td2-general-chat

[safe stag]

So I just did Manning Zoo on hard, invaded, for the weekly timed run and it didn't count.

Did I do something wrong?

[lofty bone]

there should be specific caches you need to open

[frozen meadow]

The drop chance for the parts isn't 100%

Except the blueprint*

[native gate]

okay so basically i just open alot of hyena caches then, random ones or specific ones?

@frozen meadow

[frozen meadow]

Specific ones drop specific parts

[fallow geyser]

yes. you did the invaded variant

[safe stag]

I didn't have a non-invaded hard. weird

[fallow geyser]

however, i shan't mock. This has very easily confused others

so basically, you can change the mission mode at the start

[safe stag]

yeah, I'm aware. I just didn't see the difficulty settings past story for the zoo on non-invaded

might be bc this is a boosted character

[fallow geyser]

the time trial asked for the story mode variant, where you take out Emeline. So basically, you did the invaded variant

[fallow geyser]

nah don't worry. my character is boosted (from messing up) as well and i can do both variants. if you go back to the start of the mission, or hover over it, you should see something that says "Mission Mode"

hold the button it asks for and it should swap

[tender wave]

If you haven't done the non-invaded version on that character before, you'll have to run it on story mode first before it will let you select other difficulties

[safe stag]

That's what I figured

ty

[tender wave]

The caches reset once per day (same time as the daily projects rotate), so if you had no luck with them today try again tomorrow, next day, etc.

[limpid kindle]

I think that the new apparel will be on two weeks, it’s very too early

[safe stag]

got to the monorail in the manning zoo and the ads won't spawn out of the train.

[sleek drift]

Bug

Happened to me when I was trying to kill the gunner dude for the technician thing

If you're on normal just blow yourself up; should reset it

[safe stag]

yesterday it was the ropes on the wing at Roosevelt island. "secure area" but no enemies anywhere.

[safe stag]

yeah, I can't do that. My build keeps me alive for some strange reason. I hit a grenade and my armor just regens immediately. And I didn't bring a different loadout to swap to in order to do that.

[sleek drift]

mf is chiron

desires death, can't die

[brazen mountain]

Good to the mornings everyone

[safe stag]

tis almost 11PM here (Korea). But good morning to you.

[brisk bridge]

It's 7:20 PM here, but greetings. 🙂

[brazen mountain]

Oh then goodnight then Goodmorning

[austere harbor]

Might be a little late but if you ever need to do that in the future throw the grenade directly at your feet and then go into the centre of the circle, it should work

I’ve done it before where I’ve thrown the grenade and been a bit off centre and it doesn’t work

[novel laurel]

No

[tender notch]

can also use the demo launcher at your feet 😄 or mortar skill to self kill

[novel laurel]

It’s because his armor is too high

[brazen mountain]

Ok but when you do that it’s a insta kill no matter what

[novel laurel]

It’s not

[brazen mountain]

I’ve done it with lots of armor and it worked

[novel laurel]

Because you were in combat

[brazen mountain]

I wasn’t

People literally do it in floor 10 farm

Actually nvm

[novel laurel]

Then idk what to tell you, I’ve seen people try to wipe dozens of times, it doesn’t work with armor

[brazen mountain]

Mhm whatever you say

[novel laurel]

You have to throw multiple grenades

[brazen mountain]

Nah every wipe is done with 1 grenade unless you mess it up

I’ve never had to throw multiple grenade to kill my character

It might take multiple with bonus armor tho

[night palm]

Do grenades scale with skill or weapon damage?

[tender wave]

Grenade + explosive sticky can get the job done if you time it right

[brazen mountain]

I’m pretty sure they don’t scale with anything

[tender notch]

with explosive damage or status effect, depends on the grenade.

[smoky stag]

fire sticky
shoot at your feet and insta detonate
works everytime

[brazen mountain]

Oh well that works too

[tender notch]

50% of the time works all the time 😛

[novel laurel]

I got a clip of it

You wanna see?

[brazen mountain]

Dm it

[austere harbor]

Yeah whenever I’ve done it I haven’t been in combat either

[night palm]

I want a reason to play this game again but these crashes are seriously getting in the way

[thorny sluice]

^

i was just about to ask why my game keeps stuttering and crashing

[night palm]

Right, I have a 3070 for fuck sakes. Act like it lol

[austere harbor]

Oof

[thorny sluice]

if i can run tarkov on high i should be able to process all the bobble headed children at the theater 🤣

[safe stag]

I've not experienced a crash yet...but I've experienced some bugs. For instance, the doors to the summit elevator not opening and I can't return to lobby.

[night palm]

If I can run Cyberpunk with ray tracing, I can handle seeing a flash bang with hives and bullets coming at me

[thorny sluice]

if you can run cyberpunk you can run anything

[night palm]

Granted my controls will have a bit of a delay

[safe stag]

cyberpunk the new crysis?

[night palm]

It honestly looks great

[thorny sluice]

cyberpunk was fun

[safe stag]

i meant in terms of "if it can run X' thing

[night palm]

Hell it’s a good game now

[safe stag]

I've not played since release

[fallow geyser]

so uhhh

out of curiosity

[night palm]

Wassup

[fallow geyser]

anyone made a new build that they fell in love with rq?

[thorny sluice]

i cant even play the game without my pc going into shock

[night palm]

I can share my build but it’s a work in progress for PvP

[thorny sluice]

ooo clone how is the pvp is the dark zone still just people camping the entrance?

[fallow geyser]

invaded dzs, yeah people would

but it's even worse now

mouth breathers have found an invis glitch and have been abusing it

[gusty dove]

i dont see many camping from my experience

[night palm]

When has this ever changed?

Invaded dark zones are cancerous

[thorny sluice]

sadge

[sleek drift]

PGC

It's a love/hate build

[thorny sluice]

mouth breathers😳 😩

[fallow geyser]

hey, wanna know what i don't like about the invaded dzs

the extraction music

doesn't sound as heart racing tbh

[safe stag]

Thankfully I've not run into any invisible DZ agents...yet

[gusty dove]

same

[sleek drift]

Got their hands on some of that active camo

[austere harbor]

Tbh I’ve never noticed the extraction music

[safe stag]

Metal Gear Solid called, they want their active camo back

[fallow geyser]

yeah, i can't even go into the dzs until my famas either gets replaced or fixed

[night palm]

There’s one track I will always love hearing in Summit that I can’t find the damn name for

[fallow geyser]

:(

[safe stag]

you all listen to the game music? I just listen to youtube in the bg

[night palm]

It sometimes plays when the rouges come at random times

[sleek drift]

Only in game tracks I like are the Jefferson Trade Center music and the Dragov fight

[brazen mountain]

I listen to Spotify music

[sleek drift]

Maybe rogue agent encounters but a bit too techno-y

[brazen mountain]

On mobile Spotify sucks because too many ad’s

[fallow geyser]

my friend loves the song that plays during the end battle of American History Museum, cuz it's very guitary

[safe stag]

YouTube vanced for mobile, it's YT Red without paying for it.

[sleek drift]

Yeah that's the Jefferson Trade Center music

[fallow geyser]

we keep thinking it sounds like mick gordon

[sleek drift]

You hear it in excess when you fight Coyote

[night palm]

OH ITS THE ROUGE AGENT MUSIC FOR WARLORDS

The mid section plays in Summit that blends in with the music and it’s just perfect

[fallow geyser]

i wish i could mod my game files on xbox

[brazen mountain]

I’ve never really payed attention to div 2’s music but I might look it up on YT just to listen to it since you are all saying it’s good

[fallow geyser]

i wanna replace the rogue encounter music with orphan by slipknot

[sleek drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFQ4lWfaHMQ

Best one imo

[brazen mountain]

I’ll check it out hold up

Sounds more like tactical music

[sleek drift]

Listen to it when it picks up

[brazen mountain]

Alright

[sleek drift]

Fuck I should've named my clan BFG DIVISION

[fallow geyser]

yeah that's the one

that fucking riff, man

🤤🤤🤤

[sleek drift]

Yh, I bump this in the car when I drive. First time I heard this was me watching my friends play bc my game was taking too long to load and I noticed it gave doom vibes

[fallow geyser]

ya know what, using my amateur song mixing skills, i wanna try and make this sound like slipknot lol

[brazen mountain]

DAMN

[sleek drift]

Sadly I don't think most of the other songs in the game even compare, outside of the build up to when you fight Dragov

I need intensity

[brazen mountain]

SOUNDS LIKE MUSIC A COYOTE WOULD LISTEN TO

[sleek drift]

Ya it's the coyote boss fight lol

[brazen mountain]

Exactly

[fallow geyser]

everyone playing the dragov mission at first like "why is this so hard???"

[sleek drift]

Wall Street was bangin'

[fallow geyser]

but i'm out here like WHY IS HE SO TALL????

[brazen mountain]

Ima steal this music

[sleek drift]

I didn't expect it to be like a literal assault on a fort

[fallow geyser]

oh yeah guys, don't you think Wall Street's APC segment might be a reference to Falcon Lost?

[brazen mountain]

Oh it’s done

[sleek drift]

No idea bc idk what that reference is

[astral jacinth]

Not Kajika boss theme?!

[fallow geyser]

Falcon Lost is an incursion in Div1

[sleek drift]

Lemme listen to his boss theme

[austere harbor]

Honestly dragov was easy, sat in those little cubby things and shot him and his goons with oxy till everything broke lol

[brazen mountain]

Send me a link to it on YT

[sleek drift]

Ooh that's where the Summit theme comes from

[fallow geyser]

oh yeah the DZ extraction music is basically Kajika's theme but remixed

[sleek drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqytRFLGU50

lmao the fanart of Kajika makes him look like a gigachad

[brazen mountain]

Damn rock music again

[astral jacinth]

👍

[sleek drift]

Oh boi, Parnell's theme is ❤️

[brazen mountain]

It do

[astral jacinth]

🤕

[sleek drift]

Much better

[fallow geyser]

i swear, guitars in the div soundtrack are just MENTAL

[brazen mountain]

I’m not a fan of rock music but I still think it’s decent

[sleek drift]

Agreed

[fallow geyser]

it sounds like something from SAW where some dudes on a timer

[astral jacinth]

How about keener

Precinct siege

[sleek drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdx6DFkOoks Try this one out

[brazen mountain]

Never heard his music because I never payed attention to it

[brazen mountain]

Ok

More rock music

[sleek drift]

"rock"

[brazen mountain]

It fits the game tho

[fallow geyser]

ok so i have a list of exotics that look perfect together on a character

[night palm]

They went hard on the music…now if only they had this sort of team working on the technical difficulties

[fallow geyser]

Eagle Bearer fits perfectly with Sawyer's Kneepads

Nemesis fits well with either Waveform or Data Gloves

aaaaaand that's all I got

[night palm]

I want to have the option to use 3 exotics at once

[fallow geyser]

anyone got any ideas?

[brazen mountain]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cxr-7OecKog this is what I’d listen to while roaming the streets

[astral jacinth]

https://youtu.be/-cisdzmIOGk

[night palm]

EB and Momento

[fallow geyser]

hmmmm

[brazen mountain]

Alright I’ll listen to that gimme a sec

[fallow geyser]

i don't know honestly

plus, if a hunter got their hands on an EB...

💀💀💀bruh we ded lmaooooo

[night palm]

That’s essentially what my build is trying to be

[brazen mountain]

I’d be shaking

Tanky with even more dmg

[fallow geyser]

the hunter... is still the hunter, idk what u expect

[night palm]

Imagine a Tank DPS that heals 30% armor on kill

[fallow geyser]

already got one

35% AOK

430k+ every kill

[brazen mountain]

I’m trying to make a hunter build for pvp

[fallow geyser]

150% HSD

with EB, obviously

and i fucking love it

[brazen mountain]

Wear a hunter outfit and everything with a EB and memento back pack if I can put that in

[fallow geyser]

sadly I don't have another viable piece of SC, so i have to resort to 2 piece Uzina

[night palm]

I use momento, and that one chest piece that has a 75% chance to not use an armor kit and increases the effectiveness by 300% for maximum survivability

[fallow geyser]

i use headhunter for the extra damage

still clueless on how it works 💀

[night palm]

I just make all my attributes crit stats

[fallow geyser]

I've had some moments where it's a full bar

but mostly, it's halfway

[night palm]

So I have 3 red and 4 blue

[astral jacinth]

Go 6 blue

[fallow geyser]

ik for a fact you're expertise lvl 21

don't lie pal

just say it lol

[night palm]

But my crit chance comes from those red pieces

[fallow geyser]

ummm... wdym by that?

[night palm]

I’d have to look again because it’s been a while since I’ve played tbh

[fallow geyser]

cuz lemme just quicly say

red cores ≠ CHC+CHD

[astral jacinth]

🥺

[gusty dove]

lol

grinding that max expertise

[night palm]

Ok so I haven’t been on in a while, what’s expertise again?

[rich shadow]

wht weapon you using HeadHunter with?

[night palm]

He said EB iirc

Doesn’t headhunter only work with snipers?

[rich shadow]

Thats a complete waste of a chest talent. HH works by getting consecutive headshot kills, one after another. Once you hit a body shot the talent is un-procced

So Sniper builds, Shotgun / Regulus HF builds

[fallow geyser]

well it's a chest piece talent

it works like a charm with eb

from my exp

[tepid briar]

tfw somebody starts the extraction while theres 3 min left and a ton of enemies

[night palm]

I mean the EB is accurate as fuck so maybe IT really CAN work

[rich shadow]

nope

sorry to say

[night palm]

Plus EB comes with headshot damage

[tepid briar]

i ditch everbody as soon as the heli came

[rich shadow]

trust me

im not trying to piss on your chips - ive tested it and sadly its just a waste of a talent

[night palm]

Obliterate will work ok though

[rich shadow]

Try Obliterate

haha, yes

[night palm]

I did obliterate and it felt nice

That and the named AA-12 shotgun goes hard

[tepid briar]

is there a pve shotgun build? I notice people were doming the adds with shotguns in countdown

[fallow geyser]

well at the moment, i am sticking with HH. it's done me justice but i'm sure i'll have to find another

[night palm]

Use badgers, make crit stats, go ham

[fickle sinew]

Probably strikers/heartbreaker

[fallow geyser]

Scorpio + Catharsis + 70% PFE + Survivalist Specialization

works wonders for me in CD

[novel laurel]

HF with 1 badger and either a walker or providence if they were going for headshots

[fickle sinew]

Got a question for u guys. Just getting back into this game and trying to get memento backpack. Any clue what the best activity to farm it in would be? I know I wanna do backpack targeted loot but like should I do open world/summit/countdown? I can handle heroic content. No legendary yet

[novel laurel]

Countdown or floor 10 set targeted loot to backpack

And pray to the RNG gods

[fickle sinew]

Floor 10?

Of summit?

[novel laurel]

Floor 10 summit

[fallow geyser]

hit F10 then reset

[novel laurel]

It’s a farm that’s popular rn

There’s lots of videos on it

[fickle sinew]

Ahh I see. I've gotten 4 exotic backpack drops now and they have all been the stupid go pack or whatever it's called 😦

Blocking it out of my memory because it's traumatizing lol

[novel laurel]

https://youtu.be/lbS5-Pm5Iok

[fickle sinew]

tytyty

[fallow geyser]

ooooooooh acosta ooooooo spooky

[safe stag]

Literally took me until the two exotic crates this season to get my first memento

[fickle sinew]

Jeesh

So many builds use it too .-.

Heartbreaker? Memento. Strikers? Memento. Umbra? Memento. Hybrid build? Memento.

[novel laurel]

You can also buy exotic caches from countdown vendor, as well some season rewards are available for completing missions

[fallow geyser]

im not gonna lie, im trying to get all the variations of Acosta's bag

[night palm]

It’s the everything backpack

[novel laurel]

Wdym?

[fickle sinew]

Yeeeeppppp -_-

[fallow geyser]

the colour of the straps vary depending on what faction dropped it

[safe stag]

I mean, it gives one of each core

[fallow geyser]

if i'm correct:
hyenas drop green
true sons drop red
outcast drop yellow
bt drop blue

[night palm]

Where can I find this vendor?

[night palm]

Pretty sure BT drop black

[fallow geyser]

at WH or Haven

[night palm]

It makes sense if it did

[fickle sinew]

I wanna make a hybrid set with cap and memento seems super mandatory low key

[brisk bridge]

Just past the seasonal vendor. Run from the WH towards the helicopter area and it's on the right side. Not very obvious.

[fallow geyser]

yeah, nah. only encountered blue

The colour of the straps also vary depending on what loot box you open up

[night palm]

Imma check it out after work and see what’s over there

[celest marten]

any news on TU 16.1?

[fallow geyser]

same rule applies

[tepid briar]

Hmm

[night palm]

Having to switch from console to PC set me back a couple years of progress so…

[tepid briar]

Guess im farming heart breaker

same

[night palm]

I actually ended up having someone boost my account for an exotic I did NOT want to farm for again….the EB

[lament mirage]

So we got a new exotic pistol

[night palm]

Regulous?

[lament mirage]

No

[night palm]

Or the Deagle with the dog tags on it

[lament mirage]

There’s a new one in the new season

I seen it on yt

[silver ridge]

a quick question, do hunters spawn at the start of the round in solo countdown?

[night palm]

Aww shit for real?

[fallow geyser]

boost?

[lament mirage]

Yea

[fallow geyser]

as in illegally?

[lament mirage]

Busy lil bee

[fallow geyser]

you're a little late to the party

but the BLB fucking slaps

[night palm]

I’ll have to check that out

[lament mirage]

Yea haven’t kept up to date with td2 busy on other games

[fallow geyser]

Haven't tried it yet but at full stacks on a skill build, turrets do 1.1 mil hits

[gusty dove]

especially on skill builds with turrets apparently

[night palm]

I paid for someone to log into my account with their group of people to farm for the EB until completion, got my account handed back with it in my inventory, along with a couple levels….happened within a couple hours

[lament mirage]

Intentionally or nah

[fast phoenix]

How do you get busy little bee? I thought it didn’t come out h til later

Until

[safe stag]

season rewards

[night palm]

My guess is season rewards

[fallow geyser]

its on the season track

[fast phoenix]

The free track?

[fair lake]

yes

[fast phoenix]

Oh

[fallow geyser]

intentionally

[fast phoenix]

Dang I need to start grinding then lol

[lament mirage]

Like 85 ish in the season track free

[fair lake]

lvl 85 or 90, don't remember

[night palm]

I’m gonna play the shit out of missions for levels when I’m home

[lament mirage]

Dz landmarks be nice

[fallow geyser]

im 2 levels off getting that deagle skin 🤤🤤🤤

[night palm]

I honestly hate DZ

[fallow geyser]

DYING TO GET HOME

CMON, TRAM, ARRIVE FASTER

[lament mirage]

I love it

[night palm]

4 more hours until I’m home

[fast phoenix]

Is it a skill build? How does it compare to the capacitor?

[lament mirage]

Dz>> lz for me

[fallow geyser]

I'll get back in dz when my famas gets replaced or fixed

[lament mirage]

I think it’s more for weapons intentionally but skills benefit from it

[fallow geyser]

skill builds always make me laugh

it took me weeks to get my first all red dps build finished

made a skill build in like 3 days 💀💀

[lament mirage]

All red is nice to have

[fast phoenix]

I just saw the talent how does it benefit skills?

[lament mirage]

It works on skills y the guy above said ur turrent could hit 1.1 mill

[fast phoenix]

So the 20% increases not just pistol damage?

[lament mirage]

Don’t think so

[fast phoenix]

Wait then how does turret hit 1.1 mil

[fallow geyser]

damn, i always out here getting called a fella 😔 real sad girl hours

[lament mirage]

My bad girl

[fallow geyser]

it's aight lol, i expect it nor do i care and make a big fuss. not a wide majority of female players here

[midnight lotus]

Chat,is umbra meta?

Also im here to spread lwm4 propaganda

[lament mirage]

Umbra??

[fallow geyser]

i mean there are obviously a lot of girls here but not as much as bois

[fallow geyser]

it's absolutely brilliant

[midnight lotus]

Umbra initiative

[fallow geyser]

shreds rogues like paper, from what i've heard

[lament mirage]

Girl gamers will rise

[lament mirage]

Never heard

[fallow geyser]

dying to try it but i gotts decide what build to replace

[midnight lotus]

Interesting,will try it out

[gusty dove]

if it's meta idk, but it's decent

[night palm]

Meta this, meta that, have you ever meta fucking girl before?

[fallow geyser]

where were u when the update dropped lol

[fallow geyser]

damn, don't give me ideas 🧍‍♀️

[midnight lotus]

Gf can’t delete hunters in under a mag tho so who needs them:p

[gusty dove]

lol

[night palm]

Well maybe you haven’t given her a good build

[midnight lotus]

Fun fact:at 60% chc and boomerang you can shoot 100 rounds of a lwm4 if you’re lucky

[full zinc]

It says wd on talent but in reality each 20% acts like an amp to weapons and skills. Not intended but happy accident. BLB Better than capacitor buff at just 2 Marks on afk turret build

[midnight lotus]

Welp she better figure it out for herself

Oh yea thats a bug

[fallow geyser]

all u need is 3 rounds of .45 ACP

Just as christ intended

[midnight lotus]

Umbra buff works with skills too

[midnight lotus]

Tbf nothing in this world that 3 bullets can’t solve

[lament mirage]

playing ER , WF , BF , GTA , etc…

[midnight lotus]

I mean except the fat guy in the 100kg iron body armor

But someone one shotted the fat guy in Dark Hours so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brazen mountain]

Idk what ER is but he says he’s been playing warframe, battlefield, and obviously GTA

[midnight lotus]

Elden ring obviously

[fallow geyser]

Elden Rinse your hands, you scruff

[night palm]

Didn’t realize there was a 4 year old here

[sleek drift]

I love how peeved people get from crude humor

[night palm]

It’s not even crude, it’s just dumb

[sleek drift]

It got it's desired effect

[midnight lotus]

So anyway

Use lwm4,its actually pretty cool

[night palm]

I what is that named 1887? Is it any good?

[midnight lotus]

The Virginian,and tbh its pretty fine

[grave sequoia]

The buff on the gun is fun to play with

[fallow geyser]

honestly i just see it as a collector's item

[midnight lotus]

With a bit of RNG in the play you can chain 15 shots back to back without reloading

[fallow geyser]

what talent is it? perfect boomerang or smth?

[midnight lotus]

Yup thats it

[night palm]

Perfect boomerang

[fallow geyser]

aaaah

right

[lament mirage]

Good in td1

[midnight lotus]

still decent in div2

trust me at first when someone told me that i laughed at them

[lament mirage]

Lacks full semi suto

[midnight lotus]

Tap it real fast then

[lament mirage]

It’s not the same

[grave sequoia]

I got a m1 with lucky shot witch is nice but need to farm for the gear set to make it unstoppable lol

Max stats too

[midnight lotus]

Yea but sometimes you have to adapt

[grave sequoia]

I have a few max gear sets but want to try and make one for all types

Im looking for a good handgun set now for summit but not sure on what to go for yet

[fast phoenix]

What’s the fastest way to level up my season level? Countdown?

[midnight lotus]

Lincoln memorial farm

[full zinc]

Summit f10

[fast phoenix]

@full zinc I thought they were punishing people for summit

Also idk how the glitch works

[midnight lotus]

You dont need to be the greatest player on the planet to get sub 6 min on lincoln

[full zinc]

Yeah. Punish 90% of community?

[midnight lotus]

Dont even bother looting and just pick them all up on your final run

90% of the time its trash that you dont want

[tender wave]

They're investigating a fix for floor 10 but I'd be very surprised (and amused) if they punished anyone for it

[midnight lotus]

Just farm lincoln

[full zinc]

Itll get nerfed. In a few months maybe

[midnight lotus]

Its literally the most effective thing to do

[fast phoenix]

How do I farm Lincoln?

[full zinc]

F10 is fastest hands down

[fast phoenix]

How do I do 10?

[midnight lotus]

Go to lincoln memorial,set it to heroic with 2 easy directives

Boom,run it through,rinse and repeat

Its also the easiest mission in the game

[fast phoenix]

Hmm I can barely take heroic control points

By barely I mean I need to call for backup lol

[full zinc]

It simple eclipse fire middle of room, stinger hive door .
Can use afk build even solo. But yt it for good strategy and much explanation

Challenging f10 7dir (no skills or ragers) is fast and gives 366k per clear

[fast phoenix]

And then I kill myself afterr?

Or restart floor 1?

[full zinc]

Kill self

End up in elevator

Rinse and repeat

With duo 1 running ep fire 1 running oxi can be a clear in 30 seconds. 2 clears a watch level or shd/minute. Skilled players do this faster with practice.

But even afk can Clear under these conditions in a couple minutes solo

Need right floor. A vid can show what it looks like and basic strat.

[austere harbor]

Aren’t there windows on the left side when coming out the elevator

[full zinc]

Yeah

[tepid briar]

My heart breaker substat rolls are shit

[austere harbor]

Rip

[tepid briar]

😩

2 out of all the Heart breaker gear I have are red

and 1 of them is weapon handling

[neon kelp]

i heard assaults rifle have a problem with rifle damage

is that to new dropped or to old ones

[tepid briar]

The other one is Crit chance

[vapid breach]

When I first did it, it took me a week of countdown every day for 4 hours to get a full set with crit hit damage and one crit hit chance

But, when I would escort a newb through countdown later on, there were times that we got a full set for a red build after one match

[fallow geyser]

afaik, ones you already have. Already had one of my best guns suffer this fate. luckily it's one that is easily replacable 😆

[austere harbor]

I’m still tryna get that one grupo chest with chd/chc attributes

Pain in the ass

[fickle sinew]

hmm. if im at floor 61 already of summit should i finish that before i do level 10 farm?

cuz that gives an exoitc cache right?

[austere harbor]

I think so

[tepid briar]

Im gonna kms

I dismantle my Chameleon

and I didnt realize

[sleek drift]

You'll find like 10 more

[tepid briar]

Gotta have to farm CD for Heatbreaker and another Chameleon now

[sleek drift]

Literally just do bounties

I got 3 in 1 hour

[full zinc]

You can do the f10 farm on any boss floor. So you can hit 70 if you want. But you'll have 3 named at that level.
You can also just lfg and keep your checkpoint. If someone is already on f10 your CP will still be at 61 after you join them.

[tepid briar]

Oh

It does drop in Bounties

nice

if im running Hearbreaker

Should my secondary be a shotgun?

[sleek drift]

Standard is ACS

If you're in their face you can get stacks up obnoxiously high; I ran flatline on mine so I could also use it to mog at close range

HB got boring tho

[lament mirage]

ACS flatline or rock and roll

[sleek drift]

I don't have Rock n Roll

[fickle sinew]

is it even worth completing floor 100?

[lament mirage]

Hunter's are nice

[sleek drift]

Hunter mask / Ridgeway's Pride if you care about it

[full zinc]

For ridgeways project if you want that exotic

[fickle sinew]

hmm. might not be able to do f10 farm for a bit then lol

back to countdown i suppose

[mental bison]

I can get exotics from summit right ?

[full zinc]

Yeah

[mental bison]

Pestilence too?

[full zinc]

Yeah. Just not raid exotics or exotics you havent done a project for.
Pesti will drop on lmg target

[mental bison]

Okay

Some random is trying to get f 20 farm rn with me

Cant get the right room 🗿

[full zinc]

20 same as 10

Yeah that's the struggle sometime 😅

[mental bison]

But if this gets me pestilence

[vapid breach]

I have really bad fl luck lol. Almost always takes me over 5 attempts. Once we were well over 15 😂

[mental bison]

God dam

Zero luck

[fickle sinew]

there's no project or anyting i have to do to get memento right?

like its just a general loot pool drop

[novel laurel]

Yep @fickle sinew

[dusk trench]

I dunno why the year 1 pass is still so expensive. I just wanna do the exclusive missions...

[whole marten]

my game has been crashing a lot recently on pc, anyone else having that issue?

[zinc shadow]

Yes

[knotty wave]

What happens if you don't extract in countdown once the timer reaches zero? I mean after the heli arrives?

[tender wave]

you get fewer coins to spend at the countdown vendor

(you only get half of what you would have got if you had extracted)

[knotty wave]

I see, ok thanks

[tepid briar]

is Darkzone hard

I wanna get the rock n roll

[dusk flower]

It all depends on who else is in there

[oak prawn]

Can be lot of people running around with expertise 20 on thier guns Pulse immune builds it can be but it can also be fun

[brisk bridge]

Half of all PC players

[oak prawn]

You can do a glitvh to get into a empty DZ

[tepid briar]

👀

[oak prawn]

Idk how to do it but it's not hard

[knotty wave]

Can't believe my luck today

I got the chameleon, scorpio and the bullet King 😂

[oak prawn]

Scorpio is very good

[knotty wave]

Just picked it up, will test tomorrow hahah oh my what a day 😂

[sleek drift]

I found out how good it was when I shocked a hunter w/ it then mag dumped him and rekt him

[knotty wave]

I look forward to this haha

[brisk bridge]

Scorpio is OP

[sleek drift]

Kinda wanna see how well it goes on a shotty only HF build

[mental bison]

Got first exotic armour

Ninja pads

[crystal copper]

Guys i have question

[brazen mountain]

Especially against hunters

[brisk bridge]

Well, ask.

[frozen meadow]

me getting 20 mil dps with a mop

[clever creek]

Countdown as a mission seems pointless. You go to a plant to repair everything and remove hostile threats, but you extract from the plant with a ton of enemies swarming you meaning they'll take it over again

Theres fox's prayer knee pads at the Theater shop with max Weapon damage

[sleek drift]

What's the other stat on it

[bitter wraith]

Why did they add miliseconds to the dz departure timer?

[clever creek]

Status effect

8.1%

[gentle kayak]

Why is targeted loot broken in the DZ

[reef reef]

because it feels like it

[bitter wraith]

Whens floor 10 patch? Need to do it rn 105 times

[clever creek]

Nobody said it was going to be patched but do it while you can

[dusk sable]

They literally said they're fixing it lmao

[clever creek]

Where

[gentle kayak]

Actually they did say it was gonna patched on Reddit

[sleek drift]

le reddit

[clever creek]

Oh I don't use reddit

[sleek drift]

leddit

[dusk sable]

It's also on trello if you looked

[bitter wraith]

Ironic for me considering i said it wasnt worth it (it is compared to 12180 countdown points)

[gentle kayak]

And they said they are run a script and ban the people that did the 10 floor exploit permanently

[reef reef]

Fairly certain they didnt.

[bitter wraith]

If i get banned ima honestly just delete the game but i doubt i will

[gentle kayak]

You can’t delete the game your addicted to it just everyone on this page

[sleek drift]

Just find a new addiction

[bitter wraith]

I know. But i can force myself to if i have to

[oak prawn]

music

[bitter wraith]

But not one that wrecks your health

[sleek drift]

music is bae

[oak prawn]

music lets me escape from the idiots of this world and it dont judge me

[sleek drift]

this nasally black tusk soldier sounds cute

[oak prawn]

patience has a crush you have a crush

[sleek drift]

lmao

[oak prawn]

go on ask him out

[sleek drift]

ye for a nerdy black tusk who i'm about to slaughter

its the bt in darpa labs

nasally dudes sound bullyable

[bitter wraith]

The people who know what music i listen to judge me lmao

[sleek drift]

it takes every facet of my being to not rage when manny talks

k shot my crush

[gentle kayak]

Rap sucks

[reef reef]

Everyone has their opinions, but no need to push it on others.

[novel laurel]

Nope I still got Dayz

[fiery cloud]

Hey Aspect

[brisk bridge]

The mortar build may kill more enemies on missions in absolute numbers, but the cacophony from it is not worth it, IMO.

[vivid panther]

does anyone knows when that invisibility glitch gonna get fixed in pvp

this shit going on about like 4 months now

[gentle kayak]

PvP is broken

[bitter wraith]

Always has been

[gentle kayak]

No gear should be DZ exclusive

[reef reef]

Thankfully theres a fairly easy way to get DZ exclusive gear now, with countdown credits.

[sleek drift]

Oh that's the use of CD

So you can buy named caches and shit from it?

[reef reef]

its a nice farming spot and you can grab exotic caches and named caches from it, along with some other stuff as well

[dusk sable]

Used to be a nice farming spot before they nerfed it

[reef reef]

Still better than a lot of missions, thats for sure.

[dusk sable]

Yeah if you can manage not to crash before the end where you get your majority of your loot

[near stone]

Where's Kelso? I finished the Manhunt and did the audio logs but I can't search for answers

[gusty dove]

except when you are farming for System corruption

[brisk bridge]

Stuck with the same bug. No Kelso.

[reef reef]

syscorr? whats that? never heard of it.
Sarcastic of course, but yeah, thats still the worst to farm, and very likely the worst set otherwise.

[near stone]

got it

[full zinc]

With upcoming ge you can farm system cor from legacy caches 👍

[coral loom]

Just curious about everyone's opinion on what do u think about a 0.4% increase per stack in RPM instead of 0.3% for umbra initiative

[foggy lotus]

Boosted the server

[mossy arch]

fix crashes please
thx

[iron fable]

It's not an exploit,

[full zinc]

It's under "investigating" on the known issues board as unintended. 😅

Get it in while you can I guess. Probably got a couple months

[gentle kayak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/xjlasa/say_goodbye_to_floor_10_farm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[fast phoenix]

But that’s a user suggesting it not a developer

I can suggest anyone over SHD level 10000 get banned. But Ubisoft isn’t going to do that obviously

[timber hatch]

lol theres plenty of players over 10k who are completely legit

[fast phoenix]

I know that was just an example

[prime geode]

What current patch are we on?

[mossy arch]

fix crashes please
thx

[fast phoenix]

Because the Reddit post doesn’t mention Ubisoft saying they’re banning or removing SHD levels it’s a random user suggesting it

[gentle kayak]

It’s on their trello page ( Ubisoft)

[prime geode]

So... is it TU16?

[gentle kayak]

People are to lazy to farm so they gotta cheat somehow

[vapid breach]

People are so weird lol. Idk why someone grinding a boring thing is such a personal attack for some people. This. Is. A. Game.

[timber hatch]

We are currently on TU16, waiting on a 16.1 patch that should be coming soon, although no date for that has been announced

[prime geode]

Thank you Raucey, Exactly the answer I was looking for. ❤️

[mossy arch]

would it fix crashes?

why they cant hire the same coders from India who made Div 1 for them? ><

[timber hatch]

If these devs had any clue how, they would. So no.

[mossy arch]

DARPA: popped flare at 14^30 mission 'finished' at 15^10
why should I wait for stupid helicopter to arrive? WHOLE 40 seconds for this!
tf?

[scenic wraith]

Why am i crashing again

second time now

Didnt crash before

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

[gilded coral]

racist is bannable?

[reef reef]

Do not ping mods or Ubisoft staff.

[gilded coral]

He is both cursing and racist.

[reef reef]

If you have something to report, report it through Modmail.

[gilded coral]

ok

i send modmail message right ?

[reef reef]

yes.

[gilded coral]

oki thnx

but i don't think you care.

everyone players racist

[mental bison]

Everyone is racist

Simple as

[fast phoenix]

what are the yellow textiles for? like I used to be able to buy clothing I wanted but not anymore?

[limber orchid]

Yikes floor 10 are gonna get patched in an upcoming patch.. Some loser went to forum and cry about it. Crybabies always win guys

[gilded coral]

'I'm sorry, we just moderate this server. We cannot take action against anything in game unless this user is also in the server.'

[reef reef]

Its been disabled for now due to a premium currency bug.

[gilded coral]

what the hell ?

[fast phoenix]

oh so I will be able to buy clothes in the future with them right?

I thought they turn them off after we have a certain % of clothes but I guess its not hte case?

[wraith current]

I'm sitting on 4000 textiles rn lol

[gusty dove]

mfw 11260 textiles lol

[wraith current]

Lol nice

[reef reef]

This server is anti-racist. Full stop.

[gilded coral]

but you are not doing anything

[vapid breach]

I swear CD players are something else. Guy is kicking players left and right and then comes in with drone and doing damn near no damage to boss. First person to die at the beginning and first person to leave the game

[fast phoenix]

CD players?

[full zinc]

Investigating... not even in process. Lot bigger fish to fry and problems to fix. I'm sure this is top of the list 🤣 🤣

Not a big deal anyways. Especially whe. You can wony run and double your watch points

[vapid breach]

Countdown

[gusty dove]

.. would have left that game already tbh

[reef reef]

Because that player is not in this server. We just moderate this server, not the whole game. The orange names in this server do not work for ubisoft.

[scenic wraith]

I crashed just when i was about to take a god roll item

[fast phoenix]

Ive had a terrible experience with some guy called "Aussie" this guy literally screamed at 2 other people in my raid for low SHD level and not having optimal gear, gets them kicked calling them smoothebrains and then he just quits the raid.

Like relax not everyone is SHD level 12000

[wraith current]

Oof. That sucks. Sorry to hear

[brazen mountain]

I just got back here and he has a goodpoint ngl

Also what’s up people

[full zinc]

🍻

[vapid breach]

I don’t mind the kicking, and I did check and most people he kicked had terrible sets. I would have kicked too. I just don’t understand how you can feel the authority to kick if you can’t pull your own weight either!

[scenic wraith]

Typical my luck

🤣

[wraith current]

This is another reason I haven't done one yet lol

[reef reef]

If the user he was reporting was in this server, we would ban them.

[wraith current]

Too much pressure and too much setup for it all to fall apart so fast

[fast phoenix]

I mean its a raid that hes probably done thousands of times. Whats a couple people with suboptimal gear gonna do to him? like its PVE raid not a PVP championship match with $10000 on the line

[brazen mountain]

Yea I get that you cannot ban in game players it makes sense since you moderate the server and not the game

[brazen mountain]

Sounds like a handful

[wraith current]

Yea I'm saying I would be one to get kicked because i haven't done the raid like him 1000 times lol. I would be considered a sub optimal player lol

[brazen mountain]

People do that in countdown too sometimes

[wraith current]

I got a nice loadout too. Just not knowledgable on the raids

[fast phoenix]

yeah i've seen people get kicked in countdown. I've done it 10 times and i think maybe once someone got kicked

[wraith current]

Yea countdown too. I'm not learned up on everything that goes on in countdown yet either lol. I've run it maybe twice and that's it lol

[brazen mountain]

Any SHD level below 100 in countdown will be kicked because they don’t wanna spend days trying to get SHD 100 and need gear

[fast phoenix]

I do it on challenging and its honestly not even that bad

maybe theyre getting kicked in heroic more?

[full zinc]

It's funny too. Regardless of shd you can still have an effective build. Especially if following the advice here

[wraith current]

Heroic for sure

[brazen mountain]

That would make more sense

[brazen mountain]

Exactly

[wraith current]

Maybe I should just matchmake on challenging. I sometimes forget about the lower difficulties honestly

[fast phoenix]

yeah @full zinc like a shd level 100 with all red or all blue for tank is still better than a shd level like 500 who just has random armor put on

challenging countdown isn't toxic at all and still get decent drops

[scenic wraith]

Im on Heroic making a new build

[fast phoenix]

and i finish and extract every time as well so its easy to farm the tokens for the chests

[full zinc]

Shd means nothing. What's 10% of anything tbf

[scenic wraith]

But i just cant fiind the new mask

[wraith current]

I just need to farm for named item caches really

[vapid breach]

Or how about kick both lol. We don’t need a tank in heroic countdown at all.

[scenic wraith]

cataracarcarcrarar mask or what ever its called

[wraith current]

Not even in need of the drops from countdown so much

[fast phoenix]

i mean its countdown i dont care what others use

[brazen mountain]

Like people don’t need to be picky about the players they get sometimes

[full zinc]

Ppl were running hardest content before watch existed correct?

[brazen mountain]

Yep

[wraith current]

Probably

[fast phoenix]

i dont even look at gears others have lol

[mossy arch]

DARPA 15 min
Roosvelt... 1h ... One Hour
What I'm supposed to do there? Go to dinner? fall asleep? lol

[sleek drift]

Cheese it and forget

I lul'd at some of the times too

[wraith current]

I appreciate the 1 hour for manning tbh. I hate speeding through that one

[brazen mountain]

Roosvelt is something I’ll never forget

[oak prawn]

I soled mine in under 25 mins

[brazen mountain]

Legendary roosvelt was something else

Not too bad tho

[gusty dove]

manning is long af though ngl

[oak prawn]

I dud trig league Manning under 25 mins solo reason it too so long was cause a add was stuck in a door and I couldn't kill him fir 5 mins so

[sleek drift]

It exhausts me because I have memories of fucking up my Technician spec and having to re-run it again

[brazen mountain]

I did it trying to do a challenge and it was tedious but that was when I was weak

[oak prawn]

I did Roosevelt in under 15 mins

[wraith current]

I did both roosevelt and manning in around 20 min.

[oak prawn]

Darpa is the real pain

So are the hyena elites

[wraith current]

I got 17 min exactly on darpa

That damn chopper dude

[gusty dove]

not too bad if you do it in a group

[brazen mountain]

I haven’t done darpa is so long

[vapid breach]

Having been on both sides of this, I really think a lot of it comes down to low level shds never being able to really be in a lobby where everyone is high level shd (with good sets) I think that until you really are there you lack the perspective of why it’s frustrating when even just one or two can’t pull their weight.

[gusty dove]

same, only done darpa for the trig league

[brazen mountain]

Last time you said low SHD levels should be kicked

[vapid breach]

The compromise for me is: check the set. Good set, keep. Bad set, kick.

[vapid breach]

This does not contradict what I wrote 👀

[wraith current]

The only coop I really play is responding to backup requests

[brazen mountain]

Also most low SHD levels do countdown for gear to get stronger

[sleek drift]

Haven't touched a group in this game yet outside of playing with my friends

[wraith current]

So I'm fine with playing with underleveled ppl

[brazen mountain]

Really?!

[vapid breach]

And I’m saying that’s unreasonable. No one is saying you all can’t play challenging countdown for gear. We just don’t want you in heroic. It’s senseless.

[sleek drift]

No, I ran a solo countdown on normal last night just to get a feel for it

Haven't touched a raid or CD yet

[wraith current]

I did the same the other day

[oak prawn]

I mean I'm ShD level 511 and I do just fine in heroic CD

[sleek drift]

8 people sounds rage inducing

[brazen mountain]

Now that your talking about heroic I get ya

[sleek drift]

Though I need to chill the fuck out and do it for raiding purposes

[wet igloo]

I think of 8 people raging at each other in a raid when you say that

[vapid breach]

The exception is not the rule

[sleek drift]

I never really saw the point to CD but then I learned you can get named caches and shit

So I guess there's value

[wraith current]

Yea it's only named item caches for me

[austere harbor]

I just run it for exotic caches lol

[oak prawn]

I mean in heroic hunters are stupid tanky so there's thar

[brazen mountain]

AND exotic caches

[oak prawn]

That

[sleek drift]

Got all I want so far, I guess it means more for expertise grind

[oak prawn]

Expertise is not a must you domt need it unless you pvp alot

[wraith current]

I just free roam for expertise stuff

[sleek drift]

Trying to put my PvP shit together

[vapid breach]

And that’s all it comes down to. It’s frustrating to be able to damage a hunter down to a sliver of health, but your teammates do no DPS with their blue cores and you want hunter heal all the way up while you reload.

[oak prawn]

Im all red so

Riot foam banshee and Scorpio help alot with hunters

[vapid breach]

And this is what it comes down to. Remember, most of the game’s players aren’t regular discord or Reddit users. In fact, most people are just figuring things out on their own. So, that’s why exceptions get grouped into the norm. The majority of low level shds matchmaking into heroic CD are bad. I could make a collections of screenshots

[brazen mountain]

Again Scorpio is OP against hunters

[sleek drift]

The majority is usually overwhelming medicore period

Most of the sweaties / theorycrafters sit around here

[full zinc]

Stop looking at shd. Its elitism. Dont like a lobby free to leave

[oak prawn]

I see shock traps used as well against hunters buts its a rare site for me

[sleek drift]

I could never get them to bite

I've killed my hunters with foam nades

[brazen mountain]

Me too

[vapid breach]

Lol we had the elitism vs entitlement argument last time so I’ll leave it be now.

[sleek drift]

Pfft

Fight when

[full zinc]

Lmao, all good

[sleek drift]

I miss my police m4

Gazing longingly at that 15% rifle damage

[full zinc]

When countdown was 1 difficulty it was so much better. It now seems to be surrounded by toxicity .

[vapid breach]

Devs fault for buffing the shit out of the hunters

[full zinc]

Agents faults for being toxic af . Jmho

[vapid breach]

Are you a countdown or summit person?

[sleek drift]

Can't blame humans for being human

[full zinc]

Both. But I wont touch cd now.

[vapid breach]

Cause I swear, I think there’s no way you can be this ambivalent about it if you were regularly playing heroic CD with matchmaking. As I’ve been typing, I’ve only been playing heroic CD. Not a single game where we made it to extraction yet

[full zinc]

Attitudes not the game mode that bugs me

Maybe the devs were right when they said heroic was for hardcore groups and challenging was for 8man mm

[vapid breach]

They were right

It is perfect for 8 man hardcore. AWFUL for carry

[wraith current]

Does anyone go into a heroic CD as, like, just a support medic?

[full zinc]

So it seems counterproductive to complain about non sweats in heroic when you not going in with an organized group

[vapid breach]

Not a fair point at all.

[full zinc]

Totally fair point

[vapid breach]

That’s like saying you’re not gonna be frustrated if you get two level 10 shd matchmaking tidal basin on legendary*

[full zinc]

You have an option to leave or do solo

[vapid breach]

Meant to say legendary my bad

[full zinc]

Mm you should expect to see good and sup par players.

Legendary you should be organized

[vapid breach]

Have you never matchmaked a legendary mission?

[wraith current]

Is shd lvl 10 for legendary in your group even possible? I cant imagine someone's already matchmaking for that so quickly lol

[vapid breach]

Every time I matchmake a legendary mission for the weekly, I get at least 1

No exaggeration

[full zinc]

Just go solo.

[wraith current]

What? Why are people matchmaking for that so early? I guess they plan on getting carried lol

[full zinc]

Sounds like you mm for the carry

[vapid breach]

Kk, I accept the trolling :)

[wraith current]

I really do want to make a nice support medic build so I can help and be a bit lazy

[full zinc]

Not trolling. Jmho

[wraith current]

Not too lazy. Just lazy enough

[full zinc]

You complain alot about matchmaking 💯

[vapid breach]

You are and that’s a-okay fellow player. Can’t expect much else in gaming servers lol.

I do! That is a fair point. I’ll stop typing as much about it.

[full zinc]

Not trying to troll. If I have points I agree with you I will. No issues wih you personally

[wraith current]

So Cahleb. Do you regularly get agents that have healing type builds in countdown a lot and if you do is it something that isnt needed or welcomed when you see it?

[lethal dome]

I'm pretty sure a medic is nice to have, because if someone fucks up, or makes a mistake, he can go back and heal faster

Didn't play since the update, so take my opinion with a grain of salt

[sleek drift]

They'll complain if you run a skill build, doubly so with turrets/drones cuz hunters

Though foam seems a standard for hunters

[wraith current]

Hmmm

[lethal dome]

Medic build mostly uses healing chem launcher and heal hive

[wraith current]

Yea I figured

[vapid breach]

Eh, future initiative with chest piece is really hit or miss. I can see it, but I don’t really think it works well. Take it from me, I’ve done it before.

[serene prairie]

Do contractor gloves work with skill build like mortar

[vapid breach]

You get disrupted - you’re useless. You get hacked - you’re useless.

[wraith current]

True. That's what I was thinking

I'd be useless most of the time

Hmm

[vapid breach]

Have there been games where I completely managed to avoid being hacked or disrupted, yeah. Was it smooth, yeah, but honestly not really any more smooth than when I ran my heartbreaker and played up close and took aggro

[timber hatch]

yes

[wraith current]

I've been deep diving a bunch of different builds lately so my brain is a bit mushy rn lol

[serene prairie]

Thank you

[wraith current]

I just need to play more coop period to test for myself some of this stuff. I'm also not to familiar with the enemy scaling in groups yet too.

I'm too addicted to using my hunters fury build rn too. That with a decoy is something I slept on for too long.

Paired with the memento instead of the coyote mask

I use the firewall specialization too but my one gripe with it is I never find using the flamethrower useful.

Every other specialization weapon is much more fun to use

[sleek drift]

Haven't found a situation to use the minigun yet

[wraith current]

Yea minigun and flamethrower are my two least favorite weapons. These rest I like

Crossbow the most

[potent lava]

What are the most common ways to get all God roll stats on gear? Is it best to try and find pieces of gear with 1 God roll and 2 stats close to god rolls and finish them up with optimization or what?

[tender wave]

yes, that's easiest - it's entirely possible to farm for fully god-rolled gear but it'll likely take longer

[potent lava]

Ive never got a a fully godroll piece ever, except like a police m4 and some other things that didn't help me

Somebody told me optimization is really really hard, I know you need a shit ton of shd calibration points and resources

[tender wave]

it depends how high-levelled you are really, once you get above shd 1000 you get loads of scavenging points you can spend on optimisation mats

[potent lava]

Yeah I'm about 110, what's the most important thing to spend the shd points on? Shd calibration?

[tender wave]

for lower levels though, it's probably not worth optimising something that needs more than one or two goes to hit max (unless it has a particularly rare and useful combination of stats)

[potent lava]

And currently have about 30 shd calibration points, I'm saving up my scavenging reward until I know what to choose when I need it

[tender wave]

I'd just save the scav points until you actually really need them for something - let them pile up as you do other content

[potent lava]

Okay yeah that's what I've been doing, not really sure what I'm gonna end up needing the most

[tender wave]

having everything fully max-rolled isn't really that essential anyway, having the right brands and half-decent rolls of the right kind will get you a long long way

[clever creek]

I grab checkpoint ones and shd renown

But then again I have loads of the other options

[potent lava]

And if I'm going for a decent DPS and decent armor build should I have pieces that are only damage stats, and then pieces that are only armor stats? Or can I have pieces with random stats

[tender wave]

recalibration is pretty cheap though, and will allow you to max out at least one stat per item quite easily once you've got them in your library

[potent lava]

Idk if that made sense

[tender wave]

it's recommended to focus entirely on what the build is 'about' - so for dps, you'd want all red cores, all crit chance/damage substats

adding a couple of resistance or regen mods isn't really going to help much

[potent lava]

Like is there a benefit to each piece of my gear to be only damage stats

What about armor

Cause I kinda wanted a decent damage build with decent armor too though for dz

I have a skill build that is decent enough

[tender wave]

tank builds are not that useful outside of specific raid roles, but DZ is a separate thing I guess, I think they usually go for crit brands and substats with armor cores

there's a link to 'The Spreadsheet 2' pinned in #td2-build-advice, it has a bunch of different builds and a pvp guide as well as lots of other info, so take a look in there

[potent lava]

Okay thanks bro

[main canopy]

can you only get ironworks base mats from raid or is there another way?

[novel laurel]

I use a “tank build” for conflict can also work for dz
Mask- coyotes
Chest- named badger with perfect unbreakable
Holster-grupo
Backpack- walker harris with adrenaline rush. (Can use matador)
Gloves-ceska
Knees- foxes
I use an m870 with flatline and one with optimist. 5 blue cores can also sub out the grupo holster for ceska and run contractors gloves

[inner elbow]

Tank builds work in Legendaries too

[agile thistle]

Word is they are removing Floor 10 farm. The absolute last thing they need to be worried about.. FIX THE GAME MASSIVE. AR's with Rifle damage, People losing their expertise levels, Countdown unplayable. They just keep burying us.

[inner elbow]

Not really

Floor 10 farm is probably the most exploited activity in the game atm.

It should be fixed because it kills game experience for new players

[azure lintel]

Basicaly, after 1k you are only more resourceful. It really does not make you a bad or better player. If people lack the knowledge bout the game that is an issue that has nothing to do with f10

[sleek drift]

Do you get a scavenge point per level after 1k?

[azure lintel]

damn I spoiled u. but yes that is true and you also get health

[sleek drift]

Neat

[azure lintel]

Like others I also think there're things far more important to fix than f10 farming.

[full zinc]

Yeah. Wony runs 🤣

[azure lintel]

wut u mean?

[main canopy]

he means making a new guy and using his shd levels

[full zinc]

Double scavenging point in a couple hours

Way more useful than f10 it optimizing/expertise

F10 is good forn<1000 agents. Why it's only gonna hurt new guys when they nerf it

[gusty dove]

inb4 they start putting that in investigating too 😂

[full zinc]

Lmao

[azure lintel]

The grind is not worth it unless you have 5k shd at least since buying and any sort of trading is expensive. you'll consume your shd like candy

[full zinc]

Even @ 1000. You will get 200 points in that couple hours

It you have all 4 agents 40 now. You can utilize 4x scavenging points all the way through 1000 as well

[azure lintel]

That direct comparisong makes f10 even more effective since you are actually progressing your shd while wony wont grand you any more shd.

Any new character will carry older shd levels and won't give u extras

[full zinc]

You can remake agent as soon as the watch is drained. Infinitely

[azure lintel]

True. still your shd remains the same and your health is also not affected

[full zinc]

Shd doesnt matter after 1000

It's a flex

[novel laurel]

Makes your wony runs more affective

[azure lintel]

like I said it only makes u more resourceful

[full zinc]

But doesnt matter. If you wont 2 hrs for say 400 points. Then do another for another 400 point. Would you have gained 800 in f10 in 4 hrs?

[novel laurel]

You can do 3 runs at lvl 1000 or 3 runs at 3000

[full zinc]

I love f10. Dont get me wrong. But at a certain point for resources wony just wins

[azure lintel]

Just look at it this way... How long does it take u to run wony? If you are 1k shd then you get 1k shd in 3hrs? IF u are 10k shd, how long does it take you to run wony and how many shd you get?

[novel laurel]

It takes 300 points minimum to become fully proficient in one item at shd lvl 1000 you only get 200 scavenging points

[full zinc]

1k gives 200 scavenging. 10k gives 9200.
Yes it's more effective. But if you dont have the level it can still be used. And still give quite a bit

[novel laurel]

I’m at 1900shd and am waiting till I hit 2500 at least before I make my next character

While I’m lvling up I still get 3x scavenging points from 3 characters

[full zinc]

You'll get 1100 right now

[novel laurel]

Yep

Not worth it

3-4 hours of work for 4 items proficient

[full zinc]

And if you have all 4. Itll still tick up as you grind to 2500

[novel laurel]

True

But im trying to abuse floor 10 till it’s patched

[full zinc]

Ofc

[azure lintel]

I honestly think that if they want to do something about summit then they should think of slowing down how it is farmed. Adding random spawn points could work, adding more yellow npcs, put dogs in every spawn, but probably they won't do any of this and they will just decrease the amount of XP gained

[novel laurel]

Im halfway done in dlc with last character

[novel laurel]

They don’t care about making it balanced or more difficult. They think progression is too fast resulting in the grind for new players to 1000 being short and probably dropping play time overall

[full zinc]

They just have to put respawn @ next check floor if you suicide after clear. It's a simple fix tbf and could have been done any time

[novel laurel]

Agreed

The reason it wasn’t changed sooner is probably because it’s a whole new team working on the game and they have been learning the systems within the game as well as pushing new content and updates out

[full zinc]

It's not priority. If it was it would be like textiles. Or when they shut conflict because of expertise wipe

[novel laurel]

It’s becoming a priority because it’s now such a common strategy

[azure lintel]

That is why I dont think they didn't know this would happened. Like how?

[novel laurel]

I remember doing it months ago and barely anyone was running it

[full zinc]

F10 probably drives season pass sales because agents know they gonna hit 100

[novel laurel]

There was no YouTube videos on it yet

At least not from mainstream div 2 creators

[novel laurel]

Potentially

[astral jacinth]

Its Manning Zoo triple threat week Y'all: Invaded, League, and Legendary

[novel laurel]

Or it lowers it because people realize the premium pass isn’t worth it when you can get dozens of exotics and all the items you need from summit

[full zinc]

Everyone wins. End of the day if people play the game it looks good for investors opposed to a dead game

[oak prawn]

ive been farming heroic cps for those 250 hyena elite kills

im at 150

[azure lintel]

I think you may be able to do league and invaded but not legendary since the dificulty is diferent

[inner elbow]

Wym weekly legendary is Roosevelt

[novel laurel]

True but game progression is too fast the dont like it

[gusty dove]

i gave up, i'm at 28/30 atm lol

[inner elbow]

You gave me a heart attack bro imagine all the new players looking for a carry in Lego Manning

[sleek drift]

They'll come easily, no need to farm

I farmed till like 150 and then found I needed something else that was in a hyena zone and I just got a metric fuckton of yellows

[full zinc]

They'll eventually patch. They said its unintended 💯
But they are putting it out there way in advance...

[vapid breach]

Which is cool. I’ll be 5k Shd minimum by then. Wony it is

[full zinc]

I'm guessing tu17 may see movement

[vapid breach]

Only hurting new players

[full zinc]

Absolutly

[full zinc]

15k atm if we flexing. Many others much higher than us combined

[midnight lotus]

Can someone explain the floor 10 farm again

I have no idea whats that about

[full zinc]

Its good to have all 4 agents even <1000, even if only boosted to 30. That's 4 shd project exo. And storage

[novel laurel]

It was confirmed on Twitter by Morten Ryberg the division product director that they aren’t banning anyone for farming floor 10

[full zinc]

Nice 👍

[novel laurel]

Just thought everyone should know that , 85% of the players woulda gotten a ban lol

[inner elbow]

Besides how would they know if you farmed floor 10?

[full zinc]

Hours spent at same checkpoint. There is a ton of data saved for all activities.

[inner elbow]

Right

[azure lintel]

Why would they ban plp for that? lol

[novel laurel]

Idk I’ve seen people worried about getting banned since they found out about it

[azure lintel]

I'd be worried if that was glitching or even hacking but that is normal grind my dear lol

[novel laurel]

Yea i didn’t think they would, I saw someone earlier today talking about how he saw a post about the devs running a script and banning people who did it

[azure lintel]

well good to know they won't

[inner elbow]

It's an oversight by the devs and totally not the players' fault

But telling new players to grind floor 10 is just bad advice

Remove floor 10 farm = no bad advice
BAM
2 birds with 1 stone

[agile thistle]

Yeah but now new players will have no way to catch up with everyone else who farmed fl10. Its too late to nerf it leave it in

[jagged prism]

right? like if they get to floor 10 kill boss get loot and then kill themselves progress them to fl11 problem solved

[inner elbow]

Catch up? To what? For what? Since when do SHD lvs matter?

[agile thistle]

High SHD and using printer filament is one of the only realistic ways to level the proficiency system

[inner elbow]

🤔

If you want to rush it sure

But it's not an obligation
It is also perfectly fine to take your time getting there

[tepid briar]

My nemisis one shots rogue agents

[jagged prism]

what would be hilarious, sometime down the road the devs be like we realize the proficiency system was a terrible idea and removed it from the game

[inner elbow]

It probably is

I'm at expertise 15 and it feels like my gear is way overkill, even on Heroic solo

[jagged prism]

not sure where i stand in that level wise, but probably double digits and don't really recall upgrading much in general

[azure lintel]

is either that or a new gear level cap which renders all actual gear useless. I prefer proficiency

[pliant sentinel]

or make prof universal to all weapons

no need to upgrade one individually

[oak prawn]

capibara

is ur ppf right

[pliant sentinel]

ye

[jagged prism]

ok i lied, level 6 lol

[full zinc]

Max upgrades arent huge increases

But a huge cost

[inner elbow]

The cost is worth it

But damage increase is overkill

For skill builds at least

[pliant sentinel]

i gotta sacrifice the entire plastic industry to upgrade one c7

[inner elbow]

Because skill expertise is account-wide

Which probably is also an oversight by the devs

[jagged prism]

probably

[azure lintel]

universal for each weapon class or weapon type? cause that would be ideal

[oak prawn]

type

[azure lintel]

yea def a huge change

[oak prawn]

alr back to my movie peace

btw for all you star war fans andor is now out on disney+ 3 episodes

[pliant sentinel]

each weapon type

[astral jacinth]

Didn’t Manning Zoo league used to be 20 minutes?

Who set it to 1 hour lul

[jagged prism]

think pentagon is 1 hour too

[inner elbow]

Ironically DARPA is at 15

DARPA heroic 12 min league flashbacks

[jagged prism]

nods and i'm 9/10 for it :/

[oak prawn]

i just nmee

[vapid breach]

Wasn’t a flex lol. I’m not even that high shd at the moment, but planning to spend a lot of time grinding now that I know. (But I do realize how that could have been misread since you don’t know my shd)

[oak prawn]

need hyena ellite kills

might do DUA heroic just to get those final 100 kills

[tepid briar]

I have done 6 bounty and the chameleon hasnt drop for me yet

😭

[sleek drift]

Save it for when it's in an AR world zone

Then spam bounties in it; usually what I do to get them to drop often

I don't do it intentionally for them, they just drop

I'm always farming for a decent AR since the update borked my others; they're just a byproduct

[inner elbow]

They said there will be a fix in an upcoming patch. Not sure when it drops tho

[tepid briar]

A heroic Bounty jesus

[inner elbow]

Legendary bounty when

[jagged prism]

i had to do that with Uzina Getica for a new closer chest. farmed it for a bit no closer so i'm like forget it. don't remember when i got it but it dropped when i wasn't even looking for it complete with armor regen 🤦‍♂️

[tepid briar]

can the chameleon drop from exotic caches

[inner elbow]

Yes

[tepid briar]

damn 4 caches and no chameleon

[jagged prism]

the trick is, not to want it that badly. you'll open up a cache or kill something and it'll drop like crazy

[tepid briar]

true

I got some nice exotic out of those caches thou