpio and Memento before Expertise and I got dropped frequently

unique summit
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and if you want a free kill just use busy bee :p

paper phoenix
frozen meadow
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HW + GC + Vile + Jammer

jagged prism
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but i do remember back in Div 1 and 3 other i played with had me hit a group extracting while one of them hit the going rogue and i decimated them with 1 sticky

frozen meadow
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Oh yeah all it takes to get full pulse resist is 1 mod and 3 piece syscor

unique summit
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dont consoles get auto aim?

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dont know how that works

frozen meadow
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Wait since when tf did syscor get weapon damage

jagged prism
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shrugs no clue i never played on console and don't plan on it

frozen meadow
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Seriously since when was syscor able to increase damage

paper phoenix
frozen meadow
#

Glass cannon

jagged prism
paper phoenix
frozen meadow
paper phoenix
unique summit
frozen meadow
#

I don't remember it ever increasing weapon damage

jagged prism
#

i remember it always being there

frozen meadow
#

Wtf

paper phoenix
jagged prism
#

no bonus armor you get no weapon damage

frozen meadow
#

But the armour kit gives bonus armour

jagged prism
#

yes for a period of time then it disappears like memento stacks

compact epoch
#

gives bonus armour and gets eradicated right away

unique summit
# paper phoenix Former

take a standard meta high-end DPS build and give it blue cores. 3 is fine. switch chest talent to unbreakable. use an AR with optimist. thats a start.

frozen meadow
compact epoch
#

To be honest since armor doesn't really helped that much I always stick with Red and Yellow

paper phoenix
jagged prism
compact epoch
#

even if you have 1-2m armor won't last that long

frozen meadow
#

In pvp?

paper phoenix
#

No

#

PvE only

frozen meadow
#

Not you

unique summit
compact epoch
#

PVP tried it a couple and get one shotted from enemy you don't see

frozen meadow
jagged prism
compact epoch
#

Of course the typical response of skill issue

#

Reason I stayed away of DZ is tons of exploits

paper phoenix
jagged prism
#

they want to fix that but someone was like they'd have to recode a lot because a lot of games suffer that

unique summit
paper phoenix
#

I went in earlier this season to farm Elite BT and that was it

compact epoch
#

Why would I frustrate my self on DZ when there is no fairplay and no incentive aside from getting inside and getting killed instantly

paper phoenix
#

I only just started working on using actual builds earlier this past summer

compact epoch
#

Or the 4 vs 1 scenario

jagged prism
compact epoch
jagged prism
#

or now seeing on trello board people could become invincible or invisible

paper phoenix
jagged prism
unique summit
#

its really not that bad tho. most of the time ppl are just farming landmarks. i only rarely see 2+ rogues doing non-stop pvp. and when they do the whole server just comes after them constantly so you can do your thing.

jagged prism
#

but game goes on sale like on steam they rebuy it for the price, boost to 31 get 40 and farm up their builds again and go at it again

compact epoch
#

They got banned for sure but they keep coming and looking for new exploits

unique summit
#

oh and if the group is chasing people around (pretty rare in my experience) and you dont wanna fight them then just switch to another dz. shrug

paper phoenix
wheat harbor
#

just wanted to ask if the game is worth coming back to or playing and if its "alive" ? I played the game when it first came out on launch and put in at least a 100 hours or so

compact epoch
wheat harbor
#

i miss my lightweight m4 );

compact epoch
wheat harbor
compact epoch
paper phoenix
#

I run the 30 floors of Summit 1x a week for the Exo cache, other than that I don't really go there unless I want to farm for something fairly specific

jagged prism
#

nods pretty much waht summit is for me

wheat harbor
#

i only have base game 💀

jagged prism
#

yes, count down is part of NY expansion

paper phoenix
jagged prism
#

base game your max level is 30 and you're stuck in DC, WONY increases level to 40 and opens up more things

paper phoenix
#

Warlords give you level 40 and the Agent Watch, PvE Rogues, etc.

quick tendon
#

Woo! Ok. Just made it to WT5 of the base game. Now, do I bother with going to DARPA/Zoo or hop on the chopper to NYC? And I’m sooo broke. Ugh.

paper phoenix
jagged prism
#

all up to what you want to do honestly. want to get to 40 quickly? hit up NYC

unique summit
#

ah derpa labs. how i hated that mission.

paper phoenix
#

I am not fond of the Pentagon missions tbh

wheat harbor
#

ahh gotcha, i think ubisoft + comes with WONY and UB+ is like a $1 to join so i might give it the dlc a try

jagged prism
#

i hate it when there's a "league" there XD

unique summit
cinder nacelle
quick tendon
#

Yeah. Wonder how long it’ll take me to reach my PS character level.

quick tendon
paper phoenix
quick tendon
#

I hated the college.

paper phoenix
frozen meadow
#

Coney island came out a month prior to wony

cinder nacelle
quick tendon
#

Been a long time. And going to NYC locks me out of D.C. until I finish it (I think).

paper phoenix
#

yes

jagged prism
#

yes once you goto NY you can't come back until you're 40 and finish Liberty Island

quick tendon
#

Ooof. Keener. Joy.

jagged prism
#

yeah

paper phoenix
#

I'm still mad we can't access ||ANNA||

frozen meadow
#

Didn't keener get married

fringe tusk
#

is it worth buying rn now?

frozen meadow
#

Yes

paper phoenix
frozen meadow
#

._.

unique summit
paper phoenix
#

He comes across as too selfish for that

frozen meadow
#

But there's no proof saying he hasn't

unique summit
#

he's a sociopath

frozen meadow
#

He totally could have had an accidental child

quick tendon
#

So, aside from being locked out of D.C., is there any achievements trophies im missing out on? Going to NYC isn’t boosted right?

sudden dune
#

How is everyone who play on pc@

quick tendon
#

(Oh yeah. No Cassie in NYC I think)

paper phoenix
jagged prism
#

boosted refers to you either skip DC at character creation or you go through tutorial and get to white house and use the level 30 boost to hit WT 5 or level 31 and goto new york

quick tendon
#

Ahhh nope. I didn’t pull that trigger. So going to NYC, it’s a minor step -vacation- from D.C. I can go back and go do things I missed out on.

jagged prism
#

think someone asked about that and someone mentioned getting platinum

#

think an achievement kind of thing

frozen meadow
#

Some commendations are locked iirc

quick tendon
#

Which won’t apply to me I think. (Hrms)

elfin nest
#

is the place for farming gear sets countdown?

paper phoenix
#

CD or Summit

jagged prism
#

summit, countdown even Anderson manhunt mission

#

to set the targeted loo on anderson mission you set it through summit/countdown before you go to mission

elfin nest
#

what would be easier for a person with bad gear

jagged prism
#

i've had great lucky geting a bunch of loot drop in the EMP room. just sitting in a spot have them funnel to me and i kill them for 20 minutes

#

next time i go in there i go loot up and repeat the process XD

elfin nest
#

would u recommend summit or reg countdown?

jagged prism
#

summit is less stressful and you can go at your own pace, countdown if you match make there's not quarantee you'll get through it. some might see your build and instantly kick you

elfin nest
#

what difficulty should i set the game modes?

unique summit
#

you'll get a ton of loot. maybe you'll get kicked 1 out of 10 times from the group, who cares.

frozen meadow
#

Don't queue countdown on challenging

unique summit
#

challenging level countdown can be carried by like 2 people and the party size is 8. it's fine.

frozen meadow
#

Do heroic you'll find people easier

unique summit
frozen meadow
#

I'm not

unique summit
#

🤦‍♂️

jagged prism
#

just know, Countdown is a timed event so no just standing there reading all your gear

#

you'll just have to loot and sort after you leave

frozen meadow
#

I think the name implies that lost

#

Heroic CD isn't difficult

#

Challenging CD is irrelevant

unique summit
#

@elfin nest trust. just do a few runs and you'll see. challenging countdown. make sure you have room in inventory for 50 items. don't use skills like turret/drone because it'll get hacked by hunters. follow everyone and shoot what they shoot. make sure you select your targeted loot. also make sure you have a build planned out so you're farming for the right things. it'll only take 3-4 runs to put together a starter build to get you going.

unique summit
#

unless maybe you run sniper and even then

frozen meadow
#

Then why are you suggesting challenging over heroic

unique summit
#

because they said they have a bad build

#

and a bad build is not suited for heroic b/c the enemies are extra tanky

#

they wont be able to help at all

jagged prism
#

"XIV-Evo — Today at 8:48 PM
what would be easier for a person with bad gear" @frozen meadow

frozen meadow
#

I've done many heroic CDs with brand new players

unique summit
#

i personally run heroic cd exclusively, love it. but you need the right build.

frozen meadow
#

Hell half the team being new at times

unique summit
#

same BUT those teams get wiped a lot

frozen meadow
#

It's not a problem

unique summit
#

you need 3-4 people carrying

frozen meadow
#

You don't

unique summit
#

agree to disagree lmao

frozen meadow
#

🤷‍♀️ you can suggest challenging and I can suggest heroic

elfin nest
jagged prism
unique summit
#

plus you need a little more experience to use eclipse build well, imo.

elfin nest
sudden dune
#

How’s everyone

jagged prism
#

yes, eclipse you can try to peek to shoot your sticky or chem launcher if you go that route and go down

unique summit
frozen meadow
unique summit
frozen meadow
#

Striker is bs powerful

jagged prism
#

it will be when ninja back hits XD

#

3pc striker 2 hf and you'll have some serious survivablity hopefully (> <)

undone timber
#

You don't even lose stacks for missing like on div1

jagged prism
undone timber
#

Ohhhh

jagged prism
#

like just decays, missed shots decreased 2 stacks

undone timber
#

I've only owned div1 for like a month and I'm already missing d3 gear 😭

jagged prism
#

yeah, i went back and was like i want lonestar, tactition, banshee, firecrest and forget whatelse

undone timber
#

Div1 gearsets are way cooler than the ones in div2

jagged prism
#

believe when they first released them it was classifed like. had to have all 6 pieces on to get their talents, they gear 2.0 came out and dropped to 4 pc and a whole rework

paper phoenix
#

Div 1's gear and vibes are a much different level than Div2. Much more.....I dunno....realistic.

jagged prism
#

like back before WONY single digit TU they had 2 pieces you wanted so much in your build. Berserk chest and Clutch gloves

undone timber
#

Apparently all gear used to have talents like div1

jagged prism
#

basically clutch is as it is now every crit repaired your armor, berserk chest would increase your weapon damage with how much armor you were missing

frozen meadow
#

Berserk was amazing

undone timber
#

60% CHC clutch berserk sounds nuts

frozen meadow
#

It was

#

And you'd stack health

#

You had people running around with what's now equal to 1.5 mil health

jagged prism
#

pair with old Negotiators and you'd die tryin got down one player

frozen meadow
#

Old nego was weird

#

But old A&E ill forever miss D:

jagged prism
#

so anytime the nego player lost armor it'd shoot explosives to the player that broke the armor i think and with berserk clutch you'd just hit yourself with a lot of explosions and go down. experienced that once wasn't fun

frozen meadow
#

Grenades

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It was grenades on armour loss

#

Martyrdom

undone timber
#

Grenades also seem useless compared to div1 in this game

#

They take about a century to detonate

frozen meadow
#

Mad bomber

jagged prism
#

yeah and there's a chest talent "mad bomber" where you can cook some grenades before you throw it but it requires a few extra steps

#

like hit g to equip grenade aim and hold left click until you get it where you want it and when you throw greande it'll explode how you want it to. hold it too long and you can hit yourself

undone timber
#

I run kingbreaker and the closer chest cuz I'm not good enough to get a better build 💀

frozen meadow
#

Lol

jagged prism
#

mind you doing that you come out of cover

undone timber
#

It steamrolls challenging but I get clapped on heroic

#

The jump seems pretty steep

jagged prism
#

it could be a build issue

undone timber
#

It might be my shd level

jagged prism
#

IE: if you're all high end with closer it's probably just not doing enough damage

#

SHD has nothing to do with it other than getting the extra stats and health

undone timber
#

I have Picaros ceska gloves and other stuff I don't remember

paper phoenix
#

Kinda sounds like a bunch of random stuff slapped together

jagged prism
#

so like closer + 4pc heartbreaker, technician with the tactical link pointer to pulse while aiming with king breaker and you might be able to do heroic with little to no troubles

undone timber
#

Virtually the whole thing relies on the linked laser 💀

undone timber
#

all CHC/CHD rolls or

paper phoenix
#

I can do Heroic no issues with my turret and drone, but I cannot take hardly any hits at all

undone timber
#

I had a cheese skill build but it's not really fun so I'm tryna get a proper one together for heroic

paper phoenix
#

Mine is 4pc Strikers rolled to yellow cores, Memento backpack and a Fenris chest for AR damage since my primary is Capacitor.

jagged prism
#

if you want to go the CHC CHD then you can change out the closer and use the heartbreaker chest then put in a ceska/grupo sumbra so you can get to that 50-60% and get a high CHD to boot

undone timber
#

What are the heartbreaker bonuses again anyway

jagged prism
#

2pc increases AR and LMG damage, 3pc 15% weapon handling, 4pc you generate stacks against pulsed targets that nets you bonus armor and weapon damage
"Talent: Heartstopper

Headshots apply pulse for 5 seconds.
Weapon hits on pulsed enemies add and refresh a stack of 1% bonus armor and 1% damage to pulsed enemies for 5 seconds.
Max stack is 50."

undone timber
#

Does the laser pointer permanently pulse or do you have to constantly point it at them

jagged prism
#

chest increases stack to 100

paper phoenix
jagged prism
#

shrugs no clue whatever i pulse with that usually dies quickly or gets to cover and i go upto them and kill them

undone timber
#

Ah

#

Crusader and riot foam or other skills

jagged prism
#

whatever skills you want really

undone timber
#

Ah

jagged prism
#

you can keep it armor core for strong shield and chc for attribute

undone timber
#

Would a kingbreaker or FAMAS be better cuz stacks

jagged prism
#

or get it with chc and then change core to weapon damage

#

kingbreaker for the pointer, famas can't equip it

undone timber
#

Ohhh

#

Alr bet I'll run some pentco

#

So ideally all red cores or hybrid between blue and red

#

So Essentially heartbreaker is strikers with bonus armour and extra steps

jagged prism
#

yeah, think my full red heartbreaker i went chest, gloves, holster, knees, group mask and named ceska backpack for perfect clutch for the lol

#

if you want to further your bonus armor and weapon damage put in the memento

#

my blue build, i went mask, gloves, knees and holster, closer chest and whatever backpack all with armor regen just for the fun of it (> <)

stiff pollen
#

I got a minor question, manhunt finished and i got 2 coms missing usually i just repeat the manhunt missions in previous seasons but this time that's not an option. What do I do?

low lily
#

I don't think you can do anything if that's the case

stiff pollen
#

🥺

elfin hazel
#

not an option how

paper phoenix
#

Just reset the entire manhunt and do it again

elfin hazel
#

^

low lily
#

Wasn't all the coms on the mission itself, that you had to do it couple of times?

quick tendon
#

Ooof. Forgot about the bench. All the stuff I did was for the 30s. Ugh. Guess I’ll pop over to NYC.

paper phoenix
jagged prism
paper phoenix
#

The chat comms between Andersen and Natalya IIRC

jagged prism
#

ah ok

paper phoenix
#

Plus I believe the conversations between Andersen and the BT enforcers Natalya provided him (Trig, Chirpy, Lucky, Micro) counted as well.

jagged prism
#

think i saw it when i was running it back to back for exotics and was like wtf is that for? but just kept on playing XD

paper phoenix
#

Yeah, when you kill the final Named Elite on the way out

quick tendon
#

Oooooh new armour types. Don’t recall seeing a +1 skill attribute.

#

And I’m gonna be a rainbow (rarity) again. Green and blue stuff.

low vessel
#

Where would you guys recommend to look up builds to go after as fresh 30?

winter radish
low vessel
#

Yes sir! Returning from xbox from years back on steam and everything is new lol

winter radish
#

Aight, then don't bother with builds just yet. The moment you arrive in NY, all the gear from DC will be obsolete and you'll constantly get new stuff throughout the expansion. Start looking into builds once you hit level 40 and are back in DC.

low vessel
winter radish
#

Then head over to #td2-build-advice and check the pinned messages. There's a link to a google spreadsheet with loads of builds for various playstyles

low vessel
jolly chasm
#

ayo how do i leave a clanm?

winter radish
#

open the clan roster, click on your name and leave clan

jolly chasm
#

ty

quick tendon
grim charm
#

Hey, I haven't played Div2 since release and saw it's rly cheap on Steam right now. If I didn't have crashing problems back then is there a good chance I won't have them now, or did they start somewhere down the life of the game?

plush otter
#

also if you were playing before you could just run it on ubiconnect or egs if you had it there without rebuying

grim charm
#

Aight ty, one more question: If I have the base on ubiconnect and buy the ultimate on steam, will they merge or something? I heard steam just starts ubiconnect

#

I would prefer a complete fresh start, so if it wipes any old progress that wouldn't matter

plush otter
#

steam just starts ubiconnect indeed, so its just that account so you will have your old characters, if you want to start fresh you can as you have 4 char slots,
but if you have done the base campaign already and were at world tier 5, you could buy the expansion and do WONY campaing, its allot shorter and likely enough to get the hang again.

#

and yes if you buy the ultimate version on steam it will upgrade your account after the first launch on steam

#

but also you could buy the expansion on ubi and save a little if you dont mind missing those steam features

grim charm
#

Thanks for the info, starting fresh from 0 and using Steam are #1 priorities though, so just wanted to make sure those work ty

low vessel
paper phoenix
#

One thing I'd probably recommend is not focusing on the Expertise system for a bit until you get your feet under you.

inland garden
#

bridge breakers not spawning in east mall what do i do?

tepid lily
#

Any1 wanna run?

rare dust
#

What time does the focused loot rotate on the map ?

smoky stag
#

2 hours 10 minutes ago (whatever that time is in your timezone), daily

azure lintel
#

can u change target loot??'

#

anyone down to do the last man hunt bounty with me?

smoky stag
# azure lintel can u change target loot??'

target loot is assigned randomly on daily basis for openworld zones and missions
only summit and countdown modes (and by extension, anderson manhunt) will allow you to select the target loot of your choosing

rare dust
smoky stag
#

then convert accordingly

elfin hazel
#

this should be in your timezone

sweet star
#

It feels like no matter what build from youtube or here I choose - I can’t output crazy damage like the videos or spread sheets. Does this have to do with the shd lvls?

smoky stag
#

do you have the right rolls? are the rolls decent?
playstyle is factor too

sweet star
#

I do it’s just not maxed

#

I guess I have to optimize

smoky stag
#

not really

#

whats your output at the range?

#

on what gun too

sweet star
#

No idea but I def don’t melt dudes

#

Like I’m talking heroic n challenging

#

Famas 2010

smoky stag
#

well which build we talking about here

sweet star
#

The one you suggested

smoky stag
#

which is?

sweet star
#

Your build you sent with screenshot. The contractor gloves

#

ceska
grupo
contractors
foxes
memento
fenris

#

Chamelliom and famas

smoky stag
#

whats your peak per bullet damage on the famas

sweet star
#

No idea. I know I’m not helping lol

#

My shd is like 50

#

Isn’t optimize the only way to max attributes?

smoky stag
#

il replicate that build one sec
thats not really a build i run. but it should have been an improvement on the one from patrick wolf

sweet star
#

Every shd lvl I get I focus on crit chance , armor, accuracy and I forget the other

smoky stag
#

whats your crit stats on the famas

sweet star
#

I do run Scorpio too and it’s meh on challenging

#

I think it’s like 8.5 chd and 4 crit chance

#

Oh on the famas . No idea

smoky stag
#

srsly those are your crit stats on the entire build?

sweet star
#

No on my gear pieces whrrevere I can fill chd n crit chance. My chd is usually like 8 and chc like 4

#

4-5

smoky stag
#

im asking about whats your total chc chd on the famas

sweet star
#

No clue tbh

smoky stag
#

check your stats

sweet star
#

5am here

#

I’m not playing rn

smoky stag
#

im hitting 760k per crit on the famas without the memento stacks

#

and thats more than enough on solo heroic

sweet star
#

Weird

#

Your shd must be higher

smoky stag
#

53 crit chance
156 crit damage

sweet star
#

What your specialization

#

Hm

#

I’d conclude it’s either my crit gear mods aren’t maxed or it’s my shd lvl

smoky stag
# sweet star Your shd must be higher

im shd 30746 but thats irrelevant
the addition is something that can be augmented with right attributes and rolls so more likely you have incorrect attributes or too low attributes on your gear

sweet star
#

As I said chc 8 and crit chance 4

#

Hm I guess

smoky stag
#

its never the shd level
at shd 100 running full red PGC vigilance i was already hitting 1 million crits on my AR
and there was no expertise then

sweet star
#

So what do you suggest to max my attributes then

#

Expertise maybe something to consider to

smoky stag
#

expertise and the watch bonuses arent that much of a factor

sweet star
#

Ah ok

#

Yeah probably the gear then

cinder nacelle
#

Well, it sucks but it seems like I'm not going to be able to to this manhunt mission properly. I can't get a full group together through matchmaking. It's too sketchy with just two people and even finding one other is tricky. Will have to put it down to normal and just get it done solo. 😿

fervent berry
smoky stag
#

if its the anderson final mission, you'll probably have more luck on normal difficulty since thats where everyone is at, farming for exotics

cinder nacelle
cinder nacelle
smoky stag
#

because the devs f'd up.
every completion of anderson final mission on any difficulty rewards a guaranteed random exotic drop. every time. provided you've completed the entire manhunt

#

and normal obviously the fastest way to do it (10-12 min runs)

fervent berry
#

How are the rolls though? Decent enough like what you'd get on Heroic+?

smoky stag
#

rolls dont matter with exotics
but pretty much same with heroic

fervent berry
#

Oh right, was thinking of normal loot 😂

smoky stag
#

at least the ones i gave away.
i just decon them mostly

#

without looking

cinder nacelle
#

Ha ha. Oh wow. That's crazy. Seems I've been missing out. Would be the first manhunt final mission I will not complete on heroic though. 😿

smoky stag
#

i did mine solo heroic. its doable.
but if u wanna play with others, might have better luck on normal. for those reasons

fervent berry
#

Yeah, it's certainly doable on Heroic by yourself but only if you focus solely on the objectives

smoky stag
#

the trick is to focus on objectives first and not the enemies unless they're in your way

fervent berry
#

Yeah, what Doom said 🤭

cinder nacelle
#

Hmmm... maybe I will give it a try. I don't have any loadout that has any aspect of survivability in it so heroic solo is quite stressful. Maybe my drone/turret as it's the safest...

smoky stag
#

umbra will do well there
not my cup of tea but it has both the brrr brrr and armor recovery aspect

#

my first run thru i was running strikers

fervent berry
#

Just remember that deployable skills won't work in that EMP stage and that can be annoying

cinder nacelle
#

I've got multiple weapon DPS, skill DPS, and CC/ status but nothing tanky... if I had more time maybe I could have thrown something together. Yeah skill won't work in the beginning.

smoky stag
#

a decoy will help you on the first emp generator.
thats really the only tricky generator. the other 2 are fairly easier to hack and defend

#

if you can get them off you while hacking, there isnt really much reason to engage unless theyre in your face. saves you getting damaged. you only really need to clear initials and whatever's left after destroying all 3 gennys

fervent berry
#

IMO, you don't need a tanky build but it certainly helps if you have a build that can help sustain or heal you in the long run like Umbra or HF. Maybe a Strikers build with Gunner spec or something. After all, you wanna kill faster than you take damage.

cinder nacelle
#

I do have a Striker loadout actually. Okay well, thanks for the tips. I guess I'll see how things go today. 👍

obsidian hatch
#

what got me through was HF + Memento + Emeline's Guard while running Gunner Spec

#

objective is the most important part so you gotta be running and rushing a lot so chances are enemies will be at your face. That 59% (25% from HF, 24% if you land a headshot kill from Perfect Preservation, 10% AoK from Gunner Spec) AoK is hugely valuable + the 3% Armor Regen from the Memento backpack will allow you to sustain pretty much the entire run

#

others can be different but I find AoK very valuable for this manhunt

plush otter
#

as a minor correction, HF is 20

obsidian hatch
#

oh my bad

#

54% then but again it's still a huge armor boost and very good for solo manhunt run

plush otter
#

yeah, solo especially it can work, and there is plenty of time to go a little slower on the killing and just make sure you make it, either with aok, or other survivability setups.

fervent berry
#

Emeline's Guard has the Perfect Preservation, right?

obsidian hatch
#

indeed ya

#

12% on kill, 24% if headshot kill

fervent berry
#

I just used an MPX with Preservation at one point for sustain and it was pretty good. I wish I could like how that P90 handles.

obsidian hatch
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I think anything with preservation could work, I just happen to have a P90 (Emeline's Guard) on me so I ran with it

fervent berry
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This actually sounds fun to me. I'll try this on my HF setup and see how it goes. Normally I run UMP45 Flatline with the Tech laser.

obsidian hatch
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it was sth I made specifically for that manhunt run and it was before nerf I should mention

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enemies number got reduced now so it shouldn't be as tough

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54% AoK was pretty much what kept me alive while rushing through the objectives

fervent berry
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Honestly, 54% AoK sounds overkill and OP at the same time 😂

obsidian hatch
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I think this is the single hardest mission in the DIvision franchise, not counting Legendaries, Raids and Incursions.

obsidian hatch
cinder nacelle
obsidian hatch
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aw sad. I gotta say as a Division vet, I've never faced this much difficulty on what can be considered just a story mission

cinder nacelle
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I think what makes it tricky is it's so different from the other missions where you just run through and slaughter everything. It takes some time to figure out what you need to do and how to approach it.

north cloak
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Which mission are we discussing?

obsidian hatch
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Anderson Manhunt

north cloak
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Ah

obsidian hatch
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I swear that timer is what made me fail so many times since it made me reckless

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It's like seeing that big ass moon hover over the sky in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

cinder nacelle
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Yeah the balance between killing enemies and pushing forward for the objectives seems key.

obsidian hatch
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ye you gotta pick your targets. Sometimes you just have to tank through the bullets to complete the objective

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the first section imo is the hardest since the EMP will wipe all of your armor if you are within its range

cinder nacelle
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Oh man, and then that nasty EMP in the mix. That's pretty brutal combined with enemies coming from every direction.

obsidian hatch
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and they are all BTs

sweet star
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Anyone know a clan on os4 that is recruiting that does a lot of legendary content. Need help getting max rolls - all clans are pc in clan recruitment channel

obsidian hatch
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I think this mission is a true test for solo players

cinder nacelle
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Honestly I have an Imperial Dynasty CC/status loadout with shock trap etc that I think could work really well to immobilise the enemies but I don't think that would work solo. Would be great in a squad.

obsidian hatch
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I mean there's legendaries also but I think the mission design there is pretty yikes as intended

wooden ferry
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Is bounty grinding the best way to get the Chameleon or is there a better way?

obsidian hatch
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bounties are the best one imo

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I got like 5 or 6 of them through random bounties alone

wooden ferry
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I need one for my build

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Hopefully doesnt take too long to drop

obsidian hatch
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well you gotta pray for RNG dude

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just keep doing bounties that is on Heroic. There are 3 bosses so your chance might increase

plush otter
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its only the final named of a bounty that has the specific drop source % for cham, but the overall %-tage is higher on higher difficulties, so not 3 chances but 1 higher chance on heroic

wooden ferry
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world should be set to heroic too then right?

plush otter
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bounties have their own difficulty, the world diff doesnt really matter to them

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but you can farm heroic bounties on heroic world, as it only drops current difficulty and higher bounties from public executions/hostage rescues/the snitch

hard ridge
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I think I just realized something. The targeted loot aspect kind of ruins the fun of getting the gear randomly 🤔 IQ 200+ I know lol

broken solstice
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i still get plenty of random gear that isnt whats targeted in that area

hard ridge
broken solstice
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you lucky. thats what it is

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but na its a lot of targeted loot drops in comparison to non-targeted loot

plush otter
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you will always get more non target loot than target loot

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as for target loot to drop, normal loot must drop first

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that normal loot then has a chance of having target loot drop alongside it, that is the %number directives modify

broken solstice
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ah i see

tender wave
plush otter
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also while TL makes generic builds quicker to get, farming for good stats is still the grind

hard ridge
hard ridge
frozen meadow
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Without targeted loot, farming was hell back in the day

tender wave
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Try farming for a true unicorn (eg Golan Gear backpack with skill haste, status effects and creeping death), put your rng to a real test

broken solstice
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i still managed to build most of my arsenal of gear and weapons before targeted loot started

frozen meadow
plush otter
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also consider that we are in year 4, and 3 years of this gear system, so they have been making it easier with every few updates since then, with things like summit and countdown having settable target loot, or even more back when they changed mission chests to scale

broken solstice
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they dont want new players to be put off by the frustrating RNG maybe. let them progress to end game faster

frozen meadow
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Targeted loot game out before wony, no?

broken solstice
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na

plush otter
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on a side note, i was watching a very old vid recently from in year 1, and had totally forgotten you had to run to invaded missions, as you couldnt fast travel to them back then

frozen meadow
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You also had heroic locked to invaded

plush otter
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think tl was before wony yeah

tender wave
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QoL updates are a wonderful thing

frozen meadow
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Pretty sure targeted loot came out pre-wony

tender wave
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I thought target loot was added at the same time as summit

frozen meadow
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No

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Way before lol

plush otter
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no, summit was just he first targetable one

broken solstice
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i always get frustrated when im in someones group who doesnt have classified missions bc i use those for fast travel allll the time

plush otter
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as i remember legendary farms of tl and everyone keeping a eye on lincoln every day for its TL

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as that was the way before summit

frozen meadow
plush otter
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tu 6 with pentagon, so yeah before wony, is wwhen tl was added

frozen meadow
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i dont follow things by TU

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i wouldnt call it TU6 id call it episode 2

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lol

plush otter
frozen meadow
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yeah, when wony came out

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lol

tender wave
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Fair enough, I hadn't got that much playtime in before summit so misremembering. Didn't get the game until after WONY was released, and didn't get that until half way through season 1.

frozen meadow
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pre-TL farming was awful

distant cargo
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one question i was making a break for a couple of months bcs of the crashes did they fix that or its the same thing ?

frozen meadow
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no updates since

distant cargo
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loltnx

winter radish
distant cargo
tender wave
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I wonder if larger clans will do 12-person DZ instance takeovers for EB/Rav farming purposes. Imagine how quickly you could pile through landmarks. If anyone gets a drop that doesn't need it themselves, they can just let another player go rogue (drop group if necessary) and kill them for it

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nah, crashes aren't noticeably worse than before - they just haven't got any better either

frozen meadow
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iirc the drop chance should be around 0.05%

tender wave
frozen meadow
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.027%

distant cargo
merry zinc
frozen meadow
main delta
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The EB drop % is still gonna be higher in the raid, they’re just making it more accesable to people who can’t raid

frozen meadow
main delta
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Nope, I’m (not aware since I’ve not done it) of the drop % in the raid

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But why would they increase the drop % outside of the intended method

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This is one of those things where the ETF would be super helpful with input

tender wave
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afaik drop chance in the raid is 1% from the bosses and 10% from the final chest

main delta
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Yea then .05% seems to be right unless we’re told otherwise

winter radish
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I mean... if you factor in the chance of actually making a successful extraction with an EB, it's gonna bring down your chance of getting one even more

main delta
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So wanna talk about luck, first run (of bank) on challenging I drop the momento backpack

maiden belfry
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So EB is gonna be in DZ?

winter radish
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eb, rav and bighorn

frozen meadow
maiden belfry
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What about Reg

frozen meadow
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nope

maiden belfry
frozen meadow
maiden belfry
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Anyone excited as shit for Ninjabike bp

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Finally something that will change the gameplay drastically

frozen meadow
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im just concerned

maiden belfry
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Concerned for cheese?

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Which build?

low flame
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Other dz exotics have a 0.078% chance to drop. Finding the raid ones specifically is going to be even tougher out of all the exotics that can drop in the dz

maiden belfry
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There's also suggestion to put targetted loot in conflict, I like that

low flame
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I don’t get how conflict targeted loot would work. Are you gonna loot the bodies of dead agents? Is it gonna be something like the boost where you have to collect it? Or are the caches gonna be targeted loot? It just doesn’t make sense to implement tl on conflict for me

maiden belfry
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In conflict, you earn caches by playing a match, you earn two caches by winning the match, caches drop gear which include PvP exclusive items

low flame
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Yeah I know that and you actually get one cache from winning, one from playing, and another from leveling up your conflict level

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But if you’re max level then it is probably two

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And I don’t know what the max level is

maiden belfry
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it's 100

cerulean coral
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I need help getting to a higher level i played Dv1 but just started Dv2 anyone wanna help

tender wave
cerulean coral
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thanks

lament mirage
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Nah

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As it requires the project n killing the bosses

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Although I think if u already completed the project and need another regulus they could maybe then add it to the dz pool but people would riot

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Seeing how people already upset about EB and ravenous

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Kinda shocked bighorn going to dz tho but no longer having the legendary requirements makes it so other players can farm it easier

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I kinda don’t care about all 3 just missing 1 and more looking forward n hoping next season’s exotics are good

winter radish
# lament mirage Kinda shocked bighorn going to dz tho but no longer having the legendary require...

Kinda debatable if it really should be like that. Hard content should reward you with rare rewards, just like in any other MMO-ish game. If they take the weapons away from raids and legendary, there will be no point in doing them for a lot of people. I mean, just look at Kenly College.... for most people, the reason to go there was the Diamondback. Now that it's in the general loot pool, Kenly is even more of a ghost town than it was before.

lament mirage
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True u have a valid point

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Removing the rewards will make people play it less

polar warren
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Where do I find my conflict stashes at base ?

low flame
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The caches will be in your inventory and if that is full they will be at the stash which is located right near the main entrance at the white house

lament mirage
plush otter
tender wave
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imo people should play the different modes for fun, or out of curiousity. If something is not fun, forcing players to slog through it anyway just to get the exclusive rewards is not good game design

lament mirage
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So basically they just giving the players another method of getting it

lament mirage
polar warren
winter radish
plush otter
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also im very surprised at the steam numbers again, 8k+ currently playing on steam alone right now, even with the mixed reviews and such

winter radish
elfin hazel
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the DZ while maybe not the best choice for fun is still variety and another option allowing people to not be forced into one place to get 1 item

plush otter
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kenly was just a one and done near its release, there was no reason to redo it because it didnt have difficulties at the time, now it does but no TL, if it did have TL and a slight rework to remove the downtime between fights, its salvagable content, but would take time to remake something most of the community has made a meme out of

tender wave
# winter radish How is adding the weapons to the DZ loot pool any different?

it's more options - people who hate the raids do not necessarily hate the DZ too (although that is quite possible). Part of the dev thinking here is they want to revitalize pvp a bit, so this is one way of forcing it. I don't necessarily agree as it exposes players to some of the worst toxicity in the game, but hey. Options is options.

elfin hazel
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a player having options to get items is still better than a player not having options and begrudgingly doing something

winter radish
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But that kinda boils down to entitlement, I feel. I don't want to put in the work to farm for a raid or PVP build, watch some YT videos on the matter and prepare, but I still want the rewards that come with completing those contents. If you don't wanna do a certain type of content, that's fine. But what makes people think they should be rewarded for it anyway?

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I mean, at this point, they could just add all the exos into the general loot pool and call it a day

tender wave
elfin hazel
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I feel entitlement is a poor excuse as the raids came out several years ago and quite honestly I'd bet at minimum 45% of the playerbase have not done the raids

zinc shadow
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any game with raids should have raid exclusive rewards

tender wave
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rewards should be cosmetics only, not actual gameplay advantage stuff

elfin hazel
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yes since day 1 of the raids theres been calls for the exclusives be it gear or the exotics shouldnt be exclusive but those have died down a lot for a long time now only maybe picking back up after the gear set pieces have been put into the general loot pool

tender wave
elfin hazel
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^ as long as its more than just a backpack trophy or a patch I'm all on board for this change

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like DZ exclusives are already a huge pain to get so in my eyes these arent much different

plush otter
elfin hazel
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yeah I'd say realistically my bet would be 75-90% that was just at minimum very liberally at that

tender wave
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got most of my dz exclusives through named caches, I think the only one I actually went farming for was The Gift (got a few through season tracks too though)

winter radish
molten spire
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The only things DZ exclusive that are still difficult to acquire are Yaahl and System Corruption. The named items and exotics most people chase for are much easier to get through farming named caches with Countdown Requisition

IMO the really notable change was adding the Future Initiative and Foundry Bulwark chests and backpacks to the general loot pool instead of being raid exclusives, the former made FI builds much more accessible

tender wave
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I do check the forums, and the topic does come up occasionally, but it's not a frequent request and doesn't get a huge amount of support when it does show

plush otter
molten spire
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(Foundry Bulwark is more popular with people who get all their advice from YouTubers and get mad when people they're playing Legendaries, Raids or Countdown with kick them for their inability to deal damage)

winter radish
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Neither was the F10 nerf, yet... if you're loud enough....

merry zinc
elfin hazel
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the response to the F10 "nerf" had people acting like the game was going to die n what not and yet here it is still the same I'd be willing to bet without countdown summit would still be used by players so I think the same will be for raids

brave aspen
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lol

tender wave
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floor 10 was clearly always unintended behaviour, and had in my mind a negative impact on people's enjoyment of the game (since they felt compelled by efficiency to spend all their time in one ugly, boring & repetitive corner of the game)

brave aspen
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Destiny 2 had some funny checkpoint shenanigans too

molten spire
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Blueprint crafting hasn't been relevant since Level 40 introduced better drops on rolls with higher global difficulties

merry zinc
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now the barrier to entry is way higher for an already struggling game

brave aspen
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What barrier?

tender wave
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'barrier to entry' should hopefully get sorted if they remove watch & expertise bonuses from pvp as they've suggested

brave aspen
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SHD ranks?

elfin hazel
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again loot caves & xp farms break the gameplay loop of looter shooters and will be #1 priority to fix

merry zinc
molten spire
elfin hazel
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expertise & watch in pve are a very small barrier as many people here can, will & do suggest builds and what to do after WoNY

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I'd argue expertise isnt a barrier at all even

merry zinc
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if you don’t have a max watch in pvp you aren’t gonna kill good players it’s as simple as that

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no reason why we need to gate keep something that bad

elfin hazel
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yes but pvp is acknowledged to be a much much smaller playerbase along with them likely to remove those bonuses from PVP

molten spire
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People farmed Floor 10 for the loot, not a 7796857894394 HP boost after armor

elfin hazel
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pve is the main focus for this game and thats been the case since day 1

merry zinc
tender wave
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floor 10 still not a good solution to that gameplay problem of wanting more accessible pvp

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from a game design perspective anyway

merry zinc
molten spire
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The relevant SHD bonuses cap out at SHD 1000, and the HP bonuses go away in maybe two AR bullets

molten spire
merry zinc
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you could get max watch within a couple days and be fine

molten spire
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For PvP it really does not

elfin hazel
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thats a very pessimistic view on things that admittedly do move slower than we'd like but having players do the same exact task over and over for days is not a good solution to a deeper problem that is merely a really bad bandaid

merry zinc
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and now convoy runs which are even slower for shd

merry zinc
molten spire
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If you argued that lootcaving was required for the very specific sort of attribute combinations people run for PvP after blue rerolls that would have seemed plausible

elfin hazel
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pvp does need a whole rework but for a game that is pve focused since day 1 that will be on the backburner as it has been since development started again but repeating the same exact thing over and over is not a solution by any means thats simply delaying the problem

plush otter
merry zinc
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we don’t want new players doing floor 10 hundreds of times we want them to do countdown and convoys hundreds of times instead

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the grind is just way worse now for no reason

molten spire
elfin hazel
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the game is a grind loop yes as are all looter shooters but I do not agree that repeated tasks are a good thing I do not agree that countddown & summit should be the only options for grinding

plush otter
merry zinc
plush otter
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pvp is a tiny part of the playerbase

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dont think that what matters there generally matters

molten spire
plush otter
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for pve at 250 you are already most of the way there

merry zinc
merry zinc
elfin nest
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whats the best way of gettting exotics

merry zinc
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that’s a game issue

molten spire
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or at least the apparent path of least resistance given how often people with bad builds wipe at the end anyway

merry zinc
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the people that think floor 10 was a decent change just have 0 understanding what the new player experience is like rn

elfin hazel
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but the new player most likely isn't getting into the game for its pvp

unique summit
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luckily i can roll with him and literally drop everything i get to gear him up

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guaranteed he'd quit if i didn't do that

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makes no sense

merry zinc
tender wave
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literally everyone has gone through that grind though, it's easier than ever now with countdown for loot. It's only in PVP where the watch & expertise actually matter

elfin hazel
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yes it can take a long time to level the watch thats by design thats been by design since WoNY was announced is it a good thing not necessarily but thats how its meant to be

unique summit
merry zinc
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everyone went through that grind with floor 10

frozen meadow
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i didnt