td2-general-chat

[bitter wraith]

61 points not even worth 80% of a cache

[frozen meadow]

wait so you died too then

[bitter wraith]

Yep full red build obliterated in seconds since there was no one else left for the enemies to focus on

[frozen meadow]

why are you running full red

[bitter wraith]

It's destructive

[fervent berry]

I run my full red rifle build on CD and I don't generally have issues until my team dies around me and I have nowhere to go because i slapped PGC on my chest

[quick tendon]

Thank you! Not sure what happened. Some random person joined me when I was doing stuff. 😮

[frozen meadow]

to you

[bitter wraith]

21 scavenging points what should I get

[bitter wraith]

Works both ways I guess ☠️

[frozen meadow]

i run 4 red 2 blue

still do a ton of dmg

[bitter wraith]

We like to add a bit more P O W E R

[frozen meadow]

makes my shield not paper

and when running the striker shield the blues give me more damage

[bitter wraith]

Maybe I should throw on striker set then

[frozen meadow]

not the set the shield

[bitter wraith]

Yh but my set gives more armour

Than umbra

[fervent berry]

To be fair, paper beats rock so you're OP enough already

[fervent berry]

It should be easy enough to gain your Striker stacks quickly presuming you have an ACS shotty. That'll be a great start

[frozen meadow]

seriously 1.4 mil a shot with 2 blues on a famas is good lol

[azure lintel]

what ?? i do like 400 500k

[frozen meadow]

skill issue

i primarily run OD for countdown tho

[reef reef]

Work on your build. Heroic is obviously too hard for you right now, challenging should be much easier and allow you to complete missions.

[frozen meadow]

i run a ksg that hits 1.2 a pellet

[bitter wraith]

Leaving during countdown shouldn't be allowed

[azure lintel]

yeah fuck this shit im doing hard or challenging

[bitter wraith]

Nvm umbra better

[frozen meadow]

umbra does less damage than striker

[bitter wraith]

Not necessarily

[frozen meadow]

no it does lol

[lean ingot]

Any idea why my division 2 is crashing when I try to go to DC

[frozen meadow]

did you finish wony

[smoky meteor]

I legit think this stupid Classified Mission is gonna give me a mental breakdown... The Silver Lounge doors won't open... And I can hear the audio log behind it... Lemme in!

[frozen meadow]

oh god good luck, i hated that one

youll be there for a few hours

[smoky meteor]

I know there is like code nonsense here too... And I should really care about that. But I just want the Audio Log for the collection.

[frozen meadow]

yeah you need to do that for the log

[sturdy cape]

@smoky meteor youtube has detailed walk-thrus if you're interested

[frozen meadow]

even they dont help that much

[sturdy cape]

that wasn't my experience. i found step by step guides to find all logs/collectibles etc. was easy

[frozen meadow]

the night club one?

[sweet star]

Time to do moths fuckin Anderson dudes

[sturdy cape]

all of them, was a while ago but i remember 100%'ing them all

[frozen meadow]

night club was the worst

[sweet star]

Time to farm Anderson all day for exotics

[sturdy cape]

didn't anderson's exotic drops get changed?

[frozen meadow]

no

[surreal orbit]

See you in a few minutes then… lol jk

[tender wave]

Iirc, you need to find the little rows of strip lights (5 in a row, only one lit up) and shoot the yellow boxes nearby, but you also need to note the order (which one of the lights is lit up in each place) and then press the buttons in that order in the control room.

[sweet star]

Lol

[sweet star]

Oddly no one matchmaking for challenging eh

[frozen meadow]

not odd

[sweet star]

I thought challenging always gets peeps

[frozen meadow]

very rare to find that

[sweet star]

Sall good I moved it to normal anyway

[frozen meadow]

normally heroic

[sweet star]

Why?

Can’t you get exotics at any lvl with Anderson?

[tender wave]

Damnit I just trod on freshly cooked pasta

[frozen meadow]

they dont take much longer depending on difficulty

[sturdy cape]

normal for quick farming, heroic for peeps that want a challenge

[frozen meadow]

each difficulty doesnt take that much longer

[sweet star]

Going in solo boys

[surreal orbit]

That’s the spirit!

[frozen meadow]

first time i did anderson was heroic, the random i was with literally just said it was so hard and difficult and id have a hard time doing it then left the group

lmfaoooo\

[sweet star]

Ah this basically the cd map

[surreal orbit]

Yup

[frozen meadow]

not basically, it is

[coral igloo]

Killed keener in 4 hours of the dlc

[frozen meadow]

nice

not bad

[coral igloo]

Now to get on to the manhunts

[surreal orbit]

Need to up your season level. Previous manhunt missions are rewards at certain levels. See the rewards track.

[coral igloo]

Is dread edict any good?

[azure lintel]

No not really

[sweet star]

Just finished Anderson mission n my screen won’t black..

I just finished Anderson/ the manhunt but no exotic..aren’t you suppose to get exotics ?

Nvm I got doctor home

I guess I keep playing again to get more exotics

[gaunt cliff]

i havent played this game since TU2, is it still populated on PC?

[gusty dove]

it is yeah

most are in endgame though

[gaunt cliff]

are people still able to help new guys get gear? I remember back in the day people were able to run strongholds and drop the loot they pick up

[bitter wraith]

Erm is it worth running WONY 12 times over a 2 ish week time knowing that I can then spend about 40 million credits I get from the total accumulated amount of 4064 scavenging points all on printer filament mods, deconstructing ALL of them for printer filament and then using all that filament on expertise?

12 WONY runs is up to 3 weeks for me

[gusty dove]

if you have the dlc, you can do countdown and select targeted loot

[sweet star]

Anyone wanna farm Anderson normal for exotic farm

[bitter wraith]

What's the best build for WONY all red unbra or 4 red 2 blue striker?

[gaunt cliff]

thanks, i remember playing in wony but it was super buggy then ill look around ^^

[timber hatch]

HH, regulus, and memento

30/31

[bitter wraith]

Could that one shot bosses?

[timber hatch]

Yes

[bitter wraith]

Even keener on story difficulty?

[smoky stag]

nothing to build stacks on

[bitter wraith]

Why memento though? What about dodge city?

[smoky stag]

swap out your mento for DCH

[bitter wraith]

Was going to say that lol

[surreal orbit]

Level 30/31 right?

[coral igloo]

Sweet dreams gotta be one of the goofiest exotics

[timber hatch]

You don't need DCH of story mode

[smoky stag]

Memento is a good option still for the survivability

[bitter wraith]

Is there a limit to how many scavenging points you can hold or to how many characters you can have at once?

[smoky stag]

your SHD level minus 800 to assign first to your watch stats on as many as 4 total characters

spending on one char is limited to that char only and doesnt affect points o the others. gain (level up) however is account wide (all characters)

[bitter wraith]

So if my level is 1150 then 350 points?

I got 349 a different way

I have like 4 characters and need another 12

[surreal orbit]

In 4-5 hours?

[bitter wraith]

Wdym

[surreal orbit]

Takes 4-5 hours to run through wony.

[frozen meadow]

400

wait

nvm u rite lol im mistaken

[smoky stag]

with a group of carries you can do it in an hour or less

[surreal orbit]

True, solo is 4-5 hours

[bitter wraith]

What about solo one shotting almost everything

[frozen meadow]

not 4-5

id say 2:30-3:30

[surreal orbit]

Maybe I’m just slow or something…,

[bitter wraith]

So since its 350 points I will need about 12 runs

[frozen meadow]

or im just quick :p

[smoky stag]

12 runs of wony?

[bitter wraith]

Yes

[smoky stag]

for?

[frozen meadow]

honestly a wony run aint worth it if youre <2000

imo at least

[smoky stag]

no thats about right

[bitter wraith]

Idk even solo doing 12 is a bit tedious but doing countdown several hundreds of times is way worse

[bitter wraith]

About 260k filament

[frozen meadow]

are you gonna accept that expertise aint easy to get

[bitter wraith]

Using credits

[bitter wraith]

Yeah that's why I'm thinking WONY

[frozen meadow]

wont make it any more easier tbh

i get a few hundo every run of CD anyways

[smoky stag]

at your level, countdown farming mods to decon will go much quicker

[bitter wraith]

Why not? Doing it with a one shot build can't be that hard...right?

[frozen meadow]

how tf you gonna get a one shot build in a new character

[coral igloo]

Went from 200k armour to 1.3m lol i feel overpowered

[frozen meadow]

also no lol

[bitter wraith]

But I have to do it roughly another 2200 times ☠️

[frozen meadow]

i get around 200 per run so

[bitter wraith]

Stash transfer

[frozen meadow]

you cant equip level 40 items at 31-39

[bitter wraith]

Oh wait doesn't it boost to 30

Not 40??

[smoky stag]

level 30 regulus, memento, and gear

[frozen meadow]

still wouldnt speed much up imo

[plush otter]

even if you want to do it without a set group, do call for backups, the way that lvl scaling and xp rewards work, it will mean that you do not have to do any side stuff, only the required missions and side missions, it cuts down allot on the time per run

[bitter wraith]

That's still like over 1000 runs

[rich shadow]

Obviously not used that build then

[frozen meadow]

mate ive done multiple wony runs i know what does and doesnt work

[rich shadow]

Mate, then you'll know that speed runners use that build for a reason

[smoky stag]

raucey recommended that for that reason

[frozen meadow]

why are people speedrunning wony 💀

i dont trust raucey with any recommendations tbh lmfao

[smoky stag]

faster completion means more time to do it again

[rich shadow]

They're not doing it for the lulz

[bitter wraith]

It's either continue with spamming filament countdown runs and get about 150 to 170 each time so do it another 1000+ times for what seems like forever or do WONY 12 times and spam buy filament again and again 40k times

[frozen meadow]

i think the exotic payout + constant point gain makes it worth it long-term

[bitter wraith]

Ngl I use the points for more named caches to speed it up a bit. Once I run out of non dz named items I'll switch to exotics if I don't use wony

It's really tedious with a chance of fail and crashing as well

[frozen meadow]

i almost never crash

[bitter wraith]

I do every 4 ish runs

[frozen meadow]

eesh

[bitter wraith]

4 to 7

[frozen meadow]

i crash like twice a week

max

[bitter wraith]

260k filament so yeah that's like over 1k countdowns rip to my soul

[rich shadow]

Ikr, imagine doing all that work in your spare time creating a guide for others and some random dude joins the server and doesn't trust his advice.

[frozen meadow]

but you also get a lot of item drops

[frozen meadow]

im not causing drama here

[bitter wraith]

Less and less likely to be useful towards expertise over time though

[frozen meadow]

but its still a lot in the long run

[bitter wraith]

Plus what if I fail like 10 times in a row

[bitter wraith]

True

[frozen meadow]

you still get items even if you dont extracty yknow

[bitter wraith]

You get like 2 named if you don't

[smoky meteor]

Okay, now Summit is being rude. I keep finding the Summit Chests without having found a key so far.

[bitter wraith]

And like 12 - 24 if you do

[rich shadow]

Too right

[smoky stag]

what are you spending 220k filament s on proficiency for? DZ exclusives?

[bitter wraith]

Everything left

Literally EVERYTHING

[frozen meadow]

you can also use the items while doing countdown

[smoky stag]

all brands, all gearset done?

[bitter wraith]

Except yaahl and SC yes

[smoky stag]

guns? how many left?

[frozen meadow]

so thats skills and guns and specs

[frozen meadow]

meant to reply to this

[smoky stag]

skills and spec weaps you can just proficient by equipping them. dont even need to use it

[bitter wraith]

At least 40

[frozen meadow]

then get those lol

do what i suggested

[bitter wraith]

Lol I'll try

3500 kills for each ☠️

2500 even

[rich shadow]

Try? Just go do it. Farm that sheet

Hand the guns in

[bitter wraith]

It's annoying how they nerfed the first 3 hunters

Rip named item farmers

Although makes sense why

[smoky stag]

*4

[rich shadow]

It was annoying that people join countdown purely for themselves and leave after the first three hunters

[bitter wraith]

There's 4? 👀

[rich shadow]

4* 😂🤣

[frozen meadow]

yes theres four

[smoky stag]

2 in the middle

[bitter wraith]

True

I've been spamming countdown a LOT since May and never knew there was 4

[frozen meadow]

he does challenging .-.

[bitter wraith]

Just assumed 3 and let everyone else kill them

[smoky stag]

are there fewer hunters in challenging??

[frozen meadow]

maybe idk

[bitter wraith]

1 less maybe

[rich shadow]

Nah, they're just weaker

[bitter wraith]

I only do it because people can't seem to ever be able to make a dent in the enemeies

[smoky stag]

nope its always been 4.
1 for each countermeasure and 1 extra by the reactor

[frozen meadow]

if youre expecting expertise to solve that, it wont

[rich shadow]

Just run HH HF Regulus and carry

[frozen meadow]

doesnt work very well in cd

just sayin

[rich shadow]

You're right, but he's only running countdown for expertise

[frozen meadow]

you said carry

[rich shadow]

Expertise is overrated

Just carry in missions open world

[frozen meadow]

i already said that like 10 times

then why tf did you suggest it for countdown

[rich shadow]

I didnt

[frozen meadow]

then dont suggest open world missions for expertise lol

thats one of the slowest ways to do it

[rich shadow]

I was suggesting that he doesn't concentrate on expertise at all, and just kick ass without it

Let it slowly sort itself out in the background

[frozen meadow]

im just going to suggest you dont tell someone to ditch what their working on

dude a hunter hjust climbed through the window of locked admin now we cant get him 💀

[rich shadow]

As long as you're happy to grind, then go for it. Just don't burn out baby @bitter wraith

[frozen meadow]

please dont call me baby

[rich shadow]

I wasn't talking to you

[surreal orbit]

Lmao

[frozen meadow]

just left the group

[coral igloo]

Im doing the lucky bounty hunt mission at the air space museum on challenging and i stg i have never played a harder mission

[rich shadow]

They are pretty tough those manhunt missions.

[gaunt cliff]

huh i had eagle bearer before i quit the game... now its not in my inventory or stash

[deep blaze]

hmmm how many reinforcement waves does a warhound convoy have, asking for a friend

[rich shadow]

2 I believe

[deep blaze]

ah so

I'm auto running away because I upset a nearby CP too, but wave number 22 just exited the truck

[frozen meadow]

was it spring of last year that you obtained it

[deep blaze]

I think they forgot

[rich shadow]

Depends though. If you're spawn camping it can go on for aaaaaages

[coral igloo]

Sweet dreams a good exotic?

[gaunt cliff]

I got it during WONY release? probably over 2 years ago

did they wipe the game?

[frozen meadow]

no

you mighta deconned it and forgot

i deconned all my lvl 30s

[frozen meadow]

not for damage

[deep blaze]

last wave was wave #24, it seemed they stopped now that I ran away a bit and stopped spawn killing them, haven't experienced this yet with them lmao

[vocal cliff]

for global event challenges with 'melee kill X enemies' it's great lmao

[rich shadow]

I think it happens when there's a robot that's still alive, but you kill all the other dudes

The game just continues to spawn reinforcement

[deep blaze]

Initial robot was first thing I killed, didn't see another come out of the truck but who knows maybe one went hiding and lil Spot just ran away never to be seen

off to live on a farm house

[rich shadow]

Lol

[frozen meadow]

mighta been a drone under the map tbh tbh

[deep blaze]

yeah that's a good point actually, occasionally see some fall through the map if it gets very hectic at spawn

[frozen meadow]

i had an emp jammer under the map by like 30m once

[deep blaze]

Also I heard it might have some niche use for certain medic builds to deal with a red/purple rusher/flanker that you might not have any damage for, but that depends on how/what fits in your build

[frozen meadow]

scorpio better for medics

[deep blaze]

I thought so too, that's why I never used it yet

I felt like that'd bring more use for that

[frozen meadow]

sweet dreams was used before scorpio existed

it was also used early on in IH boss 1

[deep blaze]

Oh that makes sense, perhaps it's some old relic that stayed around in some builds and is still occasionally mentioned

[frozen meadow]

thats what happened to the merciless too

the merciless was once stupendously op because it blasted THROUGH the armour of heavies

[deep blaze]

Seems like just relegated to the melee X enemies stuff then, great for that

[frozen meadow]

everyone had one for DH

[timber hatch]

Well the merciless was just straight up OP lol

[deep blaze]

Oh that's neat, I found it a bit sad that I found no use for it, doesn't seem like it synergises much with builds really

[frozen meadow]

it used to be really coolk

[coral igloo]

What are best dps gear sets ( i have wony now! )

[rich shadow]

It's not bad for melee kill challenges I guess...

[deep blaze]

I think it was the first exotic weapon drop for me while levelling and the idea was cool

[frozen meadow]

striker or hf

[deep blaze]

oh hihi I replied about merciless

[rich shadow]

Merciless is sadly pants these days

[deep blaze]

but yea that's exactly what I use sweet dreams for, otherwise away it goes

luckily it only drops like 5 times a day

[frozen meadow]

a lot of the game's starter exotics became just collectors junk

actually all of them did

[deep blaze]

you should be able to shove it into the complimentary acosta's bag you get once an hour, so they take less inventory space before you get to scrap them

[timber hatch]

BTSU gloves are still one of the most useful

[rich shadow]

Exotics, and named items are really hit or miss.

[frozen meadow]

motherly love 💀

[cloud sage]

What do you guys think about Negotiator's Dilemma? With the backpack talent it's 100% damage on 3 different enemies. Very useful if some takes cover, you can just swap to another target and keep damaging the one ducking.

[frozen meadow]

only good in specific scenarios imo

[deep blaze]

it's my favourite go-to set usually, very flexible for open world/HC content

[rich shadow]

It's a great gearset

[smoky stag]

one of the best sets in the game
has use on everything PVE

[frozen meadow]

i dont like ND

[deep blaze]

no ramp-up, great at all ranges, no need for stacks/high RPM stuff, so quite flexible

[cloud sage]

I recently returned to TD2 after a couple of years and instantly fell for ND set.

[deep blaze]

helps with some stuff that goes off to cover in narnia in open world

[rich shadow]

I don't like Adele but she can sing

[timber hatch]

It's one of the best sets in the game, but the backpack isn't as strong as you think

[frozen meadow]

it just caused an erratic playstyle

because you have to hit multiple targets

[deep blaze]

yeah it's definitely something you love or hate

[frozen meadow]

since you dont gain direct dmg from the gearset

[cloud sage]

What does that even mean?

[frozen meadow]

yeah i hate it lol

[deep blaze]

I really like that mechanic and got used to it

had to unlearn it when using other sets lmao

[frozen meadow]

you have to hit multiple enemies for it to become useful. if you spend too long on one target, the others will be killed by teammates. you need to hit multiple enemies in quick succession for it to be of any use, and it doesnt have that large of a damage output that way

[rich shadow]

Yea it does require a bit of time to adjust

[frozen meadow]

the more competent your teammates are, the less useful it becomes

same with memento

[deep blaze]

I used it without its backpack for a bit with memento or vigilance where it sacrifices some of the AoE but does more on ST (I think a decent uplift on ST, around same on 2 targets, behind on 3 targets)

[cloud sage]

It's bam, bam, bam on three different enemies. Then burst one of them down and the other two goes too.

[frozen meadow]

assuming you can hit three different enemies in that quick of succession that are standing right next to each other

[deep blaze]

but I pretty much only use it with its backpack now since that's its main strength and I felt like if I'm not using the backpack fully, I might as well as not run ND in that situation

[cloud sage]

It's okay to dislike it though, I promise.

[deep blaze]

I find it's just as easy to flick around anywhere they are on the map

[cloud sage]

They don't have to stand next to eachother at all.

[frozen meadow]

isnt that just called spray and pray

[deep blaze]

what I love about it is you can literally just land a shot on an enemy in extremely narnia, or 180 degrees away from me

[cloud sage]

You're just being silly.

[deep blaze]

spray and pray would be inaccurate I think, I'm talking just hitting 2-3 enemies once to get the mark

but I love how you can just shoot like 1-2 shots on an enemy that can be in narnia, like suuuuper far away, and then you can unload into an enemy close by and that far away enemy dies just as quick, without damage fall-off

[frozen meadow]

i just think the damage output would be lower than optimal because you dont gain any actual damage per shot from the set

[reef reef]

i mean, you technically do

since your damage is shared per

[frozen meadow]

you know what i mean -.-

[cloud sage]

It's like a 300% damage increase if you use it right when there's multiple enemies. 3 times faster TTK.

[deep blaze]

well I'd say it's not quite 300% because your single target is a lot lower

[rich shadow]

One thing ND is great for, is negating flanks. I use it on my HC character d it has saved me on occasion. Just tag the guy who is flanking you and kill him through the passive damage

[frozen meadow]

exactly. so, as i put earlier, the more competent your teammates are the less damage you do

[deep blaze]

like a regular body shot if I compare real quick with ND set vs high end (which is kind of as good as it gets without anything ramping up as a very generic comparison) is like 30-40% lower

but I think it's not bad when you're using it all the time on 3 targets, you're doing more damage than a regular high end DPS set then

[frozen meadow]

the problem is if you have teammates that are killing enemies quickly, you cant do anything with ND because youre losing your marks quickly

[deep blaze]

I never felt that, that just means you get more CHD from marks dying

[timber hatch]

This is nonsense lol

[deep blaze]

you have to be dynamic and keep marking more targets, it's instant, it's not like you need to build up X amount of stacks on a target so that's nice and convenient

[cloud sage]

Well the mark stays on for 20 seconds. That's quite a long time and most enemies should be dead after being shot at for 20 seconds.

[rich shadow]

What you mean is, the better your teamates are than you, the worse you do

[deep blaze]

I actually find it more tough to make sure to not over mark and spread out too much, like shooting 5+ targets because it doesn't get better after 3

[frozen meadow]

the enemy should die in less than 20 seconds by a teammate

[frozen meadow]

yeah exactly

[cloud sage]

Yes? Are you usually this pointlessly argumentative?

[surreal orbit]

Yes

🤣😆😂

[frozen meadow]

the quicker a teammate kills a marked target, the less damage you do because you arent hitting any additional targets at that point

[reef reef]

play nice

[cloud sage]

Thought so 😄

[frozen meadow]

maybe theres some miscommunication going on

[cloud sage]

I don't know, I just like the ND set and was curious about others opinions. We all have different playstyles and like to deal with situations differently in-game.

[frozen meadow]

yeah i personally just despise it lol

[smoky stag]

*runs with 2 other competent or better players runnning negos

[frozen meadow]

i dont think marks are shared between players

[surreal orbit]

I like it as well.

[sweet star]

Finally got Scorpio boys hawtttt dayum

[rich shadow]

If you run ND set, and the rest of your team run standard red dps, you should be getting higher damage stats at the end of the mission.

[deep blaze]

I think it has a lot of fun factor (in case you like it)

[smoky stag]

its not

[sweet star]

Now all I need is memento

[rich shadow]

Yes boi

[frozen meadow]

id disagree

[sweet star]

Nam sayinn

[rich shadow]

I'm up for the test.

[smoky stag]

almost everytime in DUA, Roosevelt

[deep blaze]

And I think it's also decent at a somewhat supportive playstyle where you fall behind on single target damage so eliminating a key target is slower which can be dangerous, but you can eliminate things very far away and hiding behind cover, stuff that all other players would do less damage to than you because they have things like damage fall-off

I think it should have higher damage in total than say a high end DPS set, because it's kind of padding damage (when used optimally)

[frozen meadow]

i mentioned earlier i find it very situational. its not useless, just proprietary

[deep blaze]

but your damage might not be as crucial at times, i.e. referring back to being slower at killing a key target fast

[rich shadow]

It does

[deep blaze]

In a lot of MMOs is what you'd call it a padding build lmao

which has some decent use to do grunt work total damage, but sometimes not what you need because you just need X target to die ASAP and focus fire to get them down otherwise you're in big trouble

[deep blaze]

yeah I agree too, and on lower content (like non legendary missions and stuff) luckily it doesn't matter either way and if you like the mechanic, it's quite flexible

[frozen meadow]

mhm

[deep blaze]

I grew a bit too fond of it, and actually forced myself to play a while with strikers and now high end set to get a different perspective with tempo/focus/positioning etc

[rich shadow]

On legendary its a god-send since those drone spammers and grenadiers are not around for long.

[deep blaze]

ND allows you to be quite lazy as you can kill stuff behind cover and far away

[frozen meadow]

But the dogs are

[rich shadow]

Actually the dogs are ND's favourite since they're quite tanky, allowing you to use them as the conduit for the tagged dudes

[deep blaze]

Also I think on legendary it has a bit of an uplift in that the damage split is based on the target you're shooting so you can mark some drone controllers/medics/snipers etc in the far back who're super far away and/or in cover (and thus others can't even shoot them, or do a lot less to them because of fall-off) and you just unload into a doggo with an AR and all that juicy short range health damage bonus gets duplicated into those other targets at full value too

[smoky stag]

dogs die fast too

[deep blaze]

yeah exactly, you kind of increase your damage to other targets doing that no?

[rich shadow]

Exactly

[frozen meadow]

We aren't gonna see face to face on this I don't think

[rich shadow]

2 dead npc's and a dead dog

[deep blaze]

when I shoot the dogs I see the same number pop up 2 more times so I'm pretty sure I'm at that point basically doing the tech's 12% robotics damage increase + health damage to them

[rich shadow]

It's OK to be wrong

[frozen meadow]

That's just rude

[smoky stag]

simple solution. lets all login and do DUA/Roosevelt

[deep blaze]

I think an ND has a pretty good value in a team, but if you have too many you could perhaps get in a situation where you lack focus damage or boss damage, but perhaps that's not a big enough downfall (since I've also heard 3 NDs + 1 CC is pretty great in legendaries, but at least for a boss I suppose swapping to like strikers is better)

[cloud sage]

From one thing to another, do people run the raids through matchmaker and finish them successfully these days? I haven't tried that yet but I'm getting bored of spamming Countdown so I need a change of pace.

[rich shadow]

I'm wrong sometimes too

[frozen meadow]

You can't matchmake normal mode raids

[timber hatch]

Want to go test?

[smoky stag]

im down. I'll even CC

[cloud sage]

Ah okay, thanks. I'll just finish it storymode then and see if I can join a raid at some point.

[frozen meadow]

Don't do discovery raids pls

The mechanics are so bad that it's actually more harmful to understand them than not

[deep blaze]

I honestly don't know how a non ND would out damage an ND unless they're like...not shooting/marking properly, since you just have an upper hand for majority of the time as there's almost always 3+ targets, and only at end of combat do you get down to just a couple who're quick to die off (excluding bosses)
But all that damage isn't always necessarily useful, just helps with the overall speed

[frozen meadow]

Let's just drop the ND topic

It's just causing drama at this point

[timber hatch]

It's just you man lol

[cloud sage]

I don't need to do it on Discovery mode first?

[rich shadow]

Drama follows you. But seriously, ND is one of the best gearsets in the game.

[frozen meadow]

No you don't

[cloud sage]

Even if I don't, what's the harm in doing it easymode mechanics. I'll adapt to how the actual mechanics are on other modes.

[deep blaze]

I think some points got brought up that were interesting but I want to respect you wanting to drop it, I didn't intend to push it onto you or anything and I think as you said, if you don't like it, the non-fun factor is very important in this game to just not use it

[frozen meadow]

It's because the mechanics are actually like, not mechanics

They dumbed down the mechanics so hard that you actually learn less

[rich shadow]

Hunters fury, ND, Strikers. Great gearsets

[cloud sage]

Well then they're not mechanics and when you do it on other modes it's mechanics. What's the harm?

[frozen meadow]

Like half the raid is there basically

[frozen meadow]

It's the concept of -1 is less than 0

[cloud sage]

I'll do it on Discovery mode now!

[frozen meadow]

The mechanics it says are changed to make it easier, but altered to the point that it's actually a problem

[rich shadow]

😂

[frozen meadow]

And they just straight up remove some mechanics

[low flame]

The harm is you’ll be expecting the discovery mechanics when doing the actual raid when the actual mechanics are different

[frozen meadow]

Significantly different

[cloud sage]

Okay, so if I do a raid on Discovery mode first, my ability to adapt to added mechanics is forever screwed! Gotcha 🙂

[smoky stag]

discovery should only ever be done for shenanigans after you're done with the normal one

[low flame]

Discovery mode is a waste of time

[elfin hazel]

for a FTC I really dont think it matters much since as long as the host is doing their job will tell them whats different n what not

[deep blaze]

Yeah that's a classic one, lot of lowest difficulty (like LFR) raids in MMOs just have almost none of the mechanics or not at a difficulty you'd really learn from it

I think they have some use to run through first time to perhaps see the location, so you're a bit visually introduced to the lay-out and stuff

[elfin hazel]

they'd just be put in the easy spots for a FTC anyways

[frozen meadow]

I've done multiple teaching raids. It's harder to teach a discovery player than a FTC

[frozen meadow]

Because you won't expect what you're getting from a full raid

[cloud sage]

My sole aim will be to become a Discovery raider then.

[frozen meadow]

Yikes

[reef reef]

this bit is no longer funny

[deep blaze]

Don't forget the hardest mechanic of the game is still present in discovery mode, the game crashing

[rich shadow]

You're not here to moderate on comedy

[smoky stag]

@warm minnow

sorry for the ping but was too tempting

[deep blaze]

I want a chest talent that makes it so that your game can't crash when worn, instant BiS
they could call it like Embraced or something

[frozen meadow]

What's BiS stand for

[cloud sage]

You can ping me all day. I don't mind.

[reef reef]

I wasnt moderating, not deleting anything or the like. Just commenting on the bit.

[rich shadow]

Untouchable

[deep blaze]

best in slot, like a best item in that slot you can farm for

[frozen meadow]

Ah

[low flame]

Just don’t do the discovery mode. You get no loot you get expectations for the actual raid that you shouldn’t have you get practically zero benefit, only disadvantages. It is much better to use the lfg channels here to do the actual raid than to matchmake a discovery match

[frozen meadow]

^

It'll hurt more to do a discovery because it'll change your expectations of the full thing for the worse

[cloud sage]

Alright, alright, I thank you for your advice and I was merely joking 🙂

[frozen meadow]

I don't take trolling lightly

[deep blaze]

feels like it'd have little value just from the fact it's random matchmaking, with any mode that means you have either people running around like headless chicken not knowing what to do, or wanting to be carried, or people who know what's up but are grumpy and expect everyone to know it too, so it's not a good teaching moment

[cloud sage]

Is this a joke?

[rich shadow]

Wtf

[rich shadow]

Sadly I think not.

[low flame]

When someone says they’ll do discovery mode it is an instant red flag for me. We are here to help people and that is my full intent, so I don’t come in expecting trolling other than when it is clearly obvious

[frozen meadow]

^

[cloud sage]

You guys kinda lost me. Sorry but it's just getting weird. Back to the game for me.

[rich shadow]

This is the Internet

[frozen meadow]

Just don't troll and we won't have an issue

[rich shadow]

🤦‍♂️

[elfin hazel]

I think you take the game a bit too seriously eevee

[gusty dove]

^

[frozen meadow]

I'd rather not get into this at the moment, just know I don't

[cloud sage]

I can't possibly say anything further on this without feeding an unnecessary argument. Gonna play the game now, stop trying to bait drama please.

[frozen meadow]

I'm not trying to bait drama

But I will drop it

[timber hatch]

Your doing a pretty good job despite that

[low flame]

Yeah I think it’s best to close it up here. You understand to not do discovery mode and that is the most important thing. Add that to the list of people I helped today

[rich shadow]

There's a list?

[low flame]

Nah just joking

[cloud sage]

Yep! Thanks for the advice, I didn't know the difference between the types 🙂

[rich shadow]

TROLL!!!

[cloud sage]

hides

[merry zinc]

this raucey guys is just too combative needs a warning

[surreal orbit]

Damn it Raucey! Stop being right all the time!!

[reef reef]

no

[inland garden]

what do i do after I hit 40 now? Ive just started playing the game on PC for the first time but theres so many things lol

nvm found the NPR channel

[mossy portal]

yo on xbox every time i move to the east side of the map with my cursor it crashes to "deaktop"

[vocal cliff]

Noe you can finally work towards a build xD you pretty much have all the content to chose from now :)
What's an NPR channel?

[inland garden]

new player resources lol

it didnt help very much cuz im not new but im new to end game 😂

[low flame]

You’re going to need a build if you want to get anywhere in end game. I suggest looking at the builds and building off of them in the spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice which has builds that have been tested and is regularly updated

[mossy portal]

like every time i get close to the raid pentagon area of map it just quits all the way out. i was just wanting to change my loot grind thing and do a count down

[mossy portal]

i second this

[inland garden]

thank you

[glad venture]

is there a list of what exotic items r in the exotic cache?

[warm minnow]

🤣

[plush otter]

not a specific list of that, but in this sheet you can look under the exotic drop locations and chanches tab, all the green stuff is in there for a lvl 40 character, all the yellow stuff either need you to do something before its added to your exotic pool, or isnt available from caches, it will state it if it is
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTJEX5DerCvOj3a_m36TRy1gPBAUvrduOIdmXI9j1Y0MpQk1wIXaZ9KOcPa7HzXzp_N5qGmjDj6yEfL/pubhtml#

[hexed patio]

anyone know if there is a way to make ammo counter and health bar and all that show all the time

[cloud sage]

Settings > Gameplay > Autohide HUD Off

[plucky apex]

is countdown like the most efficient way of getting a bunch of gear in the shortest amount of time>

[cloud sage]

Sadly yeah, gets a bit repetitive.

[inland garden]

got a chameleon from my first bounty

[cloud sage]

I'd suggest don't stare yourself too blindly on min/maxing and enjoy the game as a whole and disregard things like the expertise system.

[inland garden]

are "rare" named drops common?

[cloud sage]

Unless you have no life of course.

[cloud sage]

Yeah, I'd say they are once you hit lvl 40 and start doing content on challenging or above.

[plucky apex]

is it better to do countdown targeted or mission targeted for an exotic

[cloud sage]

That's beyond my knowledge but I would assume it's better to do countdown since the sheer amount of drops is insane there. It's basically just a dumb loot pinata put there by the devs to keep players hooked beyond adding any actual content.

[hexed patio]

Thank you!

[cloud sage]

Np mate, I'd like to have it visible at all times too but I found that if you're not actively aiming it's just distorted and wonky when looking in different angles.

[placid shadow]

steam forums be really funny tho

90% people tak about the crashing issue

can't wait for the reviews

[placid shadow]

countdown killed all the other content unless you want specific exotics, it's sad that all that work is wasted now since people who play to farm stuff play countdown most of the time

[sweet star]

Anyone here runs pvp a lot?

@azure lintel how’s your dz build actually do? Do u solo?

[woeful ether]

i was just about to ask about the crash issue if it's fixed , but saw some comments , didn't even have to scroll up haha

[gilded perch]

?

[azure lintel]

Yes I solo alot

You can also swap the chest piece for the "everyday carrier" named chest

[sweet star]

@azure lintel what skills are you using? I see your primary is famas. Do u switch to secondary when it needs reloading a lot or wait it out? Also what’s your secondary again

Guessing famas 2010 is easy to get

[azure lintel]

It will be the same as any other gun, the hard part is getting the attributes

My skills are decoy and emp sticky (you might not have the emp) or a booster hive / scanner pulse

Decoy is good

[oblique sigil]

When does the next season start?

[sweet star]

@azure lintel what you think of the build? The build is shown at 0:11 - https://youtu.be/EAJVSInValo

[dry patio]

anyone farming General Anderson?

[low flame]

#td2-lfg-pc

You were right with the lfg channels but that was div1 and this is the general chat. People will be looking in the lfg channels if they want to play, not the general chat

[gilded perch]

Not good
lacking crit chance

[azure lintel]

That's basically what I'm running

For pvp builds you should stay away from big yters

They always recycle and click bait when they know nothing about pvp

[gilded perch]

He should run ceska instead of second piece of wh

[azure lintel]

That's how I run mine

[low flame]

Stay away from yters in general for builds

[misty heart]

Anyone know a good way to farm mods solo

[sweet star]

True

@azure lintel any tips on how to play pvp? When to use the skill ? I’m guessing aim for head?

[low lily]

Just run PGC if you solo

[sweet star]

What’s that

[low lily]

Perfect glass cannon, if you have decent aim, you can kill a 4 man group solo before they even understand what's going on

[quick tendon]

I would advise against doing so with DMs. That's not a good way to poke the bear.

[sweet star]

@azure lintel how do you make optimist talent work? Do you reload when it’s like at 10 rounds left? I see you mentioned you use that talent

[sweet star]

Is there a build tutorial for it?

[azure lintel]

There is no optimal way

You just shoot

[azure lintel]

You will never survive long enough

As a rogue

[low lily]

I have done enough 100+ manhunt ranks don't worry about me 🤣 also if you run with a team, surviving isn't a problem really anyways, you just need to have 1 good tank player

[gilded perch]

manhunt hunt rank 249:

honestly, i don't know those player you kill alone, how stupid they are, but i pretty sure a ture pvp team, once they got hit or any ambush, they react that, and no one would stay and just let you kill them

[versed shadow]

Suche Raid Gruppe für Raid 2 die mich mal da durchziehen könnten

[misty heart]

What’s DMs I’m new to the game

[low lily]

Yeah you can get those high ranks, if you use some cheese builds, saw enough those ranks 400 when Foundry was broken 🤣🤣

Also majority servers die out after you kill people like 50 times

[sweet star]

Solo wise you’d still recommend pgc? As Vince said won’t I not survive

[tender wave]

Pinging Ubisoft employees is verboten, check the #rules

[quick tendon]

Direct Messages. 😄 (it's a joke, but still, unwise to DM folks)

As for soloing mods, as in weapon/armour mods? Either summit, or targeted zones in the map. if I remember correctly when I played awhile back on the PS5.

The map changes daily, while the Summit is pretty constant unless you change it's settings.

[pallid raft]

Hello everyone, I was looking around for info on open world boss spawn locations, is there a resource for that that I am missing?

[coral igloo]

If i am proficient with my level 30 chameleon am i also proficient with my level 40 chameleon?

[coral igloo]

The division 2 interactive map look it up on google but there is a couple spawns that you should know, south of the white house, south of the demo site control point in downtown east, and south of the capitol building at a water source

[tulip moat]

is it worth it to buy warlord of new york

[pallid raft]

Thanks found it

[coral igloo]

A lot of new content + exotics i bought it yesterday and im having a lot of fun

[vocal cliff]

Probably. Was for me, adds much to the game

[tulip moat]

hmm alright

30 euros for an old game expansion seems much

on playstation

[coral igloo]

Playstation overprice everything still €30 for td1

[quick tendon]

Wasn't it on sale? (either via Ubi or PS winter sale?)

[mint wraith]

Should I buy warlords of New York ultimate edition for $25?
I will be a solo player

[timber hatch]

No.... Especially while your just starting out. On a skill pvp build sure, but bad idea on a gun build like the video you posted

[alpine gale]

hi all is weekly shd rewards bugged not showing exotic cache anymore when i check it

[knotty quail]

You still get it, visual bug

[alpine gale]

ah i seee tks

[low lily]

If you solo then definitely, if you go against a 4 man group and running same build as they, the usual 1.5-1.8ml armor etc you won't even get 1 kill

[low lily]

You can also run spotter tho, myself i have done pvp 2 years with PGC so, i am used to it

[quick tendon]

I bought it from Ubi (didn't want to wait for Steam). To me, personally, it's worthwhile. I didn't use the boost yet (PS5 player, 1800+SHD, took a year break) thus learning how to play all over again. 😄 And realising a LOT of things I got, I will not be able to get (Beta and 1st day player) on the PC. T.T

[coral igloo]

How tf is someone level 18k

[plush otter]

game has been out for 4, shd levels have been part of the game for 3, plenty of people that are pretty high in the shd lvl ranges

its only higher than 30k-ish that it starts to be suspicious, anything under is well within the range of someone that played this game allot since release of wony

as there have been and are exploits that can be used, that is usually the case with 50k+, but also some methods of fast lvling have existed and still exist, that were not perse exploits, but just very grindy

[vocal cliff]

Once I saw a level 41k player o.o

[plush otter]

as a example im 14k and 4k on two accounts, and i havent done much in terms of hard farming shd levels, but i do have more playtime than most and have been active with not many full breaks since wony release

[coral igloo]

Is there any weapons that do more damage to bleeding targets i have ridgeways body armour and i think itd be good

[surreal orbit]

There are higher, much higher

[gilded perch]

Explosive trap (⁠◔⁠‿⁠◔⁠)

[plush otter]

ridgeway can be used as a way to trigger the wicked back talent, and to use a weapon with sadist. its a common staple

[timber hatch]

And even then there's legit players like stellar who's in the 60k+ club, and plenty of legit 30k+ players.

[plush otter]

sadist is really good as a dmg talent and halfway makes up the loss you have because ridgeway doesnt have a dmg talent, its a mid tier setup on pve though

[plush otter]

yeah, i said its suspicious at 30k+, not an outright clear cheater, as i think at this point there are more people at 50k+ that are cheaters, versus the very few that are legit, which kinda sucks. even i have been called a cheater since 10k once in a while in random matchmaking

as a sidenote, you can kinda infer who is and isnt a cheater by dividing their shd lvl with their playtime, you can get that last one from tracker.gg as the ingame on isnt account but characters, some people have 100+ shd per hour which is a little out of the realm of even what floor 10 could have done.

[coral igloo]

Should i get the hunter gear set?

[tender notch]

god yes, one of the best sets in the game

[coral igloo]

Where is it targeted today i can’t find it

I have chest already

[tender notch]

not everything gets a daily targeted loot. so if not today check back tomorrow OR can always do summit/ count down for it

[plush otter]

its on space administration today, its in the lower right corner of the map

[coral igloo]

Ok thanks

[plush otter]

also have a look at the build guide for it, you can get there from #td2-build-advice , its in the spreadsheet in the pinned comments, as you dont want to use the HF gearset chest or backpack, as there are better alternatives, but that guide lays it all out

[coral igloo]

Ok

Does pentco always drop an exotic?

[plush otter]

currently the final manhunt mission of this season is dropping a exo everytime you clear it, it should only give a doctors home for the first clear, but something is broken and it given a random exo each run

[random blaze]

oh.

[plush otter]

you will need to clear the whole manhunt though before you can do and replay that mission, if you havent yet, but that is worth doing before the season ends

[random blaze]

anyone noticed that the game has been crashing a lot lately? Somehow, mine is crashing when fast travelling anywhere

[coral igloo]

I cleared new york and anderson manhunt in like 8 hours 👍

[main delta]

The manhunt also contributes xp to season level, busy little bee is worth getting at 85

[random blaze]

I understand. I got a lot of work cut out for me. (just finished the expansion and working on a build)

[brave hearth]

im stupid or something i wanted to try incendiary turret but i dont understand how to use it lmao

[coral igloo]

Only works when close to enemies

[fair lake]

We were promised to get some FUN activities for holidays, but all I've seen were the same GE with duplicated backpack trophies (such a hard work was done to implement them, I guess). Did I miss something?)

[tender wave]

They literally listed the fun activities in the post: #news-and-announcements message

[fair lake]

That's.... sad(

[coral igloo]

Can pentco drop bullet king

[tender notch]

everything can, its just a normal world drop. best place is summit and countdown

[coral igloo]

Bruh i got a chatter box just after a crafted one

[tender notch]

RNG is rng 😛

[pliant sentinel]

any textiles fans

[tender wave]

ngl, I really like my bamboo bedsheets

[lament mirage]

So umbra out of cover is regen right n in cover is rof n chd ? @tender notch

[tender wave]

that's when the stacks build, but using them is the opposite way round (you only regen while IN cover, and only get the damage buffs OUT of cover)

btw, pinging mods is generally frowned upon

[frozen meadow]

umbra is probs my least fav brandset in the game

[tender wave]

I usually play red builds from cover so it works for me - just have to remember to actually exit cover when shooting. That said, I tried it for a bit then went back to Nego for personal preference.

[frozen meadow]

its way too focused on trying to balance the gearset

if youre not in a situation where you can constantly run and enter cover its useless

[tender wave]

it's a cover shooter, the game is setup so that there is pretty much always cover available

hey Saph

[surreal orbit]

lol

Quick draw

[fiery cloud]

Hey Ikia, Buddha, Raucey, Azurmen32, Kettle,RIRI,Eevee,

[surreal orbit]

Hey Saph

[surreal orbit]

This

[fervent berry]

Need something more like Catharsis but buffs your DPS while out of cover like Umbra but without the stacking

[lament mirage]

Ah Azur is cool with it

[fervent berry]

We don't know that. Maybe Azur has a list of people who have wronged him by pinging 😂

[lament mirage]

Discord in 2023 be like:

[tender wave]

yeah we're just holding & waiting for new content drop, not much happening at the moment

[tender notch]

How dare you!!!! But also what he said lol

[tender notch]

Yup, and your on there 6 times.

[tender wave]

tbh I'm kind of bored with gaming in general, but don't know what else to do with all my free time (and currently suffering from Covid so no energy and can't go out)

[lament mirage]

Mb

[fiery cloud]

@tender wave try mass effect legendary

[tender wave]

got that about 6 months ago, played it all through. Good games.

I've actually got a whole bunch of good games I could play, just can't seem to find the motivation

[tender notch]

😝 also I don't mind pings

[tender notch]

Sorry to hear that, also maybe switch it up. Create a game instead of playing one 🤯

[tender wave]

would have to get competent in a programming language first (although that wouldn't be a bad end in itself)

[tender notch]

010010100

[tender wave]

148?

[lament mirage]

Bruh

Same kinda feel appreciated if someone wanna take the time outta their day to ping a fella like me but I also have discord notifications off so wouldn’t bother me anyway

🥹

[lament mirage]

More offensive n defensive gear would be nice ngl

Like gear that provides both

[tender notch]

looks like someone needs to learn binary (plot twist its me)

[deep rune]

do you have to unlock higher world tiers? or just click up

[reef reef]

you have to complete the strongholds to go up

[fervent berry]

Could be a signed integer with that leading 0

[hollow vigil]

is countdown the best for getting a set together

[tender notch]

count AND summit are both the best, just kinda depends

[hollow vigil]

i just reached level 40 so i guess im trying to figure out what to do next

i feel like my guns and gear arent the best rn

[tender wave]

wouldn't it still be 148 even so? The leading 0 indicating it's positive?

[hallow orbit]

When am i geared enough to go heroic difficulty N

I got my 4 set + exotic weapon, is that enough ?

[tender notch]

this says nothing about the build quality. TLDR you want a decent/good build before going to heroic.

[hallow orbit]

Its 4 strikers pieces + chameleon

Im trying to get an exotic mask rn

Coyote one

[deep rune]

is there a good status effect build?

[surreal orbit]

See pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice

[tender wave]

'give it a try' would be the easiest way to find out. There's a large playstyle factor as well as build quality to success in heroic.

if you try and get stomped, doesn't really matter that much after all

[lament mirage]

Kinda yea also it’s less boring than summit n u can get quite a bit of named items n other stuff from it vs summit where u only get loot

[hollow vigil]

and when i pick the loot i want what should i go with exactly

theres differents sets, guns etc

[lament mirage]

You’ll get more loot in a shorter period of time in 2 countdown runs then you’ll get farming 20+ floors in summit

[surreal orbit]

See pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice and look for something that might fit your play style

[hollow vigil]

im gonna get back to running countdowns then lol

[hollow vigil]

thankfully im already on it

[surreal orbit]

Never been at zero exotic components before… I feel naked… lol

[valid dragon]

Just got to level 30 why tf they hid all the good stuff for this long

[lament mirage]

I’d say for starters prob the first 2 builds u should definitely have in ur arsenal is a standard all red fmj build n a all yellow high end turret + drone one

[hollow vigil]

i have yet to even get a decent red anything

so im gonna keep grinding to see what i can get

[lament mirage]

Those are pretty good to have n the all red dps one will work in all content minus PvP

[hollow vigil]

im not too fond of pvp anyway so no worries

[lament mirage]

Ah cool

[hollow vigil]

most of the time i feel like i deal no dmg to the enemies so yeah i need a real build for sure

[lament mirage]

It’s also good to have for raids

[hollow vigil]

oh okay i will keep it in mind then

as of now i should just grind countdown right?

[lament mirage]

N try getting Scorpio, momento n coyote

[hollow vigil]

what is that

[lament mirage]

Exotics that provide some good qol

[hollow vigil]

oh alright i will see if i can get it

[lament mirage]

Yep till u get a good build going

[hollow vigil]

does countdown drop any exotics?

[lament mirage]

Countdown u can kinda just leech anyway just try not to die so much

[lament mirage]

It can yea

[hollow vigil]

its what i do as of right now lol

[lament mirage]

U can just buy exotic caches tho

[hollow vigil]

and in the targeted loot selection should i pick anything specific

[hollow vigil]

is that for credits or polarity switch thing

[valid dragon]

Yo why is black tusk attacking the division

[lament mirage]

Dunno

[valid dragon]

They said Black tusk is a pmc who worked for the usa right

[tender wave]

they want to be in charge. Division is unlikely to allow that.

[valid dragon]

Won't it be better to work together

[lament mirage]

Countdown has its own currency u get after each clear

[tender wave]

again, Division not going to support that. Division's whole purpose is to support the 'traditional' power structure (presidential line of succession etc). No way they'd work with a power-grabbing shady military group

[lament mirage]

U can use it too buy stuff in the vendor it has

[valid dragon]

Divison 2 remind me of stalker

With the dynamic world

[hollow vigil]

oh i had no idea about this

[lament mirage]

I’d honestly prob buy named caches first tho so u can get all those

Exotics are good tho so up to u

[hollow vigil]

is that season vendor i go to

[lament mirage]

Nah

[hollow vigil]

regular vendor then?

[tender wave]

laptop to the left of the season vendor

[lament mirage]

Should be next to it on the left

[hollow vigil]

oh right i got it

well thanks for all the info limp i really appreciate it as the game can be a bit confusing

[lament mirage]

If u need help farming stuff can always hmu n if I’m on I’ll help 🫡

[lament mirage]

Yea is a bit confusing early game

[hollow vigil]

thats real nice thank you i will let you know

[lament mirage]

Shit I’m still confused on something’s

[hollow vigil]

oh for sure i think thats why i kinda quit the game in the beginning it was just overwhelming and confusing but im here to fully try it

[lament mirage]

But I just came back to it not long ago took a good break after tu15

[hollow vigil]

everything i dont need should i just mark it for recalibration?

[hollow vigil]

i feel that, i can tell this game gets grindy

[lament mirage]

That or junk n donate it for expertise

But building ur recalibration library is nice

[surreal orbit]

In this order

1. Recalibration library
2. Expertise
3. Deconstruct
4. Sell

[hollow vigil]

alright so ive been doing it correctly then

ive gone ahead and done a little recal

had to ask to be sure

[lament mirage]

Expertise is more for endgame anyway when ur shd 1k n got min maxed builds n time to kill n wanna get a bit more outta ur builds

[hollow vigil]

oh yeah then im not even close to that lol

[valid dragon]

Do black tusk take over control point

[lament mirage]

I think so if the control point is in the manhunt thingy

[hollow vigil]

are they in NYC

[lament mirage]

They’ll be black tusk

[valid dragon]

Don't have the dlc

[hollow vigil]

oh then nevermind i guess i will find them

[lament mirage]

Ah then nah it’ll just mostly be true sons , outcast n heyenas

[valid dragon]

Cmon

I wanna see more black tusk

[hollow vigil]

i see some black tusk acitivites

[valid dragon]

They cool as fuck

[lament mirage]

Get dlc

[valid dragon]

It cost money

[lament mirage]

😔

[hollow vigil]

is it fine to just pick assault rifle as targeted loot

[valid dragon]

Well i always got my side job

[sweet star]

How does one get the pgc talent?

[hollow vigil]

the dlc is pretty damn cool tbh get it when you can

[surreal orbit]

Sacrifice named providence chest piece

[lament mirage]

Get the sacrifice chest piece it’s named providence one

[sweet star]

And the providence backpack has perfect vigelance too?

Bless Ty guys

[surreal orbit]

The gift, but its DZ or named item caches

[sweet star]

Shooot. You can’t get it in CD eh?

@surreal orbit what in dz would you have to do in order to have it dropped? Landmarks?

[surreal orbit]

Maybe from the countdown vendor in named item caches. Or may come for sale some day

[sweet star]

Hm alright

[surreal orbit]

Yes, but better from named item caches, because you would have to extract

[surreal orbit]

And would also be better if the DZ was providence targeted loot

[sweet star]

Oh didn’t know you could do that

Ty

[surreal orbit]

Do what? You can’t change targeted loot in DZ

[sweet star]

Knowing my rng bad luck I’d probably have to tskenmy chance in landmarks at DMZ

Oh I read that wrong. I see that was a statement

Yes indeed it would be nice

[lament mirage]

Farming named items in the dz got easier no longer having to extract if it’s the target loot in the dz

[sweet star]

Oh dam nice. It just goes in your inventory?

[lament mirage]

I got another metador the other day n it went straight into my inventory

[sweet star]

@lament mirage I’m guessing the landmark doesn’t matter. All of them drop random named stuff?

Oh nice

[lament mirage]

Rng

[lament mirage]

If it’s not contaminated yea u can just pick it up like any other loot

[sweet star]

Hold up. Even the sacrifice chest I can’t get from targeted loot countdown?

[lament mirage]

U can

It’s not dz exclusive so

It’ll prob wherever

[sweet star]

Ah same as the backpack?

I thought the caches were the only way so it’s dope

[lament mirage]

Nah

[sweet star]

@lament mirage do you know if white death is obtainable in countdown

[lament mirage]

The Gift is dz exclusive or can get it in conflict caches or named ones

[sweet star]

Ah gotcha ty for the clarification

[lament mirage]

Yep

[sweet star]

Need that marksman

Ok bless Ty

[lament mirage]

The gift only shaved off 1 second from the cooldown tho so a regular ceska or providence or grupo bp with vigilance is still good

But 3 seconds vs 4 is kinda noticeable ish

[marble carbon]

Hey everyone! I'm back on this game after a couple of years... anyone want to adventure with me and level up, make friends and what not? DM me!

[surreal orbit]

Level up? Current level?

[marble carbon]

I think 16? I'm not too sure!

[surreal orbit]

Base game? Or have you completed the warlords expansion?

[sweet star]

5 countdowns in a row and no white death 😦

[jade python]

is last manhunt mission soloable on heroic? i have skill build and i struggle.

[surreal orbit]

Targeted loot sniper rifles?

[jade python]

should i try my red build instead?

[surreal orbit]

It is, but the manhunt target bounties and final bounty are harder than most heroic content

[tender wave]

yes, but you need to focus the objectives and ignore the adds as much as you can - probably easiest with a bit of blue and some regen (memento is good)

[sweet star]

Wow I had the wrong thing selected..good call ty

Yeah the manhunt bounties took a minute

[marble carbon]

Base game

[surreal orbit]

Still rng….

[gusty birch]

can someone help me with anderson i’ve done all the sections other than the bosses

[bitter wraith]

If I spend scavenging points on my second character, will the points on my main character be used. Got 25 on my main 79 on my second

[tender wave]

nope

[stiff raft]

so im trying to get nemesis and i have the first part from tidal basin but does capitol building/district union/roosevelt have to be invaded?

[tender wave]

yes, but it will be, just because you have already completed it doesn't mean you can't run it again, just toggle mission mode

[hollow vigil]

btw how does one get black tusk bounties

trying to get that vector exotic

[tender wave]

do black tusk public executions & hostage rescue events

although chameleon I think has an equal chance to drop from any bounties, not specific to black tusk.

[hollow vigil]

alright im gonna give it a go then

thanks

[stiff raft]

i just completed District union on invaded but no Stock dropped for the nemesis any1 know why

is it 100% drop rate or nah

[surreal orbit]

Your sure it was invaded? Black tusk not hyena? And do you have the first part from deconstructing the Adestria?

[stiff raft]

thats what i did wrong i didn't deconstruct the adestria i take it you gotta do that first for them to drop

[surreal orbit]

Yes

Then you’ll see the exotic part in your resources inventory

[stiff raft]

why did they change it this way when i played when released I farmed up the nemesis alot easier then waiting for invaded stuff

[surreal orbit]

Don’t think so, it’s always been this way as far as I know. I’ve been playing since beta…

[stiff raft]

i don't remember having to do the strong holds on invaded for the parts

it was what 2-3 yrs ago though

[surreal orbit]

Then how did you get it?

[stiff raft]

the same way but im saying i dont remember having to wait for them to be invaded

[surreal orbit]

Nah, it’s always had to be invaded. I mean tidal is always invaded and it starts the process… been a pain since day one… it’s a black tusk weapon.

[hollow vigil]

damn, i was grinding the chameleon and this guy who joined through back up straight up just dropped it for me

didnt know the community was this nice

[surreal orbit]

Be sure to do grand Washington invaded after you do district union to get the blueprint. You never know when it will be invaded again….

[unique summit]

Pay it forward! Once you round out your builds if you ever do sheperding with a lower level drop them stuff.

[stiff raft]

ty yea good call

[hollow vigil]

That was my first idea I definitely will

[azure lintel]

any build that is good for solo can dps and tank both ??

[pallid harness]

heartbreaker

[azure lintel]

dont have it

anything else ?? @pallid harness

[surreal orbit]

Damn, all this talk reminded me that I should farm another one so I can deconstruct it for exotic components.

[reef reef]

Then go farm for it. Doesnt take too long to get the starting peices, then you can use it while farming for the rest.

[wide orchid]

Watch out

[reef reef]

Dont witch hunt players.

[wide orchid]

He was being a bully

[reef reef]

Was he breaking rules?

[wide orchid]

Its alright ill 1v1 him instead

[bitter wraith]

Does anyone actually know if ubisoft is aware of the countdown crashing bug?

That's 7 times in 2 days now

[unique summit]

those are rookie numbers

[bitter wraith]

lmao

Are scavenging points spent on a second character also spent on main character if the main has 26 and the second has 79?

[smoky stag]

no. spend is exclusive to the character

[gaunt cliff]

the last time i played was when the "bullet king" lmg build and dmr builds were top, are those still viable? or should i just try to farm brand new ones

[bitter wraith]

So if I spent on second character then those scavenging points wouldn't affect those on main and would also add to materials on main since I have account share blueprint?

[smoky stag]

yes

[livid juniper]

Hello everyone. First day.

[paper phoenix]

Hi

[bitter wraith]

Noice

Does anyone disagree with if you leave countdown early without a fail then you should be suspended from playing for 36 hours. If you disconnect because of Internet you should be suspended for 1 - 2 hours

If you agree/disagree then why? I think this would be good because it prevents people from screwing over everyone else in countdown because 3 people can't do countdown on challenging when they all don't know what to do

It's annoying when you spend 12 minutes doing countdown then in the last few minutes almost the whole team leaves

[unique summit]

There's no way to distinguish between a game crash and an internet disconnect. From the server's perspective you just disappeared and it doesn't know why.

Maybe your game crashed. Maybe your power went out. Maybe your internet went out.

If they start punishing people for crashing people are going to lose their minds.

[bitter wraith]

True I guess it seems logical but also illogical as you just stated

[unique summit]

There's no reason for anyone to voluntarily leave during a countdown run because it's so short. I'm willing to be 95%+ of the time they're crashing. This game has a HUGE problem with crashing... like worse I've ever seen in any game... and if you have 8 people in a lobby it's almost a guarantee someone will crash.

Since countdown is so short who cares. Just run it back.

[bitter wraith]

I don't really get why half the team leaves without disconnecting (Internet error) halfway through though

[unique summit]

You're just as likely to have a countdown team with clowny trash builds that can't get through even with 8 people.

Literally never had anyone just leave without disconnect. I can't remember a single time. The only exception is in the very beginning if a bunch of people go down against hunters. Some folks will rage quit at that point b/c they think the team sucks.

[bitter wraith]

IMO 19 - 21 minutes isn't that short for 1 - 10 named items depending on rng

Since even if you fail and get almost nothing that's still 20 minutes

[unique summit]

I mean by MMO standards that's nothin haha

[gusty drift]

Hi, am new, how to get into countdown

[bitter wraith]

I've seen so many leave without a crash and I proved it even by looking at their profile

[bitter wraith]

You level 40?

[gusty drift]

Yes

[unique summit]

Never had a problem farming CD. Got everything I wanted in just a few runs unless it's something super rare. Dunno. Could be worse I guess.

[bitter wraith]

Erm so on the map below summit press whichever button (same one to start summit) then choose diffuliculty and select or create or matchmaking

[paper phoenix]

Put something in place that says I get suspended for a couple of hours because of something I can't control and there's no way I'll ever play or endorse that product again

[bitter wraith]

At this point im mostly used to the constant crashes or fails because of team ditching the few who actually want some decent loot so I just spam it whenever and somehow don't end up losing interest unless I fail 10+ times in a row

[bitter wraith]

I mean if they found a way of it actually knowing whether you pressed leave countdown or it was genuinely Internet errors

Hell better with no suspensions and implement a system that detects people leaving early and suspend them for like an hour once they leave

[azure lintel]

Just be able to join back on countdown or matchmake into a late one

[azure lintel]

Then people can just turn off their router when they want to leave

[bitter wraith]

Ngl if you could join back on countdown in the one you were in and save all your currency you got from it (without getting it until you complete it fail or not) after a game crash it would make it way more bearable

[bitter wraith]

Not if there was a System that detected that

Although I know this is really dumb and illogical and there never will be so ooofff

[azure lintel]

Not possible its outside of the game

[bitter wraith]

Yeah true

Or another system where you can matchmake into a ongoing countdown

Matchmake - Extraction or something like that idk lol

[gusty drift]

I can see the map but it only says "available soon" or sth

[bitter wraith]

Have you killed keener

And robbed his watch

[gusty drift]

Yes

[bitter wraith]

What SHD level are you?

[gusty drift]

30 sth

[azure lintel]

You're doing it wrong

If it doesn't let you load in

There's no reason why it wouldn't

[gusty drift]

Do i need to do raids first

[bitter wraith]

So your level is not too low because I've seen level 2s in mine

[bitter wraith]

No no you don't at all

Think it's some bug

[low flame]

There is no shd level restrictions on any content

[bitter wraith]

Yes true

[azure lintel]

Man conflict is such a failed mode

[bitter wraith]

Why?

I'd be happy with the only pvp being conflict since they messed up the dz at launch

[azure lintel]

It's too easy some games

And then you fight clans

[bitter wraith]

Especially since then you actually got a reason to kill players

[azure lintel]

And then skill builds

The dz is much better for me

[bitter wraith]

Conflict is the definition of win some lose some

Dz is basically ww3 if it was a free for all

[azure lintel]

It's not real pvp

[bitter wraith]

Conflict?

[azure lintel]

Skirmish in d1 was much better

Probably just the game in general

The fact that players don't switch to fire sticky when they lose

And then left the second the match ends so the loss doesn't count on their stats

[gusty drift]

Do u guys know what they used to sell in rogue shop

[bitter wraith]

People do that? Bruh. I play conflict (not as often as I did because got distracted by expertise again) and don't really care about winning or losing unless my team really is trash (using terrible builds or having very poor aim)

[bitter wraith]

Rogue shop?

[gusty drift]

Thieves den or sth

[bitter wraith]

Equivalent of thinking K/D matters in any game other than COD

From div 2?

[mossy portal]

i cant go back to washinton dc lmao game keeps crashing out

[bitter wraith]

Game crashes on countdown end screen more than it does during the actual countdown yet it somehow seems to save the stuff which makes no sense but I guess I'm not losing much so fine with me

[surreal orbit]

No longer a thing

[gusty drift]

Ye thats y im asking what they used to sell

[surreal orbit]

Stuff, was like Cassie I guess

[paper phoenix]

What happens when you max out the 20 Field Proficiency Caches? Do the rest go to your mailbox?

[gusty drift]

Oh alright

[pallid harness]

you drop it

[bitter wraith]

They drop on floor. If you don't notice them during a mission then you don't get them

Same with all other caches I think

[paper phoenix]

Ah. I'm running convoys on Challenging with 4 directives and it seems like every time I turn around I've got 20 caches to open

[tulip oasis]

Anyone else having this glitch with doing The Pentagon main mission? It says requirements (Pentagon Breach) but I’ve already done that. Anyone else getting that too?

[low flame]

It is a known bug, only fix is to join someone else that has the mission unlocked and run it with them

[slow peak]

Guys, I have 7 ivory keys and 12 hunter masks. I had 7 before I killed the last hunter and I still have 7. Any tips? Sorry to bother

[deep rune]

Is getting liberty same method?

[paper phoenix]

Might have to run them again with someone that hasn't already

[lyric totem]

First Exotic! Pestilence. How is it?

[reef reef]

its alright, not the greatest

[lyric totem]

I see

although LMG's are really fun to use in this game, so I'll have to see how it works in game

[gilded perch]

Imagine, play solo then matching 3 noobs, only die or hiding at cover and do nothing, and you 1v4 with 2~3 life only because those noobs "share" your life

Conflict match making is suck
Some map also is suck
Spawn protection area also suck
Reward is trash

[sweet star]

Is heroic CD signicantly more loot than challenging

[graceful valve]

99% of the rewards in the game are trash

[north cloak]

Yeah ive never had a close game after playing around 10

[north cloak]

responding to this mb

[merry zinc]

can i get iron work material from cd

for regulus

[quick tendon]

Am I wrong in thinking that the 30s have a hard time for matchmaking compared to the 40s? (Can’t wait to get back to doing legendaries and the new ones I’ve not done yet) but I have a long journey to upgrade and gather the right kit. sigh

[surreal orbit]

No

[ashen lark]

Hey lads, just downloaded the game for the first time a few days ago, I get that its years old at this point, but i don't wanna play the entire game solo, having no luck finding people to match up with at all for co-op, anyone in the same boat? or at least have a clan thats pretty active to hop in on games with?

[surreal orbit]

Try calling for backup instead of matchmaking. Might have better luck.

[ashen lark]

Tried everything at this point, feel like there actually are no humans left. Well its immersive at least lol

[gusty drift]

Maybe its console and region issue?

[ashen lark]

Is it just me?

[surreal orbit]

Most are already at end game. Although there has been an influx of new players.

[gusty drift]

Did u see anyone elese in safehouses and Whitehouse?

[ashen lark]

Loads actually yeah, all like shd lvl1k+ though

[frozen meadow]

You'll only find matchmaking for select difficulties and missions basically lol

[gusty drift]

Calling for backup usually works

[ashen lark]

That makes the most sense yeh

[frozen meadow]

You won't have many issues matchmaking say legendaries

Especially the weekly

[ashen lark]

Maybe i just need to grind through until then

[frozen meadow]

Do countdown or summit on heroic

[surreal orbit]

He said he just downloaded the game?

[ashen lark]

i dont want to boost since i just wanna experience the game first, but its making me wanna just take the leap

[frozen meadow]

Use that to make a build

Ah my bad

[frozen meadow]

A few days ago

[gusty drift]

What lvl are u

[ashen lark]

Only 17

[surreal orbit]

☝️

[gusty drift]

Theres a lot of map elements still locked behind story progresssion so clear it first ig

[frozen meadow]

You should be able to get to endgame in a week

[surreal orbit]

Always good to find out what level they’re at…..

[ashen lark]

Thats the plan, playing like 10hrs a day at this point

[frozen meadow]

10 hours a day you can finish in a few days then

[gusty drift]

What are you doing 10h a day on lv 17

[livid juniper]

One gripe I have is how “new” randoms think I am in the game because of my score.
I have the capital trinket. When I explain to them what it means they realize real life kept pulling me away

Otherwise, I love this game.

Trying to keep people in my clan is hard though.

[gusty drift]

I wish the game goes f2p tbh

[frozen meadow]

The capitol trinket as in what