td2-general-chat

[oak prawn]

It was nkt hard to convince an older sibling or parent to buy it for you though

[low lily]

Considering i didn't really play games much before 18 😅😅

[gilded perch]

"answer yes when any website ask you 18years old above or not" is a basic skill of using internet

[low lily]

Yeah 🤣

[desert crystal]

so your saying age means nothing on a game after it’s brought

[gusty dove]

tbh ye

[oak prawn]

I mean there are 8 year olds playing cod so age don't matter after you get thr game

[cinder cloud]

every countdown i've played for the last 3 days has had a hacker in it

i hear shotgun, but i see no shotgun >_>

[limber orchid]

Go to dz and you’ll see aimbot players with over 1K hours… I have never seen a game filled with so many active cheaters 🤦🏼‍♂️

And the devs just don’t care anymore

[cinder cloud]

well heartland is coming, division 2 is old and busted, heartland is new hotness

[errant moat]

well as i know. record it make a ticket on official site. ingame report system dont work as far i know. i meet some guys shooting through walls and speedhacking and other shit in dz i reported them with videos never meet them again. and i meet them littery every 2 days the same guys. after reports with videos on official site i didnt saw them again

[gusty dove]

havent had a single cheater in countdown nor dz..

[errant moat]

then you start to play dz every day then you meet them 10000% if you want some videos of cheaters i can send you pm where i get killed through walls and shit

[limber orchid]

Trust me I have done it so many times and nothing happens

[gusty dove]

US or EU? 🤔

[cinder cloud]

then you're lucky af, when i hear the shotgun going off and the lifebars being extinguished all over the room, i just leave now

[errant moat]

well im kinda activ in dz (every day) and meet alot of time same players but not the cheater i reported

[limber orchid]

Are you in EU server?

[errant moat]

y

[gusty dove]

huh... weird then, legit never seen one even though im in europe

[cinder cloud]

it's impossible not to come across one in this game

[limber orchid]

Go watch Cryptomous YouTube video. He made a video about pvp cheaters

It’s just ridiculously

[gusty dove]

wish i was lying but legit never came across one.. 🤷

[errant moat]

maybe you dont know how a cheater looks like

but i can confirm it what @limber orchid if you cheat legit in this game and someone make video of it nothing happens

if you shoot like i got players cought they get banned via ticket

[limber orchid]

It’s weird man but I heard they always get 7 - 14 bans not perma ban for the first time which is stupid

[cinder cloud]

this, i first noticed it in summit, i was playing with randoms on legendary capitol hill, one of them left at the end, then another joined with a matching username, it took me 3 floors to notice he wasn't using a super 90

[errant moat]

well i meet a guy who is still playing the game he is in many cheater videos and still not banned shd level 12k by the way. and he is activ playing dz with aimbot. if you google his ingame name you found 3 videos of him cheating its amazing and he is still there

[gusty dove]

🤷 i do it in other games, but every countdown i have been in just never seen a cheater

[limber orchid]

I couldn’t care less if someone cheat in pve it doesn’t affect me. If you cheat in pvp you’re just a idiot

[gusty dove]

true

[cinder cloud]

the one i just played, some will rapid fire a whole room, the smart ones will slow tap so it's not obvious, but yeah... ars don't fire shotgun rounds 😦

[errant moat]

countdown never saw cheater to. but cheater dont go countdown with players cause they can solo do countdown on heroric

[errant moat]

yeah thats what i mean they dnt need to go countdpwn with random players.

[cinder cloud]

the first time i saw it was in a raid, but he kept shooting marazova lmao

causing the map to get nuked over and over again 🤣

[gusty dove]

nuked how, like just enemies or map goes bye bye?

[cinder cloud]

when marazova takes too much damage, she retreats into her room and launches an airstrike

if the bunker has electricity running through it, players can't take shelter, so everyone dies

so the person had to be new and using hacks lol

the sad thing is they are just standing in the open using it, because they know they can get away with it, aimbot 1 tapping everything through walls

they don't even need to hide far away, because they're gonna be playing again tomorrow lol

[desert crystal]

I was just reading shd level doesn’t matter over 1000 is this true

[gusty dove]

yes

[cinder cloud]

unless you want a ton of shd points

[errant moat]

its still important for materials you can get over shd 1k and you will need alot

[gusty dove]

you can be shd 8k and still suck at this game 🤣

[desert crystal]

oh so you gain anything from it over 1000 then

[gusty dove]

only thing you gain is more watch points so you can run wony

[cinder cloud]

you get 200 shd points when you get another toon through wony

the higher your watch is, the more shd points the fresh toon will get

-800 off your main?

[desert crystal]

oh so any thing over 1000 only benefits a new character

[cinder cloud]

there's account shared materials

and blueprints you buy from inaya

[desert crystal]

i no that bit

[gusty dove]

yeah, other than that idk

[cinder cloud]

it benefits the account

[desert crystal]

there is that

[gusty dove]

more mats so 🤷

[desert crystal]

i have a hard core but never use it

My outher to are normal ones

[cinder cloud]

i only did hardcore so i could get the shotgun

once i got it, i deleted the character

[gusty dove]

which shotgun 🤔

[desert crystal]

so i dont need to save the hardcore if i need the slot then

you only get 4 slots anyway dont you

[gusty dove]

ye

[cinder cloud]

enforcer

[desert crystal]

Is it good

[cinder cloud]

very

you can make a good headshot build with it, it has perfect pummel on it

[cinder cloud]

2 consecutive kills refils the magazine and grants +40% weapon damage for 10s

[desert crystal]

so you cant use it anymore

[cinder cloud]

you can

i think you got it right away when you pre ordered wony

[desert crystal]

how did you move it to your nomal character

[cinder cloud]

stash

[desert crystal]

i thought hard core and. Soft had separate ones

[cinder cloud]

nvm it was the mail then

[desert crystal]

I thought it was impossible to get higher crit damage than 230%

[azure lintel]

[hybrid ore]

Backfire.

[gusty dove]

isn't backfire the type of weapon you'd mark as junk and deconstruct?

[hybrid ore]

Only if you have no taste.

Backfire requires a specific build, but is a hell of a lot of fun to use, despite not being the most meta thing out there.

Dealing damage to enemies adds a stack of 1% Critical Hit Damage. Stacks last for 10s and are capped to 200
On Reload, applies a 10s bleed to yourself which deals 0.5% armor damage per stack"```
To clarify what the Backfire brings to the table.

[safe wraith]

Yeah

[low lily]

It's pretty bad yeah

[molten spire]

Being near totally immune to people attempting to riot foam ambush you is great

less great is needing to ramp up the buff beforehand to have a chance against them

[low lily]

Yeah

[whole thistle]

tyvm @oak prawn that fight is hell even on challenging lmao

[oak prawn]

told you micro aint easy

[whole thistle]

i think the main issue is how many angles they have on you compared to trig

[oak prawn]

that damm sniper kept killing me

sometimes i hate being so fragile with my build

[whole thistle]

haha i saw that shotgun spam after we killed him

yea i feel you thats what i felt like with strikers, its why i like running umbral initiative instead. id rather take a hit in dps and be able to regen my armor at any time than have to spam armor kits

[mighty wedge]

the pvp in this game is so bad...

it makes me want to quit every time

[modest lintel]

in what way

[mighty wedge]

unbalanced and op shit + cheaters everywhere

its just insanely frustrating

[modest lintel]

i havent seen cheaters for awhile

[mighty wedge]

lucky for you

[modest lintel]

it's unbalanced, cause u need to know what build to counter

[sleek drift]

inb4 skill issue

[whole thistle]

Cheaters on MY EASY ANTICHEAT GAME? nah no way

[mighty wedge]

ha

[modest lintel]

depending either conflict or dz, every build has its own counter

but in conflict, a bit harder unless u got a good team since it's more compact

[sleek drift]

Probably more fair since arena layout

But Halo taught me that shit doesn't matter

[modest lintel]

well build does matter

[sleek drift]

No shit

[modest lintel]

if u bring just your red dps build, then u'll get frustrated

[timber hatch]

whats your setup for pvp?

[mighty wedge]

i try different things

been trying to set up a hazard and pulse immune

3 yaahl 2 ceska

but i cant find a good ceska backpack

bruh i did something fun last night tho, i had running a 6 blue core striker and ambushed a guy while having a full stack of bee.. then switch to vector with 1400 rpm, did 160k dmg per bullet to him, with 6 blue that is pretty lol

[lofty slate]

ok I hate this game today... weekly failed just cause there's one mob left and he's out of bounds or smth, nowhere near the locations I get to roam around

[oak prawn]

weirdest thing happened

was in a cd and the hunters did not spawn at the beginning

like they did not appear

[vast peak]

is it for me or the chameleon is hard to get? lol

i've been straight full time doing countdown to buy exotic caches but it won't give me lmao

[surreal orbit]

Bounties seem to drop it a lot. Try matchmaking for random bounties from matchmaking tab on map.

[mighty wedge]

I seem to get chameleon most of any exotics i feel

i must have gotten like 30+ of it or something lol

maybe not that many but lots anyway

[mental bison]

Is imperial dynasty exotic one of those more memey ones ?

[potent lava]

I think everyone has their "own" most dropped exotic, cause my friend gets alot of smgs, and I get nothing but lmgs

[hybrid ore]

Chameleon is actually one of the easiest Exotics to get, as it actually has a "higher chance area" to drop in, outside of Targeted Loot.
tl;dr Bounty bosses drop it like candy.

[pliant sentinel]

they usually drop MREs for me

[plucky pumice]

its just so random got scorpio from a propaganda in open world on a hard setting about a hour ago gave it away to a new player so its his first exotic

[mighty wedge]

good on ya

[vast peak]

got it finally at last after 12 freaking hours of CD

[plucky pumice]

nice 1

[fiery cloud]

hope everyone is having a good gaming time

[wet igloo]

I’m just doodling

[olive hedge]

Any new ways to farm shd watch levels

[errant moat]

man you have no idea how to counter build tell me. when someone does 500k each hit with little bee stacks

its unbalanced atm as fuck pvp

with little bee stacks you can make 800 each hit on players XD with 1,5mio armor build

today meet a guy with 1,7m armor memento critbuild he just beamed me with 2 shoots. with kingbreaker

[frozen meadow]

i can snipe you and 1-shot

you aint surviving that with 1.5m

[errant moat]

man i play pvp every day

[frozen meadow]

congrats

[errant moat]

you have no idea

[frozen meadow]

mate

thats not how it works

[errant moat]

of course but meet guys with little bee stacks 1,7m armor and they just kill you with 1 hits with kingbreaker

[frozen meadow]

you cant just say "i didnt consent to this bullet wound"

if i hit you ye dead

[oak prawn]

Not if I snipe you first

[errant moat]

you talk about sniper listen what i wirte then tell me tosmehting ok

[frozen meadow]

yeah you just mentioned armour

1.7 mil isnt enough to stop a sniper

i can hit up to 2.4 with a white death on an unoptimized build lawl

[oak prawn]

With snipers I try to get close and then beam them

[errant moat]

ok its about pvp. we talk about pvp and there is a point you can get 2-3 shooted from palyers with assault rifles not sniper

[glad vortex]

Is there a way to disable invaded missions?

[frozen meadow]

what

[oak prawn]

Nope

[errant moat]

i snipe people to with 2m each hit but people doing it with normal weapons

[glad vortex]

I’m trying to play story on hard difficulty

[frozen meadow]

so snipers just magically dont work anymore

[hybrid ore]

You can "toggle mission mode" for them.
on PC it's holding G, unsure about PS.

[frozen meadow]

im not understanding where you are coming from

because 1.5 mil armour isnt gonna stop a snipe

and yes i know we are talking about pvp

[surreal orbit]

Toggle mission mode to switch back to normal mission. Only works on invaded missions.

[oak prawn]

PvP is really a small part of the division 2

I don't PvP unless I have to

[glad vortex]

How can i do it?

[modest lintel]

small part and yet they made changes based on pvp

[glad vortex]

It only shows difficulty for invade mode

[errant moat]

i dont udnerstand why you cant get away from the snniper part cause know one is talking about that. its about a guy talk about broken builds in pvp

[frozen meadow]

you made it sound like the build was uncounterable

[oak prawn]

PvP is unplayable due to hackers ghosts corner glitchers and people who have expertise 15 on thier guns

[surreal orbit]

Highlight mission, go to set difficulty and look at the options below. Should have an option to toggle mission mode.

[frozen meadow]

so i said otherwise

[modest lintel]

pvp is playable

[oak prawn]

Eh kinda gotta watch out for those ghost agents

[modest lintel]

but there's always people complain of similar things since div1

[errant moat]

for that guys who say pvp is playable stack with little bee with your normal pvps build sbefor you fight switch and shooton a player

then you see how pvp is

[frozen meadow]

w33 are you new to the game by any chance

[modest lintel]

bla bla bla....bee bee bee

[errant moat]

yeah shd level 3,5k no summit seems new

[oak prawn]

I go into DZ west and it's always empty and I don't do the glitch to empty the DZ

[frozen meadow]

okay so you are new

[frozen meadow]

pvp is a pretty toxic environment

[oak prawn]

It's fun to grind an empty DZ and even if I do meet someone else we do our own things very peaceful good place to farm

[frozen meadow]

everyone complains abuot everything

[modest lintel]

i rest my case

[frozen meadow]

you cant compromise with anyone

[oak prawn]

You can't make everyone happy

No matter how hard you try

[frozen meadow]

if you were handing out $20 bills on the street, people will still complain

[oak prawn]

Yep it's impossible to please everyone

Granted PvP is a really small community of the div 1 and 2

How hard is it to find a Han U BP with tech support 😪

[knotty quail]

I think appeal keys are bugged

[frozen meadow]

lol

how

[knotty quail]

Not getting them

[frozen meadow]

you dont get one every level

[knotty quail]

Like, level says I got one

[oak prawn]

I had tk restart my game

[knotty quail]

But nothing

[oak prawn]

Restart your game

[knotty quail]

Ew, too bothersome

[oak prawn]

Only way to make the keys appear

That's happened to me lot of times

[knotty quail]

If I get all the keys I was supposed to get, then I can do it later

[oak prawn]

I have everything you can get via those keys so I get textiles everytime I open a cache

[knotty quail]

Eyyy, saw my first stalker Hunter

Neat

[oak prawn]

Kinda creepy how they just watch you

[gusty dove]

have yet to see one

[oak prawn]

There watching you

Observing

[mystic zealot]

correct me if i'm wrong....isn't the 2 big red tanks on riker and leg-white tusk heavy supposed to be the air tanks for their nail guns? why does the tusks have them? i mean the brothers ain't nailing us

[oak prawn]

White tusk heavies don't use nail guns I think it is their heal packs

[mystic zealot]

i mean the 2 in the zoo, the flashers

[oak prawn]

Which part of zoo?

[bitter wraith]

2880 proficiencies to go ☠️

[mystic zealot]

final, aka the bosses, the Frank brothers

[rain lark]

will this game ever stop crashing smh

[bitter wraith]

Is expertise level TWENTY really worth it or should i just go for 10?

[oak prawn]

If your PvPing alot yes if not no

[bitter wraith]

Because it is ridiculously grindy

[sleek drift]

skill issue

[bitter wraith]

I intend to ONLY pvp but i wouldnt consider it to be 'a lot' maybe 3 hours a day or so

[mystic zealot]

i mean, expertise lvl 20 be like a whole +20%armor, and/or 20% dmg

[timber hatch]

as someone with 20, I rarely go past 10, and going past 14-15 is really inefficient with exotic components

[rain lark]

6x 20% armor

and 20% damage per weapon

[timber hatch]

its not

[rain lark]

so yeah, worth it

[bitter wraith]

Already got all the shit to upgrade to 20

Its about fhe grind to 20 in terms of proficiencies

[rain lark]

you cant upgrade to 20% each piece ?

[gilded perch]

it is 20% armor of gear base armor

[bitter wraith]

How long does it usually take for 15 levels?

[gilded perch]

not 20% total armor

[rain lark]

im at lvl 11 expertise

[mystic zealot]

lvl....4....

[rain lark]

but tbh its not that bad, just do countdown lol

[bitter wraith]

As long as AR weapon damage isnt nerfed in the next 8 to 10 months its fine because at that point ill probably leave the game to gather dust for up to a further 6 months

[timber hatch]

getting to around 10 is easy, getting to 20 basically requires WONY runs and a high SHD

[bitter wraith]

I am bruhh...soo grindy

[timber hatch]

just play how you want, and let it go up naturally without you worrying about it, its just not worth it

[bitter wraith]

I have all the shit to upgrade. If i was at expertise 20 i could immediately upgrade my famas from 5 to 20 but i cant

[timber hatch]

how many exotic components do you have?

[bitter wraith]

I have other games to play but i also want to flex on dz tryhards

[bitter wraith]

112

[timber hatch]

so you have enough to get 2 items to 20

[gilded perch]

my suggest is, if your are not looking for pvp, not looking for speedrun, then you don't need to boost your expertise immediately

[timber hatch]

^

[bitter wraith]

With improvised gear, can i just craft 20 of kneepads and donate them all and boom +10 proficiencies?

[bitter wraith]

Im looking for pvp only

[bitter wraith]

1. FAMAS currently at lvl 5

Literally was the whole point of expertise then i realised once i get enough msts i can lvl 20 EVERYTHING

But its grindy af so patience is required...a lot of it

If i were to do 1 proficiency a day wouldnt that be like 2880 days?

So about 7 years and 8 months 💀

Ok what about 10 a day

[timber hatch]

well thats a slow pace lol

whats your shd?

[bitter wraith]

288 days...hm maybe 100 a day

100 proficiencies a day will do since thats less than 6 weeks

[bitter wraith]

848

Do i have to do 20 proficicies for every level after 3 or so?

[timber hatch]

forget about experience until your at least 2k+, its just not worth worrying about

[bitter wraith]

Do you even realise how long it would take me to get to 2k?

Longer than playing for 4 hours a day for a few weeks lmao

[timber hatch]

its literally quicker to farm a high shd and then run WONY. If getting to 2k sounds far off then getting to 20 experience is farther away then you think

[bitter wraith]

Um 2920 proficiencies what...

How much filament does 1 scavenging point give you?

Isnt it like 10 or something

Thats about 1700 filament which is about 50 proficies...not even worth it

[timber hatch]

It takes 3k filament to max one item, or 300 shd points

[potent chasm]

Our Agent must have really good cardio, kinda jealous

[bitter wraith]

And i only get 168 to 171 shd points rn so...ye

[bitter wraith]

3k filament is 10 proficiencies

So thats about 840k filament overall

[timber hatch]

You don't want to just use filament for everything though. You'll want to craft 20 of every craftable weapon, and then buy everything you still need to max sold from vendors each week. Then after that, filament the rest. Exotics and skills being the main ones for that

[jolly kettle]

Today i made Tidal basin with a stable and strong group legendary

🥳

[gusty dove]

gg

[bitter wraith]

Should i go through every category starting from rifles?

[timber hatch]

without a ton of shd points to spend its not worth it, youll run out of materials very quickly

[bitter wraith]

I know...but i dont really know what the best way is if it takes about 55 countdowns for one expertise level up and i need 14 of that so thats at least 650 countdowns if im relying on donations not materials or WONY

[modest lintel]

patience is the name of the game

[astral jacinth]

Just pick up whatever you find during missions and stuff and just donate them no need to focus grind expertise

Anything you can’t donate just dismantle and then level the proficiencies from the resources

But I would focus on library and optimization first

[crystal copper]

Guys

What the best pistol

[tender notch]

regulas

[viscid cargo]

Regulus, kard, orbit

Any d50

[mossy arch]

depends
TDI Kard custom for everything
Orbit for weapon DPS
Regulus for luls
Liberty for shielders
Recently added Bee could have some use in weapon DPS builds also

[hybrid ore]

Mozam supremacy is waning a little, I see.

[tender notch]

Regulus and liberty both out DPS Orbit,
and busy Bee is miles stronger then orbit for main weapon added dps.
Kard custom only for red build extra revive hive trick.

[mossy arch]

Orbit for his buff, it's not about pistol dps, same as Bee

[tender notch]

yup mentioned above, Bee does same thing as orbit BUT miles stronger.

bee with just 1 stack, already stomps on orbit for main weapon buff 😄

[frozen meadow]

That doesn't even make sense

[sleek drift]

Sure it is, you're just bad at compromising

[frozen meadow]

That has nothing to do with it lmao

[oak prawn]

wild floor 10 agents are so funny

[gusty dove]

when you finally manage to get a mpx from a prof cache and the talent and attribute is shit :( sadge

[oak prawn]

fear wanna help me run CD to get the last pieces for my skill build

[gusty dove]

lemme finish micro rq, reran it to get xp lol

[oak prawn]

i need a han u BP with tech support

[brisk bridge]

Sure you wouldn't be better off with Wyvern?

[oak prawn]

im going wyvern chest

with KM

im going 3 pc empress 2 hanu 1 wyvern

im just copying racueys build on the spreadsheet

[brisk bridge]

Have you acquired Waveform Holster and Capacitor already?

[oak prawn]

cap no but i have test subject

[brisk bridge]

Cool. Capacitor is a beast.

I ran my first 700 levels or so mostly on turret/drone. 🙂

[oak prawn]

finding a han u bp with tech support is hard

[chrome python]

why not find a good han u bag, optimize it and transfer talent?

[gusty dove]

welp shd level 970 now, getting close to 1k

[brisk bridge]

Another option is to keep an eye out for Fenris with Tech Support if you want to use tech spec. Adds a bit more AR damage.

[oak prawn]

cause finding anything hanu with skill haste and skill damage is hard

[chrome python]

eh

[oak prawn]

i did get god roll hanu gloves so

[brisk bridge]

Or the Force Multiplier (Hana-U named BP) with Perfect Combined Arms.

[oak prawn]

i had 1 but it has a blue and red att

[gusty dove]

which yellow build btw, the drone turret or?

[oak prawn]

default drone/turret

[gusty dove]

thats combined arms

[knotty quail]

isn't there a named Hana U with Perfect Tech support?

[oak prawn]

ofc ill keep my dps build for CD and raids

[brisk bridge]

That's the grind. 🙂
You're targeting Hana-U in CD, right?

[oak prawn]

yes i just need the bp i have the gloves

[brisk bridge]

Nope, that's Alps - Percussive Maintenance

[oak prawn]

i have the 3 pc empress already

[gusty dove]

looking at the spreadsheet, doesnt look like tech support though?

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?noteGuid=a7081cdc-b5c5-7677-e166-b27ea3b2f6f8&noteKey=c6f8e9d0c5615e9a45ad57702425d603&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2Fa7081cdc-b5c5-7677-e166-b27ea3b2f6f8%2Fc6f8e9d0c5615e9a45ad57702425d603&title=Drone%2BTurret%2BSkill%2BDamage%2BBuild%2B%2528TU16%2529

[oak prawn]

it can be ether

[gusty dove]

ah

[brisk bridge]

Says "Backpack talent: Combined Arms, Tech Support"

[oak prawn]

im just copying his build cause im too lazy to make my own

spent over 2 months working on my dps build to get it where it is today

[brisk bridge]

LOL. I keep messing with Hybrid builds now.

[oak prawn]

as much as i love my dps build i rely on it too much

i wanna expand

[brisk bridge]

Do 30 floors of Summit and get the Capacitor.

[oak prawn]

do you only gotta do 30 floors?

[brisk bridge]

It's been a long time, but I think you get the Cap the first time you finish 30 floors. Edit: I'm wrong.

(Willing to be corrected on this.)

[oak prawn]

let me check rq

[brisk bridge]

Oh, it's completing 5 challenges in Summit.

It's gotta be all in one run though.

[oak prawn]

i can do acsent challenges on normal

easy

[brisk bridge]

There you go then.

[dense wraith]

is the DZ good for SHD exp?

[inner elbow]

No

[low lily]

I did 600 levels on my hardcore character in dz

[gusty dove]

you do level up quick from dz

[dense wraith]

now im just confused LOL

1 no 2 yeses LOL

[low lily]

Heroic landmarks are fast but you gonna get killed

[dense wraith]

oh i can clear heroic np

[low lily]

Players i mean

[dense wraith]

not an issue just curious on the exp is all

oh ic

[low lily]

If you good at popshotting and run PGC you can easily 1v4 tho

So it's all about skill end of the day

[lament mirage]

Amen

[oak prawn]

@gusty dove my cap is godrolled🤣

[gusty dove]

💀 i only have a near godrolled cap

[oak prawn]

Lmao finally got something good for my troubles

Might add 1 red core into my skill build

Just to have a lil more dps

[mighty wedge]

aaaaaaa the ammount of cheaters in conflict is insane

its literally unplayable

[sleek drift]

inb4 skill issue

[timber hatch]

There's far fewer cheaters than people who accuse people of cheating

[mighty wedge]

so you know all the cheaters then?

[timber hatch]

Not all but I know how to spot them lol

[mighty wedge]

this is the same as escape from tarkov community

[timber hatch]

What are you seeing?

[mighty wedge]

"there are no cheaters, just desync and skill issue" - escape from tarkov community

meanwhile 7 out of 10 raids have some ballbag player flying in the sky wiping the lobby

whatever u say fam

[timber hatch]

There's definitely cheaters, I'm just saying it's much rarer than people claim

[mighty wedge]

you have absolutely no way of knowing that

i respect you, and all, but that is a stupid and baseless statement

[timber hatch]

And yes, there is a ton of desync, and that's generally what most people think is cheating when they see it. If you duck into cover or around a corner and are still shot, that's desync, not shooting through walls

[mighty wedge]

yes, i know

but when u see someone running blatantly at 1.5 speed and hipfire kill 4 ppl in 2 seconds

its not desync.

[fast harness]

I've seen a cheater only once and that was a year ago or so back in dz, but I remember a cheater in a mission who has a damage modifier

[vast knot]

I meet one in dz shooting his fal as a minigun with the bullets to go with it

A-10'en me

[fast harness]

A double barrel shotgun that was auto.

[vast knot]

Of all the weapons that one take the cake

[fast harness]

Yep.

[tender wave]

ran a random mm mission with someone once who was spawnrushing with the EB and murdering everything really quickly with headshots: at the end stats screen their accuracy was over 90%

they had some weird shoved-together build too.

[warm minnow]

probably a hacker

[tender wave]

that was my thoughts, yes

[warm minnow]

depends on difficulty

[tender wave]

pretty rare to see anyone with over 60% accuracy on endgame stats screen, let alone an EB player

[sleek drift]

The lengths people go to obscure cheating is funny

[mighty wedge]

see during the speed run event leaderboards are always full of absurdly fast timers and the players have full headshot builds

builds that are genuinely terrible if u dont have god like aim

and somehow they are placed as "best of the best", lol

probably just a weird coincidence!

[oak prawn]

Have you seen raid times

[mighty wedge]

no

[timber hatch]

the raid leaderboards are just straight up broken right now, thats not even hackers

but the actual speedrun times are likely times you'd think are impossible as well

[mighty wedge]

its no news that people will do absolutely anything to get on leaderboards in games like this. including pay money for someone to boost them, use exploits and cheats

[oak prawn]

Whats number 1 for IH

[mighty wedge]

its pretty sad really

[oak prawn]

I wonder what the fastest time for IH is

[timber hatch]

15:09

[mighty wedge]

;|

[oak prawn]

Wbu DHs?

[timber hatch]

7:10 for DH

[rare vapor]

@quaint acorn poke*

[quaint acorn]

Word

[oak prawn]

DH is more believable then IH

Am I gonna get rickrolled like azurmen tried to do?

[timber hatch]

no lol

[oak prawn]

The music is gonna make it even better 🤣🤣🤣

[inner elbow]

IH clean WR when

[oak prawn]

He has a good taste in music

[gusty dove]

the music, LOL 💀

[timber hatch]

if you mean glitchless, then we did a glitchless 25:33 that could have been improved on quite a bit, but the div2 speedrun community recognizes runs using those glitches

[inner elbow]

nice

clean = best

[oak prawn]

End song ice ice baby

[timber hatch]

should have been rick astley

[oak prawn]

No

[mighty wedge]

oh waaat, i got the hollow man from named item cache..

didnt know that was possible. sweet

i guess health damage is not that great tho but still

[tall barn]

can lvl30 beat a lvl40 in pvp

[mighty wedge]

no

[timber hatch]

depends if the 40 is afk or not

[mighty wedge]

was gonna say

[sonic isle]

granting "hello" tags

[tall barn]

so theres no point in pvp if im lvl 30

[mighty wedge]

not unless u are a masochist

[timber hatch]

stay out of conflict for sure, because you'll be matched with 40s and completely doom your team. But if you go into the DZ without any 40s in your group you should only be matched vs other 30s

that said, level 30 DZ is probably pretty dead

[oak prawn]

It is

Perfect place to farm

[tall barn]

is there anything i can do while being lvl 30

[warm minnow]

raid

[oak prawn]

On normal mode ?

[warm minnow]

you can be carried on normal mode

[tall barn]

nvm ill just get lvl 40

[oak prawn]

Yea but razorback is gonna be a problem well ig if you put them in 1 of the in spots

1 in 2 in 3 in or 4 in

[warm minnow]

nah just do circles

as red fi

=)

[oak prawn]

Circles are 1 in 2 in 3 in 4 in

[warm minnow]

yeah

[oak prawn]

I usually do 2 in as I have a grenade launcher

[warm minnow]

he has to be circle with demo

because i would never give him outside

[oak prawn]

I could do outside but I have a demo

So better I do inside

You just gotta keep agro off him cause he will be down really fast at level 30

Some ads will target the inside players

[warm minnow]

Honestly do 2 in

easiest place

[oak prawn]

I usually alternate between 2 in and 4 out

Circles are easy just go in when whoever is calling says go wait till circles are green wait till vent shows guy uses crossbow you use demo wait for the back or front to finish get oit of circles dps rinse ans repeat simple

The groups I run with usually do back back front front

[inner elbow]

Countdown too as well I think. But I presume it's pretty dead

[quick wolf]

There's plenty of content to do with groups at Lv. 30. Just don't be surprised if it takes longer to find groups since most players have moved on to Lv. 40.

[summer frost]

My first countdown ever, 8 agents shooting the same hunter it felt like a mob

I'm not sure I liked countdown very much but there you go

[quick wolf]

I can't tell at this point if people are leaving intentionally or the crashing is actually this bad.

And it's confusing, because literally when it's time to extract. That's when everyone suddenly starts crashing.

And it's remained that way consistently through the past like... 4 or 5 matches I've played so far.

Haven't been able to extract once, because everybody just disconnects towards the end.

[summer frost]

Should I extract as soon as the helo is Available or stay and fight the hunter and ads?

[quick wolf]

General rule of thumb is to eat away as much of the timer as possible during extract phase. More NPCs, more loot.

Unless you know for fact that you're fighting on the losing side, always try to delay as much as you can.

But if there's like 5-6 of you getting shredded near the end. Then maybe try to leave quick.

[dense wraith]

what would be the best way to gain SHD exp other than summit 10

[frozen meadow]

Depends if you want to piss people off

[reef reef]

summit 10 was nerfed this last patch, next best way is resource convoys, generally

[dense wraith]

ah ok

ty

[frozen meadow]

Floor 10 is worthless nowadays, it's either convoys or legendaries

[frozen meadow]

To elaborate, it'll piss everyone off to call extraction asap

[summer frost]

@quick wolf @frozen meadow thanks

It was my first run, I didn't know I could extract but I saw my teammates disappear and I panicked so I extracted as well

There was one hunter alive at least

Hence why I was wondering whether we (I?) Extracted too soon

[quick wolf]

Think of it like you're following a command line with some code.

"X amount of time is left."
"Is your group losing?" > "No." > "Delay Timer."
"Is your group losing?" > "Yes." > "Extract ASAP."

This is how I think, anyway, when I play Div 2. Just... you know... much faster because its all muscle memory at this point.

[unkempt moat]

How long does Iron horse take on average?

[twilit slate]

depends on g

could use more, only 3/8 in the one im in atm

[unkempt moat]

Haven't done it yet, not even on Discovery mode, plus, don't have enough time atm

[twilit slate]

works

[unkempt moat]

I might ask for a group in the afternoon, when im home from work, but thanks

[quick wolf]

On average you can expect around 30-45 minute runs. Less than 30 In a good group and over 45 in a group that's below average. The worst runs can take an hour or more. Two even, assuming no one's left yet, lol. But that's an extreme case.

[unkempt moat]

watching a guide atm, looks like the furnace part is the most fucky

[reef reef]

i'll add on- dont run discovery, it is just not worth the time.

mechanics are changed enough that it is just not even good for learning the raid

[vivid mason]

Hello everybody, I'm new to the server and I just wanted to say hi

[summer frost]

Ohai @vivid mason

[chrome python]

Best way to get Dark Winter?

[reef reef]

best way would be DZ when its targeted loot SMGs, but if you dont want to touch the dark zones with a 20 foot pole, countdown vendor sells named item caches. Small chance to specifically get what you want but thankfully with optimization you can get a godrolled one from a single drop.

[chrome python]

i just spent 30 minutes in DZ getting camped by a cheater lol

instant max damage nemesis nerd

[brazen mountain]

I’m sure he’s crying rn because you said that

That’s right I’m back from da dead

[chrome python]

i called him a nerd in proxy lol

he was pretty salty when i killed him with a sticky

[brazen mountain]

Lmao

I don’t think nerds and good insult ngl

[chrome python]

it's all about how you say it

[viscid cargo]

Isnt dz targeted still broken?

[reef reef]

thought i heard it was fixed, i'm not 100% sure now tho

according to the issue tracker, TU16.1 fixed the targeted loot bug in DZ, but it is now dropping as normal loot and not contaminated, which will be solved later.

[quick wolf]

So basically, it's still broken. Just in a different way.

[strong ledge]

The way it's broken right now favors players, though

one day of SMG target loot in DZ and you will have dark winter for sure

[abstract cipher]

If I recalibrate a core attribute, can I also do the talent?

[reef reef]

nope

[abstract cipher]

wack

thanks

[quick wolf]

Doesn't make it any less funny. If anything it's even funnier now.

[strong ledge]

Not sure what makes any of it funny, but ok

[quick wolf]

The irony of it all. DZ target loot was broken for a good long while, and made DZ grinding basically pointless. Now it's stacked in the player's favor. lmao

If it's not dropping contaminated like it should, then losing your shit to ganks is basically nonexistent.

Makes Pvpers annoyed to a degree I might imagine.

[dense ermine]

Hi all! Just picked the game back up since launch week, what skills should I go for while leveling to have the smoothest time?

[quick wolf]

Sniper turret is fun early game but falls off quick without any skill tiers.

Turret and Drone can take some heat off you, but they don't last long once targeted without skill tiers either.

Res hive is reliable and will get you back up in a pinch if you can stay alive long enough for it to go off cooldown.

The cluster seeker mine is also quite fun to use, but lacks single target damage which is made worse by lack of skill tiers.

None of this matters until you start hitting like... Lv. 20 or something. When skill tiers start to become important.

[rare vapor]

I just defeated Micro in ViewPoint museum, but i didn't get the key, still says 0/1 when it told me to go and hear the recording. Any fix to this?

[quick wolf]

I did it in a group and got it. If you ran it solo, try that instead.

[rare vapor]

[stiff violet]

huh, is Swap Chain supposed to be missing a muzzle mod? the regular MP7 has a 5.56 muzzle mod

[low lily]

Pvp people usually kill you because they can and just to annoy you....no one cares about the loot....i once actually cared when i got a god rolled vigilance from some shd 46 who I killed in extraction 😅😅

Kid tried to attack me like 5 times after that

🫂

[potent lava]

i can barely play the game, im crashing over and over.

[low lily]

🤣

[potent lava]

lol

[low lily]

If you start to crash, just say no, then legally it can't crash

It's the law

[primal willow]

Patience is the Key to achieve something u want but sometimes u have to figure out if it is worth being patience or it could be a waste of ur time. Rally ur Agent through the obstacles. It will be worth a risk. with different rewards and knowledge.

[low lily]

Whatever you taking, i want it too

[modest lintel]

in real life, it's the very essence of bullying. SHD 46 clearly an inexperienced player. But, it's only a game.

[robust lake]

am i missing something or do kneepads not come in Blue/Yellow in the early game?

[hybrid ore]

Everything pre-Lvl 40 (pre Gearscore if no DLC) doesn't matter anyway, so don't worry too much about it.

[robust lake]

i know it just bugs me that its the only slot i cant get a blue or yellow attribute drop for

[azure lintel]

would farming for badger turf armor help me find more Zero F's chestpieces?

or does loot allocation not effect named drop probabilities

[patent citrus]

Anyone know Amherst's voice actor?

I've been trying to find it in the credits, but Ubisoft made it so hard to find the voice actor credits lol

Found it, nvm

[fast phoenix]

is the skill tier from the passive technician reflected when I go to inventory and look at my skill tier?

[abstract cipher]

can heartbreaker drop with red core?

[quick wolf]

No. All gear items in the game with the very rare exceptions have a base core attribute that they will roll with.

For example, Striker gear will always drop with Red cores.

And Foundry will always drop with blue cores.

System Corruption and Memento are the only exceptions to my knowledge.

[abstract cipher]

Ah I see, so if wanting red heartbreaker, need to hope for red secondary attributes and just recal the core

[quick wolf]

Basically.

[abstract cipher]

Damn, grind is on

Thanks 🙂

[hybrid ore]

Yep, when it comes to Targeted Loot (TL) the "rules" are:
Named Item = Brand.
Exotic = Type.
Note: if an item is locked to the DZ, then it can still only be obtained via the DZ/Conflict/Named Item caches.

[abstract cipher]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but manhunt bosses target can also drop DZ exclusive items?

Dark winter dropped for me

[hybrid ore]

Correct, but there's really no option for "farming" them, so it's rarely brought up.

[summer trail]

need some help, i have killed micro but didnt getthe lewis usb stick

do i need to redo the mission?

[hybrid ore]

Try restarting first, then retry if needed

[summer trail]

i did twice

[desert crystal]

How likely is it to get a subset pice drop from a ramdom enemy

[azure lintel]

is ubisoft down..? i can't get access to my account -_-

[desert crystal]

i was on an hour a go and it was fine

[azure lintel]

Well i logged off and when i try to log it doens't work...

i switched my password to something more comfortable
and when i try to log in still, it doesn't work -_-

[desert crystal]

maybe it went down then

mines working

@azure lintel are you uk or not

[azure lintel]

Mexico

[desert crystal]

maybe its just down there then

[azure lintel]

that's perfect..

[desert crystal]

it’s definitely working over here

[azure lintel]

ah now it allowed me to sign in

Wanted to play division for the rest of the night until crashes stress me enough to leave it

[compact epoch]

same playing HC right now for sure it would crash any moment now

[desert crystal]

You play hard core then

[compact epoch]

Would be great if they can really "FIX" the crashing issues

[desert crystal]

are they not ment to have

[oak prawn]

just as i got a hanu back godroll in CD my game crashes

before i could even pick it up

[compact epoch]

That's the annoying part when a good drops and game crashes

[azure lintel]

that's what i've been fearing the most to happen

[oak prawn]

well the game completely froze it would nto close so i had to hard restart my pc

[azure lintel]

I got 3 deltas in a row, and i crashed on the main menu

[compact epoch]

damn game crashed after facing a rogue agent 😦 sigh guess back to cyberpunk2077 then

[azure lintel]

imma just leave it for tongiht

wanted to have fun :/

[oak prawn]

im getting another han u pack

[compact epoch]

IKR yet the game doesn't want us to have fun

[oak prawn]

the 1 i could of got had max skill haste and damage

[compact epoch]

damn rip loot

[pliant sentinel]

loving the lwm4! wish it was an AR!

[warm minnow]

every d1 player wishes that aswell. but the closes are Police M4 and Carbine 7.

[pliant sentinel]

it does alot of dmg tho goddamn

[brisk bridge]

"Brutal" difficulty level unlocked.

[sturdy cape]

are there any movement speed buffs other than the lady deaths?

[oak prawn]

i guess RNG gods said yea nope

[brisk bridge]

I crashed once at CD final stage right after killing Hunters before I could pick up the loot all over.

[pliant sentinel]

loving this rifle build milo

[oak prawn]

Remi wanna help me farm for HAN U in a bit

[pliant sentinel]

im down

my agent has 3 pistols on deck

[granite zephyr]

I didn't know I spent so much, time, next thing I know I'm on season lvl 90

Time flies

Guys

Is 500k damage per tick with 20 second duration burn good?

[granite zephyr]

Meanwhile I'm trying to get a yellow attribute rolled Golan for the superior status effect build

[pliant sentinel]

u can farm w us if u want

oh wait nvms hes xbox

[oak prawn]

If he was pc he could join us

[granite zephyr]

Nvm, got the golan

9% skill haste and 8% status effect

Godly

Now to just change the main core to yellow and I'm set to foaming and burning everyone

[whole thistle]

When is Basilisk meant to spawn in Roosevelt Island? I just ran the mission on Challenging to try and get my field research for Gunner done, Wildfire spawned but nothing on Basilisk...

[viscid cargo]

At the obj to eliminate her honor guard, i think its the third last area

[whole thistle]

Hm weird I didn't get that

I did have some rogue agents pop up so maybe they replaced that encounter.

[viscid cargo]

Rogues do replace encounters so likely that happened

[whole thistle]

ah ok ty, running it again now on story so he should spawn now

[viscid cargo]

Don’t think so

[whole thistle]

Ok I've found him now but i kill him before i even break his armor

wtf do i do now

[molten spire]

Restart the mission the long way round, finishing the mission is your choice

in general it's recommended to kill everyone except the Basilisk, then slowly chip away at his armor plates using a pistol so you don't accidentally full auto magdump him to death immediately after breaking a plate

[whole thistle]

I just wiped 3 times after killing him and used different weapons, even killed him pistol only and it STILL didnt break his armor before killing him

this is bs wtf

And it showed multiple times the animation of me breaking his armor yet he still magically has armor

like ??? this game glitchy af

[granite zephyr]

Guys

Nvm

Have to wait for district union to be invaded

For nemesis part

[viscid cargo]

If you’re doing the specialization challenge you need to break all his armor. He has one plate per leg, one per arm, one on his torso and one on his head

[whole thistle]

yea i just killed him and he had one plate on his leg left 😭

[stoic mulch]

How can I get perfect mods. I've crafted and run as targeted loot but I can't even find one

[chrome python]

in like my last 40 hourso f gameplay i've only found 2.

[wheat zinc]

Maxed mods are like anything else, RNG

[viscid cargo]

Set difficulty as high as you can, legendary if you’re up for that, and target mods. And pray RNG is on your side. Personally Im shd700 and the only perfect mod i have is a hsd mod

[brisk bridge]

This is one of the most annoying objectives in the whole game. I suggest using a pistol and blinder firefly and very slowly fire so that after you break his armour in one spot, the next shot does not kill him. (This happens a lot in Story difficulty.)

[whole thistle]

alright ty

[brisk bridge]

Start from his leg armour.

[wise smelt]

It's a huge pain
Having a gun that does "damage to armor", but doesn't have "damage to health" helps.

[surreal orbit]

Does the mag dump from the grenade launcher still work on Basilisk? That’s what I did, all six shots and done,

[brisk bridge]

https://youtu.be/_3LG6LduHJw?t=502

[azure lintel]

Is the next manhunt already out

[whole thistle]

next manhunt isn't for another 2 weeks

micro has been around for like a week now

[azure lintel]

Thats what i meant-

[whole thistle]

well i dont know what you mean by "already out"

like hes been around for a week unless you just havent played for a week

[azure lintel]

I havent lmao 😂

[whole thistle]

ah ok fair

[oak prawn]

Can't wait to kill Anderson and get that sweet new water gun he has

🤣

[midnight slate]

That thing looks like it shoots acid

[potent lava]

Idk wtf happened to this game in the past 3 days but I haven't been able to play a single countdown, I crash everytime. My fps is dropping to 30 and under nonstop. I cleaned my PC and reinstalled game last night wake up today and it still crashing over and over and running at low fps

I get my whole striker gear set in one dz run and go to extract it and my game crashes, well apparently not fast enough cause I was killed by a rogue AFTER my game crashed 😂

[unkempt moat]

Stupid question, are all your drivers up-to-date?

[potent lava]

Yeah I made sure of everything like 2 days ago

[unkempt moat]

Dunno cuz my game always crashes for the first time i boot it up right at the beggining loading screen, then approx. hour later once. And then it runs just fine

[potent lava]

Mine just crashes sometimes when I fast travel and everytime when I play countdown

[granite zephyr]

Guys, I've achieved peak status affect

Tried it in pvp, toasty

[potent lava]

I just realized all the strikers I got from targeted loot went straight to my inventory earlier when my game crashed. Is that a bug or intended? I got it in the dz, never extracted it

[unkempt moat]

Who knows at this point tbh

[granite zephyr]

Who cares

It's free stuff

[unkempt moat]

I really wish Hunter masks didn't take away your hood when you put them on

[granite zephyr]

If I found that out I'd never say it and used the method non stop

And shut off the internet in order to purposefully disconnect

[potent lava]

It's nice to know exactly what's going on. That's what this whole game is built on...

[modest lintel]

it is a glitch

[granite zephyr]

A welcomed one

[modest lintel]

but strikers gears not that hard to get

[potent lava]

I know I just wanted to farm it in a fun way lol

[modest lintel]

have fun

[potent lava]

And I can't play countdown

[granite zephyr]

If there's a glitch in game, and it's not fixed and people are able to capitalize on it, don't blame the players

-looks at them removing Summit farm-

[modest lintel]

summit farm should have been nerfed a long time ago

[granite zephyr]

True, but hey

Already got some xp raked it while it lasted

[unkempt moat]

Exploits are just unintended mechanics

[tender wave]

I've heard reports that some target loot is dropping uncontaminated in the dz since the last patch, so it's probably that. Take advantage while you can!

[oak prawn]

Remember guys there are no bugs they are just added features

[potent lava]

I think it's gear sets. Because I got brand set targeted loot and it was contaminated

[frozen meadow]

It's only the loot you get from clearing landmarks

[tender wave]

Reports I heard suggested it depended on the source of the loot (add drop vs loot crate etc)

[frozen meadow]

^

[tender wave]

Or maybe it's just random! Don't know how much testing has been done

[lament mirage]

Ye

Usually cheese methods as well

[whole thistle]

it took me a whole hour to do that armor kill on the dude for gunner specialization

jfc

[oak prawn]

I did not have to unlock the specs the hard way 1 day I logged on and had them done already didn't even buy the Y1 pass or anything and I got all specs unlocked

I also got all the masks from those specs

[lament mirage]

Which one was that

[frozen meadow]

Basilisk I think

I did it first try

[whole thistle]

basilisk kill all armor plates

[frozen meadow]

It's not that difficult if you use a pist

[whole thistle]

my issue was that i kept doing them in a really shit order and i left the arms to last and then i just ended up accidentally killing him

[modest lintel]

all targeted loot

[lament mirage]

Yep sticky plus the firefly blind n a pistol that's weak

Well the foam chem

Definitely bring a weak pistol as after u remove a bunch of his plates you'll have a high chance of killing him if using a good pistol

[summer trail]

Im new to the game, how good is the crafting system?

Is it the same like division 2?

[oak prawn]

You mean division 1?

Crafting system is good in this game

[summer trail]

Oke

Also the exotic?

[azure lintel]

Nah whatchu mean, is def a nerf gun

[echo cloud]

howdy partner 🔫 🤠

[azure lintel]

Howdy indeed 🔫🤠

[echo cloud]

depends what sort of standards you are expecting. generally speaking, for the genre, i'd say its fine. a lot of RNG involved though

[tender wave]

Game isn't really about crafting, in most cases you're better off farming for decently rolled items. Crafting tends to produce very poor rolls.

[hybrid ore]

^
Crafting is mostly for making gun mods that aren't consumed, and for finishing certain Projects.

[dim rune]

i think it should be if there will be a div3. i mean judging from the enviromental state and society, its all about salvaging and trying to make improvised stuff out of whats left and whats avalible.

would fit more the theme of the "world" around us

[hybrid ore]

Div franchise isn't really a "survival" style game. There's an aspect of that in div1 and it was removed in div2.
For the better, really. There's survival games out there, this just isn't really one of them.

[dim rune]

idk. the story style and the game style kinda going separate ways. story is all about surviving out there and salvaging whats left, etc, while game style is all this high tech combat idk what 😄

[echo cloud]

mostly true, with some exceptions. improvised pieces (dont worry about that now, you'll know what they are for when you need em) for at least one particular niché build, where crafting is the only source of that type of item. and sometimes crafting a gear set item is not too bad, seeing as you only need 1 of the 2 attributes to roll well. but yeah, crafting is more like a side activity rather than a core part of the game

that was actually for @summer trail btw

[echo cloud]

i liked that battle royale ish style mode on division 1. it wasnt very well executed but the concept is nice and the atmosphere on that was really enjoyable. i think it would be a great boost to division 2 to have something similar, more side activities definitely couldnt hurt

in my mind, division 1 and 2 should have been one game where everything from both games is included.. with updated graphics and quality of life things. division 1 had a lot of nice stuff and areas

i also really miss that sniper set, i think it was aces.. which made body shots with sniper rifles count as headshots.. :D

[chrome python]

Aces is so lackluster in 2 :(

[echo cloud]

for sure

im not a fan of it, its rather mediocre. it doesnt really do anything

the bonus shot damage feels completely redundant when you run it in chainkiller builds, because when you got the bonus shot damage from aces you already have a chain killer stack and you are most likely overkilling your target. in norwegian we call this "butter on fat"

[dark matrix]

but you can post the numbers anyways for updoots on reddit

[potent lava]

Can anyone explain what's happening here, so in the DZ the build I'm using with lady death is pretty strong, for someone with 1mil armor I should shred them in not even 1 clip, as it normally does. But I run into some people where It says I do the same damage, but it barely hurts them at all. Is there something that people are using that nullifies incoming damage?

[echo cloud]

defender drone probably. and to rule out the obvious.. youre sure ur not hitting a decoy? 🤓

[potent lava]

Yeah lol

It doesn't happen often but I'll try to pay attention for the drone being a defender drone

Sometimes I just run into someone that won't even have much armor maybe 1mil and I should shred them but I barely do damage, and then somebody with 1.7 mil will run by and I shred them in half a clip

[hybrid ore]

IIRC, Survival sold so poorly that it's been basically ruled out for good.
I'm sure they'll try again at one point, but don't hold your breath.

[mental bison]

Whats something fun to grind

I dont need anything atm

[dark matrix]

make a new character

[mental bison]

No

[dark matrix]

see how long it takes to walk from one side of the map to the next

[mental bison]

Do all nyc bosses have special exotic drop ?

Oh

I looke it up and have all of them

[hybrid ore]

Yes, but all their Exotics are in the main TL pool, no need to farm them out.

You should try one of the more niche builds listed over in #td2-build-advice > 📌 > spreadsheet > builds.
There's some fun combo's in there you don't see run a lot.

[strong ledge]

man, Sweet Dreams with Bloody Knuckles is just short of greatness... SD seriously needs a buff

[echo cloud]

melee needs alot of love before u can csll it viable..

call

[strong ledge]

Rather than the melee damage itself, it's the interaction. Punching an enemy to proc Knuckles damage is good, especially when you get a kill from SD

But SD itself needs to be stronger

[hybrid ore]

Melee's issue isn't really that it needs to be "stronger" or even "faster".
It's that even if you do 1-hit an enemy, there's still a dozen of them and 1 of you.

And there's absolutely no reason to not just bring a gun and shoot them from a safer distance. Even a shotgun has more range than a sword.

[strong ledge]

I actually play CQC with Sweet Dreams all the time and I can manage playing around NPCs without hiding all the way to the white house, but my point is that SD should be stronger as a shotgun

It's a good "oh, crap!" Club, but a terrible gun

[dark matrix]

wondering if they should've made it to also be able to one-shot elites but on a big cooldown

[hybrid ore]

SD is identical to its base weapon, as are pretty much all the Exotics.
It's a relic, a "for fun" gun and not really something meant to be taken seriously.

[strong ledge]

It really isn't

[crisp stump]

tho there are still plenty ppl playing it and asking for its return in the future

[strong ledge]

A SPAS will outperform the Sweet Dreams on all scenarios that involve actually shooting

[dark matrix]

true, but a regular SPAS looks worse

[strong ledge]

Totally

[dark matrix]

I have thought of 2 solutions myself

tie a damage boost to melee kills for it

or what I said about also being able to one-shot elites

to give it some more power

[untold steppe]

Weird you mention the spas loses considering they have the exact same stat build up, but sweet dreams gets more optimal range and spread thanks to having modslots a regular spas wouldn’t have.

[hybrid ore]

Spas-12 and Lullaby have effectively identical stats, the only difference is the HSD+range on the Gold and a slightly faster reload on the Exotic.

[strong ledge]

That is a disingenuous statement

[untold steppe]

If anything, damage falls on the talent, but if you’re already using a high damage shotgun, you wouldn’t be using a damage talent 🤔

[strong ledge]

A damaging talent makes all the difference

The SD has no damaging talent except the meme

[hybrid ore]

Pummel is the only shotgun Talent anyone really uses, outside of maybe Flatline for a Tech Spec.

[strong ledge]

You mean the metaslave choice, that's hardly an argument

[hybrid ore]

Oh I see what the tone is here.
You're welcome to keep going, but just don't go too far with this tone of words.

[untold steppe]

I’m inclined to disagree. if your talent doesn’t change how many shots it takes to down an enemy, it’s useless. That’s made more obvious and random with shotgun pellets.

[strong ledge]

This would work. The buff, not killing an elite. But elites could maybe get shocked or something

[dark matrix]

if they'd do elites I'd definitely tie it to a big cooldown

maybe make it so if you melee elites you cannot melee kill anything else until said debuff goes away too

[hybrid ore]

Why not just make a new shotgun Exotic that specifically shocks Elites?
Maybe give it some other Status effects too, we can call it:

Shooting a target applies stacks of venom, which last for 10s. Increasing stacks adds more severe debuffs to the target.
1 - Poison (PVP Bleed)
3 - Disorient (PVP Disrupt)
6 - Shock (PVP Ensnare)
7 - Target takes 20% damage (from all sources)"```

[dark matrix]

or idk what to call it, cooldown not debuff

[strong ledge]

To think you called me on "the tone" and then go with this

[hybrid ore]

You are literally asking for SD to be changed into Scorpio.
There's nothing else to this. It's a pump-action shotgun where you load 1 shell at a time.

[strong ledge]

Yeah, that'd work. But I still think melee killing an Elite may be too much. But anything is better than what it does right now

[strong ledge]

Ok. Bye then

[dark matrix]

yeah I still doubt it since it does sound a bit broken, but then again I feel like it should be something significant

[echo cloud]

yeah that sounds about right, but that can also be attributed to many many things.. not necessarily that people didnt like the mode. a few things comes to mind, like poor advertisement/marketing, maybe the price wasnt right, maybe the timing was bad, etc. i know it wont come to divi2 tho, game isnt even being developed any more just maintained by a small crew- with all that said, its pretty clear that battle royale games are still very popular so i dont see why a properly executed mode like that wouldnt have success in division universe

[hybrid ore]

I'm not a good person to discuss this with, I hated Survival.
cards on the table.

[dark matrix]

they are basically making Survival standalone now, separate from mainline titles so it must have some sort of pull

not specifically Survival but it follows some of its concepts

[echo cloud]

im ready for division 3 to be honest

[strong ledge]

I think a melee kill on red/purple could grant a weapon damage buff. Then that would help with elites. But meleeing an Elite should also trigger an offensive action like a stagger, a confusion, something

[dark matrix]

and from my experience back in Div 1 days, a lot of people didn't have a high success rate and thus didn't approach the mode that often, but once I helped em through they started liking it more

[untold steppe]

This is actually what it used to do without the kill and increased weapon damage.

[dark matrix]

yeah it's probably a safer bet but idk, it needs something fancier tbh

[echo cloud]

i think the problem with that mode is that division franchise appeals to mostly pve oriented players, and that mode was heavy on the pvp side so it may have been a playerbase conflict there

[dark matrix]

most of the time reds and purples are not the biggest threat at all

[strong ledge]

I don't really recall much of the exotics prewarlords at this time

[dark matrix]

true but PvE was reasonably active still, it was still a fun experience without having to kill others just to survive and prosper, then the Hunter

[strong ledge]

A lot of them do. Take Ninjabike Kneepads, for example. The reload is cool and the bonus armor, but vaulting and C2C?

[untold steppe]

I don’t blame anyone being able to recall. We’re long past the point ;-;

[dark matrix]

yeah a bunch of them needs spicier effects

[strong ledge]

I tried to use Niniabike in CD and it was awful even there. Trying to trigger any of these two actions is so cumbersome it's not worth it

[chrome python]

i want div 1 ninjabike bag back :(

[dark matrix]

yeah you rarely cover enough in CD, a lot more running around

[strong ledge]

Exactly, but even running around you don't find enough stuff to vault over

[dark matrix]

it would be fancy if they brought back dual exotics

[hybrid ore]

It kinda depends on the player, I constantly vault when I'm running around the map, even when it would be faster to just run.

[dark matrix]

like those snipers in 1

I am also a bit afraid to vault now since it locked my character twice lol

[hybrid ore]

"i could just run over there, but there's a car bonnet that needs sliding on"

[strong ledge]

I honestly would just prefer if they worked on the Exotics we have so they're worth it

[hybrid ore]

Most are, just niche.
I'm trying to think of a single Exotic that doesn't have its own weird little corner in div2.

Dynasty, maybe.

[dark matrix]

well problem is those corners are rather dusty and full of webs

we need to bring more life to em apart from spiders

[strong ledge]

Glad to see someone gets it

[hybrid ore]

now Exotic guns, yeah I agree there.

[dark matrix]

recently tried out Chameleon, reasonably effective but I just love the looks

[azure lintel]

not sure if this counts but bullet king is a second favorite of most lmg noobs

[strong ledge]

What is odd to me is that the new Exotics are actually good but then we have duds like ninjabike

[azure lintel]

what is ninjabike I've heard about it but still have no clue what it is

[hybrid ore]

NinjaKnees, Dynasty, Sawyers. All are just a bit old now.

[strong ledge]

Ninjabike Messenger Kneepads reloads your weapon when you do cover to cover or vault

[hybrid ore]

Performing a cover to cover or vaulting reloads your drawn weapon and grants +25% bonus arrmor for 5s.

[azure lintel]

so this is useless

[hybrid ore]

It's not entirely useless, but could do with some tweaks.

[strong ledge]

If it was just changed to include Combat Roll it would be amazeballs

[dark matrix]

another problem I see

Sawyer's Kneepads

she only has one knee now

how come we get 2

[azure lintel]

I mean for me specifically it is useless as I am a noob and run the bullet king till I can get my grubby little hands on a pestilence.

[strong ledge]

BK is actually solid

[dark matrix]

solid gold

[azure lintel]

I run it with armor that boosts ammo cap and damage

but it still doesn't pack the punch of your regular lmgs

[fallow geyser]

iirc, i think her amputation only goes up to her ankle

[dark matrix]

oh

but I still doubt she would need 2 now

[strong ledge]

Do you mean we should get Sawyer's Ankle Guards instead?

[fallow geyser]

sorry i wrote it wrong

i believe its like halfway UP her ankle

[strong ledge]

So... Sawyer's Shin Guards?

[dark matrix]

when Odessa calls our agent Sugar I knew then I found our queen

[fallow geyser]

look, she just lost her foot, ok 💀

she can qualify in the Paralympics, it's enough for all of us

[hybrid ore]

Sawyers "shot in the leg" guard, doesn't have the same ring to it.

[dark matrix]

she's the right amount of ruthless and insulted Bardon with no regrets which is great

[hybrid ore]

She must've been awful, if a Hyena sniper managed to hit her.
imagine being actually hit by a sniper who's high on Spice.

[fallow geyser]

imagine if one of her kneepads had a forged bullet in it

[strong ledge]

They see the matrix and curve bullets. No shame there

[fallow geyser]

just to take the piss out of her

[strong ledge]

I think Odessa was created as a meme. Like "I used to be an agent like you"

[hybrid ore]

She's actually got quite the tragic backstory, but she does come across as quite annoying.

[fallow geyser]

then i took 308 to me fekin shin

[dark matrix]

they took the meme a bit far tbh with the whole lower leg gone

[dark matrix]

she does open up to us eventually though to her credit

[fallow geyser]

tbf, "her weapon" goes hard lowkey

[strong ledge]

Well, an arrow would've been too on the nose

[dark matrix]

explosive crossbow arrow then

[hybrid ore]

I like to think it was actually an Agent that did it, specced to Survivalist.

[oak prawn]

Well guys Scorpio now has a 51 round mag 😂

[fallow geyser]

honestly, Odessa would've been more likeable if they decided "screw it" and cut off her other leg and put her body in a giant seeker mine that she controls with an inhibitor chip

[dark matrix]

damn

[fallow geyser]

ROLLING AROUND LIKE BIGWELD 😭

[oak prawn]

We getting into star wars territory

Inhibitor chip

[fallow geyser]

i got that idea from spider man 2

[oak prawn]

I got it from star wars

[fallow geyser]

the thing that broke when doc oc was zapped

so his arms became sentient

but then again, that's just the movie lore

now it's not even the sentient robot concept anymore 😭

now it's just "me angy, use arm for bad, ruin new york infrastructure"

[hybrid ore]

Thanks for the impromptu review of Spider-Man 2 from 2004, now back to our regular scheduled programming.

[fallow geyser]

Coming up now, our regular debate hour, with Rivens.
Are the BLACK TUSK still in crippling debt after the recent Chemical attacks on Tidal Basin? And what does Alec Baldwin think about it? 🤨

Find out soon, live on SHDLive

[gusty dove]

huh?

[hybrid ore]

Please stop, you're going to make me rewatch Team America again.

[azure lintel]

dew it

[hybrid ore]

if the Div movie was just puppets, I'd buy 3 tickets right now.

[fallow geyser]

Some Punch and Judy shi-

💡

i've got an idea

named or exotic gloves called Punch and Judy

if named, clone the claws out

[azure lintel]

is the div movie out yet? or have they tried to hide it from everyone because it's shit?

[fallow geyser]

if exotic, clone the bloody knuckles

[summer trail]

where can you easy farm exotics?

[hybrid ore]

delayed because Covid.

[azure lintel]

ah

well fuck

[hybrid ore]

Jake Gyllenhaal is also in it, and the last video game movie he was in was....Prince of Persia.

[azure lintel]

who?

[hybrid ore]

the bad guy in the 2nd MCU Spiderman movie.

[azure lintel]

I don't watch much in the way of movies or tv

has anyone seen a shovel ak anywhere? or is that just me?

[fallow geyser]

a s h o v e l a k

[azure lintel]

yeah

[fallow geyser]

if i could grave rob with a Kalashnikov Spade...

[azure lintel]

a shovel ak

[fallow geyser]

i bloody would

[azure lintel]

it's not a literal shovel ak. it's a ak47 with the handle of a shovel as it's stock

[fallow geyser]

AHHAHHAAHHAAHHAA

YOU MEAN THE BLACK MARKET AKM? 😭

[azure lintel]

though the more I think about a shovel ak the more I want to make one now

[fallow geyser]

I LOVE YOU SM FOR THAT, BRO

[azure lintel]

this is your fault for these thoughts

[fallow geyser]

right

so, literally just pray to rngesus with ar targeted loot

[azure lintel]

well I would but I usually get curb stomped everytime I try and pray

if you wish to experience hell I'm playing rust on a 400 pop fresh wipe server

[echo cloud]

lol i forgot about that. willing to place money its going to be a complete flop. you know, 6 months after release you're gonna find it in the $5 DVD basket at walmart along side other classics like SWAT, Armageddon and Boss Baby

[zinc shadow]

it's coming out on netflix though

[hybrid ore]

@heavy sand You're looking for #lfg-playstation

[strong ledge]

I think the director is actually a fan of the first game, so that kinda puts some stuff at ease. But there's usually so many creative differences, studio demands and chopping block compromises, that it ends up not mattering at all

I will just say that if there isn't a scene where 30 bad guys walk out of a utility closet, I will be extremely disappointed

[wise smelt]

Or a warhound levitate.

[graceful basin]

Where can the bullet king drop ?

[hollow forge]

Any word on when the crash fix is coming? I've tried to get through the Micro mission like four or five times now

[hybrid ore]

@graceful basin Same as 90% of loot in div2:
Targeted Loot: [LMG], then either Directives or Countdown.

[graceful basin]

Can the tbk 408 drop on countdown as well ?

[hybrid ore]

Yep, it's not DZ locked.
You should check out #td2-build-advice > 📌 > spreadsheet > weapons. It has a list of all guns in div2 and the drop locations.
LZ = anywhere, DZ = not.

[graceful basin]

Thank you

[echo cloud]

also, video game adaptations generally are complete garbage across the board. with a few exceptions. (arcane)

[dire sundial]

Just set targeted loot to LMG. You can do Countdown or 10th floor farming at summit.

[echo cloud]

10th floor farm was nerfed hard i believe

[strong ledge]

I think that has to do with the expectations of the original audience (gamers) and how it relates to what does not translate well into media like a movie, and (again) studios and hollywood being hollywood

[echo cloud]

spamming countdown is by far the easiest way of getting loot now. plus u can buy boxes for countdown currency on top of all the loot u getting showered on u

[strong ledge]

For example: I don't care about resident evil in the slightest, nor have I played the games. So the last few adaptations like the movie and the netflix now cancelled series don't really strike me as raging garbage

[echo cloud]

well, they should :P

cause they are pretty much the definition of garbage

if we can agree to set aside personal and individual taste preferences, and go by what the collective has judged aforementioned titles (for example by IMDB or rottentomatoes rating), its not good.

[mossy arch]

is it just me or HB kneepads modification is bugged?

[echo cloud]

umbra mask is borked too

[mossy arch]

yeah, this one too. Even if u use it as appearance then it's broke your mask. lol

[strong ledge]

We really can't trust these sources anymore, IMO. Between all the money changing hands and pitchforking online, these sites aren't really trustworthy and everyone should make their own mind

It's like trusting metacritic or youtube for games

[dark matrix]

you can use the strip slots function to remove the umbra appearance

[echo cloud]

wearing umbra masks makes it clip through whatever cosmetic mask you have on too, even if its set to not show, it still shows.. its really buggy

#td2-build-advice message @mossy arch

[echo cloud]

strip slots? huh?

[dire sundial]

You cant do it for shd exp. You still can farm the name for drops. Just kill the name. Pick up loot. And lobby out. Come right back to Same floor. Just don’t kill all the adds.

[dark matrix]

think it was Tab on PC

basically removes everything from all the slots

including Umbra appearance which bugs out the mod slot

[echo cloud]

that does not change the appereance, just removes the mod in it :D

[dark matrix]

it removes everything, appearance mod, mod slot and color slot I am quite sure

[echo cloud]

yes but how does that help when its the umbra default appereance that is bugged

[dark matrix]

I meant in cases where you mod umbra appearance on non-umbra mask

[echo cloud]

right

[brazen mountain]

Your still able to mod it tho

You can’t see the slots but you can mod it just not change it

[dark matrix]

That bugged out on me once

Probably my fault though