td2-build-advice

[dusk edge]

atm my OD has two backups: oreo and scorpio

[mental rapids]

What’s the best way to farm for carnage

[dusk edge]

oh. i just realized St. Elmo is perfect for OD. i'm now sad

[sudden cloak]

Ehhh

[flint arch]

not really, the shock rounds will overwrite the hollow point

[lone violet]

Hope they buff TP one day

[dusk edge]

oh. nvm then

[flint arch]

and you need hollow point ammo for the amps

[dusk edge]

i'll try lexington tomorrow. idk if that's even viable for status effects

[lone violet]

[mental rapids]

I’m lost I’m just getting back into division 2

[sudden cloak]

Best OD build I've ever seen

[lone violet]

(Only usable during this modifier)

[flint arch]

level 40 starter guide

[dusk edge]

oh? is OD not that good in common use cases?

[flint arch]

OD is good as long you can kill things within 1 mag

[exotic talon]

idk catalyst OD seems pretty smart

[lone violet]

Od is usable until you start hitting higher escal levels

[sudden cloak]

Yup

[lone violet]

(5 and up )

[dusk edge]

ohh. i see

[sudden cloak]

OD is a great Dps/support build

[grim bluff]

Like every build that requires killing stuff to get the buff, once you can't kill stuff to get your buff you ain't got nothin'

[dusk edge]

as a Hotshot main, i felt that

[lone violet]

Plus I think enemies in escal 6 and up get status immunity

[mental rapids]

That’s why I was thinking a Scorpio EP

[exotic talon]

not a blanket immunity but i think theres a modifier for it

[grim bluff]

So many people are gonna get screwed out of their tokens by forgetting to turn off the GE when they go into escalations

[lone violet]

Idk how you get the catalyst

[grim bluff]

Brooklyn DLC, final boss

[lone violet]

I beat the dlc just didn’t get lucky and what was the mission name?

[grim bluff]

You don't need it, OD works fine without it with tinkerer or overdogs

[exotic talon]

scorpio eclipse is good but not because of the status effects, they arent very good
any damage build benefits from the vulnerability debuff though and six12 does very good damage until you have to reload

[grim bluff]

Army Terminal

[mental rapids]

So not viable late game

[exotic talon]

eclipse as a whole isnt

heroic is a hard cap for it

[mental rapids]

Ok so what would be a good status build for late game

I’m more of a support player

[exotic talon]

riot foam

eclipse riot foam sees use sometimes because it is actual crowd control

[dusk edge]

OD i'm gonna assume. i'm not sure if you get hollow point via the kills you made yourself or it also procs even if someone else kills your target

[solar sable]

Is late game for you, Saker, Escalations?

[mental rapids]

Idk I just got back into d2 im so lost 😞

[solar sable]

Follow the guide Corrupt shared. We've worked hard on it.

[dusk edge]

ergo, you support fire, add status effect, someone kills, you get hollow boolets , cakewalk from there

[mental rapids]

Ergo?

[sudden cloak]

Summary

[grim bluff]

It's latin, it means 'therefore'

[mental rapids]

Oh duh lol

[sudden cloak]

Lol

[mental rapids]

I’ll smack myself in the face for that one

[grim bluff]

And yes, if something dies with the OD debuff from ally kills then you get HP ammo

[mental rapids]

So OD Scorpio might work

[dusk edge]

i tried earlier, yeah it does

[grim bluff]

Yes but you want a big magazine to take advantage of all the HP ammo, hence the LMGs

[sudden cloak]

OD is targeted in dcd right now, so you could try for some prototype pieces

[solar sable]

Don't... do that.

Prototype as a whole isn't meant to be something that new or returning players should seek at first glance.

[dusk edge]

apply status with scorpio, finish off with rifle, stonks

[grim bluff]

So you can just bring a skill that puts status on a target, instead of having to use scorpio. Like sticky bombs, banshee pulse, foam

[dusk edge]

scorpio helps with dmg too so you won't take long killing an enemy

[sudden cloak]

Mb, forgot they were a returning player, I'm a bit out of it atm

[dusk edge]

sometimes it'd crit in the right places and IT gets HP ammo

[solar sable]

No worries.

[dusk edge]

striker drone is useless on OD for me. i'll try Banshee

[sudden cloak]

If i was to prototype an oxi build, what rolls would i want

[exotic talon]

scorpio's statuses dont last nearly as long to secure a kill

[dusk edge]

yeah fairs. only works for this event

[mental rapids]

What is the benefit of prototypes

[exotic talon]

they just exist so you can get to the vulnerability debuff safely
but again thats great on any support damage build

[sudden cloak]

Doesn't Scorpio talent count as a status effect?

[exotic talon]

no its a debuff, debuffs are red

[sudden cloak]

Ah gotcha

[grim bluff]

Scorpio applies status effects as part of the talent, but the talent itself is a debuff yeah

[smoky latch]

The duration of the status effects depends on the amount of pellets hitting the target. So SE attribute won't help there

[sudden cloak]

Raises the values of your core attributes and non core attributes, so weapon dmg goes from a max of 15% to 22.5%, skill tier max becomes 1.5 skill tiers, and armor core max is 255k i think?

But the missions are quite difficult due to the massive increase to enemy hp and dmg

[mental rapids]

Ah ok

So it sounds like Scorpio not got in later game

[exotic talon]

its 1.5x the base max value

[sudden cloak]

There are tiers to the missions, tier 0-10, the higher the tier the more hp and dmg they have

[exotic talon]

it is, as a part of the prominent future initiative high tier escal healer build
because it lets EVERYONE do more damage

again, the statuses are not why you use it

[lost wren]

prototypes are also not necessary for 99% of content

honestly prototype gear is only good for escalation, which is how you get prototype gear in the first place funnily enough

[sudden cloak]

Scorpios talent after landing 8 shots i think? Makes the enemy take 20% more dmg

[lost wren]

you play escalation to get prototype gear in order to play more escalation

[mental rapids]

I just got mine so I’m wanting to make a build for it

[sudden cloak]

Makes legendaries even easier

But yeah, prototype isn't a necessity

[mental rapids]

What’s a good specialization?

[flint arch]

depends on your build

[sudden cloak]

Depends on the build, each have their respective uses, gunner/firewall are good for dps builds, tech/survivalist are good for support build, tech also good for skill dmg builds too

[upper yew]

demo found dead stabbed in an alley

[exotic talon]

demo is the meta for every raid dps build

[upper yew]

really ?

[exotic talon]

and mortar turret builds exist

demo gives 5% squad wide damage to target out of cover

[upper yew]

oh yea forgot about mortar

[subtle bluff]

A demo spec.

[sudden cloak]

I forgot about demo okay 🤣

[exotic talon]

unless your specific build demands another spec, you run demo (for raids)

[upper yew]

btw im glad this event has happened, wanted to use something else reliable other than pestilence for a change, better yet a "bleed" build is absolutely hilarious to me cuz of a particular youtube video

[sudden cloak]

Yeah, I don't hardly raid anymore

[sudden cloak]

Oh god, not the YouTube videos lmao

[upper yew]

there is a guy named grouch, he made a video about weapon balance for tf 2 and his video is infamously horrible cuz one of the changes he made was to take a revolver, reduce clip size to 1, decreased damage by 99%, 66% reload speed reduction and the only upside of the gun was to bleed for 8 seconds

[sudden cloak]

Lol

[upper yew]

for a good 3-4 months EVERYBODY remotely interested in tf2 was bullying and clowning the video cuz it is THAT bad

[flint arch]

everything now inflicts 8 seconds of bleed

[upper yew]

BUFFED

[upper yew]

btw yea he described this as a BUFF in his video

[limber heath]

with today's update the attack mods are missing

[opaque wagon]

is Status Effect % the dmg dealt by status effect?

[sudden cloak]

?

[limber heath]

Mods are missing from the inventory

[atomic anchor]

wrong channel mb

[mental rapids]

What’s a good armor exotic for OD or EP

[smoky latch]

None

Exotics aren't required for any build and aren't always bis

[upper yew]

I use overdogs with 4pc OD

[smoky latch]

Works

[upper yew]

I think its both effect dmg/Duration

[mental rapids]

Over dogs?

[opaque wagon]

so for status effect build with scorpio, is eclipse or OD the way to go about it?

[upper yew]

I use OD with scorpio

[upper yew]

exotic gloves you get from hyena retaliations

not HAVE to but its min-maxed anyway and 30% more dmg is good

[mental rapids]

Best place to farm??

[mental rapids]

Where to farm?

[shrewd leaf]

he told u alrdy in hyena retail

[upper yew]

if you have an active retaliation that is NOT from hyenas, abondon it, set your targeted loot to gloves and kill some hyenas (mission, free roam, bounty etc.) then do a hyena retaliation

[mental rapids]

I’m just returning so new to some things

[upper yew]

feel free to ask (I dont know much myself but help if can)

[wise mauve]

ehi returning player from 2020 the builds in this sheet are updated to current patch?

[lament reef]

yeah

in the sheet, the builds have a column next to their link with when they were last updated

[wise mauve]

uhu am i blind

[lament reef]

Y7S3 is year seven season three

[wise mauve]

ooooooh appreciate it

[lament reef]

the stuff that is not y8s1 still works, the game just hasn’t added anything since that season to change it

last big shakeup was adding Overdogs

[junior lagoon]

did you guys see the huntsman build with 4 strikers and 2 royal works for perfect uptime?

[upper yew]

does anyone know how much it takes for grace period to recharge ?

[exotic talon]

time to try out stinger hive carnage eclipse

stinger hive isnt ideal

[upper yew]

kinda wish we could use two versions of the same skill

[ocean wyvern]

It sounds exploitable and broken though

[willow tartan]

Guys, 4 tippingscales, 1 tinkerer, what should the 6th piece be?

[lone violet]

wish seekers were usable in higher gameplay

[halcyon crater]

equalizer chest is normally suggested

[lone violet]

seekers arent usable past escal 5 right?

[mental rapids]

is agitator good?

[fossil crag]

are they at all

[fossil crag]

YES! jsut dont by mistake troll your best friend with it on in a T10 mission LOL

[halcyon crater]

As a main weapon: not really. As a 2nd weapon just for the reduced threat: could be depending on content

[halcyon crater]

I wouldn't use seekers for anything over regular heroic content

[lone violet]

rip seekers

[smoky latch]

Legendary is OK too to get the campers out of the corners

[fossil crag]

good time good times.- agent nati, TOFU!! why i only get shot...

Me-... I have no idea😬

[mental rapids]

i want to make a build with this ho shouldi build this ?

[fossil crag]

witch lady of the night gun

[junior lagoon]

especially with that jack o'lantern animation

[barren mica]

I have a bunch of items in my cache with 1-3 maxed attributes, how do I figure out which are worth keeping and which aren't?

[lone violet]

same with shock mines i havent seen anyone use them

[junior lagoon]

Ask here people would say

[halcyon crater]

In Pinned messages there is a Lvl 40 starter guide with recommended items to keep

[barren mica]

I know how the library system works, but I appreciate it

[barren mica]

I'll ask for the best looking ones to me, probably

[barren mica]

Thanks, I'll check that out

[fossil crag]

Gotcha!! i didnt know witch way you ment it, so I fig Ill post that hahaha GG

[barren mica]

I for sure didn't know that until a while into getting started, so it was a good intuition!

[barren mica]

All of the info is blacked out for me, I can't see anything except black pages where it says what items to keep

[halcyon crater]

Don't know what to tell you, the doc is working fine

[barren mica]

Time to try a different browser lol

[hybrid leaf]

OD builds are quite useful in Countdown right?

Might farm DCD today

[fossil crag]

lotta people miss that little icon I know I did for a few months once it was added but I blame the whiskey

[barren mica]

Which is better? Glory Daze

[halcyon crater]

For weapons you always want Dttooc, except lmgs where you want CHC

[barren mica]

As the non-core attribute?

[halcyon crater]

yes

[barren mica]

Is everything else basically trash?

[halcyon crater]

Basically yeah

[barren mica]

Does this also apply to hotdogs build?

[halcyon crater]

it applies to everything

[barren mica]

Well that makes it easier lol, thanks

[halcyon crater]

All weapons want Dttooc since it's an additional dmg multiplier that is hard to come by via other sources

[barren mica]

Multiplicative with the rest or just a higher numeric value on the attribute?

[vernal wing]

(Functionally DTA and DTH calculate the same as DTOC assuming you only have 1 source of them)

[barren mica]

Right

Isn't DTOC still better then because the numeric value on the attribute is higher? Or is it not higher?

[vernal wing]

Correct

[barren mica]

Assuming I don't find a better lmg, is this Dare worth keeping?

[vernal wing]

The others aren’t as bad as you might think.
All enemies have health
Some enemies have Armor
Most enemies are out of cover.
They are all multipliers, but DTOC stats are usually higher and more consistent

[vernal wing]

Yes 100%

Obviously you can find better, and you can reroll talents/attributes on other weapons

[halcyon crater]

You can also easier flex in pcs with those attributes on gear with same or higher total stats as well

[barren mica]

What about this mechanical animal?

I feel like it could be decent but also it could be bad since either DTA or DTH are wasted depending on how damage is handled

[vernal wing]

You can switch DTA to DTOC

I don’t like the weapon much personally, but that would be best if you wanted to use it

[summer flax]

I finished my ongoing directives + blue screen build. It's really comfy

[barren mica]

That's true, but is the talent good enough to warrant use?

Increasing and overloading skill tier, does it see real use in skill builds?

[subtle bluff]

A sadist weapon will have you doing a lot more dmg.

[vernal wing]

Usually you’ll find a more consistent way to proc Overcharge
Measured Assembly/BTSU Data Gloves/Birdie’s Quick Fix/Acosta’s go bag

[barren mica]

Right, I already have BTSU

[vernal wing]

The weapons for skill builds are usually Capacitor or Scorpio

[barren mica]

I guess I will still save it, just because it's satisfying to look at

[vernal wing]

I did the same thing 😂 I keep all the max rolled named weapons

[barren mica]

With 27% weapon damage after destroying weak point, worth keeping or no?

[summer flax]

Alright I'll Check my stash.

[subtle bluff]

Library it.

[barren mica]

Unnamed KSG Shotgun, talent good enough to put DTOC on it?

[subtle bluff]

Library..

[solar sable]

library, not good

[vernal wing]

IMO only shotgun worth keeping is ACS 12 and the named versions
Stack Broker
Rock N Roll
Lefty

[grand girder]

you aint heard of m870 or somethin?

[lone glacier]

Man feels weird being back on this game

[sudden cloak]

There are definitely shotguns worth keeping aside from acs and it's variants

[vernal wing]

Name 1 you use where there isn’t a better replacement.

[sudden cloak]

HF, like glue

M870 with brazen

[vernal wing]

(Not talking about exotics)

[sudden cloak]

Im not

But I certainly wouldn't use an acs on hunters fury, I'd go, Like glue, the mop or an m870 with brazen

[barren mica]

Can backbone get red core attribute? Wondering if this is worth keeping?

[grand girder]

it will roll blue core attribute everytime

if you don't have a better roll keep that and use it for now but you'd definitely want to farm up for a chc + chd roll

[barren mica]

Right, but can't I just recalibrate for the missing roll?

[solar sable]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1006013297#gid=1006013297

[grand girder]

yeah but you're picking one or the other, so it'll either be chc +chd or chc + skill haste with a red core

[barren mica]

Oh right, I assumed the core attribute couldn't change

That makes sense then

[grand girder]

it can but not naturally, it needs the recalibration

[barren mica]

This bulldog worth keeping, or is it just outclassed by other pieces?

[pallid harness]

RPK-74 any good as a frenzy LMG? Had a good proto drop with the right stats and echo.

[barren mica]

I can still recalibrate it, if that changes anything

[vernal wing]

It’s definitely not bad. Reroll headshot to crit damage

Just a niche item and may not be the best backpack for every build

[barren mica]

Right

[exotic talon]

i cant make up my mind about firestarter chem
its obviously very strong but the range is too short to be of any use while solo

[solar sable]

1. TS when Prototyped leaves so many diminishing returns.
2. Why did you use Grupo? You don't need more CHD, you need 60% CHC.
3. Investor... yes it's fun, but idk if all blue fits or helps in any way at all.
4. Trauma? There are better talents out there.

[atomic anchor]

differences in opinion we see things differently i am having the most fun not struggling so i have no issues with my build

[solar sable]

What's your CHC?

[atomic anchor]

test the build out if you want i was just sharing not looking for som approval for real

[halcyon crater]

Sir this is #td2-build-advice, we give advice for your build

[solar sable]

I'm assuming hazpro, explo res and armor regen on Investor...?

And CHC rolls on TS?

[atomic anchor]

if we ask if its not for sharing builds then i wont

[halcyon crater]

As far as I'm concerned you can post a build here. Doesn't make it immune to feedback in any way, and also it's an obligation for people here to correct builds with suggestions that make them better

if you want to listen to them is up to you

[junior lagoon]

lefty used in anybuild?

[solar sable]

support and Strikers for Incursion

[exotic talon]

i dont know what youre cooking and im scared but intrigued

[atomic anchor]

widdz use a build like that today in the cli max mission

ig ppl are trying it out

[covert meadow]

Hi, what would be a great status build to use solo with this event?

[solar sable]

middz...

[uncut yarrow]

Hazpro backfire

[solar sable]

What a joke.

[uncut yarrow]

My first ever actual build was a hazpro striker backfire

[soft crane]

Funnily enough I also have it.

How's yours?

[uncut yarrow]

Incredibly unoptimized but it works

I havent touched it since I moved off of it

[soft crane]

I got 3 pieces of Strikers including chest, ceska kneepads, cavalier holster, and Ninjabike Backpack.

2nd set bonuses from Ceska and Cavalier gives 50% Hazpro alone.

[solar sable]

Hey Google, how do I fight the urge to off myself from reading such atrociousness?

[uncut yarrow]

My first one was i think coyotes with 4 piece with bag and chest and some random kneepads

[soft crane]

Tbh I never use it.

It's just there.

[uncut yarrow]

Id probably just make it mostly current strikers tho I wouldnt be able to get 100% hazpro with a normal build

[covert meadow]

When you have 100% haz pro, backfire shouldn't have that bleed effect right?

[soft crane]

Mine's has 100% Hazpro.

Sub attributes are Hazpro. And yeah it's a very old screenshot.

[solar sable]

Yes.

[soft crane]

Yeh, you'll be completely immune.

[uncut yarrow]

All status effects and their effects (fire hipfire, etc) are nullified

[smoky latch]

💀

[soft crane]

Good thing Mr. Chow isn't here. He could've passed out.

[solar sable]

I'm not Chow but I'm about to.

[covert meadow]

Hmn I need to check something because im running a haz pro back fire build with yaahl chest obliterate and I still get the effect

[solar sable]

I just can't handle the Backfire Hazpro slop.

[uncut yarrow]

All chow says is you can just nullify the effect by reloading over and over

[soft crane]

Tbf it's obviously my worst build in my inventory.

[uncut yarrow]

But I dont want to do such a thing so I won't. Nor will I ever use the build above heroic

[soft crane]

3 times yeah.

[uncut yarrow]

I havent touched it in a while since I finally made builds beyond it

[lone violet]

its from widzz and im scared

[covert meadow]

So under my stats with the exact striker build posted my stats only show 60 % chc is 54 and chd 108

Haz pro*

[solar sable]

Where is hazpro supposed to be in?

[covert meadow]

Attributes?

[solar sable]

In that sentence.

[covert meadow]

Should have been the striker haz pro build posted above, I just built it exactly and mine shows 60% hazard protection. Chc 54 % and chd 108?

[subtle bluff]

My opinion with BF is just slow ramp. I'd rather use something to go faster.

Content creators have done very well at hyping it up.

[solar sable]

Not Chow reading all the shit that happened 😂

[smoky latch]

He already reacted haha

[subtle bluff]

Murr?

I stopped reading a point.

I felt a disturbance in the force.

[covert meadow]

So my issue is?

[subtle bluff]

Not shoot enough.

[smoky latch]

Seasonal modifiers missing

[solar sable]

Why Strikers chest...

[uncut yarrow]

May as well just get rid of the hazpro and swap off the chest to equalizer

[covert meadow]

I copied the haz pro build that was posted above... I have a yaahl chest with obliterate

[grand girder]

depends on content tbh

[covert meadow]

Im just trying to find something to run this event

[uncut yarrow]

Wouldn't it be better to run a status build

Like Negotiators and Bluescreen or some shit

[covert meadow]

Isn't that what this is if your immune to it all?

[uncut yarrow]

(Idk shit about an event)

[subtle bluff]

Ditto.

[uncut yarrow]

Judt heard statuses

[subtle bluff]

I'd just assume OD would work.

[lone violet]

back fire not being usable same with seekers is crazy

[uncut yarrow]

Or ongoing sorry i flip them in my head

Le bleed eith many boolet

[covert meadow]

Alright

[onyx sage]

disturbing the peaceeeeeee

[uncut yarrow]

This game only like damage builds

You wanna be a tank? No.

Healer? We'll allow it this one time

[covert meadow]

Wasup dien bro...

[upper yew]

guys, does anyone know the difference between ensnare health and ensnare duration ? they sound the same

for chem launcher if context helps

[grand girder]

duration would be how long they are stuck in the foam

health would probably be a few extra bullets to break or something idk

if I had to guess that is

[upper yew]

so which one makes my sticky goo stay on them longer ?

[lone wadi]

duration

[grand girder]

fun fact of the day

[upper yew]

sorry I asked wrong

which one would be more effective

[grand girder]

is it for pvp or pve?

[upper yew]

pve

[grand girder]

duration would be more effective

[upper yew]

ok thanks

[soft crane]

@subtle bluff @smoky latch I need a precise explanation as to why Ninjabike Backpack is so bad in PvE so I can argue in Facebook.

[subtle bluff]

Oh god on FB..

[smoky latch]

You'll lack a damage talent that is irreplaceable by any brand piece combination

[subtle bluff]

Chest and BP talents are some of the most powerful things in the game. NBB take that away and can’t make it back up with just extra bonus.

[grand girder]

no point, they can't comprehend being wrong

[onyx sage]

i would just give up

[smoky latch]

DFA FB group?

[soft crane]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

I have this clip then I left them.

[smoky latch]

Oof tough task

[soft crane]

Ey I'm doing it for the love of the game.

To learn ❌
To argue ✅

[subtle bluff]

I think I have this clip on my YT shorts. Idk I should upload it if I still have it.

[minor shadow]

what's the best damage perk to use on lexington? theres a couple i use but is there one that is better than all others?

[grand girder]

pretty sure measured is still king

[livid sorrel]

killer for solo measured anywhere

[subtle bluff]

When used as a secondary and if it's work with your playstyle Back N Forth is really good.

[fossil crag]

not mad at it at all NOM NOM 4 immune 2 kool down and par-dox on my shotty

[uncut yarrow]

What am I looking at

[smoky latch]

HHF

I'm going for Echo and one piece Paradox, got it in my shotgun as well

[uncut yarrow]

Horrifying Hunters Fury

[exotic talon]

why breaking point

[gentle lichen]

Is synthesia worth going for after it got triple buffed or something

[smoky latch]

Headhunter's Furt

If you want your decoy back often or something, could work

[gentle lichen]

My 6 amalgam hhf is actually crazy i was playing reckless to hell and back yet i didn't healthgate let alone get my health damaged at all

And i was just at 11.4%

[exotic talon]

wait does breaking point still have +25% mmr damage

[fossil crag]

I dont see the need for echo when your reggy is 30. now being immune on the other hand ahahah

[fossil crag]

reggy fury Brad Pit's stamp of approval hahah great movie

[fossil crag]

Witch on eis that..?

[buoyant perch]

Echo doesn't work with headhunter.
https://youtu.be/OmIaBr1EF7U

[smoky latch]

Oh nice

[upper yew]

should I ditch carnage and scorpio in favor of tinkerer on my overdogs OD ?

[junior lagoon]

Are you not entertained

[upper yew]

I love playing OD just looking if I could push it further

[buoyant perch]

personally I prefer carnage + ODog than tinkerer

[upper yew]

thats what I do too

[cinder sail]

What can I replace if I want the Salvo holster for the faster fire rate?

[subtle bluff]

Coyote will do more for you than Salvo..

[cinder sail]

Got the faster fire rate buff from the new corrosive momentum buff from the event, and it performed pretty well with the lmg @subtle bluff

Don’t remember how much increased % the buff from the event gives btw

[fossil crag]

yes we understand that but you have no CHC or CHD becase your watch lvl so for the time being. I would NOT! change your build use a faster gun if thats what you want

liek you are short so much chc that no amout of ROF will make up the dmg lost

[cinder sail]

Level 1000 is all stats maxed right?

[fossil crag]

and you are 268 yes..?

[fossil crag]

And yes

hahah sorry ,i forgot to type that LOL

[cinder sail]

Got critical hit chance above 50%, hold on

[subtle bluff]

Even more reason to keep Coyote if you're getting more RoF from something else.

[hallow forge]

can someone tell me what’s wrong with my build? i got kicked from a T3 escalation

[fossil crag]

take off the elmo and put on a ar no mods then look at your chc and chd

[fossil crag]

the UA..? like IDK seem fine Id keep you

[cinder sail]

38.5% and 95.5%, just equipped a ACR @fossil crag

[fossil crag]

prob jsut pecker heads dont worry bout them

[hallow forge]

crazy thing is the guy told me to equip salvo then he kicked me. i could understand if it was T5+ but a T3 is insane

[fossil crag]

you see the problem we are solving with the coyo mask hahah

[smoky latch]

Dipshits are everywhere. One thing you should change now is to use non-proto kneepads with the right attribute tho

Scrap the proto kneepads with whatever the blue attribute is

[grave ice]

is my build good

[hallow forge]

both reds?

[cinder sail]

Coyote mask is still equipped, isn’t it the attribute and mods on the Elmo instead of the mask? The ACR has no crit attributes and mods at all @fossil crag

[fossil crag]

thats what it is he didnt see the blue on the knees. thats lame with .. lol you get it

[smoky latch]

Also the AR talent is bad, use a non-proto AR with Measured

[hallow forge]

bet

[smoky latch]

No

Scrap these two items, use non-proto items with CHC or CHD

[fossil crag]

no thats why I had you put on a AR no mods so you can see your raw chc and chd, VS with the elmo. witch has the best CHC and CHD on a AR in the game

[smoky latch]

Scrap it, use a better SMG (SMG-9, Vector, Dark Winter, Backfire, etc.)

[grave ice]

ok thanks

[smoky latch]

Use a Ceska chest with Obliterate/The Equalizer

[fossil crag]

Elmo give you 15 chc &chd

[smoky latch]

Gear that is prototyped isn't better if it has the wrong attributes

[grave ice]

which exotic do you suggest for a gear piece

[smoky latch]

Exotics aren't necessary in a build

You could use Overdogs tho if you wanted to

[smoky latch]

Take a look at this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mWk2Jgg8uJX3hkturWAET95gizwVHReoOOayO-ixe6U/edit?tab=t.0

[fossil crag]

Do you liek doing DMG..?

it will always have helth dmg you can get dmg outta cover though

[grave ice]

Thanks I’ll try that

[smoky latch]

Salvo/Striker's makes sense with Scorpio when solo. Gotta drop Coyote's then

Tried this earlier and works fine

[cinder sail]

Someone said out of cover is better then the critical hit damage on a Elmo?

[fossil crag]

everyone ever

[smoky latch]

DTOC > any other 3rd attribute unless it's a LMG; then you want CHC

[cinder sail]

I thought critical hit damage was better then out of cover, guess I have to reroll the next Elmo

[fossil crag]

who told you that

[cinder sail]

That crit hit damage is better? Nobody, that just made the most sense to be because I thought striker build is you want to have as much as critical hit damage and chance as possible

[fossil crag]

hes shd 250..... he need coyo

[cinder sail]

So in order to replace the coyotes mask, you want to have around 60% chance at least?

[smoky latch]

Fair point, true

[hallow forge]

weapon damage chc?

[smoky latch]

Depends on the other gear pieces and your overall values

[cinder sail]

Thanks guys

[subtle bluff]

At least 50 CHC. Crit is a huge part of your DPS

[junior lagoon]

what 4 piece of OD is used?

equalizer and overdogs like striker?

[fossil crag]

pve use the chest, pvp use teh back pack, gloves holster knees maks pick 3

you want a wicked pack and the over dawgs or connie gloves

[junior lagoon]

cant find a wicked pack memento is the best i can do

[fossil crag]

no its not LOL

[junior lagoon]

that should do for the evet, wont probably touch OD until next event

[subtle bluff]

Wicked or Vig.

[fossil crag]

Still no buy this, put wicked on it

[subtle bluff]

I mean memento works.

[fossil crag]

511 would work also... lOL

And WOW meme pack over Over cat gloves...? Never taught Id see the day!

[junior lagoon]

i have petrov defenbse with vigilance

ah i also have the gift

[fossil crag]

Gift is meh its 1 less sec on cool down

[junior lagoon]

ok found it. unit alloys with vigilance, also fully optimized

should i put wicked on UA backpack over vigilance?

[subtle bluff]

Is it double Crit already?

[fossil crag]

Mean it doesn’t really matter if you’re only using it for this event it’s wicked we’ll just do damage to status effect enemies and vigilance does damage when you’re not taking damage

[subtle bluff]

Pretty much.

Wicked is good OD in general. I

[fossil crag]

I mean if it’s a throwdown piece and it’s only for this event I don’t think Crit crit would matter

[subtle bluff]

to swtich around and test.

[solar sable]

Do you want 100% uptime? Wicked.
Do you want a bit more dmg and a penalty for taking dmg? Vigilance.

[fossil crag]

But you know he’s gonna fall in love with it and start using OD

Happened to my buddy lol.

I’m going directive is very…… magical

[cinder sail]

The orange damage numbers are your crits?

[junior lagoon]

yes

ok can do wicked because vigilance was calibrated.

[lilac harbor]

Yes

[solar sable]

Orange = Crit.
Blue = Armor.
Red = Headshot.
White = Health.
Yellow = Explosive DMG.

And I think gray is for Fall DMG.

[junior lagoon]

iron lung or blue screen

which one makes this event easier

[hallow forge]

is this better?

[smoky latch]

Yessir

[hallow forge]

frenzy on my lmg?

[smoky latch]

Nah not necessary with TS. One thing I wanna suggest is to use the Equalizer chest instead of the TS chest

You're not using the Salvo holster anyway and TS chest is not useful in lower tier Escalations

You might wanna use a damage talent that doesn't depend on status effects tho, for the LMG

[cinder sail]

Thanks, it’s not explained in the game that’s why

[fossil crag]

Light red -red crit headshot

[austere silo]

Hi, any revenous build recomendation?

[solar sable]

It can't be used as a main weapon.

[dusk edge]

i'm gonna assume the reason why OD's primary is an LMG because of the mag size?

[smoky latch]

Yup

The Carnage comes in handy for that

[dusk edge]

i wish OD with ARs too

but seeing as you need a kill to proc HP bullets, yeah. i can see why LMGs are best

just need a stable one

[lone violet]

is it worth to gamble on the prototype caches?

[fossil crag]

I like black Jack. I’m a bit of a shark on the table

Not much for the slots though lol
But will play if nothing else is open or the tables are cold

[junior lagoon]

no but we do anyway

[austere silo]

Fahh

[lone violet]

got trash

[surreal elk]

is gearshit better than a regular lmg with frenzy?

[buoyant perch]

no

[fossil crag]

Umm it’s a personal preff. But I’ll say this you can’t get my lex with measured off my build in pvp very easily lol

[smoky latch]

No

[fossil crag]

I mean on paper you are right but. Out on the battle ground is a diff story some people just hate frenzy or can get it to work for them so measured it is

[smoky latch]

The first half of the magazine as -5% WD on the Gear Shift

[hybrid leaf]

Bruh

[fossil crag]

But also I have a new found love for LMG with funze

[smoky latch]

You notice that clearly

[hybrid leaf]

I just had the most insane few hours of farming escalation...

[fossil crag]

I know. But you know I gotta state it hahaha

[hybrid leaf]

I've got 200 tokens again now lol

Had a great team we just kept rinsing T10 dcd

[fossil crag]

Nice. I keep delta at start up lol

[smoky latch]

DCD is short and easy, good farm

[fossil crag]

So I have 20 now hahahha

[hybrid leaf]

Dcd is fantastic

[fossil crag]

T10 DCD feels like T6

[hybrid leaf]

I've got full OD now. I couldn't find a CHC gloves tho...

[fossil crag]

It will be back somewhere some time. But you should be running the overcats or con gloves and a wicked pack (pve)

[hybrid leaf]

I'm looking at tinkerer for this OD build. With ceska backpack that gives big dmg boost to status effected targets

[hazy steeple]

OD+Tink is the best way to run it IMO.
The talent combo's you can get are

[hybrid leaf]

I just got a really nice proto smg with pressure point too

Didn't really imagine I'd run smgs with OD tho lol

[hazy steeple]

Definitely check out the build in the spreadsheet for it, to make sure you are using a good combination. Not all of them are.

[fossil crag]

I’d go Dmg if your talking essy mission other missions yes your build

[fossil crag]

When it 1st came out I did it was crazy op

And firewall with a stinger hive omgotdang

I think I ran it ridge and wicked on the smg brand

[hybrid leaf]

I've actually got pieces for both CHC and CHD. Except for the gloves I just have weapon efficiency lmao

[fossil crag]

And a Mpx

[hybrid leaf]

Ooh firewall is a good idea

[fossil crag]

Oo yeah🤠

I mean if you not running fire wall on a smg od build are you even living lol

But what content are we talking..? Cause if it’s essy aka escalation hell no lol. Give me gunner a mk with sadist or the carnage overcats or con gloves and wicked pack.

[hushed jackal]

so is it possible to be a healer without the btsu gloves?

or are they that importiant

[weak pike]

It's possible with birdie

[hushed jackal]

the wha?

[soft crane]

Birdies quick fix backpack. Basically revives your downed teammate super fast.

[hushed jackal]

ah i lack that as well q.q

[soft crane]

I vaguely remember it has some kind of buff for Hive but not as strong as BTSU Data gloves

[weak pike]

It also overcharges I believe

[kind cradle]

Can anyone help me make/get a good build, no matter what I try I still feel like I am barely doing any dmg I don’t really have a lot of stuff so that could be why but surely there’s something I can make to do more dmg?

[soft crane]

Level 40 Starter Guide

[upper yew]

what is the point of explosive bullets if hallow point does the same thing but gives a buff on top of that ?

[barren mica]

Which st elmos is better?

I assume crit damage

[steep spindle]

Is pulse considered a negative effect? ​​I'm asking in connection with the new event, which requires a way to apply a negative effect. If pulse isn't considered a negative effect, what method can you recommend?

[placid latch]

Crit damage should yield more damage if you have enough crit chance

[barren mica]

Ended up getting this, i assume there is no way to increase the attributes, except rerolling more?

[placid latch]

this is probably the best attribute

you can increase them through the bench

[barren mica]

Can I max them out?

[placid latch]

yeah

[barren mica]

Wait how

[steep spindle]

There is also recalibration

[barren mica]

Not for exotics, right?

[steep spindle]

yes

[gentle lichen]

ok so the new pistol is just trash

[placid latch]

Did you upgrade all the attribute from the crafting bench ?

[steep spindle]

u need click M in keyboard

[sturdy nest]

Trying to make a half assed decent DPS build for escalations, any tips on what i should be doing

[gentle lichen]

is the WD additive? it seems like it

[barren mica]

You mean my library?

[placid latch]

yeah

[barren mica]

Oh you mean I can optimize?

[placid latch]

yeah

[barren mica]

Right, I understand then lol

Yeah that makes sense, thanks

[wanton topaz]

how can i deal with the event mechanics easiest? im using st elmo striker build, but st elmo ammo is based on stacks so its a bit harder. Any weapon or something other than a whole new build? 😄

[full cosmos]

whats the ideal build for these shell enemies im struggling

[buoyant perch]

Iron lung seems straight forward to me

[buoyant perch]

Ongoing directive

[full cosmos]

with blue screen?

[sturdy nest]

Scorpio works really good

[buoyant perch]

Some people like BS for more cc with ongoing. I prefer carnage LMG with perfect sadist for more damage.

[sturdy nest]

Or Alternatively using something like the disrupt pulse cana also break the shields they have, to my knowledge any debuff works so long as it isnt pulse or the debuff from pestilence

[full cosmos]

thank you

[soft crane]

yes and Amplified Weapon Damage is multiplicative

not sure about Total Weapon Damage, lemme ask @subtle bluff

[young plaza]

Is Prototype Gear "named" gear when useing The Tinkerer mask ?

[soft crane]

No, it should be fixed by now. Prototype is a rarity like High-End.

[young plaza]

ok ty 🙂

[terse scroll]

chem launcher or scorpio is the best bet for simplest way to pop the shells but if you're using another exotic weapon that does complicate it a bit slightly

@hexed steppe

[gentle lichen]

i was talking about the exotic pistol sometimes they'd say it gives weapon damage but it's an amp

[soft crane]

The Whiplash? It says weapon damage iirc.

[halcyon crater]

Striker guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.bzeea15e0ihq

[summer totem]

Mr chow wya, can you drop your backfire build

[soft crane]

See mine instead.

[summer totem]

Send it

Rn im running strikers with hazard protection memento and equalizer (probably gonna farm for a ceska chest piece with obliterate)

[soft crane]

Nah nvm, Mr. Chow definitely has better Backfire build than mine.

[summer totem]

No harm in seeing

[soft crane]

Mr. Chow will.

He'll harm my feeling.

[summer totem]

Just send it ToT

You acting like i judge:<

I mean i probably will but still

[soft crane]

Well alright, enough horsing around. Here's what I use. 100% Hazpro.

Ceska holster, and Cavalier kneepads.

[summer totem]

Yeah you're definitely getting flamed

[soft crane]

You get 50% Hazpro from Ceska and Cavalier 2nd set bonuses alone. Another 40% from sub attributes, and last 10% from SHD Watch.

[soft crane]

wdf what did I tell you.

[summer totem]

ToT first thing he's gonna say is tf why you have nbb on

@soft crane how bout another build with the 45% hazpro from the modifiers

[soft crane]

Dont have it. That Striker hazpro build has to be my worst.

Do +15% Skill Efficiency translates to

+15% Skill Haste
+15% Status Effect
+15% Skill Damage
+15% Status Effect Duration?

[onyx prism]

U should also Mod your pistol, mod it right and you can do serious damage at close range to enemies with no armor.. Tap, Tap!

[onyx prism]

Is there an Echo in here!!!👍

[exotic talon]

yes, same as weapon handling for the relevant stats

well not sure about status effect duration but i know it affects all skill stats

[subtle bluff]

Who awakes me?

[soft crane]

Nobody.

[subtle bluff]

[devout iris]

so do i need to bring a PFE build for this weeks climax mission?

since im gonan do this alone

[summer totem]

@subtle bluff give backfire build

[subtle bluff]

I don't really have one.. I only use them for incursion or kind of the same places you can put on a striker chest.

Strikers with Memento?

[uncut yarrow]

Me

[hexed steppe]

Skill damage, status effects, skill haste, Skill duration, skill health, skill repair

[soft crane]

Thats a lot.

I guess using full yellow investor for my eclipse protocol build was the right choice

[uncut yarrow]

Yes

[exotic talon]

finally

[uncut yarrow]

If i wasn't on console I might actually try a sniper build

Shroud just looks too good as it is to not want to make a build around it but the game is already tedious, I cant imagine trying to hit headshots on these mfs on a controller in this game

Had it felt more like an FPS, like Destiny back in the day? Sure screw it I'll go for headshots but this game? I dont think so lol

[subtle bluff]

Only for a support EP otherwise Vile/Overdogs for burn.

[soft crane]

What? Overdogs affect status effect damage?

[subtle bluff]

It's more or less a source amp

[soft crane]

Source amp?

[subtle bluff]

Like GC

[smoky latch]

?

[summer totem]

Nothing couldn't send photo there and sent it here and told them to check it out here ToT

[atomic anchor]

health damage is preferred choice instead of damage to armor or out of cover? just wondering

[smoky latch]

Yes

DTOC/CHC on weapons is unrelated to DtH on the mask

[atomic anchor]

okay that is new to me i was told differently but its been a while since so i will try this thanks

so it was the weapon that only applies not the mask

[smoky latch]

You have a lot of red bars and proxies in Escalations, and armor is only a part of some purples and elites. The 21% DtH from Hollow Man is really good

[atomic anchor]

nice thank you

[smoky latch]

Once the armor is gone they also have health

[atomic anchor]

true

[misty crane]

Sorry if it's a weird question but is the ongoing directive build with a bluescreen decent for solo and group?

[smoky latch]

Yes

Group benefits greatly from the Hollow Point ammo

[wise mauve]

Ehi where do people farm gear mod CHC and CHD nowdays?

[atomic anchor]

is military MK46 preferred choice over over sleipnir that has perfect frenzy?

[smoky latch]

101%

[atomic anchor]

bc of mag size?

[smoky latch]

Yes and RoF

[atomic anchor]

RoF makes that much of a difference compared to the talent?

[smoky latch]

1. You can build Striker's stacks with it
2. You can empty the ammo box fast

[atomic anchor]

i mean ig bc its going off less bullets so ig thats not really much

[smoky latch]

That too

[atomic anchor]

okay thanks again

[smoky latch]

The guide is on point for good reasons, you can trust it 😄

[atomic anchor]

i wish i question everything lol but i will take your word on it 🫡

[smoky latch]

I mean if you have questions to understand sth better just shoot

[misty crane]

What do you want to roll as normal cores for the ongoing directive set, typically?

Something like status effects maybe?

[smoky latch]

Core always red aka WD

Attribute wise CHC and CHD

[atomic anchor]

these builds been tested in real game play not just on paper or shooting range?

[smoky latch]

Distribution depends on your overall values

[smoky latch]

Tested and working

Meta actually

[atomic anchor]

okay thanks that is great to know

[smoky latch]

Every build you find in the spreadsheet and it's various guides is

[atomic anchor]

awesome took me awhile to find it

[misty crane]

Cool, I have a decent build that I just farmed from CD and I'm gonna grind it a bit to have it more optimized. Thanks 👍

[smoky latch]

Alright, GL and enjoy

[smoky latch]

Did you read this yet?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WN7sbuP2TEcVaY9fg2PSRbPLS7w4cD80edBQ9JwNoCo/edit?usp=drivesdk

[uncut yarrow]

Login, buy new bundle in store, logoff, profit

[atomic anchor]

was there a link for that i mustve miss it reading it now

[smoky latch]

It's part of the spreadsheet in the builds section, scroll down a bit to find it

Or simply bookmark it now

[blissful pecan]

hi all, i want some good advice on my healer build. is this build good? or is there a better build? i wanna do t5+ and keep everyone alive but my hive keeps running out and slowly regaining

[atomic anchor]

okay thank you i will

[smoky latch]

Are you using SH mods?

[blissful pecan]

yes

[smoky latch]

You could use Hana-U or Brazos with yellow core gloves for additional SH

What mods are in your hive?

[blissful pecan]

in my current glove is 28.2% repair skills and 17.7 skill haste

[smoky latch]

But it has skill duration as intrinsic brand bonus

[atomic anchor]

is there a preference what mods to use on the weapons? im not finding that

[smoky latch]

CHC or CHD, large magazine

[atomic anchor]

okay thanks again!

[smoky latch]

This setup lets you quickly hot swap to either BTSU gloves or Birdie's

[frosty rivet]

Starting to think iam in the minority playing without colorblind mode

[blissful pecan]

ooooh, looks interesting

[smoky latch]

You don't need the technician spec in that build because you're already at six yellow cores. Hence survivalist

[blissful pecan]

i will definitly try it right now

[smoky latch]

As mentioned above for a little more skill haste you could use Hana-U gloves or improvised gloves

[blissful pecan]

since today escal is hana-u i will grind for that

[smoky latch]

Just from experience, if your team eats up more than one hive per encounter something is not going well

[blissful pecan]

so am not the wrong right here!!!! thats what am trying to say to the team mates that i play with they say i suck

[smoky latch]

If you see your hive is about to run out of charges just hotswap to BTSU gloves and break your hive to trigger overcharge, that'll give back your charges really quick. You can do that every 90s

[smoky latch]

Their positioning probably sucks. That's not your fault

[blissful pecan]

didnt know that, i will try this

[blissful pecan]

my hive stacks runs out after like 1 min into a counter at t5 or t6 along with my chem launcher too

[smoky latch]

And while your hive recharges use your overcharged chem launcher on everyone and it should be good

[blissful pecan]

bro ur my hero with those ideas love it

[smoky latch]

Well I can only guess here but you might be a bit nervous on the trigger or your team's positioning sucks/they peek in the wrong moments etc

[junior lagoon]

got a lefty yesterday maybe destiny wants me to become a healer

[vernal wing]

Really fun imo better than healers in several other mmos.

[atomic anchor]

Not sure if its a build question related but is it true when you throw decoy on a team mate the decoy skill instantly overrides enemy targeting to force enemies to shoot at the decoy rather than the person its thrown at?

[vernal wing]

I mean you don’t even have to throw it on them. That’s just part of the skill

[atomic anchor]

i mean.. i see ppl doing it so when i looked it up thats what it says and i just wanted to know if thats confirmed or not ..

[smoky latch]

Keep decoys away from teammates

[vernal wing]

Yeah the decoy has a “threat”stat so as long it’s higher than all the players and as long as it’s within range of enemies they will target it.

[junior lagoon]

In pvp auto targeting forces them to switch to decoy giving you a second not sure in pve works that way

[atomic anchor]

so its false info? what do i do if it were to get thrown on me in escalation or something like that

[junior lagoon]

Throw it somewhere visible anc close to enemy

Especially rushers etc will run to decoy

[junior lagoon]

People usually dont throw decoys to other teammates

Hives yes decoys no

[atomic anchor]

i just saw someone do it in escalation so it was weird

[junior lagoon]

I sometimes drop decoy where i am and then move

[atomic anchor]

Question didnt get answer so im assuming yall do not know since there was not an direct answer, but thank yall anyway for trying. I appreciate anyway.

[junior lagoon]

I thought we answered

Throwing next to your teammate is not a good idea. Enemy may throw a grenade etc

[dawn perch]

Are you guys stashing your whiplash or using it for the funny talent? The talent has some really interesting thing you can do with it.

[smoky latch]

Can you even use it? I heard it causes nothing but issues

Invisible/disappearing items and whatnot

[vernal wing]

The answer is enemies will target the decoy. If you are standing near the decoy you will get hit in cross fire. 🤦🏻‍♀️

These are not mutually exclusive

[dawn perch]

bugs? HUH? What it is suppose to do make reloads instantly for really long reload lmgs. synergy with that one hostler

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[flint arch]

if someone throws a decoy on you, they messed up
stay away from decoys

[dawn perch]

At the very least it has a fairly good purpose unlike the agiator.

[smoky latch]

Agitator is a decent AR but it's annoying in certain content due to aggro imbalance

[smoky latch]

No synergy with Centurion's

[misty crane]

Just did 2 B2B T5 and I did a lot of CC with this build, basically allowed my group to go crazy. Glad I didn't get kicked for my low shd level 😆

[vernal wing]

How’s the synergy with DCGH? 😂

[smoky latch]

💀

[dawn perch]

it having massive swap speed and that you can roll swap speed already makes it really good for centurion.

[smoky latch]

Have you actually used it in combination or are you just going by theory?

[junior lagoon]

2 exotics?

[dawn perch]

i have seen it been used by people (their POV). Just waiting on my static to actually get to that mission though.

[smoky latch]

Centurion's is a holster

[junior lagoon]

Ah i thought the new AR

[smoky latch]

Lol

Cadueus you mean? Comes out next season

Centurion's Scabbard is an exotic holster

[dawn perch]

they have used it with centurion scabbard in demostration.

[smoky latch]

It's fkn annoying to use, the holster I mean. You constantly have to keep in mind which buff is on which weapon, when swapping to the pistol you transfer the buffs to one weapon. What good does so much RoF do on a pistol with hard recoil?

There is no real synergy

[dawn perch]

you don't use the pistol itself. It more to switch to then swtich to your primary. (most likely your MG)

[smoky latch]

Then you don't need the pistol lol

The pistol's talent is only active on the pistol. Many airheads get it wrong and say the pistol's buff works on the other two guns

[dawn perch]

oh that buff. That thing does not matter

[exotic talon]

whiplash works best with dodge city

[smoky latch]

You're confusing me, got no time for that

[vernal wing]

It’s definitely theory given he recommend rolling swap speed 🫠

[viral remnant]

Really? I thought the swap exotic would work well with it

[obtuse shoal]

People really care that much to kick you?? Lmao

[viral remnant]

I'm curious how you would make then, like gear wise

[obtuse shoal]

About to make a pistol build …. I have the perfect pieces for it

[broken flax]

You have the name for it

[vernal glen]

Are there any bleed or status build i can try 👀

[obtuse shoal]

Getting bored of the game now so about to start doing anything

[smoky latch]

Eclipse Protocol

[hazy steeple]

@vernal glen Check out the Ongoing Directive section of the spreadsheet, it's amazing for this event.

[smoky latch]

OD uses bleed to trigger an additional damage buff

[hazy steeple]

of special note: the Tinkerer version.

[vernal glen]

[hazy steeple]

I'm sorry 'deck, I had to stop using a Mortar. My true love is back in the spotlight.

[broken flax]

I'm imagining Vanna White highlighting each build option right now and it's killing me.

[hazy steeple]

Hanna White? Wow that's a deep cut.

[broken flax]

Autocorrect made Vanna, Hanna, how rude.

[hazy steeple]

I thought so, but I googled it any way and "hanna white" was in a game called "Deep Cuts", so that made it way better.

[broken flax]

That's one of the best typos ever.

[exotic talon]

3pc IA, punch drunk, fox's prayer, dodge city holster
this also works with every other damage pistol

[grand nimbus]

General build question
Is it bad to have too many on-kill effects?

[broken flax]

Are you the one getting the kills? No. Are they getting swiped out from under you consistently? Yes.

[grand nimbus]

I'm rocking a perfect headhunter build with White Death
So yeah, i'm popping heads lol

[paper abyss]

hey agents... in my head Iron lungs should be melting with corrosive event, but in reality it is not the case. Any thoughts? For context I was using it during my last scalation run

[broken flax]

What level are you running

[paper abyss]

T5

[broken flax]

Status effect immune enemies during the status effect event.

I'm fairly certain you'll have a much better time running a T4

[smoky latch]

Kinda useless to run that event in Escalations

[paper abyss]

so T5 and above is closed during the event?

[smoky latch]

No it's just pointless

[paper abyss]

yeah i see

[broken flax]

So, idk how long this will be a thing, but apparently if you use a prototype weapon as the ingredient to crafting an exotic, it comes out at max expertise. This works for Regulus and Liberty as far as I am aware.

[smoky latch]

What?

[broken flax]

When you craft those exotics, and it wants you to use a weapon as the basis, if you use a prototype, it'll come out at expertise level 30.

[sullen night]

I can see that working for Regulus and Liberty, but Nemesis doesn't require a high end weapon to craft 🤔

[broken flax]

I misremembered then, my bad

[smoky latch]

Oh I see now

[lament reef]

oh nice

[sullen night]

Or maybe it does if you build it again after the first time you make it via the project, then it could work I assume

But generally you need to dismantle the Adrestia named rifle to get a craftable part for the Nemesis, not use the actual gun in the crafting

[broken flax]

Yeah, I forgot you dismantled the gun.

[hazy steeple]

You likely can't proto the Adrestia, since you can't optimise it. I was very sad to learn that.

(you can test it though, by running Tidal without a Nemesis on your char/in your stash, then open the box.)

[broken flax]

That's a shame, I actually really liked using the Adrestia.

[sullen night]

Still - sounds pretty noice getting a Regulus with 30 Expertise

[broken flax]

Without the prereq materials to get it to 30.

[hazy steeple]

yeah dw about it, thought better.

[sullen night]

:-? Did they change Regulus to drop as a full pistol now?

[smoky latch]

Only during certain events

[hazy steeple]

Specifically only from certain Event Caches.

othewise it's still IH only.

[smoky latch]

Yup

[junior lagoon]

you need high end items to craft exotics?

[smoky latch]

For a few

[broken flax]

For two in particular, yes, for one you need to dismantle a gun though.

[dim nest]

Good afternoon agents. I tried the mastery last night just to mess around, and I was wondering what builds are recommended for this mission so that I can assist my clan in completing it successfully. Any suggestions?

[ivory pawn]

What trait do I put on my police m4

[smoky latch]

Any decent DPS build basically, foam as support is nice too

[smoky latch]

Killer solo, Measured for solo/group play is ideal. Back and Forth is also decent

[fair ridge]

heya, what gloves would you guys suggest for FI if I want to run Birdie instead of BTSU?

[vernal wing]

I mean you can always run FI gloves. But any Alps Summit piece is good

[stone python]

Do carnage & Gr9 work with tinkerer?

[broken flax]

Considering the fact Carnage is a Named Weapon, no.

[broken flax]

I personally recommend Motherly Love if you're going to run Alps gloves

[vernal wing]

He’s got Birdie

[onyx sage]

motherly love's skill health doesn't really do anything tho

[broken flax]

Oh, is it like the Forge holster?

[onyx sage]

yeah it's basically a better forge

[fair ridge]

ok I'll rephrase then. doesn't have to be gloves I guess, the standard FI is btsu, the setup, 4p fi. if I want to swap btsu to birdie is there any other piece I should run, any specific named?

[onyx sage]

but it doesn't do anything on a heal/rez build except make skills tankier

[lone violet]

🤔

[broken flax]

True, I have people who sit under my hive 24/7 so it gets blown up by grenadiers so I find it useful

But if it only affects T0 hp like Forge, blergh

[onyx sage]

nah it's better than forge because it is a separate multiplier than shield health

and, you know, skill health applies to all skills, not just shield

but you're right that shield health from forge is the most impactful for t0 shield

[broken flax]

Ahh

[twin parcel]

Is Core Strength good for Legendary Diff and and Heroic CD at all?

[hazy geode]

U know lowkey i dont mess with the setup backpack for a healer build.

Cuz like I actually wanna maybe shoot every once and a while and shotguns lowkey suck at range

other than that my healing build is fine

[normal shadow]

With the Setup you can use Scorpio to support the team, or if you actually want to shoot there's Sheriff.

[smoky latch]

No

[fair ridge]

I mean the point is to run Scorpio, not to kill stuff with shotties

[heady terrace]

good haul

[barren mica]

What talent should I put on this SIG MPX?

[junior lagoon]

i would put killer

for solo play

[magic pilot]

+1 stash item

[cinder karma]

+1 inventory space
-1 stash space

decon = saved space across the board

[exotic talon]

is there a talent that increases damage to disoriented enemies? might go hard on hunter's fury smg

[onyx sage]

next season

[obtuse shoal]

Time to make my Virt build idc I love the headset

Gearset*

[lone violet]

is this usable? its a burn set up ig

[main bobcat]

So I just hit 40 for the first time, what activity should I do?
I only have Normal difficulty..

I've managed to get a 4pc Striker from Summit, but I'm kinda lost on what the farming loop is for Normal, Hard, Challenging, Heroic...

[smoky latch]

This is the build advice channel but I can link you this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[normal shadow]

Well, here's this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

[smoky latch]

It's everything and nothing at the same time

Tbh it's more like garbo

[lone violet]

so CS cant be used in pve cause its cheeks then?

[smoky latch]

Yes, it's cheeks in higher tier PvE content

I don't have a single piece of that set lol

[onyx sage]

i love core strength backpack

[lone violet]

Concept was cool too bad now it’s (is this build good for escal 10 or not)

[onyx sage]

i mean it's not good in pve in general unless you make the bar really low

[obtuse shoal]

Hold on.!!!!!

Your telling me I’m perfectly fine with 50-54 chc smh I can have a lot more chd

[smoky latch]

Nice meme item

[onyx sage]

it can be prototyped so it's just a better ninjabike

brb let me grind 45 exo comps

[smoky latch]

Too bad you wouldn't gain any benefit if you put it in your improvised NBB secret super build

Wait, that'd be perfect

[exotic talon]

dont be unfair to cs bp, it does its best

[onyx sage]

it's actually a buff

they gave me what i always wanted

[spiral elm]

how maxed can gear be from escalations?

[smoky latch]

Can be max rolled

[junior lagoon]

i did not get any since beginning but i do mostly t5

[lone violet]

But your gambling with the attributes

[fossil crag]

hummm LOL

[weary condor]

Does anyone know of a good general build that can heal somewhat. I play with my dad and he has like 200ms of input delay so he sits back and likes support, but it gets boring not killing stuff

[smoky latch]

Refactor I'd suggest. Turret and drone that repair your and your team's armor

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

You shoot stuff to buff your skills that distract and kill NPCs while healing. Sounds like a good fit for your situation

[hallow forge]

what builds use foxs prayers?i just got it

[exotic talon]

wait does base total armor include blue cores and expertise

[viral hull]

Whats the meta healer build for escalations?

[timid token]

Is there a pistols build hub in spread sheet good sir

[exotic talon]

does galvanize give bonus armor to the user

[smoky latch]

Search for pistol builds in this channel, would make sense, no? 😬

[timid token]

Idk good sir

[exotic talon]

3pc IA with vigilance and either headhunter or glass cannon, punch drunk, fox's prayer, dodge city holster

[timid token]

K

[timid token]

Is it all crit chance and crit damage

[exotic talon]

headshot damage

[timid token]

K

[subtle bluff]

We only have one for HF.

[timid token]

Hf

[subtle bluff]

Hf

Hunter Fury.

HH (Headhunter)

[timid token]

I’ll search that up in spread sheet

[exotic talon]

good lord whiplash is strong

[silent storm]

So I'm wondering about this. Does Amalgam work like regular Status and does it matter in Tier 10? Has anyone tried it before?

[exotic talon]

dunno about the former but for the latter, high tier escalation has a status immunity modifier that is given to most of the enemies

[silent storm]

I have seen Status from Amalgam proc in tier 10 though as I run it constantly

This is my new current build

Ignore Lady Death and Burster as they are just levelup slots

That is why I am asking if Creeping Death would trump an immunity

[subtle bluff]

First understand how the modifiers works....

[subtle bluff]

How would it "trump" hazpro...

[silent storm]

I know how the mods work but I have Statused mobs in tier 10 with Amalgam

[subtle bluff]

Again read and understand the modifiers for hazpro for the ads.

Go read it.

[silent storm]

Well that is why I am asking if anyone tried Creeping Death

[subtle bluff]

Making me repeat myself.

I swear if I have to look it up on mobile for you...

[spiral elm]

anyone know a good build site? i had found on but forgot it

[subtle bluff]

It's bottom of the pinned messages

[junior lagoon]

i am having hard time to find weaposn that quikcly applies status effects. bluescreen, iron lung, sadist all too slow

any suggestions?

[buoyant perch]

Ongoing directive

[junior lagoon]

bro ongoing directive does not apply status effect by itseld

[buoyant perch]

I have near 100% uptime

[junior lagoon]

how ?

it says shooting status effected enemty

[buoyant perch]

It just works

[silent storm]

Pulse them then shoot them get ammo

[junior lagoon]

pulsing is not a status effect

[silent storm]

Banshee is

[buoyant perch]

Hollowpoint ammo gives bleed 🩸

[junior lagoon]

to get the hollow point you need to apply status effect

[buoyant perch]

And the bleed is a status effect...

[junior lagoon]

?

[silent storm]

Banshee pulse applies Disorient

[junior lagoon]

yes banshee pulse can be but still not good imho

[silent storm]

Y?

[buoyant perch]

You just need to manually get status effect exactly once at the beginning with nades or skills or whatever. The HP ammo does the rest

[junior lagoon]

i need a wepaon that applies status effects quickly

not a skill

[smoky latch]

Scorpio

[silent storm]

Scorp is it

but y tho?

[junior lagoon]

scorpio maybe yeah

[buoyant perch]

nades work too

[smoky latch]

Use Striker's with Salvo and Scorpio, works fine

OD triggers it faster tho

[junior lagoon]

yeah but i dont think it is reliable OD is

[buoyant perch]

Yeah you are wrong

[silent storm]

Then why not just Banshee?

[junior lagoon]

you have been talking wrong stuff for the last half hour

[subtle bluff]

Hollow Point ammo is a bleed ammo....

[buoyant perch]

Cos you are

[junior lagoon]

yes but you need status effect to get hallow point

[silent storm]

Then wear Trauma

[subtle bluff]

Yes once you do that it's 100% up.

[buoyant perch]

Only once at the beginning

[junior lagoon]

yeah but you need something else to do it

[subtle bluff]

To nerf youself.

[subtle bluff]

Riot Foam, Banshee Pulse.... there are so many... You can watch the clip. I only used on CC to start it off.

[junior lagoon]

next combat you gotta do it agains

[subtle bluff]

No.... WATCH THE CLIP...

[silent storm]

If he wants first shot to apply a Status Effect Trauma is the besat and easiest way

[junior lagoon]

10 seconds after your last kill mark goes away

[subtle bluff]

I used to the start the fight....

[subtle bluff]

Nerf yourself 50% dmg. Smart way.

[silent storm]

I'm not saying it's smart but he is saying all others are worthless so ...

[subtle bluff]

It's the dumbest way to do it.

No, he doesn't understand how OD works.

[silent storm]

Why you would not use Banshee to start a fight with OD anyway I don't even know

[buoyant perch]

Hollowpoint ammo doesn't go away

[smoky latch]

You can even teleport into a safe zone and back out and the HP ammo remains

[silent storm]

And if you are in a group you are giving other HP ammo as well so you should constantly be shooting SE enemies

[subtle bluff]

I probably could do the same GE clip with this GE.

You're now just missing the context of the issue.

[silent storm]

What context?

[subtle bluff]

Exactly. You're just saying stuff.

[silent storm]

Stuff

I mean I don't personally like to play OD, but I do love an OD in my squad

And without skills or Scorpio, Trauma is the only other way I can think of to start a status chain

Amalgam is nice as well but not guarenteed

[turbid drum]

Hello. I'm new to the game. I want to get elmo build. Where do i start?

[silent storm]

Do you have Elmo?

[turbid drum]

No i don't have that. I downloaded it just couple of days ago. Most of the guides are pretty complex for me right now. Is there i simple guide for that?

[silent storm]

Are you 40 yet?

[turbid drum]

yes

[silent storm]

Then True Sons Retaliation until you get the BPO

Or get lucky and it just drops for you in a cache or something

[turbid drum]

I don't even know that lol. Is there a nice guide?

[silent storm]

I don't even know if there is a Retaliation guide

[turbid drum]

I mean what is that?

[silent storm]

It's pretty straight forward, go to map and click over to Retaliations

Look for True Sons and do that. It's basically just a timed run on capturing check points

What build are you wearing right now?

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0