td2-general-chat

[fiery cloud]

Hey Aspect, Sniper, Fearlxss,

[frozen meadow]

hey saph

[reef reef]

Just digging your own grave.

[brazen mountain]

You said it yourself

[gusty dove]

hey saph ^_^

[rare vapor]

Hey Saph

[frozen meadow]

read my modmail, first message he's sent here was phobic

[distant imp]

they have been at it over a hour now

[reef reef]

On it already.

[brazen mountain]

Your still racist

[oak prawn]

Free entertainment

[viscid cargo]

Anyone got the SC for the droprates of exotics from regular enemies?

[full zinc]

Why you still looking for attention...

[oak prawn]

Let him tire himself out

[distant imp]

back to movies/tv anyone see that the new season of rick and morty is out?

[rare vapor]

annnnnd he's gone

[brazen mountain]

YES

[gusty dove]

finally

[sleek drift]

Oh well

[reef reef]

Sorry for the wait, everyone.

[frozen meadow]

aspect saves the day once more

[pliant sentinel]

milo how lucky u feeling today, can u spare some luck to get me a maxed GR9

[full zinc]

Damn, lmao

[brazen mountain]

All hail aspect

[distant imp]

only a hour of a failure of a troll

[frigid oxide]

Aspect reduced him to atoms.

[oak prawn]

I'm enjoying the OG assassin's creed rn

[pliant sentinel]

oh damn

[oak prawn]

Took me 8 hours to beat rogue

[brazen mountain]

same rn I’m playing unity

[full zinc]

Aspect in with the

[frozen meadow]

im gonna take a shower, thanks for the entertainment yall

[distant imp]

i played 3 first then went to 1 and 2 lol

[gusty dove]

Netflix removed it in my country 😭

[distant imp]

that sucks

[oak prawn]

I've Beaten all of em at 100% minus the first 1

[distant imp]

ima buy it on the xbox store

[brazen mountain]

Brotherhood was my first

[gusty dove]

bruh it was there before, now it's gone

[distant imp]

same but new ones for me

[frigid oxide]

Nord VPN sponsorship starts playing

[oak prawn]

I think I have over 3000 hours between all of the games

[gusty dove]

was gonna say yeah, just need a country that has it

[sleek drift]

I'm bored now, the shitposter was like junk food entertainment

[distant imp]

reminds me of my hours for fallout new vegas

i know it inside and out

[sleek drift]

3 was my first FO

[reef reef]

No need to give me any praise. Its what i do, and i was late. My sincerest apologies to anyone who had to engage with the troll.

[sleek drift]

I remember getting psyched when I realized the alien blaster was a thing

[tepid briar]

is there any lore to the summit

[sleek drift]

big tower go brrr

[distant imp]

i would not even count them as a troll they failed at what they wure trying to do

[sleek drift]

Had y'all reacting

[frozen meadow]

I don't know if they were a troll or just genuinely idiotic

[brazen mountain]

It’s fine you did insanely well

[frigid oxide]

Division's take on the backrooms.

[brazen mountain]

Probably both

[distant imp]

the backrooms in div are flat open land

i shared a pic yesterday

[brazen mountain]

I wanna make you all some xcom 2 characters because why not

[distant imp]

lol

[oak prawn]

Give me 20 mins and Spotify

[tepid briar]

make me a sniper

[distant imp]

shotguns!

[sleek drift]

Make me an Assault

Shotgun kinda, blade ones are 🤢

[frigid oxide]

Already got a friend who plays XCOM and made a character for me even named him after me.

[brazen mountain]

alrighty

I’m on it

Alright I’ll update you all when I’m done

I’ll let you choose your skills too if you want

[distant imp]

ping thos you make the things for

[brazen mountain]

Alrighty

[distant imp]

is blowing stuff up a skill?

[brazen mountain]

If you wanna blow up stuff you’ll need to be a grenadier because they have a grenade launcher

If you want a shotgun then you will have to be a ranger class

[distant imp]

but shotguns + c4

[frozen meadow]

I'm so close to expertise lvl 20

[distant imp]

classic BO2

[brazen mountain]

You can have op grenades in the game anyway so you can be ranger

[distant imp]

ok

[brazen mountain]

Did you want a character?

[oak prawn]

Sure

[tepid briar]

i died to the jammer floor

oof

and there goes 2 floor

[sleek drift]

I pulled a you and accidentally scrapped an M1A I was gonna put Boomerang on

Fucking hell lmao

[brazen mountain]

Ok I’m gonna dm each of you individually so I can make your characters

[tepid briar]

cant I just grind the loot from tidal basin 😩

[oak prawn]

you gotta freind me first i have dms only on for friends

avoids those "scams"

[rain lark]

If I turn the map green on washington dc, can they turn it red again?

[jagged prism]

possibly? but would probably take a long while

[safe stag]

ok, I was wrong, took me 20 min to get from FL1 to FL10 on normal. but I did collect the keys and boxes

[sleek drift]

Do control points drop tactical assessments respectively for each faction?

Or am I wasting my time

[safe stag]

that IDK, but you do get them from FL10 if I recall

[sleek drift]

From bosses / named enemies ye, and I know CPs have named enemies

I need Cleaners assessments and I have fuck all for titantium rn

[jagged prism]

whatever you're talking about if you go into the resources tab of the game and highlight what you're looking for will tell you how to obtain them

[sleek drift]

Kk, bosses

Not just bounties

[pliant sentinel]

fucking crashed when i killed last 4 hunters

[jagged prism]

think a lot of them say Summit Challenge Caches

which are the one where you select 2 different ones to work. like the left side seems to be things like setting so much on status effect or headshots, the other side is mostly having x directives on and complete y floors

[oak prawn]

Yep

[vapid breach]

I find the quickest I can do it is with a seeker mine + striker drone build with perfectly calculated and perfectly skilled

That and solo. Hate doing it in group. Currently making an alt to have a permanent fl10 checkpoint

[safe stag]

I should do that

[jagged prism]

so that you can play on that alt to do fl10? hmmm 🤔

[timber hatch]

use eclipse if your solo, its far faster and easier

[vapid breach]

Yeah I never run solo fl10 so, I just switch accounts, give it to whoever I’m running with.

[vapid breach]

Disagree. Lots and lots of rounds where eclipse is inefficient because they are spread out.

Can keep throwing infinite seeker mines with that build that are instant kills.

[timber hatch]

you can consistently do it in 40ish seconds (including wipe and load time) per round solo with EP

[vapid breach]

And trust me, eclipse is my #1 most used build. I do not say this lightly

[safe stag]

I was talking about climbing from FL1 to FL10 to set it up

[timber hatch]

the only thing that comes close is regulus HH, but thats much harder to even come close

[vapid breach]

Oh, I see. I wasn’t talking about the fl10.

[novel laurel]

Me and raucey ran a ton of lvls. I’ve done it solo legendary and heroic. Eclipse is fine if you are using firewall

[vapid breach]

Yeah this is what I was talking about

[safe stag]

I just run it on normal with my hunters build

and vector

[novel laurel]

I use lady death for move speed with a red GC build

[oak prawn]

i use to run lady death with my HFs when i first started out decding on a build

[clever creek]

Why the snitch snitching tho

[oak prawn]

did a solid job

[safe stag]

I think vector pushes more DPS with in sync and drone

[clever creek]

What did cassie do to him

[oak prawn]

i told him if he didnt snitch id take away his mac and cheese my bad

[safe stag]

hides my mac n cheeze

[oak prawn]

hey you dropped something over there

[tepid briar]

@safe stag im on the tenth floor

[safe stag]

me too, getting the correct hallway now

[tepid briar]

Whats this correct hallwat]

[safe stag]

Yeah, that's the tricky part, it's RNG to get it

[oak prawn]

i hate that part

[tepid briar]

what happen if I get the wrong hallway

[safe stag]

head to lobby, try again

[oak prawn]

gotta go back to lobby and keep trying

[safe stag]

that's what I'm doing now

[novel laurel]

I use lady death to move faster through the floors not cause I think it’s a strong option

[full zinc]

windows on left side is the f10 you want

[oak prawn]

well it was my first exotic and it was the only good gun i had at the time

[safe stag]

got the correct hallway

[safe stag]

wanna join me in GV-1 and I'll show you?

[tepid briar]

sure

[safe stag]

name the same here and Uplay?

[tepid briar]

uh

[torpid plume]

I have a question, So I got my friend to get division 2 and do the level 30 boost to new york and now I can not join to help them. Do they need to finish that first mission and make it to Haven first or is this a bug?

[distant imp]

they have to do the mission

[vapid breach]

I am very surprised to find out you can’t use WONY on different psn accounts on the same console

[quick wolf]

I see there are people doing not great with Heroic Countdown. Is the scaling actually bad or is it whining? I did one earlier and other than Hunters being sponges, it wasn't too bad.
Everyone had a shit connection and someone DC'd, which probably didn't help considering we failed the main objective.

[timber hatch]

Sorry didn't realize you were talking the 1-10 run. Still run eclipse, but run it on normal and use the jammer pulse as your main "weapon". It will proc vile and that will kill an entire floor of ads instantly. Then clean up with fire chem

[vapid breach]

I’m sure seeker mines (perfectly skilled + calculated) is faster :) I’m the designated fl1-10 runner so I do it a lot and eclipse was just inefficient, especially because of the oftentimes disjoined spawns.

Similarly, on rounds where there’s tons of drones, the talents allow you to have infinite EMP rather than hoping the one you have will loop.

[brazen mountain]

@sleek drift it’s your turn

[sleek drift]

Added you

[fair tundra]

Anyone else notice their ammo getting completely drained sometimes when using the Ongoing Directive set?

[dense orchid]

is the Catharsis in the general loot pool yet or no because i need one but didnt get it from season 9

[oak prawn]

ive gotten plenty yea its in the lootpool

[dense orchid]

did you get it from the season pass though?

[fair tundra]

Also get those exotic caches

[fair tundra]

I got mine before I even got it in the pass because they messed up the loot. They are supposed to be added anyway after season end, so it should be

[dense orchid]

okay thanks ive been farming for it all day and still didnt get it

just a shit ton of vile mask so i was just seeing if i was wasting my time

[fair tundra]

None of those three from last season were dropping targeted loot. I guess they still didn't fix that. Probably best of going for exotic caches

Its in the pool, they just won't drop targeted for some reason

[dense orchid]

aight sounds good its to late to keep farming countdowns for the caches lmao i need sleep been playing for like 18 hours or so

thank you tho astra ppreciate it

[fair tundra]

No problem. Hopefully they will address that at somepoint

[pliant sentinel]

the only challenge in completing heroic countdown is the crashes

[novel laurel]

I thought we were getting a legendary difficulty for countdown?

[quick wolf]

So after having played Heroic and Challenging, all I can say is that the latter feels like Countdown before the different difficulties were added and Heroic just feels like the AI is spongier.

That's about it.

No, just for TB and Manning.

No Legendary for Countdown, but that would be funny.

[pliant sentinel]

that be hell on earth

[pliant sentinel]

spongier is still okay as u can still em quickly with both OD and FI

problem is you losing 70% of ur teammates to the backrooms

[novel laurel]

It would be awesome with a team

[oak prawn]

I'd like to to see 8 division agents in the backrooms

How would they fare

[distant imp]

they would burn and blow up and shoot everything that moves

[oak prawn]

Yea but some of the creatures have ablities

Sure the hostiles on floor 1 and 2 are manageable but floor 3 and on are way more tougher

[pliant sentinel]

summit

[brazen mountain]

I got bad news for @distant imp and @oak prawn

Your characters are in the process of bleeding out

[oak prawn]

Did I qt least take a few out ?

At

[brazen mountain]

I’m sending in the other team to rescue you and luna

It ain’t lookin too good

[oak prawn]

Your suppose to keep me away from the battle my character is a sniper

[brazen mountain]

I did

But it’s xcom

The enemy’s hit almost every shot

This could literally cost me the entire campaign wish me luck

[distant imp]

what happened?

[jolly stag]

is the weekly reset in a few hours or did they fix it

[oak prawn]

Weekly reset happens on Tuesdays

[quick wolf]

Oof. The umbra mask pairs well with the hunter masks, but it has no appearance mod counterpart. Big rip.

Oh and they still haven't fixed the appearance mode slot for HB knees, lmao.

[pliant sentinel]

@jolly stag i like ur name

[lost harbor]

Hopefully part of their fix for the dye slots on umbra and arcabuz gear also includes fixing the appearance mod drops.

[clever creek]

So I targeted shotguns and found an exotic drop. It was a lullaby 😔

[astral jacinth]

completed legendary zoo for the first time

oooofff what a slog

[granite zephyr]

8 dps regulus spammers

[oak prawn]

Oh god

[plucky veldt]

Has anyone noticed that the smgs do less damage in countdown after the update

[quick wolf]

Are you sure it's not just a modifier? Or perhaps that the enemies are far spongier on Heroic?

[brazen mountain]

The aliens found our ship and started attacking

Anyways

[distant imp]

ouch

[plush blaze]

did profeciency crates glitch? Or stop at some point? I havent gotten any for like 20 levels

[oak prawn]

So anyways I started blasting 😂

[brazen mountain]

Exactly what I did

[granite zephyr]

Had someone show me the Dodge city + sidearm build for the Regulus

Godly damage,

[oak prawn]

If i was an agent I'd probably be the 1 in the back drinking apple juice and eating food

Let my drone ans turret do all tbe work

[granite zephyr]

Me inhaling all the gas myself with the chem launcher and stimming myself with the first aid till I overdose

[oak prawn]

So your like the hyenas you need your fix

[quick wolf]

He can't go 5 minutes without hitting a regulus headshot or withdrawal symptoms begin to show.

[oak prawn]

Regulus users be like

[granite zephyr]

Had a perfect squad

[oak prawn]

I would also wear the brightest of colors

[granite zephyr]

Me:OD Healer
2 full reds:One using regulus and one using nemesis
1 tank with foundry

OD hollow points+ Regulus,

Too bad the 35% hollow point damage boost doesn't apply to teammates

If not would've seen much more insane damage from the regulus and nemesis

[oak prawn]

Anyways I'm off to bed

Gn

[granite zephyr]

Gn comrade

[rustic glade]

Is exotic components from cp chests in the current patch? Not had a single one yet

[brazen mountain]

I just had to open up my ps5 to clean it and now I know why it overheated so many times damn

[novel laurel]

Gotta keep them fans clean

[brazen mountain]

Yep

[granite zephyr]

Huh,

[granite zephyr]

There's exo components?

I only got Blueprint materials and blueprints from Heroic Control Points

[rustic glade]

Was in the notes for TU16

[pure saffron]

any information regarding the Premium Credits deal mentioned last week, 2000+1000+outfit? like when it's available?

[knotty wave]

Stupid question sorry, I've got one of my weapons to lvl10 proficiency, then used the upgrade system via expertise to get that 1% increment... How do I level it up again? Cause it now says not enough expertise?

[smoky stag]

you increase expertise, which is the amount of upgrades you can apply, by getting more if not all of you stuff proficient.

[knotty wave]

Even if I want to upgrade just one weapon?

So in the lmg category, I have to get more of them up to 10, to be able to upgrade the one I want?

[oak timber]

Does anyone know if the summit farm still works

[viscid mica]

I finally gotten the scorpio shotgun

[viscid mica]

It still does work mate gotten lots of exotics

[oak timber]

Thanks alot for this information do you know someone who can run it with me for a lil bit

[novel laurel]

#lfg-playstation

[viscid mica]

Sorry but I'm on PC right now d2 has no cross play

[oak timber]

Ye i saw but thanks all the same

[vapid breach]

Just finished making an alt account for infinite fl10 checkpoint and omg so worth the $8

[gusty dove]

running to F10 doesn't take that long for me, rather do that so I atleast have something to do with challenges enabled

[vapid breach]

While I don’t think turning 10-15 minutes to 1.5 isn’t freaking amazing, it isn’t even really the time. I often feel like fl10 sessions drone on because everyone has a respect for the time it took to climb. People are less likely to do 20 minute fl10 sessions because of it

Now, I’m like hey let’s jump in this for 15 because it will only take me 1 to get it back!

[smoky stag]

alt acct is gigachad tier and is always appreciated by friends

[azure lintel]

Any reason why system corruption isn’t in the target loot ?

[vapid breach]

Dz exclusive gear set

[azure lintel]

So I’m guessing this set is dum strong ?

[vapid breach]

I’ve personally never used it but I hear it’s used in the DZ a lot (the area I never - under any circumstance - enter)

[azure lintel]

Lmao we all know DV 1 dark zone is way better

[reef reef]

system corruption is not great, in pvp there are much better alternatives and in pve its just not worth using

[vapid breach]

Wellp there’s your answer 🤣 it is but expertise fodder

(And I am not implying donating it, rather just wearing it for expertise unless you somehow have a lot of them)

[pliant sentinel]

i have a raid build based on it

[gusty dove]

system corruption feels like hunters fury with memento stacks

[sullen mango]

if i'm playing on normal and get an exotic drop, will the exotic be of worse quality?

[pliant sentinel]

think so yeah

(could be wrong)

[steel river]

Am I hardly missing something, or can't you use the appearance of this umbra set on other items?

[elfin hazel]

bugged

[fair lake]

And since DZ loot is broken and SysCor is NEVER targeted.....

[feral rain]

Wait a second, deflect duration doesn’t effect the defender drone at all

I just timmed it sitting infront of a minigun and it was spot on 24s with and without the mod, while duration actually increases well… the duration so it’s pointless to actually have deflect duration on your defender drone

[gusty dove]

except it comes from legacy caches which you'd have to get via dz or conflict iirc

[exotic blaze]

Legacy caches can be bought from the global events vendor or they can be obtained while leveling up the season track

System is in DZ or conflict caches too

[gusty dove]

ah, probably why I got it then.. noticed a legacy cache in my inventory and was wondering how since I hadn't looked at the track

[exotic blaze]

I thought you could buy them fron countdown last season but it changed

[fast phoenix]

Can the Armor for regulus be found in countdown?

[azure lintel]

As far as I know foundry's gear [chest and backpack]only drop in the raid unless u have the blueprints

[elfin hazel]

no they drop outside

[reef reef]

thats been changed, .drib is correct

[azure lintel]

oh good to know

[fast phoenix]

Are raids kind of dead now? I’ve heard that people don’t really do the dark hours raid

Do ppl still do iron horse?

[gusty dove]

#lfg-raid-pc is still alive and people looking for raids here and there

[winter gale]

Did they patch floor 10 boys?

[gusty dove]

afaik, no

[elfin hazel]

not yet but they are looking at it

[winter gale]

fuck

Bcus I farmed to 10 then went lobby, came back now floor 11

[gusty dove]

isn't it that only a forum mod said something and not a dev?

[winter gale]

😩

[elfin hazel]

ubi support staff

so kinda

Just to provide a bit of an update, this does seem to be a bug and something the dev team are going to look into fixing in future updates.

[brisk bridge]

I hope they patch it because Summit matchmaking is just level 10 now, and #lfg-pc is also just people looking to match up for it.

[azure lintel]

the only problem I see? other activities are less productive to farm which is why f10 xp farm is so popular. XP farm needs a rework not in terms of one activity being exploited but in terms of making other activities equally rewarding. my opinion of course

[granite zephyr]

System is only in the DZ and caches?

I thought there was targeted loot for it lol

[elfin hazel]

nah

no activity should be able to give you hundreds of levels from like 1-2 hours of doing them

before floor 10 you could roughly assume people with 2-3k+ shd level had some clue of what they were doing now its a complete gamble

[azure lintel]

dont know about hundred but 40 t0 70 in 1 or 2 are posible

[low lily]

I mean doesn't a floor take like 30 seconds to do?

[distant oak]

True! Was doing Summit floor 100 with a guy who was SHD level 2k. He had been doing floor 10 to get this high level. But he had never heard of the fact that you can't use turret and drone because they get hacked.

[elfin hazel]

I think people have gotten it lower not sure though

but it wouldnt surprise me

[low lily]

I meant like average

[elfin hazel]

average estimate I see is a minute or 2 per shd level

[low lily]

2 minutes??

I mean depends of a person yes

[full zinc]

Its like a watch every minute with ep/oxi team. 30 second clears are pretty average in that scenario. 2 clears a watch

[low lily]

I think the only summit farm i have done, was to get the season level to 100, so i don't need to do pve anymore for the season 😅

[timber hatch]

After your first clear your checkpoint moves to 11, but wiping let's you repeat floor 10. But because your checkpoint is now 11, leaving and coming back will now put you on floor 11.

[winter gale]

I know that but what happened was I farmed on normal from 1-10 then had fast travelled to lobby for heroic difficulty and then put me at 11

[timber hatch]

It sounds like you completed 10 on normal then

[winter gale]

I didn’t tho

I was with like 3 other people

[safe wraith]

Not really because you need some form of experienced group to even farm f10 at an acceptable speed, and doing that you need to know something about the game and will learn

Convoys have been a thing since forever and people never complained

[tender wave]

you'll learn a very very limited set of builds and tactics

[elfin hazel]

I've seen quite a few people saying they found some super high level player who have no idea what they're doing

[safe wraith]

Now an inexperienced team farms f10 slower than convoys...

[elfin hazel]

you're just learning how to do floor 10 not how to play the game as a whole

[safe wraith]

Nothing is absolute

My argument is not about shd levels, more about how f10 doesn't make any difference

[tender wave]

an inexperienced team would really struggle with convoys as well, I suspect

[safe wraith]

Which is the same thing

No difference in whether f10 exists or not, doesn't change how indicative shd level is

[elfin hazel]

f10 is probably the easiest thing to get into / tag people along for levels in the game

if you focus your builds solely on f10 you're going to be ill equiped for the rest of the game be it pvp legendary or raids

[tender wave]

not my experience, at least when it comes to really high shd levels - I've played MM missions with 10/12k shd level players who were complete dead weights

[elfin hazel]

you have spent your time focusing on power leveling in a very specific controlled way

[safe wraith]

You literally repeat what I said but ok

[tender wave]

I think f10 farming is addictive to some people in a way that convoys aren't, it's conducive to really mindless gameplay once you get the loop going, for those who like to see the number tick up without ever having to think about what they're doing - convoys require much more brain interaction (reaching them, knowing likely spawns, etc)

[safe wraith]

I agree

[elfin hazel]

convoys on paper are as simple if not more so than f10 but takes way longer

thats why they dont have as big an impact as f10 because f10 is way faster

[safe wraith]

It is the same speed if you have an inexperienced team

[elfin hazel]

fast travel time alone would slow it down to a crawl compared to f10

hell even waiting for them

[safe wraith]

Doesn't make a difference to shd levels

You still won't get any form of good shd growth

[elfin hazel]

it makes it way slower to get shd levels so people dont do it as much as f10

[full zinc]

F10 can be solo quick wih an afk build tbf. It doesnt require anything other than knowing the right floor layout to use

[elfin hazel]

more levels per minute makes more of an impact of shd level meaning less

esp if its easy to make a build for

[safe wraith]

Not really

1 level more per hour is not much

[full zinc]

Nothing giving level like f10🤣

[safe wraith]

There's still people taking more than 2 minutes to clear a floor btw

And run it with 4 directives

Statistically speaking even slower than convoys

[elfin hazel]

didnt you just try and shut down my argument by saying nothing is absolute

[safe wraith]

Yes

[full zinc]

Maybe in your experience

[safe wraith]

And you just tried giving an absolute example

[agile fulcrum]

Anybody here have a floor 100 checkpoint on PlayStation?

I'm trying to finish Ridgway's Pride

[safe wraith]

So I gave 1 as well

[tender wave]

how long would it take those people to run convoys though? Wouldn't be as fast as you would do it

[safe wraith]

Varies, but won't be much quicker or slower

Even if you compare the limits of both

Its not far off for experienced people

[full zinc]

The same person running f10 or convoys would absolutly level faster in f10. Hands down

[safe wraith]

Convoys done on a good pace nets 60-70 levels on average per hour, 70-80 for f10

[elfin hazel]

ignoring the time to kill all the spawns from a convoy and only looking at the travel time it slows to a crawl compared to f10

[tender wave]

you're not talking about experienced people though - anyone who takes a couple of minutes to clear F10 is absolutely going to struggle to clear convoys

[safe wraith]

@elfin hazel again you're saying nothing but proving my point

[full zinc]

Yeah it's a losing arguement. F10 fastest

[safe wraith]

He asked about experienced

[safe wraith]

^, and inexperienced is the same

You can clear convoys with literally anything, just like you can f10

[full zinc]

A new player with afk build and waiting in the hall can complete f10 fast. Needs 0 experience

[safe wraith]

No he can't

[tender wave]

funny how before F10 farming became popular, the lfg chat was never full of people teaming up to hunt convoys

[safe wraith]

3 minutes per floor is not fast

[full zinc]

That same person would definitely struggle with convoys with 0 experience

[safe wraith]

That's the ironic thing, probably because most of the community heavily overrated it as a godlike XP farm, when in reality most experienced people do it just for convenience. It is the fastest statistically speaking, but not by far

[safe wraith]

You just gave another absolute example

[full zinc]

Who cares

[safe wraith]

No one if you contradict yourself

[full zinc]

I dont deal if what ifs

F10 is faster

[elfin hazel]

absolutism for me not for thee ☻

[safe wraith]

Source: I said so

I feel that it's faster for inexperienced people

[viral canopy]

Anyone still playing the division 1

[full zinc]

The same person being no experience put in either scenario would absolutly be faster @ f10 over convoy

[safe wraith]

Based on "my experience"

[elfin hazel]

should be able to find people in #td1-general / #td1-lfg

[tender wave]

the fact is that F10 farming is VASTLY more popular among newer players than convoy farming ever was (again, look in lfg channels these days, it's 90% f10)

[viral canopy]

Okay then

[elfin hazel]

albiet not as many as the ones for td2

[safe wraith]

Popularity was never a reliable argument

[agile fulcrum]

That's crazy I've been exclusively farming convoys is there something I'm missing? There's a faster way?

[safe wraith]

70% of LFG still can't farm f10 properly

[lethal dome]

From what I saw someone trying to say: F10 can be a bit faster when compared to convoys due to fast travel loading times.
So, for me, F10 would be a bit more "efficient", since loading times on ps4 and ps4 pro are really slow compared to ps5

[agile fulcrum]

I have never heard of floor 10 farming but then again I don't really play in groups too too much

Outside of raids and stuff with the clan

[lethal dome]

Older generation: F10 is more efficient for XP farming (slow fast travel time)
Newer generation: Convoys and F10 are pretty much the same, do what you prefer

[lethal dome]

I believe the same could be said for minimum requirement pc and High-end pc

[agile fulcrum]

Honestly and this comes from a person who EXCLUSIVELY farms convoys

[safe wraith]

Just think of it like this, if popular=best, then regulus would've been the only build people cared about. But most still don't know or care about it, might be because they think raids are hard, but the most prominent reason is most people don't even know how it works with HH

[agile fulcrum]

I never ran the floor 10 but with convoys sometimes it bugs and you won't get any convoys on the map

So you have to reset everything and wait where I'm assuming with floor 10 you dont have to do that

[lethal dome]

Since you don't have to fast travel, it could be considered faster.

[agile fulcrum]

That would be the only thing that would make it better? Idk though I definitely should try floor 10 some time

[tender wave]

regulus takes player skill to play well though, f10 just takes a few pieces of knowledge (the right build, knowing which door everything will spawn from), very very little player skill

[agile fulcrum]

I mean I'm running a ps5 with an SSD in it

[safe wraith]

This has nothing to do with f10

[agile fulcrum]

Or the new storage things

So I load like extremely fast

[elfin hazel]

regulus = headshots all the time to work properly
f10 = oxidizer on door causing mass aoe damage

[lethal dome]

So it won't really change, F10 and Convoys for me are pretty much the same, but F10 is way more repetitive for me

[elfin hazel]

one of these is much harder than the other not only to setup and get but to play

[tender wave]

I really want to be good at regulus but I find it weirdly difficult to aim (despite normally playing HH sniper)

[safe wraith]

Regulus is not a method used for regular f10 farming

[agile fulcrum]

Yeah I'm just not sure how that works I'm just looking at what you guys are saying

[tender wave]

yes but popularity IS dependent on 'ease of use', not just 'best'

f10 is BOTH

[elfin hazel]

it takes some getting used to since you're at closer distant / higher stakes

[smoky stag]

f10 faster than convoys for leveling even before the oxi strat existed

[elfin hazel]

hell I'm still not even that great with it even if I'm used to it

[safe wraith]

That's completely true

[tender wave]

my mouse-aim reactions just seem to be permanently off, as if my sensitivity is different with regulus than every other gun

[safe wraith]

Which is why it's not indicative of if something is true or good or not

[safe wraith]

In the context of most effective way, it was always faster, but never by much far

In this context it means that both are being pushed to fastest

[smoky stag]

60-70 levels vs approximately 40ish sounds far

[safe wraith]

Convoys is not 40 ish

[smoky stag]

plus factor in RNG.

[safe wraith]

90/h has been done, but averages usually 60

People got to 50k through purely convoys, memorising every spawn on the map and basically non stop traveling

Defitnitely less consistent than f10 but still not slow

[smoky stag]

consistent
doesnt rely on rng
easy to execute
easy enough to learn. only idiots cant comprehend on the actual LFG
double as a target loot farm
convenient, no need to fast travel, no need to wait.
all the pros and non of the cons.

[forest hemlock]

Anyone else having an issue with the new weapon skins for Carbine 7 not working?

[elfin hazel]

known issue psure

[timber hatch]

Convoys when people get really good at it will be done once roughly every 1-2 minutes. There is a certain amount of rng to it though, but you can still get 30+ levels an hour on average. But as fast as that is, it's still roughly half the speed as F10

[tender wave]

the 'those people' in my comment was referring to people who take 2mins to clear a F10

[safe wraith]

Idk why people like to think my argument is f10 is slower than convoys

[timber hatch]

And what no one is mentioning is the old floor 100 method, which used to be even faster than F10 is now, where you could get 80+ an hour when done right, although I think the number of people who properly knew that method was low

[safe wraith]

I would say stop inferring and read carefully

[timber hatch]

Your saying that these methods should exist that are this fast

[safe wraith]

Number was still higher than people who knew how to actually properly farm convoys, but that's besides the point

[timber hatch]

F100 method doesn't exist anymore because the devs agreed with you

[safe wraith]

Again words in my mouth lol

The original thing I said if you scroll was whether f10 existing or not doesn't make a difference to how much shd level is indicative of experience

[pliant sentinel]

what i do with 40k textiles bruh

[elfin hazel]

nothing

open more caches and gain more

[ornate notch]

theres maybe this weekend heartland closed beta? 🤔

[elfin hazel]

impossible to say

if there was you'd be beamed by mods due to nda if there wasnt all you could do is guess

[ornate notch]

on twitter they posted about heartland and I got email

and today ended the s&b technical test

[azure lintel]

That was intense but I've finally done Tidal Basin and made it to Tier 5. Only 2 years late.....🤦

[azure lintel]

I do want to play it again but my external hard drive shat itself.

[mental bison]

Breadbasket is nice

Fun talent

[upbeat trench]

have someone a link for a perfect oxi build to level in f10 summit?

[timber hatch]

Check the pinned spreadsheet in the build advice channel

[azure lintel]

Where does the grind even start..... Finished tidal Basin at GS431

[zinc shadow]

now you gotta get to level 40

[elfin hazel]

do you care about the story

[azure lintel]

The story has been ok

But you lose track sometimes

[elfin hazel]

if you do care about the story then you'd go to camp white oak > the pentagon > coney island > wony and you can put manning zoo wherever you want in there really

if not straight to the dlc

the grind starts at the end of that

[azure lintel]

All the new stuff popped up on the map and it was a bit confusing.

[elfin hazel]

yeah if you are playing after they all got added its confusing to figure out which one comes first

[proven egret]

is it just me or does summit xp reduce over time bc I went from 900k xp to 400k and idk why

[forest hemlock]

The manhunt event gives you like 10.5mil double xp

[proven egret]

oh that's probably why thank you

[upbeat trench]

is there a homepage or something like that where i can overview all vendors easy?

[low lily]

Ruben has one

[upbeat trench]

ruben?

[tender wave]

case in point on why countdown elitists are idiots: just completed a challenging countdown where the host was level 30 (and running 5pc TP), 3 other players were <shd 200, and we still did everything and extracted just fine

[pliant sentinel]

challenging?

[low lily]

Yeah sometimes you can make it, but the times i tried, those below 200 levels, where extremely liability and i left because they where dead already on first hunters. On heroic tho

[tender wave]

challenging difficulty - the standard one

heroic not really worth it

[elfin hazel]

https://rubenalamina.mx/the-division-weekly-vendor-reset/

[low lily]

Already sent him dm

[pliant sentinel]

i do agree that elitists are idiots tho

did alot of heroic countdown, still no maxed roll GR9

[sacred kindle]

hello there

[viral canopy]

It's alright

[pulsar apex]

wtf is this babyface vest

[reef reef]

Bugged apparel item.

[pliant sentinel]

mans is shocked over that vest

[gusty dove]

meanwhile i havent even gotten that vest once 😂

[pliant sentinel]

i got two from countdown earlier and i was baffled

[summer frost]

Scorpio is bullshit. I was playing the mission where you extract Ellis. There's a large space between one side and the other. A teammate was applying status effect to enemies on the other side, what kind of shotgun can shoot at such a distance

[elfin hazel]

you'd be surprised at what they can actually do

[summer frost]

I mean, that could be totally true cause I haven't seen a weapon in my life

[elfin hazel]

I'm sure all the other ones in the game can shoot that far it just doesnt do anything helpful

[pliant sentinel]

go to a range and put on a 12x on that shottie

[timber hatch]

It won't do any meaningful damage at range like all other shotguns, but all it takes is a single pellet to land to CC

[midnight lotus]

1.thats actually how shotguns work irl
2.have you never use that 12 round shotgun?

[timber hatch]

Tbf real shotguns and basically all video game shotguns are completely different

[midnight lotus]

Cuz realistic shotguns would render all non-exotic rifles useless

[timber hatch]

IRL Shotguns would be pretty op if they had IRL mechanics in a game where it's about dumping damage on targets lol

[inner mason]

yo I heard there are glitches being abused in the game right now and people are getting their SHD reset

is this true?

I've been running into guys who are invisible in the DZ lately

[dapper atlas]

@azure lintel Please read the #rules -> Rule 11 – No Unsolicited DM/Mentions to Ubisoft or Moderators
Any kind of unsolicited direct messages or mentions to Ubisoft Employees or Moderators is not allowed.

[inner mason]

getting one shot

out of nowhere

on console

[low lily]

@inner mason urban guy?

[mental bison]

🧹

[inner mason]

no it was a guy with the name BryanGR or something like that

[low lily]

Ohh in eu servers there is like 3 guys, only them use it, have used more than 3 weeks people report them everyday. But it's not pve so massive doesn't give a fuck ya know

[inner mason]

also I ran into a group of players who had 20k SHD with every damn build at 21 expertise on EVERYTHING

multiple builds had that expertise

[low lily]

That's ordinary tho, there legit 35k-s out there tho

[inner mason]

which is insane

[low lily]

Or they used auto floor farmers

[inner mason]

the expertise is not the issue

it's the exotic components needed to hit 21 on every single piece

looked hella sus

[full zinc]

66 per item

[hardy marsh]

I got once a guy in DZ that had some kind of lagswitch or something. when they were about to die he started lagging jumping everywhere and freezing not taking damage and such

[inner mason]

yeah that's lagswitch alright

[low lily]

Hopefully they remove the shd watch and proficiency fully in dz tho

[inner mason]

had a guy who would wait for extractions. would freeze in place next to said extraction. cut the rope and then teleport away

[hardy marsh]

yeah, right in the extraction zone happened for me

[inner mason]

if SHD and expertise is invaded DZ only I would scream out of happiness

[low lily]

Didn't they say that they look into it tho

[inner mason]

yeah they did

high priority

[low lily]

So hopefully soon, like 2 years from now or something

[inner mason]

losing 10% chc and 25% chd is big

[low lily]

It is

[inner mason]

all blue chc/chd builds will get fucked

[low lily]

Farming should never be apart pvp tho

It about skill not how much you farm

[inner mason]

exactly ty

[hardy marsh]

I would sleep better if they fixed the mark all as junk button first

[inner mason]

they have to compensate

[patent glacier]

😥

[simple nebula]

Where should I farm the Catharsis exotic mask now, if I never got it from the season ?

[brazen mountain]

Anywhere because it’s in the loot pool

But I’d recommend summit or countdown

[summer frost]

idk, how do more "realistic" games do tho?

[summer frost]

I haven't ever seen a weapon in my life and I'm not sure I want to, even tho I'm in the US, the land where you get your weekly weapon catalog delivered to your mailbox along with the produce weekly ad lol

[midnight lotus]

fair

[sleek drift]

With standard buckshot it hits upwards to 35m

Slugs go further

[midnight lotus]

a slug also bust kneecaps at around the same range

the only reason every video game on this godforsaken planet has a range of a super soaker is because of balancing

after all you would be mad if someone crossmaps you with a shotgun

[sleek drift]

Hunters also use birdshot for small game and can hit them at range, the strength of birdshot is smaller but more plentiful pellets which allow you to hit a small moving target at a decent distance; Video games make shotguns close range for balance primarily. Amusingly, if you played BF1 on release when the Model 10-A Hunter was OP, that was arguably realistic shotty distance

Could hipfire a dude twice and drop him where carbines would probably be better

[summer frost]

I would assume that other kind of weapons are superior than shotguns in some real life settings, and thus they could be more suited for those settings in game as well?

[midnight lotus]

i mean,in 90% of the arenas that take place in div2 yea

also doesn't help that 95% of the rifles in this game are garbo

name any decent rifle in div2 that is not an exotic or the m1a family

its like m1a is at one end of the rifle viability stick and the rest of the rifles in the game at the other end

[sleek drift]

1886, only downside is you can't mod it extensively and it has a small mag size

[midnight lotus]

im still salty about lightweight m4

and lvoac

[sleek drift]

I love busting that thing out and taking pot shots

[midnight lotus]

fair,1886 gives big cowboy vibe too

[summer frost]

I don't know, I learned from this game is that FAMAS with fast hands and striker battlegear = laser beam

[midnight lotus]

facts

[sleek drift]

FAMAS is ❤️

I miss it, I'm cheating on it with other ARs while it's broken for me

[midnight lotus]

anything that's not a FAMAS is lowkey suboptimal

[summer frost]

I'm cheating all my builds with 3x blue cores, 2x yellow, 1x red named pieces with random talents and weapons just to get the expertise up

[midnight lotus]

shield builds can get 4 yellow cores and still have place for 5 reds or blues rn

our lord and savior,the funny spanish name brandset

[lethal dome]

Just a question, when Memento is being used, does the shield gets 2 levels, since it scales with both yellow and blue core?

[midnight lotus]

yes they do

[lethal dome]

lol, this just clicked now on my head

[summer frost]

I have weird feelings about this game... sometimes all weapons feel more or less variable, or just slightly different so you can use whatever you want if you're happy to give in some firepower, but other times it feels like the meta / optimal builds they're all variants of the same talents / pieces

[midnight lotus]

i mean this is literally describing the meta for div2

[summer frost]

isn't it Catalan??

[midnight lotus]

i cant remember the name

[sleek drift]

P much. Slower firing = harder hitting, faster firing > less flat dmg and faster output

[midnight lotus]

the one with an extra yellow core when you have 2 pieces on

[summer frost]

well I didn't know what the name referenced to so I googled up when I got the first piece and it seemed like a name taken from a Catalan army or something like that

[sleek drift]

I'm using a P416 rn and it hits harder than my FAMAS

Slower fire rate tho

[summer frost]

Azkabuz, where they held HP's uncle?

[midnight lotus]

the thing about div2 meta is that its just...lame

everything feels so much the same

[summer frost]

I used to say that word quite often until I realized "lame" is disrespectful and I changed it for dull or uninspiring etc

[midnight lotus]

the only real deviation i can probably remember from meta is probably Regulus and to an extent Ravenous

[summer frost]

it doesn't help that we've been basically running the same content to death for years

[midnight lotus]

tbf it is tho

[midnight lotus]

same story with about every looter shooter but they seem to have more...meaningful metas

i mean it is definitely better than div1 where if you're not using classy striker you're either a noob or you're throwing

[summer frost]

yeah, it is hence why I deprecated it in my usage

[summer frost]

yeah idk I haven't played many other games, I played warframe and it felt quite repetitive even though their content is VAST

[brazen mountain]

Yea that’s why I stopped playing

[summer frost]

the reason I keep playing TD2 is because it just clicked, there's no other game out there that feels like TD2, plays like TD2, has a setting like TD2, etc... it's quite unique

[midnight lotus]

Yea div2 always feels nice to me

When the game is not crashing,it is

[summer frost]

it does, and I can't put the name on what it feels so nice but it does

I wish there were other more grounded, third person, PVE game out there but there's none

I hear great things about say Sandstorm but being FPS is a huge barrier

[midnight lotus]

Fps lowkey being done to death

Mw2022 3rd person looks really nice and i say this as a mw hater

I wish we can have more of that

[summer frost]

you can play MW in 3rd person?

didn't know, cool

[midnight lotus]

Yea the beta for mw2022 has 3rd person

[summer frost]

sweet

[crude siren]

hello, there is someone spanish here?

[clever creek]

Mw2 3rd person feels very odd

The shoulder switching is impossible to do moving as well

[rain lark]

do you guys get random crash once in a while on pc?

[mossy arch]

yes, both DX 11 and 12, but at 11 it's more rare

[brazen mountain]

Bro stop simping over ever character in existence of this game you horn€ bastard

[proven wagon]

guys I've just started floor 10 in summit

[brazen mountain]

If you looking for people go to #lfg-playstation

[proven wagon]

but I have a room with multiple floors instead of the one with the big fan and the multiple enemy spawn

[brazen mountain]

Oh then you might have to restart and go to floor 10 again

[proven wagon]

already done

[brazen mountain]

It takes multiple try’s to get the room sometimes

[proven wagon]

okk

I'll try and I'll let you know

[brazen mountain]

It could take like 20 try’s if your unlucky but I doubt you won’t get the room in 20 try’s

[plucky veldt]

I wouldn’t be so sure It’s taken me 15 minutes to get it before

[frozen meadow]

mornin yalls

[gusty dove]

morning

[potent lava]

Sooo the floor 10 farm doesn't work anymore?

Keeps putting me at floor 11

[low lily]

Damn that would be awesome silent nerf tho

[potent lava]

Y'all know of other quick methods?

[clever creek]

These people in countdown during the day are toxic. Been kicked from like 6 lobbies in a row

[gusty dove]

it does work

[potent lava]

me and some others tried like3 times last night and going to lobby and stuff to turn on directives and set difficulty, it would put us at 11

[timber hatch]

After your first clear your checkpoint moves to 11, but wiping let's you repeat floor 10. But because your checkpoint is now 11, leaving and coming back will now put you on floor 11.

[potent lava]

no we were doing it normal

oh wait youre saying if i clear it the firsat time i get the checkpoint so you shouldnt clear the first time?

ive been doing it a few days and i was doing it exactly the same as always

[timber hatch]

Right, clear 1-9, that gives you the 10 checkpoint. Then go to lobby and change to the settings you want to farm 10

[fiery cloud]

Hey Raucey

[fair lake]

So, no 16.1 tomorrow, eh?

[gusty dove]

we dont know when 16.1 comes out afaik

[sleek drift]

Lame

Time to farm a new AR then

[clever creek]

Opened an exotic cache and got a god roll scorpio

[sleek drift]

Swag

[brazen mountain]

Lucky

[austere harbor]

Damn

[coral musk]

best feeling while running as a healer

knowing you're the only reason the team didn't get absolutely clobbered in a round of countdown

6 man heroic matchmaking

[mental bison]

Im world lvl 2 now
so are all dz landmarks on challange difficulty from now on ?

[tender wave]

no, world tier has no affect on DZ landmarks

[mental bison]

So just got unlocky

Unlucky*

[tender wave]

seems like everyone calling for backup today is in story mode

[brazen mountain]

Mostly likely they are having trouble with the manhunt

Or it’s high levels doing legendary

[fast phoenix]

is it just me or does the kard45 sometimes have attachments from my equipped rifle?

like itll randomly have a rifle extended mag a huge scope on it and a suppressor

[austere harbor]

Lmao

[tender wave]

no, they're all like level 13 and still working through the story (or 35 and in WONY - but even those weren't experienced players running alts)

[brazen mountain]

Damn because every player I respond the sos flare for are high levels doing legendary DUA or something

[tender wave]

that's usually the case for me too, but today every call (about 8 so far) has been story mode, not one endgame farmer

[mental bison]

Great god empty dz lobby

But everything is hard +

[fast phoenix]

is dz pvp? i've never played it before

[brazen mountain]

That’s not hard to do

[fast phoenix]

ive only done pve lol

[brazen mountain]

Yes

[mental bison]

Dawg i strugle with normal 🗿

[fast phoenix]

o

[brazen mountain]

Damn nevermind

[mental bison]

I dont have build yet

[brazen mountain]

Well it’s reasonable if you have world tier 5

[austere harbor]

Pvp+pve

[mental bison]

Just might do the boost finish dlc and start building

[gusty dove]

mostly pvp* as you'll have people chasing you and wanting to kill you most of the time anyway

[brazen mountain]

Yea

[austere harbor]

I guess I’ve just gotten lucky, haven’t run into many people

[brazen mountain]

High manhunt status is fun tho if you can make it to the status

[trim palm]

anyone having difficulty with the manhunt?

[austere harbor]

A bit

[trim palm]

what's your user

[gusty dove]

i rarely go rogue, only have PvE builds, one pvp that's decent crit dmg 😂

[austere harbor]

Jack M Law, but I’m not on atm

[brazen mountain]

This ain’t the right chat

[trim palm]

shit

[mental bison]

Rn im just runing around empty dz looting amy container

[brazen mountain]

Keep going

[mental bison]

The rat of dz

[fast phoenix]

are people usually nice in DZ and dont kill u?

[brazen mountain]

Nope

[fast phoenix]

or do ppl usually try to kill u

[brazen mountain]

They try to kill anyone

[mental bison]

Y know tarkov right ?

[brazen mountain]

It’s not anything like tarkov

[trim palm]

I've come across some nice people

[mental bison]

Player sense

[austere harbor]

You can get lucky sometimes and people will be chill in dz

[gusty dove]

^

[brazen mountain]

SOME

[gusty dove]

but thats rare

[brazen mountain]

Most people kill anything that moves

Including doors

[gusty dove]

doors lol

[brazen mountain]

Doors move when you open them

Also the dogs and deers

[gilded perch]

and bird, and tons of birds

[austere harbor]

I’ve just discovered a word that’s not allowed here for some reason

[mental bison]

Whats the easiest to defend extracrtion in dz west ?

[austere harbor]

Y’all know that sport where you launch a clay disk and then shoot it with a gun

[brazen mountain]

Oh yea I hunt the birds

[trim palm]

I'll say one thing, people on here aren't open to help other people. I've matchmaked for the last bounty on manhunt and no one's joining

connection's fine

[austere harbor]

Yeah it kinda sucks

[fast phoenix]

i just got kicked in the middle of a countdown

[brazen mountain]

People do that to low SHD levels

Anyone below 100 which is dumb

[fast phoenix]

but ive completed so many countodnws before

[trim palm]

and this is the hardest bounty I've come across

[gilded perch]

call helicopter but dont extract until last second
keep opening menu to check any player within 100ft
if any player show on list, run

[mental bison]

Dont matter im solo lobby

[sleek drift]

Or pop rogue and kill them

Not advisable if you're the lowest level of your bracket tho

[gilded perch]

yea i prefer kill them all, if you are good at pvp

if not, just run, whatever that player is friendly or not

[novel laurel]

Clay pigeons

[gilded perch]

i use sticky and try to hit bird, that's more fun

[gusty dove]

bird?

[mental bison]

O shit im not alone

I tought i was

[clever creek]

They can't do that anymore

[fair lake]

Sadly, we can't kick any YOLOs anymore, who rush to the extraction point to call the choppa immediately

[mental bison]

I have zero luck in roge

As soon as i think there is solo i get shot in the back

[tepid briar]

morning

[mental bison]

But atleast i doubled my dz credits

Now i have whoping 41 credits i can almost buy a purple gun !

[brazen mountain]

Morning

[potent chasm]

Afternoon

[tepid briar]

Puck's Nemesis Blueprint didnt drop for me

Do I need the fist 3 stonghold parts?

[oak prawn]

Cries in only 21 creds

Is there gonna be a small Patch tmrw? Or do we gotta wait till TU 16.1

[gusty dove]

cries in 89

[coral loom]

can anyone access the official forum https://discussions.ubisoft.com/ and click on New Topic

[oak prawn]

Your more rich then me

Wym

[gusty dove]

not rich enough

[tender wave]

you need a couple of them, I think - get the one from DUA and then go back to GWH and try again (before tomorrow!)

not sure if the '2 pieces needed' includes the scope from tidal basin or not

[fast phoenix]

Anyone want to kinda do the iron horse raid and teach me again? I only did it once a long time ago

[tender wave]

#lfg-raid-pc

[fast phoenix]

does the matchmaking version of the IH raid drop the materials i need for the second part of the regulus projects?

[tender wave]

nope

[sleek drift]

Scope first from Tidal Basin then you can do w/e

Though I did DUA first then Puck

[cold lagoon]

When countdown was introduced what difficulty was it set at?

[balmy cedar]

It’s like between challenging and heroic

[oak prawn]

Challenging

[brazen mountain]

Yep challenging

[oak prawn]

In this update they added normal hard and heroic

[balmy cedar]

You can run around with glass cannon and not be bothered lol

[cold lagoon]

Thank you

[mental bison]

Honestly

Why are black tusk misson easier then vannila

[novel laurel]

You can still do that lol

[mental bison]

I def did capitol way faster

[tepid briar]

Can I not change talents

[fast phoenix]

is it just me or did DC suddently get sandy?

like all of a sudden theres a sandstorm or something

[tacit talon]

hmmm.. like hurricane sandy?

[fast phoenix]

no its like orange dust haha

all over DC

[tepid briar]

how hard is challenging countdown

[tacit talon]

its pretty challenging

[tepid briar]

because its gonna be my first time running countdown

[fast phoenix]

In a group its not bad

I usually have a super tanky build so at the last part, at around 30-45 seconds left, I can tank a bunch of hits and run straight to the extraction and shoot the flare

[tender wave]

depends on the group, a half-decent group will carry you easily. Just don't bring a turret/drone build.

[mental bison]

Its in the name 🗿

[cold lagoon]

Is heartbreaker still bonkers?

[tender wave]

not so much, only if you're good at building stacks (and even then, it was nerfed a bit a month or so after release)

[azure lintel]

No

[heavy ledge]

Good day, anyone else experiencing the ammo hoarders directive not there anymore?

[azure lintel]

New Season, new Directives.

[novel laurel]

Striker has highest potential dmg now

[mental bison]

Dz vendors can have exotics ?

[azure lintel]

No

[mental bison]

Dam

[tepid briar]

Countdown was not so bad

[cold lagoon]

heartbreaker still feels really strong

[mental bison]

So just buy whatever i want ?

[heavy ledge]

referring to the map settings, global directives, etc

[tepid briar]

Whats the point of countdown again

[novel laurel]

It’s still strong but not as good

[frozen meadow]

hello

[frozen meadow]

lots of items :D

[gusty dove]

i only use it in countdown tbh..

[frozen meadow]

i use striker

[cold lagoon]

I’m still doing around the same amount of damage pre nerf.

Building stacks seems the same

[novel laurel]

It’s less dmg, if you are using it in countdown you are getting team buffs and counter measures

[cold lagoon]

Just solo control points

[novel laurel]

It’s definitely less. Not bad a lot though

[frozen meadow]

3 more guns till i have them all proficient :0

[oak prawn]

I'm only at expertise level 3

[gusty dove]

i'm at 10 but havent maxed my weapons to 10 yet

[cold lagoon]

^

[oak prawn]

I have all but 6 weapons proficient

[cold lagoon]

I can’t seem to get my expertise up

[oak prawn]

Getting your expertise up is a real pain

[heavy ledge]

Global directives - ammo hoarders missing

[gusty dove]

.. yes, read what he said

[frozen meadow]

im almost to 20

[gusty dove]

whats actually the point of expertise 20 when u arent gonna use it for pvp 🤔

[clever creek]

Well isnt expertise cap 21

[tepid briar]

After fine tuning my build,My headshot does 186.5% increase dmg

[frozen meadow]

using it for pve

[tepid briar]

now I just need the nemisis

[gusty dove]

touché, but i've rarely seen people with expertise 20 for pve

[frozen meadow]

sthats because they dont have expertise 20

[cold lagoon]

3 people have expertise 20

[gusty dove]

would think those 1k+ shd would have expertise 20..

[frozen meadow]

what

[frozen meadow]

shd means fuck all

[gusty dove]

except for farming its easier, which also you are able to upgrade weapons

[frozen meadow]

past 1k*

[novel laurel]

Not true

[frozen meadow]

yeah where did that number come from

[novel laurel]

You need to be around 3.5k shd to go up 1 expertise lvl per new character

If you donate all the materials from the watch

[frozen meadow]

it takes 300 scavenge points to make one item proficient

[novel laurel]

No it doesn’t

Printer filament is the easiest way

[frozen meadow]

30 printer filament makes 10% of one proficiency level

[cold lagoon]

Sorry for saying only 3 people have made it to expertise 20

[frozen meadow]

where did that number come from eazy

[cold lagoon]

I made it up

[frozen meadow]

then why did you say it

[cold lagoon]

I’ll give you 3 guesses

[novel laurel]

Lmao

[frozen meadow]

im super confused

[novel laurel]

I didn’t think it took that many points for one item

[frozen meadow]

it does lol

you start to pay attention when you do it a lot

[novel laurel]

I’ve seen countless people at lvl 20

I just hit 12

[frozen meadow]

my character just dead ass froze mid-fault

i cant move or anything, wtf

[cold lagoon]

More than 3?!

[novel laurel]

Or 13

Can’t remember

[oak prawn]

I feel proud i soloed my first sub mission on heroic CD it was warhounds very thankful for fixer drone

saved my ass

[tender wave]

while jumping over something? I've had that a few times, most recently during leg zoo a couple of days ago

[frozen meadow]

climbing

[tender wave]

had to end task to get unstuck

[oak prawn]

climbing is deadly dont you know eveee

i had my game freeze when i was jumping down from a ledge

i was frozen mid air

[frozen meadow]

lol i got downed and it wont let me stem or even give up

[oak prawn]

i think fearlxess had that issue when we were farming each other for the DZ south trophy

backpack

[frozen meadow]

this heavy is vibrating in place

weird ass game

[oak prawn]

hes just showing his moves

[frozen meadow]

ima just not go further with that

[oak prawn]

yea i have a ss of a hyena thats interesting

[frozen meadow]

i finally died

[oak prawn]

the game let you no suffer anymore

[gusty dove]

yup annoying wifi caused that

[oak prawn]

bro had that mac donalds wifi

[gusty dove]

fr 😂 dont have that at the place i am now but at parents i do

ffs

[oak prawn]

bro was playing in a mac donalds

[gusty dove]

i wish, would have grabbed a burger there

[oak prawn]

full setup munching away

i use to bring my xbox 360 to school

[cold lagoon]

Why

[oak prawn]

cause it was the final day before summer break teachers didnt care

pizza party all day no work just goof off

[cold lagoon]

I thought you were bringing it everyday

[clever creek]

I vaulted over something but instead of vaulting it I stood on it then got teleported lmao

[oak prawn]

halo 3 days as well the boys playing in class i miss those days

[oak prawn]

hoodni

[raven junco]

Why doesn’t the SHD help other countries? India, South America, and Russia are in bad states.

[oak prawn]

because they are american based

[clever creek]

They aren't i don't think

[oak prawn]

and there orders are to insure the contuie of the goverment

[brave aspen]

Raid exotics are still raid exclusive?

[clever creek]

Yeah

[brazen mountain]

They do actually

Division agents are everywhere

[oak prawn]

we are basically special forces but only sent in when all else fails

[brazen mountain]

But the game isn’t based in Russia or anything

[clever creek]

Shd isn't special forces

They're civilians

Only on duty when called

[brave aspen]

Alright

[clever creek]

They have no training

[brave aspen]

Spreadsheet been updated?

[oak prawn]

1. protect the popluace 2. restore civil order 3. ensure the goverment stays standing

those are our vaules

[brazen mountain]

Basically undercover agents

That are civilians

[raven junco]

SHD already failed in the third order the president is dead and the secretary of Homeland Security is against the SHD. Not to mention other countries don’t have they’re own SHD. Probably Russia. India is in a bad state like the U.S with their nuclear weapons vulnerable to hostile forces. So that bad for other countries.

[oak prawn]

many agents went rogue after being left in the DZ and had to make the choice to stay and protect civies or retreat and live to fight another day and many agents were marked as rogue due to that

[cold lagoon]

Anyone know how to fix that Faye transmission thing at the white house?

[brazen mountain]

Well agents are everywhere and I’m pretty sure they said that in the div 1 intro if anyone remembers

[brazen mountain]

That’s true

That’s why keener went rogue

[oak prawn]

isac marked them as rogue due to breaking protect the populace

[brazen mountain]

The first wave agents were ordered to retreat but keener and his squad chose to stay and I’m pretty sure but they failed to protect the civilians

[oak prawn]

many rogues went rogue to surive not all rogues are bad some just went off mission and were marked as rogue

they did what they felt was right

[brazen mountain]

Yep

[novel laurel]

They do have training

[brazen mountain]

Fun fact the heli crash in div 1 was actually keeners doing

[oak prawn]

its ingrained into thier everyday life

[novel laurel]

All shd agents have training even those that aren’t combat ops.

No they have to go do actual training

[oak prawn]

yea the training is implemented into everyday things

[raven junco]

Third goal has failed. First and second goal is still successful.

[oak prawn]

i mean i went rogue a long time ago

[novel laurel]

No it’s not

They have to go tactical classes and pass physical exams

[oak prawn]

they are expected to keep training after that though

[brazen mountain]

Although some rogues are just corrupt agents wanting to kill everyone

Most went rogue because of good reasons tho

[novel laurel]

https://youtu.be/0_Pw--kYAtw

[sleek drift]

These mfws are actually debating lore

[oak prawn]

after they get trained and passd evals they are expected to keep training as apart of thier everyday lifes

[sleek drift]

mfs

[brazen mountain]

YES WE ARE

[raven junco]

Question is would Division agents kill rogue agents if they just peacefully went AWOL and doesn’t hurt anyone?

[oak prawn]

well SHD agents are told to shoot rogues on site

or capture them

[brazen mountain]

Yep

[raven junco]

Even if they’re not doing nothing bad?

[brazen mountain]

Same with hunters

[oak prawn]

yep

[brazen mountain]

Hunters kill all factions except for BT

[oak prawn]

all SHD agents have an order to capture rogues and if that fails they are ordered to kill that rogue agent

[novel laurel]

They don’t kill rogues on site😂

[brazen mountain]

They are suppose to

[novel laurel]

No

[brazen mountain]

Why would they leave a rogue alive if they have a chance to kill em huh?

[raven junco]

Why there isn’t any female hunters?

[brazen mountain]

You think a agent will look at a rogue and say hi then walk away?

[novel laurel]

Not every rogue is out to murder people, going rogue just means they aren’t following the mission

[brazen mountain]

I dunno

[brazen mountain]

WE KNOW

[novel laurel]

It’s in the lore that rogue agents can return to shd status

[sleek drift]

I would

[novel laurel]

So why would they kill them

[brazen mountain]

Same ngl

[sleek drift]

Half the time I'm in the DZ I just run around and mind my own business, realistically if someone is rogue and not harassing civvies, I'd leave them to their devices

[oak prawn]

well if that rogue is tryna kill you you have no choice

[sleek drift]

Speaking generally

[novel laurel]

That’s different than hunting down rogues

[raven junco]

There probably some rogue agents that are still probably following mission but in their own terms. Like Faye Lau.

[novel laurel]

Exactly

[sleek drift]

Point of Div agents is autonomy, continuity of government can smd

[oak prawn]

like i said up there many agents went rogue to surive not all are bad

[novel laurel]

Watch NGN videos on the division lore

He covers all known confirmed data about pretty much everything

[brazen mountain]

Faye lay went rogue because of her sister

[raven junco]

But SHD failed their mission in ensuring continuity of government.

[oak prawn]

i do and in a viedo and he said that after everything SHD agents are expected to keep training and it is done in thier everyday lifes

[raven junco]

@brazen mountain And also went undercover.

[novel laurel]

Technically no

[brazen mountain]

Like almost every rogue

[novel laurel]

There’s still a “president”

[oak prawn]

tech mc manus is in charge now that ellis is dead

and all other goverment officals are dead or MIA

[sleek drift]

Oh yiss, a FAMAS with Fast Hands and dmg out of cover

[raven junco]

But McManus want to eliminate SHD. So he a traitor.

[sleek drift]

Unicorn ❤️

[oak prawn]

yea cause he saw how they were a liablity

[sleek drift]

Inb4 hunters are like internal affairs of SHD

[oak prawn]

some say the hunters work for mc manus

[sleek drift]

Ya I'm aware

[oak prawn]

they are his "special" army

[sleek drift]

I could see it being plausible they're an insurance policy against rogue agents / the Division in general since they have too much of a likelihood to go rogue because of their autonomy and their gadgets

[raven junco]

McManus created the hunters so they work for Homeland Security not SHD.

[sleek drift]

Whereas the Division is just an experiment / hail mary when the gov fails

[oak prawn]

and hunters have better tgear then us and are better trained

[sleek drift]

Ye

[oak prawn]

they alos collect watches which i think is cool they take a trophy